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three-time NBA champion Dwayne Wade in studio.

Awesome interview with D.

Wade.

Really, really fun to talk to him.

We're going to talk some playoffs.

The Thunder are a wagon.

The Panthers are a wagon.

The Pacers and Knicks Knicks played one of the most exciting playoff games, maybe ever.

We'll talk to memes about that.

R.I.P.G.

Mersey, we're going to talk about that.

The tush-push doesn't get banned.

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Today is Friday, May 23rd.

And the Oklahoma City Thunder are NBA champions.

Thunder.

Thunder.

It was cool.

Do I still have that ticket?

I cannot wait for this concept.

I gave it to Pug.

Yeah.

And he gave it to someone.

And then it was given given again.

I think the Donnies are both going.

Oh, hell yeah.

Whenever you get both Donnies involved, it's a great time.

It's rare.

Ah, yeah.

The Thunder are really fucking good.

They're really, really good.

And yeah, we laid into SGA a little bit on the last podcast.

I still stand by the take that I don't like watching him when he's foul baiting, but he is a great player.

He did less of the foul baiting tonight.

Well, he won the MVP, too.

That happens thanks to Shams for spoiling it.

Bullshit that they announced it when the two MVPs were in the playoff series prior.

You think that they should have done it when it was like last year?

He's saying they should have done it during that.

Yeah, I think there was a famous one.

I think it might have been Dirk Nowitzki.

No, that was after he got bounced.

Dirk got it in the second round after they got bounced by the Warriors.

I want to say it was like a David Robinson Hakeem.

They announced it during

the actual

series.

But yeah, I agree with you.

They should have done it.

It would have done it before game seven.

Yeah, they should have.

Yeah.

Yeah, it would have been sick.

This was a great game by SGA.

There's no doubt about it.

I still get pissed off when he embellishes.

I think the Timberwolves are at their wits' end with it, too.

Yeah, there was a little bit of that tonight.

But he also, like, if you take that aside, he played a great game tonight.

Yeah, no, he's awesome.

He had 38 points.

He was dominant in, I mean, the first half, he missed like two or three shots.

He's really goddamn good.

And I wonder the question that I have for you guys: is Paul George an all-time Oklahoma City Thunder player?

Because, of course, Paul George got them SGA and a thousand picks.

I would say yes.

Which I will say in

defense of Clippers fans, they probably don't need defense.

A lot of people are doing the like, can you believe this trade?

SGA was not.

No one thought he was going to be an MVP when they got traded from him.

And Paul George was very, very good at the time.

Still a crazy trade looking back at it.

But yeah, Paul George got them SGA and a lot of picks.

And now the Thunder look like the far and away best team in the NBA.

They suffocate you on defense.

Anthony Edwards had a pretty nice night and it still didn't matter.

They're just that much better.

And they, I don't know what to say, like they're just so much better than everyone in the team.

And they can hold a lead.

Yeah.

They can.

They're a very tough team to come back on.

They just, they, they get out in transition so fast.

Oh, every turnover is.

Yeah.

It's unreal.

Like they score before the defense even has has a chance to fully get behind half court.

And it's crazy.

And all they do is turn you over.

This was another game where I think the Timberwolves had 14 turnovers.

The Thunder had six.

Got to win the turnover battle.

Got to do it.

And it doesn't matter because they're just that good.

And yeah, I don't really...

You can't even...

We can't even be like, hey, t-shirt guy, put your t-shirt on.

They just keep winning when he doesn't have a t-shirt on.

I got one thing to just bring to light.

National Sports Podcast.

Yep.

They've got the best Superfan in the world.

Yeah, the best.

They got two.

Well, I'm talking about Thundor.

Yes.

Thundor is awesome, but also Brick Guy is awesome.

Brick Guy's cool Thundor.

So Thundor, he rocks.

He's Oldie.

He wears like a Mexican luchador hat, and he takes his shirt off.

He paints his chest.

He looks like Oldie.

He is the absolute best.

I looked up some information about him.

His name's Garrett.

He's a social worker, and he changes on the way to games in a gas station bathroom.

I love that.

And this dude is the best.

We got to to get him on.

Huge home field advantage, home court advantage.

Yeah, there's Thundor right there.

We got to get him off.

Big boy.

Thunder.

Someone get us a Thundor.

Figure it out.

He lets out.

Whoops.

He needs an APAC.

During Foul Shots.

Yeah.

His claim to fame is he was the first person to call Chris Kamen Chris Caveman.

Oh, okay.

When he was shooting foul shots.

And I read an article.

They did an interview with him a while ago.

This is like maybe 10 years ago.

He said, as a bigger guy, I grew up always wanting to swim with my shirt on.

As goofy as I might be and how outrageous my antics might be, deep down, I like to promote body positivity and feeling confident in yourself.

If I can take the thing that I'm most uncomfortable with and make that something that can entertain others or be a distraction for free throw shooters, then I took a negative into a positive.

I love this guy.

Thundor rocks.

Thundor is the man.

I would like to have him on PMT.

You know it's a blowout when Thundor takes the mask off and he just enjoys the rest of the game.

My job is done here.

Yeah, I don't know if he did that tonight, but he has done that.

I think in that the Nuggets blowout that they had in game two, I think he just was like, Thundor, my work here is done.

Yeah.

And he went back into Clark Kent for the rest of the game too.

My watch has ended.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But this guy rocks.

I love Thundor.

And it, yeah, I don't even know.

I mean, we'll see what happens when they...

So we're, obviously, it's Memorial Day weekend.

So next we will talk to people.

There'll be two more games that

go on because we'll be back on.

We're going to do Tuesday, Friday next week.

Hopefully there's still a series.

I think that the Timber Wolves are going to figure out how to win one or maybe two at home.

I think they'll figure it out.

I don't know.

Game three, they got to win game three.

I don't know how.

Must win.

I don't know how, but I don't see the Wolves getting swept.

Yeah, I mean, you would hope that

Nas Reed's got to hit a three eventually.

I think he's 0 for 12 in the series.

Yeah.

He's got to hit a 3.

And Julius Randle didn't play in the fourth quarter.

He had a bad game, which that is because he has been incredible all playoffs.

Even last game when he started i think he had 20 points in the first half him having only six points and not playing in the in the fourth quarter i don't know if he was injured or anything but he that's bad and that's a bad sign i don't think that you can make the case that you you might get a friendlier whistle at home because i believe that tonight the foul shooting even favored the uh the timberwolves yeah shout out scott foster yeah playing banged up got hit in the nose did he have a tamp on his nose yeah he did he put a tamp on his nose love that yeah it was it was a big one did you guys also see uh in the second period right yeah Yeah, it was the second period.

Did you see that Perk was there?

Perk's going through some stuff right now.

The picture of Kendrick Perkins standing next to Stephen A.

Smith that went viral.

Parallax angle.

That was tough.

Also, Perk is doing some weird stuff where he

was like Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook never got out of the second round until I showed up.

Fact.

And

Kevin Durant quote you and just said, you the real MVP.

Yeah, I love that.

And he also had, I think it was last week, he said he would have locked down Jokic, and then they just played

footage of like baby Jokic just like fucking him up.

And the Celtics is like, you know, it's a

family team and he's like on the like not allowed in.

Really?

Yeah.

Why?

Because he was like leading the charge against getting rid of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum a couple years ago.

He was doing his job as a journalist.

But what happened was he was at the game and they announced him.

So he's gotten all his former teams, none of them.

Yeah.

Well, he did get a standing ovation tonight.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, I think the people love him.

Yeah, he got a standing ovation tonight.

He has to know when he says stuff like that.

Like, it's a little bit tongue-in-cheek, right?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I think he's

suffering from the fact that

all of the games and box scores that he played in are readily available.

Yeah, that is true.

You know what I mean?

Like, he would do a lot better.

It's giving off big, like, oh, yeah, my summer camp girlfriend, she's actually from Canada.

If he was

a folk hero, like back in the day, like, yeah, Kenya.

Big Perk, yeah.

Big Perk.

Men used to cry instead of going to the lane against Big Perk.

Yeah, if he was a boxer from like 1915,

we would be, oh, my God, the best ever.

But so back to the standing ovation.

You got a standing ovation.

Now, I don't know what the timing was with this, but it was a little weird because they only showed one highlight and it was just a repeat highlight of different different angles of a single donkey at.

That's awesome.

I don't know what happened there.

But here, I'll send it to you.

I think you also might have misquoted him a little bit because you didn't say carry the hell on.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

Yeah, Perk.

He's going through it right now.

But the Thunder, they're just, they're better than everyone.

I don't really know what to say.

I got a question about the Thunder and their roster.

Guy for guy, if you put him up against the Boston Celtics.

Why would you do that?

They're not in the playoffs.

Who are we taking here?

Guy for guy.

The Thunder are still playing, so you got.

I mean, the Thunder are stacked.

Yeah.

Top to bottom.

Top to bottom.

And what's crazy about the Thunder, and I know that this is getting ahead of ourselves because they haven't won the title.

Here's the highlight if you guys want to see it.

It's pretty sick.

This is Kendrick Perkins and his career at OKC, and that's a dunk.

Yeah, hell yeah, it is.

And

then

there's the same dunk from a different angle.

Yeah.

That was a good dunk.

Yeah, that was a great dunk.

I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.

There's still some basketball to be played.

Anything could happen.

The craziest thing about the Thunder is like, they're so young and they have so much, like, so many draft picks.

They have, like, I was saying the other night, like, Chet Holmgren is just going to get better.

He's already very good.

Yeah.

He was good again tonight, and he's going to keep getting better.

Yeah, you could make the case that this might be the worst Thunder team that we're going to see in the next five years.

I like that.

I like that.

Yeah.

You could make that case.

If the Thunder can win with this roster, imagine what they're going to do.

Yeah, it's a good case to make.

Should we start that discussion?

Yeah.

Will this be the worst Thunder championship in their dynasty era?

No, this is an off year.

The Thunder fans are going to be so bad.

This is like, if you look at it, this is an off year for the Thunder.

Yeah.

And the fact that they're doing this is super.

We're going to look back and be like, dude, they fucking won with this team?

Yeah.

And listen, I like the Thunder.

I think they're a great team.

I think that they're entertained.

I love Caruso.

I think you feel the same way.

I love Caruso.

I love Lou Dorts, who, by the way, I don't know if you guys knew this fact.

I found out yesterday.

Lou Dort name is Lugan Stort.

His father's name is Lufran Stort.

I like that.

Literally the same name, just a G, an F instead of a G.

I fucking love it.

Yeah, but I think that

if we do nitpick at SGA, it's because there's literally our only complaint about the Thunder is that your star player is too good at gaming the rules.

Yeah, and you're mowing everybody.

Like, I might be an SG atheist.

Yes, I am, but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate Alex Caruso.

Yeah,

I agree with that.

And they're a really good team.

You can't take anything, like, what they've done in the playoffs so far.

Because I know, obviously, they went to seven with the Nuggets.

That's credit to the Nuggets.

But I...

Even in that series, they had a couple blowouts.

Like, it just feels like when they beat these teams, they're just killing them.

Yeah.

Killing them.

This game was a close game again.

And then it was just, oh, the Thunder are going to do their thing.

Like,

their defense is just so good.

And their offense can go through a little bit of lulls every now and then, but it doesn't matter because their defense is that good.

I think we have to just fast-forward the entire conversation and say, are the Thunder bad for basketball?

It could be.

Are we going to have to make Sam Presti rule?

I mean,

he's built such a great team.

Sam Presty, the asset king.

Yeah.

He's just swimming in assets.

Eating assets.

Should we talk about the other game?

I think we should.

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All right, back to part of my take.

Okay, uh,

NYX Pacers.

This was one of

the more shocking, craziest, awesome.

I don't really know what other superlative to use games that I've watched.

It was insane.

And the Pacers,

I think we can all agree, it's not a fluke.

It's not like a coincidence this keeps happening.

This is the third time they've done this thing.

This was the most extreme one, but the third time they've done this in these playoffs.

In the Buc series, they were down seven with 40 seconds left.

In the Cavs series, they were down five with 30 seconds left.

In this game, they were down eight with 40 seconds left.

They were down 14

with

250 left.

and the stat goes that all time teams that are up 14 with under three minutes to play were 977 and 0.

And now

the one is the Pacers and what they did, and it's crazy.

It was insane.

I've seen so many different

versions of that same stat.

Where you can even back it up to three minutes, four minutes, five minutes.

Yeah, they're all the same where it's like they were 0 for 1414.

Now they're one for 1,415 in this circumstance.

Crazy.

And yeah, you're right.

The Pacers,

they've proven that this is what they do.

They don't run out of gas.

They're better conditioned than every other team.

Yeah, and they've got guys that can hit three pointers that can heat up.

And it's not like they're shutting teams down.

Like, the Knicks still scored points.

So the discussion that I think was thrown out there.

Yeah, like six points in the last two minutes?

Yeah, and the discussion that was thrown out there, because obviously Tyrese Halliburton hits that shot, incredible shot, toe on the line, but still like such an insane shot for it to bounce that high.

And he does the Reggie Miller choke, which was a ballsy move because he, well, he didn't know at the time that he thought he had won the game.

I'm okay with it.

Yeah.

No, I'm fine with it too.

Aura.

You agree?

Yeah.

What about the laced up Tims?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Halliburton just, he may have just made the quickest transition from no aura to massive amount of aura this postseason.

Yeah, but I don't think the Knicks choked as much as

they choked a little bit.

They were making shots.

Yeah, and they missed some free throws.

And obviously, there was the goaltending that everyone's going to talk about.

And over time, I get it.

Like, to say the Knicks choke, though, does a disservice to Aaron Neesmith going into God mode.

That was God mode.

What he did in those three minutes or whatever it was, maybe a little more, was insane.

Five for five from three.

Yeah, it was, it was nuts.

Aaron Neesmith, uh, Pacer for life, right?

Insane.

Didn't play for anybody else.

I mean, that was.

Wait, did he play for somebody else?

Aaron Neesmith?

Yeah.

Who did he play for, Hank?

Oh.

Did he play for the Celsius on the Celsius?

Texas draft.

Oh, no.

That's wild.

Oh, no.

That was.

That was so impressive.

God-mode.

Yeah.

Like, I don't really know what else.

I don't think you can say in the zone because it was more of a, it was more of a, like, crunched time frame and it was perfect he was above the zone it was god mode yeah so i think that the knicks did kind of choke it a little bit though and that's not taking anything away from what the pacers did because the pacers were obviously great in those last three minutes but

jalen brunson's a great player love watching him play dog

he looked super shaky in the fourth quarter whether it was inbounding the ball whether it was bringing the ball up the court He looked scared.

And there were a few times when he turned it over.

There were even more times when he should have turned it over and lucked out.

He got very, very shaky in the fourth.

I don't think I'm telling tales out of school with that one.

Memes, would you agree with that?

I think the one inbound play, and then he threw it up to Josh Hart, was a shaky one.

I think he had several of those in the fourth quarter.

Well, I think, I don't know about the shit, because what he ended up scoring 42.

Yeah, he had a great game.

He had a great game.

I think the crazier part for the Knicks is that when it was 10 minutes left in the game and it was 94-92 and Jalen Brunson gets his fifth foul, you're saying to yourself, oh fuck, the Knicks are going to be in trouble here.

And then the Knicks ripped off a 14-0 run, and you're like, oh, my God, Jalen Brunson's sitting on the bench, and we just went on a 14-0 run.

And all of the, like you said, like you, you back it up.

It's just like looking at all of the scores at different times is just insane.

They're up, you know, 119, 105 with 250 left.

They were up

seven points with a minute and 20 left.

They were up, what was it, eight points with 40 seconds left?

It just, it was an impossible comeback, and they, and they did it because Aaron Neesmith was insane.

And when Halliburton hit that last shot in regulation, after the ball hit off the back iron and went like eight, nine feet up in the air, I don't know about you, but I was like, oh, that's going in.

Yeah.

That's going to fall in.

I also was like, that was Jim Ursa.

Yeah, he did.

That was his last tweet.

His last tweet.

I did an Ursae legacy game on A Line.

And we'll talk about him in a second.

But that was, I just, the Pacers are so much fun.

They're so much fun to watch because they have just guys with big balls who make big shots.

And Hal Burton, Hal Burton is so good.

And I know that he got voted overrated.

He now is the most underrated.

And we don't know what he's doing.

Big music is so good that his peers hate him.

Well, no.

That's how good he is.

Yeah.

Kirk Goldsberry told us it was like five people it was rachel that voted for him

knows 13 people she said 13 total players yeah voted him the most overrated yeah it's really not that many people in the nba but they just didn't want to vote for anybody else because that's a fucked up award to give the guys that got probably he got this olympic spot over them yeah yeah yeah and i was watching a clip there was there was someone posted it uh it was it was like i've loved how burton from this moment and it was he was doing like a watch-along for a i don't know if it was a playoff game or a uh NBA League Cup game.

And it was a highlight of Jordan Poole with like 10 seconds left, chucking a three from like 35 feet.

And the other two people on the panel, I think it's Taylor Rooks and someone else, they're like, what?

How do you take that shot?

And Halberton's like, I love that shot.

He's like, that was a great shot.

He's wide open.

He's like, I'm taking that shot in the playoffs next year.

And that's just what he is.

He's just unafraid.

Like the move to go into the paint like that and then come out and you knew he was going to take it.

It was a stupid fucking shot, but it was crazy.

Yeah, yeah, the whole thing was crazy, and it was.

I saw people saying it was a double dribble.

It was not a double dribble, it got poked away.

No, it got, it got his gay, yeah.

He got, he got his, the hands were put on there.

Um, what were you gonna do?

What are you doing?

Um, I wanted to see if memes thought it was a double dribble because that's true saltiness, yeah.

So, memes, let's let's talk about it.

It was not a double dribble, but I saw a lot of people being like, How do they knock all this?

But I would respect it if memes held held firm and held the line and said, That's a double dribble.

Memes, we did a

review of your tweets last night.

Good job.

There was one that we noted, though.

Where'd you guys review this?

We were sitting in here.

Yeah, we did an internal review.

We did an internal review.

Nice.

It's part of our evaluation.

We do that every Friday.

We do it every Friday.

We look through all your tweets.

But

you had it all.

You had the choke.

You had everything.

You were doing all caps.

But the one that made us laugh was the choke picture was not all caps, and it just said Hal Burton hit the choke on the tying basket.

Yeah, I did.

Yeah.

Memes, you were an all caps guy when something exciting happens.

And when the Pacers were coming back, you said something like, the Pacers just won't die.

Yeah, somebody was like, oh, Jim Mercy, don't say.

But I saw that one, and I was like, that's just memes being angry that the Pacers won't die.

I was in shock.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The Knicks are just cursed because, like, if OG makes that free throw and then Tyrese steps on the line and gets a two, like, that's what somebody with good luck gets.

Instead, it was like, overtime, Ty, you don't get the goaltend, now you just lose.

Yeah.

So, how are you feeling?

I mean, it's one game.

That's the thing is, like, there was a lot of,

it was a shocking game.

Knicks fans were commiserating, which I understand.

But it was just one game.

You win on Friday night, and it's like, all right, let's go.

Yeah, you win on Friday night.

You're back.

It's, what, 10.50 right now?

Like, this morning, I didn't leave the couch.

It was probably the worst loss I've ever seen in my lifetime.

But you win game two, you're back.

Yeah, and the Knicks, like, if you want to go positive spin zone, the Knicks were the better basketball team for 56 minutes,

57 minutes.

Yeah.

And no, no, no, not 57.

I was doing NFL time.

Wow, wow.

We just did American Rejects at the, they played a private concert for us.

It was sick.

We're going to have the lead singer on the show on Tuesday.

They played the better game for

45 minutes.

Yeah, and then Nae Smith was just touched by God, and then he just couldn't fucking miss.

I miss football.

Football was just going 60 football.

This is the absolute best sport in the entire world.

It was sick.

So, memes, you stayed on your couch.

60 minutes.

You were angry.

I stayed on the couch.

I didn't move.

Memes did text the group chat like four times.

What time are we recording?

Let me know.

Let me know what time we're recording.

He's like, I want want to get this over with and get the fuck out of here yeah

yeah pretty much and now i've just been i've just been it here all day you've been stewing

you've been stewing a little bit yeah you don't you don't handle losses well but that's fine i think that that's uh no one most people don't at this office don't handle losses by the way No Nick fan should be judged for how they handled that loss because that loss was as gut-punching as you get.

Now, anything you said, did, acted in the like two hours after that game should be legally wiped from the record.

Yeah, I crashed out pretty hard in our production group chat.

Oh, no.

What did that look like?

Can you read some of them?

Uh

no, Max is shaking his hand.

It was that hard of a crash out.

Yeah, it was pretty, it was pretty bad.

Did you apologize?

Did you go after anyone?

No, no, no.

It always just ends up with me quitting somehow.

Oh, did you quit last night?

If they don't let me know, I'm going to quit.

He blamed Chicago for his tires.

That's actually a valid point.

What's that?

I had to get three retires.

That's fair.

You retired three times?

Three tires were placed yesterday.

You retired three times yesterday.

Yeah, but the loss was so bad.

All right, so and then what else was said in the

weather.

I blame the weather in Chicago.

Yeah, also fair.

Yeah.

Okay.

Anything else?

I mean, anything on hand?

No, I blame Shane.

Imagine if we were at softball when that was happening.

Yeah.

What did you say to Shane?

I was like, this is all Shane's fucking fault.

Okay, go on.

Well, why?

He sent me a picture that let me know he was doing something.

Oh.

Oh.

Script out things.

Taking a shit.

Yeah.

Oh.

Damn.

That is Shane's fault.

I was like, I don't want to be thinking about this.

It's just one game,

but the Pacers are so much fun, and they're a scary, scary team because they don't.

The fact they don't.

You just can't, memes.

I'll tell you from

experience, you can't blow game two.

Win game two, you're fine.

Yeah.

No.

You just can't blow another big lead in game two because then it's a pattern.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I did see, if you're a Knicks fan, I hope that you just avoided, like memes, you avoided all sorts of sports media, even if you work on a sports media podcast.

But I saw a lot of shows today just straight up burying the Knicks, just saying the Knicks cannot come back from this.

Which is bullshit.

I don't think I disagree.

Yeah, it's bullshit.

It's an overtime loss.

The Pacers are a great team.

They will never die.

You have to kill them seven times if you want to actually murder them.

But to say that the series is over, i respect the boldness of the take yeah and and also like the knicks still like cat was very good and he's going to be a mismatch problem for the pacers like i og's been good like i i think this will still be a series i jalen brunson's still incredible that was a tough a tough tough uh loss did you see the uh new cat sound dropped uh let me get it to max so he can play it for you guys i fucking love cat i i need him mic'd up for every single game he's so fucking funny.

But you got to keep your head up.

It's one game.

Win Friday night, and you're good to go.

Yeah, you can't win a six if you don't lose two.

So that's true.

You said you did predict it.

Ready for this?

This is Mitchell Robinson talking to Cat before the game.

I'm here.

You I NYC.

Okay.

And what?

I'm here.

You I NYC.

Okay.

NYC.

SEC.

Are you in the Haliban?

I am.

I mean, I've been riding with the Pacers.

Like I said, I had a money line on Wednesday night, which was the craziest win possible.

I might be in Hal Qaeda.

I've been in the Haliban and the Pacers

this whole run.

They're just fun.

Yeah, they are.

Sixers Twitter has been getting into it because

there were rumors a while ago, like back when Ben Simmons was on the Sixers, that Daryl Morray turned down Tyrese Haliburton for a while.

You get in there and you make it about you, Matt.

And also,

you don't have the best Tyrese in the NBA.

Oh, no.

No.

No, no, no.

No, no, no.

It's also crazy because did you guys see there was a

someone did the all the draft picks for each team in the conference finals and it's like the Pacers have built a team of not

like top three guys and it's it's pretty damn impressive it is yeah Naismith great draft pick great draft pick

yeah Brad Stevens yeah trust the process why'd you get rid of the process

Brogdon, Malcolm Brogdon, who won six man of the year.

At the time, you know, it was a good trade.

Win-win.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But, I mean, you didn't know he had God mode.

No, I mean, you know, it's been four years since that trade, but yeah, he's a great player.

Great drop.

You haven't really thought about him that much before

this playoffs.

Has anyone yet?

I mean, God mode.

That was crazy.

It was God mode.

God mode.

What memes?

I mean, it was so crazy.

And then after the game, game,

he was like, I'm just so good at shooting, I just let it fly.

That's a great idea.

I don't think a guy like that shouldn't be doing that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you...

The Halliburton choke, it could have been a bad one.

If they had lost an overtime, that would have been as bad as you get in terms of memes and everything going after.

I think that it's incredible that he was able to overcome what seemed like a jinxing.

choke that he made.

He tried to will the meme into existence before they won the game.

That feels like something that will come back to bite you, and he just overcame that in overtime.

Yeah.

But the Reggie Miller choke series, the Pacers lost.

That's true.

Yep, good point.

Also, here's another stat.

Just one last stat.

This one's crazy.

Since 1997 and 98, teams are 4 and 1,640

when trailing by 7 plus in the final minute of the fourth quarter or OT in the playoffs.

The Pacers account for three of those four wins.

That is nuts.

In these playoffs.

That is not.

That's fucking insane.

Yep.

Four and 1,640, and they have three out of four in these playoffs.

Crazy.

How many points would you need to be up by, memes, in the final minute of the fourth quarter to feel comfortable?

15.

15.

15.

That sounds like a challenge.

That feels like a new Pacer stat that's going to drop.

Yeah.

You should have gone like 25.

Yeah.

Dude, you know, like the stats that came out after this game

were all so shocking.

You don't want to make a new one.

And I loved looking at all of them.

They're mind-boggling.

It's just 41,640.

Crazy numbers.

Yeah.

Last thing on this game, I saw that Charles Barkley actually said this to Adam Silver, and we agree.

It's time to get Tyrese Halberton's dad back in the States.

I said that like two days after they banned him for the entire playoffs.

Because you could see a way that this would unfold when it feels like the punishment is too heavy.

Yeah, ban him for the rest of that first series.

I get that.

Or I guess it would be the second series, the first two home games of the second series.

Let the man's dad watch his son dominate in the NBA.

Although him doing the clip of him at a bar doing the choke and having the towel and just going crazy was very funny.

But yeah, let's get it back.

Yeah, I saw Stavi threaten to fight him.

He's like, just let me fight his dad and then all is fair.

I think it's a fair compromise.

I know if Stavi wants that fight.

I think Stavi wants the fight.

I know that he wants to fight.

I don't think he wants to fight after he has the fight.

Yeah.

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Pacers, Knicks.

I need, I need to catch up with Max, so I'll just go Halbert.

All right.

11 11 to 1.

11 to 1.

What are you guys going to do?

I'm going to take Aaron Naismith.

Okay.

8-1.

Good one.

Maybe God Mode still?

I'm going to go

Siakum, because I like saying Siakum.

Yeah.

750.

I'll just run it back with...

Cat got me a win last week.

I'll run it back with Cat.

Okay.

Plus 475.

Plus 475.

And Max, you're in the lead for our competition?

What would be the margin?

I think I'm up like

around 1,000.

Oh, okay.

So you better not have Haliburt Hitman.

No, Halliburton would be tough.

I feel like that's way too.

I'm seeing plus 950.

Oh, I see.

All right.

Plus 950.

I was reading Josh Hart.

Plus 950.

My bad.

Plus 950.

Good catch, Max.

That is a good catch.

I mean, that's a big difference.

That's a big difference.

That's a big difference.

They're at the bottom.

I saw plus, I was reading it and didn't link the names.

Plus 950.

Max is able to pull up stats real fast.

Real fast in competition.

We're all looking at it.

Yeah, real fast.

550.

You know what?

Maybe I'll just parlay Halbert and Josh Hart.

They'll share a first basket.

That's cute.

I don't even know what that means.

That's adorable.

You can't do that.

Okay.

Other things we got to talk about.

Jim Ursa passed away.

Very sad.

I was thinking about it, PFT.

I think Jim Ursa

is

the closest to how I would want to live my life if I was a billionaire.

And he was the coolest for that.

He

had a football team.

I know his dad bought the team, but he owned a football team.

He collected sick guitars.

By all accounts, he would just hand people money and do really awesome things for people without having anyone say anything, like being like, hey,

I don't want the publicity.

He partied.

Like, he was a billionaire NFL owner who has many pictures of him like shirtless or has like stains on his shirt.

He lived how you should live if you are a billionaire.

Yeah, he was a dude.

I agree 100%.

This is exactly what I would do if I owned an NFL team.

If I had that money, I would buy an NFL team.

I would smoke cigarettes on golf carts.

I would give away a lot of money.

I saw a clip of him a while back.

This was years ago.

where he was at a bills game and he was in the owner's suite at a bills game and he was like talking back and forth to some of the bills fans that were in front of him like just friendly banter type stuff and then after the the game was over, the Colts had won.

He just starts autographing $100 bills and just handing them to everybody.

He's like, thanks for tolerating this, guys.

I appreciate it.

Here's some money.

Enjoy yourselves.

He would walk around with stacks of $100 bills in the thousands and just give them away to people.

He did a shitload for people in the Indy.

I know, like, at the national level, what you know about Jim Ursa is probably limited to some of his demons.

Yeah, some complicated things.

Which is fine.

But, like, this, I think it's actually good to point at this and say, if you're an addict that doesn't mean that you're a bad person no and also i don't think he i think if you talk to anybody that like dealt with him they loved him in indie he was eccentric yeah but guess what i would probably be eccentric if i had that much money too he got rid i will never forget the fact that he is the first owner to have the balls to say fuck you to dan snyder when snyder threatened to blackmail every other owner and he goes yeah try me because everything that I've done is out in the open.

You're still a piece of shit and we're going to do something about you.

He had that guitar collection, which is the best guitar collection in the entire world.

He had, I think, three guitars that were worth over a million, two of which were worth like $4 million.

And he had this huge collection that he would take out on the road and just be like, hey, everybody, please just come look at all these pieces of American history that I have.

And he was offered...

a billion dollars by, I think it was Dubai.

They offered him a billion dollars to buy his collection.

He said, no,

I'm not going to sell it for that.

I don't care about the money.

I just want to have it so that I can show people the collection that I have.

Yeah, and I think the,

you know, he obviously battled some addictions.

Like, he was a complicated guy, but guess what?

Complicated people are more interesting in life.

Like, you can't, there's, there's good and bad, but that's kind of why I looked at him and like, he felt like one of the more human owners that we had in sports because he did have demons and things that happened, but he wore them all.

And it was like, this is who he is.

He's not perfect.

Which I'd much rather that than someone be like, oh, yeah, I'm perfect.

Everything's perfect.

Yeah.

I mean, the man made several big mistakes in his life, but I don't think that that defines what he was.

Because I never got to meet Jamercy.

I would have loved to have met the guy and to interview him or just to like introduce myself.

We never got the chance to do that, unfortunately.

But he did send us the giant banner of the Colts AFC finalists.

And he wrote, I think he wrote those lyrics that he sent over to us that said, like, it takes a good friend to tell you that you're pissing in the wind.

Thanks for telling me I was pissing in the wind.

Yeah.

He also undersold like when that happened, I remember PFT being like, hey, like

Jim Ursa said he's sending me something.

Like, let's film it just in case.

It's probably nothing.

Yeah.

And it was

the greatest.

I think that's the greatest thing he could have ever given.

Yeah, I saw Eric Burkhart had a thread today that I feel like summed up Jim Ursa.

He told the story.

He said, a brief Jim Ursay story that I believe is important to share.

Years ago, I had a Colts client player who unexpectedly lost a beloved family member.

Mr.

Ursay personally called me with the sincerest condolences for the entire family.

Further, he offered to pay for the funeral, which we graciously dismissed.

Days later, Jim's right-hand man called me, insisted that Mr.

Ursay pay for the funeral.

His one condition was that it wasn't made public that he did this.

And upon following through and assisting them in executing his amazing gesture, his guy told me in confidence, Jim Ursa does so many incredible things like this on his own and without credit.

And last year alone, he paid for hundreds of funerals.

And that's like, that's the coolest thing.

People

will make the argument about like, hey, charity, you got to, you got to talk about your charity so then you get more charity.

Like, Jim Ursa probably touched so many people's lives and did so many things for so many people that we have no idea about because he did not want credit and he did not want people to be like, oh, wow, Jim Ursa is the best.

He just did it because he was a good guy.

And he was loyal to his players.

If you ask any of the players that played for him, I've seen so many of them say, like, yeah, this is a guy that loved football.

He loved his football team, and we appreciate that about him.

They enjoyed playing.

He let Andrew Luck keep his money, right?

Yeah.

When Andrew Luck decides to retire and he tried to pay him back, Jim Mercy was like, no, you keep all of it.

That's for you, buddy.

You earned it.

So there's going to be

a giant hole in NFL Fridays and Saturdays this season.

I don't know who's going to announce if the roof is open, closed, the window open, closed.

I love that.

I love him.

He loved his football team.

It doesn't seem like he meddled with his football team, maybe sometimes to a fault.

Yeah.

I would say so.

Probably to a fault with some of the hires that he has.

But his extent of meddling with the team was, I just want to announce if the roof is open or closed.

Yeah.

Which is awesome.

Yeah.

So, yeah, and he was one of the more interesting guys in the NFL world.

So R.A.P.

J.

Mercy.

Also speaking in the NFL world, Max, congratulations.

Tush Push

stays.

Tush Push stays.

Yeah.

I'm happy about it, I guess.

There was a part of me that wanted it to be

banned.

So that you could be like

so that I could call everyone pussies.

Yep.

And then

you would still just QB sneak.

And I wanted it to be the exact same number.

Yeah.

Jeffrey Lurie, the owner of the Eagles, said

it is like a wet dream for a teenage boy to create a play that is so

successful, the only way for it to be stopped is

it to be banned.

You can't ban wet dreams.

No, that was a little weird, Max.

He's absolutely right.

Is it like a wet dream?

The teenage boy part was.

I don't know why you had to include that.

Do you think Jeffrey Lurie?

Teenage boys are the ones who get wet dreams.

Do you think Jeffrey Lurie has come to the tushbush?

He's not a teenage boy.

That's true.

Yeah, he's not a teenage boy.

Yeah.

When was the last time you had a wet dream?

I don't know.

They fucking...

Posting,

the fact that you just stop having wet dreams sucks.

They rock.

Yeah.

It's fucking, it's VR.

It's better than VR.

It is, dude.

I love that.

Dude, it's like, this is sick.

The reports were that the Tush Push was going to be banned.

So then Jeff Lurie was like, fuck it.

I'm going to go all in.

I'm going to invite Jason Kelsey, and I'm going to stand up in front of this room of owners and talk to them about coming in my bed sheets.

And then Jason Kelsey's going to bring it home by getting up there and probably sweating and crying.

And it worked.

Reading behind the scenes in this, it's actually very funny how the tush-push proposal came to be because it's a Roger Goodell thing.

Yeah.

It's Goodell and it has nothing to do with player safety despite what Hank thinks.

It's just the fact that it's an ugly play, according to Roger Goodell.

He's like, it's kind of a gross play, so I'm going to ask the Packers who don't have an owner.

Yeah, we snuffed that out.

We snuffed that out.

And we're not like The Packers, they were like, oh, yeah, they can't blame one of the Packers owners.

They don't have any.

Yeah, so Roger Goodell wanted to change this rule because he thought it's an ugly...

What he doesn't understand, the Tush Push is an ugly play, but it's got a great personality.

Yeah.

And he doesn't get that.

PFT, do you kind of wish that the Commanders had not voted to ban it?

Because the Bears voted to ban it.

I kind of wish they hadn't.

I did not know what the vote breakdown was.

Not only did the Bears vote to ban it.

Yeah, Ben Johnson likes explosive plays.

Ben Johnson plays.

He likes explosive plays.

He's such a fucking hard player.

What did he say?

He said that the tush-push has never led to an explosive play.

I like explosive plays.

First downs are explosive plays.

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah,

I looked at it really quickly because I was like, well, let's see.

Yeah.

I think in this room, we're the two teams that voted to ban it.

Well, Kraft changed his mind.

I think Kraft is one of the ones that switched up at the last minute.

I think the Patriots switched up at the last minute.

I think it's because Kraft likes to stick it to Goodell sometimes.

And Vrabel was probably like, hey, we're going to be pussies if we vote.

No, Vrabel's a football guy.

Also,

there's a chance that when Jeffrey Lurie started talking about coming, Kraft was like, yeah.

Yeah.

I'm in.

I hear you.

Wet dreams.

Wet dreams.

Say less.

You're speaking my language.

Say less, amigo.

Yeah, no.

Listen, Max.

If I could have had the vote for the Bears, I would have voted for it to not be banned.

I've been consistent.

I don't think it should be banned.

People should just get a tush push.

PFT has been playing this thing that it's like, I don't want to be banned.

If I could pick, I would choose for it not to be banned.

Then he was like, but if it does get banned, that would be cool.

Find me a clip of me saying I want to go.

No, I've been

the most consistent

for PFT.

Yeah, point your point here.

You're in his division.

You have to vote against it.

Yeah, whatever you want.

Yeah.

No, no, you have to ban it.

I thought the giant

Diana.

Oh, yeah, Diana did report it was going to get banned in the morning.

Well, I think someone votes

you really happy.

That's like a wet dream for me.

I didn't even know that, by the way.

Memes just kept telling me.

He's like, are you going to bring up Diana?

You stalk her.

You stalk her in the hopes that one of the things that you read from her might be kind of wrong.

Yeah.

The good news is,

this one was wrong.

The good news for all of this, I cannot wait till we get to do this all again next year.

It's going to be great.

We're going to do the whole school.

That was another thing.

The only team that

voted for it to stay that is on the Eagles schedule this year is the Lions.

Every other team that voted for it to stay is not on the Eagles schedule.

Yeah, I mean, the best case that you can make for banning the tush push is so that we don't have to talk for another year about whether or not they're going to ban the tush push.

Because it's coming.

We're going to do it again.

Also, just respected Dan Campbell.

Yeah.

Just that, like, everyone, it's like, oh, yeah,

only the teams that don't play.

And then it's like, no, Dan Campbell's like, this is football.

Yeah.

Who's the owner?

Sheila Ford, I think, I believe now.

Yeah.

Probably Probably

was like, hey, how do we want to vote on this, Dan?

And he was just like, we're not pussies.

Yeah.

That's not fucking pussies.

That probably happened.

He probably said it like, he's like, Ms.

Ford, respectfully, we're not fucking pussies.

It is an ugly play if you don't appreciate the beauty that you can find in gross stuff sometimes.

Yeah.

That's a fact.

Which I can't.

There's also more NFL news, Brock Purdy.

Yeah.

Got paid.

I feel like we missed that.

He got paid.

It was that like last week?

I think it was a couple days ago, but the details are coming out now.

Oh.

And the only thing you can like you can look at the contract definitively, you can say he is the highest paid Brock of all time.

Yeah.

Number one.

Wow.

Yeah.

More than more than Lesnar.

Really?

Yeah.

In his career?

I don't, the UFC didn't really pay fight for him.

But what about WWE?

And what about?

Oh, I didn't think about.

Yeah.

I didn't think about WWE.

He's made a lot of money.

I don't know.

Maybe he hasn't.

I think this might be the highest paid Brock of all time.

This was like a week ago, by the way.

Yeah, I know.

It was so long ago, I forgot.

Yeah, we totally missed it.

I was like, what?

Okay.

Yeah, I mean, we should have brought it up at the time.

You know what it was?

I think it happened on a Friday night.

Actually, I know it did.

It happened on a Friday at 4:04 p.m.

That's not on us.

Definitively, not on us.

That's old news.

Yep.

Look at that.

Friday.

We got the Friday news dump.

And it also was at that Monday was

that guy.

What?

What guy?

What happened on that?

This was the Hank episode.

What happened to the Hank episode?

Oh, right, right.

The Series Altitude's embarrassing.

So I guess what happened today was

he gave a press conference about his contract.

People talk about the Tatum injury.

It's like, yeah, we had a healthy Tatum.

We were down nine with three minutes left.

Next could have easily blown that.

Whatever.

We're not talking about this.

We're not talking about this.

This is a meme, memes.

You could do this one where it's just the Pacers logo on that guy's head in Walmart.

You're not that guy, Paul.

Pacers, I mean, the Pacers.

That's the Pacers thing.

That's That's the Pacers thing.

Yeah, and we did it to the Pacers last year.

Whatever.

We moved on.

Brock, whatever.

Brock.

Do you know his name?

I was about to say Lesnar.

Okay.

Talk a little puck.

That was brutal for the Oilers.

They gave up five goals in the third.

It felt like the stars just hung around, hung around, get power plays, then just bury them.

Yeah, and it is a lot of fun watching Connor McDavid play.

Yeah.

That's what I got from that take.

I also got from that take, respect to the stars,

like fans and crowd.

That crowd was awesome.

They were standing so much during that game, and it just looked like an awesome, awesome time.

So

I think that's that Oilers got to win game too.

They got to win game two.

It's a must-win.

And then the Panthers are going to win the cup.

I put the Panthers in the Thunder category.

Panthers.

They just fucking worked the hurricanes again.

I saw Biz say that, or no, I think it was Whitney said that the Panthers dominating like this probably makes Lee's fans feel a little bit better.

Yeah.

It makes Capitals fans feel a lot worse.

Yeah.

They're just punishing the Hurricanes, and it doesn't look competitive at all.

Yeah, like I think the Panthers have already played their toughest series.

Yeah.

Good job, Leefs.

You were very cool.

Until the finals.

Maybe not.

Maybe they're just that good.

They might be.

Yeah.

They are.

They had an injury tonight.

I forget who got injured, but Aho dove into somebody's leg and looked like an MCL.

And Bob is locked in.

Locked in.

I just love goalie Bob.

That's your goalie.

Bob.

Bob.

Bob.

Do we have anything else before we get to our great interview with Dwayne Wade?

Oh, college football playoff changes their seating.

I think we expected that, right?

Expected that.

Makes sense.

It's funny because because I think that that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for Boise.

Yeah.

Boise kind of just did that on their own right away.

So, because Boise, you know, the fact that there weren't four higher-ranked Power 5 programs last year, and then Boise was like, oh, I guess we get to buy.

And everyone was just like, this can't happen.

Yep.

They just like, it was going to happen eventually.

Boise just expedited the process of being like, hey, we got to buy.

I think if it had been in the regular, the old format, but it had gone more true to like Power Schools getting the first round home playoff games, if that had happened for like four years and then Boise State in year five, they get the home playoff game, then everyone's like, fuck yeah, this is awesome.

Yeah, right.

What a bunch of chaos.

I actually,

is this going to sound crazy?

A buy is always

more important,

but.

And Arizona State was the other team.

A buy is always more important, but like losing

a home playoff game, those did rock, and they're probably like pretty big money maker.

For fans,

I think it's better to have a home playoff game.

They should.

Especially if you play someone shitty, it's like you just beat up on someone else.

Yeah, right.

They should just do the second round

at home as well.

That would be awesome.

That would be so sick.

I think they have to deal with the Bulls.

Yeah, they do.

I know they do.

So that's going to be.

Yeah.

That's going to be tough.

Yeah.

Okay.

Do we have anything else?

I think that was pretty much everything.

Scheduled for next week.

So we got a show on Tuesday.

Tuesday and Friday.

So no show Monday.

Yep.

We do love you guys, but we're respecting the troops this weekend.

Have to respect the troops.

Yep.

Have to do it.

We are going to be working on Monday.

Yeah, we'll be here Monday night recording a show.

Yeah.

Recapping everything.

Oh, I had one other thing.

It was shout out to SMU.

Posted, I don't know if you guys saw this.

They posted a bragging tweet about their team GPA being the high it's ever been.

Hell yeah.

What do you guys think it was?

This is a tweet they said, like, congratulations.

SMU what?

2-3.

Against football.

2-3.

No, this is a congratulatory.

The highest

semester.

This semester marks the highest full semester GPA in program history.

2-4.

I think it's 2-5.

It's actually higher than that.

2-9-5.

Okay.

That's what I got in college.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I feel like you can't brag if you're not over three.

No, you can't.

To be like, this is the highest ever?

I think if you're SMU, you can.

A lot of players.

Yeah.

A lot of players.

They killed our team because we were so dumb.

They were in the playoff last year.

Remember, for like

three minutes?

I don't even know.

That game was over.

So remember the SMU flight?

Was it SMU Clemson?

Who did it?

No, no, it was Penn State.

Remember there was the famous

viral flight where they got delayed, like big-time SMU donors, and they didn't get there until halftime?

Yeah.

It's like, why would you even just turn the fucking plate around?

What are you looking at, memes?

Me and memes are struggling to believe that PFT only got a 2-9 at JMU.

It's a good skill.

I feel like

you're smart.

Yeah, I didn't really do much.

College is

not like a test of intelligence, it's just whether you went to the class or not.

And I didn't, I didn't really like going to class that much.

That's fair.

I had two classes that I liked to go to, and that's pretty much it.

One of which I got a D plus in, and I was pumped about that.

That's sick.

Not a great college student.

Respect.

Yeah.

Hank?

Out of 2-3 in high school.

Fuck you.

Nice.

Good work.

Get into SMU.

I feel like SMU is a pretty hard school to get into.

Well, yeah.

It's less about your test scores and more about your credit scores.

Ah.

Yeah.

One of those.

Uh-huh.

One of those.

Okay.

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Okay, here he is, Dwayne Wade.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest.

In studio, it is basketball hall of famer three-time nba champion dwayne wade in studio i think you might be one of the most accomplished people that's ever sat on that couch so i just want to say that to start thank you for coming in we also have the larry o'brien trophy sitting in between us yeah yeah when you see this trophy do you Do you feel like maybe you got another year left?

Like, hey, I want another one of those.

Maybe join a playoff team late?

Well, first of all, thanks for the four varies.

Yes.

The V V V I.

i appreciate that uh no i have my own you know i mean it's like seeing someone else kid and thinking you need another kid i don't need

i have my own three of them you see all the work that goes into that yeah raising one of these yeah i've raised i've raised three of them already wait do you have a favorite kid trophy i'm talking about yeah i do which one uh my firstborn 2006 okay all right that's my favorite one yeah that was a good one that was really good the refs really got involved in that series i mean that's what they're supposed to do protect the product baby protect the product when When you won that first one, I mean, that was early in your career.

Did you, I'm always curious with this, like, did you feel a little bit of relief being like, all right, I, you know, because there's guys who go their whole career and they're chasing, chasing, chasing.

Not that you relax a little, but you're like, I know I can do it and I'll get another one, but it might take a little time, but at least I got that one.

1,000%.

Yeah.

Oh, I was probably annoying as hell to my friends.

Right after the championship in 06, LeBron had a bikeathon in Cleveland, and I was there.

You don't go to Cleveland for a bike-a-thon after you win a championship.

You go somewhere else.

I was like, no, I want to show up.

And I knew Mello was going to be there.

I knew my guy was going to be there.

I wanted them to see that I was a champion.

Yeah.

And they didn't have a championship yet.

Like, we were, you know, we were obviously all young.

But yeah, getting that first one out the way, I was 24 years old.

You know, I came in, you know, a little bit unheralded compared to the class that I was in.

And to be able to get that chip very early, yeah, I was like, okay.

All right.

Now I got that out the way.

Now I can focus on like my individual self a little bit now i can get a little selfish yeah go out to some awards and um but then after a couple years i was like okay this sucks you need another one yeah because now i've i've actually felt what it feels like to to host that trophy over my head and so now it actually made it worse for my whole career because now i'm chasing that right that feeling because nothing else feels like that no matter what i do yeah you see other guys doing it you're like you get jealous so jealous like you're not doing it right no i need to do that again in that postseason it felt like it was it just like a team of destiny.

When that shot went in, where you were just falling through the air, threw it over the back of your head and went in.

At that point, I was like, okay, he's going to win a championship.

Really?

Yeah, of course.

I mean, I wish you could have got in touch with me and let me know.

That shot doesn't go in for somebody that's not going to end up winning.

Did you have you ever practiced that shot or were you just like, I'm just going to throw it up?

No, no.

So I practice dumb shots all the time.

Like, I'm a firm believer in

the moments where you're just in the gym by yourself.

It's like, really, really use your imagination.

Like, this is the time to just do all the dumb stuff because you never know when you're going to need it and so i personally used to under like i would fall a lot and so i would go in the gym and just like i'll find you know angles on a backboard you might hear this in like kyrie and guys who are very good at it i always were like yo if i'm getting a in in a point where i'm like in trouble i need to be able to find a crack on the backboard that gives it an opportunity and so i always used to play with going to gym and just play with shots and so when i have those moments and i've fallen i just look at that little spot on the backboard like, oh, that's familiar.

Let me put it there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it works out sometimes.

Was that the year that Shaq gave you the nickname Flash?

Yeah.

Wait, I think he gave it to me in 05, the first year.

We won in our second year together.

05, he gave it to me.

And it was cool because, you know, you need at that time, if you didn't have a nickname,

you was not cool.

Yeah.

Like everybody had a nickname who was like a really good player.

And I didn't have one.

Like, Dwayne Wade was not cool enough.

Well, D-Wade is cool.

Well, I worked hard to make D-Wade like one name yeah it was like you had to have one name like magic yeah Shaq yeah Kobe

Michael or MJ whatever right you needed one name so D-Wade became my one name but I also needed that alter ego yeah right and Shaq kind of helped develop Superman and Flash so

when he gave that to you though was he were you like hey wait a second you're superman okay can I be superman no absolutely not okay so you're okay

I know he is but like you know there's always the debate like who's who's taking last shot shot, who's Batman, who's Robin.

You're like, I'll be Flash.

I'm Flash.

Well, we didn't have that problem.

Not at all?

No.

Well, I mean, yeah, you're taking the last shot.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

You didn't have that problem.

Yeah.

Other people might have had that problem.

Shaq already had, like, when he, once I got the easier part of Shaq, like, he already had went through.

He was the biggest, one of the biggest stars in the world.

He had three championships.

Like, he was so accomplished and secure by the time he got to Miami.

And all he wanted to do was win him another ring.

And so he knew that I was one of the ones that can help him get to that.

And so he was amazing with me, man.

Like he really pumped a lot of juice into me, was telling me things that I didn't even know was true.

Like he told me like I was going to be one of the greatest two guards that ever played a game.

And I'm sitting here looking at him like, okay, if you think so, then, you know, I know you play with Penny.

I know you played with Kobe.

And so if you say that, then I believe it, right?

So Shaq was incredible with me, man.

Yeah.

So where would you rank the nicknames between Flash, D-Wade, and then Way of Wade?

Remember Way of Wade?

Well, it's still popping.

Is it still popping?

Yeah, we still got Way of Wade.

Where?

Way of Wade?

Where is it popping?

Listen, I got on Way of Wade shoes right now.

I remember when you said, hey guys, this is my new nickname.

Just a heads up.

It's Way of Wade.

It was WoW.

Yeah, please call me Way of Wade from now on.

It was branding.

It was branding.

Yeah, Way of Wade is my brand.

And in Lee Ning, I have my own brand called Way of Wade.

Actually, I went D'Angelo Russell shoes.

We just launched these.

And so Way of Wade is still a thing.

Okay, I love it.

Yeah.

I love it.

I was trying to make WoW a thing, though.

I was trying to have people call me WoW, which is

way of way, W-O-W.

Wow is a good name.

Yeah.

So I was trying.

Yeah.

So when Shaq comes over and he starts playing Miami, I know that Pat Riley and The Heat are famous for some of their conditioning rules.

Was that an adjustment period for him where it's like, hey,

we're going to weigh you in.

We're going to take body fat measurements all the time.

Oh, man.

Shaq, I think, you know, Shaq tells a lot of stories now.

So it was really cool to be able to get behind the scenes.

But watching him trying to get around those, like, he'll put baby oil on his whole body, right?

He'd come in just oiled up.

I don't even know if I should, that is this is the brain temperature in the world to use baby oil.

No, that's fine.

Sorry,

you got to oil up, yeah.

Shaq would come in so you could not like grab the fat, like it was too slip, right?

So you couldn't like just grab it all, right?

You know, like the pinchers, the skin calipers, yeah, or you'll see guys in like um like Antoine Walker and the guys would be in the steam.

Now, I'm young, so I didn't have these issues at that time.

I didn't know, I didn't understand it, but now once I got older, I did.

But you see the veteran guys finding all these ways around the weight and body fat.

Guys would be in the steam room right before they got to do the weight and body fat, doing all these things.

But yeah, I've saw guys get suspended for games because they did not make weight and body fat.

Like Pat didn't play those games at all.

That's crazy.

So even you, when you were unquestionably the face of the franchise, you'd have to do that every single day.

It wasn't every day.

It was like once a week.

It was once a week you would come in.

You had to get weight and body fat.

So if you build a good relationship with Bill Ferran, who was our strength and conditioning coach, you'd be like, yo, Bill, get me on Wednesday.

Let me me get myself tight for a couple of days.

But

it was something serious.

And I think, you know, Pat just have these pillars, you know, that the organization, you know, lives by.

And you guys probably have heard it, best condition, most professional, hardest work, all these things.

And this is a part of it.

And he felt that if you were at a certain body fat, he had it for guards, you know, and forwards and centers, that you were in.

great shape.

And if you're in great shape, then you can give me your best on the court.

Right.

And I, you know, I don't think I believed it early on until it was times where I was not at that body fat space and I wasn't in great shape.

And you feel it in moments on the court.

You feel it in those moments.

You can't make that extra effort.

Fourth quarter, you're a little bit, you know, you're a little bit more tired.

And so it was a method to the madness, but I think as players, you're like, nah, just give me the ball.

I can hoop.

I'm a hooper.

Just let me play.

Yeah, we have that here at Barcelona, too.

They weigh us in body fat.

Yeah.

If we're in too good of shape, they don't let us podcast.

You got to be fat.

Yeah, you're too chiseled.

All right.

So the story you told

maybe a couple months ago, which we laughed about, we thought it was incredible, the LeBron and the cookies.

So do you really think that it was the cookies that was the final straw?

I did not say it was the cookies that was the final straw.

That's what we took from it.

Everybody took that straw.

You steal another man's cookie.

And for the record, we're on LeBron's side.

Oh, yeah.

You touch someone's cookies.

That's fighting.

I just said that was the first time that I was like, Houston, we have a problem.

Okay, so the story goes LeBron brings cookies with him every single time he gets on the plane.

Well, sometimes, but the plane will have cookies as well okay so he's double cooking well sometimes he brings it but this is on the this is after a game okay this is on the road after a game they make the cookies like you can bring it when you when you're at home you're about to go on a road but when you're on a plane out the you know on a road trip they make the cookies on the plane and so you know you kind of you have to have your comforts when you this is a long season so we all have our vices we all have the things that makes you know that makes us feel comfortable especially when you're not at home with your comforts you got to have those things well cookies i'm one of those guys love me some warm chocolate chip cookies.

And that was one of Brian's vices as well.

And so I told the story about the moment we were, you know, we all would get in front of a plane.

We all would play cards, you know, gambling and playing cards, boret, and it's poker and all these things is a big part of like camaraderie on the plane when you're flying.

And that was one of the moments when they didn't, when they, when they said someone took the cookies off the plane.

I got a lot of text messages from that, by the way.

A lot of people was hitting me telling me their version of the story.

And I'm like, I was actually there.

there yeah this is my version i just saw it in brian like he became like a a five-year-old kid when them cookies went on that plane he got real quiet pushed them cards away

and i was like oh this is that's not good yeah

you know it's the nick picking yeah it's the right picking of thing like we're we were one of the greatest teams we went to four finals in a row don't take my cookies away from me right right something right and what it was it confirmed it was pat riley that took the cookies well listen pat riley it's Pat Riley's show.

Right.

I don't care who took the cookies.

It had to come, the cookies don't get touched if Pat Riley doesn't say anything.

In my eyes, everything comes from Pat.

It doesn't matter.

Pat is the, he's the beginning and the end.

Right.

Right.

And so you're goddamn right.

It comes from the beginning and the end in my eyes.

And so

that was just the first moment.

And that wasn't.

LeBron didn't leave the heat because he didn't get warm chocolate chip cookies.

But it's the things that, you know, when it comes to the nitpicking,

you know, and I like the wild when you're around each each other for so long and you know you've accomplished the things you came to accomplish and you're around each other for so long everything is not as funny as it used to be everyone is not as cool as they once was and so once you start having these little things that start adding up and it start building up you start seeing it on a player it starts seeing and wear on them and i just saw i just saw him and i was like oh boy yeah Was there a moment though after that where you're like, all right, I think he's definitely leaving.

Like, could you feel it?

Not really.

It ain't like he wore it on his sleeve.

Yeah.

You know, LeBron keeps them cars close to his chest um i didn't i didn't really feel that my guy was leaving until we were in vegas um you know before he left we had we i went to vegas he hosted his nike camp you know big camp we all went to vegas um to kind of go hang out and you know be guys and I could tell that he had a lot on his mind and there were some things he wanted to say that he was not saying.

But I just waited for him to tell me.

I wanted to go to my bro, you out?

Yeah.

I could tell that I'm sure it was a hard decision for him and I'm sure it was hard to tell me and other guys.

And so I just waited, you know, I waited for him to have that conversation, you know, with me.

You know, but ultimately, we had to have the conversation just like we did to team up.

We had the conversation.

Yeah.

So on the other side, the team up, how, when did you know that was going to happen?

Because there were certain teams.

I, you know, I'm a Bulls fan.

I was like, oh, I think they might come to the Bulls.

I think the Knicks felt the same way.

Was it always the heat?

Was it you were just leading everyone else on?

Well, I think the one thing is, is Chris Bosch was Chris Boss is in Toronto, right?

And so once Chris Boss got a chance to come out here and get, you know, everybody was like throwing flowers at his feet.

He wavered a couple times on, like, we didn't know if he was going to be a part of, you know, the opportunity for us to play together.

Right.

And I think the Heat did a great job of keeping, once again, their cars close to their chest because we knew going into that summer that each team that was in position can get two star players, that everyone wanted two star players.

And then the Heat came out of nowhere.

It It was like, hey, we can get three.

And so I think it changed something for us.

We all had a conversation about it.

And we realized we would like to play together, but at the same time, but go off and do what you need to do.

Go have these interviews with these teams.

And if something changes, then let's come back to the table.

So it wasn't 100%, but it was a conversation that we had going into a free agency.

Like, hey, we will all love to play together,

you know, and this and that.

And then, but also, too, you got to go off and you got to see what's best for you.

But ultimately, we would love to play together.

Right.

And it was times where, like, you know, we, me and Brian get on the phone.

Like, I think Chris, I don't know if Chris gonna, I don't know if he gonna, the Knicks telling him everything.

The Bulls telling him everything he wants to hear.

I don't know if he going, if he's gonna play in Miami.

And also, too, with Brian, too.

I didn't know because I'm not in his meetings, right?

And with me, when I came to Chicago and I, I got a chance to go in there and grab that Chicago Bulls jersey.

I was back at home in the mirror.

And now,

you know what I mean?

Like, I went back to that kid from Chicago.

So I think it was a moment where all of us was like, we probably wavered in our thought of like, man, this looks good for me.

Even though we had the conversation about playing together.

And that was, and that, and people think it was like two years before.

It was not.

It was like three years.

Yeah, it was not.

Don't give us that much credit.

How long for real?

Was it like...

It was free agency time.

But before free agency, there was at least a little wink and a nod like, hey, it'd be cool to play together.

Nope.

Was there a third option if Chris Bosch didn't come to Miami?

Would that you guys had talked to or explore?

Well, I mean, people, once people started getting a little

inside that we were thinking about playing together, you know, we got a couple calls.

So we'll get calls from Amari was a free agent.

Yeah.

Boozer was a free agent.

And so we had to look and see if those personalities and those talents, if it obviously worked with us.

Right.

Because I think it was a...

Brian and I were both committed to playing together once we committed to playing together.

And it was really important who that third person was.

And we knew all along that if we were going to do this, that Chris Bosch was the choice.

The choice.

He wasn't like

another option from the standpoint of this is our first option.

Just because of our talents already together,

it was hard to envision how we're both going to be successful at the same time because we're both ball-dominant guys.

Right.

And you need somebody else to kind of like relieve that.

And Chris Bosch was the reliever in that for us more than like Amari or more than even Boozer.

I would have loved to hear Boozer's pitch.

Was he like, it's okay.

I got this.

Don't worry.

I'm not going to take any shots.

I don't know.

Brian talked to Boozer.

They had already played together in Cleveland.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And I talked to Amari because me and Amari were, you know, we had a cool relationship.

So I actually was trying to get Amari there the year before.

I was trying to get Amari to the heat before.

And I didn't think this was the 2009

All-Star weekend.

I was trying to get Satray for Amari.

I'm like, listen, let's do it now.

Right.

And the Heat was like, no, we're trying to be patient.

And so I'm like, all right, well, patient going to get me out the door.

Right.

You know, any type thing, and um, you know, and so it didn't work, but like you know, Amari, Brown, and I would have been dominated by the same time, it would have it's a total different game than Chris Bosch, yeah, yeah.

Can you tell me about how the banana boat crew came together?

You talked to Carmel about this, by the way.

He's, I think he's miffed that he wasn't on the banana boat.

Well, no, he was he insisted that he was invited because we were trying to see.

We were telling him when he came on the show, we're like, dude, you didn't get invited.

He's like, I was invited, I just didn't really want to do it.

He said he was too cool for it.

He was not involved in the banana boat.

Um, but tell me about how that came to be.

You know, the crazy thing about life is it is a photo with the banana boat.

And Carmelo Anthony is not on the photo.

People can look at the photo and still don't care and still say that we all are the banana.

Like, I don't know how that name came about with all of us

because we all was not on the banana boat.

It was my wife was on the banana boat with us.

And so we were actually all on vacation.

We always going on vacation together.

We would take vacation.

You know, we got together and we was like, hey, man, we want to start taking these little yacht trips together.

We was put all our monies together.

We would take our wives, Sonic Ganettas, and we would go on vacations together.

And so Mello wasn't there yet.

They were actually on their way, like literally like headed to us.

And we were just, you know, having, getting in the water, having fun.

And my wife wanted to go on a banana boat.

And so Chris Paul, Brian, I, we all got on the banana boat.

Now, we're in the middle of nowhere.

No one's supposed to know this but us.

And someone took a photo from who God knows where.

I'm so happy they did.

It was great.

I'd be so mad if we never got down.

No, no one's supposed to have seen us on that banana boat, first of all.

Like, if I'd have knew, they would say, we'd have looked a little cooler.

No, I think it's one of the best pictures of all time.

Yeah.

You look at that, and I honestly, when I look at it, I think, like, Carmelo should be there.

Yeah, so would he have been invited?

Would he have been invited?

No, he was on his way.

Yeah, but if he had been there.

Would he have got on the banana boat?

Would he have been on the banana boat?

I don't know if all four of them.

I don't know.

I can't.

Seems like a little meme girl thing not letting Carmelo on the banana boat.

You guys didn't wait for him?

I would have waited for my guy.

I don't know if all of us would have been.

I don't know if Mello would have got on the banana boat.

I don't think Mello would have.

Melo too cool.

Well, one's got to go.

You got to kick somebody off the banana boat if you want to get the banana.

Right, because I want kicking my wife off the banana boat.

That's a smart move.

Smart man.

Very smart.

You can't kick off.

You can't kick Braun off.

So

I don't think it would have been the banana boat.

I think Chris Paul over the edge.

Wait, so

if you could go back and delete one thing.

If you could delete one thing from the internet, would it be the banana boat or would it be the introductory press conference for the heat?

Where

the not one, but two, but three, before you guys.

I don't care about that.

Well, it was kind of funny.

Yeah, but it's just jokes.

Yeah.

Well, no, you you guys are serious.

No, it went no, you guys.

It was one person who said nothing.

It was everybody once saying that.

It was one person who said not three, not four.

No.

What was going through your head when you said not three, not four?

No, I was sweeping.

I was like, slow down.

We were to the point where you're like, oh, shit, this is too many.

Well, first of all, that was one of the things that it's supposed to be internal.

That's an internal conversation.

It was a packed.

It was a packed audience.

Yeah, but it wasn't supposed to go out to everybody.

That's one of those moments that you're not supposed to go out to everybody.

What you say in the house, stay in the house, suppose.

You know, that's supposed to have been just for us.

Now, if we go back, run a clip, look at me when he said it.

I put my head down like, woo-wee,

because I had won a championship before.

I knew how hard it was to obviously win the championship.

So it's no way.

Like, yes, we thought we were going to be a problem.

Yes, we thought we was about to run the table, but we also knew the league is very, very good.

And

it's not that damn easy.

So when he was doing a 9-1, not two,

we in the moment, right?

Killing ourselves.

And it became something that people, you know, took and made it like factuals.

Yeah.

Like, we signed a contract and said we're going to win seven championships.

Oh, yeah.

We all.

I mean, everyone made fun of it.

Yeah, but it's cool.

It's jokes.

It ain't nothing of a joke.

Because if you, if he had said instead, like, hey, we might win a championship, then you win two.

Everyone's like, holy shit,

they did even better.

But when you say you're going to win seven and then you only win.

Well, I mean, the Senator Yo Spurs is out there.

First of all, I mean, I don't think you can't just run through this league.

I don't care who you are.

Yeah.

You're going to earn it.

And so, you know, there's teams out there that would compete versus us no matter what team we put together.

And also, too, when you put three guys like that together, together, it's very hard to build a roster, a full roster.

You know, we had to get guys that take so many pay cuts to be able to be on the team.

And so, you know, you don't think about all that.

You're just, you're in the moment.

You're thinking about this dynamic.

Who's going to stop this dynamic?

We amongst our fans.

We feeling ourselves.

And then Brian got a little loose on the mic.

He started counting a little extra.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

And so once he started going, I was like, okay, well.

Well, you the young boy.

I guess if you said that we rolling with you because you the one going to, it's about seven.

I'm going to be a little old

because it ain't gonna be seven in a row.

We are I'm watching the video right now.

You do put your head down.

You're like, please stop.

Yeah, I put my head down.

I'm like, oh, he don't, he don't know.

And then the camera pans to Pat Riley in the audience.

He's like, Jesus Christ.

What is he saying?

We were talking to Mike Miller the other week and he said that he felt a lot of pressure because of that.

Really?

The role players because they knew if you don't win, it's not the big three that are going to be in trouble that are going to be gone, but it's everybody around them.

Right.

If the role players don't do their job and step up.

so it was that and then he was also a little bit upset he he never got invited to bo-ray yeah like man mike ain't spending none of their money no he did say

none of that money since he got to the nba no but he's he did say he was like the the pressure of like he's like i was a really good player and then i come to the heat and it's like i have six shots a game and i have to make three or four of them like for sure that kind of pressure did you feel that for your the role players where it's like hey these guys even though they don't aren't asked to do as much much what they're asked to do they have to be perfect when they're asked to do it listen we don't you don't lebron d-way and chris bosh don't get together in their prime to not have pressure right this is what hey this is what we hear for everybody if you're not if you ain't signing up for this then don't sign up here at this point once you're just playing in the nba you're playing games and you're going home first round or regular season you i want to feel something i want i want something i want to be a part of something that's just really bigger than me and this that's what we signed up for and so if you signed up up to play with the miami he you signed up for pressure yeah that's that's where you feel alive i want we wanted to feel alive and so uh we welcomed the pressure right you want to see how you respond and how you how you can you succeed in the middle of in the midst of this pressure and so i loved it you know i didn't mind and if somebody didn't if something you can see the ones who will weed themselves out when it came to the pressure moments but mike was man mike was a gamer mike and didn't have no no thumbs mike didn't have no toes like mike was the he was injured all the time when he played played with us.

I felt bad for him, man, because Mike can play.

That was one of the guys that Brian really wanted on the team.

Like, Brian wanted Mike.

I wanted UD.

These are the guys who was like, hey, this don't work without this guy and that guy.

Yeah.

And so we made sure, and they also made sure by taking the pay cuts that they were there.

Yeah.

Speaking of UD, he seems like the best locker room guy ever.

Like a nice veteran presence to have around.

How long did he play for?

Until he was 42 years old?

He played 20.

Yeah.

He played 20 years with the heat.

I think he was 42 years old when he retired from the game.

Yeah.

And he was on the heat for a long time, not really playing that much, but just being a presence in the locker room.

What was his role in the locker room on some of those teams?

Well, he's the culture carrier.

You know what I mean?

He's the voice.

And when UD say something, everybody listen.

I don't care what stature, I don't care if you're averaging 30, 40 points a game.

When you D stand up and say something, you're going to listen.

And also, too, he ran Miami.

So, you know,

you couldn't go nowhere without...

without people tapping on your shoulder and you know it's you d you d got eyes on you yeah you know what i'm saying but he is there certain people that just have your respect and it ain't about it ain't about what they're accomplished in this it's about what what they do every day he's an everyday guy and you respect the guy to come and give everything they have to get every ounce out of their ability every day and and you know and don't bitch and moan about it just go about his business put his hard head on and so He's the guy and we all respected him, man.

Brian respected him just as much as I did.

Pat Rowley respected him just as much as anybody.

And so, you know, on the outside, when people say, you know, anything about UD, on the inside, you understand that he's one of the most important voices that Miami Heat has ever had in the organization.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And if I ever become a coach, which I won't be, he'd be on my staff.

Yeah.

Go get him.

You ever want to coach?

I mean, you see these contracts?

I don't know.

Listen, never know.

Yeah, I mean, Mike J.

Reddick showed you.

You go podcasting to being a coach.

We could be coaches.

I mean, it's all it takes.

You got a good podcast.

If you think so.

The thing is, getting fired as a coach is actually kind of sweet.

Fire me.

Yeah.

Give me that five years and then let me go out the two.

Yeah, hang out.

Get paid not to work.

That's what we all work towards.

I'll go find myself.

I'll get fired.

Yeah, and I'll just go be like an offensive analyst for one of my friends.

No, it's a miserable job, though.

You think so?

Oh, if you care.

When did you know, speaking of coaches, when did you know Spo was special?

Because I think that was an interesting dynamic of you guys having that team and like Spolstra's a younger coach, and there was definitely the murmur of like, is Pat Riley going to do it again?

Is he going to come back down?

No, we didn't want that.

Yeah.

But was there a moment where you're like, okay,

I feel like he's got this.

I know he's got this.

I mean, I, you know, I was, I was, but I was a star player when Spo got his first head coaching job.

And so, you know, I was there alone, the bumps and the bruises of a first-time coach, right?

But about the time Brown and them came to Miami, I think he was about two, three years on the job.

You saw that, you saw the big improvement, you know, as a coach.

And like, you know,

he was very, he had his strengths right away.

And his strengths was you're going to be prepared, right?

He's, his preparation is incredible.

His work ethics is off the chart.

But there's a lot of other things that goes into coaching besides that.

And then by the time Brown them came, he was a little bit better at it.

And then, you know, after we lost in that finals, he went out and started reinventing himself.

You know, Spole is one of those guys that will go into football locker rooms and other sports to see some of the other great coaches, what they're doing, how they're involving.

And started, you start seeing his involve, he started evolving every year as a coach.

And I mean, obviously he's one of the greatest now.

But when he first got the job, I was like, what are we doing?

Yeah.

Who is this?

And I had a great relationship with Spole.

He was the guy who helped me with my game early on.

He was my workout guy.

You know, he was in the video room and he had come up and helped me work out after practice.

So we had a great relationship, but then he got handed the head coaching job.

And I'm like, wait, wait.

what we doing?

Right.

And then, you know, but to see his work ethics, to see the staff that was put around him, shout out to David Fisdell,

Keith Ashton, like these tough guys, Ronnie Ronstein, like they put a good staff around him and allow him to grow, make mistakes.

You have to have that.

You cannot bring a young coach in and fire him within the first three years.

You have to give them space and time to learn how to be a coach, especially in the professional league.

And so Spo has that and he had that with Pat.

And so he wasn't going anywhere.

Pat let everybody know that you will get out of here before he leaves.

Well, now he got time to become a great coach because he has the comfort.

He is comfortable sitting in this seat, but he works his tail off.

Nobody works harder than Spolstra.

Yeah.

I'm interested to know about

that he team in the first couple of years because it really is fascinating that you've got all these superstars, superstars that have been the man in their own right.

Everywhere they played, it's been, you are the best player on this team.

You are the key to this franchise.

You get together.

And I think in theory, you guys are like, yeah, we know that it's going to take sacrifice.

We know what it's going to be like to maybe take a back seat in certain points of the game or whatever.

Um, but then once reality hits you, you start playing the games, that becomes a different story where you're now figuring out how to be a team on the fly.

Like, what was that like feeling each other out for like, okay, here's how it's going to work in this situation.

Here's where I take a step back.

Here's where I'm the man that's going to take the last shot.

What was that like, especially in that first season as you guys were all kind of figuring out what's going on?

Yeah, I mean, it was, it was, it was so tough.

It's so easy to say words.

I think we all know that.

It's easy to say something.

You know, I'm all in, coach.

Okay, what does all in mean?

Are you really all in?

Do you understand what it's going to take?

I think when I look at that first year,

think about it, we're all coming from competing versus each other to be the very best in this game.

We were still competing versus each other, even though we were teammates.

Not in a bad way, just like, all right, Brian, you done scored sixth straight.

Now I'm about to score six straight.

All right, D, you done did that.

Chris Boss, like, let me get in the mix.

So we were still, we still had that competitiveness amongst each other, trying to learn how to play together and be teammates, right?

And then after we lost in the finals, that's humbling.

We all was very, we all got some humble pie very quickly.

And we realized if this was going to work, then we had to do this a little different.

And so you saw in that second year, you saw us come back a total different team with a total different mindset that we actually started believing the stuff that we were set that we said we was going to do.

But it takes time.

This doesn't just happen when you snap your fingers and say, I want it to happen.

It took a little time for it.

It took us one year to lose and to get humbled in front of the world and everybody to be.

If it was podcast all at the time, we would have been the number one topic.

Oh, you would have said some very mean stuff.

Oh, yeah.

It was some very nasty things said about us at that time.

But outside of that, man, we had a goal.

We sacrificed a lot to be able to play together.

And so we had to accomplish that.

It was no other answer.

We had to accomplish this goal.

And our goal was to win, not just to get there.

And so we came back in year two and we started actually believing the things that we said, the mottos that we would say, the things that we would say to the media, the things we would say to each other.

We started believing it because you start seeing sacrifice

amongst guys.

We weren't sacrificing at first.

We were hooping and we were very good at it.

But it takes sacrifice to especially have that much talent and to be able to have all that work together, right?

You got to give up shots.

You got to give up your body.

You got to give up minutes.

You got to do all these things that you don't want to do.

And it's easy to say it, and it's harder to do.

And so, we had to allow a coach to coach us a little bit, right?

We had to allow ourselves to like Brian had to allow me to coach him.

I had to allow him to coach me.

It was a lot that we had to learn about each other from that first year to that second year.

But ultimately, we needed to win and we wanted to win.

And we were going to figure it out.

And so, we did.

Is there one play or one game in particular that shows the evolution?

Like year two, this is how this is when we knew we had it figured out.

Um,

I mean, right away, yeah, go to the first game.

We figured it out.

Like, coming back, we had a, think about it.

It was an um, we had a long offseason.

Think about losing the championship and then having a, uh, we had an NBA lockout.

Yeah.

That sucked because all you want to do is get right back to it.

But we had a long offseason to think about this.

And so first game was in Christmas Day in Dallas.

We came, I think we won by like 40 on that on that day.

We came in with the mentality right away in training camp.

The first year in training camp, we were still, we were still against each other, right?

We still was trying to show that we all, we all some bad boys.

We came back in that second year and we were trying to become a team.

We were trying to show that we could play together.

And, you know, I think we all felt it right away.

And, you know, give credit to LeBron.

You know, LeBron came back a different player than he was.

I mean, what we started seeing of LeBron in those next couple years was

the greatest, one of the greatest runs we've ever seen when it comes to, you know, professional athlete.

And so he came back an even better player that put all of us in our roles and our positions a little bit.

Yeah.

Speaking of LeBron, let's just say sometimes he looks like he's injured.

Maybe, I'm not going to say flopping.

Was there ever a time where you're like, oh shit, he's actually injured.

And then he pops up and he's fine.

We didn't deal with none of that in Miami.

Okay, so you spraying his angry tie shoes up.

We go.

Okay, but there was never a time like, oh, no, this actually might be the end here.

He might actually be hurt.

Not in Miami.

Okay.

No.

But what about when you're in Cleveland?

Not in Miami.

Okay.

Okay.

Not in Miami.

That's a good answer.

Not in Miami.

I'm focused on the years we've.

Not in Miami.

Cleveland.

I was a shell of myself.

That don't even count.

Yeah.

By the way, you still, even though you weren't

prime D-Wade, you still are the best D-Wade in Cleveland Cavaliers history because I think I looked it up and Dean Wade had like five points per game.

You average 11 points per game.

So for the Cavs.

And listen, that's pretty good.

Every time I watch a Cav game and I hear them say D-Wade,

it's crazy to be able to do that.

A little flashback?

Yeah.

No, it's crazy.

I laugh every time that it's another D-Wade, and he's so different from

me.

Yes, very different.

Yeah, different complexion for sure.

Yes.

But I think it's kind of cool, too, when I watch him.

I'm like, oh, it's still a D-Wade.

Yeah.

Yeah.

As a Bulls fan, as a lifelong Michael Jordan fan, you've said on the record many times, Michael Jordan's your GOAT.

He's the best.

Did you have to lie to LeBron about that when he was in Miami?

We're like, I don't know.

I guess we'll find out.

You're still playing.

No, we didn't have

conversations.

You guys don't sit around?

We were talking about him being the GOAT and seven, eight years into the league.

Like, I mean, you know, what he's arguably, he's put together a career that will make us, that will make sports conversations talk forever about who's the GOAT.

That's what he's, it's not many people that can have that conversation to say that you will argue about who's the GOAT forever.

I can't have that conversation.

And so,

what I did is I didn't get a chance to see Michael Jordan play.

I was inspired by Michael Jordan, right?

I grew up in Chicago.

I played the game of basketball because I saw Michael Jordan play the game of basketball.

And so, my vision of it is so different.

But I got a chance to watch that guy, LeBron James, up close and personal.

And I've never seen a better basketball player in my life.

You know, and so I think, you know, the GOAT conversation is what does that even mean to you?

It doesn't mean anything.

It's something that we talk about in media.

That's something you talk about in the middle of the summer.

Everyone talks about it, not just in media.

Like everybody on the street come up to you and they're like, hey, who's the GOAT?

You're like, bro, you seven.

Yeah.

Like, why does this matter to you?

Who's the GOAT?

Wait, what do you mean?

What do you say?

What do you tell them?

What do you say?

They ask me.

Yeah.

Seven-year-old, seven-year-old.

I asked them, well, who's your GOAT?

It doesn't matter who's my GOAT.

I'm 43 years old.

I grew up in Michael Jordan era.

I played with LeBron James.

I can pick anyone I want.

It doesn't matter.

My vision of playing a game of basketball came from Michael Jordan.

The silhouette, the thing about when it comes to, I think when it comes to the GOAT is like, you got to have the perfect height.

You got to have the perfect form.

It's all these things that go in.

The goat is not just.

the stats that you put on the court and the championships you win when people talk about the goat.

It's the stories that people tell about you.

It's all these things when it comes to being the goat and so that's the era i grew up grew up in but lebron james is arguably a goat he's the goat he's a goat to generations but the generation before him it's very hard for people before him to call him their goat right it's just it's going to be hard but the generation after that he's the goat to them and so you can't i'm not going to have an argument with somebody that comes to me and say lebron james is their goat

duh he's a goat it's multiple goats in this game and multiple times practice this answer you should you should start having those arguments they're kind of fun

Those arguments are dumb.

No, they're very fun.

No, they're not.

Watch.

Let's have it right now.

Ask me who my GOAT is.

Who's your GOAT?

Michael Jordan.

Why?

Championship rings.

That's it.

Never lost in the finals.

Never went to a game seven in the finals.

That's it.

And he was the best player on those teams.

He's got six of them.

That makes him your GOAT.

Titles.

Yeah.

And I respect that.

And it's over.

Conversation over.

Yeah, who's your thank you for your response?

Michael Jordan.

Okay, there we go.

Yeah.

Oh, that was a great conversation.

That was a great end.

Yeah, that was good.

Seven-year-old should just be a little bit more.

My basketball goat, Michael Jordan.

I played the game of basketball because of Michael Jordan.

What about

how deep have you seen LeBron get into a book?

I've seen a lot of books in his hand.

How deep, though?

We talking.

Listen, I'm not even judging because I buy books and I read the first five pages and I never, I just don't read anymore.

You know what I love?

I love

when someone can make fun of themselves.

Yeah.

I love the fact that LeBron and his team has now marketed him as someone who reads the first

page.

Yeah.

That is, to me, when you

can make fun of yourself,

people really can, they love you.

Absolutely.

If you can't and you take yourself too serious, then everyone else is going to take it too serious.

And so I love the fact that LeBron has now made millions of dollars off everybody talking about him reading one page.

Now, I never sat down and watched how many pages he reads.

It's not, I don't care about that.

I care about what he does on the court.

But I definitely have seen a lot of books in his hand.

I would just carry on the back of the book.

Most people don't even make it past the back church.

I'm one of them people.

I start reading a book, and

I'm going to sleep.

Yeah, I got to listen to my book.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I ain't going to make it.

I read the reviews and I'm like, that's a great book.

I can write a whole essay off of what I just read on the back of the book.

I got some dumb questions for you.

Wait a minute.

That question that you just asked me one day.

No, that was actually

very smart questions.

I know you've spoken on it, but the fake quote in 2017

that you had Dwayne Wade on Cav's early season struggles.

It stinks, but at least I get to go home every night and have my wife eat my butt.

Not true, right?

Oh, yeah.

Who made somebody did make that?

That was a fake one.

There's a fake one.

I like that you called attention to it, though.

Yeah, you quote-treated it.

So we're making fake quotes up now?

Yeah, I listen to that.

Wait, that's what everyone thought.

And on the joke, okay.

A lot of people say, I talk a lot of shit about me.

I wouldn't be who I am today if I really took it seriously.

So, so fake, the quote's fake, but your wife does eat your butt.

I'm always blame.

that was just a podcaster trick right there.

Get you in, get yourself in.

No, it's cool.

They came out of nowhere.

It was crazy.

It definitely was a crazy take, you know, and people ran with it.

I was like, okay, so you can't.

It's a funny quote.

Fake or not, it's a funny quote.

It's funny.

Listen, I like to laugh.

It was funny.

It was a little crazy, but you know what?

Ha ha ha.

If my wife decided to do it, then she decided to do it.

Leave what we do inside our private home private.

All right, so I do, I have a private question that hopefully you can give us a little answer on.

You went to the Met Gala.

What the hell happens inside?

Nothing.

Oh, see, he's not going to answer.

She'll talk about eating butt, but you won't talk about the Met Gala.

It's crazy what happens inside then.

What happens inside?

We don't know.

We're on the outside.

Have a great time.

But what is that?

Are you bidding on stuff?

Is there live music?

What is going on?

It is live music.

Okay.

It's some of the coolest people in the world.

Yeah, we've seen the pictures, and then then we don't have a dinner.

It's a fundraiser.

Okay.

Because each seat is paid for by brands and individuals.

It's you walk through, depending on the theme of the year, you walk through the gallery.

Any TVs?

No TVs.

The games on?

No games on.

So you're at a table.

That sounds terrible.

You're eating dinner at a table.

And then is there an MC?

And no MC.

So it's just, there's a band that's playing during dinner?

it's some, the conversation is the band that's playing through dinner.

It's everybody, these are all these people, like most of these people I only get to see once a year.

Yeah.

Right?

And I mean, these not, I don't got these people in my Rolodex.

Like, we're not, like, kicking it like that, right?

Not everybody in there.

So it's, it's the soundtrack is of everybody.

happy and excited to be in the cool kids room right together and everyone looking fly as hell.

And, you know, and, you know, that's just the sound.

That's the soundtrack of the room.

When do they pass around the Illuminati robes and the baby blood?

Is that dessert course?

Let's talk about the food.

Tell me what you ate.

Well, this year it was five.

Every year is different.

Okay.

Every year is different.

Obviously, they reach out to a different chef or different restaurant to upset the plate.

And some years it's maybe some of you fancy and some years there's some you may not fancy.

This year was actually really, really good.

One of my wife and I actually

favorite restaurant.

So we had some we had some soul in our food this year.

Okay.

You know,

it was about black culture this year, baby.

You know, we're going to have some seasoning on this.

Okay.

So it was good.

It was really, really good.

And

I read a story.

You didn't try fish until you were 32 years old.

Is that right?

I don't remember the age, but me and Fish has had a real.

It was just.

I stay over here relationship.

You know what I mean?

I grew up in the inner city.

Fish wasn't a part of what I was able to eat.

And then when I got older, people started throwing fish, and it was like the first one was salmon.

And I was like, that smells like the sea.

Yeah.

It tastes, I don't want that.

And so me and fish had a you stay over there i stay over here relationship for a long time and now i just actually ate bronzino before i came it's pretty good you're having lunch fish now yeah i'm having lunch a whole fish with a salad oh oh yeah because you weren't a you weren't a salad guy no david fisdell uh shout out to david fisdell one of our coaches he told me one time he was like you know what he's like i'm pissed off at my parents i grew up my mom always told me that i had to i had to eat healthy i had to do all these things to be like you know if i wanted to be an athlete one day he said you don't do none of those things and you're one of the greatest athletes that I've ever seen.

Right.

I mean, I was terrible

when I was in my prime.

You know, I mean,

that's why my prime didn't last that long because I didn't have

the things I needed, the nutrients for my body, for my body to continue to perform the way it needed to perform.

I was a sugar baby.

Yeah.

Give me sugar.

Give me sweets.

Give me burgers.

Give me

fried chicken.

Like, I grew up that way.

And that's the way I ate through the league for a long time.

Give me hot dogs before a game.

Yeah.

Was there a moment when you were like, oh shit, I got to.

Father Time's coming.

Yeah, it was too late.

It was.

Father Time was already at the door.

Shit.

Do you think Fisdale needs to have a conversation with Luca?

Maybe get Luca on some salads?

Fisdale is in Phoenix.

Yeah, but he should talk to Luca.

Why?

Like try to.

Everybody talk about Luca's diet?

Yeah.

He could do that.

Luca's going to figure out what he needs to do.

He'll be great.

I think he'll be great.

It's one of our favorite things to do.

Like a guy who looks like me be like, you know, Luca's kind of out of shape.

Right.

I mean, Jokic looks like you, and he got three MVPs, right?

Yeah,

three or four.

I don't know.

But he did lose weight.

Like, he still looks like you.

Yeah.

But

his talent and his skills, it don't.

Everybody don't need to look chiseled.

Yeah.

Like, that is a misconception right there.

It's about, it's not about how you look.

It's about what kind of conditioning you're in to be able to obviously play both hands of the floor the way you need to.

Yeah.

And so it's not about how you look.

That is, that's, that's a little overrated.

It's a little bit about how you look.

Everybody don't need abs.

Well, but when you lose, then it's about how you look.

That's how the media looks.

And no one said nothing about how Jokic looks when he's winning MVP tours.

True, nope.

His body is no different than Luca's.

If you want to talk about the style of like, we don't see muscles.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

It's more so of are you in peak condition or are you not in peak condition from what people expect from a superstar player?

Yeah.

And that's that's the biggest conversation.

It is messed up with how we do it.

It's like winner, winner, winner, and then the minute you lose, you're like fat.

That's just how it goes.

Gotcha.

It's a lot of fat guys that's saying it, right?

Whatever fat is to you.

It's a lot of guys who don't have abs that's saying it.

I think Luca looks good.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, he looks good.

I like that.

If Luca walked in here right now, I'm sure his body would look way different than you think by watching him on a basketball court with you know out there with jerseys on and all the pads and everything.

If he walked in here, I'd cross him up.

I bet.

Traffic.

No, bro.

Luca's so good.

Yeah.

I'd cross him up with an ice cream cone.

He wouldn't know where I hit him.

I think, you know what's crazy?

You know how you see?

I think we just saw a video go out of

Robinson

in New York, of him playing in the summer, and he was going between the legs.

And shooting three.

If somebody's not in the NBA and they just

doing whatever they want to do, everybody's cold.

Yeah.

And then when you got to get in the NBA, you got to play a certain role.

You forget that all the things that you was working on in the summer, you just got to pick and you just got to roll.

You just do that.

Yeah.

And then you forget.

I mean, we've talked about it when the whole debate happened, the NFL versus NBA.

I'm like, I don't think people fully understand.

Like, we've had, we've been lucky enough to have some of the NBA combine guys come here and work out.

If you watch a guy who's going to be the NBA workout, they do not miss.

They literally do not miss.

No.

And it's like you think that they're shooting 50% from the field in a game when they're in practice, they are not missing.

Well, that's called

bright lights.

Yeah.

That's called popcorn popping.

That's called fans in the arena.

Everything changes when you, I've seen players in practice that was way better than me.

And we get in the game.

And I'm like, bro, you're going to help me?

It's a whole different beast when you got 20 years ago.

What did you say that about Mario Chalmers?

I love Mario.

I have listened.

Mario is one of the toughest.

Mario don't get credit the way he should.

Mario is one of the toughest players I ever played with, one of the biggest shot makers I've ever played with.

Mario, to me, always, I feel like he got more out of what looks like his ability.

Like when you look at Mario, you don't see him doing it.

You're like, I don't think this guy's going to be that good, right?

Because he doesn't, he's not chiseled.

He's not hella tall.

He's not fast.

He don't jump high.

Mario still today plays the game of basketball.

Mario is still hooped.

I give Mario a lot of credit.

He was one of the guys I love playing with.

And if I was a starter team again and you asked me to pick 12 guys, I would pick Mario on my team because he's a fucking winner.

Okay, so who's your favorite teammate you can't name like Bosch, LeBron,

UD,

Ray Allen?

But for what?

And what favorite teammate for what?

Because

you got favorite teammates for different all right, favorite teammates to play with, favorite teammate to hang out with in your entire career.

Favorite teammate to play with, and I can't pick a guy that I actually like playing with.

Is that what you're telling me?

No, no.

You can't pick the usual suspects.

Because what we're going to do is a podcasting trick.

I'm going to say favorite teammate to play with, and then you're going to say someone other than LeBron.

Then we're going to put the clip out.

No, my friends.

Everyone's going to be like, holy shit.

Master's always the same.

What is it?

It doesn't change.

Shadonas has them.

Okay.

All time.

Favorite teammate.

Okay.

And then what about to hang out with him as well?

To hang out with.

No, that's always the guys that don't really get no time on the court.

Yeah.

The Mo is always the guys that, you know, is not one of the star guys, the guys you can kind of get away with, you know, get away and just kind of like, you know, be someone else.

You don't got to be that star guy.

You don't got to be cool.

You can just be who you are.

You know what I'm saying?

So I've had many favorite teammates that you will never know their names.

Yeah.

I know their names.

Yeah.

I mean, my favorite teammates go back to college, man.

Like, you know, I got guys in college that you, you know, you won't know their names.

They're my favorite teammates.

I still talk to them to this day, you know, in our final four run, guys that you will not remember.

Yeah.

Yeah.

On that final four run, did you have, did you at that moment have the confidence in yourself and the belief that you were going to go on to do all these great things?

Or was it that moment that kind of woke you up and you're like, yeah, I can, I can be one of the best?

No, you know what, man, I didn't think that way.

Like, I mean,

I knew I was good at what I was good at, but I always, you know, just had the mentality that like,

I never thought that far ahead.

You know, I'm an everyday person.

You know, it was just to me, I was just, I was always about getting better every day.

Now, I knew I can compete with anybody because I wasn't afraid of anyone.

Once you take away getting dunked on, shooting an airball, and getting crossed over, what else is it?

After that, it ain't nothing else embarrassing in the game of basketball.

Like, everyone's going to score on you.

Right.

And so once I was realized, okay, these are the only things that really people are embarrassed about.

All right.

Well, take that away.

Then let's just hoop.

And so I was never, it's basketball.

I'm not afraid of you.

Now you can score on me.

Okay.

Like my brothers could score on me.

My dad could score on me.

So like, I just kind of simplified the game of basketball.

So I knew I can compete with anyone.

It was just about getting the opportunity for me and once i got my opportunity i showed up every time and that's all so you weren't thinking at that moment like one day 15 20 years in the future i'm gonna have a really really weird looking statue of myself built no but i knew i was gonna be great i i it goes back to um i got a high school uh yearbook quote when i was 17 years old and they asked me you know in 20 years you know what would you be and i said i'm gonna retire as one of the greatest ever played a game of basketball i said it at 17 and i actually retired at 37 years old i retired 20 years later.

That's pretty cool.

Actually, pretty damn cool.

I retired as one of the greatest to play the game of basketball.

Now, whatever number, that's.

Well, at least in the 75.

But thank you very much.

So I did retire as one of the greatest.

So at 17 years old, I had the outlook.

I just didn't know how I was going to get there.

But I got there by my work every day.

And also, too, just by the people, man, you really got to find people along this journey.

You got to connect to them.

You got to hold on tight to them.

The people that's there for you.

Like God puts people in your path.

You have to recognize who these people people are.

I recognize those people throughout my journey and I stay connected to them, you know what I mean, to help me get to that next level.

And so I knew that I wanted to be that, but it was the work every day and it was the recognizing of, you know, and being honest and looking in the mirror at myself when I wasn't that good, when I wasn't doing the things that I was supposed to do, really holding myself accountable to that, to being one of the greatest ever played a game in 20 years.

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Okay, back to Dwayne Wade.

Can we talk about the statue?

Yeah.

Is that okay?

So when they unveiled the statue, what was your initial thought?

I have a statue.

Yeah.

Great statue.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's what I'm saying.

That is a statue.

I wasn't thinking like you guys were thinking.

I wasn't thinking like the photo that went out and everybody liked to say.

I wasn't thinking about that, guys.

Like, come on, man.

Technically, it's a statue.

It goes back to us looking at Luke and being like, wow, that guy's out of shape.

We're like, look how bad that guy's statue is the guy that got a statue for being great for so long yeah yeah listen i i get it like give me all the jokes i actually some of them were hilarious by the way like some of them i still i saved them in my phone i was like i gotta come back and laugh at this one later uh but no i wasn't thinking about that i was you know Once again, my mind goes beyond that.

My mind goes to my kids.

My mind goes to

small kids from the inner city of Chicago.

I go to all that.

Now, you guys have a job to do.

You got a job to do.

Your job to do is to make sure that you get as many clicks as possible.

And my statue became something that you guys can talk about that will get you clicks.

Yes.

Have at it.

It's hard to do that.

I feel like the statues fail like the Ronaldo statues.

No, they're tough.

Yeah, they're tough.

I keep telling people is I was there alone, like the whole process, right?

Like it was an incredible process.

But from clay to bronze, it's two totally different things.

It's two totally different statues from clay to bronze.

And so in clay, I was like, oh, yeah, this is going to go down the history as one of the greatest statues ever.

In bronze, it looks way different.

Everything is hardened.

Right.

So my,

it's way different in clay than it is in bronze.

Yeah.

It's intense.

It's real intense.

Yeah.

So it was some very strong like jaw structures.

And, you know what I mean?

And then too, like, everyone gets to look up at me with my mouth open and yelling with these strong.

Like, I, trust me, I understand, but in clay, it's soft.

Yeah.

Right.

It looks a little different.

It looks, I look a little bit more like me.

And then you put it in bronze.

And then obviously, and I was trying to educate people.

I said, also, you put it in bronze and it has to, it has to stand strong in Miami forever.

That is an extra dip in bronze.

That is an extra this.

Extra that.

It's even harder.

It's even darker.

And so I think my first reaction, once I got to reaction, was, damn, it's darker than I thought it was going to be.

Because every statue has different complexions of bronze complexions.

But because mine needs to weather the storm, mine had to be a little bit more.

It had to get a little bit more care on it in a sense.

And so it was definitely darker than I wanted it to be.

But like the expression that I wanted it to have, it had the expression.

It just hit a little, my cheekbones were a little stronger.

Yeah, it is very cool, though.

It's an awesome honor to have a statue, to know that you meant so much to one organization, one city, really, that they're like, we want you to stand here for forever.

Yeah, I mean, you could put everybody that plays sports in one room to have a statue.

And you can't fill this room up.

No.

So it's an elite class.

And listen, I think as long as people are making bronze statues, it's going to be hard to capture it to look the way that everybody's going to want it to look.

Someone is going to figure it out where it's going to look exact one day.

But it is a really tough process.

And it didn't hurt me that everyone was talking jokes.

I just, the people who worked so hard on it, man.

I hear you.

The families, that to me, I was just like, but also too, like, once you put your work out there, it's open for interpretation for people to say what they wanted to say.

And people said a lot that they wanted to say.

But ultimately,

what I wanted, them, and it's still happening, I still get at it every day.

A family, a kid, an individual, they go and they take a photo at the statue.

I was actually there one night.

Here's a story about it.

I was there one night when I was in Miami

late night to go see the statue for myself away from everyone, just me and my crew.

And it's this, it was like three in the morning, and it was a guy who walked up.

to see the statue.

Now, mind you, I'm behind the statue.

I'm looking at all the details.

He's not even at the statue yet.

He's walking up.

And he's like, oh, man, they fucked my man up.

And so I come around the statue.

I said, bro, did you even look at the statue?

Or are you going off of everything you heard?

Like, come here.

Let's take a let's take a look at this statue for a minute.

But he just automatically walked up with his own.

What did he say when he saw you?

Like, that's such a funny thing for the guy to be like, wait, does Dwayne Weed just stand at his statue all day telling people to look at it closer?

Yeah, I'm like, hey, come get a better.

You know what?

Matter of fact, how about you look from up top?

Everybody looking from down here, right?

But no, he, you know, he took a couple steps back and was like, oh man, I didn't.

No, you did.

I heard you.

I heard you weren't here.

But so funny.

It's all good.

Like, I just, I just want to, if I lived in Miami, I'd just pop up at the statue anytime.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

Like, say something.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Me and you did sit there like, say something.

But it's all love, man.

It's all love.

So we mentioned offhand there, but

75, when they did the 75th anniversary in the top 75 players all time, you were named on that list.

Incredible accomplishment.

One of our best accomplishments.

Yeah.

How did it feel to be named on that list?

And then when you get everyone together, what was that room like?

And was MJ talking shit?

So,

yes.

I remember being a kid watching the top 50.

It was in Cleveland when they did it.

It was the leather jackets.

They had the leather jackets.

I remember being a kid and watching some of my favorite players all be on the top 50.

And I thought, what, one of the coolest moments in the NBA to be in that list?

And I didn't know when they would ever do another list.

All right.

And so I didn't know if it would be 100 years or whatever.

But when they said they was going to do the top 75, of course I want to be in that.

Now, you got to understand, it's 25 years go by, and they only could put 25 more players.

And it's not 25 new players because some guys got left off of the original 50 list.

So let's say it's about 15 to 18 spots.

of new players in 25 years and you're one of them.

I mean, to me, individually, that was one of the most, that was one of the dopest moments of my individual life.

Like, I didn't go out to play as an individual and I didn't go off all the individual awards.

Like I wish I would have grabbed a couple on the way, but that was one that I tattooed on my chest.

Now,

but you really didn't understand what it really, really meant.

You just knew that you was getting this honor until we all got to All-Star Weekend in Cleveland and we all walked in the room.

And when you walked in the room, you saw the gods of the game.

You don't see the gods of the game.

You may see somebody All-Star Weekend.

You may, you don't see everybody together.

And so you walk in, like, Karine,

Oscar,

Bird, Magic.

Like, you looking at the gods of the game.

You like, oh, I'm one of them.

Oh, this is really cool.

Now, now you see everybody, like,

all of us up there smiling ear to ear now because now we're in this room.

And so we're in this room.

We all get to take the photo together.

Everyone's not there.

Now, my

75 players are not there.

It was 76 because it was a tie, too.

I don't know if everybody knows that.

76 players on the top 75.

I didn't know.

Did they say who tied?

No.

Okay.

They didn't say you know.

But it's 70.

It's 76.

I don't know.

I don't know.

You got a little smirk man you think I knew?

Yeah, you didn't know.

No, I was thinking, I don't know neither.

But Jordan wasn't in that room.

Okay.

Yeah, Jordan, he was actually, Jordan flew in.

We didn't know MJ was coming.

We didn't know who was going to be there when we took that photo in that room.

But that room right there let you know that you was one of them boys.

Yeah.

Can nobody tell me nothing out to been in that room, right?

Because when the 100 would come around, I would be back in that room.

Yeah.

Right.

So, but we all are waiting to go out, to go out and get our you know wave our little hand and get our love and that's when mj walked in and that you know you've heard multiple stories about mj coming in and like how he snuck in like the black cat and just kind of snuck up on everybody and started talking immediately right right away right at magic

and i you once again you can go back and look at the clip you can see my face i was like

oh this is happening like michael and magic is talking shit yeah like what i'm privy to this conversation I'm a kid who grew up watching these guys.

And like, you know, obviously these are some of the greatest ever play.

And I'm now a part of this.

I get to be behind the scenes of this.

And Mike come in and he's right at him.

And they was serious.

It was no games with Michael.

He really was like, get your sneaks.

Mix them up

right now.

And Magic looked around and saw them cameras, like, well, you lucky these cameras.

I'll tell you something, right?

It was just one of those moments where he's like, two of the greatest ever is talking shit.

Oh, that's incredible.

It was incredible, man.

But obviously, they're obviously best of friends.

But that was the moment for me.

And I said it.

I'm on Reggae Center.

That was the moment for me.

I was like, oh, I made it.

Yeah.

I'm in heaven.

I would say so.

I don't know if I'm going to heaven in regular life, but I know in basketball life, I'm in heaven.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's pretty surreal.

It's pretty insane.

Incredible.

Yeah.

All right.

So

you are going to be on Prime Video.

So Amazon Prime, you're doing the NBA show next year.

Give us some analysts talk.

Who's going to win the title?

Some analysts talk.

Yeah, some analysts talk.

We can't do that.

That makes an analyst talk because I can tell you who I think is going to win the final.

Yeah, give it real grandiose.

Yeah, get really, really explain it to us like we're five years old.

Who's going to win the finals?

I don't know.

I'm going to start there.

Yo, that's a bad start.

You got to give us some.

I'm just telling you the truth because no one knows.

But

I will say,

if I had to pick right now, because y'all are forcing me to pick one of them.

Forcing me.

Yeah.

i think the best team is okayc

i think

but it's not about the best team we've beat dallas in a year where they were the best team when we won the championship if i had to pick right now i would say minnesota timbers won the finals okay

right now and

and that is it's it's the aura of and

Yeah, and

it's the way, well, it's the way that the aura of that young man, the way that you see it filters into everyone that he's playing with.

That right there, when you get to that finals, you need that.

You need to believe in somebody that wholeheartedly like that.

And I'm not saying these other guys don't.

I mean, listen, any one of these teams can obviously win.

There's four teams, and they all can win.

It's going to be historic, whoever wins.

But from what I've experienced by being in the finals,

if they can keep this up, what that young man, the way that he can,

the way he puts his

Ant-Man on the game,

no one else does that.

No one else goes to that level like him when he goes to that level.

And these guys are very good.

I mean, you got Brunson who is fourth quarter, clutch time, money, Shay, MVP, right?

You got these guys who are at that level, but when you talk about who got it, who got that sauce,

Ant-Man just got that sauce.

Now, they got to keep it up because we all know those first eight games mean nothing.

The first eight wins mean nothing.

You got to get to eight more of them.

And so who knows if he's going to get there?

But right now, if you ask me, I'm going to say he got the sauce that you need to get to that finals.

Okay, so counterpoint, I don't hate to take, but last year I would say he also had the sauce.

Did he just get the sauce this offseason?

Like something changed about him, right?

No, he grew up a little bit.

I mean, it's only one year difference, but it's a big difference.

He got to experience it.

He was in the Western Conference Finals last year.

He played against the guys who went to the finals.

That's a different summer.

than someone who lost in the second round or the first round when you lose in that space.

And so you see someone, you send a mature player.

He had the sauce.

He's had the sauce his his whole life.

I'm sure when he was, he had let you know when he was five, he had the sauce.

But once you lose in the way that he lost, you watch the team that you lost to go off to the finals and all those things, it's a different mentality that you come back with.

That man has come back and put his spirit into the guys.

And you can see it when they're playing, right?

And he's a leader of that team.

And so if I'm choosing.

Maybe a little bias because I see a little, you know, maybe I see a little reflection sometimes.

That's what I thought.

Yeah.

Yeah, maybe a little bias.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

As a young guy, I mean, I wore mine at 24.

He's 23.

You know, I want to see somebody come and take it.

But

I think he got what is needed when you get to that stage.

As you understand, you heard Shay say the other day, game seven, he was like, I was nervous.

Yeah.

You could feel it in the first quarter.

You're supposed to be.

These are, you have never felt these emotions before.

Yeah.

That is the second round seven game.

You got to keep going.

Yeah.

You got to get to these.

It gets it gets hot.

Listen, you get more nervous as it goes on.

on and so i think someone like and is just i think he's he's ready for that step and for that stage and that stage them lights get even brighter that popcorn get even it smells even better in that yeah it gets even richer in that arena that crowd get even louder and so to win the the ability to be able to pump that confidence in those other guys is what is going to be and okc has what i think is the best team overall from top to bottom in this but it's not just about that when you get to this to this place that they're hopefully going.

His defense is so good.

Something about Ant that reminds me a little bit of your game.

He seems to be the type of rare player that when he's playing in front of an opposing audience, when he's on the road, he feeds off the crowd just as much on the road as he does at home.

Right?

Like, he brings his confidence to them.

He brings it to the game where he hears everybody booing, hears everybody yelling at him, screaming, and he elevates his game.

He's like, I want to shut them up.

You have to love it.

Just as bad as he wants to make the fans at home cheer.

Yeah, you have to love it.

and at this time you got to actually you got to love playing on the road more than you love playing at home it's easy to play at home you're not saying you're going to win everyone but you're going to get more help

your role players you'll get more help yeah

you're not going to get as much help bro and you know what so what this is your response it's your responsibility everybody looking at you you the man you the one with all the commercials you the one with you the one with all the attention they ask they all looking at you and you gotta you gotta love that and so i personally love that i love playing on the road i love going to win on the road we won our first finals on the road in game six.

I had 36.

I love that.

Put me in a position that is the most uncomfortable and watched me come out smelling like roses.

And so if you don't have that mentality, you're not winning that championship.

I don't care how close you, you don't care if you go up 2-0.

Right.

You got to love winning on the road.

It's not going to happen.

Was that your favorite?

Because we always talk about this, like best sports sounds.

And one of the best sports sounds is when a road player, like you can feel them take the soul of the, of the, of the fans.

You know what I mean?

Where that like, like hitting a big shot on the road and that like scream, gasp is so, it's something about it.

It's Folgus Crystal in the morning.

It's a sweet

coffee in the morning.

Yeah, the whole, the whole stadium knows like this guy just beat us.

Oh, it's incredible.

Yeah.

It's nothing better than that.

It's nothing better than when you walk out and you got the opposing fans looking at you with their, they just respect you, right?

They end up cheering for you.

It's nothing better than turning them into a fan of viewers.

Yeah.

Right.

And that's what, that's the kind of aura that Ent has.

He has the aura where you hate him, but when he gets done, you're going to love him.

Yeah.

Because you can do nothing but respect it.

Yeah.

And you know, along the way.

And so, yeah, it's nothing better than that.

He's a very fun player.

I got one more question for you.

I think it's more of a statement.

You might be a magician or a witch because of your pump fake.

Are you aware of how good your pump fake was when you were a player?

Well, yeah, I see people flying all the time.

And you would do it constantly from the three-point line.

And people guarded you.

I think there's a stat out there that shows that people guarded you closer than any other player in the NBA from the three-point arc when they were playing defense

right now I'm not I'm not bringing this up to to trash your three-point uh percentage but it was like 29%

career which isn't it's not a great three-point percentage but they guarded you so close on the perimeter yeah like they expected you to make it yeah because they didn't want me to touch the ball it was it just like no matter where he is on the court we're going to be as we're going to guard him as closely as possible well yeah because here's the thing i'm not if i'm not a three-point shooter you play off me when i get the ball i'm coming at you downhill you cannot stop me so your goal is to make make sure that I don't touch the ball.

And so, it was a stat when I played in my prime years where I think I was up there like with Ray Allen and those guys when it came to the defense trying not to allow me to get the ball at the three-point line.

I was up there with the top three-point shooters, and I was the worst by far three-point shooter.

But some guys, you just do not want them to get the ball in their hands because that's the rhythm for them.

And it wasn't my job to shoot threes, you know what I mean?

Like, you, you're Michael Jordan's, he had a quote where he talked about, he's like, I don't want to be a great three-point shooter because it takes away what I'm great at and what I love about my game and the game because it makes me stay on the perimeter searching for threes no i want i am downhill i am trying to put you in the basket i i i i have to get in the paint so i can get my teammates shots that is my job my job ain't to sit out there like oh oh that wasn't my responsibility and so but i did find respect i did look at the respect that i got amongst my peers that knew i'm not making this shot but 29 of the time but you guarding me like i'm ray allen one of the greatest three-point shooters ever yeah that's respect right there.

So now I'm going to back cut your ass.

Yeah, and the pump fake was great too.

Yeah, the pump fake.

I stole that from Sam Cassell.

Oh, Sam Cassell.

I stole it from Sam Cassell.

I just added my own little mix to it, but I got it from Sam Cassell.

So how do you steal a pump fake from somebody?

Well, I watched him do it and I was like, he's coming up the court hella slow.

It's the lowest pump fake ever and everyone's jumping.

and going for it.

So because I wasn't a three-point shooter and because I will come downhill at a player, the defense natural reaction is to stop you from scoring.

The closer you get to the basket, the more you want to stop someone from scoring.

I'm really going to pump fake you the closer I get in.

And so everyone's job is to jump, close out, jump.

If I get, create space and I get you a step off, your job is to recover.

How do you recover?

Jump.

And so for me, it's just, it's the law.

I understand the body.

I understand like, all right, you got it.

You're going to come back and I'm going to do this and you have to contest my shot.

You don't want me to score.

So I'm going to give you this.

You're going to jump.

I'm going to to act like you did something to me.

And I'm going to go to the free throw line.

So to me, it was like, it's all about, you got to have patience.

You know, I talked about this, and I talk about this all the time.

A lot of players, when they get closer to the rim, they lose patience.

That's when you got to have your most patience, the closer you get, because the defense has less patience.

Right.

When you are in scoring, when you're in scoring position, the defense gets a little erratic and they want to strip you or block your shot.

That's when I'm really going to hit you with these slow-ass pump fakes.

Yeah.

Shows different speed.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, who's got got the best pump fake all time?

Me?

Sam Young is actually the answer.

Do you remember his pump fake?

What makes it Pittsburgh?

Do you remember him?

Do you know who I'm talking about?

How do you say that, though?

What makes you say him?

If you ever watched him, he got the most free throws off.

No, he just.

Did he look the best?

He would go all the way up on his tippy toes.

He'd have guys running through the crowd.

And I don't think he even played that.

That's like the GOAT conversation.

Whoever you think is who it is.

Yeah, I'll show you some highlights of him.

You'll see.

Would you ever see him?

Yours was very nice, but Sam Young.

I don't know.

He had people jumping past him.

He would go all the way up on his tippy toes.

Yeah, and I guess.

Would you talk shit to people if they jump?

If you're like, got him?

Oh, yeah.

Listen, it was game plans.

You would hear

the whole coaching staff on the opposite team say, do not jump for his pump fake.

And I'd be like, you know, you're going to jump for my next pump.

Because it's in your mind now.

Yeah.

Right.

Now they have made it worse for you because they're now telling you, don't jump for my pump fake.

It's coming.

You don't know when, but I'm about to hit you with these three jumpers in your face, and you're not going to like that.

So, what you're going to do eventually?

You're going to try to stop me.

That means you got to jump because if you don't jump, I'm just dotting your eye.

So, eventually, you're going to jump and I'm going to get you.

I used to tell people all the time, I don't go and get you.

You know that, right?

Because if you don't, that's a bucket.

Yeah.

And you got to let them know too if they jump and you drive past them.

Oh, yeah.

I got you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, all right.

I got one last question.

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This has been so much fun.

The Larry O'Brien trophy here.

Awesome conversation.

We'd love to have you on anytime.

You're a recurring guest now.

So when we ask you to come on, you have to come on, just so you know.

Okay.

That you signed something when you walked in the door.

I don't know if you read it, but it's basically whenever we want you on, you have to come on our show.

It's not like my wife.

Yeah.

Well,

I'm not going to eat you by.

No, my last question is, we were talking about it before we started taping.

We have a mutual friend, Tom Creen.

Obviously, you're closer to him than we are, but we're fairly close with him.

We've had him on many times.

Really love him.

Was there a moment when Tom Creen at Marquette

instilled to you?

You talked about the Shaq confidence.

Did Tom Creen have a moment where he was like, hey, you're going to be special?

And

you have an opportunity now.

Do you remember that moment or that sequence where he kind of gave you that confidence of like, oh, this is different.

It's not just college basketball.

It's going to be something more.

Oh, yeah.

He's one of the most important people in my development.

In my development as the player that you guys got a chance to see, Tom Creen.

Tom Creen was on my ass

to a level of tears coming down a lot of times because I didn't understand why he was on me so hard.

But he obviously saw something in me that

I didn't know was there.

But I was talking about one of the things Tom Creen taught me.

and which made me a very good basketball player.

And it was my ability to get so low on picking rolls.

And we drilled this over and over.

We drilled anytime I touched the paint, you better dunk it.

Like this was, this is how we, this was my summer workouts with Tom Cream to the point where like, you know, I was young.

I was

leave, I get kicked out of practice or I throw the ball and walk out of practice.

And he'd come right down and

get your ass back up here.

Like he was on me.

And I was, I was, I was young.

I was going through a lot of a lot of things in my family life when I went to college.

And I wasn't mature enough yet.

And I had a lot of things going on, but he would not allow me to be less than what he thought that I was going to be.

He thought I was going to be great.

The year before I entered the draft, I told everybody I was leaving to enter the draft because

I didn't want to work.

We were running lines and all this shit.

And I was like, I'm out.

I'm going to the NBA.

He flew in at like 3 o'clock in the morning, called me down to the office and scared the living shit out of me.

But what he pretty much told me is that you didn't come here to be average.

I'm not allowing you to go to the NBA to be in the second round or to be late first round.

You came here to be great.

And great has been in the lottery.

And so if we ain't, you ain't there, you ain't going nowhere type, you know, like father figure.

He was a father figure for me at that time.

And I respected him.

Obviously, you know, I stayed one more year and I went number five, right?

And so he was just somebody who was on me and he saw something in me that I didn't even know was inside.

He pulled things out of me that I didn't even know could be pulled out of you.

You know what I mean?

And so, you know, I sit here and I see him not coaching and I see, and I, and I, and I, and I look at that and I see so many kids who not get an opportunity because they're not getting coached by him to get the to get greatness pulled out of them yep and that's the thing just because you have it in you don't mean that you're going to be able to showcase it to the world you got to know how to do that you got to have somebody that can see that in you and could pull it out of you tom cream pulled all of my greatness out and then you guys got a chance to experience it but it happened in marquette in that small ass gym in milwaukee uh and and i give him and our coaching staff a lot of credit for not allowing me just to be good and they forced me to be great that's awesome He is the best.

And he coached Ant too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And he coached Ant.

He coached Ant.

He coached Victor Lodepo.

He coached

some dynamic guards, obviously, other guys as well.

But when Ant goes back, you go back to Ant-Man's press conference when he decided to go to Georgia and they asked him why you go to Georgia.

He said, because Tom Crean coached Victor La Depot and Dwayne Wade.

That's why I'm going to Georgia because he's going to get the best out of me, right?

Just like he got the best out of two of the best, two guards that played.

When Vic was healthy,

Vic was a bad boy.

And so give him credit, man give Coach Green credit for having some of the greatest players to play the game and a great guy too yeah amazing guy amazing guy well Dwayne thank you so much for stopping by this has been awesome we also will promise I I had someone looking up like doing a prep sheet for me and I guess our social team has spelled your name wrong every single time they've posted anything on our Twitter so we're gonna make sure we get it right this time It's all good, man.

Every single time.

Every single time.

Is that memes?

Yeah, memes.

I'm so used to it at this point.

At the end of the day,

Dwayne Wade is getting attention.

Even if it's one before the A or the one with the Y, it depends.

Would you say

D-Wade?

Yeah.

Did you screw that up?

I worked hard for D-Wade, so just call me D-Wade.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I've screwed it up too.

Memes, you got this.

I'm going to get cremated, but when I do leave this earth, I'm going to make sure that both Dwayne's is represented on my way out.

It ain't going to just be the Y before the A.

It's going to be the A before the Y too.

He had a great run, too.

People, 100 years from now, when they're looking you up online and their brain chip that they got or whatever, they might misspell it when they're both.

Right, so you want to make sure that we got them both.

So we're actually helping you.

We're doing the work.

We got two brands.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just don't call you Dean Wade.

Yeah.

Let him have his own brand.

Don't call him D-Wade neither.

Y'all stop that now.

Don't give my nickname away.

I'm underwear confident.

Definitely not.

Call him Dean.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, thanks so much.

We really appreciate it, man.

Appreciate you guys taking a moment, man.

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All right, Fire Fest.

We got our guy oldie in the booth.

So Oldie's here.

We got something that we taped this week that's going to be out in a couple weeks.

Oldie, you smell so bad.

I almost threw up smelling your armpit.

It's absolutely disgusting, and I truly apologize, but I mean, I tried.

I tried to spray.

I tried to think, but it just

shower?

Yeah, I did.

I shower after the thing we filmed.

Have you used Dove Men's Body Care?

I sprayed that on before.

Yeah, he did.

I watched him spray it on.

Is there any truth that people are calling you moldy?

Oh, I hope not.

I know, it's just me.

It's just me.

I'd rather take the M out and throw the G back in for Goldie.

I'll take Goldie Oldie all day.

Yeah.

But it's bad, dude.

Max, take a whiff of it.

Take a whiff of it for the people on YouTube.

Oldie, also slide this way.

Yeah.

Yeah, there you go.

Take the shirt off.

One big whiff.

Skin to skin.

I legitimately almost threw up.

Give me 10 seconds.

I'll just give him a normal sniff without a blow

plus the blow.

No, he's been doing this.

He's been walking around

and putting his arm over his head and then blowing the scent at people.

Yeah, like a fan.

Yeah, like one of those things at the house that scent that comes out.

Yeah, so you also

get the armpit.

It's so, so, so.

I didn't lift my arm yet.

I haven't.

No, but I'm just prefacing how bad it's going to be.

Max, do you think it's bad because it's the armpit plus his breath?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I just saw Big Cat's.

No, I'm not going to.

I saw Big Cat's reaction, and he literally

crying.

I tried.

Can I just do a breath?

Look, my breath is.

Try my breath, and then we'll do the armpit.

Talk to Mike Haldie.

Why don't we.

Oh, dude.

That's nice.

Max, give it one big whiff.

I got to do it.

Just one big whiff.

Stay strong.

Come on, you got this, Max.

I was seeing stars.

It is.

It's like.

You got to do Hank, Joe after smelling salt.

Yeah, Hank has to do it after.

Yeah.

Oh,

oh, dude.

He's pulling it.

Oh,

you know what?

It's like.

It smells so bad.

I actually just like

gagged in my mouth.

Yeah.

What's the worst thing you guys have ever smelled?

Maybe that.

Go get Hank.

Go get Hank.

We did a

stinky class

on the case race a couple years ago.

Oh, yeah.

I wanted to die.

It was like Zaz Pubes.

Yeah, it was smoking.

And like a smoker.

And burned hairs.

And like, yeah, it was, that was, that was as bad as it's ever been.

That's pretty bad, yeah.

Anything when you're hungover, yeah, yeah, New York City, when you're hungover, is

extremely.

You know what it is?

It's the hot trash.

Yeah, yeah.

The hot trash of New York is the worst.

All right, give him, give him a good whiff.

Give him a good whiff.

Hank, you have to do a good whiff.

You got to really take it in.

Hit him.

Yeah.

Hit him.

Hit him with it.

Hold on.

Okay.

You ready?

Yeah.

Smell it.

Get yourself in there.

Wait, wait, holdie.

Let me get a hit.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

Let me take a hit.

Let me take a hit.

I gotta smell this.

Oh, I gotta smell this.

I gotta try.

This is some good podcasting.

Oh, my God, everyone.

Look at it.

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Hank literally just puked for people wondering.

Like, actual pew.

I have tears in my eyes.

Three, two, one.

It's so bad, dude.

I'll take another hit.

I'll take another hit.

Dude, Hank, some pew.

Go make me pew.

Oh, my God.

Okay, I'm good.

All right, get back in the booth, Olivie.

That was awesome.

I can't believe it.

How do you smell?

How does that smell happen?

It's just a combination of all of that.

How does that happen in real life?

Great white North.

Hank, you okay?

Yeah.

Oh, I think I'm going to pee.

Like, at first, I mean, it was quick, but I was like, oh, it's just B.O.

And then

it has some.

It's B.O.

Plus.

It is.

It is.

It's B.O.

Plus.

Hank, your Firefest?

It's B.O.

Max.

Nothing crazy.

The AI debacle.

Big Cat posted the video on Twitter.

Yeah.

And he tagged me in it.

Just said, is this real?

Had any use it?

Your puke breath is kind of cute.

Puke voice.

Yeah, it's kind of cute.

A little raspy.

Yeah.

He's just throwing up back here.

23 million views.

And every, you know, because you tagged me in it, I was just, every single person was just like,

duh, duh.

Or no, obviously not.

Obviously not.

Obviously, not.

How dumb are you?

How dumb are you?

I mean, I posted, like I said, on the show, because I thought, you know, obviously I should have known this, but I posted on my Instagram story without context.

And then people get people were getting mad.

About what?

About the Anaconda.

Oh, yeah.

I had friends that texted me screenshots of the Anaconda that they saw independently.

And they're like, this is not the picture that Hank thought was real, right?

I was like, Max 2?

Yeah.

That's the one.

The one where it's in the middle of the room.

Yeah, dude.

Yeah.

Big ass Anaconda.

You'll know what's going on down there.

It's 200 feet long.

I was scared.

I was like, fuck.

Oldie, put it on.

At least that one,

I was like, this can't be real.

And did some research.

But yeah.

I mean, that wasn't really a fire fest.

It was fun.

But

I took Oldie to hot yoga yesterday.

Yeah, he actually blames part of the smell on the hot yoga.

Did you shower this morning?

He showered at the hot yoga.

He said he showered four times since then.

And you think it's the hot yoga has like unearthed something in you?

Yeah, I think it was just a a huge decompression or like detox or whatever came out.

I don't know.

And your body just expressed itself.

Well, it was like the hardest class of all time.

Like, old, I thought we lost oldie a couple times.

I thought I was losing, I thought I was gonna die.

And Oldie's flexible.

Well, that's what he was doing, Splits of the Office, and he was like hanging out right before we left.

And we were like, You want to come?

He's like, Yeah, I used to do it all the time.

And then he was, I mean, it was very funny having him there.

He was, you know, walking up to all the instructors after being like, Thank you for the practice.

Thank you for the practice.

And then one of them was like,

I haven't done this in seven years.

Oh, wow.

I thought he was like, I thought when you said, like, oh, you know, I do it all the time.

I was like, oh, yeah, fit right in.

Yeah.

It was a hard class.

But it was like,

it was me, Chef Donnie, and Oldie.

And when the class ended, there was like the Nile River of sweat for the three of us.

It was disgusting.

So yeah, maybe I don't know how that unlocks whatever that smell is.

Something happened.

The smell is hot.

Yogurt.

Yeah,

it was funny, but it was like I looked over a couple times and I thought Oldie was down for the count.

Yeah.

It was a great practice, though.

Great practice.

Great practice.

I felt bad.

I felt bad being like, yeah, this was probably not the one to bring you to.

It was a lot of water, a lot of sweat out.

I wanted to say, like, you know, I think it's maybe from the yoga, but all the boys, the boys that boys that know back home, the B.O.

is pretty strong.

Oh, that's a new thing?

Yeah.

It's been around.

It's been around.

Can we get a spray?

Do we have the dove?

I did that twice, three times, before even.

Is that a family thing?

I don't know.

I don't think, no, Papa Dukes don't smell like this shit.

No.

I mean, I don't know if I'm what I'm consuming or whatever.

Like, I mean, I even try to take my girls' deodorant and they say, Dad, no, don't touch it.

Don't touch it.

I mean, nothing works for me.

Oh, man.

I think I got to go to like a like a science building to say, like, what can what can what what can what what can we make to make this go away?

Yes.

Like, is everything already everywhere?

Where would you find a science building?

Dove dove's probably got something.

We should do that as an ad.

But they do eight-hour guaranteed 12 hours, and then they throw the 24-banger on there.

The only thing in life you can't change is a clock, 24 hours.

So you got to get it.

Yeah, but we should get you, like, Dove doing an ad where they're like, we have got the smelliest guy in the world, and we've made him smell fresh.

You get prescription.

Max is back.

Max, Max, we said no Hamas.

Oh, Max, what are you doing?

I needed a face covering.

You guys got like one whiff of it.

We're just living in it back here.

Okay.

PFT.

So your Firefest says you are dumb with AI,

and then I made it worse?

No, I knew I was dumb, but it was the 23 million views and the amount of like, you know,

people responding about how dumb it was to think it was real just made me feel a little bit worse.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Sorry.

I apologize.

You know, you can mute the conversation.

I did.

Oh, yeah.

That's the best

feature on Twitter.

When I woke woke up, it was like,

this is bad.

Oh, I mute conversations.

I'll mute a conversation the second I throw out a take.

I'll just be like, here's a take.

Mute.

I mute every single one of the aggregators.

Yeah.

Because they tag us in all

everything.

And then you get the dumbest replies ever and the dumbest arguments that last for weeks.

Sometimes Caleb Williams wore a different style of shorts today, and I just all of a sudden have like all these mentions from ML football.

And I was like, oh no, did something big happen so I unmuted he was just wearing different shorts yeah Jaden Daniels is looking different at training camp what do you notice and then it devolved into a big conversation in the comment section that gets into like Brock Purdy at some point yeah just mute that whole conversation sorry Hank so the only thing is Hank you're just too trusting I think

it was a cool video I'll stand by that if it was real it would have been awesome and the noises and it was the it was the whale thank you yeah the thank you that I was like you know as a whale advocate I was like yes did you see the video oldie

Max, show me the video.

I think I did.

Was it the whale?

I didn't see the anaconda.

I seen the whale push off.

It was the whale that had like heavy equipment

driving on its back.

What was Anaconda?

But did you think that was real?

At first, I was like, oh, they can scalp it pretty good.

And then I was like, nah, oldie, come on, that's a tractor.

You don't see a tractor just floating on the ocean like that.

Like on a whale.

Good reasoning.

I'm thinking, okay, I grew up on a 100-acre farm.

I never seen this shit before.

But then you think 2025, and then I said, nah, this isn't, it's one of those new IA things.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, PFT.

My, my Fire Fest of the Week is that I officially felt old as fuck, like middle age last week.

Because I got a power washer on Saturday.

I went out to Home Depot, picked up, I rented one about a year ago, and I got it, and it was awesome.

And the guy was like talking shit to me.

Like, he's like, you never used one of these before.

I don't know if you can handle it.

I was like, dude, I'll handle it.

No problem.

I got this.

And I did it, and it was awesome.

And then I said, I'm going to buy one of these things.

I'm going to get one of these things.

So last Saturday, went to Home Depot, picked one up, brought it home.

I'm addicted to it.

Yeah.

You just start finding shit around.

I could power wash you, oldie.

That might work.

That would, but you ought to be careful.

Yeah.

Are you dealing with a battery or gas?

So that's really where the fire fest comes in.

Okay, so we'll hold off on that because.

Yeah, I was, I put a video out because I wanted to piss people off.

So I did a video of me power washing my patio and I intentionally missed a spot so that people would be like, What the fuck, dude?

You missed a spot.

Some people were mad about that.

But then I didn't realize that I stumbled into a deep, deep hole online that I was not aware of, and that's power washing Twitter.

Oh.

And they were like, dude, you have an electric power washer?

I would hide that thing when my friends come over.

Yeah.

You have an electric, dude.

That's the gayest thing that I've ever seen in my life.

And now I'm like, I got to go back and get a gas-powered one.

Oh, no.

I got 2,000 PSI on it.

I thought that's pretty good.

You could tell all these things.

You could tell the stream.

When I I was watching your video, if it was gas, he's like, yeah.

Why else you didn't have it on the most powerful stream on?

It ain't fuel.

It ain't fuel.

I don't care what you're going to save this and save that, but it ain't fuel.

You get fuel.

You better hold on two hands of that pistol.

She's going to be flipping and flopping.

You want to cook with something 3,500, 4,000 sheets.

Well, what can 3,500, 4,000 sheets do that 2,000 can't?

Absolutely piss pump the shit out of that thing double times.

Two times.

Double times, dude.

Piss pump the shit out of.

God damn it, I should have pissed it.

Double times.

You know all those stains you get on the concrete and stuff?

Yeah.

Busy, busy, busy.

Gone, gotta go.

Those are right there.

You're like double lapping

with the battery guy.

I don't know.

Or electric.

Maybe sometimes, but it has different streams.

I got the different nozzles to it.

And one of them is like zero degree.

And that one, I think I could cut my toe off with that one.

So another thing, too, for everyone, it doesn't matter who you are, where you're to, where you're from.

Pressure washers are very dangerous.

You always got to keep a distance away, even if it's electric or gas.

It's close enough, you can literally cut through someone's skin.

So that zero is cutting through someone's skin.

Yeah.

Right?

So even as it's lost right out.

But yeah, you just got to keep away.

It's the most satisfying thing in the world to power wash something.

To clean.

It's so good.

I have a walkway in front of the homestead there.

And it always gets stained and stuff.

So it gets all like black and dark and from all the leaves falling.

I pressure wash it off that thing.

Yeah.

Immaculate.

Mine's electric too.

Electric too, but it still works.

Well,

you can't be talking all that shit about my electric one if if you're pumping out electricity, too.

I know.

It still does the job.

It still works.

But at the end of the day, we're soft-ass pit bitch old men.

We need the real gas one.

You want to hear that?

You've used the gas one, right, oldie?

Oh, hell yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Means his dad was roasting me.

That's how bad it got.

Oh, no.

When you finish, like, are you like, you know, touchdown score?

Oh, it cleans, like, beautiful.

Beautiful.

Yeah.

So.

Put your arms up.

Yeah, like, let's touch down.

Yeah, it's great.

It's a great relief.

It's a a great relief.

But you know what?

It's still good.

How good does it clean things?

It's awesome.

It is actually like the coolest tool I've ever used in my life.

I'm just finding stuff around my house.

I'm like, I should power wash that.

I should power wash it.

When it rained the other day, I was pissed off.

I was like, I can't power wash in the rain.

It sucks.

But I was talking to some of the boys at the office about it, and they had a pretty good idea.

Just get a bunch of fruit and play real-life fruit ninja.

Oh, I love that.

With a power washer.

Just throw shit up in the air and try to saw through

with the water.

Zero angle.

You need the zero.

Zero angle.

They don't want the 12 or 15, the 15 or 30%.

That's like a spray.

I think I could cut through a banana easy with a skid on.

I know you can.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I could circumcise Biz.

Yeah.

Yeah, you could.

You can help him out.

The least win the cup.

You should have to do that.

I'll circumcise him with my power washer.

Yeah.

Oh, clean.

That's clean, too.

Straight line.

I like that.

Yeah.

Cauterize it.

Hot water.

All right.

My Fire Fest.

I talked about it last week.

And you should watch the Viva TV that is out now.

Dwayne Wade behind the scenes.

Also, my cream team, which

Jacob and Zach in the office, who I hired to be my cream team.

Ben Mintz.

Ben Mintz is

a

advisor to the cream team.

He's not officially.

He's the advisor on free stuff.

Got it.

He was tasked with doing what he was doing.

Showing him the way, yeah.

Yeah, letting someone DM him and then him being like, yeah, I can get you a meeting with Dave Portnoy.

Just give me like a free

tough.

Yeah, very good.

I've made the purchase.

Oh.

And it's coming tomorrow.

Whoa.

So it's not going to be fully operational tomorrow because we need to get the actual manufacturer out to put it all back together.

Like there's a couple pieces that need to be put back in.

But the soft serve ice cream machine will be in the office tomorrow.

And it's probably going to be an expensive mistake, but I don't care because

it's never going to make any money.

Well, no, it pays for itself if it works.

And, like,

I think.

Not actually.

No, it does.

You can make money.

It pays for itself for sure.

What do you mean?

Well, you're not like we're getting any return.

Let me explain.

Ice cream.

Let me explain.

Let me explain how this is.

It pays for itself, dude.

Let me explain how this is going to make money.

In about four years' time, when Brandon Walker's contract comes up and he's getting offers from Fox Sports and ESPN and Caller Daddy to leave and join them, they're offering maybe twice as much, but we're like, Brandon, we still got the ice cream machine.

He's like, God damn it, I got to stay.

But we might not have to.

I just love this place so god damn much.

It's probably going to break down, but

it's gonna pay for itself.

That's why, but aren't they gonna learn how to use it?

Yeah, they're gonna learn how to use it.

I mean, I didn't, my cream team is not the smartest guy.

How do you clean that thing?

Uh,

it's probably gonna need your power washer.

That's what I was thinking.

No, it's uh, there's a whole thing.

We also struck a deal with the people we're buying it from who have like a whole warehouse of different parts and all this stuff.

They're gonna do a deep clean once a week because I also learned about Listeria this week.

Which you can die, we don't want that.

You can die from it, yeah.

So the only thing standing between us and Listeria is the cream team.

Yeah, it's bad.

So wait, the only thing staying between us and Listeria is exactly who?

Jacob and Zach.

Okay.

Yeah, the cream team.

Do you guys ever clean your dishwasher?

Yeah.

Sure.

All right, good.

That makes me feel good.

Sure, do.

Once a week.

What do you find out?

That's the thing you have to do.

Oh, you run.

Oh, no, you run it.

Are you talking about running it?

Not taking it out.

No, he's talking about in the bottom as a filtration, the filter thing.

Yeah, definitely.

You can pull the filter out and shake it.

You don't have to do it all the time.

Once a month.

Yeah, once you're done.

I thought you just run it.

Once a month.

Yeah.

It's like your oven.

That's what we do.

Yeah.

Once a month.

You do that, right, Hank?

No, I did it for the first time in a year.

How was it?

Gross.

Yeah, all the food.

It's a filter through all the, so all the food doesn't run down the tube on the outside, so it collects it before it runs through.

It's like a time capsule.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not good.

Not good.

But either way, we got ice cream on the way.

I'm saying we're going to have soft serve ice cream in this office within the next 10 days.

And

boys, I've done the math.

The only thing that we have to,

and I talked to Max about this, the only issue is

it's a big industrial machine, so everyone's going to have to pull their part.

Like, I'm going to have to do ice cream checks.

Like, have you had your ice cream today?

If you haven't, got to go.

Hank?

Hank's banned.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

No, I unbanned him.

Okay.

News started to post that.

Fake news.

Max.

I thought about this.

I think I would like sample cups right next to it, and I think I might have like 20 sample cups a day.

Okay, that's fine.

That's great.

You know what I mean, though?

We're going to have cones.

Sometimes

I want like a little taste, but I don't want the whole thing, but I'm going to have about 20 little tastes every day.

What's expected per week?

What numbers do you need?

How much you weigh?

180.

You're going to have to eat about seven cones a week.

That's easy.

Me,

I'm going to be around the 12 to 14.

morning, night.

I can get

guarantee you that there's going to be several times where at lunch I'm like, oh, shit, I didn't bring a lunch.

I don't really feel like ordering.

I'm just going to eat ice cream.

Sundays are going to be a joke.

Oh, man.

I'm going to eat so much.

You may have seven on Sundays.

I'm going to eat so much ice cream on football Sundays.

We're going to have to do bets of like every time your team gets scored on,

eat a cone.

Oh.

Yeah, so excited.

It's going to be great.

Yeah, it's going to be so great.

So let's hope it works because the only fear I have about the ice cream machine is once we introduce ice cream into the office you can't then take it away if you take it away we'll die yeah like if you just have everyday soft serve ice cream and they're like oh today you don't have it anymore that's death do you know why the mcdonald's ice cream machines are never up yeah i found this out from my cream team so they had a bad deal with a manufacturer that uh

The deal was only they could fix, like the McDonald's staff couldn't fix their machine.

Right, right.

So they had to call in someone.

It's like printers.

There's always, you always have to call in like Pitney Bows or some shit to come fix your printer.

But the update is the cream team told me that deal actually ended about six months ago.

Oh, so it's back.

So they're back.

So they no longer have to go through that.

Okay.

Big time cream team update.

I'm excited.

Yeah.

Very excited.

I might eat more in the winter.

I might too.

I love ice cream in the winter.

Yeah, especially because you get to wear a sweatshirt.

Yeah.

So you don't have to feel fat after.

Old, do you want to wrap us up?

You got a fire fest?

I was going to say because

it doesn't make you cold.

Oh, yeah.

But that too.

That's a great point.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Lego, that ice cream machine sounds really, really good.

Yeah.

So I don't know if it's my room to step on any toes or get excited about this, but like, what if we got sauces on the side?

We're gonna do toppings on Fridays.

Oh, just toppings Fridays only.

I think sprinkles every day, toppings Friday.

Yeah, because then everyone.

What's that name?

That's too much high expectation if they want it every day.

That's too much.

You only eat it on Fridays.

If you don't want to show up on Friday, guess what?

You ain't getting toppings.

You get no toppings.

No, I know.

You guys know me.

I know me.

And I know I'm being resistant.

And I know, but once I start, once I enjoy a cone, I'm eating like 20 cones a week.

Yeah.

That's bad.

Right.

No, but that's what

we need.

That's what we need.

That's a great life.

That's what the quota is.

The quota has to be at a certain point.

And I think you're eligible and totally capable of finishing this off in seven days.

Let me ask you this, Hank.

Do you think there's ever been someone on their deathbed who has said to themselves, man, I wish I hadn't eaten all that ice cream?

Probably.

Actually, yeah, maybe like someone who like dies of heart failure.

All right, but do you think

that was a bad question?

Strike that from the no, because I think they're like worth it.

Yeah.

That's probably other stuff, yeah.

Yeah, right.

But do you think, has anyone ever been like, ooh,

I, you know what I need to do is eat less ice cream?

Do I think people, yes.

Okay, these are bad questions.

Tell me about PFT.

Well, no it was a bad answer.

I think that people that are on their deathbed that have heart trouble, they're like, I wish I hadn't smoked those cigarettes.

I know they're probably like those cigarettes.

Yeah.

All right.

All right.

Here's a question.

Easy question.

Ice cream.

First word that comes to your mind.

Ice cream.

No.

These two words.

I was hoping you were going to say, like, good, awesome.

Love it.

Summer.

Ice cream.

Good.

Right?

Yeah.

Do you want more good things or less good things?

More.

There you go.

There it is.

No, I know.

What if we got the Chaco Taco Shells and we did Taco Tuesdays?

We could do that.

We could absolutely do that.

All right.

Cherry salsa.

Oldie, you got a Fire Fest?

Yeah, I got a Fire Fest.

There's always something bumping.

There's always something grinding.

I appreciate you guys, everyone here, everywhere across the stool.

Max is pulling

it down.

I'm trying to tell my story.

Yeah, tell your story.

Tell me your way, old.

And he's grabbing me and mulling me over here.

Like, it's not nice.

Speaking of that, was kind of what almost happened to me.

So I appreciate you guys.

You, the boys from the Chicklets, threw me down there.

Game six in their barn.

I came in live.

Let's go.

I met up with memes.

Dale, Beauty.

He was my camera guy.

Went down there, solo, dolo.

Great moves.

You had awesome moves behind the glass.

I thought they were phenomenal.

So I'm dancing on the glass, having a good time, firing up the boys, getting them in the kitchen.

Gotta go busy, busy.

All of a sudden, the next thing you know,

security is telling me, hey, buddy, you can't be doing that.

You gotta go.

Buddy, I'm just having a good time on the glass.

Like, what do you mean?

Oh, no, your shirt's undone.

You can't be doing that.

It's working.

Buddy, we're in the state of Florida.

Yeah.

Everyone here is topless.

I've seen more thongs today than I have in the last three years up in Canada.

So what are you telling me?

I can't have my shirt on.

It sounds like sexism.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I was so like, okay.

So I'm talking with the guys.

He's like, what the fuck?

I was like, what the fuck?

So I'm like, why is this happening to me?

So I'm fucking now.

I'm pissed.

I'm like, okay, dude, I'm just trying to have a good time.

I'm not harming anyone.

So we're all in the group in the console thing.

He's telling me.

So I said, guys, it's all good in the hood.

So he walks away.

I start walking away, me and Memes, to go grab another cold one.

Quick.

People are coming oldie, oldie.

The guy in the all-green, canine security dog.

They got the dog on you?

No, it's the guy in all green, but he's in like a canine suit.

It just says canine pass.

Oh, I was going to say the dog would probably like sniff you and die.

Oh, he would have been hungry.

He would have been passed right out on him.

They would have thought what happened to it, little poochie.

He's done.

So I'm standing there.

We walk away.

All of a sudden, he comes up to me.

Hey, motherfucker, did you hear what I said?

You do that down the glass again, and you're fucking out of here.

I said, hey, sir, listen, I apologize.

I told the guys I'm sorry.

You're all good.

He goes, no, you didn't hear what the fuck I said.

I'm going to drag your ass out of here, pal.

And you're gone.

Okay, brother.

My bad.

All good.

I appreciate you.

Go ahead.

No big deal.

Second period comes on.

Bollies are buzzing.

The leaves are going.

Next thing you know, I see this guy comes back in between the second and third intermission.

Right away comes up to me.

I thought, oh, fuck, here we go again.

What did I do now?

Hey, hey, man, I'm really sorry about that.

I want to apologize.

I didn't realize who you were.

I said, what?

I said, are you fucking shitting me, pal?

You were ready to spear tackle me right through this brick wall.

You were hungrier than the fucking.

You haven't looked like you've eaten in a long time.

So he power checked and he just like just apologized.

I appreciate you.

All good, man.

All good.

And I'm thinking to myself, you mother dog meat.

You were going to, he was ready to drag my ass.

And he was an oldie fan.

He was an oldie fan.

The next thing you know, they told him who I was.

That's fine.

Second clearance.

Third period comes up.

The boys are buzzing.

We're up 2-0.

Or we're up 1-0.

I went to the glass.

Gotta go.

Shirt open.

Let's go.

Let's go.

So I'm like, I'm like this.

I'm like this.

Let's go.

I got the boys buzzing out there.

All of a sudden, the guy comes up.

I go back and sit in my seat.

It's hot in here.

I got to leave this off.

So the guy comes back up.

And the next thing you know, he comes up.

Hey, come over here.

I said, no, no, I'm not going anywhere, sir.

The usher again, the third time.

I'm not going anywhere, sir.

Please.

And then the cop comes, hey, come on over here.

I said, listen, officer, I don't want to go anywhere, brother.

Please, I want to stay in the barn.

He goes, listen, you're a beauty.

You're doing a good thing, but he's not kicking you out.

I'm venting for you.

I got you.

I said, officer, please, man, I ain't doing nothing wrong.

We go walk upstairs, have another conversation.

Third time,

shooting the shit.

All of a sudden, we're talking.

Next thing you know, I'm apologizing.

I appreciate this, sir.

Shaking his hand.

He goes, okay, no more.

I said, I promise no more shirt off.

So, as I'm walking away, everyone thinks I got booted, right?

I see Twitter, people saying, get out of here.

My old lady's texting me, are you gone?

Are you okay?

I said, no, I'm good.

I'm good, baby girl.

I'm good.

Max, where are you going?

Max, come back.

Max, come back.

Max.

The next thing you know, we're upstairs.

I'm shaking his hands here.

I apologize.

All good.

Okay, man.

Just enjoy the go of the game.

So memes is catching it on the whole video.

And you know how there's the drape curtains?

You know how there's the drape curtains there?

Yeah.

A little crossover.

So I walk through the drape curtains after.

I said, okay, buddy, take care.

I look around.

I say, you can't cook out good vibes.

Lego, busy, busy.

They tried to boot me three times.

So no dice.

You ain't kicking me out here.

We're land up right on the glass level.

There we go.

Cheering on the buds, telling them, let's go.

Scotty Lawton giving me the fist pump.

I'm fired up.

It is so wicked in there.

We got her going.

The buds came.

And the fire fest is I went back for game seven and I tried my best.

And unfortunately, they couldn't pull through for me.

No.

But yeah, I got my ass almost stackled.

Even in Toronto, that other guy, I'm dancing on the glass.

One ostraci comes up.

Hey, you can't be doing that, buddy.

I said, sir, I'm having a good time.

Five minutes into the warm-up dance.

Another guy comes in.

hey you're gone buddy you're gone his name i i think his name was richard i looked at him i said hey listen richard no problem i'm gone no no you can't be doing that on the glass here i said listen i'm with the guys they got me ticks i'm out of the bump and grind out here so the guy that got me the ticks he said hey no these guys are good they're with us we're with the scotia bank all of a sudden security walks down i said oh fuck holy it might be another one kicking kicked out of my own barn he comes to the guys Security goes to the usher, talks to them.

Hey, don't touch him.

He's good.

The security guy.

He's a main made guy security guy walks away all of a sudden because there's all these people crowded there are filming you're getting excited and all you just hear oldie oldie and then i saw i just inspired and embraced it i said let's go

right back down on the glass burning turn oh and i got shell shock but uh yeah that was a little bit extended for your um fire fest but that's really life real life

awesome you can't keep

numbers

all right all right we'll finish the show oldie always great having you appreciate you love you you all.

Love you, Dego, boys.

Bump and go.

Numbers.

35.

17.

Oldie, what's your number?

I got to go back to the roots.

It's got to be four.

Come on.

It's got to be my number.

It's got to hit.

Max, what's it?

One.

One for Max.

I'm going three.

Memes.

Did you say a number?

33.

One.

99.

Pug.

30.

21.

It's going to be Nasher.

If it's Nasher again.

Nasher again would be all time.

Pug looks like he's going to cry in there.

I saw Pug give a look I've never seen in my life.

Oh, 95.

Shane looked like a dad that thought he smelled weed.

Love you guys.

Lego.

Busy, busy.

Lego.

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