2X SB Champ Ike Taylor + S8E2 Game Of Thrones Recap

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have two-time Super Bowl champion Ike Taylor. I'm going to say this right now.
Listen up. This could possibly be interview of the year.
I'm throwing in the nominees.

Speaker 1 He was a very funny guy. Interview of the year.
He's going to be at least the finalist for interview of the year. That's how funny he was.

Speaker 1 Out of nowhere, too, because we just sat down with like Taylor. Thought it'd be a regular interview.
He had so many good one-liners, so many good stories.

Speaker 1 We also have Game of Thrones recap, NBA Playoffs, NHL, NFL Draft Week,

Speaker 1 and Who's Back of the Week. And a special Monday reading from someone who should not be online anymore, a certain wide receiver for the Detroit Lions, which I didn't realize he signed with the Lions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. Yeah, that was a good idea.
I thought he was Dolphins still.

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Speaker 1 is violence.

Speaker 1 And then a lot of

Speaker 1 work to be done.

Speaker 1 Lord Place behind a low-washing.

Speaker 1 And then I can't name all on the sun. Oh, no, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue.

Speaker 1 And then we'll take it higher.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue. If you pardon my tape

Speaker 1 schools,

Speaker 1 Welcome to Pardon My Tape presented by the Cash App. Today is Monday, April 22nd.

Speaker 1 We are balls deep in the playoffs. Let's go.
Balls deep in the playoffs. Well, the first round of the playoffs.
So we're not balls deep yet. We're like, we're frinulum deep in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 We're balls deep in the first round of the playoffs. Yes, that's true.
But overall, in the grand scheme, we're playing just the tip with the entire playoff team. Yes.

Speaker 1 So let's start with the NBA playoffs. We'll talk a little hockey as well.
The big story of the NBA playoffs first round, I would say, has been Jared Dudley versus the Philadelphia 76ers.

Speaker 1 The feud that no one wanted or needed, but here we are and we have it. We got it.
We got it. We had the Sixers versus the Nets in Brooklyn.
Brooklyn stand-up. They've been chanting Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 They were chanting Jared Dudley's name. Jared Dudley tried to fight Joellen Bede.
Jay Butt.

Speaker 1 Teammate of the Year award.

Speaker 1 That's how you get that extra money when he hops in. Ben Simmons has become somewhat of a sympathetic character.
I want your take, PFT.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to say totally unbiased, even though I'm biased because I don't like Jared Dudley because he denied an interview on part of my take and canceled like last second.

Speaker 1 I think Jared Dudley's a clown. Ooh.
Okay. He's a clown.
I'll go with that. And you're right.
When you said Ben Simmons has become kind of a sympathetic character,

Speaker 1 in a very hilarious way, he has because he is a very, very good basketball player. And if you have a basketball player with one enormous flaw in their game,

Speaker 1 that person becomes more likable because they suck a little bit. The boy who can't shoot.
You're like, oh,

Speaker 1 he's not so different from you and I.

Speaker 1 We've got about the same percentage jump shot from three-point, except for the fact that he can dunk over everybody. He's a good ball handler.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, he has become a little bit sympathetic. I like the Nets.
I think they're feisty. I think that arena in Brooklyn has a lot of history in it.

Speaker 1 I think that in the second round of the playoffs, when the Capitals take on the Islanders,

Speaker 1 we're going to have to overcome a lot in that barn.

Speaker 1 That is ground zero for hockey on Long Island. So I think it's more the building that's giving the Nets their edge in this one.

Speaker 1 People really like

Speaker 1 people don't like Ben Simmons. I know.
I have a question for you, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is Joelle Embiid going to be a bust? Joelle Embiid is a fucking monster. He is a monster.
Like, watching him play. When he's healthy.

Speaker 1 But he was a monster on Saturday.

Speaker 1 When he is out there, he looks like he's playing with little kids. Like, his hands are so much bigger than everyone.

Speaker 1 He's so much taller he gets the ball in the post there's nothing anyone can do yeah him and boban are like yeah 1.5 sizes they're like there it makes no sense watching him move and be like you know be able to move as such a big guy he also had an awesome uh post-game sound bite where he basically was like they were like why didn't you fight some people were saying joel and bead like he just put his hands up and didn't want to fight he's like well i'm very important to my team and my teammates unlike some other people jared dudley jared dudley can get kicked out it doesn't really matter yeah joel Embiid and knows that he's important to the Sixers, and I like that out of Joel Ellen Bi.

Speaker 1 Ben Simmons, people really don't like Ben Simmons. It's actually crazy.
I think it's because everyone's like, dude, just shoot. Just shoot.

Speaker 1 Well, they give him like 14 feet of leeway when he's above the key, bringing the ball up. Hotly fancy.

Speaker 1 That's what he shoots at the puck the whole time. That's what they used to do with Chris Paul.
When Chris Paul first got in the league, people forget Chris Paul had no jump shot at all.

Speaker 1 Like he couldn't hit anything outside of 12 feet, and he developed one. So I think Simmons will eventually develop a jump shot to complement the rest of his game, but it's going to take him a while.

Speaker 1 And I think mentally, it's tougher when you see an opponent giving you such flagrant disrespect

Speaker 1 to even get the confidence of a shooter. You're like, that guy really thinks I suck.
I must really suck. Yes.
And listen, again,

Speaker 1 I am very biased in this because Jared Dudley did cancel a part of my take interview like

Speaker 1 what, two minutes before he was supposed to come on. So I'm happy to admit my bias here for people who are like, how could you ever take Ben Simmons side? Well,

Speaker 1 I can tell you because guess what? Petty Wars, baby. This leak.
What if Dudley comes on? Well, if Dudley comes on, we're going to

Speaker 1 clean slate. Yeah, we will.
We'll wipe the slate clean. We'll give him a chance.
But until that happens, Petty Wars, for real. I'm going to go to Instagram.

Speaker 1 I did like, I will say one thing nice about Jared Dudley.

Speaker 1 The minute he got kicked out, he went straight to the locker room and just started liking tweets of random people on Twitter saying they would kick his ass. That they would beat him up.
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 I like that. That's a pretty cool movie.
You know what I'm going to do for Petty Wars? I'm going to follow Jared Dudley right now.

Speaker 1 Hang on. Yeah, and then unfollow him? Yeah, then boom.
Jared Dudley. That's where the no verification hurts, though.
Yeah, that does. No one's even going to see it.

Speaker 1 Oh, his Instagram handle is Jared Dudley for MVP. Isn't that wait? There we go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm so verified on Instagram. Get it.
Jared Dudley, accounts. What's his, hey, can you do some research and find

Speaker 1 the handle? Okay, we'll get back to that. But the other news coming out of that game was the Brooklyn Nets general manager, Sean Marks, was suspended for one game.

Speaker 1 I always love these suspensions when they suspend an owner or a general manager for a game. You're not allowed to sit in your nice luxury box.

Speaker 1 You don't have to sit in your nice luxury couch at your house. Right.
He was suspended because he went into the officiating room and charged the refs, which is always a bizarre move.

Speaker 1 I like it, though. That's the passion.

Speaker 1 Like, if I was an owner, if I was a general manager, I'd probably have a back entrance to the refs room just so I could pop in and be like, it's me again, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 That is their version of the process up in Brooklyn, is just having your general manager just going harder than anybody else on the team.

Speaker 1 Listen, nice season for the Nets. They probably would get bounced in game five, but yeah, I don't know.
Jared Dudley, you're on the wrong side for me here. They're going to be good next year, though.

Speaker 1 And Jay Butt, way to be a teammate, bro. Yeah, Jay Butt.
That's a huge. Like, just when Jay Butt is a bad guy, I was surprised.
I was surprised that Jay Butt did.

Speaker 1 Jay Butt's usually all about Jay Butt. Right.
He knows. He knows people know that there's questions about his being a good teammate.
Boom. Just play that highlight tape over and over and over.

Speaker 1 Jay Dudd does not have an Instagram account.

Speaker 1 His most recent tweet, though, is Cersei time, Game of Thrones. Let's go.
Oh, wow. Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Damn. Even though I am Team Cersei.
Fuck. Okay, Jared Dudley.
I'm no longer Team Cersei. I disavow Cersei because of Jared Dudley's association with him.
Follow Jared Dudley.

Speaker 1 Unfollow Jared Dudley. Damn.
Have that. All right.
Other stories. Tell me how my ass tastes.
The Bucs Pistons series. Shout out our boy Blake Griffin for putting it all together on the line.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 That was good. Oh, Pete.
That was good. Yeah, my ass.

Speaker 1 Just a little saber metrics stat for you right there, by the way, Hank.

Speaker 1 Albert Poulholsten and Alex Rodriguez, the only two players that have 14 home runs before May 1st. How many home run Derby championships do those two have combined? Zero.
Also.

Speaker 1 Wait, Pulhols didn't win? No.

Speaker 1 Was that the year Hamilton?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but he has never won one. And then

Speaker 1 how about this for you?

Speaker 1 Where is the All-Star game this year? Cleveland. Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Because Christian Yelich has yet to hit a home run on the road.
Ooh, that is very interesting. Wait, he's hit all these at home? Yeah.
He just loves the slides.

Speaker 1 He loves the fucking slides. Suck it.
We're going to have Christian Yelich on this week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let me just say, though, this is a take that's going to sound like me just trying to talk myself into not being worried about Big Cat's lips being all over my body.

Speaker 1 And your lips being on my body. See, there's some

Speaker 1 consternation about that because in the clip, you volunteered me to eat your ass. You didn't say that.
No, because I was focused. I said we had a laser focus on each other's ass.

Speaker 1 I had a laser focus on eating that crow's off.

Speaker 1 You kept going on your little train. I kept going on my little train.
Tough. So we ended up at different destinations.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a human centipede that's going to start with a crow, then to my mouth, then my butt to your mouth. So a crow, human-centipede hybrid.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to eat my butt, too.

Speaker 1 Blake Griffin, let's get back on track. Blake Griffin played with like a bionic leg.
Shout out to him for trying as hard as he could.

Speaker 1 That's the heart that you like to see out of a Blake of the Year candidate. He knows that is coming up, too.
Yes, he knows it's coming up.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, the Bucs just demolished them again. That series is trash.

Speaker 1 The Rockets, James Harden missed every single shot. James,

Speaker 1 this is when you have to be worried if you're the Warriors, because the Warriors are done with the Clippers. Like, that was fun.
Yeah. That one little comeback.
Beverly being time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kevin Durant was like, oh, wait, I am the best player in the NBA. I'll just shoot over you and just do everything I want.

Speaker 1 I give credit to Charles Barkley for doing that because he straight up talked to Kevin Durant through the camera and he was like, I can't do a Charles. I was about to do a Charles Barkley.

Speaker 1 The impression was going to be bad.

Speaker 1 But basically said, this guy stinks, and you're Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 Just be Kevin Durant and things will be fine. Right.
And he was like, oh, he's right. I am easy money sniper, snake in the grass.

Speaker 1 And Clay Thompson also said that he, to reset his brain, he just jumped in the ocean. Fuck.

Speaker 1 That's what's so awesome about Calvin.

Speaker 1 I love Clay Thompson so much. He's so fucking cool.

Speaker 1 But so the reason why the Warriors should be a little worried, though, the Rockets survived the James Harden weird drug game where he just didn't score on 420. Interesting.

Speaker 1 And they somehow then came back late, beat the Jazz. That series is basically over.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 so watching that game, I just attributed that to being in Salt Lake City. Like, that's not...
James Harden is not in his normal environment in Salt Lake City. There are no strip clubs there.
Nothing.

Speaker 1 No fun. Probably can't find a bar that serves any kind of the liquor that he likes because they have those modesty laws where he can only drink like milk.

Speaker 1 3% milk is basically a pickleback. Get you fucked up.
That's a Red Bull vodka is a four percent is a whole milk. Yes.
So yeah,

Speaker 1 he was out of sorts. He made the dunk though when it counted and he's still good at doing that thing in the fourth quarter where he just leans into you and gets a foul shot.

Speaker 1 And the thing is, like Utah fans hate him. They absolutely hate him.
They hate everyone.

Speaker 1 But if James Harden was a member of the jazz, he would be their favorite player of all time, except for probably Jon Stockton. I'm going to guess they'll still lean that way.

Speaker 1 But like hardened the way that he plays, they would love what an asshole he can be on the court. They would absolutely love that Salt Lake.

Speaker 1 The Celtics sweep, Hank, thoughts.

Speaker 1 That was a quick sweep. Exciting.
I guess all sweeps are quick.

Speaker 1 I think next round is going to be a battle. Yes, I would say so.

Speaker 1 And then our magic.

Speaker 1 Not going to happen. Tough break.
Not going to happen. And then on our magic.
Not going to happen for our magic. We tried.
I never even got the shot of Epcot.

Speaker 1 I feel very robbed of our magic in their playoff,

Speaker 1 their return to the playoffs in the first time in forever. Listen, they'll be fine.
They got some building blocks. They got DJ Augustine like we talked about.
Michael Carter Williams.

Speaker 1 Michael Carter, MC Doug. One rookie of the year.
Yeah, he's good. And then they've got Aaron.
Yeah. I almost called him Aaron Paul.
They got Aaron Paul.

Speaker 1 Aaron, they got Aaron.

Speaker 1 And then the game that's going on right now,

Speaker 1 no surprise to anyone, Damian Lillard and Russell Westbrook have a feud. Russell Westbrook is just walking around looking for a feud.

Speaker 1 I also need a microphone on Stephen Adams at all times because, like, when he was getting into it with Damian Lillard a couple days ago, and he was just gesturing violently all over the court and like putting his finger in his chest, I just need to know what he's saying because I don't know what it is, but I guarantee you it's gold.

Speaker 1 All right, so that's NBA playoffs. PFT, I want to throw something out there for the NHL.
So you put the caps in the second round. I'm fine with that.
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 Are you a little worried about the curse of Barry Trots? No, I'm not worried about the curse of Barry Trots. Because I just decided there's a curse of Barry Trots.

Speaker 1 Where the team that fires him... Yes, and now he's going to get his vengeance.
Here's where I would be concerned about Barry Trots.

Speaker 1 If he gets out there and he skates the hot lap, the last lap of the practice, that's when it's like, okay, shit's real. I'm just saying, you win a Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 A franchise that's never won anything that's a joke of a franchise wins a Stanley Cup. You must be talking about

Speaker 1 fires their coach, and their coach goes to the New York Islanders, and now you've got to play them. Okay, first of all, we didn't fire him.
Okay. You let him go.

Speaker 1 You didn't didn't hire him. We did not renew.
We did not hire him.

Speaker 1 We elected not to have Barry Trots on our firing. Well, we got Reardon.
Reardon's pretty good. I'm not concerned about the curse of Barry Trots.
I am very concerned about that arena. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think that that place is just, it screams hockey, and it's going to be a tough place to do. As well as balls talk.
They do, and I'm very worried about Frankie Borrelli.

Speaker 1 I actually am worried about that because he is a lunatic. He is insane when it comes to the Islanders.
He assaulted an old man. He did, and he'll do it again.

Speaker 1 And, well, I mean, the dude on the hurricanes tried to assault an old man, and Alex Ovechkin beat the shit out of him. Oh, yeah, was he seen?

Speaker 1 You should actually, yeah, you should really like Alexander Ovechkin because he's taking it on himself to be a vigilante and beating up teenagers.

Speaker 1 Listen, he just, if you're 19, don't go around Ovechkin, he'll beat you the fuck out of you. Is that guy even back? Yeah, I think he's coming back.

Speaker 1 Next game, he was like, Yeah, he was like trying to be all a hipster to Ovechkin. He was like, Hey, name three of these bands that you've never heard of.

Speaker 1 Ovechkin was like, Fuck you, teen, and punched him in the face. Hank, game seven, the biggest Bruins fan we know.
Thoughts. Nervous.
I'm

Speaker 1 yeah. Interesting.
It's in our barn, though. I think we're going to take it home.
Okay. They did look good to see.
The boys skating well today.

Speaker 1 In your barn. The old barn.

Speaker 1 What about, I mean, Toronto's goalie's pretty good. The old barn.
Pretty good. Tucker Rask is sometimes not good.

Speaker 1 Toronto was good like 50 years ago. That's got to count for something.
What about the curse of Rob Ford? That's true. Is that maybe why they haven't been good recently?

Speaker 1 I think two years too late. I think they haven't been good since

Speaker 1 they haven't won anything in a very long time. Bruins need to win to keep the Boston sweep intact.

Speaker 1 There we go. What I'd really like to see is if the Capitals eventually play against Maple Leaf, so I get to go to Toronto.
Have to have Passport Day here on part of my take. Yep.

Speaker 1 By the way, wait, so you just put the Capitals into the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah, I mean.
You've not gotten out of the field.

Speaker 1 I'm also thinking, like, how quickly you become awesome

Speaker 1 to go back to Vegas disgusting.

Speaker 1 I wish we had last year's PFT when he was actually like scared about it and like oh man, this like who was overworried.

Speaker 1 I've never seen my teams win.

Speaker 1 Now you got to just lifting the cup again like oh yeah, well, I'm going to have to go to Toronto. Once you taste the neck and then maybe back to Vegas.

Speaker 1 Once you taste the nectar out of the cup for yourself. I know it's not a lot of, you know, you guys probably haven't done it recently.
Well, this decade. Okay, this decade.
I slept on the cup.

Speaker 1 You passed out on it? Yeah. There's a picture of me sleeping on it.
You passed out on it. A little nap on on the cup.
Did it just let you do that? Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 I shared a cup with Diplo, and that was pretty cool. And so once you do that, it's like, okay.

Speaker 1 You have to get an SCD test. Yeah, well, trust me.
I'm clean. I'm clean as a whistle.

Speaker 1 I'm looking back,

Speaker 1 and I'm looking forward. So I'm like, I would like to do.
You just become a cocky fan. It's okay.
Just admit it. You're going to bring those pants back.
Yeah, you just clutch jeans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the pants you got kicked out of the club with. Oh, yeah, you're right.
Those will be the new clutch jeans for this year's playoffs. You just saw the shine kit.
No, I left them.

Speaker 1 I think I left them in the hotel room just like as my championship banner i raised them to the ceiling yes sorry i lowered them all right let's do a little nfl draft talk we have two things we have to talk about one is uh our guy pete prisco reporting that the cardinals now do not want kyler murray so smokescreen's uh season is in full effect i don't know what to make of it I actually think there's a chance the Cardinals can say, like, wait, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 We're taking two quarterbacks in back-to-back years?

Speaker 1 But it's like, you know, new regime in there. So I could see them.

Speaker 1 I still think they're going to take Kyler Murray. Yeah.
I think that Josh Rosen is, I'm calling my shot. I think that Josh Rosen is going to be a Redskin.
Okay. I think that they're going to make it

Speaker 1 unless the Skins can get Haskins. A team

Speaker 1 should trade for Josh Rosen. Like, it's so stupid that teams could sour on a guy when he played on the worst fucking team in football

Speaker 1 behind the worst line with a totally different OC and like all these things. Like you like think about Mitch Trubisky or Jared Goff, their first first seasons.

Speaker 1 And why wouldn't you want to say, oh, he was the 10th pick last year?

Speaker 1 Why wouldn't you trade for him now? Because we don't know if he really loves football or not. That's true.
It's still up in the air. Get that going again.
Yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that he'll end up getting traded. I really do.
The other big story was the Raiders. Oh, yeah.
So the Raiders sent all the scouts home. They said, go home, take your stuff.

Speaker 1 It's just going to be Mike Mayok and John Gruden running the show, like Mr. Burns and Smithers doing the whole power plant when they were on strike.
So

Speaker 1 I get that Mayok doesn't trust anybody, but this is like the most hilarious example of NFL paranoia. Do you think it's Mayok? I think it's Gruden.
Doesn't trust anyone.

Speaker 1 I think they don't trust each other. Well, that's what I was going to say.
They kicked everyone out, and now they're just staring at each other on like a long table

Speaker 1 on either end, and they're like, uh-oh, what's going on here? Do I trust you? Do you trust me? And they're just going to basically forget to pick.

Speaker 1 I actually wouldn't be surprised if Mayok had some like some smokescreen picks on his big board that he just put up so that other people, you know how like in Game of Thrones, they'll film film an ending.

Speaker 1 Spoiler, maybe.

Speaker 1 Or just in movies in general or TV shows, they'll film movie, or they'll film endings that don't actually air just so that they kind of throw off the scent for all the cast and production that's working on it, so you can't spoil it.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure Mayok has like made up draft prospects names on the big board. And they're like, oh, Harvester Jones from Northern Illinois University.
Let's get him. Interior lineman.

Speaker 1 He's my number one bubble butt. So we're going after him in the second round.
Oily ass hips. Oily ass hips.
Hoping that the scouts would go spread that word.

Speaker 1 I don't think that they trust each other. I think you're right,

Speaker 1 but I think they trust each other more than they trust anybody else in that building. I just want them to trade all three of their picks to get Kyler Murray.
That would be great.

Speaker 1 It would be so fucking funny. That would be very so fucking funny.
And then Kyler Murray gets to play in Oakland in the baseball season. For one year, yeah.
Yeah. That would be perfect.

Speaker 1 Maybe he can get both contracts.

Speaker 1 All right. Should we do who's back? Hank, why don't you get us going? Sure.
I had a few. One of them was the ocean after Clay Thompson's comment.
Yeah. Ocean cures all.
My other. Oh, you love that.

Speaker 1 I do love the ocean. You are the number one hangover cure.
It is. Clay Thompson's profit.

Speaker 1 Now, what's better, the Pacific or the Atlantic to jump in for a hangover? This is a very tough question, Hank.

Speaker 1 I want you to answer this honestly because there's a lot at stake because Hank obviously loves the Atlantic Ocean, situate kid, but he has been basically...

Speaker 1 begging us to move part of my take to the west coast for, I don't know, since its inception.

Speaker 1 I mean, I would have to just say Atlantic, though, because that's all I know.

Speaker 1 You've never been in the Pacific. I have, but I've never jumped off a bridge into an ocean in the Pacific.
By the way,

Speaker 1 it might hit different. I don't know if people.
Were you with us? Oh, no, it was

Speaker 1 Final Four.

Speaker 1 We were in the airport, and we were talking about Hank, again, being like, I want to move to California. And I should have consulted with you, but I made the deal to Hank that we will move on.

Speaker 1 Sounds a lot like the ass-eating battle. Freddy? No, no.

Speaker 1 We'll move part of my take to California, but Hank can't ever go into any water, ocean or pool.

Speaker 1 So he just lives there, and he just has to live there and cannot go into any body of water. But is he allowed on the beach? I would say no.
No, no beaches. No beaches.
No beaches. You guys are sick.

Speaker 1 Because beaches. Speaking of California, so I just got back from California

Speaker 1 a couple hours ago. Sacktown.
Sacktown. What do you mean, Hank? That's like fake California.

Speaker 1 Jeez.

Speaker 1 My one question is. Yo, what if we move to Sacramento?

Speaker 1 We'll move to California. All right, tell tell you what, Hank.
We're moving to Fresno. Just like you always wanted.
You wanted it, buddy.

Speaker 1 I have one question for all our West Coast listeners out there. What do you guys do between the hours of 9 p.m.

Speaker 1 and when you go to bed?

Speaker 1 This is where Hank's little fucking...

Speaker 1 Dude, I remember I went to a bachelor party in San Diego a few years ago, and I was at the bar, and at like 8 o'clock, there's just nothing on. No more sports on.
So you have to talk to everyone.

Speaker 1 It's horrendous. Everybody just like goes home and irons the bill of their hat for tomorrow to to make sure it's nice and fresh.
Sucks. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 People speak to each other and like eye contact, good vibes. Fuck that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wasn't a fan of that. No.

Speaker 1 Very sad. One day.
One day you guys will come around. We can right now.
We can move to Sacramento tomorrow. I mean, a perfect example of this, you know, best player in the world, LeBron James.

Speaker 1 He's hairline. I don't know if you guys saw this today.
Yes. His hairline is back.
Oh, really?

Speaker 1 He resurrected it on Easter. He said it.
He posted a video. He was as long as this.
And he just had like a nice, fresh fade. Yep.
perfectly, you know,

Speaker 1 full head of hair on the top of the hair. I think is the word for it.

Speaker 1 I want him to get like braids. Yeah.
Like either Kawhi braids or Dwayne Wade braids. You probably saw how fly Dwayne looks.
D'Angelo Russell, fat braids. Ooh, what about the Kobe Jones?

Speaker 1 You remember him from the U.S. soccer team? Some like bleached braids.
I like that.

Speaker 1 I miss LeBron. LeBron would look like such a juggalo if he had bleached braids.
Yeah, he would. It'd be awesome.
I miss LeBron, though. Do you guys miss him in these playoffs?

Speaker 1 I miss him in the playoffs. LeBron comes back with bleached braids and a tongue ring, and he's like, it's me, Callie LeBron.
I did see that ratings are down like 30%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, LeBron. Like, I do.
So it's James Jordan's field goals. I want LeBron to lose, but I miss him losing in the playoffs.
It's really what I miss.

Speaker 1 I miss him winning enough to the point where it's entertaining to watch him lose devastatingly.

Speaker 1 Correct. Anything else, Hank? Is that it, Hank? That's it.
That's it. Okay.
Day two. Great job.
For who's back. So it's a one.

Speaker 1 All right, my who's back of the week segment. Oh, you only have one? Is

Speaker 1 church. Church is back.
That was mine, too. Fuck.
So, this is one of the, I guess, two days out of the year that most people go to church. Oh, wait, maybe this wasn't mine.

Speaker 1 Well, it might be different. So, the other part of my who's back of the week for being church is also true love because I married a couple this weekend.
I got ordained as a minister.

Speaker 1 How is that not stealing valor? Yeah. What do you mean? Is that not stealing God's valor? No, I got officially ordained by a recognized church.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm a minister.

Speaker 1 I'm a literal minister now, Hank. How long was the course?

Speaker 1 The course? Yeah. Do you have to be celibate? No.
No, you don't have to. That's not a minister.

Speaker 1 You're thinking of priest. Okay, got it.
No, I'm the one that gets to fuck all the time. I'm probably going to fuck more.
Okay. Now that I'm a minister.
But so, yeah, I married a couple officially.

Speaker 1 Marries were forced in autumn. So I can marry anybody right now.
Actually, Hank and Bubba, you guys are married. Tuesday.
I declared it as a minister.

Speaker 1 Hank and Bubba are married. Okay, so

Speaker 1 the church is back. Go ahead.
If they have kids, are you the godfather? They don't have kids.

Speaker 1 No, when they have kids, or if they do have, well, they probably, if they got married to cannabis cup, I don't know if their libido is great. Well, yeah, probably not.

Speaker 1 Well, their libido might be okay, but their fertility might not be. Yeah, Mountain Dew and

Speaker 1 Foliage.

Speaker 1 That's forced people.

Speaker 1 All right, I had something similar, PFT.

Speaker 1 My who's back is Kanye's church. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's back, and people are very mad because he's profiting off his church, and I, for one, am disgusted that anyone would profit off religion ever. I can't believe that.
It's gross.

Speaker 1 The fact that Kanye thinks he can sell sweatshirts for his church, ugh.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine? That's terrible. Can you imagine if somebody got on TV as a minister and would just ask people to send them money and tell them, oh, you'll be happy if you buy our merchandise.

Speaker 1 You'll be closer to God. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or like, you know, having a religion and then owning a third of the world's world's land and tax-free and just making billions and billions of dollars. Gross.
That is gross.

Speaker 1 But Kanye, can't believe he did the sweatshirt, man. Take him to church.
I love when people got mad about that. It's like, uh, that's kind of the point of religion, to just make a shitload of money.

Speaker 1 No, it is.

Speaker 1 Kanye West is doing the exact right thing that you should do if you start a religion. And people just can't believe it because he's just doing it so blatantly.

Speaker 1 And they're like, oh, but usually it's supposed to be like eternal salvation and everything to hand away, you know, a tenth of your paycheck. Right.
That's what it is. It's 10%.
Yeah. It goes away.

Speaker 1 Do you want to get ordained too? And we can do, like, maybe on, like, annually on Grit Week, we can match it. How do I get ordained? You can just do it online.
Just type in.

Speaker 1 What if I get ordained and unordained you? You can't do that. You can't cancel it.
I think I can. No, you can't cancel it.
Yeah, you can. A minister.
No, there has to be a conclave. What if I have

Speaker 1 a Buddha? A conclave of cardinals has to meet up

Speaker 1 and say that they agree. No,

Speaker 1 I don't think I want to do that because I feel like the people that that we would marry, there would be a pretty high divorce rate. Probably.

Speaker 1 I mean, Hank and Bubba are already having problems. Yeah, they are.
They haven't looked eye to eye since you married them. Is it Spark gone, guys?

Speaker 1 No. How was Cannabis Cup? It was interesting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was quite a crowd. I'll put it that way.

Speaker 1 Buddha Ben was having the time of his life.

Speaker 1 He woke up early in the morning like a kid on Christmas, just waiting for people to come downstairs and meet him in the lobby. And Buddha Ben is not an early riser.
He's not a morning person.

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone at Cannabis Cup. When you say early, like everyone was getting up at like noon? No, he was up at like 8 a.m.
He was down in the lobby at 8 a.m.

Speaker 1 Even though we were going to meet down there at 9.30. Which time change is about noon.
Time change is about noon. But yeah, no, the cannabis cup was it was a very, very crazy scene.

Speaker 1 There's just a lot of ways to get high. There are a lot of ways.
Tons of ways. And so I talked to quite a few people out there about how weed is too good.

Speaker 1 Didn't get a lot of consensus built behind that, but one guy hopefully he explained to me, he goes, the problem is, man, you've been getting stoned this whole time. And I was like, yeah?

Speaker 1 And he goes, you should should be getting high. Yes.
I was like, wait, there's a difference. There's a difference.
Yeah. And so he taught me the difference.

Speaker 1 It's like the difference between hurt and injured. Yeah.
Being stoned and being high. Buzzed and drunk.
I have to now start getting high instead of getting stoned, and then I'll be good. Yes.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Also, it's just a big contest to see who can invent the most expensive way to get as humanly high as possible.
Wait, so it's an actual contest?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they give away awards for best strain and all that stuff. But the dab machine.

Speaker 1 Who were the judges? Oh, I don't know. I want to see.
I need the follow-up. The three remaining cottonmouth kings.

Speaker 1 I need the guys. I need a follow-up piece where they go back to wherever they came from with the trophy.
And

Speaker 1 is he the king of that town? Like, hey, I want best strain. King of the world, man.
2019.

Speaker 1 So the reason

Speaker 1 why we married. that couple was at the start, Pat says, here's a fun little fact.

Speaker 1 Any couple that got married today, it would be their 50th wedding anniversary on 42069 and then I was like if anybody out there wants to get married I'll get ordained during the show Thinking nobody would take us up on it Yep, and this couple just raised their hand They weren't even dating and so and they the guy at first was like uh And she was like we'll do it and Yeah, so their 50th anniversary is gonna be 42069.

Speaker 1 Something scaries for that guy. That'll be nice.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 just being like, oh, I got married this weekend. Yeah, waking up on the Sunday after that.
Well, I mean, they got married for zero dollars. It was the cheapest wedding of all time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they had a bunch of friends around.

Speaker 1 The funniest part was we sat down with this dude that had this big hydraulic press for making dabs.

Speaker 1 And I was like, why don't you just get a hair straightener at CVS, a Connor hair straightener, like Action Bronson does. He's like one of the top three dab makers in the entire world.

Speaker 1 That's what he does. That's how he makes it.
That's how he makes it. And the guy's like, well, I guess you could do that, but this one's $6,000.

Speaker 1 fuck oh man sounds like I mean it sounds exactly like I expected it I have one more who's back of the week and that's bat flip debates we just got stuck inside of who's back we did I like that backflip debates are back who's who is saying who do you think is is leading the challenge is Goose Gossage back nope okay I'll give you a hint he's been on the show and he does not play baseball anymore he he may have played in college but I don't think that he's not known for being a baseball player I don't know Danny Connell.

Speaker 1 Oh. See, okay.

Speaker 1 You should have guessed that.

Speaker 1 Here is, though, so he's obviously anti-bat flips. Yes.
He did play baseball.

Speaker 1 He actually was, I think he might have even been drafted

Speaker 1 in MLB. But I actually appreciate Danny Connell because I think we're at the point with bat flips where everyone universally loves them.

Speaker 1 So if we kill off all the anti-bat flippers, we're arguing against no one. Right.
And that's the worst place to be on the internet to be like, oh, this guy probably thinks the bat flip sucks.

Speaker 1 Like, well, you're talking about no one, dude. You're just making a straw man argument.
No one cares. You're fighting with your own shadow.

Speaker 1 Basically, it's been whittled down to the only people that care about bat flips are Danny Connell

Speaker 1 at Goose Gossage, and then the fans of the team that just got bat flipped against him. Yes.

Speaker 1 And possibly throw in maybe like a middle reliever from Texas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who's pissed off because he keeps getting homered off. Right.

Speaker 1 Danny says, the road we're headed down by encouraging bat flips is followed by pitchers fist pumping and acting a fool after every strikeout. Please don't.

Speaker 1 Then we've got everyone jumping around like idiots in the third inning. Who wants to see that? Damn.
Baseball could be fun. Great point, Danny.
Shit.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine if people celebrate it in football?

Speaker 1 Disgusting. So I'm actually appreciative of Danny Connell because we really do.
Like, they're a dying breed.

Speaker 1 The anti-bat flippers are a dying breed, and once they die off, we will basically just be arguing with no one. You know what we need to do? And we'll be a big fucking loser.

Speaker 1 We need to mate Danny Connell with somebody else to produce the next round of people that will stand up for the stake. stake.
Like, have him mate with Tomi Laron.

Speaker 1 I was going to say the Kennestate gun girl. That works too.
Either one of those.

Speaker 1 A threesome. Yep.

Speaker 1 And whoever gets pregnant first. Yep.
That is the one heir to the anti-bat flip community. He will sit on the Iron Throne.
The Prince who is promised. Yeah, the Prince who is promised.

Speaker 1 The Iron Throne is just made out of bats.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's get to our interview.
I teased it at the beginning. Nominee for interview of the year.
One of the funniest interviews we've ever done.

Speaker 1 Ike Taylor is a man with many stories, many one-liners. Fucking hilarious.
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Okay, here he is, two-time Super Bowl champion, Ike Taylor.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on two-time Super Bowl champion. Two times.
Two-time Super Bowl champion, Ike Taylor. Two more.

Speaker 1 Oh, you won four? No, I was saying two times. You want two more? Yeah.
Do you wear your rings? Not at all. Ever? Not at all.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's Ike Taylor from, formerly from the Pittsburgh Steelers, two-time Super Bowl champion. Where are your rings? At the house.
Okay. Can I just say that it's really one and a half rings?

Speaker 1 Why got to be one and a half rings? Because the refs got the other half of the ring in the Seahawks Super Bowl. No, not at all.
And also

Speaker 1 that fumble by Bettis against the Colts. That was pretty lucky.
Right, but that wasn't our fault that we won. Yeah, were you going to be able to do that?

Speaker 1 You tatered Jackie Marlar. You should give that to Vanderti.
You're bringing up one and a quarter

Speaker 1 from the Colts. Yeah, one and a quarter is really what it should be.
Boy, y'all hard on the pimp.

Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question. When that play happens, when Bettis fumbles, were you watching it or were you like looking up or were you looking at the field?

Speaker 1 Man, I was talking smack to Edwin James' family. Edgar and James' family was sitting right behind us, and I was talking cash money to his family.
So they told me, shut the F up, look.

Speaker 1 Bussy just fumbled, and I looked, and I'm like, dang, I got to get my helmet and get back on the field. So you can tell Dick LeBeau was just like our defense coordinator at the time.

Speaker 1 He was just like in awe. And we sitting on a field like, hey, Dickie, give us the call.
Give us the call. And he snapped out of it.

Speaker 1 And James Ferrell was just like, he brought the call to the sideline. Not to the sideline, but on the field.
And we took off from there. But at the time when Bussy fumbled, I was talking smack

Speaker 1 to EJ Reginald James people in the stands. And when they told me, I thought they was playing.
But then the crowd just like erupted. Right.
And I was like, oh, man, it's time to play.

Speaker 1 And were you all in the field for Vander Jack's field goal that missed? Yes, I was. You were.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 we froze him, and he looked over at the sideline like,

Speaker 1 that ain't going to freeze me. Yeah, he was one of the best segments.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was like a little too cocky, too. You know, he used to keep a dollar bill underneath his wrist guard because that was to remind himself that he was money.

Speaker 1 That's when you know your kicker's trying a little bit too hard.

Speaker 1 Which I do like the confidence, though. I like it.

Speaker 1 Because you've got to understand.

Speaker 1 It's hard.

Speaker 1 It's hard. That's like being a closer in baseball.

Speaker 1 You're not coming in for six, seven innings. You're coming in to close.

Speaker 1 And if you're a good closer, you're going to get paid. If you ain't a good closer, and I'm sure with this New York media, if you're not a good closer, boy, you're going to catch hell.

Speaker 1 Thank you for respecting the New York media. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So Vanderjack looks over and he's like, he's trying to talk himself up, or could you tell that he was a little bit shaky? Nah, he was just like,

Speaker 1 he was just like looking. And at the time, we had some straight roughnecks on our team.
So while he looking, we all giving him the blues. We cursing him out.

Speaker 1 He looking, but the look turned into like some confidence to like,

Speaker 1 oh, snap, they really gonna whoop my ass if I make this fill go on.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 froze him, came back, the rest is history. Yeah, the rest is history.
Then the Seahawks, then the refs helped you in the Seahawks Super Bowl. Not at all.
One and a quarter.

Speaker 1 Doing that. Listen,

Speaker 1 Chris Hope sold that. He sold that shit.
That wasn't passing affairs. That stint.

Speaker 1 We played the number one offensive teams that year, four. It was five.
We played four of them. That's actually crazy.

Speaker 1 That defense was pretty damn good. You couldn't tell us nothing.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you won a Super Bowl when Big Ben, I think, had the lowest rating of a quarterback of all time in Super Bowl history.

Speaker 1 You couldn't tell us nothing. Antoine Randalel was your best quarterback.

Speaker 1 That

Speaker 1 was after that Super Bowl got paid, too. He did.
Yeah, Dan Snyder broke out. He backed up the drinks truck for him.

Speaker 1 How much is a defense having that type of swagger where it's like every guy feels like they're

Speaker 1 bringing something to the table? And can you tell, because you obviously played for a long time. Can you tell when your defense has that extra level of swagger that's like,

Speaker 1 we got playmakers versus we got some good talented guys. It was really that us against the world mentality.

Speaker 1 Like, it was really that us against the world. Really, like, it was the unselfish, us against the world

Speaker 1 mentality. It's also probably pretty badass to be, you know,

Speaker 1 the colors of the Steelers. I feel like every time you put them on, you probably feel like...

Speaker 1 Till this day, I feel pretty good right now. I'm wearing yellow and black, and I feel like

Speaker 1 I got out of the bag with a little extra swag this morning.

Speaker 1 You can probably tell.

Speaker 1 us,

Speaker 1 Pele, and Ali. Yeah, so it's just, but that's how we felt.
Like, and we did everything together. We did everything.
Like, to this day, I'm still in the 20-something-man group text in that Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Till this day, a 20-something-man group man

Speaker 1 text,

Speaker 1 and it's just our kids call each other uncle, like Uncle Troy, Uncle Ike, Uncle Chris Hope, Uncle Joey Porter, Uncle Casey Hampton, Joey. Like, it's just, it's just everything is uncle.

Speaker 1 But one thing I did like about, you know, Coach Cowell and Coach Tomley, man, it's just he let our sons run around in that locker room. That's cool.
Which was huge because my son to this day, he's 12.

Speaker 1 He still understands and remembers what was going on. Like, hey, man, because my son played football.
Like, why you be trying to run through these boys? He was like.

Speaker 1 Uncle James Harrison told me to take the soul out. That's a bad thing.
Yeah, he was like, Uncle James Harrison told me to take the soul out of these kids.

Speaker 1 At 12. Yeah, so they can come in the locker room as long as you don't Instagram live or Facebook live while coaching.

Speaker 1 You can just see James Harrison sitting there sundown and just being like, hey, listen. And dead serious.
I want you to take the soul out of these kids. And dead serious.

Speaker 1 Debo was dead serious. Like, hey, man, come here.
Come here, little Ivan. That's my son's name.
He'll come over there. He'd be like, yes, sir.
You play football?

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. You any good? Well, I'm just starting.
When you hit them, make sure you take the soul out of them, okay?

Speaker 1 That's so funny. That's great.
So, wait, back up for a second. You said you're in a 20-person group text? Yeah, to this day.
That's insane. So, we got the 09 and we have the 2005.

Speaker 1 So, it's like two different group texts. My battery be running dead so fast.
I was about to say,

Speaker 1 who sends the most text in those groups?

Speaker 1 Tyrone Carter.

Speaker 1 So, Tyrone Carter,

Speaker 1 he got little.

Speaker 1 I ain't going to say that. Tyrone Carter wasn't too tall for his position.
He played safety. Okay.
But he was like five.

Speaker 1 He probably said he liked 5'9, but he really liked 5'5.

Speaker 1 Nobody would say dude.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 5'9 guy's 5'9. No, no, he's actually 5'9.
So he's from Palmer. You were about to say little man syndrome.
I'll say it for you.

Speaker 1 It's not a real thing. It's like we're just normal people.
Like, I'm not that little. We're actually average size for 5'9.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Thank you for not saying that, though.

Speaker 1 But for football to to play safety in the NFL, that's kind of not tall. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's kind of not tall.
That's not tall in real life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's totally normal in real life. Yeah, that's kind of not tall.
NFL.

Speaker 1 It's short in real life. So

Speaker 1 he's from Pompano Beach, Florida.

Speaker 1 Went to Minnesota. Thorpe Award winner.
Thorpe Award winner.

Speaker 1 So for the people who don't know what the Thorpe Award winner is, it's the best secondary guy in the world in college.

Speaker 1 That was TC,

Speaker 1 aka Firestarter. We used to call him Firestarter because anything you said, it just pissed him off.
Like, man, I just said you had a good day. F, you, young mean it.

Speaker 1 What you're describing is perfectly average-sized man syndrome. That is totally normal for a guy who's 5'7,

Speaker 1 5'9.

Speaker 1 He's still in the Flintstone day, so he's just coming into 2019. So now he's new to social media.
Oh.

Speaker 1 And he puts out any like TC, like,

Speaker 1 don't show a group of guys what you're cooking.

Speaker 1 Like, don't nobody want to see

Speaker 1 what you're cooking. Right.
Because he has a kennel of dogs. TC, don't nobody want to see you clean up your kennel of dog poop.
Right. Come on, man.
Right. With not poop.
Show us the cute dogs.

Speaker 1 But that's TC.

Speaker 1 He's so far behind. Yeah.
I'm talking about 19 years behind. So far behind.
Good dude, he'd just be doing too much. Yeah, so he's the one that blows blows your phone up

Speaker 1 everybody yeah basically so um i was reading your wikipedia earlier uh-huh i think you're the fastest person to ever appear on part of my take probably one of them

Speaker 1 by the 40 chris johnson

Speaker 1 so you but you actually were timed in 4.18 seconds for the 40 yard dash

Speaker 1 that sounds like some louisiana

Speaker 1 427 was my fastest time okay so the pro day one that was just like that was your coaches being like yeah you totally

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was probably

Speaker 1 somebody probably was asleep. Okay.
So I woke up and was like, oh, 4-1, what? Yeah, that's really fast.

Speaker 1 So I heard that you used to train,

Speaker 1 you used to train your quickness in a very unusual way. You used to chase animals around.

Speaker 1 Man, my uncle was old school.

Speaker 1 And I didn't know that that was kind of the norm

Speaker 1 in Florida. Like, the boys go in the fields and they really chase rabbits.
Like, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 Like, I was just doing that because my uncle was like, man, this will get you better and faster and quicker. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I was just doing that just because, because I always had that drive of good work ethic. But you go down in Florida where Fred Taylor is from, where Santonio Holmes is from.
They call it Muck City.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Muck City, Florida.
That's what them boys really do. Yeah.
Them boys really chase rabbits. They run into that high grass corruption

Speaker 1 and they get to chasing. Yeah.
Makes you quick, right? I mean, it's all mental.

Speaker 1 have you ever caught a rabbit no i got close you know it's it's it's the ski skirt they got the ski skirt like i'm not built if you get me straight ahead i'm good but the the ski skirt right

Speaker 1 so you touched one you ever touched one like a flag football you get them down on flag football with a rabbit yeah no i mean i touched a human being in flag football no but i'm saying like if you've gotten that close where you've like

Speaker 1 i've gotten i've gotten real close and got nervous yeah because what are you gonna do what do you do when you're gonna catch I'm going to catch the rabbit, then what?

Speaker 1 The dog chasing the car, and then they finally get it. Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 We got to ask

Speaker 1 all the drama that's going around the Steelers right now. Where have you landed on all that stuff?

Speaker 1 I was saying earlier, it needs to get more to a weed than to me thing.

Speaker 1 Like, the reason why we were winning Super Bowls, because it was what we were doing. Right.
It wasn't, this is what I'm doing. This is my show.

Speaker 1 And I've just learned that from the old guys back in the 70s, they just coming. The Lin Swans, the Star Wars, Franco Harris, Meryl Blunt.
It's a lot of

Speaker 1 Lynn Swan messed around and been a politician. Now he's the AD from USC.
Right, right. Like, and Merl Blunt

Speaker 1 probably got 100 acres in Pittsburgh. Right.
Franco Harris is a living legend. Rocky, he's finally coming back.

Speaker 1 Like, it's a lot of the old school guys who just sat in Pittsburgh after winning Super Bowls and you're a lifetime scholarship you're on lifetime scholarship when you win Super Bowls in Pittsburgh lifetime right lifetime you're set up in Pittsburgh set up for life so but it was what we doing right

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 we love the tradition they had back in the early 2000s so they fell let's make it to what We doing. Right.
And then we turn into winning, going to playoffs, going to playoffs, winning Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 And we always used to tell each other, when you win, everybody get paid. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you win, when you win, everybody gets paid.

Speaker 1 It's a good point because now you see, you know, obviously there's a lot more money to be made right now than there was back in the 70s, right? Correct. So I think rightfully so.

Speaker 1 Players like Le'Veon Bell sometimes look at their bottom line and they're like, hey. you know, I got to maximize my value as a running back while I can.
And they get it, and I understand that.

Speaker 1 But what you guys did, so when you played, you know, there was still a lot of money at stake. Right.
So,

Speaker 1 how did that team balance the fact of like, we want to all get paid, we have a limited time to make our money with the fact that we want to keep this tradition going? How did that balance play out?

Speaker 1 Troy. Well,

Speaker 1 I'm going to start off with

Speaker 1 the Rooney family. Yeah.
I feel like that's been a part of the change, too. You know, obviously

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 1 stayed away, right?

Speaker 1 Meaning Dan Rooney. Right.
And it feels like that was right around the time where the Steelers not have lost lost their way, but it's definitely changed a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of things that's going on now. Paul Paul Rooney wouldn't have had that.
Right.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 it wasn't going to happen. He wasn't standing for it.
Right. Mr.
Artis,

Speaker 1 much more of a

Speaker 1 businessman, business savvy, lawyer, lawyer, so all that good stuff. I mean, the Rooney family, just, from my perspective, they set the standard.
They set the standard.

Speaker 1 But getting to the player's standpoint, like, Troy set the standard in the locker room. Like, I tell people this all the time.
Before OBJ

Speaker 1 was a, you know, OBJ is an international rock star.

Speaker 1 He just so happened to play football. Like, everybody wanted to be around OBJ from rappers to artists.
You can just, like, women just want to be in his presence, OBJ.

Speaker 1 If Troy wanted to be like that,

Speaker 1 Troy could have been like that. Like, we always felt we were the Jackson 5 and Troy was Michael Jackson.
Like, we just knew our role. We just knew how special he was.

Speaker 1 But he set the tone in the locker room into being humble, what we doing,

Speaker 1 far from materialistic.

Speaker 1 The man just got paid. First of all, he's a first-rounder.
But the man just got paid on the second contract, right?

Speaker 1 Still wearing Velcro shoes.

Speaker 1 Like, bro, you know, you got like $40 million, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And?

Speaker 1 But that was just Troy, right? He didn't care nothing about being materialistic. No cars, no nothing.
He didn't want anything to do with being fancy. He wanted to be in the background.
Right, right.

Speaker 1 So when you got a superstar like that, everybody else in the locker room got to fall in line. Yeah.
Because it's one of the guys making the most money and not being materialistic.

Speaker 1 So now it's like, dang, when I get my money, man, I wanted to get that goddamn Lambo, but I think I'm gonna get it but I'm gonna bring it home wherever I'm from but when I'm in Pittsburgh I'm just gonna drive a four F-150 right

Speaker 1 like he he set the tempo you didn't even know it but he set the tempo I can understand so you show up to practice or you show up to the facility and you've got a much nicer car than the best player on your team you feel kind of like an asshole right oh yeah

Speaker 1 100% like hey man You don't have to do that. Like, you come to work.

Speaker 1 Like, if you want to do that when you go home, wherever you're from, you want to have your fancy cars cool but for me and I think I can just speak for everybody at the time TP Troy he kind of just said that that mode so him being the leader said that standard off the field right off the field so you can imagine now

Speaker 1 somebody getting paid and they coming up in the Rolls Royce like we thought that was too much like if you had a Rolls Royce in Pittsburgh as a player we thought you was doing too much yeah you stand out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you had a Lambo in Pittsburgh. It's Blue Collar City.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 we thought you was doing too much. And Casey Hampton, our defensive tackle, he told me something when I was a rookie.
He was like, blend in with your city.

Speaker 1 Don't stand out. Blend in with your city.
And I understood at that moment what he was talking about, like, hey, man, don't be extravagant. Save that.

Speaker 1 If you go to Miami and California or wherever you're from, but blend in with the city. That's good advice.
That's That's good advice. What about Ben?

Speaker 1 He's obviously come under some heat as being not a great leader.

Speaker 1 Richard Mendehal said that he was racist and well-known. What was your relationship with Ben? And do you think he...

Speaker 1 What type of leader was Ben in the locker room?

Speaker 1 A lot of confidence.

Speaker 1 This is what people don't understand about 7. 7 can do a lot of things.
I like how you do that, 7. Yeah, 7, I mean, because 7 and I, we were shuffleboard champions in the locker room.

Speaker 1 That was my teammate.

Speaker 1 We still hold the belt.

Speaker 1 But Seven just,

Speaker 1 if you ask Seven to play one-on-one, pick up basketball, he's going to smoke you.

Speaker 1 If you ask him to play ping pong, he's going to smoke you.

Speaker 1 If you ask him to play

Speaker 1 golf, they say he's a scratch golfer. He's going to smoke you.

Speaker 1 He just so happened to be good at football as a quarterback in the NFL. I think that's going on year 16.

Speaker 1 So Seven can do it all.

Speaker 1 He's one of the few that can do it all. You know, some guys like, okay, you're only just a football player.
Right.

Speaker 1 Seven can play any sport he wants to play and be good at it. But Seven kind of understood a noun,

Speaker 1 I had no beef with seven whatsoever. Playing for seven on offense, if you're a receiver or running back, could be a little bit different.

Speaker 1 But on the defensive side, there's no beef at all.

Speaker 1 So I didn't did a few sit-downs with seven, and seven used it on sit-down with too many people right if you terry bradshaw after they made a mess yeah if if he don't mess with you he ain't messing with it there's no faking right with seven if i ain't messing with you i'm not messing with you ain't no gray area yeah but um just one

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 i'm so petty

Speaker 1 yeah no it's a good point because i think there's it's it in today's uh like with social media and everything i think that everyone views these teams and like everyone's best friends because you see it a lot you know you'll see everyone posting pictures with each other and everything.

Speaker 1 When a lot of times, a locker room, a football locker room is a lot of fucking people. Right.
And there's not, not everyone's going to get along. That's 53 alphas.
Right.

Speaker 1 So you got 53 gorillas in the locker room. Boy, that's a lot of testosterone.

Speaker 1 So you can only imagine every blue moon, that locker room is going to get torn up from either somebody fight, well, really, it's going to get torn up from fighting, period. Yeah.
Period.

Speaker 1 That's just how it was. You knuckle up, you put the boxing gloves on.
We'll shake hands afterwards. Who do you fight? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man, so many.

Speaker 1 Man, like, for real, like, it got to a point where Mr.

Speaker 1 and this was

Speaker 1 in a locker room and off field. It got to a point where Paul Paul Rooney, Mr.
Dan at the time, and Kevin Coba, they sat me down. I was like, hey, bro, you do it again.
We got to let you go. Really?

Speaker 1 So who were you fighting with? Just a little bit of... And coming from New Orleans, it was like at the time, eye contact could get your natural beef.

Speaker 1 So it's like, if I didn't know you, what a line, what a line.

Speaker 1 If I didn't know you and you look at me, me and you walking in two different directions, bro. That's why I wear the shirts.
So if I didn't know you and you didn't know me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we kind of have beef right now. We're fighting on site.

Speaker 1 You just gave me that look. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Stop looking at him, big cat. We fighting.
We fighting on site. We good.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But that's how, and I brought that mentality to Pittsburgh, not knowing the position I was in. Like, bro, you're a professional.
Like,

Speaker 1 you got to stop. So

Speaker 1 they sat me down one time, and I looked in their eyes, and I was like, dang. And then I was just thinking and reflecting, like, damn, I'm in a good situation to take care of my mom, my family.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't mess this up. Right.
So I just flip switch and kind of turn everything.

Speaker 1 But that's also a good point. It feels like the Le'Veon Bell Antonio Brown situation escalated where no one sat them down and was like, hey, we got a good thing going on.
What are we doing here?

Speaker 1 Now, people can say what they want to say. The locker room was in the locker room until Le'Veon left.
Like, Le'Veon is the mediator of every,

Speaker 1 he's somebody you want to have

Speaker 1 in that locker room. Le'Veon is somebody you want to have.
So, his absence, you think, helps accelerate the internal ground stuff? 100%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Le'Veon, super competitive.

Speaker 1 Like, when Le'Veon first came to Pittsburgh, not his first year, but his second year, my body fat was like

Speaker 1 3.2. And it was like, oh, somebody got you this year.
And I'm like, who? Le'Vion? I said, Le'Veon, who? Le'Veon. I said, what's that? It's 2.7.

Speaker 1 That's... He's dead.
Same. He's dead if it's 2.9.
Nah, not at all. You know what mine is? What? Bleep this out, Hank, because I don't want it going over

Speaker 1 33%. Okay.
I mean, mine's probably 45%.

Speaker 1 You don't have to bleed 35%.

Speaker 1 So explain to me the mentality about punching a dude while he's wearing a helmet.

Speaker 1 You don't be thinking. You just don't think about it.

Speaker 1 You're just pissed. Yeah, it's just, I've done that too many times.

Speaker 1 Too many times.

Speaker 1 And they, bro, like, what you doing? Like, you ain't doing nothing. You're going to break your hand.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but at the time, you just don't be thinking, man.

Speaker 1 When you're in the heat of the moment,

Speaker 1 you don't think at all. How many times did Bill Cower accidentally spit on you? I feel like he spits a lot when he talks.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 ain't no telling. Coach Cowell, ain't no telling, man.
Coach Cowell was

Speaker 1 a player's coach. Like, they said he was hard as a coach to work with, but a player's coach? So, all this dressing up, going to the airport, showing up in suits,

Speaker 1 Coach Kyle was like, hell no, like, we're going to kick ass and come back home. So, y'all don't need to, y'all don't need to dress up.
Right.

Speaker 1 Now, just make sure your pants ain't sagging and you look presentable. But dressing up,

Speaker 1 flip-flops,

Speaker 1 wife beaters,

Speaker 1 tank tops,

Speaker 1 pajamas. Troy Palomalo's Velcro shoes.
Velcro.

Speaker 1 Big Ben carrying a big sack out of P.F. Changs.

Speaker 1 Coach didn't care nothing about that. And what about Tomlin versus Coward? Like, what was the change like? The change was a little bit, you know,

Speaker 1 business-like. Yeah.
You know, that was Coach T a little bit more business-like. So two different coaches, same goal, but the personalities were different.

Speaker 1 Don't get me wrong, Coach T is another player.

Speaker 1 He's an all-the-way player's coach, right? Like, maybe sometimes too much. That's the criticism.
100%. Like, he's he's gonna let you be you, right? Like, Coach T gonna let you be you.

Speaker 1 He's not putting a leash. Far as like personalities,

Speaker 1 he ain't putting not one leash on your personality. Let you be you.

Speaker 1 That's Coach T. Coach Cowell was like, when it came to personalities, he did let you know, like,

Speaker 1 I'm gonna let y'all be all, but I'm still alpha. Right, right.
I still run the show. Right, right.
I want you to walk me through something real quick.

Speaker 1 Seven, this is about Big Ben. There was a press conference he did after one of your games where he got dressed up in my all-time favorite quarterback outfit.
What is that? Let's take a look at this.

Speaker 1 He's looking older. He looks like a Tracy.
Yeah, Dick Tracy.

Speaker 1 The fedora down over his face. Dick Tracy takes a Tommy gun and shoots him full of bullets.
He looks like Carrillo DeVille's lawyer, is the best way I can put it.

Speaker 1 I love Seven, but

Speaker 1 Seven needs to come holler at me when he wants to dress up. Yeah, he doesn't have a lot of swag.
He was trying already.

Speaker 1 He was a little swagless. When it comes down to dressing up, man, he needs to get his suits a little bit more tailored.

Speaker 1 Do you think, does Seven, can I call him Seven, or is that only a player's can call him Seven? Yeah, just call him Big Ben. I can call him.
All right, okay, I'll call him Big Ben.

Speaker 1 Does Big Ben does he ever, I don't want to say fake injuries, but sometimes the injuries seem more severe than they actually are. Like a dog walking on a cold sidewalk and it yelps.

Speaker 1 It's like, come on, you're fine, dog.

Speaker 1 Anything like that? Am I explaining it well?

Speaker 1 You're explaining it too well. He's tough as hell.

Speaker 1 There's no other quarterback in the league

Speaker 1 can play.

Speaker 1 in Pittsburgh the way Seven

Speaker 1 have played. Now, it's a lot of injuries.
seven shouldn't have played. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he's just a tough, that's what makes seven seven. Just a tough son of a gun.
And it's probably a lot of other injuries that

Speaker 1 seven, man. Come on, man.
Stop all that beat. He got the walking boot on.
Like, seven, like, real, like,

Speaker 1 that's the road we're going down.

Speaker 1 That's what we're doing today.

Speaker 1 That's what we're doing today, seven. Like, we, like,

Speaker 1 so you're going to have the boot on on Monday,

Speaker 1 but Tuesday, you're going to be all good. Yeah.
Yeah. It's just going to be all all strapped up with seven ice packs.
Put the boot on around like the Michelin man.

Speaker 1 When the boot goes on, you're not nervous. I am.

Speaker 1 Because you know it's coming off in a day.

Speaker 1 It's been. Then please.
I got a camera. Yeah.
Seven. I got you.

Speaker 1 It's been plenty of times where

Speaker 1 he haven't said anything and you'll be like, damn, how did he play with that injury?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it's been a few times where he's said something.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He used to always show that graphic of him after like five that would show like the human body, and every single part of it had like red lines of pain shooting out. It would be like, here's an injury.

Speaker 1 His whole body was like banged up. But that's a little bit of a 65.
But we all knew and understood. Could nobody play

Speaker 1 that position in Pittsburgh like seven but seven? We're going to be very sad when he retires because he's he's a funny one. Oh, yeah, we kill him.
Because he makes football fun. 100%.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to hear a little bit about the Raven Steelers rivalry because a little birdie named Dave Damchek told me

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 you've gotten into it a few times. You and Joey both have gotten into it a few times with T.
Sizzle and Ray Lewis. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 you know we hate him. Can I curse someone else? Yeah, you can say whatever you want.

Speaker 1 But there might be 12-year-old football players listening. Oh, man, they got to understand, Coach Ignat coaching right now.
Yeah, that's true. So, like, it's a mutual understanding.

Speaker 1 Like, Pittsburgh hate the fucking Ravens, and the Ravens hate fucking Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 That's the agreement. Like, you hate me, yeah, I hate you.
I hate you too. Cool.

Speaker 1 We good.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, one time time it was just, you know, T-Sizzle,

Speaker 1 he was getting after me. Like, it was doing commercial.

Speaker 1 That's when I was going up against Derek Mason, the wide receiver. Savvy, savvy receiver.
Savvy. He was Antonio Brown, but slower.

Speaker 1 Like, running routes, he made all his routes look the same.

Speaker 1 D-Mace was just smooth. So T-Sizzle.
I remember it was T-Sizzle, Ed Reed. Shout out to my dog, Ed Reed, because we from the same city.
Air Reed and Ray Ray, them boys on the sidelines.

Speaker 1 T Sizzle just, you know, 2-4, you know, we coming at you, 2-4, boy. You're going to have a long day, 2-4.
Like, yeah, I'm talking to you. Get your stuff up.
And I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm like, bro, I say, bro, you.

Speaker 1 I say, you know they only like you, they, as women. You know they only like you because you play football, right?

Speaker 1 That's going to hurt them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, bro, you just got a face only a mother could look.

Speaker 1 Right. It's facts.
That's facts. That's what I told him.
You can get mad all you want to. Like, you can say how much money you got.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't care nothing about that because I know if me and you was on the same page and we started off at the bottom, I'm going to get the girls.

Speaker 1 I'm still going to get them anyway, but I'm going to get the girls. But he just, he was getting on my nerves on his sideline.
Shout out to T-Sissle, man. You still a dog.

Speaker 1 You're still a dog playing that

Speaker 1 defensive end outside linebacker. But yeah, he was getting on my nerves with that.
Yeah, that's just how it was. Like, I didn't care.
It made football great. NFC, the old NFC North rivalries.

Speaker 1 I mean, I say old, but they're still going on. But like when the Ravens and the Steelers played, you knew it was going to be hard hits and guys taking it to the limit.

Speaker 1 You knew you was going to be sore

Speaker 1 going into the following game.

Speaker 1 Like, your mindset, like, you can take a look at the game. You can

Speaker 1 guys,

Speaker 1 hey, this is the kind of game it's going to be. But

Speaker 1 you can actually hear it on the field. Like,

Speaker 1 okay, we're playing the Ravens. For really? Different from any other team.
Well, Jacksonville. At the time, Jacksonville.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but what?

Speaker 1 Jacksonville and the Ravens at the time, when they had Fred T, Byron Lefwich, and all them boys. MJD, right? MJD, my dope.

Speaker 1 Did he ever block it?

Speaker 1 Did you ever blitz on the Jaguars? Because he could hit, right?

Speaker 1 So I thought, okay,

Speaker 1 let's get the MJD.

Speaker 1 MJD,

Speaker 1 red zone, coming out the backfield.

Speaker 1 He catches a pass coming out the backfield. Now his back is turned towards me.
I see it because I'm in zone coverage and I'm saying to my head, ooh, I'm about to light his ass

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 as soon as he turn around and he see me and his eyes get big and I ain't nothing but a step away from him eyes get big

Speaker 1 and I come up and I hit him

Speaker 1 and my body told me boy what you doing

Speaker 1 this is a grown little man yeah this is a grown little man

Speaker 1 he lift a lot of weights his body feel like lead Now I'm going on slide down him. And I slid all the way down him, all the way down to his thick ass ankle

Speaker 1 so basically I hit him as hard as I can at the right time the perfect moment you can ask any defender as soon as somebody turn around and you right there to smack him in the face or we call it FaceTime give him a kiss yeah my Wi-Fi wasn't working yeah anytime you can do that and you slide down a person that just let me know how strong he was like

Speaker 1 Dang, that was the perfect opportunity. And he just shook a little bit.
Just like, bam, shrugged you off. Yeah, like that's all you got?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I just held on to dear life and for help, and everybody. The cavalry came.
He's like 5'6 ⁇ , and like 220 pounds. Solid, stout, big, stout.

Speaker 1 All right, I got one last question. SeatGeek question: Put in promo code take, you get $10 off your SeatGeek purchase.

Speaker 1 You were a fourth-round pick. Correct.
I think the idiot Mark Madden said that you were the worst pick that Kevin Colbert ever made. I still got that on my refrigerator.
Yep.

Speaker 1 What was it like, though, going from a fourth-rounder, like to a small school, to the Steelers and the process of trying to earn your spot and prove to everyone that you can stay?

Speaker 1 I've been doing it all my life. So I played, I walked on.
I was a walk-on. Yep.
So I was a walk-on, played running back my junior year. My first two years, I was.
What were your stats?

Speaker 1 I had like 400-something yards for running back. But I barely had carriage.
Yeah. Barely.
First two years of college, knucklehead, getting in trouble fighting. Like, then my mama called me one day.

Speaker 1 She, she,

Speaker 1 this, this, which, this, what changed it. My mama called me one day because all my grades was going to my mom.
So I didn't know that. So she called me one day crying.
Was like,

Speaker 1 tell me what I did wrong as a parent. Oh,

Speaker 1 that's a heavy line. That's a heavy line.
I broke down. Yeah.
Like when she called and told me that, I'm like, dang, single mom, three kids, all the sacrifices. I'm taking this for granted.

Speaker 1 Sheesh.

Speaker 1 So she, once she told me that,

Speaker 1 hung up, I said she would never call me with that again.

Speaker 1 That's what I told myself. Like, I told myself from here on out, I'm going to make sure this woman don't ever work a day in her life.

Speaker 1 That's what I told myself. Yeah.
Because hearing that coming from mom and seeing all the sacrifices,

Speaker 1 it cut me deep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that'll change me. File that one away, big cat.
That's going to be a good heavening technique to me. Man,

Speaker 1 that cut me deep. That cut me deep.
So

Speaker 1 that changed my life.

Speaker 1 Then I switched over to a cornerback, my senior, and the reason why, because

Speaker 1 my DB coach, you know, at the time, he was like, hey, you're not really playing as a running back, but every time I'm going to put you on special teams, you're hitting.

Speaker 1 And you're pretty fast. And at the time, Charles Tillman, a.k.a.
Peanut.

Speaker 1 He was on the other side. Now, Pitcher, I was the shortest DB because we had two other safeties that are 6'3, 6'4.
We had the top five secondary in college at the time.

Speaker 1 I was the most inexperienced guy, the shortest guy, but that was tall. But he was like, I think you have a pretty good shot if you come over.
So I went over, played cornerback for that one year.

Speaker 1 I wasn't invited to the combine, but I did go to the Hula Bowl. I went to the Hula Bowl at the time.
I don't don't know if they do that now, but the hula bowl. I don't think they do that now.

Speaker 1 They stopped doing it. Yeah, I went to the hula bowl, showed out at the hula bowl, and made, I had 27 visits

Speaker 1 in a month time. So I flew to 2017.
27 or the 32. 2017

Speaker 1 in a month. So I was up and down.
Yeah. Up and down.
Did that.

Speaker 1 Draft time come, I actually thought the Redskins was going to get me because they just just called me.

Speaker 1 That would have been way too smart for that team. They was like, hey, we bought the scoop you, but little did I know, Pittsburgh was two slots, two or three slots in front of them.

Speaker 1 So the Redskins called me, I'm like, and at the time, I'm playing the game. I'm playing Madden.
Because I didn't think I was going to get drafted.

Speaker 1 I thought I was going to have to go through, you know,

Speaker 1 undrafted for

Speaker 1 the whole week. And I understood that.

Speaker 1 And I understood why.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. But

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh, Coach T called me, not Coach T, Coach Kyle was like,

Speaker 1 you ready to be a Pittsburgh Steeler?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, what? He was like, you ready to be a Pittsburgh Steeler?

Speaker 1 We about to draft you.

Speaker 1 And I'm like,

Speaker 1 damn.

Speaker 1 First of all, I'm getting drafted. Second of all, I'm about to be a Pittsburgh Steeler.
Because I was still watching the draft. They gave up a few draft picks for Troy at the time.

Speaker 1 It was Alonzo. Alonso played defensive in Florida State.
Brian St. Pierre played quarterback for Boston College.
Me and JT Wall.

Speaker 1 So that whole draft class, I think it was just five guys that whole draft class. Only because they reached up to get Troy, which they made.

Speaker 1 That was a smart move. Very smart.
Very nice pick, Cowa. But

Speaker 1 I've been behind the A-ball my whole life. So when I get to Pittsburgh, they draft two second-round corners after me.

Speaker 1 So I'm still fighting. Right.
So now after the

Speaker 1 second round draft

Speaker 1 pick corner-wise, everybody looking at me like, who the eye man out? Right. Like, Danny only played cornerback for one year.
Like, we got a talented Ricardo Coakley.

Speaker 1 Now, in my opinion, in my opinion, Ricardo Coakley could have been the best.

Speaker 1 The best corner in the league, in my opinion. You get Brian McFadden from Florida State.

Speaker 1 So, B Mac,

Speaker 1 at the time, Michigan wanted B Mac and B Mac. The only jersey they retired was Charles Woodson from Michigan.
If B-Mac would have gone to Michigan, C.

Speaker 1 Wood was taking his jersey out so B-Mac can wear it.

Speaker 1 That's how good. B-Mac was ranked number one at cornerback when he came out.

Speaker 1 So I got those two guys, plus little old me, like, okay, you only play for one year, no experience, you gone.

Speaker 1 That offseason,

Speaker 1 I had it on my mind.

Speaker 1 I said,

Speaker 1 not today.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 somebody going to be gone. It ain't going to be me.
Came back in the training camp. Dickie and my teammates was like,

Speaker 1 he the one.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 he the one. Like,

Speaker 1 this dude,

Speaker 1 we don't know what happened. We don't know what transpired over the offseason.
But,

Speaker 1 yeah, he the one.

Speaker 1 He the one, and it and it changed. So when I seen him, Mark Madden, that really motivated me, like, hey, bro, what you saying? Like, I've been going through this

Speaker 1 all my life, man. All I know is my back against the wall.
Yeah, you can't hurt me like my mom hurt me. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Mark Madden doesn't really matter when your mom calls and says what I do wrong as a parent.

Speaker 1 Mama called me that and told me that, like, boo-hoo crime. Yeah.
Boo-hoo crime. And I'm thinking something happened.

Speaker 1 Little did I know, all my grades was going to it. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 So if your grades, if you had just figured out that to get your grades to your dorm room, you might not even be sitting here right now. Ever.
Yeah. Ever.

Speaker 1 Or if you had gotten better grades, you wouldn't be sitting here right now, maybe. No, that's probably the first one.

Speaker 1 Also, if Mark Madden is criticizing your athletic ability, I think you're probably doing something right because

Speaker 1 he's not exactly what I call physical. He's going to live very long.
Yes. Right.

Speaker 1 He just got into it with East Anderson. And that's what he does.
That's what he does. He disappeared with everybody else.
He He's doing us. Yeah.
Hell yeah. Why? For no reason.

Speaker 1 Because we're in such better shape than he is. Yeah.
100%. 33% body fat right here.
He's like 70%. Now you go, keep going.
Go up. 85.
Probably, yeah. 95.
He actually has a great.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't want to give him too much publicity or airtime, but if you look at his Google image search, if you type in Mark Madden, it's just him wearing Tommy Bahama Hawaiian shirts.

Speaker 1 Or wrestling matches. It's pretty cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is enough about him. Yeah, enough about that guy.

Speaker 1 We talked about the Mike Vanderjack episode. We talked about the Jerome Bettis fumble.
We talked about the Super Bowl. You've accomplished a lot of things.

Speaker 1 I do need to ask you about Tebow Mania and that play against. Well, Tebow didn't beat you as much as possible.
As Tamarius Thomas did, right? It wasn't Tebow. It was DT.
Like,

Speaker 1 DT gave me a mean ass diff.

Speaker 1 I'm like, ugh.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I saw it coming. I see him look over because Ryan Monday was our safety.
I see Ryan Monday come down. So I'm like, okay, I know it's about to happen.
Slid in. Knew the slant was coming.

Speaker 1 I was like, I just need to get him down.

Speaker 1 Tried to get him down. They hit me with a main one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's hard to go full stride, restart your engine, and try to catch up with a guy who ran the 4-3. We're talking about a young DT.
Yeah. A young DT.

Speaker 1 It's big, too. Like, there's a lot of power behind that scene.
425. Like, ain't nothing small about DT.

Speaker 1 So, DT, but everybody was like,

Speaker 1 Tebo Mania. And I'm like, I mean, it was.
It was Tebo Mania. You got got by Tebo Mania.
Is the capstone of his career? 100%. That's how I remember you.
That was DT. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it was perfect pass in stride by Tebow. I tore that locker room up.
I don't know how much came out of my check,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 I tore that locker room because I'm like,

Speaker 1 damn, like, I don't know. Tebo beat you.
I just, no, I never said Tebo beats you. You knew that that highlight was going to chase you around for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're still not come to grips with the fact that Tebow beat you. No, I played longer than him, one Super Bowl.
Like, I'm not sure that day. I don't care.
He beat you. I'm that guy.

Speaker 1 Also, Dickie, he hung out to dry on that play. You didn't have a lot of help.

Speaker 1 No, no, he didn't. A little bit.
Not at all. Ryan Clark did.
Because he couldn't play in the altitude, right?

Speaker 1 That's how I played. Like,

Speaker 1 I didn't play with any help. Like, I never asked the safety for help.

Speaker 1 Ike Island. 100%.
Yeah. 100%.
Like, I was really that motherfucking guy. Like, y'all got me twisted.
Like,

Speaker 1 I was really that guy. Hey, sometimes gunfighters get shot.
And that day, they got me. Yeah.
That's what it just happened to be.

Speaker 1 When you say it like that, it actually sounds cool.

Speaker 1 Sometimes gunfighters get shot. Fuck, that's true.

Speaker 1 Ike, thank you so much, man. Appreciate it.
Awesome. Appreciate it.
Welcome back anytime. Thank you.
Appreciate you coming on, and congrats on the two Super Bowls and also making your mom proud.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I appreciate that.
Appreciate that. Thanks for having me.
Absolutely, man. All right.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to some segments. Thanks to Ike Taylor for stopping by.
We definitely have him on again. Yes.
Recurring guest.

Speaker 1 Let's start with a PR 101

Speaker 1 for the man who the internet loves to dunk on. It is Darren Revelle.
So he had quite the Sunday, quite the Easter Sunday. It started with the LSU gymnastics team tweeting out, thank you, Baton Rouge.

Speaker 1 And it was a billboard that, now, it was one of those electronic billboards, not very hard to put up there. It said 2019 NCAA gymnastics national runner-up.
Yeah. Okay.
That's fine. Okay.

Speaker 1 Darren Revelle said, no.

Speaker 1 You can't put up a billboard for coming in second.

Speaker 1 Ratio,

Speaker 1 1,000 replies, 223 retweets. Not going to be.
And got dragged all day. The world's best sports bar turned on Darren.

Speaker 1 People found the time that he got his shoes gold-plated for finishing like 3,000th in the Chicago Marathon. Now, he wants it to be known that he didn't actually gold plate himself.

Speaker 1 Nike did it for him. Without his knowledge of the public, without his knowledge.

Speaker 1 No idea that it was happening. No idea.

Speaker 1 We also found the hilarious tweet.

Speaker 1 Alex Restrepo, who is a friend of the program, found the tweet where Darren Revelle said, my story on Joe Flacco's post-contract McDonald's meal was the second most read ESPN headline story yesterday.

Speaker 1 Yep. Celebrating second.

Speaker 1 So Darren basically, like the whole internet was like, dude, shut the fuck up. Because what Darren did was he thought he had gotten the like tides correct.

Speaker 1 He read the tides and was like, hey, people don't like participation trophies. They don't like celebrating second place.

Speaker 1 I'm about to fucking show them. I'm big bad Darren.
And I too don't think that second place matters. This is what happens when you take the Disney handcuffs off Darren.
He gets out on his own.

Speaker 1 He gets to unleash the takes that changed the world. And he said he was doing it for the kids, too.
No, his kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so his kids could see him insulting the runners-up of women's gymnastics. So what he failed to, and people, obviously, if you're sitting here and you're like, hey,

Speaker 1 aren't you the guys that made fun of the Colts banner that says second place? Well, it wasn't. Yeah.
It was AFC finalists. Finalists, yes.

Speaker 1 And yes, we did make fun of that because that is a professional sports team.

Speaker 1 You know, they have a Super Bowl trophy.

Speaker 1 Very, very strange to then celebrate finalists when you have something that you've achieved in your past and then to celebrate coming up fourth or whatever the finalist.

Speaker 1 I also think a big part of that one was that it said finalist, but they finished in fourth place. Right.
So it's like the finalist of half the final. Right.

Speaker 1 And it's professional athletes. What Darren forgets to realize is that.
And it's Tim Merce, so you have to imagine that he was heavily involved in the process to design the banner.

Speaker 1 So these are college athletes, get paid nothing. This is

Speaker 1 the highest, yes, unless it's Duke Zion.

Speaker 1 This is the highest that LSU gymnastics, the female gymnastics team, has ever finished. Really cool for them.
Big season for them.

Speaker 1 I think they had two people on the team, two women on the team actually win national championships individually. So it's the community basically saying, good job, guys.
We're very proud of you.

Speaker 1 Not on Darren Ravens.

Speaker 1 No, sir, no, sir, no, sir. He got dragged left and right.
Like, who the fuck cares about a billboard of like celebrating runner? Like, that's a cool accomplishment.

Speaker 1 You're, you're, again, you're a college athletes. You don't get paid.
It's not like we celebrate final fours. We sell, you know what I mean? Like, final fours are pretty fucking cool.

Speaker 1 Listen, when you grow up,

Speaker 1 when you grow up as an incredible athlete, such as Darren did, and you have all the championships to show for it, it must chap your ass to be like, hey, these people are celebrating second place, and I accomplished all this stuff.

Speaker 1 I didn't get a billboard when I won states in high school football when I was a big bad jock, when I excelled in every sport that I ever participated in since a young age. So

Speaker 1 I'm okay with gatekeepers for the generation of participation trophy receivers, as long as those gatekeepers are themselves elite athletes like Darren. So I'm fine with Darren being the guy.
So here's

Speaker 1 the tweet that he finished today. He went basically all day without tweeting.
And you know what? I want to give Darren just a little bit of credit. Last week, we, well, no, hear me out, Hank.

Speaker 1 Last week, we had Tiger Woods Woods bring all of Twitter together. This week, we had Darren Revelle bring all of Twitter together in their hate for Darren Revelle.
It was a really nice moment.

Speaker 1 It's like community building to dunk on Darren Revelle. I think what made it even better was that it was on Easter.
Yes. Everyone stopped, like, hold on, hold on, Nana and Papa,

Speaker 1 I got to fucking tweet a GIF at Darren Revelle here showing how much of an idiot he is. You don't understand, Nana.
Darren's really out of pocket online. I got to handle this.

Speaker 1 So it's very rare for him to go all day without doing like a true tweet. He was responding to everyone.

Speaker 1 That's the first sign that you've been owned to respond to every single person basically being like, no, that was different. The gold-plated shoes, I didn't do.

Speaker 1 I finished, that was a personal accomplishment. I finished fucking, dude.
He literally talks about his marathon running like every day. And he runs like a four-hour marathon.

Speaker 1 So this is the most not owned, owned tweet of all time.

Speaker 1 He finished it with, what an incredible platform this is that allows people to passionately express how they feel about topics and issues and debate those takes no matter where or who you are.

Speaker 1 Today was a great example. This was just a great day for the discourse, is what it was.

Speaker 1 The only thing that would have been better is if he had said that this was a giant social experiment to see how people would react. And I wouldn't put it past Darren to do that at some point.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 And what really made me

Speaker 1 feel very warm inside on the high holiday, put a smile on my face, was just imagining as Darren's getting dunked on and him saying that he did it for his kids, him sitting his own children down and explaining to them why daddy put out a tweet

Speaker 1 mocking the runners up in the NCAA gymnastics competition and explaining why it was for their own good and trying to impart a life lesson.

Speaker 1 They're like, Dad, I don't, you signed me up for a Twitter account when I was born. I've never used it.
I don't want this. I don't this.
I don't want this. Why were you bullying a bunch of teenage

Speaker 1 women who don't get paid? Cool. Cool, Darren.
Thanks. Cool guy, Darren.
Thanks, Daddy.

Speaker 1 A great discourse on the platform. Yeah, tremendous day for the discourse.
That That really shows all time. This is what Twitter really could be.
That's going to be his tweet tomorrow.

Speaker 1 This is why I keep reinvesting stock in Twitter because of how bad I got dunked on.

Speaker 1 You know what, Jack, instead of fasting for two days without eating any food whatsoever, I challenge you to take two days without reading any of Darren Revelle's tweets.

Speaker 1 I think that would be much harder. Block them.
Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 suspend Darren Revelle for a week, dude. Could you imagine? You know what? There are certain people in this world that the internet should be taken away from for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 1 I would say Darren is pretty high up on that list. Pretty high up on that.
Darren's knocking on the door. Yes, he absolutely is.
Hey, once the cuffs came off on ESPN, he's a bad boy. The internet is

Speaker 1 not for everybody. Yes, it is not.

Speaker 1 All right, next up, we have a Connect the Dots PFT. You have this.
Yeah, so I'm not a conspiracy guy. We're Connect the Dots guys.
I want to state that up front.

Speaker 1 But I read an article in ESPN last week about Greg Popovich, right? And about how he has been the league's leading wine guy for the last 25 years. Okay.
And how he's

Speaker 1 wine is in like sheesh. Sheesh wine.

Speaker 1 Both. Well, he doesn't whine.
He just stares at reporters and doesn't answer the questions. And then they whine about it later.

Speaker 1 But he has been going out to these very fancy restaurants, taking his team out. Anybody that he's in contact with ever, whether it's U.S.

Speaker 1 basketball, anybody that goes out to dinner with Popovich is getting $10,000, $20,000 worth of wine purchased for them. Interesting.
He's a big lush. He likes spreading the gospel of wine around.

Speaker 1 Now, connect the dots here. This doesn't sound.

Speaker 1 I think that.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 He just buys people $10,000 worth of wine all the time. When you're going out for dinners with him, yeah, he will buy the shit out of wine at a restaurant.

Speaker 1 I think what he did was he tried to get, and he succeeded at getting this current crop of superstars addicted to wine

Speaker 1 so that he can continue on his legacy in San Antonio. He's been dominating the NBA for what, the last

Speaker 1 20 years? Sure. 23 years, something like that.

Speaker 1 I truly think that he uses it as an advantage to be like, I'm going to turn LeBron James into an alcoholic so my San Antonio Spurs can still look like we're still in dynasty mode. Yes.

Speaker 1 He basically took down LeBron's career. Yes.
So I don't think you're wrong here.

Speaker 1 And he also made Mello retire at the height of his career. Yep.
And Dwayne Wade has also retired to become a wine drinker.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm guessing. No, that's what he's going to do with the other team in Texas, wine drinker,

Speaker 1 booty eater, and Budweiser seller in his commercials. Yes.
So I think you're spot on. Pop has taken the NBA down from within.
LeBron James has gotten played.

Speaker 1 He always said he wants to play with, he wants to play for Pop.

Speaker 1 He really is. That's probably why he wants to drink with Pop.
They just want to get drunk together.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 his last hurrah. Pop's last hurrah in the NBA is to just get every good player addicted to the shit.

Speaker 1 That would be so awesome if LeBron finished his career in San Antonio and they they would just be sipping on wine during games, and LeBron would get wine drunk and start crying while he's shooting free throws just out of emotion.

Speaker 1 And missing, he misses the free throw.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's like Peter Griffin. He starts getting drunk at games.
He starts making his free throws. Ooh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Give it a shot, LeBron. LeBron's a good fighter.

Speaker 1 It can't be worse than him. Okay, let's wrap up.
We have Monday reading, then we'll do Game of Thrones recap. We'll keep that towards the end so that we won't do any spoilers if you have not watched.

Speaker 1 But the Monday reading,

Speaker 1 Danny Amendola had himself a weekend. He's actually high up on the list of people who should get the internet taken away from him.
Or at least he should be suspended from the internet.

Speaker 1 He certainly is. So there was, I guess, how did it start? There was a rumor that Danny.
There was a picture of his

Speaker 1 on-again, off-again girlfriend Olivia Coppo dancing with Zed,

Speaker 1 who's a DJ, and they're dancing together at Coachella. Yes.
So

Speaker 1 the normal reaction would be,

Speaker 1 I am a very wealthy wide receiver in the NFL. I have Super Bowl rings.
I'm very good looking. I don't really care.
The reaction that Denny Amadola went with was,

Speaker 1 first he did a video where he was watching the scene from Pulp Fiction where Zed is dead. That's the line, Zed is dead.
And him just flexing his abs while he's watching it in bed.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's pretty normal. Normal.
And then he wrote abs. He created abs.
Oh, I mean, he's a fucking, he's a very, very attractive guy. But then he went online and he had this Instagram post.

Speaker 1 Bad facial hair guy, though. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's not great. It's just not Julian Edelman.
Julian Edelman is, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 Danny Amendola next to Julian Edelman, like he loses all his powers because Jules got the best facial hair in the game. I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 All right, so this is what Danny Amendola wrote. This is our Monday reading.

Speaker 1 I believe there should be a boundary between private life and social media. Olivia believes in fishbowl lifestyle.
This fundamental difference was huge in our relationship.

Speaker 1 If you're my real friend, you know I'm private.

Speaker 1 My brother, my mother, father, and nephew are closest to me in this world, and you don't see one picture of them, and that's for their protection from those who criticize and judge.

Speaker 1 I think that's totally fair. So far, he is on track.
Good posts. Unfortunately, we have a lot more to go.

Speaker 1 I believe in nailing picture frames on the inside of my house to remind the ones I love that I care. Olivia chooses and wants to be noticed on the internet and in Hollywood to make money.

Speaker 1 She is, by the way, a model. Yeah, that's her job.
Which he knew going into.

Speaker 1 It's tough to be a model when the only people that can see your pictures are the people that are currently inside your house. I'm actually the best model in the world inside my house.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Leroy thinks I'm a perfect model.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 which was hard for me to understand, but quickly had to learn. Whereas the cost of fame in this world doesn't appeal to me, I play ball for one reason, and that's respect.

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 in Detroit right now. Yeah, he plays it for money and

Speaker 1 whatever. Okay.
Yeah, Super Bowl. Respect.
The only reason I'm writing this post is because whether I liked it or not, we live in a public eye. Some of it is amazing.

Speaker 1 I've met some of the nicest people from all over the world, and Olivia and I had some amazing times together. Just like any other loving relationship, we fought.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, so we're bringing this online. Okay.

Speaker 1 A lot of the time it was my fault because, let's be honest, I can be an idiot. But knew there was a but.
Yup. She's fucked up too.

Speaker 1 And if you cross me, I'm a hard motherfucker to deal with. Sounding a little creepy there, Danny.

Speaker 1 The universe brought her and I together to enjoy life, love, and learn. We celebrated that as often as we could, and the sex was fucking crazy, too.

Speaker 1 That's hot. It's pretty hot, yeah.
Really hot, but I go back to the first paragraph where he's like, I like to keep everything offline. And then we've

Speaker 1 been in a matter of sentences here. We're now talking about his sex.
Yeah, this, it sounds like he might have partaken in some extracurricular activities before sitting down to write this one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, so she gets so mad at me for not posting her on social media, but I think this shit is sometimes fake, sometimes toxic, but sometimes beautiful.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to make of that. Again,

Speaker 1 this actually sounds like the Tampa Bay Lightning letter that they wrote to their fan, that tweet that they put out after they lost. That's the tone that's.
No words. Stop it, no words.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have no words. But let me get into my sex life with Olivia real quick.

Speaker 1 And I felt like she had enough pictures online anyway. She is her model.
That is her job. Truth is, I have a whole cell phone of funny, embarrassing, sexy pics IG would love to have.

Speaker 1 That sounds like extortion, brother. Yes.

Speaker 1 However, living a public image isn't my choice. It's something I've learned to deal with.

Speaker 1 Reading all these wild stories about her and I and seeing Olivia with other men, I just wanted to personally clear the air out there. We've been on and off for a long time and not together as of late.

Speaker 1 Not sure what's in the future, but the only thing I care about is her happiness.

Speaker 1 That's what this sounds like. That's very nice.
Yeah, that's very nice. And if that's dancing with scrawny little fucks, so be it.

Speaker 1 That's the best two senses ever. Her happiness is paramount.
And in these little fuckboys that she's fucking, fuck them.

Speaker 1 Listen, I nobody likes to see your ex-girlfriend dancing with somebody, but if you have to see it, better be with a fucking loser like this guy.

Speaker 1 Danny, just here's what you should do. Be like a normal dude.
Lock yourself in a room for a week. Listen to The Cure.
Yeah. Write some poetry.

Speaker 1 Say you're going to to start a band, never actually get around to it,

Speaker 1 then come out the other side looking normal.

Speaker 1 You should be hanging out with Matt Patricia. Matt Patricia to me seems like a great bounce back guy to hang out with.
Yes. Just like your big furry guy that's always

Speaker 1 slapping you on your chest, like getting you involved. Any little dick hit.

Speaker 1 I don't want to think about Danny like this. I prefer to think of my Danny Amendola when he was in better times, wrapped up inside Gronk's coat.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Like a little cloak, a little love nest for the two of them, looking into each other's eyes.

Speaker 1 That's who he should be with all right here's the end i'm happy too i believe him uh with that said live my beautiful ex-girlfriend providence findings in bakers bay pancakes carry on ig

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 so yeah that was a lot that was a lot that was a lot and i i i i feel like every person has been in that spot in life where it's like hey i don't want to see you don't want to see your you know your ex hanging out with other people

Speaker 1 you just should have taken your advice from the the very first paragraph of being like, I don't want to put everything out on social media. Stop.
Yeah, good.

Speaker 1 I actually think this probably helped out a lot of stuff with Danny because

Speaker 1 it had the potential to be an on-again, off-again thing, like recurring for the next six months, year, whatever. They're probably going to hook up again at some point until he put this online.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Now they're definitely not going to get back together. No.
So it ended it. It actually very conveniently ended it for him.
That's true.

Speaker 1 That'll be good for him in the long run. All right.
So it's good because that was it. That was all he posted, right? Okay, good.
Oh,

Speaker 1 no, he posted more. So, yeah, he deleted it.
He deleted that. Shortly, actually,

Speaker 1 and then he posted a picture of him smiling, dancing. This was over the course of a few days, too.
So, he really worked out.

Speaker 1 And then he posted a follow-up with a lion and said, What I meant to say yesterday was that the media and general public have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.

Speaker 1 I don't put, you know, blah, blah, blah. You don't know how great and wild our sex is.
Yeah, you have no idea. And then he posted, people won't often remember what you said.

Speaker 1 They will remember how you made them feel.

Speaker 1 That seems like that's a shot at Olivia. And then he said

Speaker 1 another one that just said, fake people have an image to maintain. The real ones just don't care.

Speaker 1 I don't think he cares. Danny's like the most athletic eighth grader.

Speaker 1 That's where his brain is that of like a 12-year-old that danced with a girl at a Casey and JoJo at his middle school dance, got a little bit too big of a boner, and then won't let it go.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm not canceling Danny Amendola. You know, he's, he, I'm just not gonna, I'm not, this isn't cancelable offense.
I just know that, guess what?

Speaker 1 No one is regretting this more than Danny Amendola when he wakes up on Monday morning. He's like, whoa, that was a weekend.
Yeah. Oh, fuck.
Whoops. She should have put my phone down.

Speaker 1 Is this what happens when you just wake up and you realize I'm going to be in Detroit for the next year? And I just lost Miss Universe. That's the thing.
It's like, you know. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like to explore more of the opportunity of developing a modeling career that doesn't involve getting pictures taken of yourself. Yes.
So, you know, just a mind's eye model.

Speaker 1 Danny Amendola, you'll pick up the pieces. You'll be fine.

Speaker 1 Does he have two Super Bowl rings? One Super Bowl rings? Two. You got millions of dollars.
You're a very good-looking dude. Your best friend's Julian Edelman.

Speaker 1 That's like one of the best, best friends you could ever have.

Speaker 1 And Gronk, he's great.

Speaker 1 He's perfectly average height. Perfectly average height.
You're right. He is.
He's also got all the time in the world to party with Gronk right now. Gronk should just go.

Speaker 1 If Gronk isn't on a plane to wherever. Do you think he's in Detroit right now? Yeah, probably.
If he's not on a plane to Detroit, then I've really underestimated Rob Gronkowski

Speaker 1 for a boys' weekend. And here's the ultimate spin zone, Danny, if you're listening.

Speaker 1 You've already done the most regrettable thing you can do online. It's over.
So you can't go lower. It's like most people are like waiting for that moment.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, what if I just fuck up and start pouring my heart out and talking about how crazy the sex was and saying I want to beat up Scrowny Fox? I think he can go lower. Okay.
I believe in Danny.

Speaker 1 Well, we're trying to pick him up here. But I believe in him.
Okay. He's always been known as a hard worker.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think that maybe goth Amendola, goth Danny. We're going to laugh.
It'll be a nice little phase. Yeah, we're going to laugh.
This is going to all be hilarious. Like,

Speaker 1 one day we're just going to be like, remember that time you lost your mind and just posted a shitload of Instagrams being really mad because your ex-girlfriend was dancing with a scrawny DJ?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's tough. It's very tough.
Good times.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's wrap up.
If you haven't watched Game of Thrones, there will be spoilers here. Little Game of Thrones recap.
Play some music 360. Why don't start?

Speaker 1 In the halls of the kings who are gone,

Speaker 1 Jenny would dance with her ghost.

Speaker 1 The ones she had lost, and the ones she had found,

Speaker 1 and the ones who had loved her the most.

Speaker 1 The ones who'd been gone for so very long

Speaker 1 She couldn't remember their names

Speaker 1 They spun her round on the damp holdstone

Speaker 1 Spun away all her son

Speaker 1 pain

Speaker 1 And she never

Speaker 1 wanted to leave

Speaker 1 Never wanted to leave

Speaker 1 Never

Speaker 1 Wanted to leave

Speaker 1 Never wanted to leave

Speaker 1 How'd you start Hink?

Speaker 1 I thought it was a good episode. It kind of felt like it was episode one, part two.
Yes. So there's just a lot of reunions, a lot of jokes.
It was, yeah, everyone was in a good mood.

Speaker 1 It's like Machdraft version 1.2. Yeah, everyone was a good mood joking around before they die.
Yeah, I was nervous the whole time thinking like something was going to happen.

Speaker 1 I thought it was a great episode. The one thing that I was hoping like Brand said what the Night King's intentions were and like his whole thing is flashbacks.

Speaker 1 I was hoping they were going to show like

Speaker 1 what are the Night King's intentions. Like Tyrion sat with them and was like, what's your deal? I thought they were going to like go back in time.
Like it was a 60-minute episode.

Speaker 1 I thought they could have like cut down some of like the jokes and like you know

Speaker 1 and just at least done I like just saying that this is what the night King wants, I thought they could have at least shown it and done a little bit of a better job, like, showing why the fuck this dude is coming to Winterfell with a million undead zombies.

Speaker 1 That's a classic writer's trick where they make you get extra attached to everyone right before they die. Yeah, also, like, this guy was really fun.

Speaker 1 What it showed me is, like, a city under siege where everything's on lockdown, that becomes a giant locker room. Yeah.
So, like, all is fair. Like, there's that one, the beefy red-haired guy.
Torment.

Speaker 1 Torment, who just was trying to get laid and drink titty milk all the time. He's Jim Harbaugh.
Yeah, he was just trying to

Speaker 1 sucking that giant's breast milk out of the horn. What a story.
And just trying to have sex with anybody.

Speaker 1 The whole city is just locker room talk.

Speaker 1 I enjoy that a lot.

Speaker 1 I noticed that you guys got kind of grossed out when that girl had sex. Okay, so Arya.
Aria having sex was...

Speaker 1 I was not looking forward to that. She is...

Speaker 1 She, like, basically has grown up on the show. And she started on the show as, like, a 10-year-old.
Okay, that's tough.

Speaker 1 So it's like, and she still is seen as like a little girl, even though I think the real actress is 22. But like,

Speaker 1 it was weird. I didn't need it.

Speaker 1 Now, that's tough for us, but if you started watching when you were 10 years old at the same time as her, like, you, and she grew up as you were growing up, then that was probably the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 1 It's like when I was 15, I really liked Alicia Silverstone, right? Who's also 15, and we grew up together, and she probably definitely felt that connection just like I felt it with her.

Speaker 1 I also like the callback, how in the first episode, Ned and King Robert were like, let's join houses, thinking it was going to be Sansa and fucking Joffrey. Yep.

Speaker 1 Then it finally came around full circle. Arya and Jendry.
Just

Speaker 1 probably means that Jendry's going to die. Arya's going to get pregnant.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So now I really can't deal with it.
No, I think she is going to be pregnant. You can't even deal.
I think. Wait, what if she's pregnant?

Speaker 1 Because in this show, basically, if you have sex, like that, you're pregnant. Yeah, what if she's pregnant in real life and they had to write it into the show? She's not.
No. As like an 18-year-old.

Speaker 1 That'd be wild. She's trying to.
That'd be wild.

Speaker 1 My question: I noticed this today. So, like, last week, I had a bunch of questions about the fires that were burning out out everywhere.
This one is just like their general hygiene.

Speaker 1 It looks like the smelliest place on the bottom. Oh, yeah.
Everyone's breath stinks.

Speaker 1 Do they not shower? No. Bath.
Bad shower discipline. The rich people bathe.
The poor people just live in shit. They just deal with smell.
Everyone smells like shit, so nobody does? No one does.

Speaker 1 So it actually probably doesn't smell bad because that's all you know is that everyone smells like pig shit. Okay.

Speaker 1 They also didn't show the Night King in the next time on, which might mean that, you know, he's pulling a Hezzy Hay. He's a Hezzy hay.

Speaker 1 Jamie is a woke liberal. He knighted Sir Brianne.
He's a white knight. That was just a flexible toy.
He's literally white-knighted.

Speaker 1 Big-time white knight.

Speaker 1 Can you believe it?

Speaker 1 A knight? Oh, female knight in my lifetime?

Speaker 1 Could never happen. Joining the legendary warriors such as

Speaker 1 Sean Connery, Nick Jagger. Who else has been knighted? Ben Kingsley.
Yep. Prince.
Prince. Prince was knighted.
That's confusing. I mean, I assume he was.
That would be extremely confusing.

Speaker 1 The Knight Prince. That was actually an awesome moment, though, because Sir Brianne, the smile on her face.

Speaker 1 I think that, like, fights actually pointed out, I think that was actually the first time someone smiled on the entire show. What if JR Ryder got knighted and he became Knight Rider?

Speaker 1 Ooh, that would be sick. That'd be fucking awesome.
That would be real sick to happen. Can I do that as a minister? Can I knight somebody? Nope.

Speaker 1 I've also, I'm going to unminister you as soon as I can. No, you can't.

Speaker 1 So, what else? Oh, I wrote down. Oh, Jon Snow telling his aunt that they've been fucking.
That was wobble. Twitter user, I think it's at Big Business.

Speaker 1 He said Danny acted like Bran was Chris Broussard, dog.

Speaker 1 He did. She did.
She was like, You're going to believe that fucking guy? That's the other thing that I've been hoping was going to happen.

Speaker 1 So remember the two kids that went with Bran to the wall and three-eyed Raven and all that shit? Yeah, yeah. Their dad was the dude that stabbed the knight that was with Ned Stark.

Speaker 1 Remember there in the fight? And he stabbed, like, he thought it looked like he was going to lose. And then that guy, his friend, stabbed the guy in the back.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And he ran up to the tower to get Jon Snow. Yes.
So that guy's still alive. It's those two kids' dad.
So he can come and like verify everything. Oh.
He's still alive. He's out there.

Speaker 1 He's alive in the world. And I was hoping that in these first two episodes, he was going to come and be like, no, like, this is legit.
Damn. So I'm still hoping that happens.

Speaker 1 But that was another, like, I thought it was a good episode, but those two things were a little bit of a letdown. It's going to be a huge episode next week.
Everyone's going to die.

Speaker 1 Jorah's going to die in the ultimate friend zone. That guy, that guy, probably.
How many times do you think Jorah has jerked off to Khaleesi?

Speaker 1 Since

Speaker 1 the thousands.

Speaker 1 He's just been following Khaleesi Daenerys around and being like her right-hand man, but he secretly just wants to fuck her. Oh,

Speaker 1 her hand. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But she's like, no, dude.
You're too old.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's been with her, and she's had like seven boyfriends.

Speaker 1 That's the perfect seasons of friend zone. She's playing that exactly right, like getting his testosterone all the way up, making him be horny all the time.
That's what you want your defender to be.

Speaker 1 Right. So he's just been jerking it to her like every single time he's off camera, and now he's going to die

Speaker 1 without ever feeling that yet. Without ever feeling a woman's warmth.
Yes, exactly. So yeah, it's going to be a crazy episode.
I don't know. Jon Snow, I feel like Daenerys did not take that news well.

Speaker 1 That she's not the rightful heir. She took it about as well as he could have expected.
Well, it is kind of like, oh, your best friend and your weird-ass brother.

Speaker 1 Maybe she was happy that he was the heir, but she was sad that she wasn't going to get dicked down anymore. Oh, they're still going to dick down.
That's not going to stop him. Oh, no.
No.

Speaker 1 That actually, in a weird way, I think it makes it even hotter for them. I mean, their whole family thing is not

Speaker 1 muddying the bloodlines. They're fucking incest as a curtain.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is kind of funny what Game of Thrones does to your brain, where it's like the 22-year-old girl that you saw grow up, you're like, no, don't fuck.

Speaker 1 And then the aunt and nephew, and then the brother and sister, you're like, fuck yes, that's hot.

Speaker 1 Wait, so they're sisters? Are they aunt? That's aunt and nephew. Yeah.
He's fucking his aunt? He's fucking his aunt. All right, that's better than brother-sister.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Cersei and Jamie have created four children together. Okay, nice.
And they're twins.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 very cool. All right.
That's our show. I think we covered everything.
Oh, Bran's still a weirdo. He just says weird shit.

Speaker 1 He just like, it just should be record scratch every time he says something. I'm still very woke on Bran.
Oh. I think that Bran is going to, he's either going to kill somebody.

Speaker 1 He's going to kill somebody. He could be the Night King.

Speaker 1 He's like trying to do this thing where he's like, have the Night King meet me by myself out in the middle of the woods somewhere so we can make some secret treaty.

Speaker 1 And I'll come and I'll kill the fuck out of all of you people. Also, one last thing.
All-time

Speaker 1 shitty situation for Theon. Gets his dick cut off, comes back to Winterfell, and Sansa starts giving him the eyes.
And he's got no dick. That's very true.
He literally left. She was too young.

Speaker 1 Comes back. She's like, oh, you're hot, Theon.
And he's like, well, about that. I actually got my dick cut off like four seasons.

Speaker 1 That was a dude that was up on the roof.

Speaker 1 He was with Sansa. He said

Speaker 1 he would defend her.

Speaker 1 The Ironborn. Okay.
He came back. He's got no dick.
No dick. Got it cut off.
That's a tough break. But that Ramsay.
He still got the balls, though, right?

Speaker 1 I think he got everything cut off.

Speaker 1 He sucked.

Speaker 1 But he literally came back.

Speaker 1 She could just play with his balls for a while. The hottest chicken Winterfell wants to suck it and get the Greyworm out of there.

Speaker 1 Greyworm scissor sushi. Just scissor with the balls.

Speaker 1 Just do whatever Greyworm did. Well, if he's smart, he takes it all the way.
You know what I mean? Like, he sees if, like, they will, like, oh, oh, I could have had her.

Speaker 1 Like, don't tell her that you don't have a dick until the last possible second. Last second.
And then, yeah, it's too late. Oh, fuck.
I forgot to mention this. Oh, shit.
You know what?

Speaker 1 I forgot my dick. Wouldn't you know it? I didn't bring it.
Let me go back. Hey, do you want to go and get my dick? Do you want to peg me instead?

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