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You get $10 for free, $10 for the AS to ASPCA today is Wednesday August 5th guys I'm just happy I'm just happy it's good I'm just watching to hear you back I'm just watching sports in the middle of the day I'm like at noon game start I'm just happy yeah my only issue is they kind of all blur together doesn't matter I wish I had a second screen Devin booker hit a fucking sick uh buzzer beater you know what awesome i'm i'm on board the devin booker train just watching his body language after he made the shot he basically went to sleep the shot no fear the shot went in and he didn't celebrate his head went down on the hardwood and he just closed his eyes like a person like that that has and he got and he got Yeah, it was an N1. The refs blew that one.
But a person that reacts like that, that guy is a dude. Just don't send him a double team in off-season scrimmages.
Yes, and don't let him tweet. Don't let him tweet.
But the Suns, yeah, I mean, everything's been great. The Suns are actually 3-0.
They're not going to make the playoffs, but it's cool to see young players.

Everyone's playing really well.

And then you've got hockey, which I forgot how much it sucks to stay up

until 1 in the morning to watch your team lose, but even that I did

with a smile on my face because I was like, you know what?

It's okay because I can cut myself and I bleed again.

I'm not prepared for overtime playoff hockey for meaningful games yet. I saw the Caps get into an overtime game yesterday against the Lightning.
That game doesn't really count for anything besides seeding. So it's not a true adrenaline rush that you normally get.
We're either going to survive or die at the end of it. But still, it gave me a little taste.
And now I'm afraid, again, of overtime hockey. So all is right in the world.
Yes, all world yes all is right in the world i had um so i was staying up till like one in the morning to watch the blackhawks i had two kind of dumb half sleep ideas one was why why aren't we just doing the ncaa tournament right now like if someone something to do with school who cares school yeah hey whoever wants to win the presidential

election just pay for it like that would be pretty good or how about put them in a bubble and let's just do the ncaa tournament just have uh jim nance show up in a gym and whoever shows up they get to compete yeah winner gets his tie i'm good with that just maybe do the 16 top 16 teams i don't know well duke's already out yeah that's true duke has eliminated themselves but we're basically watching NCAA tournament with basketball all day.

Like, just's already out. Yeah, that's true.
Duke has eliminated themselves. But we're basically watching NCAA tournament with basketball all day.
Like, just send the college teams. Let's just fucking do it.
Can someone explain to me, going back to hockey, the difference between the ice in Edmonton and the ice in Toronto? Because the Toronto ice sucks. Toronto ice is soupy-choppy.
It's like iced soup. It's like a stew almost.
I think that's due to the Zambonis. But the other part is when you play three games a day there, it sucks even more at the end of the night.
They got bad Zambonis out in Toronto? That's what people are telling me. Yeah.
Okay. I think it's also just further south.
So it gets soupier as you get southern. During the day, the sun is directly over the arena.
So it makes it hotter inside there it's nice and cool i love the hat trick though the hat trick where they had the production assistant walk down onto the ice carrying a single hat in her hand and threw it over the over the glass onto the ice they should get a t-shirt cannon they should have a t-shirt cannon installed up in the broadcast booth and they can just fire hats onto the ice from like a gatling gun it's also so funny hockey is a similar sport hockey and baseball are similar sports where like if you see a basketball or football player like those guys are are just they're either tall they're they're huge they're they're built when you're watching hockey or baseball like i was watching uh the hawks game last night conor mcdavid had a a hat trick and they did like a weird training with conor weird training with Conor McDavid during the quarantine. He was doing squats with his dog.
And I just looked at him. I was like, this guy? This guy's one of the best hockey players in the world? Because he just looks like a regular dude.
But he's fucking good. He's really good.
Hockey players are built different. Unfairly good.
So my other high, weird idea was how crazy would it be ron artest was still playing the nba that he would go nuts he would no because of the the jersey oh i thought you're talking about no fans for him to go no no he goes into the stands and he just treats it like office space and starts smashing equipment he'd be like peace world peace oh yeah peace i don't know why i just thought of that i thought of it like 12 in the morning i. I was just like, whoa, that'd be crazy.
That's a very good high. What if it was World Peace? What would his message be? Because he already is World Peace.
How much bigger can you get than World Peace? World Peace, World Peace would be a great name. But yeah, you're there.
You're World Peace. I don't know.
That was the only thing I had. A little life hack for NBA players.
Just change your last name. Then you can put whatever you want.
I do appreciate that the NBA started putting the names on the bottom so that when the eighth guy comes off the bench, you're like, oh, that's who it is. Yes.
It's not just another Plumlee. Oh, no, it is another Plumlee.
It's not for every player, I don't think. It's just for certain players.
No, no. Paul Misaps was fucked up because he had Vote on top and Millsap on the bottom.
And he's number four. Yeah.
Vote four. Oh.
And John Morant had enough Morant. I was like, so we've just had too much.
Too much Morant. Like, what the hell? Too much of a good thing.
They did start doing, I think after the first game, they're like, people don't know who's like, like I said, the guy's on the bench. So they started putting their names on the back, which I appreciate.
But yeah, I just, world peace, world peace peace world peace i had a drunk idea or no it's a high idea yesterday it was um about golfers because shut up it was so brooks did you see that brooks capo he's got a new polo shirt coming out because somebody always looks hot somebody was chirping him on the course last week and said uh something like brooks is playing so poorly he should be a truck. And it was during a rain delay.
Oh, I'll fight him. And so he replied, yeah, Brink's truck.
Which is a pretty good comeback. Suck our dicks, anonymous guy.
But I was thinking, why don't golfers have uniforms? Or a jersey that the fans can wear? If I want to go out and support Brooks Koepka, I have to spend 20 weeks in a gym and get swollen shit for people to know that i'm a kepka supporter dude why don't we make uniforms or shersies for golfers how about why don't golfer why can't why can't golfers wear shorts how stupid is that good question like when they play in the shell open in houston in the middle of august and it's 2 000 degrees why can't they wear shorts or a kilt you know b Bryson would actually wear a kilt. Yeah, he would.
By the way, it'd be really- He'd probably wear a romper, a romp him. Four years late, loser.
It'd be a real shame if people started tweeting ant emojis at Bryson DeChambeau. Real shame during the PGA Championship.
I think we now have a bingo board where have we bashed Bryson yet in this episode? He's a bitch. Check.
Ding. He's replaced Darren Rovell as the person that we hate to give shine to, but we will regardlessly mention every single episode.
Dude, listen. Darren's just tweeting things.
You guys are taking it wrong. That's true.
Just facts. You know what you're fucking doing.
Facts only. I think that if we could jump to the NFL real quick, i did have one thing i wanted to address i'm i'm

starting to get afraid for the nfl season dude what about gardner though so gardner's okay we can get to that in a second but is it time for the nfl to either consider football island or just a hostile takeover of canada to ensure that we have a site that is covid free i think like i said on Monday I think it was Monday show

I'm just confident that

football

after doing it for so many years, they'll just all lie about it. All the doctors and all the players will just lie about it.
And yeah, I mean, I guess it's the wrong thing to do, but I also, I'm not going to accuse anyone of lying buying greenland is looking

sweeter and sweeter by the day isn't it yes i'd agree but yeah football i don't know it's just so weird everything's weird right now because you we should be seeing clips from training camps and stuff and i feel like you don't see any of that stuff you see every every team has done the welcome back where it's just a bunch of guys walking in the facility and that's it the lions Have you seen their sanitizing protocol?

No.

I saw that Kelly Stafford just went. Is that the Broncos? Yeah, the Broncos.
I thought it was the Lions. They have the little like spraying whatever the fuck that is.
That's the Broncos. Yeah.
I said it was Mike Shanahan. That was his old tanning machine.
They just replaced it with like a disinfectant Lysol. So they're good.
They have those. Yeah.
Kelly Stafford went after the NFL because I guess Matt Stafford had like two false negatives or something. False positives.
The whole thing is crazy. She said that her kids were being bullied on the schoolyard because they were saying, oh, your dad's got Corona.
Damn. I actually kind of believe that.
Yeah. It's fucked up.
Kids will be kids. That was great.
By the way. Jeter getting in front of everyone and being like hey everyone stop corona shaming

uh-huh so my guys went out to the bar you don't shame somebody if they have uh measles you don't shave you don't shame people if they have you know like lupus you shame people herpes or herpes well yeah we kind of do yeah we do i all the time it's one of my favorite things to do as a matter of I don't want

Des Bryant to test positive

for the coronavirus, but all I'm saying is that if he does, I've got a tweet ready that's going to go mega viral. Ooh.
Des caught it. How viral? Yeah, mega vi.
How vi. Mega, mega vi, like insanely viral.
Okay. But everyone's going to make that same joke.
I just want to. You know what I'm doing i'm getting ahead of it so you gotta put on alerts on this i would have tweeted that out if it wasn't a mean thing to tweet and uh but just so you know that everybody that does tweet those are all collectively those are my engagements right yeah add those up that's as viral as you can get yes you you're gonna go more viral than viral than that Ellen tweet.
Cut that part. Bleep her name.
Bleep her name. Then the tweet.
Then the tweet, yeah. That also had Kevin Spacey in it.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
People don't talk about that. We just forget about that part.
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Hank,

your hot seat and your cool throne.

Don't get serious.

Okay.

I'm going to get serious.

I'm going to use my serious car.

I read it. at boarshead.com.
Okay, Hank, your hot seat and your cool throne. Don't get serious, okay?

I'm going to get serious.

Fuck.

I'm going to use my serious card.

We all each get a serious card.

Yeah, we use it for systemic racism, and you use it for...

Well, it's my cool throne, so I'll get to that.

But you know what?

I'm going to skip my hot seat.

I'll get straight to my cool throne.

You want me to get serious?

My hot seat was Drake.

I'll let you guys figure that out.

What?

My cool throne is getting serious. I'm going to to my cool throne.
You want me to get serious? My hot seat was Drake. I'll let you guys figure that out.
What? My cool throne is getting serious.

I'm going to use my serious card.

Browsers.

AWLs, stoolies, free money.

If you like free money, this is something that we've been working on for upwards of like eight months.

It was something that was supposed to start right when the coronavirus pandemic started.

This is your baby.

So it got pushed off.

It is my baby.

I thought Normie was. I have multiple babies.
You didn't work on Normie for eight months though. Exactly.
Play Barstool. It's an app you can download today.
Today is the launch of the app. Within that is going to be Stool Streams, which is my baby.
Jake is like, I guess, you know, he's kind of like my co, my mom. My mom in this situation.
It's our baby together. Wait, so Jake is your mom.
So it's Jake's grandbaby. Jake is the mom.
The mom of the baby. It's my seed.
It's my seed. Hank and Jake's brothers.
It's my seed. You know what, Hank? I think you're the mom.
No, it's you're the mom. Why is Jake the mom? Jake's the dad.
It's my seed. It came from me.
Yeah. Oh.
Jake's the dad. And you're helping.
But you're the one who's held it in your body. Host it.
Yeah, Jake's carrying it. What's Billy? Billy's not involved.
Okay. That's actually a great selling point.
Yes. Play Barstool.
You can download it in the app store. We're going to be doing broadcasts every day.
And the kick is that it's six questions. You can fill it out in a minute.
If you go six for six, you win $500. What? Free to play.
So it takes a minute to to fill out all you have to do is download the play barstool app in the app store we're going to be doing them two times a week to start we're going to work our way up to more pft you guys are going to be in the first uh jenga broadcast a week from today a week from wednesday play barstool download the app rated five stars let's get that thing going uh and that's my serious card five hundred $500 hundred dollars and it's no one goes six for six so let's say you know five ten thousand people all enter the contest no one goes six for six it carries over the next contest so that the winner of the next contest wins a thousand dollars all right so that one's 1500 so we're gonna be playing like ping pong on it yes and then people can watch at home and what can they do to interact they make they can make make picks. So it's like there's going to be three matchups per broadcast.
Let's say it's, you know, me and PFT, Jake and Marty Mush, and Hubs and Frankie Borelli. You make picks for each of those three.
If you download the app, you'll understand it. But you make picks.
If you go six for six, $500 in your pocket. No questions asked.
Question, Hank. Yes.
Wait, oh, you just said no questions asked. Never mind.
No, you no you can ask oh question hank what's what's stopping someone from throwing games and having a huge scandal take over stool streams every contestant that is involved in stool streams will be signing a waiver if they break any of the rules on that waiver they will be blackballed from the league forever i haven't signed a waiver yet i to say that. Okay, what happens if you blackball everyone in the office? Then you'll all probably get in trouble from our parent company, Penn National, because this is a greater company initiative.
So if you guys are a big cat, I mean, I know you have stock in the company. I feel like you should be trying to help boost it up.
But if you choose not to know that's your decision i'm oh i listen hank don't accuse me of anything don't say that we're not don't say that we're not the stocks meme saying it should go up i'm like the fucking hacker in in um the social network i'm trying to just find the holes so i can help you out yes there will be absolutely no you know no cheating we're on the up and up no no uh listen i have integrity. No point shaving? No point shaving.
I don't think you can point shave Jenga. No, you can't.
It's true. There are no points.
Billy's thinking about it. Billy will figure out a way.
Play Barstool in the App Store. Please download it.
My life depends on it. Billy, you should just actually shave.
Yes. I do.
I need to shave. Wow.
If Play Barstool doesn't do well, you will give give norman away no you have to get a cat doesn't depend on it come on hank hank has to get a cat if if it doesn't go well why don't we say if more than 25 000 people sign up on how about if more than 200 000 people sign up on drop day i will get a cat okay there you go 200 000 yeah We get to pick out the cat. No, it has to be hypoallergenic.
My girlfriend's allergic to cats. It's got to be a certain type.
It's got to be hypoallergenic. We'll get one of those fucking shades.
As long as it's hypoallergenic. 200,000.
Day one. What do you got, Billy? We should get him one of those cats without any fur.
The ones that look like naked Morax.

Okay.

200,000 people downloaded today.

That's a lot of people.

I'll get a cat.

Give him until Thursday afternoon.

Big cat.

Isn't there like a Filipino service, I think it's called Odesk, where you can pay guys to just download apps to do some of them?

No, we need real downloads.

Okay.

Yeah, real downloads. Real downloads.
You got it. So you will get a cat real cat 200,000 people yep all right let's fucking do it everyone do it no but seriously we're very excited for this play barstool in the app store got it in the app store what app store uh wherever you download apps and if you want to watch some of the broadcasts tool streams youtube channel we've uploaded all the uh you know that we've done a lot of practice runs a lot of stuff like that check that out see the product any questions? You probably saw a bunch of it in Grit Week like how we were doing it it's fucking sick and Jake is awesome Jake was born for this it is just a very very small appetizer of what we're going to be putting on here and with the money involved you can win money free can win money.
Free to enter. No risk.
High reward. It takes a minute to fill out your picks.
Free money. Your fellow Medill grads.
I'm not Medill. You know who went to Medill? Jake.
Michael Wilbon? Hitler. And Ravel.
All right, so your fellow Medill grads. Are they like, dude, that's sick.
You're getting to call Jenga? Yeah. I mean, it is.
Yeah, I'm excited. It's awesome.
No, I'm the dream. I'm going to prep for every broadcast as if I'm calling.
Game seven of World Series. I mean, you prep for every match that I beat Hank and Ping Pong with.
Right. Which is like one.
We do pregame production meetings and everything. Yeah.
No, you're incredible for the job. I'm very excited for all of this.
Thank you. Shout out to Hank.
Good job, Hank. Good job, Jake.
Worked his ass off for all this and finally unveiling. Jake, the dad, and Hank, the mom.
Good job, Billy, for just staying out of the way. All right.
PFT, what's your hot seat? Cool to run. My hot seat is the coronavirus.
That's right. It's back on the hot seat because we've discovered a vaccine, and that's just being Gardner Minshew.
Yes. So Gardner Minshew tested positive, and he said that the virus took one look at him and turned the other way.
So even though we reported on Monday that Gardner was out for the season, that was a mistake, which I did correct in real time as I learned what the COVID list was. Gardner just shook off the virus in, I think, a day and a half, two days.
So just be Gardner Minshew. Be Minshew-like.
Drink from the hose when you're a kid. What was his quote? Took one look at me and ran the other way.
Exactly. Talking about coronavirus.
Boom. I like that.
My other hot seat is Vince McMahon because The Rock purchased the XFL. and my understanding of the situation is Vince had a shell company that ran the XFL last year, right? That company declared bankruptcy.
It was going to go up for auction. I believe today it was going to go up.
The Rock swooped in, bought it for 15 million before it went to an open auction. And I think that this is work.
I think that this is a WWE situation where The Rock bought McMahon's baby from underneath him, and now it's going to be like a WWE-style feud, which is what the XFL should be in the first place. It should be about entertainment.
It should be about have all these back storylines where maybe a popular podcaster gets a job on the team. Things like that to goose up the ratings a little bit.
But The Rock is going to be running the show. I think it's going to be electric entertainment when it does come back.
And I think they're going to bring it back in February again. I'm not going to say anything because I don't want to hurt your fans.
Thank you. Big cat agrees with everything that I just said.
I'm going to abstain. But I did opt out of the NFL.
Yes, that's true. So all that shit that I was talking about going to MetLife, this is just mostly me not having to travel to MetLife Stadium every Sunday, which is only like 30 minutes away, but still it's Sunday.
I want to be watching the pregame shows. So I'm opting out of the NFL.
I am declaring myself eligible for the XFL again when it starts in February. My cool throne is milk.
Milk is on the cool throne. Derek Jeter, why are you looking at me like that? I don don't know i'm ready for milk derrick jeter said that one of the guys on the marlins tested positive he wasn't going out these guys weren't going out and partying one went to a dinner at a house he didn't specify what house it could have been international house of pancakes or waffle house but it was at a house he went out for dinner not at a party and the other person that got it went out to get a glass of milk so i'm actually i i would understand leaving a hotel room to go out to get a glass of milk if you have like a dry batch of cookies if you milk is one of those things where if you get it in your head that you need a glass of milk, you have to go get a glass of milk.

It's true.

You've got to hankering for it.

Absolutely.

If it's beer, it's like, dude, just don't have a beer or just get one out of your mini fridge.

They don't have milk in mini fridges in hotel rooms.

If you get it in your head that you're thirsty and you need milk to wash down Oreos,

guess what are you going to do?

Come hell or high water, you're going to go get some fucking milk.

Milk.

And did you see Chocolate Milk's viral marketing campaign?

No. Katie Ledecky swimming the length of a pool with a chocolate milk.
Oh, yeah, that was sick. Was that hard? No.
Spin zone. Everyone's like, this is the craziest thing ever.
And I'm actually just asking the question, was that hard? I don't know. I think it's, yeah, it's pretty difficult.
Like, that's not something that, it'd be like if someone shot a basketball from, like, I don't think you could walk the same distance with a... Yes, it's hard.
Okay. I've never...
I don't have anything to compare. No one in this room could do more than two strokes.
I totally disagree. Also, she, I believe, was wearing a snorkel, so she couldn't move her head at all.
The normal swimming stroke, you're taking your breath every... That's true.
That would require you moving your head a lot. Even with the snorkel.
I could do it. It just means she has great swimming form.
That was sort of a good balance. So I could get that.
Linear travel. Yeah, I mean, we would never know because we only swim underwater at the Everbank pool in Jacksonville.
All right, my hot seat is, unfortunately, our good friend Jim Harbaugh because there was a story told on a podcast.

What podcast was it?

I don't even know.

One of those podcasts out there.

What?

Jim Harbaugh, another Milk fan.

Yes, another Milk fan.

He would absolutely leave a hotel room.

He has and he will again.

Isaiah Wilson said that he was going to –

he was being recruited by Michigan,

and he decided not to go there because when Harbaugh came for the visit, Harbaugh didn't take his cleats off inside. It actually was busting with the boys.
That was a callback joke to the time. We didn't give them a shout-out, and they got really mad.
It's our good friends Will Compton and Taylor Luan. They had Isaiah Wilson on, and he said Saban didn't hug him, so he didn't go to Alabama.
And Harbaugh was – That would be a plus for me. Yeah, Harbaugh's clacking around the hardwood floors with his cleats on.
So buried in that story is the fact that Harbaugh travels with cleats. Oh, yeah.
So he's riding in a car with cleats. He's probably hitting the gas pedal with cleats.
He's getting on an airplane. They tell him to take his shoes off at TSA.
He's like, fuck you, I'm not wearing shoes. These are cleats.
Cleats, cleats. So that's just Harbaugh being Harbaugh.
My cool throne.

What were you going to say, Billy?

I scrimmaged against Isaiah Wilson once.

Really?

Yeah.

He fucking loved it.

No, they weren't allowed to touch me.

I was a quarterback.

Yeah.

My cool throne is, I have two.

Big Ben is on my cool throne because Big Ben,

no one likes to tell you how injured they are as much as Big Ben.

So he did an interview on ESPN and talked about all the elbow injuries that he had last year. So he said, as far as I'm aware, it's happened to just kind of everyday people on the street, if you will.
So you're like, oh, Big Ben's being relatable. And then the next sentence was, from what I've been told, it's never happened to a quarterback of this magnitude.
I believe there was at least another quarterback that had one, maybe two torn off, but from what I understand, not three. So he's flexing about his three torn ligaments in his elbow.
Do you have three ligaments in your elbow? Big Ben does. Big Ben does.
But just such a funny, like, Big Ben, hey, ask me how injured I was. Oh, you asked me.
Oh, well, now that you're asking, I was very injured. It's never been seen before.
They should rename that. Like, you have your Achilles heel.
You've got Roethlisberger elbow. It means you can't jack off anymore.
It's incredible. I can't believe he's still alive.
My other cool throw is Lakers fans because after they clinched the number one seed, Kyle Kuzma tweeted, Real Laker fans remember the losing seasons. Here you go, number one.
They haven't been in the playoffs for five years, but I would agree. Real Laker fans, they remember, you know, it was tough to go from Kobe and Shaq to just Kobe to just LeBron to LeBron and AD.
It's been a lot of lean years in there. You're forgetting when they went from Magic Johnson to Kobe and Shaq.

Well, from Kareem to Magic.

Oh, yeah.

And then you're forgetting before that.

To Wilt.

He didn't really win that much.

But, yeah, it's been real ones note.

It's been lean years for sure out in L.A.

It's tough.

What's it been like as a Laker Dan fan?

Well, no, no, you're a Laker Dan.

I'm a Laker Dan fan. Yes, yes.
There's a lot of Laker Dan fans who are not fans of the Lakers but are fans of Laker Dan and the implications. You should absolutely get on TV as a Laker fan.
I'm going to try to. Number one Laker fan, Laker Dan.
But, yeah, it's so funny. Whenever I tweeted, there's so many people who are like, how the fuck are you aaker fan? I'm just, I'm just an Alex Caruso fan.
I root for one guy and that's him. When the Blackhawks lost at one in the morning, I just tweeted, well, still have my Lakers.
And everyone's like, what the fuck? Um, all right, Billy, you're hot seat, cool throne. Okay.
Well, you gotta remember that I'm the last person who does hot seat, cool throne. So all the ones I had lined up sometimes get taken.
Pretend that we didn't do it yet and rattle them off okay i was gonna go cool throne xfl and my hot seat was going to be milk i'm getting milk but my new one my hot seat is trees trees are on the hot seat yeah because it's hurricane season and a lot of trees go down wait, so Billy, this hot seat is literally you looking outside the window? No, no. It goes deeper than that.
Oh, yeah. This hot seat was Billy trying to reinforce to us why he was late today because there was a tree that was blown down across one street allegedly.
This is Billy reminding us that it wasn't his fault he was late again. And Billy, correct me.
My theory is you woke woke up this morning maybe even went to sleep last night and you're like oh hurricane i can just leave late for work and then say there was a hurricane no it's a tropical storm officially and i gave myself an extra 30 minutes and texted pft early and why did you just text pft well because he was the. But I think he does that because he sometimes texts me.
So he does the thing where he texts one of us. He plays us against each other.
Well, I texted you guys. Yeah.
Mom told me it was okay. Okay, hot seat trees because they fall down a lot in hurricanes.
And everyone's power. I also have no power.
Really? Yeah, yeah, power. You live in a barn, though, so.
Yeah, hot seat power. Looking at you right now, you don't have a lot of power.
Oh, true. Very true.
Hey, you're fat. Fat ass.
I'm not fat anymore. I heard you lost a lot of deadlift ability.
Billy fat ball? No, I'm not fat anymore. Jiggly football? Belly football.
Belly football. I am I am not fat anymore I am not fat My body fat percentage is probably way lower than yours But Spind Oh, really? You've been a 35-year-old father? No way, dude Also, Billy I ran a marathon You're not You did No one can call you soy boy if you're fat Yeah Belly football is so good We should make belly football shirts Belly shirts No Yeah Oh, that shirts belly shirts no yeah that'd be cool three of them but it would be funny uh cool thrown salmonella what was that wait what why don't you figure out what's going on with drake instead uh what is going wrong with jay well it's more of his pft's favorite rapper uh you know he's posting like basketball clips getting roasted on the internet for having to dribble.
And now, J. Cole just got offered a tryout with the Pistons.
Fuck. So, Drake, as a baller, a hot seat.
That sucks. Sorry, PFT.
Heartbreaking. All right.
Good try, Billy. Billy's back.
You're back. I actually got the nicest tweet.
Someone was like, real AWLs know that Billy never left. Yeah.
Thanks, guys. You're definitely fatter than Roethlisberger though Oh yeah He's skinny Way fatter He said He's like in the best shape of his life right now Dude I'm like close After that marathon I like have a four pack I'm gonna pull up the quote You're the second fattest guy here behind me No Roethlisberger said I'm lighter than I've been in 13 or 14 years I think Jake is sneaky fat Nah I No, I knew you were going to say that.
You and Jake have a little thing. No, I don't.
No, I don't. You know what we've actually accidentally, hold on Jake, what we've accidentally done? We've created the Brady Bunch.
No, we've recreated Salisbury and what's his name? Oh, Clayton. Clayton.
Yeah. We literally have recreated Salisbury and Clayton Billy.
Yeah. Don't send your dick to anyone.
Yeah. Jake, find a PFTs.
Yeah. Especially that.
Find a picture of Billy with a shitty haircut that you can bring up all the time. We got to do it.
Call him a nerd more often. We got to have you guys debate each other.
We're going to have you guys do it. Yeah.
That question. Yeah.
Okay. Billy, I will give you credit.
I was a little chunky in my high school days i was they used to call him cake because my my home friends call me cake they still do because everyone loves cake and everyone loves jake right there you go that's why that's why very cool that's very cool my uh very very cool my birthday junior year they told me to come outside and they just kicked me in the face what they just Damn. Those are your friends, bro.
No, they are. That's funny.
They are. Billy, Don.
Don, Billy. I was a little hesitant because I thought they were doing it because I was a little chunky back in the day, but the slogan makes sense.
Yes. Everyone does love Jake, and everyone does love cake.
Right. Yeah.
No, that actually makes perfect sense. They don't say that about belly football.
Not everyone loves bellies. No.
No one loves Bills. Billy, did your friends ever throw any food in your eyes? Everyone loves QBs, and everyone loves wider seats.
Ha-ha! I didn't hear what he said. Yeah, he burned you.
Okay. Yeah.
I would actually like to congratulate Hank on his duo's win with Glennie. What is this? What are we doing right now? Is it free for him? Is this just like a hot mic time? I don't know.
All right, let's get to JJ Redick. We're going to get right back to the show.
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All right, back to part of my take.

Now, J.J. Reddick.

Okay, we now welcome on a recurring guest, friend of the program,

and apparently he's coming for our job because he's got a new podcast company.

It's J.J. Reddick.

342 Productions was announced this week. The Old Man in the three is his new podcast with our friend tommy alter uh congratulations on that jj we're gonna talk basketball but let's talk podcasting first uh what gives man well uh my my contract with the ringer was up i'd been there for three years and for for tommy and i we just to own the podcast.
I figured like I had been doing podcasts for four years and it felt like it was time for me to actually own the podcast. And look, we're going to take our time with the company, but the goal is just to develop and build out a little podcast network and see where it goes.
So you have, i'm sure been talking to a lot of people about podcasting lawyers you know producers all that stuff i mean you have two experts here you got any questions i was actually wanted to ask you guys what you thought of the name well the old man in the three right off the bat you're eliminating a big portion of the sports podcast audience because you're using a book pun. Yeah.
And you're like, I'm smarter than everyone. Yeah.
Anyway. So we are actively trying to get as far away from books as possible.
I guess you're the thinking man's NBA podcast. So Ernest Hemingway, you couldn't have gone with like for whom the ball tolls.
That could have been good. That was good.

A farewell to arms because you're getting skinny these days.

You're not as swole as you used to be.

You could have gone with a couple of other directions

if you're going Hemingway.

But all in all, I mean, it's good.

It's not part of my take, which is completely original.

You had to base yours off something else.

And you also, I noticed you did the 3-4-2 productions.

I was like, huh, that's funny.

What is that?

And then I read up about it, and you, at the end of your workouts, you have to make 342 shots. Or no, on Sundays.
Is that right? Yeah, every Sunday during the offseason, I have a routine. So that's bullshit.
That's bullshit that you made the production company so that everyone has to ask you. Like, oh, JJ, you make 342 shots on Sundays? Tell us what that's about.
It's self-serving to my ego, for sure. It's self-serving to the ego.
Yeah. Well, I did have a question.
As you know, Tommy is a good friend of ours. If you guys don't know Tommy Alter, anytime you see me and Big Cat in a picture with random celebrities that we probably shouldn't be hanging out with, it's because Tommy arranged a dinner that we tagged along for for my question for you is what is tommy's job i've known tommy for four years i still don't know what his job is he has he has titles i know he works at daisus and marrow i know he works on the shop he works on my podcast our podcast but i'm not sure i'm not sure i think he needs to honestly he needs to come out with a little bit of like some clarity on what exactly his role is in this whole thing either that or i mean there's the whole mystery aspect of it which kind of makes it more intriguing it's like oh who is this guy uh isn't it isn't it remarkable though how many people knows? He knows everybody.
Yeah. Literally everybody.
Everyone. Last year, I took a vacation with him, and I left.
I flew home right after the 4th of July from Amsterdam, and then Tommy was like, oh, you should have stuck around, and we hung out with Lizzo the next day. And I guess Lizzo took my spot on the vacation and immediately increased the clout of that crowd.
So, yeah, you've got a podcast is he with you in the bubble i tried to sneak him in he he did not uh he did not fit into the nba's protocol he is he's just in la man we're just we're like you guys we're recording over zoom only we're not six feet apart um so it's you know the zoom thing for us and i'm sure for you guys too, has just been a game changer. Yeah.
The last five months. And apparently Zoom existed before the pandemic.
Nope. That's false.
No chance it did. We all just found out about it.
So who's the better podcaster in the NBA, you or CJ McCollum? CJ has a good podcast. I think I have a great podcast.
Oh, this league. Big we had cj on monday's show i noticed that his room is a little bit bigger than yours what's up do you like 14 years in the league you didn't get a bigger room than that no i i actually got the smallest room of anyone on my team um and and most of the guys are on the other side of the hallway and their patio looks at the pool.
Drew Holiday sent me a picture. His patio actually looks at this big open field.
Brandon Ingram is two doors down from me. He has a fucking apartment with a kitchen and three bedrooms.
My patio looks at a bush. I literally look at a green bush.
That's it. I don't know what happened.
Why did you get any respect? Yeah, what the hell hell you've been in the league for a very long time apparently there were four rooms for every team that were

considered like the upgraded rooms uh and uh i see where i fall in the hierarchy with the pelicans

it's it's blatantly obvious it's blatantly about what about zion where they put him up he's he's

got he's i'm sure he's got one of the four rooms i I think it's BI. BI for sure, Zion.
I would guess Drew has some sort of upgrade. I think he has like – do you guys see that door behind me? Yeah.
Do you see the door behind me? Yeah. That's like to a connecting room.
Drew has access to his connecting room. I do not.
Got it. Got it.
the the nba restart it's been fantastic it really has kind of felt at least from the viewers perspective like you know the energy's there they've done the best they can without fans has it felt weird playing in the games has it felt a little like different and and how so like you know game to game with no one stands? Yeah, the scrimmages were super weird. They hadn't started pumping in crowd noise, which is a topic that I want to talk about because that in itself is bizarre.
But the scrimmages, it was just like a quiet, sullen gym. And when you'd shoot free throws, you could hear a pin drop.
And so I'm just worried the whole time that somebody on the other team is going to, you know, scream something out right as I get ready to shoot. It also feels like you're on a Broadway stage because there's like makeshift locker rooms and you walk down a corridor and there's these giant curtains and you walk through the curtains and boom, you're sort of on stage.
There's these bright lights that are on scaffolds. I've watched games on television.
It looks normal. It looks like you're watching a summer league game.
While you're playing, it does not feel normal at all. So with the pumping crowd noise, is it to the point where it's about the same volume as a normal basketball game, or can you still hear everybody else they're chirping you on the court well it's because it's coming in from like an audio system and i don't know i don't feel like disney has necessarily upgraded their audio system in the last uh 10 or 15 years so it's it's it's very muffled it's just like muffled noise in the background and we're playing last night against memphis and we get towards the end of the game and alvin gentry who who's obviously an older gentleman he's he's wearing a mask and he's screaming instruction at us while memphis is shooting free throws this is down the stretch of the game and no one can understand what he's saying you can't read his lips he's got a fucking mask on that's a good so so i feel like in a normal game right on free throws what do you hear you hear murmurs everybody's sort of murmuring right there's not like real noise and and for us it's like constant audio input while we're playing huh what about the fake fans that are in the audience the screens can you see all those people at home or we can see them at home can you see them while you're playing yes and i do what do you think of the fake fans i don't mind them i like i mean they're real fans i guess they're real people they're real people they're just not there i applied today to be a virtual fan for laker games really i thought you'd be a uh a fan for the bulls all right well never mind never mind sorry yeah never mind oh okay i listen i listen the wizards got the wizards got invited and i Bulls didn't.
Good thing, JJ, you won last night because this podcast was going to be a full roast show about how your playoff streak is coming to an end. But I guess technically you guys are still alive right now.
Have you thought about that? Because everyone's talking about it. JJ Redick always made the playoffs, which you must have won a couple titles uh no and thank you for that thank you that's that's that's not a sore subject at all for me believe me are you are you though like conscious of it because it is very impressive to be in the league for 14 years and always make the you know be on a team that makes the playoffs that's an impressive feat when it got to like year 10 or 11 i was like oh wait a minute I've never missed the playoffs the first like six or seven years you just it's just normal and then you get later on in your career and you know then you're like oh I kind of want this streak to stay alive for my whole career but the funny thing is when I went to Philly obviously I went to Philly to take the one-year bag we all know that but when I went to Philly um i i i didn't you know i expected us to make the playoffs because i actually thought that team was was built really well with joel and ben but there was really no guarantee that that would happen and the same thing happened coming to new orleans and the western conference obviously top to bottom is is probably a little bit stronger um so i'm just i'm honestly just happy to be in a position where if we went out, like we're going to be in the playoff game, playing game.
If we went out, we're going to be in the playing game. And that is credit to Zion because did, did the NBA like give you guys a memo or did they just give you a wink? Like, Hey, we're building all these rules just to have Zion in the playoffs, which we've said we've been longstanding.
We're totally cool with because we want Zion in the playoffs. So we're cool with everything they've done, but it felt like it was all built for the Pelicans and Zion to get to the playoffs.
I would agree with that. Maybe not all of it, but certainly a large portion of having these play-in games and these seeding games was for Zion.
Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's a superstar league.
This is why we watch basketball. We watch basketball obviously for team greatness, but mostly for individual greatness.
We watch basketball so we can talk about James Harden or talk about Giannis or talk about LeBron or Zion in this case. That's why people love the NBA.
And in some ways we've like commodified this into an individual sport which is sometimes frustrating I think not necessarily like I'm frustrated with Zion I'm it becomes frustrating for the average for for me to think about the average fan and how they view the NBA because to me basketball is sort of the ultimate team sport maybe soccer is the other one but those two are the two well well the frustrating part from a fan perspective is if you don't have one of the top 10 guys it feels like your team's going absolutely nowhere and to get one of those you know it's kind of you mentioned Giannis uh I don't like the Bucs I hate Bucs fans but I feel for them sometimes because we're two years away from janice being a free agent and we're already talking about him being a free agent and sometimes it feels like the nba is more about that than it is about the actual game being played that's a very valid point it's a complaint of mine i don't know if i've ever really talked about it publicly but it's certainly a complaint of mine that so much attention is paid you know to the trade deadline and the draft and free agency and two years away from x players free agency we i we don't focus enough on the actual game at times and i just want to point something out about the the basketball the basketball itself so far in the bubble like we're seeing high level games I'm

I'm I'm actually pleasantly surprised maybe even a little bit shocked at how in shape everybody has been the shot making has been unbelievable that Boston Portland game down the stretch it was like big shot after big shot right after that Jaron Jackson you know hits that unbelievable shot to tie the game against San Antonio. Our first game against Utah, that was a great game.
Lakers and Clippers right after that, great game. It's just been high-level basketball.
It's been amazing. It's been incredible, and I was cautiously optimistic going in, but it has reached all of those marks for me.
That Bucs-Rockets game, I watched that entire game. I think it was sunday night and i was just thinking the whole time like i can't wait for the playoffs because this is going to be phenomenal these teams are locked in and you're right like i don't know if it's better shooting background or maybe the defense hasn't been all the way there because it's hard to you know talk on defense when you haven't seen your guys in five months but it's been you know high paced and high scoring which i think most people want to see except the old 1990s nba fans who want to watch 81 to 79 basketball by the way did you have you guys ever like re-watched the 2005 spurs detroit pistons finals yeah great so bad every time great series highly competitive but it's like 71 to 69 yeah I'm always shocked just watching games from you know just 15 years ago when they come up on my TV and you see the resolution it's not high definition it looks like it was 1987 I was like holy shit I can't believe I actually sat down and was looking forward to watching these games in 2005.
That series was very, very funny because it was, I don't think anyone, I think I'm looking at it right now, the Pistons went to, scored over 100 in game four, but there was an overtime game that was 96-95, an overtime game, and then game seven was 81-74 was a final, which is like-74 is a low scoring game when the third quarter ends right now that Mavs the was it the Mavs Houston game yes it was like 85 it was an all-star game it was an all-star game yes yes I'm looking at your contracts right now actually so let's talk about you because the JJ Redickdick impending uh unrestricted free agency begins the exact same year as jana so everyone's talking about like what's jj going to do in two years is he going to retire and become full-time podcaster or is he waiting to see where jana goes then he's going to ride the coattails there try to win that first boat from my understanding after jana i think i am the number two free agent that summer yeah that's what I'm looking at right now yeah no for sure um you know what I um Dan and I have actually talked about this a bunch but when you have kids your perspective changes on things and my boys are getting ready to be six and four next month or actually this month in about three weeks they'll be six and four at the end of august and being away from them for the last six weeks while we've we've been in new orleans and been here uh you really feel like you're missing out on a lot and when this contract is up i i think i will have to sort of go year by year. Obviously, you want to be offered a job, and my body has to be able to function, and I have to be able to play.
But at some point, the family stuff will outweigh my love for the game. It's inevitable.
I know it's coming. So Nets or Knicks, that makes sense.
And would you actually finally break it on part of my tape? Because when you signed with the Pelicans, I don't know if I said this out loud. It was very frustrating, but I saw you like three hours before on the street, and you almost told me.
I wanted to tell you so bad. I wanted to tell you so bad.
I saw it in your face. It's like, where are you going? And you're like, I can't say.
And then it was like, no joke, like maybe an hour and a half later, it was like J.J. Redick to the Pelicans.
Like, come on, dude. Give us one Woj bump.
To be fair, he gives it to Woj because Woj gave him his start writing about the NBA. That's true.
So you have to scratch his back. That's true.
What's crazy is I don't give Woj anything. I mean, we talk about this as players all the time.
Like, if you want woge to know something don't tell your agent do not the agents are the ones that are it's not even leaking it's just like hey my guy's gonna go here or whatever yeah but i i mean we can all agree like he tweeted this out it's you know the deadline started at free agent started at 6 p.m that sunday he tweets out at 6 0 1 p01 p.m. JJ's going to the Pelicans.
It's pretty obvious I had made my decision prior to the start of free agency. So I had known for basically a week that I was going to New Orleans.
And so when you asked me that, because I had already told my family members, I'd already told people, it was almost like second nature where I was like, no, yeah, I'm going to go play for the Pelicans. Damn.
And then I was like, probably not a good idea. Oh, I would have tweeted it right away.
No, you would have definitely tweeted it. I would have actually been like, hold on, say it again for the camera.
And had you on camera saying it. They've been tampering.
Just wear a wire. Yeah, right.
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And now more JJ Reddick.

When you went to the Pelicans,

have you had the conversation about how much coach K paid Zion?

Like,

have you been like,

how much did you get?

How much did I get?

Kind of compare.

And,

or do you not do that?

Did we lose you?

He froze.

He froze.

You're staying in motel six in Orlando.

You didn't compare.

So,

all right.

So Zion won't tell you how much coach K paid him. Got it.'m not touching any of that i'm not touching any right because you just don't all right i understand it makes sense like don't ask don't tell kind of thing with coach k you know he he takes care of his guy listen man of them coach k has never never done that to my knowledge he definitely didn't pay me personally jeff pays him.
Jeff Capel pays him. That's right.
Got it. Jeff Capel's not even there anymore.
He's not even there anymore. I know.
It's going to probably hurt Duke. Isn't that convenient? Or it's going to help.
Now there's no fingerprints whatsoever on it. You guys are ridiculous.
You had to know this was coming. Hey, have you guys talked about this on your show yet, by the way? What's going these these the pack 12 players uh yeah we've mentioned it briefly on sunday night show so we are we're we're of the mindset that like yeah ask for whatever you want like why not anchor the conversation right with all your demands and then maybe you'll get some of them and also if doug gottlieb thinks it's a bad idea that means it's probably a good idea yeah his takes are terrible i read his back and i read his back and forth with bambani jones i think that was yesterday i mean it was just that was god awful um it's interesting i think given what covid has done to some of these athletic departments it's inevitable now it's inevitable that you know power five football and basketball players are going to be compensated in some form it's inevitable right it's going to happen and not i'm not just saying from the likeness obviously you know the the ncaa i think is going to allow players to use their likeness starting after next season but it's it's inevitable that there's going to be some form of compensation i i've i've i've read this great article.
I think Mina Kimes actually put it out about athletic department spending, how essentially the way these departments work is the more money they intake, the more money they spend. So when they say, well, we don't have any money to pay the players it's because they've upgraded the bus or they you're now flying on a nicer private plane um or you have a 80 foot scoreboard instead of a 60 foot scoreboard so the money's being spent it's not like they're just you know hoarding this this this revenue we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.
They're not hoarding it. They're spending it.
But the people who are actually earning the money, i.e. the players, the product, they're not necessarily reaping the financial rewards of that.
Yeah, it's, um, I've been lucky enough to like tour a few different football facilities. And it's incredible because the amount of money they pour into those facilities is insane.
And essentially it's an arms race where the minute you break ground with a facility, it's already kind of like you're already ready to do it again in 10 years because that's just what they keep doing. And like everyone keeps building these insane places like, Hey, we got a bowling alley.
We're not going to pay you. You've got a nap pod, but we're not going to pay you.
From your perspective, in your personal perspective, when you were at Duke, did you feel like you were being taken advantage of? It didn't really cross my mind a ton. And I don't want to say I was naive, but in a sense I was because I had grown up in ACC country I had grown up two hours from Tobacco Road and my entire life all I wanted to do was play for Duke and so while I was there it was like living out your your wildest dream every day and I remember my senior year I got wind of the fact that just the bookstore on campus, just that one individual location had sold something like 5,000 Duke Ford Nike jerseys.

And those jerseys were going for like, you know, 75 bucks, 100 bucks, somewhere around that at the time.

And I thought to myself, man, like, obviously the school is profiting off this with their licensing agreement.'s profiting off of this the NCAA I'm sure is getting a cut like I I had to take out a my parents had to take out a loan my senior year just so I could sort of like pay bills because I didn't have like cash flow my scholarship check was not covering my basic living expenses. And believe me, I was not living extravagantly.
I just wanted to buy food. And that was that year.
And obviously, too, I mean, we're selling out everywhere we go. We're playing on ESPN every game.
I'm on the cover of magazines. That was the first time it hit me like maybe this system is set up incorrectly and it is it's it's the the hard part of uh the argument is it's the one percent are really getting screwed the guys who are they're selling jerseys and they're on covers like the the jj reddicks whereas there's also a lot if you're looking at a football's, I don't know, 80 out of 100 guys or 85 out of 100 guys who aren't going to sniff the pros who probably are having a great experience getting a scholarship, getting to be part of a team in a Division I atmosphere that's really, really cool.
But it is that like those big money driver guys that are getting basically robbed of a few years of like high earning years for them. Yeah, I don't think there's an easy answer to this to this, you know, debate.
It's a very complicated issue when you add in the fact that there are non-revenue producing sports and how those sports ultimately get funded.

Anecdotally, I saw in one of these articles I was reading the other day that Mina put out, she was talking about how D2 and D3 athletic departments have numerous sports. They have lacrosse.
They have tennis. They're able to fund those places.
So it's Every time this sort of comes up

I always say like i don't know what the answer is in terms of compensation what that looks like do we pay the best players more do we pay them less do we pay them a market rate i don't know but i know the system that is in place right now is not how it should be there there needs to be some sort of change it to argue for amateurism based on a system that was set up in the 1930s and 1940s prior to billion dollar tv contracts and ticket sales and merchandising is crazy amateurism does not exist in high-level college basketball and high-level college football. These guys are not amateurs.
Yeah. I honestly think that they should just put it all above board and be like, boosters can pay players.
Because guess what? Everyone's counter to that will be, well, Alabama and Clemson will win all the titles. Well, that's what happens already.
One. And two, guess what will also happen? If boosters can pay money to players above the board.
I mean, rich people don't like to just hand their money away. So when they make a mistake on paying an 18-year-old kid and the kid doesn't pan out, they're going to think twice about the next kid and it will,

it will correct.

And it will be a little bit overblown at first,

but then it will kind of come back down to earth.

And I think you'll probably end up with the same exact thing you have right

now,

except players getting a chance to make some money during their college.

I actually think it might be a little more fair.

Yeah.

It comes to that because it's not just the traditional powerhouses that have these dedicated like rich alumni that's spread out across the country that's valid yeah that's a valid point yeah and if you boone pickings yeah if you if you make it like if you're donating to a state institution you give some sort of tax break or something like that imagine that if like billionaires and millionaires could get tax tax for paying players to attend their school, I'm sure things would kind of level out all across the board, like instantly. You brought up Mina's name a couple of times, which is perfect because she fired off a tweet last night during your game.
I want to bring up. She said, every time Zion does a cool thing with JJ, I'm struck anew by the improbability of living in a moment where two

of the NBA's most likable teammates

went to Duke.

Do you feel like you've sold out because

you're no longer looked at as the asshole?

And is that maybe why you're losing your love

for the game, as you said earlier?

So the only reason I played the game in the

first place was to be an asshole.

It gave me an outlet to be an asshole.

Every player that goes to Duke, to a certain extent,

they enjoy being hated.

That's why you guys get together in those little huddles

I don't know. place was to be an asshole you like me an outlet to be an ass no but every player that goes to do that to a certain extent they enjoy being hated that's why you guys get together in those little huddles every time the ref blows their whistle every like every five seconds at a duke game you guys get together you huddle up the floor remember guys everyone hates us if you could take a if you could take a time machine we go back to 2006 or five and be like hey in 2020 people are actually going to want to hear what jj reddick says oh that's crazy that's actually a wild thought yeah that's like no thanks dude you're gonna put you're gonna play a podcast which you don't even know exists yet of jj reddick talking and being like oh he's actually an interesting likable guy no thank fuck that i'm opting out at that point do you feel bad though do you miss being hated i still feel like i'm hated no no you're not you're not no no nothing like nothing like i was not nothing like at duke um i think i talked about this the last time i was on the show like yeah it required therapy man i was fucking 19 years old and i had to deal And, you know, you're already at that age.
You're unsure of yourself. You have all these insecurities.
We all have insecurities, but especially at that age, you're, you're, you know, sort of becoming an adult.

and I didn't know how to deal with that.

And so it became this cycle where I would see the hate,

I would feel the hate, I would hear the hate

and then I would react to that

and then my reaction would garner more hate and more disdain. And that cycle just kept repeating itself.
I feel like by my senior year, I had sort of got the on the court antics under control. But people still loathed me.
And then even when I got in the NBA, I was having this talk the other day with one of my teammates. When I first got in the NBA and I wasn't playing, I could sense that people loved that.
They loved that i was stuck to the bench in orlando they enjoyed that like there was this sense of like oh people are really enjoying seeing me fail count me as one so say something hate i have no doubt i have no doubt that you were one of those people oh yeah it's like this guy's a bust let's make you hateable again. Say something controversial on our show.
Tell everybody that you have a Nickelback tattoo that we can all make fun of. Call Zion Fat.
Yeah, call him. I do have a Kings of Leon tattoo.
I'm very embarrassed about it. I'm very embarrassed about it.
That's pretty bad. That was a wild 2016, huh? Endorse Bill de Blasio.
I got very bored. No, I got very bored during the lockout.
I got very bored during the NBA lockout in 2011.

And there was this – I don't even know how to describe it. It was a bar slash tattoo parlor slash teaching studio for pole dancing.
Whoa. Yes, it was very odd.
And Chelsea and I and our friends, we would go there on the weekends, and we got to know the owners. And I think at some point maybe Chelsea and her friends maybe took one of those dancing lessons.
And then I decided I was just going to – I'm going to get my forearm tatted. And I ended up with a Kings of Leon lyric.
I'm very embarrassed about it. That's hateable.
That's hateable. That's good.
We're making progress. What's the lyric that you got? Your sex is on fire.
It's from Pyro. It's from Pyro, the song Pyro.
Single book of matches going to burn what's standing in the way. Oh, yeah.
That is hateable. You're hateable now.
Okay, you combine that, and then maybe also bring back the quarter sleeve cutoff that you used to. And I think we're back in business.
Holy shit. I actually, I've been meaning the last few years.
Because I obviously got my sleeve. I got my sleeve put over sort of the Kings of Leon lyric.
I should also point out there's a match. And then there's like some smoke coming off the match.
Like you just blew out a match. It's a terrible reader.
Yeah. Yeah.
Anyways, I want to get that portion lasered off. I'm going to get it lasered off.
Okay. It's going to be gone at some point.
So wait, so I'm less hateable. Yeah, no, you got to keep it.
So speaking of hateable, you played against the Grizzlies on Monday night. Is there a moment in the game where you lock eyes with Grayson Allen

and you're like, yeah, dude, like, I know.

We know.

You're me.

Like, yeah, you got it.

Spider-Man meme.

Like, we're the same guy.

I don't think we're the same guy,

but we've had a somewhat similar experience.

So, yes.

Grayson and I have talked about it before,

and there was definitely an acknowledgement last night.

I like that. I like that you just, like, catch it.
You can catch, you know, across the court like there he is. Okay.
At least you know he won't trip you. That's nice.
I actually thought there was a moment last night where he was going to do something like that. He refrained.
Out of habit. You can see it in his eyes as he's, like, coming up behind you.
Something didn't look right about his face, and I was like, ah, he's coming. He's coming.
He goes in berserker mode and just sticks his leg out and then just kind of blacks out for a second. Yes.
So I had two last questions. Well, actually, speaking of berserker mode, you have a podcast company.
I'm going to shout out again, 342 Productions, which launched this week. The old man in the three.
We have a podcast that we're ready to pitch you right now. I assume you're building.
Shit. Let's do it.
Let's do it. So it's actually not ours.
It's our intern, Billy. Billy football.
He's 21. And the podcast is just going to be called who's doing steroids.
And Billy's just going to talk about who he thinks is doing steroids at any given time. Are you in for it? That's more on brand with you guys.
I don't know. I think I should take it.
Can I pitch it? I'm not saying it's a bad podcast. No, let me pitch it.
I have a whole pitch. Billy will pitch it.
Okay, so it's going to be done seven days a week, every morning. It's going to be snippets.
It's going to be 20 minutes. And we're going to talk about a random dude.
And we're going to say, is he's on steroids or not? So we're going to take a random guy. We're going to be like, okay, Mike, the situation, steroids.
And then we're going to explain why he's on steroids. We're going to explain quotes that show steroid rage.
We're going to talk about his physique and what symbolizes

low body fat,

high vascularity. That's a sign of

anivar. That's a steroid.
We're going to take

guys who've admitted to being

on steroids and we're going to talk about their

steroid cycles.

Then

we're going to have

certain segments. One segment

is

athletes we definitely think are on steroids. And we're going to theorize who we think is on steroids.
That's not a segment. No, it's a segment.
No, no, no. It's athletes.
But then we're going to do like Hollywood figures who are definitely on steroids. And also there's another segment.
Here, listen to this segment. People who should do steroids.
Yes. Yes.
That's my podcast. I hope you sign with your company.
Yes. You asked for this, JJ.
You started a production company. You're going to get pitches.
I actually don't hate the idea. I don't know why it has to be a daily show.
I think you may run out of people to accuse of doing steroids. That's my only knock on the show.
You can accuse everybody. He's got the segments.
Wait, wait, wait. The title of the podcast is Who's Doing Steroids? We're not accusing.
We're asking questions. To cover your ass, you're a businessman.
Maybe the podcast is like, here are people who would sue us if we accused them of doing steroids. And here's why I would say that they were doing steroids and why they would sue us.
Yeah. Come on.
I have a couple other podcast ideas. Let's do one more.
Okay. You know what? Okay.
All right. Yeah.
One more Billy. Go ahead.
Okay. Okay.
Oh, this podcast is called, um, super cool animal stories. And every week we're going to go find the coolest animal stories we can on the internet

and like reddit they don't even have to be like we'll find some good sources and then just talk

about like you know cute animal stories violent animal stories shark attacks bear attacks um you

know uh cryptozoology attacks we're gonna have people who got abducted by aliens on the show

and tell their story again that's another podcast yeah Don't cannibalize your own podcast. But I have so many podcast ideas, I think I could really be an asset to you.
Dude, he's up for it. You can sign Billy.
If you want him full-time, take $100,000 cash. Billy, just out of curiosity, you're just an intern right now? You're just an intern? He's kind of more than an intern now he's got a 200 000 buyout yeah so if you want to get him pay well no no it's a 200 000 fee to negotiate with him oh it's like japanese baseball yeah yeah yeah like you when you pay us 200 000 then the negotiation window opens and then you have to sign him i i also have a podcast on biohacking where we talk about different research chemicals billy billy i have billy billy i've actually got it i've actually got to go billy i've got to go sorry sorry you're really missing out here last question jj uh you became a meme obviously quickly on uh saturday i think it was how quickly it was it was the the tv truck did you guys dirty it was like uh just a perfect montage of bad body language on the pelicans and you were featured how quickly after the game do you know like oh shit like they got me as soon as i turned my phone on i had probably 15 text messages from people like you from friends like you that would send me sort of that sort of thing and be like oh shit well you're a meme i wanted on the record that um you have kind of bought your way of me not bashing you because i i think i just tweeted the clip and said the t the guys in the truck really did them dirty i saw that yeah no i i give you credit thank you credit.
Thank you. You have my back on that.
Because I could have. It was more like, hey, here's what's happening.
I'm not going to say what everyone's thinking. Everyone else make the J.J.
Redick jokes. I didn't do it.
I made a joke. I couldn't resist.
It was a layup. Your legs were up.
You looked like you were getting a pap smear. And they were zion williamson's burst restriction and like all

the stars were alive i was like i gotta make a joke that zion just busted inside jj too quick

i'm sorry i'm sorry they forced you haven't bought pft's friendship they forced my hand

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We got Billy Sheet. By the way, I just saw this picture of Devin Booker's game winner.
The Surrender Cobra in virtual fans is fucking hilarious. Do they hit a button and all the fans do that? No, there are a lot of fans doing that behind him.
It's fucking hilarious. That's incredible.
Yeah. That should be a poster right there.
Dude. Move over MJ vs.
Jazz. I'm just happy! Sports happy sports sports baby um all right so the only thing i noticed on billy's sheet that we didn't really hit on is um beef there was a beef recall there's a beef recall and then obviously uh clay travis and darren revell went at it on twitter and i actually i'd i'd rather just die yeah i have to read them they on Twitter.
No matter who wins, we all lose in that confrontation. Yeah, like if you're like, hey, you have to go to prison for the next 20 years or you have to spend the next two days reading their back and forth, I'd choose prison.
Yeah, it's like the most popular nerd versus the least popular not nerd. Yes, yes.
Wait, which one's which? back and forth they just slide back and forth holy shit do they suck um they are at the center of the venn diagram of the most annoying type of people in the world it's just them right it's just they've commandeered they've took a singular venn diagram of shit and they've just turned it into something that whenever they fight they always get trending and they always just screw up my timeline because that's the last those are the last people i want to see talking they're the last faces i want to see in my life there are also two people who have somehow found made their uh work in sports media without ever talking about sports yes they literally never talk about sports anymore well either of them clay talks about not talking about sports right and darren talks about business of sports, which no one wants to talk about. God, they suck.
They actually deserve it. This guy in our...
This is all going to end with Clay making Darren a job offer. Yeah.
And Darren probably accepting it if it's enough money. And then Jason Whitlock writing some stupid, weird fanfic about how they're now like Godfather 2.
Yeah, yeah. And Darren is Fredo.
Or the wire on the boat i think that's going to be a wire situation um the only other one i saw though was this guy karen who got who got the weird the weird uh seeds i noticed they stopped talking about the podcast charts since they're yeah that's weird down too i'm looking now it seems like we've been doing this for five years now and it's weird how uh everyone always talks about the podcast charts for a while and then just suddenly and we don't really talk about it that's weird well we did when we first started yeah but and then we realized what the game was and and we're doing just fine remember when we were beating cereal and we're like we're the number one podcast that was a thrill yes that right. But that is true.
I give everyone gets a grace period of the first two months of their podcast to talk about how high it is rated. I will actually totally cop to that.
But after that, it's like, come on, dude. But yeah, you are.
You aren't. And you aren't.
The mystery seed that this is quite a story because I saw this over the weekend. It says man plants mystery seeds from China.
Here's what happened now um billy did not include what happened after after the fact so we that's cliffhank that's our cereal hank can we do the cereal music can we find out on friday's show can you save that no it says it right no no no no literally it doesn't say yeah okay no billy no we're gonna say it literally doesn't say so they're some reason. We're going to save this.
That's all it says. We're going to save this for Friday.
Billy, keep your mouth shut because this is a cliffhanger. Yeah, wait, Billy.
I want actually an extra cliffhanger, so I want you to come on Friday. I want three things.
Two of them are going to be lies, and one of them has to be the truth. Oh, he's not going to be here Friday.
All right, Billy, you're fired. We're going to get to the bottom of the mystery seed thing.
But I saw this story over the weekend, and I guess the U.S. government was saying, do not plant seeds that come shipped to you from China.
Fuck that. If I get mystery seeds, the first thing I'm going to do is plant those.
I'm going to water the hell out of them. What if it was one of those StubHub ticketries? Yeah, there you go.
What if it was a giant beanstalk that led you to a golden goose? Yeah, if I got a Ticket Tree in the backyard? Are you serious, dude? You just go to any game? I'm planting that tree. Ticket Tree.
Money Tree. Trees.
Back on the cool throne. Fuck the Money Tree.
Ticket Tree. All right, so on Friday's part of my take, we will uncover the mystery of what happens when you plant the mystery seeds.
Billy, you have to write us. You have to write us.
I was going to prepare it. Okay, so prepare it and then we'll read it.

Okay. Alright.

Let's do guys on chicks and let's get out of here.

Is it weird talking about past relationships

with your boyfriend, sex partners, dislikes,

likes, etc.?

No, because at some point that's all you have to talk

about with people. If you don't bring it up,

then it becomes an issue.

I think after a couple years, you're like, hey, it's weird that you never

talk about anybody else. I don't think you should bring it up.

Yeah, I don't think you should bring it up. I think it's a bad

Thank you. about with people if you don't bring it up then it becomes an issue i think after like a couple years like hey it's weird that you never talk about anybody else i don't think you should bring it up yeah i don't think you should bring it up i think it's a bad idea well in what way are you saying like are you saying like sex life i think everything i don't think it's ever like hey so i was thinking about my ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend i think it's one of those situations you just let the past be the past don't need to talk about about it.
That's, that's, it just will always end up in something bad. Hello.
Don't go in the past. Hello, Sir Cat.
Hello, Sir Commenter, Sir Cat, and the other guys. Recently, my Twitter crush slid into my DMs and we were having the best conversations about sport and life and whatnot.
Recently, I sent up a nude photo of my very nice breasts and he in turn sent photos as well.. This has escalated as you can all imagine, but my question is what is the next step? Do we travel across the country to have random passionate internet stranger sex during a pandemic? Or do we keep adding to each other's spank bank? Please help.
This is a perfect time to just fire off all the nudes that you've thought maybe this one didn't make the cut. Empty the chamber is what what i say you really want to get to know somebody before you buy a plane ticket yeah wait cross country yes you know there's penises in your neighborhood i've been on you porn enough to see that there are horny singles all over my street cyber all the way cyber do the full cyber and then decide My husband of two days only wants to play golf on our honeymoon.

What can I do to get him to put out?

Divorce him.

Threaten to divorce him.

So he's treating the honeymoon like he treated his bachelor part.

Did he invite his bros with him?

I think this is actually a good thing.

You should be like, go ahead and play golf. Just make the rule.

He's got to be done by noon.

And then just get yourself a fucking massage every single day like that's what you do because guess what he's gonna go play golf by himself he's a nerd let him do that just be like you got to be back by noon and then you're and then it's like hey this is great our relationship is off to a great start and you'll wait till you go home to divorce yeah the trick he's not gonna stop playing golf the trick to a good relationship is to just spend as little time together as possible so when you see each other you have all sorts of stories that you can tell about how your day was how also did you marry a golf guy and not realize it like golf guys exist and all they do is golf i hope you're prepared that every vacation you go on is going to be loosely tied around what golf courses are nearby hey honey can i bring my clubs yeah he's he's gonna like hey, why don't we go out to – let's go to Scottsdale for a week. Yeah.
Oh, yes, that sounds nice. Good weather, dry, nice restaurants and clubs.
No, he's just going to be out at the waste management. There is, though, something to be said.
I feel like golf guys that travel specifically for golf won't cheat on you. The business golf guys will.
They're like, I'm just going to play a few rounds. I play a few rounds here and there.
That guy will cheat on you. I want to go to Scotland and all I want to do is play golf at one golf course.
That's his form of cheating on you. That's it.
It's just like, this is my way to escape. The worst he's going to do is he's going to get a little frisky with the old guy behind the counter when he's buying balls.
Yeah, or the cart girl. Yeah, not even.
Because if he's that obsessed with golf, he's not going to drink while he golfs. Just keep your eye on the fact that a heavy golf guy in his early to mid-20s is on a direct path to become an exotic trophy hunter by the time he's in his mid-40s.
What you have to is how many golf books does he own if you have at least three golf books that's just pictures of golf on your coffee table that guy won't cheat sup guys are boys really worried about the size of their dick why not worried just i've accepted i've come to terms with my penis at this point i'm not gonna do anything to impress It's not going to do anything to impress me. There was a time when I was worried because I was like, that's it.
Are we done? We're done growing? That sucked. But after that, you just kind of move on.
Hi, guys. I love the show and I need some help.
I've been dating this guy for over a year and I can't help but feel like I am too young to be in a serious relationship. I'm 24.
But I literally can't get myself to break up with him. I could see me and him being together down the road, but right now I want to be single and be a hoe while I'm still young and hot.
Is it worth possibly losing him to break up? Or should I live my life a hope he's still around in a few years? And if so, what's the best way to break up? I would actually propose to him and then get him to be the one to say no thanks and then you can always go back to that well then at that point you actually have a built-in excuse to go have some wild years you're like oh i just got my heart broken by this guy i need some time to figure me out he's going to think that you're doing a julia roberts going over to india and riding elephants for six weeks when in reality you're just going down to the tinderloin andicked down like nobody's business. Yes.
By the way, you answered your own question. You want to be a hoe.
You said that. Be a hoe.
Do your thing. Do your thing, girl.
Hey, Big Cat, NFL kicker PF. Nope, XFL kicker.
X NFL kicker. Strike that from the record.
I'm going to claim that because I was offered a tryout. I'm now an ex-NFL kicker.
Got it.

Grumpy Hank and Berserker Billy.

So my boyfriend loves freeballing.

I get it that he wants airflow, especially since it's summer,

but he freeballs all the time, at home, in public, at work.

It became too much for me when we were at a friend's barbecue and he was sitting crisscross applesauce,

and one of my friends saw his nuts.

Ugh.

How can I convince him to start wearing briefs?

Yeah, it's a tough look. Don't make the jump from nothing to briefs.
That's number one. I've been at a family reunion before where the weird uncle is wearing super short khakis and his balls are just hanging out.
On one hand, that is goals. On the other hand, you can't get to that point when you're still in your 20s or 30s.
Dude, I'm kind of down with this guy.

He's free-balling and sitting Indian style.

Like, what the fuck?

You can do one or the other.

You can't do both.

All right, last one.

Sup, PMT guys?

My boyfriend always calls me brother.

What do y'all think that means?

Hopefully, yeah, brother.

Sometimes I'll be asking him a question.

Instead of him saying straight up no, he will say, no, brother.

Yeah, he's just a Hulk Hogan fan.

So it's good to know that Blackjack did get laid.

No, yeah.

I mean, Hulk Hogan made it popular, and he's iconic.

What more do you want?

That's actually the highest.

All right, what if she says, also, might be a Game of Thrones fan and incest is back.

Yeah, That's true

I was going to say, what if she's like, oh, so you're a wrestling fan

He said no

Then what?

Well, you can be not a wrestling fan, but still a Hulkamaniac

He had a reality show

Yeah, true

Maybe a big fan of Bubba the Love Sponge

And his daughter

Alright, that's our show, Billy, you got something planned?

A little bit

Wait, love you guys

Love you too

I was telling them, not you

Thank you. daughter yep um all right that's our show billy you got something planned a little bit wait love you guys love you too download the play bar slap i was telling them not you download the bit play bar slap download the play bar slap download the play bar slap hank will get a cat love you guys billy what are your closing thoughts for the day uh well there's a lot of things on my mind today as i was driving to work billy hasn't prepared anything there was a tree that fell on the road you know right when he hasn't prepared well he also but that's for the he burned two hot seat cool thrones that he didn't have well this is billy's uh i've been

thinking about not playing yeah billy do um do more spongebob impressions. Bah! Play the hits.
Bye. I'm coming for you.
Thank you. I don't know what I'm saying.
I'm saying it's anyway.

Today's the last day to find you.

I'm showing it away.

I'm coming for your life.

I'm coming for your life.