Booger McFarland, USC QB Kedon Slovis, And Week 14 Preview

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Today is Friday, December 11th, and the Patriots, Hank, are dead. Oh.
Moment of silence for the Patriots dynasty. Stairway to seven.
Not meant to be this year. What was the joke that the person tweeted to you? I got a bunch of jokes.
A lot of comedians on Twitter. Oh, he's going to spit out.
What did you have in your mouth? A mint, a mint. Stairway to 7th.
Who are we trying to impress in this room? Stairway to 7th pick. Someone sent me a live look at the stairway and it was just a stair that looked like it got bombed that you couldn't even walk upstairs.
What was that one? What was that one? It's not appropriate. I was literally going through my mentions.
I'm not going to read it. Can we bleep it? I actually don't want to say it.
It's kind of funny. Live look at the stairway.
Stairway to get... What? All right, that didn't even make sense.
But do bleep it because then people will have to guess. Yeah.
No, that was a bad one. I know.
I was literally reading my mentions. I was about to read it.
Who is that guy really? His brain is mush. Live look at the stairway.
Bill Belichick's trying to walk up it, and then an owl comes down and lands on his head and murders him at the bottom like that dude's wife. Oh, man.
It was a tough game to watch. The Rams, I think, are very much for real.
But the Patriots' offense—the Patriots' defense deserves credit because they hung in there, and they played. It's very hard to play defense when your offense is that bad.
But I don't know. So, Hank, is it over? It's over.
It's over. This was a must win.
The Rams now are in full control of the NFC West. The Rams control their own destiny because although they're liable to fall a game behind Seattle, they play Seattle next week.
Yes. And they finish with the Cardinals.
Yeah, so if they went out, as much as one can control their own destiny. No, they've already beaten the Seahawks, so they're actually ahead of them right now.
Okay. Remember that Russell Wilson didn't run that time, and he threw a...
They held them to like 16 points. Right, but if...
They kind of kicked their ass. But if the Seahawks win this weekend...
Same record. Same record, so yeah.
This is how you do playoff predictors, folks. This is what we're talking about on Monday.
None of this nerd stuff with percentages. But then if the Seahawks beat them next weekend.
Yeah, just get confused with your own words. Then, but the Seahawks beat them next weekend, then that's a problem.
Correct. Then that's a problem.
Then that's a problem for the Rams. So the Rams, yeah.
Although Elijah Moore can show up and piss on something and then no one controls their own destiny. Yeah.
We turned off the sound. Did Cam get benched or was it just like this game's over? I think it was this game's over.
Okay. Anytime it's in the fourth quarter, you're down by 20 points.
It's like you don't want Cam to get more hurt. Yeah.
That's the chatter. Also, ban yellow cleats forever.
We've been saying it. Yellow cleats and yellow gloves.
I've been confused about flags all night. And we also had the great visual of Bill Belichick.
If you had to make a prediction of the NFL in the age of COVID, I would say first pick would be Bill Belichick having very funny visuals with the masks. So he the face hole mask that was he was double bagging it which can be more dangerous because then you get the friction yep but the underneath mask had a mouth hole cut out it looked like it looked like a mask that had a fleshlight on the front yes and then he had like the uh nurses the health care professional mask on the outside of that.
So it was technically two masks, but it was the cutoffs of mask on the inside and then the hoodie on the outside. It was, yeah, so not a really great game, but Sean McVay, I would say, does this count as the monkey off your back? I think he'd rather have the Super Bowl.
Well, I mean, he killed the dynasty. Yeah.
Yeah. Yes.
But yes, he did. But I think he'd still rather have the Super Bowl, but this probably has to feel a little bit good that he was able to beat Bill Belichick.
Fast turf, not really fast, under hit. Do you think that the fact that he now beat Bill Belichick, it replaces some of the memories? Because he's got the photographic memory, so he remembers everything about that Super Bowl.
I still think you'd rather have the Super Bowl. But does it replace does it move one of those memories a little bit further back? Like if you were to ask Sean McVay a month from now be like, so when you guys played the Patriots would his photographic memory go immediately back to this game? Or would he go back to the Super Bowl? Damn, Cam Akers ran for 171 yards.
Look at you. That's nice.
The Rams are a complete team. I really do think so.
Yeah. McVay, he does trouble me a little bit.
His eyes have gotten wider this season. Have you noticed that? Also, he did the happy-go-lucky sprint on a pick-six play.
I don't really know. Hank, you don't want Cam back on the Patriots right nah i mean it was it was very it was very telling when they got down when it was still a game in the first quarter maybe it was the second quarter they got down in the red zone and they didn't throw like fourth fourth down they try an option play that's well guarded it just if you can't throw the quarterback should be able to throw ideally yeah in Yeah.
In the NFL. The Bears have tried to win without a throwing quarterback for a very long time.
Yeah. It doesn't work.
It's not good. No, it's not good.
Cam, they're saying that he's injured. They're saying he's got like an ab issue.
Matthew Barry's tweet. 31 teams passed on him.
The core controls your whole body. Now 32 teams will pass on him this offseason.
But again, a team should bring him in as just like basically a short yardage. Let's just remember, though, because I do think we were having the discussion while we were watching the game about Cam.
He did win an MVP. He was at one point a very good, great quarterback, throwing, running, doing the whole thing.
His Auburn years were awesome. So let's just remember that for a second.
Because we actually i i don't really know how old is cam newton i don't know where like what his career go where it goes from here you know what i mean he's not that old there he's gonna be 32 next year so that's not that old but but if you're not healthy you can't play quarterback like he so that's the thing about cam is like why why isn't he a great passer it's like well he used well, he used to be a really good passer, too. Right.
There were a few years where Cam was, like, lighting shit up. Very good.
He's just, like, his entire game has gone downhill. So I don't know.
I think Cam Newton might retire after this year. I don't know.
I don't know, Jim. Not to pick on Hank, but the other news that we had to talk about before we get to NFL Week 14, Coach K is the biggest front-running fraud of all time.
Not to brag, but we called it. Two and T.
They have one game. Hank, they lost to Michigan State.
This is an overblown reaction. They got killed by Illinois, and then Coach K said we got to reassess and start really thinking about this COVID thing, and we're canceling the rest of the non-ACC season.
Which is one game. Which makes it even more ridiculous because it's probably a home game.
I would imagine they weren't going to Gardner-Webb. Yeah, I imagine they weren't going to Gardner-Webb, Hank.
Who almost upset Virginia. Yeah.
Yeah, okay, there you go. This is Coach K's way of basically saying, I'm putting the kids first.
Number one, I'm canceling Gardner-Webb. You know what he said? Hats off to Coach K.
He said, we're going to give our student-athletes the opportunity to go home for Christmas. But then he followed up with, now obviously they're not going to be home on Christmas because we'll need them back on campus before Christmas Day.
But I want to give them the opportunity to be with their families slightly before Christmas for the holidays. Yeah.
So, Coach K, I mean, there was no easier call to make ever. You knew that this moment was it was coming when he was like there are bigger things there are more important things for me to be doing right now uh you just got to look at everything i guys ever stopped and you know looked in the mirror yeah saturday or sunday like taking a long walk and just wondered to yourself is there anything bigger than sports yeah there's not yeah i've tried there I've tried.
There are. And Coach K knows that, and he cares.
Family, safety, health. I honestly think that if we could just get a room that we're like, we had someone dress up in a mascot uniform as COVID, and we're just like, Coach K, go and scold this kid for taking a three and a blowout, that would itself just let Coach K get some steam off.'s really it he can't coach covet he can't he can't tell covet how to win with class yeah do you think he's stuck do you think he's going to do anything with the the players on team like take away the d's on their uniform yeah that remember that that was that was an all-time moment he literally makes them play naked he's going to teach them life lessons, more importantly, than anything else.

Man.

All right.

Yeah, but that was...

I mean, come on, Hank.

Just do a little truth serum for a second.

It was bad timing.

Optically, given his history and his past and the way the season has gone, bad optics. Optics were bad timing.
Optics were bad. Optics were bad.
It was a bad visual. Yes, bad visual.
No disrespect to families, but that's how he should have started that whole press conference. You know what, Coach K? What about all the families that get tremendous joy around the holidays watching you beat the shit out of Gardner-Webb at home? Do you think about those families? Yes.
Yes. I would have bet that game.
I would have bet on Gardner-Webb, but I still was robbed. Why don't you think about those people, Coach? Yeah.
All right. Let's get to our week 14 preview.
We're going to go through every game. A little fun fact before.
I know it's been a tough beginning for me. First time the Patriots won't have a 10-win season since 2002.
Damn. That's crazy.
That actually is crazy. That's the reverse Browns.

Yeah.

So it's, you know, it's sad, but it's also like when you look at that.

That's insane.

That's insane.

Damn.

So 18 years.

That's insane.

Yeah.

I was.

18 years.

I was in second grade.

Do you know how old you are?

I don't even know.

How old are you?

27.

Oh, my God. All right.
Let's get to our weekend preview. Wait, where are the – holy shit.
Yeah. When's your birthday? I thought you were older than me.
Yeah. No, it was more in January.
You're in September, right? When's your birthday, Hank? June. June, June.
27-year-olds. I'm like three months older.
Just chilling. One thing, though, before we get into the entire week preview, Hank sent a very funny text before the game started.
And it was just a picture of Gunnar Oshkowski. How do you say his last name? Gunnar Oshkowski? Yep.
It was just a picture of him walking into the stadium wearing a wife beater. And I was trying to figure out why he sent that to us, and you were just like, he looks like he'd be one of your guys.
It's right up your alley, P. If you like weird fucking guys and weird people.
It is true. You like white guys on the Patriots more than Bill Belichick does.
No, no, no. You know what? He looks like Kid Rock.
Yeah. That's what it is.
He looks like Kid Rock. He looks like Kid Rock.
The long hair, the white beard. He looks like Kid Rock.
That's what Hank was getting. Kid Rock and Dave Grohl mixed together.
Olszewski. The ultimate rock star.
Olszewski. Do you think any kid named Gunner

ever got a fair shake from their teacher?

I don't think so.

I think like day one,

you get a kid named Gunner in class,

you're like,

front row at the right next to my desk.

Yeah, and maybe with an A,

but an E is a little different.

Yeah.

Was there a Gunner in Mighty Ducks?

Yeah, Gunnar.

Oh, that's back, by the way.

What?

It's a foreshadowing to... Put the fucking mint out of your mouth.
Get the mint out of your mouth. Oh, yeah.
I thought we were moving on. They're coming out with a TV show.
Emilio Estevez and the woman, the mom... Oh, it's the girl from Gilmore Girls.
Okay. Yes, we're familiar with the Gilmore Girls.
Lorelei. The mom or daughter? Lorelei.
Not Rory. Not Rory.
Not Rory. Okay.
Emilio. Remember that? No.
Mighty Ducks is back, I guess. All right.
Okay. Is it one from Dead? That's going to be his first club.
No. What's his name? I'm just trying to start with that.
It was really bad. I think he was addicted to stuff.
Goldberg. Okay.
But he's back. Maybe.
Okay. I don't think he's back.
All right, let's get to the weekend preview. We're going to get right back to the show.
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All right, back to part of my take. All right, week 14.
I'm going to have to do it, boys. I'm going to have to do it.
Everyone needs to take a second, take a mental snapshot, take a deep breath, realize that we're in the homestretch, okay? We have played more football than we have football left. Bigs up get your fours up as fans all right it's not crunching time this is how we do time this is the moment i preach it all the time at the end of the season just take a second for yourself take it right now close your eyes unless you're driving if you're driving maybe even still close your eyes take a deep breath your eyes.
Take a deep breath in. Breathe it out through your mouth, in through your nose, out through your mouth, in through your nose, out through your mouth.
One more. Remember this moment.
This is week 14. We only have a few weeks left and then we have playoffs and then it is just a countdown to less and less football games.
Remember this moment. Cherish it.
Make sure that you are on the couch all Sunday. Make sure you are watching every football game there is because come February, there is no football and you will have none to watch.
Okay. Week 14.
I'm very excited for this week. This is a huge, huge week for playoffs.
It's some good games, some big spread games, a great Sunday night game game pretty much everything you want in a football schedule let's go through it uh we will start with a game i think we're all very interested in chiefs dolphins are the dolphins for real no no they're not i don't think i don't think that they can do what they did uh to the 49ers the chiefs correct i uh so the Dolphins, they're a part of the can't-lose parlay, which is going to have extra boost at odds because we keep losing it, so they're going to kick it in this week, Penn is. Miami, all they do is blitz.
Patrick Mahomes, all he does is be literally the best quarterback against the Blitz, according to QBR, since they started the stat. So I don't think that's a great combo.
Not to mention, Hank, remember a little old thing we talked about last year? Turnover luck? Miami's number one in that. Guess who doesn't turn it over? Patrick Mahomes.
So I at least hope that we get a little bit of Andy Reid breaking out the Tommy Bahama this weekend, because it is going to be in Miami. That's as close as he's going to get to being in a tropical environment.
We didn't get to see him at the coaches' meeting because of COVID last year. Wear the Gibella shirt on the sideline.
They should make a Hawaiian shirt for coaches in team colors to wear, just specifically for Andy Reid, actually. But I think that Kansas City is going to dominate.
But if you're Miami, it comes down to the age-old question like how do you how do you stop patrick mahomes you make him drift right you make him you're flush well they're gonna blitz them they're gonna blitz but that's not gonna win but then they blitz them and then he picks you apart correct on the backside correct he is literally the best quarterback according to qbr since they started the stat against the blitz i i'm actually more interested to see how tua does in a big game i do not think the dolphins will win but tua can he play like a little bit toe for toe can he hang in a game like this that will be a big test for miami also we're going to get some nice flashbacks to the super bowl because that's where this was played so last time they were here we in we anointed our new king a lot of fun little cut-ins like that. I do like this uniform matchup, too.
I feel like even though the Dolphins uniforms are candy-ass, as we've said many times on the show, the candy-assness goes away a little bit when Tua is wearing it. When Tua is wearing it, it looks natural.
It looks cool. I agree.
When Fitzpatrick is leading the team, it does look like it's kind of like like a pastel cartoon type color palette it's also not

candy ass at home it's not candy ass at home on the road it is candy ass especially in december when they play cold and it's it's it's the dolphins jersey it is the definition of candy ass um all right we're all in agreement there cowboys bangles hank chime in if you have any money lines you love because there are some big spreads and he don't revenge game handy This is going to be huge.

He's going to have a chip on his shoulder going back.

I... you have any money lines you love because there are some big spreads.
Andy Dalton revenge game. Andy Dalton revenge game.
This is going to be huge. He's going to have a chip on his shoulder going back.
I think I'm back on the Cowboys. This game stinks.
Yeah, the Cowboys are probably going to win this game, but holy shit does this game stink. Have we been underestimating Brandon Allen? No, I think we just haven't.
No, but you have to ask that question. Yes, maybe overestimating him.
All right, so yeah, who cares? Texans, Bears, guess what is the easiest? I swear to God, PFT, if for some reason we just lost our jobs tomorrow, we could start a new media company and just every single day write a different article about how the Bears passed on Watson and Mahomes to draft Mitch Trubisky because it is instant retweets it's instant clicks it is instant oh my god can you believe this this week it was Watson saying I can't believe the Bears didn't talk to me um I'm over it whatever I'm not over it I will never get over it it's one of those things you'll never get over but I'm over it totally you know who else the Bears passed on who Bill. Suck it.
Do you know what? Someone actually tweeted me. The only team to not pass on DK Metcalf.
The Chicago Bears. Okay.
That's pretty good. Yeah.
They didn't have a draft pick. But yeah, so this will just be storylines galore.
We'll get the... It's never going to go away.
I mean, if it was... It's going to haunt me for the rest of my life.
I will be on my deathbed being like, holy shit, Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watts. If it wasn't for that, then this would be a who cares game too.
Oh, I think it still is a who cares game. I am so happy.
The only thing that's good about the rest of this Bears season for me is that they've stashed every single game away on Sunday at noon slash 1 o'clock. That's it.
You can just stash it away and pretend it didn't happen. J.J.
Watt is couple big plays and he might let you personally know about it yes by the way uh talk about a perfectly balanced perfect slate hank we have one two three four five six seven games in the in the daytime and then uh six in the four o'clock window and then a sunday night that's pretty good and i I think it's like 2 at 4 and 4 at 4.30. Right.
I like that. Because we have no more buys.
So we get the full, full slate. It is great.
It's going to be chaos at all times. Wait, I know how you feel about the afternoon being, you know, the day being bottom heavy.
Is six games too much for you for the afternoon? Because that's the vibe I was getting from both of you guys last time. Well, yes, it is.
I'm of the mindset where I'm okay with six games. I would prefer eight and five.
You get a double witching hour. I could take six in the afternoon as long as there isn't five to start.
That was my biggest. The biggest gripe is you need the witching hour, that chaos.
Remember last week when it was just chaos everywhere, and it wasn't even good games. It was just chaos.
You need that seven games to get the full chaos. Here's what I need in afternoon slate i want i want two premier games that i can be watching the entire time and the rest is like you know icing on the cake a little bit we don't so we don't really have that well well you have your washington football team i think most of the country would agree that that's probably not a premier game and that's fine the nfc beast is a uh acquired taste all right let get there.
All right, so Cardinals-Giants is the next game on the list. So weeks one through nine, Kyler Murray, when he was – we were all talking about MVP.
Watch out for Kyler Murray. He was seventh in efficiency since then, since week 10.
He is exactly – the quarterback in front of him is Cam Newton. The quarterback behind him is Drew Locke.
So, whoops. Not great.
Kyler Murray, for some reason to me, he's not an East Coast quarterback. No.
He doesn't feel like an East Coast guy. That's my most Colin Coward take of the week is that he feels like he should be playing always in the afternoon, usually in the sun somewhere.
I don't know if he's cut out to beat these New York football giants. They're on a roll.
I rooting for the giants okay but here's the other thing is daniel jones you see the story where it's like the giants can't trust daniel jones own uh analysis of his injury uh no shit daniel jones is definitely gonna he is absolutely one of those guys who will say i can play at all times because he's just kind of too not dumb but like i just think all he does is play football. Well, I think that he grew up always listening to his coaches.
Right. Always.
And he never wants to disappoint his coach. And so to him, being injured is a disappointment to Joe Judge.
And so he knows that coaches like to hear, put me in. Yes.
Not because he actually really, really has a burning desire to always play, but because I think he thinks that Joe Judge will think less of him if he's hurt as a man, which he might. He absolutely will.
So, yeah, I think he's going to play. He's going to be less than 100%.
I do still like the Giants, though. I don't know why they're giving up three points at home.
Well, Colt McCoy, and it's also one and a half. But, yes, Colt McCoy.
It's gone down to one and a half. I've got three right now.
Colt McCoy would probably be the answer. It would be my guess.
Colt McCoy, because you kind of forget, like, oh, yeah, Colt McCoy is the quarterback. Maybe.
And people still buy the fucking, I don't know why they still buy it. Oh, it went back to three.
It's been all over. I don't know why people still buy Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury right now because they are broken.
But I guess that's just going to keep happening. Yeah.
I will stand up for a short king on most occasions. It's just weird when a head coach is taller than his quarterback.
Yes. It gives off a peewee vibe.
All right, Vikings, Bucs. The Bucs are going to annihilate the Vikings.
When you look at the Vikings, they're 6-6. Everyone's had their little moment where they're like, watch out for the Vikings.
And then you – oh, that's going to be your money line all right one of really okay well let me just throw this out there the uh bucks their losses this year have come against very good defenses they've lost the saints twice they lost to the rams they lost to the bears when the bears were still playing defense and playing a good defense and they they lost to who was the last loss? The Chiefs. The Chiefs.
Their defense, yeah. I mean, they were out 100 points to start the game.
Those are really good teams minus the Bears, but the Bears were still playing defense back then. It's also a matchup of strengths here at quarterback position because you've got Kirk Cousins who can't play at night and Tom Brady who also can't play at night.
They'll probably hang out after the game, the golden corral for like the early bird special go home be in bed by 8 p.m one 1 p.m is a perfect time slot for tom brady this year obviously um and he's they got i'm gonna i'm gonna go to my deathbed saying this like the tampa bay buccaneers are the most talented team in the nf yeah that's the that's the line um hey can i talk you out of it couple stats? Yes, please. Brady off a bye since 2010 is 7-3.
The Minnesota Vikings want to run the ball. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have been number one against the run in the last year and a half.
I would be very worried about that. Also, a visual game.
Kirk Cousins, grass stains, maybe a little warm. He's looking a little extra short.
He gets sacked a couple times. You don't want that.
You don't want that. Tom Brady's going to get...
The Bucs have killed bad defenses. They killed the Packers.
Bad defense. They killed the Panthers twice.
They killed the Raiders. The Vikings are a lower half defense.
I think the Bucs are going to kill them, and everyone's going to be like, ooh, watch out for the Bucs. There are a lot of megachurches in Tampa, Florida, too.
Billy was about to ask that. I looked it up.
Nice, Billy. I don't really know how many there are, but the first thing that popped up was a list of the top ten best megachurches in Tampa, Florida.
So to me, that implies that there are many, many megachurches. Many, many churches.
Many megachurches. Kirk Cousins, we've established that's not a great environment for him.
I like the Buccaneers, too. They're in the can't-lose parlay.
Alright, next up, Broncos-Panthers. These two teams are 64-88 since they met in the Super Bowl in 2015.
Not so good. No.
Isn't it kind of weird to think that they played in the Super Bowl? It's a business decision game. Not that long ago.
It really wasn't that long ago. It was five years ago.
And is it time to ask, did Cam Newton not talking to the media after the game curse him? We pay his salary by coming up with these storylines for him. Did Peyton Manning retire him? He never bounced back.
Yeah, probably. Maybe.
So, yeah, Carolina, Denver. Matt Rule said something today about Christian McCaffrey, which makes me believe that he is starting to think that maybe they shouldn't have given Christian McCaffrey that megabucks extension.
Well, technically, did Matt Rule give it to him? Yeah. Yeah, that was like one of the first things that happened.
And I was saying when it did happen, like this is a classic new coach move. Got to do it.
To ingratiate himself to the franchise. He lost Luke Keekly.
To the fans. You lose Luke Keekly.
You have to walk in the door and say, like, this is my guy here if you're a first-time head coach. And Christian was his guy.
I think Matt Rule has kind of learned that he can win. Also, it's got to be kind of like it has to be a little frustrating to be Christian McCaffrey's coach knowing that every week you have to come up with all these different cool ways to get him the ball because he's so so good yes and the defense is just keying in on him and you know he's going to get injured again yeah um all right uh i don't really know who to pick on that game i'd say panthers maybe i'm taking the panthers because they said that blake bortles uh has been spending most of his time outside of the facility they're having him as a virtual quarterback for the most part.
That's bad for team morale. The best part of Blake Bortles is having him around the guys.
Right, right. But that's probably good for Blake Bortles not being able to purchase dip.
Yeah, also that. Titans-Jags.
I don't know how. I don't know why.
But this game just feels like it's going to be a million points. And it's going to come down to the witching hour.
I don't why i just it just feels that way because this game shouldn't the titans should be able to to to dominate but i don't i don't know there's just a weird weird matchup both defenses kind of stink it's going to be chaos back and forth mike glennon i'm excited for it play this game in england yes that's all Play this game in England. All right.
Afternoon slate. Good afternoon slate.
Well, not great, but good. Colts Raiders first one.
So this is truly a loser leave town game. Yeah, because so according to the ESPN playoff predictor, the Colts right now are 39% chance to make the playoffs.
If they win, they go to over 75% chance. The Raiders are 42% or sorry, the Colts would gain 39% to over 75% chance to make the playoffs.
Big Kornacki. The Raiders would gain 42% chance to just under 75% chance of making the playoffs.
Yeah. So the winner basically is in the playoffs and the loser is going to be in a lot of trouble.
I'm looking forward to this game. This is going to be one of my favorite games to watch the week.
I think they're going to be a shitload of points scored. And I I'm leaning towards Vegas in this one.
Yep. Yeah, I'll say that I'm leaning leaning towards Vegas.
I would not put either team in your can't lose parlay, but no, this is going to be like the crown jewel of the afternoon. Jets, Philip Rivers and Derek Carr in the fourth quarter.
Very animated. Yeah.backs.
They're probably going to yell at each other. Jets, Seahawks, who Seahawks are going to kill.
Yeah. I think so.
Shout out to the Jets, who nominated a guy for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award. A guy who was cut by the Jets, who's no longer on the team.
How about Miles Garrett? Yeah, Miles Garrett can. That's kind of like a mini comeback player of the year.

Yeah, Time Magazine should do a comeback person of the year.

Yeah, yes.

Miles Garrett would probably have a strong case for that.

Miles Garrett.

If you're the guy that is no longer on the Jets

and also got nominated for Walter Payton Man of the Year,

that's like the best of both worlds for that guy.

Yes, yes.

You are truly living your best life right now.

Jamal Adams is going to do something in this game, revenge game.

Did you see Jamal Adams was mad that they lost to the Giants

Thank you. like the best of both worlds for that guy yes you you are truly living your best life you are jamal adams is going to do something in this game revenge game did you see jamal adams was mad that they lost to the giants because it's a new york team yeah so think about what would happen if they lost the jets um all right saints eagles fun fact jalen hurts has only been an underdog in one single game in his career dating back to high school and in that in that game, they lost 63-28.
So you've got to kind of hammer the Saints. Yeah.
That was the LSU-Oklahoma semifinal game last year. Oh, that was a good one.
So that clearly is statistically – that's a trend, PFT. It is.
We can put a finger on that one. As an underdog, he got smoked.
And the over hit. And the over hit.
Yeah, so the under is 43 right now. So I'll take the over on that one easily.
Fuck. I, I want to take the Eagles in this game just because I, I always stupidly bet on quarterbacks making their very first starts.
I love betting on quarterbacks and head coaches that nobody's ever seen before because in my dumb brain, it's like, well, there's not that much tape out there on jalen hurts but in reality there's a shitload of tape of jalen hurts but nfl guys they don't pay attention to the college game like they started running the read option three years ago right and people were like holy shit what is this sorcery yes um so my my stupid part of my brain is telling me to bet on the Eagles, and I don't have a smart part of my brain,

but if I did, it would be saying bet on the Saints.

The Saints are in the can't-lose parlay.

Next up, Packers-Lions, Aaron Rodgers, 16-5, all-time against the Lions.

I don't know.

Without Kenny Galladay, I think he's not going to go again.

I just don't think.

I don't think. I think it's going to be.

The only way the Packers lose this game is if they're, like, sleepwalking, but But you got to remember, too, the Packers, the Chiefs play the Saints next week and the Packers can still get the one seat. And that one seat is everything this year.
I love the new playoff format. I hope they keep it because it does feel like there's not going to be as many letdown spots for the top teams, knowing that the Chiefs can't lose to the Dolphins.

The Packers can't lose to the Lions.

It just feels like teams are going to be a little bit more game at the end of the season.

Can an interim head coach get fired?

Has that ever happened?

Well, he's 1-0.

Yeah, but the way I would do it if I were the Detroit Lions,

I would say the job is yours until you lose.

And then next man up.

Ride the hot hand.

Yeah, exactly.

Ride the hot hand until it's not hot anymore. So, yeah, I like Green Bay, obviously.
But I think I like the Lions in this game. Okay.
The Packers are in the can't-lose parlay. Would be a shame.
Falcons and Chargers. These teams deserve each other.
They deserve each other. I'm not going to tune in until the fourth quarter because shit's going to get wild.
They deserve each other. They are so, so similar in their ineptitude.
Although the Falcons are a little bit more professional-looking with Raheem Morris, I feel like. They don't make as many Falcon-y mistakes.
Big Cat, did you not hear Anthony Lanerly this week? Yeah, he invoked Pearl Harbor. He said, listen, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? And you know what? A lot of people thought that things were bad then, but then it got a lot better afterwards.
Like the next three years, hundreds of thousands of people died. Yeah, right.
World War. That kicked ass.
Yeah, so if anything tells you after the Patriots beat them 45-0, we're on the brink of World War III. We're on the brink of World War III, and then maybe five years from now, then the Chargers will be better, which might make sense.
The Chargers, you know how people say they're a couple pieces away from being great? Yes, always. Love their roster.
Always love the roster of the Chargers, no matter what. The Chargers feel like they're two head coaches away from being great.
Yes. So whoever they hire next is going to be a shithead, and then somehow they'll luck into the coach they get after that yes yes i'd agree with that um all right last up uh for the sunday afternoon slate washington football team at the niners i actually think the washington football team i like them in this game pft i like them too the only thing that concerns me is kyle shanahan hates game yeah hates dan snyder like absolutely cannot stand dan sny.
He's got some trick plays he's been holding back. Yes, he's got a lot.
Greg Kittle's not playing, I hope. I don't know.
Not because I hope he's injured. Yeah, it sounds like he did.
Well, I hope he's looking out for his future. There we go.
And opting out of this game. Yes.
It's going to be played in Arizona, which will be weird. But my heart says go with the football team, and my dick says take the over.
Oh. Nick Mullins.
Let's go. Late in the game.
He's an over machine. I feel like this is 35-20 football team.
Okay. Steelers at Bills.
Sunday Night Football. Going to be great.
I had the idea of we need to just get one of those low-flying planes and just spray the entire city of Buffalo in vaccine. That would be nice.
Because I know you were talking like, let's get them vaccinated. Maybe that's what everyone goes to their front lawn, and we just do it that way.
Yeah, it's either give everybody the vaccine there first, as first responders, or actually, Bills fans are essential workers i'll just say those fans during during december bills fans are essential workers they

make my sundays that much better watching them before the game seeing the videos on on twitter

seeing them in the stands during the game having josh allen like try to throw a ball out of the

stadium he can't try to throw a ball out of a stadium when there's nobody there that's not fun

it would be great if cuomo did one of his uh press conferences with this slideshow and it said like

Thank you. like try to throw a ball out of the stadium.
He can't try to throw a ball out of the stadium when there's nobody there. That's not fun.
It would be great if Cuomo did one of his press conferences with this slideshow and it said like vaccines, number one, hospital workers, number two, guys named Joe, Paul, Bill, and like Troy who live in western New York and own a pair of Zubas, number three, essential workers. Yeah, number two, Pinto Ron.
Number three, all those guys. I said this on Twitter yesterday because the Bills were like debuting.
They're going color rush, by the way. So get your underwear in order.
I would absolutely love to see Bills playing Zubas. Yes.
And like for the color rush. Of course.
Why has that yet of course how billy just i think billy just nutted over there that would be so awesome it would be so so like just it doesn't have to be like full zubas because i understand that would probably like fuck it probably make some people with weak stomachs but yeah yeah the stripe in the pants are the are the buffalo on the helmet yes would be it oh my god do it uh so yeah I'm very much looking forward to – I think the Bills are going to crush them, actually. This is the first Sunday night game in Buffalo since 07.
The Patriots played them in 07. Final score, 56-10 pats.
I was going to say, ah, because it sucks that there's not fans. Mike Tomlin as an underdog is 18-6 against the spread since 2015.

Something to look out for.

I do feel like that is the stealer way that Mike Tomlin,

if they're big favorites,

if they feel like they're playing an inferior opponent,

they usually come out flat.

When they're in a spot where it feels like the whole world's against them,

they answer the bell.

All right, that is... Do we know what day of the week the Ravens are playing on yet?

Monday.

Is that solidified? Ravens, they just don't play normal at normally scheduled time never never all right my so the can't lose parlay like i said it has been losing i'll be fully fully admit that we're gonna try to get it as boosted as we can but it's seahawks bucks saints chiefs billy you want to explain what you got you have a billy has outcomes. Well, there's 32 outcomes, and this week I think it's 20 of them have positive outcomes.
You've got to check it out. Why don't you get rid of the ones that have negative outcomes? Because that's impossible.
Because if I could, I would have. I'm just thinking with common sense here.
So, you know, it's very hard to explain. There's about five different bets.

Okay.

But to make it basic, we're depending a lot on the Broncos to win this week.

It was hinging on the Lions last week.

Okay, so the Broncos are everything for you.

Kind of.

Okay.

So, we'll see.

That's never a mark of a good system.

No.

No.

That's a problem.

That is a big-time problem, Billy, and you know it.

I hope you make a lot of money.

I actually like the can't-lose parlay this week. Yeah.
I don't think he can lose. No, I don't think he can either.
Say those teams again. Seahawks, Bucs, Saints, Chiefs.
The only one I'm... No, actually, I'm not nervous about any of them.
So the Packers I misspoke is not in it. Seahawks, Bucs, Saints, Chiefs.
If you want to do the deluxe can't-lose parlay, we're going to get it boosted. Toss in the Titans.
We're going to get it boost, okay. Yeah.
I don't know. No, that's the deluxe version that's not on the app.
We're going to get it boosted, so you don't even need to do the deluxe. We're going to get it boosted.
I've got a couple things coming on the Barstool Sportsbook app. We're doing the Jameis Winston hat trick bet again, where over one and a half quarterbacks to throw for a touchdown, an interception, and a fumble.
Fumble lost. That hit easily last week with all the weird quarterbacks we have.
And then I've also got the bird alert. You can bet on how many bird teams are going to win this week.
And I think we're doing an NFC beast bet, too. Nice.
How many NFC East teams are going to win. I think that's set at one and a half.
So check it out on the Barstool Sportsbook app, 1-800-GAMBLER. If you've got a problem, what are you going to say, Billy? You can find the whole spreadsheet with all the bets at pardonmytake.net.
That's not true, Billy. You built a whole new website? You haven't been doing anything of your job, none of your job.
I'm a big domain owner of our IP. I have a lot of questions about this, too.
Yeah, I have a lot of real estate in our IP. So, did you maybe see that Bryce Hall had the same idea as you a couple months ago? Who? Okay, good answer.
Wait, why? You just made a website about it today. To make a website for what? No, he didn't have an idea to make a website.
You know exactly where... This is Billy trying to lie and trying to clumsily redirect the conversation.
Okay. Bryce Hall had the idea of like, let's make a website where people can fight each other to see who can fight me.
Really? I'm pretty sure. I have no idea.
I have no idea about that. And then what's up with...
Why do you want to fight Sir Yacht? Well, Sir Yacht, no, not Suryat. Brawl Paul Brawlhall.com .net.
But who's Bryce Hall, I thought. Bryce Hall's a TikToker who pissed off her boss.
So you do know him. I will fight him.
So Suryat, did you happen to see that Suryat's been challenging Jake Paul to a fight for like four months? Yeah. And I was kind of like, fuck this dude.
I might fight Suryat. But he was the one who started tweeting at Jake Paul.
Fight list is Jake Paul. He's just avoiding my questions now.
He's just totally avoiding his call. You got it exactly right.
Yeah, I have it all exactly right. It's pretty funny to think that like Billy, how Billy would like to sell the fight against Sir Yacht.
It's like, I want to fight this guy because he wants to fight the same guy I want to fight. Yeah.
Billy is, Billy is like our, he's, he's our, he's our kid that he thinks that we don't have the ability to check the history on the internet. Yeah.
He thinks we have, he looks at porn and then, and then he's like, I deleted it all. I'm good.
And then we go log on the computer and we're like, what, Billy? Billy thinks that we have a different internet than he has. He thinks that we don't have the same Twitter.com.
You know what it is? Billy is ageist. Billy thinks we're so old.
We don't know who these people are. Well, you've never been on TikTok.
Yeah. So you had no idea who Trace McSorley was before...
27 years old.

I never watched a Penn State game.

Yeah, but you didn't know he was such a big deal until I told you.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Big Cat, you didn't know that.

You didn't know how swaggy he was.

Dude, Trace McSorley ripped my heart out in Indianapolis four years ago when you were

still in your diapers.

I wasn't.

Okay.

You were.

Yeah.

You wore diapers your first year as an intern here.

No, I...

All right, cut that. I had a problem.
My bad. I forgot to say that.
All right, let's do Fantasy Fuckboys, and let's get to Booger. And we have Keaton Slovis from USC, starting quarterback.
We're entering him into the part of my take team because he's going to be the number one pick in a couple years. Let's do Fantasy Fuckboys.
Yeah, QB room. All right, ready? Go.
Yeah, dude. What's up, boys? What up? How you doing? Fucking Italian.
We got some selling salts. Give me a selling salt.
Get the fucking salts out. Hold on.
Here we go. Here we go.
Double fisting. Boom.
Boom. Oh, yeah.
Snort it. Oh, boy.
Christopher. It's Jono's Malignant Anos.
Yeah, it's Jono's Malos Malignantanos. Which Miggy? My stardom this week is Ryan Tannehill.
Yeah? Last time I told you to stardom, it was against the Jags. What'd he do? Threw four touchdowns.
Who's he playing this week? The Jags. He's going to go off again.
If you got him for the playoff, put him on your team. He's a great quarterback in Florida.
That's for sure. Do it.
And my sleeper is Billy. He got caught for plagiarism.
He might be. Got the hot seat big time.
I also didn't write down a sentence. I didn't plagiarize.
I don't know where it went. I didn't plagiarize.
Who? All right. Wait, my sleeper is nerds.
Yeah. Fuck them.
Fuck them. Disney Plus came out with like 500 new fucking Star Wars shows today.
Every character that's ever existed is getting a show.

Nerds are going to be sleeping good knowing that.

Wet dreams for the nerds.

It should all be Baby Yoda.

All Baby Yoda all the time.

Baby Yoda channel.

Check it out.

What's up, fuckheads?

This is Nunzio Campanelli.

You've done this for 10 times.

I'm Nunzio.

I'm Nunzio, you motherfucker.

I'm son Taylor Swift.

Taylor, I'm going to let you finish. Oh, shit.
I didn't know you had another album. She drops an album at midnight.
Taylor Swift. Love listening to her write songs about how she thinks that 17-year-old would feel.
Oh, hell yes. I'm sitting.
I'm sitting. Paul George.
PG-13. Got the bag.
Big playoff P. He He's got two first names He's got zero last chances left That's my stardom This guy sucks He signed with the Clippers Because he's going to get cut Yeah Fuck PG-13 Alright I got it You didn't take my whole thing So that's good My sleeper Yeah I'm sleeping Chris Carson My sleeper is Chris Carson.
Russell Wilson is overcooked. He cooked too much.
Time to order some Grubhub. Seamless in Seattle.
Feed Chris Carson the rock. Let Chris eat.
Yes, let him eat. All right, what up, guys? It's Frankie Fettuccine.
My start-up is Playoff P as well. Playoff P because Playoff P said he got his trainer back to his MVP form.
Playoff P's never won an MVP. Yeah, I love it.
He's finished top 10 twice in his entire career. I love it.
He's fucking delusional. You need a little bit of crazy in your shit.
I thought I was going crazy in my head. I almost spoke Spanish there.
My bad, my cabeza. I thought I was going local into cabeza because I was like, when did he playoff P win MVP? Oh, yeah, he did it.
All you got to do is you just dropped the last vowel on you. You just say, crazy, my cabeza.
Cabez. My cabeza.
Go ahead. All right, my sit-up is Bob Costas.
Everyone thought he was on Twitter. He's not on Twitter.
Bob Costas hates Twitter. Bob Costas would never be on Twitter.
Also, that wasn't pink eye. You'd have to be a real shithead to fall for that trick.
Holy shit. Can you just? We'll say about it after.
All right. My sleeper is Josh Pastner.
He did the Georgia Tech coach. He had a confetti ball that looked like COVID.
And it was the most awkward thing ever. A pinot? A pinot.
They smashed it. A pinot.
A pinot. A pinot.
A pinot.

A pinot. How we doing?

It's Ricky Romero. My stardom is Jack Harlow's new album.

I haven't listened to it yet, but if

you listened to this on Friday, then you would have

last night. And my other stardom

is Bronco's defense because McCaffrey's out.

And my sit-em is potato salad.

If you like that shit, just

stop fucking around and eat mayo directly out of the pan. Pussy.
My sleeper is Papa John. What the fuck has that sick fuck been up to? I want him under 24-7 surveillance.
Yeah. Papa bless.
God. He's a good, honest, fake Italian.
You're not my father. You know he's not Italian, right? John Schnatter.
John Schnada. He's one of the germs.
Yeah, germs. You can't trust those guys.
They fooled us back in 1930s. Is that it? Yeah.
All right. We got to clean up some things.
One, playoff P literally did say that. He's like, I'm back to my MVP form.
I thought I was seeing things. I things i was like wait did he win a playoff no one mvp no two you guys can come up with new names okay i was giving respect to one of the forbearers legend of the fancy fuck boys ruckers legend nunzio also i like fettuccine alfredo yeah and i just adding on to what hank said about espn plus and the disney plus thing.
You buried the just adding on to what Hank said about ESPN Plus and the Disney Plus thing,

you buried the lead on this one, Hank, because ESPN is starting a new show in January.

It's a new daily morning program on ESPN Plus that will recap the previous night's sports action,

which goes deep on news, highlights, and trending topics.

Whoa.

Can you believe that?

Damn.

Can you believe that?

That's going to be crazy. Get Up the sequel it's it's like sports center mixed with get up i hope it's hosted by mike greenberg i'm excited and it might mike greenberg might do this show during commercial breaks for get up he just might like pull a webcam in front of his face and start his own new show yes um all right so the other one we had to clean up all right bob costas it's just we need to take a second and just realize like bob costas really did do an entire olympics with pink eye yeah like that's just the funniest we should hard worker okay jake we should we should have like a day that we all just remember it can you actually jake can you find the date and we can just do like a 10 minute deep dive on it how funny it was because it's just's just, we just need to every now and then when, when like you're sitting by yourself and your mind wanders, just take it to that place that Bob Costas got in front of America and tried to deny that he had pink eye when he so clearly had pink.
And you got to watch, you got to watch it spread also. Like it started out on just one eye.
It crept across his face. He was, and it'd be one thing if if costas was uh kind of like a talking head that would just you know run the highlights but he was also working in his like geopolitical soliloquies talking about like how certain countries uh aggressive natures towards others can be problematic right and meanwhile it looked like he was odell beckaming the shit out of some cheap hooker oh my god just like it looked like it there was fecal matter all over his face all over his face and then three did you guys see the josh pastner uh thing it was so awkward so he georgia tech won on the road against i think nebraska and uh so he had a pinata a covid pinata he smashes it doesn't smash the first time and then he smashes it and then it's just it's candy but it's like a bunch of like 19 and 20 year olds who are like but it's do you eat the candy yeah it's just candy is it a test to see if you need the the covid candy it was just such a funny ncaa moment where it's like all you can give him is candy uh-huh it'd be funny if it was like airheads and if it was like hand sanitizer inside with masks and shit.
But it's like if it was cash, if it was booze, like all these things it could be. Uh-huh.
And it's like, oh, yeah, that's right. You guys aren't eight years old.
We're not at a birthday party. It was so awkward.
I was thinking it was going to be a watermelon wrapped to look like a virus, and he was going to smash it. And then they would be Vikings.
Yeah. That would be nice.
That would have been nice. By the way, stay woke on the Bob Costas thing.
I'm pretty sure that Putin gave him pink eye. Yeah.
Putin definitely set that up. Costas's powerful inner monologues wouldn't be like spent on the invade.
That's when he invaded like the fucking Ukraine. Yeah.
And so, yeah, he was like, you know what? If we can get Bob Costas off the air, I think people will ignore this. Yeah.
Time wrote an article on February 11th. What's happening with Bob Costas design, how you can avoid it.
And that was, it started the 7th. So that was all right.
So let's put it, put it into the calendar and we'll bring that up. How can February 11th? Yeah.
Don't actually, I want to bring back this day in sports history, too. Should I? There's so much going on.

Maybe this week.

After football season. This week in sports history.

Once a week?

Yeah, once a week.

We'll do a segment.

You got it.

Oh, you want me to do it on the podcast?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I want to talk about it, but it's got to be shit like that.

Like when Joe Pa pooped his pants.

And the car turning on the street.

Just basically anything about poop.

Yeah, yeah.

How do you avoid getting pink eye?

We'll figure it out. No, but you said that this is how you can avoid oh i'd have to read the article don't get in bed with putin yeah that's true all right let's do our website is broken like you can't find old blog so i don't know if this was a joke blog you wrote or it was serious but you wrote an article in 2014 that says bob costas pink eye was allegedly caused by a bad botox procedure oh i remember that that That was, yeah, there was a scuttlebutt that he tried to get a little tune-up right before the Olympics, a little Russian tune-up, and it went haywire and he got pink eye.
Pretty funny. This is a pro Bob Costas podcast.
That would be like the Mount Rushmore of cosmetic surgery gone wrong is Bob Costas and Joe Buck. We'd have to find three and four.
I always thought that. Joan Rivers died.
I always thought that Bob Costas. It's probably not her.
She died from it, I think. If you put.
Tara Reid. Did she? Isn't Joan Rivers alive? No.
You're thinking of her daughter, Joanne Rivers. Yeah.
She was the one. I don't know her daughter's name.
No, it's Melissa Rivers? Melissa Rivers. I have no idea.
That was very sad. She was a very funny comedian.
I'd also like to say for the record, I believe that Bob Costas is a little more squirrely and has a little bit more grit and determination than we give him credit for. Yeah.
I feel like he's got a mean streak. Anyone that stayed in top of their field for as long as Bob Costas has, he's got some bodies buried somewhere.
I was talking about how he would love to just like, there was some debate where it was like Vince McMahon versus Bob Costas. I think Vince McMahon wanted to beat up Bob Costas for something.
I think that Bob Costas could actually survive in a wrestling match against Vince McMahon if it was in a big enough arena. Because he's that resourceful and kind of shady.
And he would just kind of scold him to death. Yeah, just really embarrass him.
You know who you probably haven't thought about in a long time? Who? Matt Lauer. Yeah, for good reason.
Yeah. You were a fan of his? No, he's a sick fuck.
All right, good. Good job, Billy.
You didn't get canceled there. No, you were close.
No, but like Bob Cost is getting hit by Matt Lauer. No, it's true.
We have not thought about Matt Lauer for a very long time. Like, what the fuck? Again, that's probably a good thing that we don't think about.
Can you imagine if Billy had a Matt Lauer lock in his office and he just locked people in and made them listen to him talk about his spreadsheets? Yeah, made him listen to talking about fight policy. Or just said, hey, give me all your ideas so I can plagiarize them later.
Who will I plagiarize? Oh, Billy, that's how you should get money from bankers to invest, is just lock them in a room with you. Be like, I'll let you out, and I'll stop explaining this if you just give me my money.
Actually, we really shouldn't joke about plagiarism. Yeah, you're right.
It's a very serious topic. Anybody listening, plagiarism is serious and can get you in a lot of trouble.
Or it can get you a gig of plagiarism. ESPN.com, and then you can write a book about Trump playing golf.
No plagiarism. Do as I say, not as I do.
Yes. All right, let's get to Booker McFarland.
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USAA! All right, back to part of my take. Okay, here he is, Booger McFarland.
Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend, recurring guest. It is Booger McFarland.
It is nut-crunching time in the NFL. Oh, I should start, by the way.
Apologies for LSU's self-imposed bowl ban. I know they were looking forward to a bowl this year.
Integrity matters. I like that they put their necks on the line.
They said, you know, we're going to live our established values and self-impose this right now. Doing the right thing when no one's looking.
We'll just wash this LSU season away, right? We disagree. Listen, sometimes, man, it's about character.
Like, who are you when no one's watching? Who are you when no one's looking? Are you going to stand up and do the right thing? And I'm just so proud of my institution for self-imposing. Nobody had to tell us, hey, here's your discipline.
We're going to discipline ourselves. So that's the type of institution we have, and I'm proud to be a part of it, buddy.
That's right. You can't spell integrity without grit, Boomer.
Yeah, there we go. Ooh, Boomer.
Oh, yeah, a little Freudian. So you want to start there? Yeah.
Because, like, we've been seeing you. We're a little bit jealous of you, Booger, because you get to hang out with Boomer every week.
Yes. And he comes up with some of the best nicknames that we can't even begin to fathom how he does.
Like the Rodrigo, no, you sunk my blank and ship. Holy shit.
Minshew. Yeah, the Minshew sneeze.
It's art. So what's it like being with Boomer while he's watching the games and while he's coming up with those recaps? Well, so that's the fun part about it is sitting there watching the games because that's when he comes up with all this stuff.
Like, you know, some people think he just does it off the cuff. No, he doesn't do that.
He is sitting in there. So we normally get to what we call the war room, which is a huge room, conference room that's probably got, I don't know, 15, 20 TVs in it.
So we show up there right at kickoff every Sunday, and we watch all the games. And so we're there from about one till about halftime of the second game, so probably about 45, 6 o'clock.
And during that time, he basically kind of talks to everyone and and he kind of bounces ideas and sometimes he's just talking to himself and i've heard him use those names or say nicknames and just to kind of get a reaction from the room and you can tell the ones that are going to stay and the ones that are not yeah what uh what everyone's thinking is what type of uh food are we doing on sunday when when it's when'soger and Boomer hanging out, watching games? Are you guys just going to town? Yeah, so here's the deal. So normally I start off very light, so I'll start off with a salad, just to kind of wet my palate a little bit, get all the burger and bacon from the night before out of there, and then I'll work my way toward some type of wrap.
And then I'll finish up by kind of halftime or midway through the second game with about 16 just fried chicken wings. So it's a slow build.
That is nice. That is.
I like that you go salad and then you just put the salad inside of a wrap so you're eating another salad. Or it's like – Well, basically.
Yeah, it's kind of like an entire meal that's just drawn out over the course of the day.

So you start out with a salad course.

Then you have the lunch course.

And then you have the dinner.

Like the medium courses in between.

You know what?

It's a hell of a lot better than starting your day with six donuts like you do every Saturday.

Once a week.

Seriously.

Once a week.

It's a nice little treat.

Don't hate.

Come on.

It's a dad move.

Also, it's 20.

Listen, once January 1st, 2021 comes around, around i'm gonna be getting serious about my health so i'm just finishing off the stretch here okay okay good for you then yeah yeah you gotta i gotta really earn it in this this last uh few weeks really you know let myself self go um all right let's talk some football first up you were clearly in the conspiracy theory that Greg Williams, Dr. Heat, did that blitz on purpose against the Raiders.
We are in the camp of it's Dr. Heat and you can't change Dr.
Heat. That's what he does.
He brings the heat. Why do you think he did that on purpose? And are you shocked that he got fired almost immediately after? Well, no, I think he did it on purpose based on the fact that he and Adam Gase just don't get along.
And I think if you go back early in the season, I think it's clear based on the comments and them having to have that private meeting that they didn't get along. And so now Gase probably should have fired him at that point, but he decided not to.
And, you know, there's, he had to answer questions with the New York media, et cetera, et cetera. Now you fast forward.
There is only one defensive call that you cannot make in that situation. And that's the one that Greg Williams call.
Like you can call anything else in your playbook and you pretty much guarantee yourself a win. The only way you lose that game is to make the call that Greg Williams made.
And I just think that Greg wanted Adam Gates to wear 0-16 on his resume. There've only been three coaches in the last 50 years going 16 and Adam Gase is trending toward being one of them.
So I just think that he wanted him to wear the Owen 16. Now, could I be wrong? Yeah, possibly.
But I honestly think that Greg Williams just doesn't care for Adam Gase. And I think he knows at the end of the year,'s going to be gone regardless.
Well, all right, so counterpoint, Greg Williams now, you just mentioned three teams have gone 0-16. Greg Williams would then be part of two of those three teams, which that's something he has to wear, and Dr.
Heat. He just brings the heat.
He did it in the playoff game against the 49ers in 2012. We talked about that on Monday.

Like, if he's going to do it in a high-stakes playoff game with a team that's Super Bowl worthy,

of course he's going to do it in this game.

He's Dr. Heat.

Well, okay, you can bring the heat, though.

And I tried to show a couple of examples on Monday Night Countdown.

You can bring the heat without going cover zero.

Cover zero basically means what you're doing is you're saying,

I'm going to roll the dice. If she gets pregnant, she gets pregnant.
That's basically what you're doing, cover zero. But if cover zero works there, Greg Williams is probably thinking in his head, they're going to like Bill Parcells me, Buddy Ryan me, and put me on the shoulders and carry me off the field here.
He couldn't have been thinking that nobody listen everybody everybody that's working for the Jets right now should have their home on Zillow or whatever the whatever the real estate site is because they're all getting fired up there so there's no chance Greg Williams could have ever thought that he was going to be carried off or he's going to have a job pass what January the 3rd oh I think he might might have thought. I think you're underestimating Dr.
Heat a little bit. He is a guy.
He's like, I'm about to be the hero, baby. He's got to lose.
I mean, you read all the reports last year, Booger. He interviewed for like six or seven head coaching jobs.
Four of them just show up. And he said, you know what, I'd rather be the defensive coordinator for the New York Jets as opposed to coaching one of those teams.
So you're underestimating him a little bit. I do agree with Big Cat.
It's like the old story of the frog and the scorpion where the scorpion gets across the river on the frog's back and stings him. The frog's like, why'd you sting me? He's like, because I run fucking cover zero because I'm Dr.
Heat, and that's what I do. So I think that's just Dr.
Heat. I've never heard of that one.
Yeah. Booger now just got up from his office, and now he's driving car.
You walked across the lawn, you got into a car. Where are you going? Listen, I got kids.
I got to drive kids to dance and stuff like that. So it's all good, buddy.
I'm still here. Okay.
Okay. All right.
Are you in a Tesla? What type of car do you drive? No, this is not a Tesla. This is a Range Rover.
Okay. Okay.
This is a Range Rover, just so you know. Let me flip it around.
See, that's a nice little Range Rover dashboard here. It's a six steering wheel.
I like this. I don't run over people.
Let me flip it back around the other way. Yeah, I'm still here.
So come on, let's talk ball. All right, so you're picking up your family.
Your son, Anthony McFarlane Jr., has been balling out a little bit. Well, first of all, that's not my kid.
And if I had a dollar for every time people ask me about that, literally, literally, if I had a dollar for every time people ask me about that, I could quit at ESPN tomorrow. Our darling Jake told us that he was your son.
We were like, I think we would have known about that if that was actually Booger's kid. But he did play against my Washington football team and got smoked.
I want to get your take on the NFC East. The NFC East, to me, I can sum it up really quick, man.
It's amazing how people's judgment of Joe Judge was so off because everybody said Joe Judge was just a Belichick clone, and in reality, Joe Judge actually was kind of his own man, and he was doing what he needed to do for his team. And it's taken him a bit, and Saquon Barkley got hurt.
But if you're looking at who in that division is playing the best, it's the Giants. And it's because of Joe Judge, and the team is starting to kind of take his personality and character, and it's because of their defense, led by Patrick Graham, has been outstanding.
And if old Peyton Manning clone Daniel Jones can stay healthy, man,

they'll win that division.

So we've been talking about Joe Judge,

but I feel like the only thing that we give him credit for is like,

we just know that he's a hard-nosed guy,

that he was doing things like making people run laps.

He was an old-school football guy type guy.

He tried to fight his offensive line coach.

But from like a schematic standpoint, from a football standpoint, what is he doing better now than he was doing at the start of the season? Well, it's the classic case and it's no different than anybody who has a job in America. I want to accentuate what I do well and minimize what I do poorly.
So if Big Cat would ever take a job where he had to take his shirt off, that would be accentuating what he doesn't do well. So Joe Judge is doing the opposite of that.
So he's making sure that they run the football, they play defense, they don't turn the football over. And as long as they do that, man, Patrick Graham is a very good defense coordinator.
They play a lot of man-to-man. Leonard Williams, who was with the Jets up there, now he's with the Giants.
He's playing well. Dexter Lawrence, he's playing well.
The cornerbacks, the guys on the back end are playing well. So they are just getting the best and maximizing their talent defensively.
And offensively, they're just kind of hanging on and not making mistakes, man. And so far, over the last four weeks, I believe they won four in a row, it's working.
sounds like he might be a candidate for coach of the year but you gave it to Mike Tomlin already yes yes now just because you won four in a row I'm not gonna discard those seven L's you took early in the season so let's not go crazy here what about Kevin Stefanski though what about Kevin Stefanski you had Tomlin and Flores as your one two I would say Kevin Stefanski getting the Browns the most wins they've had in 20 years should be in the conversation so here's where I would just push back on Stefanski if I ask you of those three teams we just talked about Steelers Dolphins and Browns in order of talent which team is the most talented Steelers most football Steelers and then Browns and then Dolphins so Stefanski getting the talent to play well like I'll give him credit but that's a talented football team the offensive line is as good as there is in football uh I know OBJ's hurt but Baker a, a former number one pick in the draft, you got Jarvis Landry. So Kevin has got a lot to work with.
Brian Flores, like nobody thought the Dolphins were going to be in this situation. Everybody said they were basically tanking when they took Fitzmagic out and you put two in, and all they've done is just continue to win.
And I think the game on January the 3rd between the Dolphins and the Bills is going to decide the AFC. So I just mousetrapped you because the Giants have clearly the least amount of talent of all those teams.
They're a team that they have lost the most games in the last I think it's four or five years in the NFL and now Joe Judge has them on the precipice of winning the division and going to the playoffs so you just got mousetrapped. Thank you for voting for my guy, Joe Judge.
Luckily, I grew up in a country where I had several mice in the house, and I know how to trap mice. And if you go back to my original statement, you cannot give somebody who lost seven games already the coach of the year just because he won four in a row.
That's like saying, you know what? Man, I lost 30 pounds in the last three months, and then, oh, yeah, but I gained 60 the previous four months before. So, really, it's a net 30 on the gain column.
So, I can't give you coach of the year for that. I would disagree with that because I think most of the time guys would quit on a team when you start that bad.
To get them back, I mean, we don't about it but what about the the best one in ten team of all time kyle shanahan should have won coach of the year that year absolutely they win five in a row to end the season uh-huh that's my coach hey the best one in ten team if kyle shanahan was your coach of the year at one in ten then right now adam gase should probably be the runaway winner for you right now. I mean, he fired Dr.
Heat. So that's like, yes, in the last four days, Adam Gase is my NFL coach of the year until he plays another game.
You can't make a better decision as a coach than to fire Dr. Heat.
Genius. So, wait, but you said that Brian Flores and the Dolphins Because they have so little talent

And they had so little

Well, who was the coach of the Dolphins last year?

Last year?

Well, two years ago it was Adam Gates

No, no, no, last year

So what you're saying is like

You're saying you can't give a guy credit

For getting a good season immediately after a bad one

Because of all the improvement

But you can't split this season into two seasons

And say second half Joe Judge, coach of the year

Mousetrap

Mousetrap

That's right. Let's do – we'll get out of the Mousetraps.
Let's do NFC. So the Saints, I would say, are playing the best ball right now.
The Packers are going to be the number two seed. They might even get the number one if the Saints trip up.
Who's a team, though, that outside of those top two that you could see getting to the Super Bowl from the NFC? Because the NFC is fairly wide open in that respect. NFC is wide open.
I like the couple teams you put at the top. I'm still not giving up on the Buccaneers.
And the reason I say that is because I know what it's like to struggle through a part of the season and then get hot at the right time. When I was an Indy man, we lost four out of our last seven year we won the Super Bowl.
And so it's not about playing the best ball all season. It's about playing the best ball when it counts.
And I think that if Brady and Arians and Leftwich can get on the same page with Gronk and A.B. and all the talent, you know, I was talking to a general manager.
I'm not going to name drop it. I'll just tell you, I was talking to a GM in the league that just says that when you talk about the most talented teams in the league, it's Pittsburgh, it's Kansas City, it's Tampa Bay, it's New Orleans.
Like, they have a ton of talent. So the fact that they're not playing up to par is disappointing, but they still got four games left.
And if they don't just wet the bed, they're going to be in the postseason. And if they get in the postseason, man, talent always wins.
I'm always going to bet on talent before I bet on a great scheme or something. I'm going to bet on Brady and Gronk and Mike Evans and that defense.
I would bet on them figuring it out more than I would them not. So it's good that Jason Light actually likes the talent on his team.
Thanks for confirming that. Maybe Jason Light will get a contract extension like Brandon Bean got today if he keeps acquiring more talent.
Yeah. Yeah.
So much deserved. So let's talk about the Bills real quick.
Let's talk about the AFC picture because I think the Bills right now are playing as good as any team that's not the Kansas City Chiefs. Can you just convince us that the Buffalo Bills have a chance, if they played their best game against the Kansas City Chiefs, could they keep it within 10? I don't have to think.
I can go back and look at the game earlier this season when it was, what, 26-17, and it was raining and like a little baby blizzard up there. You know, you call Greg Williams Dr.
Heat,

I call Josh Allen baby fireball because he hadn't met a throw he didn't like yet.

So as long as baby fireball will remember what color the Bills are wearing,

they got a chance, man.

I don't know if you watched the game Monday night.

Like baby fireball was dealing, man. And maybe he played his best game of his career.

And I like Sean McDermott. I like Leslie Frazierzier i like what they're doing they're a young team but that quarterback is legit man and as long as he uh doesn't turn the ball over i think it helps them that they've seen kansas city again they played them early in the season they lost 26 17 in a rainstorm so i think if and when they step on the field with kansas city they won't be in awe.
Like, they're going to be like, okay, we've played them. We know what their speed is like.
And now we have a better opportunity to beat them. So, yeah, it wouldn't shock me at all if Buffalo is playing Kansas City for the right to go to the Super Bowl.
It would not shock me at all because I think you look at Buffalo, Kansas City, Pittsburgh, I think Indianapolis may be a step down, Tennessee may be a step down, Baltimore may be a step down, but those top three teams, man, I think if on any weekend they played their best ball, either one of those three could win. I love that you still believe in baby fireball.
Even after last year, you called that playoff game, that wild card game was it was josh allen doing everything that he could against the texans throwing hail marys to his fullbacks just running around back there and that the fact that baby fireball did not scar you for life while watching him at his worst and now you've seen him as best now i'm all in now i now i believe that the bills can do it too i think i i want the bills more than anything in the world right now i want the bills to go to the Super Bowl from the AFC. Yeah.
It would be so awesome. Yes.
Why would that? Okay, please tell me why, other than to hear Chris Berman circle the wagons like never before. That's pretty much it.
Well, Josh Allen's a friend of ours. Yeah, we like Josh Allen, and we like Bills Mafia.
I like their defense. I like their receivers.
I like Cole Beasley. I like Diggs.
They're a fun team. It's between Cleveland and Buffalo are the fun stories in the AFC.
They're the franchises that haven't been there in a very long time. Diehard fan bases.
Their fans bleed for their team. They love their team.
They stick with them through really bad times. So the Chiefs are probably going to get there.
But, man, if Buffalo or Cleveland could do it, it would be such an awesome story. Yeah, and isn't it kind of like 2020's perfect ending for a team like Buffalo or a team like – not necessarily Kansas City, Buffalo, Indy, Tennessee, like somebody that hadn't won it in a long time to get in there? To me, that would be the perfect ending to 2020 as up and down and topsy-turvy as 2020 has been.
I'm hoping that this just isn't stock in Kansas City versus Green Bay or New Orleans. Or Minnesota.
You'd go Minnesota versus, which I don't think the Vikings, they might not even make the playoffs, but Minnesota versus Cleveland or Buffalo, and you'd have those franchises win their first Super Bowl of all time. I like it.
I'm not sure why we got to Minnesota, but okay, good. It's just downtrodden fan bases.
Booger, come on. I think what we should be rooting for is either Cleveland or Buffalo against the Seahawks because that would be such a crazy game.
That would be a crazy game. Booger, I got a question for you about Mike Tomlin, your guy.
You played. He was on staff at Tampa Bay when you were there.
You obviously think he's coach of the year. What is it about Mike Tomlin? And he's a fantastic coach, but the numbers don't lie.
When the Steelers are big time favorites going on the road, they usually fall flat. They usually have a flat performance.
They might win the game, but they won't cover the spread when When they're underdogs, they're fired up and they win as underdogs. What is it about Mike Tomlin that that is an imbalance in his coaching? Well, I don't know if it's an imbalance.
I just think Mike Tomlin is the type of coach that thrives on adversity and thrives on being the underdog. And like, there are some people and some coaches, when you tell them they can't't do it then that's when they're going to lock in and do it do it even better it's like when i told you you couldn't get below 250 like i saw a different big cat yep on social media i didn't see you post as many donuts i saw you locking in and look where you are now so it's amazing what the what the brain can do when you tell it it can do something.
I think Mike Tomlin is the same way. Like, he is that guy.
I think Mike went to William & Mary, so he's from a small school, worked his way up. Like, that's just the type of person he is.
And people look at him now because of his expansive vocabulary and how he runs his press conferences. Mike Tomlin likes to get out in the dirt, man.
He likes to get down and be dirty and grimy, and I think he thrives in situations like that. What about what's going on with the other team in Pennsylvania, the Eagles? Jalen Hurts got in.
He's going to start this weekend. And when we were watching – Yeah, not going to be good for him.
Not against the Saints. Not against the Saints.
Tough first start to make. But when we were watching the game, we're dumb.
We're dumb football fans. And even on defense, we were saying that the team has a different energy.
They looked like they were a different team, even when Hurts wasn't on the field, as opposed to knowing that Carson Wentz was their quarterback. Is there anything to that? Like, you get a highly regarded first-day pick, second-day pick that's playing quarterback now for you, and even you on the defensive line, you start to play a little different knowing that you've got that guy coming out.
So here's the deal, man. As a player on a team, the only thing I want every Sunday when I show up is an opportunity to win.
And usually that starts with hope. I got to have hope.
I got at least hope or know I have an opportunity to have a chance to win. And I just don't think that with Carson Wentz, the team had any hope.
I think everyone knew that Carson wasn't playing well and everybody was making excuses for Carson Wentz. And I think once you put Jalen Hurts in the game and everybody says, okay, now we got a guy back there.
He's young. He's going to be inexperienced and make some mistakes.
But at least he can run the football. At least he can make some plays with his legs.
At least he can bring some energy and bring life. Carson just looked like the life was being sucked out of him every single play.
Like every time he threw a pick, he hung his head down. And I get it.
His best friend, Nick Foles, is not there. I get it.
Frank Reich is not there. Like, his inner circle of people that he's leaned on in his career are not there.
And so it almost feels like that he is on that team alone, if you know what I mean. Like, I'm on a team with a bunch of people, but the people that I closely admire and I closely can't confide in, I'm no longer there.
And that's what it seems like he is. And so now the guy, Jalen Hurts, who is one with the team, he's the guy that's in the locker room probably cutting up, clowning, making jokes.
Everybody's talking to him. He's going, and I get it, they can't go anywhere, but he's participating in whatever game they're playing in the locker room.
He almost seems like he's their quarterback, if you know what I mean.

And I think that's why you see that different energy when he comes in

and Carson went out.

Can we try to incept Boomer into creating a nickname for Jalen Hurts?

Like if we tell you something, can you just try to like toss it out there

on Sunday and see if it makes it?

Because I was thinking like the John Cougar Mellencamp song that feels like it would be up Boomer's alley. The Hurts So Good, Come On Baby Make It Hurts So Good.
I love it. I will make sure that gets done.
For you two, I will. Okay, Booger, I have one last question.
The final question is brought to you by Cross Country Mortgage, America's crazy good mortgage company. Go to ccmlens.com slash take to learn more about your future home, buying experience refinancing needs equal housing opportunity mvp it's not rogers just stop it is and here's the reason i say that is because if we're going to judge the mvp based off what you've done and how great you've been don't we have to judge mahomes off what he did his mvp year when he threw 50 touchdowns and he was just absolutely outstanding? Because Aaron Rodgers right now is putting up career numbers.
So he's doing something that he's never done before. I don't know about that.
I don't know about that. I feel like he had an MVP season where he was insane and had like two interceptions the entire year.
I think he's only got like, what, four now, right? Yeah. I'm just saying, I think that he's had years.
I think he's had years like this before. I'll push back on that.
I just think Mahomes, he's just so goddamn good and he's so consistent and they're just like, I, yeah, there, when you watch Mahomes, I just, he's having, he is the MVP of the league in my, he's the player in the league, without a doubt in my mind, and he's the MVP in my mind. Okay, so I want to ask you this, because I think Mahomes has entered the LeBron category, whereas he's clearly the best player in the league, and you could give it to him every year, but doesn't he have to do something special by his standards to get the MVP? Like, LeBron should have won the MVP this year, but they gave it to Giannis based on Giannis having a career year for Giannis.
And I think when you look at Mahomes, yeah, Mahomes is the best player in the league. I agree.
You and I are sharing our brain. But is it a career year for him? I don't think so.
What about baby fireball? Baby fireball. Rodgers went 45-6.
45 touchdown 6 45 touchdowns six interceptions 4600 yards in 2011 that was i mean that was his career year that was well he's kind of on pace to do that right now yeah no well he's got he's got 36 yeah he's got more interception he'll have more interceptions he's got four interceptions already so i would i mean kind of on pace right but this is but he's already done it right so he's not going to be a career year he's already done it it's going to be about equal to a career right but we can't judge mahomes on 50 touchdowns every single oh i don't i don't know about like having patrick mahomes compete against former patrick mahomes for the current rogers is not gonna he might not even beat former rogers if we're doing the same standard well uh he he's pretty close. That was 15 games, by the way.
So how about we give the 2011 MVP award? We can give the MVP award to 2011 Aaron Rodgers. Okay, there you go.
Because he won't beat it. Because he's what? Has he played 12 games already? So he'd have to throw 11 more touchdowns in just three games.
I mean, maybe he will, but I would say he probably, that 2011 will probably be better. Well, he's got four games left.
I'm saying there's another 15 touchdowns in there maybe. You know what I'm saying? In 2011, he only played 15 games.
He didn't play all 16. Yeah, okay.
Nobody cares about the small details. All right, nobody worries about that.
Well, I do. I don't want him winning a fucking MVP.

Big Cat just doesn't want him to play.

Well, Mahomes is better.

Because it's going to be against the Bears.

Mahomes is better.

No, it's in 16th game.

I think that 11-year week he was injured for a game.

Okay, stop.

Time out, time out.

Speaking of the Bears, what the hell is going on with your team?

They suck.

That's what's going on.

Okay.

Oh, okay.

Don't state the obvious, okay?

Let's go a little deeper than that. Okay, fire Matt Nagy, fire Ryan Pace.
Got to get a new quarterback. Got to figure out what to do with this defense because it's probably going to get older before you can get a quarterback in.
It's a full overhaul. They took a shot.
They took a shot. It didn't work out.
I mean, in the NFL, if you trade up for a quarterback or you pick a quarterback with the second pick overall and you get it wrong, you're going to chase that mistake for a decade. So they're in the middle of chasing that mistake.
And it's going to probably be another three, four years before they come out on the other end with a roster that is post. Hey, we we went we pushed our chips in because we thought Mitch was the guy.
He's not the guy. It's going to take a while to get back to that.
Well, so here's the thing I'm saying is that they have nothing that even remotely looks like an identity on offense. And when you have a coach who is an offensive guy who is leading an offense like that, then that tells me that he's probably the problem.
And I don't know whether they're going to fire him or not. I don't know whether or not Ryan Pace is going to fire him or whether both of them are going to get fired.
But I know this, they need a new quarterback. I think that whoever the next coach is probably should get to choose that quarterback.
And if Ryan Pace is barely hanging on, then it's probably time to change. I'm a firm believer of this.
There is never, never, never a wrong time to do the right thing. And so if the right thing to do now is move on away from Mitch, even though you invested so much draft capital in him, then you go ahead and move on and you cut your losses.
Do not throw good money after bad. And find your quarterback because you're right, the defense is getting old, but Roququan Smith is still a good player the cornerback that you guys drafted out of Utah is a really good player you got Fuller uh Hicks if he can lose about 10 pounds over the course of the next couple years he can extend his career he's he's been dominant as always when he's been healthy um Khalil Mack Eddie Jackson yeah I don't I don't know.
Okay, speaking of Khalil Mack, are you satisfied with the trade based on his production relative to what you gave up for him? No, because Khalil Mack, the Khalil Mack trade, you can't look at it in a vacuum because the Khalil Mack trade was based on... With a broom, however the hell you got to look at it.
No, no, I'll explain, I'll explain, I'll explain. On paper, like, if you look at it from afar, you're like, why would you trade that much draft capital for a defensive player who, like, you just don't trade that much draft capital for a defensive player? It makes no sense.
It made sense at the time because you were hoping that Mitch Trubisky was the guy and Khalil Mack was the final piece for a championship window. And I would still contest the Bears, the double doink year.
We don't have to go all the way back in history. But they were playing some of the best football of any team out there.
Like, look at the Rams going to the Super Bowl that year. The Rams went to Chicago a month and a half before, and they fucking kicked the shit out of the Rams.
So, it's pushing all the chips in, hoping that he's the final piece. Because the Mitch thing didn't work out, it now obviously in retrospect, you're like, well, that doesn't make sense.
But the move at the time, I can understand and I support. So I like the Khalil Mack move then, and I still like it because every defense needs an alpha.
Like, you've got to have a guy in the front seven. You probably should have two or three, but you definitely better have one.
And everybody says, okay, we've got to do something different for that dude. And, like, the Bears have Khalil Mack, Hicks, Roquan Smith, which is a pretty good start, you know.
And so there are things there to build around around so i like to move um and then when you look at it relative to how much aaron donnell is making how much miles garrett is making like he is like that contract is kind of right on par with what the top guys are making now and he's still not the highest paid guy so i kind of like where you are right now i'll tell you again that i played the other day all right and I think Chicago should be involved in it, is let's play musical quarterbacks. So let's assume the Jets get the first pick.
They take Trevor Lawrence. So now, where does Sam Darnold go? Sure.
I'd take him. Why not? Why not? Yeah, Chicago feels like a good home.
Maybe Indy. Who knows how much longer Phil Pruvis is going to play? Exactly.
Yeah, Chicago feels like a good home. Maybe Indy.
Who knows how much longer Phil Rivers is going to play? Exactly. Yeah, Chicago, Indy.
But what about McCoy? So I agree. There are going to be quarterbacks out there, but it goes back to I do not trust Ryan Pace, one, to evaluate the quarterback and get the right guy, and Matt Nagy, two, to coach him up.
So you have to overhaul that before, I'm cool with picking up another quarterback. I don't trust the guys in charge to pick up the right quarterback and then coach the right quarterback to whatever he comes in.
He's probably going to have some warts to get those warts off. Speaking of a coach, and I realize I'm going a lot of different places, there's a name that's starting to get a lot of traction early on as we get ready to enter head coach, searching for head coach season.
If I told you in two months Marvin Lewis was the head coach of the Bears, how would you feel? I would fist fight you. I don't think that you should.
So Marvin Lewis is looked at in retrospect. Shut up, PFT.
This guy went 500 for 20 seasons. He was on the football team 30 years ago.
You wouldn't want him as the head coach. No, because we got Ron Rivera.
We got Jack Del Rio jacking off into the river. But Marvin Lewis, he went 500 with the Bengals.
That's pretty fucking over an extended period of time. He won zero playoff games.

No thank you.

Nice guy.

No thank you.

I'm just saying, if I told you Marvin Lewis or Brian Dabo.

Brian Dabo.

Joe Brady.

Eric Biennemi.

Give me any of those guys.

Any of those guys before Marvin Lewis.

The NFL does the retread thing thinking that it's going to work, and it's so stupid. There's so many guys out there like, I just, no, I don't want to do it.
I don't want to do it. We did the John Fox.
We did the retread thing. It didn't work.
It would be a very Chicago move to bring in Marvin Lewis. I kind of hope that it happens.
I know you do, but that's very mean of you What you're doing Listen here's the thing that I would say Is that Marvin Lewis Would be a proven commodity And it's Kind of like when you're gambling I would always Take what I know for sure before I bet on Something that I don't know like Joe Brady Is hot Brian Dayball Is hot Arthur Smith is hot But do we really really know what we're going to get? I don't know. What about Mo Salah? Okay, well, but let me flip that on you.
You could have said the same thing for Sean McVay or Kyle Shanahan. Those are two of the best coaches in the league right now.
If you were going to hire Marvin Lewis, I would say, fuck it, just bring Lovey back, And I'd be fine with that. Honestly.
Honestly.

Listen, Lovey has won his welcome out in the state of Illinois.

Lovey at least beat the Packers.

Like, Lovey beat the Packers at the start of his career.

He beat the Packers.

I would be fine with that.

How many games has Lovey won in Illinois?

That's a work in progress, obviously.

I mean, they're never going to get guys.

Well, I mean, it's been in progress for five years, hasn't it?

Yeah, I mean, they beat Wisconsin last year, highly ranked.

If you're going to go defense, I would take Salah.

I feel like he's the guy that's been –

Bring back Vic Fangio.

They're doing everything they can to get Salah up in Detroit.

I want the Bears to just take the year off.

I want the Bears to not play for a year.

Vic Fangio, you are so sour right now.

You're talking about bring back Vic Fangio.

You are so sour.

Vic Fangio's awesome.

You would be sour too.

The franchise is a joke.

I'll see you next time. You are so sour right now.
You're talking about bring back Vic Fangio. You are so sour.
Vic Fangio's awesome. You would be sour too.
The franchise is a joke. I'm tired.
Just take a year off. Give us all a break for a year.
Seriously, when they don't play, when they're not playing on a Sunday, my day is just so much better. Oh, hilarious.
Because they don't even lose in entertaining fashion. There are some teams out there that will lose, likegers if i was a chargers fan yeah i'd be dejected but at least your games are exciting and they usually come down to it unless you're playing bill belichick and you could be like oh maybe the future yeah maybe the future um i i want to steer you back real quick to the football team then we'll let you go because yes they're good yes their front seven is elite they're a team that's trending in the direction.
But not a lot of people are talking about their quarterback because obviously they've got Dwayne Haskins and they're going to try to trade him or do something with him. And then Alex Smith is old and has like half a leg at this point after last week against Pittsburgh.
So what do you think that the football team is going to try to do to address their quarterback position going into next year? I think that they're going to trade Dwayne Haskins. I think Alex Smith will be there.
He'll be the quarterback next year, and then they will draft a guy because Ron Rivera clearly wants his own quarterback. And I think the Kyle Allen thing will be good to have somebody there to compete.
But at the end of the day, I think they're going to draft a quarterback, whether it's early first round or whenever, has yet to be determined. But I do think Alex Smith gives them an opportunity where they don't have to just reach.
They can find the guy that they want. And, you know, Ron Rivera's a good coach, man.
I like Ron. Like, Ron has been good to me even when he was in – or since he's been in Carolina.
He is a great man. And it just goes to show you, man, when you do the right thing, you treat people right, that, you know, it gives you an opportunity to lead men and men will follow you.
And I think that's what you're seeing in Washington, man, is that, you know, Rivera, I don't think there's a coincidence that he won in Carolina and he's now winning in Washington. Two different organizations, two different teams, obviously.
But I think the consistency is him, how he treats people, and how hard his team plays for him. Good team.
Trending in the right direction. Probably going to win the NFC East.
Before we let you go, we should say, are you doing the ride on Saturday? Yes. Saturday is at what, 11 o'clock you said? 11 a.m.
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I like it. Okay.
I'm going to puke this Saturday. I haven't puked in like six months on that thing.
Well, I mean, yeah, listen, first of all, I need a better effort out of you. You know, now that we got big cats way under control and I can lay off him a little bit, I need a better effort out of you.
You know, now that we got Big Cat's weight under control and I can lay off him a little bit, I need a better effort out of you. Love it.
Yeah, I'm glad that you're just – you have been harsh on Big Cat today. Yeah, he's harsh all the time on me.
You've really been going after his weight. You're always harsh on me.
You're harsh on me on Sunday with your tweet when I went after – Big Cat. Who did I go after? Dalvin Cook.
Listen, well, I mean, you went after Davin Cook, You went after Dalvin Cook and I just hopefully people got the sarcasm. They didn't.
I did, but they didn't. People especially on social media it's like crazy.
I just gave up trying to convince, okay, as long as you got it, I'm good. Yeah, no, I like your social media strategy.
I was looking at your tweets to see what you've been talking about. One guy, you just said to shut the fuck up and go back to his basement.
And I like that. I like that.
Get aggressive on Twitter. Yeah, we love unfiltered boogers.
Yes, yes. Hey, sometimes, man, you got to get aggressive and let these trolls, man, and let the people know, hey, you know, just because I'm a public figure and you guys think and know that I make some money don't mean that, you know, I'm still not a man just like you are or what you aspire to be.
If you say the wrong thing, then I'm going to let you know it. There you go.
I love it. Well, I can't wait to puke on Saturday and then watch you guys on Sunday night maybe slipping in a little jail and hurt so good.
I'm getting short of breath just thinking about that. Listen, if Boomer doesn't slide it in, I'll slide it in for you.
Love it. Love it.
All right. Thanks, Booger.
Appreciate it, man. Anytime, man.
Y'all have a good one, fellas. All right, bud.
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And now, here's Keaton Slovis. And now for something completely different.
All right, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is USC starting quarterback, Keaton Slovis.
We are, you are now initiated into the Pardon My Take world. We did this interview because we're like, all right, Keaton, you're a sophomore.
You're the starting quarterback of USC. You're going to be a pick in the NFL draft.
We want to get in early.

So it's great to have you on.

Where should we start?

Should we start with just – actually, you know what?

Let's start with this.

This is kind of a stupid question, but how fast are you?

That was a great question.

I don't know.

I ran a 4.79 when I was in high school. I like to think I'm a little bit faster now but fast enough is what i like to think you know okay i don't i don't like to run but if i have to i can okay are you still growing uh a little bit i think i'm done now but i grew like half an inch this year okay between this all right because we take our quarterbacks very seriously when you're in the quarterback family a part of my take, it's a huge honor.
Blake Bortles, Joe Burrow. Baker Mayfield.
Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff. But I was thinking about it.
Who are you going to say, Hank? Who did I forget? Josh Allen, of course. Josh Allen, dumb.
That was stupid to me. You kind of look a little bit like Josh Allen.
Have you ever gotten that? No, I haven't, but I guess I'll take you. Yeah, you're like a Cali bro version of Josh Allen.
Yes, yes. Okay, so I asked a fast question because when I was doing a little prep for this interview, I was like, wait, I obviously knew your name.
I watched a lot of college football, but you can't ever get slow because your last name is Slovis. So we need to make sure, like, whatever we do, you have to stay nimble and fast.
Otherwise, our limits only go so far. Like, when people start making Slovis jokes because you're slow, we're out.
Yeah, I definitely took that into account, you know. We have to eliminate that at all costs because there's too much potential there with that nickname.
So I'll definitely work on that speed in the offseason yeah i would i would say speed is more important than even throwing at this point yeah career and really the most important thing right now is um get ready for the combine just so that you can't put up like a four nine or a five a five at the combine because at that point nfl scouts will just look at that see your name and then boom you boom, you're in the third round before you know it. Yes.
That's definitely how we evaluate. So I need to get at least below sub 4A, I think, is what I think we can easy target for.
Okay. I like it.
Me and Big Cat, we're talking to Matt Leiner. Would you call him a colleague, protege, just some rando, weird townie that hangs around the program a lot? Booster know i i've looked up to him for a while you know i think because i didn't really grow up an sc fan but he uh he got drafted by cardinals i was a big fan of his before he got drafted then he got drafted so i actually have a matt liner cardinals jersey um so big fan of his i guess you could say so we were talking to him he was pre a little bit, uh, with some fun facts about you.
He told us that you, you were a tuba player. Is your, is your tuba career officially, are you on hiatus? Are you officially retired from playing the tuba? Are you going to come back? I won't put myself out yet.
I guess I'm on hiatus because, um, we're actually doing the interview with him on Fox and he brought a guitar cause he thought I was learning guitar. I was like, I can't really play could play tuba you know so I just need to get the instrument in my hands I think again maybe refresh a little bit but I think I could make something happen there maybe in the future if football doesn't go my way.
So you just said something interesting you know you didn't grow up an SC fan you also were a three-star coming out of high school you weren't like recruited by a ton of powerhouses was it the minute you got onto sc campus because you know usc quarterbacks you think of quarterbacks five-star quarterbacks were you intimidated at all like hey i'm a three-star i probably won't start right away obviously uh jt daniels gets hurt but what was that thought process like hey i just want to be at us. I don't really care about playing time right away and everything will work out.
Yeah, honestly, so I didn't play. I didn't start in high school until I was a junior.
So I kind of felt I was behind the eight ball from the get go. You know, most kids get recruited as a sophomore or as a junior.
Like they already have enough tape, you know. So going into my junior year, I thought I wouldn't get the opportunity to go to a blue blood type school like USC so by the time they did offer me I didn't have a whole lot of offers but I had a little bit of momentum and USC did offer me and you know I remember kind of saying to my dad like you know like you might need to jump on this because I felt like it was kind of late in the recruiting process and you know shoot it's USC and I kind of thought I was good enough as it was that I just needed an opportunity to go to a school like that.
Then once I get there, I can kind of prove myself. Yes.
It's strange because I don't think you were recruited by ASU until after it was basically too late, right? Would you have gone to Arizona State? Probably not. I didn't grow up like an Arizona State fan really, but it did feel like that was kind of the school that should have been recruiting me first.
You know, it felt weird that, you know, Southern California came in and offered me. Even NC State came in, and they were actually my first Power Five offer.
So definitely felt a little bit slighted at the time, but I don't think it really would have changed my decision. I like that, though.
A little bit of a bet on yourself moment. So last year, JT Daniels gets hurt against Fresno State.
You end up up playing the whole year uh i i would assume like last year is kind of you're playing without expectations what was it like this year throw covet out uh which by the way thank you for writing the uh letter to the governor and getting pac-12 back i'm gonna give you credit for that you're the suryat of the west uh what was it like though like with expectations how does it feel going into a season as a starting quarterback at USC? I feel like that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, it's definitely different.
You know, I think as a backup, I came in, no one knew who I was. And honestly, I think most people kind of expected me to go out and suck.
I did. Oh, I did.
When you came in, I was like, I actually bet against you guys against Utah because I was like, fucking keaton slovis who the fuck is this oh no i i bet on him because of the name because of the name in fact i was like you suck dude i was like keaton that guy's good in fact i think my dog might have my dead dog reported that jt daniels was out and you were getting the first start so i guess really yeah i think he gave you your start out west um i even forgot what big cut just finished asking well i was yeah so like when you come in and you're a true freshman and you're playing right away uh did you even have a second to be like holy fuck this is a lot like or was it just let's let's go and roll it's kind of like yeah i guess so like you're playing with house at that point right like you didn't expect to play you get a great opportunity so let's roll with it um and honestly i think that's kind of an easier way to get going versus like this year i think um i was pressing a little bit to start the year just because you know you feel that pressure of being the guy and having those expectations um so i kind of sat back and was like you know you'd have the same mindset as last year just go and have fun with it and i think that's the biggest thing like when you're in high school you're playing in front of a few few thousand people maybe at most you know I think you go to college you don't realize how it's a big jump and big difference you know so I think that's a lot of kids can kind of get caught in that that kind of trap of getting caught with the pressure and feeling that but I try to avoid it as much as I can really here's kind of a simple question but I think a lot of people of people are thinking this. When we're talking to somebody who is the quarterback at USC, do you ever stop and look around and just be like, damn, my life is awesome.
I'm the starting quarterback at University of Southern California. Yeah, sometimes.
Because it's something, as a kid, you're like, man, this is my goal. I want to be here.
I want to be a starting quarterback at a big-time school. So sometimes I kind of sit back and think man it's pretty cool that you know we made it here but you know I still have further way to go I don't just want to be the quarterback USC and have that be it you know so um kind of want to keep things in perspective and my life really hasn't changed a whole lot um on a day-to-day basis so really things aren't that different yeah that's it like if if you were to ask most people they'd be like man if i could do it all over again i'd go back and be the starting quarterback at usc and live in la and just live the life that's like the ultimate college bros dream life that you're living right now so sometimes you might not get you might not notice it in the moment but you should stop and take a mental snapshot sometimes be like this kicks ass i definitely will definitely more more so now than that you mentioned i definitely will think about it more often how uh do you still keep in touch with kurt warner who was your coach in high school which let's talk about that for a second i mean was it was it just like oh he's coach or were you guys like this is fucking kurt warner like he's a he's a hall of famer that must have been a little bit of a a trip to have that and do you do you still like talk to him does he still give you tips and everything yeah so he uh he he moved into the district like the school district um when I was in like middle school um his kids moved into the school so he has a daughter my age he has a bunch of kids but um he's a son that's a couple years younger than me and a son that's a couple years older than me so when when they were like at our school district, he started coaching at the high school.
And I was kind of like thinking, man, it'd be pretty cool to go play for Kurt Warner in high school, you know, like be a quarterback under him. He ended up coaching there until I left.
And he still texts me now. But that was the coolest thing about playing with Kurt is he had like a, he had an older son who's a receiver.
Actually he's at Nebraska now, Cade Warner. And so, you know,

whenever Cade needed to throw or, you know,

Kurt would need someone to throw at his house, you know,

I'd always try to jump on that opportunity and just learn from him as much as I can. And, you know, still like last summer, really right,

right before quarantine and stuff,

I still went over to his house and we threw a little bit and just,

just pretty cool to have that kind of person in your life. yeah did did Kurt ever get out there on the practice field and like show you guys how to take the reps and actually like step in and take live drills with the ones um see that's the thing like in practice Kurt won't really like throw like kind of just like flick it and then we had this one I think it was like flag football tournament it was like a Thanksgiving type day like flag football tournament with our entire team and he had like everyone had like like I was a team a quarterback one team the head coach was a quarterback another team and he took one team was quarterback man he walked out there with the gloves on and everything like pleats like 2009 or whenever the last time he played and he was I've never seen him like turn it on like It was really impressive.
How far do you think he can throw right now? See, I don't know. Kurt never could really throw that far in the first place.
He could probably throw it 50-60 yards. That's the thing, though.
He just keeps it in here and just kind of flicks it, and it spins nice, but he just picks people apart. Did he ever try to convince you to wear two gloves?

Because I know that not many quarterbacks do.

I know Big Ben does it sometimes.

Kurt used to do it even when it was like 75 degrees out.

I guess he liked the feeling of two gloves on.

But I feel like if you're Kurt, you have to try to recruit new quarterbacks to have that look so that people just don't always make fun of you for being the guy.

He did.

So there was one game in high school I sp like, sprained my wrist on my throwing hand.

So for the next game, I can't really, like, squeeze the balls tight. So he gave me one of his gloves.
I wore it for, like, a drive, and then I couldn't do it, man. I tried.
I really did. But I took it off after that first drive.
But I got Teddy Two Gloves is repping the brand pretty strong right now. Yes.
But you probably got to do a little bit more work to get more people on his regiment there. So your offensive coordinator, Graham Harrell, I think you have a pretty good relationship with him.
I actually – he was very gracious when Dougs went to USC as offensive coordinator during quarantine. I appreciate, by the way, USC is the only school that hasn't had the Doug's curse.
Florida State, Tennessee, Toledo, Texas Tech have all had very bad seasons. So we'll keep that going.
But Graham Harrell, how many times has he made you watch the Texas Tech-Texas game with the famous Crabtree catch? I imagine Graham Harrell ends every film session like, hey, let's pop this tape in real quick and let's let's watch this night see it's pretty funny because like i remember it's like his first week there at school and he's like you know we run because they run four verticals i was a play and he just back shouldered at the cavalry cap crabtree so he's like you know against texas this is the kind of look we had you know that throw i made and everyone everyone's kind of looking at him like what like no one said a word and in my head i'm like i know exactly what he's talking about and so no one said like a word and i don't think like maybe the kids now are too young or something but i was like the youngest one in the room and i knew he's talking about so i went to him after and i was like you're talking about like the the texas tech texas game where you guys won right he's like yeah no one even knew what i was talking about like, yeah, I got you. Then every time we have like a back shoulder throw, he's like, yeah, like that one I made to grab back in the day.
That must suck for him to have that moment of realization like shit. Because that, I mean, that game was so great that if I were Graham Harrell, I would just be, I'd probably just walk around with like a, like an iPad strapped to my neck, just playing it on loop.
So, I guess he's probably being gracious just throwing it in there like, oh, yeah, back shoulder to Crabtree. But I love that he still is bringing it up.
He should bring it up. Yeah.
Well, when I, like, when I tell people, like, you know, my coach is Graham Harrell, usually they're like, who? And then I'm like, you know, the guy who beat Texas. And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, I kind of remember that.
So, that's kind of like, that's kind of like he needs like a patch or something that's like i beat texas yeah yeah whatever year it was yeah number one texas that's kind of how he throws it out there the first time he'll mention it all nonchalant and just see if anybody picks up on it and then maybe over the course the relationship he gets he lays it on thicker and thicker until people yeah like give him the respect that he's due that reminds me of the game against texas like oh what game against he was um he was a guy that he didn't use to grip the laces on the football, right? It was just like they'd snap the ball to him, and he was in Mike Leach's offense, and Mike Leach would just tell him, throw the ball immediately once you get it. Has he tried to instill any of Mike Leach's weird – can you hear sometimes Mike Leach talking through Graham Harrell's mouth when he's coaching you? Sometimes.
He has some weird sayings that he definitely brings from Leach. He has some really good stories, too.
I'm sure he can tell them better than me. But the funny thing, like, Leach doesn't – like, he doesn't play football.
Like, he doesn't play quarterback. So, like, he said when he played with Leach, he wouldn't – like, they didn't have any footwork.
So he just kind of, like, dropped back and do whatever he wanted. And, like, whenever they did individual drills, drills you just go do whatever you want with the quarterback so i always thought that was funny because now like graham's super strict with the footwork but when he was his leech he just said yeah just throw it you know like find the open rip it yeah it's like a kid growing up with hippie parents that becomes an accountant like rebel that's how you rebel against the authority you're like you get more strict with things sometimes Yes.
So, all right. so Keaton, so you're in our program now.
Because of that, I have to at least air out any tweets I had in my past. So I did have one.
I looked it up. Against Oregon last year, you guys get out to a 10-0 lead, and I tweeted in the first quarter, is Keaton Slovis good? And then you guys got absolutely smoked the rest of the game, and I just replied, nope.
So that's just out on the table, okay? I just want you to know that that's there so you can see it. I'm motivating you.
Some may say I might have jinxed you, whatever it may be. But now we move forward.
No, I appreciate that. I do have to salute my cousin, Kyle slovis for i think he defended me in your replies i actually saw it because he he responded and he was like no baby cat he's actually good trust me so he's got my back i do appreciate that's that's just classic you know you have to have a take on twitter all the time and sometimes it just so happens that it's like a 19 or 20 year old kid that you're making like a lifetime judgment on based on like one quarter of football, which is that's basically your job.
And when you say that, it sounds really strange. But I'm always fascinated by the guys that like tweet at you when you're a senior or a junior in college.
And they're like, hey, come to my school. Like, did you have did you you have grown adults being like, hey, come to Utah?

Hey, come to Colorado and play football?

And if so, did that actually make you not want to go to their school?

See, I see it all the time because I know what you're talking about.

These recruits and these people on Twitter who have weird cult followings of these schools.

Oregon has a big one.

CU has a big one now that they're undefeated.

They have a lot of people talking. But I just wasn't, like, cool enough or recruited enough out of high school to get that.
So I think actually when I committed to SC, a lot of people were like, man, like, he's only three-star. Like, don't come here.
So I think it was more negative when I was trying to go to USC, but never had, like, a whole lot of positives. You undersold how ride or die your cousin is.
He replied, come on, big cat. Kid is elite.
So he had you as already elite. And then someone replied, he's good, but I heard his cousin is a chotch.
So that was good that he got a little there. That was at not Keaton Slovis.
That was your burner account. Yeah, yeah.
How's, by the way, how's the funny bone? You hurt your funny bone on Sunday night. The funny bone is good.
It was weird, man. Like, so I fell on – like, I got sacked, and I didn't, like, think anything.
I tossed the ball to the ref, and my hand, like – you know when your hand falls asleep, it just feels like it's, like, numb, right? So my whole entire, like, hand is – like, feels that way, and I look down, and, like, I can't move my fingers. And I'm kind of, like, looking at the ref, and he's like, do you need a timeout? And I was like, I don't know.
Because it's my know because it's my left hand too like I don't really need it you know I just need to catch the snap so they look at it after a few minutes it started loosening up but it's fine I don't know what that's never happened to me before that was kind of a weird thing but yeah it's just great that in the post game you're like yeah I hurt my funny bone like literally the injury was a funny bone injury on a football field it's weird man i don't know how to describe it um all right so my last question for you i had uh was do you look so 2022 you are right now like it's very early we love doing the pre-draft stuff but there are some publications that have said number one pick 2022 do you read that at all do you look at that? I mean, you have to, right? I don't look for it, but people will send it to me. So that's how it usually goes.
That's rat poison. That's rat poison.
You can't have that. I know.
I know. That's why I try not to like, hey, don't send.
I tell people don't send me stuff, but they do it anyway. But there's a lot of football ahead.
So that's why I always tell them like we got this season it's not even over yet so we'll get there when we get do you need somebody to trash you does that motivate you when you read something negative about yourself um yeah yeah it does we can have that so we guys trash me you shouldn't take me under like the the pmt banner yet well no you are but we're taking you under our banner by trashing you. We actually have an intern, Billy.

I was going to say we have a perfect person.

Whether you know it or not, Hank already hates you

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That's true, but also Hank doesn't know how to write,

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especially their bodies.

Especially for a guy who didn't play.

Yeah, so we can stick him on you and have him just do a recurring blog series of all the mistakes that you made in each game. Just so that you have always like a chip on your shoulder.
That'd be great. You know, like say something about like my funny bone isn't strong enough or I don't know, but have him go after me.
That'd be great. Well, selfishly, we need to get you bumped down a little bit.
So that way then when you get the number one pick, can say it was our doing because we you know we'll do a draft keaton slovis and and then we'll be like oh we'll take all credit for it so you starting at one doesn't really help us right and you can kind of be like you know we were at the bandwagon when he like wasn't the number one yeah you know we got in early we got in right now i have you mid second round and that's just because you maybe

maybe that's because you quit the tuba and you have no follow-through maybe maybe maybe all right man well this has been awesome we appreciate it you are part of the crew uh good luck with the rest of the season maybe we'll talk to you in the off season also credit to you i feel like you went from arizona to california and you immediately got there it is the hair and the Cali hair.

You, on command, you just messed with your hair perfectly.

Did that... I feel like you went from Arizona to California and you immediately got, there it is, the hair, the Cali hair.

On command, you just messed with your hair perfectly.

Was that like you showed up on campus and all of a sudden your hair just

started looking awesome?

I think it's been awesome for a while.

Arizona's slept on, I think, a little bit.

It's not that bad of a place, but definitely makes it a little bit lighter

in the California sun.

That's a ringing endorsement.

Not that bad of a place.

What's the difference between Arizona bros and Cali bros?

See, I hate saying this because I love my guys in Arizona,

but I feel like Arizona wants to be California,

but they're just not.

They're not.

That's the only way to describe it.

They think they're West Coast,

but they're just really too far east to be. True.
Yeah. Can you explain to us real quick what the hell goes wrong with the clocks in Arizona? With the what? With the clocks.
Why are the clocks always different in Arizona than in every other country? So we don't have daily savings. Us and, like, Indiana, I think they're the only states that don't have it.
I kind of like it. But when I went here here it weirded me out because i'm not used to it so like i think it was actually we had the 9 a.m game so we had like mock game week for the 9 a.m game and then the next week daylight savings time so it was a completely different like sun location in the stadium it was it threw me off but um oh it's not bad it's it's kind of nice having the sun out a decent hour of the day.
Yeah, that 9 a.m. game, was that just so bizarre? Yeah, I don't want to play another one, but we'll see what happens.
You guys are. You're definitely going to have to play another one.
That's going to be here to stay for the Pac-12. Yeah, unfortunately, I think you're right.
Yeah, yeah. All right, well, Keaton, thank you so much, man.
We appreciate it. it welcome to uh the crew if you start to suck there won't be like a letter or anything we'll just stop talking about you no goodbye or see you later just know that that's out there but otherwise you're in awesome all right man thanks so much appreciate it thanks for having me all right see ya that interview with keaton slovis was brought to you by our great friends over at CBDMD.
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We've got Fyre Fest of the Week. Fyre Fest of the Week.
Henry, would you like to start? Sure. My Fyre Fest of the Week is that Norman, my puppy.
With the big dick. My big dick doggy dog.
He has gotten to the age. I don't know if this is an age thing.
I don't know if this is something I have to figure out going forward. But every time there's a dog on TV, a lot of commercials.
Like there's a State Farm commercial with Aaron Rodgers and dogs, and every time it comes on, he goes absolutely fucking crazy. So he's not very smart.
Is that? I mean, he's a puppy. Your dog thinks that dogs live inside a box that hangs on your wall? Right.
Is this something? You guys are dog owners? What? Sorry. Excuse me, Hank? You guys low blow.
No, I'm saying it. You guys have experienced.
That was really messed up. That was so funny.
You guys have experienced having a dog. When you were showing pictures of Leroy on Twitter when he died to your Normie, was Norman barking at your phone? Mm-hmm.
He was crying to my phone. Well, Stella's a very serious dog, takes herself very serious.
Thinks she is... Her job is to guard me and guard the world.
So, no, she does not know... Like, the TV, she knows it's a TV.
She doesn't give a shit. What about if there's, like, a doorbell on TV? Does that fuck with you? No.
Now, doorbells, she's not so happy about. Do you have a doorbell on your apartment that you live in right now? Yes.
Does it go crazy? No one comes to the door. Oh, sorry you don't have any friends.
We can change that. What's your address? It is...
No, don't say it. Don't say it, dude.
Don't say it, Hank. Don't say that.
There's so many people who want to fight Billy right now. Alright.
That's good Fyre Fest. Yeah.
Is that like something that's gonna just... Yeah, I'm sure your dog will get smarter.
My dog's stupid as fuck. Hank, you have to read to your dog.
I wonder where he gets it from. No, but he like.
Dude, it's in the genes. Yeah, Hank, just read to Norman.
And maybe like watch some TV shows that have dogs with him. Explain it to him.

No, that's the problem.

There's an HBO show with animals and I can't

watch it. I like the show and I can't even watch it.

That's a fire fest.

I know. His dark materials.

That is a true fire fest.

My fire fest of the week is I bought

a Christmas tree yesterday.

That's great. It's wonderful.

I love the holidays. I love Christmas trees.
You guys know that about me. I love Fraser Furs.
Went out, got a nice eight-footer. Do you guys know how much an eight-foot tree costs in New York City? $75.
When I sold them back in the D.C. area, I know it was, you know.
1990s. Five years ago.
1990s. It was 59..
Yeah, it was, that's what I said. It was five years ago.
It was five. It was 59.99 to get an eight foot Fraser fir.
Well, this is New York. It is.
Best trees in the world. So 120.
Yeah. No, $300.
It was $300. Yeah.
It cost me $300. I'm not sure.
I'm not shocked. And I like a situation not shocked Dude because they know that you can't go anywhere too Like you can't go to You can't travel I even told the guy I used to be in the biz And he was like oh okay here's a discount Friends and family discount Well if we want to go down that route I also had to buy a stand And then there's taxes on there So it was $40 out the door jesus christ yeah and i didn't think to ask until after he had already cut the bottom off and bailed it up and uh i didn't want to seem like a grinch no you have to pay for it then they got you yeah you you cut it you buy it that's what they say yep and so i walked home with a 300 tree damn you've got to keep it up until like April at least now.

Oh, I'm not throwing that tree.

That tree lives in my apartment now.

Damn.

That is a feature of my apartment.

I'm going to plant it into the floorboard.

Yes.

So I think that's a pretty decent fire fest.

There used to be a bar I'd go to in Madison that the whole feature, it was called Paul's Club,

the whole feature was there was just a tree in the middle of the bar.

I like that.

That was it.

There are bars in different cities, too, that their shtick is always like it's Christmas year round. No, it was just a tree in the middle of the bar.
I like that. That was it.
There are bars in different cities, too, that their shtick is always like it's Christmas year round. No, it's just a tree in the middle of the bar.
It was in the ground. Yeah.
I don't know if it was. I was always drunk, so it might have been fake, but it was literally the tree was just the middle.
It was a huge fucking tree. Uh-huh.
Common ground. Yeah.
All right. My fire fest is I've done a terrible job as a father because my son is plagiarizing.

Not my actual son.

No, I'm.

Billy Football.

I don't actually know.

This is like we can't joke about this because as many people know in colleges across America,

there's people who will legit report you to the honor committee.

For plagiarizing Bryce Hall?

No, for not.

For like for no reason at all.

You plagiarized Bryce Hall's brain though. It's almost.
And stereotypes. I don't know.
It's brain plagiarizing Bryce Hall? No, for no reason at all. You plagiarized Bryce Hall's brain, though.
It's almost brain plagiarism. I don't know.
I have no idea. I did not plagiarize Bryce Hall.
Where have I gone wrong? What have I done wrong? You stole the idea. Did I say I love you? I say I love you every day.
Your father loves you, but we're disappointed in you. This is, I mean, originally, then Bryce Hall plagiarized PFT.
You came up with a fighting app. But you may have plagiarized that from Rumbler.
What are you talking about? You're spinning. You came up with...
Wait, you're blaming me? I was on your side. I know, but one of your drunk ideas was coming up with the app, which I now retroactively remember.
So you stole from PFT? No, I retroactively remember. I retroactively remember.
You stole an idea from me. I didn't steal your idea.
I retroactively remember. I retroactively remember.
So you stole from PFT? No, you retroactively remember. That I retroactively remember.
You stole an idea from me. I didn't steal your idea.
I didn't. I don't even remember.
I retroactively, what I thought of it. Is this like when Andy Pettit was like, yeah, I did steroids, I retroactively remembered it? I misremembered.
Well, I mean, it's not that, I mean. No, that's actually a genius.
I applied it. You can get out of, like, if you lie about anything, you can just get out of it being like, well, now that you say it, I retroactively remember.

Wait, there's a website called Rumbler?

Yeah, it's like a joke.

I think it was like an SNL skit.

Okay.

People have been sending me every.

No, I didn't.

But that was like 10 years ago.

So now I have to run everything that you say through a plagiarism fund.

No.

Correct.

No.

Yeah.

No.

Let's look up.

Original thought.

Let's look up.

Would you say potato salad is what? Potato. Let's see.
Potato salad has been in the news. You're a creep.
Potato salad. Mm-hmm.
Do you have a fire fest? Mayonnaise. Yeah.
On behalf of all college football fans, we are losing the SEC on CBS theme song. Yeah.
2024. Yeah.

ESPN.

No, I thought it's tomorrow.

It's next year.

Wasn't that the announcement?

I thought the 10 year contract starts in 2024.

We're right.

But I thought the announcement tonight.

We knew that we were losing it.

Right.

But now it's official.

No, but it was always official.

Okay.

Did ESPN buy out the last remaining years?

I'm not sure. That I think was the question.
Regardless, we're losing it. We might be losing it, like, tomorrow.
What, the music? Yeah. They should buy it.
I've been warning people about this for, like, three years. I was going to say, remember that one time over the summer I was really excited about SEC football coming back? And I told you.
I started singing the song, and you totally killed the mood in the podcast because you were just depressed because of the song. Because I've been like, hey, guys, we got to be ready for this.
It's going to really suck. It's a great song.
It's going to really, really suck. I found a little Thanksgiving tweet here from my friend Dragonfly Jones on Twitter.
Bill, you probably follow him. He said, potato salad is an abomination before God.
What serial killer one day thought I'm going to mash up boiled potatoes and some boiled eggs with mustard, mayonnaise, vinegar and onions, but that isn't disgusting enough. Let me refrigerate this shit so I can eat it cold.
I'm in front of my friend who I posted a picture of my bacon, egg, and cheese on Twitter and he goes, yo, that bacon, egg, and cheese is trash. And I text it back, yo, what the fuck are you eating? And he goes, I'm eating potato salad.
I'm like, that's's fucking disgusting I actually have those tweets on my phone and that's where I'm like I've basically been saying it so I can fuck with my friend okay alright so now alright so we're only gonna so Jake you are right I thought they were making a big announcement tonight that I thought was going to be that they were buying them out early but it turns out the announcement was just that this contract was happening which we all knew richard deitch said the only year that cbs would even contemplate giving up is the final one and it's highly unlikely so we have until 2024 with the cbs uh sec on cbs you cherish it like you said with uh football four more weeks remember this moment get your fours up for four years what if they just like the first week back they didn't have the music, but the curtain gets pulled to the side and Vern's there? Yes. Or what they should do, if they're really nice, they should slowly change the music over the next three years to wean us off.
That's a brilliant move because it's so good right now. Yeah, start mixing it with other songs so that way by 2023 we're like, what even is this song? And then we won't even remember that we lost it.
It'll just be eventually Mike Greenberg saying welcome to the SEC on ESPN. Right.
Alright, Billy, Firefest? Yeah, I almost know I'm going to be honest. I almost lost you a lot of money.
Why? Well, I was picking up your car today. And I went.
Everything went smoothly. Pulled into the spot in front of the office.
And then I opened the door. Was checking my keys to make sure I had your car keys.
And your credit card for the parking thing. And I couldn't find your credit card.
Oh. So then I was like, oh shit.
Last time I had the credit card was back at the parking lot. I got to make sure that it's, if it's there, I get to it first because people take credit cards and like run up the fucking charges.
So I ran back to the parking lot, couldn't find it there. Yep.
In my seat. Ran back.
You wouldn't have lost that much money, but I appreciate it. I would have just canceled it.
It have freaked out I was terrified we would have led with that on the podcast Big Cat doesn't have a credit card for the next day and a half no but I was tweaking out in my head I was like oh my god I'm going to lose it I appreciate freaked out. I appreciate that, Billy.
All right, let's do numbers. Send everyone off.
I'm eight as always. Remember, really enjoy this weekend.
I'm going to go with 73. 72.
Billy, people have been telling me that I'm going to damage my back if I only work out the right side of my body. Say a number, Billy.

Is that true?

One.

It's never going to hit. Jake, 18.
I'm trying not to get it. Is that true, Billy? 36 is Liam.
50. Whoa.
50 on the dot. 50 burger.
50 burger. All right, we'll see everyone on Monday.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah,.
Pigeons can fly home no matter where you take them on the whole planet.

Love you guys.

So carrier pigeons were very useful in both world wars.

Love you guys.

For carrying messages. Thank you.
I'll be coming for your love. Stay home.

Stay home. Stay home.

I'll be fine. Before So needless to say I'm out of the net Thank you.
It's okay, stay after me It's no better to safety So take on me Take me off Oh I'll be gone

In a day All the things that you said Is it life Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember Staying away I'll be coming for you, darling So take down me See me on I'll be gone.

I'll be gone. The dance The dance Thank you.