Christian McCAffrey, NFL HoF Pres David Baker and Super Bowl 54

1h 44m

Super Bowl 54 is here and we’re finishing off a long week in Miami . We talk about the big Penn National Gaming deal and how we may end up on a slot machine (2:23 - 6:07). Coach K is losing it (6:07 - 9:00). Preview of SB 54 and picks (9:00 - 27:58) . Carolina Panthers running back Christian McCaffrey joins the show to talk football, how he needs to apologize for skipping the Sun Bowl, and his sick traps (27:58 - 41:50). NFL Hall of Fame president and CEO David Baker joins the show to talk about his job as historian of the game, being too big for football and the famous knock (41:50 - 77:36) . Segments include Fyre Fest and PFT getting verified, Mike Greenberg’s dumb rules, and a special birthday FAQ


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Speaker 4 On today's part in my take, we have Christian McCaffrey, future Hall of Famer Christian McCaffrey, which

Speaker 4 works perfectly because we also have the president and CEO of the National Football League Hall of Fame, David Baker, the man too large to play football, an enormous man.

Speaker 4 You know him from the knock on the door. We have him.
We talk about the NFL Hall of Fame. We talk with Christian McCaffrey about some fun stuff.
And we have the Super Bowl 54 preview.

Speaker 4 Hey, guess what, PFT? There's a game being played. Let's go.
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 It's the last NFL game until September. It's very sad.
It's crazy that this is the last game. So we're going to embrace it.
We're going to enjoy it. We're going to preview it.

Speaker 4 We're going to do all of that in a second. But before we do that, it's also birthday week.
It's also birthday week. We're going to do birthday FAQs.

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Today is Friday,

Speaker 4 January PFT's birthday. But we're recording it on Thursday, Big Cat's birthday.
Oh my gosh. Schrödinger's birth.
Look at this. You guys all sick of birthday week?

Speaker 4 We're actually going to finish the show with birthday FAQs. So we're not going to talk about our birthday today.
I'm not going to talk about the fact that it's my birthday today.

Speaker 4 I'm going to go ahead and do it. But happy birthday.
Oh, boy. Yeah.
Thank you. Happy birthday.
You too. Happy birthday, Big Cat.
Thank you. Hank.

Speaker 4 That's not my birthday. Yeah,

Speaker 4 when is your birthday? June 13th. Loser.
1993.

Speaker 4 Super Bowl 54. Super Bowl 54 is here.
We are finally here. The last game of the season.
This is a very weird Super Bowl week.

Speaker 4 It doesn't feel like there's anyone talking about anything when it comes to the game. It's also the fact that it's in Miami.
Miami. Everyone's just kind of walking around.

Speaker 4 Here's one thing I've noticed about people in Miami is everyone looks like they work out for a living. Like it's their job to be in the gym all the time.

Speaker 4 So I'm feeling very inadequate walking around here. But yeah, you're right.
There haven't been any like huge storylines that have come out this week.

Speaker 4 The biggest one is probably Andy Reid comparing his grandchildren to sweet and sour pork. Yeah, so he said his grandchildren are great.

Speaker 4 They keep them young and they keep them, but sometimes they also keep them old, very similar to sweet and sour pork. So he compared his grandchildren.
to his favorite dish.

Speaker 4 He invented the concept of the yin and the yang, except if it was a fried dish from a Chinese restaurant. I would actually, if I'm Andy Reid, I would say

Speaker 4 they're like your grandchildren are like your appetite because there's so much fun to spoil.

Speaker 4 There we go.

Speaker 4 They're like uncrustables. It is a very weird feeling for Super Bowl week.
I think it's Miami.

Speaker 4 I think also, not to toot our own horn, but the story of the week was Barstool got a strategic investment from Penn National Gaming. You probably saw it happen late Tuesday, early Wednesday.

Speaker 4 What does that mean? You're right. We're going full tout.
I'm going to be a pit boss. So, dude, could you imagine if I was a pit boss? I'm going to be a slot jockey.

Speaker 4 I would love to be a pit boss and just kick everyone out right in a second.

Speaker 4 I actually, so when I was meeting with some of the guys from Penn National Gaming, I actually asked them, like, it was a kind of a serious meeting, and I just raised my hand.

Speaker 4 I was like, hey, do you think I could go see the eye in the sky room? And they're like, definitely not. Like, legally, no way.
You're going to be. And I was like, no,

Speaker 4 but maybe. And they're like, no.

Speaker 4 They knew that you were just going to try to put together an ocean's 11 type squad you'd have like za being lowered from the ceiling walking out with like duffel bags filled with money it was just a funny moment because these guys are taking you know very serious obviously and you know really good at their jobs and great we're very very happy that they're part of the barstool team now and we're part of them but it was just a really weird moment where they're just like is this guy serious like he just wants to go look at the cameras like i've always wondered that it seems really cool i'd like to get room i'd like to get a part of my take slot machine that would be cool too

Speaker 4 I can work on that. Stella, Leroy.
Yeah. Maybe some buffalo wings.

Speaker 4 What would the other symbols be?

Speaker 4 Stellar the cherry and the ball.

Speaker 4 Tongue would be one.

Speaker 4 Maybe Matt Dog 2020.

Speaker 6 Three-quarter-filled Mountain Dew dip spitter.

Speaker 4 Yep. Maybe a little man trophy.

Speaker 4 Just a tire. The three-quarter Mountain Dude dip spitter with just PFT on it.
This is not PFT. Right.

Speaker 4 Taco Bell Bell. Taco Bell Bell.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that seems good. And it pays out in Roman swipes only.

Speaker 4 Maybe a picture of Coach K laying on his side.

Speaker 4 He does the pass-out thing. My favorite gif ever.
Mike the Tiger, maybe. Are you worried, Hank, that Coach K is maybe losing his marbles after yelling at the Cameron crazies?

Speaker 4 That was a wild move.

Speaker 6 No,

Speaker 6 I think it was a recruiting thing, and I think if you're a prospective player and you see that, you see a coach that fights for his guys, even if they're on the other team.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you want to make sure the guy that paid everyone that's on your team gets respected.

Speaker 4 It was because of loyalty. He loves his players so much that he loves them more when they're opponents.

Speaker 6 No, he just loves them equally.

Speaker 6 It's a brotherhood, brotherhood for life. And that's a great example of showing that.

Speaker 4 But what about the case? Now, here's where we get into the deep stuff. Is this going to affect recruiting for the Cameron Crazies?

Speaker 4 If you're just a nutjob basketball fan, are you going to want to go to Duke knowing that your coach doesn't have your back? Yeah, that was a bad moment for the Cameron Crazies.

Speaker 4 It's just Cameron Crazies until dad yells at us. Yeah, like you're not really the Cameron crazies anymore, guys.

Speaker 4 Because once Coach K starts going, he did look a little, Coach K looks crazy, going nuts, and then they all look like they were scolded by their parents.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Tom Izzo thing, though, it's like you guys want coaching, you guys are like football guys as well.

Speaker 6 What do you mean?

Speaker 4 You can't do that. Tom is right on this too.
No, when Coach

Speaker 4 was yelling at his player, everyone was like, oh, he's coaching too hard.

Speaker 4 Coach K was just, he was coaching. He was just yelling at random kids.
Right. Those kids do.

Speaker 4 You guys are too soft. You can't take a little.

Speaker 4 No, here's the difference. Those kids in the stands, they don't get paid to go there.

Speaker 4 They are essentially, they're making money for the NCAA.

Speaker 4 The Cameron Crazies are being exploited. You can yell at your players if you're secretly paying them with Bitcoin all the time.
They're professionals. They knew what they signed up for.

Speaker 4 But if you're a student, you're helpless. You're the victim in this situation.
Yes.

Speaker 4 I think the NCAA needs to take a long, hard look, as well as the National Labor Board should look at how Coach K is treating his unpaid employees, employees, the student section.

Speaker 4 My favorite part about that entire clip was when Coach K turned to the camera. He's like, Did you get that? Did you get that? Do you need me to do another take? And then he kept on going.

Speaker 4 That was my favorite part. That was really nice.
Yeah. It is Super Bowl week, though.
It is Super Bowl week, but we had to get that in because that was, I mean, he might be losing his marbles, Hank.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying. This is actually sad.
Roy and Coach K all in the same team. He's coming back.
That's fine. Well, no, he's going to kill himself if his team keeps losing.

Speaker 4 No, he's asking them to fire him. Yeah.
No, he said, didn't he say?

Speaker 4 He might kill himself? Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, he said he's going to die before they get good again.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Coach Kat just needs to take away the camera.
He needs to take away all Duke gear from the Cameron Crazies.

Speaker 6 Yep. Give them a game to get back into it, and

Speaker 6 they'll use it going forward.

Speaker 4 They should make them all wear Jeff Capel uniforms. Yes.
Yes. Show respect.
All right, let's do some Super Bowl talk. Let's talk some bets.
Let's do everything.

Speaker 4 Break down the game. Here's a real quick underrated storyline about the Super Bowl.
I just uncovered this one. Sammy Watkins is thinking about just taking a year off if they win.
A sabbatical.

Speaker 4 No one's really talking. He said he just might chill.
A leap year. He's just, yeah, he might go backpacking around a rich kid who's signing all his emails using cheers at the end.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's a rich kid who goes, yeah, goes to Germany for a year right before he goes to Harvard. Yeah.
Andy Reid is, how would he describe that in food terms? He's like a brisket.

Speaker 4 You need to let him rest for a little. Slow one, yeah, yeah.
You need to let him rest. He's one of those juices we used to do.

Speaker 4 Those five-star Michelin restaurants that they only only serve like one, they only can serve like five people a night because that wouldn't take so long.

Speaker 4 Now, this does back up my theory that I've been investigating over the last couple of years that Sammy Watkins is an occult. Right.

Speaker 4 I think that there is some sort of cult behavior that he has planned for. So they'll go

Speaker 4 maybe move down to northern South America and develop a Kool-Aid restaurant. Northern South America.
So we're talking like Peru? We're talking like French Guiana, Bolivia.

Speaker 4 People forget about Bolivia. Do they? Yeah.
I think when they think of South America, like South America, it's Argentina.

Speaker 4 It's Brazil. It's

Speaker 4 Chile.

Speaker 4 That's Australia. Give me another one.
Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador. Nicaragua.
Nicaragua.

Speaker 4 So don't talk about Porto America. Bolivia, yeah.
They've got some nice hikes there. Well, fading to Bolivia.
They've got the road of death. They've got excellent stimulants.

Speaker 4 I'm actually going to look real quick. I'm going to do a quick map, map, deep dive, South America.
We've been getting really into geography on this. Yeah, I like this.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna tell you real breath which country i don't think about enough a great tourist attraction yep peru guyana what the fuck i never even thought about guyana all right there it is that's that's the answer uh all right let's do super bowl talk let's get there it's the week of the big game and sadly the last week to bed on football until next season to celebrate the end of a great season hey it's pft here reminding you that boars head makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless whether you order catering platters ahead from your local Boarshead retailer, or you create your own spread at home with Boarshead premium deli meats and cheeses, you are sure to impress your guests.

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Speaker 4 Okay, that is a mark mark of a truly great fullback if you can't pronounce his last name. Yes.
Yes. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that means he's done just enough. He's adequately.
I know who he is, but yeah, not enough to really make me be able to pronounce his name correctly.

Speaker 4 There's also something that happens every Super Bowl week where we get to the end of it. I'm running on fumes.
I got not a lot left in the tank. So I apologize to everyone.

Speaker 4 Rough and Friday tomorrow, though. Yeah.
Rough and Rowdy tomorrow. I don't know if I'm going to be able to get the anthem out.
You can be do nervous. I believe in you.

Speaker 4 When there was one footprint in the sand, that's when I was carrying you, big cat. Thank you.
Let's get to the finish line. I appreciate that.
So, Super Bowl 54. By the way, I love the Tails bet.

Speaker 4 Do you think I could carry you?

Speaker 4 I'm looking back, and I probably can't physically carry you. No, you probably cannot.
Okay. No, maybe.
Maybe. You can maybe carry me.
We'll see. Super Bowl 54.
What do you guys like in this game?

Speaker 4 Where do we want to start? I guess we can just start with Tails. Tails?

Speaker 4 I love Tails.

Speaker 4 i bet tails every single year i've never bet tails i mean i've never lost betting tails that's absolutely false i have definitely lost betting tails i think there was one year actually i didn't couldn't figure out who i wanted in the game so i just bet all my money on tails it lost that sounds like the start of a parlay in uncut gyms is getting that going right off the yeah but i lost i do just ended i do like yeah i like tails i like it a lot uh i do every year i also like purple for the gator age uh at the end don't anymore anymore because it basically has been bet all the way down because there was a rumor that one of the teams has purple and then there was a rumor that both teams are going to have purple to celebrate Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 4 Oh, so now purple is purple taken off the board. It's basically the worst kept secret.
Purple, I think, is like plus 150 now. It's so stupid.

Speaker 4 So it goes all the way down to minus 120. There you go.
Can't bet purple. Not good value on purple.
Here's the other one I like.

Speaker 4 Will Bitcoin price be more at at the end of the game than it was at the start that actually is a smart bet to put out there because

Speaker 4 everyone who gambles uses bitcoin that so i was thinking about that like you could bet on that using bitcoin and you kind of hedge yourself don't you right because if you end up being wrong and you bet that it's going to be worth more

Speaker 4 Then I don't think this makes sense. You lose less money because your Bitcoin devalued over the course of the game.
Right. Okay.
So if you use Bitcoin to gamble on Bitcoin, you'll always make money.

Speaker 4 money.

Speaker 4 What are you actually picking in this game? I actually think the 49ers are going to win this game. I'm taking the over.

Speaker 4 You're not picking a side? You're not going to give us a side? I'm picking the over right now, and I'm also taking the Chiefs. Okay.

Speaker 4 I have a lot of conviction in that bet, Big Cat. Yeah, that sounded like it really came from the bottom of your ball.

Speaker 4 They're doing it for Sammy. What do you have, Hank? What do you think is going to happen in this game? I like the overpick.
I just

Speaker 4 thought about this game flip-flop in my brain a million times, and

Speaker 4 the thing that I keep coming back to is the Chiefs' defensive resurgence, which has happened in the last like six weeks. They've been very, very good against the run.
Everyone's talking about them.

Speaker 4 I just think that the 49ers are a different animal, and they can pass the ball if they want to. And Kyle Shanahan is a different beast than everything else the Chiefs have faced.
So

Speaker 4 I just think the 49ers have that, like, they've been the best team all year. That's the thing.

Speaker 4 Like, because they were so bad last year and it took a while for people to catch on, and myself included, I think we forget that they have pretty much wire to wire been the best team all year.

Speaker 4 They played that gauntlet schedule in the middle of the season where they went to Baltimore, to New Orleans, and then the Packers at home.

Speaker 4 Basically, they played three teams over 80% or 800% winning percentage. They lost close to Baltimore.
They beat the Saints in New Orleans. They killed the Packers.
Then you go to the playoffs.

Speaker 4 They killed the Vikings. They killed the Packers.
Like, they won in dominating fashion those last two games.

Speaker 4 They had obviously the weird slip up against the Falcons that was kind of a weird like lull in their schedule. And the Seahawks games are instant classics.

Speaker 4 But otherwise, the 49ers have been close to a juggernaut. You know what I mean? Like they have played really, really well all season long.

Speaker 4 And the Chiefs, as good as they've been in this last stretch, I just, I think we're going to walk away being like, that team was so good, the 49ers I'm talking about, and they were so good all year.

Speaker 4 How do we not see that coming up? You know what another different animal is? The Honey Badger. The Honey Badger is making the difference in this game.
He's going to have at least one turnover.

Speaker 4 He has been the key to the Chiefs' defense stepping up. Like, that dude is a guy that you can't game plan for him because he's just so instinctual.
He's such a smart player, too.

Speaker 4 So he's smart enough to get in the right position and then instinctual enough to just like make these snap motions where he gets a shoulder or a fist on the ball, creates a turnover.

Speaker 4 He tackles people very very awkwardly in ways that they're not used to being tackled. That helps to create turnovers too, and he's got good hands.
I love the Honey Badger.

Speaker 4 I would love to see him score a touchdown in this. So you're betting it not because of Patrick Mahomes, but because of the Honey Badger.
No, I'm saying we're talking about the defense right now.

Speaker 4 I think that he is such a key contributor on defense, and he does change things up. So I like the Chiefs' defense more than most people do.

Speaker 4 They haven't lost since November 10th.

Speaker 4 They've been on a hot streak. I think they've got like eight.
They're on eight-game winning streak right now. Patrick Mahomes has been laying up.
He's super, super healthy.

Speaker 4 I think that as long as they don't spot the 49ers

Speaker 4 17 points, which they very well could with the way they've started. If they spot him 14 points, I'm still okay with it.
If they spot him 17, I feel like that's when they have to overextend.

Speaker 4 What about 16? 16? No, yeah, I'll take 16.

Speaker 4 Because it's two scores. It's a two-score game.
I got you. I got you.
I got what you're saying. Yeah, so I really like the Chiefs.
I like the offense. Obviously, everyone likes the offense.

Speaker 4 But they present a lot of problems in the secondary for the Niners, and I don't know if the Niners have enough people to cover Hardman, Sammy Watkins. Well, of course, you can't cover all of them.

Speaker 4 It's impossible to cover all of the weapons that they have.

Speaker 4 The 49ers' defense has been very good, and their front four will get pressure without having to add extra guys. Like, they will get there.

Speaker 4 And Patrick Mahomes, he's not going to, he's too good to have a bad game. Like, I do not expect Patrick Mahomes to have a bad game.

Speaker 4 I just think it's going to be a close game, and the 49ers are going to win. And we're going to look back and be like, that was a team that was an all-time team.

Speaker 4 Do you think that Kyle Shanahan has been kind of sandbagging us and slow playing Jimmy Garoppolo? Yes.

Speaker 4 Not letting him pass the ball because he has enough confidence that he can make people think, oh, we're a one-dimensional team. And then, boom, we put in the Jimmy package.
Okay, so that's

Speaker 4 kind of a joke, but I agree with

Speaker 4 the reality of it because you go into this game, the Chiefs go into this game being like, we have to stop the run. They have to, because that's what the 49ers have shown the last two games.

Speaker 4 And then they can open up. Here's a little thing.
There might be some wind on Sunday. Check that.
I will. I'll be monitoring that.

Speaker 4 I'm also going to make a bold prediction. I think that the Niners are going to hit him with a play-action bomb on the first drive.
Whoa. Play-action bomb.
Okay. So watch out for that one.

Speaker 4 Flea flicker? George Kittle?

Speaker 4 Maybe a flea flicker. Maybe.
I'm not going to be able to get Samuel Flicker vibes. Who's catching? Who's it going to? It's going to Debo.
Okay. He's going to Debo for six.
Nice. Oh.

Speaker 4 First score Debo? Yeah. Exactly.
I like that. Yeah, first score Debo Samuel for six points.

Speaker 4 I mean, it would be the perfect time to do it after Jimmy threw eight passes in the last game. And you're right.
They're going to be keeping him on the run.

Speaker 4 I'm just rooting for Greg Kittle to get Super Bowl MVP, so he has to get tattoos of us. Yes.
That'd be so cool.

Speaker 6 My official prediction is basically a repeat of last year. The old-timer is going to beat the Patriots to beat the new guy.

Speaker 4 Well, no, Kank, from a Patriot perspective, who are you rooting? In the Chiefs. Under and the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 But so you're rooting against former Patriot Jimmy Garoppolo, who learned everything that he knows from Tom Brady and Bill Bellich.

Speaker 6 I'm not really looking at it from like a Patriots perspective. I'm just looking at the game.

Speaker 4 You look at the money. But what if the Niners versus Chiefs? If you look at what you're going to order for dinner, you guys want me to look at everything there.

Speaker 4 What about if Mahomes wins this and then he is well on his way to be in the greatest of all time?

Speaker 6 He's got to look at that. He would have to win six more after this one to be in that conversation.

Speaker 4 But this is an early start. Yeah, it would be.

Speaker 4 I want Andy Reid to win. I do too.
I do, too. I do.
I'm going to bet on the Niners.

Speaker 4 This is probably why the Super Bowl has no buzz this year is because I really,

Speaker 4 if when I bet on the Niners,

Speaker 4 I want Andy Reid to win, but I don't really care either way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when I bet on the Niners and I lose, if I lose my bet,

Speaker 4 I'll be mad that I lost the bet. But at the end of the day, I'd be like, that's pretty awesome that Andy Reid has a Super Bowl.
I'm excited for him.

Speaker 4 It's a motion insurance that you're putting on yourself. I like that.
I like that technique a lot.

Speaker 4 I would love very much to see Andy Reid. And I think what could happen is you're right that front four on the 49ers, they can get pressure on a quarterback pretty easily.

Speaker 4 What is Andy Reid really, really good at? Like, Everett, going back to Philadelphia, eating ribs. That's number one.
He eats ribs and he throws screen passes.

Speaker 4 His screen game is awesome. It's on point.
It always has been.

Speaker 4 I think that that's actually a good matchup. for the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 I don't want to say it's a good matchup because obviously those four guys up front are really good, but it's a matchup that the Chiefs are more uniquely suited to counter than most other coaches would be able to do.

Speaker 4 I just really want to have the Chiefs go down big and then say thanks for coming out, Chiefs, and then Patrick Mahomes like it after he wins the Super Bowl. That would be a pretty cool moment.

Speaker 4 I'm also just rooting for them to win, to get some fire TikToks from Patrick Mahomes' brother after the game. Oh, boy.
He might win Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 4 He might win Super Bowl MVP. A little inside tip.
I'm told this is huge news, by the way. I can't believe Darren Revelle hasn't spoken about it yet.

Speaker 4 The confetti that's going to pour down after the game is going to have tweets on it how cool is that finally we've we've shut it up tweets and we're dumping them on players god that's stupid that is so fucking stupid the nfl gets time the nfl finally gets social media they're printing out tweets and then dumping them on people's heads who's doing halftime uh shakira and j-lo hips don't lie i knew that

Speaker 4 I did know that. I always like to bet on the first

Speaker 4 song of the halftime performance as well.

Speaker 4 I am leaning towards Hips Don't Lie because that's the only Shakira song I know. Jenny from the Block.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 She's from the Block.

Speaker 4 I hope Jennifer Lopez wears

Speaker 4 the dress from the awards ceremony. Is it Jennifer Lopez featuring Shakira or other way around?

Speaker 4 That's a good question.

Speaker 4 Whose name comes first? Jenny from the Block is always such a banger to start with.

Speaker 4 It's like you announce your arrival. I'm still, I'm still Jenny from the Block.
Right. Who's coming first, though? Whose name appears first on the.
It's honestly going to be Pitbull.

Speaker 4 Pitbull is going to come up.

Speaker 6 Jennifer Lopez comes up first.

Speaker 4 Okay. So she's had to go.
Jenny from the block.

Speaker 4 Put it in the bank.

Speaker 4 All right. Anything else, Super Bowl? Joe Buck, Troy Aikman? Good crew.
I ran Joe Buck last night at a party.

Speaker 4 He was kind of walking towards me. I was going to go over and say, what's up, Joe? And he just makes a B-line right to me and he gives me a massive hug.

Speaker 4 How big was his erection? I'm talking, he had it tucked. So I could see the head poking out of the top of the belt, which is a pretty cool look.

Speaker 4 And he was giving me this hug, like both hands full embrace around my back. And I was like, hey, hey, Joe,

Speaker 4 I guess you're on MDMA right now or something. So Joe Buck was tripping.
He had a pacifier in his mouth. Joe Buck was tripping on Molly last night.
He had a candy necklace around his neck.

Speaker 4 He was shirtless. He's just like

Speaker 4 mesh shorts on. It was a whole thing.

Speaker 4 Touch your face, dude. Yeah.
It's so awesome. He looked good, though.
It is crazy. This is definitely, I feel like, the most CNB scene Super Bowl we've had in five years because of Miami.

Speaker 4 Mad Money, CNB scene. Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 4 The Miami vibe, though, everyone's here. You know what I mean? You don't skip the Miami Super Bowl.
You skip the Minnesota Super Bowl. You don't skip the Miami Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 So you just walk down the street. There's people everywhere and celebrities everywhere.
And people going to the beach and not going to radio.

Speaker 4 Yeah, listen, I'm very much enjoying the NFL, like the shirts and stuff that they put out. I know we talked about it earlier this week how I enjoy just Super Bowl merchandise.

Speaker 4 The shirts that they've got here in Miami are fire. Like they are, it's the pink, it's the green, it's the crazy 80s designs on them.
Uh, I'm gonna go back with like a whole new wardrobe of that shit.

Speaker 6 Kind of candy ass.

Speaker 4 A little bit of a shit. Kind of candy ass, but guess what? We're in Miami.
Is Dan Marino doing the coin flip? I hope not. Maybe Joe Montana.

Speaker 4 Dan Marino will get brought out there to flip a rolled up $100 bill.

Speaker 4 Really tightly. That's really mean.
Dan Marino is just a really good guy. And I like him a lot.
He's just a well-adjusted, like, he loves life.

Speaker 6 It's sad we didn't get to catch up a year later.

Speaker 4 What? It's sad we didn't get to catch up a year. Our plan was

Speaker 4 to interview Dan Marino again and just type out the transcript and try to ask him the exact same questions in the same cadence. Or we could see if we could get him to stay a little bit longer.

Speaker 4 Or we could do a table read with him of last year's interview. Might be actually better.
It definitely would. His answers would be better being able to read it.

Speaker 4 We could change his name to like a different quarterback that he hates. Who does Dan Marino hate? Every quarterback with a Super Bowl ring? Right, that.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to remember on CBS when someone referred to Trent Dilfer?

Speaker 4 He definitely hates Trent Dilfer. Who was it when they said Peyton Manning might end up like a Dan Marino in that Super Bowl and Dan Marino was right there? Like, what the fuck? Phil Sims.

Speaker 4 Phil Smith Sims, yeah. All right, so yeah, we'll print up the transcript and have it, instead of Dan Marino, say Phil Sims for all his lines.

Speaker 4 And then at the end, Dan Marino will be like, man, that Phil Sims sure is an asshole, huh? Right. Right.
And he'll be like, that was you, Dan. Yes, the whole time.
That was you.

Speaker 4 All right, let's get to our interviews. We got a great interview with Christian McCaffrey, and then an all-timer with David Baker, the largest man.
Actually, probably the

Speaker 4 largest guy we've ever had on. It's either David Baker or Kane.
I think David Baker. I think he's bigger than 200 pounds, 6'9.

Speaker 4 He is a massive man. He should have been a wrestler.
Massive man.

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Speaker 4 Okay, here he is, Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 4 Okay, we now welcome on very special guest. It is running back from the Carolina Panthers, Christian McCaffrey.
He's here with Verizon.

Speaker 4 First question I have to ask you, you're doing the one more Sunday campaign with Verizon. And here's what the campaign is, PFT.

Speaker 4 They want us to use all the time we watch football and then use that time for volunteer service, community service in the offseason. Do you realize how much time you're doing?

Speaker 4 You guys are going to be out of a job. Yeah, like I don't, I was reading it, and I was like, I don't think we have enough time

Speaker 4 to volunteer with how much football we watch. Not only do I watch the games, I grind tape.
I'm like an all-22 junkie. I sit down, I break that down.
So that's, yeah, that's like 80 hours a week.

Speaker 4 I'm going to have to volunteer. You're going to have to open up your off-season ideas.
Right.

Speaker 4 So, my other Verizon question is: Are you now in charge of getting us good sell service in every single stadium? Yes, that's my job. So, we can tweet to you when people can't.

Speaker 4 Come to me with any of your Verizon questions.

Speaker 4 That was a bad mistake. Yeah, so yeah,

Speaker 4 you're going to pay for that one.

Speaker 4 We'll have all business Pete escalate all our watches. Everyone tweet across

Speaker 4 if you can't get service.

Speaker 4 So can we call you a future Hall of Famer? I wouldn't say that. No, I mean, you can.

Speaker 4 I don't know if

Speaker 4 I'll agree with you.

Speaker 4 I was looking through it.

Speaker 4 You're 23 years old now. Yep.
You have most receptions by a running back in one game. You have most receptions by a running back in a season.

Speaker 4 You're one of three guys to do a thousand yards receiving, a thousand yards rushing, and you're 23. I think you're a future Hall of Famer.
Appreciate that. So thank you.
Say that to everyone.

Speaker 4 That's how I'll start. Yeah, that's how I'll start introducing myself.
Yeah, you are a Swiss Army knife, but the big question is, how quickly can you decipher a text from Cam Newton?

Speaker 4 It takes a minute. I have to go see translation on

Speaker 4 the Instagram feed, but I end up getting it done.

Speaker 4 It's tough. It's another language that I don't know how he understands it, but but he makes do with it.
You know, that's his thing. Have you ever watched him like type it out? I've never seen it.

Speaker 4 I think his keyboard is set to

Speaker 4 that whatever you want to call it. So he types normally, but it comes out the way

Speaker 4 it comes out. I don't know what you would call it.
Yeah, we're friends with Greg Olson.

Speaker 4 He said that he thinks a lot of the reason why he gets passes is because he can decipher what Cam's saying better than anyone else. Yeah, that's why he's been in the league so long.

Speaker 4 It's the only reason Greg has stayed in the league so long. Right.

Speaker 4 Have you met and talked with your new new coach? I have, yeah. Okay.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 talked with Coach Rule, talked with Coach Brady a little bit.

Speaker 4 I'm really excited. I think those guys are, you know, you look at the history of turning teams around who have been struggling.
And, you know, Coach Rule, what he did at Temple, what he did at Baylor.

Speaker 4 And I think, I honestly think we got the right guys to do that, too. You know, we need a lot of guys to step up, but we got a good young bunch mixed with some veteran guys, so it should be good.

Speaker 4 Did you bring up the fact that he spit on himself in the bowl game? I didn't even see that clip. That's news to me.
Oh, we need to pull that out. Spit right on him.
We need to show you.

Speaker 4 We absolutely love it. Like, we actually said

Speaker 4 we like Matt Ruhl and we think he's a great coach. But if you're an NFL owner, when you see him spit on yourself,

Speaker 4 you can toss him off the list. Yeah.
Maybe next year. I'd love to have him, but.
Right, that's like basic things. That's something I would do.
I would spit on myself all the time.

Speaker 4 Matt Drool is what it looks like here.

Speaker 4 That's tough. When he talked, did you get to meet him face-to-face? Yeah, I met him face-to-face.
Was he wearing his smock? He wasn't wearing a smock. No.
He changed it, right?

Speaker 4 I think he said he's retiring the smock. Yeah,

Speaker 4 I hope

Speaker 4 it makes a comeback, though. I'm a fan of the smock to be.
Yeah, me too. Here we go.
Here we go. You ready? Uh-oh.
It's bad.

Speaker 4 He spit directly on himself.

Speaker 4 Like, right down. Like, it wasn't even...
I think it was indoors, too. It wasn't a wind.
You know what I mean? Sometimes you're like, no, no, no, crazy wind. No white box, just right down.

Speaker 4 He's dehydrated. He's stressed for that game.
That's for sure. That's a thick spit.
It was super thick all the time. He means he's working hard.
I can respect it. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I kind of have a serious question here because I've always wondered about, you know, when teams change ownership,

Speaker 4 the actual day-to-day stuff that impacts the athletes.

Speaker 4 Because I always figure, you know, you go about your job, you've got, you know, the things that you need to work on that you know when you go in there.

Speaker 4 Is there like a palpable sense in a building when a new owner takes charge?

Speaker 4 I think, you know,

Speaker 4 I only know from, you know, the transition from Mr. Richardson to Mr.
Tepper.

Speaker 4 And I would definitely say

Speaker 4 there was definitely a new feel in the building.

Speaker 4 And anyone who knows Mr. Tepper knows that he is such a presence.
He wants to be a part of it. He loves talking with the players.
He loves being in the inn, and he is.

Speaker 4 And he's a guy who's not afraid to make moves that he thinks are going to help us win.

Speaker 4 So as a player, it's exciting because you know that he wants to be on the forefront of new technology, new treatments.

Speaker 4 He's building a new facility. Obviously, he's done so much with our team already.
So from a player's perspective, it does matter. And it's really cool when you have an owner who's like that.

Speaker 4 What about the shield at the 50-yard line?

Speaker 4 Are you going to miss that?

Speaker 4 Are they changing the shield to the

Speaker 4 thing?

Speaker 4 Because I just don't know these things.

Speaker 4 I got to come on the podcast. We obsess over here.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we obsess over him. Mr.
Richardson was, he wanted to give respect to the league, so he kept it as the shield at the 50-yard line.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you know, not much. It's so funny.

Speaker 4 I don't even, I didn't know. That's still a thing.

Speaker 4 I mean, we we have the, I think we have the Panther now, right? Now you have the Panther. It's like very disrespectful, though.
Yeah, totally. Isn't that terrible?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, speaking of questions that, you know, we try to always ask questions that you may not get asked by every other interview. Would you like to use this time to apologize for skipping the Sunbowl?

Speaker 4 That's the greatest question I ever got. I mean, Donovan McNabb said that it sent a bad message for the kids.
Bad message for the kids. That was his direct quote.
So would you, I have a sense of that.

Speaker 4 See, you shouldn't say things like that when you have like a history of like not good things, you know?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I won't go that far, but you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, no, I don't know what I'm talking about. Put your ass out.
Apologize.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I apologize to everybody.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, specifically to the kids. I apologize to the kids.
What's the

Speaker 4 I'd actually like you to apologize directly to my son? So apologize to my son for missing the Sunbowl.

Speaker 4 Go ahead. What's your son's name?

Speaker 4 It's Little Cat. We call him Little Cat.
Little Cat. Little Cat.
But he wasn't even born yet. But if he had been born yet,

Speaker 4 he would have wanted to see you in the Sun Bowl. Little Cat, I'm so sorry that.

Speaker 4 I mean, I can't explain to you enough how apologetic I am for missing the Sun Bowl.

Speaker 4 You know, if I could do it again,

Speaker 4 I will replay a Sun Bowl just for Little Cat. Wow.
I'm actually going to hold you that in El Paso.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I am actually upset that you skipped the Sun Bowl because the Sun Bowl is the famous game that Ryan Pace went and watched Mitch Trubisky and was like, damn, they lost to Stanford.

Speaker 4 I got to draft this guy. If you had played,

Speaker 4 you might have been drafted by the Bears. History might have been different.

Speaker 4 You're absolutely right. That's my fault.

Speaker 4 That's my fault.

Speaker 4 Because UNC might have fallen behind by a lot more points, and then Mitch would have... tried to press a little bit to those interceptions.
Right. And then they would have been.
Bad decision by me.

Speaker 4 Do you feel like a little slighted that everyone talks about who passed on Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson in that draft and not who passed on Christian McCaffrey? No, I mean,

Speaker 4 I get that from me. Like, man, they picked Christian McCaffrey instead of Pat Mahomes.
That's terrible. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 I'm happy with her. I mean, it's hard to complain when you go eighth.

Speaker 4 You know, obviously you're a competitor and you want to be the first pick, but, you know, I couldn't have gone to a better organization. Great.
I mean, Charlotte's the best.

Speaker 4 I'm not just saying that either. I like Charlotte Olsen.
I went to a great team. You know, I got guys like Olson on the team where I got to come into the league and learn from him, hang out with him.

Speaker 4 So it's been good. Yeah, I feel like things worked out pretty well for you overall.
Yeah. How that shook out.

Speaker 4 And i i grew up a redskins fan we got you know ron rivera now up there i'm actually very excited i kind of the redskins and i have had a mutual parting of ways over the last five years let's put it that way but now i'm i'm actually reinvigorated because i believe in that guy and i think you know when when uh he left the panthers everything you heard on his way out was nothing but admiration and yeah and glowing praise so can you just like convince me that the redskins are going to win the super bowl with

Speaker 4 well i think when you when you know you i mean you said it best when he left i mean the Carolinas were, you know, just thankful that you got some time with him. And he's a great leader, great coach.

Speaker 4 He's got a great staff, and he's a winner. You know, I mean, the league is such a revolving door.
I mean, no one lasts forever. And, you know, it's very rare, at least.

Speaker 4 So, you know, when I think about Coach Revere, I think of a great leader who's consistent.

Speaker 4 You know, he's not afraid to put the hammer down, you know, when needed, which I think is something that, you know, in the league

Speaker 4 it's needed a lot more than people think. So he's a great coach.
He's obviously got a lot of the Carolina staff going to him.

Speaker 4 And I'm excited too, just for him, except for when we play him, but I'm excited all the other games. Yeah.
So your whole family, incredible athletes, like obviously your dad played in the NFL.

Speaker 4 Your brothers are incredible athletes. Your brother, who is a quarterback at Michigan, Dylan, is he in love with football? He loves football.

Speaker 4 No, I didn't ask him. Is he in love with football? He's in love with football.
Because Coach Harbaugh, he's a good friend of ours, and he is going to sniff him out. He's going to sniff him out.

Speaker 4 Oh, no.

Speaker 4 So Dylan's been there three years now. Okay.
And so

Speaker 4 Harbaugh and him are close, obviously. So I hope he's the guy.
I hope that

Speaker 4 they can finally get over that little hump of beating Ohio State

Speaker 4 and go from there. But yes, he's in love with football.
Do you think you would have been able to make it in the NBA?

Speaker 4 Oh, that's tough, man.

Speaker 4 You're an unbelievable basketball player, and you played all the sports. Yeah.
I'd have been a great 10th man, the elite player. Sam, you're the holdback.
Defense is spec. We need a foul.
Yep. I'm in.

Speaker 4 You know, we need someone to maybe turn it over, but probably not. I'm in.

Speaker 4 Did you get recruited to play college basketball? I mean, play who?

Speaker 4 Northern Colorado, actually, where my dad's coaching now. Okay.
They recruited me to play. I was going to play football and basketball.
I mean, I wasn't going to, but they asked me to CSU.

Speaker 4 And then Detroit. I think it was the University of Detroit, which would have been fun.
Okay. That would have been something.
I think you made the right choice. So, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, recruited. I just saw some highlights, and you were just, I mean, you have obviously incredible athleticism throwing it down.
And it's like, damn.

Speaker 4 I maybe could. It's tough, though.
The guards are 6'5 in the NBA. Yeah.
The point guards. So, I mean, I would have been an anomaly.

Speaker 4 I'd like to see you do the dunk over the goalpost as a celebration one time because I think that would surprise a lot of people. Yeah.
Maybe I'll do that next year.

Speaker 4 It'll have to be early in the year when the legs are a a little fresher, though. Yeah, and in the penalty,

Speaker 4 when you have a lead, because I think it's a penalty now, fourth quarter, the legs are pretty gassed, though. You know, that's a lot of volume to the game.

Speaker 4 It might have to be a tone setter, first, you know, first series touchdown. I like that.
Yeah, I think that might have to be the play. I like that.
Here's a little multiple choice for you.

Speaker 4 Would you describe yourself more as a gym rat, a ham and eggs guy, sneaky athletic, or a coach on the field?

Speaker 4 Hmm. Tough.
Jim Rat. Jim Rat.
first one in last one to leave yeah that sort of guy big big gym rat guy I've always wondered about the first in last out guys because eventually

Speaker 4 you can't have two of them on the same team no there's only one and at what point is it too much at what point do you get there too early like I'd rather sleep the extra 30 minutes and be better you know what I mean right I think that's a that's more old school now I actually love to sleep and I love to you know do my process but if my process now is over I go home is Christian McCaffrey lazy yeah that's the new narrative

Speaker 4 offseason good question question

Speaker 4 did a Heisman voter really tell you that they didn't vote for you because they just didn't watch you play yeah that's a true story they're just to my face me and my my my mother's right next to me at a dent at a Heisman dinner and you're just like sorry dude I had to go

Speaker 4 should I go like I didn't know if I should have gone to the the deal but yeah I don't know

Speaker 4 that's a wild story yeah um all right I have one last question it's kind of a stupid question but How do you get your traps to look so awesome? I think traps are genetic, honestly. Fuck.

Speaker 4 That's not the answer I wanted. Like, I wanted you to be like, all right, here's the

Speaker 4 20 minutes in the gym. Nah, I don't know.
I mean, I think, you know, do like cleans. I think that might get the deadline.
That's an underrated trap workout. Don't focus solely on the trap.
Okay.

Speaker 4 What about deadlifts? Yeah, I'm a big deadlift guy. I like deliveries.
I'm picking up like a bag of chips from the ground. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 4 Yeah, dropping your chips and then picking them up after four or five seconds. You're getting better, getting worse.
It's better to stay the same. Well, I like that.

Speaker 4 Either getting better or getting worse. I do like that.
That's a good good quote. Good football quote.
Yeah, great football quote. Is there anyone in your family that's not athletic?

Speaker 4 That's my last question.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because I imagine. You're such a jerk.

Speaker 4 Like, no, we're all. You're pretty good athletes.

Speaker 4 There's no one that just shows up to a family dinner and is like, hey, I'm doing my crosswords. No.
I mean, no.

Speaker 4 We all play. Yeah, my older brother play.
You know, obviously I play, and little brothers both play football. I'll play multiple sports.
We got lucky. We had to hit the gene pool, which was nice.

Speaker 4 Very fortunate.

Speaker 4 Did you call John Elway Uncle John? I do not call John Elway Uncle John. Never, even when you're gone.
I've never called him Uncle John. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 4 Well, Christian McCaffrey, thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Speaker 4 Go check out Verizon. Do community service.
It's going to be a lot.

Speaker 4 We're basically doing community service till next football season because of Verizon. We're going to have to quit.
Yeah. And if you have problems with Wi-Fi and the stadium, tweet it just correctly.

Speaker 4 Anytime you can, get your tweets out. Tweet it at Christian McCaffrey.
Thank you. All right.
Thanks, man. Thanks, guys.
I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4 And now, David Baker. White bark raspberries have a bluish-purplish hue.
So white raspberries. White bark raspberries is what people.

Speaker 4 Did you do an image search? No, I just

Speaker 4 literally googled: do blue raspberries exist? And this is it. They're blue.
Oh, wow. That's crazy.
White bark raspberries. Mind-blown.
And now for something completely different.

Speaker 4 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is the president and CEO of the Pro Football Hall of Fame David Baker.
You know him. He is the one who knocks.

Speaker 4 We're going to get into all of that. But before we start, I want to read the business card you gave us.

Speaker 4 So you handed us a business card almost instantly, which that's a classy move because you're like, hey, I feel like I'm a friend for life. If I ever get in trouble, I'm going to give you a call.

Speaker 4 Well, that's good for free admission to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but get it. Oh, did you get out of the chat? Here you go.
Oh, I thought it was just like... It is.
I'm David Baker.

Speaker 4 Here's my mission.

Speaker 4 Yeah, here's my mission. You let me, you know, you're coming, and we'll roll out the radio.
Okay, perfect.

Speaker 4 On the back, it says, honor the heroes of the game, preserve its history, promote its values, celebrate excellence everywhere.

Speaker 4 So, do you, you know, explain how you guys came up with this mission statement and what it means?

Speaker 4 Yeah, the mission statement is something that drives every decision that we try to make at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And it's not always easy, but to honor the heroes of the game,

Speaker 4 not only the Pro Football Hall of Famers, but every guy who ever played in the NFL has an archive. And that archive can be added to.

Speaker 4 So it's not just the 326 guys who have a bronze bust, it's all those other guys, 27,000 guys who played. And we can talk about that in a second, too.

Speaker 4 To preserve its history, we got 6 million pictures, 40 million documents that preserve the game.

Speaker 4 And then it's to promote its values. It's not just about the worship of the football hero or even the worship of the game of football.

Speaker 4 But, you know, we as fans think every one of these guys fell out of bed great. Not one of them did.
Right.

Speaker 4 There's not a guy in the Hall of Fame whose quarterback that didn't

Speaker 4 throw a lot of incompletions or running backs who fumbled the ball or linemen who missed a block or defensive guys that missed tackle.

Speaker 4 These guys had to earn their greatness. They had to fight for it.
They had to overcome adversity.

Speaker 4 And it's really about the values that they use.

Speaker 4 They are truly committed people. They persevere.
They don't give up.

Speaker 4 They're disciplined. They're diligence.
And how do they use those values to drag a lot of other people to greatness?

Speaker 4 And then lastly, it's celebrating excellence everywhere.

Speaker 4 You know, when you look at the life of a Roger Staubach, you know, or a Bill Coward Jimmy Johnson, who just made it in with the Blue Ribbon Committee,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 you may not be a Hall of Fame coach or a Hall of Fame quarterback, but, you know, those same values can help us learn how to be a better dad, a better mom, or a better, you know, broadcast professional.

Speaker 4 Thank you. That was very nice of you to say.
You know, and it can also help us learn how to be a better community and country.

Speaker 4 I learned a lot of lessons from Brett Favre about how to become better at the internet.

Speaker 4 Notably, like it doesn't matter how many times you screw up, as long as you succeed like one or two more times than you screwed up, you could be a Hall of Fame or anything.

Speaker 4 Look at what got you here, PFT. Yeah.
I mean, it's incredible.

Speaker 4 But I will tell you, you know, Brett was one of those guys, you know, when we selected his class, it was 10 hours of work with all of our elite media selectors who really work hard on this thing all year long.

Speaker 4 But it took 10 seconds for him to be selected. I turned to the Green Bay Gazette because they were supposed to give his presentation.
And I said, the next, you know, finalist is Brett Favre.

Speaker 4 And I turned to the guy from the Green Bay Gazette and he says, hey, I've got a presentation, but do you really want it? And I kind of paused and looked at the room and said, no, let's move on.

Speaker 4 It's Brett Favre. Yeah, That's interesting.
So I did not know this.

Speaker 4 As part of the selection process, there's a media organization that is assigned to like make your case for you, almost like they're a trial attorney trying to convince a room of jurors.

Speaker 4 It starts with a presentation of five minutes for those guys. And we didn't even hear the one for Brett.
But when I knocked on his door,

Speaker 4 he knew I was going to knock on his door. I knew before I ever came to that city, I was going to knock on his door.

Speaker 4 But when I told him he was one of the 302 best players, coaches, and contributors to ever play the game at that time, I got to tell you, he stuck his hands in his pocket like a 10-year-old kid, and he just hung his head, and the word I would express was humility.

Speaker 4 He knew the shoulders he stood upon, even if you're Brett Favre.

Speaker 4 And then if I could, big kid,

Speaker 4 we take him over the honor show. Our guys who are in the audience, who are Hall of Famers, walk up on stage and shake his hand.

Speaker 4 We then have a press conference afterwards, and he happens to be next to me as we started.

Speaker 4 And I said, how you you doing he goes are you kidding he goes I just shook the hand of Roger Staubach and I would have thought these guys played golf or done something and he said no you don't understand all my life I dreamed of being Roger Staubach right and he paused for a second he goes hey I guess I'm on his team now, right?

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 And I said, forever. It's pretty cool.
And so

Speaker 4 it's a great moment when that happens.

Speaker 4 I mean, that's fantastic because it is like, you know, every single generation, the generation before them, they looked up to the guys that were there and then they joined them.

Speaker 4 So, I just want to really quickly go back to how the actual selection goes down because I think it's fascinating. So, you guys are all in a room.
It's 50 people, right? 48. 48 elite selectors.

Speaker 4 Elite selectors.

Speaker 4 And you have people come up, make the case, so you whittle it down from a pool of how many to

Speaker 4 generally every year. This is a different because it's a centennial year, and we're having 20 for 2020.

Speaker 4 But, you know, most years it'll be 18 finalists. Okay.
You know, Generally that's a senior and contributors that make up three.

Speaker 4 And then it is players and coaches who make up the other 15 finalists.

Speaker 4 And the seniors and coaches kind of go out on their own. And then when we get to that 15, you go from 15 to 10.

Speaker 4 And then you kind of whittle it down to five. And now what is that room like? Are people arguing? Is it the greatest sports debate of all time? Like is Peter King complaining about the coffee?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it seems like a fascinating place to be in. Well listen, we've learned a long time ago the way to get elite media there is food.
Yes. Okay, so we're dying COVID.

Speaker 4 We got cookies for you guys here today. I appreciate that.
I know. But no, I think it's one of those things,

Speaker 4 PFT, where Peter King told me that he does 120 interviews all year round just to prepare for that one day.

Speaker 4 And we've got guys like John Clayton and Sal Palantonio and Jarrett Bell from USA Today. And these guys take it.
I wish fans could see how seriously they take it.

Speaker 4 And most of them say that it's the most important day of their year. Well, knowing how much NFL fans love the NFL, I think we should probably put it in like the middle of April and make it a TV show.

Speaker 4 Well, listen,

Speaker 4 I'd watch it. It's like the New York Times endorsement where they had the whole editorial board sit down.
They put it in. Yeah.
That would make it very.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, I'll tell you, there's things that we're looking at in the future that might be a little bit different.

Speaker 4 But I will tell you, these guys, you know, I didn't get this job just because I'm smart and good looking. I got it for them 400 pounds, and you need a big guy to run this meeting.

Speaker 4 No one's going to give you any back talk. You literally have the best knock of all time.
I think that was really just the resume, right?

Speaker 4 Well, they just took a piece of wood and they're like, here, knock on this. Axon, do you mind knocking on this table right now?

Speaker 4 Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. Yeah, that's a Hall of Fame knock.
That's why you got the job. Okay.
Yeah. But,

Speaker 4 you know, let me tell you, we've got to be done by a certain time because we announce our guys live the world,

Speaker 4 really in the middle, the kind of the high point of the honor show. Right.
And so we got to move.

Speaker 4 And but it'll take, you know, m many times that I've been here, it's taken 10, 12 hours for the Blue Ribbon Committee that selected this cl Centennial class.

Speaker 4 You know, they met together for about 21 hours. Wow.
And guys are passionate about it.

Speaker 4 And one of the things I'd love for, I can't share what goes on in that room or what's said, but I can tell you that

Speaker 4 good stuff, bad stuff. right

Speaker 4 I mean the guys really get into it you have to have an honest conversation and and that's why it's confidential yeah so that guys can share stuff and bounce it off and but I do think it's

Speaker 4 when you make it into the Hall of Fame you have gone under an incredible level of scrutiny by a whole lot of people who are experts at doing it yes what's interesting is that you know you've got the the centennial people that are getting in right now.

Speaker 4 You expanded the class a little bit. I think as the as the years move forward, you're going to run into a lot of log jams along the way because of how the game has grown in the media.

Speaker 4 It's expanded so much that people are way more familiar with players that played in the early 2000s, late 2000s, up to the modern day than they were even with guys that played in the mid-90s.

Speaker 4 Those guys are, you know, since TV rights weren't ubiquitous, they weren't everywhere, you couldn't watch them on every single bar, those guys are in danger of kind of falling by the wayside, even though they had great careers.

Speaker 4 Is there something that you guys have planned going forward where you make sure that there are some spots in perpetuity for the older players? PFT, that's really what the Centennial class was about.

Speaker 4 You know, I mean, this year we have 10 seniors in that class. And you may not know Mac Speedy or Bobby Dylan or

Speaker 4 Duke Slater. But Duke Slater was an African-American who played for 10 years on the NFL from 1920 to 1930.

Speaker 4 Let me tell you, you better be a good player at that time, you know, to play in the NFL during that time.

Speaker 4 A great player. And so we have our senior committee, and our senior committee meets all by itself a lot of times, and it's to find guys who may have fallen between the cracks.

Speaker 4 And then we have our contributors committee, because the league isn't just those guys who are on the field.

Speaker 4 It's those guys who were owners, who paid for payroll out of their kids' college fund because they had to make it.

Speaker 4 Or those general managers who put these teams together or a great guy like Steve Sable.

Speaker 4 I mean, you guys are a little young. No, no, no, no.
Big part of the reason why we got in the game. I'll tell you, I fell in love with this because of Steve Sable.

Speaker 4 It wasn't just the score.

Speaker 4 All of a sudden it was the frozen tundra of Land Wofield and that clot of... grass coming out of your face mask and a horrible universe.
To me, that showed you the determination and courage

Speaker 4 and the character of things.

Speaker 4 And then we're looking at a special category just for coaches because sometimes, you know, for a lot of modern era guys, and one of the things the Hall of Fame does that's pretty cool, is you've got to wait five years after you retire to be considered.

Speaker 4 So if Tom Brady or Drew Brees, you know, was to retire now,

Speaker 4 or Eli Manning retired just the other day.

Speaker 4 It's five years from now before he's eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And I think that's a pretty smart move because it gives perspective.

Speaker 4 It allows time for history to settle and to go into it. But it's a very difficult process.
It is, you know, with so many media outlets like yourself, with

Speaker 4 the cell phone and Brett Farve on the internet,

Speaker 4 it is

Speaker 4 there's an opinion everywhere. Right.
And it's extremely controversial.

Speaker 4 But what I would say is it should be hard to make it into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, absolutely.
It's not the Hall of Very, very good. I love that.
It's the Hall of Fame. People forget that.
I love it.

Speaker 4 I want to be your position. I want to be the president of the Hall of Very Good.

Speaker 4 What steps do you recommend I take to achieve that dream? You know what, PFT? I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 You know, you to me, and I've only known you here for maybe you know, 20 minutes, right? But I would tell you, you excel at mediocrity. Whoa, that's nice.

Speaker 4 That is the nicest compliment I've ever gotten in my life.

Speaker 4 Not everyone can do that. I got butterflies in my shadow.
You're on your way, buddy. You're on your way.
Can we talk about you personally? I'm gonna knock on my own door. Congratulations, PFT.

Speaker 4 Thank you, PFT.

Speaker 4 You didn't play football because you were, quote, too, literally too big to play football. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What does that mean? You were a great basketball player. You played in college.
You played in the pros.

Speaker 4 Where I grew up, they weighed you to play football as a kid. Okay.
Okay. And, you know, when I was eight or ten years old, you know, I was about PFT side.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 6.18-year-old, yeah. And they would have put me in with

Speaker 4 15-year-olds. Right.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 we kind of corrected this in the next generation with both my kids. Right.
You know, Sam played in the NFL and he was a three-time All-American SE. And Ben played both in high school and some at Duke.

Speaker 4 But I've always loved football the most. Yeah.
I love football. Basketball got me to college.
And for me,

Speaker 4 it's important because we all come from someplace.

Speaker 4 For me, my mom and dad couldn't read or write. And if it wasn't for sports, I wouldn't have gone to college.
I wouldn't have gone to law school, had the opportunity to play around the world.

Speaker 4 And I certainly wouldn't wouldn't be sitting with guys like you here. Which is probably a downgrade, yep.
No,

Speaker 4 you know, we're sitting in a pretty special place.

Speaker 4 I love that story, though, because you are, you know, the guy who's basically in charge of the history of the game.

Speaker 4 You're the president and CEO of the Hall of Fame, and you love football, from everything I've read, more than pretty much anyone who's ever walked this earth.

Speaker 4 And you didn't play, but that almost is like poetic and perfect because that's how much you love it.

Speaker 4 Cat, that's kind, and I appreciate it. I do love it.
And again, what I love about sports, and this may be a serious topic for you guys.

Speaker 4 No, but what I'll tell you, what I care about it is there are so many lessons you can learn from sports.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got the greatest job in the world because I'm hanging with some of the best football players in the world. But I've learned that they're pretty good people, too.

Speaker 4 And the game isn't just for those guys who have a bronze bust or those guys who got paid for it, like my son.

Speaker 4 The game is for guys who become firemen and soldiers and police officers and fathers.

Speaker 4 And respectfully, you know, when your life is, you know, screwed up, and every one of us are at some point, okay, when your life is screwed up, you don't go back to your chemistry teacher, your calculus teacher for life advice.

Speaker 4 But I'll tell you, almost all of us go back to that coach. Yeah.
And I really believe, Big Cat, that it's because that coach teaches you

Speaker 4 how to keep going when you don't think you can or how to get up when you can't. So I love this because there's so it's it's great football and man, I love football.

Speaker 4 But I don't love it as much as John Madden does

Speaker 4 or some of the other guys that I've been with. I mean, I'll tell you, they,

Speaker 4 you know, Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick was on our blue ribbon committee, okay?

Speaker 4 And he said it was one of the best days of his career.

Speaker 4 This guy with eight rings, you know, talking about, you know, being at the Hall of Fame on that day, making history by selecting the Centennial class. These guys love the game.
Right.

Speaker 4 And to me,

Speaker 4 it's a fun game to be with your friends, to scream and yell, to cheer for your team, to drink a beer. But there are so many wonderful lessons in it.
And

Speaker 4 it's done a lot for me. Sports has done a lot for me.
It's done a lot for my two boys.

Speaker 4 And I hope that I and we can give back to it. Yeah.
So you've been all over TV the last couple weeks. You surprised Bill Cower, you surprised Jimmy Johnson.
The waterworks started to flow.

Speaker 4 You were saying there.

Speaker 4 They were so, it was great because you got to see them in the moment where they realized and it all hit them like the culmination of my career is that I'm amongst this elite group.

Speaker 4 And you've got to see that reaction just from looking at you. And you've kind of, you've been famous over the years for, like we said, your knock on the door.

Speaker 4 That's what happens that Saturday before the Super Bowl, right? You go around, you tell everybody, congratulations, you made it. I'm wondering if there's one person.

Speaker 4 whose door you may have knocked on that was more memorable than the others, whether it's for a strange reason or for something that spoke to you.

Speaker 4 Well, you know, that's like asking me, which one of my kids do I love the most?

Speaker 4 Actually, let me ask you that. The kid that went to USC or the kid that went to Duke?

Speaker 4 My son Ben says I love him most, but I love them both the same.

Speaker 4 But I will tell you, PFT, it's,

Speaker 4 you know, I learned a lot my first year. We didn't have time to knock on the door, so we had to call guys.

Speaker 4 We had to get them across New York to Radio City Music Hall where they were going to be revealed again live to the nation. So I called Michael Strahan first because he was was at his house.

Speaker 4 I then called Derek Brooks because I knew Derek Brooks. I considered him a buddy and wanted to give some news to a good buddy.
My third one was to Ray Guy,

Speaker 4 Punter,

Speaker 4 been a finalist 29 years. He'd been eligible.
And my area code on my phone is 714 from Orange County, so it's not 330 from Canton. He almost didn't answer.

Speaker 4 But fortunately, like the fifth ring, he did. And he's got this great Southern Mississippi draw, and he said, yes, sir.
And I said, hey, Ray, this is Dave Baker.

Speaker 4 I'm the new president of the Hall of Fame. I've been there two months.
I said,

Speaker 4 He said, Yes, sir. And I said, I just want to tell you that it is my great pleasure.
And I got that far, and I could hear him fall to the floor. His phone is rattling around.

Speaker 4 His wife is saying, Honey, baby, are you okay? And I thought I'd killed my first Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 Not a great first day of the day. But it was like two minutes.
The one thing you can't do. It was two minutes to get him up,

Speaker 4 which is a long time when you're trying to get somebody on the air over to Radio City Music Hall. And it occurred to us, man, you know, we need to let fans see how important this is.

Speaker 4 And so from there, you know, I knocked on Jerobin Bettis' door, and he got,

Speaker 4 he got,

Speaker 4 there had been a couple times that he hadn't made it, so he got tired of waiting and felt he didn't make it again, and he left and the maid came to the door.

Speaker 4 I told you, you know, a little bit about Brett Favre.

Speaker 4 Kurt Warner was special for me because I'd been commissioner in the Arena Football League.

Speaker 4 but Ron Wolfe was an interesting guy because

Speaker 4 he came to the door, you know, thank goodness, and he had a, he was resplendent with a tie and his shoes were signed, but he didn't want to wrinkle his pants, so they were hanging over a chair.

Speaker 4 You know, so I had this camera crew with me, like your guys here, and I said,

Speaker 4 I said, hey, Ron, I got good news and bad news. The good news is you're in the Hall of Fame.
You're going to Canton. I said, the bad news is you're on national TV.

Speaker 4 And he said, it didn't care.

Speaker 4 Most of them cry. And specifically for Bill and Jimmy,

Speaker 4 I don't have a vote in any of this. I just run the meeting.
I don't have a vote. But when I open up the envelope, which is done by auditors,

Speaker 4 Ernst ⁇ Young

Speaker 4 did this one. And I'm always surprised.

Speaker 4 And I was surprised that it was Jimmy and Bill. And within about 10 minutes, we realized that, hey, one's on TV on Saturday and one's on TV on Sunday.

Speaker 4 And we started to go to work on that because, again, what was really cool about that wasn't Dave Baker being on TV. I mean, quite honestly, a terrier pigeon could do my job.
I disagree.

Speaker 4 You add an element of

Speaker 4 pageant woodpecker to the presentation that you cannot simulate.

Speaker 4 But I think what I try to do is tell them three things. Number one, you're going to Canton.
Canton is a special place with 4,800 volunteers that take two weeks of vacation to put on this enshrinement.

Speaker 4 And every player wants to begin his career at the draft, but they want to end their career in Canton.

Speaker 4 The second thing I tell them

Speaker 4 is that

Speaker 4 they're going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And the third thing is that we're going to keep their legacy forever.

Speaker 4 Chris Dolman, who passed last night, we will tell his, the guy who's got Dave Baker's job 100 Dave Bakers from now will tell the story of Chris Dolman, not just the football player he is, but I think a very special man.

Speaker 4 So, you know,

Speaker 4 for us, it's just telling that story, and then it's getting out of the way.

Speaker 4 I mean, Bill Cower is a private guy, and he's got that chin out there on the sideline showing that determination.

Speaker 4 But let me tell you, once he heard that, and once he saw his wife and daughter, and Jimmy, I thought, hey, I thought we were going to have to give him oxygen. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 that's what we want. We want fans to see how important this is to these guys because when it happens,

Speaker 4 you know, respectfully, I've had the opportunity to do this maybe 60 times now and look into the eyes of these guys. I mean, Randy Moss was a,

Speaker 4 I think Randy Moss,

Speaker 4 I think I got privileged to watch him not just be a great football player, but be a great man.

Speaker 4 You know, he's taken in

Speaker 4 his son's kids.

Speaker 4 I think very highly of Randy Moss. But, you know, when that happens, They're not thinking of records and Lombardies and statistics.

Speaker 4 They're thinking about their

Speaker 4 mom who drove them to practice when they were 10 years old. They're thinking about the dad that didn't let them quit or the coach that inspired them or the teammates

Speaker 4 that sacrificed for them.

Speaker 4 And man, it is all that in a flash. It's just a thousand images.
So much so that Jimmy Johnson just couldn't talk.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 it's real special. And the special part of that, when we can do it, is to have fans see that.
And for fans to see how special that is.

Speaker 4 So what we do in the media is we like to say someone's a future Hall of Famer, whether they may be or not.

Speaker 4 Would you be interested in possibly consulting with us so we can call you up and be like, hey, David Baker, can we say this guy's a future Hall of Famer? Are you allowed to do that?

Speaker 4 You know, I don't know if I'm allowed to do it. I'd be glad to do it for you.
Okay, Jameis Winston. But, you know, my answer is probably always going to be the same.
Yes. Could be.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 You know, could be. Janus Winston could be.

Speaker 4 Could be.

Speaker 4 You're not saying no. And that's it now.
All right. That's good for us.
We'll take a not no from Janus Winston.

Speaker 4 But that's, we'd love to do that. We'd love to say future Hall of Fame or this, future Hall of Fame or that.
I think we need a committee who's like someone who's heading that committee.

Speaker 4 Can you say future Hall of Fame? I feel like Dr. Dash could be us.
Would you give us the permission to act on your behalf legally

Speaker 4 does not involve any payment or pay

Speaker 4 absolutely we can sign all legal documents as you

Speaker 4 I need your checkbook

Speaker 4 social security number yes I'm actually I'm interested to know you you mentioned the phrase the elite committee of deciders that get in that room

Speaker 4 it's almost like a 12 angry men situation yeah if what what are the qualifications how does one get into that committee well it's generally somebody who's very respected in the media number one our bylaws say that you've got it to be in the media covering football.

Speaker 4 And now we also have two Hall of Famers in there, but they happen to be guys who are involved in the media. James Lofton from CBS and

Speaker 4 Dan Fouts, who I believe is with ABC. And CBS as well.

Speaker 4 CBS as well.

Speaker 4 But these guys are... you know, the best in their business, but they also happen to be Hall of Famers.
Right.

Speaker 4 And again, what we did with the Blue Ribbon Committee this year was a little bit different. You know, we had 13 elite selectors who were media guys.

Speaker 4 We had seven

Speaker 4 football professionals who were Hall of Famers. We had John Madden, Dick LeBeau,

Speaker 4 Ron Wolfe, Bill Pollion, Gil Brandt,

Speaker 4 Archie Newsom, and Belichick was the other one.

Speaker 4 And then we had five historians. And I'll tell you, it was a wonderful perspective.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 how can I put it this way?

Speaker 4 For guys from Barstool Sports, it's like being

Speaker 4 in the bar, you you know, talking about stuff with enormous information that's available to you. You know, film, data, other stuff, and

Speaker 4 having a great conversation. But

Speaker 4 the conversation

Speaker 4 involves stuff like, hey, what if a guy's career was interrupted by four years of military service in World War II? How do we treat that guy?

Speaker 4 What if a guy happened to be a great player, but he's also a great coach or great GM?

Speaker 4 And they're just in-depth conversation from really, really good,

Speaker 4 intelligent football people that bring different perspectives to it.

Speaker 4 All right, a little bit of a different question.

Speaker 4 Canton, August, it's hot.

Speaker 4 You sweat through your suit. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's impressive. You know what?

Speaker 4 It's a lot different than Newport Beach, California. Yeah,

Speaker 4 by the way, it's different during the winter, too. Right, right.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 it's a great place to be. But Canton is a magical place.
Yes. And what's

Speaker 4 to have all those Hall of Famers, to have all those volunteers there.

Speaker 4 If guys haven't been, you know, I would welcome them the first time. Well, okay, so I told you we were going to say this.
So we've been,

Speaker 4 our goldfish is actually buried in Canton. Oh,

Speaker 4 we had a goldfish that picked 60% against the spread for an entire NFL season. We made him a little gold jacket, and we buried him in a tree right on the other side of that highway.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Right down there. 177.
Yes, next to the river and a park down there. Yeah, we had a whole ceremony, so our goldfish is in canton.
Is the grave marked? Yes. Yes.
You put a plaque on the tree.

Speaker 4 He's buried right in front of it. Beautiful.
I will look for it, guys. Does that sound weird to you? Is that a weird move?

Speaker 4 Not coming up. Okay, I got it.
I got the little offense that it was weird. I expected it.

Speaker 4 In the grand scheme of things, it's strange, but given the two individuals you're looking at, it's about har for the course. Yeah, I understand.
Maybe that's the start of the Hall of Very, Very Good.

Speaker 4 That's the start of Hall of Fame. That's respectful to Larry a little bit because he was great.
He was

Speaker 4 very, very good. 60%.
He's very, very good. Maybe, is there an animal wing of the Hall of Fame for animals?

Speaker 4 So, for example, if Swagger 2, the new Browns dog, I think he's still undefeated at home.

Speaker 4 If he ends his career undefeated at home, I feel like there should be an animal wing. You know what?

Speaker 4 We have talked at one point in time about having other Hall of Fames there. We do have the Ford Hall of Fans.
Okay. So on Friday, I will also knock on the door of one of the three finalists.

Speaker 4 So at the Z Hotel, I'm room 15.

Speaker 4 I'm 14. But I mean, we can be in the same room.
I'll keep the room open. I'll keep it open.
You don't even have to knock. Who's nominated this year for fans? You know, let's see.
It is Tampa Bay.

Speaker 4 I know that. Stephen Shea.

Speaker 4 Oh, the guy with Big Nut or whatever his name is.

Speaker 4 These are always guys who you'd recognize. Yeah, of course.
of course. And different stuff.
But the guys who won last year

Speaker 4 were from Pittsburgh, Miami, and from Chicago. They actually picked three that first year.

Speaker 4 But there's a Ford Hall of Fans that is very, very clear. I love that.
What about the Seattle Seahulk? You know him, the guy that sits in the front row?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't think he's nominated this year, but

Speaker 4 all those guys participated. What's the process? Is there just like who's the best fan, or is there like a community service element? It's online, and

Speaker 4 can I say

Speaker 4 it's, I think on

Speaker 4 they vote on it. Correct.

Speaker 4 Say one more time. We'll bleep it again.

Speaker 4 Bleacher Report. Bleacher Report.
We'll bleep that book. Yeah.
I actually, you're speaking at different Hall of Fames. Can I interest you in the Big Dog Hall of Fame?

Speaker 4 It was an idea of mine a few years ago. The Big Dog shirts.
Remember, these are lifestyle brands? But you don't understand. If I'm not in a coat and tie, which I live in.
You're in a big dog shirt?

Speaker 4 I'm a big dog short guy. Yes.

Speaker 4 Big dog.

Speaker 4 Okay, so this is actually like serendipity because I think

Speaker 4 on the porch. Yes.

Speaker 4 So I said when I when I said I want to make the big dog Hall of Fame, I said inaugural class, Glenn Robinson, big dog, the big show from wrestling, Beethoven, the actual dog, Frank Thomas and Robert Tractor Taylor.

Speaker 4 And I said, we need you to be the commissioner of that Hall of Fame as well.

Speaker 4 Let's get an endorsement, get a sponsor, and let's go.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 I could go on and on. Every year we just induct two new big dogs.
They don't have to be great. They could be whatever.
They're just big dogs. Guys that are just, you know, they come in in the room.

Speaker 4 They're a big dog. Celebrating excellence everywhere.
Right, yeah. Even in the fields of large animals.
Right. And Jose, that's a big dog.
My dog, Leroy, is a big dog. He's a big dog.
He's an NFL.

Speaker 4 What do you think is Leroy? He's an English mastiff. So at his peak, he was about 180 pounds.
Okay. But he's also.
Is that the dog you think I got? He's in the business. You strike.

Speaker 4 No, French bull. No, no.
French mastiff.

Speaker 4 Dog de Bordeaux. Okay, let me see.
I don't know if you can get this here. Well, so you're in the big dog hall thing now.
This is perfect. This is the greatest day of my life.
I see.

Speaker 4 I've got.

Speaker 4 You just knocked on his door. I know.
And put him in the big yard. I'm in the big dog hall of fame, commissioner.

Speaker 4 Oh, there it is.

Speaker 4 Four-pound Yorkie. There it is.

Speaker 4 He's almost lost his life several times when I got up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. Oh, no, yeah, dog, yeah, dog.
Christopher, you sound like Cozette.

Speaker 4 What is your favorite most obscure item in the Hall of Fame? My favorite. Like the one thing you walk by and you always stop and maybe look at a little bit more.
So not a Hall of Famer, but an item.

Speaker 4 I always am interested in like cleats, footballs, however it goes.

Speaker 4 You know, I think for me, I mean, you're probably, I mean, we've got stuff there. You know, Tom Brady got in trouble for deflating a ball.
Right.

Speaker 4 Okay, let me tell you, Paul Brown, Hall of Fame coach, he had a ball warmer that looks like this pineapple thing that you put the ball in. Right.

Speaker 4 You know, so that his quarterback would have a warm ball on cold days. There is enormous stuff there.
Like I said, 6 million pictures, 40 million knockas, and a ton of stuff. Right.

Speaker 4 But I would tell you, seriously, my favorite place is the gallery. You know, I mean, there's a lot of nights that I'm leaving work and it'll be midnight, you know, and nobody's there.

Speaker 4 And I'll walk through those bronze busts.

Speaker 4 And Coach Madden had the famous interim speech where he said that he's convinced that when the last fan has left and the janitor, you know, turns out the lights and all those guys talk to each other.

Speaker 4 I believe that he actually believes that. And I believe that he believes it.
And I also believe that you are right, PFT. He absolutely does.
And you can't convince him otherwise.

Speaker 4 When I go into that, sometimes

Speaker 4 I'll take an extra 15 minutes walking through that bronze bust room, just me and them.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 it's the coolest job in the world. Does it ever occur to you that one day your bust might be in there as well? I think there's a weight limit.

Speaker 4 They probably wouldn't go with a head this big. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 It's nice of you to say that.

Speaker 4 But there have got to be some moments where you're like,

Speaker 4 one day this could be me. Yeah.
Never. Whoa.
Never. I mean, I don't.
That gave me chills. You know,

Speaker 4 these guys are so elite and so special.

Speaker 4 I don't think it's just about the worship of football heroes. Right.

Speaker 4 Or just the worship of the game of football. I think there's a lot of good here.
And, you know, you guys, I think you've interviewed Belichick.

Speaker 4 We have not.

Speaker 4 And my good love to, can you set that up? Yeah, let me tell you, Bill is a guy who, you know, you better know commitment if you're going to play for him.

Speaker 4 But, you know, all those things are really important in the NFL. Yeah.
But they're more important on the battlefield. They're more important in a family.

Speaker 4 They're important in your company and what you do. So that's what I love about it.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 I'm getting paid for doing something that I really love.

Speaker 4 This is why he's actually going to be in the Hall of Fame

Speaker 4 because the question was, do you ever picture yourself in the Hall of Fame and you just went on to describe all the great qualities of the people that are in the Hall of Fame and football and how much you love football.

Speaker 4 That answer, of you saying why you shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame was actually the best campaign ad that you could ever have to be in the Hall of Fame. Right.
And

Speaker 4 my last question was going to be, what suit size are you for your jacket? You know, I'm about a 64.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 And again,

Speaker 4 we'll get it set up.

Speaker 4 You guys saw Bill Cower and Jimmy Johnson, right? Yep. And you realize that the camera adds five pounds.

Speaker 4 Sometimes more.

Speaker 4 So I was probably about 405 on that day.

Speaker 4 But I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 Someday when I'm through with my job and

Speaker 4 you guys are still doing yours, what I'd love to have you say is, man, that guy cares. Yeah.
I'll say it right now. You care.
That guy cares. And size 64 will get a ton of time.

Speaker 4 It'll actually be a big dog's jacket. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Perfect.

Speaker 4 All right. Well, David Baker, thank you so much.
This has been great.

Speaker 4 I had fun this weekend. I do have one last, last, super quick question.
What do you need to have on your resume to be eligible for the Pro Football Hall of Fame? Do you have to play in the NFL?

Speaker 4 Well, you have to be a professional football player or be involved in professional football. So a general manager might not have played.

Speaker 4 An owner, you know, Pat Boland last year. What is that?

Speaker 4 Arena or XFL? Will XFL players be eligible? Yes,

Speaker 4 Pro Football. You know, we haven't had one kind of stuff.
And by the way, we've got a broadcasting award. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We've got the Pete Roselle Award.

Speaker 4 We're going to focus on the fan award. Again, we'll give you, I'll actually give you my room key

Speaker 4 that will make it easy tomorrow. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Come by. No offense, Pickett, but I suppose I'm not the only person you said that to.
No, he's going to have

Speaker 4 several. It's mostly the pizza delivery guys.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. The ice cream.
We talked about the ice cream. David Baker, thank you so much.
We really appreciate it. That was wonderful.
I appreciate it. Thank you guys for all you do for the game.

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Speaker 4 Okay, let's get to some segments. Let's finish up Super Bowl week, Super Bowl week, Super Bowl 54.
I like to just say Super Bowl, knowing we're not allowed to say Super Bowl. Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 I think that we are. Super Bowl.
I think we are allowed to say

Speaker 4 the big game, fuck you. Super Bowl.
Roger Goodell, clown nose. Super Bowl.
Super Bowl. Fraud.
Frauds. Fraud Commissioner.
Illegal. Federal crime.
Roger Goodell.

Speaker 4 I want you to go re-download this episode and give us more money because we're talking about the Super Bowl. Super Bowl.
By the way,

Speaker 4 after the sale, now we just want to update people. A lot of people are like, hey, you guys must be rich now.

Speaker 4 All business Pete, he actually got most of that money from it. So tweet at him, ask him for money.
I think he's doing like a cash app everyone where he's cash apping people.

Speaker 4 I think it's like $20 for the first 500 people to cash app him. Hit up all biz Pete people.

Speaker 4 Hold on. Yeah, sorry.
I like it. Sorry, PFT, you have it slightly wrong.
So the deal is... I don't think I do.
No, no, you do. You do, because it's the first 50 people to get to tweet at him get $20.

Speaker 4 But if you tweeted him more than 10 times, then you get re-entered into it. Multiplier.
Right. So after the 10th.

Speaker 4 situation right after the 10th tweet to all business Pete every tweet after that is one dollar that he will cash up you so if you tweet him a million times you will get a million dollars minus the ten initial registration tweets in our official super bowl Pete money giveaway right yeah right also we're now making $76,000 in that wow big check coming yeah after every episode fire fest So I know I don't take this segment seriously sometimes.

Speaker 6 You know, I don't really have a lot of Firefests, but this week,

Speaker 6 I know it's a celebratory week, Barcelona evaluation, whatever, all that good stuff. Birthday week, birthday week.
You guys 35 years old.

Speaker 4 Why are you going to say it like that?

Speaker 6 It just brings me back to when

Speaker 6 this podcast was started four years ago. You guys were just young, 31-year-old whipper-snapper.
I think you were 32 at that point.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's how time works.

Speaker 6 And we were just going after, you know, satire sports comedy podcasts.

Speaker 4 Go after traditional sports media. 33, 33, 34, 35.
Yeah, four years ago, we were 31. 35 minus 44.

Speaker 4 I told you that math class would work out for me.

Speaker 6 We were all unverified, just young guys going into the world, going to take on traditional media. And today, four years later, I am alone.
I'm the only one that's unverified.

Speaker 6 You know, you guys say nothing's going to change. When the sale is going to happen, nothing's changed.
But I'm just looking.

Speaker 4 in front of you two guys and I'm just looking at two blue check marks the people that we used to go against the most it's fair i bet i've been verified for a long time to help the airline industry

Speaker 4 and PFT got verified on Tuesday night. Randomly.
Randomly. I was verified a couple years ago and I gave it back, but they kept sending it back to me.

Speaker 4 It's like you move houses and your old cat follows you to a new one. So you didn't ask for the cat to come back.

Speaker 4 You didn't send an email. I don't know how these things work

Speaker 4 behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 Everyone in our company got verified. I think the exact terms and conditions

Speaker 4 of the Twitter agreement and the license. If Jack wants to come on and explain why he chose to give it to me, but I will say

Speaker 4 I did use the power of the check to hit on Cardi B because I figured that's what was keeping her from falling in love with me and responding to me. Because, right, we got a lot in common.

Speaker 4 She likes morning sex,

Speaker 4 but the only thing she likes more is checks. Right.
And so now I've got the check. Perfect.
And so now I think we're going to live happily ever after.

Speaker 4 Okay, my only question to you, PFT, is: were you bummed out that

Speaker 4 Mantis, White Sox, Dave, walked the line? All of you. You're all in the same club.

Speaker 4 Were you bummed out saying that you all got verified at the exact same time, so you couldn't say that it was the XFL randomly verifying you? I didn't even notice that anyone else.

Speaker 4 I thought I got verified at least a few minutes before they did. Right, because that was the plan.
It's like, oh, the XFL must have verified it.

Speaker 4 I don't have a plan. I didn't have a plan because there was no

Speaker 4 action on

Speaker 4 place. Why would I go

Speaker 4 and make a plan and an excuse for something I don't need to? The bottom line is: yeah, there's a blue check there. Nothing changes.
I might give it back. I don't know.
I haven't decided yet.

Speaker 4 I think you're going to wait long enough for us to forget about it and then keep it.

Speaker 4 You're also don't you were also emailed for it. I asked for it.
I openly said that.

Speaker 4 I have nothing.

Speaker 4 I asked for check marks. I need to go out and help the airlines.
Sad.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to say I didn't ask for it. when I did ask for it and pretend that it was randomly given to me.

Speaker 6 Also, my other Fire Festus Jumpsuit January is over forever.

Speaker 4 That's what I mean. It's coming back next year.
It's coming back. Yeah, it's going to come back.
We had to change into our Florida.

Speaker 4 You didn't want to do it. You died this year.
You had stress about it, and Florida was

Speaker 4 impossible. National Championship.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I told you the pocket situation. I wore a jumpsuit that day.
I changed because I didn't want to lose everything that I had. I broke my new iPhone.
Whoop, because of jumpsuit channel.

Speaker 4 Oh, I broke my iPhone last night. Yeah.
At some point in the morning, I woke up this morning and my iPhone was face down on the tile floor. Last night was a movie.
Movies to the bed.

Speaker 4 Last night was a movie. Is there a tiger in your bathroom? No, well, I want to jump back to what Hank advised me to do in New Orleans.

Speaker 4 That probably had something to do with the iPhone falling off the bed. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Jumpsuit January is not dead.

Speaker 4 It's not dead at all. It's not dead at all.

Speaker 4 You know what? You're killing Jumpsuit January right now with your vibes. Bad vibes, bro.
You've got bad vibes. We're in Miami.

Speaker 6 We haven't worn jumpsuits for the last 10 days.

Speaker 4 That's not true. I wore a jumpsuit on Sunday.
On Sunday and Monday.

Speaker 4 I mean, we literally wore a jumpsuit on Sunday. You don't remember Sunday?

Speaker 4 I'm just saying. Kobe tragically passed away, Hank, and you don't remember the day? I do.
I'm just

Speaker 6 been an upsetting week over there.

Speaker 4 With no pockets on the radio on Monday.

Speaker 6 I'm just trying to stay true to what we started.

Speaker 4 Where's your jumpsuit, Hank?

Speaker 6 You guys have

Speaker 4 crushed my spirit to go forward.

Speaker 4 All right. You guys crushed my spirit to go forward.
All right, what's your favorite?

Speaker 6 I take after your lead, and when Big Cat's showing up to like January 7th game in jeans, I told you to give you many individuals.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to be invisible, Hank. You have to Be mentally strong and don't just be a limbing for whatever big cat's doing in his wardrobe.
I'm just saying. He'll be a sheep.
Yeah, sheeple.

Speaker 4 All right, PFT, what's your firefest? My fire fest is. I was actually going to go in on how Twitter went out of their way to verify me and how much I hated it.
It's so annoying.

Speaker 4 It sucks when stuff like that happens and you're not prepared for it, and then everyone calls you a sellout, even though you didn't do anything to sell out. Right.
Which just sucks.

Speaker 4 So I'm getting unfairly attacked, I feel.

Speaker 4 But I guess another fire fest would be more towards, this is geared towards Hank.

Speaker 4 There's some rumors going around that Leroy's been, he's been getting some messages slipped under the door of his doghouse. And Giselle

Speaker 4 was allegedly touring a school, an all-boys high school

Speaker 4 in Nashville, Tennessee. Whoa.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 4 connecting the dots. What should be your fire fest?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm giving you a fire fest.

Speaker 4 I prepared a fire fest for you because I knew that you struggled with your father. Giselle cares about her kids and will take whatever measures to make sure that they get the best.

Speaker 4 The guarantee is Firefest is he has to be the one to break news to you that Tom Brady's going to the Titans.

Speaker 6 Tom should explore his options and do whatever he feels is best for him and his family.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 Text Rabel real quick and see, hey, did you hear this rumor?

Speaker 4 I actually was texting with Rabel today. Oh, Sick Brad.
He told me. Well, no, he texted me and he said, birthdays are for pussies.
You used to not text coaches. I was

Speaker 4 pretty perfect.

Speaker 4 I used to never text coaches. Birthdays are for pussies.
I wanted to reply to Joe Burrow real quick and let him know where we're going tonight. Oh, nice, nice.

Speaker 4 Are we recording? Sellout show.

Speaker 4 My Fire Fest is,

Speaker 4 there's a picture going around of my right breast that makes it look like it might be a C or D cup.

Speaker 4 Solid C.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 if you look closely enough, it was the lighting. and some shadows were at play

Speaker 4 it's not

Speaker 4 it's not what it looks like also my my tit was so fucking like more. You look like I should have been milked.

Speaker 4 I looked like I was in pain because my breasts were so large and like hurt because there was so much milk spurred in them.

Speaker 4 You looked like that meth head guy whose heart just like beats out of his chest. Yeah, but it's just constantly

Speaker 4 constantly just engulfed. It looked like a skinned coconut.
This big white. And the fact that it was so pale didn't do you any favors either.
It was bad. The whole thing is.
It was a bad vision.

Speaker 4 I don't know what you wanted me to say. I was looking at that.
It's actually a good thing. How many beers?

Speaker 4 It's a good thing because it's like, you know, you have success in life and you need to be kept humble. And then your

Speaker 4 very supple, right breast becomes fodder for the entire internet. Kind of puts you back in your place.
Like, hey, you got tits, dude.

Speaker 4 Like, you might be doing well in life, but at the end of the day, you got tits. And tits are usually for women.
Mm-hmm. That's true.
I mean, you got a little treat every time you look in the mirror.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a tough one to live with. It's like, hey, hey, actually,

Speaker 4 can I not be accused of misogyny because I have breasts? I'm part woman. That's exactly how it works.
Right.

Speaker 4 It was also a good move for you to sit so closely to Brandon Walker after that picture comes out because he is, if someone's looking for man tits in a picture, your eyes are going straight to those two puppies.

Speaker 4 Get close to more tits is what I have to do now for a while. Boys are going to hooters tonight.
Yep, yep. It was bad.
It was a bad picture. I'll be the first to admit, very, very bad picture.

Speaker 4 That's what I mean. Bad visuals.
They happen to all of us.

Speaker 4 We were doing a hype video for Greg Kittle, and I looked at some of the pictures of me, and

Speaker 4 whenever I play the Gordo guy, I tie my hair back in a ponytail. I just looked like a woman.
I just honestly looked like a woman in that picture.

Speaker 4 And you looked like a woman, too.

Speaker 4 Now, there we go. The world's number one feminist anti-misogyny podcast.
Love it. Love it.
All right. Last up, before we get to birthday FAQs, the NBA all-star game, huh? Mike Greenberg's dumb rules.

Speaker 4 I don't.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 4 I don't understand. They're trying to do a tribute to Kobe.
Yep. They should just make it first to 824 points.
That's not what it is.

Speaker 4 Instead, it is, all right, I'm going to read this tweet where someone said, you know, it's always interesting when someone says, people, it's not hard.

Speaker 4 0-0 to start quarters one, two, and three, $100,000 on the line each quarter.

Speaker 4 Take those scores, add them up to start the fourth, take the score that's ahead at the time, add 24 to it, first to hit that number, wins the all-star game, just watch and enjoy. That's

Speaker 4 what if a team is up by like 40

Speaker 6 to start the fourth quarter, right?

Speaker 4 Okay, so here's what I think happens. How do I bet the overall? Here's what I think happens, Hank.
If a team is up by 40 to start the fourth quarter,

Speaker 4 let's say the score is 100 to 140. What they would then do is they add 24 points to 40, so now you're at 164, and that means that the first team is going to be a game.

Speaker 4 Honestly, wait, wait, wait, wait. So

Speaker 4 here it is. The first team to get to 164 would win the game.

Speaker 6 Right, but the team that's up 40 is obviously going to get there first.

Speaker 4 Right. So, I mean, it's

Speaker 4 not been playing better. Why are we resetting it after every quarter? Correct.
Because they want to give out $100,000 after every quarter.

Speaker 6 Why don't they just get $300,000 after the third quarter?

Speaker 4 But there's a box score that shows who won the quarter. Listen, I'm not on the side of the NBA here.
You could just give $100,000 to whoever won the quarter. Yes.

Speaker 4 You don't have to set the score back to 0-0. Like, if I turn on the NBA All-Star game and it's four minutes into the second quarter and it's eight to six, and I'm like, what's going on?

Speaker 4 That is going to fuck with you if you're betting the over on it. You're going to have to have like your own abacus in your living room keeping track of what the score of the entire game is.
I agree.

Speaker 4 That's that's mess. I'll tell you this.
Kobe didn't want this. Kobe didn't want this.

Speaker 4 He would have liked maybe eight versus 24. That's what they should have done.
It should have have been Team 8 versus Team 24 or Team Mamba versus Team Mamba Sita.

Speaker 4 There's so many ways to do great things for Kobe's legacy and have this moment. They just decided to make it really, really confusing.
And I guess it's working that we're talking about it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's the classic way to stay relevant baseball, except for basketball. I've got a couple ideas.
Why don't you just have every player, whenever they shoot the ball, they have to say Kobe?

Speaker 4 I like that. When they shoot it in the game.
I like that. Or this is actually an idea that could work.
You know how the NFL has their football? It's named the Duke.

Speaker 4 Name the basketball the Kobe.

Speaker 4 And it's the ultimate ball-dominant move for the most ball-dominant player of all time.

Speaker 4 He'll forever be ball-dominant because he's going to be stamped right on there. Here's one last one I'll throw out there.
How about you have a dunk tank?

Speaker 4 behind one of the hoops and every time that hoop is scored on Smush Parker goes into a bed of lava I like that one too I think that's maybe the other one could be Jason Whitlock so it's like two of the Kobe haters of all time, and they just continually get dunked all game long.

Speaker 4 I would love to see what happens to Jason Whitlock's hair when he goes into a dunk tank. Oh, he would staple that fedora to his head so no one could see.

Speaker 4 It's just nailed in there. Yeah, that would explain some of his takes.

Speaker 4 Either way, obviously, it's going to be a very emotional all-star game, and they should do something for Kobe, but I don't understand this. Like, why this? Just make it first to 224.

Speaker 4 That's perfect, too. Team 8 versus Team 24 makes so much sense.
Whatever.

Speaker 4 just outlaw passing. Outlaw passing.
No assists. Yeah, I like that.
I like that. Or you can only shoot if you're triple teamed.
Yep, I like that too. These are all better ideas.
These are way better.

Speaker 4 I actually do think they should just name the ball the Kobe, though. Yeah, I like that.
Or maybe make the, I don't know what the all-star or the MVP trophy is for the finals MVP.

Speaker 4 That's Bill Russell, so they're probably not going to be the first one. Bill Russell is.
All right. And then Larry O'Brien.

Speaker 4 Who's he? Larry Kobe O'Brien. I don't want to slander Larry O'Brien before I know how important.
Maybe name the ball Kobe on the trophy, and then the stand is the Larry O'Brien stand. Ooh, I like it.

Speaker 4 It's like when they have a stadium, like Darryl K. Royal Stadium, and then Joe Jamail Fields.
Right. Correct.
Got it. Larry O'Brien was an American politician and basketball commissioner.

Speaker 4 He was the Democratic Party's leading electoral strategist for Democrats. Name it the Kobe.
Great job, by the way. Name it the Kobe.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so now the Larry O'Brien trophy is the Kobe Brian Trophy. All right.
birthday FAQs. Can I actually start, though, before you do the FAQ, PFT, are you mad at me about my birthday this year?

Speaker 4 Why am I mad at it? Did you see the fact?

Speaker 4 Did I see the fact? The fact? No.

Speaker 4 Today is the

Speaker 4 6,969th day

Speaker 4 after 2000. Oh, cool.
I probably would have laughed at that three years ago. Oh, damn.
You're mad. You're mad.
I'm very mad. You would have loved to have 69, 69.
I'm very.

Speaker 4 No, because there was no day zero. No, they took away the same thing.
So yeah, so I get 69, 69.

Speaker 4 Bad math, and you really talked yourself into a bear trap on that one.

Speaker 4 Hank, go ahead.

Speaker 6 Quick late-breaking moves, but Greg Olson and the Panthers have decided to part ways.

Speaker 4 Mutually. Okay.
Shout out to G. So he's retiring? So Jason Witten to the Panthers, Greg Olson to the booth.
Greg Olson coming home to Chicago. Okay.
Bring back Mike Martz.

Speaker 6 All right, birthday FAQs. Happy birthday, boys.
Congrats on being as close to 50 as you are to being 20.

Speaker 4 Shut up.

Speaker 4 That was, that's...

Speaker 4 No, but we're farther away from 50 than we were from 21. No, who counts the 20? Mm-hmm.
Call me next year, idiot. Good point.
Also, Big Cat's closer. I'm not yet.
True.

Speaker 6 Happy birthday, Mr. Cat and Mr.
Commenter. Which is appropriate now, considering you're almost old enough to start receiving Social Security.

Speaker 6 I'd like to ask if you'd consider retiring in Miami or Florida, for that matter, after spending some time in the sunshine state.

Speaker 4 No, I hate Florida. I don't hate Florida, but it does turn your body into just like a humidity tent when you step outside.
Arizona is the best Super Bowl by far.

Speaker 4 I've had a good time since it's no, no. I mean, I haven't seen the sun really, but yeah, it's a great Super Bowl.
You went to the beach, Hank. Must be nice.
Yeah, a couple times.

Speaker 4 Hank, would you retire in Florida? Sure. Yeah, I don't have a problem with Florida.
Me and Florida are in good terms. Humid.
Me and Arizona,

Speaker 4 drinking some Mai Tai's. Yeah.

Speaker 6 What's the better deal? Buy two for the price of one or buy one get one free?

Speaker 4 Two for the price of one or buy one?

Speaker 4 Two for the price of one. Two for the price of one because it sounds like it's more.
Because you've got the number two in there and the number one. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 Also, when you do buy one, get one free, if you're getting, let's say, two pairs of like the same shirt or like the same shirt and you're getting two of them, you get the first one.

Speaker 4 Well, first of all, don't buy that shirt. If you're doing a buy one, get one free That's what I'm saying.
So if you buy a shirt and you pay for the shirt and they're like, oh, here's another one.

Speaker 4 That second shirt, even though it's the exact same, feels like a piece of shit. Right.
Like, that's a bad shirt. That's right.
Well, why are you giving me this shirt? Two for the price of one.

Speaker 4 It's just like, oh, they're both on sale. Right, right.

Speaker 6 Happy birthday to birthday, Cat, an old but still kicking PFT.

Speaker 6 Since you are both of legal age to run for president, what would the first thing you would do in office as the president of the United States?

Speaker 4 Probably put a cigar in an intern's vagina. Nice.
Nice. I think that's usually good stuff to do in the Oval Office.
Super Roll Monday is a national holiday. Done.
Also, no more taxes.

Speaker 4 That's going to be a challenge. That's bad.
We'll figure it out later. No more taxes for me.
Yeah. Well, let me finish.

Speaker 4 Here's what you do. You outlaw taxes, but you don't publicize it.
And then only nerds continue to pay. Correct.
And all the bad boys that just stayed on the radar, guess what? You're home free.

Speaker 6 Yes. What is the plan for your soon-to-be midlife crisis?

Speaker 4 I think I already had mine because I started a podcast. I think that's like what you do, right? That's the new Baya Corvette.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've been thinking about it. I don't know.
I'll probably dabble with some HDH at some point in the next few years.

Speaker 4 I'm going to continue to dye my hair, probably even more so.

Speaker 4 Maybe a tattoo. I'm going to start doing some sort of weird fitness trend.
I got this class pass thing, which I've just been abusing and only using the points to do like massages and relaxation stuff.

Speaker 4 But I think I'm probably gonna get, I'm gonna try to get a six-pack at some point. I have a question.
Can you have a midlife crisis if you've already just accepted that you're midlife?

Speaker 4 Like, I don't... I don't really go out.
I don't do any of that stuff. So I don't know if, is that, am I eligible for a midlife crisis? Yes.

Speaker 4 I feel like midlife crisis is when you keep trying to chase it, trying to be the young guy.

Speaker 6 Basically, for the next 15 years, any crisis you can have, it can be a guy.

Speaker 4 He's a midlife crisis, technically. But you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't...

Speaker 4 know. I'm not chasing it.
I don't care. I don't want to be young anymore.
Right now. No, I,

Speaker 4 yeah, I don't want to be young.

Speaker 6 But that could change.

Speaker 4 But, but when you're in the middle of the

Speaker 4 stop going out less than zero, yeah. No, you could, if you start going out more,

Speaker 6 you're already going out zero. So if you start going out once a week, midlife crisis.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, what if you become a club guy? I got it. Got it.
Okay. Think about it this way.
Understand. Understood.
I don't think I'm going to have that happen. We could potentially die.

Speaker 4 That's the point. We could potentially die tomorrow, right? And so that would mean that our midlife crisis already happened when we were 17 years old.

Speaker 4 And so like our midlife crisis is, I want to get a high school degree. Right.
And that's what I did for my midlife crisis and bought a minivan.

Speaker 4 Is that it, Hank?

Speaker 6 After hearing that, Andy, actually, I'll last two.

Speaker 6 Many are calling age 35 the baby back bitch year. Is this year we can expect a certain someone to come on the pod to discuss?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 I will say, if I don't, if if we don't get Kevin Durant on this podcast in our age of 35,

Speaker 4 cancel my birthday next year. Oh, shit.
Yeah. I'll just stay 35 forever.
Yeah, heaven forbid. Kevin, you better not back out of this one.
Stay 35 forever. That's what we call a threat.

Speaker 4 That's a whole win-win right there. Yeah, that's a threat.
I say, if we don't get Kevin Durant on this year, we're not allowed to say his name ever again. Right.
Right.

Speaker 6 All right, last one. Hey, boys, would you guys watch The Bachelor, but instead of people picking their soulmate, it's just Philip Rivers deciding who his favorite kid is?

Speaker 4 Of course. That sounds like the best television program ever.
It's probably going to be the one with the biggest arm. Yes, absolutely.
It's just the best athlete is his favorite.

Speaker 4 Actually, this is how Phil Rivers should decide his next team.

Speaker 4 He should have all his kids wear a t-shirt for anyone who's interested in him and just throw the ball up like it's the fourth quarter and he's down to score.

Speaker 4 And whoever intercepts it, that's the team he goes to. It's like at his wedding when he's throwing the bouquet.

Speaker 4 So he stands, tosses it over his head, and they fight for it right I like that it's perfect I like no he's got to throw it real and run around and stop around and panic okay and then throw it up and then whoever gets it you're going to that team Phil and then he has to put a garter belt on the kid that catches it I hope this isn't it for Phil it's not Phil is addicted to play again what as we've said on this show He is going to be faced with a choice of staying at home with nine kids and having more sex and more kids or going to work and getting a break from those nine kids.

Speaker 4 I think he's going to to go to work. Okay.

Speaker 4 All right. That's our show.
We taped some awesome interviews this week, so we got them coming up. We also have, of course, Monday will be the recap of Super Bowl 54.
Enjoy it, embrace it.

Speaker 4 It is the last game of the year. I don't know how we got here, but we're here and we'll see everyone Monday.
Love you guys.

Speaker 4 Talking away.

Speaker 4 Though I don't know what

Speaker 4 to say, I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 4 Today's another

Speaker 4 day to find you

Speaker 4 shining away.

Speaker 4 Though I've been coming for your love of the case,

Speaker 4 take

Speaker 4 on

Speaker 4 me.

Speaker 4 off.

Speaker 4 Take on me.

Speaker 4 Suddenly,

Speaker 4 let's just say

Speaker 4 I hope you

Speaker 4 have

Speaker 4 good stuff

Speaker 4 a little way.

Speaker 4 So I learned that I feel cake. Say after me.

Speaker 4 It's the better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 4 Take

Speaker 4 on

Speaker 4 me.

Speaker 4 Drink on me.

Speaker 4 Drink on me.

Speaker 4 All the things that you say,

Speaker 4 every little life of

Speaker 4 just to play my worries away.

Speaker 4 You are the things I've got to remember.

Speaker 4 And you're shy and away.

Speaker 4 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 4 Take on me.

Speaker 4 Take

Speaker 4 It's just trash, right?