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On today's part of my take, we have an awesome, awesome interview with Trevor Lawrence.

Really cool guy.

Great time with him.

Out in Tahoe last week.

We're going to talk some sports.

We have the Homer and Derby coming up on Monday night.

Real shame that Christian Yelch is not competing.

Damn shame.

Real shame.

We had Wimbledon final.

We had whatever that soccer tournament final was.

Yep.

We had the MLB draft.

We're going to do who's back of the week.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of Worst Places to Be When You're Violently Hung Over.

And then we're going to get Zach a date at the end of the show.

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Today is Monday, July 14th.

I almost said Wednesday, boys.

These days kind of run together when we don't have any big sports moments, but it happens.

We can mistake a Tuesday for a Friday.

Yeah, Tuesday for a Friday.

We do have the home run derby.

And last we talked to you, we were finishing up chill week out in Tahoe, so we recorded early in the day on that Thursday, and it hadn't been finalized who was going to be in the home run derby.

It is now finalized.

There is no Christian Yellich.

We did it one more year of keeping our tongues out of each other's buttholes.

The Sickos and perverts are besides themselves.

And when I say Sickos and Perverts, I'm talking about one memes.

Yep, this is very, very disappointing to you, memes.

Was Jazz Chisholm the last guy that they put in?

Jazz Chisholm.

And also Olson.

Yeah.

A good friend Matt Olson.

Was it Kunya who got hurt?

And then Olson?

Or no.

Yeah, Kunya is being replaced by Matt Matt Olson.

Yeah, by Matt Olson.

Both from the Braves.

Yes, we have friends in the show.

We have Cal Rowley.

We have Matt Olson.

James Wood.

It's going to be a great, great home run.

And you know what's great?

Is it's good for the sport not to have people associate the home run derby with Anu Lingus.

Yes, I'd agree.

I also have a gift that was given to us that I would like to present to you guys.

Okay.

Ahead of the home run derby.

Okay.

Pretty cool.

This truly is the best sports weekend of the year that we just went through.

It was amazing.

Oh, that's like

awesome jerseys.

Hank, PFT and I got big dumper signed jerseys.

We got to put these up in, maybe we just put them up in every room.

I love that.

Yeah.

So we are going to be rooting for Cal Raleigh.

The big dumper signed jerseys.

This one's yours, PFT.

Oh, sweet.

Yeah.

Big dumper.

Look at that.

Big dumper.

Memes' response in the booth was they should be eating dumpers instead of this.

Oh, memes, that's disgusting.

That is disgusting.

Hank, here's your big dumper.

This is awesome.

So we got to put this up in the studio.

I think if Big Dumper wins, memes, you got to show ass.

I just love that he actually signed it, Big Dumper.

Yeah, that's great.

With an exclamation point.

So he was happy to sign it.

This is great.

Big Dumper.

That's good for the sport.

We got some bright young stars.

But yeah, Big Cat, when you were introing the show, I just thought to myself, what a great sports week in this world.

We had the soccer thing, the tournament thing that

was on a soccer field.

We had...

Still don't understand.

It was just clubs.

Club something.

We had the World Cup of clubs.

Clubs.

We had the baseball draft,

which was very exciting.

Yep.

One thing I will say about baseball fans, though, they understand the assignment when it comes to just straight up booing the commissioner.

Yeah.

He went out there, he took 32 booze to the face, or how I think they went two rounds.

Yeah.

So he just got booed nonstop.

And then, yeah, just what a magical weekend.

Wimbledon.

Wimbledon, which I

watched three sets of.

Yeah, it was a great weekend.

Great sports weekend.

Great sports weekend.

Your favorite weekend of the year.

Where do we want to start?

Are we all going to just bet Cal Rowley to.

The only problem I have with Cal Rowley in the Home Run derby is his dad is pitching to him.

Now, his dad was a coach,

an acclaimed coach, but I always get a little nervous about that.

By Sharper's dad did that a few years ago.

I would rather have it be the guy who pitches you batting practice every single day.

Because at some point, if it's your dad, he's going to enter the mindset of like, I can't let my son just tee off on me like this.

Not only that, but I do think that when it's your dad,

I think his brother is catching.

So that's very cool.

But is it too cool?

The moment might be too special.

It's like, like we're here.

This is incredible.

It's all gravy after that.

No, no, no.

Cal, we want you to win this thing.

But according to the Oedipus con, was it the complex?

Yeah.

The Oedipus complex, you should want to take your dad deep all day.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, that should be the thing that every man has inside them.

Like, I want to, I want to take my dad yards.

So maybe that's that will work.

And then I think maybe sprinkle a little Matt Olsen just because we'll just bet on our friends.

I'm going to sprinkle some James Wood, too.

Okay.

James Woods.

Okay.

Yeah, so then we have the.

Oh, we also had for the All-Star game on Tuesday night,

a little bit of controversy.

Max's Phillies were very upset that there was a late addition from the Milwaukee Brewers.

Yeah.

Max, you're being a baby about it.

The Miz.

He has five career games.

And how many strikeouts?

Like a billion.

Way less than Christopher Sanchez and Ranger Suarez.

Oh, that's who you're mad about?

Yeah, Christopher Sanchez technically, it's a very stupid rule, but you cannot be replaced by a guy who's pitching on Sunday in like a MLB all-star rule.

Okay.

Which is bullshit because the guys should still be recognized.

They get bonuses.

Like, that's unfair.

But Ranger Suarez has a sub-2 ERA with

a fact.

Yeah.

With three times the amount of starts as

this Miserowski guy.

How do you possibly

look at that and be like, this guy is more deserving than Ranger Suarez?

I don't know.

It makes no sense.

I don't say impossible.

Yeah, I don't think deserving is the right word.

I think it's...

Why?

Why, since when is it

since when is being deserving not a thing for all star games?

But I'm saying this move is not deserving because you're right.

This guy only has, what, you said, five starts.

He does throw the ball like a million miles an hour.

It's got pop.

You want to tune in and try to grow the game.

And people want to watch it.

Like, this guy throws the ball so fast, so hard, and he's had a great start to his career.

I'm a Miseryowski guy.

I don't even know how to say his name.

It's not because the brews are ripe.

They're good again.

Misery business.

Whatever it is, this guy's fun to watch.

By the way, I just want to say as a side, for anyone who ever thinks that Max is doing some type of bit, I can attest he's not because he was screaming about Ranger Suarez's ERA in the pool yesterday when we were hammered, and it was like way too loud for everyone around.

He's like, he has a 194 ERA.

So this is who he is all the time.

Yeah.

All the time.

Who's going to tune in?

to watch Ranger Suarez over Misery?

Not me.

Not me.

Misrowski is...

He puts puts asses in seats.

I don't even think we're tuning in because we're going to be doing our home run derby.

That's right.

But if I were to tune in, it would be because of Misery Rowski.

Yeah.

Dude, he's got a 281 ERA.

That's pretty good.

Five games.

Anti-polish.

Suarez has a 194

in 13 games.

33 strikeouts.

Yeah, it is.

Listen, Max, it's the all-star game.

It's a popularity contest.

They're trying to add someone.

It's not a vote.

So they're like, let's add the guy that will get a pop.

That's what they're doing.

You can't blame MLB for doing that.

They're trying anything to get more eyeballs.

They want a phenomen in there.

And get some.

Five stars is insane.

You can just root for him to be bad, and then we can all, and then you'll look at the ball.

I now hate this guy.

I now want this guy to be the biggest bust in MLB history.

They also, in the all-star game, they're going to have the automated ball strike system.

Oh, okay.

So we're going to get robot umps for the first time.

Cool.

All-star game.

Wait, are the real umps going to be there?

I think they're going to be there, but they're going to use the AI system.

Got it.

Yeah.

All right.

So, yeah, that's our MLB.

And then, yeah, we had the draft.

The baseball draft.

Which is always fun because it's like you draft a guy and then you have to hope that he'll sign.

Yeah.

So the Nats.

You can draft a high schooler and be like, please come take this money.

The Nats had the first overall pick.

I think everybody expected they were going to go with a pitcher from LSU or they were going to go with a holiday.

Yeah.

There's another holiday.

They went with neither of the two.

In fact, if you had bet on them this morning, I think one of them was like plus 200, the other was like plus 300.

And the guy that they ended up drafting, Eli Willits, was in the any other player category.

Oh, after there were like seven players that they listed.

Oh, so then I had to do a crash course on why I had to learn why in baseball you don't always draft the best guy if you have the first overall pick.

Because you partially need them to be able to sign.

It would help if the Nationals drafted a player who was not represented by Scott Boris, who has just bent them over for the last 10 years repeatedly.

Correct.

So I think we drafted this guy because we're afraid of Scott Boris and also because we had to.

King Stay King, Scott Boris.

Big time king.

Yeah.

Like, put that pelt on your wall, Scott.

But apparently you draft a player because you have a set allotment of money that you can give as signing bonuses.

So if you take a guy first overall that was projected to go eighth, ninth, or tenth overall,

then you can pay him less money, less than the $11 million that was slotted.

And then you'll have more money later on to entice high school kids to come play for you instead of them saying, no, thanks, I'd rather go to college.

Yeah.

That's my general understanding of why you don't always take the baseball.

Makes sense to me.

Weird system you got there, baseball.

Yeah, it is a little weird.

And there's like 50 rounds.

Yeah, and then I saw who the Phillies got, and the first thing that went through my mind when I saw who the Phillies got

was this was the fucking how he did it again.

Yeah, this is a classic Eagles move.

You got one of the best pitchers in baseball that fell to you.

And didn't he have, like, did he have a game in College World Series where he gave up no hits?

Yeah, that was a complete game.

No hitters.

No hitter.

He had a 19 strikeouts.

No hitter.

That's right.

Correct.

Give up no hits.

That is correct.

This one player pitched nine innings.

It is funny.

19 strikeouts.

In baseball, it's like, all right.

1999.

College World Series, no-hitter.

That's a memorable one.

A holiday.

The guy who did the Coke celebration at third base.

Those are pretty much the stories.

Yep.

That's our MLB draft recap.

It's good.

We crushed it.

Do you guys want to talk about Wimbledon?

Sure.

Center won, and he's a cheater.

Sinner is a cheater.

He's bullshit.

Because Djokovic would have won.

People forget that Center cheated, got caught.

Yep.

Got put back in.

Alcaraz won the first set.

And then.

You know what?

I'm just going to go full on ESPN for this segment.

Just pretend this is the NBA Finals.

Alcaraz needed to step up in the third set.

Yeah.

He didn't step up.

No, he didn't have the heart.

I also think that

if you take out all

I'm counting this as Djokovic's 25th major because he played Sinner better than Alcarez played Sinner, and Sinner is a Sinner, and he's a cheater.

So therefore, ipso facto, Djokovic is the GOAT 25th major Grand Slam championship.

That's incredible.

Don't you agree?

It's fascinating stuff.

Yeah.

Did you guys see the long report about how LeBron is basically being left in the dark by the Lakers?

Because it was pretty awesome.

So

they told Luca that the team was being sold.

There was a couple stories.

Yeah, that was the big one.

But they did not tell LeBron.

They did not tell LeBron the team was being sold.

They also had a meeting after the season ended that was Polinka, JJ Reddick, Luca,

and Luca's agent.

And LeBron was not invited, and it was basically a meeting talking about

who Luca wants to play with.

Essentially, LeBron, you no longer get to do these things that you've done for your entire career, which made sense at the time.

But I feel like this is heading for.

I don't think LeBron's playing for the Lakers next year.

This feels like

it feels like a move that they knew that was going to piss LeBron off.

Correct.

He was going to find out about it.

But it also makes sense because they have Luca.

They have to start building the team around Luca.

Like,

LeBron deserves any way that he wants to go out because of what he's done in the NBA and how long he's been so great.

But if you're the Lakers,

you can't just let him hold you hostage for the last couple of years of his career and not try to build a winner around Luca.

And he's an expiring contract for the first time in his career this year.

Yeah, and Drake covered up his LeBron tattoo with an SGA tattoo.

Really?

You see that?

No, I didn't.

Yeah, I used to say it was the high school jersey that LeBron wore.

He covered it up with a shitty SGA thing.

It looks terrible, but it also feels like something that Drake did just to piss LeBron off.

Yeah, that's a change.

Well, that's because LeBron danced to Kendrick's

not like us.

He went to the pop-out.

yeah he went to five to the pop-out

wow what a beef great weekend in sports tough offseason what a what a great weekend in sports if drake covered up my tattoo on his arm I'd be like thank you Drake yeah I appreciate that

but yeah it does feel like it's maybe over for LeBron in

Los Angeles but where Cleveland but where that's the problem where

what if the league retired him

no I mean he'll obviously play somewhere yeah I feel like it has to be it has to be Cleveland he can't add another jersey.

No.

If he does that, that's weird.

Destroy the legacy.

It would.

That makes his legacy ratio really bad.

Oh, his legacy ratio would be tanked.

Yeah.

All right.

What else?

What other big stories happened this weekend?

Is there something going on with golf?

Yes.

People were pissed about the Scottish Opener?

Scottish Open.

Were people pissed, golf guy, Hank?

People were pissed?

About the Greens or something?

I just saw, like, Rory was mad, then Scotty was mad.

I don't know.

Scotty was missing putts.

He had some very funny reactions.

Like, he literally had one where he was shaking his fist.

Like, ah.

Okay.

I don't know.

I think when pro golfers play bad,

they might lash out a little bit.

Yeah.

Or amateur golfers.

Yeah, any golfers.

But Goddard Up won.

Good for him.

Goddard up.

I think he might be.

He might be in AWL.

Really?

I think he might be.

Let's go.

So shout out to Goddard Up.

Maybe hit him with DM.

Got her done.

Hit him with a DM, Zach.

Get your DM warmed up before the end of the show when we DM this chick.

Hit up Goddard up right now.

I can do that.

Yeah.

And just hit him up and be like, AWL, question mark.

Just feel how it goes.

That'd be devastating if he wasn't.

Yeah, there's really no sports going on.

Not a lot of sports going on.

There was a Katie Taylor Serrano fight.

Yep.

Katie Taylor won again.

Okay.

It was a good fight.

They just punched each other in the face for...

I don't like the two-minute rounds, though.

Yeah.

I don't like that.

It doesn't give you enough time to get in the flow.

Yeah.

There was the jockey race.

That was awesome.

Jockey race was great.

We have the TV.

The TV is not even on.

I was going to say, the jockey race was sick.

What was that?

Peru?

Yeah.

Those guys were so slow.

And I mean, they're running in, like, if you ever looked, if you've ever been on a racetrack, the mud is so much deeper than you realize.

And put their tiny little legs.

The tiny little legs.

It was the most adorable race.

We need to have that all the time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would like to see them try to eat a hot dog and run 100 yards.

Ooh.

When's that video coming out?

I don't know.

I don't know.

We did do that.

We did.

Out in Tahoe.

Yeah.

And we crushed it.

Mm-hmm.

All right.

We got anything else?

This is the worst week in sports.

Everyone for who's back.

Should we just go to Who's Back?

We're going to do a great Mountain Rushmore.

I will say, too, Trevor Lawrence is the man.

I think we found that out.

Like, he,

whenever we interview someone we haven't interacted with before, we're always a little nervous.

Like, does he get it?

He got it, and he's the man.

He is the man.

Oh, at the actual Tahoe, the American Century Championship, we had Pavelski.

Yeah, Badger.

Former San Jose Shark.

Badger.

Pavelski won.

John Smoltz, I think, came in second place.

Taylor Twellman.

Jake Owen was battling.

Rich Eisen came in last for men.

Yep.

Marty Fish came in, what, like...

Top 10, I think.

Top 10.

54 points.

Charles Barkley played well on Friday.

Yeah, he did.

I think he shot, what, a 37 or a 38 on the front nine?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, I mean, it's...

It's a very fun tournament.

Rob Mack did not beat Charles Barkley.

Not even close.

Not even close.

tie was the best it's not real life no it's it's not

it's just not real life it's not even seeing it on tv i was watching the tournament today and i was like watching on tv doesn't do justice how preposterous of a place that is right like you can see it on tv and you're still like if you're there it's you feel like you're in a different planet max and i went to on a boat on saturday and we found a like a lagoon that had essentially looked like you were in the caribbean that's how clear the water was actually oh we can talk about that, Max, once he gets figured out.

We have a question for you guys.

All right, go.

Just get out of here.

Get out of here.

Scram.

Scram.

Beat it.

All right, so here's a question before we do the who's back at Mount Rushmore.

Hate me.

Have you guys.

Max is the worst.

He's the worst.

He was screaming about Ranger Swores in the bar, and there was like kids around me.

That's really what the fuck, dude.

Really inappropriate.

Ranger Swores has a 1.94 ERA.

Have you guys ever seen, and this is maybe going to make Max and I seem like not boat guys, and I'm fine with that.

Have you guys ever seen

a grill on a boat?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fuck.

Acon.

All the time?

No.

I think I've seen it precisely one time.

Okay.

All right.

So it's not, it's pretty rare.

Yeah.

I've seen it a couple times.

Okay.

There's boats that come kind of with the, it's not set up all the time, but you can't.

Yeah, he

did the whole thing.

So we were in this beautiful Tahoe lagoon having a great day, and Max and I, and it was like a bunch of us, and Max and I were just locked in on watching another man grill.

And we were like to the point where all the women on the boat were like, dude, what are you guys looking at?

We're like, we're looking at this grill.

Like, he's grilling steak.

He's doing it.

To the point where I got drunk enough that I just jumped in the water and I swam over and I complimented their grill and they just started feeding me food.

Just tossing in the water.

Oh, it wasn't your boat.

No.

Oh.

No, it was another guy who's parked next to us.

Like you were a walrus.

Came up.

100%.

I didn't get out of the water.

They were just feet.

Max watched this whole thing.

They were putting the food.

They were my best friends now.

I was mesmerized by the grill.

It had like a little stick that you like twisted into this attachment on the boat.

Outboard, yeah.

And it just looked like a little tailgate.

Whoa, tailgate grill.

Yeah.

That, I mean, there was some great smoke coming out of there.

We had fragrances coming from across the lake.

And it wasn't like hot dogs, and, you know, it was steak.

Like Max was like Pepe Le Pue on the boat.

Dude, that's definitely hot dogs.

There was a lot of women that were also on that boat, and me and Big Cat just couldn't stop looking at the grill.

They were booty shaking.

We're like, we don't even notice these women.

It's the grill.

I just want to say that's probably the height of coolness is parking a boat in a lagoon and busting out a grill and cooking steaks.

It's a strong move, and I think most boats don't have it because you can't have a fire on a boat.

If the boat catches fire, you're fucked.

He had the little propane.

It was so cool.

It was so cool.

And like I said, I went over and I just, I was being honest.

I was like, I love you guys yeah no i said i was gonna go over like a seal and i was like i love your guys' grill they're like you guys want some food i was like yes i do and then i just started throwing meat into the water yeah big cat big was just catching it and then i tumbled it and i almost drowned because i was i was very drunk and i was trying to chew while swimming not a great combo no all right that was that was big that was pretty much the biggest sports weekend uh story there was the guy with the grill who didn't recognize us, so he's not even going to hear this.

But that guy rocks.

It's just the height.

I don't know how you can get better than that.

That's a good boat.

Yeah.

That's a great boat feature to have.

Great fucking boat.

I still don't really understand how it works.

Still kind of blows my mind.

I also don't understand why more boats don't have grills because you're surrounded by water.

So if it does catch fire, okay, you got water.

It's also, you never have to get off your boat if you have a grill.

Yeah.

You have everything there.

Just live at sea.

Yeah, he was like,

he was doing a great job chefing it up, and he was just washing his hands in the water

in between each course.

So, all right, that was a boring story, but I really, there was not a lot of sports.

I watched another documentary about the Titan sub-guy.

Oh, yeah.

Which one?

I'm starting to come around on that guy.

Listen, he had a vision.

He had a vision.

He was going to do it.

And he just said, fuck it.

And then he knew that the sub wasn't going to work.

But he also didn't want to ask his investors for more money.

And he was like, fuck it.

I'm just going down.

Yeah, I don't know if I only watched one of the two, I think, that are out there, but I think the moment when everyone in his company was like, hey, this is a really bad idea, and then he's like, all right, well, you just don't work for me anymore.

That was, it was like, this guy kind of rocks.

Anybody that would say, hey, you know that giant crack that we just heard?

I think maybe we should look at the hull and see if it's still operable.

He goes, you just don't have an Explorer mentality.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He just fired.

He just fired everyone who had, who, who thought of a little bit of health and safety.

Yeah, you're not DTS.

You're not down to sub.

You're out of here.

Also, the fact that he named it the Titan and then went to the Titanic, and then they asked him on the CBS.

By the way, here's how you know how badly things got fucked up with the Belichick CBS Sunday morning thing.

Yes.

They interviewed this guy on CBS Sunday morning, and they asked all the relevant questions about safety.

And the guy was like, Yeah, you know,

I do see some irony in the fact that we're taking it on a mission to see a ship that they said God himself could not sink and then it sank.

But I'm telling you, this sub, God himself actually couldn't see this one.

Not only that, the guy, the CBS guy, got on the sub.

Yeah.

He went down with him.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

You're absolutely right.

Jordan is actually, yeah,

she's better than the Titanic.

She's better than

the Titanic.

Right, Hank?

Way better.

Way better than a Titanic.

Okay, let's do Who's Back of the Week.

Then we'll do our Mount Rushmore.

Then we have an awesome interview with Trevor Lawrence before we get to Who's Back of the Week.

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Okay, Henry, who's back of the week?

Who's back of the week is Derek Lewis.

Oh, yeah.

UFC fight Saturday night.

I was on a bachelor party, so it was like, you know, the last fight of the night.

Big underdog, Derek Lewis, most electric press conferences.

TKO'd him in the first round.

Big underdog.

And then...

I mean, we ended up watching all of his greatest hits of post-game interviews.

Like, he's one of the funniest ever.

Hot balls?

Yeah.

But

he was on the phone with Trump right away, like, right before Rogan interviewed him.

And then he got off.

He said, what Trump's saying?

And he goes, you were saying this hope.

Dude, he's electric.

So funny.

Yeah.

So, so funny.

You watched the whole UFC card?

Yeah.

How was the Bachelor Party?

Give us a whole recap.

Bachelor Party was good.

I lost every bet until that one.

Horse racing is tough.

You were in Saratoga.

Well, no, horse racing with horse.

I'm talking about the UFC UFC card.

I mean, horse racing and UFC fight betting is pretty similar.

Yeah, horse racing.

You just kind of hope.

Yeah, yeah.

Just hit it and hope.

Yeah, hit it and hope.

Horse racing, I mean, Saratoga's great.

Bachelor party,

it's a perfect place for a bachelor party.

It feels very old school.

Yes.

Just go in, tailgate, bring coolers, go in and out.

Great time.

It's a great place because it's Saratoga and Lexington are the two places you go when you know there's a horse weekend because you'll like be in line for coffee and people will be talking about the races.

Like it, it takes over the town.

That's what I love about it.

I feel like that's where old football coaches go when they retire.

Oh, yeah.

I was like, I'm just going to

track every single day.

Wait, so what, give us the recap of the UFC card.

This is our UFC expert, Henry Lockwood.

That was really notable-wise.

Like, I'm trying to, you know, go through my memories.

There wasn't much else other than I was losing every fight.

Okay.

Okay.

Any other big knockouts?

Any other big storylines?

They kept showing the commercial for Max Holloway uh next week and i was like oh is this coming up tonight yeah and i was like no that's next week

okay i'm excited for that fight though but oh so you're hooked who's he fighting uh covington okay kobe covington no who's the guy that was at uh beer games

poor oh dustin porrier is the man yeah i okay so is max holloway so that so that so you're in for next week so will we have a recap on next monday show yes of that fight michael chandler was the one who was at beer games got it oh michael chandler but is he fighting michael chandler is he fighting dustin he's fighting poirier he's fighting poiri poirier is also the man louisiana guy yep is your recap next weekend going to be just as good as this one

probably probably maybe maybe worse

well the big recap was you saw a commercial No, Derek Lewis was the recap.

Derek Lewis was the recap.

The recap was, he gives great press conferences, and I watched all his press conferences.

Which is, yeah, that's a great recap.

Good job, Hank.

You are now, I think Hank, Henry Lockwood, UFC expert, would be a good golf guy, UFC.

You're a niche sport guy.

Well, because UFC fans are going to get so mad.

Oh, yeah.

Well, golf guys get mad, too.

They do.

So it's perfect.

We'll just get you in those, maybe WNBA.

We'll throw WNBA in there.

I don't know about that.

Oh, I got that one on lockdown.

You have some takes on that?

No, I don't want to have takes on that.

Okay, all right.

I like my job.

Okay.

All right, PFT, your Who's Back of the Week?

My Who's Back of the Week is Uno.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uno is back.

The card game.

So apparently, one casino in Vegas is going to be bringing Uno to their card tables.

Yep.

So they're going to have three different versions.

They're going to have Uno Golf.

They're going to have Uno Teams where you play teams of two.

And then Uno Show Them No Mercy, which is a bunch of cards, and you win by getting rid of all your cards or by knocking all the other players off the table.

But it's going to be a thing called Uno Social Clubs, which is going to be awesome because I feel like there are going to be people that go to Vegas that have never played the standard table games that go to Uno and they just absolutely dominate.

There are going to be some rookies that dominate.

Here's my only question.

And I can't say I've played Uno a lot recently.

But is it one of those games kind of like Monopoly where if you played by the actual rules, it would just take forever?

It can take a long time, yeah.

I hate those.

Because like i have you guys ever had that moment where you've had you've had to play monopoly with someone who actually plays by all the rules and it literally will never end it's not nearly as bad as right but it's monopoly can take like days

yeah

also i think no i don't think uno can take longer than like 30 minutes even if you play by all the rules it's it's still a manageable game okay yeah yeah we should we should do a live stream of uno like the world series of poker yeah world series of uno yeah i bet people would watch that that was my my who's back of the week was world series of poker because i don't know if you guys saw but I don't understand the poker world,

but I do like anyone who's causing a ruckus.

And this guy,

William Cassif, I believe is his name, the British guy.

Have you seen any of these clips?

He essentially just, he got banned from all World Series of poker events for the rest of the year.

That rocks.

He finished 33rd.

I think he won like $300,000.

But there was like this big controversy of guys calling clock on him, and he was talking shit to people.

He also got a penalty for calling calling a guy a bitch.

I'm in on it.

That's cool.

But this is a problem.

From everything I've read, and I'll, this is kind of like Hank's UFC.

I read maybe

eight to ten tweets.

So I'm pretty much an expert.

I feel like the World Series of Poker is going to do the opposite thing that they should do.

They should embrace this guy because these type of people and like the Phil Helmuth, like the, or who was the guy, Matasow?

Was that the guy who would, who'd yell at people?

Helmuth was annoying.

Helmuth was annoying.

I think

Mike the Mouth.

Mike the Mouth Matasow, whatever.

This is old school poker talk.

But you need personalities.

You need people that are aggravating.

You don't need people who are robots who are playing by an algorithm and just going through it.

And he's British.

And at least he plays hands.

He just doesn't turn in all his hands.

Well, so this is the other thing.

He didn't show up.

He showed up an hour late the last two days.

And people were like, why would you do that?

because he's just giving away big blinds he's like he's like i wanted to get sleep i had only slept two hours and he's like i just got a better payout because i just gave i gave a little donation and then when i showed up i was like a few people were eliminated and i had a i was higher up in the standings so he's he's a bad boy i like that he's a big time bad boy poker needs a bad boy yeah and he was arguing with uh i guess yeah you can call clock on someone and then if you get the clock called on you you get a strike and then it if you get like a couple strikes the clock then becomes 10 seconds as you have time to make a decision.

I think that's crazy.

That's preposterous.

This is one of those things where if one guy does it, it's good to have a bad boy, but if everybody played by that same standard, then it would just completely suck.

But there are, he is, from everything I've read, again, eight to 10 tweets, kind of an expert.

He's the only one.

Everyone else is a robot algorithm who plays

the Mincey's.

They fold everything.

They only play the hands that are like statistically guaranteed.

It's not poker.

I want to watch some swagger.

I want to watch some bluffing.

I want to watch some table talk, some shit talking.

I missed the World Series of Poker back in the day when they had the guy that just wore the reptile glasses.

Moneymaker.

No, that's not.

No, Fossilman.

Fossilman.

Yeah, yeah.

Just rocked the reptile glasses at the table.

Yeah, Fossil Man was awesome.

One of those guys, Moneymaker, one of them did something.

Well, no, maybe they didn't.

Yeah,

they might have.

Either way, I think I stand with this guy.

Because I saw enough positive,

hey, he's not doing anything wrong.

There was a couple negative, but I just ignored those.

Cassif.

Yeah.

Is his name?

William Cassif.

He's a British guy.

Yeah, I say Free Cassif.

Yeah.

He hadn't slept at all.

He was going to,

they even said that they're like, haven't you slept like four hours in the last three days?

And like, do you really think that you should be trying to make these arguments with the casino staff?

And he's like, listen to me.

I'm locked in as I could ever be.

He's just going a mile a minute.

I'm going to boycott.

I think he might have been having a little bit of a breakdown, but that made it interesting.

I am not.

I'm going to boycott the rest of the World Suzer Poker this year.

And all the satellite tournaments.

And I would have watched every single second of it.

Yeah.

When is it over?

Never.

Is it still going on?

Still.

Yeah.

All of July.

Let me see.

Okay.

World Series of Poker.

I'm implementing a self-boycott.

All right.

Hold on.

I'm going to tell you how many people we got left.

Because then they just sit there and they just

fold and they fold and they fold and they fold.

All right.

Filibuster real quick while I find this.

I wonder if Phil Ivey's in.

Is he still in?

Does he play pay?

Oh, he's out?

Oh, Ethan.

One man.

Yeah, one month trial.

Ethan outlasted him.

That's nice.

Yeah.

Payout calculator.

This is their website.

Okay, no, this is part of my boycott.

Two BBs, Queen Jack, King.

Who?

What?

I don't know.

I enjoy.

I don't follow poker at all, but I

enjoy seeing when our people work there and they do these breakdowns of their hands, which make no sense to me.

He got rivered, sounds like it.

But it's very funny just hearing poker guys do poker talk.

It's like, yeah, you know, I had a good hand, but then I got two BBs versus six and a queen, and

the river flushed me out.

Sounds like he caught the turn.

Nothing like that.

Yeah, that was part of it.

He lost on a bad hand, I think.

I don't fucking know.

I actually think that hearing people describe their poker beats might be more boring than hearing people describe their dreams.

Oh, yeah.

What about

someone?

For some reason, I can't get enough of it.

What about someone describing shot by shot their hole?

That's a pretty bad one.

I love that stuff.

Yeah.

That's pretty bad.

Unless you've played that course.

Yep.

Because you then you get to be you can visualize it yeah no yeah then you respond with well when i was on that hole i remember that tree that was a great par yeah all right i can't find whatever

it's still going on and it's going to go on forever and it's never going to end but free william cassif sure yeah uh zach your who's back of the week my who's back of the week is going to be counter-strike cases specifically opening them yep uh after a couple of weeks ago nadesha tim tap man went about 3200 cases in a row without pulling a gold item So they decided, okay, what we'll do is we'll just go back to the business.

I'll just go funny as that.

I love your who's backs because I try to take in as much, but I already have a million follow-up questions.

But keep going.

From my understanding, from what you've said already, it sounds like something happened to Tim the Tatman that made him look like a loser.

So this is no loser activity.

These are all big winner activities.

Well, great activity, fun activities, good activities with the boys.

So on a redemption arc, Nadeshot, Tim the Tatman, Oni Pixel, XQC, Aero Aero CS3, Sparkles, and TDMH Jesus.

That's the sixth man who competed in it.

I did mostly watch a Nadeshot stream, but they went

CSGO case unboxings,

$590,000 in cases they unboxed.

Okay.

Unprecedented territory is what we're approaching now.

What is it unboxing?

It's cardbreaking, but a video game.

What do you mean?

It's basically buying a pack of cards via inside inside of the game.

And then just call it cases.

Sounds like a lucrative hobby.

and then what do you do when you get one that's good so the thing is there's a marketplace so in these cases you're looking for uh so there's different uh different uh levels right so like white light blue blue purple pink red gold like on a scale yeah and then also there is uh like where like the where of the item comes into play so like factory new or like heavily worn but these are in this the game these are skins in game yes so you can get one that's not necessarily meant 100 yes do you send it off to get graded or it tells you right where you go It tells you there's a decimal point system where it tells you how heavily worn this item is.

Usually you want to go for the least worn, want to go factory new, but sometimes when they're really worn, they start to change colors.

It's a whole thing.

It gets a little vast.

When I said loser about Tim the Tatman, I should probably rephrase it.

I liked him a lot, but it's very funny when he's doing something and then he gets sad.

I think it's kind of like people that watch us when our teams lose.

Like watching the Dallas Cowboys and Tim the Tatman lose a game, it's kind of funny.

Yeah.

By the way, just as a quick break, update: two dozen players are left in World Series of poker.

Okay.

And that update came from Zach, who has a mic in front of him, but texted me.

That was a wrong call.

I should have just put the mic on.

My computer just popped up and said, two dozen players are left.

And I had to think, what are we talking about?

Oh, yeah.

World Series of Poker.

All right, back to this.

But on the Tim and Tatman note, there, he did pull the best item of the unboxing.

He pulled a sticker worth $26,000.

Wow.

So this, so, all right, dumb it down for me.

Very famous streamer guys unboxing cards inside of a game, failed a lot, lost a lot of money, then got one awesome card.

So they did end up losing quite a bit of money, about 80% of the return.

But it was awesome just because it was the biggest case opening of all time.

And it was like, it's more so about the journey, right?

It's about watching the ebb and flow of the case openings.

It was pretty sweet.

Yeah.

So how long was the case opening?

This one, I think, went for like 10 or 11 hours.

Oh, wow.

I believe so.

And they're just doing it rapid-fire?

Just ripping cases.

One guy goes about an hour.

Another guy goes.

We're looking for golds.

We're looking for AKs.

AK, AK, AK, please.

What's an AK?

AK-47.

What about the knives?

I thought the knives are good, too.

Yes, if you pull a gold, you can get gloves or knives.

Nice little crambit action.

There's quite a few knives that go.

And these, it does sound.

I see where you're coming from, but like a lot of these skins can go for like hundreds of thousands, if not like millions of dollars.

No, I'm not judging this.

I'm more trying to follow along.

And it is, they are skins, but the video game card break.

Yeah.

Do you know what the most valuable thing ever pulled out of one of these packs was?

I don't know off the top of my head what it was, but I do know it was roughly around $1.2 million in my research earlier.

I am new to skins as well.

I just enjoy watching the streams of the case openings.

Got it.

And they broke the fictitious record, but it's the biggest case opening ever, world record.

Okay.

Okay.

So who's back?

I would say Nadeshot's back because he went 3,200 cases

without getting getting any golds.

And then you got the lottery ball.

Yo.

Got it.

People in the wild.

Listen, we need more people in the wild asking us about Memes lottery ball because that was fun.

It's kind of crazy.

There was a lot of people asking, will he ever get it?

All right, good.

Who's back?

Memes, did you appreciate that?

Memes people care.

Yeah.

I appreciate it.

Yeah.

Don't get mad at it at all.

Are you going to be taking their advice?

I do take some people's advice.

Did anyone give you a number?

No, no numbers.

People DM me numbers.

So, what was their advice if they didn't give you a number?

Just get it.

That's pretty good advice.

Just pick the right number, memes.

That's really good.

It's really not that hard.

Yeah, mainly people just DM it.

Just think what would Nadeshot do?

He lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Is that correct?

He lost several tens of thousands of dollars.

Tens of thousands of dollars.

But the journey got him to the point where he got the sickest skin case.

He didn't get the sickest.

He was just there for the biggest unboxing.

Oh, so

he did spend a moment.

So Nate Shot, if we're doing the same,

it's just like Hank got it.

He lost a bunch of money on the blackjack table, but then you got to watch me win a bunch of money on the blackjack table.

He got it.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

Which is probably fun.

Yeah, that's a great feeling.

Yeah, that does.

That's what

when you lose a lot and then you watch one of your friends win, you're like, yeah.

Sick.

But again, that's his job, though.

Yeah, he's being changed.

People are watching it.

And he's hanging with the boys.

Oh, with the boys.

He did spend roughly around $95,000 $95,000 and made back $9,300.

Okay.

But he's with the boys.

He's with the boys.

When are you going to start streaming?

I don't have the...

I run into a lot of dead air.

I don't have the capability of constant.

Does that make sense?

Is that talking?

Yes.

We can get you going.

Yeah.

I think you're going to start streaming.

I think there'll be good chat for you.

I think we're going to start supportive chat.

I've been telling him since he started on PMT that we got to get him streaming.

We're going to get you streaming.

We're going to play the Marvel Rivals.

You know what?

Maybe, Zach, maybe what we'll do is

we'll play some college football.

You could play with me, and then you could see that it's really not hard to stream.

I appreciate the invitation.

I think that could be fun.

Yeah.

You get your feet wet.

It's not, it's fun.

I mean, the chat's going to be ruthless, but who cares?

It's like, no,

the chat will fucking love this.

Yeah, but you know how it will happen.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It flips so quick, Max.

It flips so quick.

No, no.

You know that.

You know that.

No, the chat is going to love you.

Zach,

what are your top three video games?

All-time, probably Call Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty, Black Ops 2, and then I'm going to go Pandemic Warzone with my three rounded out.

Okay, which one of those would be best to stream?

Call of Duty.

Marvel Rivals.

Warzone.

Yeah, Marvel Rivals.

The Rivals is already a thing.

I want to get Sharknado up all up in your ass.

I also heard that Memes is great at college football as well.

Yes.

Great at Call of Duty, too.

Ooh.

Hank's in the COD tournaments, I heard.

Yeah.

A couple of those.

The big boys.

You got a double kill.

I played with Optic, yeah.

Fuck yeah.

All right.

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Let's do our Mount Rushwar.

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Okay, let's do Mount Rushmore.

Okay, Mount Rushmore time.

It is 11.11.8.

So memes and Max, PFT and Hank both have 11.

Their teams have 11.

Zach and I are still looking for our first win of the season.

We're still, still just desperately looking for that.

We're in third with eight.

We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of worst places to be when violently hung over.

Steve Wozniaki, by the way, the king of Mount Rushmore, maybe the lowest vote received of all time.

Steve Wozniak?

Oh, Korniaki?

He said that.

I said it was going to be

called that.

Yeah, but you guys kept trying.

You were way off in your prediction.

No, I'm giving

you

6%.

You're like,

I think I know how these things typically play out.

You are.

That's That's right.

Yes, because I said I was going to lose.

You sounded very arrogant, Max.

How do I sound arrogant by saying that we were going to lose and then we lost?

That is correct.

What are you upset about?

You diminished me and Hank's Mount Rushmore.

I said that we were going to lose and we lost.

You also talked a lot about our Mount Rushmore.

No, I don't.

No, I don't think that's true.

You are completely.

You are choosing to remember something that just didn't happen.

I know.

But I'm saying that our vote got a lot more votes than their votes.

Oh, I see what you're saying.

So you got one point and we got one point?

I see what you're saying.

Yeah.

I see what you're saying.

You Italian?

What?

You got, I mean, that was

Steve Wozniaki.

Steve Wozniaki over here.

But I was right.

You were right.

You were right.

Listen, it's contentious.

It's Mount Rushmore season.

All right, who goes first?

I think we do.

Steve Wozniaki and Crew.

We go first.

We go first.

I look like Steve Wozniaki.

And I'm like, that's very mean.

You guys.

Okay.

So Henry,

what do we say, Zach?

My phone might die, though.

Zach, what do we say?

Oh, no.

Stay strong, don't break.

So stay strong, don't break.

Nightmare.

Nightmare for me and Henry.

Stay strong, don't break.

All right.

Worst place to be violently hungover.

And this, we should preface this.

You cannot drink at this place.

Yeah.

Like a lot of these places, sometimes you might go there, and if you can drink, it's not as bad.

This is under the

guidelines of you're not allowed to drink if you're at this place.

Okay, I didn't know those were the guidelines, but okay.

But that makes sense, right?

Because some places

are going to be like oh, well, if you just go there,

we took off some places.

We made choices based on like if someone could say, Well, you could drink there, we will we're not going to pick it.

Well, I don't like you can't pick a bar and not like it there

there has to be like it can't be the main reason of that thing is drinking.

Like

okay,

yeah, okay, we're first, right?

This will go well.

A long flight

is our 1-1.

And to your point, you cannot be drinking on this long flight.

Right.

But that's not the point of.

No, that's what you're doing.

You know what I mean?

That's what I meant.

That's what I meant.

Because some people would be like, well, if you're hungover on a long flight, just drink.

You can't do that.

But you can't do that, yeah, right, right.

I was on a flight back from Hong Kong after I went over there with Donnie to go to the Rugby World Series Sevens, and I was coming down off MDMA, and I got on a flight in Hong Kong, and we flew all the way to New York non-stop.

I did not get up to pee until we were on final approach.

That's how violently hungover and dehydrated I was.

And it was the worst experience of my entire life.

That's a good pick.

One time I was super hungover and then I was running late to get to the plane.

So I got a burrito and a couple sodas

and then there was like a journalist that was sitting next to me that was like documenting how hungover and disgusting I was the entire time.

That sounds awesome.

That sounds great.

Yeah, no, that was tough.

Today I was in an Uber to the airport, and I farted.

I thought it was, I didn't realize how bad it smelled.

It smelled horrible.

And it was a small Uber, and I was like, oh, sorry, man.

Turn the window down.

Because it literally smelled so bad.

He rolls the windows up, and he's like, no, AC's on.

And just sat there.

I couldn't believe it.

I could not.

Did you stink?

I could not believe it.

Just sat there and ate it.

It was wild.

It's also a wild move to pull a heat check on a fart inside of the car.

I also think it's a wild.

If you're a passenger, you should be able to do what you want with the window.

Wow.

Oh, with the window.

Yeah.

No, no, no, not farting.

Not farting.

I'm not farting on everyone.

No, no, but I feel like if you're the passenger and you want the window down, the guy should be like, okay, yeah, you can have that.

Yeah, I'd agree with that.

I'd agree with that.

Anyway, I'm going to go with R11 PFT.

Okay.

Funeral.

Okay.

That funeral's bad.

Funeral's bad.

Okay.

Have you ever been violently hungover at a funeral?

Yeah.

Okay.

Not great.

Didn't have funeral.

Bad day.

Yeah.

Is that why you said you can't?

It would be a bad place to be hungover.

I just can't say that I don't know.

I can relate to that.

But theoretically, yes.

Yeah, for sure.

Zach, what do we want?

I mean, we've got to stay strong.

Don't break.

I agree.

You the list as well, right?

Yeah, yeah.

So 4-5 or

1 all play well.

Yeah, yeah.

Let's go 4-5.

All right, we'll go easy.

Work.

Just being hungover, violently hung over at work is fucking brutal.

There's just nothing worse when you're just like, I have to sit here all day, be violently hungover.

Everyone kind of knows you are.

And

it's any situation where you can't lay down and sleep.

That's really what we're talking about.

And then

this has never happened to us personally, but I think it would really, really suck.

I think being violently hung over and waking up in jail would suck really bad.

Yep.

Jail.

Yep.

Memes.

That was

fun.

Yeah.

That was the memes pick

would be very bad.

It's not a fun time.

You

think 10 or 3?

I thought you were going with it.

I thought it was you.

I thought this was your Mount Rushmore.

Wait, what was the first pick overall?

On a cross-country flight.

Long flight, yeah.

Okay, so Hank, I think we go with

maybe number two on our list.

You see that?

I thought it was Hank's Mount Rushmore.

It's our Mount Rushmore.

Oh, but you said he had the ball.

Yeah, yeah.

It's just teamwork.

Just go for it.

It's just teamwork.

All right, we're going to go with your girlfriend's parents' house.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good one.

Can it be girlfriend slash in-laws?

Yeah, yeah.

In-laws.

Yeah.

The TV started to work just randomly.

Yeah.

And now we're just watching a random commercial.

It's a good pick.

Yeah.

They wake up, maybe

you're in a childhood bedroom, like a brother's brother's room.

You're terrified to go downstairs.

Yep, you're late.

Sucks.

You're late.

They're already doing something.

You just want to, the last thing you want to do is speak and have small talk with your girlfriend's parents.

Yep.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Good pick.

Good pick.

Our third pick is going to be

school if you're in college and you just have to go to class for some reason that next day.

Terrible, terrible feeling.

We had specifically taking a test.

Yeah.

It was like the test.

Something that

you have to be there for and you can't skip it.

Yeah, I would be hungover for regular class, but like a test would just kill me.

Yeah.

Why are you laughing?

What are you laughing about?

I'm laughing at 50s answers.

Which one?

15.

Oh, yeah, 15's a good one.

It's a really good one.

Zach had a great one that I can't wait to share.

It's not going to make the cut.

Pick number three, a child's birthday party.

Good one.

Good pick.

Just screaming.

Okay, children, but children.

I would like to say that I actually disagree with this, but this is a personal thing.

A child's birthday party is actually not a bad place to be hungover because they have an activity to do.

It's a big deal.

I'm just saying, when you show up to a kid's birthday party, now if it was your child's birthday party, that might be different.

But personally,

when your kid has a birthday party, it's a fucking savior because you just show up and they get to just play with their friends in a confined area and you can just sit there.

This might be a little bit different as like the uncle, like memes and I are both uncles.

Got it.

It's a little when you have your own kid, I get that.

But like when you're going to like one of your nieces or nephews' birthday parties and you're not around screaming kids all the time.

Yeah.

And then you have to be like, holy shit, this is child overload.

I just know personally when my kids have a birthday, it's like, great.

Saturday's set because they're just going to go play at this birthday party and I can just chill.

I think the worst profession to go to work hungover at would be a teacher.

Like an elementary school teacher.

That's when you wheel the TV out.

That's when we're watching Magic School.

Oh, big time.

Big time.

Bill, Bill, Bill.

Yeah, get ready to learn Bill 9.

All right, PFT, I'm going for it.

It's our third pick, right?

Yep.

We're going to go with a workout class.

You signed up for it.

Maybe your girlfriend signed you up for it.

You went out the night before.

That's like a choice.

You still have to pay, but you paid for a lot of the time you paid for it already.

So you wake up, you're like, well, I already committed to this.

Yeah.

I'm just going to go and sweat it out.

And then once it starts, you want to die.

What are you saying?

Talk to the mic memes.

No, no, no.

I'm thinking

future pick.

Oh, okay.

And sometimes it might be like, this is the start of me getting into shape.

And you make that commitment the night before.

And you're like, you know what?

I'm going to do it.

I'm going to start working out.

And then you follow through the next day and you get into the class.

And everyone knows that you're hungover.

Okay.

Your sweat smells like beer.

Okay.

Good pick.

We had something similar.

All right.

So kind of, Zach, I think I'm going to go with, I'm going to let you do the last one, but I'm going to go with the one that I think we workshop this because we brought up kids' birthday, and I explained to Zach that, like, taking my kids to a birthday and being hungover is not a big deal because you just sit there.

But what would be a big deal is Disney World with your kids.

That would be hell on earth

because then you actually actively have to parent and chase them around and worry about where they're being and stand in lines and eat gross food.

Disney World with kids would be.

I actually don't think that there's, I've never been to Disney World as a kid or an adult, but I think that that might be the worst place in the world.

Yeah, I went once when I was, I think, five.

Yeah.

And all I know about Disney World since then does make me seem like it would be a terrible place to be hungover.

Yeah.

Because you also have to pretend to be really excited and happy.

Yeah.

Wait, Zach, should we go with eight?

I just realized eight's still there.

Well, you're not talking in the microphone.

I think eight is good.

I also think ten is good.

And

13 as well.

No, 13 is not good.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, no, that would blow this draft.

We're doing a pretty good job.

We're staying strong.

We're not breaking.

Okay.

You're right.

You're right.

That was almost a break.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think we go eight, you think?

Yeah, I think we just stay.

We're staying right in the middle here.

We have strong picks.

Long car ride.

Super long car ride.

Fucking brutal.

It's a good pick.

That was going to be similar to a long flight.

It is.

Yeah.

It's just slightly more comfortable than a long flight.

A little bit more comfortable, but then you you also have to deal with traffic, which sucks.

That would be like a delay.

Yeah.

Long car ride.

No, car rides are way more comfortable than

there's always a gas, there's always a bathroom break on the plane.

Those things are not always there.

You can stop

whenever this you can't get off a car.

You can't fight for yourself.

Sometimes you're in traffic.

You can't just get out.

No, you can't get it.

You can always pull out.

No, not in traffic.

That's just unsafe.

We're getting hit by cars.

That's unsafe.

I've got.

Pulling over.

What?

You can pull over to the bottom.

Sometimes in the traffic jam, there is no pulling over.

Don't listen.

Don't say that.

You know, sometimes there's no pulling over.

Are you guys arguing that you can just pull over anywhere?

Easier to sleep on a plane

if you're

this is wrong.

No,

unless you're driving.

Well, yeah, you could be driving hungover.

Okay, fair.

Fair.

That's fair.

But it's part of a long car drive.

Okay.

There's been many times when I've been hungover and had like five hours to drive after

a weekend.

You are not allowed to make this pick.

You choose to drive over flying almost anywhere.

I love driving.

Hungover driving sucks.

I do love driving.

I do.

I appreciate you fighting for your pick, but I know you don't fight.

I'm fighting for Zach more than anything.

He's got to stand up for himself.

No, I like you.

I like you guys.

Well driving.

I mean, ours was also a 1-1 pick.

This is a pick in the fourth round.

Both of those things can be true.

Good value.

Can we ask Steve Kournacki?

Was fourth round pick?

Yeah, no, it was great value.

It was a good pick.

Zach, I liked you you trying to say that you can't get out of a car.

In some circumstances, you're in

the car.

You always got to wear the belt.

The plane, you literally can't get out of.

You might also, wait a minute, you could also take the belt off in a car.

No, but you might.

The lights on.

You might be middle seat.

Maybe they just stopped.

I would have taken a different approach, Zach.

But

I'm trying to.

I know, I like it too.

I like it too.

I can't wait to tell you guys what 13 is.

I'm 50.

I like R13.

I like R8.

And I like R4.

Okay.

I like R 7 too.

Okay.

We'll go 7.

Up to you.

Balls in your hands.

Ball's in your hands.

Hey, Hank.

All right.

With our last pick,

we're going to go with At Your Own Wedding.

Had it on our list.

Good one.

Had it on our list.

Tough hangover.

Brutal hangover.

But you can remedy it because you're going to start drinking again.

But yes.

Eventually, but you have to battle.

It's supposed to to be a great day.

You got to do a lot of talking.

Small talk to everyone.

We had it on our list.

Good chance that you pass out.

It's a good pick.

I'm addicted to watching the compilations of people passing out at websites.

They don't bend their knees.

You lock up.

Yeah.

Okay.

Max?

Our last pick will be a sports practice.

Okay.

Memes and I, both college athletes.

You guys wouldn't really get this, but

I played football.

I played rubbish.

It's like the worst feeling ever when you try to be like a normal college kid and then the very next morning you have to go get screamed at,

run for days.

Actually, I realized I was not going to be a college athlete.

It was at fallball, hungover.

Yeah, it's the worst feeling in the world.

I have one story where I got super drunk in New York City, came back the next day.

I was so drunk that someone

told me to get a job because I was trying to bum a cigarette off the street from someone in New York and they thought I was homeless.

And then I went to practice the next day playing first base base and I took a ball straight to the chest, which is almost impossible to do when you're playing first base.

It didn't hit my glove and somehow went straight and just crushed me in the chest.

Damn.

My friends on my team will remember this right now.

It was a tough set.

But it is, it's kind of like the workout class, but you have, there's 0% chance of skipping.

You just can't skip a practice when you're an athlete.

Do you guys want to know what 13 was for Zach?

Yeah, I do.

Laser tag.

LaserTag would suck.

I think it would suck too much.

LaserTag sucks anyway.

Yeah.

No, Laser Tag's fucking.

No, it isn't.

No, Laser Tag rocks.

Laser Tag.

When's the last time you guys played Laser Tag?

It's too long.

Exactly.

Yeah, we should do it.

I think we

should be more excited.

I feel like we should make a video playing Laser Tag.

It always sucks.

Go play Laser Tag this week.

Paintball exists.

Yeah, but then

it's the competitiveness of paintball without having to worry about being hurt.

Nope, my favorite part of Laser Tag is when they sit you in the pre-briefing room and the teenager paces back and forth in front of of you like a drill sergeant telling you the rules that's the absolute best uh will not run in the arena the uh the one that i was trying to work my head around that kind of is like too long to explain but i think is a really really bad one is when you have when you are on vacation and you're hungover and you have a late flight but you have to check out so you're basically homeless yeah like seven hours hungover maybe even having to wheel your bag around like oh we can go to this we can go get lunch and then then you look at your clock, you're like, I still have five more hours before I have to be at the airport.

That's a terrible place.

We're going to just find a place to sit down and read for a little bit.

Yeah.

Because all you want to do when you're hungover is lay down.

And it's like you were given, you had a bed and you had to give it up.

Sneaky, there are some vacation hangovers that would make this list, I think.

So obviously.

You could figure out a word.

Yeah, if you're at a base.

Just get an exercise vacation.

Or, yeah, if you have an activity

on the hike.

Yeah, you're doing a hike or you're going to see a museum.

Yep.

Whatever that would be.

That's a bad hangover.

All right.

What else for honorable mentions?

So I had, so opposite of the kids' birthday, Dizzy World, I feel like, was stronger pick, but parenting with no set plans is a really bad hangover, like really bad, where you don't have anything planned for your kids on a Saturday or Sunday and you're hungover.

That sucks.

Because then you're just like, what the fuck do we do?

We had at the Super Bowl, sitting in direct sunlight, watching your team lose.

Yes.

That would be a bad hangover.

Yes.

We had getting pub stomped with your boys.

Yep, that'd be bad.

Hank, do you want to say number 13?

Because I don't know what this means, but I love it.

Behind enemy lines.

Imagine waking up hungover behind enemy lines.

That would suck.

That would be horrible.

That would suck.

You're absolutely right.

Worst case scenario.

You're hungover and you want to just go home and not only can you not go home, you're

kidnapped.

There's a war.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're a prisoner of war.

People are trying to shoot at you.

Similar to the one you said about the sun

in your eyes, I think just being hungover like thousands of miles from home after watching your team lose a big game.

I've had that a few times in my life, and it's fucking brutal.

Where you like wake up, and you're like, now I got to get home, and it's the hangover, but it's also just thinking about the loss.

Yep.

Also, being super hungover and going into a really big game also can tell from experience.

It's very bad.

Actually, my buddy and I once, it was like a combo because we had to leave our hotel after the Rose Bowl, and we just walked to LAX like 15 miles.

Because we're like, we have nine hours till our flight, and we just walked.

That's tough.

And it's not a walk you should do.

We had

in Hank's hotel room the morning of the Super Bowl with puke on your shirt.

We had to.

Means and I almost just did all of my bad hangovers.

Oh, you remember when you lost your phone?

Yep,

that was the same day.

I'm surprised court wasn't put out there.

We had court.

Court would be bad.

We had DMV.

Church.

Yeah.

I also thought.

Zach said gender reveal party.

Yeah.

Would suck.

Well, I feel that's okay.

Yeah.

You're going to get some adrenaline boost.

That's just like a party.

Yeah.

You're going to get an adrenaline boost.

Yeah.

Contact sports.

Contact sports.

I thought about this just now, but at like a doc, like a physical, and you have to explain to your doctor how much you drink in a week while you smell like booze, that would be tough.

We had at a really loud brunch.

Yeah.

So we thought of that, but then we're like,

it's kind of a drink, but there's always somebody at the brunch that is violently hungover, especially if it's like a big group trip.

And it's always the worst experience for them.

Yeah.

We literally discussed that one.

We're like, but you'd have to be drinking.

Just outside on a sunny day with no sunglasses.

Yep.

No matter where you are.

How about this one?

Because I was thinking about this one.

I feel like it would be hell on earth, but also you're like, you kind of sign up for it.

Outdoor music festival, one that you like, a bonnaroo, where you sleep over, but you then have to deal with port-a-potties.

Like, you're up at 6 a.m.

Yeah.

You just got to get drunk again again.

Dentist.

You've done that, almost puked.

That's a good one.

On a bus.

On a bus.

Going to the dentist.

Bus ride is pretty bad.

Yep.

Moving.

Moving is a good thing.

I feel like

you can plan better than that, but I have definitely moved, hungover.

And it's bad.

You ever do yard work

hungover?

That one is not.

Yard work is like kind of gives you a little fresh air, but yeah, that would be bad.

It depends on what type.

Are we talking like bagging leaves?

Like, that's, you know, that kind of fun.

You jump in the leaf pile.

Trimming trees.

I think mowing the lawn would be okay.

Yeah.

I was super hungover at my own graduation in college.

Yeah.

That was not, that was not fun.

That's everyone.

Yeah.

Just sitting, listening to the most boring person in the world talk.

I didn't go to my college graduation.

I graduated in the winter, and I told my parents there just wasn't a winter graduation.

And there was.

Yeah, there was.

There was um

let's see late we did laser tag uh

uh thanksgiving thanksgiving's a tough hangover day and that is one that everyone's hungover for

like having to to be with family all day you just start drinking again but it is kind of a tough one I never understood why why Wednesday was so much bigger of a night than that Friday yeah that Friday seems like a much better idea yeah in a random person's house that's happened

Sure.

Yep.

You guys have had that?

Yep.

Oh, yeah.

Girlfriend's roommate's bed.

That was another one that Nees wanted us to pick.

That's a good one.

That was a tough one.

I once slept in an abandoned frat house in Charleston, South Carolina on a bachelor party.

That was not fun.

It was so cold.

I've never been more cold in my life.

Did you have a blanket?

No.

It was abandoned.

On the ground?

Yeah, I was sleeping on the ground.

We couldn't get back.

It was before Ubers.

We couldn't get back to the house.

And we were just like, fuck fuck it, we'll just try to sleep here.

And then I woke up and I was shivering when I woke up.

That's very spooky.

Yeah, it was not good.

I'm not proud of it.

Shout out to House.

I don't even know what it was.

I had Qatar on my list.

Yeah.

Not a good place.

Not a good place.

Escape Room, Zach said.

Yeah.

Which difficult.

No, I actually think that's a great

spinning.

That's a really good one.

Any sort of team-building activity?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The hospital.

The hospital.

Good pick.

Yeah.

Museum with kids.

Museum, just in general, is terrible.

Any place you have to stand.

Shopping.

Shopping.

If you can other,

terrible.

Like an Ikea trip or like a Home Depot trip.

The container store.

I don't understand the container store.

Don't get it.

It's terrible.

All right.

I think we got a good list.

Amusement park?

Amusement park.

Yeah, that was our Disney World kind of

the Gravitron specifically.

Steve?

Steve Wozniaki.

The Gambling Cave?

Why do you...

After Tua throws an interception and Frank's in town?

Oh,

that's a really good one.

That's relatable, too.

It is champagne problems, but being in the gambling cave hungover sometimes can be hell.

Yeah.

What about the U.S.

Open in the gambling cave when you fall asleep for like the most important holes?

That wasn't even a hangover.

Oh, really?

That was just a nap?

That was just a healthy body.

That was just you on your Moo Dang shit?

Yeah.

You got to get validated.

He's Moo Dang.

All right.

Yeah, Steve.

What do you got?

I don't know.

I'd have to see the graphic.

I don't have any strong opinions on this.

I also don't want to get into a habit of doing this after every Mount Rushmore.

But I like Memes nice picks.

Okay.

All right.

Kind of soft, but that's really soft.

Incredibly soft.

Sounds like you you don't have conviction.

No.

Well, I mean, I had a conviction, and then I was right, and you still got angry about it.

I'm not angry at all.

I'm not mad.

I was mad.

You texted in the group.

That was a scheduled text.

I scheduled that text.

For what reason?

Just check in.

I thought if something happened to the Phillies in the trade deadline, that was bullshit.

Yeah,

you were duped on that one.

But I mean, that happens a lot in the chat of when one of our teams

makes a a big move, it's like, hey, congrats.

Yeah, and I was, I had no service where I was at, so I couldn't, like, Twitter wasn't reloading, but I was, but I was still receiving text, so

it was a bad spot.

It was a bad spot.

It was something so stupid like that.

Like, I don't give a fuck.

It's a great way to fuck with your boys, though.

Just send them a chance to do that.

No, that is a good way to fuck with your boys.

Wait, what is this text you sent us?

The Zed Us Never Dead?

That was the night that I was super fucked up and then had to go to practice the next day.

That was the night that people thought I was homeless.

All right.

Let's do our interview with Trevor Lawrence.

Really, really cool guy.

Like, he's the man.

So, great interview with Trevor Lawrence.

And then, on the other side of Trevor Lawrence, we'll finish the show.

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And now here is Trevor Lawrence.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest.

It is Jacksonville Jaguars starting quarterback.

Trevor Lawrence.

Trevor, long time coming.

I know that we've wanted to have you on for a while.

It's good to see you.

Let's start with kind of an easy question.

How are you feeling health-wise?

Because obviously, last we saw you, that was fucked up.

That hit.

Are you feeling okay?

Feeling good now.

Yeah, I recovered.

Thankfully, you know, I'm out playing golf, which is a good sign.

Let's say I had left shoulder surgery in December.

So between that and then our daughter was born January 4th.

So it was like back-to-back.

It's crazy for the last few months, but feeling great now.

Shoulders all healed up, ready to go.

Okay.

How does that affect a right-handed quarterback if they have a left shoulder injury?

Because we hear about it, like I think Baker had one a couple years ago.

Yeah.

We're like, oh, it's just not his throwing arm.

He'll be fine.

He can go out there.

Well, it's like with getting hit for one, I mean, that's one, obviously, big part of it.

But I think throwing too, like you use a lot of rotation in that left side.

Like you're straining and pulling that side through.

So like I played against Houston when I got knocked out of that game.

Like I played in even that game, like I had some plays where it's like I couldn't throw it out.

I wanted to because I couldn't couldn't really like pull with my left side.

So it's just all right arm.

So it does affect.

I mean, obviously like minor stuff you can get away with and play and you're fine.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So feeling healthy, that's good.

I feel like this is a big year for you.

Do you feel that like not pressure-wise, but like, hey, this is a year like if I'm going in healthy, I feel like, you know, you got a new coach, offensive-minded.

Do you feel that?

Or is it just like

same as every year?

You try to treat them all the same, but I mean, realistically, like where I'm at in my career, I'm going to year five, you know, been in up and down

so far, the first four years for me.

And just our team and our situation I've had, you know, this is my third head coach I've had, a lot of turnover, a lot of change, but I really feel good about the situation we're in.

I love Coach Cohen and the whole staff and everyone that's in, all the guys that were brought in free agency, just good dudes, good players too.

But I really feel like we've done some great things this offseason as far as just speaking offensively, like the changes we've made, the system we're running, I have a lot of confidence in.

This system is, I mean, tried and true.

The LA and, you know, Minnesota runs it now with O'Connell, all those, those teams, and they have a lot of success with it.

So it's a great system for quarterbacks.

And yeah, I mean, like where I'm at in my career, year five, like it's time to, time to go and start winning consistently and be not just that team where it's like, you know, you're always like, no one really takes you seriously.

You know, you want to be that team that's always competing for playoff Super Bowls and you're in the hunt.

So that's, of course, that's, I mean, I see it through that lens of like, yeah, it's year five.

And, you know, I feel like this is like getting into my prime.

Like I got a lot of good years left ahead of me and I need to really turn it on.

And I think what we've built around me and what they've done this offseason has been a great start.

Yeah.

You guys have some weapons, defensive back, Travis Hunter, wide receiver, Travis Hunter.

He's our guy.

He's our guy.

I like the handshake that you guys.

Did you guys talk to Travis?

I saw something.

No, so we dead on him to win the Heisman at 40 to 1 in August, and then we just talked about him on every show.

That's pretty awesome.

That was a great bet.

That was a great bet.

To the point where our fans hated us for it, but we won the bet.

That was a lot.

Yeah.

He was clearly the best player in college football.

Actually, I was looking it up.

I actually, we've been doing this Heisman thing for a while where we're like, oh, we have a pretty big voice.

We're just going to bet on something and hope we can talk our way into it.

I actually think that you might have been the start of it for me in 2020.

You should have won the Heisman because I went back.

You had me?

I went back, I looked at my tweets, and it's literally like every day I'm just like, oh, yeah, Trevor Lawrence is playing great.

He should win the Heisman.

I played like nine games that year, but he had the COVID year and I missed two.

Yeah.

So it was like, yeah, it was.

Devontae had a great year, though.

you but you were

you finished second place and you weren't too far behind yeah no that was uh that was a wild year yeah no travis is a stud no i had your back there so appreciate yeah i was all

so yeah who came up with a handshake between you and you and travis so it all started with uh we did an adidas commercial together And it's a sneak peek.

I don't know when that's going to come out.

Probably soon.

And that was part of it.

So it was like, it's a little bit manufactured, but

yeah, he's good at that stuff.

And they let him dance and do all that.

uh that commercial was a little bit of that i'm like all right he's got it yeah so he's he's got a big personality he's got a lot of expectations i think they said uh he's a culture changer but also a sport changer like he was going to change the future of football have you seen something out of him where you're like man this guy this guy's transcendent

yeah i mean i think that's uh

I mean, that's a big, that's a lot to think about as far as

player.

But I will say, just my interactions with him, I mean, he's unbelievable as far as like the condition and shape he's in.

I mean, this guy can run all day, plays DB, plays receiver.

Like, he'll run, he'll run a post route or whatever and say, we'll miss it, or I want to run it differently.

I'll run it again.

Just come right back.

And other guys, I mean, everyone I've played with is like, no one does that.

It's not shade on anybody else, but it's like no one's trying to run 50 yards full speed again right when they just did it.

So it's stuff like that.

He's a super hard worker.

just a good guy.

Like you can tell he doesn't have a lot of like,

you know, issues going on and stuff where it's like he's distracted.

Like he just seems very focused and like, you know, sticks to himself.

He's great.

Is there any part of you that when you're like training camps coming up, are you going to try to pick on him as a DB so that they're like, he's not ready as a DB and he's got to play with him?

I said that.

So his first day over at DB, I was like, we're throwing every ball at you.

Yeah.

He's, he's pretty freaking good at corner too, though.

But yeah, he's, he's, uh, I mean, it's like a guy like him, he could do whatever he wanted to do.

I mean, it's going to be interesting.

And then I felt like, how

much can you play both ways?

I don't know.

It's been done before, but it's been a while.

So, I mean, if there's a guy that can do it, he can do it.

But we'll see how that plays out.

But yeah, definitely.

That first day, I was like, I'm throwing every ball at you.

So you don't, so you come back to offense.

Yeah.

So the

wait, no, go ahead.

I forgot the question I was going to ask.

Fuck.

Okay, I got you.

I had a question.

I got it pulled up.

God damn it.

No, I had it.

Fucking, it just escaped me.

I'm such a fucking shithead.

We talk about.

I'll let you know when I get it.

Obviously, we talk.

Oh, I remembered it.

Okay, there we go.

i'll go after okay

i feel like no i got it in my head i'll keep trevor who would you like to ask this next question that was my next question i feel like you got it he's got it okay he's up all right he's on deck all right so when we have a quarterback on the show we say the things to them that we say on the show when they're not in front of us all right so we have our annual quarterbacks rankings list that we put together last week all right let's hear it Where do you think you should be?

It's a tough question.

Tough question.

You know, if I'm,

obviously, I've only played eight games last year.

Yep.

Not my best season.

So you basing it off last season?

Yep, right now.

I mean, I think I should be top 10 quarterback, but where I think you guys have me at, do you want that answer?

Yeah.

I bet you guys have me at

15.

14.

14.

But close.

That's the good quarterbacks tier.

Yeah.

We listed you as a good quarterback.

Okay, I appreciate that.

And we also did the

tier below that.

We'll change these rankings from game to game.

Yeah.

So like Jordan Love.

Yeah.

Sometimes he'll be great, sometimes it'll drop down.

I can't imagine you spend too much time just thinking to yourself, like, what number of quarterback am I in the league?

Yeah, I usually look at all those and just think about those.

Yeah.

Not too much time.

There's a lot of rankings out there, I'm sure.

Yeah, it's great.

All right.

The question I forgot that now I remember.

Better be banger.

Why didn't you guys give any space to your dad on draft night?

You were squishing

so tight.

That was.

Did you post something?

Yeah, I posted it.

I mean, you guys.

What did you say?

What was the.

I said, you have it.

I remember this, and I was dying.

I mean, it was crazy.

I said, can we get Trevor's dad a little nut space to talk about squeak?

I mean, he was.

Oh, my gosh.

That's.

I feel like.

No disrespect to your dad, but you guys basically made it like he doesn't have a penis or balls.

The way you made him sit is.

Well, I'm here, so I can, I think it works.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

Good point.

Good proof.

Dad's just such a nice guy.

He was selfless.

He wanted to give the couch away to me, Marissa, my mom.

just just a stud it's insane it is that picture's crazy did you see it after and you're like oh yeah he's hitting this one right here he's also he's also sitting there and you can tell he's not comfortable yeah no you guys squeezed the hell

so did you apologize after no i did i did i think i showed him that after i'm like he was just like shaking his head didn't even say anything

yeah i mean big team player that's a great dad selfless man yeah He basically was like, I'll just sit here and just crunch my nuts.

Sacrifice the nuts for the draft.

Thank God you got picked first.

Imagine if you had

imagine if you had dropped like the second round and he was just

being castrated live on TV all night.

Five hours.

That's true.

At least you did that for him.

He hasn't had any more kids since then.

True.

Might have stopped it.

That actually is a good, that's a good point.

You do have it.

I'll talk to him after this to make sure he's all right.

Hey, how are you shooting him?

He says that.

Check on him.

You have a very good brother, by the way.

Yes.

Your brother seems like...

I don't know really anything about him besides the fact that he's an artist and he looks way cooler than me.

And so whenever we see him, I'm like, that's a guy I could show with.

Yeah.

He's, I always say, my brother is way cooler than me.

So we're, I mean, we're very similar personalities, but just different interests.

And so like, like you say, he's an artist, doesn't care about sports.

Like, he'll watch my stuff, but like, that's it.

Like, he probably doesn't even watch the Super Bowl or anything like that.

He doesn't watch anything.

So he's, it's cool having a brother like that, and we're super close, like best friends.

But yeah, we, we talk the exact same, but he just looks completely different.

Like when you were growing up, was there a moment where he was like, I'm not into sports anymore?

Because it is kind of crazy to have a NFL quarterback, a starting NFL quarterback, and then a brother who is same size and he's an artist.

Yeah, he was, so he's four and a half years older than me.

And my parents knew like all my, my whole family's into sports.

My dad, my mom, my uncle's, all of them.

So they're all into sports.

My brother, they got him into sports when he was young.

And this is actually a great segue.

He, there's some great stories about my brother and like going to the wrong dugout and baseball games as a kid, like playing in the dirt.

I remember going to some of his like wreck basketball games and he's sleeping on the bench.

The coach is like pissed.

It's like, get off.

He's just like waking up, you know, so it's crazy stuff.

So then they eventually were like, all right, finish the season and then you're done.

Like you don't have to play anymore.

So he just, after, I don't know, maybe he was like nine or 10, he never, he didn't play sports.

Well, it's a credit to your parents because like to have two sons that are that different, that's really cool.

It is.

It is.

And he's been very successful.

Him and his wife do art together, which is cool.

They work on all their pieces together.

So it's like for them to, I mean, that's a hard, it's hard to be a successful artist.

So they've done a good job.

Do you have any of his art in your house?

I do.

I have a few things.

I have a huge, I wish I had a picture.

I probably do on my phone, but like a huge jaguar tiger.

He's like crossing through this like doorway, like changing from a tiger.

It's pretty sick.

It matches like the office, like this dark green.

It's sick.

So he gave that, or him and Brooke gave that to us a few years ago.

That's awesome.

I got a tough question for you.

It's going to be hard for you to probably explain it because we're just regular guys.

Dabo, can you explain him to us?

I can try.

Yeah, I can try.

From the outside, you understand he's quirky, but obviously he's a great coach.

Win national titles, like you, you know, you win a national title with him.

He wins other ones.

What is it that makes him tick?

And

what is special about him?

He is,

first of all, I love the guy, like genuinely.

I'm not just saying that because I've played for him.

He is awesome.

And I say too, like there's a lot of people, there's a ton of people that love him.

There's a lot of people that don't like him just for whatever reason.

But

what you see really is what you get with him.

He doesn't put on a fake

personality.

That's why sometimes he'll say stuff in the media.

I remember when I was there and he'd say stuff in the media and people would kill him for it.

And he just doesn't care.

He's just always honest and just his energy.

He's not an offensive coordinator.

He wasn't a coordinator.

He was a position coach straight to head coach.

Went from receivers coach to interim head coach.

That was his transition.

So he wasn't, he's not like the biggest.

He understands the game.

He's not a huge X's and O's guys, but he's like motivator, vision.

Like our team meetings would be so long.

But I mean, there's times where it's like, all right, this is, this is long.

But honestly, like he kept our attention.

great motivator like he would he would make you believe like you could do anything like our team we'd be like dude we're going to, like, it didn't matter who we're playing, like, we're going to kill these dudes.

And, like, it could be a team that's better than us.

I mean, I didn't have much on our team.

We had some good teams at Clemson, but like, he was awesome.

I still talked to him once a month.

Yeah, I mean, and obviously, like, Clemson, before Dabbo gets there, like, they were good, but it was also the joke of like Clemsoning and, you know, always being good, but not great.

And then he took it to another level.

So it's clear.

For sure.

And he also, the thing that Dabbo deserves a ton of credit for is he broke up.

Like, he was the guy who won other than Nick Saban in that era.

Like, Nick Sabin dominated college football.

Yeah.

And Dabbo was like, no, I got teams that can compete.

100%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's like, I feel like with head coaches, it's always a balance of, like, you have some head coaches that are just very cerebral.

They just think football and they kind of miss that motivational leadership aspect of it.

And then he is kind of like the opposite.

And I think that there's, there has to be like a fusion.

So if you're like that, he's done a great job with his staff.

Like he's hired.

I loved all of our coaches at Clemson, offensive coordinators, position coaches.

Obviously, we got great players.

He's a great recruiter like you want to go play for him.

It really is like he sells the family atmosphere of Clemson and then you get there and it really is like that like it's a it's a great place to go to school

But man, he's he's a stud.

I love him.

Yeah, did you use the slide in the facility?

I did I got yelled at not like every day though I got yelled at for going down the slide.

So you went down it?

Yeah players only.

Oh, and they were like someone yelled at me like you're not supposed to do that.

I was like, well, I'm already down.

It's probably a it's probably like an insurance.

It's probably a liability thing.

Yeah.

I just saw a slide and I I went break something and sue the sue.

I just went for it.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

That wasn't a player's only slide.

Like, you didn't have a hard and fast rule?

No, I mean, I think it's like

people in the building, like players.

I think coaches can use, you know, like, but you have coaches with Tabo on there.

Oh, yeah, he'd go down it.

He'd probably go down it just like for fun.

Yeah.

You're in the break between meetings.

He's also a great TikToker.

Yeah.

Hickory Dickory Doc.

That's a classic.

That is a classic.

Hickory Dickory Doc.

the mouse ran up the clock.

Coach Sweeney's got that drip and now he's on TikTok.

What was your reaction when you saw that?

That's a tough one.

With the gloves on and the bowl, though?

Hickory dickory dock.

The mouse went up the clock.

Coach Sweeney got that drip and now he's on TikTok.

But that's like actually him.

Just like cringy stuff.

And he has no shame.

Yeah.

I like that your answer is that like he doesn't he doesn't hear the outside noise because I think guys like that, they can just stay themselves and they don't get changed by people being like, that's lame or

weird.

And it's like his belief is so strong in what he's doing.

It's like

that stuff doesn't affect him.

There's a lot of people where when things start getting tough, they kind of waver and go up and down.

And he's just always the same.

He's always on 10.

He never changes.

Coach is going viral for being cringy on TikTok.

That's way better than your coach going viral for, I don't know, like grabbing somebody's butt after a game.

That would be awkward.

That would be really awkward.

Hypothetically.

It'd be hard to see.

Hypothetically.

Hypothetically.

Yeah.

It would be a tough, it would be a tough team meeting for sure.

Yeah.

Dude, I don't know how you thought of that.

Yeah, yeah, it's all hypothetical.

I bet the group chats that you might be on would be kind of crazy waking up to those in the morning.

Yeah.

Crazy.

Crazy rookie year for sure.

Your new coach,

Coach Cohen, who we had on, had a lot of fun with him.

When you first met him, did you bring up the Duval thing?

I feel like you got to do it just to be like hey i'm going to say it once and then we can move on so i but i met him before that okay and i was i was there that day but i missed no no no i was in there i was in that press conference actually okay so it was like there was there was a bunch of the i think there was like five or six of the guys that were in town that went and they all met him and talked to him then we went to the press conference and yeah we uh I honestly didn't give him too much.

I didn't give him, I didn't give him too much heat on it because I know everybody else was.

Yeah.

So I'll let him breathe a little bit on it, but I think he's coached up on it.

Did you guys, did he do one on?

Yeah.

It improved.

Yeah.

Same one or the, or the...

No, it improved.

We talked you through it.

It was also the eyes.

The eyes.

That's what I told him.

It was the eyebrows, which was the one.

It's actually impressive that he can do that.

I know.

I know.

I can't do it.

Did somebody teach you how to say Duval?

Yeah, it's like, I think when you get there, when you're drafted, you got to do a big one on camera.

I don't know if they still do it.

I haven't seen the rookies do it this year.

Yeah, you got to get them.

There's been some funny ones.

What's the trick to it?

You got to go deep.

Yeah.

Do

you got to deep?

Yeah, that's good.

That was good.

Do you feel additional pressure carrying on the legacy of Blake Bortles?

Good question.

Blake is the man.

He is the man.

He is the man.

He is the man around Jacksonville.

I have not met one person that doesn't like Blake.

Yeah.

He is the man.

And I haven't, unfortunately, I haven't hung out with him that much, but I see him from time to time, like golfing or at the beach or whatever.

He's super cool.

Brandon Lender, I don't know if you guys know that name.

He was a center, but him and I played with Brandon Lender my rookie year, but they came in together, him and Blake.

And Linda's the man, but they're like best buds.

So you tell me all about Blake and a bunch of funny, crazy stories.

But dude, he's, he's awesome.

Everyone, the boat.

Yeah, he's the boat.

That's what everybody knows him as.

Would you let us stay at your house without you being there?

Yeah, I would.

Oh, okay, cool.

You too?

Yeah.

And our crew, yeah.

Yeah.

Because that's what Blake did for us.

Uh-huh.

He did that for you.

We went to the beach?

It was at the beach.

We went to his house.

Text Beach.

We texted him.

We were like, hey, we're here.

He's like, oh, shit, I forgot you guys were coming.

Like, I'm out to dinner.

Here's the code.

Just let yourself in.

I'll do that.

Yeah.

It was so cool.

You were like, it wasn't like, oh, stay at my house for the week.

No, we stayed for a night.

Okay.

But he was.

Put us up for a night.

Yeah.

But he hung out with him.

He came back.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, definitely.

That's just the type of guy Blake is.

Yeah.

No, that checks out.

I love that interview with him with that girl on

the construction worker.

Well, and then he retired from the NFL to build his own house.

Yeah.

Rip SIGs and do construction.

He built his dream.

He was trying to be friends with the construction workers.

Dude, I love that.

Yeah.

I got some buddies that play pickup basketball with him like every week.

Yeah.

Yeah, I haven't made it out there yet, but I heard it's a great time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I want to talk about the

playoff game, the comeback.

Incredible game.

How did you not quit?

Because I would have quit.

I would have been like, this is crazy.

I'm going to down so much, this is pointless.

I think, I mean, I wouldn't quit.

I mean, that's.

Yeah, well, that's a different

NFL.

Yeah.

Yeah, I

wouldn't quit.

But I mean,

it was looking bad.

I mean, it really was.

I think that drive at the end of the first half, or I know, that drive was huge.

We went and scored right before halftime.

So it was 27-0.

And we had four turnovers, like, through four picks every possession.

Finally scored, and we're like, all right, we did something right.

And then, I mean, you got to think about, too, like the defense.

We gave up three points in the second half.

Yeah.

So it's like, if we gave up a touchdown, we lose.

So they had to lock in, too.

So we, and then we scored every possession.

Yeah.

It was an incredible game.

Dude, I don't know.

And we didn't even say much in the locker room.

It was just like, we scored and was like, all right, it's one possession at a time.

Like, we got to just find a way to get back in it.

And then we scored another time.

We got to stop.

And then now it's, you know, it's 27, 14 or 30, 14.

I was like, that's not bad.

Like, now we're back in the game.

And we just got hot.

It was almost one of those things.

I've been in the position too, when you're winning.

It's like you're trying so hard to not lose.

I think that's what LA did.

It's like you're trying so hard to not lose the game.

Yeah.

You lose the game.

You start calling the game differently.

Yeah, like offensively.

I don't know what they're doing on offense, I didn't watch all that stuff necessarily, but even defensively, got like pretty conservative.

Like the first half, they were just like crazy pressures, crazy, funky stuff that they haven't done before.

Um, and they got us on a few things, and then the second half, it's like they were just like, All right, we're gonna back up, we're gonna play a lot of zone, we're just gonna try to, and there was just too much time, so yeah, like everyone, everyone on that defense looked like they were scared to make a mistake.

Like, they knew that you guys could do it, and you knew that you could do it.

Yeah, once we once we scored and made it 14, whatever, 27 or 30, whatever it was, they were like, they weren't talking at all.

Yeah.

They were talking

so much shit in the first half because they were killing us.

And then we scored a couple of times and they're like saying nothing.

The whole defense is just like, oh, God, let's just not lose the game.

Yeah, hopefully the clock ticks faster right now.

Our coworker, John Gruden, he came on here and he told us about Andrew Luck and how he had the best snap cadence that he'd ever heard.

Did a great impression of it.

And then we had Andrew Luck come on and he did it in person.

He made me and Big Cat jump off sides.

But is that something that, like, you're going to the NFL?

Do you work on your snap cadence?

I had to work on it because

I did a lot of clapping.

You did the claps?

I did clapping.

Disgusting.

That's not a lot of stuff.

Pretty effective.

You know, it sounds the exact same on one or two.

Right.

Yeah.

But no, I, so I had to work.

I never, so I never called plays in the huddle besides goal line.

Like goal line, you get big personnels, you go under center.

hand it to Christian Wilkins or something like fullback.

Like that stuff, you get in the huddle, call the play.

But I never went under center or called a play or did a cadence really until i got to the nfl so all that was like blew my mind like some of the play calls that are 20 words like that was a huge adjustment was that the hardest change or was it because i mean obviously everyone talks about the speed but what was that the hardest jump from college to nfl probably

i mean yeah the this the speed all that stuff like the margin for error is a lot smaller the guys just aren't as open like you're throwing to typically like you're not throwing to wide open guys like that's just that's a change but I think yeah the mental

like

I guess what you have to do as a quarterback mentally is a lot different than college like what I was asked to do so that was a big change like even the run game like changing stuff knowing exactly what's going on the run game like changing the the point adjusting it getting to like your second play running two we never ran two plays in college like we would do the fake cadence and then look at the sideline like does the coach want to change the play yeah if not you just run it you know like stuff like that but and we signaled everything but like like having the two plays in one adjustments in the run game, and then you change it to a play action or a pass, like all that stuff was a huge adjustment for me.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Back to your overall health right now.

I said that you're feeling good.

We're feeling at maybe as healthy as we felt in a long time.

Have the Jacksonville Jaguars made the investment in an injury cart so that you don't have to walk two miles injury cart?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

Cart.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We have some.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

That was tough.

we felt bad for you at the time.

We were watching on TV and we're like, put this man on a cart.

Dude, that was

like, so I was kind of close to that one tunnel.

I don't know if you guys, where I was on the field, I was close to one, so I'm like, I'm going to walk off.

I'll be fine.

Then we're barely walk off.

But then when I got in the tunnel, it was

a Monday night game, I think.

Yeah, it was.

It was in Cincy, but I think it was Monday night.

It was a prime time game.

So they had cameras in the tunnels.

So that's where they got the money shot of me like limping down the I didn't think there was any cameras in there.

Yeah.

So I they offered me a cart, I will say but you're

you're a tough guy tough guy I mean I shouldn't have been knowing that that like what turned of it like I should have just gotten the cart but I was like I was like if I'm fine and I got carted off like that's like something you don't want to do yeah that's the worst yeah that's true it's like it's like that uh who did that was it uh Paul Pierce Paul Pierce.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's like he pooped himself.

Yeah.

He did.

Yeah, it's like if you get carted off, then you come back.

I had a guy in college, get carted off, like gives the thumbs up, like, you know, like, I'm all right, guys.

Like, you know, then he comes back out, like, seriously.

It's like, dude, honestly, like, trying to avoid that.

If I was in the NFL, very first play, I would get stretchered off and then I'd be like, oh, I'm actually not hurt.

I'm hurt, but I'm not like injured.

Okay, I'll try again.

I just do that every play.

Do it every game.

Everyone thinks you're done.

Then you just come right back.

Yeah.

Our friend Trill Weathers always, I always think about his funny tweet where he's like, if he got injured, he wouldn't do the thumbs up, he'd do the thumbs down because it's like, dude, this sucks.

Yeah.

I'm getting carted off.

Someone breaks their leg and gets the thumbs up.

You're like, it's not good.

It's the best when, like, it obviously sucks when injuries happen, but when one of the, like the chain gang gets hurt, rolled up on, and they give the thumbs up, and it's like, all right, cool.

We were worried.

There's probably a guy right behind you that could do it.

Yeah.

Yeah, right.

Exactly.

Next to you.

Those guys, I feel bad for some.

Or like a...

Camera, someone that's a camera guy that just gets blasted.

Yeah, because they're just doing their job and then they like lose focus, or they're focused on the play and then boom.

I ran over a trainer in college,

student trainer.

Like I got pushed out of bounds.

So I did like the stumble where I stayed up and just full speed hit her.

She had a concussion.

She's out like two weeks.

Oh my God.

So I don't, she did not give the thumbs up.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thumbs down that.

Yeah.

Security guards that are facing away from the play, like they're looking at the stands.

Yeah.

They always get like the legs taken out.

Oh my gosh.

So it's in the end zone.

Go in the back of the end zone.

Oh, yeah.

Speaking of your stadium, do you ever just like look up at the pool and be like, like, what's going on there?

Yeah, the pools are funny.

You get like a, sometimes people's, you know, when you're in the water and their legs look crazy.

Yeah.

You'll see that.

I've seen that in games.

It's kind of wild.

It's because they're wearing jeans.

Yeah.

Sometimes there's jeans.

Yeah.

Those pools, I mean, I'm sure they do a great job cleaning them, but I don't know if I'd trust them.

We've been in them.

Yeah.

I've been in your

head.

It was great.

Awesome.

Doug Marone was a lifeguard.

Yeah, Doug Marone got in it with us.

So this was, it wasn't like, it was offseason.

It was offseason, yeah.

But we got in the pool.

That's awesome.

Full jeans.

I think they're keeping them with the new build.

Good.

That would be good.

It's so unique.

You got to keep it.

Yeah.

It's our thing.

Do you enjoy playing in London?

I do.

I've gotten used to it.

I mean, I've gone four times now, and in the last two years, we've played two games in a row there.

Yeah.

So I kind of enjoy it.

I mean, now, like, I have a six-month-old daughter, so that's a little different.

Like, being away from home, you know, before it'd be like Marissa would sometimes come out.

So it's great.

Like, you know, maybe see her once.

And then being in London is great.

You get a cooler weather.

We stay at a sick place.

It's called the Grove out, like in the country.

It's a great hotel.

So we have a good setup, and we've kind of gotten used to it.

But I think guys with like families, it's tougher being away from home.

But we only got the one game this year.

We play LA out there.

What's the sleep schedule like when you go out there?

That's how we base our bets.

It's like if a team leaves early in the week, then we're like, okay, they're going to be adjusted.

So we always leave late.

Huh?

And we usually play pretty well out there.

Yeah.

Which is interesting.

But we always leave Thursday night and land Friday morning.

So I mean, yeah, I feel like that's that, like for most of the teams, it's either you got to leave like Sunday night right after the game, or like you guys do it, it's the middle teams that like get all kind of fucked up.

Yeah, there's like two thoughts.

So we're going this year, new staff with Liam and the whole crew, like we're going on Monday night.

Okay.

So we're going to get there earlier.

So I don't know.

I haven't done that before.

I don't think that's bad to get adjusted either.

Because you are, you're, you're, you're pretty tired.

Like Friday you get in, you do like a walkthrough and guys that barely slept on the plane and you're just trying to catch up saturday you get the day off and then you play sunday and then you come home so it's a it's a quick turnaround but there's some arguments like you know can you really get adjusted in time even if you go early like i don't know i don't really know the science behind it but yeah um going back to the uh playoff win against the chargers the next week were you aware that you were undefeated on Saturdays going into that game?

Yeah, I'd heard that.

In your career, I didn't know that.

In your entire career.

Yeah, 36.

Pretty crazy.

Insane.

That's an insane stat.

Yeah,

I wish that would have held up.

Yeah.

That would have been fun.

Yeah.

Yeah, crazy.

It's a dumb question, but do you think maybe you didn't lose enough?

On Saturdays, especially?

Well, just, yeah.

I know that sometimes if a guy, like, they don't lose at all, and then they get to the NFL, they're like, oh, shit, you lose all the time in the NFL because everyone's really good.

Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I think it's definitely an adjustment.

You're so used to winning, so it can be frustrating.

You know, you're not, you kind of have a, I don't want to say, you have a different perspective on,

I guess, how hard it is to win when you've only won.

Like in high school, we won a lot.

In college, we won a lot.

And then the margin is so small in the NFL.

And then it's a 17-game season.

So it's like, when was the last undefeated team?

The Dolphins in 72.

Yeah, 72.

72.

Yeah, I mean, so that's been the last undefeated team.

So it doesn't happen, really.

So being able to

flush it and...

like play well the next week, I feel like I kind of, I got a good dose of that my rookie year trying to bounce back and like, because we went, what, three and 14.

So that definitely got me adjusted.

But

still, like, you want to have the mindset like you're going to win every game.

So it's a fine line, but then after that is over, you got to flush it, win or loss.

So it's a good point.

I mean, I think there's something too, though, like you want to be, like, you want to have guys that have won, though.

And like, you want to have that culture of guys that are.

Like, you don't also want a bunch of guys that have only lost.

Like, you know, you want to build your team around guys that have won.

Right.

I think there's two sides to it.

Yeah.

You just have to be able to like figure out how to flush it.

Like, do you

flush it before you get home?

Or does it take you like, you have to go to sleep?

It takes me.

Yeah.

I have to like, I have to watch it.

Like, I have to watch it when I get home.

I know a lot of guys.

You watch it that night?

Yeah.

If it's, usually it's up.

If it's up, I won't like take a launch, but I'll take like 20 minutes and I'll just flick through it.

Because there's like certain plays where I'm like.

This one, what happened on this one?

Because you can't see on the sideline.

It's just pictures.

Right.

It's like pre-snap, middle of the play, and then maybe the very end.

So it's hard to piece together everything, but I have to see like what went wrong or this decision I made.

Like, what did I, what happened here?

I saw, I thought I saw this, but it was something else.

Like, that helps me sleep when I can do that and see it and be like, all right, might have played terrible, but like, I can at least flush it and move on.

Yeah.

Does it ever get clogged when you're trying to flush it?

You wake up the next morning, you're like, shit.

Sometimes it was a tough one.

It was a tough game.

Yeah.

Sometimes

it goes into Monday.

Really, we'll like watch it.

We'll have some meetings Monday.

Then you'll really, you can't flush it completely.

Can't flush it too hard.

Right.

You got to go watch it again.

Right.

You're doing, you're doing it.

You're just doing like the flush because you're like, you know, this, like, if you have a really bad lush, like, you know, there's a big, big one.

Yeah.

I do one flush and then another flush later.

You do the pink flush.

It's like the small, yeah, yeah, right, right, right.

It's like the small button and then you do the big button on Monday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You want to you want to still be able to smell it, right?

Yeah.

Reminder.

You want to linger in it a little bit.

I clogged my hotel room toilet last night and there's no plunger, so I had to put my hand in a plastic bag.

I don't know why I shared that.

I just had to call the front desk.

I don't know why I shared that.

I don't know.

I shouldn't have shared that.

I should not have shared that.

Do you flush wins?

I put my hand in a bag and then I just

flushed

that.

That's disgusting.

Well, I mean,

it was just toilet paper, guys.

I'd already flushed like four times.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

So you're a courtesy flush?

I mean, I have to.

It's not courtesy.

It's

mandatory.

Yeah, my wife isn't here yet.

So yeah.

No, I would have done that.

I would have done that.

I would have gone to the lobby.

That's what I do.

When you share an airport or when you share a hotel room

with another, yeah, you got to go to the lobby.

You can't fucking.

With your wife, you still go to the lobby to do it.

Sometimes when you know it's bad, you got to.

You're good.

There's some shit that.

She's lucky to have you.

Listen, when you're in a hotel room, there are times when you take a dump and it will stay, like linger for.

They do seem like they stay more in hotel.

Yeah, I'll come back like two hours later and be like, who took it?

Oh, that was me.

Who shit in my toilet?

Who took my room when I was gone?

All right, I shouldn't have shared that.

Whatever.

That's fine.

That was good.

uh what do you think about urban meyer

perfect

yeah that's good transient fly just flush that yeah i i do have a question about your nickname we got to fix your nickname the prince that was promised that's too long who's so what how is that my nickname i don't know on pro football reference yeah okay no one calls me that i've never to my face i've never heard that yeah that would be very weird yeah someone's like oh there comes the prince who was promised yeah it doesn't flow there's yeah tea law works yeah that's a good one yeah

yeah lawrence of evergladia Ooh.

Evergladia.

Are you kind of close?

You're not really close to the Everglades.

Yeah.

Florida's big state.

Big state.

I really shouldn't have fucking said that thing about the toilet.

No, it's fine.

This is a free space.

But do you flush the winds too?

Do you get home and you're like,

I got to get rid of the bad plays from the winds?

Yeah, I'll watch the winds too.

I'll watch the winds too.

Will you be like, whoa, that was a sick throw.

It's nice to see the good plays.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm not going to lie.

Those are fun to watch.

Yeah.

They're fun than the bad.

But you got to watch them all.

It's like, but it's it's twisted.

You wanna, it's like, my brain is weird.

Like, you wanna, I almost want to see the bad ones more.

Yeah, you see the good ones, you're like, oh, sick, but it's like, you gotta see the bad ones.

Like, those are the ones.

If I don't watch those, like, that's, I can skip the good ones and be fine, but if I don't see the bad ones, it'll like it'll linger.

Yeah.

You have a sickest throw?

Sickest throw.

Yeah.

Um,

that's a good question.

Good question.

Man.

Good question.

Thank you.

We We can come back to it.

We can circle back.

Trying to think.

You might have flushed it.

Flushed it.

It's gone.

Let's come back to it.

Okay.

Okay.

You can just answer yes to this question because then you'll look cool.

If you had beaten LSU in the national championship, would you have let us interview you the next morning drunk?

You guys did one with Joe?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

There we go.

Good.

Good answer.

We were at that game.

Yeah, it was

LSU was insane though.

I probably would have done an interview with you guys.

Okay, love that.

You guys don't like to interview the guys that lost though it's not as funny they typically don't want to they don't really want to get into it I wouldn't know I wouldn't have done it yeah would you want to talk to us like if you're that was brutal the worst loss of your life I wouldn't have talked to you guys

after that one all right well let's go after a win though yeah yeah the positive when you guys kicked the shit out of Alabama that had to feel awesome that was a no doubter that was fun man and going into the game it's like still hey this is Alabama they don't lose these games that was supposed to be I mean that team was stacked yeah it was Tua Devontae Devontae Smith Judy Henry Ruggs yeah

Irv Smith Josh Jacobs Najee Harris

defense they they had some ballers on defense too I mean Quentin Williams

they had a ton of guys but that was supposed to be like the one of the best teams ever so we felt like Coach Sweeney another thing come at him that he was great at he always made us feel like the underdog no matter what it's like We hadn't lost all season and it seemed like no one, he made us think that everyone thinks that we suck.

So we're like, all right, we're going to show, we're going to show all these people.

You know, it's like we could be playing, you know,

Georgia Southern, like early in the season.

It'd be the same thing.

Like, these guys don't think they can beat you.

So in that game, was there a moment when, because you won 44-16, I believe, was there a moment where you're like, this is over and we got this?

Because

it did feel like a coronation at the end.

Towards the end.

I mean, probably not until we, I'd have to go back how the whole game went, but not towards the end end because they were they were really good and they had a couple they had a couple like huge touchdown plays like we went up we had a pick six early to put us up seven nothing and then they went down through like a bomb to i think it was judy honestly i can't remember who like a 60 yard touchdown so it's like they were a little bit back and forth early so we're gonna have to score a lot to run away from but yeah towards the middle of the beginning middle of the fourth quarter we were We were in a good spot.

That's got me a great feeling.

We started doing some QB runs just to rub it in a little bit.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

Great.

Would he make you feel like you're playing against wake forest you'd be like no one thinks that you guys can beat these guys yeah i mean not that exact line but yeah basically i mean that type of thought yeah yeah i love that i don't know if anyone's ever told you this but we uncovered a deep stat in the nfl goes back throughout the entire history of the league yeah okay go on listen to this long-haired quarterbacks have never won a super bowl Really?

Never.

What's the longest-haired quarterback that's won a Super Bowl?

It might be Joe Namath, and he was like shaggy.

Was Rotzelsberger had a half long it wasn't it it wasn't a long year yeah

no he always

lost yeah long-haired quarterbacks never won the big one what is this what are you going through right now mentally let's talk about it

i'll be right back

that's uh that's a that's a crazy stat yeah so you could look at it one way or the other you could be like hey i'm gonna be the first to to break the mold or

cut your hair and then you win a Super Bowl.

That's the answer?

I don't know.

Statistically.

One or the other, yeah.

Yeah.

Would you cut her hair?

I would.

I don't know when, though.

Like, Marissa likes me with long hair.

Right.

I had a buzz cut in eighth grade till like middle of ninth grade.

She wasn't a big fan of that.

So she's like, you need to keep it.

I'm like, I'm not that attached.

She's like, I would cut it, but I'm like, you know, she wants me to keep long hair.

I'll keep long hair.

Yeah.

I do.

I mean, now I'm used to it.

I don't have, I've had the same haircut since I was in 10th grade.

Yeah.

So I'm definitely more comfortable with it.

It would be nice as a man with long hair to see finally somebody who looks like me win a Super Bowl.

It's like representation matters.

I've got to flip to all the long-haired guys on my back.

Exactly.

Pause.

Yeah.

Pause.

Would you cut your hair if you won a Super Bowl?

Locks of love.

Donate to the kids.

Oh, Super Bowl winning hair would be pretty sick.

I would match.

I got to say yes to that.

Locks of love.

I mean,

I'll match.

You'll match.

If you do it, I'll match.

We got to do it together.

And we all.

I'll do it.

Max is doing.

Max just matched as well.

Wow.

Holy shit.

Just match.

Think how how many little kids

super bowl we all cut our hair all three of you yeah

how long have you been growing your hair out

uh since senior like senior of college so six years i'm like

13 years 12 years this is serious

cuts though yeah i get get trimmed up

i don't want to do i i'm only doing this if you do it just because i needed to say i wanted to match to be honest yeah no that's great

you guys put me on this well you could say no and then we just shame you for not donating your hair to kids I'm going to.

Let's circle back to this.

This is all you winning a Super Bowl.

I love it.

I would be thrilled to cut my hair.

I think you got to say yes right now.

You know what I like, though?

I like that the reason why you're so hesitant is because you truly believe that you will win a Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, you're considered.

Yeah.

Like, if you were to ask me that, I'd say, fuck yeah.

I'll be right back.

Yeah, if I'm careful.

Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, it's like, that's not a good answer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

I mean, I think we've got to circle it.

That is awesome.

You got to do it, though.

Think about it.

That's what I'm doing.

We're circling back to this.

Okay, think about this.

Finally, all your look-alikes will stop being women.

Yeah, true.

Very point.

Does that weird you out?

That's actually a great thing.

Yeah.

There was one, you guys seen the one I'm.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That one was crazy.

That one looked a lot like me.

Yeah.

And it was like, just like enough to piss me off.

Some of them, I'm like, she doesn't look like me.

Her, I'm like, damn it.

They got it.

She does look like me.

But

she was at like every game.

And it was a little weird.

I'm like, all right, can you, can you stop?

Like, we're getting off the bus for the game, trying to get ready.

And I've seen you like 10 times.

Like, dude, it was tough.

I don't know if that's worse for me or her, honestly.

Yeah.

Did your wife, girlfriend at a time, was she, was she like jealous of her?

Or was she like, that's weird?

What do you mean, jealous of her?

Like, I don't know.

Cause she's like, I would assume that if there's a girl that likes you so much, she's dedicating her life to dressing up like you.

She probably likes you a little bit too much, right?

No, I think Marissa, she definitely wasn't jealous.

She was definitely, she was more like, that's just weird.

Yeah.

Especially after the first time.

It's like, all right.

Get it.

First time I met her, I got getting off the bus, literally before home game.

She's there, jersey, headband.

And I already heard about her.

I'd been prepped.

I'm like, all right, take a picture.

Like, we do look similar.

I thought that was the end of it.

No, she came back a lot.

Yeah.

And so it was, Marissa was like, all right, it's kind of weird.

I'd say so.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a pretty spit when you have long hair.

It's like, it's probably, you're a little bit taller than me, maybe like a couple inches.

But sometimes people people see the back of your head a couple and you're sitting down at dinner and the waitress comes up and they go excuse me ma'am exactly that happened to me in jacksonville and it was

we had just sat down to eat lunch somewhere and she comes up to the table she's like ma'am would you like anything and i like turn around she's like just runs off yeah runs off who are you with marissa okay because all right that's good because he it's happened a couple times to him when he's with us and that's bad that's not bad we just that's like worst case scenario

these guys forget about it so fast.

Yeah.

They probably never bring it up.

Well, ever, ever.

If you're with steakhouse in Vegas.

It was.

It was Brazilian steakhouse.

Yeah.

And if you're at a table and it's like three girls and you, and then the waitress comes up and she goes, hey, ladies,

that's a bad situation, too.

That's happened to me once or twice.

No, it's happened to me a few times.

Yeah.

I was just going to say that's the most embarrassing moment for that waitress ever because not only did they screw up a man or a woman, but it's also, it's Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's been turned around.

She wasn't happy with herself, but I thought it was funny.

Like that stuff doesn't bother me, but I did feel, honestly, I felt bad for her, even though I guess I was the one that was, I don't want to say insulted, but I felt more bad for her because it was so awkward.

Right.

So then she comes back like five minutes later and it's just

didn't really address it.

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How bad was it that I shared that toilet thing?

I thought it was great.

I thought it was one of the best parts of the interview.

Okay, all right.

My real last question is:

Are you aware of the lore of the kid who got his head stuck in the Jaguar statue?

Yeah, because I'm, yes.

Okay, because we interviewed him.

What year was that?

That was in 90, was it like 9000s?

We interviewed him last year.

It was like early enough to where no one had tried it yet yeah and everyone knows that you can't that your head's gonna get stuck yeah yeah so yeah i know about it because our security guy skip richardson he's the man he's awesome shout out skip he's been there since the team started he pulled his head out of it oh he was the one who did it dude he has a he has an article in his office about it that's amazing 1997 1997 yeah that was two years in yeah so yeah and we're incredible yeah we we met him last year on grit week he like just came up to us at a bar he's like you'll never believe who i am i was like what like you can't you're I'm not gonna be shocked by this.

He's like, I'm the kid who got his head stuck.

And then we verified it and we're like, what the fuck?

How old is he now?

He's like 30.

And he is.

Awesome.

And we interviewed him.

So what, Max?

How old is he?

That math didn't add.

So

he was definitely older than two, whatever.

Whatever.

You don't have to talk about it.

Whatever he is.

He's 35.

No.

He was older than two when he got his head stuck.

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

He's probably like 30.

He's probably 35.

Okay, 35.

35.

I didn't need to say that.

Oh, Oh, that's okay.

That was actually the worst part of the interview, not me talking about the toilet.

If he was toilet, I probably wouldn't have got stuck.

Yeah.

But yeah,

he's got to be part of the, when you guys win the Super Bowl, you got to shave your head, and then he's got to be on the parade float.

I love that.

Yeah.

And you also have to come on part of my take the morning after because you already said that you do it after the next championship.

Unless you

deal.

Super Bowl is better than the National Championship.

So do it.

Yes.

That's fine.

All right.

All right.

I'm in.

Trevor, this has been awesome, man.

Thank you guys for having me.

It's been too long.

Yeah, I know.

We were trying to

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Okay, let's wrap up the show.

So we talked about this last week.

Zach has some admirers.

So the original admirer of Zach, turns out she's married.

Kind of like, I didn't know she got down like that.

Tough look for her husband.

Yeah, tough look for her husband.

But then

we had a new admirer of Zach who posted a video

essentially being like, I want to take Zach out on a date.

And this woman

is extremely hot.

I thought for a second, Zach, that it was Jessica Chastain and I was going to fight you because I love her.

And I was like, what the fuck?

Zach, what are we going to do?

Yes, there was a kind woman named Rachel who made a video saying that she would be open to possibly going on a date with me.

I believe the course of action may be message Rachel back and see

when in the near future, relative near future.

Schedules permitting when she would be open to going on a date.

So we're going to do a date?

I think

we may be going on a date here soon, boys.

Fuck you.

All right.

She's a Pilates instructor.

That is correct.

She does instruct Pilates to work out classes.

Yeah.

She's very attractive.

Can we say that?

We're allowed to say that.

I think she looks like a lovely young woman.

She looks like she's driven.

She's ambitious.

And most importantly, she's got great taste in dudes.

She's hot.

In the most respectful way possible, yes.

Rachel is a very good-looking woman, but she looks like she's a great head on her shoulders.

We're teaching these Pilates classes.

Very kind when she speaks.

Great head on great shoulders, too.

Yes.

Shout out to Rachel.

Exactly.

So you're not nervous, although you did tell me that the last date you were on, actually, the girl canceled it, right?

It wasn't like a cancellation.

It was like, I thought I had went on a date this one time.

And then later on in life, I was like, yeah, that date went terrible, didn't it?

I apologize for that date going so poorly.

When we go on this next date,

it might go better.

And she was just like, oh, you thought that was a date?

And that was my only confirmed date.

She retroactively canceled the date.

Yeah.

She tried to strike it from the record.

How'd you go?

Where'd you go?

What did she say that it was?

So we it was this is we just went and got uh like drinks.

That's a that's a date.

I thought I shake for saying that that's not a date.

She's super cool, super kind.

Shout out to her too nice.

But I thought it was a date too.

And she was like, oh, you thought that was a date?

And I did.

That was my only confirmed date.

And then that was has been retracted, struck it from the record.

No, no, no.

We're putting it on the record.

It was just the two of you?

It was 1v1 drinks.

Yeah.

It was a solo match.

Cross her up.

Yeah.

We went 1v1 drinks.

All right, so, Zach, I think part of this is like,

you are very funny.

And by the way, best eyes on the podcast.

Great eyes.

I'm going to say it right now.

Striking.

If you don't have, if you haven't gotten a look of Zach's eyes, like close up, baby blue, Caribbean blue eyes.

Incredible eyes.

Appreciate you saying that, big cat.

Yes, I got you.

But this girl asked you out on a date.

She already likes the vibe of Zach.

You just have to be you.

And you're going to, and if you'd be you,

I'm not going to get graphic, but just be you.

The date could go well.

We could have a good time.

Maybe go second date.

I think that's a good goal.

But we got to go date one first.

What did I tell you?

You're going to only have one decision to make on this date.

And she could have already backpedaled and been like, I don't want to go on a date anymore.

That's a territory.

Don't put that out there, Zach.

She's into you.

So you got to to figure out what would be a good first date.

I was thinking

we could run drinks if she's open to that.

Everything is kind of video game.

Because they run duos on COD.

I don't know how that would go.

I only have one controller.

I think we get drinks.

What about Lasertag?

Let's start with drinks.

Let's start with drinks.

I like that Max.

I like that.

Just a happy hour, a few drinks, nothing crazy.

Maybe just one drink.

We'll start with one drink.

And then if it's good, then you go two.

Right.

Well, well.

Oh, that.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, two drinks total.

I thought you were going to say, like, each date, you just add one drink.

No, no, I'm saying, like, that'd be funny if you date after the dark.

Yeah.

If you marry this chick and you just become a violent alcoholic.

Oh, no.

So, Zach,

just because it's drinks, you don't have to have a drink if you don't...

want an alcoholic.

Exactly.

What would you get to drink?

What's your move?

It depends if we we do like the middle of the day or an evening situation.

I think it's the evening.

Evening, I like

maybe like a nice little

tequila soda, maybe a cognac situation.

Oh!

Man of class.

All right, so Zach, what are we replying to her right now?

Was she gonna be like, hey, you want to get drinks?

What should I say?

Should I just be like, hello, Rachel?

How are you today?

I was thinking.

No, yes, it has to be Zach.

She likes Zach.

This is who Zach is.

Let Zach be Zach.

All right, so you just.

How should we start this?

I I think that's a good idea.

What you just said was that.

Hello, Rachel.

How are you today?

I saw the video.

I saw the video, yeah.

And then you just say out loud what you're writing.

And I think it's going to be great.

Dude, he's going to crush this.

This is going to be good.

He said, hello, Rachel.

Hope your weekend went well.

I don't know.

He wasn't speaking, so I was just going to.

Oh, yeah, you.

Oh, my bad.

I was thinking first.

I was brain shopping.

I was workshopping.

I like brain shopping.

Brain shopping plays.

Brain shopping plays.

Yeah, just stopping in a a few stores.

Yeah, see what happens.

But you're off to a great start.

You're off to a great start.

Hope your weekend went well.

That's a good line.

That's a solid one.

That's a good line.

Yeah.

Okay.

It's appropriate timing because what do you got down?

Was wondering.

Oh, no, he just deleted was wondering.

Oh.

If you are still open to going

on a date

together.

Yes.

What days

work best for you?

I like it.

That's it.

Just leave it at that.

Just Just throw it back at her because now she's got a reply.

She hit that purple button.

I'm spell checking, hold on.

Her Pilates schedule?

Yeah, no, good.

It's probably like unconventional.

Let her tell you what date she's available.

That's good.

Exactly.

We'll make it work in our eyes.

The only thing you've got to make sure is you can't,

like, let's hope this goes well.

You can't be in a Pilates studio.

You've got to be like four or five dates deep before we get you in a Pilates studio.

I don't feel comfortable with putting you in a Pilates studio.

And I say that from someone who I will never do Pilates in my life as well.

If I end up in a Pilates studio, we probably won't go on another date because I don't have Pilates in my repertoire of

physical activity.

I just don't have that.

No core strength.

I have an idea.

If she does want you to go into a Pilates studio at some point,

all of us have to do a practice Pilates here.

Yes.

And we'll video us trying to do Pilates here.

We'll get a different Pilates instructor and we'll workshop it.

Yeah.

Yep.

Because you're going to need to do some sort of pre-Pilates before you can do

Pilates.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I love that.

Group date, 6v6.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

I think we start at 1v1.

No, we're saying that we will be like Nathan for you rehearsal, Pilates.

Yeah.

So that when you get to the first Pilates, because I've never done Pilates, I've never been in the same room as Pilates.

If you put me in that room, I would probably say things that are stupid, ask dumb questions.

We'll work that out for you.

I also think it would be funny to see all of us try and do Pilates.

I would agree.

Now, Zach, we could also do the simulation before the first date where you run through it with somebody in the soft.

You practice.

Do you think it makes most sense to just save any date potential I have for the date?

Like

what if I have a good and okay performance on the practice date and then I'm just and so then I have no performance on the real date.

But do you think that having a good performance

we can't put his best material out there?

But do you think that that's

that going to give you more confidence going to the date if you have a really good run-through?

Yeah, maybe i think he's saying like do it off like do it we don't put it out until after the date comes out yeah we might burn it even though i i don't even think we put it out i think that we just we run the simulation we just want you i think to have a great time i think we just have to wait and see if we're rachel's still open to possibly going on a date and if she says she would like to do that then me and rachel go on a date and then uh we'll see how that goes i think you just be yourself and She's going to be head over heels.

I told you, you got one decision you got to make on this date.

It's a first date.

No early celebrations.

We're waiting for the DM back.

All right.

Is it sent?

We did not drink the champagne early.

It's officially sent.

Sent.

We have sent.

All right.

Good for you, Zach.

This feels good.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting to know Rachel.

I agree.

You're going to be so polite on this date.

It's going to be the most polite date of all time.

Everybody's polite on first dates, right?

No, but you are the most polite, and she's going to love it.

She's going to love it.

Zach, let's try to stay out of the kitchen on this date.

What's up?

Let's try to to stay out of the kitchen, like the incident at Applebee's.

I was just going to tell Anne that

I was going to tell Miss Anna that we enjoyed her service.

The boys went to Applebee's to end chill week, and

our server came, and

it was almost like a fine dining experience, which I respect her for.

She took all of our appetizers and didn't take our entrees, and we were confused, and we're like, wait, is she going to also take our entrees?

I was like, Zach, go tell her that we have a lot more to order.

And then Zach just came back like 15 seconds later, shaking his head.

And I was like, What happened?

He's like, I ran after her and I got all the way into the kitchen.

And they started yelling at me because I was standing in the middle of the kitchen.

So they just went too deep.

Yeah, that's just

learning experience.

You just follow directions, which I love about you.

Just go get Anna.

You are going to go to the end of the earth to get her.

She did come back for the

phenomenal.

Yeah.

Loved having her.

All right.

Good show, boys.

Got some good interviews coming up this week.

And oh, Takey's on Friday.

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Okay.

Number three.

I think that was me.

I think that was me.

I don't even think you said a number.

I think it was me.

I think you just said.

No, that was memes.

I can see it.

I can see it on the waves.

That was memes.

No way.

No.

No, that's four.

Oh, wait.

No, he's dead.

I can't tell.

I still think it's memes.

I don't even think PFT says that.

Sounded like memes.

Pug?

I hate to say it.

I think it was memes.

Pug's taking a look.

PFT blurted out.

Ugh.

That's first, right?

No, I can't see.

Wait, go up.

What do we got, Pug?

Oh, wait.

No, it actually was PFT.

Oh, down there.

I know exactly.

You can see yours.

Mimi's gone.

No, mime was gone.

No, yours was not gone.

What would you have guessed?

I thought it was you, but.

I guess three.

But PFT didn't even say no.

No, I said three.

No, no, it was PFT.

Pushmouth.

Three.

Six?

Oh.

It was seventy-seven.

I'll do uh

fifty-nine

twenty-six.

I don't know

ninety-nine, Pug, forty-four,

fifty-one,

twenty-one

62.

What would have happened there

if it was through?

I thought it was going to be through.

What would have happened?

I think I would have attacked PSC.

I think you would have had to attack.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

No, it would have been my fault.

Oh, yeah, it would have been your fault.

It would have been my fault.

No, but I was the one that ruled that it was you.

So, memes, who do you kill first?

Me.

Always Max.

Well, no, actually, he would kill Shane first.

Yeah.

Or Shane would.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We should probably all do a blind poll of we, what order we kill people, and then we could just...

I think we could figure out through the blind poll who's and who's who.

I bet we could too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pug would just be heartbreaking.

No, Pug would pick up.

Pug would pick no one.

Zach would for sure pick no one.

No.

He would pick himself.

He absolutely would.

I just want the boys to have a good time.

I don't want to be in their way.

All right.

See you on Wednesday.

Love you guys.