Dana White, Booger McFarland And Sour Grapes Documentary Review

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part in my take, we have a twofer Friday twofer.
We got Dana White ahead of UFC 250. And then we have Booger McFarland, good friend, recurring guest Booger McFarland.

Speaker 1 We get into everything with him that's happened the past week. Drew Brees and Peloton, more, everything with him.

Speaker 1 We also have Firefest of the Week, the NBA is back, and our review of Sour Grapes, a documentary we watched this week. I'm not going back to college to be your friend.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, June 5th, and the NBA is back.

Speaker 1 Let's go, NBA.

Speaker 1 29 out of 30 teams voted to start the season up again late July, going into potentially, what, October 15th? October 12th, 12th? October 12th.

Speaker 1 It's the last day that could happen, could have an NBA game. It'd be a Monday night.
That would be game seven of the NBA Finals. I'm so excited.
That would be Columbus Day, I think.

Speaker 1 That would be incredible. That would be incredible.

Speaker 1 You're going to do Columbus Day this year? Sea Day.

Speaker 1 I'm doing C-Day.

Speaker 1 Sea Day this year is going to be incredible. Yes.
I was looking at the schedules coming up. September 20th is going to be a hell of a day in sports.

Speaker 1 It's going to be the day when all the sports align. We're going to have NBA playoffs.
We're going to have hockey playoffs. We're going to have last week.

Speaker 1 Not a major sport. We're going to have last week.

Speaker 1 No, hockey doesn't count. Hockey doesn't count.
Max Kellerman said not one of the major four sports. What's the fourth? MLS? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just saw that and and I was like, oh, Max Kellerman at it again.

Speaker 1 Wasn't in the news cycle for a couple times,

Speaker 1 for a couple days.

Speaker 1 Probably was sitting there watching the world burn and was like, you know what? I really got to get Max Kellerman's name in this. Hockey is not one of the major sports.

Speaker 1 Well, he probably was saying that boxing is still a major sport. If it's Max Kellerman, so it's boxing, it's football.
But anyways, September 20th is going to be the perfect sports. sports day.

Speaker 1 I'm very much looking forward to it. I want them to get Joe Buck doing his thing where he gets on like a different different mode of transportation.
You've got also golf, the U.S. Open.

Speaker 1 That's the final round of that on that day. I want him driving to like four different venues to call four separate sports on the same day.
Clear your schedule. So the NBA is back.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for this. They're all going to be playing in

Speaker 1 a bubble, not really a bubble, in Orlando, three different sites. They're playing eight regular season games to finish it.
Oh, they're not calling it regular season games.

Speaker 1 They're calling them seeding games.

Speaker 1 And then it's pretty much, it's pretty pretty basic. The only fun twist they have, and it's pretty, it's, it's basically Adam Silver could have gotten in front of the nation, been like, hey, guys,

Speaker 1 Zion, have you heard of him? Kind of a big deal. And we want to make sure that he's involved in this no matter what.
So here are our Zion Williamson rules.

Speaker 1 And that is one that they invited everyone, you know, past

Speaker 1 these teams past the eighth seed. They could have just done the playoffs.

Speaker 1 They could have been like, we'll do a little warm-up, and then the seeds are the seeds, but the New Orleans Pelicans are right now the 10th seed. So we got to get Zion in there.

Speaker 1 And then the extra Zion rule, which I love, if the ninth seed is within four games of the eighth seed, they then play in a special elimination tournament to decide the eighth seed.

Speaker 1 And the tournament is simply, if the eighth seed has to beat the ninth seed once, the ninth seed has to beat the eighth seed twice. Jesus, that's okay.
That's an unnecessary complication.

Speaker 1 Adam Silver could have just simplified everything and been like, you know what? So how does it break down? Zion's in the playoffs. How does it just put Zion in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 How does it break down conference by conference? Because the initial plan I saw was the East gets nine teams.

Speaker 1 And the West gets, what, 11? Yeah, so it's nine teams in the East, and

Speaker 1 no, 13 in the West. 13 in the West.
So nine teams in the East, and the Wizards are your ninth team, but they are five and a half games back.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be hard for them to get even into that, let's play, a playoff game.

Speaker 1 So that probably is decided. The East is probably decided.
The West. What are the Nets? The Nets are the seventh seed, right?

Speaker 1 That could be interesting

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 there are two players out there that

Speaker 1 are very much going to benefit Kevin Duran are officially a go or not. We don't know.
We don't know. But if the Nets get into the playoffs, Kyrie and KD

Speaker 1 on this weird, fucking weird-ass season and everything's up in the air. And they're like, yeah, you know what? Let's fuck up our next season.

Speaker 1 That would be wild, though, to have them both come back for the playoffs. They would play the Raptors if the playoffs started today.

Speaker 1 And then in the West,

Speaker 1 we will have, so it's the eight seeds that are currently in the playoffs, the Grizzlies being the eighth seed.

Speaker 1 They're three and a half games up on the Blazers, the Pelicans, the Kings, and they're four games up on the Spurs. So it's really the Zion rule.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they want to figure out a way to get Zion in the playoffs, and I am all for that.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, honestly, if they had just made it eight and eight, we would be here being like, Adam Silver, figure out a way to get Zion in the playoffs, right?

Speaker 1 Um, so and then the champion is going to have like no time to have a turnaround because, like we said, the October or the teams that are in the finals will have no time to turn around because they'll be going to mid-October.

Speaker 1 I would assume that the new season will start sometime in December. And when is the finals for the Knicks, the draft lottery?

Speaker 1 The draft lottery is going to be on, so the draft lottery is August 25th, and then the draft is going to be on October 15th, no matter what. Okay.
And

Speaker 1 the saddest thing that they've ever come up with because they want to make sure that there's no team with 10 month layoff is they're going to have like a simulated, not shoot around, but

Speaker 1 mini camp for the 10 teams.

Speaker 1 Or excuse me, the eight teams that didn't make the bubble. That is sad.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we can just go ahead and forego that. Pathetic.
Now, all right, so it's going to be in Orlando. Is it going to be all at like Disney World Epcot Center?

Speaker 1 No, it's going to, so they're going to all be in a hotel. They're taking over a hotel.
They're going to let no fans. They're going to let family members be there.

Speaker 1 It's said that the players can, there's going to be some wiggle room with like restaurants and playing golf, but it's going to be weird, but we have sports back. Is Orlando ready to go?

Speaker 1 My big question is: is the medieval times in Orlando going to be opened up? It's a great question. Is the Chili's at the airport? We canceled that one.
Remember that? Because they fired all their

Speaker 1 fire. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 they might. No, they fired him because the

Speaker 1 unemployment was actually going to pay him more. Is that what happened? Yeah.
After they had them clean out the restaurant. Okay, yeah.
We can still eat at that point.

Speaker 1 So that's the NBA news. We obviously have big news that Drew Brees has been officially canceled.
He is retired. Not actually.
We're going to get to that with Booger.

Speaker 1 I don't know really what to like.

Speaker 1 We were talking about it before the show. It now has become about Drew Brees this entire past week, which is so stupid.
The conversation has moved to

Speaker 1 whether or not it was right to go at Drew Brees. Can Drew Brees have an opinion interview?

Speaker 1 That's not what the issue is. And I did look it up right now.
He was doing, it was a hit for Wrangler Jeans. Ah.
So it was a sponsored hit. Wrangler got their money.

Speaker 1 Actually, it should have been Real Comfortable Jeans with a G. Yeah.
Wrangler. Damn.
So we do have a discussion about that with Booker.

Speaker 1 We thought it'd be perfect to have him on because he's a Louisiana native. He played in the NFL.
He knows Drew Brees. That was very good.

Speaker 1 Anything else we got cooking right now that we want to throw out there? Oh, yeah, we should say.

Speaker 1 Billy just perked up. What do you got? Jake Fromms canceled too.
Oh, Jake Fromms actually. Yeah, he's bad.

Speaker 1 He's very bad. Bad Jake.
Bad. Is Joe Flacco allowed to own guns, Jake Fromm? Bad Jake.

Speaker 1 Bad job, Jake. I don't know what's going to happen.
I don't think they've made any decisions.

Speaker 1 Or Jake, if he didn't pay attention while he listens to the show beforehand, he's going to freak out if he just woke up to the bad Jake. Bad.

Speaker 1 Tiny thumbs deliver big racism. By the way, just a little shout out real quick to Jake Marsh, doing a great job with the terrible sports memories.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The one he had a couple days ago, if you're not following our Twitter account, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 But Jake Marsh is tweeting out this day in sports history, and we tasked him with finding the most boring, dumbest events.

Speaker 1 And he had one the other day that was Steph Curry moves his mic an inch to the left in a post-game press conference.

Speaker 1 I liked that one, and I also liked the kid that came in sixth place in the national spelling beat.

Speaker 1 And then it turns out that that kid follows part of my take on Twitter, and he did not expect to wake up in the morning and be reminded about losing in the sixth round of the spelling.

Speaker 1 That was like Mike Glennon waking up yesterday. Oh, Mike Glennon,

Speaker 1 reading on Twitter that who was on the Bears that said

Speaker 1 Hakeem Hicks said when he was asked, should Colin Kaepernick be an NFL quarterback? His response was, we signed Mike Glennon.

Speaker 1 We signed Mike Glennon and is now, I think it replaces Rex as our quarterback in Bears Lore now because we signed Mike Lennon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we signed Mike Lennon.

Speaker 1 I was all in on Mike Lennon.

Speaker 1 I have no problem admitting that when we signed Mike Lennon, I was like, Mike Glennon is good.

Speaker 1 And I was wrong. You were very wrong about that.
But that's okay. Think about it sometimes.
Sometimes you just got to be wrong to be right.

Speaker 1 Colin Kaepernick has played on zero teams in the last three seasons. Mike Lennon has played on three teams.
So who's in more demand? Yeah. So there you go.
I remember vividly, I was driving down.

Speaker 1 I flew into Memphis. I was driving down to Arkansas for the Arkansas Derby, and I was listening to the Cubs on the radio.

Speaker 1 It was a Friday afternoon, and Mike Glennon was throwing out the first pitch and doing the seventh-inning stretch. And they had him in the booth.
Did he bounce it? And

Speaker 1 he was like, yeah, you know, I'm just ready to have a team be my team and take this team and just be the leader that I know I can be. And I was like, you know what? Mike fucking Glennon.

Speaker 1 This guy gets it. We signed Mike Glennon.
We should also mention: as Father's Day is approaching, we're all dads on this podcast now. Right.
We're all dads because we adopted a minor league player.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're going to say that today? Yeah, why not? Okay. We adopted a minor league player.
Yeah. So there's, you know, a lot of teams aren't paying their minor leaguers.

Speaker 1 They've kind of disbanded their teams for the rest of the season. There's a program where you can adopt a minor league player and they just assign you one at random.

Speaker 1 So we were assigned this guy at random. His name is Jaden.
His name is Jaden Murray. What's his Twitter handle? He's a pitcher for the Hudson Valley Renegades in the Tampa Bay Rays program.

Speaker 1 I'll pull up his Twitter program for Jaden Murray 44. Jaden.
That's a girl.

Speaker 1 He was born on April 11th. I'm just stalling right now until I can pull up his Twitter handle and tell you.
It's at Murray underscore Jaden 08. So he's from Utah.
He's from Bernal, Utah.

Speaker 1 Jaden underdog.

Speaker 1 23rd round draft pick. So real underdog story.

Speaker 1 At Murray.

Speaker 1 At Murray, underdog. No A in Murray?

Speaker 1 With an A. Underdog.
At Murray, underscore, Jaden 08. Jaden 08.
So we're all dads now. My underscore is in the wrong place.

Speaker 1 Jaden, what are you going to get me? That's really why I adopted him. Okay, he's got 243 followers.
He needs to have at least 1,000 followers by the time we wake up tomorrow. Jaden Murray.

Speaker 1 All right, let's just quickly make sure he hasn't tweeted anything. What Twitter search are you doing right now? I'm going to.

Speaker 1 He's from Utah. Search for darn.
American flag

Speaker 1 kneeling. No.

Speaker 1 Nothing on Barsville, so that's good. That's a good sign.
Okay. He could have said something bad.

Speaker 1 He only has like 300 tweets, so I think he's good. That would suck, though, if we got someone canceled.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be very bad. Also, you should do actually a real search for that.
A deep dive?

Speaker 1 A deep dive. Billy, can you do that for me?

Speaker 1 Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You just had Billy do that? i i feel like that's the worst person to put in charge of anything important ever cya move for me

Speaker 1 i'm gonna find out if he's like okay oh actually i don't billy i don't want your head going into that space i don't trust your judgment pft

Speaker 1 to put billy in charge of anything all right so he this year so far or excuse me 2019 he was 0-2 with a 2.88 era that's pretty good

Speaker 1 And he's not bad at hitting either. Looks like he's a...
Oh, no, that's the average against him. He had 37 strikeouts in 2019.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, we got a guy, Jaden Murray. Jaden Murray, congratulate.
Welcome to the family. I was wondering how you would try to cuck my first Father's Day for real.
It feels good.

Speaker 1 It feels good to be a dad. We're all dads now.
I mean, I don't really know what even you're supposed to do on Father's Day besides be like, today's the day I get to sleep in.

Speaker 1 Don't bother me on the toilet. If you had a lawn, you would mow it.
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 Have a cup of

Speaker 1 coffee in bed. There you go.

Speaker 1 Someone buy me a tie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're allowed to fall asleep on the couch and not get woken up for five minutes. Perfect.
Perfect. All right, let's do our fire fest before we get to Dana White.

Speaker 1 We're also going to review Sour Grapes at the end of the show. So we've got Dana White and Booger McFarlane coming up.
Then we have Sour Grapes review. Fire Fest of the Week.
Who wants to go first?

Speaker 1 Liam, do you have one? Yeah. Liam's got one.
So, Bubba, go ahead. Hank is on vacation still.
By the way, Hank not only...

Speaker 1 didn't reply to the chin.

Speaker 1 He just didn't reply to the replies to the chin.

Speaker 1 Like, I tweeted hank it's past 10 o'clock he didn't even give us the dignity of replying to that he is so far off the grid right now when he checks twitter it's like the most recent notification that he looked at was 11 hours ago it's good too because i was actually did the nice the nice boss thing of not yelling at him about something different

Speaker 1 to not ruin his vacation but now i know that he doesn't listen to this now so hank your ass is mine when you come back your ass in the fucking jackpot he's not gonna listen so i'm not ruining his vacation right

Speaker 1 that's That's totally fair.

Speaker 4 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 4 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed: roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk, chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 4 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 4 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Bubba.

Speaker 5 So I think it was Monday night. I have everything run through my Xbox.
I have YouTube TV.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Flipping through channels and the batteries die in the controller. I'm stuck on the guide.
Because of the curfew, I couldn't go out and get new batteries. I ripped apart everything in my apartment.

Speaker 5 And so it was just like the little square in the corner is what I could watch. Everything else was stuck on the guide.

Speaker 1 So you're watching on like the R. Kelly TV.
You had no other batteries in your house?

Speaker 1 No, but that's why you have to have a remote control that you don't know what it does specifically so you can break into that one

Speaker 1 and put it in the other one.

Speaker 5 And what's even worse is when they died, I took them out of the other Xbox controller like a week before.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 5 I knew I had time that like I could have gotten them.

Speaker 1 You didn't rub it. Do you rub it together? Did you?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you can sit on them sometimes. Usually you get like at least one last, you know, five minutes.
Fuck. So was the square bigger or smaller than your laptop?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Probably should just watch on your laptop then.
Yeah. Shit.
No, I did. No, I just watched it.
That's brutal. That is brutal.
That is brutal.

Speaker 1 Good Firefest. Billy.
How long do you think you can go without replacing the batteries?

Speaker 5 Oh, I already did. I bought like a 20-pack.
It wouldn't happen again.

Speaker 1 Billy?

Speaker 1 That's why PS4 chargeable remotes.

Speaker 1 So my Fire Fest was pronouncing words. Yep, sure was.
Like, Like, which words? Like, words that I read all the time, but I don't say that much. You're doing a great job filling in for Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I know how they're spelt. Now, Billy, did you get this Firefest from Twitter? Because you did tweet someone give me a Fire Fest real quick.

Speaker 1 Well, the whole concept of Firefest, I was thinking about because you guys bounce around with it, but then once

Speaker 1 Bubba said it, now I kind of got a better grasp of it. Did you also not want to pick your fire?

Speaker 5 I'm not convinced Billy listens to part of the film.

Speaker 1 No, he's never listened to Party. I do.
He's never listened. I don't think he had any

Speaker 1 firefest. No, he's never listened to a single episode.
Billy, did you not want to do your Fire Fest of

Speaker 1 last night you tried to tweet out, hey, everyone, drop your tape for your senior year and we'll help you get recruited. And then you got summarily trolled by the entire internet.
Okay, you know what?

Speaker 1 I mean, a lot of guys aren't going to play their senior year because of what's happening. So I was like, okay, let's like, I was once a high school kid trying to get recruited.
It's hard.

Speaker 1 Way back in the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I was like, might as well just provide some exposure for some guys that are like.
How many college football coaches do you think follow you on Twitter?

Speaker 1 A lot of like Jugo and D3 like coaches. It's actually, it's honestly, it's kind of dope.
So you were signal boosting. You're like, hey, let's get the word out there.

Speaker 1 And then everyone, I saw there were some funny replies. I saw some

Speaker 1 just random clips. Yeah.
I had to do it. Like Rudy, Hoosiers.
Yeah, people were just

Speaker 1 random things. Just trying to help.
Your heart was in the right place, Billy. That's what's important.
But yeah, you did get trolled, and yes, you mispronounced John Bond Jones.

Speaker 1 So I think we're just changing. We're going to have to call him John Bond Jones from now on.
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of cooler. Yeah.
Yeah. Bones is a little too like a

Speaker 1 John Bond Jones. But you know, you nailed the bones part.

Speaker 1 Rock it out. Yeah, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 My fire fest of the week. Rock out with your cockout, right?

Speaker 1 Is

Speaker 1 I said, so I went on another podcast yesterday. I went on Erica's podcast, and I said that I was bored a couple weeks ago because there was nothing to do.

Speaker 1 So I went on just anyone who would invite me on their podcast. I did that for like a week.

Speaker 1 And now I've got people starting podcasts, and

Speaker 1 I'm getting podcast interviews. I'm going to brag about how fucking popular.

Speaker 1 I'm getting podcast interview requests left and right. So here's what I'm going to do.
This week I will do

Speaker 1 one random podcast per day

Speaker 1 starting on Monday.

Speaker 1 What? Sick brag. I'll do one random podcast a day starting on Monday.
Okay. And but the criteria is it has to have between one and two hundred followers on Twitter.

Speaker 1 So it can't be like a brand new podcast.

Speaker 5 More random, the better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the more random.

Speaker 1 I don't want to, I'll do one sports podcast.

Speaker 1 But besides that, it's just I want to be, I want to go on the randomest podcast, and they need to be a small audience, but not small enough that they're just starting.

Speaker 1 Like one that's maybe been around, put out five or six episodes, you've forgotten about it. Right in that sweet spot, I will do one a day.
I'll do five podcasts, and then I'm done. Then I'm done.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, there it is.

Speaker 1 How is that a fire fest? My fire fest is. People were asking you to, you're so popular that people were asking you to come on.
My firefest is

Speaker 1 I don't like turning people down to do stuff like that. Got it.
Got it. So I'm getting it all out of my system next week.
Got it. But you are going to be turning a bunch of people down.

Speaker 1 No, we're going to focus on the five that I will be doing. But you're going to be turning

Speaker 1 on the five that I will be doing.

Speaker 1 Anyone who PFT turns down, I will not go on your podcast, but I will read your podcast name, those aggrieved. Okay,

Speaker 1 we'll do a whole section where I say these are the podcasts that PFT just completely ignores. I'm not ignoring them, but I do want them to be weird.
I'm talking like gardening shit. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 You think like anything podcasts? There might be. I hope so.

Speaker 1 That'll take first consideration. Gardening.
If you have a gardening podcast, I like that. I'll go on it.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Gardening, maybe a

Speaker 1 whoo. Let's Let's think.
What's the

Speaker 1 difference? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe like

Speaker 1 someone who's big into bugs. Yeah, I'll go on a bug podcast.
A bug podcast.

Speaker 1 If you...

Speaker 1 Marsupials, just any animal.

Speaker 1 The more specific, the better. Bro, someone, please, I guarantee you someone has like, can we make one exception? Can I get one exception? Can I pick one that might be like bigger?

Speaker 1 Do you have one in mind? No, but I'm hoping that this exists. Like someone's re-watching like friends or something.
I would love can I get friends rewatchable

Speaker 1 that I get to help decide? Yeah, you can decide one of them. If anyone has a true friends re-watchable podcast, but it has to have already started, so I'll know.

Speaker 1 We'll know, but I want PFT to have to start watching Friends. The only thing I know about Friends is

Speaker 1 Pivot. Did they say Pivot? We were on a break.

Speaker 1 Someone has to have that sick fuck. Haha, you sick fuck you was on it for a while.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 someone who has a real friends rewatchable podcast, PFT will call it.

Speaker 1 That fucking dog, dog too the ceramic dog i love it the idea you have to watch like a a season of friends yeah you know what here's it here's the new rule i will do five podcasts next week they all have to be weird topics and they all have to be things that i have no idea whatsoever about like completely lost okay i like it i like it um all right my fire fest is simple i uh

Speaker 1 i wrote down the wrong website that eric roth told us has like all the horse racing secrets and uh i found a website that sounded like what i wrote down and then I've lost every single bet since.

Speaker 1 I thought you won a pick five when Daniel. I did today but that wasn't from that website.
Okay. That was

Speaker 1 the only one that I've won.

Speaker 1 No, that was from my friend Anthony, so that was totally different. So he has, Eric Roth has a guy.
And I've lost every bet because of I had a wrong guy.

Speaker 1 The guy I thought he said is not the guy. He spelled the word horse differently? I wrote it down differently.
Okay. I don't know what the fuck he said.
That's tough.

Speaker 1 How do you know it's the wrong guy then? Because then his son DM'd me and was like, hey, check, this is what my dad was talking about. And I was like, fuck.
And that's not what I've been playing for.

Speaker 1 You were getting scoops.

Speaker 1 It's like the people that own like pornhub.com catching all the strays from people that have fat fingers. So whatever.
All right, let's get to our interviews. We got Dana White.
What do you got?

Speaker 1 What do you got, Bill? Can I redo mine? No.

Speaker 1 I lost the war with the trash pandas. I moved.
What do you mean they moved? Well, I moved. Oh.

Speaker 1 What happened to the bunker? I retreated. I moved out.
But I thought you already took care of them. No, but they were still a lot more.
But where's the bunker going to be? The bunker's.

Speaker 1 I'm now in a barn, Berserker Barn. Are you going to build it?

Speaker 1 I'm building it out right now. Okay, cool.
So we get to watch that again. How hot is it in the barn? It's almost as hot as it is in here.

Speaker 1 How do you guys do this?

Speaker 1 It's really hot. We're athletes.
Yeah. It's a persona.
I'm sweating it out right now. I do feel better, though.
After I get done with the show, I feel like I had to work. Endorsements? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Sweet. Hot yoga.

Speaker 1 It's hot. All right.

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And now, Dana White.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest in front of the program. It is Dana White, ahead of UFC 250, Nunez vs.
Spencer. Let's start there.

Speaker 1 Sell us on this. And also, can you tell me how the best way to order it?

Speaker 1 Because every time I try to order a UFC now, with you guys not letting me do the just simple like pay-per-view button, it drives me nuts. I do order them, but it drives me nuts.

Speaker 6 Okay. Yeah,

Speaker 6 you have ESPN Plus? Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 you click on it, and usually it tells you where to go. It says that it's live.

Speaker 1 But can you bring back the old pay-per-view button where you just go and buy it on the I buy it on Plus and then

Speaker 1 I have to watch it? I was just going to say how fucking old.

Speaker 1 How do I get the Plus from my phone to my TV? Give me the button where I can be like, oh, I just got to go to the thousands, and it's like Playboy channel, Playboy channel, pay-per-view.

Speaker 6 What are you 64 years old for?

Speaker 1 Just make up a channel. Just tell me it's channel 1522, and then that'll just make me feel better.
I actually do.

Speaker 1 So my problem initially was I had ESPN Plus on my phone, but then I had to get on my TV. But I have gotten it figured out.

Speaker 1 But I just want the, there's something that was satisfying about like the, you know, like the Tyson era. You're like, all right, click, buy, you know, get ready, buy it a day in advance just in case.

Speaker 1 Just bring that back.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, listen,

Speaker 6 it's like anything else. It's technology gets better.
It gets worse.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 Makes everything more difficult. You should see, I just built the house and, you know, they put, I told them.

Speaker 6 I told these guys when they built my house, don't put crazy new shit in here that I can't use. You know what I mean? So then, you know, the whole radio system,

Speaker 6 my clickers for my TV are all set up on Wi-Fi. So if the Wi-Fi goes down, I can't change the channel, turn it up, turn it off, turn it on.
Believe me,

Speaker 6 I got this bullshit going on at my house all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it, though.

Speaker 1 I love how everybody, including like ourselves, as you get older, you start to realize that you will become your parents and you'll start complaining about like newfangled buttons that you don't know how to press.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 But the bottom line is, keep it simple. Keep it simple.
You know what I mean? Just give me a remote that works and I can turn the TV off and on.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So, all right, so UFC 250,

Speaker 1 sell us on this. Again, I'm going to buy it anyway, but sell the fans that might not, besides the fact that

Speaker 1 we did tell you.

Speaker 6 Susie, there's nothing else on. There's nothing else to do.

Speaker 6 So buy the UFC for it and sell it at night.

Speaker 1 Thank you for keeping sports alive. Do you feel a little accomplished when the world is falling apart? And in those first couple

Speaker 1 fights you had and everyone was like, oh my God, thank God sports because we're just ravenous for anything. Did you feel like, yeah, I did this.
I put like Scarface, like I put this thing together.

Speaker 6 I'm the same way, man. I mean, I watched the entire golf game with Brady and Mickelson and, you know what I mean? And Tiger and Manning.

Speaker 6 You know, it takes Tom Brady to get me to watch golf. But yeah, I watched the whole game because I haven't seen anything, you know, exciting or

Speaker 6 competitive in months. But on Saturday night, we got the GOAT, the greatest of all time, Amanda Nunes versus Felicia Spencer.
And, you know, Nunes

Speaker 6 is so fun to watch. She is, you know, without a doubt, the greatest to ever do it.
Not just all the names of the who's who that she beat, but how she beats them. This is a woman.

Speaker 6 Most people, if they complain about the women, they're like, oh, the women don't have that one punch knockout power. She has the one punch knockout power.

Speaker 6 She knocks people out or she submits you, but she is always going for a finish.

Speaker 6 And felicia spencer is the new up-and-coming girl you know uh amanda nunes is looked at as the goat she's in one of these places now where people are starting to think oh this isn't even a challenge for her you know she she's going to walk right through this girl

Speaker 6 everybody in this sport can lose on any given night because there's so many ways to win and so many ways to lose and when you're at amanda nunes's status Everybody is training just to beat you.

Speaker 6 They're watching all your film. They're looking for the holes in in your game and they're training to beat you.

Speaker 6 The co-main event is Cody Garbrap versus Jafi Alasantiao. Al Jermaine Sterling versus Corey Sandhagen.
These are very important phantom weight fights to see who's in line next to fight for the title.

Speaker 6 The first fight of the night on the main card, Sean O'Malley versus Eddie Weiland.

Speaker 6 Sean O'Malley is this exciting fun kid who's on his way up right now and this is without a doubt the toughest test of his career.

Speaker 6 The main event on uh on the espn prelims before it goes to pay-per-view chase hooper and alex callous uh caceres

Speaker 6 this is a incredible fight hooper is undefeated and alex is a kid that's been around for a long time uh our matchmakers love this kid chase hooper he is incredible on the ground this kid's a wizard he takes a beaten and then ends up pulling off some unbelievable submission and that's the main event on espn what what happened in chase hooper's life that made him be an mma fighter and not an SEC quarterback?

Speaker 1 Like, that is the backup quarterback for Auburn. Like, here comes Chase Hooper to save their season.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, this kid

Speaker 6 is hilarious.

Speaker 6 After his first win here in the UFC, we were here in Vegas. They asked him, well, you know, you just won your first fight in the UFC.

Speaker 6 What are you going to do right now? He said, I'm going to go to the

Speaker 6 M ⁇ M factory across the street after the fight's over.

Speaker 1 What a party animal. He's 20 years old.
He's 20 years old. That's old.
That's crazy.

Speaker 6 That's about all you can do in Vegas if you're 20 years old.

Speaker 1 That's true. Flashing back to UFC 248,

Speaker 1 I don't know how to say her last name correctly, but it was the Joanna Zhang fight.

Speaker 1 One of the best fights that I've ever seen in my entire life.

Speaker 1 And she had, by the end of it, she had that forehead contusion where she looked, I think people were saying it was like the Mars attacks alien head that was going on.

Speaker 1 After a fight like that is over, I imagine that your adrenaline is pretty high. But then looking back on it, are you like, man, maybe I should have had a word with the referee about stopping it?

Speaker 1 Like, does that, do you ever talk to a referee after a fight and kind of second guess their decision?

Speaker 6 No. So what happens with those contusions is blood vessels break.
Hers were in the forehead, which is crazy. Usually it happens around the eyes.
And

Speaker 6 her whole forehead, it's basically blood leaking out into the skin.

Speaker 6 and giving you the contusion. The Vegas doctors are the best.
They know what's what's dangerous and what's not dangerous. And,

Speaker 6 you know, they felt that she was okay to continue. And she was okay after the fight, other than,

Speaker 6 like you said, looking like an alien. But I agree with you.
Two of the baddest women in the world in an incredible war. And

Speaker 6 such a fun fight.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you have a fight and maybe the fight card doesn't deliver the same way that you expected it to,

Speaker 1 how much does it hurt? Like, I would imagine you're a guy who takes it personally. And obviously, I'm nowhere near your level when we have our rough and rowdy.
They're like different by a billion.

Speaker 1 But when we have a bad fight night, when we have a bad card, it sucks. And everyone gets pissed.
So what do you do

Speaker 1 when you have a bad card or it doesn't deliver? There's not knockouts. What is it like in Dana White's office the next day or that night?

Speaker 6 I'm going to tell you where I've been incredibly lucky. And what has made this sport go like this is that I always say, I'm the bells and whistles guy.

Speaker 6 I put on, I tell you why the fights are good, how they're going to look. We put the fights together that we know

Speaker 6 should be, you know, fun fights with the best in the world.

Speaker 6 And once that cage door closes, everything is out of my hands. It's up to the fighters.
And these kids always deliver, man. They do.

Speaker 6 Seriously, in 20 years, I can count on one hand how many shows have sucked. You know what I mean? Where you've walked out and said that show sucked.
In 20 years, And, you know, what am I at?

Speaker 6 Like over 200 fights, 220 fights on pay-per-view, not including all the other fights, talking hundreds of fights. So

Speaker 6 been very lucky with that. But yes, when you walk out of a show that just sucked, it's just such a downer for everybody, man.
And, you know, you're bummed out. And it's not a good feeling for anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How good is your memory if I were to just like bring up a UFC number to you and say like UFC 197? Could you tell me who the main event was?

Speaker 6 No clue.

Speaker 1 UFC 4, when Butterbean knocked someone out.

Speaker 6 What's that?

Speaker 1 When Butterbean fought.

Speaker 6 Butterbean never fought in the UFC.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Come on.
Yes, he did.

Speaker 6 Your UFC knowledge is unreal.

Speaker 1 My UFC knowledge is so crazy. You should get him to fight in the UFC.
Butterbean, when he knocked people out, you should get him in the... He's still around.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, Butterbean used to used to.

Speaker 6 It would be crazy because you would look at Butterbean and you'd see him fighting this guy who had some great physique and looked like he was going to kill Butterbean.

Speaker 6 And Butterbean would knock him out. That guy definitely had real power.

Speaker 1 That right hand, if he caught you with the right hand, it was lights out for sure.

Speaker 1 Okay, he did fight in MMA, he just didn't fight in the UFC. So it wasn't so wrong.
So why didn't you offer Butterbean a contract to fight in the UFC? Is that your biggest regret?

Speaker 6 No regrets.

Speaker 1 Zero? None?

Speaker 6 Zero. No, none.

Speaker 1 Zero. What about the Ed Hardy shirts?

Speaker 1 What about what?

Speaker 1 What about the Ed Hardy shirts?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dan Hardy? The Ed Hardy shirts.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 Yo, a fluid shit.

Speaker 6 It's crazy that you just said this because we were talking literally like two hours ago in my office about, you know, the clothing that we all used to wear in the UFC in like 06-07.

Speaker 6 And yes, I want to punch myself in the face when I see that.

Speaker 1 One regret. That's the one regret from Dana White.

Speaker 6 That's a big one.

Speaker 6 As sports are coming back, there can you just tell me that fight island is still going to happen yes fight island is real and it's happening uh the date of fight island is going to be uh july 11th saturday july 11th will be the first fight on fight island now do you know where the island is located i do yeah nobody else knows though can you tell us can you tell us what ocean i'll tell you next week what next week i'm i'm gonna have some images and all right we're a lot of other things let us ask you two questions is it in an ocean yes

Speaker 1 is it in the pacific Ocean?

Speaker 6 I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 So yes. That sounds like you would have said no.
Yeah. Pacific Ocean.
Yeah. Off the coast of the Catalina.
Is it like a lesser Catalina? No. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like one of those islands that are just inhabited by seals.

Speaker 1 You kicked all the seals off? Can you comment on the rumors that you got the Chinese government to build you one of their fake islands just so you could stage a fight on it?

Speaker 6 Interesting. You know, the funny thing is, is that this thing has definitely taking a life of its own.
And one of my biggest fears was, you know, the

Speaker 6 fantasy of Fight Island may eclipse the reality of Fight Island. So

Speaker 6 the pressure is on.

Speaker 1 Shit. That's a way to undersell it.
Now I want to know where the fuck Fight Island is.

Speaker 1 Billy Football says that it's in the South China Sea.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Is it that big floating trash heap that's like in the middle of the Pacific?

Speaker 1 That would be an awesome place. You repurpose that, and now you're a real hero.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shit. Is there a small part of you that doesn't want other sports to come back so you can continue to be the only game?

Speaker 6 No, man. Listen, I'm a fan of

Speaker 6 a...

Speaker 6 A fan of the Patriots and I'm a fan of the Celtics. And, you know, I love going.

Speaker 6 I go to quite a few Celtics games a year, and I try to catch a couple of Patriots games, but I watch them all on TV. I'm a sports fan, too.

Speaker 6 And you know what I really want to come back to is concerts. Yeah.
I'm a big concert fan, man.

Speaker 6 I was ready for Rage Against the Machine. I was going to do two dates of the Rage tour.
And, you know, those guys haven't toured in 10 years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a big bummer. Fight Island.
Fight Island. Don't undersell Fight Island, though.
Like, to me, you're right. It is a big fantasy of mine.

Speaker 1 I feel like it's like a karate kid movie or a, no, it's like Mortal Kombat is what it is. I just want to picture it like that.

Speaker 6 That's exactly.

Speaker 6 So people have this idea that when you walk out, like when you come out of the tunnel, you're going to be walking down with lit tiki torches, and the octagon's going to be in the middle of the jungle, and I'm going to be sitting in some big throne watching the fights.

Speaker 6 I mean, that's that's the

Speaker 1 concept everybody knows. What you just described was awesome.
Are you not hearing yourself talk? Like, I want you wearing like a crown or a safari-style, like, pith helmet in the middle of a jungle.

Speaker 1 Maybe get a band with like flames coming out of the guitars, like it's Mad Max Fury Road, just lined up playing heavy metal music. This is Fight Island.
That is the allure of Fight Island.

Speaker 1 How the fuck have you kept Fight Island like a secret where it is? How is that possible?

Speaker 6 But this is the problem.

Speaker 6 This is the problem with Fight Island that the whole thing has ever, it's taken on a life of its own and everybody has this imagination like he does that this is what Fight Island is going to be.

Speaker 1 Is Fight Island controlled by the United States government?

Speaker 1 You're renting it, not buying it. We know that.
Huh.

Speaker 6 Yes, no, yes, we're rent. We're not, I I didn't buy the island.

Speaker 1 We didn't buy an island.

Speaker 1 Okay. Interesting.
Do you need a passport for Fight Island?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Is John Bones Jones

Speaker 1 allowed to go to Fight Island?

Speaker 6 Is Jones? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't know. We'll see.
We'll see. You know, obviously you guys know Jones and I are in a bit of a beef right now, but it's not the, it's not the first time and it won't be the last.

Speaker 1 So we'll see what happens. Do you think, do you expect him to ever fight again in the UFC?

Speaker 6 Yeah, listen, at the the end of the day john's one of the best if not the best to ever do it and um

Speaker 1 you know i listen does he have the money to retire yes do i think he will i don't but who knows did you see anything's possible did you see him taking spray cans from uh looters and maybe be like you know what let's put that on the positive side of of of john yeah no i love bring that back I love that, you know, and,

Speaker 6 you know, John's been through a lot in the last 10 years, but yeah, no, it was cool to see him out there doing that.

Speaker 1 What about Connor? So, Connor obviously had his warm-up fight this year, which seems like it was forever ago. Was it this year? Yeah, right?

Speaker 6 He fought in January.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ, that feels like 10 years ago. Doesn't it? Yeah, so what's the plan for Connor in these companies?

Speaker 1 He's going to get a title fight next? Like, how's it going to work? Yeah, so.

Speaker 6 So what I think Connor should do is wait for this Gage Habib fight and fight the winner of that.

Speaker 1 That's what really makes the most sense for a guy of you want to fight Habib again? He's going to get killed.

Speaker 6 Well, there you go. So

Speaker 6 he doesn't feel that way and he wants that fight again.

Speaker 1 Okay. What about Connor versus Anderson Silva?

Speaker 6 What's that?

Speaker 1 Billy Football wants to know what about Connor versus Anderson Silva?

Speaker 6 So,

Speaker 6 you know, Connor McGregor, when he fights it, he fought the fight at 170. He didn't even weigh 170.
He was under 170. Anderson Silva fights at 185 pounds, right?

Speaker 6 He walks around at 210, 215.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 that fight makes no sense.

Speaker 6 Anderson Silva, I don't even think he's ranked right now in that division, is he?

Speaker 6 No, he's not ranked in that division. And he's like 44 years old.
I mean, that fight makes no sense.

Speaker 1 So Billy Football, bad job by Billy Football is what you're saying. Billy was saying me at 175.
Billy Football has done a bad job. You would fire him if he was working for you, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Billy Football is our intern. He's sitting behind the camera right now.
He's the one who wants to make that fight. He wants to make it at 175.
You can just fire him right now.

Speaker 1 Tell him he's doing a terrible job.

Speaker 6 Fired. Fired.

Speaker 1 Billy's fired. Fired.

Speaker 1 Fired. I can't read.
Billy's holding up an iPhone 10 feet from me that I can't read. I can't read that, Billy.
I have an idea for you, Dana.

Speaker 1 Have you thought about, you know how whenever there is a pay-per-view, there will be some illegal streams? I'm sure you guys are very good at shutting them all down.

Speaker 1 I know you are because it seems like they just don't exist the same way.

Speaker 1 But there's always that one guy who pops on Periscope and you can watch like half of his foot and his grody apartment and watch the fight.

Speaker 1 You should remake that and then after a fight, hop into the screen and be like, fuck you, motherfuckers, buy the pay-per-view.

Speaker 1 Think about that.

Speaker 6 I'll consider that.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's actually a good idea, though. It doesn't go viral.
Like, FBI is coming for your ass.

Speaker 6 So, you know what's funny is we actually have a group that

Speaker 6 during a fight, they're knocking down all these different streams, right? We also have ways that we can figure out who's stealing it for free.

Speaker 6 And we go out and we catch these guys.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 6 Now,

Speaker 6 when you talk to these guys on your phone, They're a bunch of fucking tough guys. Okay.

Speaker 6 When we actually bust these guys they call me crying asking me to to please don't do this to them i'm gonna ruin their life and all this shit and uh

Speaker 1 the totally different fucking story because they don't think that they can be caught but then when we catch them they're the biggest fucking pussy on planet earth okay so here it is dana you're a marketing guy i'm a marketing guy a couple marketing guys talking here this is a two birds with one stone situation you catch the guys Instead of prosecuting, we bring back John Bones-Jones into the UFC.

Speaker 1 And if you illegally steal a fight card, you have to face him in the octagon for a round. People would buy that.
I definitely love that. Yes.
I love that idea. Let's go.
People would buy it.

Speaker 1 I would buy to see one schlub get smoked every single like you could just have it be like, hey, all right, let's start the fights.

Speaker 1 And it's just one random fight of some dude that periscoped a UFC, and he just gets his ass kicked. He taps out in like 10 seconds and we just run through him.
That's a card in itself.

Speaker 6 Yeah, what I would do too is

Speaker 6 when you come back, you have to fight Francis Ngagno and Derek Lewis.

Speaker 1 No. And you don't want to kill him.
And nobody's going to stream that. No one's going to illegally hijack that stream either.
That would be incredible. You would never do it again.

Speaker 1 That's way worse than being prosecuted.

Speaker 6 I wish we lived in that world.

Speaker 7 That would be perfect. I'm down for that.

Speaker 1 The first time that you saw a stylebender fight were you thinking like is this guy is he animated is this like tekkin 17

Speaker 6 yeah the thing that i was curious about with with him was um

Speaker 6 when he faced a good wrestler what was going to happen to him would he be able to defend the takedown and and do the things it's it's unbelievable how fast that guy got his takedown defense dialed in and uh

Speaker 1 you know what an incredible mixed martial artist he's become in such a short amount of time yeah I'm watching my I'm about to win a pick five finally at Churchill Downs. Maybe.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 Are you going out to the casinos in Vegas now that they're open? Let's go.

Speaker 6 Tonight.

Speaker 1 I'm going tonight. Which one? Penn National, I assume.

Speaker 6 Which hotel am I going to tonight?

Speaker 1 You're going to a Penn National.

Speaker 1 I'm going to a Penn National casino, right?

Speaker 6 Oh, Penn National.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, I'm going to play tonight at Caesar.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. We'll bleep that out.
We'll bleep that out. You're going to do a Penn National gaming.

Speaker 6 Oh, is that their sponsor? Yeah,

Speaker 1 play a sponsor. They bought us.

Speaker 1 They're in bosses.

Speaker 6 I threw out the Caesars palace on you guys on that.

Speaker 1 Sorry about that. That's okay.
I'm a huge Bellator fan, so it's not a big deal.

Speaker 1 Where the hell is Penn National Casino? Worldwide. I think they're the top of Canada, right? Yeah, and then we have the resort, the M Resort off the strip.

Speaker 6 Oh, the M is one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you love that place.

Speaker 6 I do. No, the M is really nice.

Speaker 1 Very nice. Yeah, very nice, very nice place.

Speaker 7 Um, okay, I did not know that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a very nice place.

Speaker 1 Did you was there anything that you uh that you learned that was unexpected about hosting these fights, given all the restrictions of how far away people have to be, all the testing?

Speaker 1 Is there anything that you took from your first experiences with that that you've implemented to either make the fight safer or change them to make them uh be streamlined a little bit?

Speaker 6 Yeah, you know, it's like anything else. My team is so badass and so good.
Um, you know, we pull off the best events in all of combat sports history,

Speaker 6 back of house and what you see on TV and live in the arena. But

Speaker 6 the thing is, once you get repetition and you start to get better, and people, you know, we'll just get better and better and better at this. And,

Speaker 6 you know, when you come to one of our events, it's the safest place you could be. Everybody there is tested multiple times.
You know, every protocol is followed.

Speaker 6 You know, you couldn't be in a safer place than at one of our fights.

Speaker 1 My last question: UFC 250, buy it Saturday night. It is the only game in town.
Sports are back. Dana White has made sure sports stay in your TV.
So, UFC 250, you got to buy it. My last question is,

Speaker 1 were you at any moment like during this entire pandemic and maybe some backlash that you received? Were you ever deterred?

Speaker 1 Because I don't know anyone else out there who really doesn't listen to like the court of public opinion. Like you, you just kind of ignore it.

Speaker 1 How do you do that?

Speaker 6 20 years. I've been listening to this bullshit for 20 years.
So,

Speaker 6 you know, I was getting fucking hammered by the media through this thing.

Speaker 6 But

Speaker 6 listen to me.

Speaker 6 When you look at, when somebody writes something and it's super negative or they shouldn't be doing this and shouldn't be doing that, I look these people up, okay? I go online and I look at them.

Speaker 6 If you ever look at some of these fucking reporters, I go, look at this fucking dork, okay?

Speaker 6 Of course,

Speaker 6 this is what this guy is fucking saying.

Speaker 6 They are, if you loaded up a bus of all the wimpiest people on fucking planet Earth, okay,

Speaker 6 and you put them all in a room together, the media, are wimps amongst wimps, okay?

Speaker 6 Wimps will be slapping fucking those those guys around. So

Speaker 6 it is exactly what I expect them to say. Their opinion means nothing to me.
Since when do we let the fucking media decide what we're going to do or not do? You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 So their opinion really means nothing to me. And at the end of the day, what my job is,

Speaker 6 A, to take care of my employees. B, to make sure that the fighters continue to make a living and keep working.
And C, to make this company money. That is my job.
That's what what I do.

Speaker 6 And that's all I care about.

Speaker 1 So, did you ever think, though, because the media, I can see what you're saying there, but in terms of like public health officials, did you ever think, hey, maybe I should listen to these people? Or

Speaker 1 how did that all break down where you were

Speaker 1 like, hey, let's go full steam ahead. We can do this and we can do it safely.

Speaker 6 When you look at this thing with common sense, and there was a great piece that was done by your guy, Dave,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 one of the preeminent doctors in the world.

Speaker 6 No, no, but

Speaker 6 what he said was absolutely right. And it's common sense.
Flatten the curve, flatten the curve, flatten the curve is what we were hearing, right?

Speaker 6 So everybody went in. I did all the right things too.
I did what I was told. You know, I took my family and we stayed home and we, you know, we did what we were told.
But

Speaker 6 the truth of the matter is.

Speaker 6 There was no end in sight. When they would draw the line and say, we're going to do this for 30 days.
Then they would say, we're going to do it for another 15 days. We're going to do it.

Speaker 6 And it keeps dragging on. Well,

Speaker 6 first of all, there's an answer and a solution to everything.

Speaker 6 And the answer is never, let's just hide from this thing until the government tells us, you know, we can come out.

Speaker 6 There's a solution. And health and safety is something that we worry about every single weekend, not just since the coronavirus popped up.

Speaker 6 And I know that we have the best team, the best staff, the best doctors, access to the best, you know, and sharpest minds in the medical field.

Speaker 6 And we figured this thing out and we knew we could do it. So then it was just a matter of getting it done.

Speaker 6 And let me tell you what, when I tell you that these fucking dorks from the media, right, it's not just like, oh, let's write a shitty story and say that these guys are bad guys for trying to go during the COVID-19 thing.

Speaker 6 They're literally making phone calls to the athletic commissions, the venues, you know, and and doing all this stuff to try to make it stop, you know?

Speaker 6 Just the fucking

Speaker 6 disgusting.

Speaker 1 Anyway. When you say wimpy members of the media, you know what the bottom line is?

Speaker 6 You know what the bottom line is? I fucking won.

Speaker 1 When you say wimpy members of the media, I want to clarify you're not talking about Robbie Fox.

Speaker 1 No, he's one of the things. Robbie's masculine.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 He's one of the toughest, most durable guys out there in the media. Yes.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Yes.
I love Robbie. Yes.

Speaker 7 Yes. I love him too.

Speaker 6 I actually really do like him.

Speaker 1 I know he calls you Uncle Ben.

Speaker 6 Listen, I'm not talking about all the media guys.

Speaker 6 There are media guys out there that I like.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think

Speaker 1 what the root of.

Speaker 6 Not the strongest guys in the world, but still.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're not fair.

Speaker 1 I think what the root of... you know, what started a lot of this was people were legitimately concerned about a public health issue.

Speaker 1 So they, I think some people just want to make sure that now is the right time to be doing it, that you are talking with the appropriate health officials that are making sure that it's safe and that like hosting a fight is not going to spread the virus and cause any damage i think that that that's a legitimate concern um but it seems like i don't know where you do you have like a public health person that you've been talking to about all this like taking their advice look at this guy walking right into the middle of my uh

Speaker 6 look at this

Speaker 6 so uh

Speaker 6 yes first of all first and foremost if you talk to any of my employees okay okay, any of my employees ever, I care about my employees. I would never do anything to hurt my employees.

Speaker 6 I'm not trying to go out and die and bring this shit home and hurt any of my family. I don't want to see any fighters get hurt, you know, in a fight or any other way.

Speaker 6 So yeah, this wasn't a thing about, oh, the media was concerned about the health and safety of, get the fuck out of here. Not even remotely fucking close.
These guys are dirty little weasels.

Speaker 6 and what they wanted to do was stop this event because they felt it shouldn't happen or

Speaker 6 their

Speaker 6 egos wanted to prove that they could stop this thing that they you know i write for the new york times this dork him and all the other dorks were so upset When this fucking fight went off, that dork went fucking crazy because now all this guy wants to do is write about the UFC, this New York Times fucking dork.

Speaker 7 Look that guy up.

Speaker 1 I want to clarify, Dana.

Speaker 1 I think their media should be trusted to a point, and it's also very important. But the way you say fucking dork, it's very hilarious.
I want to clarify. Do you not like

Speaker 1 what's your opinion on the media? Tell me what you think here.

Speaker 1 If you were to use one word, two words, to describe the media, what would it be, Dana?

Speaker 6 Yeah, most of them are fucking dorks.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 And the absolute wimpiest of the wimps.

Speaker 1 But you also, you understand, too, that if anything did go wrong, you'd have to own it. And it'd be a pretty

Speaker 1 black eye on everything that you do. I'm right here.

Speaker 6 I'm right here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I'm right here. There's no doubt about it.
Listen,

Speaker 6 when you go like Guy Went,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 6 It just, if you look at what we've built over the last 20 years.

Speaker 6 I'm not going to run out there

Speaker 6 and kick myself in the head and do something that I don't think that I can pull off, fail miserably in front of the whole world, and then what? I knew we could pull it off.

Speaker 6 And there were people that were willing to do it with us and try to make this thing work.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 instead of saying, hey, you know, we think this is, you know, probably a little too soon to go, which what the fuck do they know anyway? What their doctors?

Speaker 6 The fucking dork from the New York Times is the guy that gets to determine whether it's time to go or not?

Speaker 7 Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 6 Get the fuck out of of here. That's such a crock of shit.

Speaker 1 One last question for me.

Speaker 1 Have you already worked out arrangements with whether it be the Coast Guard or the local government of San Antonio, or excuse me, San Diego to arrange the ships that will be leaving from the port of San Antonio or San Diego to get them out to the islands off the coast of California?

Speaker 6 No, there won't be any ships from San Diego to Fantasy Island.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's not

Speaker 1 Fantasy Island now. Oh, that's candid.

Speaker 6 I thought that's what you called it. I thought you called it Fantasy Island.

Speaker 1 No, are you going to call it Fantasy Island? Is there

Speaker 1 Is there going to be fucking on Fantasy Island? You should turn it into a reality show. Like, the entire island should be the ultimate fighter, the ultimate islander.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Hey, I think you guys need to get into the fight business. You guys got a lot of ideas.

Speaker 1 Yeah. VR ideas, guys.
Yes. All right, Dana White, thank you as always.
UFC 250, tune in Saturday night. And then

Speaker 1 be ready because Fight Island's coming. You're going to announce it next week.

Speaker 1 July 11th will be the first fight on Fight Island. Get excited.

Speaker 6 Thanks for having me, guys. All right.

Speaker 1 Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

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And now, Booger McFarland. And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest and friend of the program. It is Booger McFarland.
Booger, it's great to talk to you. It's great to have you on.

Speaker 1 We want to talk about a bunch of stuff, but I think the most,

Speaker 1 the thing that's at the top of everyone's mind right now is Drew Brees and the state of Louisiana, your home state,

Speaker 1 and how this has all kind of played out in the last couple of days with NFL and Drew Brees.

Speaker 1 And I guess my first question would be just from like a locker room perspective, you see a bunch of his teammates speaking out and saying like you're tone deaf.

Speaker 1 Do you think that that's going to carry over

Speaker 1 to the season? Do you think Drew Brees is going to have trouble, you know, repairing some of those relationships after what was an admittedly very tone-deaf comment by him?

Speaker 7 No, I don't think so. And, you know, if you look at our society, we will harp on something until the next thing comes up.
Just think about coronavirus.

Speaker 7 I don't think anybody's mentioned the word COVID-19 or corona in the last week since what happened in Minneapolis. So that's just kind of the nature of our society.

Speaker 7 But specifically to the locker room, man, man, you guys know how the locker room is. I mean, you guys got a mini locker room there.

Speaker 7 You go in there when when the cameras are off, when the phones are off, you talk about a lot of different things, some comfortable, some not. But

Speaker 7 it's the sacredness of the confines of where you are. When you guys are in your office, in your building, you expect what goes on in there to stay in there.
We can have difficult conversations.

Speaker 7 We can use language that we otherwise would not use outside of it. And by and large, the locker room is a forgiving place.

Speaker 7 As a matter of fact, as you and I are talking now, Michael Thomas has already come out and said that he accept Drew Brees' apology. And so all you can do is take him for a take him at his word.

Speaker 7 I think in the end, though, Drew Brees apologized for the backlash. Like he apologized because he pissed off America.
I mean, let's face it, Drew Brees never said, I apologize for my stance.

Speaker 7 He basically went to bed last night and couldn't sleep. He was uncomfortable probably for

Speaker 7 one of the few nights in his life. Like he couldn't sleep last night.
He tossed and turned. Man, America does not like me.
America thinks I'm a racist. America thinks I can do no wrong.

Speaker 7 They're chanting F Drew Brees in New Orleans. Like his entire world was shaking last night.

Speaker 7 And what I would tell Drew Brees, black people have been sleeping like that for a long damn time.

Speaker 7 Okay, so if he can go to bed one night uncomfortable and wake up at 7 a.m., he sent the damn apology this morning at 7 a.m.

Speaker 7 So either he got up at six in

Speaker 7 New Orleans or four in California. He didn't sleep.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 7 Okay. He was up early to do this.
And,

Speaker 7 you know, hopefully he learns. It's not going to be as easy as sending an apology

Speaker 7 because this is the same stance, guys, that he had in 2016. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 what changed between 2016, yesterday, and today? The only thing that changed was the public outcry. And for that, I think he's apologizing for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think when he got done with that interview, he didn't think he said anything wrong. I think when he was done with that interview, he thought to himself, nailed it.

Speaker 1 I stood up for what I believe in, and this is Drew Brees. That was a good answer that I gave to it.

Speaker 1 And I think what a lot of kind of the backlash to even Drew Brees' apologies, there are a lot of people that are misconstruing the situation and saying Drew Brees is apologizing for loving the American flag and for wanting to honor his veteran grandparents.

Speaker 1 That's not what people are mad at Drew Brees for. People aren't mad.
You can believe what you want about the flag. You can believe,

Speaker 1 you know, you can use it as a symbol in your own life to honor if you have veterans in your family. That's perfectly normal.
I think a lot of people do. But what Drew Brees was saying was,

Speaker 1 I'm not here to listen to my teammates that might have opposing views to that. And that's what he has yet to apologize for.
He just apologized kind of for people saying

Speaker 1 that he was a bad guy. And he was like, I don't want to offend anybody.
So sorry if I offended anybody. But yeah,

Speaker 1 hopefully he did take the time to kind of learn a little bit from

Speaker 1 I want to discuss real quick. Well, actually, sticking on this, were you surprised to see his teammates publicly calling him out on social media? That usually doesn't happen to a guy like Drew Brees.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I was a little surprised, but here's what happens.

Speaker 7 When the biggest fish in the room calls him out, Michael Thomas, then it becomes easier for people below him. So Michael Thomas is what, like the second and third highest paid player on the team.

Speaker 7 So once Michael Thomas calls him out, then Cam Jordan chimes in, then Malcolm Jake chimes in, then it's like open season on Drew Brees brees at that point so it just shows you um how real the situation is and michael thomas is a no-nonsense guy like i've had conversation with him like one of the things that makes him a top three receiver in football is his work ethic his dedication and just how committed to being who he is that he's he's become over the years and when he called him out and man everybody was like whoa in that locker room and so flip it over when michael thomas accepts accepts his apology today, I think other people in that locker room will kind of fall in line.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 here's the catch in New Orleans. Sean Payton is one of the best leaders I've ever been around.
And he's a quarterback whisperer.

Speaker 7 He's done great things with Drew Brees and is going to try to do great things with Jameis Winston.

Speaker 7 But I think one of the more underrated things that he does is relationship mending and relationship building. He'll do a phenomenal job in New Orleans with that.
But those things,

Speaker 7 either fortunately or unfortunately, depending on what side you're on, we're not going to be privy to because they should and they will take place behind closed doors.

Speaker 1 So I think this past week has been

Speaker 1 like what people are finding is they're having uncomfortable

Speaker 1 conversations. They're feeling uncomfortable, which is a good thing.

Speaker 1 I saw, I tweeted today just jokingly, like the Drew Brees using the end race, he Googled end racism stock image, and he picked the picture with a white guy and a black guy, you know, clasping hands I actually looked it up and he did like it was halfway down the Google image searches and I made that joke on Twitter and I had a lot of people coming at me and being like hey

Speaker 1 like what did Drew Brees say that was wrong and I'm in a weird spot where it's like I can't really explain you know the feelings that black america is going through right now and people probably don't want to hear me explain it so from your perspective when you see something like drew brees saying something like that like what in your mind can you explain it to some people who don't understand?

Speaker 1 Trying to expand their worldview of what exactly, you know, is wrong and what he missed in his initial statement.

Speaker 7 Well, his statement was

Speaker 7 not only was it tone deaf, he just didn't listen. And so, like, if you will understand the context, let's go back to 2016.
Colin Kaepernick is sitting on the bench. He didn't kneel first.

Speaker 7 He sat on the bench. He sat down and Nate Boyer, a green beret, came to him and said, hey, Colin,

Speaker 7 for me, it's disrespectful if you sit down.

Speaker 7 Colin was like, okay, well, what can I do? He's like, I'd rather you kneel. And so Colin Kaepernick then got off the bench from sitting and he went and knelt down.

Speaker 7 So that's how the whole kneeling started. Let's make sure we understand that.
So he talked to a military guy and the military guy, Nate Boyer, told him to kneel. So now.

Speaker 7 The whole movement went on with Colin Kaepernick in 2016, and we all know how that played out. No need to go through that whole situation again.
Drew Brees felt the same way in 2016.

Speaker 7 So now you fast forward to yesterday, and Drew Brees is on Yahoo Finance. I don't know what they're discussing or whatever.
I guess he doesn't, somebody didn't have enough money.

Speaker 7 So they decided to talk to Drew Brees about finance and all that, whatever. And lo and behold, a conversation comes up about protesting.

Speaker 7 Well, Drew Brees felt very comfortable based on the reaction of America in 2016. to basically double down and say what he said in 2016 yesterday.
Here's the problem with that.

Speaker 7 Less than two weeks ago, a black man was murdered on national television by the need of a white cop.

Speaker 7 There's nine minutes of video almost. Of that nine minutes of video, two minutes and 46 seconds of it, the black man is unconscious after he just got through telling you I couldn't breathe.

Speaker 7 So white officer kneeling down, black man throat, dead, homicide, murder. There we go.

Speaker 7 So Drew Brees was tone deaf to the situation of America that's happened since then with the rioting and and everything with the protesting and all that so now he goes on yahoo finance and he says he reiterates his stance and he personalizes it and he makes it selfish and he makes it about the flag well guys colin kaepernick told us nate boyer told us thousands of people said this is not about the flag but drew which is what happens across america drew lived in his bubble And his bubble was all about Drew.

Speaker 7 And for me, it's about my granddaddy and my grandparents. And this is what I feel.
And it's all about me right now. Well, guess what? That's part of the problem with America right now.

Speaker 7 That's why we are where we are today, because so many people have just tried to be in their bubble and not look at the oppression of other people,

Speaker 7 namely black and brown people, and they just focus on themselves. So when you look at what Drew said yesterday,

Speaker 7 not only did he not hear what Capri said four years ago, He didn't hear the cry coming from his own locker room with his teammates. And he didn't hear that another unarmed black man was murdered.

Speaker 7 This time it's changing the country, so to speak. I don't know if you guys agree, but this time seems different.
Like America seems different right now than some of the previous cases.

Speaker 7 And so when Drew says that, and then all hell breaks loose, he's like, well, what did I do wrong? In his mind, I guarantee you, he's saying, what did I do wrong?

Speaker 7 Because I just said the same thing four years ago. So if you're out there and you're part of white America and you don't understand what he said, let me break it down and be real concise

Speaker 7 you can have an issue with how someone protests and you may not do it the same way but you have to respect that we live in a country that allows peaceful protests and if if colin kaepernick wanted to protest on the knee this country says he has the right to you cannot tell him

Speaker 7 i i hear you excuse me i see you but i'm not going to listen to your message until you do it the way i want you to do it and drew brees is basically telling us i don't want you to kneel down if you kneel down, I can't like,

Speaker 7 that's disrespectful to me. And so it's kind of along those same lines.

Speaker 7 His apology today basically said, I stand with you. I'm there for you.
I'm against racism. But what it never said was, you know what? I am for protesting the way that you want to protest.

Speaker 7 It never said that because he still believes what he believed yesterday, which is why you kind of take the apology. and you're like, okay,

Speaker 7 I hear you, but I really don't.

Speaker 1 And I think that's where people are getting hung up where they're saying, well, if Colin Kaepernick can kneel, Drew Brees can say that, you know, it's his right to say, I don't want to kneel.

Speaker 1 It is his right to say he doesn't want to kneel. But what he said was Colin Kaepernick or people kneeling is disrespectful to the flag.
And that's kind of the, that's where it gets all cloudy.

Speaker 1 Because if Drew Brees had said yesterday, I understand,

Speaker 1 you know, people who are kneeling and I understand and that's their right, I personally am not going to kneel. That's a totally different, that's a totally different statement.

Speaker 1 I think that's where people are getting a little confused.

Speaker 1 And the other thing I just want to throw out there is we live, everything gets, you know, boiled down to very, like, this is exactly what it is. It's black and white every single time.

Speaker 1 No one is saying Drew Brees is a bad guy. He has done great things.
He has done great things for the community of New Orleans. He's done great things for the state of Louisiana.

Speaker 1 He was tone deaf and he was wrong here for not listening. But that's people are then, you know, they'll take it and be like, oh, we're canceling Drew Brees, all the work he's done.

Speaker 1 No, that's the opposite. He actually is a great guy, and he's clearly shown that he wants to help other people, but he also should listen.
Yeah, he needs to do a better job of listening.

Speaker 1 I think what you're seeing as well is that

Speaker 1 looking back at 2016 through the lens of today, there are a lot of people. who, you know, they're saying like, hey, I'm on board for the cause.

Speaker 1 I understand that there's a problem with racism in America and with law enforcement dealing with black people.

Speaker 1 But, you know, you don't need to riot in a violent way. You're hearing a lot of people say that.

Speaker 1 You're seeing some of those same people look back at 2016 and they're thinking in the back of their heads, damn, you know what? Taking a knee during the national anthem peacefully.

Speaker 1 looks pretty good right now. I probably shouldn't have just ignored the peaceful protest because I wish that's what was going on at this time.
But we didn't listen. Most of America didn't listen then.

Speaker 1 And so I think when you see drew brees he just is kind of skipping that step and not realizing that now is the time if you haven't listened before now is the time that you need to listen to what your teammates are telling you and what you know your co-workers are telling you what your community is telling you and you know i i think drew will do that um you know drew is that man listen drew you know me being from louisiana i've seen up close and personal what drew has done down there and it's it's been phenomenal um

Speaker 7 but i'm kind of glad this happened You know,

Speaker 7 Drew's done a lot of great stuff.

Speaker 7 He's been phenomenal, but it kind of leads to the bigger issue. And Drew Brees is just the name that we're focused on right now.

Speaker 7 But you could put any prominent white American that's given a lot of money,

Speaker 7 that has

Speaker 7 supported a lot of great causes, but inside them, they still feel a certain way. about issues in the African-American community.

Speaker 7 So no matter how much money you throw at something, something, it doesn't change who you are.

Speaker 7 No matter how much money or how many good causes you support, it doesn't change who you are. Sometimes we look at the money and we follow the money because,

Speaker 7 by and large, the person that's running the country right now, all he talks about is money. So, I guess that's what, like, we all follow the money.

Speaker 7 The economic status, the economy has never been better. And so, money becomes the bigger issue.
And if I can throw any amount of money that matters at a cause, you know, people are going to

Speaker 7 going to celebrate it. People are going to

Speaker 7 elevate my name.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 it's not necessarily always about the money. Colin Kaepernick didn't ask anybody for any money initially.
All he said was, hey, people, let's pay attention to police brutality.

Speaker 7 Let's pay attention to it. If we'll pay attention to it, I mean, guys, think about this.

Speaker 7 I don't think there's a direct correlation, but if we pay, if the same intensity that we had

Speaker 7 in 2020 was had back in 2016, George Floyd may still be alive.

Speaker 1 We don't know that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 He may still be alive. And so

Speaker 7 when we hear somebody cry

Speaker 7 for

Speaker 7 a particular sector of our country or a particular community, whether it's black people coming to white people, whether it's white people coming to black people and saying, hey, we need help.

Speaker 7 It's our job as Americans to listen. Okay.
The foundation of this country says liberty and justice for all. It doesn't say liberty and justice for black people.

Speaker 7 It doesn't say liberty and justice for white people. It doesn't say for Mexicans.
It says for all. That's what this country is built on.
So we still have a long way to go to include the all.

Speaker 7 Hopefully, Drew Brees lending his name based on the

Speaker 7 statement or the ignorance statement he made will allow him to learn and it will allow us to learn as a country and go forward with this.

Speaker 1 All right. So, I mean, what you just said is

Speaker 1 spot on and perfect because I think people are just, like I said, having uncomfortable conversations this past week, which is a good thing.

Speaker 1 And it's the, when we talked to Aaron Foster on Monday, he said small victories matter and small wins matter.

Speaker 1 And just the reaction that people had to Drew Brees versus four years ago, that's a small victory that people are more aware of this.

Speaker 1 Shifting a little bit topics from one difficult topic to probably another, I wanted to know:

Speaker 1 you have done a great job of being a consummate professional, but how has it been the last few months watching your job basically openly shopped online every single day?

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 1 when you're in

Speaker 7 big boy business, what I call it, you know,

Speaker 7 when you're in jobs that are high-profile jobs, high-salary jobs,

Speaker 7 it comes with the territory. rumors.
When I was in the NFL, okay, I was a first-round pick. I want to say about three or four years later, they drafted another guy in the first round.

Speaker 7 So different type of rumors, but you hear the same thing. Man, did they draft him to replace you? How are you going to handle them having a first-round pick in your room or whatever?

Speaker 7 So I've become accustomed to dealing with that for years.

Speaker 7 You know, ESPN and I came to a decision a while back, way before it was reported. So the overlap.

Speaker 7 or the timetable wasn't as great as a lot of people think but they decided to move on in a different direction. So, hey, I accepted and I moved on.

Speaker 1 I've been team Booger for life. I loved you in the booth, and I was hoping that they were going to bring you back next year.

Speaker 1 I'm also, I want to give you this opportunity to dispel some nasty internet rumors out there about you.

Speaker 1 About that Booger McFarlane has a miscalibrated Peloton bike, and he's juicing in stats, and that's why he's always on the top of the leaderboard because you see it. I see people talking about it.

Speaker 1 I'm asking questions too.

Speaker 7 Well, listen, um

Speaker 7 first of all i i got my bike july the 6th i think was my first ride last year the guy from peloton came in my house he calibrated the bike he set it up he said hey a year from now um what i would do is is is i would uh call peloton have somebody come back out because the i guess the the warranty ends at a year so right before a year have somebody come back out do this again uh but your bike should be good to go and so i've gotten on the bike and i've ridden the bike and i started at the bottom okay and i worked my way up so to your point about my bike and my numbers being false i've kicked your ass a number of times from the starting at day one okay and that hadn't changed as a matter of fact i i felt bad for you that i've tried to give you the equivalent the equivalent of like food stamps i've given you charity charity numbers on the output to try to make you feel better but guess what even that still didn't help so i i really resent that okay you can hear the emotion coming out i get more pissed off about the peloton than i do about monday night football because the peloton is near and dear okay i kick ass daily on the peloton you do and it starts with the guy sitting to your right big cat yes

Speaker 1 you you do yeah you do you do kick my ass you do the weights do you do the weights mid mid uh ride

Speaker 7 no i've never picked my weights up never okay because they're like two pounds they don't do anything okay but you know what i told him i told him to send me the heaviest ones so i thought they were gonna be like some 10 pounders they sent three pounders i'm like okay this will be decoration yeah for the record i don't actually believe that you have a miscalibrated bike because that's how it is.

Speaker 1 If anybody's better than you, you say, oh,

Speaker 1 their bike's miscalibrated. And that's your excuse for it.
But yeah.

Speaker 7 Listen, speaking of Peloton, since we're on that subject, it's a couple of things I need to address with you. Okay.

Speaker 7 The whole purpose of the Peloton, competition, camaraderie, you know, we've really taken advantage of it during COVID-19.

Speaker 7 But essentially, it is a car, it's a piece of cardio equipment to get you in better shape.

Speaker 7 That's basically what it is. Okay.

Speaker 7 Now, if we're going to do this, PFT, there are a couple of things that I'm going to suggest that you do that can elevate your status cardiovascular-wise, and maybe also

Speaker 7 just appearance-wise.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 If we're going to get on there for a half hour, 45 minutes, the first thing you should drink after you get off probably shouldn't be a beer.

Speaker 1 No, that's it's beers after. That's the whole motivation.

Speaker 1 You have a beer after you get on a Peloton.

Speaker 7 Drink a bottle of water before you get to the beer, though.

Speaker 1 That's a non-starter. No, it's Beers After.

Speaker 1 Big Cat doesn't understand the Beers Afterlife. Beers After is

Speaker 1 a ricochet shit. It's an important part of

Speaker 1 your little Peloton of my culture. 300 people can be.

Speaker 1 No, there's like probably, I think we have

Speaker 1 5,000 people on

Speaker 1 the Buns of Anarchy leaderboard, and Booger's one of the founding members.

Speaker 7 There are thousands of people that ride with us, Big Cat. Just because you're not a part of Buns of Anarchy, do not, please do not.

Speaker 1 Listen, I didn't fire the first shot. PFD just fired a shot across the the

Speaker 1 went after Beers After. I'm very defensive with Beers After.
What did I say about Beers After? You said, drink water before, don't you?

Speaker 1 Well, I'm deflecting Trump. Huger just said that.
I'm the fuck.

Speaker 1 I can't talk shit to Golden.

Speaker 1 Cheating.

Speaker 1 Huger beats me every day.

Speaker 1 I can't talk shit to him about the Peloton. That was like.

Speaker 7 Is that a Coke Zero?

Speaker 1 This is Coke Zero. No sugar.
That was like a...

Speaker 1 You were just like Rudy Giuliani on Piers Morgan today, who said, you know, fuck this. And then two minutes later, they're like, don't swear.
He's like, I didn't swear. No sugar.

Speaker 1 I'm about to no sugar life. Booger,

Speaker 1 I got a more serious question for you.

Speaker 1 Let's just do a little hypothetical. I'm a coach.
I don't know if you saw that. I'm a coach, Tennessee.
You probably should have gone to Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Although, Phil Fulmer, that story you told on Rosillo's podcast of Phil Fulmer putting his hands in your ass on the recruiting.

Speaker 7 Phil Fulmer slid his hands on my rear end.

Speaker 7 He grazed my scroll, man. There was no way I was going to go to Tennessee.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 Said you want to be the center for Peyton Manning.

Speaker 1 If you're a situational football third and 10, what would you say? Run a draw on Spike?

Speaker 7 Third and 10? Probably not. I'd probably do that on second down.

Speaker 1 Do you take that?

Speaker 1 What happened? So that was...

Speaker 1 By the way, that was not your fault. That game, that Bills Texans game, lost control.
When it lost control, it was like the whole thing running around with its hair on fire.

Speaker 1 But after you say something like that in the booth i'm always curious because i doing live like announcing is an impossible job people don't realize how fucking hard it is but you say something like that do you know instantly like whoops that was a mistake or do you afterwards you're like pop on twitter and you're like shit yeah probably should have told them to spike on fourth down

Speaker 7 no it was it was it was pretty instant because I was basically relying on technology because in the booth, like, you're so far up.

Speaker 7 And sometimes you can't see. And I was blocked from seeing the down and distance.
So I'm relying on technology. And of course, the technology was a bit slow.

Speaker 7 I don't know if the Wi-Fi and NRG Stadium was a little slow, but our technology was

Speaker 7 a little slow. And so I thought it was second down.
Well, in actuality, it wasn't. So it's just a miscalculation.
But

Speaker 7 I didn't need Twitter to tell me that.

Speaker 7 I knew that the moment

Speaker 7 like two seconds later. Like, if you're leaning on Twitter to give you anything important in your job, then you're probably A, in the wrong job,

Speaker 7 and B, you probably need a new source of critique for your job.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. That game was crazy, though.
That game did, like, there was a moment in that second half where, like, whatever happens, it was after Josh Allen threw the pitch.

Speaker 1 Like, it doesn't matter what's said, it doesn't matter what happens. This game has lost its mind.
The Hail Mary to the fullback. Yeah, that was a great one, too.

Speaker 1 That, that, yeah, the game watching it, I just felt like I was drunk after watching 50 minutes of it. It was insane.

Speaker 7 So, you know, That's just another day that Anthony Wide for you.

Speaker 1 That's true. Man, I'm taking it from all sides here.
Listen, I haven't given it to you.

Speaker 1 Listen, you made, here's what happened: Big Cat made a little, small, tiny comment after Booger called me out for beers after. I don't think that's a good idea.
And I lashed at

Speaker 1 you. And I lashed at you when I should have lashed back at Booger.
That's my mistake, but you're in the room with me. Booger's not.
But Booger, you can at least acknowledge that I am improving.

Speaker 1 I'm now beating other professional athletes.

Speaker 1 You have improved.

Speaker 7 Speaking of racist things, I've noticed how you try to beat the white guys more than the black guys.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 7 Matt Leonard is kind of your whooping boy.

Speaker 7 Jeff Swartz is definitely another one of those. When it comes to myself and Cliff Aver, you kind of stay away from the brothers.

Speaker 7 And so I'm not sure if that is coincidence, which I really don't believe in. So since we're on this racial undertone across America right now, I may as well bring that up.

Speaker 1 Credit to me. Credit to me, the least racist Peloton rider in America.

Speaker 7 I do want to see, I think that you could become a professional bicyclist i want to see booger wearing the yellow jacket or the yellow shirt getting his cheeks kissed at like underneath the arc de triomphe at the tour de france here's the problem with that is that you know when i first got the peloton i was given two options do you get the seat cushion or do you put the shorts on that look like the pants so i actually i actually went and looked at the shorts and when i tried them on I'm like, there is no way.

Speaker 7 I do not want to be wearing diapers ever in my life. I don't care if I'm on my deathbed.

Speaker 7 so i put the shorts back down and i went bought the seat cushion so being a professional cycler would probably require me to put the shorts back on and i refuse to look like i have on a pair of depants hey to accomplish what others can't you have to be willing to do what others won't booger put a diaper on

Speaker 7 i'm like damn look at you reading some type of book of quotes today

Speaker 1 uh booger i had one last question um what do you got can't remember when it came out the short-sleeve suit that you had. What was that? What was the story behind that? Do you still have that suit?

Speaker 1 It's the most outrageous/slash kind of works look. It's a huge white, maybe even beige suit.

Speaker 7 It was beige. First of all, stop right there because

Speaker 7 you're being disrespectful already.

Speaker 1 Okay. Beige.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 1 Beige suit with short-sleeve. So literally, like cut off and super baggy.
What was that suit for?

Speaker 1 That wasn't your draft suit, suit, was it?

Speaker 7 No,

Speaker 7 I wish it would have been. I could have explained it a little bit more.
So I want you to take your mind back 17 years to 2003 Espes in Los Angeles. Oh, my man.
Summertime.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 7 It's warm in L.A. It's hot.
And so my tailor came to me and he's like, hey,

Speaker 7 what do you want to do? You guys are probably going to, you guys are up for team of the year. Are you going to the Espes? I'm like, yeah, I said, I got to do something different.

Speaker 7 I don't want to just put on a suit and a tie. and you know, he's like, I got something for you.
And he starts telling me, he said, Have you ever won an ascot? I'm like, what?

Speaker 7 He's like, the thing that Cedric Entertainer wears. I'm like, okay, no, but I've seen him.
He's like, I'm going to make you a summer suit. Okay, hence the cut off sleeves for summertime.

Speaker 7 I'm going to make you a summer suit. And instead of a tie, we're going to have an ascot.

Speaker 7 So when I'm getting dressed in the room and I'm putting this thing on,

Speaker 7 I said, this is either going to be incredibly fly or incredibly bad. Now, to my credit, I thought it was incredibly fly.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 But a lot of people years later have told me that it wasn't as fashionable as I thought.

Speaker 1 However, I like it.

Speaker 7 Well, I love it. And if you would have went to, if you would have, if you would have gone to Europe and say 2001, they were wearing those in Europe.

Speaker 7 So I was just trying to bring it to the United States. Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it. Well, I'll say something nice about it.
The short, the, the, the, how bad the short sleeves look completely overshadow how truly awful the buttons are. Yeah, the six buttons.

Speaker 1 So that's something nice I could say about it. Good job there.
Like, it took me a second to look at it to be like, oh my God, does he have six buttons buttoned?

Speaker 1 Hey, listen.

Speaker 7 Some of the things you do when you're younger,

Speaker 7 I don't even know if you can explain. The six buttons, because it was so long, let me see.
Like nowadays, all all your jackets are shorter. So if I did that again, like if I did a redo,

Speaker 7 which I've seriously been thinking about doing a redo of that suit,

Speaker 7 it would probably be only three buttons and the V would probably come down probably like mid-chest.

Speaker 7 And I would just go like wife beater underneath. So I would have to shave my chest so the hairs wouldn't show.

Speaker 7 And, you know, I would go A shirt or wife beater underneath and then just bring it down to like a two or three button.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think Cam Newton actually rocked rocked a short-sleeved suit a couple years ago, didn't he? Yeah, you were just, yeah, you were 18 years ahead of time.
That's all. Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 1 There's also a little part of me that's like

Speaker 1 Monday Night Football was like, all right, well, we've already used this embarrassing photo, so Booger, like, we'll kick you to the curb now.

Speaker 1 Like, they, because they did it during a, I think they showed it during a broadcast, right? That was when it was unveiled.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 7 well, that that photo had been out there a while. Okay, once I got once I got hired by the the network in 2014,

Speaker 7 um, that that photo started making a round. So, uh, nationally, I'm pretty sure it probably came out on Monday Night Football, but it had kind of circulated on the local level for a while.

Speaker 1 That's that's like the key to if you give any tip to anyone who's going on to be the Monday Night Football commentator, like whatever embarrassing photos you have, whether it be if you're bald and now you used to have hair or suits or anything, hold a couple back so that

Speaker 1 you can make sure they can use them them for many years going forward because they love to do that that one random night where they're like it's the but it's the break uh glass in case of emergency it's the patriots are up 40 points on a monday night football game let's start embarrassing everyone that's in the booth and part of the broadcast team yeah you know when you reach that point of the game when you when you got a time you know you you got to become storytellers uh usually you better have something in your back pocket

Speaker 1 Did you ever bring like a prop up into the booth? Like, I remember John Gruden used to bring a banana and like a blender and shit up there sometimes in case the game got really weird.

Speaker 1 Did you ever bring anything up there?

Speaker 7 No, man, never brought anything up in the booth, man. It was a,

Speaker 7 I mean, you know, we had a couple coffee machines, but other than that, it was pretty status quo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, this has been this has been great.
Thank you for coming on. Appreciate it.
Are you? Do you consider yourself a buck for life or a cult for life?

Speaker 7 I live in Tampa.

Speaker 7 So probably a

Speaker 7 buck for life, man.

Speaker 7 I will say this. I flew to Indianapolis on Airtran the day after I got traded.
So, Airtran is not even around anymore. It just shows you how long ago that's been.

Speaker 7 And I was scared to death. I was honestly scared to death.
I'd never been to the Midwest in my life. I was scared of the weather.
I was scared how a black man would be treating the Midwest.

Speaker 7 Like, I honestly had no clue. I get off the plane, and

Speaker 7 there was a lady at Baggage Claim who just came up to me and she's like, you're not from here, are you? I was like, no, ma'am. She's like, well, welcome to Indianapolis.
It's a great city.

Speaker 7 Make sure you go to St. Elmo's.
Enjoy the people. It is the nicest city you will ever visit.
And she foreshadowed what was to come. I met the best people in my life in Indianapolis.

Speaker 7 Some of the best restaurants I've ever been to in my life in Indianapolis. I learned what black ice was for the first time in Indianapolis.

Speaker 7 Like there were so many things about Indianapolis that was outputting to me. Two of the best years of my life was, you know, when I spent up there.

Speaker 7 And those people up there couldn't have been nicer to me. And it gave me a newfound respect for what happened, excuse me, for people that live up there.
And man, I respect the hell out of the Midwest.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 I got a chance to play some good golf balls up there, too. So even though I live in Tampa and I'm around here and consider myself a buck for life, I wouldn't trade my two years in Indy for nothing.

Speaker 1 I love that. I mean, I love Indianapolis as well.
It's a great city. It's a great walking city, too.
You can go everywhere. But I just love the fact.

Speaker 7 When is the last time you walked, like, walked around?

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 7 Are you shit?

Speaker 1 Come on. I actually jumped rope this morning.
No big deal. Yeah, for 10 minutes.
How long like that? 10 minutes. 10 minutes.
Continuous? Continuous.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to work on my diet first, then the workout. Join Bunza Anarchy.
So

Speaker 1 I don't have a weight.

Speaker 1 I'm not rich like you guys.

Speaker 7 Okay, listen, listen. Since I've been on with you guys a couple of times, okay, normally you don't ask a woman this, but I'm going to ask you this.
How much do you weigh?

Speaker 1 Right now, I weigh 220 pounds. Down from, I had a kid a year ago.
I was 245 when my kid was born.

Speaker 7 You weigh 220? Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's a lie. I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 I step on the scale every single morning. He goes to the same doctor as Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 I step on the scale every single morning.

Speaker 7 There's no way you're too big.

Speaker 1 I'm going to step on a scale for you.

Speaker 7 I've never seen a big cat weigh 220. Usually big cats are in the 280s.
Dude,

Speaker 1 I don't touch a carb in a weekday for three months.

Speaker 7 I'm just curious if you don't mind.

Speaker 7 We can solve this. Stand up.

Speaker 1 So I'm front and back.

Speaker 7 Can you see me? No, just turn to the side. I don't need to forward.
Just turn the side. Slide up a little bit.

Speaker 7 No, that's back.

Speaker 1 Don't suck in your gut.

Speaker 1 This way?

Speaker 7 Yeah. Yeah, okay.
Well, you might be, yeah, probably 245.

Speaker 1 245.

Speaker 1 I'll show you a picture. To big cat's credit.

Speaker 1 I'm so fat at 245. If you look at his face when he's 245, you can tell.
So different. His face is a lot different.
So different. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He has done a good job. I weigh myself every morning.

Speaker 1 So I'm starting to work. Because he's not about that for his afterlife, so he loses a lot of weight.
Starting to work out. Starting to work out.

Speaker 1 But wait, wait, I got sidetracked there. I just wanted I want a quote board.
The nicest things about Indianapolis. The people, the food, and figuring out what black ice is about.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Listen.

Speaker 7 Because I had never experienced what it's like. And it was one morning I was on my way to work.
And like I, the first thing you do, like when I was playing, I would turn, I sleep with the TV on.

Speaker 7 So I woke up, I turned the TV on to the news just to see what the weather was like. The temperature says zero.
And the lady was like, hey,

Speaker 7 make sure you're careful with the black ice out there. I'm like, what is black ice? So I called Coach Dungie.
And I was like, Coach, do we have to come to work today? He's like, absolutely.

Speaker 7 He said, just make sure you're careful and take your time. So I learned where black ice was when I went sliding down a hill that was covered in ice that you couldn't see.
So, learn very quickly, man.

Speaker 1 Yes, damn.

Speaker 1 Before we let you go, you're also a tiger for life, LSU Tiger for Life. We didn't get a chance to catch up with you after the national championship game.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you had a crazy night that night, as did we.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on LSU moving forward? They, you know, obviously losing a lot of talent this year,

Speaker 1 but they've got they're going to reload, certainly. But are you expecting top 10 finish? What, in Booger's mind, what is a successful season like next year?

Speaker 7 I definitely expect top 10.

Speaker 7 I think where in the top 10 is going to depend on the quarterback that we have, whether it's Miles Brennan, whether it's Brad Johnson's kid,

Speaker 7 who's a freshman who enrolled in January, depending on who comes along.

Speaker 7 LSU has now entered into the realm of programs. Hey, baby, we don't rebuild.
We just reload. That's all we do.
Okay. You know, we win a national title.
It's Beer's After. It's Cigar by Joe Burrow.

Speaker 7 Let's go on. Let's move on to the next one.
That's what we do now. Now, we're going to have to go out and back it up, which I'm, I'm, I'm surely and truly hoping that we do.

Speaker 7 But Coach O, who you guys know, and I know you've talked to him before, like, he is as genuine as a guy. And I think he's relatable and he's the perfect fit for Louisiana.

Speaker 7 They're doing an outstanding job of recruiting, man. And as long as O is in charge, man, I don't think he's going to allow LSU to to to to go backwards.

Speaker 7 They may not win the national championship next year, but they are going to be a top 10 football team because O is kind of like all three of us, man. Like, O's been doubted all his life.

Speaker 7 Like, somebody told him just because of how he talked, he'd never have a job like that. Somebody told him because of how he looked, he'd probably never have his own program.

Speaker 7 But look where he's at now. He's done it his way.
He's won a national championship and he is as

Speaker 7 loved in the state of Louisiana as you guys are in New York or all over the country, man. Like he's that kind of love.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that he's also a kind of guy that he just, he loves going to work every day.

Speaker 1 like for him it's not about winning a national title like that's great and i'm sure that's what his goal was last year but i think he's just excited every single day that he gets to go in and he gets to coach football that's like a dream a dream day for him is his entire life yeah he's listen always looking forward to to when all this covet 19 stuff in by the way have you nobody's talked about that in about a week okay um

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 as soon as that comes back and it ends again and coaches and players can get back to work, he's he's looking forward to it, man.

Speaker 7 Maybe then as to the jogging outside and having photos of him jogging at the slowest pace I've ever seen.

Speaker 7 Like him, him and Big Cat could have a race. Who could jog the slowest?

Speaker 1 Oh, I'd win that. I'd win that for sure.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 No, I'd go slower. Yeah, no, I would.

Speaker 1 I went for a jog

Speaker 1 two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 It was a little less than a mile. And by that, I mean it was a half a mile, but it was slow.
It was very slow.

Speaker 7 So I think I did. You saw the video.

Speaker 7 You saw the video of O jogging.

Speaker 1 Coach O is slow, but he's determined.

Speaker 1 You're not going to ever stop him. No one can stop him from jogging, even if he's going two miles an hour.
He's just going to keep going until the world ends.

Speaker 7 I sent the message. I said, oh, better use of energy.
Just walk fast.

Speaker 1 It's true. It's true.
Well, Booger, thank you so much. We really appreciate it, man.
Anytime, hopefully you come. Hopefully we can see you travel soon.
See you in New York in person.

Speaker 1 But anytime you want to come on, you're always a guest here. Yep, for sure.
Send me what ride you want to do on Saturday. And I'll do it.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 7 45-minute Saturday. Big Cat, you're welcome to join.

Speaker 7 You know, get a bike, go to a neighbor's house. You're welcome to join in.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll just do beers after, if I'm allowed. I don't know if I'm allowed.
You can always do beers after, Big Cat. Not allowed.

Speaker 7 After the 45-minute ride, group FaceTime.

Speaker 7 PFT will FaceTime me, and he can FaceTime you, and you can see how we feel and the connectedness that we have after a 45-minute perfect absolutely Saturday is my cheat day so I'll have a mouthful of donuts

Speaker 1 his face will look like it's back to 240 yes Saturdays always get out of hand all right thanks boss

Speaker 1 take care man appreciate it

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's

Speaker 1 finish up the show. We got a good week coming, by the way, next.
We've got Blake Griffin coming on Monday, and then we have the return of Dungeons and Dragons on Wednesday. Very excited about that.

Speaker 1 Get excited.

Speaker 1 So...

Speaker 1 The end of the show. We're going to do Sour Grapes documentary review.

Speaker 1 Where do we want to start? Billy, did you actually watch? I did watch. Okay, Billy, who was your favorite character in Sour Grapes? I liked

Speaker 1 the guy who dressed up as a cowboy and went on the front of the magazine because that was the only amusing thing in the whole thing. Okay, so the 10th richest person in the world.

Speaker 1 I thought he was just like a weirdo. No,

Speaker 1 he's like one of the richest people in the entire world. And so

Speaker 1 he got upset that he was being scammed, and then he hired that detective to go.

Speaker 1 Although that was a pretty swaggy magazine cover, I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 I like, I watched the Epstein documentary going into this, and the whole time I was like, which one of these guys go to the pedo island?

Speaker 1 Because if you're that obsessed with like a random, like, lukewarm drink, then you got to be, like, messed up in the head. And they also had a lot of money.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I was like, these guys are definitely going to the islands. Yep.
All right. So you did watch it.
Okay. So you watched it.
So I guess we should start with

Speaker 1 it's the perfect crime. It really is.
Even though he's in jail.

Speaker 1 I know that sounds very like counterintuitive because he got caught, but finding a a way to sell to get a bunch of rich white dudes drunk and then pulling a scheme on them while they're drunk is genius.

Speaker 1 Well, if you're if you're confident enough in anything that you say, you can fool anybody, but it's a hell of a lot easier to fool people if they're all buzzed off really expensive red wine.

Speaker 1 And it kind of reveals what I thought all along: wine people are full of shit. Most of them are, yeah.
Yeah, because 99% of them.

Speaker 1 That end scene is so fucking good when Hollywood Jeff, who's got just some serious, like, red cheeks and red nose, and that douchebag finance bro he rolls around with, who in one of the opening scenes where he's like, if you can't drink 08, drink 96.

Speaker 1 If you can't drink 96, drink 02. If you can't drink 02, drink fucking beer.
And I was like, God, I love this guy.

Speaker 1 He's like Scott Disick

Speaker 1 on wine. I loved Hollywood Jeff.
I thought that Hollywood Jeff, but at the end, when he refused to admit it. He's like, oh, this is real.
This is a real one.

Speaker 1 It's good to know that we still got some of these real ones. What's the guy's name? Rudy.
Rudy.

Speaker 1 It's great to know that we still got some real Rudies. Then they go to this place.
They try to impress all their friends. And his one friend's like, this is absolute trash.
I would never drink this.

Speaker 1 It's not. I think that most people could probably tell the difference between a $7 bottle of wine and like a $70 bottle.
But anything above that.

Speaker 1 You can be influenced by a cool-looking label. You could be influenced by somebody who talks like Rudy with enough authority that he's telling you that this is good.

Speaker 1 By the way, I kind of want to hang out with Rudy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seems like a good hang. I think that Rudy would be a pretty cool.

Speaker 1 If you've scammed somebody out of millions of dollars and you're in jail and they're sitting there in their wine cellar saying, you know what? I'm really glad I got to know Rudy for those years.

Speaker 1 Like, it was worth $3 million to me to just chill with Rudy for three years. Right.
And so that was Hollywood Jeff ride or die.

Speaker 1 They're going to have a great laugh about all this when Rudy gets out of jail.

Speaker 1 the other main character that i loved is the french winemaker who that guy is the essence of class like if you hang out with him you just feel classy down to the car he drove like those those uh drone shots of the of the rolling it is france hills of bordeaux yeah yeah and he's just as cool as could be just defending the fuck out of his wine label i love that guy he didn't even want to do it he was just like i'm he goes to the the wine auction at a place where he could stand to make millions and millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 And he just goes, take my wines out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I will refuse to have them sold.

Speaker 1 I don't understand. It's a pretty good French accent.
The fascination of buying 46,000 bottles of wine, Bill Coke, like that.

Speaker 1 Why? I don't think you want to buy 46,000 of anything in the entire world.

Speaker 1 I would like to have $46,100 bills. There you go.
I would buy that for less than $46,100. If the price is right, I'll get it.
But yeah, 46,000 bottles of wine.

Speaker 1 And this goes for a lot of people in this story. At some point, you just become rich enough that you don't know what to do with your money.
And so you just get into weird habits. It's boredom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, I guess I'll become an expert on wine. That's what other rich people are doing.

Speaker 1 I do respect a couple of the guys in this movie. I respected their love of the wine game.
Like the one guy who has collected every bottle of wine he's ever drank, like the labels off of them. Yep.

Speaker 1 I was like, you know what? Like, if you're going to, I'm a big live and let live guy.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're going to pick the list of hobbies that someone could have, drinking wine and being a little bit of a snob is not that bad. Yeah, and he was pure about it, too.

Speaker 1 He kept it in like a little filing cabinet. He was like, oh, I remember when I drank this with my friend

Speaker 1 Ricky. That was a lot of fun.
That guy was cool, but if you're just going to have him on display down in your basement and forget about him,

Speaker 1 although having the bottle of wine that was made by Thomas Jefferson is also pretty cool. that was cool although that was probably rude he probably fucking made it in his apartment that would

Speaker 1 that would be a very easy one to fake yeah

Speaker 1 and then the the other character I really loved was the investigator with his dog just keep kept on coming into the room and at the end when he drinks that beer and he's just like he's this short stumpy dude who's wearing a fucking suit in his house and like has the tennis ball and he's like see now we can finally play like spot and it's just great i also like that he was referred to as my bulldog investigator.

Speaker 1 Yeah, any if you hire an investigator, he better fucking be balding because then you can call him your bulldog. He better be short,

Speaker 1 stocky, like have a big, decent-sized neck on him. Like the dude from Macmillans, once he starts to go bald, he immediately becomes a bulldog.
Bulldogs.

Speaker 1 Right now, he's like a golden retriever because he's too happy. But like, this guy was the definition of a bulldog investigator.

Speaker 1 I loved, I loved the French guy when he was getting in his car, and he was like, I decided to drive to like Japan. Yeah.
And it's like, did you drive from France all the way like across?

Speaker 1 And then that made me think for a while, like, that's pretty sick that I bet some people have driven from like one tip of Europe all the way to like the tip of Siberia. It's like a snowball race.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's sick.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. I would be interested to talk to people that just drive across continents at some point.
The other Hollywood Jeff, like, dude, are you serious moment was

Speaker 1 they go in, they raid Rudy's house, and the FBI

Speaker 1 officer's like, I could, like, if you, I I think his line was, if you had listed 10 things that I would need to make a case, he had, he had 10 times, 10 times, 10 times 10 of those things.

Speaker 1 Because he had everything. It was literally everything you needed.
And then Hollywood Jeff is like, well, I mean, he didn't have like glue. And like, there wasn't any like.
printing press.

Speaker 1 Where did they all come from? Where did all these fake? Maybe he, maybe he was just buying them and maybe he was creating them so he would know how to spot future fake wine sellers. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's still, he's like some of the guys in the Firefest documentary that are still like, you know what, Billy is a great guy.

Speaker 1 I enjoyed hanging out with him. Hollywood Jeff.

Speaker 1 If Hollywood Jeff was on that jury, Rudy would be a free man right now. Yes.
Even though he's the victim of all this. You'd be like, but tell me this, Rudy.
Like, did you have fun? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He'd be like, okay, well, we can't prosecute him. He had fun.
I also think that if you're making a documentary about fraudulent wine, Please only use one definition of the word seller.

Speaker 1 That got a little confusing when they were talking about the seller of the wine.

Speaker 1 It's like, wait, is this a Mirapet benefit concert or is this like an auction that they're like, are you talking about a physical place or are you talking about a person like a merchant that's selling?

Speaker 1 I want to go to one of those and just drive up the price, but then probably get stuck with wine that I don't want. It'd still be fun.
Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 having a lot of something that was a dumb purchase is kind of how we live our life. Well, I was also looking at it, like, it would be cool to drink a bottle of wine from like 1952.

Speaker 1 Be like, what's going on in the world that year? You know what I mean? That's kind of a cool idea.

Speaker 1 In Hollywood, Jeff's description of like, wine is art, but it's also art that you consume, and then the art becomes part of you.

Speaker 1 That's a big-time wine guy, I think. So that's a big

Speaker 1 one. Chin Blossoms, rosy cheek.
Yeah, that explains why your nose looks like it's going to fall off. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He had some of the worst skin that I've ever seen.
He drinks a lot of wine. But he's also rich.
Good for him.

Speaker 1 I could imagine sitting in one of those angry gentlemen, whatever, the 12 angry men dinners that they used to do.

Speaker 1 Like that, put a bullet in my head where they just sit there with a bunch of glasses of wine and just talk all hoity-toity on each other.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of the questions were, what do you do for a living? Where is your money from? And shout out to Rudy, who just responded, I'm a scammer. I scam people out of money.

Speaker 1 And then he pauses for like three seconds and then laughs. Ha ha.
He's gotcha. You should have seen the look on all your faces.
So January 9th, 2021 is the first day that Rudy can come out of prison.

Speaker 1 Okay, Rudy, I want you to hire Jeff.

Speaker 1 We want Hollywood, Jeff, and Rudy on the show. Drunk.
Jeff is definitely.

Speaker 1 I was going to say he's going to pick him up from Jeff is going to ride while his sober friend picks Rudy up from jail with him. Uh-huh.
And then they're going to get hammered on the way.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking bottle of champagne from 1920.

Speaker 1 The lawyers for Rudy. I've never seen a more incompetent duo of lawyers in my life.
They asked him, like, okay, so what do you think Rudy did that was bad?

Speaker 1 He's like, well, there's a difference between fraud and faking a product and selling it for 500 times the price that it should be sold. Well, the one thing I would say that their argument,

Speaker 1 they were like, but the experience was real. Yeah.
And I'm like, you know what? You're kind of right.

Speaker 1 When it's a product like wine, if you consume it and you're happy and you enjoy the taste and you think it's real, well, you're not going to get those emotions that you felt at the time were real.

Speaker 1 Right. It's not, it's not like buying a fake jewelry or something and then you're going around and showing everyone like you're consuming it and it was a fun time.
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 That one scene where the

Speaker 1 lawyer was outside. He's like, I've had cases with mob bosses with bodies, dead bodies that have gotten less time.

Speaker 1 It's like, so you're admitting that, like, you're just throwing your other guy under the bottom? That's pretty fucked up.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 when they raided Rudy's shit and they got all those bottles of wine, I forget how many they had to destroy, like, tens of thousands. Yeah, why not drink it? Yeah, just give it to someone.

Speaker 1 I don't give a shit. I'll drink counterfeit wine.
Probably sell it. I'll probably, yeah, I'll take it.
Do a counterfeit wine sell-off.

Speaker 1 Or you can host classes and teach people this is what counterfeit wine does. Yeah.
What do you got, Billy?

Speaker 1 The guys destroying it were drinking it. Were they

Speaker 1 didn't pick up on that? No, we weren't.

Speaker 1 Why, were they? No, no, like it was like the joke. Oh.
It's like they're, yeah, there's like you could see them joking about it. Oh.
They're like, they're like, we're not actually smashing all this.

Speaker 1 Ah, good. Good for them.
Good pickup, Billy. And did you also get how he faked the wines? Like, he was mixing them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a mixologist. Yeah, it was kind of cool.
That was cool. So he was actually maybe making better wines.

Speaker 1 It sounded like there was a trial and error that went into it that he was making good wines. Like honestly, he was doing what the big winemakers were doing, but just like

Speaker 1 honestly, probably a little more efficiently. Yeah.
Good point. He didn't have to do the growing.
He was just mixing. I do wish they had sold like a counterfeit auction would be so thrilling.

Speaker 1 Like everything you buy here is fake, but you still can.

Speaker 1 or if they're like everything that you're gonna buy here is fake except one bottle and we're not gonna tell you which one it is a million dollars and then you know what everyone that buys their wine they will think that that's their bottle yeah

Speaker 1 i liked it though it was a good documentary what are we gonna watch next do we have any ideas

Speaker 1 oh we could watch the lance documentary oh yeah 30 for 30 lance armstrong yeah sounds like what were you gonna say billy could we watch icarus no i started out that's all right yeah also i i wanted i don't want to get killed by putin yeah let's watch Lance.

Speaker 1 Let's watch Lance because I didn't even know Lance came out. Yeah, Lance, is that the name of it? Whatever the 30 for 30 on Lance Armstrong is.
The Last Lance.

Speaker 1 The Last Lance with Lance Armstrong.

Speaker 1 2.2 Rick Riley. That's lame.
That was lame.

Speaker 1 All right, so we're going to watch Lance for next week.

Speaker 1 Someone tell Lance to come on. Let's get Lance on.
Be like, hey, dude, why are you a douchebag? Yeah, he's got a podcast. Yeah.
Lance, come on our podcast. Come on, Lance.

Speaker 1 Everyone tweeted Lance tomorrow. Weep out where Big Cat called him a douchebag.

Speaker 1 what that no i said he why are you such a douchebag okay why why would other people think that you're such a douchebag including me including big cat right so it's just a question can't you know come on the podcast to discuss yeah all right we'll see everyone on monday love you guys

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