Brett Favre, A Great Night In College Hoops, And Guys On Chicks

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Speaker 15 On today's part of my take, we have Brett Favre on the show. Hall of Famer, Brett Favre on the show.
I can't believe it.

Speaker 15 I'm sure people who are listening to this right now can't believe it, but it finally happened. We have Brett Favre on the show.

Speaker 15 We have college basketball wild night. We have have J.J.
Watt going to the Cardinals. What were you going to say, Hank? You said two Hall of Fames

Speaker 15 the other day. What was the second one?

Speaker 16 I'm sure he's in the Mississippi State Hall of Fame. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 15 And personal Hall of Fame of quarterbacks I dislike, who also seem like they kind of could be cool guys if they didn't play for the Packers.

Speaker 15 So that was

Speaker 16 Jeans Commercial Hall of Fame. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Copperfit Hall of Fame.

Speaker 15 We have college basketball. We have J.J.
Watt. We have guys on chicks.

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Speaker 15 today is wednesday march 3rd

Speaker 15 and illinois is officially the number one team in the country according to my power rankings what a night in college basketball If they beat the best team in the country, Michigan, then they deserve to be number one.

Speaker 16 I agree. I'd have Michigan at number two.

Speaker 16 The Baylor game, we can get to that in a little bit, but if you go to overtime, I feel like you should drop in the rankings. That should be reflected on the back end.

Speaker 16 So, yeah, I like Illinois number one, Michigan, number two, and then the rest kind of just shakes out from there.

Speaker 15 It's a two-team tournament this year. A lot of people were coming at me because of my Michigan number one ranking.
I want everyone to understand that the rankings are not predictive, they're reactive.

Speaker 15 So, I reacted to the last week. Illinois was number two in my rankings.
They absolutely kick the shit out of Michigan, which

Speaker 28 no I.O.

Speaker 15 They go in there. Ewing theory, I don't even know if you want to do it.
I think it might actually just be the Doug Gottlieb theory. He tweeted right before tip-off.
He was like, no I.O. tonight.

Speaker 15 Michigan has too many dudes. Take Michigan big.
And then it was like the complete opposite happened. But either way.

Speaker 15 So I want to say this for real, though, because I obviously am partly, partly trolling with my rankings, even though I do believe them. Gonzaga is a really, really good team.

Speaker 15 Gonzaga played and beat a lot of really good teams before conference schedule. I do think, though, a night like tonight is a perfect example.

Speaker 15 When you play in a big boy conference, it's hard to get up every single night. It's hard to get up three times a week or twice a week.
And there will be weird nights like tonight.

Speaker 15 Like Illinois played absolutely incredible. Michigan is not as bad as they looked.

Speaker 15 And those things happen when you play in the Big 12 or the ACC or the Big 10 or the SEC, and you have to play night in and night out against really good competition.

Speaker 15 So it was a great night of college basketball.

Speaker 16 It was awesome.

Speaker 16 And what you're getting at with that game is like, it did actually look like Illinois wanted it more tonight, which is the most, it's the most hilarious analysis that you can give of a game because all of my worst coaches on my worst teams, that's how they would analyze losses when I was like playing youth sports.

Speaker 16 It's like, oh, the other team wanted it more. That's why you guys lost.
They got bodied tonight. They got bodied.
Like I just looked up the rebounding totals.

Speaker 16 I think it was like 45 to 26 or something like that. Michigan didn't look like they were trying to get physical tonight.

Speaker 15 So, um, well, Kofi Coburn is, is

Speaker 15 something has clicked with him in the last month, and he is playing like he has figured out that he is just a monster and he can do whatever he wants.

Speaker 15 And his, his interior defense has taken a different level. And I just, Illinois, I mean, they were my number two ranked team going into tonight.

Speaker 15 So I thought they were very good, but they were very, very impressive. And again, I think Gonzaga is, Gonzaga probably will win the tournament.
They probably are going to win the tournament, whatever.

Speaker 15 I'm just telling you that I reward teams that have to play tough competition every single week and every single night.

Speaker 15 And Michigan looked like a team that was coming off three emotional games in a row and a gauntlet.

Speaker 15 And then they get to Illinois and they came out flat and they looked, and you get exposed like that when you play against a good team.

Speaker 16 We won't say Hunter Dickinson's name on this podcast until he wins another game.

Speaker 16 How about that? How about that? You can't read the press clippings. Illinois, they,

Speaker 16 yeah, I mean, they played really well today. They're such a fun team to watch.
I didn't realize how fun Illinois was to watch until

Speaker 16 like the last week. They're a very, very fun team.
I like,

Speaker 16 I think Georgia Tech is a team, you know, they beat Duke tonight, but they

Speaker 16 have some really shitty losses. I couldn't believe I was looking at their schedule because like you haven't heard Georgia Tech talked about as being a good team because they're not really that great.

Speaker 16 But they've beaten a lot of good teams and they've lost to a lot of really shitty teams, so they're like they're super confusing.

Speaker 15 Well, the ACC is like that overall. The ACC has had a down year overall.

Speaker 15 The ACC basically has Florida State and Virginia, and then it has a lot of, you know, the UNC up and down, Duke up and down, Georgia Tech up and down.

Speaker 15 Pittsburgh has looked good at times, but then really bad NC State. So that's kind of been the MO for the entire ACC.
Am I missing anyone, Jake?

Speaker 15 I think that's pretty like that's kind of Syracuse and Louisville are

Speaker 15 a perfect example of what what I'm saying too, again, of the up and down teams in the ACC.

Speaker 15 The ACC has had like, if you look at the entire ACC the entire season, you you could pick a point in the calendar and be like, ooh, they look like a tournament team. And then the next week they don't.

Speaker 15 And that's, that's pretty much the entire ACC. Stephen's used conference to lose.
Yes.

Speaker 15 So the Baylor win was huge.

Speaker 15 Unbelievable, especially when it looked like they were going to lose that game in regulation and their first conference title in 71 years which is insane but also makes sense because you play in a conference with kansas um and duke is officially hank do you want to do you want to have a post-mortem on or post post humanist post mostly on post mostly talk about duke they're out uh yeah i mean my only my only takeaway that

Speaker 10 is basically that you know it's better to do this now than in the middle of march when this probably would have stung a little bit more i don't know who the ref was people were tweeting me like i said it was a ref show because some of those calls on Matthew Hurt were a little bit questionable.

Speaker 10 Apparently, that ref likes to make it all about himself.

Speaker 15 But either way,

Speaker 15 every college ref, yeah, Duke had their chances down the stretch, and they just didn't look like a team that was going to do any damage in the tournament anyway.

Speaker 10 So, why even, why even bother?

Speaker 15 Why just cut, just cut the cord?

Speaker 16 I actually agree with that.

Speaker 16 I think that not making the tournament is actually way better for Duke than making the tournament and getting skunked in the first round, just getting like blown out of the game.

Speaker 15 You're not disagreeing in a COVID year, in a COVID year, oh, it was TV TV Teddy. Ted Valentine called me.

Speaker 15 Yeah, of course it was. Yeah, he literally is just there so that everyone will watch him.

Speaker 15 I'm going to disagree with that just because if you're Duke, you have, how many years in a row has it been?

Speaker 33 Two.

Speaker 15 No, no. How many years in a row have they gone to the tournament?

Speaker 28 Like,

Speaker 15 they haven't had a missed tournament in their life. 96? 1996.

Speaker 16 That means something.

Speaker 15 I'm calling it. I'm calling it.
That means something. I'm checking.
I'm checking. Like, when Wisconsin didn't go to the tournament a few years ago, I was bummed out.

Speaker 15 Like, I think that when you go to the tournament every single year you there's a little bit of pride for that 95. there it is so i think that not going to the tournament hank that's i mean

Speaker 15 you you can't you're duke you can't it's a covet year dude it's a covid year's gone this whole year anyway any other team and it may it's okay but you if you're duke you cannot miss the tournament no i i normal year i would agree with you i i think it's a little bit different this year don't get me wrong like Duke should have made the tournament with all the talent that they have and Coach K being allegedly, we were told that Coach K was the best coach in the nation.

Speaker 16 That's my favorite thing to say, by the way, is like, we were told this. And then you can just say whatever afterwards and then argue against that straw man.

Speaker 16 But like, it is bad for Duke not to make the tournament. But in, if you're going to pick a year to do it, this is without end.

Speaker 16 Well, it is two years in a row because remember, they they withdrew last year before it was canceled. But it's, it's way better than

Speaker 16 that you have to do it this year than if it was a normal year.

Speaker 15 No, I think if you asked most Dukes, Duke fans, they'd rather make the tournament and lose in the first round than not make the tournament. which is still on the table because

Speaker 16 you you are duke you can't miss the tournament like that actually means something to not have missed a tournament since 1995 that's that's crazy the uh the ending of the west virginia baylor game was that's college basketball in a nutshell agree that that game was over like seven times or it should have been over seven times it it's the foul shooting like i you know what i'm going to do this year i think in the tournament i'm just going to bet against the spread on the team that shoots better foul shots, like the team that has a higher percentage, just blindly in the first round.

Speaker 16 Because when it comes down to nut cutting time, when it's a big game, and if it's in the tournament, like there's nerves absolutely become a factor for the worst foul shooting teams.

Speaker 15 Well, it's not even foul, it's foul shooting, but it's also, you know, when you have college kids making decisions at the end of games, you saw the exact same thing in Georgia Tech, and like you can't get the ball inbound.

Speaker 15 So you just say, hey, fuck it, I'm just going to chuck it halfway down the court. And nothing good ever happens with that.

Speaker 15 and i it's just oh billy you i just noticed billy's got the 69 ping pong bulb right in our face awesome you asshole

Speaker 15 you asshole you know what i thought i thought that was like a little on-screen text that billy edited in there somehow no he was pointing to it that's why i lost my train of thought because he kept on pointing to it either way awesome night of hoops shout out by the way the Horizon League.

Speaker 15 The Horizon League, I've long time said that is maxion for

Speaker 15 basketball. It's, I mean, it exists just for basketball.
Cleveland State, Northern Kentucky, Milwaukee, Wright State, Youngstown State, all these teams.

Speaker 15 There were four games in the Horizon League tournament tonight. Three out of four of them went to overtime.
One of them went to double overtime or no, triple overtime.

Speaker 15 And the biggest margin of victory was four. The only game that didn't go to overtime was a one-point game.
It was crazy. It was absolute insanity in the Horizon League.

Speaker 15 So shout out the Horizon League for giving us a great night of hoops. And yeah, I mean, I just love this time of year.

Speaker 15 I get all the TVs going. I'm just fucking eating up hoops left and right.

Speaker 16 It's great. I'm excited.
And like, I joke about not getting into college basketball until the very last week of February. So I can say that it's not just because of March.

Speaker 15 But I was going to say, when you said,

Speaker 15 I realized like a week ago that Illinois was good, I was like, well, is that

Speaker 15 the first time you watched him, right?

Speaker 16 I was like, wait, is Dee Miller not on the team anymore? No, I mean, I get really into college basketball for these six weeks of the year. Which, what's up?

Speaker 15 Deep D Brown.

Speaker 15 De Brown Brown.

Speaker 16 Deep Brown. Yeah, my bad.
But I get really into college basketball these six weeks of the year, which I think is like

Speaker 16 maybe one week more than most of America gets into it. But it's

Speaker 16 different. It gets your blood going late at night, and there's always another game on, which is incredible.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 So we also have JJ Watt. JJ Watt got

Speaker 15 shocked the world,

Speaker 15 signs with the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 37 No one expected it.

Speaker 15 I love these signings when not even like Schefter was surprised. Rappaport was surprised.
All the insiders were surprised. JJ Watt is signing with the Cardinals.
I just assume it's the most money.

Speaker 15 Like I, can we just say that? Like it's the most guaranteed money. I know Kyler Murray and all this stuff.
I think it's the most guaranteed money and he probably just didn't want to play in the cold.

Speaker 16 Yeah, that's it. It literally was the most guaranteed money.
I think Cleveland was right around Buffalo and they're in the 15 million neighborhood, 14, 15 million. And so he's like, you know what?

Speaker 16 I'd rather just, I'd rather go not live on the shores of Lake Erie. I'd rather go to Lake Havasu instead of Lake Erie and collect that extra million or so.

Speaker 16 And it does make a difference, like a million, two million dollars a year on a two-year deal. Like, yeah, J.J.
Watts made a lot of money, but he's nearing the end of his career.

Speaker 16 And he's obviously going to take the,

Speaker 16 like, if he's not going to take a discount to play with his brothers, he's not going to take a discount to play for the bills at this point why why would you take a discount yeah i i never understood people who are like

Speaker 15 i guess if it was maybe three years from now and jj watt was literally a shell of himself but this is a 32 year old guy who has one last chance to make a ton of money because even if he went into a career of media right afterwards he's not going to make this money like not every like how many media jobs are out there how many guys are getting tony romo money one

Speaker 15 so it like he this is his last opportunity and it's just baffling when people are like wow why wouldn't he go chase a rings like because rings are not guaranteed and i don't know if someone's offering you seven million dollars more whatever it may be i'd probably take it It was one of those slap your forehead moments because when he signed with the Cardinals, everybody was like, wait, why is he going to the Cardinals?

Speaker 16 Well, yeah, it's obviously money is one, but also his former defensive coach, Vance Joseph, is there. Right.

Speaker 16 And so that was like, oh, yeah, we probably all should have spent more time talking about that and less time talking about his Peloton, trying to figure that out, which that was, that was a hilarious moment when people were saying like it's down to Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Buffalo because of his Peloton account, which was fake.

Speaker 16 A fake Peloton account was breaking news about where J.J. Watt was going to go, which is, that is, that's the whitest possible thing.
Like a parody account on Peloton, move over Hamilton tattoos.

Speaker 16 That it doesn't get whiter than that.

Speaker 15 Not only that, but we had already ruled out Pittsburgh. Like Pittsburgh had already said we're not in the running.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 So it was, we got duped by something that couldn't have even been possibly true. I'm watching right now Purdue.

Speaker 15 I can't stand the fact that Purdue just grows eight footers. They just have fucking the tallest dude always at center who just is five feet taller than everyone else.

Speaker 15 One of them transferred to BYU, the guy who's harms. Yes, Matt Harms, yeah.

Speaker 16 Purdue always has, they always have tall guys, and Pittsburgh always has the, like, the biggest ass in college basketball on their team.

Speaker 15 Fucking sucks. All right.

Speaker 16 I do like the move for the Cardinals defense, though, like from a football standpoint. Like if you get 80% of JJ Watt, like I looked up the stats, Cardinals, they were 10th in DVOA last year, but

Speaker 16 I don't know. I don't want to say DVO.
Like I use DVOA plus, which is just DVOA plus whatever my gut feel is about that defense. And my gut feel is they were kind of candy ass.

Speaker 16 uh and have like in that division if you can hit the quarterback like if you can hit Russell Wilson, you can beat the Seahawks twice a year. Well,

Speaker 15 he might not be in that division. I just, yeah,

Speaker 15 their defense might be better.

Speaker 16 They still have Cliff Kingsbury as their coach, so I don't believe in them. Yeah.
No, that's, that's sorry, not sorry.

Speaker 16 I also don't get the whole, like, everyone out there that's like, oh, everyone wants to retire in Arizona. I don't, I don't want to retire in Arizona.
It's way too hot.

Speaker 16 Hank, why are you, why are you shaking? Arizona is great if you guys just hate like nice weather. No, No, I would retire in Arizona, it's like 110 degrees.
It's great if you like

Speaker 16 sweating on a golf course uh owned by Dan Marley with like four retired car dealer owners in front of you.

Speaker 15 I'd retire in Arizona pool, yeah, kill a couple scorpions, yeah, yeah, get a little dust in your beer. I'd retire in Arizona, I'd retire in Arizona before I retired in Florida,

Speaker 15 and Arizona has portillos.

Speaker 15 Boom, depends on what part of Florida,

Speaker 15 yeah. I the the panhandle.

Speaker 21 Yeah, fair.

Speaker 15 That's fair.

Speaker 16 Now, if you say anything bad about Orlando and the medieval times that they have, Orlando, that's the goal.

Speaker 15 The last thing I had with JJ Watt was it was hilarious seeing

Speaker 15 the people being like, we didn't even want him. That one guy who tweeted

Speaker 15 from an inside source in the Texans facility, JJ Watts, a me first guy and doesn't even, you know, all he cares about himself is like, oh, that had nothing to do with the fact that you didn't get him.

Speaker 15 And then the t-shirt thing, which Hank, I know you loved. JJ Watt had five t-shirts of his five finalists sent to a friend because he was worried that the FedEx or the UPS person was going to leak it.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 I respect that he was keeping the secret.

Speaker 16 Hank, you actually fell for the Peloton thing. You were like, I can't believe that JJ is doing this.
Like, what a drama. I just said, come on.

Speaker 15 It's just sad that rapper biased. You're fucking rapping.

Speaker 15 What do you want me to do?

Speaker 16 You're biased against JJ Watts. You're going to have to be a big J, like disgusting.

Speaker 16 How about the guy who's number JJ Watts stealing?

Speaker 15 I know.

Speaker 16 Yes. So this guy.
He's respect.

Speaker 15 So he's

Speaker 15 World War II veteran.

Speaker 16 He fought in the Pacific. He's probably one of the guys in the Iwo Gima statue.

Speaker 16 He's probably one of those guys.

Speaker 15 Get ready for the longest Instagram caption of your fucking life once it gets official. So he took 99 troops from that guy.

Speaker 16 Yeah, JJ, just take number 40.

Speaker 15 Selfish reasons, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 15 seriously, though. Hank, you're such a hater.

Speaker 15 No, I was just like, I respect the troops.

Speaker 15 Before we do Hot Sequel Trone, PFT, do we have to have an intervention? Are you good?

Speaker 16 About what?

Speaker 43 You know.

Speaker 37 You know what about.

Speaker 16 I actually don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 15 Responding to a certain someone on Twitter that I said you were going to do?

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Well, I unshunned him, him, then I re-shunned him, like Dwight Shrewd on the office.

Speaker 16 So, I mean, he's out here running his lips, talking all this shit, saying like I'm ducking him.

Speaker 15 You couldn't resist.

Speaker 16 That I'm using the company to duck him. It's like, no, Darren, you just wanted out of his name, please.

Speaker 15 You just wanted $2 million.

Speaker 16 You just came up with $2 million out of the air. And then my boss has said, no, we don't want to pay Darren Ravel any dollars.
We want to pay him $0.

Speaker 16 We don't want to do a financial transaction with Darren Revelle because he's a loser. And so now Darren's like, Why are you hiding behind your company? They can make five to seven million easy off it.

Speaker 16 And so, I told Darren, if it's that lucrative of a business proposition, Darren, sounds like you should probably put the fight on yourself, and I'll show up for free.

Speaker 15 You should just pull up with a and Vanny woodenhead and just kidnap that is a checkmate.

Speaker 29 If we're gonna jump, Darren Revelle, I would hop in the car.

Speaker 16 I did good, though, big cat.

Speaker 15 I, I, no, you didn't, you responded to him, but I lasted

Speaker 15 through the whole at PFT. Yeah, we went through this like PFT, theoretically, Darren Revell, who to you, what are you going to do? Yeah, we went.

Speaker 15 We did like live practice and you just got on the field and threw an interception right away. You saw like the first pass rush and you just threw it right into a guy.

Speaker 16 It looked too good.

Speaker 16 I couldn't help myself because he was coming at me. So I will no longer be replying to any

Speaker 15 tweets.

Speaker 16 My conditions for this fight are clear. We need to get you tokens.

Speaker 15 We should.

Speaker 16 One month of not tweeting it.

Speaker 15 I should go to it. We take something away from you that you love every time you do it.

Speaker 16 No, you can't punish me. It has to be like a 12-step program.
What's step one? I'll start tonight.

Speaker 15 Not responding to Darren Revelle.

Speaker 16 No, 12-step program. Let's see.
I'm looking up right now. Oh, man.
12-step program steps.

Speaker 15 Acceptance, denial. Yeah, you're in denial.

Speaker 16 You're talking about grieving, Hank.

Speaker 15 Those are the steps of grief.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 16 12-step program.

Speaker 16 What are each of the 12 honesty?

Speaker 15 Step one. You haven't been honest with yourself.

Speaker 16 Is honesty.

Speaker 16 Recovery can begin with one simple admission of being powerless.

Speaker 15 There it is.

Speaker 15 There it is. You haven't done that.
You just said, I won't respond to him anymore.

Speaker 15 The real honesty is,

Speaker 15 I am powerless to responding to Darren Revelle. It will probably happen again.

Speaker 16 I can stop anytime that I want. Yeah, right.

Speaker 15 Okay. Exactly.
Okay.

Speaker 16 I, hi, my name is PFT.

Speaker 15 Hi, PFT.

Speaker 26 Hey, PFT.

Speaker 16 And I'm a Revellolik.

Speaker 16 I can't stop. I'm powerless over myself.
I can't stop replying to his tweets.

Speaker 15 You also started it yourself.

Speaker 15 Let's not ignore the fact that you're not. Yeah, you did that.
You threw pictures of him. You started the whole thing.

Speaker 15 He responded to you because you basically were like, hey, I want to talk about Ravel today.

Speaker 16 I just thought he looked good as a girl. That's all.

Speaker 15 You're obsessed. Listen, I'm but a man.
I don't want to say not bleed. Part of me thinks he might live a little rent-free.
He's paying,

Speaker 15 it's rent-controlled. Well, he's so he, so the rent is like $3,000.
He's only paying $900 a month.

Speaker 16 It's rent like in that Black Mirror episode where you get for cheaper if you're brand strong.

Speaker 15 That's what I give him. He's living rent-controlled in your head right now.

Speaker 16 Jake, I just need,

Speaker 16 you know what I'll do? Every time I want to reply to Darren, we have a better version of Darren here. I'll just direct all that energy to Jake.

Speaker 15 There you go. You can direct it to me, but I'm not going to tweet at him because he's still going to get what he wants.
No, no, no, no, don't, don't.

Speaker 16 This is, we're keeping this all in-house right now.

Speaker 15 We're closing circles here. No, no, no.
This isn't going to work.

Speaker 15 Yeah, this isn't going to work because you're just going to, you're going to address him and you're going to say it to Jake like you're tweeting the, so you're going to start sub-tweeting him and it's going to get you off that way to Jake.

Speaker 15 This isn't going to work. I start calling Jake.
What it, Darren? Yeah, you're basically

Speaker 15 just. You just basically found a way to drink like 25 non-alcoholic beers and get it.
Just make a burner account, PST.

Speaker 15 Do what any adult does.

Speaker 16 I should make a burner.

Speaker 16 a great idea, Hank. I'm going to make a burner account.
Yeah, I have a burner Twitter account. Okay.
Yes.

Speaker 15 What if we send him a message and say, like, promo for the fight?

Speaker 29 We're going to do like a WWE pre-scene where you jump out of Manning Woodhead and beat him up and tell him to like come.

Speaker 15 We're not going to jump on Billy, okay? And then we move off that out.

Speaker 15 No, we'll move off that out. Yeah.
Now I'm getting worried.

Speaker 15 This is the problem sometimes. I like have Billy who actually physically wants to jump Darren Revello outside of his house.
PFT can't stop replying to him. And what the ship is sinking right now.

Speaker 16 Okay. I've got it, though.
I've got it under control. Burner account's getting set up tonight.
I'm not going to say what the handle is, but it'll be there.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 15 But if it's obviously you, it's not going to be obviously needed.

Speaker 16 I don't know.

Speaker 15 It needs to be something that people don't realize so that you can get it off your chest. But then as soon as people are like, oh, that's PFT, then it's going to...

Speaker 15 you'll get the attention and then it becomes a thing. So you have to, it almost has to be completely anonymous.
There's going to be so many. 100% anonymous.

Speaker 16 No one will ever know. And here's why it'll be anonymous because the people who actually set up multiple people who actually do reply to Darren's tweets are way meaner to him than I would ever be.

Speaker 16 Like

Speaker 16 out of bounds mean to him. So I'll, I'll blend in seamlessly.

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Speaker 54 The hat looks great.

Speaker 24 You can buy it at the Barstool Sports Store.

Speaker 30 And I'm also pumping up Billy this week, even though he didn't do simp week last week.

Speaker 42 He just failed to do that. But I am going to reciprocate and actually give him a pump-up week.

Speaker 6 I can see it.

Speaker 57 nice to be what?

Speaker 5 I concede

Speaker 16 you concede what

Speaker 38 that you didn't.

Speaker 10 If it was not Be Nice to Billy week this week, I would point out that you're not wearing your headphones once again, but it is

Speaker 39 nice to be able to do it.

Speaker 9 So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 9 It literally doesn't matter.

Speaker 39 I can see.

Speaker 16 Also, Billy's here today, so that's, I mean, 100% improvement over the course of the week. Yup.

Speaker 58 Yep.

Speaker 39 Be nice to Billy. Really?

Speaker 59 It feels great being nice to Billy.

Speaker 31 I love

Speaker 27 being nice to Billy.

Speaker 39 Okay, Hank, Henry,

Speaker 31 good-looking stud of a guy, Hank.

Speaker 61 Now you think I'm fucking with you.

Speaker 6 No. And now I think I'm fucking with you, but I'm not.

Speaker 61 I think you just actually look good today.

Speaker 16 His hair, Hank, is it like curling out at the edges there? It's flowing.

Speaker 39 The problem, the problem with it is relaxing.

Speaker 10 It looks terrible without a hat on, and it's like gone like three weeks.

Speaker 24 No, no, no.

Speaker 39 Let's see it. Take the hat off, Hank.

Speaker 10 Screenshots live forever.

Speaker 18 Take it off, Hank.

Speaker 39 Take the hat off.

Speaker 9 Absolutely not.

Speaker 10 I'll take my hat off. You take your glasses off.
Ready, 3-2-1.

Speaker 60 Okay.

Speaker 10 Former Nike VP and Hebert.

Speaker 10 Crazy story that came out. And the funniest part is that this kid did it all to himself.
Yep.

Speaker 10 He is this kid who, his mom is the VP at Nike, so high up, worked at Nike for 25 years, worked away up as like the VP running shit.

Speaker 10 Her son is a sneaker reseller, started a company called West Coast Streetwear, which, you know, classic, gonna start a streetwear company.

Speaker 39 West Coast Streetwear.

Speaker 62 Is that his name?

Speaker 10 That's like the car company that Exhibit ran and yeah pit my ride yeah he would use his mom's credit card and like bought and like did all this stuff to buy all of the sneaker releases like before they come so people can buy them and they would resell them at a price make money off it no one knew that his mom was the vp of nike he went out of his way basically to do a story and like tell all this information to bloomberg

Speaker 10 and called the bloomberg reporter one time to like ask about the story and because his mom paid the cell phone bill

Speaker 10 her name showed up on the caller id which made the reporter obviously like, that's interesting. Looked it up, connected dots, put it together.

Speaker 10 And then, so the story that the kid was just trying to like gas himself up, basically, it was just all ego.

Speaker 10 Like, he was just trying to get press for himself, ended up, like, getting, like, fucked his mom over. His mom had to quit.

Speaker 39 Quit, yep.

Speaker 10 Uh, and, like, exposed the entire Nike industry streetwear resell business. And, like, it's all just because this kid had a huge ego and just trying to, like,

Speaker 64 keep free press.

Speaker 57 It's the perfect story for 2021.

Speaker 65 This kid

Speaker 66 paid for Bloomberg to to write a story about him where his, you know, being like, wow, this guy's such a great entrepreneur.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah, forgot to mention that your mom's a fucking higher-up C-suite person at Nike.

Speaker 64 Like, it's just perfect.

Speaker 16 So was he using her position to get the shoes early to win the auctions?

Speaker 16 Well, so they because all I know, I don't think anyone ever actually wins a sneakers auction because I swear to God, I've never seen anybody be like, this is awesome. I just won.

Speaker 16 It's always like, fuck me. Why am I doing this? I waste another Saturday morning.

Speaker 1 So there were two things.

Speaker 49 One is that he was using, so he was pretending that he was like this big entrepreneur and like, wow, like, you know, it does sound like he's got a good business plan.

Speaker 31 I'm doing it all on my own, grinding out here.

Speaker 67 He was using his mom's credit card.

Speaker 67 And there was also, he, he, quote unquote, found three Marty McFly shoes in an in a warehouse in Oregon, like just happened upon them, these super, super expensive shoes.

Speaker 57 And they think like that was clearly his mom just giving them to him.

Speaker 39 Yeah, so he's the whole thing.

Speaker 10 So he was using bots that were illegal, and then he was also basically like conveniently he he had you know information about when shoes were going to be taken off the market forever so it's like he would be able to buy those shoes before they got taken off the market and then once they get taken off the market they're worth a lot more so he and then he in this article basically he was like well you know if you live in portland area there's so many nike and adidas execs it's just a good place to sell shoes like if you know the right people okay he's saying not like not mentioning the fact that the right people was his fucking mom he's like this is information you could glean by just hanging out in a coffee shop in Portland because everyone's talking about these shoes and when they're going to go on sale.

Speaker 16 But his mom's saying that she had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 33 No, his mom quit.

Speaker 18 I mean, yeah, it was.

Speaker 68 He was using it for Nike for 25 years.

Speaker 39 He was using her credit card. His retirement plan?

Speaker 10 Her dad. I mean, that's the thing.

Speaker 42 It's like, you better sell some fucking Jordan.

Speaker 33 He better hope that

Speaker 10 he was involved. Her mom was involved because otherwise, like, that kid's screwed for life.
Like,

Speaker 10 if her mom was taking a cut or whatever, then they're in it together. But there's a good chance that

Speaker 10 he was just, he just fucked his mom over in her entire career.

Speaker 16 when cloud chasing goes wrong.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it said he was making $250,000 a month.

Speaker 6 She better have had something to do with it.

Speaker 39 And he had a Discord chase.

Speaker 6 He's like a young kid who has probably $10 million.

Speaker 16 I'm just going to say this. I kind of like this kid.
No. The kid saw an opportunity.
No. And he maximized his earning potential.

Speaker 18 Wrong.

Speaker 39 Like stealing his house's money.

Speaker 18 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 39 No, he rented out his own warehouse.

Speaker 67 Dude, dude, that kid is a fucking CEO boss.

Speaker 33 No, but that's a good idea.

Speaker 39 That was hard to get hosting shit online about

Speaker 10 He was like, it's all self-made. Like, he was

Speaker 10 pointing out that he was a self-made entrepreneur of like

Speaker 10 he had all the money came from his mom. He's all the inside information.

Speaker 67 And he's the reason PFT.

Speaker 16 Every other rich person's parents had money. That's how they became rich.
He just stole it.

Speaker 27 But he's the reason why you don't win sneakers auctions.

Speaker 63 Like these type of people who are basically gaming the system with bots, it ruins it for everyone else.

Speaker 62 It sucks.

Speaker 35 I'm happy that this kid got exposed and maybe like regular people can start buying shoes.

Speaker 16 I don't know, I don't fuck around with these made-up marketplaces like sneakers. I spend my money on solid investments like Dogecoin and Alex Caruso gifts.

Speaker 55 Fuck this kid.

Speaker 8 I'm so happy.

Speaker 24 It was such a great story, especially the fact that he like sought out Bloomberg to do the story about him.

Speaker 10 And the fact that he's making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month, but his mom is still paying his phone bill, which is like the smoking gun of how he got caught.

Speaker 39 Brad, he had this one, I saw this one picture of like all these shoe boxes that he had on his deck where he had, I don't know, it was probably 500 shoes that he's just marking up and ripping people off.

Speaker 39 Ah, it was a beautiful story.

Speaker 10 Like, it got to be too much where it's like a warehouse.

Speaker 6 He was almost running his own like secret deck. Yeah, he literally had no more room.

Speaker 50 Right.

Speaker 73 You were now at the point, it's like, it's like almost, it's almost as if, like, a ticket scalper bought 60,000 seats to a football game.

Speaker 38 It's like, well, what the fuck, dude?

Speaker 59 No one can go to this game now.

Speaker 16 It's just, it's sad to see you guys not respecting the grind of a youngster out there.

Speaker 45 I love this story. It was so great to see this kid get it.

Speaker 60 All right, what's your cool drone?

Speaker 10 My cool throne, I have a couple. First one, Jason Sudeikis.

Speaker 10 He won Best Actor for Ted Lasso. I just watched the show this weekend, so it was delightful.

Speaker 10 It was one of those things where, you know, you watch the show over the weekend, and all of a sudden, boom, Golden Globes, he wins. It's like, good for Jason.

Speaker 18 Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 39 Though I don't know why he hasn't come on the show at any point.

Speaker 10 It's right up our alley.

Speaker 16 Ted Lasso is one of those shows that I sat down and started watching it. I wanted to hate it.
It was goofy. I wanted to hate it because I was like, this is a commercial.

Speaker 52 It's corny.

Speaker 16 They're turning a commercial into a full-length show.

Speaker 16 And it ended up just, it warmed my ice-cold, tiny little heart. I felt good after watching every episode.

Speaker 16 It's so rare to find something in 2021 that you consume and you actually feel better about the world after watching it.

Speaker 16 And Ted Lasso is one of those things, although I didn't like the play that he drew up at the end, the football player.

Speaker 9 I had to pass the lasso.

Speaker 16 No spoilers.

Speaker 67 It's the most meta show ever.

Speaker 37 Because you start it and you're like, this is the corniest, most obnoxious thing ever.

Speaker 30 And then you fall in love with with Ted Lasso, just like everyone falls in love with Ted Lasso.

Speaker 62 They do it to you.

Speaker 39 It was goofy and then I was like crying.

Speaker 9 I was crying at points. Yes, it's incredible.

Speaker 73 They broke through the television screen because I think everyone had the exact same experience.

Speaker 40 They're like, whoa, this is corny. It's a fucking commercial made into a show.

Speaker 34 Oh, wait.

Speaker 54 I love Ted Lasso. I wish Ted Lasso was my dad.

Speaker 16 Yeah, well, by the end of it, I was like, I would like for the Washington football team to hire Ted Lasso.

Speaker 16 Right. Like, you can't convince me that Ted Lasso couldn't take the Jets to 10-6.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 And then in his acceptance speech, I don't think he was expecting to win because he won. And then he was like, ah, well, okay.

Speaker 10 It took him like 10.

Speaker 10 I mean, you only had like a minute in those awards here.

Speaker 27 He looked like he was enjoying some 3C.

Speaker 10 It took him like five minutes to get his thoughts together.

Speaker 6 He also.

Speaker 10 3C, but you think you're just going to be sitting there like waving, and then all of a sudden you get called on and you're like, oh, I have to speak.

Speaker 16 This is bad.

Speaker 30 He won, though, that award show, not only because he won the award, but the fact that he didn't dress up like the losers who got in their tuxes.

Speaker 50 Like, dude, this is the one year where you don't have to dress up.

Speaker 30 Be a normal person.

Speaker 6 Like, don't, you don't have to.

Speaker 49 The most abnormal thing you can do is dressing up in a tuxedo in your own home and then hopping on a Zoom.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 49 Like, just be yourself.

Speaker 59 And so.

Speaker 8 Seeing him and then Don Cheeto telling him to wrap it up in his tux, you're like, all right, Jason Sudeikis won this because he's just hanging out on a Sunday night.

Speaker 16 It'd also have been sick if he was wearing like a suit top and then just no pants and he like stood up to accept the award in his underwear.

Speaker 16 That would have been cool too, but it it's one of the best shows that I've seen on television the last three years. It's very good.
Very good. I'm simping for Ted Lasso hard over here.

Speaker 70 All right, your hot seat cool tour on PFT?

Speaker 16 My hot seat is unpaid internships.

Speaker 16 Unpaid internships on the hot seat. Billy is paid.
I don't like that look on your face, Billy. We pay you handsomely.

Speaker 51 The look is because you stole one of his hot seat cool tours.

Speaker 16 We pay you in rabbit meat on a bi-weekly basis, so you're paid handsomely. But Jane Slater, full disclosure, she's a friend.
I like Jane. I think she's a very nice person.

Speaker 16 And she tweeted out yesterday that she was looking for an unpaid intern for her friend or for like an acquaintance who was setting up some sort of like digital media thing.

Speaker 16 It was going to be like a part-time thing for a student who was still in college. And Twitter came down on her with the heat of a thousand sons and just did not stop.

Speaker 16 And I think like it became a thing where some people were using the excuse to talk about to like backlash against the backlash to be like, this is how hard I grinded on my way up.

Speaker 16 I worked 10 hours a day unpaid and walked uphill both ways to it.

Speaker 16 And certainly there's like a lot of hard work that goes into where we got at this point, but I'm not going to sit here and act like it's not because we're hot.

Speaker 16 Like at the end of the day, like we slept our way to the top like anybody else. But people were saying like we

Speaker 16 that unpaid internships are like the worst thing on earth. And it is actually like.
It sucks. Unpaid internships suck.
It's not really fair for people that can't afford to take them.

Speaker 16 But it became one of those things where it was just a day of dunking on Twitter I just I felt bad for at the end of the day but some of the people were making a good point which is like hey if you uh can afford like big cat was saying earlier the nfl was looking for unpaid internships yeah the nfl can afford it if you can afford to pay interns you should probably pay interns i just wonder uh i i totally agree that you internships should be paid we've we've passed that you know what i mean like 10 years ago that's how it was that you could get there was unpaid internships everywhere And my take is just because it sucked for some people doesn't mean it should suck for everyone.

Speaker 50 Like, we should move forward and be like, hey, if you're doing work, if you're doing a service, you should get paid for it.

Speaker 30 But I just, I love when everyone just makes the same point on Twitter, just and

Speaker 6 like continually dunks on someone or dunks on a topic.

Speaker 43 And it's like, you guys aren't doing anything.

Speaker 61 You're just, you're not changing, you're talking to no one.

Speaker 46 You're just shouting into a void.

Speaker 42 Someday you're going to realize this was all worthless.

Speaker 39 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 16 It was, it was a day on Twitter that i felt worse after a school yeah they all

Speaker 30 right i felt i i read it i was just like this kind of sucks i was like i gotta go home and watch ted lasso the the point's not wrong it's just it's obnoxious when everyone makes it over and over trying to be like here's how right i am yeah exactly uh yeah billy in defense of unpaid internships uh a lot of

Speaker 21 people people

Speaker 16 wait no right now okay i love it billy i love it yes this is billy negotiating wait if i negotiate this is billy negotiating in a nutshell everybody in the room was like you should pay interns more and then Billy's like actually

Speaker 42 I if I were gonna be nice to Billy this week which I am being nice to Billy this week I'd tell him to shut his mouth right now and not go any further because he's about to dig himself a grave but go ahead a lot of people who are qualified for the unpaid internships

Speaker 11 are part of institutions

Speaker 10 private or public

Speaker 44 that provide funding

Speaker 11 for people who take unpaid internships.

Speaker 44 Cuts in their vested interests

Speaker 11 that their students can.

Speaker 16 So you're saying, like, like Northwestern University, my Middle School of Journalism,

Speaker 16 we pay our students to take unpaid internships.

Speaker 53 Exactly.

Speaker 16 It's just a matter of where the money is coming from. Right.
But what about people that don't go to those schools? Like, hypothetically,

Speaker 16 Northwestern, these elite institutions that you're speaking of, it's free to go there, right?

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 16 Okay, so you do have to pay them to go there so that they'll pay part of your salary.

Speaker 67 So the point, Billy, I think what people are making, and I agree with, but again, it was obnoxious how everyone had to make it over and over and over ad nauseum.

Speaker 8 But the point I think people are trying to make is that when you have an unpaid internship, you're basically stopping a bunch of people from getting that internship because they can't afford to live with no pay.

Speaker 50 Whereas some people with a safety net can be like, oh, I'm going to go have an unpaid internship for a year, and you know, my parents or someone will help me out financially, whether it be rent, food, whatever it may be.

Speaker 39 So, you're basically shutting off an entire group of people who can't afford to take an unpaid internship. Therefore, that's wrong.

Speaker 66 And I agree with that.

Speaker 65 Do you get that part? Yeah, yeah. No.

Speaker 25 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 74 See? Be nice to Billy.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Billy's shown a lot of growth, actually.

Speaker 16 One thing I've noticed about him in the last couple of weeks, when he's wrong about something, instead of being like, no, I'm not wrong, and then thinking up new lies to tell you about why he's not wrong, he's actually been like, yeah, my bad.

Speaker 16 I've heard Billy say my bad like five times, even though that does make you a beta.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 44 I'm just conceding.

Speaker 24 They should actually make Twitter, there should just be one boss like blue check mark who just makes the one point and then leaves it.

Speaker 16 Magic Johnson. Like, that's it.

Speaker 37 There's the point. Instead of

Speaker 30 like a thousand journalists all making the same point and talking down to people and then eventually making everyone be like, this kind of sucks.

Speaker 16 Yeah, who do you think the boss journalist in America would be?

Speaker 28 Peter King.

Speaker 16 Peter King, maybe, maybe Peter King, but I feel like Peter gets dunked on a lot, too. He does.
He does. Richard Deitch.

Speaker 42 And Peter King definitely is a back-in-my-day guy.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Richard Deitch for Canada. Okay.

Speaker 46 Ghost of Walter Cronkite.

Speaker 39 There it is. There you go.

Speaker 16 Yeah, perfect. Start the Twitter account.
My cool throne is Chicago Bears' hydration levels.

Speaker 70 Well, you stole that from me.

Speaker 16 What do you mean I stole that?

Speaker 39 I was at my hot seat cool throne.

Speaker 46 Okay, well, we can discuss it together. Okay.

Speaker 16 So the Chicago Bears hired Tom Herman, former Texas head coach as their special projects coach. Meaning,

Speaker 16 he's going to do one of two things. When I hear special projects, which is a hilarious name for an NFL coach that you're hiring, the special projects guy.

Speaker 16 I think one, he's either just going to be the full-time Cordorell-Patterson offensive coordinator, just designing plays non-stop for Corderell, or two, he is just going to be running a 24-7 piss laboratory to make sure that they're maintaining those elite hydration levels.

Speaker 16 He's the guy at Texas that put the charts next to the urinals, and it showed like on a scale of semen to red, how yellow is your P.

Speaker 16 And then depending on what level you were at, that's how good you were going to play that week.

Speaker 31 So three, which is actually, I think, the reality of this situation, is Matt Nagy, and it's maybe the first smart thing he's done, is if you hire enough people that you can then pass the blame around to, it might give you a little more time.

Speaker 16 That's true. And it's also a great excuse to incept other people.
Like, when you say, my biggest flaw is I need to get better at delegating.

Speaker 16 It's great because it makes everybody else think to themselves, that guy works too hard.

Speaker 16 That guy's such a damn hard worker, he needs to learn how to not focus on being great at everything all by himself. He needs to hire a couple people and spread it out.

Speaker 56 So the interesting, it's really a life comes at you fast moment for Tom Herman because it was, what, four years ago where he was hired at Texas from Houston.

Speaker 31 Remember, he had the

Speaker 45 his business card that said like future head coach of Texas.

Speaker 46 Yep.

Speaker 49 He was the perfect hire.

Speaker 8 He was the dream hire.

Speaker 73 He was an A-plus slam dunk.

Speaker 31 And now he just got invited to the Titanic and he's like, yes, first class, please.

Speaker 16 Well, you don't know that. Maybe he had a special projects coordinator for Chicago Bears.

Speaker 8 I don't know why you'd want to join this coaching staff.

Speaker 42 I mean,

Speaker 72 unless Tom Herman was told that they got Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson, you were signing up for a ship that is sinking.

Speaker 16 Basically, his options probably came down to Chicago Bears special projects guy or the guy that cleans Nick Saban's toilets. And he was like, you know what? I'd rather stay away from the baby.

Speaker 16 Take a shot. Yeah, I'd rather be Nick Foles.

Speaker 16 Well, that brings to mind another question if you're talking about piss, like, he he might just be hired to design a chamber that's big enough for all of Nick Foles' piss to fit into so you can analyze it.

Speaker 16 It's

Speaker 39 whatever.

Speaker 8 Just hire as many people as you want.

Speaker 55 I don't care.

Speaker 42 Nothing's going to change.

Speaker 16 I do love that strategy, though, to just be like, I need to, you know, my biggest fault is I need to get better at letting go of things. Yeah.

Speaker 27 No, they're going to pass it around.

Speaker 54 They're going to pass it.

Speaker 43 It's going to be hot potato in Hallis Hall for the entire year next year, where it's going to be, you know, you do this, you do that.

Speaker 6 Here, you call plays.

Speaker 37 All right, what do we want to do install here?

Speaker 58 And then eventually it's going to lead to the same spot, and everyone's going to be like, accountability, accountability, communication, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 33 Fuck off.

Speaker 33 All right.

Speaker 6 I guess I have to, on the fly, I'll change my hot seat, cool throne.

Speaker 58 They both got taken.

Speaker 67 My hot seat is

Speaker 1 the 16-game schedule for the NFL because it looks like we're going to 17.

Speaker 8 And my cool throne will be the 18-game schedule because as soon as we go to 17, we're going to go to 18.

Speaker 66 It's the greatest

Speaker 8 sleight of hand that the NFL is doing here where they're saying 17 games, 17 games. They're going to do 17 games.

Speaker 33 And then they're going to be like, well, it's not fair that some teams get more home games than others.

Speaker 16 We've got to go to 18. Well, 17 games just doesn't sound right.
It has to be an even number. You can't just commit to an odd number.
That throws everything off.

Speaker 16 There's going to be no more teams that are 500 anymore. Jeff Fisher is shaking in his boots somewhere.

Speaker 6 I saw some of the rules that are going to change.

Speaker 34 It actually is awesome.

Speaker 8 So there might be a Monday night football playoff game.

Speaker 53 Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 46 They're going to do.

Speaker 1 So the 17th home game is actually going to be decided.

Speaker 4 It's just going to flip-flop.

Speaker 8 So one year all AFC, one year all NFC.

Speaker 31 And then the extra game that they're going to add, which is very cool, it's going to be who you played last year division-wise.

Speaker 61 So like last year, the NFC North played the

Speaker 75 AFC West, right? Wait, fuck.

Speaker 16 I can't think.

Speaker 16 I've permanently blocked all Chicago Bears games from my brain.

Speaker 6 No, we didn't play the Chiefs.

Speaker 12 Did you play the Dolphins? Did you play the Jaguars?

Speaker 68 Did you play the Ravens?

Speaker 49 No, we played the South.

Speaker 12 We played the South. Jaguars, Titans.
Yes, we played the Cult.

Speaker 59 So you'd go top of the NFC North, number one in NFC North.

Speaker 47 The next year plays the number one in the AFC.

Speaker 30 I like that.

Speaker 72 I like that.

Speaker 4 So it's like almost whatever happened last year, and then you match up that way.

Speaker 31 So you basically get, you know, four great games.

Speaker 8 hypothetically speaking, if all things stay the same.

Speaker 42 And I just, and also we might eventually get to a point where we get the Super Bowl and then President's Day.

Speaker 67 Which would have happened this year.

Speaker 16 Yeah, what happened this year? I looked at the calendar and it said that next year it would be, the Super Bowl would be the weekend of President's Day. Perfect.
Which would be incredible.

Speaker 16 We've all been lobbying for the day after the Super Bowl to be a national holiday, which it should. No one should be forced to go to work that hungover ever.

Speaker 8 It just makes the winter shorter.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 16 It also cucks Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, too, because no one's going to celebrate. I'm a big President's Day guy.
I'm not going to think about them at all.

Speaker 68 No, but you have a full day to just talk about it. Full day is great.

Speaker 16 I like that a lot. And you're right.
There's no way that it's going to stay at 17 seasons. No, no, they got

Speaker 16 18 seconds. So Winnie the Pooh, verbal meme,

Speaker 16 17 games. Winnie the Pooh in a top hat and a monocle, 18-game season.

Speaker 42 So it's going to happen. All right, Billy, your hot seat, cool thrown.

Speaker 65 I actually have a couple.

Speaker 25 Oh!

Speaker 44 I was surprised you didn't take any of them. Soldier Boy is Soldier Boy versus the WWE.
Soldier Boy come to the rap game as faker than the WWE, and now he's in a Twitter war with Randy Orton.

Speaker 44 Not a great place to be.

Speaker 44 So, yeah. Soldier Boy vs.
WWE. Another hot seat was internships.

Speaker 10 Who's on the hot seat?

Speaker 13 Soldier Boy.

Speaker 44 Because every WWE superstar says, get in the ring, man.

Speaker 68 Let's do this.

Speaker 16 Is this a work? Yeah, it sounds like Soldier Boy has an album coming out soon.

Speaker 6 I'm not actually... You know what?

Speaker 55 Be nice to Billy Week. Not going to say it.

Speaker 30 I was going to say something about wrestling, whether it's real or fake, but I'm not going to say it.

Speaker 39 It's real. I know, I agree.

Speaker 33 It's real.

Speaker 44 Hot seat, everyone.

Speaker 44 Deep fakes are getting scarily real.

Speaker 16 The Tom Cruise one.

Speaker 6 The Tom Cruise one, yeah. On the golf course.

Speaker 18 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 44 That, you know, we could get deep faked.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I'm sure that I've been deep faked already. Everybody in this room has probably been deep faked at least once.

Speaker 6 Just make my cock big, okay?

Speaker 33 My deep fake.

Speaker 44 First cool throne is Dan Campbell.

Speaker 61 Oh, no, we're going to do that as a segment, so skip to the next one.

Speaker 41 My.

Speaker 61 Actually, this is a...

Speaker 67 Do you guys know the story about DJ Cooper from 2019?

Speaker 63 This is like Billy just opened mic night.

Speaker 18 Uh-huh. Yeah.

Speaker 39 Go. Get it.
Take that. Nice one.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 He.

Speaker 39 Did you guys hear about this one?

Speaker 67 DJ Cooper? Yeah.

Speaker 39 Did you hear about it? Go ahead. Did you hear about it? No, I didn't.

Speaker 44 Well, he was a former Ohio University basketball player. Okay.
He went to play overseas.

Speaker 44 And he took a drug test, as usual, Federal International Basketball Association.

Speaker 44 He's tested positive for pregnancy.

Speaker 16 Congratulations. Yeah.
yeah.

Speaker 6 Which is usually a masking agent, correct?

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 12 He used his girlfriend's piss to pass the drug test.

Speaker 44 Found out she was pregnant.

Speaker 33 That one gets mixed up.

Speaker 16 So he got...

Speaker 39 Well, it's good, bro. Well, it's badness.

Speaker 6 Wait, wait.

Speaker 16 What if it was a golden shower situation? What if he ingested some of her piss? Then when you pissed that piss out, wouldn't your piss then say that you're pregnant?

Speaker 16 Actually, no, when you're pregnant, you can't pee. That's when the water breaks.
You pee for the first time. That's when it comes out.

Speaker 44 Suspended for fraud and a father.

Speaker 54 Ah, nice.

Speaker 53 Congratulations. Nice.

Speaker 74 Jake, did you have anything we missed?

Speaker 12 I have a few. Oh, well, like, for sake of timing, we don't have to do it.

Speaker 9 Give us your best ones.

Speaker 12 Okay, I'll do one of each.

Speaker 12 My hot seat is being scared.

Speaker 12 There was this local San Diego reporter named Jeff McAdam. He was doing a live shot, and there were shots fired behind him, and he did not flinch.

Speaker 16 Big Jake.

Speaker 39 Yeah,

Speaker 39 I saw that.

Speaker 12 Yeah, so Cool Throne would be vacations.

Speaker 12 There's going to be

Speaker 65 fully vaccinated counties

Speaker 62 out in Israel.

Speaker 33 Nice. All nations are back.

Speaker 39 Can I go? Okay.

Speaker 12 Get fully vaccinated.

Speaker 9 Yeah, report back.

Speaker 16 Get your shots, Hank.

Speaker 12 This is only temporary.

Speaker 51 This is only temporary.

Speaker 22 We'll have John Rossing on soon.

Speaker 1 Sunday night, Selection Sunday.

Speaker 22 Everyone keeps asking.

Speaker 4 Selection Sunday is our rosting day.

Speaker 16 I am so excited for a summer of being able to be a summer again.

Speaker 10 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 39 Spring on the summer.

Speaker 57 We missed the whole year.

Speaker 52 All right, let's get to our interview.

Speaker 8 Before we do that, PFT, you had something you want to tell the people?

Speaker 16 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 76 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 76 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk, chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 76 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 76 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 16 And here he is, Brett Favre.

Speaker 24 Okay, we now welcome on NFL Hall of Famer Brett Favre.

Speaker 70 He's got a podcast.

Speaker 51 It's called

Speaker 47 Bowling with Favre.

Speaker 51 You can find it on podcast one.

Speaker 73 Thank you for joining us, Brett.

Speaker 4 We appreciate it.

Speaker 42 I know everyone probably jokes and asks the question like, are you really retired?

Speaker 67 I'm not going to ask that, but I was thinking about what the first question would be.

Speaker 4 And and I was curious: when was the last time you actually had a conversation about potentially coming back after you had finally retired?

Speaker 15 After I, uh, after my second year with the Vikings, um,

Speaker 15 there was there was no conversation, not on my end. Uh,

Speaker 15 now, I think

Speaker 15 I want to say my my agent, Buzz Cook, um,

Speaker 15 received a call from

Speaker 15 some team, maybe maybe the following year had a couple quarterbacks get hurt but uh but i'm not sure on that but i knew i was done i i've had enough well i actually wanted i mean we can get to this right now i would love for you to tell that story the corey wooten story because i just told you before we started that i'm a bears fan so you tortured me but corey wooten putting you uh on the ground on that cold turf uh and i i watched a video where you you basically came to eating a chili dog is that right almost i was uh one of the few times in my career um when i say a few maybe one other time where i blacked out where i was this one obviously was it was actually the last play i ever played

Speaker 15 and um

Speaker 15 if if you can remember back i mean it was the game was played outdoors university of minnesota because the dome had collapsed with too much snow so the field was

Speaker 15 they were done playing. So

Speaker 15 they didn't think it'd be used until the next year.

Speaker 15 It was glazed over with, I mean, it was like a hockey ring.

Speaker 15 And it was one of the more harmless hits that, I don't know, it wasn't even a hit. He really pushed me, slipped on the ice, hit my head.
Next thing I know, I wake up and our trainer, Eric Sugarman, is

Speaker 15 kind of shaking me a little bit. Say, hey, buddy, you okay? And then I woke up.
I actually heard myself snoring, believe it or not.

Speaker 15 And I said, what happened?

Speaker 15 I didn't feel any pain,

Speaker 15 just was kind of disoriented. And he said, well, you had a had a concussion.
So

Speaker 15 with each minute, the fogginess kind of dissipated. And

Speaker 15 We went straight into the locker room,

Speaker 15 took a shower, took a hot shower,

Speaker 15 walked back out on the the field, had a coat on, got me a chili dog and

Speaker 15 a hot chocolate. And

Speaker 15 I knew right then and there that I was done.

Speaker 15 There's never a good time. As we know now, concussions are a major, major issue and can lead to serious health issues.

Speaker 15 Concussions, when I first entered the league, if you even thought about taking a couple of plays off because of a concussion, you were considered

Speaker 15 a wuss. But that's changed.
But I knew, so I knew the seriousness of the injury and the possible repercussions, if you will.

Speaker 15 So I knew, I said, you know,

Speaker 15 I'm telling myself all these things on the sideline.

Speaker 15 This is, if there was ever

Speaker 15 a sign, this is it. you know not to mention i'm in my 20th year um

Speaker 15 you know physically i started feeling it was starting to take its toll just on everyday wear and tear. And then I get this major concussion.
So I said, I'm done. And I never look back.

Speaker 16 One of my favorite parts of every NFL season is when people would just like toss your name out there.

Speaker 16 Because I think for the next five or six years after you retired, it was still like, maybe we could give Brett Farvico, like the second a starter got hurt.

Speaker 16 Your name was the first one that would always come up.

Speaker 16 If it were to happen right now, because I still do like to imagine it, if you had to step in for a weekend, let's say it was a system, let's say it was John Gruden, let's say you went to the Raiders,

Speaker 16 you got a Friday install, you got a dozen reps in practice with your center, with your receivers.

Speaker 16 How many yards could you go out there and throw for on Sunday right now?

Speaker 15 I don't know. I probably need a few more,

Speaker 15 maybe a couple of weeks to kind of get my arm back in shape, which it's not that far out of shape. Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 15 I'm never going to throw the ball 80 yards like i did back in my prime but you in in a in a real life football game you don't throw it 80 yards you throw it you know two three yards five 10 15 maybe an occasional 40.

Speaker 15 um

Speaker 15 but i could do that

Speaker 15 i just

Speaker 15 they can't promise me they're they're not going to hit me right

Speaker 15 right you know i'm i'm 51 years old and i can't complain i feel

Speaker 15 probably better than i should, all things considered.

Speaker 15 So that would be the biggest issue for me.

Speaker 15 My last year,

Speaker 15 which was my last year was in Minnesota, I knew

Speaker 15 physically, it finally kind of hit me. You know, I'd be in practice and it was, it was laborous to get through practice.
Not that practice was necessarily hard.

Speaker 15 It was the same, probably easier than it was in my early years because they scaled back. But it was just, it was hard to get through it.
You know, everything kind of hurt.

Speaker 15 You know, maybe not terribly bad, but it was like right hip would be hurting along with my left ankle.

Speaker 15 Back of my right shoulder, maybe it was sore. So, you know, as far as going back to play, I could do it, but I think the repercussions would be,

Speaker 15 I would regret it, certainly.

Speaker 16 Well, the good news is Dr.

Speaker 16 Heat, Greg Williams, is probably not going to be a defensive coordinator coordinator next year, so you won't have to worry about him busting you up like he did in that Saints Vikings playoff game.

Speaker 16 Could you tell, even by Dr. Heat standards, that he was turning up the heat a little bit high in that bounty gate game?

Speaker 15 I've been asked a lot about that game. Uh, did I have any knowledge or did I feel or um

Speaker 15 sense

Speaker 15 something out of the ordinary?

Speaker 15 Yes, and no.

Speaker 15 By no way, shape, or form did I envision that there was a bounty.

Speaker 15 Now keep in mind,

Speaker 15 every defensive coordinator within the realms of

Speaker 15 legality would love to get the starting porter back out.

Speaker 15 But in saying that, you know,

Speaker 15 not purposely going after his leg or, you know,

Speaker 15 a clean hit, we take the quarter back out, we got a much better chance to win. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that that

Speaker 15 makes sense.

Speaker 15 So with Greg Williams, I mean, I've known Greg a long time, known his defensive philosophy, and he's a blitz guy.

Speaker 15 He's a no rhyme or reason coach. And what I mean by that is most,

Speaker 15 99.9% of the coordinators in the league, whether they be offense or defense,

Speaker 15 they have tendencies and that's what you study week in and week out.

Speaker 15 So third and three to six is broken down into its own category and coaches have their tendency they have 33 blitz on that they play versus a three receiver side they may play a certain zone so you you you know you play the odds with greg williams there is no odds

Speaker 15 And that makes it difficult in itself to prepare because there's no rhyme or reason why you do, you know, if you if you blitz this guy, then they have to play this coverage behind it.

Speaker 15 That's not the case with Greg.

Speaker 21 He'll roll the dice.

Speaker 15 And so that makes it much more difficult to prepare. So I wasn't really surprised at the looks that I was getting.

Speaker 15 What I was surprised, and I'll give you an example, Darren Sharper, who was a friend of mine and a teammate for about seven years in Green Bay, I thought he was an extremely talented safety.

Speaker 15 He could cover the field like no other, but he wasn't a hitter.

Speaker 15 He was a good tackler, but he wasn't a big hitter like a Ronnie Locke. Well, in that game against us, in that championship game, he had two.

Speaker 15 One they called, the one they didn't call that was actually worse,

Speaker 15 unsportsmanlike on the quarterback,

Speaker 15 where he went after my head with his helmet, the crown of his helmet. And it was way late.
I'd thrown the ball already.

Speaker 15 And I thought to myself, now, why would Sharper, who's not that type of player, go over and beyond when he didn't need to. And I actually completed both passes.

Speaker 15 And it was two of the better passes I had in the game.

Speaker 15 It was that type of game. It was, it was, I think they called like five roughing the quarterback,

Speaker 15 but they should have called like 12.

Speaker 16 Yeah, that's a strategy in itself. It's like, make them call it every time because they're not.
So we're going to get away with some of the times that we do it.

Speaker 15 I don't hate Greg Williams. It is what it is.
We've still had a chance to win the game with all that in mind.

Speaker 15 And when I think about that game, not for a second do I think about how they played against me. It's more what I didn't do at the end of the game.

Speaker 15 Greg Williams included, the defense included, I still had a chance to make a play to give us a chance to win, and I didn't make it. And that's what I think about in that game.

Speaker 45 So you talk about defense and a defensive scheme.

Speaker 31 I think, you know, the part that everyone loved about Brett Favre, the player, was that there was a feeling that you were improvising a lot of the times, drawing stuff up in the huddle.

Speaker 50 How much of that was true?

Speaker 20 Because I know the classic story where you asked, you didn't know what a nickel defense was until your second year.

Speaker 2 So, how much of it was really Brett Favre just being like, all right, you run this route, you run that route, let's just go

Speaker 15 very little in regards to drawing one up in the dirt from an initial play.

Speaker 15 Now, breaking the pocket, scrambling around, extending plays,

Speaker 15 hitting a guy, like one of the greatest passes I've ever had,

Speaker 15 if not the

Speaker 15 greatest

Speaker 15 or maybe fondest, was my first playoff experience at Detroit. The week before we played at Detroit to end the season, the winner of that game got to play.

Speaker 15 We were playing them in the playoffs the first round, regardless. We knew that.
Had we lost, we had to come right back the following week into the same environment.

Speaker 15 And there was no reason to think if we lost that we could come back back and play much better the following week at Detroit and win it. Late in the game, it was a two-minute drill.

Speaker 15 And I called double square out. I had Sterling on the right, and I'm not even sure who I had on the left.
And I ended up scrambling to my left.

Speaker 15 I think kind of knowing your limitations at that time, I didn't think I had any.

Speaker 15 you know, kind of a naive sense

Speaker 15 at that age. And just

Speaker 15 Sterling had a square out. He didn't have a go.
And I extended the play. And the one thing that coaches always preach to young quarterbacks is don't throw it late down the middle.

Speaker 15 Don't throw it across your body, across the field. And that's what I did and hit Sterling for a touchdown.
So that was the ad lib

Speaker 15 from an extended play.

Speaker 67 So you made headlines a couple of weeks ago talking about Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 39 I wanted to ask a follow-up to that.

Speaker 41 So

Speaker 4 do you think that it was like maybe a little hypocritical asking about Deshaun or saying Deshaun Watson should kind of just play with the Texans right now, not demand a trade?

Speaker 45 When you had similar points in your career where you wanted the organization to do something, whether it be, you know, let you go wherever you wanted when you were done with the Packers or maybe not get to training camp.

Speaker 34 Do you think that players should maybe get a little more say in today's NFL on player movement if they have been lied to by the organization and they feel like it's uh you know a relationship that can't be fixed.

Speaker 15 Yeah, well, I'll say this. I think it's a different, the league looks different today.

Speaker 15 How they play is different, uh, how they practice is different. The legality, you know, how many times can you practice in pads?

Speaker 15 I mean, when I was with Atlanta my first year, we never went without pads. Yeah,

Speaker 15 and I was a backup quarterback, and backup quarterbacks today are not live in practice. I mean,

Speaker 15 that's a joke to even think that. I was live.

Speaker 15 Jerry Glanville wanted them to kill me.

Speaker 15 So it's a different, it's a different game. You know, my situation,

Speaker 15 regardless of what people may think, I didn't demand a trade. I didn't demand where I went wrong in the only place I went wrong was retiring.
or saying I was retiring in April.

Speaker 15 But there's reasons for that. When I decided I wanted to play again, why would I want to play anywhere else other than the fact that I knew that I wasn't welcome back in Green Bay?

Speaker 15 Not by the fans

Speaker 15 and some teammates, but by the organization. So

Speaker 15 from that aspect, it's a little bit different. But I don't think a player should be able to

Speaker 15 demand

Speaker 15 who they want interviewed or what players they want to pick up or let go. You know, I think that crosses the line.
I mean,

Speaker 15 you think about it with you guys, you go to you, you've been a team for, you know, just say 10 years and one's thinking about leaving

Speaker 15 and the one who's staying says, well, I want this guy to come in.

Speaker 15 And the boss says, I'm going to interview who I want to interview. And if you don't like it, you can hit the road.
I think that the guys in the league make tons of money.

Speaker 15 I'm not saying that that's right or wrong. It is what it is.
And 20 years from now, we're going to be laughing at the salaries that I made

Speaker 15 and the guys before me made.

Speaker 32 And

Speaker 15 it's going to be astronomical, just like it is now, but it's going to continue to go up.

Speaker 15 That's a given. But I just don't think that it's right for a player to be upset and demand a trade because they didn't interview someone he wanted to interview.

Speaker 16 So I think it goes a little bit deeper than that with the Texans organization in particular, where obviously Deshaun Watson is a top, I think he's a top five quarterback in the NFL right now.

Speaker 16 He's a generational talent.

Speaker 15 He's definitely a top five with the young, which there's some very talented young group of quarterbacks, and he's right there in the midst.

Speaker 36 Yeah, so

Speaker 16 I think with a guy like that, if he is the centerpiece of your organization,

Speaker 16 and the front office told him, like, we want to make you a building block of this team. We want to get your feedback on things.

Speaker 16 We want to build this new franchise around you as we're transitioning from Bill O'Brien. We're bringing in an entire new front office, new head coach.
We want your input on that.

Speaker 16 And then he gave his input, and then they ignored his input, and then things kind of came to like a, I don't know all the details that happened after that.

Speaker 16 They're apparently, it's been building for like the last three or four years.

Speaker 16 I feel like in today's NFL, if you have a talent like that and you're an owner, You should know that you need to make that player happy if you want to maximize your chances of that guy winning a Super Bowl for your team in the long run.

Speaker 16 Because if it's an icy relationship, that goes both ways. The ownership has to take some responsibility for that too.

Speaker 16 So I'm sure you experienced, you probably butted heads with ownership in your career as well. And you probably found that

Speaker 16 the most conducive environment for winning football would be when your star player and your ownership and your head coach are all at least on the same page and

Speaker 16 kind of communicating effectively, whether it's an idea that you have for an offense or, hey, maybe we should interview this guy.

Speaker 15 Well, let me go back to what you just mentioned about Deshaun Watson. When I made those comments, I also said, I don't know all the details.

Speaker 39 I don't think anybody does.

Speaker 15 And honestly, in fairness to Deshaun or anyone in that situation,

Speaker 15 It's probably best that I didn't make the comments I made. I made them specifically based on

Speaker 15 the fact that,

Speaker 15 again, not knowing

Speaker 15 the details, which I think obviously is very important.

Speaker 15 So I'm wrong in

Speaker 15 respects to making comments without knowing the facts.

Speaker 15 But

Speaker 15 if the organization,

Speaker 15 because what I was going to say before you made those comments,

Speaker 15 if they ask his advice, it's a different story. Then you're including him in the conversation, whether or not you,

Speaker 15 maybe the organization asked his advice just to make him think that

Speaker 15 he's involved.

Speaker 15 Fair or not,

Speaker 15 that's their choosing. But if they say, you know, if Deshaun went to them,

Speaker 15 they never went to him in particular, and he says, look, why don't you interview this guy or that guy? And they say, we appreciate

Speaker 15 your advice, but

Speaker 15 we got this handled. That's their right.

Speaker 15 But if they ask his advice or ask him to be involved in any shape or form and then ignore him,

Speaker 15 then I can see where there's a problem.

Speaker 15 Is that enough of a problem to demand the trade?

Speaker 15 I don't, you know,

Speaker 15 that never happened to me. I got a lot of feedback when JJ Watt asked for his release.
I think that why don't I comment on that? Well, JJ's situation is different. Deshaun, as you said,

Speaker 15 had become the face and the franchise leader. JJ Watt was kind of

Speaker 15 the elder statesman. Not that he's not a leader, because I think he certainly was, but I think both sides had run their course there.

Speaker 15 I think we all can agree with that.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 he wanted to try his hand somewhere else, and I think that they were willing to do that, and they mutually parted.

Speaker 15 Deshaun's situation, he is the face of that franchise. I agree.
I think he's one of the great young quarterbacks in the league and there's no reason to think that he won't

Speaker 15 shatter records and win a championship, if not more than one,

Speaker 15 whether it be there or somewhere else. I just,

Speaker 15 you know,

Speaker 15 my whole deal is

Speaker 15 if you demand a trade because they didn't listen to your input when they didn't ask for it. I don't want to say that that's wrong or right, but again, in today's game, it's different.
You know,

Speaker 15 who's to say what's right or wrong? But I don't know the facts. So it's really unfair for me

Speaker 15 to say one way or the other.

Speaker 45 Don't you think, though, that the players having more say and fans actually taking players' sides is a good thing for,

Speaker 63 you know, like it feels like the transformation in the league, right?

Speaker 34 So for example, a Javon Walker situation where, you know, Javon wanted to sit out, and you had comments on that back when it happened.

Speaker 31 He came back, he tore his ACL.

Speaker 63 Now, guys, when they say they want to sit out, I think most fans are like, yeah, they should.

Speaker 20 If they don't get the money they deserve, they should sit out because they're risking a very short career, a very short earning potential for non-guaranteed money.

Speaker 4 So I think that the conversation is interesting, and it's also just, it's good that we're here where people actually are like, hey, Deshaun kind of can call his shots.

Speaker 15 well i mean they both hold the cards right and to take it even further uh he says he's not playing there

Speaker 15 they say they're not budging how will that play itself out remains to be seen but say they trading um i know like in my situation uh

Speaker 15 with the packers

Speaker 15 And I bring this up because it could happen to Sean.

Speaker 15 You never know. But I had to go to Green Bay in order to get something accomplished

Speaker 15 to start a training camp that year that I was traded to the Jets.

Speaker 15 So I went up, me and my wife and my agent, and I met with Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson. It was an okay meeting.

Speaker 15 I went back to my house in Green Bay that same day that I arrived.

Speaker 15 and told Bus, my agent, and my wife, what had transpired. And according to the Packers, then I was, there was two teams that were interested in a trade.

Speaker 15 Were there more? I don't know. This is what I was told.
And that was the Jets and the Buccaneers. You know, you choose.
So I,

Speaker 15 when I left Green Bay, we flew back home that same evening.

Speaker 15 I had Bus tell

Speaker 15 the management with the Packers that I was going to go to the Buccaneers. And the reason that I chose the Buccaneers was Gruden, I knew very well.
He was, we were together in Green Bay

Speaker 15 initially.

Speaker 15 And the offense was the same. So I didn't have to learn a new offense.
And also, which was important to me,

Speaker 15 we were going to stay in the same conference. I learned to compete against the Packers in the same division or conference.

Speaker 15 And they played each other, I think it was the third or fourth game that year. So it made sense.
So I said, we're gonna fly home

Speaker 15 bus told him that said we're gonna fly home we're gonna talk about it on the way home but that's where he's he's looking to go

Speaker 15 by the time we flew home i got to my house i was traded to the jets i could have vetoed it bus said you know what

Speaker 15 if you veto it and say you're not going there people are going to say well what in the heck does he want to do so they kind of beat me to the punch they tightened their grip on me in other words uh

Speaker 15 You know, so I mean, that ultimately could happen to Deshaun, that he ends up at a team that he doesn't want to end up with. I wish him well.

Speaker 15 I think he's a great young talent, and we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 16 Yeah, so during those years that your career was a little bit in flux in the various offseasons, my favorite part was the relationship that you developed from afar with Ed Werder, where they would just send Ed down to your house, have him camp out at the end of your road.

Speaker 16 I never knew if it was like an adversarial relationship between you and ed or if it was like a worthy opponent where you'd you know maybe bring him lemonade if it was too hot when he's standing out there at the end of the driveway or if you guys were good friends but it seemed like three summers in a row ed worder lived at your house yeah

Speaker 15 let me get this clear i did not invite ed down

Speaker 15 we we sort of grew because of year-in, year-out sagas that went on for several years. We've all had those relationships where you go, I don't know how it happened, but we became friends.

Speaker 15 And we had a lot to talk about. Most of it was sort of the same topic over and over again.
But yeah, every time I think you turned the sprinklers on on me, you know, he would accuse me.

Speaker 15 I said, no, they're on a timer, Eric.

Speaker 21 Yeah. They're on a timer.

Speaker 15 I mean, you just happened to be standing in my grass when they came on. Still to this day, we haven't chuckle about it.

Speaker 15 Believe me, I could have done without, it was hard enough to make a decision when I had to find a different way out of my property to avoid the press.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 45 What was your favorite prank that you pulled on a teammate or your go-to?

Speaker 45 Because I think that's, you know, part of the Brett Farr of Legend is that you were a guy who didn't take himself too seriously and always had fun playing the game, which I think most fans do appreciate that, you know, you're playing a game and it's fun.

Speaker 34 So what was your go-to prank or the one that you look back and you're like, yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 30 Like, I'm proud of myself for that one.

Speaker 15 Boy, there's a bunch and I'm probably leaving out probably a better one. I think being in Green Bay, when you think Green Bay, you think cold.

Speaker 15 You know, Green Bay didn't get a lot of snow, but during the season, we got not during the game, but one week we got a lot of snow, but then right after we got bitter cold, where like the high was like negative one, you know, like on a Thursday.

Speaker 15 You know, and we would practice indoors though. But the thing about Green Bay is Lambofield, Field, the locker rooms that you dress in for games, you also dress for practice.
Some teams are different.

Speaker 15 They have a workout facility separate. They had a fenced-in parking lot right there by the locker room, no problem.

Speaker 15 But for practice, you had to go down to what's where the practice fields and the Hudson Center, which is the indoor facility, are located.

Speaker 15 It's at the end of the parking lot. It's one below.
It's definitely too cold to walk.

Speaker 15 You know, it's probably a little more than a quarter of a mile from where you park generally to where, and they had a parking area for the Hudson Center.

Speaker 15 Frank Winters was my center and best friend and roommate. And we'd always goof off and everybody was playing jokes on each other.
But I took Frank's car

Speaker 15 before practice started. So like I had a meeting.
at say nine o'clock and when i got a break i had someone the equipment guys follow me.

Speaker 15 I took Frank's car down to the end of the parking lot, left it running with the AC wide open

Speaker 15 in one degree high temperatures. And

Speaker 15 we didn't go to practice until like 1250. I think practice started at one.
So you can imagine when he found the car, first of all, when he found it, because he's like, where's my car?

Speaker 15 And, but, you know, there was this one long car

Speaker 32 down

Speaker 15 running.

Speaker 15 I don't even want to know what the temperature was in that car and we did that several times with different guys you know guys started locking their car and they gated fit but we'd dig in their pockets and you know

Speaker 61 the old cold car yeah yeah i like that one i like that one i also read one where you you uh i don't know if it was a stink bomb or something with john madden when you when he came to interview you before a game and like you almost almost killed him yeah brett farvin john madden and fake farts is kind of like that's the pinnacle of football guy humor.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I just told that story to someone a couple of nights ago. We got on the subject of John Madden and they asked me if he was still living and I said, yes, he is.
He's getting up there in age.

Speaker 15 And they said, boy, he sure liked you. He did.

Speaker 15 I don't know where the fondness came from. He did a lot of my games, but I know that our production meetings the day before the game was always,

Speaker 15 it was fun. It was, it hardly had football

Speaker 15 at all involved in the conversation. We just talked about stuff, tons of those meetings.
You can imagine all the games we did.

Speaker 15 Yeah, this one particular time, I kind of, this one particular year, I got kind of got on the stink bomb. You know, it look kind of looks like an ammonia cap

Speaker 15 that you that you break and and it's got a terrible odor of rotten eggs and and it's made of sulfur.

Speaker 15 And I found all this out after the fact.

Speaker 15 I just knew they stunk and I thought it'd be a cool joke to just slip it under the table, step on it, and then watch everyone kind of cringe and part of the reason that i i picked that in a setting was lee remmel was our head of pr well lee remel had been with the packers for over 50 years and at the time was probably in his 70s so he was getting up in age still sharp but he had a tendency in those production meetings to fall asleep so i was going to really kind of play a joke on lee

Speaker 15 but with the whole group. So

Speaker 15 I figured when I busted the ammonia cap and the odor got terrible that someone would think that Leaf farted into sleep.

Speaker 15 And that may have been true.

Speaker 15 Had it not been for John Madden as I ease it under the table, step on it, no one has a clue within seconds. I mean, it reeked of just rotten eggs.

Speaker 15 But John Madden was not the reaction I was thinking.

Speaker 15 And Jeff Blum and Mark Schieffelbein, when they were with us, they were the younger PR guys, same age as me, and they encouraged me not to do it before I went in.

Speaker 15 Just,

Speaker 15 I don't know exactly why, because none of us could foresee what was going to happen. So John starts kind of choking a little bit, and he starts turning red.
Now you can sense with each second.

Speaker 15 It's getting worse and worse to a point where this is not funny anymore.

Speaker 15 And he kind of puts his hand up around his chest and his throat long story short they take him out of the room come to find out he's allergic to sulfur

Speaker 39 he almost killed john madden but he probably almost killed john madden he probably laughed about that afterwards i was gonna say so every game after that

Speaker 15 we walk into production meetings like oh you don't have no

Speaker 39 sulfur uh bombs

Speaker 16 i don't i'm sorry who's allergic to sulfur that's something you could not you couldn't have drawn that up ahead of time. There's no way to know that.

Speaker 15 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 16 So I did listen to your podcast, and I know that you're a Jeopardy fan. I know you watch Jeopardy.

Speaker 16 Are you going to watch when Aaron Rodgers hosts it?

Speaker 15 If I'm not busy, I'll at least take it. I think he'll do a great job.

Speaker 15 He's very well-spoken and calm, cool, and collective. He'll do a wonderful job.
Now, will he be an Alex Trebek? I don't know if there ever will be another Alex Trebek, but

Speaker 15 I'm sure that they'll get

Speaker 15 great ratings for that show.

Speaker 16 Yeah. So back to your time in Green Bay, you played for Mike McCarthy for a little bit.

Speaker 16 He became a legend on this show last year when he went to Dallas and he would smash watermelons before select games to amp his team up. He would just like have a watermelon brought in.

Speaker 39 Sound like Gallagher.

Speaker 9 Remember Gallagher? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Gallagher sales.

Speaker 28 He lost every bet when Mike McCarthy smashed a watermelon.

Speaker 16 People don't talk about Gallagher enough anymore. I'm glad you remember that.
But did Mike ever do anything like that?

Speaker 16 What was his like craziest motivational technique when you were with him in Green Bay?

Speaker 15 He was just a status quo coach.

Speaker 15 And I don't mean that in the negative. He's from Pittsburgh.
He's kind of, you know, those guys from Pittsburgh, if you didn't know any better, you'd think they're from New York.

Speaker 15 You know, hey, hey, you know, kind of loud, boisterous.

Speaker 15 That was Mike McCarthy. You know, you're getting ready to go out.
and fight a heavyweight bout

Speaker 15 he was giving that speech before you went out there um but he never

Speaker 15 brought in props that I remember.

Speaker 70 Would he send you, would he have you guys stay at worse hotels if you started sucking?

Speaker 64 Because I think I've heard that story that the hotels would get worse and worse on the road.

Speaker 16 I think John Coon told us that.

Speaker 70 Yeah, they would get worse and worse on the road depending on how the team was doing.

Speaker 15 No, that never happened with any coach

Speaker 15 in my 20 years.

Speaker 51 Okay, we're going to delete that part because we want to have John Coon's story be real.

Speaker 16 Well, also because he was putting Brett Favre up in the good hotels. Meanwhile, the fullbacks were staying down the street in the hotel.

Speaker 9 I don't know where the team stayed.

Speaker 15 I just know where I stayed. Yeah, right.

Speaker 18 I don't know where they were.

Speaker 63 What was your favorite Andy Reid story? Andy Reid is obviously a legend, and he was, you know, one of your coaches.

Speaker 47 Actually, let me ask this.

Speaker 45 Did you know at the time in the 90s, when you looked at the coaching staff, you're like, man, these guys are really, really good, and there's going to be some head coaches here because it is crazy to look back and be like, you know, Andy Reid, John Gruden, Mariuchi, Dick Duron was on the staff one year.

Speaker 34 Like, all those guys end up being head coaches.

Speaker 39 Doug Peterson, Doug Peterson, yeah, like was the quarterback.

Speaker 59 Did you have that moment where you were like, whoa, this is kind of crazy.

Speaker 70 Like, I think that we have such a great coaching staff here.

Speaker 15 I think

Speaker 15 five guys off of that staff, whether it be initial staff or a replacement for one who left for the head coaching job, five of those guys became head coaches. You mentioned Dick Tron,

Speaker 15 head coach at Chicago.

Speaker 21 Unfortunately, yeah.

Speaker 15 Luke, Marty Morningwick, Ray Rhodes, and other coaches went on to be successful as well.

Speaker 31 But no,

Speaker 15 I think, you know, when you're 22, even though I thought I knew it all then, as I look back, you don't think about things like that you would think about, how you would think about them later in your career or life.

Speaker 15 I knew we had good coaches. I didn't know a good team from a bad team when I became the the starter in Green Bay.

Speaker 15 I thought I did. For me, my success early was not because I was schooled and was up to speed on all the ins and outs of passing games and nickels and dimes, defenses, and all that stuff.

Speaker 15 The secret to my success early was being naive

Speaker 15 and

Speaker 15 not knowing.

Speaker 15 how good or how bad the opponent was or not knowing how good or how bad we were or not knowing that maybe being risky on a play and rolling to my left and throwing all the way back to the right can get you fired.

Speaker 15 I just thought that was fun.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 16 It actually reminds me a lot of one of our favorite quarterbacks on this show, Jameis Winston. He's a guy that he takes a lot of chances.

Speaker 16 He makes some head-scratching throws, but he also, he has the ability to throw a touchdown from almost anywhere on the field. And he's exciting to watch.

Speaker 16 Have you gotten the chance to watch him play? And does any of his play remind you of yourself?

Speaker 15 Well, I saw his his one play this year.

Speaker 21 It was pretty good. Yep.

Speaker 16 It was a touchdown.

Speaker 46 Perfect rating.

Speaker 15 You know, I haven't seen a lot of him. I probably saw more of him when I think about Jameis Winston.
I think about college.

Speaker 15 And he was a winner.

Speaker 15 He's not going to scramble like Lamar Jackson, but he's got a wonderful arm. When you have something like that, it's like unbelievable jumping ability, but maybe an okay shooter.

Speaker 15 You're going to have fantastic dunks that's going to put you on the ESPN all the time.

Speaker 15 But at the end,

Speaker 15 the telltale stats are a little bit different than the dunks. And that's kind of the way I look with Jameis Winston.
If he could have a harness that,

Speaker 15 and I was able to harness it pretty good based on how I first entered the league, everything to me was a hell mary.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 it didn't need to be. You know, the check down's okay, Brett.
In fact, please throw the check down. If it was third and 20, my first three, four years, I was throwing it 20 or 21, if not further.

Speaker 15 Every time.

Speaker 64 It's interesting because I actually, I'm happy you said that because I do think there is, I always joke about the quarterbacks that are,

Speaker 34 they don't really understand that they should, what they're doing is wrong.

Speaker 7 Those are the dangerous quarterbacks.

Speaker 30 So like, it sounds like that's what you're saying when you were younger.

Speaker 47 I also always have the theory that not every interception is bad in that a guy who, you know, when you say gunslinger, you think Brett Favre.

Speaker 66 And a quarterback taking risks isn't always a bad thing.

Speaker 34 It's the guys who, you know, when you look at at the end of the year and a guy has no interceptions, it's like, well, he didn't take any risks.

Speaker 54 It was all check downs.

Speaker 67 He never actually took a shot.

Speaker 54 And that's easier to defend than a guy who's going to take those risks and try to throw it into spots where maybe sometimes he shouldn't have thrown that.

Speaker 15 Well, I'll give you an example. We played the Rams in the playoffs in St.
Louis. And I think that year we were like.
Maybe eight and eight. It was Mike Sherman was the head coach.

Speaker 15 We may have been nine and seven. We could possibly have been 10 and six, but I don't think so.
So we were okay.

Speaker 15 We were playing the greatest show on turf, and they were. And I mean, they were putting up 40 on everybody.
And there's no reason to think that they're not going to put up 40 on us.

Speaker 15 And so the game sort of went like I thought it was. They got the ball, they scored.
We got the ball, we moved it, punt. They got the ball, they scored.
So you get, you, you, you catch on here.

Speaker 15 So at some point, I went, they'll give me the underneath stuff all day long, but we're going to lose. Even if I take chances and come out on top, you know, on risky throws, we still may lose the game.

Speaker 15 I wasn't the smartest guy from the start of my career to the end of my career by no means, but I was smart enough to know if I don't take chances, I may complete 60 passes, but we're going to lose by 30.

Speaker 15 So I started taking chances and They were up the whole game. Their go-to was Tampa two, rush with four, not give any windows to throw it in, going against that type of scheme.
You have to be patient.

Speaker 15 You have to be willing to go 16 plays and grind it out to get a score. You know, going 16 plays and scored is hard enough.
So I ended up throwing six picks in the game.

Speaker 32 And

Speaker 15 really the last one, but the last two, they were up like 21. The game is over.
My chairman said,

Speaker 15 hey, man, I think I'm going to take you out. I mean, he wasn't pulling me to put someone in to win the game.
It was over.

Speaker 15 And I said to him,

Speaker 15 just as clear and honest as possible, I said, if you leave me in, I can break a record. Oh, really? Six picks, I think, will tie the pack of record or NFL.

Speaker 15 And I don't know if that was true, but it sounded pretty cool to me. Like, if I got six, you know, I fall in the record books one way or another.

Speaker 16 What's the difference between five and six? Yeah, six sounds a lot cooler.

Speaker 15 And the last pick, actually, I said, you know what? I'm just going to take it. I'm going to check it down.

Speaker 15 And I had a bat who's running like a little angle route up the middle of the field.

Speaker 15 And I just, he was going to catch it and get about 12, maybe break a tackle and get a few more yards, 50 seconds left in the game or something.

Speaker 15 And he gets tipped by one of the linemen who doesn't rush. And guess what? Picked.
And I'm like, hell, even when I do the right thing.

Speaker 16 Do you have a favorite interception that you ever threw?

Speaker 15 There's no question, my favorite interception. And I can't believe I'm going to call it my favorite inexception.
But a lot of things

Speaker 15 happened on this play.

Speaker 15 Kind of like my first completion was to myself. Yep.
I can say that I had a lot of fun playing, and it doesn't necessarily have to be wins and touchdowns. So we're playing the Giants,

Speaker 15 my first year as a starter in Green Bay. We're playing them in the Meadowlands.

Speaker 15 They still have several of their guys from the glory days, Lawrence Taylor, Pepper Johnson, but they were, you know, they were getting up in the years, but it was a back and forth game.

Speaker 15 Late in the game, it's pretty chilly at Meadowlands, but not terribly cold.

Speaker 15 So we run that an angle route like I was just, the one I was just telling you about, we called it Texas, 22 Texas. And so the fullback comes in and

Speaker 15 We had a little change up on this play. So we added 22 Texas halfback bursts.
So I was going to pump fake

Speaker 15 the fullback and the backside back kind of did the same route, but came underneath. And so we're trying to get the backers to converge on the first guy and slip the other guy underneath.

Speaker 15 It usually was a good play.

Speaker 15 Well, Pepper Johnson looked as though he was covering the first guy and then fell off at the last second. I probably.

Speaker 15 Should have known better with an old crafty depth, but it wasn't like the worst decision I ever made. And it hits him right in the numbers.

Speaker 15 So I'm young, energetic, full of piss and vinegar at this time in my career. He picks it off and he's kind of maneuvering around.

Speaker 15 And I'm kind of like the first and last line of defense because it wasn't a deep pass. And so he's dodging and weaving a couple linemen.
And I get right close to him to make the tackle.

Speaker 15 And he kind of turns and looks to his right. And I think he's going to pitch it to one of his guys.
So I jump, dive for the ball, ball, and he doesn't pitch it. So I look like a complete idiot.

Speaker 15 Like, what are you doing? When I realize he doesn't pitch it, I can remember, even though it was a long time ago, I was thinking to myself, you're digging yourself in a deeper hole.

Speaker 15 So I get up, come up from behind,

Speaker 15 catch him, punch the ball out, create a fumble, and recover it all at the same time.

Speaker 15 I'm willing to bet the farm that I am the only person to throw an interception, miss a tackle, cause a fumble, and recover it all in the same play.

Speaker 39 We'll look into that. That's a full day.

Speaker 16 Can you look that up? That's like the Jimmy V speech. If you can laugh, cry, come on.

Speaker 16 Day, you did it all. Yeah.

Speaker 15 But the tragic news is the very next play, I throw a pick, and the guy returns it for a touchdown.

Speaker 50 I'm actually watching it right now.

Speaker 59 It's a hilarious play because he's like spinning around, and you just got totally deeked out, and then you come back and get the fumble.

Speaker 9 So you're like,

Speaker 15 that is, that would be my favorite interception too because it is a hilarious hilarious play so the next play i throw a pick the guy and i have a chance to make the tackle on the sidelines the guy returns it and he jukes me and ty denter was was my backup quarterback and and great friend and it was funny he was so funny i make i missed the tackle on the sidelines the guy scores the game's over i go sit down on the bench and it was probably 30 32 degrees then that day and i'm sitting on the bench got my helmet on so Ty is laughing at me, sitting right next to me, and he's laughing.

Speaker 15 And I thought it was kind of an odd time to be laughing, but that was Ty. I said, what's so funny?

Speaker 15 He says, that big snot that's frozen down the side of your face that came out of my nose and it frozen solid on the side of my face. And I said, gee, thanks, Ty.

Speaker 45 Yeah, that's a nice insult to injury. All right.

Speaker 54 So my last question.

Speaker 67 Can you actually tell the Ty Det Merck nickel

Speaker 30 defense story?

Speaker 22 That would be my last question. I just, it's a true story.

Speaker 15 That's a true story.

Speaker 9 It's a great story.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Ty, typical tie fashion, you know, sarcastic, very bright mind. Football, he had football intelligence out this world.
Keep in mind, he wasn't a Heisman. He threw 120 touchdowns in college.

Speaker 15 He knew the passing offense better than anyone. And here I am, the starter, but don't know anything, but acting like I know it all.

Speaker 15 You know, I'd hear him say in meetings all the time, well, they bring a nickel in, dime in.

Speaker 15 And I thought to myself, I don't, I couldn't see what the difference was really. So that's why I really never asked.
And it didn't bother me a whole lot.

Speaker 15 But he just ate at me and ate at me till finally I said, I got to ask. So I said, Ty, you know, I hear them talk about bringing nickel in and dime and all that stuff.
I mean, what is it?

Speaker 15 I mean, what am I not getting? And he goes, well, it's when they take out a linebacker and bring in a DB. And I said, that's it.

Speaker 15 That's they're making a big deal about nickels in, nickels in, nickels in.

Speaker 15 And he said, that's it. I go, who gives a damn?

Speaker 15 No wonder I had success against nickel defense.

Speaker 16 So, what did what did you think it was called? Did you have a name for it? Were you just like to bring the small guy out there?

Speaker 72 I didn't care.

Speaker 21 It's 11 on 11.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 15 You know, and I found throughout my career and even before then in college, don't judge a book by its cover.

Speaker 15 So, so what if they're bringing taking a 250-pound linebacker out and bringing in 190-pound defensive back. He may be a better tackler than the 250-pound guy.

Speaker 15 I never cared. There were some things in meetings that I didn't pay attention to, and that was one of them.

Speaker 54 I love it. All right, so my last question: it's the Rowback question.

Speaker 4 Use code pmt on rowback.com for 20% off your first purchase, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com.

Speaker 61 And for our guests today, we'd like to gift you a Rowback performance Q-zip on us.

Speaker 51 So we're going to send you one.

Speaker 2 Do you think that it's maybe a little much at this point, like the Packers having back-to-back MVP

Speaker 24 and Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

Speaker 45 Can you give us a break?

Speaker 72 I'm done with it.

Speaker 69 I hated you your entire career.

Speaker 45 Like Rodgers is the same shit.

Speaker 61 Do you think maybe it's time to stop and let's have like a shitty quarterback go to Green Bay?

Speaker 15 I think that you guys need to do all you can to lure Aaron to come play with you guys.

Speaker 15 You said before when we were about to start and you're like, you know, it's less about the Packers, more about the the bears and it's true like it's the bears getting in their own way consistently throughout the years now i'll say this as we speak i think there's there's an outside chance that russell wilson could go there yeah yeah it's a team that would be that would be a huge pickup yeah i don't know if that would happen i don't know if that they would they would be willing to let him go i could see like a three-team that would change the dynamics big time hey he would he'd be the best quarterback in in chicago bear history instantly I don't know.

Speaker 15 McMahon was pretty good. So was Sid Luckman, right?

Speaker 47 Yeah, Sid Luckman has all the records and Cutler.

Speaker 49 Cutler was a bus cook guy as well.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 15 You know, the Bears,

Speaker 15 their best teams, when you think about it, they had an unbelievable running game and stellar defense.

Speaker 15 McMahon was, you know, statistically speaking, wasn't, he was the grout, if you will. He held everybody together, wasn't, you know, wowing with with you statistically, but he was jumping over guys.

Speaker 15 He was getting, he was running. I mean, he was in the trenches.

Speaker 15 And I'm not saying that you need to get a guy like that. You got to get a winner.
It just has to fall in place. Yeah.
And when it happens, it happens and you'll know it.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And that's kind of your career.

Speaker 8 I mean, getting traded to Green Bay after draft.

Speaker 21 Who'd have thought?

Speaker 26 Who would have thought?

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 that may be what it is with the Bears.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 38 We need a who would have thought guy.

Speaker 53 That's

Speaker 39 next year. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 63 Well, brett thank you everyone go listen to uh bowling with uh fav

Speaker 15 uh it is on podcast one you can find it we appreciate you joining us and uh yeah it was a lot of fun yeah thanks man best of luck with the podcast thank you appreciate it you guys have a great day all right see you too

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Speaker 6 All right, breaking news.

Speaker 4 The Bears are doing a press conference right now, and Ryan Pace actually said that he has not ruled out bringing back Mr.

Speaker 6 Brisket. Let's go.

Speaker 9 Let's go. Yeah.

Speaker 39 Fuck it.

Speaker 16 Is that the sixth-year bump?

Speaker 8 Fuck it. I don't care.
No, it's fifth-year.

Speaker 16 Fifth-year bump. Fuck it.

Speaker 55 The pre-bump. I do not care.

Speaker 33 Whatever.

Speaker 16 I mean, has he said it's an open competition?

Speaker 39 I'd rather him than Nick Foles. Let's say that much.

Speaker 16 No Russian spot is guaranteed this offset. I always love it when really shitty teams say that.
Like, no one's got a spot. We're all playing for an open spot.
Well, yeah, you should.

Speaker 16 You went 2-14 last year. Yep.

Speaker 67 All right, so we have a couple segments.

Speaker 8 First up, we have King State Kings, Dan Campbell, when talking about who makes the final decisions.

Speaker 55 He or his GM, he says, a true alpha knows when it's time to concede.

Speaker 54 Yes. That's the greatest quote of all time because

Speaker 35 he's just admitting that he might concede, but you're really conceding.

Speaker 67 Yeah. Because you're accepting the concession.

Speaker 16 Yeah, if you accept the concession, then

Speaker 16 you took an order from the guy being like, you will, I'm going to alpha you without you knowing it. It's Sun Tzu shit.

Speaker 16 This is Art of War, which I actually believe that we should read Art of War on this podcast. Art of the Deal.

Speaker 68 I've already read it.

Speaker 16 Art of War is...

Speaker 16 It's an all-time book for people that want to sound like they're smart. This is actually, it is Sun Tzu stuff.
This is a Sun Tzu quote. You ready for this?

Speaker 10 No Bell check.

Speaker 16 Yeah, exactly. He says, all warfare is based on deception.
Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable. When using our forces, we must appear inactive.

Speaker 16 And when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away. In other words, he's saying, let them think that they're winning.
Yep. So it's the most alpha thing ever to make, you know what?

Speaker 16 He might even be going a step further.

Speaker 16 He might even be doing this to make his GM think that he's the alpha, but meanwhile, Dan Campbell knows exactly the alpha is actually on this side of the table i want him to think that he's stronger well that part's out the window because he said it out loud that's true he did say i'm a true alpha because i'm letting him make the decisions but it's still a great quote he is saying if you if you need to know a prospect's hand size go talk to the gm if you want to know how his kneecap tastes talk to me

Speaker 27 um all right my i also had to save metrics before we get to uh guys on chicks uh did you see this jake nate oates who actually Look at this synergy is going to be on Bench Mob.

Speaker 39 Yes. Have you already taped it?

Speaker 33 Tomorrow, Wednesday, so no one sinks anything.

Speaker 74 So I just saw an article a minute ago.

Speaker 33 About the point.

Speaker 59 Yeah, so you'll like this PFT.

Speaker 70 In the Alabama practice facility, they have

Speaker 6 four different lines.

Speaker 35 It's one point is for a mid-range long two,

Speaker 46 two points for anything at the rim,

Speaker 6 three points for a college three, and four points for a Steph slash Damian Lillard kind of area.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 35 So he's basically teaching them or getting it out of them to stop stop shooting mid-range shoots.

Speaker 16 Yeah, the only thing I don't like about that is I love saying the lost art of the mid-range jumper. Like that's something that kids need to be practicing.

Speaker 16 But it's actually not, and they're right in terms of setting it up this way. I'd like to see three points for a two-handed layup or how Larry Bird used to do it.

Speaker 16 I think Larry Bird set up a scoring thing when he used to practice being like,

Speaker 16 a basket is worth one point, an assist is worth a point too. So if you get like a clean assist with no dribbles, then that's worth more than somebody creating it on their own.

Speaker 8 He also had this quote, modern Modern basketball, you're not catching a ball and putting it on your hip and staring at the defense for five seconds before you do anything.

Speaker 22 That's not how basketball is played anymore.

Speaker 59 But I'm sure, dad, uncle, grandpa, professional skills trainer, you're going to do all this mid-range, triple threat, all this old-fashioned garbage.

Speaker 30 I love it.

Speaker 59 Triple threat, though, is still, that still counts.

Speaker 16 And beef, balance, elbow follow-through. Yeah.

Speaker 12 If you see Matt Norlander of CBS tweeted it, it reflects in the game. Look at their shot chart.
Zero mid-range numbers.

Speaker 53 It's either layups or threes.

Speaker 50 And NATO's a great coach.

Speaker 8 I mean, it came from Buffalo.

Speaker 46 He's

Speaker 6 unbelievable.

Speaker 69 Like, Alabama, as good as they are offensively, they're actually very good defensively, which I think that's the weird part because you think of a fast-paced team doesn't play defense, and he's kind of proving that that's not the case.

Speaker 16 He's a football guy, isn't he? Nate Oates. I think we had him on Football Guy of the Week at some point.

Speaker 6 We might have.

Speaker 53 He also has really nice.

Speaker 12 He was a math teacher, high school math teacher.

Speaker 53 There we go.

Speaker 53 I like this.

Speaker 33 I want to ask him.

Speaker 34 He also wears great jackets.

Speaker 12 I'm going to ask him to pick his favorite algebra, geometry, or statistics.

Speaker 39 He taught all three.

Speaker 16 A little pro tip, say fuck Mary Kill.

Speaker 39 I wouldn't have to do it.

Speaker 9 That's not what I do.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Jake can't play.

Speaker 16 F-U-C-K, Mary Kill, it's harder to say. Yeah.

Speaker 16 I would like to see a coach take it one step further and have, you know, they've got the GPS trackers on the players in practice anyways to see how far they run, how fast they run, all these advanced statistics.

Speaker 16 Put like a little electro shock in there when they take a mid-range jumper, just, you know, 200 volts of electricity to the spinal column.

Speaker 52 Just pull him out of the game. I'm sure he does.

Speaker 6 The old Bo Ryan, Bo Ryan's, I watched Bo Ryan pull guys out of a game 10 seconds into it.

Speaker 39 I love that. That's a little old school, new school coaching.

Speaker 63 Either way, I do, I like Nate Oates.

Speaker 6 He's like fun. He's fun.
He's different. Right.

Speaker 30 And he, like, Alabama plays a fun style of basketball.

Speaker 37 I do not root for Alabama because I think it's unfair if they're really good at basketball, too.

Speaker 9 Yeah. That's fun.
That would be something.

Speaker 6 You can't win both.

Speaker 33 So you went to the Final Four. That's like Florida, right?

Speaker 12 Yeah, and yeah, 06-07, Gators on back-to-back, and Teebows on campus. We've talked about everyone on campus.

Speaker 36 So it's like UConn women's.

Speaker 16 You can't just throw that away. Yeah.

Speaker 42 And Riley Cooper.

Speaker 39 And Riley Cooper.

Speaker 39 Really women.

Speaker 9 And the Pouncey brothers.

Speaker 62 Pouncey's.

Speaker 12 A lot of people. The guy who was interviewed did not release.

Speaker 66 Bilzy.

Speaker 18 Who?

Speaker 39 Danny B.

Speaker 9 Ah!

Speaker 63 Yeah, Bilzarian probably thinks that he was the alpha of all.

Speaker 63 Yeah, no, he is.

Speaker 48 He probably tells stories like, yeah, I tried out for the team, but, you know,

Speaker 39 I was too good.

Speaker 68 I was too fast.

Speaker 16 I was too dangerous. I was like Sean Merriman, where they wouldn't let me practice against him.

Speaker 67 All right, guys on chicks, what?

Speaker 44 I'd beat the shit out of him in a rough and rowdy.

Speaker 33 Who?

Speaker 39 Dan Bilzerian? Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I'd make you sign a waiver and then threaten to sue you so you can never release it.

Speaker 69 He's tall.

Speaker 34 Maybe he's short. Yeah, fuck him.

Speaker 16 No, he's like exactly my size.

Speaker 16 So, yeah, he's exactly short.

Speaker 10 He's short. Hi, PMT.
My boyfriend always walks around with his hands in his pants.

Speaker 10 It doesn't matter what time of day it is or what type of conversation we are having, but he claims that he likes to keep his hand warm and cozy. Do all men do this or is my boyfriend a weirdo?

Speaker 16 That's a cool look.

Speaker 9 I do it.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 46 especially if you're wearing sweatpants.

Speaker 54 I don't do it when I'm wearing jeans, but if you're wearing sweatpants,

Speaker 57 it's almost like a magnet where your hands just end up in your pants.

Speaker 16 The other week, I was standing in jeans, and I caught myself. I had my four fingers in both front pockets, and then I had my two thumbs in my belt loop.
I looked down, I was like, this is too much.

Speaker 16 Your couch is on. Yeah, it's too much.

Speaker 16 Thank you. It's too much accessories going on with my fingers right now.
But yeah,

Speaker 16 if it's something that's less formal, yeah, put a hand down your pants. Not a big deal.

Speaker 10 I feel like this person has to be European. So I'll read it in a British accent.

Speaker 10 I recently started dating a guy, and whenever we go out drinking, he has an ego problem where he will pay the clubs to pee on the floor or to pee someone's, on someone's shoes.

Speaker 10 I don't think he remembers he's such an arse in the morning, and to be fair, he is paying thousands of dollars to do it. Is this a red flag?

Speaker 16 I love that accent because it is, you said it was a European accent, and it was literally a combination of like British, Polish, Italian, and Russian all in one.

Speaker 10 Bilingual, not a big deal.

Speaker 59 So if this is real,

Speaker 45 I'm in for it just because I'm assuming that this guy is rich, if he's paying thousands of dollars for it.

Speaker 74 And I also make the assumption that super, super rich people, they just get bored with regular life, so they need new challenges.

Speaker 8 And a new challenge is how many floors can I piss on?

Speaker 16 And they also think that money can actually take care of anything that they do wrong.

Speaker 16 And the ultimate test of that is, can I go into this place and then use the bathroom, turn the entire club into the bathroom for the right price? And that's true.

Speaker 16 Ultimately, the goal of getting rich is to do whatever you want, wherever you want, all the time.

Speaker 39 Yes.

Speaker 10 Sup, brothers, I recently put in my hinge profile that I'm looking for a fellow AWL, and so far it has not helped me find a man's. What can I be doing better to attract AWLs to match with me?

Speaker 10 Can we have some sort of secret code to put in our dating app profiles so I can stop answering the question, what is an AWL?

Speaker 18 Hmm.

Speaker 16 What would the code be for a lady to say that they were? I mean, just be the sup always works, I think.

Speaker 28 I think just wearing our merch, just buy all of our merch, right?

Speaker 43 That that would be the best way to do it.

Speaker 5 If you are

Speaker 31 men and women, we actually have a bunch of new shirts out.

Speaker 9 Buy all of our merch.

Speaker 58 And people would be like, oh my my god, that's cool, what's that?

Speaker 16 Or just put, we don't say that anymore, yeah, but really buy all the merch, all the merch, trying to push merch helps.

Speaker 42 Yeah, yeah, we have uh St.

Speaker 57 Patrick's Day merch, we have March Madness merch, we have a Dortcher Chamber shirt, we got a bunch of merch.

Speaker 16 I predict that if you wear

Speaker 16 uh women's part of my tick clothes just out on the town, you won't even need a hinge profile. No, you'll get you'll get hit on by the sweetest dude who will be swimming in cock.

Speaker 58 Does Billy just think of a guy like Billy hitting on you at every bar.

Speaker 28 That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 39 You're welcome.

Speaker 10 Speaking of Billy, does Billy get paid for his job and is he a communist?

Speaker 33 Not anymore.

Speaker 16 Billy doesn't get paid for his job anymore since he negotiated his way out of it.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 63 No, Billy gets paid.

Speaker 52 You were getting paid when you were first intern, right?

Speaker 18 We all paid you.

Speaker 39 Yeah, we paid you.

Speaker 16 We gave you some cash under the table.

Speaker 31 We always paid you.

Speaker 18 I got paid under the table.

Speaker 65 I've been very well taken care of.

Speaker 33 I have no complaints.

Speaker 67 You hit us up.

Speaker 31 People forget that a year ago when this all started and you came back into our lives, you did one appearance on Pardon My Take and then texted us and was like, hey, guys, do you think you could help me out real quick with a little money?

Speaker 75 And I don't even think you said thank you.

Speaker 62 I think I sent you 500 bucks.

Speaker 67 You bought a PS5 with it.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 68 That I used to make content.

Speaker 59 Shame on me.

Speaker 39 Be nice to Billy Week.

Speaker 62 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 16 What content did you make out of it?

Speaker 44 The UFC Fight Night.

Speaker 39 Yeah, that's true. You did.
Good point, Billy. Good job.
Good point.

Speaker 16 $500 well spent.

Speaker 39 Be nice to Billy Week.

Speaker 44 Thank you. No, I'm I'm very well taken care of.

Speaker 46 And you really, like, you have a job that you can't get fired from.

Speaker 40 That's what people.

Speaker 6 Trust me, once I'm graduating, I graduate and I move into the city.

Speaker 39 Billy has been promising us.

Speaker 30 He has been promising us this new and improved Billy the minute he graduates.

Speaker 54 You realize that you've now written yourself so many checks you have to cash.

Speaker 44 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 16 I'm going to cash him so hard.

Speaker 18 Okay, cool.

Speaker 27 To be fist?

Speaker 10 To fist or to be fisted? That is the question.

Speaker 9 Pass.

Speaker 33 To fist?

Speaker 57 Only fisting in the face.

Speaker 39 Oh, and it's got to be Jose.

Speaker 6 Billy didn't actually hit him in the face.

Speaker 75 He just

Speaker 65 laid down. I did.

Speaker 16 If you're going to fist somebody, you have to be willing to kill him. You have to have that mentality.
Like,

Speaker 36 I'm getting too fight

Speaker 39 out. I'm going to murder him.
I'm going to go to war mode. I know.

Speaker 16 I'm answering for Billy. No, I say, I mean, I think it's a pretty obvious question, right? Like, you want to be the one that's doing the fist.
You'd rather be the hammer than the nail. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 10 You got to put yourself in a chick's mind now.

Speaker 16 It's guys on chicks. You can't do it too much of an alpha.

Speaker 16 Actually, getting fisted is the most alpha thing ever because you're letting them think that they're the alpha. Little do they know that you gave them permission to fist you.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Alright, speaking of fisting, this will be the last question. Hi, small cat and PFT.
Me and my husband spent the weekend at my husband's parents' home.

Speaker 10 The guys went out drinking and left me and the other ladies alone at home. My husband's sister is a lesbian and is always flirting with me and complimenting me about my body.

Speaker 10 I never took it seriously until she got drunk and she tried making out with me. I resisted at first, but I always wanted to be with a woman and gave in.

Speaker 10 It was great, but I felt bad about cheating on my husband with his sister. Should I tell my husband or just pretend nothing happened?

Speaker 10 Also, his sister is engaged to another woman and she told me not to tell anyone.

Speaker 16 This is just the start of every porno that's on the front page of pornhub right now.

Speaker 33 It's not real.

Speaker 16 But accidentally made out with my sister-in-law.

Speaker 6 If it were real, don't tell anyone.

Speaker 1 It seems like you shouldn't.

Speaker 8 Seems like there'll be a a lot of feelings hurt.

Speaker 16 I also think that the word making out is doing a lot of work here. I don't really know where that term came from.
Maybe somebody can help me with that because, like, I made out with somebody.

Speaker 16 Is that... It sounds like something that someone would say in the 50s, like necking.
Oh, we're I'm going steady with this girl and we made out. Pinned her.

Speaker 16 I never really understood what making out meant. I guess that's just Frenching.
You frinched your sister? Making out.

Speaker 44 Making out is a term of American origin dating back to at least 1949.

Speaker 44 It is used to refer to kissing, including extended French kissing or heavy kissing of the neck, called necking, or to acts of non-penetrative sex, such as heavy petting.

Speaker 68 Dry humping.

Speaker 6 There's also, how long should making out last?

Speaker 13 Four to ten minutes? What?

Speaker 55 That's a lot of making out. Yeah, if you...

Speaker 67 These are funny questions.

Speaker 18 Why? These are

Speaker 39 questions

Speaker 35 for people who have never made out.

Speaker 35 Why does making out feel good?

Speaker 58 Along with the,

Speaker 31 I don't even know, the dopamine that make you feel affection and euphoria kissing releases serotonin another feel-good chemical how to practice making out is making out good for a relationship couples that are really good at making out together tend to have healthier relationships wow I like that really good at making out how does a guy feel after kissing a girl kissing improves the bonding

Speaker 39 this

Speaker 16 you don't even I'd imagine like there's some poor like 13 year old is reading all these things and then goes back to school is like well I felt really good because the serotonin was released in my brain okay dude you haven't made out yeah let's bring back makeouts makeout sessions let's bring back hickeys and dry humping dry humping needs to be brought back you're a big dry humper dry love love a dry hump all right numbers in animal fact

Speaker 39 35 8 22

Speaker 44 99 a two-ton bull elephant once stood its ground against a locomotive which he thought was threatening his family of elephants 58.

Speaker 62 Is that 58 or 50?

Speaker 44 I died in vain trying to save his family from the locomotive. He derailed it, though.

Speaker 12 58. Another first timer.

Speaker 18 Really?

Speaker 47 Are we ever going to get it?

Speaker 21 No.

Speaker 18 I don't think so. Oh, we are, right, Billy?

Speaker 12 And Liam?

Speaker 1 Love you guys. Billy, bring back 69.

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 16 Love you guys.

Speaker 39 Nice ability. Billy, nice ability.

Speaker 10 Love you guys.

Speaker 16 Love you guys.

Speaker 16 Talking away

Speaker 16 Oh, I don't know what I'm to say or says anyway

Speaker 16 Today's another

Speaker 26 day to find you shine away

Speaker 26 Oh, I've been coming for your love okay

Speaker 26 Shine away

Speaker 26 Oh, I've been coming for your love okay

Speaker 26 Take

Speaker 26 on

Speaker 26 me

Speaker 26 take

Speaker 26 me

Speaker 26 on

Speaker 26 I'll be

Speaker 26 gone

Speaker 26 too

Speaker 26 Needless to say

Speaker 26 I'm on settings

Speaker 26 But I'll being stowed away

Speaker 26 telling them that life is okay.

Speaker 26 Say after me

Speaker 26 it's no better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 26 Say after me

Speaker 26 it's no better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 26 Take

Speaker 26 on

Speaker 26 me

Speaker 26 Take

Speaker 26 me

Speaker 26 on

Speaker 26 I

Speaker 26 got

Speaker 26 a day of day

Speaker 26 All the things that you say

Speaker 26 bowl just to play my worries away

Speaker 26 You're all things I've got to remember They shine away

Speaker 26 Well I'll be coming for you anyway

Speaker 26 Take

Speaker 26 on

Speaker 26 me

Speaker 26 Take

Speaker 26 me

Speaker 26 on

Speaker 26 I'll be

Speaker 26 gone