Lacrosse Superstar Paul Rabil, Kentucky Ghost Callers, And Our New Intern Jill

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a packed episode for you. We have Paul Rabel from the Premier Lacrosse League.
He taught us all about La Crosse. He is, some may say, the GOAT of lacrosse.

Speaker 1 Very, very...

Speaker 1 Fun time, interesting interview with him. He's a really good guy.
We gave him some pretty surefire winners for the PLL. Yeah, he just had to goose the ratings a little bit.

Speaker 1 He is what will make me watch lacrosse because I'm like, damn, that was a really likable guy. He's not really like the classic lax bro, you know, Chatter Brad.
Even that wouldn't be bad.

Speaker 1 But Paul Rabel, really good guy. We also hosted Kentucky Sports Radio, one of our favorite days of the year.
We gave you some clips from some unbelievable callers.

Speaker 1 We also also have the debut of our 69-year-old

Speaker 1 intern, Jilly Football, and license to Jill. And then on top of all that, we have Firefest and NBA Finals and Drake and owners pushing players and a packed Friday.
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Today is Friday, June 7th.

Speaker 1 And if you're wondering what happened in game five of the Stanley Cup final, we are live watching the third period for you. So we will live react as the episode goes along.

Speaker 1 We have an awesome, awesome Friday show for you. Paul Rabel coming up.
Kentucky Sports Radio Ghost Stories. Jillie Football.
All of it's coming. We're watching the game.

Speaker 1 Hank is reacting as we go. They're on a play.

Speaker 1 We're going to lose 1-0. We got 15.45 left in the third.
A minute left on the power power play for the B-words. So we won't talk about it unless there's a goal or unless something big happens.

Speaker 1 But we're going to start with the NBA Finals. We're going to start with game three.
We have a lot of storylines that came out of it, but I want to talk about the actual game first.

Speaker 1 We're actually NBA fans. We're not this league fans.
I'm not a fan. I'm a journalist.
Right. Speak for yourself.
I'm objective. Okay, so.

Speaker 1 Absolute ass-kicking by the Raptors. Spoilerman gets paid.
Sportman gets paid.

Speaker 1 Steph Curry with an all-time performance, 47 points eight rebounds he had the most rebounds of the warriors which is incredible he basically tried to will the warriors to a victory the warriors were putting out like some hilarious lineups because no clay thompson no kevin durant and who's the guy that looked like detlev shrimp got the checks

Speaker 1 drebco yeah he's got no fucking armpit hair no game yeah no game drebco no yeah the the the warriors lineup was like every now and then well steph was on fire but every now and then one of their guys would make a shot but for the majority of the game it was like open shots because everyone was guarding Steph and then some bum missing.

Speaker 1 What sucks is that when it's a a Warriors game, I can't turn the game off early if it's a blowout because you never know. They couldn't.
You absolutely never know. And

Speaker 1 it feels the same story every time the Raptors take a game from, or even when the Rockets were beating them. But you can't turn off the game even in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 There were like two minutes left. They were down by 10 points, down by 12 points.

Speaker 1 And it's like, shit, I really need to let Leroy out and have him take a massive dump, but I can't because Steph Curry might just catch fire again and ruin my night for me. Right.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are also complaining about the late start time to the game. I like the late start time for two reasons.
One, it separates the men from the boys. True.

Speaker 1 As a real fan, it's like I have to work for it. I know that lesser fans don't stay up for it.

Speaker 1 Number two, it gives me way more time to lock in my bet. So I think that the NBA actually really enjoys these late start times because it gives it a lot of money.
Adam Silver loves these

Speaker 1 people

Speaker 1 a much larger window with which to lock in their bet. betting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll tune in.

Speaker 1 So the other parts of the game, Clay Thompson, obviously being out, hurts the Warriors.

Speaker 1 Not only, obviously, on offense, that's very apparent, but defensively, he's like, I mean, he changes everything. The Raptors got whatever they wanted.
They shot like 47 from three.

Speaker 1 They were on fire all night. And then I want to give a special shout out to my guy, Boogie Cousins, because what he did in game two was phenomenal.
And like any fat guy, he was like, I got mine.

Speaker 1 I'm not coming back for game three because he no-showed game three, and I like it because you know that he was like a little extra sore from game two. He was like, I've done my part.

Speaker 1 I don't, you guys don't need me like to do this every game, right?

Speaker 1 And that is exactly they needed it on game three, and he just didn't show up for it. Yeah, he would do the thing where he would occasionally to look like you're hustling.

Speaker 1 If you're playing pickup basketball and you're an out-of-shape guy, just bring the ball up court once or twice and then pass it immediately.

Speaker 1 But that play, as far as everybody else is concerned, you were the point guard. My move to always get a laugh if I bring the ball up is I just call it fake play.

Speaker 1 I'm like, Indiana, Indiana, everyone get it set up. And then you just pretend like you throw the ball and then go set a pick, and everyone's like, ha ha.

Speaker 1 You say triangle, just set up the triangle for me.

Speaker 1 All right, so

Speaker 1 I actually think the Warriors are totally fine. I mean, that's not like a hot take, but Clay's going to be back.
I think they

Speaker 1 sitting Clay, they were like, look, we're the Warriors. Like, we'll be fine.
Let's get him 100% healthy or or close to 100%. He's not going to be 100% for the rest of the series.

Speaker 1 But they know that they can win on the road. They know they can win down.

Speaker 1 I don't think Kevin Durant's going to play this series. We've said that on Wednesday.
Did you see him after the game in the tunnel?

Speaker 1 Achilles. He was doing the good job, good effort.
He also was icing. He was the good job, good effort kid for the Warriors.
He was icing as Achilles. Well, it's a lower cap strain.

Speaker 1 He also has been ruled out for game four already. Yeah.
So I like how we're getting even further away. Like, we're going to rule him out for game five the minute game four ends.

Speaker 1 But I still think they're fine because of the Warriors.

Speaker 1 And I know people don't like the Warriors or sick of the Warriors, but I actually love this series because they're being tested to the absolute limit.

Speaker 1 And it's like they will really earn this if they win this series. Yeah, and then there was obviously the story of the partial owner of the Warriors.
Mark Stevens.

Speaker 1 Mark Stevens giving a little shove to Kyle Lowry as he dove into the sands.

Speaker 1 I want to start with the partial owner part because I don't know if you've noticed what the media has been doing and the Warriors have been doing and the NBA.

Speaker 1 He started as an owner.

Speaker 1 Now he went to owner to partial owner. Then he was a minority owner.
Then he was an investor. Well, he's definitely white.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, no, minority stake. Yes.
And then he was an investor. And then, like, by the start of game four, he's going to be like some dude who just gave us a lot of money once.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he bought a lot of t-shirts. Yeah.
We just decided to give him a little stake. They're distancing themselves so far from this guy.

Speaker 1 Never heard of him. He's going to have to sell his stock or his investment in the Warriors.
Poor Mark Stevens,

Speaker 1 it's gone up like four and a half times, so he's going to make a shitload of money from it. You think they can offer that to KD to stick around?

Speaker 1 Or LeBron to come. Or LeBron to come.
But let me just say this. But then he can't call himself an owner.
This is almost like an - you're right, that's true. That's problematic.

Speaker 1 Almost an epidemic going on. Like, everyone's talking about how many owners are pushing players in the stands in the NBA.
This is the type of thing that never happens in the NBL down in Australia.

Speaker 1 Not in New Zealand. We've never pushed.
We've never gone to a game.

Speaker 1 Listen, it never happens down there.

Speaker 1 We promise to never even go to a game. So that's how safe you are.

Speaker 1 A lot of people are talking about players that are going to ditch the NBA and go play overseas because they're sick of getting assaulted by the owners.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there's like it's not complicated because you should never ever touch a player. That's like point blank end of story.
Never touch a player.

Speaker 1 The complicated part to me slightly is it was very clearly like he was blacked out and almost like his fan his fandom came over him so you're sitting on the couch you're throwing your remote at the tv he just happened to be sitting right next to kyle lowry when he went in his lap and he shoved him listen and not excusing it but i also like understand how someone can black out in the moment and be like Fuck this guy.

Speaker 1 We're getting our ass kicked. You know what? This is a Silicon Valley guy.
He's exposed to all the finest. Mark Jackson said he's from the suburbs.

Speaker 1 I'm saying he's exposed to all the finest in 4K 3D technology when it comes to watching these games live.

Speaker 1 He's probably watched games on his couch where it felt like the players were diving into his living room. So he's probably comfortable shoving at them

Speaker 1 and getting away with it because they're not real. It's just the technology that he has access to.
So when he's at a game,

Speaker 1 he can't tell what's in the Matrix and what's real life. No, of course not.
He also...

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 nope. Nope.
Okay. Okay, Hank.
No goal, Hank. Calm down.

Speaker 1 Hank. Hank screaming about a no-goal.
Hank almost hanked himself on that one. 13 minutes left in the game.
It's Paul Pierce now. Left a little hank in there.

Speaker 1 The other part of the Kyle Lowry going into the stands, the woman in the second row, she got lit up. She got jacked up.
Like straight up whiplash, concussion, neck brace.

Speaker 1 But because this fucking little loser, Mark Stevens, who probably has more money to buy and sell us a million times over, gave Kyle Lowry a little push. That's the story.
So I feel bad for her.

Speaker 1 I do too. Because she's not even a first-row guy.
That person.

Speaker 1 She's not rich. She didn't have 2.3 billion.
She probably got like 500 million. That sucks for her.
Sucks. It did look like a hit from NFL Blitz that she took.
And it was like,

Speaker 1 you know what, to her credit, she kind of chewed it. She got hit directly in the thorax, right in the sternum region.

Speaker 1 And she just like sat down calmly and then kind of rubbed her shoulder out a little bit. Marcus Mariota would have been out for the season with that.
Oh, yeah. He would be dead.

Speaker 1 Marcus mariota would have turned into a cloud of dust um so he is now gonna have to probably sell his stake he's banned for a year it's got to be really awkward because i've always wondered like well actually we ourselves are my minority stake owners it is kind of awkward because we know there's guys with bigger swinging dicks who have you know more money than us who who actually invested in the the team and put in the paperwork and all that shit like we haven't that might be a goal by the way it's got to be weird to be that guy who's

Speaker 1 already walking on eggshells a little bit.

Speaker 1 I actually think it might be. Yeah, the parallax effect? Yes.
Yes, it might be.

Speaker 1 To be that guy who's already walking on eggshells because he's rich, but he's not the richest and he doesn't own the team to then fuck the team over like this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's that's that's got to be a weird. I don't know who even owns the lake up or whatever his name is.
Texting him the next morning has got to be fucking weird. That's that's got to be

Speaker 1 it's like your dumb drunk buddy who always fucks up at the party. You really fucked this one up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's just like, hey, man, I'm sorry you know, like I took a shit in your pool and broke your, and broke your jacuzzi. My bad.
And it's like, come on, man. I mean, fair and fair.

Speaker 1 Fair as fair. Drake should be allowed to assault one player in the Warriors.
Okay, so speaking of Drake, let's talk about Drake and his war with the Warriors.

Speaker 1 Are we going to ignore the beehive going on? No, we're getting there. Okay, we're getting there.
All right, good. That's the big story.
We're getting there.

Speaker 1 Drake

Speaker 1 burned Clay Thompson by posting a picture of Clay, like, basically, with a bunch of women that I think he might have had sex with.

Speaker 1 Own. That was an all-time own.
Pretty sick.

Speaker 1 I guess Clay is in a relationship that ended poorly because of his cheating ways.

Speaker 1 But still, Drake basically was like, Clay has a lot of sex. What's funny is, like, Clay could come out with a mixtape right now and absolutely bury Drake, and Drake would not respond.

Speaker 1 Remember about your kid that Pusha T said? Yeah. Why hasn't anyone, why haven't any of the Warriors done that? Just gone.
They were done with Pusha T. Like shoot around and shit.

Speaker 1 They just kept playing that song on repeat. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 This league. I tell you, this league.
All right, that was a no-goal. So, yes, the last thing we need to talk about before we get to Fire Fest of the week: the Bayhive.

Speaker 1 The Bayhive have ruined.

Speaker 1 This actually was the worst game possible for all the richest people in Golden State, you know, the Golden State Warriors Arena, Oracle Arena. All the richest people got got.

Speaker 1 One guy had to sell all his shares and be publicly shamed. And then the wife of one of the owners

Speaker 1 like basically asked Jay-Z if he wanted a drink because I think Jay-Z and Beyonce were their guests but it was the perfect internet clip where Beyonce looked very upset right after and the bayhive attacked and she had to delete her Instagram and she got threatened her life got threatened what have I been telling you guys about even

Speaker 1 the danger of one single hornet or beef I think it's a beehive behive even when the beehive starts to swarm on you I would rather stick my dick in an actual beehive than to provoke

Speaker 1 the bayhive on Instagram. And I think we actually are provoking them right now.
No, no,

Speaker 1 no. They're beehive.
No, that was Hank. That was Hank that was mispronouncing it.
Is it beehive or bayhive? At Henry Lock, Henry Lockwood 1 at Instagram. He was the one that pronounced it.

Speaker 1 Put those bees.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine the terror?

Speaker 1 M. Night Shanalan should make a movie about it.
Like you just go on your Instagram one day and you see like a couple bees buzzing.

Speaker 1 And then you refresh, and now there's 100 bees, and then you refresh again. It's basically.
And there's 10,000 bee comments.

Speaker 1 i had like a small taste of it one time during an award show i think i said something like it was like rihanna too like rihanna greater than beyonce and i got a little taste of like the beehive coming at you they buzzed a little i can't imagine like the public being in front of the finals game terrifying she had

Speaker 1 the whole hive just yeah i delete her instagram and she was i think her life was threatened they should do a sequel another sequel to my girl where instead of getting like swarmed by an actual swarm of bees it's you just get killed by stands you get killed by you get by cyberbullying yeah she said i've never experienced cyberbullying like this.

Speaker 1 No, duh. I can't believe our players go through this.

Speaker 1 That kids go through this. Well,

Speaker 1 kids know not to fuck with Beyonce.

Speaker 1 So I think that's kind of on you. Yeah, that...

Speaker 1 They have made file so fucking funny. Like, how many stories come out of each game?

Speaker 1 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 All right, should we do Firefest Week? Oh, before we get to Firefest of the week.

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Speaker 1 that's okay okay um

Speaker 1 a lot of time left uh

Speaker 1 all right

Speaker 1 good fire fest hank okay anyway my fire festival hank's fire fest is having to talk on the number one sports podcast when you'd rather be watching TV.

Speaker 1 You're the one that said, let's record it during the game.

Speaker 1 Literally, like, you brought that up. That's true.
That's on us. Anyway, my bad, I guess.
It wasn't my idea to put it on.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest of the Week is that I watched a Jonas Brothers documentary, and I actually really liked them.

Speaker 1 Why is that a Firefest? No, that's kind of a Firefest. You have to do some internal reviews.
You go in there and you're like, oh, Jonas Brothers, those guys are losers.

Speaker 1 Like, only teenage girls like them, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 You know, you think they're just a product of the Disney Channel, and it's like, then you watch watch the documentary you realize they were grinding for like three years no one like family had to leave their house and all this shit like oh kind of like when i watched chernobyl and i was like radiation's kind of badass yeah i've chernobyl is kind of every time i go on the train i'm like what if what if like like you just walk outside and you you're fucked yeah it's like you walk into a radiation cloud

Speaker 1 yeah you're done and you know what's really scary is that if it had gone up into the atmosphere the way that some people predicted it was going to the like jet stream would have carried the radiation all over the world yeah it's it's crazy that

Speaker 1 I mean, I know why it's highly rated because it was obviously very well done, but man, that's a fucking bummer of a show.

Speaker 1 Like real bummer. Well, we really

Speaker 1 sucked. Really sucked.
All right, you got any other Fire Fests?

Speaker 1 Fire Fest of the Week? Yeah, yeah, that was my fest. Okay.
Was you like the Jonas Brothers now?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 It was like, you know, it was my girlfriend. I was like, oh, I'm watching the Jonas Brothers documentary.
I was like, oh, Jonas Brothers, those guys are losers.

Speaker 1 And then I, you know, I sat there, watched it, and I was like, oh. Do they have any songs that slap? Which songs go?

Speaker 1 Year 3000.

Speaker 1 How many are there? There's three. So one of them is like the biggest.
Oops. Blues just scored a goal.
Fuck. Blues just scored a goal.
That looks like that might be it. Wow.

Speaker 1 Marshawn is crying into his soul patch. Blues just scored a goal.
Hank.

Speaker 1 That literally happened during your Fire Fest. That's tough.
Your Fire Fest was still open while that happened. Your Fire Fest got Firefest cucked by your actual team.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was... You got to clear the puck.
Yeah, we're watching you. Get the puck out of the zone.

Speaker 1 Maybe a trip.

Speaker 1 Looked like a trip. They're going to have the ref was right there.

Speaker 1 Look like the boys play in the Stanley Cup final. Blues goal, his seventh of the postseason, number 57, David Perron.
Perron, 924.

Speaker 1 That was, thank you. That was Chief Marsh, who's in the building

Speaker 1 doing the in-game announcing for us, the arena announcing. Hank, that's tough.

Speaker 1 That should have been a trip.

Speaker 1 That should have felt like a trip. He slew-footed him.
Oh, whoa.

Speaker 1 That was, who was that? That's Cam Neely. He just fucking rocketed a water bottle.
That was awesome. Oh, man.
It's a good thing he didn't throw it at a player. He would have been suspended for a year.

Speaker 1 Cam Neely, that was Wynam Dynam 69 him, right? Seabass. Yeah.
Yeah. Sea bass.
Kick his ass, Seabass. All right, PFT, what do you got?

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest of the Week. Hank, can you play some patriotic music underneath this? We'll see.
Okay. My Fire Fest of the Week is D-Day.
Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 75 years ago, a bunch of soldiers, the original influencers, got a one-way ticket to an unforgiving, unsupplied beach without proper accommodations or return transportation. Sound familiar?

Speaker 1 It was the original Fire Fest. There were no swimming pigs.

Speaker 1 All they had was the German soldiers that the Rangers

Speaker 1 threw off the cliff. I'm trying to give respect to the military.
Okay, how long is this really? I'm almost done. I'm almost done.

Speaker 1 So next time you hear a quarterback calling in Audible, take a moment to think about the time our military saw their weakness in the opponent's defense and responded by screaming, Omaha, Omaha.

Speaker 1 All right, you can cut the pitcher.

Speaker 1 Okay, so your Fire Fest is D-Day. It was showing respect to the original Fire Fest, which was D-Day.
By saying,

Speaker 1 my great uncle got shot.

Speaker 1 So your Fire Fest is

Speaker 1 your Fire Fest of the Week is D-Day. Yeah, I don't think that that's how.

Speaker 1 You're associating the troops with Firefest? I'm saying that if you think of the... And also, if your personal Fire Fest of the Week is D-Day.

Speaker 1 If you think that so you liked it bad then yeah well d-day was not a fun time it's not a funny thing if you think fire fest was bad but imagine what it was hurt by firefest the whole point of the segment is your personal fire fest to make the trivial moments in life and make light of it no you just had like the most serious moment and tried to make light of it yeah i thought yes you're absolutely right okay because i'm a fire nobody else was going to show respect today oh you could have said something you could have just been like hey let's have a moment of silence Sometimes a man's got to take matters into his own hands.

Speaker 1 All right, My Fire Fest of the week. A moment of silence on a podcast is a great idea.
Yeah, we've done that before. We should do that more often.
We've done that before. We should kill a lot of time.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest of the Week is I went home on, I think, Wednesday, Tuesday night, and my cable didn't work for like 15 minutes. So that was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 Was it raining? No, I had to unplug the box and plug it back in. That's tough.
Do you know when you turn on your TV, you're like, what's going on? And

Speaker 1 that first 30 seconds, you're like, oh, it's probably just slow today. The announcers just speaking in Spanish.
Yeah, and then like a minute and a half later, you're like, uh-oh, something's wrong.

Speaker 1 And that thought pops in your head where you say, what if my cable's just broken?

Speaker 1 And now I have to deal with calling the cable company and scheduling the whole thing and it's not going to be back for days and days and days. It's the scariest thing you can happen.

Speaker 1 But all you have to do usually is just the manual reset. Yeah, no, I did that, but you're fine.
But for a moment,

Speaker 1 oh, your brain goes to a bad, bad place. You are just like, this might be the end.

Speaker 1 Like, i might just call it quits because i might not have cable for a night you know what that's how it's going to happen to our generation that's when we're going to start actually cutting cords is just it's going to coincide when our cable happens to go out and we'll just be like you know what i'd rather not deal with this so i'll just subscribe to online services also there is an element where like the cable person relationship is a very fragile one and now my trust is at an all-time low so i'm like now flinching every time i turn on my tv for at least a week or two that's a little PTSD from the time that I wasn't able to turn on my TV for a minute and a half it's scary time bro you have cable

Speaker 1 oh don't even start

Speaker 1 hank are you a cord cutter no you have cable no no i'm just gonna have cable yeah you have cable god you have to watch the bachelorette True. People who are cord cutters are not sports fans.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to say it right now.

Speaker 1 Because you are buffering and you're watching a minute behind.

Speaker 1 You care more about the money you're saving than

Speaker 1 the actual sports and being up to the... You're not a real sports fan.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 one of my best friends, like, we almost stopped being friends because he cut the cord and I tried to watch a bowl game with him. And it was like...

Speaker 1 That was the main reason I moved out of my party the whole time. Yeah, we got in like the biggest fight ever.
I was like, I can't do this, dude.

Speaker 1 You know what's great, though, about watching sports when there is a 10-second delay? You can talk yourself out of some very bad live bets.

Speaker 1 Because what will happen is you'll be pulling up a live bet line right now and you're trying to lock it in.

Speaker 1 And then you refresh Twitter on your other screen and you see that the exact opposite thing that you want to happen just happened.

Speaker 1 But the problem is, the live bet is 10 seconds ahead of the real time, so you're 20 seconds behind the live bet. So you don't even know where you are.

Speaker 1 Yes, like the live bet is so far in the future, you can't comprehend it. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
Oh, okay. Like a lot of times, it reminds me that

Speaker 1 I'm wrong about most of the things I choose to do

Speaker 1 in my life. I see what you're saying.
You're absolutely correct. It's so far in the future, you can't comprehend it.

Speaker 1 You're like, wait, it's like a total different inning because my stupid cord-cutting ways have made me so far behind all the rest of America.

Speaker 1 Fucking losers. All right,

Speaker 1 let's get to our interviews. Paul Rabel, coming up here.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Paul Rabel.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Paul Rabel.
He is a lacrosse legend. He's also commissioner.

Speaker 1 Owner.

Speaker 1 Creator.

Speaker 5 Yeah, co-founder.

Speaker 1 Co-founder of the premier lacrosse league, which is starting June 1st, NBC Sports. Are you playing as well? I'm playing.

Speaker 5 The Jackie Moon of professional lacrosse.

Speaker 1 So are you, let's start here. Are you the goat for people who don't,

Speaker 1 like, I would say most of our fan base doesn't follow lacrosse? Are you the GOAT?

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 1 Who is the GOAT?

Speaker 5 Well, I would say Gary Gate. You guys familiar with him? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Jim Brown.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jim Brown. Yeah, yeah.
What was that, Hank? Tom Schreiber. Tom Shreber.
No, I'm a Gary Shrewt. Is it going to be like that, Hank? Out of the gate? Tom Schreiber.

Speaker 5 Tom Schreiber plays in our league.

Speaker 1 Oh, is he better than you?

Speaker 1 Hank thinks. Oh,

Speaker 1 wait.

Speaker 5 I thought we were going to be aligned.

Speaker 1 So do you.

Speaker 1 Would some people call you the goat?

Speaker 5 Some have on social. Okay.

Speaker 1 And did you win a national title with John? I did. Okay.
John's. John's hot.
Two, one?

Speaker 5 Two.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Who'd you beat? Virginia and Duke or something? We beat Duke both times.
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 1 We know a lot more lacrosse than you think. All right, so my first question is a very important question because I think everyone is wondering this for a lacrosse goat.

Speaker 1 Have you ever had, like in your deepest, darkest moments, been like, man, I wish I was really good at a real sport? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Pretty regularly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like,

Speaker 1 I could have made bank.

Speaker 5 I mean, Big Head, I was like clawing at you over the last two years to get me on the show. And I'm certain it's because very few people know about professional lacrosse.

Speaker 5 Very few. Yeah, I'm like very empathetic to this situation of like at least being able to sit in here and talk about it.
Good.

Speaker 1 Because that's a big thing. That's all good.
I think what happens with sports that aren't the major for sports is you get a lot of please like my sport people, and that turns other people off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I actually think lacrosse community is a little different. Every time I've tweeted about it, it's been a little more welcoming than like MMA or soccer where people are like, you don't know shit.

Speaker 1 So would you say that overall, that lacrosse is trying to, the fan base is open and welcome to new fans?

Speaker 5 Oh, 100%. I would say widely, our fan base is still in its nascent stage.
There's 2 million participants, 6 million fans. So relative to the core sports that you guys talk about, it's small.

Speaker 5 But I've noticed anytime you guys talk about lacrosse or barstool widely, people just engage.

Speaker 5 So, like, big agencies have put out reports around lacrosse fans, and they follow other sports more than any other.

Speaker 5 And so, there's like really good demos that match with it, is why we built the league to try to capitalize on it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 But, yeah,

Speaker 5 I would say a vast majority of our fans listening to this show, they've all been pinging me since your tweet. And a pinging is a, I just realized I gave a

Speaker 1 cliche. Yeah, I know, that's good.
It's just digging in deeper. I mean, as far as like a content creator, you're right.
You're like,

Speaker 5 they're all like, Paul, don't fuck this up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is a big moment. What's going on?

Speaker 1 You probably are the first and last lacrosse fans will ever have.

Speaker 1 So convince me, why is lacrosse the sport of the future when everybody knows that it's rugby? Well, we actually

Speaker 5 built our model. I know you guys were talking about it two shows ago, trying to figure out the geo-based nature of our teams, and there's no geo attached to the teams who are tour-based.

Speaker 5 So similar to rugby sevens.

Speaker 1 Right, Right, so copycats. What about rugby 15s?

Speaker 5 Yeah, some good entrepreneurs are

Speaker 1 copycats. Yeah, yeah, good point.

Speaker 5 So we were copying that tour-based model because this is the only team sport that has done it. But if you look at UFC, NASCAR, PJ Tour, they're all tour-based.

Speaker 5 And so when you're a smaller sport like La Crosse, we needed to capitalize on the players, on venues, and distribution. And so the reality is we weren't going to roll out a pro league with 20 owners.

Speaker 5 They were building venues and blowing this thing out. So it was only really one way to make a large impact.
So we had to get creative.

Speaker 5 And it's hard, though, because, you know, you guys are like, well, who's the team in Chicago? Who's the team in New York?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 And our thought was...

Speaker 1 Traditional sports, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, our thought was with six teams. If we were to label cities to them, that we would just be really local and we wouldn't be able to capitalize on this national growth that the sports had.

Speaker 5 So by not attaching a city to a team, some fan in San Francisco and New York can just pick their allegiance.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 is it going to be like a weekend? Yes. A weekend-long tournament? Okay, so we were just talking about this the other week.
I was explaining, it's actually very easy to understand.

Speaker 1 This is not easy to understand how the tournaments, how the scoring is. Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 1 So right now you've got a built-in fan base that understands, because we've discussed it so much, how like a tournament, okay, one team finishes first, they get X amount of points.

Speaker 5 Is that how it's working?

Speaker 1 Those points carry over to the next tournament?

Speaker 5 We should, so it's seasonal. We should have looked at points, honestly.

Speaker 5 But what we did was, knowing tour base, so all six teams are going to be at Gillette this weekend, and we're playing two games on Saturday, one on Sunday, all are on NBC, and three teams will be one and oh, three teams will be 0-1, and that's week one.

Speaker 5 Then the following weekend, we're in New York, and then you might have one-on-one teams.

Speaker 1 So you did it the right way, not the rugby way. Good.
No, no.

Speaker 1 That's very complicated. What you just described.

Speaker 1 So you have three teams that win, and then three teams that lose. Right.

Speaker 5 And that's week one. And they're all, so we have 10 regular season games, an all-star break, and then playoffs and championships.
So you have to make your way to the top four on your season record.

Speaker 1 Love it. Okay, see, I'm confused how you can lose but not still win.

Speaker 1 That's going to be an issue for me to get over, but we'll handle that. But there's nothing from stopping an entire community.
Let's say Chicago really does love the chaos. Yeah.
Who are the chaos?

Speaker 5 So chaos lacrosse club. That was the other thing.
We built lacrosse clubs. So we tried to pull from England and the EPL and

Speaker 5 Liga and build clubs because we weren't going to attach to cities.

Speaker 5 And then we formed the teams based on first university. So a lot of our guys have played for similar universities.
You mentioned like Duke and Virginia.

Speaker 5 So, the whip snakes, who I know you guys talked about,

Speaker 1 that's all good.

Speaker 1 Did you decide that name? Well, I was a part of it.

Speaker 1 And what is that discussion with?

Speaker 1 Who brought up whip snakes? How high was that guy when he said it?

Speaker 1 Bro, what if we just did whip snakes?

Speaker 5 So, so we felt like reptiles, like having a reptile involved was important, as all leagues do. Okay.
And a snake in particular kept coming up from like a rattler to

Speaker 5 a copperhead or whatever. There's a bunch.
And so when you talk about lacrosse, and Hank probably knows this,

Speaker 5 is that a lot of shots are considered whip. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He was just saying that the other day. So crank shots.
Yeah, crank shots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable. Were much you know about lacrosse.
Did iguanas ever get on the table there?

Speaker 5 No, never on the table.

Speaker 1 What about Komodo Dragons or something like that?

Speaker 5 No, but I did a science project on Komodo Dragons when I was younger. Go on.

Speaker 1 That would have been a good thing.

Speaker 5 Please have the floor. I built a Komodo Dragon paper-mâché.

Speaker 1 What What about Fire Salamander? It wasn't great. Okay.
Fire Salamander. There should be a Fire Salamander team.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 We're considering doing Pyros for player intros.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I like that.

Speaker 1 Wait, give us the team names, all six.

Speaker 5 Okay, so you have Archers, Atlas, Chrome, Chaos, Whipsnakes, Redwoods.

Speaker 1 Okay, got a problem with the Atlas. Okay.

Speaker 5 Because then, like... That's the team I play for.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, so dumb people like me, when you're like the Atlas is, the Atlas I, how do I pluralize?

Speaker 5 Well, I think we can make it official on this show. We just call it Atla.

Speaker 1 Atlai. Lie.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 And we'll just quote you on it.

Speaker 1 That's Atli Lacrosse.

Speaker 5 And I brought an

Speaker 5 Atlas lacrosse. Okay.
The Atla.

Speaker 1 But we don't know. And I brought you a t-shirt.
An atla. Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so Atlas, Whipsnakes, Chrome, Chaos. Did you do Internet Explorer or anything like that? Firefox would be an awesome name.

Speaker 5 So Chrome was an interesting one because we were looking at the Steelers. Okay.
And so we looked at a lot of other teams. This is crazy.

Speaker 5 I would have loved to have you guys been a part of the process because get your brains on it.

Speaker 1 Next one, tell us.

Speaker 1 We will help you.

Speaker 5 We'll have expansion teams, hopefully. Yes.

Speaker 5 But yeah, so we were looking at other organizations across team sports leagues, and the Steelers kept coming up, but there's so much IP that's already stripped out of the market from college teams and universities to other pro leagues.

Speaker 5 I mean, I would assume the New Zealand Breakers have some type of trademark. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you can't do breakers. Big time.
Yeah. Yeah.
Big time. Yeah.
You can't do that. No, that's alright.
Well, no, you. Whip snakes actually sounds like a New Zealand name.
Whip snakes.

Speaker 1 Wait, so Whipsnakes, Chaos, Atla,

Speaker 5 Archers, Archers, Chrome, Chaos.

Speaker 1 Wait, Chaos is part of it.

Speaker 5 Chaos is a team, yeah.

Speaker 1 In the Premier League.

Speaker 5 Yes, correct.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 5 So, okay. Yeah, so I have a Chaos.

Speaker 1 I like the Chaos. Yeah, yeah.
All right. So does Erica.
So here we go. Erica likes Atlas.
Yeah, so Erica's actually on the board of directors.

Speaker 5 I think I'm going to negotiate a trade over to Chaos for myself.

Speaker 1 Can you do that yourself? Yeah. So can we own one of these teams? That's the most important question.
I think if we own a team, then we'll care. Yeah.
It doesn't even have to be real.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the real question is: can we say that we own a team? Yeah.

Speaker 5 We can figure that out.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I'd like to discuss that.

Speaker 1 Yes. I have no problem with live.
You have to do it on the podcast. We have to do it.

Speaker 5 All negotiations. So I'd like to also put on the table having you guys call a quarter on NBC.

Speaker 1 Live. Okay.
Yeah. For one of the games.

Speaker 1 I can use my immense license.

Speaker 5 It's not ESPN. Okay.
And the distribution for the NBC main broadcast is $114 million.

Speaker 1 We're in. Dollars?

Speaker 5 Homes. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 So you're in. Yes.
Okay. In for calling a game as long as it's

Speaker 1 got to be close. I don't want to travel.

Speaker 1 I don't want to waste energy on lacrosse. Is it a problem? Can we make the game in the barstool offices? Is it a problem for us having money on the game openly as we're calling?

Speaker 1 No, not a problem. Okay, good.
We can make that rule. All right.

Speaker 1 Will there be gambling on it?

Speaker 5 We're working on it. Okay.
So

Speaker 5 it's huge. So part of the problem is professional lacrosse has existed for 18 years, but it hasn't really been professionalized.
And that even accounts for stat keeping.

Speaker 5 So when we approach MGM and a lot of the casinos and then DraftKings and FanDuel, their odds makers are looking at all the data and they're like, well, this ground ball is miscapped.

Speaker 5 This assist is miscapped. So we've got to develop a year's worth of stats before we get one of those partners to come in and gamify it.
Okay. But we will

Speaker 1 be thinking about it.

Speaker 5 All right. So we're 100% in.
So the league doesn't win if we don't have sports settings.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. So I want to veer a little off here from the league right now.
I want to do a little bit about your career in lacrosse so that people are familiar. So you,

Speaker 1 when did you start playing lacrosse?

Speaker 5 When I was 12.

Speaker 1 And did you play other sports? Yes. Okay, what was your best second sport?

Speaker 5 I actually sucked at lacrosse for most of the early years. I hated it and I wanted to quit.

Speaker 5 And my mom would drive me to practice. It was back when you would practice once a week and play on a weekend.
I didn't play club sports.

Speaker 5 So I played basketball and soccer and were better at those, I thought. This was pre-MLS, so I didn't really have much to look up to for MLS.

Speaker 5 and then I figured out pretty quickly I wasn't going to play in the NBA.

Speaker 5 And then when I was in ninth grade, I just started, like things started clicking on the field and lacrosse, so I just dropped everything else.

Speaker 1 Right. Okay, so you play, you start getting good at ninth grade, you go to college.

Speaker 1 Now, when you are in college and you're dominating and you're winning national titles, what is like the conversation? I'm always curious about this.

Speaker 1 What's the conversation with all the guys on the team about like, can we continue our career? Where does this go? Or do we just go get a job like everyone else?

Speaker 5 It's usually go get a job like everyone else. Okay.

Speaker 5 There was a league that we, it's called MLL. So we actually tried to buy the MLL with our capital partners.
And so Turning Group's an investor.

Speaker 5 You guys know Pete, and then Erica's an advisor. Or you go with Pete.

Speaker 1 Petey. I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 5 I don't. Okay.
But it's a good call.

Speaker 1 Yeah, do not get Pete.

Speaker 5 Can we cut that part out of the show?

Speaker 1 So it used to be, there used to be a different league.

Speaker 5 We tried to buy them. They said.

Speaker 1 You played in it for a long time.

Speaker 5 Yes. I played in it for 10 years.
But to your question, when I graduated from Hopkins, I took a job in real estate because my rookie wage in that league was $6,000. Wow.
I lived in my parents' house.

Speaker 5 I had a Facebook page. How many games do I live in my parents' house?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, how many games

Speaker 1 were you getting paid $6,000 for?

Speaker 5 Oh, for the season.

Speaker 1 So how many games is in a season?

Speaker 5 Then it was 12 games in a season.

Speaker 1 And what did you max out at? What was your best salary playing lacrosse professional?

Speaker 5 The maximum salary last year was $16,000. Jesus.

Speaker 1 Okay, not a lot of people. Okay, so we're still, you are really like building something from the ground up here.

Speaker 5 So I was in real estate, and then I got my first endorsement back in 2009 with Under Armour and then Red Bull, and I was building like a social media profile.

Speaker 5 And so I was connecting with a lacrosse audience because none of it was ever on television outside of the College Final Four, which you guys saw. Yep.

Speaker 5 And then I left my job in real estate as I looked at that. It was like basically 20 grand combined in sponsorship revenue.
So I got got

Speaker 5 a place in Baltimore, split it with three buddies, and then I just started trying to figure out pro lacrosse.

Speaker 1 Okay. And Belichick is, is he a mentor of yours or just a friend? Or how does that work?

Speaker 5 He grew up playing lacrosse in Annapolis, and

Speaker 5 he

Speaker 5 used to come to Hopkins practices. And at one point, he actually guest coached, which was pretty fucking cool.
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 So, and you know, because you'll see people come to practices in all leagues.

Speaker 1 How do you cheat in lacrosse? How did he try to do that?

Speaker 5 How did he try to cheat? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You can't deflate the balls in lacrosse.
No, no. That's why I got out.

Speaker 5 We're both Skins fans, though.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. Yeah, in theory.
Not really a Dan Snyder fan.

Speaker 5 Not a huge Snyder fan? No, but I like the team.

Speaker 1 Once they get good again, I'll be.

Speaker 5 I love the Gibbs era.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Gibbs era was.
Did you ever go to RFK? Of course. See the stadium, the stands bouncing?

Speaker 5 Dude, Art Monk, Gary Clark. Yeah.
Those guys. Mark Rippen, Ernest Biner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Rippin back in 91. Yeah, we can talk about Skins all day back if we were good.
A A fun team to root for. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 1 wait, so Belichick came down, he coached the game.

Speaker 5 So he comes to a practice, and then we go to the locker room, and we thought he was going to be like, hey, guys, keep up the good work.

Speaker 5 And he looked at us and he goes, you guys are fucking Division I athletes, right?

Speaker 1 And we were like, yeah.

Speaker 5 And he was like, then pass and catch the fucking ball.

Speaker 5 He was like, Jesus Christ, I've been playing this game half of my life at least, and I haven't touched a stick in 20 years and I can catch and throw better than you guys. Damn.

Speaker 1 And I remember we were like,

Speaker 1 all right, that's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we were kind of pumped because we just got a pep talk from Bill Belichick. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And then when I graduated,

Speaker 5 we just stayed in touch.

Speaker 5 At one point, I considered trying to do what Chris Hogan did. Yeah.
You guys know Chris Hogan?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he played a lacrosse. That was one of my questions.
How much does a guy like Chris Hogan help lacrosse? Oh, in a huge way. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So he's a couple years younger than me, and he basically did what I wanted to do or considered doing and and probably wouldn't have been able to do it because he stuck it out.

Speaker 5 But yeah, it's good because it shows the caliber of athlete that our sport has.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 5 We have a guy like Miles Jones who consistently gets offers to come out to OTAs from NFL teams. Tim Semish, who played three years in the NFL, he tried out at our training camp last week.

Speaker 5 So there's a lot of athletes. Patrick Kearney grew up playing lacrosse.
He loves it.

Speaker 1 Tom Robinson. Yeah.
Another great stud. Hanks just read off his phone.
Got his phone out. Yeah.
All right, so

Speaker 5 we were talking about it before the show.

Speaker 1 Was it hard to stay in elite shape?

Speaker 1 You do have a day job. Most of these guys in the league have day jobs.
How often do you practice when you're with Major League Lacrosse?

Speaker 5 Yeah, you practice once or twice a week, so you're pretty much on your own.

Speaker 5 But honestly, when you look at even the NFL, they've limited hitting so much that

Speaker 5 getting in shape is primarily off-season, preseason, and then you just kind of stay in shape.

Speaker 5 Or, you know, when you go into practices, you're watching film and doing walkthroughs, maybe some skeleton work, but the actual, you know, the actual hitting and team practices, I mean, the NBA just does walkthroughs, baseball just does batting practice.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 I think it's the allure of it, though. I mean, you've got to be together.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 For the fans to buy in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, all right, so you, you're in the league.

Speaker 1 It's obviously not paying like huge bucks like every other league. At what point were you like, you know what? I want to start my own league.

Speaker 5 Like, when did that kind of switch, the light bulb switch on so that conversation uh started in 20 probably 16 but it was primarily around like hey maybe we should buy a team let's look at what an ownership position would look like in the ml and then the more we looked at that we realized that you're pretty pretty handcuffed in that regard for a number of reasons so then we switched over to potentially purchasing the league and my brother who had spent most of his time in san francisco as an entrepreneur he had just coincidentally left his latest job.

Speaker 5 So we put our heads together and we're like, let's give this thing a run. But you never know you're going to do it until you actually raise the capital.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 So it's all conceptual and conversations. And then

Speaker 5 end of 2017, it became real. And then we started having conversations with players under NDA and it became like a pretty groundswell moment.
And then the rest of the community remained quiet about it.

Speaker 5 Whereas like it was like the... the worst kept secret in lacrosse for all of 2018, but we were all still playing in MLL at that time.

Speaker 5 And I think a lot of the the ownership groups in MLL that knew when we walked away from, or they walked away from a deal opportunity in 2017, that we were going to try to build one, but they were just like, good luck.

Speaker 1 It's really hard. Right.
That's a power move, though, to start your own league and immediately try to purchase your former league. Yeah.
Like right off the bat. That's a flex.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 Were they like a little bit insulted that you immediately said that like we want to take over your league?

Speaker 5 Yeah, they were. And I understand why, because we're like a couple of players.
My brother didn't play, but he's still 35 years old.

Speaker 5 And we walk into a room with guys who have been trying to figure it out for 18 years. So we were really sensitive around that.

Speaker 5 And we had great investors that we disclosed after we announced, too. So it wasn't like, hey, Mike and I got this thing figured out.
Get out of the way.

Speaker 1 Thanks.

Speaker 5 But I'm sure

Speaker 5 there were some of them that probably interpreted it that way.

Speaker 5 But the reality is a non-competitive market would make it a lot easier than even us playing this weekend and MLL having games because they're still around.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 Even though we have 160 players.

Speaker 1 So this is crazy. So this has been basically a three-year process leading up to, I think we're going to run this next week.
So where's next week's New York? New York's Red Bull Arena. Great.

Speaker 1 So if you're listening to this right now, they're going to have the Red Bull Arena for the weekend. You can come out.
You can boo Paul Rabel if he doesn't score for the chaos. No, the Atlas.

Speaker 1 The Atlas.

Speaker 5 But I might be on Chaos. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 We might get a trade back.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, that's crazy. I mean, it's hats off to you, man, because

Speaker 1 a big risk that you took. And this is all kind of leading up to this moment where everything is coming out.
And it's like, this is the new league. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It is very risky, but when you get all of the best players to come and then you have investors that back you, just operating this thing is really fucking hard.

Speaker 5 Because they're so, I mean, you're, you're running a media business, you're running a sponsorship business, you're running a ticket business, a merchandise business, and a youth business all at once.

Speaker 5 So we have now 35 full-time employees, but 50 people working in the org. And it's just like every day is a grind.

Speaker 5 So, I mean, we're launching this weekend in Boston, and we'll be in New York, like you said, but and we have you know great capital behind us, um,

Speaker 5 you know, and but it's just you know, it's it's it.

Speaker 1 So, what's what's the biggest metric that you guys are going to be watching to know?

Speaker 1 Because we've seen with you know, whether it's the AAF or other leagues that have started recently, it's like, okay, there are certain things that are more important to them than others in terms of like long-term viability for the league.

Speaker 1 So, are you going to be paying closer attention to ticket sales, ratings, merch sales,

Speaker 1 Twitter, whether or not me and Big Cat tweet about it? Should have bought us as influencers

Speaker 1 easily. We will easily be sellouts for that.
Was that Hank? Yeah. I didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hank does have the keys to the part of my take account. Oh, jeez.
If you see many lacrosse tweets, it's probably

Speaker 1 which one of those things are most important to you as you're like... kind of taking the temperature of the league and seeing how healthy it is.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so AAF, as you guys probably know, were like underground building a technology business for sports betting.

Speaker 5 And they got out of the gates earlier than they would have liked because of the XFL. So they wanted to beat them to the punch for

Speaker 5 off-season football.

Speaker 5 And that was risky by them, but they were building a gambling business. We're building a sports league that's, you know,

Speaker 5 that's generating kind of enterprise value around revenue from sponsorship and tickets. But we measure our success by media.

Speaker 5 So viewership across NBC, engagement across our social, what we're doing across digital, how we're activating through our players.

Speaker 5 So single entity is what the tour-based model is, but it also gets us as close to possible as like the UFC, which we follow them over the last 15 years.

Speaker 5 And they built it in a linear decade too, before social came out. But they got behind their players and they told their stories.
So it's definitely, and our investors know this.

Speaker 5 I mean, it's a 10-year build to try and get there. And I think one of our biggest obstacles

Speaker 5 isn't tied to revenue.

Speaker 5 It's kind of appeal for lacrosse, which has put itself in the gutter for a number of reasons over the last decade or so.

Speaker 1 There's just stereotypes. The names, yeah, the stereotypes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the Chad and Brads.

Speaker 5 Totally. It's tough to shake.

Speaker 1 Or you could just totally turn into the skid and just rename everybody on each team and call them all like Brantleys and make it a safe space for like white dudes.

Speaker 1 We talked about

Speaker 5 what golf does, right? I mean, they've like basically embraced being in that space. Right.

Speaker 5 Sans Tiger Woods.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 5 And Brooks Kepka's interview was awesome.

Speaker 5 Don't pander to us.

Speaker 5 Well, kind of pandering to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess that's true. But we did the interview.
Yeah, you did the interview.

Speaker 1 Don't pander to us.

Speaker 1 But I mean, it is, it's an easy...

Speaker 5 It would have been easier, but what we're trying to do is basically unchain our athletes because they've been groomed almost like college coaches are in all sports to give this political interview after games to tell how great their opponents are to be buttoned up and wear a polo shirt and like all this other shit that isn't pro sports.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So by getting them mic'd up, getting cameras in their face, encouraging them to talk shit about their opponents, like that's what the UFC is doing.
That's huge. And that's what we're doing.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Show some personalities.

Speaker 1 One free idea. So we actually come in with the dumbest ideas that might actually work.

Speaker 1 If you just release like a hypothetical lineup from one of your teams and they're all like Preston Brantley, the fourth, and having the same names. That goes viral.

Speaker 1 You get the engagement, and you're like, actually, those aren't the real names. Here's the real rosters.

Speaker 5 That would have been so good.

Speaker 1 You can still do that. Yeah.
You should.

Speaker 5 We could do that for all-star.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And have it be like each team be like, Duke, Virginia, Duke, Virginia.
Virginia. Johns Hopkins.
Johns Hopkins. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 Well, what do you? I heard you guys talking about the rules

Speaker 1 two episodes ago. Yeah, so that's a big question I had for you: is like, what is the basic

Speaker 5 understanding of like lacrosse and how it's played that the general pop populace doesn't understand that you're trying to break through well it's complicated it's a lot like hockey in like these random two-line calls and offsides and it's tough to track the ball or the puck during a broadcast so we looked at innovation on the broadcast and then we looked at basically creating this like

Speaker 5 lacrosse for dummies essentially. Right.
So you have two goals, you have a ball, you know as a viewer that one team's got to put the ball in the net more times.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're really doing the dummy thing. Yeah.
Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 5 Well, that's where we started. And then we were like, okay, why is a hole different than a cross-check, different than a cross-hole, different than a trip?

Speaker 5 So we were like, let's just call it illegal body checks.

Speaker 5 Why previously, I DM'd you this. Why previously do fights take place and there are ejections, but there's fights in the NHL and the NOL? Like, let's allow fighting.

Speaker 1 So there's fighting. There's fighting.
Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 You should have started. A legal interview with that.
There's fighting.

Speaker 1 Real across, but with fighting.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 there's fighting.

Speaker 1 Do you think people test you?

Speaker 5 It's mechanical, though. I'll say equipment can't come off.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That's fair. Yeah, that's good.
You think you're going to get tested?

Speaker 5 Probably, but we have some tough guys.

Speaker 1 Are you ready to fight?

Speaker 5 I fought in the indoor game that I played professionally for a little bit, and it was probably like 50-50. Okay, because he's a tough guy.

Speaker 1 You hung in there. You got to fight

Speaker 1 week one to get... Out there.

Speaker 1 Like, you know that, right?

Speaker 1 For the health of the league, you have to fight. Yeah, it's probably a good idea.
Okay, yeah. All right.
I also wrote down for a dumb idea. Have you ever had like a dick pic leaked? I haven't.

Speaker 1 Okay, you should do that. But it's like people will be like, Paul Rabel, who? Oh, good idea.
The dick guy. Yeah, the dick guy.

Speaker 1 Every league has to have a dick guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Draymond Green kind of got through it. Exactly.
Several in football.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but the problem is I'm also the co-founder, so it could go south pretty easily.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's good. That's even more publicity.
Yeah. And co-founder and player.

Speaker 1 And people are like, player and co-founder? What the hell?

Speaker 1 Dick gets people talking. So that's a fact.

Speaker 5 So we have a shot clock. The college game's a mess.
There's 80 seconds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 5 It's like, why even have a shot clock? Yes.

Speaker 1 It's wild. I didn't even know there was.
Is that a new rule? Yes. And it's fast.
How new is it? A year. Okay, because I knew that.
When I turned it on Monday, Memorial Day, I was like, what?

Speaker 1 There's a shot clock?

Speaker 1 So you guys have a shot clock?

Speaker 5 You have a shot clock. It's 52 seconds.

Speaker 1 That's random. Yeah.
But I like that.

Speaker 5 Yeah. That's what we went for.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Through the old 52 clock.

Speaker 1 Completely

Speaker 5 non-data-driven. Just throw out a shot clock number.

Speaker 1 Now, what counts as a shot, though? Because do you have to hit

Speaker 5 on net or you hit the goalie? Those are probably the craziest players in the game. These guys stand in with just a simple chest protector.

Speaker 1 And sweatpants.

Speaker 1 We love that they wear sweatpants. Yeah, some of them.
That's a cool thing. You like that?

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's relatable. Let's mandate it.

Speaker 1 What am I wearing right now? Call them bloggers. Bloggers have to wear sweatpants.
Yeah, calm bloggers and just have them be in sweatpants in the goal.

Speaker 1 I've got two rules here. One, it's kind of like the puck track, but just make sure that the balls are neon yellow.

Speaker 5 That's exactly what we're doing.

Speaker 1 Boom! Okay, look.

Speaker 5 You took it right from tennis.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, you actually took it from PFT.
Yeah, you took it from me. What color

Speaker 1 was the idea? What color do you think tennis balls are? Yellow.

Speaker 1 Okay, there you go. Finally, we saw got all the right answers.

Speaker 1 Also, I don't know if there's anything.

Speaker 5 You had to figure out that Pantone. It was damn near impossible.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Ooh, you got to get Ravel to tweet it.
Uh-huh. The Pantone.
The Pantone. That will be big.
I'm telling you, that will be big.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if it's possible to do with the live games, but I know you can with replays, so maybe look at the lives.

Speaker 1 Make it like a video game where the player that has the ball has a little circle around them as they're running, like on the ground. You know how in Madden, when the running back has the ball.

Speaker 5 Yeah, NHL did that during the all-star game. Do you like it?

Speaker 1 I didn't see that. Yeah, but all I know is that when I've watched lacrosse on TV,

Speaker 1 it's very tough to tell who has the ball because you can't see it when it's in the twig or whatever. What do you call it? The berry.

Speaker 5 They call it the cross, but

Speaker 1 the cross? Yeah. What's the pouch called?

Speaker 5 A netting.

Speaker 1 Netting. Or a pocket.
The pocket.

Speaker 5 I don't know why I said netting. Every lacrosse player listening is going to be like, what the fuck is he looking at?

Speaker 1 It's like a swimsuit ball.

Speaker 5 When I first signed with Red Bull a while ago,

Speaker 5 they weren't in Team Sports much. And once we did the deal, they were like, okay, give your helmet to us so we can paint it.

Speaker 5 And I was like, well, you can't because we're a team and I have to wear my team logos.

Speaker 1 And they were like,

Speaker 5 that might be a deal breaker, man.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, what's going on?

Speaker 5 They're like, and they had to figure it out. They were just not in team sports much.

Speaker 1 I just thought you could give you like a bunch of things.

Speaker 5 Yeah, like I just run around. Yeah, but so we're actually exploring painting our goalie helmets like hockey.
Nice. We have a two-point arc.
So

Speaker 1 that's my other idea. Just make goals worth more than one point.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so it's 15 yards. Okay.
What about kind of like a three-point arc?

Speaker 1 What about the dive?

Speaker 5 Dive's allowed. So guys can dive in the crease and score.
They go airborne. Crease dive.

Speaker 1 What about, when are you allowed to hit in lacrosse?

Speaker 5 At any moment when the ball is either loose and you're near the ball or someone has the ball and you can hit him as a defender so you can just run up and just like yeah smoke someone with the ball yeah you i mean you can't like take someone's head off can you do that in college or no there they they call it tighter okay we did this thing with uh john brankus down at img who's the sports science guy and uh he did four episodes trying to decode a lot of the science behind lacrosse because a lot of people just don't know so one of the things that we measured was uh amount of force per pound of square inch or per square inch inch of force that a defender gives when he checks a forearm.

Speaker 5 And one of these defenders we have, his name is Tucker Durkin. He cut through four karate boards.

Speaker 1 Tucker Durkin.

Speaker 1 And he went to Virginia?

Speaker 5 He went to Johns Hopkins. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 But this guy looks like Luke Keekly.

Speaker 5 Exactly like Luke Keekly. And anyway, he cut through four karate boards.

Speaker 1 Holy shit.

Speaker 5 And it was pretty intense. Yeah.
I'll show you guys the video actually of at some point what he did to, because we we had a player stand in and just stand like a statue and soak one from Tucker.

Speaker 1 Soak one that was best nice.

Speaker 5 It wasn't good. Yeah, that was a hockey term.

Speaker 1 You have to be a psycho to just to volunteer for that job. Be like, come on, soak me, Tucker.
Soak me, Tucker. Soak me good.

Speaker 1 Is it going to be more of a run and gun league or up and out? Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think

Speaker 5 that's the same thing.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, run and gun. And so what we've done is actually took 10 yards out of the middle of the field so guys can go from one end to the other quicker.
Because it feels just so big.

Speaker 1 Get up and out. Oh.
Yeah, exactly. I like that.
Can I ask one more question? Yeah, sure, Hank. Who's got the best FOGO in the league?

Speaker 1 What is FOGO? The Atlas, for sure.

Speaker 5 What's FOGO? Face-off, get off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hank new.

Speaker 1 Come on, guys. Okay.

Speaker 5 So we have Trevor Baptiste.

Speaker 5 And he's a beast. Okay.
And so

Speaker 5 he was a face-off guy for Team USA.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 5 And I may or may not have had something to do with him being on my team.

Speaker 1 Stacking your team. Nice.
Stack your team. So give us some lacrosse link though.

Speaker 5 I would say you guys probably know it, having listened to your show a bunch more than me, but lettuce. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I'll talk a little bit of technique. You have a cradle.
You have a whip. You have a crankshot.

Speaker 5 You have...

Speaker 1 What's the difference between lettuce and flow?

Speaker 5 They're pretty similar. Okay.

Speaker 1 Just hairstyles. Just like Minnesota hockey hair.
Yeah. That's right.
You can have short hair, but have you know flow. The lettuce, I feel like, it's got to go

Speaker 1 out of the helmet. Are you lettuce? Explaining to Paul? Yeah.
To you. You asked the question.
So Paul has flow, but not lettuce. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I used to have long hair. Okay.
I did everything I could

Speaker 5 to try to get myself and the sport out there when I was younger. I was a sellout.

Speaker 1 Really? Yeah. Like a total lacrosse, like basically.

Speaker 5 No, I didn't go into the vernacular as much, but

Speaker 5 I was building a YouTube channel and posting on social media, and I still post a lot, but I was posting all the time just because I sensed that it, one, it never existed before, like communication from pro to fans.

Speaker 5 And then,

Speaker 5 I mean, a lot of athletes have narcissism in them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 I was indexing there hard. And then I know you guys have a small feud with Dude Perfect.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, you did.

Speaker 5 I did. Dude,

Speaker 5 the GIF that you posted on Twitter was of me hitting that watermelon. That was the dude perfect.

Speaker 5 No, don't delete it.

Speaker 1 No, please delete it. I'm deleting it.

Speaker 1 You liked the dude perfect, guys? I did. Who's your interviewer?

Speaker 5 I did an edit with them.

Speaker 1 It's interviews on it. Who's your favorite? But it got me.
It was Toby, Blow, Tori,

Speaker 1 Big Hat.

Speaker 5 I was leading into it

Speaker 5 because I had 27 million views on that. And that's still the largest video.

Speaker 5 But this is now the largest show.

Speaker 5 Every time we do something new, it seems like after this league,

Speaker 5 it's like the sport had never had a chance to even be on PMT. No, definitely.

Speaker 5 So don't delete that tweet. Okay.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 I love Bro Suite.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 How many Jeeps have you owned?

Speaker 5 Jeeps? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Two. Yeah, yeah.
Of course.

Speaker 5 Is that about standard?

Speaker 1 You get one of those. I mean,

Speaker 5 it's comfortable, it's spacious, and it's cheap.

Speaker 5 I was making $6,000. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, I guess I...
I got a fucked up back. You know, I can't sit in a car.
Is that true?

Speaker 1 Yeah. What did you do?

Speaker 5 L4-L5, L5-S1. Fuck.

Speaker 1 That sucks, man. That's kind of like what I did, but not at all.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you need to capture a new audience, but there's already a pretty big audience of people that have played lacrosse, that have watched lacrosse, that are already fans of the sport.

Speaker 1 But where you draw that line in terms of like pandering to a brand new audience can sometimes alienate people that already know about the sport. They're like, I know what a goal is.

Speaker 1 You don't have to explain it to me. Like, how have you decided where to put that line?

Speaker 5 Yeah, we're a little bit split there, so we're going to figure it out in week one because we have Brendan Burke, who does the Islanders games.

Speaker 5 He's our play-by-play. Paul Burmeister does the Olympics for NBC, and then Ryan Boyle is like our Tony Romo.
He's like all-time lacrosse player.

Speaker 1 Never won a championship?

Speaker 5 He won. Oh.

Speaker 1 Good call. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Just got a Tony Romo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 But they'll probably do some type of education during the broadcast, but a lot of our fans do get pissed about that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because the college commentators do that a little during the Final Four, and I always see tweets going out and be like, hey, we know what just took place.

Speaker 5 We know that the ball went out of bounds and the other team gets it.

Speaker 1 There's also a little bit of fun watching a new sport and figuring out some of the stuff as you're watching.

Speaker 1 Like when you have that aha moment, oh, this is why this guy has the ball right now, or this is why there's a face-off, that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 If you figure out while you're watching it, obviously you need to educate people a little bit about some things.

Speaker 1 Through my experience as a rugby fan, so when it's the World Cup on TV, for me to understand.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or if it's the College Rugby Championship or whatever it is that is on TV for a wide audience, what I don't like is when they say, oh, this is like a jump ball and basketball.

Speaker 1 When they relate it too much to another sport that they assume that are in the world. It just sounds thirsty.
It does sound a little bit thirsty. So if you do it too much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's important to do that a little bit because you do have to, like,

Speaker 1 our knowledge base is based on the major four sports.

Speaker 1 So when people do say little things like that, it does help understand it a little, like offsides and, you know, you just explaining how you can hit at any time. Like, I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 But scrap the John Brankas piece where we're going to. Yeah, yeah.
So

Speaker 5 all that money down the channel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 I have one last question.

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Game on one of the given weekends. New York is the one coming up this weekend as it airs.
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Speaker 1 So my last question is, how much cash do you you have on you right now good question uh probably 17 bucks that's it that's it what about what about brett how much how much cash does he have on him zero

Speaker 1 well there's everything everything on credit i was gonna i was gonna offer a tweet from pft and myself on the first weekend for the right amount of cash 17 not the right amount of cash i'll um i'll go to the atm no no no i'll like a tweet yeah i'll like a tweet for five dollars you'll like a tweet for five dollars like yeah but what if i um Just as good as a retweet.

Speaker 1 Do the new algorithm.

Speaker 5 What if

Speaker 5 we're going to... So we're going to try to line you guys up to call a quarter.

Speaker 1 You guys really want to do that? Yes, that'd be awesome. Yes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that'll be a lot of fun. Yes.

Speaker 1 People will hate us.

Speaker 5 You know who's really going to dislike it? Who?

Speaker 1 ESPN. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He'll be on NBC. No, but everyone's going to hate us.
Everyone's going to hit us. I don't know.

Speaker 5 It doesn't seem like people hate us.

Speaker 1 Because we don't know the rules, though. I'm saying like hardcore lacrosse fans.
Which is great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That will be the part.

Speaker 1 Like, I think a lot of people will tune in and like it, but I think there will be some hardcore lacrosse fans that will be like, fuck these guys, because we will probably make fun of lacrosse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I know, maybe, maybe. I don't know.

Speaker 5 I was walking in here, and and and like Erica was like, you know, the uh sport of the future thing is kind of tongue-in-cheek, and I'm like, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 he's like, Hank left.

Speaker 1 He literally is so bored with this interview, he walked out. The biggest lacrosse fan.
He literally left five minutes ago. He's just not here.

Speaker 1 Way to go, Hank. I'm excited.
I mean, credit to you, man. Like, it's obviously a little tongue-in-cheek, but seriously, credit to you because this is a hell of a risk and putting it all in here.

Speaker 1 I'm all in for more sports. I'm a big believer in more sports is always better.

Speaker 5 And we think that even with this model that we built, which is different and it's tour-based and it's not an established sport or a core sport like the NFL or the NBA, but we think this is a launching pad to then going a city-based model.

Speaker 5 So it's not like we're like, hey, fuck that, cities don't matter. They do in a major way.

Speaker 5 uh but if you don't have the number of participants and viewers already baked in and you don't have the owners so this tour based model allowed us to get gillette red bull arena and not be stuck to these like local small venues it's smart because aaf came out and it's like i don't care about the fucking san antonio right

Speaker 1 it's just hard right like right you think like if you come into new york all of a sudden people are going to be supporting you right it just that that's like generational yeah so is is this league more player friendly you would say yeah our players have equity i like that yep i like that a lot.

Speaker 5 We gave our players increased wages, health care as well, and then equity, yeah.

Speaker 1 Look at you. Great boss.
Very cool. Great boss, and we will tune in.
At some point, we're going to call a game. It's a quarter.
Yes, 100%.

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Speaker 1 Now, we've got some special selections from our time-spent guest hosting Kentucky Sports Radio today, featuring some of the best callers in the state of Kentucky.

Speaker 1 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 We were talking about ghosts. We were taking calls.
We want to talk to the people of Kentucky, the great people of Kentucky. We love this day every year.
Shannon, do we have more calls? We do.

Speaker 1 Let's go to Dee Dee. Hey, Dee Dee.
Edie.

Speaker 5 Oh, sorry, Edie.

Speaker 1 Edie. That's all right.

Speaker 8 What's up, Chris? I got a comment for you. The Cala Perry ladies, I give it up to them.
But no, you haven't heard redneck sassy before.

Speaker 8 So you need to come to the eastern part of the state to hear that.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 sassy at ease. Yeah.
Huh? Redneck Sassy?

Speaker 8 Hell yeah. Oh, sorry.

Speaker 1 No, you can just say H-E-double hockey sticks. Yeah, yeah.
Damn.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 8 Second, I got a ghost story for you. Okay.
My family has owned this hauler for years and years, and there is a cemetery at the beginning.

Speaker 8 When they put the new road in, there's a major battlefield just like a mile up the road. They used that part of that hill during the Civil War.

Speaker 8 There are several unmarked graves and even Indian burial graves up there.

Speaker 8 And when they put the new road in, they moved the cemetery, but not all of the graves correctly and the soldiers.

Speaker 8 So it's, we think for years we've seen soldiers from time to time

Speaker 8 and

Speaker 8 different weird things have happened.

Speaker 8 So when they went to put a plot up on back from the graveyard about a quarter mile maybe to make a house seat, well, it was my grandfather. About a few months later, he got killed in a gunfight.

Speaker 8 So it went to my uncle. Five years later, he was in a gunfight and had a car wreck and he got killed.

Speaker 8 So then it went to his boys.

Speaker 8 Well

Speaker 8 they

Speaker 8 turned out having the worst luck ever. My one cousin caught his wife cheating on him.
It was awful.

Speaker 8 So now, then my mom bought it.

Speaker 8 Well, she had a booming business and

Speaker 8 probably like eight, ten years later, it burned to the ground.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 8 So everyone that's lived up there has, and there's a lady in a white dress that's also been seen on the house seat.

Speaker 8 And strange things do happen in the house, like chairs moving every so often or, you know, just unexplained noises and

Speaker 8 things happening.

Speaker 1 I believe you when you say all this stuff, especially when you toss in the Indian burial ground, that's a real wild card one, because I mean, all you have to do is just look at FedEx Field and the Redskins history of quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of bad, grizzly injuries that can happen on a place like that.

Speaker 1 Now, when it comes to this specific location, if you own property that a graveyard is on, do you actually own the dead bodies too? Is that like a toss, like we're going to throw these in?

Speaker 8 I really don't know the answer to that, but I know that there have been people that have passed away. My grandma has rental properties too at the mouth of the holler.

Speaker 8 And when there have been people that pass away that don't have family or nothing, she'll let them be buried up there,

Speaker 8 you know, just out of respect for them. And,

Speaker 8 you know, the county or whatever usually pays for it or does it. And then, but a lot of the graves, we've had to run a few people off, treasure hunters

Speaker 8 with metal detectors.

Speaker 8 And we try to respect the graveyard. You know, we don't want anybody disturbing it.
We have found

Speaker 8 shells from the Civil War and trees and stuff that we've collected over the years.

Speaker 8 But yeah, we try to

Speaker 8 keep

Speaker 8 trespassers off of it except for people that have family up there because we want it respected.

Speaker 8 Understanding is when they put that new road in, they did not respect the Civil War soldiers that were buried up there. They're supposedly buried in all of them on top of each other in one spot.

Speaker 1 Dang. Edie, I have a couple questions for you.
Quick questions. One, what is a holler?

Speaker 8 A holler, a lot of people call it a hollow,

Speaker 8 but around here it's a holler.

Speaker 8 It is basically a valley in between two

Speaker 8 most people call it mountains that ain't around from around here, but they're actually hills because they aren't tall enough to be mountains. Got it.
And there's usually a creek in it somewhere.

Speaker 1 A creek. Okay, so number two, who owns the holler

Speaker 1 now?

Speaker 8 My granny.

Speaker 1 And my mom and my uncle.

Speaker 8 And how? And me, I guess.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, whoa. You own it? So we're talking to you right now.

Speaker 8 I have a piece of property on it, but I live on I live down in the valley. I'm I'm wouldn't move up to my mama's house for nothing.
So it's a huge house.

Speaker 1 So who right now do you think might be cursed?

Speaker 8 My mom, because not

Speaker 8 about six, eight years or something like that after getting her house built, and but she, which she had financial problems with the house being built, but once they got it built and moved in there,

Speaker 8 it wasn't a few years later and their business burned to the ground.

Speaker 8 You know? Yeah. And plus, and my house also burnt

Speaker 8 like two years before that.

Speaker 1 Sheesh. Right.

Speaker 1 So my last question was, you mentioned the gunfights. Is that like a duel? Are we talking about a duel? What happened with the gunfights?

Speaker 8 Okay, well, my family fought for years with another local family that I won't mention.

Speaker 8 But we are related to Grigson, but I'll just throw that in there.

Speaker 8 But not on the good side either. My side, the outlaw side.

Speaker 8 But my great-grandfather was a sheriff here once. But anyway,

Speaker 8 so the families they fought for years, I can remember bits and pieces of it having to hide at times in the house when the other family called and said they were going to shoot our house up.

Speaker 8 And so my grandfather and this other man were at an Eagles club because

Speaker 8 he was a veteran. And I think the other gentleman was too.
And they pulled out their guns and the guy shot my grandfather and my grandfather shot and killed him.

Speaker 1 Whoa. So this is like

Speaker 1 Hatfield McCoy. You have like a whole thing going with these people.
Do you see, when you see one of the family members, does it fade on site?

Speaker 8 No, not now.

Speaker 8 It's, I mean, that's been, you know, when I was, I'm talking like when I was, I guess in the 80s, you know, early 80s is when all this was going on.

Speaker 8 It started because a bunch of people caught my uncle out by himself.

Speaker 8 like five or six guys and they beat him up. So when you beat one of us up or hurt one of us, the whole family gets involved.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, no, what's the way to stop that? Yeah, how did it end? Do you get together? Was there like a council? Do you do you do parlay like pirates?

Speaker 8 No,

Speaker 8 it just, if you, they would go to each other's house, they'd fight, argue,

Speaker 8 beat each other,

Speaker 8 and it just kept getting worse and worse. You know, my actually my cousin

Speaker 8 that got killed with my uncle, he actually spent time in LaGrange for killing the man's son

Speaker 8 over shooting the man's son over my uh them catching my uncle out by himself.

Speaker 1 So it's basically like a little mini-war that's been going on in the hills of Kentucky. So when you do you keep law enforcement out of this?

Speaker 1 Is this one of the situations where the local sheriff's just like, you know what? She's related to the local sheriff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but is this one of those things where law enforcement's like, hey, they're going to fight and it's best to just stay out of it?

Speaker 8 No, they used to when I was younger, but now, like I said, most my grandpa's gone, my uncle's gone, you know, so they've calmed down over the years and gotten older.

Speaker 8 So, you know, but back in the day, they didn't touch it. They didn't touch us.
My great aunt, which is well known around here,

Speaker 8 she shot two men like an inch from their, you know, what.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 they wouldn't come over there. I mean, my grandfather was the only one that could do anything with her.

Speaker 8 And I'm talking like Marilyn Monroe-looking, beautiful woman who wore daisy dukes and a tank top, like one of them little tiny bikini tops, you know, with a big 45 or 38 pistol in her pants.

Speaker 8 And she blocked everybody coming up and down the hall, and you had to stop. And if she didn't like you, she would either tell you to get lost or she'd shoot you.

Speaker 1 Shoot you in the pee-pee. I would much rather have the tell me to get lost.
Yeah. so how many pee pees did she shoot

Speaker 1 huh how many wee we's did she shoot ding-dong um she was pretty good shoot yeah so

Speaker 8 she missed them within a couple inches just so they know you know

Speaker 8 they walked around with a lamp the one man did walk around with a lamp for the rest of his life

Speaker 1 I was gonna say if it was me

Speaker 8 the whole end of the hall or there's two sides and the whole end was nothing but you know red and blue lights. They was all afraid to talk to her.

Speaker 8 Finally, the sheriff came and he said, No, where'd you shoot him at this time, Nomi? She said, Roll him over and pull down his pants, and you'll find out.

Speaker 8 Sure enough, they rolled him over, and there it was.

Speaker 1 The hoe end of the holler? What is that? The whole end. Hole end.
Hole end or hoe end? That's the one Rick Petino.

Speaker 8 The whole end, the entire end.

Speaker 1 Oh, the entire end.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Both roads.

Speaker 8 This holler is so big, it has two sides to it, and the creek separates the sides.

Speaker 1 Edie, have you ever shot anybody?

Speaker 8 I should probably not answer that, boy.

Speaker 1 Don't, do not.

Speaker 8 No, I have never shot anybody, but I've been taught to shoot since I was about six, seven years old.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, Edie, thank you for the call. That was a fantastic story.
Appreciate it. That made our day.
Yeah, yeah. That was awesome.
All right, let's go to John Short. John Short.
John S.

Speaker 1 What's up, John S.

Speaker 1 Rather much to all great Americans? Thank you. Thanks.
Agreed. 75 years to go back.
Sean Haney and Billy Cunningham.

Speaker 9 That's where I copied that from.

Speaker 1 Say that again. Sorry.

Speaker 9 I copied it from Big Town Sean Hannity. He was off from three to six.
I also cut that from Billy Cunningham.

Speaker 1 Okay. Agreed.
Don't understand what you're saying, but let's keep the bag. Hey, he's a big fan of Sean Hannity.
Oh, Sean Hannity. Got it.
Got it. I would like to retract my agreed.
Yeah. Wow, PFT.

Speaker 1 He is

Speaker 1 P L F T. Yeah, now a MAGA bro.
Somebody has to be

Speaker 1 the lib on the show now that Matt Jones is taking his French vacation of five weeks off a year. Someone has to be a bleeding heart liberal.
So what do you got, John Short?

Speaker 9 Okay, I say what's more important between millionaires and winning championships, winning championships. It's more important than being a millionaire.

Speaker 1 So that's why

Speaker 9 the players are for one and done. We don't need one and done.
Everybody needs to come back and play the four years like it used to be.

Speaker 1 So good point. Yeah, so are you saying,

Speaker 1 going with that line of reasoning, would you say that Coach Cal, now we're talking about John Cow here, is he on the hot seat? No, indeedy. No, indeedy.
No, indeedy.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 But he hasn't won any NBA rings. John Cowell has not won any NBA rings.
I know it.

Speaker 9 And I know he hasn't. And also, I want to get a shout-out, too.
I want to get a shout out to somebody. Get a shout-out to Shelby.

Speaker 1 All right, Shelby. Where's Shelby?

Speaker 1 Where's Shelby at?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Oh, shout out there.

Speaker 1 I should have sworn.

Speaker 1 Did we lose Shelby? If anybody out there has seen Shelby,

Speaker 1 we need to track him down. Is it a dog or a human?

Speaker 1 A human being, yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it a car? No. Talking about the old school? Is it off of Shelby? Okay.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 told me, Shelby.

Speaker 9 I just wanted to give a shout out to you, that's all.

Speaker 1 All right, what does Shelby look like?

Speaker 1 Give us a descriptor so we can try to find Shelby because we don't know where he is. Is it she or he?

Speaker 1 It's a she. Okay.
Shelby, if you're listening to this right now, please call in. There are a bunch of people out there.
Call John Schwartz. They're worried, sick about you.
No, call him to the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, call him to the show. Go get Shelby on the show and just make sure that she's doing okay.

Speaker 1 Tell her John Schwartz is giving her a shout-out because there's nothing worse than giving a shout-out and that person never finding out that they got shouted out.

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Speaker 1 Okay, so we're back segments, and the Bruins have just scored. They made it a 2-1 game.

Speaker 1 That penalty was called, Hank, but obviously they scored right away. Oh, let's go.
Oh, is that an N-1 or no? Bruins goal, his fourth of the postseason, number 74, Jake DeBrusk. DeBrusk goal at 1332.

Speaker 1 Okay, thanks, Jake. That's PMT Sportsman's Jake Marsh, our in-game arena announcer.
Fantastic job. No, it's not an N-1, Hank, but they did call it.
I know you saw that.

Speaker 1 There should be an N-1 in football and in hockey. Well, I mean, whenever there's a penalty like that, the goalie comes out so they can play with an odd man

Speaker 1 while the ref has his hand up. You know what? Uh-oh.
Mike Greenberg's dumb rule for right now off the top of my head. Yeah.

Speaker 1 If a wide receiver catches a touchdown on a pass interference, the extra point should be worth two. Yeah, I like that a lot.
I like that a lot. A lot.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's get to some segments. This is going to be an insane end of the game, and you're going to get to watch it with us.
So you're going to get to relive it.

Speaker 1 If you're a Blues fan, you're going to love this if they win. If you're a Bruins fan, you're going to hate this if they lose.
But it's going to be an electric end to the game here.

Speaker 1 Coast to overtime, it's going to be very mysterious. It's going to be very mysterious.
You'll have to tune into Monday's show to find out who won this game and game six.

Speaker 1 Segments. Thoughts and prayers, L'Avion Bell.
Yeah, so he got $500,000 worth of jewelry stolen by two of his girlfriends. So they teamed up together, kind of an Oceans 2 type deal.

Speaker 1 That's what happened. And

Speaker 1 they waited till he left, and they just ransacked his house, and he knows exactly who it was, I guess. But they got away.
They haven't been caught yet. Right.

Speaker 1 So, and I feel like when you have, if you have two girlfriends, or if you're a woman and you have two boyfriends, eventually they're going to team up and rob you of all your jewelry.

Speaker 1 Well, either that or they're going to go after each other. So they kind of real, I like to think it happened like you see in a lot of movies where they got real mad at each other and started swinging.

Speaker 1 And then they accidentally knocked over a frame picture of Le'Veon. Yeah.
And they both looked at it, looked at each other, and they're like, we shouldn't be fighting. We're on the same team.

Speaker 1 Or they knocked over a frame picture of Le'Veon and it split open and it was just like cash underneath, hid behind the frame. Yeah.
Whoa. Exactly.

Speaker 1 You need to take all this stuff.

Speaker 1 I actually have a theory that if you own $500,000 worth of any product, people should be allowed to steal it if they can get their hands on it. What if you own $500,000 worth of cash?

Speaker 1 No, that's different. Okay.
She said any product. But

Speaker 1 any singular product. Okay.
You should be, like, for example,

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 worth of Howard Snakes. $500,000 worth of cancer medication.
Yeah. That's fucked up.
Nobody needs that much. That's fucked up.
It's Martin Skrelly. That's fucked up.
So, like, with Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 That's one pill he's got. You could steal air monarchs from Russell Wilson.
All $500,000. $500,000 worth.
Or penicillin from Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah.
He's going to need that.

Speaker 1 All right, so we have a respect the biz, and that's about the Stanley Cup finals. Zudano Chara has a broken jaw.

Speaker 1 He can't speak, And he still met with the press and answered questions by writing down his answers. Class act.
That's a

Speaker 1 way to go.

Speaker 1 That might be my sports.

Speaker 1 Sports person of the year?

Speaker 1 Sports.

Speaker 1 Respecter of journalism of the year. Sports player who respects journalism the most of the year.
You win one free ticket to go see Bruce Springsteen along with Pierre McGuire. Yeah,

Speaker 1 a six-pack of Alagash White. Yep, congratulations, John.

Speaker 1 No, that's nice. It's like that book, The Diving Bill and the Butterfly, basically, what he did, where you just blink out your answers in Morse code.

Speaker 1 That's what a real hockey guy would do. It was great.
It was great that he did that.

Speaker 1 Oh, I had we read a headline. This one is

Speaker 1 Mickelson aces Jim Nance's backyard hole.

Speaker 1 That was a headline from the golf duty. That's a good headline.
That's a pretty good headline. Mickelson Aces Jim Nance's Backyard Hole.
Yeah, those two have some sloppy sex. That is the headline.

Speaker 1 Phil Mickelson has sloppy sex. Phil Mickelson strikes me as a guy that spits directly onto his own dick a lot during sex.
He's like, look at this, baby.

Speaker 1 Just like takes it out and like, not on his hand. Just like

Speaker 1 just pulls it out and just goes,

Speaker 1 this is going to be like, lets it go halfway down and sucks it back. Yeah, the Skittles spit.
He does the Skittles spit. He's just like, look at this.

Speaker 1 What was that movie, The Adam Sandler, Big Daddy? Yeah. He's like, I got two ribs removed so I can titty fuck myself.
Check this, babe.

Speaker 1 Spits all over his dick.

Speaker 1 This is like a porn. You know what I'm going to do? I feel like I should...

Speaker 1 It's been a pet passion project of mine that I've had on the back burner for a while that I've not got around to doing. I need to write just fan fiction, just like steamy, erotic.

Speaker 1 Fan fiction just about all sorts of athletes trying to have sex. No, you don't.
I thought you were going to say a skip Stephen A. Yeah, you don't have to do that.
I did write that.

Speaker 1 You don't have to do that. No, I think it would be funny.
I don't know if you have to do that. Like, write a.
Okay, you tell me that you would not jerk off.

Speaker 1 You would not read a novella about Phil Mickelson having sex with Einas Williams. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think we just,

Speaker 1 Phil Mickelson spitting on his dick jokes, I think we just reached the capacity. Okay, not Phil Mickelson then.

Speaker 1 Aaron Hernandez.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say Colin Montgomery having sex with

Speaker 1 Mia Ham. Andy Reed having sex with

Speaker 1 his wife. A ham.
Just his wife. Noah Ham.
His fucking ham. Just a big ham.

Speaker 1 Just a nice juicy ham. Named Mia Ham.
Yes, exactly. He names it Mia Ham.
Yeah, he names it Mia Ham. Exactly.
Yeah, okay. I could see where that was.
Okay, that'll come out next month.

Speaker 1 Do we have any other segments?

Speaker 1 We're going to do something with Paul Pierce, PR-1. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we just need to have a poop talk about Paul Pierce.

Speaker 1 I actually don't really buy it. I don't buy it either.

Speaker 1 I think he admitted as much that he was just using it kind of to get a headline as a joke and listen paul as someone who has hanked himself in the last eight months yeah my culture is not your costume well i was gonna say i i and look i i i don't want to take too much credit but i feel like i've been on this i've been campaigning for this for like five six years now that we need to destigmatize pooping your pants and uh ever since i got caught pooping my pants at a chicago dog park and then a stoolie asked me for a picture so i think paul pierce has just waited till it's been like the the tide has turned on it, and he's like, now it's safe to say this.

Speaker 1 So he's doing it. He's kind of a coward.
And he's not only a coward, but he's doing it. And I think, I don't think he actually had to poop his pants.

Speaker 1 I think he just thought he was really, really injured. And he knows that if he says this now, people will be like, that's funny, dude.
It's cool now. He's using pooping pants as a cover for it.

Speaker 1 Like me, I have a broken rib. If I say that it feels like I have stabbing pains in my ribs, that's disrespectful to Paul Pierce, who actually had to deal with it.

Speaker 1 Damn, that was close to a filthy. Yeah, so I just don't buy it.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I've been out on the front lines for a very long time talking about how it's not a big deal. And I feel like he's just, he's, Johnny cum lately, I don't appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Now, people are people laughed at me when I said that I should have said it in real time if you wanted the credit. Well, no, I'm just saying, like, I did, you know.
Oh! Oh, I've been doing this.

Speaker 1 There's two minutes left. So I think we'll just watch the last two minutes and then we'll get to license to jail.
Cut out all the

Speaker 1 times that we don't talk. I don't know.
This is terrible radio. Okay, that's it.
Looks like the game's over.

Speaker 1 Bruins fans are fighting each other in the stands. Holy shit, that was.
Sweaters are getting tugged off left and right. Insane ending of the game.

Speaker 1 Hate to see a game like this tear the city of Boston apart. Insane.
Final score, Blues 2, Bruins one. Fans, we hope to see you back at TD Garden on Wednesday, June 12th for a potential game seven.

Speaker 5 Please drive home safely.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was Gin Game Arena announcer Jake Marsh, PMT Sports Biz.

Speaker 1 So now the Cup is in the building for the Blues. That's

Speaker 1 insane. Insane.

Speaker 1 The Cup has never been to St. Louis.
The Cup is in the building for the Blues on Sunday night. So we'll be here.
We'll do it after

Speaker 1 that game in case that the Blues win the Stanley Cup final.

Speaker 1 Let's finish up the show. With our 69-year young.
You like how I did that? That was good. You guys say that way.
69. Oh, that fucking kid is so funny.

Speaker 1 There was a chicken

Speaker 1 fan with just holding the most still and stoic middle finger as all the blues walked off the bench. That was fucking awesome.
That was fucking. That kid's about to go so viral.
All right, here she is.

Speaker 1 Chili football.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to wrap up our Friday show introducing

Speaker 1 our newest intern. We told you about Jake Marsh on Wednesday.
We also have Jack, who's behind the scenes. And

Speaker 1 to finish the big three,

Speaker 1 we have Jill, 69-year-old Jill. Jilly Football.
Jilly Football. You probably remember her from her resume.
She said that she's stronger than she looks. She's great at laughing at jokes.
She is

Speaker 1 not easily offended, well-versed in New York City and recovering from a shoulder injury, but doing really well in physical therapy.

Speaker 5 We talked to your doctor.

Speaker 1 They said you were doing great.

Speaker 10 Good to hear.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Jilly Football Football is here. We're going to do a couple things every Friday.
We're going to do license to Jill, where she gets questions from readers, from listeners, from Jillennials.

Speaker 1 From Jillennials. But we're also going to do a little, I'm not mad, but I'm disappointed,

Speaker 1 recap of the week. So, Jill, you listen to Monday and Wednesday's show.
Sometimes we get a little out of hand. Sometimes we make jokes that probably aren't great.

Speaker 1 And as our senior correspondent, that's not because of your age. That's because

Speaker 1 you have a great resume. uh where did we go wrong this week

Speaker 10 i have to tell you that i was disappointed

Speaker 10 not mad so so much worse not mad no not mad not angry but i was disappointed

Speaker 10 that i had nothing to be disappointed in oh my gosh

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 10 i swear except perhaps the only thing

Speaker 1 uh-huh

Speaker 10 the dumped lady oh yeah

Speaker 1 one who's going to be. That went on too long.

Speaker 1 Now, to be fair, this was a real question. This was a real life scenario that this lady was going through.

Speaker 1 And it's our job as podcasters to help people through their issues sometimes. So she really wanted to know if she should take a shit in front of her boyfriend.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 It just went on too long?

Speaker 10 It went on too long. I mean, you know, enough is enough.
We get it. She's stupid anyway.

Speaker 1 There was a lot to unlock.

Speaker 1 We get it. She just should have taken the crap, right? Okay.

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 10 she should have sent him packing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. So, all right, that's good.
That's good feedback because you know what? Like, that's we thought it was the right amount, but you're right.

Speaker 1 It probably went, the dump lady probably went on a little bit.

Speaker 1 Sometimes we get carried away with things, and so it's always good to have an outside set of eyes, somebody new that doesn't,

Speaker 1 that doesn't know how stupid we are sometimes to tell us, like, we need an invisible fence, like we're dogs that you just let out in an open pasture, but we need somebody to zap us back to reality sometimes.

Speaker 1 She's talking, Jill's talking, Jillie Football's talking about Monday reading: the

Speaker 1 woman who said that her boyfriend wanted her to take a shit in front of him to make sure that they weren't, she wasn't cheating on him.

Speaker 1 The dump lady, the dump lady, because the shit that the lady took was too big, and the guy didn't believe that it could come from his girlfriend, right? Right, that one?

Speaker 1 See, we're doing it too much right now. Yeah, okay, exactly.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 10 But can I say something I liked? Yeah, I loved the karaoke.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 I thought that was

Speaker 10 amazing. Thank you.
You guys have have good voices.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Well, Manny Pacquiao does.
Yeah. Well, he does.
Voice of the nature.

Speaker 10 He really got into it. I love that.
I could listen to it for longer.

Speaker 1 The trick was, when we started singing, Big Cat and I, we sang very poorly to get started with. And then Manny was like, no, I got this.

Speaker 1 And he kind of like pushed us away and he's like, I want to take it. He's like, hold the, you guys, you guys sit in the back.
I'm going to take the wheel. All right.

Speaker 1 So, Jilly Football, we're going to do license to Jill. We've got questions.
She's getting her phone up. What font do you use?

Speaker 10 I need a

Speaker 1 password. Let's see, she lost the password.
No, I thought that was your password. That was.

Speaker 10 It was?

Speaker 1 But that's not my phone.

Speaker 10 Oh, thanks.

Speaker 10 That's just a phone.

Speaker 1 Why do you have two phones in front of you?

Speaker 10 Because I'm very important.

Speaker 1 She's got a burner. Okay, so which one are you going to read?

Speaker 10 I'm going to read.

Speaker 1 You have a beautiful family, by the way.

Speaker 10 I do. Yeah.
But this one is my darling Jake's phone.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake Marshall. Jake, we need, yeah, unlock.
Okay, here we go. There you go.
Okay, so these are questions that are submitted by you, part of my take, award-winning listeners.

Speaker 10 Okay. Okay, my first question is, Jill, what were you doing in your life when Big Cat and PFT were born?

Speaker 1 1985. 1985? January 30th and 31st.
Yeah, and 31st. Yeah.

Speaker 10 January 30th?

Speaker 1 I'm 30th. You can probably tell by maturity.
I'm 31st. You can probably tell because I have much more youthful skin.
Yes. So we were born a day apart.
It's crazy. Nicer body.
Crazy. Crazy.

Speaker 1 So what were you doing?

Speaker 10 I was

Speaker 10 living in California.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 10 had two kids and one on the way.

Speaker 1 Smoking weed?

Speaker 10 I had,

Speaker 10 of course,

Speaker 10 all the way through my pregnancy.

Speaker 1 All of them.

Speaker 1 Talking to Mike Johnson. Drank.

Speaker 10 Drank. Yeah.
You know, I did it all.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's honesty.

Speaker 10 Extended my growth, but they were okay.

Speaker 1 What part of California? Because I remember when you talked to us a couple days ago, you said that you were a flower child.

Speaker 10 I was, but I was living in Nevada then. And the summer of 67,

Speaker 10 we drove up to San Francisco, did the whole Hey Dashbury

Speaker 1 expand your mind a little bit?

Speaker 10 Expanded my mind, but I was

Speaker 10 I was a naive little girl.

Speaker 1 How many Grateful Dead concerts have you been to?

Speaker 1 None. What?

Speaker 1 Zero. Yeah, I think you're a narc.

Speaker 10 Zero. No, at the time, you know, you live in Nevada.

Speaker 10 Grow up there, and you're closer to Southern California. So what are you interested in? The beach boys.

Speaker 10 The surfing.

Speaker 1 The surf sound. Okay.

Speaker 10 were you a surfer I have surfed yeah but I'm not a surfer right okay make sure this doesn't log

Speaker 10 next one and does Jilly football mail birthday cards to family members

Speaker 1 of course the fuck was that question

Speaker 10 of course I do yeah

Speaker 1 I've got a lot of family and it's always nice to get a card do you have a calendar that's set up so that you know when you have to send the letters do you big cat why was that set set up uh it was a ridiculous question because of course she does.

Speaker 1 Like, of course she does.

Speaker 10 Well, but now, you know, there's a chance to Facebook.

Speaker 1 You can send these cards, yeah.

Speaker 10 And now you can Facebook.

Speaker 1 But that's not the same. It's a much more personal touch.

Speaker 10 And no, I don't have a calendar.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you just remember it.

Speaker 10 Sometimes I'm late.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 But I do.

Speaker 1 All five of your kids' birthdays go

Speaker 10 September 28th. April 8th, April 28th, May 2nd, May 9th.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you were really getting it down. Very busy in the summer.
late December, yeah. Very busy in the late summer.
Got it, yo.

Speaker 1 I was celebrating Labor Day weekend. Indian summer, Nathan Harshan.

Speaker 1 Labor Day. Yeah.
Okay, next one. Okay.

Speaker 10 Two questions. First, what are your favorite sports teams? So the AWLs can be prepared for Soggy Sorrows.
Yeah, so professional or college? Both.

Speaker 10 Professional football teams would have to be the 49ers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And the seahawks oh you like both of them that doesn't really work so it doesn't really work

Speaker 1 still like it i still like them okay we're gonna need you to pick one of the two though to be that must have been a tough energy

Speaker 10 yeah have to be the 49ers okay you're gonna say that's a tough end of the team i go back to joe montana

Speaker 10 i love joe montana okay all right

Speaker 10 and college yeah

Speaker 10 go blue

Speaker 1 michigan okay good you don't have any big ten representation yeah all right that's gonna be problematic what other teams you root for? Any other basketball teams?

Speaker 10 Oh, basketball team? Yeah. College?

Speaker 10 Carolina.

Speaker 1 Carolina Blue.

Speaker 1 We got a little rivalry with Hank over there.

Speaker 1 What the hell is going on right now? So, Jill, Hank is a big Duke fan.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. No.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're no longer friends. Yes.

Speaker 1 That is going to be fun. When we have the live watch for Duke UNC next year,

Speaker 10 I've been trying to get my son tickets

Speaker 10 to a Duke Carolina game for years.

Speaker 1 Got you. I got you.

Speaker 1 Okay, I got you.

Speaker 1 We'll figure it out later. See Geek.
All right, and then any baseball, basketball, NBA, you don't care? Baseball, you don't care?

Speaker 10 Oh, I love the Mets.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. There we go.

Speaker 1 We've got everything.

Speaker 1 We need like something in Texas, maybe in Florida, and you got to see. No, Texas.

Speaker 10 Okay. I don't like Texas teams.
Florida, well, I used to like the Monley. I used to go to the, I used to have season tickets to the Panthers in Florida.
The hockey team. Hockey team.

Speaker 1 Jesus Jesus Christ, John.

Speaker 1 You're all over the place. I love those.
Those lived in every corner of the country. Yeah.
Damn.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
That's great. So when any of those teams lose, we're going to have to douse you in water and you're going to have to come on the show.
All right.

Speaker 1 49ers probably won't lose too many games, so you'll be okay. You'll be fine.
Well, and if they lose, they probably lose to the Seahawks, so we're really okay.

Speaker 1 You know what? We'll give you both those teams. Yeah, you get both.
All right, next one.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 10 What's up, Jilly Football? Saw your Twitter cover photo is an x-ray of your shoulder and have a question.

Speaker 10 Are you hurt or injured?

Speaker 10 Thoughts and prayers. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 10 I got hurt. I got injured.
I

Speaker 1 know that's the difference. One or the other.

Speaker 1 So being hurt, you can't hurt me. You play through it.

Speaker 10 No, I was injured. Okay.

Speaker 10 I truly was injured. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, you said the other day that somebody pushed you over, but that was

Speaker 1 the lie. You just fell?

Speaker 10 I just fell. And

Speaker 10 I wasn't drinking.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Do you have life alert? Is that offensive to say?

Speaker 10 I don't have life alert, but I probably should.

Speaker 1 Okay, there we go. All right.

Speaker 10 But I was outside just walking and

Speaker 10 slipped on the sidewalk.

Speaker 10 And I had had thumb surgery, so I didn't want to put my hand down and hurt my hand, so I fell on my shoulder.

Speaker 1 Took the brunt of the force on the shoulder. Okay.

Speaker 1 But you are crushing your physical therapy. I am.
Yeah. You're killing it.
I almost destroyed the homework every day. Did you walk walk around with a wrist guard for a long time?

Speaker 1 I feel like that's a look that

Speaker 1 older women rock. Like a prophylactic.

Speaker 1 Like you're going rollerblade. Either rollerblade or they might have, you know, have carpal tunnel.
I don't know. You know what?

Speaker 1 Hank is doing boulders for shoulders this summer, so maybe you and him could get on the same workout. Maybe you guys should do some shoulder workouts.
Oh, yes. Yes, yes.
Okay, next question.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 10 Zuck, Jilly.

Speaker 10 AERP work.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 10 Yes and no. Oh.
It gets you discounts.

Speaker 1 Okay. This is how does.
Oh, how does. Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 How does

Speaker 10 AARP work? Well, you sign up when you're 50 because that's when they consider old.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 10 And you just go from there and you get little magazines and you get a card and

Speaker 10 you show it.

Speaker 1 So you're checking into a hotel and you just flash the card and they're like, here's 20% off? Correct. Yeah, we got to get an AARP.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 What else do you get out out of it? What's the best discount you got on an AARP?

Speaker 10 Probably a hotel.

Speaker 1 Nice. Okay, so when we book our hotels,

Speaker 1 we should bring you along. You pay for yourself.
Yeah, use your card. Yeah.
Absolutely. Okay, next.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, wait.
Well, this one's long. Yeah, this one's long.
Okay. This is the last one.
Okay.

Speaker 10 What's up, Jill? Especially Jillie Football. You seem like you have...
maternal instincts. So I'll get right to the point.

Speaker 10 I live with my girlfriend and my little sister who just graduated college moved into our second bedroom for a month while she finds a place.

Speaker 10 My girlfriend is pissed off because I don't want to charge my sister rent for living with us.

Speaker 10 Good guy move. It's not a big deal.
We're at a standstill and I don't know what to do. I love my girlfriend, but I don't want to change

Speaker 10 my sister's rent.

Speaker 10 Or I don't want to charge my sister rent.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 10 Please help. Well,

Speaker 10 I'm staying with my kids, and they're not charging me rent.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 10 What can I say?

Speaker 1 Big time move by them.

Speaker 10 I think that is a stand-up thing to do.

Speaker 1 Family first.

Speaker 10 Always family first.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, what do you think? Do you think this guy should just tell his girlfriend, like, hey, why don't you buzz off?

Speaker 10 No, I don't think he should tell her to buzz off. I think he should just say, this is the way it is.

Speaker 1 Take a dump in front of me.

Speaker 10 Yeah, take the dump.

Speaker 1 Yeah, take a dump and let me know. Take a dump.
Yeah, that works. Dump girl.

Speaker 1 Dump girl, dump lady. What do you think about about the idea of like having the sister or the person who's not paying rent do certain things around the house? Oh, absolutely.
Like tidying up,

Speaker 1 flushing dumps. Yeah, flushing their own dumps frequently.

Speaker 10 You got to pay your way. You got to do something.

Speaker 1 So, what do you do around your house?

Speaker 10 I clean their apartments. I do their laundry.

Speaker 1 You get this internship.

Speaker 10 I got the internship.

Speaker 10 Thank you, Adam.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you nailed this internship that got you out of the house every now and then. You're getting paid.
Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 You are.

Speaker 10 I thought I had to pay you.

Speaker 1 So that's the way I thought it was. How much money do you have on you, Jill? Because, yeah, the way it works is you get paid, but then you just transfer that money to us.

Speaker 10 That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 All right. So, Jilly Football, first day in the books.
You can follow her at Jilly underscore football. You're going to be tweeting.
We want you tweeting all your thoughts.

Speaker 1 Anything else you have for us?

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on Twitter, Jill, so far? Yeah. What's your experience with it?

Speaker 10 It's confusing. I'm sorry.
You know, if it wasn't for

Speaker 10 my darling Jake,

Speaker 10 I don't think I could do it. He has to come and practically hold my hand.

Speaker 1 You'll be just fine. You know what you should do while you're still learning to get the hang of Twitter? You should write down all your tweets.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Instead of tweeting them, and then when you get into the office, we can help you tweet them out. Or write down your tweets and take a picture of them and then tweet the picture.

Speaker 1 That's a good idea. That's a streamlining thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that really works. All your thoughts.
And by the way, not to give you any pressure or anything, but you are up to 5,000 Twitter followers. Oh, wow.
So the world is watching.

Speaker 10 Wow. I'm a lucky woman.

Speaker 1 Very popular. Yeah, you are very, very popular.
I also like how you call Jake my darling Jake. I'd like to see that continued.

Speaker 1 I think I might call him my darling Jake. Yeah.
All right. So, Jill,

Speaker 1 every Friday, you're going to be out in the summer. It's going to be a fun little summer.

Speaker 1 License to Jill. And make sure you come back with some things that you're disappointed that we're going to screw up.
Oh, well, you will. Yes, you will screw up.
Score dump later.

Speaker 1 But it's about getting up. Knock me down seven times, get up eight.
Yeah, exactly. All right, Jill.
Thank you so much. Thanks, guys.

Speaker 5 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Talk to the mic.

Speaker 5 Love you guys.

Speaker 5 Talking away,

Speaker 5 I don't know what to say. I'd say it anyway.

Speaker 5 Today's only my day to follow you. Shine

Speaker 5 all the coming for your love of gay.

Speaker 1 Shine

Speaker 1 I'm coming for your love of gay. Needless to say,

Speaker 1 I'll stay here. It's about being so little late.

Speaker 1 Smelling them like

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 I'll explain to you safe and tell me. Say of me.

Speaker 1 Let's go to the safe and tell me.