Blake Bortles, Steelers RB James Conner, And Baseball Is Screwed

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On today's Pardon My Take, we have old friend, recurring guest, Blake Bortles.

We also have James Conner on the show.

Unbelievable story if you don't know it.

It's incredible.

He's got a new memoir out about beating cancer and then getting to the NFL. We have baseball being fucked.
We have NBA bubble. We have hot seat, cool throne, and guys on chicks, the return of the Mount Flushmore, the volley back of the Mount Flushmore, things that girls do that guys hate, submitted by girls.
Do you have any predictions for that one? Taking too long, getting ready. Wait, so it's things that girls do that guys hate.
Said by girls. Said by girls, so it's fine.
And definitely not male listeners that submitted them as women. Hank has done a very deep screening process.
Faking pregnancies. Yes.
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Today is Wednesday, June 17th. And baseball is fucked.
Baseball is gonna be back. But it looks like Rob Manfred got caught with his pants around his ankles.
And I've not seen an emasculation of a sitting commissioner like this, I think, in my lifetime. The way that the players are all going at his throat and saying, like, Trevor Bauer had a great thread on it on Twitter yesterday, basically outlining exactly why Manfred changed his stance from 100% we're playing the games to, I don't know, and basically what it comes down to is he doesn't want to announce that the league is coming back right now because they would have to pay the players for more money.
He's waiting until they can only get ready for a 50-game season. The owners, if you don't understand this situation, fuck the owners because the owners essentially are saying, if we have to pay the players more than the 50 games that we want to play minimum uh we are going to lose money and we don't want to lose money and guess what we said it before we said it again the owners will be making money forever if they had any kind of foresight the idea here would be take a loss this season but save the baseball season and dominate season.
Dominate the ratings. Baseball should have been back a month ago.
They should be basically saying, here's our opportunity to recapture an audience when there are no sports. This is the long play.
Lose some money this year, but keep baseball going. Have everyone triumph baseball and say, that is the sport that came back first.
Hooray baseball. Instead, they're taking the short-term approach, the dumb approach, where they're saying we don't want to play more than 50 games because we don't want to pay the players' prorated salary, which we agreed to.
Therefore, we're going to give bad faith negotiations all the way through and hope that the general public will buy this bullshit, which they have not. Because it's worked in the past.
It's worked in the past, but this year it's not. For whatever reason.
I think it's a combination of social media. I think fans are significantly smarter than they were 20 years ago.
And I think more than anything, if you read the room a little bit, like, guess what? Guess who isn't having, like, the best time right now billionaires be words people of means billionaires when when there's a pandemic and 40 million people are out of work uh billionaires let's just say we're not crying for them so it has been an absolute clusterfuck they've ruined it every which way we're so players goddamn desperate for sports right now that we're talking about korean baseball on. Yes.
Okay? I'm becoming obsessed with Top Chef. I have nothing else to do at night.
I'm desperate for it. I'm waking up at 3 o'clock in the morning to watch Australian Rugby League, a sport that I don't really care about that much.
What? Because, well, I'm a rugby union guy and a sevens guy. Okay.
But I'm desperate for sports. We are all all desperate for sports and all you have to do is just put games on tv we'll watch them if they're on tv we will support people will come out of the woodwork people that haven't watched baseball in 10 years will tune in to watch baseball this summer because we're starved for sports and they are absolutely shitting down their own throats and they're getting exposed for for it, too.
Like, I can't remember another time when, well, first of all, credit to the players. They've done a pretty good job of holding the line.
And I'm sure there are some players out there that would like to say maybe, hey, let's make some concessions. We want to play baseball.
We're already getting paid millions of dollars. I'm sure that there are a couple players in the league that would want to go out and say that, but nobody's said it yet.
They're all kind of maintaining that line. And when they're all unified like that, it's very, very tough for the owners to put any extra leverage on them whatsoever.
So I think we're all resigned to the fact that it's going to be a 50 game season, which will result in an asterisk on whoever wins this World Series, unless it's the Nationals or the Cubs or the Red Sox. So just be warned, we're getting way out ahead of that storyline right there.
Yeah, Hank? And I think this Sunday's documentary really illustrated this fact even more, but they don't have a steroid boom to come where they can look past and be like, oh, this is great for the sport. That's not going to work this time.
So when they come out of this year where everyone hates them,

they're not going to have that boom of sport that's going to bring fans back. Unless they let people do steroids again.
Right, but they can't. To be sick.
Because they can't pretend like they didn't know what's going on. That ship has sailed.
I'm trying to find the tweet, but essentially an agent summed it up perfectly. he was like the Miami Marlins have basically pleaded that they were going broke for years and years and years, gave Giancarlo Stanton an insane contract, and then sold the team with multiple offers for a billion-dollar profit.
So cry me a fucking river, owners. Get your shit together.
Take one for the team. The Marlins also had.
Use baseball speak. They had Marlins man and the mermaids lined up as season ticket holders.
So that's like a little built in extra money. He's going to make Marlins man retire.
He's going to retire. He's alluded to it.
He's thrown it out there that he might retire. And that's sad.
So I have a fix. He's got cats to feed.
I have a fix. On Saturday, I went down a rabbit hole.
I want to buy a wiffle ball league. And I watched probably three hours of this wiffle ball league in Michigan.
I want to buy a wiffle ball league. I want to bring together.
There's like a bunch of different leagues all across America. I want to be the Vince McMahon of wiffle ball and bring them all together and make a national Wiffleball League because you know what? I actually think Wiffleball could just be the new sport.
Well, anyone can play. All you need is like a lawn chair, a Wiffleball, and a bat.
No, these guys are fucking good though, dude. So Wiffleball is sick, but here's the only problem.
I'm not poo-pooing your idea because I think that it's a good idea, but we have to figure out how to make it entertaining to watch because the pitches are sick, right? The pitches are awesome. But if you have a great pitcher, then it's just going to be a no hitter every time.
No, no, no, no, no. So I actually talked to the commissioner of this league.
It's been going on since 2009 and they have stats. They have Cy Young's.
They have highlights. They do everything.
He said that there is a there is a rule that you can't pitch too fast to make it more a hitter's league, and I also want to implement the rule that every team has to have a 300-pound kid who is under 5'8", and he gets to use the big red bat. Okay.
So there we go. There's instant offense.
He's the DH. Yeah, I'm into that.
Fat kids hitting diggers. That's America, baby.
You want ratings. Have every game played in a replica stadium of a Major League Baseball stadium.
Perfect. Those things are awesome.
Perfect. I honestly think that there's a, like, I was a little high, but I watched three hours of it, and it was fucking sick.
I went down this rabbit hole, and I was like, these guys are awesome. Like, the stats, the fact they had a Cy Young race.
Come on, let's do it. I like where your head's at.
Mic'd up. There's a guy mic'd up in right field.
I think the pitchers. Which is weird because he was like 10 feet away from everyone else.
Right, you could just use a boom mic. Yeah, right.
Or just have the camera pointed at him. Subtitles.
Yeah, exactly. There should be a dad needs to pitch.
A dad over the age of 60 needs to be the one on the mound wearing the official uniform of wiffle ball, which would be no shoes, maybe Birkenstocks, but no shoes, preferably cargo khaki shorts and like a golf shirt, like a button up flip flops. Yeah, flip flops are fine.
A button up like a golf polo. That's got a brand on the chest.
Might be a fishing shirt. But it's too many many pockets it's got a logo on there from one of his clients that he sold something to he sold some sort of network solution to that company five years ago logo on his breast and uh yeah he's the pitcher and he has to have a beer in it yes and everyone has to dip yes or just have a big wad which would be problematic because i also imagine that they will do an age restriction 15 to 25 years old.
Anyone older than 25 that can't play anymore. Oh, that sucks.
Yeah, why did you just age us out of the league, though? Well, we're going to be the commissioners, so who cares? We can change the rules whenever we want. Well, the reality is baseball is fucking this up big time.
Yeah, they suck. So that's what's going on with baseball.
In another world, basketball is seemingly going to come back,

although Kyrie Irving has expounded on his comments from the weekend.

He now wants to start his own league.

The Michael Scott Paper Company Basketball League.

I'm down for it.

If you can get it together.

I feel like that's one of those things, though, that if you say like a three-on-three league.

Well, we could start our own league. Right.
Like we could start our own league. Like there's a lot of fucking paperwork, dude.
Like even this wiffle ball thing. The only way this actually happens is if I tell Erica, like, hey, can we buy this wiffle ball league? And she's like, yes, we should.
I'm like, OK, great. Just remind me after we've purchased it in a year.
Yeah, I don't want to actually have to do. I've already kind of lost interest from what I just said.
When is wiffle ball season? Yeah. I don't know.
I don't really care. I'm not really into it.
One of the outfielders should have also... They just want to flex.
Yeah. One of the outfielders should have a grill in front of them.
Like, the center fielder should also be flipping burgers during the game. And a dog.
A stray dog. But yeah.
Multiple. So, basketball.
Kyrie Irving's going to start his own league. He should also have the Mark McGuire wiffle ball bats, and you get one swing per game.
That's the fat kid. No, that's the fat kid.
The fat kid gets it. Oh, okay.
There's a 300-pound kid on every team. He's the DH.
He doesn't have to field, and he gets to use that bat. And he gets to use ghost runners, too.
No, no, no, no, no, no. We need him to trot.
We need him to trot. If he hits a dinger.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if he hits a dinger, he gets to go all the way around.
He maybe has the runner that starts behind the plate and has to run for him. Yes, designated runner.
I like that. Billy, what were you going to say? I don't know.
The wiffle ball I play, there's no running. Okay, well, you don't play the real wiffle ball.
This league is awesome. You run.
All right, so basketball. So Kyrie Irving is going to start his own league, and then if they do play the NBA season, Shams' recurring guest had a Shams drop, Shambam, where he just basically they're going to have like summer camp and it looks awesome.
So hotel amenities, players only lounge, NBA 2K, TVs, gaming, pools, barbers, manicurists, pedicures. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You left out trails. Trails.
They're also trails. Pool slash trails.
Trails. 24-hour VIP concierge.
Daily entertainment. Movie screenings.
DJ sets. Video games.
Ping pong. Pool.
Lawn games. Players can attend other games.
This sounds like I know it probably isn't ideal and if you're a multi-millionaire NBA player, you're probably like, hey, I don't really need summer camp because my life is summer camp. But if you're trying to get everyone to be like, it's not that bad, they've done a good job.
All they missed was ice cream machine. And groupies inside the bubble.
That's a big question that I haven't seen addressed. Is there going to be just a rotating cast that comes in and out? Because if so, you need to test them all before they got there.
But really ice cream machine the ice cream machine's important too i don't want to i don't want to downplay that either but what if it ice cream over sex if it's just well in your in your eyes i would imagine that i mean come on a lot of nba players eyes like life i'm gonna guess that there are some yeah they're wrong players they're wrong that would rather years they'll motorboat and drown themselves in tits in 50 years they'll be like big cat, big cat, you know what? You're right. Yeah.
I don't see James Harden pulling that right now. No, that ice cream.
I want to see how the groupie situation is going to be addressed. Because, I mean, what if the rate of technical fouls and physicality of the game goes way, way up because nobody's having sex inside the bubble? That would be great for us.
Bring back the real NBA. A return to the 80s NBA when men were men.
Rex Chapman. Dogs, bro.
And Kurt Rambis averaged nine points a game. This is the content we're here for.
Fuck yeah. 75,000 retweets.
125,000 likes. I like that they're going to have ping pong.
Stolen from a little kid. Ping pong, video games, and lawn games set up.
Yes. They're going to have like, can you imagine the players like actually, you know what this is? This is like the world's best apartment complex.
And when you see the amenities that are listed when you move in, you're like, that's going to be sick. I'm going to use the projection screen room in the common theater area all the time.
Pool tables. Pool tables.
We're going to be playing on that. And then nobody ever uses the pool table.
And your apartment is one bedroom and like 600 square feet. You're like, shit, you know what I really like? Another room.
Right. And it's a 15 minute walk away from the ping pong table and the lounge that's right next to the property manager.
And you don't ever want to interact with the guy that you pay rent to. It would be really funny to figure out who is like everyone knows the kid uh in your freshman dorm who like there's a common area room who basically didn't have a tv in his dorm room and used the common area room as his room who's going to be that guy in the nba that was me i'll be i'll be very honest with you well oh that's no i know i had a tv but no it's no it's no it's different than what you're thinking because i didn't use that as my common area.
I had a pile back then. I've always been about the pile life.
And then that became the overflow of my pile was in the common area. That's brutal.
People hated you. I got some bad looks.
Just so you know, people hated you. Well, nobody else hung out in that room at all.
Right. People hated you.
They motherfucked you. They couldn't.
Yeah. You were one step below the RA.
And if the RA was cool, you were one step above the RA. It was a complete opposite of the RA, is the situation I was.
The RA hated me. No, I'm saying, like, everyone on the hallway, they're like, if you had a gun with one bullet, who'd you kill? It'd be like, PFT or the RA.
Maybe PFT. I also had the fake ID, so you gotta take the good with the bad.
Pyle's pretty fucking annoying. You're willing to overlook a lot of stuff as a freshman in college if the person can come home with a cube and natty ice.
That's true. All right, so that's basically everything that's going on in the sports world.
We're still in a waiting pattern. We're basically like circling a city in a plane, waiting to land.
So the players are going to go to the games? They can. To the other teams' games.
That's going to be fun to watch. Yes, that will be great.
That will be great. I mean, I want it.
I just bring it back. Let's fucking do it.
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Yes. Hank, hot seat, cool throw.
Also, an extra bonus cool move if you're a kid getting your dad some beer. Just tell him, let's not tell my mother about this.
Yeah. And then dads just love secrets that they have with their kids.
Absolutely. Quick programming note for the documentary review on Friday.
I have not watched this documentary, but I have it on good sources. I got a good recommendation from someone I trust.
It's called Three Identical Strangers. I've already seen it.
I've already seen it. It's awesome.
It's so fucking awesome. All right, so that's fine.
And it also will kind of fuck you up mentally. Even better.
Yes. Will you re-watch it so you can...
Yes. You'll be able to participate? That's actually a great description of this podcast in general.
No, like... You're all going to think you have twins.
Pete Carroll's going to watch that and be like, fuck. Did I ever tell you that I saw my twin on TV? It's on Hulu and you can watch it.
One time? Billions? No, it that guy. That guy was way heavier than me though.
But when I was in fifth grade, I took a sick day. I was watching EPL because all the games would be on ESPN 2 during the day when I was a kid.
And there was this one dude in the stands in England that stood up and he looked exactly like me except he had a mustache and he was about 15 years older than me. So all right, so three identical strangers.
I've got a twin. It will change what you thought about it.
Yes, I will re-watch it. It's fantastic.
It's the best documentary we're going to do besides King of Kong. That's the good one.
Good. We need that.
We need a good one. We need quality for the people.
Yes. All right.
My first hot seat, booze bags, alcoholics, planes, and airlines. I mean, Billy.
Just got them. Booze bags.
That was mine? Like Franzia? Airlines are not going to be serving alcohol on planes anymore. What? Because of COVID restrictions.
They're trying to limit the, whatever you call it, airline person and passengers. Airline person? Pilot? No.
See if you can find that word. The flight attendant.
Yes, the flight attendants and the passengers. The waiters? Yep.
I almost said airline mistress for some reason. Airline mistress.
Airline mistress. Okay.
I can't believe this couple is breaking up. So, yeah, booze bags have to go on long flights.
I'm sure there's a lot of people that are accustomed to like, you can't, though. You can't get that through airlines.
No, you can. Buy it in there.
It's very easy to bring airplane bottles onto an airplane. Yes.
This is actually great news if you just think ahead and plan in advance before you go to the airport because you just swing by the liquor store and you buy their little like one-and-a-half-ounce nip bottles and they're, I don't know, like $ like one, two, three dollars maybe. So you're saving a ton of money.
You're saving like five dollars a drink. Bring your own onto the plane.
They're underneath three ounces so they don't get pulled aside in security. The only problem that you used to have with them was when the airplane person, what are they called, Hank? Airline mistress.
Airline mistress. Or mister.
Or mister would come down the aisle and see you drinking contraband liquor. Then they'd take it away from you.
Sounds like they're not even patrolling the aisles anymore. So it's going to be sucking and fucking and drinking season.
Okay, that's fair. My other hot seat was myself.
Also, dude's jerking off, but yeah. Oh yeah.
That part sucks. Listen, again, gotta take the good with that.
And, like, old ladies eating, like, hot tuna fish sandwiches.

So it could get crazy.

Billy, I'll let you figure this one out,

but you can use Lamar Jackson on your hot seat.

And then my other hot seat was myself.

Why?

I lost in ping pong.

Oh, how bad?

It was a win to win and a loss to the loss.

That's all I'm looking at. Oh, so it's pretty close.

No, I don't think that's true.

I think usually when you get swept, you say, I got swept. It was a gentleman sweep, though, right? My cool throne.
No, he didn't win a game. My cool throne.
Hank was four to nothing? Yes, technically. To the Vipers? People are talking about your mental weakness.
Care to comment? I mean, it's five to two in the series, so. Right.
Flux happened. Flux happened.
You were smashing yourself in the face with your ping pong paddle. Listen, when I'm winning, people say that's why I win, and when I lose winning people say that's why I win and when I lose people say that's why I lose it's fine I don't care but I will say that the bulletin board material that Hank gave me leading into tonight that put me over the edge I came out I was actually mad it was very Jake News by the Jake News media who wrote a blog taking quotes directly from Hank which I me to chat casually.
Like, ha ha ha. PFT chokes.
You're going to crush PFT, right? I'm looking ahead to playing somebody else. He named three other people in this office he's looking forward to play because he's overlooking this train.
That's like an MJ using a quote that I used and making it. You can say it to the person.
Why would you give that quote? Because I am looking forward to us being back in the office and doing stool streams with other people. Got it.
Verbal meme. This is me looking at an iPad of Hank saying that I choke.
Oh, he's laughing. And then my cool throne is Chris Fowler, Kirk Herbstreet.
Even if college football doesn't happen, they're going to be doing Monday Night Football. So, like, I feel like it's good for them.
ESPN announced that if college football isn't happening, they're going to be doing Monday Night Football. So I feel like it's good for them.
ESPN announced that if college football isn't happening, they're going to use... So they're not going to be the booth...
If there's no college football, but they will be in the booth announcing football games for the NFL. So wait, they're going to be the Monday Night Football team if there's no college football? I believe so.
I feel like they're going to use them in the broadcast. I don't know if they're going to be in the booth.
Dude, we totally forgot. Do you have Mike Gundy on your hot sequel? I don't.
Okay, we didn't mention that. Was that the quickest turnaround? Yeah.
I couldn't believe that they had a video. He basically got called out by his player and then two hours later had a video with his player being like, we're change the culture he dropped another one today too a scripted reading reading off a teleprompter I didn't watch it but I don't think so I think he apologized this time but in the video it was him and it was is it Chuba or Chubba Chubba it was him and Chubba it's Chuba but I say Chubba they did the Predator handshake the Drew Drew Brees Photoshop Shutterstock thing.

Nice.

The white and black guy doing the high high five.

It was great.

Freedom of speech.

It was good to see.

Freedom of consequence.

I mean, that's crazy if people can't figure that out.

You can say whatever you want, but you can also have the consequences of your player calling you out.

Also, I don't know when we expected college football coaches in general to be the most in tune on these types of issues.

The least, yeah, they are the worst. I don't think that Mike Gundy actually watches OAN.
I think that he just likes the logo. He's like, oh, I think he was.
I think he's commented on it and been like, oh, that's right. Straight news.
Yeah. Like, yeah, I don't think so, dude.
That's like the opposite. That's what's crazy about it is that Mike Gundy, you're right.
He was on the record like a month ago. Just like out of nowhere being like, by the way, have you checked out OAN? Yeah, facts.
Straight facts. No frills.
Gundy's going to come in wearing an American Heroes channel shirt next. But it is funny that like the college coaches, they essentially are, it's like back to like feudalism in Europe.
Like they're the kings and the vassals or whatever, little area and they don't hear anything they don't know anything else they know that they are like the end-all be-all in their little college town and the world outside just goes on around to me the story wasn't so much about the actual shirt he was wearing and the objection that the player might have had to what oan and how they cover the black lives matter movement me, their story is like when Chubba came out and said that I'm not going to play, and he's one of the best players in the country. When he came out and he said, I'm not going to play unless some changes happen.
That to me was a major, major shift in power in college football. Yeah, because people because he said that his team was lined up behind him.
And if players were to say something like that no matter what the issue was no matter what they were protesting against or disagreeing with about whether it's the system or what their coach is doing um they have a shitload of power and i think i think that i think that scares some people i disagree i think college players they're still. Like, they – because they're only there for three or four years.
If the coach wins, they can do whatever they want. And you even saw it in the apology or whatever the video was.
Mike Gundy didn't apologize. Chubba did.
So, it was like, wait, what? Who's – like, it was – the imbalance was right in front of us. But I think Gundy apologized later.
You're right. There's definitely an imbalance.
But a lot of people got very, very scared about what could happen. Yeah, I just still think they just run – these places, like, they just run everything.
If they have their boosters in line and they win football games, none of them – like, winning coaches don't get fired in college football. Oh, no, I'm not saying that Gundy was going to get fired.
Right. That's not the route I'm going down.
I'm just saying you saw the players kind of realize that if they band together, that they can make shit happen. And I'm just saying- We'll see if shit happens.
I think things are going to change moving forward. I don't know what it's going to look like, but there was definitely a different feel to it.
All right you're up, PFT. My hot seat is Zubaz.
Okay. Oh, another one, Billy.
Billy, do you want to take this one? No, no. Zubaz is going bankrupt.
I was going to put the Gronk brothers on the hot seat. Yeah, so Zubaz, they declared bankruptcy, so now this means in the last three months, it's been the XFL, Zubaz, and USA Rugby.
I've got to out how to start bidding on some shit. No, we turn them all, that and wiffle ball, we turn it all into one sport.
Ooh, I like Calvin ball. And all the uniforms are Zubaz.
Yes. Yes, Hank.
Yes, I like that. You know what this is? This is synergy happening right now.
Yes, absolutely. This is the universe sending us a big signal it's time to become commissioners yep um my other hot seat is uh giants kickers so uh rojas got arrested yesterday because i guess he drove through an intersection he was drunk allegedly t-boned a car tried to run from the police not good uh so giants kickers have been on real, real hot streak of running afoul of the law the last couple years.

That also means there's an opening in the NFL.

For another kicker?

I was going to say Janikowski.

Bring back Janikowski. A little fun fact from our guy Warren Sharp.

No team has kicked more field goals of 35 yards or less,

losing by multiple scores than the Giants the last five years.

This is where PFT could excel.

No pressure. Your team's already getting crushed.
Damn. Can I just say something? I don't want to play for the Giants.
Oh. I will play for most.
That's so big of you to take your name out of the ring. Also, the culture that they have of kickers there, I don't feel like that would be a legacy that I want to contribute to.
You and Weatherford in the locker room? He was a punter, wasn't he? Yeah, kickers. Punters aren't kickers.
Punters aren't kickers? No. They're alpha kickers.
A punter is a kicker that lost his virginity at 22 instead of 21 and a half. Oh, I think punters might be more alpha than kickers.
Disagree. They're always bigger.
How many points do punters get? But they make tackles, and they kick the ball really... Nah.
Kickers are like the last... I feel like punters.
I mean, think about Marquette King. That guy's a fucking baller.
Janikowski, counterpoint. Pat McAfee, WWE.
McAfee, both. Nope.
No, he's a punter. He was a kicker before he was a punter.
Yeah, but he was a punter. The Gramatica brothers.
Oh, that's a few loss. Getting injured and celebrating a kiss.
Aguayo? Yeah, the Aguayo. Dude, when was the last time a punter ripped a turtle in half? Turntle.
Turntle. Greatest name ever for a turtle.
Fucking shame, man. Shame.
My cool throne is reality show conspiracy theories. So, like I alluded to earlier in the show, I've become a big Top Chef fan.
I've actually been a big Top Chef fan going on, I don't know, like 10 years, 12 years, whenever, back in like 2007 is when I first got into. But it's the finale tomorrow on Thursday.
And in the preview for the finale, they have Padma awarding the winner and saying, congratulations, you are Top Chef. But people have gone back and rewound it.
And they can tell by her inflection that she's genuinely surprised to be awarding it to this person. So now the internet is thinking the betting odds have shifted that it's going to be Stephanie, who's not even a chef at a restaurant.
She's a private chef who's really good. So people are thinking that Melissa, the odds on favorite, is not going to win.
I'm team Melissa through and through. Anyone that knows me knows that.
But it seems like Stephanie might pull. I refuse to believe.
Can you just look it up on that? You're going to get spoiled. Someone's going to spoil it for you.
It's not. What do you mean? They're under NDA.
Yeah, someone always knows. Reality Steve.
Someone always knows. Somebody tell me, if you know who wins Top Chef, let me know so I can bet on it.
But my money is on Stephanie. The moment's going to be too big for her, and she's going to, I don't know, make a store-bought risotto and still undercook it.
All right, my hot seat is us because I realized something. We never – we've been doing this podcast for four and a half years.
We've gotten exponentially bigger year over year. Keep growing.
Little brag. We brought back our intern, Billy football, and we never reintroduced him.
And there's probably a lot of people who started listening in the last two or three years who probably have no idea who Billy football is. So Billy football is our intern.
He was our first intern in the summer of 2016, six, 17. He was, 17.
He showed up for his interview with six pages stapled on his resume, and about five and a half of the six pages were just completely made up. He was like...
Some of them were stats from his high school football career. Yeah, he was like, I'm a high school quarterback.
I can get you guys in shape. And he is a gem of a person.
This is what sealed the deal for me when I was like, we got to get this kid. I had lost my remote, my TV remote.
And we were doing a bunch of interviews, and I did Billy's interview. And then he was interviewing with you guys in like a few hours.
And I was like, hey, I need you to run to Best Buy. We were on 28th Street.
Best Buy was on like 22nd Street. I was like, I need you to run to best buy we were on 28th street best buy was on like 22nd street i was like i need you to go to best buy and get me a new remote and he legitimately came back in like two and a half minutes like full sweat i was like what how he's like dude i thought i thought i was getting filmed i ran as fast as i possibly could like he literally sprinted like seven blocks and then sprinted back with the remote like i literally went to the bathroom and came back.
Here you go. What we need to do, though, so Billy was our first intern.
He's back with us, which he always had a job back with us. He went with us when we interviewed J.J.
Watt. He went with us, stayed at Kyle Long's house.
He went with us to ESPN the first time that we were on their campus. He almost fucking truck-sticked Rusillo in the hallway.
He's like a horse. When you bring Billy inside somewhere, he's always sprinting around places.
In between taking sips of water, he's just always on the go. So we need to.
What we're going to do is we'll tweet out. The essence of Billy is his first summer, he accidentally tweeted a picture of PFT's dick and also doxxed his phone number.
Within 10 minutes of each other. His punishment was he had to give a PowerPoint.
Oh, wow. Was that small? Well, no.
If you see the angle that it was at, you'll understand. He had to do a PowerPoint on cybersecurity and fire salamanders for the entire office.

We have it.

We videotaped it.

It was fantastic.

That is Billy in his essence.

He's a gem of a person.

So sorry by us for not reintroducing him.

But he's back.

He's better than ever.

He's going to get us in shape.

He's got a whoop, which I'll get to in a second.

And Billy, it's great to have you back.

Thank you so much.

I mean, and he also doesn't talk in the mic.

I'm a notification that he tweeted at us saying that he wants money to create a different species of frog. Oh, I'm down for that.
To me, I want to hear his explanation behind it because it seems like you're getting into a Jurassic Park type situation where you're like splicing reptile DNA together. I'll get that.
But really quickly, I just want you all listeners to know that, you know, I'm always on the hot seat. I know I might not do the best on the pod, but I'm always taking care of the guys.
I know that as long as I can get them candy and stuff as fast as I can. Billy's for the boys.
Then they will fire me. Billy also put us on a diet that summer and would just hand us food and be like, Billy, are you sure this is okay to be on the diet? And he would be like, hold on one sec.
And then he'd run back to his desk, Google something, and then be like, actually, don't eat that. That was also, I was like interviewing him.
I was like, Billy, what do you want to do this summer? He's like, I want to train Big Cat. Yeah.
And I was like, okay. Yeah, and he would grill for us every day, which we've got to bring that back.
We've got to have you start grilling for us again. My favorite part of Billy was when he would bring the gallons of water up to us.
Every day he'd give us a gallon of water, and he'd have all these motivational messages written on the side of us. Yes.
Bring that back, too. I want water.
I want a gallon of water. We're getting back in shape.
All right, my cool throne is Dez Bryant. He tweeted, tested for coronavirus negative.
Hell yeah. So if anyone was wondering.
Was he hanging out with Ezekiel Elliott? Just the perfect timing. Like, okay.
That was also hilarious, the HIPAA thing. Did Dez Bryant just commit a HIPAA violation on himself? Yes.
Yes. All right, Billy, what's your hot seat cool throne? Hot seat Lamar Jackson for playing a little beach football.
How'd you come up with that one? Good. That was good.
You figured it out. Yeah, I thought someone was going to choose it, so I chose Zupa.
You don't have to lie. You didn't think anyone was going to choose it.
I thought it was going to be obvious. Yeah, so he was playing football on the beach, and he scrambled, and he almost got hit by a jet ski.
But he's okay, which is good. So Cool Throne, the Baltimore Ravens.
I thought people on the internet were going to be way more upset with him. That was a casual, it was a terrible look.
If that was like Tom Brady was on the Patriots, I'd be shitting my pants and furious. Oh, right now you wouldn't? If Tom Brady had scrambled and run a 4-2-40 down the beach and had to jump 30 feet over a jet ski, you would have shit your pants? Yes, I would have been heated.
So hot seat Lam lamar um cool throne uh ravens but also cool throne patriots fans because tom brade just came out and me personally i think that him in the buccaneers jersey makes him look like a total villain because it's just the color schemes like big like sith lord vibes adam sandler in the longest yard yeah like red and gray like he went from blue and red, which is like, you know, I feel like good Jedi. And then it's like Sith Lord.
But that's just me. But yeah.
I can't even remember what he looks like in a Patriots uniform anymore after seeing that. It's like he wiped my slate clean.
We should see how long you could just talk. Monologue.
Do you guys want to hear about the frog? Yes. Okay, so African bullfrogs are really cool.
They're like the heaviest frogs. They get about this big, which is about the size of a Thanksgiving turkey.
And so there's this – have you guys ever seen that thing on Netflix of the guy who injects – he injects himself with CRISPR genetically engineering? That was definitely not. He's turning himself into a chicken? You know he just – You can just say YouTube.
Okay, YouTube. YouTube CRISPR.
I forgot the guy's name. Anyway, he sells these kits.
He sells these gene editing kits, and it's for frogs. So he does it on lab frogs.
No, I'm out. You're not injecting frogs.
No. Are you buying a kit of DNA from a guy on YouTube that shoots himself up with batter? His logic isn't bad, though.
Science teachers do it all the time. But CRISPR technology, so we could make this frog, which is already giant, we could make it even bigger by injecting it.
So we're just doing like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for a frog. Yes.
Can we just... All right, I'm back legal with science Because you can dissect frogs It's not If I was a frog I would be like oh I'm a frog But you're going to make me a huge mutant frog I'd be so in But did the frog consent We're going to ask the frog I'm going to give you live mice every day.
No, here's what you do.

Billy, just set up like a pad in front of him and be like, jump to the left.

If no, jump to the right.

If yes, do you consent to us making you swole as hell?

And then just keep videotaping it until he jumps to the left. I think if you look at which frog you're going to buy, you can see in their eyes if they

want to be an alpha or not.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like, do you really want it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Get the frog that hates you the most.

Yeah.

They're really vicious.

They got teeth.

Remember?

Oh, that's right.

Thank you. You can see in their eyes if they want to be an alpha or not.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, do you really want it? Yeah. Yeah.
Get the frog that hates you the most. Yeah.
They're really vicious. They got teeth.
Remember? Oh, that's right. We do remember.
All right. So that's Billy football.
We're happy that he's back. That was part of my take on bioethics.
Yeah. All right.
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What was your sleep last night, Billy? I just got today, but you're all on the hot seat because you're going to wake up and look at the app and be like, whoa, Billy's kicking my ass with all these stats. While you're sleeping, inferior.
While you're sleeping, I'm doing fun things that raise my heart rate. You didn't get him sleeping too, Billy.
That's part of the deal. I need you to be at peak rest.
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Okay, here he is, our good friend Blake Bortles. Okay, we now welcome on our very, very good friend, long time recurring guest, one of our best friends.
I'm going to just fucking say it one of our best friends it's Blake Bortles Blake we're calling you because Blake of the Year is coming up it might actually even be next week we're not going to release it until July 6th but we wanted to check in with all of our Blakes before him we talked to Blake Griffin last week how are you are you feeling? Are you recommitted this year? Because last year you were disappointing. And how's the general vibe in the Blake Bortles household? It's pretty good.
I feel pretty good. I got a lot of redeeming.
There was a lot of redeeming to do. Last year was tough.
I had a bad showing there. I think Blake Griffin probably set a record that'll never be broken and how quickly he answered.
So I got lot to make up I mean it's all kept going TV playing this weekend he's got a uh phenomenal mustache going Blake Griffin's obviously the defending champ so um I got to kind of pick my stuff up so I'm ready this year how will we get like a week's heads up or how I'm gonna tell you notice you guys gonna get it's gonna be three days it's gonna three-day period. So it's going to be like a Monday through Wednesday.
The call could happen at any time. Okay.
I like that. I'll be ready because my schedule has never been more wide open.
Yeah, what have you been doing? So, yeah, what's been going on? I have a theory, Blake. I think that you're being blackballed by the NFL because you drive a Tesla.
Have you heard about that? No, I haven't. But I think it's tough to argue with.
Yeah, it is. They're sponsored by all kinds of motor oil companies.
I mean, they don't want you to drive clean. Right.
Yeah, they're definitely promoting the gas and the power. What is the latest? Like, it's probably it's I don't know if it's a source.
I think most of the time it's a source subject. But knowing you, you're you're a go-the-flow guy.
What's the latest? Have we got any buzz? Do we need to get the buzz going? We could definitely create some buzz. Yeah, it's kind of a question that I get asked pretty frequently, and it's gotten to the point now where I just give different answers every time somebody says the rest.
I mean, I've sent the highlight tape to the lingerie league, so I'm kind of just waiting and hanging on. Wait, give us all the answers.
all the answers just rattle them all off that's well i i uh for a while i just pretended like i was going back to la even though i only signed a one-year deal and they didn't re-sign me just to kind of um keep the conversation from going any longer and then i've thrown the lingerie highlight tape out there a couple times that's a good line and then a lot of times I just pretend like I don't hear them ask the question. Okay, those are three great options right now.
Those are kind of my go-to. So yeah, no, just hanging out, staying in shape, working out at the house and trying to be a dad, do all that, and waiting for somebody to call us.
So hopefully I'll hear from somebody. Would you like us to put together a highlight reel for you? Like we could edit a sweet mixtape together.
Like have it start in black and white with a heartbeat and then kick in some like EDM music. That catch on the sidelines from last year.
Would you like us to do that? To like go out there? Just a highlight of my season last year, yeah. Definitely.
Maybe mix in a little Linkin Park or something in the background too. Hell yeah.
Okay, yeah, we can make that happen. Well, here's the good news is, I don't know if you've caught any Coach Duggs, but you actually are the backup quarterback for Tennessee right now, so we might just restart the whole career, and if I stay with Tennessee another year, you'd be my starter.
There you go. Actually, somebody told me that the other day.
They said, hey, what you did last year is what's going on in Coach Doug's career right now.

You're just over there hanging out on the sidelines.

Perfect, man.

That's on a nice little home over there.

Yeah, and you're a five-star recruit.

Different race, but you're a five-star recruit. So they show your graphic after every first extra point to be like,

look at Blake Bortles out there holding the ball.

Sounds perfect.

Yeah, definitely. I mean, I could have got a little tanned early on yeah yeah yeah right exactly are you down in Florida right now yeah I'm in uh I'm still in Jacksonville what's that like down there I forgot the place here hanging out here are places closed down or they open up now no Florida I don't know about all of Florida I guess northeast Florida um nothing ever really changed you know it was, it was kind of like I have buddies, obviously, that are still out in California and L.A.
It was kind of shut down. And, you know, I don't know if it was mandatory, but I think it was pretty close to being mandatory for people to wear masks.
And, I mean, there's definitely a majority of people here not wearing masks. You know, restaurants have been opened up for a couple weeks now.
So, I mean, it's been pretty active. Can we get you back on the Jaguars? I don't know I'm not sure if that's something that is in their future plans they were set with the last goodbye and I don't know if they want to reunite hold on let me finish what if we just did a fucking sick I'm coming home video yeah hey I mean perfect I in.
Whatever you guys can do or put together to help me get a phone call and have a job again would be incredible. Well, I mean, Doug Marone, he's a big sentimental guy.
If you can get him crying about something, then I think you can really control his decision making. So, I mean, we can send him an I'm coming home video.
I'm sure that watching that, he'd be like, yeah, you know what? Me and Blake had some great times together. If you love something, set it free.
If it was meant to be, it'll return, you know? Right, never true or worse. Yeah, maybe get him a little riled up emotionally and then just kind of throw some baloney in his face and see how happy we can make him.
Maybe we can get that done. Here's another idea.
What if we get Jared to maybe do like an E60 where he comes out and says that he was addicted to playing Fortnite last year and you were such a good teammate that you intervened and got him to stop and that's just the type of guy you are. Right, and then I overtook his Fortnite addiction so that he didn't have to.
Yes yeah i think i think that's a good storyline okay obviously i had a little more free time than he did yeah i like that one though yeah we we can we can manufacture a lot of storylines how about how about this one you uh went you finally went to the dentist and you got your halitosis fixed so you no longer have bad breath so don't worry about that in the the huddle, guys. Right.
That's completely taken care of. Strict tic-tac and gum regimen as well.
So nothing to worry about there. That's clean.
I love that. I think we can make Blake Bortles happen in the next couple weeks.
Yeah. I appreciate it.
Whatever storylines you guys create, I'll neither confirm nor deny. What is your facial hair game like right now? It's kind of tough, honestly.
So I've gone with the shave head, right? We've talked about that. And then the blending of the beard into the short hair on top is definitely an art, and I have not figured that out.
So I get a haircut at the house, and then I kind of shave the face and look like a caveman for a little while, while and then I shave it again so it's uh looking forward to actually going to a real barber here pretty soon which I'm pretty sure they're open so I need to do that what what about uh hair plugs I thought about it I feel like once like the Brian Urlacher thing's tough you know like once you commit to go involved you can't just pop up with hair again I guess this would be a perfect time though. Everybody already knows.
But this is a perfect time. It is true.
All right, what about, forget hair plugs. What about a toupee? No one does toupees anymore.
If you did a toupee and you said it, you're like, yo, it's a fucking toupee, guys. Like, that would get so much great buzz going.
Whether toupee or hair plugs, I've always kind of wanted to do something like that and just show up back on the scene with a full head of hair and just pretend like nothing happened. Yes.
If anybody asked about it, just say, I don't know what you're talking about. This has always been here.
I'm talking something outrageous too, like a ponytail. Ponytail Blake would be an incredible look.
Could you imagine that? Ponytail hanging out of the back of the helmet. I'm telling you.
Runningie league you'd have a little skin showing you'd have to be beating away gms with a stick if you showed up out there like you did a private workout with a ponytail like you would get offers within probably 24 hours i'll work on it i could i mean i could probably grow a ponytail i mean the sides of my head go grow pretty pretty rapidly so it's just the top's a bit behind.

But, I mean, I could get the balding rat tail going for sure. That'd be sick.
That'd be amazing. What about, oh, what about the bucks? Could we get you on the bucks with Brady? Oh, no, here's what we do.
I mean, that'd be pretty sweet. I think Gabbard's still there.
Here's what we do. We just market you.
We got to get you a COVID test, okay? That's step one. We got to get you tested for the antibodies.
And then if you have the antibodies, we just market you as the quarterback who will not get COVID this year. Yes.
So that way, if there's a last minute sub that needs to happen on a Saturday, somebody tests positive, boom, pick up the Blake phone. That's all we need.
Just a safe bet. We already know he's, he's cured of this and doesn't have it and uh he's ready to go and he's not going to infect anybody else right so there's no risk

i love that and you're a great locker room guy too on top of all this so all right we

jake marsh who uh jake marsh who who listens before this goes out we'll actually make a list

and we'll blog it all so just put it out out there like here are the storylines surrounding

blake portals and it's just going to be all like new hair maybe coronavirus also maybe good breath

Thank you. So just put it all out there.
Like here are the storylines surrounding Blake Bortles, and it's just going to be all like new hair, maybe. Coronavirus, also maybe.
Good breath, definitely. I mean, one of these storylines is definitely going to catch on.
Somebody's going to see it and at least think about like, ah, you know, maybe we should call him. Yes, yes.
How's your golf game? Golf game's okay. Playing a lot.
That was one thing. I mean, outside of restaurants, nothing really close down here.
But golf courses stayed open the whole time. So got a lot of golf in.
Kind of winding down now, though. It gets a little hot this time of year here.
So tone it back in touch. Yeah.
We have Billy Football here. I don't even know if you've ever met Billy Football.
Oh, you guys have met Billy. Do you have a question for me? Oh, wait.
My Billy football knowledge

is... So on, Billy.
Hold on.

Hold on. Go ahead, Blake.
Sorry.

Billy, I got to tell you this. I've seen a couple

of Doug's games, and the other night when you gave

the X call right into a pick to that

backside cover to safety, that was a tough one.

Oh, he's making fun of your X call.

And you gave the X call too late and told Big Cat to step up.

Yes. Yes.
Alright, we're getting Billy headphones. He's not – he got triggered.
Yeah. Yeah, in your defense, Big Cat wasn't touch late on it.
I saw what you saw. Hey, Mr.
Bortles, how are you? Billy football, what's going on, bud? So, you know when coaches say you can't throw over the middle late? That's a common, you know, thing, right? Yeah, it's like flying a kite in the forest. You know, so Big Cat, it's a cover two, right, Blake? You get where I'm coming from.
So where do you attack a cover two? Down the pipes and outside. Right, right.
So it's wide open, and he throws it like 10 seconds after the tight end made it. That's not true.
I threw it before you said X. No, no, no.
I said X before the game, before the snap, and you threw it like 10 seconds after you broke. Uh-uh.
Do you have a question for Blake? When are you supposed to throw a bender, Blake? When are you supposed to throw a bender in the middle? I mean, you've got to throw it early. I mean, it sounds to me like the backup quarterback might need to get a little play-in time.

Yeah.

Thank you, Mr. Bortles.

Wait, do you have a question for him?

Do you have a question for him?

He's just trying to turn Blake against you.

Yeah.

No.

Go ahead.

Ask him a question. You can't do that.

Come on, Billy.

Hey, Blake, what's your max squat?

Good question, Billy. Yeah, I couldn't tell you the last time uh we squatted a little bit i mean we don't especially as a quarterback like you're not really maxing out anymore we used to do it in college all the time uh if i had to max out right now to do one rep of squat golly um maybe i could do 300 pounds doubt Doubtful, but maybe a slim chance there, somewhere around there.
Damn, that's still beast. What about bench press? Oh, I haven't legitimately bench pressed since college.
Big dumbbell bench guy, bands, you know, just get the pliability quarterback workout going. Yeah, that's true.
That's true. All coach do you think Ben's press is the most? Oof.
I mean, Vrabel's got to be up there, right? For one, he played. He's still in pretty good shape and relatively young.
Doug's probably up there. He's a big boy.
Yeah, for sure he is. Yeah, I'd have to go Vrabel.
I'd imagine Vrabel probably that contest he absolutely all right i got one last question for you blake um and we're going to talk to you next week at some point i'll text you when we're going to do the blake of the year probably next week um have you talked to anyone about tight end no so i was that was it was a big part of uh really what i spent all last year doing was I'd get out early to practice and make sure when Sean got on the field, um, that, you know,

I'd run a couple of routes by him and have Jared drill some at me just trying,

you know, get it in the back of his head. Like, wow, he can catch.
Uh,

but I got nothing out of that. So, um, it's still out there.

I've kind of floating the idea around people, you know,

telling everybody I can that, you know, give me an opportunity.

I think I could make something happen playing my natural position,

Thank you. I mean, the anti-COVID buzz.
Don't actually get a test because we're just going to say it and then we can worry about actually backing it up later. So we're going to get the buzz going for you being an anti-COVID quarterback, immune to it.
What else is there? The ponytail. The breath.
Willing to play tight end. The breath is great.
Securing Jared from his Fortnite addiction. Yeah, great teammate.
Right. Absorbing teammates' addictions.
How's your pooch punt? Not bad. I'd imagine probably not as good as yours, but I mean serviceable.
Okay, not bad pooch punt. Got it.
Put that on the list too. All right.
I'm excited. I think we're going to get it figured out.
Hopefully we see you soon as well. It's been too long.
You also have a job here if you ever just want to stop football. So, that's always...
Yeah, I think I told you that the other day.

That could be coming up soon. I might

be seeing if I can take Billy Football's

job here soon. Done.

And we'll actually pay you.

We'll pay you. Billy,

we won't, but we'll pay you. Blake just took your job, Billy.

Yeah, Blake just said he wants it your job.

Oh, he just gave up

his crying. Oh, man.
No way,

dude. You could do it so much better.

Just a slice of golf. You would do it so much

Thank you as always. We'll talk to you probably next week.
I'll give you a heads up though, all right? Sounds good. Let me know.
Good talking to you guys. I appreciate the question, Billy.
All right. See you.
See you, man. See you, Blake.
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That's MeUndies.com slash take that's meundies.com slash take and now james connor and now for something completely different okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is pittsburgh steelers running back james connor he has a new book out called fear is a choice a memoir about his his incredible story. Let's start there, James.
For people who don't know your story, and it is an incredible one, you were diagnosed with cancer while at Pittsburgh in college. You were diagnosed while you were checking out your knee, correct? Can you tell exactly how it all went down? Yeah, it was the year 2015.
First game of the season, my junior year, you know, poised to have a big junior year after, you know, a good year in 2014. And yeah, first game of the season, I tear my knee.
And during the rehab for that, trying to make a comeback, just working out, I knew things were off. And, you know, I was shortness of breath, all the symptoms I was having.
And I couldn't put my finger on what it was. And after further testing, you know, through a little process, it was figured out that it was high-strain lymphoma.
And so it was just crazy how that came about. You know, me being a running back, I'm thinking, you know, my knee is like the worst thing that could happen to me.
You know, that I know what was next to come. So, yeah, it was just like a roller coaster, man.
It was a crazy journey. It's been a crazy journey so far.
But here to tell the story today, and so it's a blessing. Yeah, I was reading about that.
So you tore your MCL, right, against Youngstown State? Yes, sir. Yeah, Youngstown State.
Would it be fair to say that Bo Pelini saved your life then? You know, man, everybody played a part in that. Right.
You know. So after you received your diagnosis, I think a lot of us have read your story and heard a lot about you and admire what you've been through and how you persevered.
Was there, were there any like dark moments in the weeks after the initial diagnosis? Or were you always just like dedicated? You were saying, okay, I'm going to lean on my faith. I'm going to lean on the people around me, and we're going to get through this?

Oh, for sure.

There was definitely those dark times.

I tried to, you know, try to remove all negativity, you know,

because I knew that could do nothing for me.

You know, I had a fight ahead of me, and it was going to take, you know,

my max effort, and that is where all my focus needed to be.

But it was definitely, you know, after being at the top of my game in college

and then having to deal with that and, you know, just watching, like,

all the other backs and everybody and watching my teammates going to compete without me uh it was definitely rough so you know it's human nature to have those dark moments and that's where i get the title of the book you know fear is a choice i had a lot of fear you know fear if i ever was going to be able to play again or get back to returning to top shape so there's a couple things but um know, I definitely leaned on my face and my teammates.

And I had so much support from really everybody around the world who helped me get through what I went through. You talk in the book about life's plot twists as well.
And I'd have to imagine you could tell me the the plot twists that have happened in 2020 to America and the world. coronavirus obviously everything that's going on right now with uh people fighting for you know

justice when it comes to the police and Black Lives Matter. Do you have a different perspective when big things like that happen? You're like, look, I've dealt with things.
I know how to overcome these things. Can you cope better than the rest of us that might be dealing with these tough things in life for the first time?

I like to think that I, you know, had to mature early from what I went through at, you know, cancer at 21 and was, you know, forced to do and grow up this early.

But, you know, I'm still hurt and affected by the injustice that's going on in America right now and all that type of those issues that we're facing.

I feel it. And I'm hurting for all the people who lost their lives.
It's very unfortunate. And right now, football kind of needs to take like a backseat.
We got a lot of issues that we need corrected in this country. And so, but I think definitely what I went through, I'm able to just understand.
And I have hope. You know, I was in a really, really dark place.
And hope, I seen a light and then I got pulled out of there and the world and black people are in a dark place right now. But I think if they just have hope, you know, and, you know, make positive efforts towards change, then we can grow.
What has been Mike Tomlin's message to the team? Because I would imagine he is, you know, he's a very noted players coach, players first coach. He always seems to have a really good pulse of his team.
How has he talked to you guys after, you know, everything that's gone on? He's been doing a phenomenal job with bringing us together. You know, Coach was real hurt and affected by it.
You know, his father, you know, went through things. He went through now his now his son is seeing things and so it is tough for him it's tough for all of us really on that team but the beautiful thing about football is you know our whole life everybody on our team we've been in diverse locker rooms and so we kind of know what a brotherhood feels like and so during our meetings we've just been trying to come together and think of ways that we can make a positive change and just continue to raise awareness more than there already has been and just work on something that's going to better the society.
And so we're trying to do all the right things, but we're definitely talking about it and trying to put a play in place. So it sounds like the Steelers are going to be supportive of whatever you guys choose to do, whether that be kneeling during the National Anthem, staying in the locker room, whatever outlet you guys are going to focus on here, the Steelers have your back on this.
Yeah, I agree, man. Our owners, our coaches, our staff, man, everybody from the top down, we're all in, we're all down with the movement.
We all know that there needs to be change. So whatever the Steel the Steelers organizations comes up with me and my teammates I know we're going to be on board that's great on a little lighter note Big Ben just shaved his beard and somehow lost 500 pounds when he shaved it I don't know what it was about the thing that he was growing but it definitely it added a few pounds are you have you have you gone out and worked out with him yet are you excited to play with him are you worried about the first time that he straps on the walking boot after his press conference and and uh and kind of dangles that thing around a little bit yeah so we um you know we we linked up and we were throwing there was a little video that got released of us throwing throwing the field with juju and switzer and man um he looks good out there and so we're definitely excited to have our guy back you know a field with him.
I'm going to do everything I can to make his job easier and getting that run game going. But, man, his presence alone, just him being back out there, you know, it's year 17 for him.
And I know he'll still have those butterflies, and he talks about that, and that's just what makes us play. It makes us play, you know, up to our level.
So I'm excited for his comeback. The whole team is we're going to to rally around him.
It'll be fun. It'll be something special.
Have you thought about bringing the mullet back? I have. I have.
Not the one that I had until I was 18, the first one, when I had the lines on my head and whatnot. But I might grow something out the back.
I'm not sure. But as far as that one cut, no, that one's retired.
The mullet is so nice. So you are like a Pittsburgh legend.
You know, you're from Pennsylvania. You went to Pitt.
You're on the Steelers. What makes – define or explain to everyone outside of Pittsburgh, what exactly is a Yinzer and what makes Yinzer so great? Because we love Pittsburgh.
Man, truthfully, like I said, I played – like you said, I played my college ball here, my professional ball. Really, I'm not even sure the exact definition of a yinzer.
I know that it probably has to be somebody who just – it's Pittsburgh through and through, who loves it, who, you know, is diehard Steeler fan, Pirates, and Penguins, you know, just loves the city. So there's definitely yinzers everywhere around here, but it's nothing but love in the city.
Okay. They treat me cool.
So that's a different definition than I've heard. I've heard a yinzer is heart of gold shit for brains.
I never heard that one. Just like salt of the earth people, just fucking true sports fans, you know, kind of meatball sports fans.
But we love, that's why – I mean, we make fun of everything here, but, like, at the end of the day, we kind of are those meatball sports fans where we take things too seriously and get mad too quickly. Like, that's what I always imagine a Yinzer is, and I love people like that because they are true salt of the earth.
Yeah, we definitely got some fanatic fans who, you know, who go all out for us. And so, you know, that's part of Sailor Nation.
They do it the best. Yeah, that's right.
What is a more important Pittsburgh tradition, the Rib Festival or when they play double renegade at a night game? I don't think nothing really compares to that renegade. You know, it seems like we make a big play every that that that thing comes on so there's nothing like it you know so that's why the fans when the screen goes black and you know the whole crowd gets pumped up and that's something to witness for sure so do you limit do you limit your renegade intake during the week so that it's that much more special on sunday like if you hear it come on the radio do you change the station because you're like i can't deal with't deal with this right now.
That's a Sunday song. Well, you know, any radio station, I'm probably listening to, Renegade's probably not up next on the playlist.
I hear it on game days, and that's enough for me. What's it like having muscles on your back? I'm looking at a picture of you.
What's it like having muscles on your back that I don't even think I have those muscles? Even if I lifted muscles Like even if I lifted forever It's a triangle What the fuck is going on with your back man Man it's just work I've been getting after it man I changed the diet up I've been two times a day All week just getting to it And no I definitely I didn't know I had those muscles on my back either So we were just getting after it in the weight room one day. That's how it happened.
Jesus Christ, you're a fucking beast. You actually, you're one of those people we have guests on every now and then who just make me feel like the smallest person in the world because you beat cancer and you were back the next year for your senior year and were phenomenal and then went and got drafted and played for the Steelers.
There's pretty much nothing you can't do, I would imagine. Man, that's love, bro.
Yeah, you know, I'm just trying to do it big, man. I'm just trying to, you know, give it my all, and it's a blessing.
So everything I'm just trying to take advantage of this life that we're living, it's been nothing but great so far. So I'm trying to be a beast every day.
How many people have come up to you and been like, hey, man, you saved my fantasy season? I got to imagine that was big when Le'Veon Bell decided to sit out. Yeah, that's the only thing I heard for months, you know, during that season and after that.
So it was all love, though. You know, people, they get serious over that fantasy football.
And that lets you hear it, too, when you're not performing. So it's cool, though.
Dude, that actually, we're kind of joking about that, but that actually makes you a legend for life. Like people, fantasy owners will always remember a running back or a wide receiver that comes in and saves their season.
So, like, in 20 years, people will be like, remember that year, James Conner? That was sick. Well, I hope I can put some more years together and not just hold on to one year.
No, it's true. Yeah, yeah.
But I'm saying you have that one. Like Most people don't have that one.
You have that one for sure. And it's also because that one year you weren't necessarily the highest touted running back going into that season.
You were kind of a question mark coming in for Le'Veon. So people probably picked you up in the seventh, eighth round, something like that, and then you put up that season.
I've been learning a little bit more about it. I don't play fantasy football, so I never understood why I was so big.
But then I realized that I called it a steal and all of that. So, you know, I'm starting to get the hang of it a little bit.
Has anybody paid you money, like giving you a cut of what they want in fantasy football and been like, hey, fair is fair. Here you go.
Here's a little taste. Nah, nah, I ain't get that.
Nobody broke me off that. So, you know, I just let everybody keep their money, man.
It's all good. When when you're playing and big ben comes up limping are you ever nervous or you're like nah he's like this happens all the time he'll be fine i know if he can play he can go so um i've seen him a couple times and you know he just continues to play on so um most of the time man he plays through it all he's really a beast and and so you know i really don't get too worried about it.
I just hope it's nothing, ever nothing serious. Yeah, yeah.
What about the Duck Magic last year? Our good friend Devlin Hodges, has he taught you how to do a Duck call? He's been trying, but, you know, now he's the expert. He got all types of trophies for it, and he's a legend in that game.
But, yeah, man, when Duck came in, he did awesome, man. You know, he's such a cool dude, man we had a great vibe and and we and we was he was rolling you know for a couple weeks so I know he's decided to get back to it as well.
I always wondered when you when you did come in for Le'Veon Bell uh was the offensive line like really really excited that they were able to block for somebody that would actually hit the hole? Yeah man you know um you know I I remember in a preseason game, my first preseason game in 2018, and we took the field, and I think we scored in like three running plays. And it was just like, man, you know, the line, you know, they hyped me up, man.
They showed a lot of love. They rallied behind me with the situation, you know, and they was just like, we're going to roll with whoever's there.
They still had all the love and respect for Le'Veon but um I just remembered and it was like just riling behind me and that I think that made it easier yeah when it comes to Bell he's obviously an extremely talented player he's an awesome running back I don't think anyone's going to dispute that but I would also think at the same time like it's easier for an offensive lineman who likes to move forward who likes to get into that rhythm having a dude like you that's going to just like go in there and just crack some skulls. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
That's what I'm trying to get to the line on how to hold their blocks for too long. They made it work with Le'Veon.
He had, obviously, great seasons after seasons. So I think a couple different styles of work, but I'm just going to continue to keep playing my game.
I'm sure you've been asked this, but it's the time we're asking you this after the uh famous miles garrett mason rudolph fight uh last year what was it like walking off that field were you just like what the fuck just happened there yeah that was that was crazy i was um in a locker room when it all happened and went down and i just like honestly couldn't couldn't believe my eyes that that just happened and so so it was definitely chaotic. I just hope nothing like that ever happens again.
But it was definitely just that to ride back and all that. We just kind of couldn't believe what just happened.
It was ugly. Yeah.
But at the same time, you're like, I'm very glad that I'm friends with Marquise Pouncey. Yes.
Right. Yeah.
That didn't surprise nobody on the team. We know Pounce is going to ride regardless, no matter the situation, whatever it is.
He's the ultimate teammate. That's true.
All right, I have one last question. So we're talking to James Conner right now, Pittsburgh Steelers running back.
He's got a new book out. It is called Fear is a Choice.
You've got to read it in an incredible story. going back to your story you're you get diagnosed with cancer you go through chemo you beat cancer you come back for your senior year you have uh a thousand yards rushing 16 touchdowns and then after that or i don't know when you said it but you were 60 you said you were 60% of your strength that senior year.
That's fucking incredible. Could you really feel it? Like, man, I would have made this guy miss or I would have outran this guy if I hadn't just beat cancer and coming off of that.
No question. You know, that's why I put a little post up on Instagram about how I was feeling during my training, trying to come back for that season.

But, you know, even when I say 60%, I'm kind of just throwing a number out there.

You know, I just knew it wasn't 100.

Early on in the season versus Villanova, I mean, I was exhausted.

Nobody knows this.

I was exhausted running out the tunnel, you know, for the first game of the season.

And I just remember standing there for the national anthem, like, you know,

like out of breath from running out the tunnel.

That's how, you know, still how much, you know, because 12 rounds of chemotherapy, that takes a toll on you. And so I just was like, yeah, I got to play this whole game.
You know, I'm starting and all of that. And I'm already tired before the game started.
But slowly, you know, week after week, it started to build back up. And then versus Clemson, you know, I had some late runs in the fourth, some big runs.
And I was like, okay, it's coming back a little bit. But, I mean, like I said, people, it takes, you know, almost, you know I had some late runs in the fourth some big runs and I was like okay it's coming back a little bit but I mean like I said people it takes you know almost you know year year and some to recover for from 12 rounds of chemo and I had to do it in like two months so it was definitely rushed but you know we we made it work yeah yeah I actually have one last last question sorry uh you recently bought your dad a truck so awesome video but when you buy your dad a truck you you were doing it because of the kindness of your heart but was there a small part of you like this shit is gonna go so fucking viral and it's gonna be awesome because those videos are the best those videos are the fucking best no honestly no when i first got to the league or it might have been my last year, my boy's Aaron Donald bought his dad a truck.

And it was recording.

And his dad was super excited about it.

And me, I know my dad.

I know that he's been wanting a truck for a while.

I knew his reaction was going to be.

Oh, he did well.

He sold it.

He sold it well.

No, man, it was honestly, I was bringing the car up to Erie to surprise him but he would actually come down to pittsburgh to see uh for some meetings and to stop and see me and so that's why i think it hit the way it did because it was honestly like a true like reaction like i didn't expect him to see like to see him that that fast so it's kind of crazy how that played out so um you know well we needed something positive and and i gave that so that's just what it was it's an awesome video i love those videos six million views 35 000 or 36 000 retweets there's but the small part of you was like yeah this is going to be awesome when it hits twitter right that's what you want me to say no i mean you know like i listen if i mean what do people put anything on twitter right theyweeted. Right.
Like, it's 99% is like, this is awesome. I'm buying my dad a truck.
And 1% is like, this is going to be sick. People are going to be like, holy shit.
It's 99 to 1. Yeah, right.
I mean, also, yeah, there's also going to be, like, millions of people that see that awesome ACDC shirt that you're wearing, too. Yes.
That's actually the bigger flex, I think, is the ACDC shirt. Yeah.
I'm just just you know i had to represent so that shirt was dope did you get did you get it fully like everything in the inside all set up like the the the computer system and everything all the upgrades yeah it's dope why you know he just had to set up the wi-fi in there and do his music and all that and you know he's a simple man so you know he didn't even want to do all that technology stuff he He just wanted to, you know, he was excited that it was push start. Because I always, the cynical part of me is like someone buys, you know, one of those videos drops, and it's like they bought, like, the base model with none of the upgrades.
No, I didn't do it like that. Felt seats and stuff.
I didn't do it like that. You can tell the wheels.
The wheels are an upgrade already on that thing. Yeah, yeah.
Ice Cube quote tweeted it. That's pretty awesome.
When Ice Cube acknowledges you as being like, hey, this guy's flexing, that's pretty cool. We should do that for our internet dad, Mike Flurry.
We should rent him a truck. We'll put a bow on it.
We'll videotape it. Dropping it off for him and be like, here you go, dad.
And then after he gets in and starts driving around, be like, yeah, it's rented. And the retweets are real.
Yeah. You can't take the retweets.
Yeah, I'm retweet that shit. Enterprise needs to come pick that up by 5 o'clock tonight.
Well, James, thank you so much, man. This has been awesome.
Everyone go out and buy James' book, Fear is a Choice. Unbelievable story.
We're rooting for you. I'm sneaky.
People make fun of me around here because I'm a Bears fan, but for some reason I always fall in love with the Steelers in season. Last year I was convinced that you guys, if you had gotten in, you would have made a run because that defense was just fucking awesome.
I always sell myself. I think it's Big Ben slash the uniforms, but I always sell myself on the Steelers.
Those uniforms at night. Yeah.
I always do. Late November, you don't want to play there at nighttime.
The black with the lights in it, home field, or anything like that. Make sure you're not sleeping with my boy Mitch, though.
I think Mitch is going to come out. Yes, there we go.
Let's go. Get him hyped up.
ACC for life. That's my dog.
That's my dog. Yeah, I played Mitch senior year in high school.
We've been going at it., it's Steelers-Bears, even though, you know, I wasn't playing that year. That was 2017.
I was sitting. But, no, I think Mitch, I know his work ethic, man.
I know what he's about to do. So he's going to come out fired up.
That was essentially like you buying me a truck. So thank you.
There you go. Yeah.
You know, I'm just as hyped. Yeah, like that was our truck moment right there.
No, we'll get some retweets off this too. You just like showed it's Mr.
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Make sure you watch it. We'll review it on Friday's show.
Before we go, though, we wanted to give the female listeners a chance to sound off. We did the Mount Rushmore, Mount Flushmore of things guys do that girls hate on Monday's show.
So we're going to reverse it here. We got the submissions.
Things that girls do that guys hate that girls have submitted. Hank, clap back.
Go. When girls talk about reality TV shows, even though guys constantly talk about barstool drama.
That's actually a very fair point. Mm-hmm.
Very fair point. It's different, though.
We're the Kardashians. With no sports going on, there's like a big overlap there.
Yeah. We're talking about Top Chef.
You talk about Real Housewives. Yeah.
Outer Banks. Well, that's the Venn diagram.
That's where we're finding the middle chicks on guys what guys hate when i keep explaining why i'm mad after he already apologized uh yeah i agree that it's like once i understand why you're mad and i've said sorry what else can i do there's that there's literally nothing i can do there's nothing worse than giving the uh sorry that's not accepted you're like uh because you know in your head, in a guy's brain, it's basically playing Monopoly.

The get out of jail free card is just saying sorry.

Like, I was wrong.

I'm sorry.

And then when you get the, no, what are you even apologizing for?

It's just that.

You're like, I'm sorry you're mad.

Sorry that I apologized without knowing what I was apologizing for.

Yeah, that's on us. When girls gasp while they're driving.
Oh, yes. Yeah.
When there's like a person crossing the street 150 yards away. Oh, my God.
Oh, when a girl gasps while you're driving. Yes.
Okay. Yes.
Oh, watch out. Yeah.
Did you even see that dog? Yeah. Did you see that box in the middle of the highway? We could have hit it.
No, the worst is when they're gasping at something on their phone, and it's not even outside. Yeah, and you're like, what, what? You like slam on the brakes? It's probably the dude she's fucking cock.
It's like, oh, come on. Ooh.
I like some of these responses. You can tell that the girl is listening in real time because she started with like five oohs like she was like ooh yeah uh ooh when they buy you an expensive ass dinner and you eat like two bites and then she made this the i don't actually bonus if you say you're hungry later i don't actually that that part is bad but i don't hate it because i just eat it i just eat everything there's no problem play club i don't really have a problem with that because I was going to spend the money anyways.
And so as long as I'm getting my, as long as I'm eating mine. And you get the credit for the nice dinner.
I will eat off of another person's plate. No question.
I actually usually don't even notice. I'm just like, I ate my food.
My steak was great. Yeah.
When it's a one night stand in the morning, you're looking forward to some solid sex you know start the day off right and you quickly realize they're a literal two pump chump and come in two seconds then proceeds to roll over and go back to sleep but you're at your own apartment so it's not like you can leave so you walk around the bed banging shit loudly hoping they get up and leave and then they have no situational awareness so they don't leave for another five hours. Wait.
This has happened to me five, at least three times. Wait, that's the thing that girls hate.
Guys don't hate guys. No, she's saying...
Sounds like the guy got an orgasm and five hours of extra sleep. It sounds like she is totally on board with a two-pump chump.
Yeah. Clears up the rest of the day.
It's efficient sex. Blocking all the girls.
No, seriously, Back in the day, if we're looking at prehistoric times, it was super advantageous to nut early. Because then you just move on.
And you're not stationary, so there are no predators that can track you down. Blocking all the girls I don't trust on his phone at night when he's sleeping.
Yeah, that's kind of a psycho move. Yeah, I probably don't like that.
Things girls do that guys hate when they can't decide on where to eat. Uh-huh.
Yeah. know what do you want to do and then you throw out a couple options and it's quick like no i don't feel like that's like we'll just fucking say it because i'm gonna i'm a guy i will literally eat anything my response is going to be either burgers chinese food pizza yeah wings i'll eat garbage and then i will eat garbage i'll say i'll say uh burgers oh we just had burgers right i i heard a trick, because they're awesome.
You ask them, and you go, where do you think I'm taking you to eat? And then whatever they say, you take them to. So them choosing.
Wow. That's good, Billy.
Bro, did you take psych in college? No. It shows.
No. Another good trick is to say, why do you ask? Because a lot of times, why do you ask will spare you from having to make the decision.
Like if the girl says, why do you ask because a lot of times why do you ask will

spare you from having to make the decision like if if the girl says what do you want to have for dinner why do you ask maybe they're gonna be like well i was thinking that we could order from the italian place down the street and then it's boom problem solved last two uh taking forever to get ready to go out yep and then last one uh that actually i don't mind it that's one of those things that if you're younger, it might bother you. But as you get older, you realize the timing of things.
And that's just free time. Yeah, exactly.
That's free play. That's a rain delay that you get before going out.
You know what that time is? That's sit on the couch and refresh Twitter every two seconds time. Right, right.
And not have to feel bad about it. Not feel bad at all.
In fact, then she'll come out of the bathroom and be like i'm so sorry i took so long you're like you know what it's fine and then she feels good because you forgave her yeah and it's also one of those things that like the the older you get the less excited you get to go places so the longer uh someone takes to get ready you thinking, if this lasts a little bit longer,

we might just say,

fuck it, let's not go.

Yeah, exactly.

Which is a great feeling to have.

It's like the same feeling that you had

when your teacher was like 15 minutes late

and you're like,

substitute?

It's just fucking thrilling.

When we ask you guys

to take a picture of us and our friends

and we usually don't get the perfect picture

until the 30th shot.

Yes.

Occasionally bad.

But then it gives you the opportunity

to pull the classic gag

of flipping the camera on yourself

I think it's So, Friday. Hopefully.
We're doing them tomorrow.

I don't want to jinx it.

So, Friday.

Hopefully.

No jinxing it.

All right.

What's the documentary called?

Three Perfect Strangers.

Shut the fuck up.

Really?

See everyone Friday. Love you guys.

I'm talking away. I don't know what to say.
I'll say it anyway. Today is my day to find you.
Shine it away. I'm coming for your love of pain.
Needless say I won't set in But I need some little faith Slowly learn that life is okay Say after me At least we're better to be safe than sorry Say after me At least we're better to be safe than sober. Say unto me.
A place for better to be safe and sober.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey.

Hey. You're the one who's been gone You're the one who's been gone Things that you say isn't a lot of love Just to play my very way You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway

He's shying away

I'll be coming for you anyway

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me Take on me Take me on I'll take you.

Take me. Take me.

Take me.

Take me.

Take me.