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Speaker 2 Today is Wednesday, September 24th.

Speaker 53 And

Speaker 35 the Detroit Lions are going to be just fine because they went into Baltimore on Monday night and they look just as good as ever.

Speaker 9 Yeah, they were awesome. And this was a great game.
The football was good on Monday night. Football.

Speaker 9 We need to remember as we're looking ahead.

Speaker 9 We always say, like, if you get a bad game, just wait a little bit. The NFL will have a way of figuring out.

Speaker 9 We'll be rewarded for our patience dealing with the shit if we can get to a good primetime game like this. We actually need to put this one in the spank bank for next weekend.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 For next Monday night, because we're going to need it to get through those two doubleheaders up there

Speaker 9 next weekend. But yeah, it was a great game.
The Ravens didn't play that bad. The Lions were dominant on defense in terms of sacking Lamar and getting to Lamar.

Speaker 9 You rarely see people

Speaker 9 be able to bring Lamar down one-on-one when he's trying to get out of the pocket. Yeah.
The Lions were doing that consistently. The Lions' offense is awesome.
They're back where they used to be.

Speaker 9 Jared Goff, if you look at Jared Goff's stats since he became a Lion, you could make the argument that statistically he's the best quarterback in the NFL. He's awesome.

Speaker 9 By the stats, by the numbers in terms of yards, touchdowns, touchdowns, all that stuff, he's awesome. That was great to watch.
The aggressiveness from Dan Campbell continues to be awesome.

Speaker 23 So I wanted to talk about that because we're going to talk about the Ravens, but I want to give the Lions their flowers.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you had the same thought, but when it was fourth and two with two minutes left,

Speaker 60 I would have been, it's like everything is flipped now.

Speaker 28 I would have been stunned, floored, jaw on the floor if they didn't go for it.

Speaker 51 Yeah.

Speaker 64 Like they went to a commercial break.

Speaker 51 I was like, of course they're going to go for this.

Speaker 29 Yeah, they're going to go for it.

Speaker 9 They're going to win the game. That's what Dan Campbell is going to do every time.
If you don't know Dan Campbell by now, you'll never understand the man. And he is quietly a nerd.

Speaker 9 He does every, he's like the worst type of nerd for nerds because they're like, this guy is not allowed to use our data and be so smart because he's also a tough guy and an alpha male and the classic central casting football coach.

Speaker 9 Yep. He doesn't just go with his gut.
He actually goes with the numbers. And the numbers have it.

Speaker 9 Every single time Dan Campbell goes for for it on a fourth down, it's not because he's in like fuck it mode. I'm Dan Campbell.
I've got a wad of chew in my cheek the size of Texas.

Speaker 9 It's Dan Campbell, the thinking man's Dan Campbell.

Speaker 26 Yes.

Speaker 9 And it was, I think, a plus 2% win probability, which isn't a lot. That's pretty much one of those toss-up situations, but it was still like leaning towards going for it, being the smart call.

Speaker 9 And with that offense and with Jared Goff and St. Brown, you go for that every time if you want.

Speaker 34 And the genius of that play is

Speaker 37 the tiny details of what the Lions are.

Speaker 13 They have a bunch of wide receivers, specifically Amon Ross St.

Speaker 67 Brown, who is awesome in the run game in terms of blocking.

Speaker 35 And that play was set up to look like a run where the defensive holding, which they didn't even need because it ended up working, but the defensive holding is because Amon Ross St.

Speaker 38 Brown was doing what you'd think in a run play where he is blocking and then he slips out and gets free.

Speaker 56 And like, so that all is built built up in how they play football and how their wide receivers are willing to block without the rock.

Speaker 24 And the Lions are really good. And I agree with you.

Speaker 54 I don't know if the Lions did something different or practiced something different, but it felt like for the first time in a long time, I was watching a defense be able to get to Lamar.

Speaker 39 And also, not even this, he was sacked a bunch, and Aiden Hutchinson was an absolute beast.

Speaker 57 He is fully back.

Speaker 68 But the way they were able to trip him up a bunch, where it's like even when he was scrambling, they were able to, like, I don't know if they specifically practiced, like, just go for his feet the whole time, get his feet, because it felt like they did that multiple times where we're used to Lamar getting free, and they were able to take a dive at his feet and trip him up and sack him from behind.

Speaker 32 And I don't know what, I don't know what the Ravens were doing.

Speaker 2 I feel like

Speaker 3 I'm kind of sick of the Ravens.

Speaker 9 So I think the Ravens are a good football team, but this was a playoff type loss for the Ravens.

Speaker 9 You could see this exact same game plan working its way out in January at some point. So it's like the Ravens are a great team, and they'll beat

Speaker 9 a lot of teams this year. They'll have a great record, but do you trust the Ravens? Yeah.
Do you trust them? I don't. Because I do not trust them.

Speaker 34 They keep doing the things that drive me insane with the Ravens.

Speaker 2 They are so good. Lamar is so good.

Speaker 22 Derrick Henry in short-yarded situations on the goal line just doesn't work.

Speaker 81 I don't know why they keep doing it.

Speaker 9 Is he not a good short-yarded runner? Yeah,

Speaker 2 the take has been there for a long time on this show.

Speaker 9 So

Speaker 9 he also just has a fumbling problem right now. He's fumbled three times on 43 touches in 2025.

Speaker 9 If you look through the course of his career, he's had like maybe one season where he had six fumbles, one where he had five, but most of them are like two fumbles a year, three fumbles a year.

Speaker 43 Yeah, he's not a fumble.

Speaker 9 He's not a fumble guy.

Speaker 9 There are fumble guys. Ramondre Stevenson is a fumble guy.

Speaker 80 Remember Tigi Barber was a fumble guy?

Speaker 19 He's a fumble guy.

Speaker 85 Then he learned how to hold it high and and tight.

Speaker 23 I actually don't, as unfortunate as it was for Derrick Henry to fumble again in a big moment, that one was just an incredible play by Aiden Hutchinson.

Speaker 48 I think 99% of the running backs fumble on that one.

Speaker 9 It was a great play by Ed Oliver, too, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 55 So it's like, is it a fumble problem or are they just making incredible plays?

Speaker 59 Because that Aiden Hutchinson play was incredible.

Speaker 2 I mean, he came from behind and punched it out so perfectly that I think most guys do fumble in that situation.

Speaker 35 It just happens that the Ravens have played two primetime games and we've had two very notable fumbles from Derrick Henry.

Speaker 29 He fumbled in the second game as well.

Speaker 85 But those stick with you.

Speaker 88 So I don't know if it's a Derrick Henry fumble problem.

Speaker 11 I'm just more like, I don't know what the Ravens, like, they were, Lamar was getting sacked.

Speaker 9 The first problem with Derrick Henry's fumbles are he's going to,

Speaker 9 he's so deep in the fumble zone now that now he's going to be thinking about not fumbling when he's running the ball. That's going to make him worse as a running back.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I just, there's something about the Ravens where it's like these big games.

Speaker 34 I just don't, yeah, I don't trust them.

Speaker 9 It was also their defense. So their defense was

Speaker 9 might end up doing what they did last year and just figuring out their defense in the second half. Right.
And then they'll be great and we'll go into January being like, these Ravens are unstoppable.

Speaker 9 This is the year for Lamar.

Speaker 9 I still won't trust them at that point, but they do not give up long drives like they gave up on Monday Night Football.

Speaker 50 Right.

Speaker 9 They don't. It had been since 2001.
That was the last time that the Ravens gave up a drive of 95 yards or more. And it was

Speaker 9 24 years, and they did it twice on Monday night.

Speaker 2 So when I say I'm done with with the Ravens, I'm not actually done with the Ravens because I think they're very good.

Speaker 31 I do think that the loser of the Chiefs-Ravens game might be a potential take-a-future on that team

Speaker 68 just out of value.

Speaker 23 I'm just more, like, the Ravens are so frustrating to watch sometimes because they're so good, but

Speaker 70 they also just make these mistakes.

Speaker 5 And even when they did the Derrick Henry pass play in the red zone, and it almost was picked off, it's like you have Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 9 Why were they running that play?

Speaker 85 The next play, he throws a seed to Mark Andrews.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Lamar played really well last night. You can't put some of those sacks on him.

Speaker 9 The Lions were making great plays on defense.

Speaker 80 Yeah, so

Speaker 34 it was the Lions, like the Lions, I think, are

Speaker 23 top-level, like, hey, remember week one, how bad they looked?

Speaker 18 That feels like ages ago because

Speaker 29 it feels like it's the same Lions that we've watched the last couple of years.

Speaker 9 Did you catch this on the broadcast that their kicker Bates is a former brick salesman? Yeah. He used to sell bricks.
Yeah. He's Mincy.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 9 He's Mincy. It's crazy.
Like, what kind of work do you have to do selling a brick?

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Like, hey, do you need a brick?

Speaker 9 Okay. I'll put that brick in your face.
Here's a brick.

Speaker 94 You need a Columbia connection. Yeah.

Speaker 2 By the way, the Derrick Henry fumble, the one thing you could say about his fumbles is the timing is not the best.

Speaker 15 So in his career, by quarter, he's had four first-quarter fumbles, three second-quarter fumbles, two third-quarter fumbles, ten fourth-quarter fumbles.

Speaker 80 Now, obviously, that's also probably where a lot of his carries come from.

Speaker 22 Um, the other thing that was crazy, did you see, did you hear Troy Aikman mention, it just you forget how the NFL has changed so much that uh Derrick Henry has played, I think, in the NFL for 10 years, I believe, nine years, whatever it is.

Speaker 77 Uh, he's half, he just got halfway to Emmett Smith's carries.

Speaker 22 That's crazy.

Speaker 87 Emmett Smith played 13 years.

Speaker 2 Now, I know Derrick Henry was committee running back by committee to start his career in the Titans, but it's more, it's not like an anti-Derrick Henry set.

Speaker 68 It's more like, holy shit, they would make those guys work back in the day.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that's pretty crazy. But Derrick Henry has also, I mean, after those first couple seasons, he's been the epitome of a workhorse back.

Speaker 24 Yes, of course.

Speaker 88 Of course.

Speaker 28 But even a workhorse back in today's NFL is less than what, in terms of carries, total usage than what it used to be in the 90s.

Speaker 9 I also like Troy just reminding us about how good his Cowboys were. They were good.
Actually dropping that in there. Yeah, I think we can say Derrick Henry has fumblitis.
Yeah. This is fumblitis.

Speaker 9 This is what fumbolitis looks like.

Speaker 9 When he slumped on the bench after he fumbled, too,

Speaker 9 that was a tough look.

Speaker 25 Yeah, he looked like a toddler crashing out.

Speaker 9 He looked, yeah, he looked like he was just, he was embarrassed. He's embarrassed with how he's playing.

Speaker 9 Lamar, I think I love the Jerry Curl on Lamar. I do too.
I think that's a winning haircut right there. I think the Ravens, they'll make the playoffs.
They'll probably win a first-round playoff game.

Speaker 9 They got to get the defense.

Speaker 25 They've allowed the most points so far this season, 97 points through three games.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 26 It's a lot of points.

Speaker 9 And the game where they blew the Browns out, they actually didn't look that great.

Speaker 24 Right. That was

Speaker 2 the statistics of that game.

Speaker 28 I mean, they did blow them out.

Speaker 19 It was a blowout. Doubt.
But,

Speaker 82 yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 60 Is it panic button time for the loser of the Ravens Chiefs game?

Speaker 98 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 99 Has to be. Yeah.

Speaker 94 Do both those teams make the playoffs?

Speaker 2 Go into your head right now. I think so just because of the AFC.

Speaker 68 We had this discussion, but the AFC does feel like it kind of falls off a cliff after

Speaker 22 the Bills, Chargers, it feels like it falls off a cliff, and then you have the...

Speaker 78 I mean.

Speaker 94 Which team, if they go 1-3, has a better chance of making the playoffs? Like, if the Chiefs go 1-3, do they have a better chance of making the playoffs versus the Ravens?

Speaker 25 I would say the Ravens just because of the division, because obviously Joe Burrow is now out.

Speaker 2 They get to play the Browns again.

Speaker 27 They play the Steelers, who I think they're better than the Steelers, even though the record doesn't show it.

Speaker 14 I would say probably the Ravens.

Speaker 60 Because the Chiefs, I mean, the Chargers, I had this thought the other day or this morning.

Speaker 68 All the talk before this season is like, can the Bills get over the hump?

Speaker 22 You know, can they finally take out the Ravens or Chiefs?

Speaker 72 They were the favorite to win the Super Bowl before the season.

Speaker 38 What if neither of them are there and it's the can the Bills beat the Chargers?

Speaker 95 Yeah,

Speaker 9 I would say if the Chiefs lose, I think they're still going to make the playoffs. Chiefs do.
I do, because they're getting Xavier Worthy back at some point.

Speaker 9 Their offense is limited without a receiver. I think they're getting Rashi Rice back at some point, if he can mind some.

Speaker 94 Six games, right? Yeah, but auto-drafted him in fantasy. It kills me every week.

Speaker 102 Oh, no.

Speaker 19 No, Hank.

Speaker 9 That's the worst thing Rashi Rice has ever done.

Speaker 94 For any one of those free rice shirts. Yeah.

Speaker 60 So here's the Chiefs schedule because it does, it is hard.

Speaker 35 Like, they're going to have to win some games late in the season

Speaker 2 because they have the Ravens this Sunday. Then they're at the Jaguars.

Speaker 77 Not an easy game. Nope.

Speaker 24 The Lions at home.

Speaker 101 Nope.

Speaker 81 The Raiders at home.

Speaker 95 Yep.

Speaker 32 The Commanders at home.

Speaker 101 Nope.

Speaker 84 At the Bills, at the Broncos.

Speaker 93 Nope.

Speaker 43 That's not easy. Maybe.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 But once they get rice, Hank.

Speaker 4 Once Hank gets rice. What was that? You don't think you can beat the Chiefs?

Speaker 9 I don't want to say it out loud.

Speaker 103 Believe.

Speaker 9 I don't want to say it out loud.

Speaker 9 There's some Commanders fans that are very upset with me for not being more of a homer for the Commanders right now. Yeah.
But that's just how I feel. Like, I

Speaker 9 to go into Kansas City on a Monday night and win. You play scared.

Speaker 19 It's going to be really hard.

Speaker 9 I do play scared. I'm scared.
I'm a scared little boy. You're not playing to win.

Speaker 9 When it comes to my football watching and viewing experience, I am a scared, frightened little boy and a child at heart thinking that all the worst things are going to happen to me.

Speaker 9 And it's going to take years of terror. I'm going to get hurt.
It's going to take years of... Well, no, Hank.
I was pretending to be hurt. You thought I was actually hurt.

Speaker 19 I was.

Speaker 19 Gotcha, bitch.

Speaker 11 The Ravens are playing the Chiefs.

Speaker 32 Then they're at home against the Texans, Rams, and Bears.

Speaker 63 So that feels like probably a two-in-one.

Speaker 32 Right? Texans, Rams, Bears all at home?

Speaker 98 Bears, yeah.

Speaker 97 No,

Speaker 97 we're not going to beat the Ravens.

Speaker 13 And then at the Dolphins, at the Vikings, at the Browns.

Speaker 29 So I would say the Ravens, if they go one and three, have a better chance.

Speaker 104 Yep.

Speaker 9 Okay, that's fair. I just do think that the Chiefs are going to get better.
They're not going to be this better. Although, there was a...
Did you see the clip of Andy Reid and Kelsey on the sidelines?

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 This time it looked like Andy Reid kind of initiated it. Like, if you were to take what happened in the Super Bowl and reverse it, Reed got in his face and kind of belly titty bumped him a little bit.

Speaker 9 I think he hit him with his tit.

Speaker 94 I think we had a video of Mahomes throwing an absolute duck and then, like, the, you know, a clip from two years ago of him throwing an absolute bomb.

Speaker 29 Mahomes doesn't look, I mean, it's, it's okay to say he gets all benefit of the doubt from what he's done in his career, but in terms of the last year and a half, like, because remember, last year, it's not like the Chiefs were killing teams.

Speaker 32 They had, yeah, they had some very, very close games.

Speaker 19 Also got mollywhopped in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he doesn't look,

Speaker 37 it's not the same it looked three, four years ago.

Speaker 2 That's a fair statement to say.

Speaker 9 It's like ever since Riola started to take all his shit.

Speaker 19 Yeah. It was

Speaker 9 a monster situation.

Speaker 37 He's stealing his powers.

Speaker 9 And then in terms of news, we have Russ, it feels like it's done.

Speaker 43 Dayball said they're evaluating everything.

Speaker 38 And then the media tried to hold him to it. It was like, so like quarterback, he's like, we're evaluating everything.

Speaker 9 That's what you got to do as a coach that hasn't. competed really.
You got to say

Speaker 9 every position is up for grabs. We're going to look at all the tape.

Speaker 107 We're going to bring in the basketball team to try out.

Speaker 9 No job is safe,

Speaker 9 including mine.

Speaker 69 And then the other one, you guys, commanders are going to play the Falcons.

Speaker 22 The Falcons are already shuffling the deck chairs in the Titanic.

Speaker 15 We've talked about this many times before, but the sign that things are a problem is whenever you move a coordinator from the booth to the field or from the field to the booth, and they've done that after three weeks.

Speaker 13 Zach Robinson, their OC, is going down to the field.

Speaker 26 Yeah, they fired.

Speaker 9 James was right. They fired Ike Hilliard, their

Speaker 9 receiver's coach, and then they moved Zach Robinson down onto the field, which is a sure sign. They're going to start asking him to.

Speaker 9 He's on a pip right now. Zach Robinson is clearly on a pip.

Speaker 9 They're going to start giving him assignments that are just impossible and really have nothing to do with his job just to keep him busy so that other people can actually do his job for him.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 9 It's not looking great. Hey, this is what you get when you get a pro-football focused guy.
You get a data guy.

Speaker 13 Get a data guy.

Speaker 3 And then he's, yeah, so memes, credit to you.

Speaker 13 You had that take on Sunday.

Speaker 94 Credit to me.

Speaker 79 Credit to you. Credit to memes.

Speaker 6 Also, I saw a crazy stat

Speaker 57 about,

Speaker 38 I think it was the Vikings.

Speaker 77 I think the Vikings have played.

Speaker 35 I think the Vikings defense has been.

Speaker 29 I got to try to find it, but it was some crazy, like the Vikings' defense has played so much better than anyone else in the NFL under Brian Flores. So credit to Brian Flores.
Yeah, there was.

Speaker 29 He doesn't get enough credit.

Speaker 22 He had Jake Browning in a torture chamber.

Speaker 9 They were incredible.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 54 I'm going to try to find the stat.

Speaker 19 I don't have the stats.

Speaker 9 Also, credit to Carson Wentz.

Speaker 3 Yeah, also credit to Carson Wentz.

Speaker 82 Big time.

Speaker 3 Big time credit to Carson Wentz.

Speaker 103 He's a shit.

Speaker 53 All right.

Speaker 86 Any other cleanup stuff from the NFL on Sunday?

Speaker 9 We got any cleanup stuff. I'm trying to remember what we need to clean up.

Speaker 35 Any cleanup stuff?

Speaker 19 I don't think there's a lot we have to clean up.

Speaker 22 How are you feeling, memes, with the Jets in terms of Aaron Glenn?

Speaker 38 That was one of the funniest, most perfect

Speaker 13 edits done as Aaron Glenn dancing to Earth, Wind, and Fire.

Speaker 21 Did you see that?

Speaker 9 I did, yeah.

Speaker 88 It was so perfectly timed up.

Speaker 31 It was almost made for that.

Speaker 9 Jennalane did that, yeah. That one hurts.
But it was a cool celebration. I love the celebration.

Speaker 9 It's like split online. They're like, you know, your team's about to blow it because your defense sucks.
But

Speaker 9 what is he supposed to do? It was a fantastic play.

Speaker 9 Also, for all the screenshot merchants out there, and I'm speaking specifically about Stephen Shea mostly, that did the zoom in on whether or not the Bucks center got his foot stepped on on that field goal.

Speaker 9 Get over it. You guys won.
Yeah. You guys won.
It was close enough. They protect the centers a lot.

Speaker 82 Don't worry about it.

Speaker 62 I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 6 The lamest thing you could possibly do is argue a call in a win.

Speaker 9 Technically, somebody touched our center, and you're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 9 It's a rule that is questionable at best, and because they violated on a technicality in a game that you won, anyways,

Speaker 9 get over it. Get over it.

Speaker 2 Oh, they should make goalposts 100 feet tall.

Speaker 50 Yes.

Speaker 86 There was that kick last night for the Ravens that looked like it wasn't good.

Speaker 29 Why not?

Speaker 9 I think that one was actually in. It was.
But there was another one earlier this year. Yeah, just make the goalpost a little bit taller.
Or Titus always says put a crossbar on top.

Speaker 19 See how square that you have to kick through.

Speaker 94 That kicker had all the time sour puss face after he

Speaker 94 didn't reach the landing zone and then was on the sidelines like he was looking like he was blaming something like he was mad.

Speaker 94 It was all him, but he had the face of like trying to blame someone else.

Speaker 19 Yeah,

Speaker 44 just like that.

Speaker 82 That couldn't have been me. Like, something happened.

Speaker 103 Like,

Speaker 102 the wind blew up or something.

Speaker 103 Yeah, that was a great kick.

Speaker 9 There is one more thing

Speaker 9 that Jerry Jones said yesterday that I think we should discuss. He said that the Cowboys will not have a video tribute for Micah Parsons on Sunday.

Speaker 50 Oh,

Speaker 9 he said it's not appropriate. What does that mean? Do you agree with Jerry?

Speaker 25 No.

Speaker 9 You think that they should? You think the the Cowboys should do a tribute video for Micah Parsons?

Speaker 111 I don't think so. Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 9 The way it ended? We're still waiting for the Isaiah Thomas tribute video to come out for the first time. No, they did one.

Speaker 105 They did one. They did one.
They got that? Yeah.

Speaker 9 We have to establish the criteria for getting a tribute.

Speaker 94 Isaiah Thomas definitely deserved one. Micah Parsons, I guess, because of the way it ended, and it's so fresh.

Speaker 94 I guess not.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 31 Oh, here it is.

Speaker 86 By the way, I have it.

Speaker 38 This is from Mike Sando.

Speaker 77 In the 23 Flores-era wins, the defense, the Vikings defense has been 20 times more productive than the offense from EPA standpoint.

Speaker 31 I don't understand what that means, but it seems significant.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, it's kind of an insult stat for the offense. Yeah, but also how good their defense is.
But also, their offense.

Speaker 9 Like, last year, I never once thought that the Vikings' offense was ever even a problem. Yeah, but it was

Speaker 9 defense was just that good.

Speaker 68 Yeah. Oh, we did have Nick Bosa.

Speaker 6 He tore his ACL.

Speaker 57 That fucking sucks.

Speaker 9 Yeah, that really sucks because Kyle Shanahan said after the game that they didn't think that it was torn. Yeah.
And then they looked at it.

Speaker 9 Good news, though, I think this is maybe the best ACL tear of all time because I saw everyone that works in NFL media was tweeting out. It was a perfectly clean tear of only the ACL.
Oh.

Speaker 9 The other ligaments were not affected. So he's good.
So he's got, yeah, they're calling it the greatest ACL tear of all time.

Speaker 35 The Niners just continue to be the most hurt team

Speaker 43 every single year.

Speaker 82 It sucks.

Speaker 26 They just can't.

Speaker 65 I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 103 They just get hurt.

Speaker 19 All their best players.

Speaker 2 Maybe the problem for the Niners is don't have so many good players.

Speaker 26 Because if you don't have that many good players and someone gets hurt, it's like, well, he wasn't good anyway.

Speaker 23 They have too many good players, so the odds are one of their good players is going to get hurt.

Speaker 9 That's a good point.

Speaker 47 Right?

Speaker 35 Like, if I was building a team, I'd be like, let's build the team out of like mid-players.

Speaker 29 That way, if there's someone injured, we're not like, damn, our season's over.

Speaker 65 Our best player, one of our best players, got hurt.

Speaker 9 What if you just started all your second-stringers to begin the season? That's a good idea, too. And let them get hurt.
Then it's you're in the best, the best possible next man-up situation.

Speaker 19 Yeah, right, exactly.

Speaker 76 But yeah, that sucked

Speaker 65 that Nick Bosa did that.

Speaker 20 So I think it's his second time he's torn his ACL week two of 2020 versus the Jets.

Speaker 99 That stinks.

Speaker 57 That stinks.

Speaker 97 Okay.

Speaker 112 Should we talk some college football?

Speaker 82 Yeah. Before we do that,

Speaker 28 game time.

Speaker 57 Can we get the whiteout game?

Speaker 64 Because I think Hank and Max are going to be.

Speaker 94 Yeah, we are. We are.

Speaker 19 We are.

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Speaker 2 We're looking at the whiteout, Penn State, Happy Valley, Saturday night.

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Speaker 19 Ooh, okay.

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Speaker 19 Max. Yep.

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Speaker 98 You stood up everything there. You called me Matt.

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Speaker 94 What's the stadium called? Beaver Stadium?

Speaker 111 Yeah. That would be correct.

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Speaker 56 Hank, is this your first big,

Speaker 68 like, huge college?

Speaker 26 Oh, no, you've been to a bunch of college for fucking.

Speaker 10 That was true.

Speaker 90 It's his first time.

Speaker 77 I forgot he went to the SEC.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he did a whole tour. Yeah.
But it is the first time in the Beaver.

Speaker 94 It is the first time in the Beaver.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 82 Get in that Beaver. The nitty beef.

Speaker 53 First big, big 10 game.

Speaker 13 I guess we went to Wisconsin.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 94 Ohio State.

Speaker 94 I don't know. I'm excited for the whiteout.

Speaker 103 This is going to be rocking.

Speaker 94 It's going to be rocking. This place is going to be literally on fire.

Speaker 9 I got a question for you guys.

Speaker 9 Are we counting this as a big game for James Franklin? Yes.

Speaker 19 100%.

Speaker 82 Yes.

Speaker 9 This is under the big game.

Speaker 26 100%.

Speaker 9 Capital letter big game. Yes.

Speaker 94 Is it stealing?

Speaker 115 I have to wear white right yes you got to get a nice like

Speaker 9 real nice we'll go we'll go shopping we'll go shopping friday when we get there yeah well i'm just going to wear i don't know that i'm going to wear i guess i'll count down i guess i'll rock i'll i'll yeah i'll bet on pens i'll technically i would agree it's a big game for james franklin because if they lose then oregon will be a top five team no they are a top they are a top team i thought there were six i thought i mean they're i thought there were four they already are i mean if they're ranked six they're a top five team already there this is this is this is absolutely a big game for James Franklin.

Speaker 9 Oregon has beaten the shit out of teams, right?

Speaker 19 Everyone.

Speaker 118 It's a big team. It's a big count.

Speaker 23 It's an absolutely big game.

Speaker 9 It's two teams where we don't really know how good. They both look like they're really, really good, but we don't know shit about Penn State.

Speaker 92 They're five in the coaches.

Speaker 9 Yeah, five in the coaches, six in the AP. Yeah, depends.

Speaker 19 But they're a top-five team,

Speaker 52 in my estimation.

Speaker 13 What were you going to say, hey?

Speaker 94 Hasn't Penn State played no one?

Speaker 94 Yeah,

Speaker 44 Oregon's also played no one.

Speaker 29 Oregon's played no one as well, because Oregon.

Speaker 19 But they played better teams than we've thanks.

Speaker 9 They've both beaten the shit out of no ones.

Speaker 19 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 19 Okay.

Speaker 113 Winners of the weekend, Indiana and Texas Tech.

Speaker 81 Put everyone on notice.

Speaker 27 Those two teams.

Speaker 81 Indiana, what they did to Illinois, was

Speaker 87 not, I wouldn't say shocking.

Speaker 81 It was just more, holy shit, Indiana might be better than they were last year.

Speaker 77 And Kurt Signetti,

Speaker 68 he's a maniac.

Speaker 113 He finds, you know, slights anywhere he can.

Speaker 18 I think

Speaker 22 he's still upset about last year and the conversation around Indiana, and he's like, I'm going to punish everyone.

Speaker 9 That's exactly. Yeah, there's going to be one team that's focused on style points, and that's going to be Indiana.
Yeah. They won 63 to 10.
He was not happy at halftime either. No.

Speaker 9 They did the interview. They're like, what do you need to do? He's like, we have to score more points.
We didn't do a good enough job of scoring points.

Speaker 9 But it was like a very even game in terms of how many points were.

Speaker 9 It was like the entire four quarters were just chock full of Indiana beating the dog shit out of Illinois, and yeah, Signet, he is a crazy person, crazy.

Speaker 9 They talk about him coming from like the Nick Sabin coaching tree, and he has a lot of the exact same mannerisms and viewpoints and attitudes that Nick Saban has, where he will yell at somebody if they're if they're up 50 to 10 in the fourth quarter and you drop an interception, he will like grab you and yell at you and cuss you out.

Speaker 9 He's a complete psycho,

Speaker 9 he's a great college football coach. I'm wondering if he's going to to get gobbled up by like a premier, premier name.

Speaker 24 Indiana fans will be mad at you for that.

Speaker 9 Well, guess what? I had to deal with the conversation for two years. And that's what happens.

Speaker 9 That's the reality of college football, that if there's going to be a top-level job that ever opens up soon, and there might be some, like at the very peak, Signetti is going to be one of the first three guys that you call.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 68 Although he does.

Speaker 68 I mean, he's got it rolling right now in Indiana.

Speaker 81 They look really, really good.

Speaker 68 Mendoza is awesome.

Speaker 66 He's, I think, the front runner for Heisman now.

Speaker 13 They have Iowa this weekend and then Oregon in a couple weeks.

Speaker 42 So Texas Tech was the other big winner for the weekend for me.

Speaker 48 They went into Utah and just demolished Utah, which doesn't happen very often.

Speaker 68 This is also Texas Tech.

Speaker 27 They are very open and brazen about the fact that they bought their roster with oil money.

Speaker 119 Yeah.

Speaker 33 I actually like the fact that they're like the three guys that I think bought the roster are just always like they're at the press conferences.

Speaker 9 They're just walking around just like yeah we did this yeah it's like so sick oil was the original crypto yeah it's like if you can if you can camp out on a spot and you can you can make a shitload of money in just a few years you're probably a diehard college football fan if you grow up in texas yeah so what are you gonna do you're gonna reinvest that if they had if the stanford nerds that were making money off crypto cared deeply about football then stanford would be an elite team too Texas Tech was very, very fun.

Speaker 9 And when you looked at this game on paper, just like the reputations of the teams, it's like Utah, they're the team that will just be more physical.

Speaker 47 They will hurt you.

Speaker 9 They will punish you. And then the reputation of Texas Tech is they're a candy-ass team.
They're going to score

Speaker 9 44 points and they're going to give up 52 points. No, they're defensive.
But that's not it.

Speaker 22 Texas Tech's defensive line is nasty.

Speaker 9 That's not it at all. Seven is nasty.

Speaker 55 And then the Michigan-Nebraska game, I actually came away from that being like, one, Bryce Underwood's really fucking good.

Speaker 24 Two, Dylan Rayola is really good.

Speaker 2 Nebraska's defenses would stop them.

Speaker 71 Like, he played a good game.

Speaker 48 I don't understand how we have such a disconnect with everyone in the Dylan Rayola Patrick Mahomes thing.

Speaker 19 Like, Matt Ruhl talked about it.

Speaker 2 Nebraska fans are talking about it.

Speaker 55 Like, why do you guys keep bringing it up?

Speaker 60 We don't keep bringing it up. He keeps doing it.

Speaker 83 He's an awesome quarterback.

Speaker 11 Just let him be an awesome quarterback.

Speaker 60 Someone needs to get in his ear and be like, dude, just stop.

Speaker 9 The funniest part to me was when he throws an interception and he's he's method acting so hard that he does

Speaker 9 Patrick Mahomes. I just threw an interception.
Two hands to the head. It's crazy.

Speaker 73 I don't get it. Yeah.

Speaker 9 And then he's like, I'm just trying to be me. And sometimes people don't like me when I'm being me.
Dude, yes. It's weird.
Yeah.

Speaker 45 It's very weird.

Speaker 120 You're a really good quarterback. So just be a really good quarterback.
That's the part that just is so confusing to me.

Speaker 40 And like Matt Ruhl's saying, oh, like, why are we keep talking about it?

Speaker 80 We keep talking about it because he keeps doing it.

Speaker 39 It's as as cut and dry as possible, is it not?

Speaker 60 Like, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people are like, why do you keep bringing up?

Speaker 55 Why do you keep clowning on him?

Speaker 88 I don't know, dude.

Speaker 68 It's weird at this point.

Speaker 121 Yeah, it is.

Speaker 68 And when people will come back and say, oh, well,

Speaker 102 did you idolize?

Speaker 122 What?

Speaker 4 You don't think it's that weird? No.

Speaker 45 Why?

Speaker 94 Because it's like that's every single person when they're growing up wants to like he's not growing up anymore.

Speaker 1 He's playing in the Big Ten.

Speaker 80 He's not college. He's college.

Speaker 19 He's not growing up.

Speaker 4 What do you say when people make missed free throws in college basketball?

Speaker 84 They're just kids. Okay, boom.

Speaker 31 Yeah. Do you know that I'm doing that as a joke?

Speaker 28 No, because I want to.

Speaker 102 Nope.

Speaker 108 I want to fucking

Speaker 31 fucking shit on them, and I use that as a kid. They're amateurs.

Speaker 19 Hank was proud of himself for that.

Speaker 10 He was, but that's wrong because he doesn't understand.

Speaker 24 I'm doing it as a joke.

Speaker 116 They're just kids.

Speaker 74 They're just kids.

Speaker 111 Never grow up.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 55 So you have no problem with it. No.

Speaker 84 I don't.

Speaker 45 Okay, Hank.

Speaker 9 If they're just kids and this is a natural, normal thing for kids to do, how come every other college quarterback hasn't started doing this with other nfl quarterbacks i'm sure every other quarterback looks at and they study the film they don't you know maybe mimic everything but he does like do they choose a school because it's got the same colors and then wear the same numbers matt rule

Speaker 112 every quarterback is like why do you wear this number because my favorite player growing up i don't think you've watched him play that's a very normal thing he does some he'll do sidearm passes that are like you shouldn't sidearm pass yeah patrick mahomes is the the best quarterback in the nfl hank he does the he does the hand thing Yeah.

Speaker 89 Matt Rule started his press conversation saying, let's not do the whole Mahomes thing.

Speaker 24 Let's talk about the football.

Speaker 115 I agree.

Speaker 12 Let's talk about the football.

Speaker 73 Tell him to stop acting like Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 19 He's a good football player.

Speaker 9 He needs to go to

Speaker 90 some sort of psychiatry.

Speaker 94 But is he a good football player because he acts like Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 85 No, he's a good football player because he's good at throwing the football.

Speaker 9 He needs to go get brainwashed.

Speaker 9 He needs to spend some time and just like sit down in a room with somebody, like a psychiatrist that just gives him some ketamine and is like, hey, you are not Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 46 I just feel like

Speaker 46 watch this video.

Speaker 74 Yeah, I feel like it's such an easy solution if you just stop doing the.

Speaker 1 It's not even, like, he can love Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 22 He can idolize Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 28 It's like the warm-ups and the fingers and the

Speaker 45 how can you say,

Speaker 121 Hank.

Speaker 72 Every. This is.

Speaker 9 His tight end just got engaged.

Speaker 103 Yeah, that's a stretch.

Speaker 9 You think this is a stretch? You think this is selective clip editing?

Speaker 106 All right, Hank's getting a he's stretching.

Speaker 94 That's like walking out of the tunnel,

Speaker 94 doing a fan, let's go, and like jumping up is not like everyone does that.

Speaker 9 Pull up the tunnel walk, him walking into games.

Speaker 9 Max, there's a picture right there.

Speaker 29 He's doing the tunnel. Look at that.

Speaker 73 I wouldn't know the difference.

Speaker 9 I mean, look at the picture on the left, Hank.

Speaker 45 Come on, Hank.

Speaker 47 Come on.

Speaker 60 And again, it's so easy for it to stop.

Speaker 2 Just get a haircut and stop doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 55 And just be a good quarterback because you are.

Speaker 23 But yeah, Bryce Underwood is the real deal.

Speaker 9 Yeah, he's good. He's going to be just fine.

Speaker 94 I'm pretty sure those Oakley glasses are like legitimately Oakley, like Mahomes brand.

Speaker 90 Of course they are.

Speaker 59 And then I had the other thing.

Speaker 94 Mahomes is even wearing those and his.

Speaker 85 The other thing I wanted to talk about was what were you going to say, Max?

Speaker 19 Never mind, never mind.

Speaker 48 There's three programs that are in some deep, deep shit.

Speaker 28 One of them is my team, so I wanted to bring them all three up.

Speaker 13 We can discuss.

Speaker 3 I'll start with Wisconsin.

Speaker 106 We're in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 19 A lot of trouble.

Speaker 103 Like dark, dark times.

Speaker 2 It's so dark that I basically am in like saying things to myself, hey, what's so bad about just remembering the good old days?

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Like that's a bad place to be because I went back and I looked last night.

Speaker 23 I was like,

Speaker 21 so we had 17 straight years from the from the year I was a freshman to 2019 where we won 9.7 games per year.

Speaker 5 We had 10 of the 17 years where we won over 10 games.

Speaker 31 We had a 12-in-one season, a 13-1 season.

Speaker 15 That's pathetic when I'm doing that.

Speaker 2 But it is, I don't know the way out.

Speaker 15 And I think that Wisconsin's at a really weird crossroads where it's like, I know everyone wants to fire fickle, but I think it's deeper than that.

Speaker 53 And you have to, like,

Speaker 21 whoever's in charge, I don't even fucking know, chancellors, presidents,

Speaker 48 commit to being a football school.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 88 Stop fucking around.

Speaker 61 I also need that guy, the guy who created Timu, Colin Huang.

Speaker 40 If you're listening from China,

Speaker 82 hit me up, bro.

Speaker 113 He's $50 billion.

Speaker 87 He got his masters from Wisconsin.

Speaker 19 Does he carry out football?

Speaker 81 I don't know, but I'm going to try to get him to.

Speaker 9 He should.

Speaker 48 Because people keep blaming me for not spending money.

Speaker 62 I don't have the money that you need to.

Speaker 51 I don't have oil money.

Speaker 62 I don't have Larry Ellison money. I'm not even like...

Speaker 84 That's so worlds away.

Speaker 9 You got that Harambe money.

Speaker 19 Colin Huang.

Speaker 79 Yeah, I got the Harambe money.

Speaker 9 So what Wisconsin did is they just, they kind kind of tried to become Texas Tech. They did the Dare Raid offense, right?

Speaker 10 Well,

Speaker 87 no, because we didn't spend millions and millions of dollars on a roster.

Speaker 9 Right, but what I'm saying is like Wisconsin tried to stop being Wisconsin.

Speaker 84 A little bit.

Speaker 69 It's more the roster just like we don't have the talent.

Speaker 89 And our quarterbacks keep getting hurt.

Speaker 72 It's just we're at a crossroads.

Speaker 2 It's dark, and I know it's going to be dark for a while.

Speaker 29 I don't know if they're going to win another game this year.

Speaker 19 We need to figure it out.

Speaker 52 Got to have it come to Jesus. I don't know who to talk to.

Speaker 112 Someone, give me someone to talk to.

Speaker 6 Give me a chancellor to talk to.

Speaker 45 I'm sure that that will go well if I just tell them, hey, you know what?

Speaker 55 We got to fucking spend more money and figure this out.

Speaker 97 We're not going to win another game, probably.

Speaker 19 It's bad. It's bad.
Fuck you, Ink.

Speaker 70 I saw a face.

Speaker 47 It's bad.

Speaker 35 We have the hardest schedule in the country.

Speaker 12 You can't.

Speaker 94 Yeah, Maryland. I know.

Speaker 73 What did I just say?

Speaker 93 We're in the darkest of darks.

Speaker 84 We're in a crossroads.

Speaker 2 We're in a really bad situation.

Speaker 9 If Fickle was, if he was out of a job, there would be lots of teams that would want to hire him, right? Do you think Luke Fickle is not a good head coach or just not a good fit? No, I think he's.

Speaker 2 I don't know what it is.

Speaker 42 I don't think he forgot how to coach.

Speaker 59 Yeah, the hire was a great hire at the time.

Speaker 28 Everyone thought it was a home run hire.

Speaker 56 Like every expert, everyone, it just hasn't gone well.

Speaker 39 So I don't know what the fix is, but it has to be fixed.

Speaker 93 Or we just don't play football anymore.

Speaker 9 Or you go back to being Wisconsin and you run the football.

Speaker 9 You just play the most boring brand of Wisconsin football

Speaker 9 and you win nine games a year.

Speaker 88 Also, I would like to see.

Speaker 94 I need an alpha male coach who should be coaching but isn't coaching to fire the team up.

Speaker 21 John Gruden.

Speaker 82 Okay.

Speaker 24 I also saw Barry Alvarez.

Speaker 23 He did, and I love Barry Alvarez, but he tried to do the you're spoiled thing that Dabbo did.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 68 No, it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 It's been five years that Wisconsin's not been good at football.

Speaker 60 There's kids who are seniors who have not seen a good football product on the field.

Speaker 24 There's no spoiled.

Speaker 37 And why don't you fucking figure out how to get the, instead of having all the students go in single file to the student section so it doesn't get full till the second quarter, figure that the fuck out and let them in.

Speaker 89 And also put the student section in a better spot for the basketball. Start being serious about sports.

Speaker 48 It's a joke.

Speaker 93 It's not spoiled.

Speaker 88 The program has fallen off.

Speaker 113 It is completely bottomed out.

Speaker 68 So to be like, oh, you guys are spoiled, that's just wrong.

Speaker 72 We're not, I think Wisconsin fans are some of the most patient fans, but five years is a long time to be just a shit product in football.

Speaker 9 You're friends with Urban Meyer now, right?

Speaker 79 I am, ish.

Speaker 15 Although I don't know if he knows the difference between me and Brandon because he called Brandon Dan the whole time at dinner.

Speaker 9 Would Urban Meyer be amenable to the Wisconsin job?

Speaker 2 I don't think so.

Speaker 48 I think he's liking his job at Fox.

Speaker 94 Dabo?

Speaker 26 No. So let's talk about Dabo.

Speaker 9 I would not hire Dabo.

Speaker 19 He's in a crisis.

Speaker 9 Dabo is, I think he's reached the point now where he is, he's outwardly hostile towards Clemson fans.

Speaker 88 Well, him saying, maybe we just suck.

Speaker 74 Yeah.

Speaker 80 That's a pretty good sign that things are not going well.

Speaker 9 And the crazy thing is, people now point back to week one and they say that LSU win over Clemson, not that impressive, because now we know that Clemson just sucks ass.

Speaker 9 I think that was the one week where Clemson still had like a little bit of that juice because they've got all the good, they've got good players. They've got good recruits.

Speaker 9 He's got on paper, which should be a good team. Week one, they're going out there thinking, yeah, we're confident.
We have a chance. We're in this.
Then they lose. Then everything falls apart.

Speaker 9 Now it's like Clemson, they're not getting those guys. Those guys aren't going to be as motivated for the rest of the year as

Speaker 9 in week one. Now they're just a bad team and they're, they're a poorly coached team.
And Dabo doesn't know how to handle it. And he is, he is just in his

Speaker 9 feelings. He was crying a little bit.
Dabo was crying a little bit. They did their little lap around the stadium beforehand like a dog before it takes a shit.
It was, it was a bad, It was a bad scene.

Speaker 35 Yeah, it was a bad scene.

Speaker 33 It feels like it's over for Dabo

Speaker 43 just because of the way he, I don't know.

Speaker 19 I mean,

Speaker 48 I don't think they should fire him.

Speaker 35 I also think Dabo probably is overestimated the level of job he would get.

Speaker 68 And I think you'd obviously get a good job, but I don't know if you'd get a premier job.

Speaker 9 If you were Florida, would you hire Dabo Sweeney? I don't think I would.

Speaker 9 I don't think so with the way, like, he, this is the, the, if I was in Wisconsin, I would not hire Dabo Sweeney.

Speaker 2 No, because it's, and it goes to the last team, Oklahoma State.

Speaker 68 It's over for Mike Gundy as well.

Speaker 87 They lost to Tulsa for the first time since like 1950.

Speaker 52 It's a common theme of coaches or programs not getting with the times and not adjusting to the new era of college football and being left in the past.

Speaker 29 And so it's bad.

Speaker 9 And listen, the times, you could make the argument, the times suck. Yeah.
It's hard. It's hard to build a college football program.

Speaker 9 To be a college football coach is probably the most annoying thing ever because you have to worry all the time about which guys that you don't have starting are going to leave in the portal, which guys do you need to get to come to your school to replace guys that will leave.

Speaker 9 It sucks.

Speaker 9 You have to badger all the alumni's and be like, hey, I need some more money because we need this offensive lineman for NIL.

Speaker 9 It's a shitty time to be a college football coach, but guess what? There's a lot of college football coaches that don't mind doing that stuff.

Speaker 82 And they get paid a lot of money. And they figured it out.

Speaker 9 And it paid a shitload of money.

Speaker 55 And also, I'm not going to be that guy who, like, when my team goes, starts being bad, be like, well, it's because college football changed and it used to be better.

Speaker 31 No, no, no.

Speaker 120 Figure it out.

Speaker 17 Get with the times.

Speaker 2 Fucking fix it.

Speaker 40 I don't know. Everyone else is figuring out how to fix it.

Speaker 62 Breaking moves.

Speaker 93 Mike Gundy fired. Whoa.

Speaker 117 Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 So throw this in right after we talked about Mike Gundy.

Speaker 9 He was fired. Okay, he probably had a not very productive meeting with the athletic director.

Speaker 9 I would guess on Sunday or Monday. Give him a piece of his mind.

Speaker 93 So

Speaker 15 day after his I'm a man, I'm 40 anniversary, Mike Gundy fired.

Speaker 9 Does Mike Gundy get a new job?

Speaker 113 I don't know. Maybe.

Speaker 88 Had an all-time run.

Speaker 9 Mike Gundy is going to be on the news. I feel like he's going to do news hits.

Speaker 68 Yeah,

Speaker 68 that could definitely be.

Speaker 9 Like, just get, he's going to get some takes off.

Speaker 2 I'm sad to see him go because he is kind of a fun guy to have around.

Speaker 70 But yeah, it felt like this was...

Speaker 9 It was time.

Speaker 31 It was due to happen with the way that season has been going in the last couple of years.

Speaker 31 So, yeah, Mike Gundy fired 170 and 90 overall record.

Speaker 60 He had that one year, was it two years ago where they almost went to the playoff?

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 77 It kind of saved him for a second.

Speaker 9 He had some really fun teams through the years, too.

Speaker 109 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 All right.

Speaker 63 We lose a legend in the college football game.

Speaker 9 So this is how bad things are for Clemson and also for UNC, for Belichick. By the way, Hank, did you see that video of Belichick and Jordan making out on the sidelines? Yeah, it was fake.

Speaker 9 Jumped into his arms. That was crazy.
But here's how bad things have gotten for him: it's going to be Dabo Swinney against Bill Belichick coaching against each other.

Speaker 9 Before the season started, we were all like, oh, I can't wait to watch that. It's going to be awesome.
They moved it to noon.

Speaker 9 It's the noon game. And Ludacris committed to doing a pregame concert at UNC.
So Ludacris now has to go on at 9:45 in the morning in Chapel Hill to perform.

Speaker 9 That's not Ludacris hours.

Speaker 95 Oof.

Speaker 95 Oof.

Speaker 9 Bad times.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's going to be a tough one.

Speaker 37 I feel like Dabo is going to try to take out a lot of pain on Bill Belichick.

Speaker 6 Because Clemson is still significantly better than UNC.

Speaker 77 Yeah.

Speaker 117 So that might be a hurting.

Speaker 9 But yeah, I feel like Dabo's, he's checked out. Yeah.

Speaker 52 And then this weekend is going to be incredible.

Speaker 42 This weekend is going to be incredible.

Speaker 86 We have

Speaker 38 USC, Illinois at noon.

Speaker 35 We have Ohio State, Washington, which is a sneaky, great game.

Speaker 13 That's going to be a tough game for Ohio State.

Speaker 9 Jed Fish.

Speaker 28 LSU will miss.

Speaker 19 We have Oregon, Penn State, Alabama, Georgia.

Speaker 18 This is the weekend.

Speaker 4 This is the weekend.

Speaker 124 Also,

Speaker 9 shout out to Oklahoma. They keep winning, but they still haven't forced the turnover.

Speaker 56 And also,

Speaker 82 they did cheat.

Speaker 9 They did cheat. They did cheat.
They did cheat. The SEC, they said, hey, hands up.
We missed that one. Sorry, guys.

Speaker 9 They ran the trick play where they sent a guy to the sidelines like the old Johnny Menzel, Kyle Shanahan, and then sent him to the end zone after they snapped the ball.

Speaker 9 I don't know why that's an illegal play. I guess it's hard to officiate.
Yeah. The refs have a tough time keeping track of substitutions.
I don't know. It was illegal.
They screwed that one up.

Speaker 40 Are you happy the SEC formally apologized if you're an Auburn fan or are you more pissed off?

Speaker 50 More pissed. Yeah.

Speaker 13 I was saying, like, it'd be fun.

Speaker 94 Like the NBA last two minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 23 If there's like an Auburn fan that printed that out and like put it on their refrigerator,

Speaker 82 see? The only thing.

Speaker 68 They apologize to me.

Speaker 9 Yeah, the only thing it does for you is you get to make fun of of Oklahoma fans when they bring up that they beat you. Yeah.
Like, yeah, but you guys cheated. The SEC admitted to it.

Speaker 84 Oh, also, we should credit Miami.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Miami is awesome.
Yeah. Miami is awesome.
That's another big story from this weekend. That was an ugly game against Florida.

Speaker 23 That's all Florida does.

Speaker 9 But Miami was

Speaker 9 their offense and defensive lines are really, really good. You had Michael Irvin on the sidelines.
He's now dedicating all of his emotional energy into the Miami Hurricanes because

Speaker 9 the Cowboys stink. Smart.
And Mario Cristobal is an absolute psychopath. Yes.
In the same way as Dan Campbell, maybe not as smart as Dan, but like he's a psychopath. Miami is a legitimately good team.

Speaker 9 And we've seen them play, like beat teams with their offense and Carson Beck. And this time it was just like, we're going to play an ugly game.

Speaker 9 We got dragged down to Florida's level and they tried to beat us with experience, but we can win that type of game. We can win an ugly game that nobody wants to watch in bad conditions.
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 9 So I feel like

Speaker 9 Miami is a team, and if if you look at their schedule,

Speaker 9 Miami is going to be in the national championship consideration. And I like what they said about

Speaker 9 what Chris Ball said about the you being back. He was like, I don't, that's back is a backwards-looking statement.
I'm trying to build something. I'm not entertaining being back.

Speaker 9 We're here for the first time now.

Speaker 19 Their back would be really good.

Speaker 9 Their back is really, really good.

Speaker 59 Yeah, the yeah, no, that was a game.

Speaker 6 It was a 13-7 game in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 38 And Miami just like, that's a sign of maybe Miami, old Miami teams might have wilted or there might have been, you know, a play that screws them up or defensive.

Speaker 57 No, they just went in Poundtown and just like took Florida on a ride for some bully ball drives.

Speaker 9 It was Poundtown.

Speaker 50 And won that game.

Speaker 104 Yeah, they took them to Poundtown.

Speaker 63 But that was kind of a moment where it's like, is this Miami team for real?

Speaker 2 It's 13-7.

Speaker 68 They're better than Florida, but this game has got the weird vibes of a rivalry game.

Speaker 9 And then they took them to Poundtown. I'm excited about Miami, Florida State.
Yeah. That's going to be a great game.

Speaker 19 Great game.

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Speaker 58 Hot seat, Cool Trone.

Speaker 116 My hot seat is Brandall Chambly.

Speaker 96 Oh, what'd he do? Okay.

Speaker 116 Big geek, big golf geek, hater.

Speaker 9 He might be the number one geek in golf, yeah.

Speaker 26 Yeah, he is a big-time hater.

Speaker 9 And that's a stacked field.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 116 Really stacked.

Speaker 94 He was talking about, and he's old. Like, he's an old fart.

Speaker 9 Come on. He is.

Speaker 94 Well, he was talking about Bryson, and he said he's a captain's nightmare to pick a partner because he's selfish. He's an iceberg.

Speaker 94 And he was talking about how he did a press conference instead of talking about the team and how much he likes playing for the team, he brought up his YouTube.

Speaker 94 So it's like he was saying he was self-sucking himself,

Speaker 94 promoting his YouTube. And then this is where I really put him on the hot seat because there's just no way Brandall Shambly is this locked in.

Speaker 94 I don't think this is true, first of all, but he said, I have no doubt that bots are generating a lot lot of those views oh called them out he called them out for bots on his youtube bot farming yeah randall chambly randall chambly is is somehow in the know enough to know about you know youtube views and and that bots are the reason that bryson's which it is objectively like i i love youtube golf it's like bryson's content is probably the most unique and it's very interesting and entertaining like of course people are watching it what about all the kids that come up to him and say i love your content thank you for doing the youtube content bryson yeah those are those bots yeah exactly yeah uh hank i got a question so we're gonna do a rider cup preview with shane bacon uh on friday's show because friday is when the ryder cup starts uh and we'll talk about the ryder cup set the scene everything i got a question for you i saw a tweet uh from glute activator that i happen to agree with

Speaker 60 the hype videos are way too early

Speaker 19 They're dropping

Speaker 19 they're dry.

Speaker 74 They're dropping hype videos on a Monday.

Speaker 59 I need a hype video on Thursday night.

Speaker 88 No, I kind of agree with Ryder Cup week.

Speaker 9 I agree with Glued Activator, but I might even go one step further. Golf is not a hype video sport.
It's a hard hype video sport. It's not a hype video sport.
In golf, you don't want to be hyped.

Speaker 59 But it's too early to get hyped.

Speaker 74 Yeah, but Hank, it's too early to get hyped. It's not that the hype video is.

Speaker 94 Did you watch the video of the firefighter?

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 82 And guess what?

Speaker 2 I'm going to forget about it by Friday.

Speaker 88 Are you not fired up?

Speaker 19 On Monday?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 43 I want to get hyped up after we beat Europe.

Speaker 80 I want to get hyped up right before.

Speaker 118 I want to get hyped up right before.

Speaker 13 By the way, what's your Ryder Cup plan being at Knit Valley on Saturday?

Speaker 66 You're our number one golf expert.

Speaker 94 Yeah, I'm going to watch on Saturday. I'm probably going to have to find a bar and watch college football on the Ryder Cup.
Sunday morning. Sunday, I'll be here.

Speaker 26 You're going to be back in time?

Speaker 94 I land at 8, and I'm just going to come straight to the office. Okay.
Ireland and Ryder Cup. Nice.

Speaker 9 Hank, you're going to Knit Valley. Yep.
To the Big Beav. Big Beav.

Speaker 9 You're a duck, though, right?

Speaker 82 You are a duck.

Speaker 9 You are a duck. You've got ties with Oregon.
Close ties.

Speaker 9 Some of your closest people that you work with

Speaker 9 pretty much work at Oregon.

Speaker 1 Are you going to root for State Penn or you? Yeah,

Speaker 9 and this seems like it's the matchup where it's like, I know your allegiances to this guy.

Speaker 4 We are going to the game.

Speaker 9 If you turn against Penn State,

Speaker 9 if you root for Penn State, you're going to lose. No, no, State Penn.
If you root for State Penn, you're going to lose a friend.

Speaker 94 I disagree. I mean, I think, I think.
Me?

Speaker 73 If I were going to this game, I'd root for Oregon.

Speaker 50 Duck. I'd come in as a duck.

Speaker 19 Quack, quack, quack, quack.

Speaker 102 That's me because we're a rider. We are.

Speaker 103 We are. Let's go.

Speaker 19 Let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 84 We are. We are.
We are.

Speaker 45 Wow. Good question.

Speaker 19 Are you going to bet?

Speaker 101 Yeah, on Penn State.

Speaker 43 Wow, still Penn. Yeah.

Speaker 29 See, you even say it the right way now.

Speaker 94 Or maybe the over. I don't know.
Okay. But yeah, we are whiteout.

Speaker 94 You're going to the game. It's like you got to root for the home team.

Speaker 88 Just root for the over.

Speaker 95 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 96 Okay.

Speaker 94 And then Scotty, Scotty did a press conference talk about Bryce, and he said he's a tremendous competitor. He's a great partner as well.
He's a great guy. He's a good friend.

Speaker 94 He's been great in our team room. He brings a lot of energy, and people love him.
Being an American means a lot to him, and I'm excited to kind of unleash him this week.

Speaker 81 Are you worried at all about the players being paid?

Speaker 14 Has it ruined the love of the game?

Speaker 95 No.

Speaker 20 Okay, same.

Speaker 84 Yeah, agreed. I'm okay with that.

Speaker 73 I've just seen people complain about that.

Speaker 55 I'm like, I thought they did get paid.

Speaker 57 I don't fucking care.

Speaker 19 They should get paid.

Speaker 94 I mean, everyone else is getting paid.

Speaker 88 Also, they're probably getting paid.

Speaker 94 The networks are getting paid.

Speaker 94 Everyone else involved in the Ryder Cup is getting paid.

Speaker 9 We heard a match about that two years ago, right? Yeah. And it's kind of horseshit that that they didn't pay the guys.

Speaker 1 What are they getting paid?

Speaker 116 I don't know, but I mean, Bryson's already said he's donating it.

Speaker 94 Scotty said he's like, it's like everyone's going to just take the money and give it to a better country. If I ever part of something that's generating a fuckload of money, they should get paid.

Speaker 94 And I'm sure 99% of the guys are.

Speaker 74 All right, we're finding out $500,000 each. I'll say it right now:

Speaker 38 if they ever call me my country to compete in the Ryder Cup, I will absolutely donate every single cent of the pay to charity.

Speaker 116 Wow.

Speaker 82 I'll pay them. Yeah.

Speaker 9 How about that?

Speaker 9 So Scotty is donating it, right?

Speaker 94 Scotty and Bryson, I've seen.

Speaker 9 Bryson's probably just reinvesting it into like a server building. No.

Speaker 45 Oh, wait, hold on.

Speaker 9 House all his bots. Hold on.

Speaker 48 It's $500,000 each, $300,000 going to the chosen charity.

Speaker 91 So they're kind of getting, they don't really get credit for this charity.

Speaker 16 Oh.

Speaker 72 They're being forced. Me,

Speaker 2 I would then give the $200,000 as a personal stipend. That would go to charity and probably a match.

Speaker 25 I'd probably do $400,000 to charity, $300,000 also to charity.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I'd double it.

Speaker 55 So So maybe put that on a quote card.

Speaker 20 If I were in the Ryder Cup, I would give $700,000 to charity.

Speaker 94 That's big of you. Thank you.
Appreciate it. You'll be good two years.
You'll be good at golf by then.

Speaker 126 Yep. I am.

Speaker 19 Oh, you're going to hate it.

Speaker 29 You're going to hate it when I just one day show up and beat you.

Speaker 44 Breaking news. Breaking news.
Breaking news. Breaking news.

Speaker 10 Breaking news.

Speaker 51 Oh, we got him.

Speaker 9 Jackson Dart.

Speaker 60 The Dart attack is starting on Sunday versus the Chargers.

Speaker 6 This is to be expected.

Speaker 43 To be expected. Okay.

Speaker 86 Russell Wilson,

Speaker 63 that goal line sequence, that was it.

Speaker 9 It was tough. The throwaway on fourth down.
Yeah. Because we were recording when we did it.

Speaker 9 So when we do that, I have to go back and I have to watch the games again and just get a general appreciation for how ridiculous that goal line sequence was. It was worse than I thought.

Speaker 94 I would love to know how many times someone's gotten intentional grounding from the two-yard line. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 94 That was like unfathomable.

Speaker 103 Beyond bad.

Speaker 9 He came close to getting intentional grounding on fourth down from the two-yard line again. Yeah.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 94 And then my cool throwing is SEC football, this league.

Speaker 9 Yep.

Speaker 94 Landry Kiffen. Yeah.

Speaker 94 Lane Kiffen's daughter

Speaker 94 is apparently in a relationship with Witt Weeks, who's LSU's best linebacker.

Speaker 19 Yep.

Speaker 94 And they posted a picture that was just hard launching. It just said hard launch.
And they're playing this week, LSU Ole Miss.

Speaker 64 Am I wrong in saying this is good for Ole Miss?

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Like, I saw it, and I immediately was like, first of all, it's a hard launch.

Speaker 102 I don't know.

Speaker 94 I feel like you can spin it whichever way you want.

Speaker 9 I disagree.

Speaker 1 I think you are wrong. Yeah, hear me out.

Speaker 24 So it was a hard launch.

Speaker 116 You think Big Cat's wrong? Yes.

Speaker 83 Okay. It was a hard launch for

Speaker 54 the couple on the internet.

Speaker 78 Lane Kevin has known that they've been dating for a while now.

Speaker 83 100%. It's his daughter.

Speaker 103 Right.

Speaker 3 You don't think that he's had a little,

Speaker 30 maybe a few too many soda pops with weeks and just been like, hey, let's get on the whiteboard real quick.

Speaker 9 I don't think Lane drinks anymore.

Speaker 45 Okay, well, whatever.

Speaker 85 They've just been hanging out. Hey, let's get on the whiteboard.

Speaker 112 Show me what you guys like to run. What's your base do you think?

Speaker 9 Do you think they're boys?

Speaker 19 I think they're boys.

Speaker 17 I disagree.

Speaker 9 I think that this is huge for everybody.

Speaker 14 Who do you think it's a bigger distraction for?

Speaker 9 Yeah, so I saw.

Speaker 1 Lane Kiffen was making jokes about it right away.

Speaker 60 He knew they were dating.

Speaker 12 I don't think he cared.

Speaker 9 But I saw last night from Lane Kiffen, a man who logged on and was posting through it and told somebody to take the over

Speaker 9 in the game.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Which is kind of weird for a coach to be doing that.

Speaker 60 Well, it's because he knows their defense because he's had conversations with weeks. I don't know.

Speaker 9 Looking at the mental edge, I feel like LSU, they can just be like, hey, she calls him daddy too.

Speaker 17 No, I think this is, I think Lane Kiffen's got some, got some keys to the game now.

Speaker 94 I feel like

Speaker 94 it's a good spin zone.

Speaker 101 If you work hard enough, you can spin it whichever way you want.

Speaker 35 I mean, Lane Kiffen joking about it almost immediately means that he's known about this relationship for a while.

Speaker 116 It is.

Speaker 85 I think everyone thinks like, oh, shit, Lane Kiffin just got a bomb dropped on him.

Speaker 35 He's definitely known they've been dating for a while.

Speaker 9 It is a Romeo and Juliet situation. Yeah.

Speaker 56 It's great this league.

Speaker 9 Classic SEC. Well, what's crazy? So LSU is the underdog this weekend.
Yeah. I feel like that's better for the underdog.
Whichever side was the underdog, I would say, benefits from this news. Okay.

Speaker 56 Take the over.

Speaker 20 It was

Speaker 78 weeks of one thing the over. Yeah, he said take the over.

Speaker 29 Kiffen household must be in shambles.

Speaker 2 See, that's the thing is, I don't,

Speaker 28 if he didn't know about it, I would understand being like, holy shit, what a boss.

Speaker 42 He definitely knew about it.

Speaker 19 But he could have been like because he had fun with it right away.

Speaker 80 He posted a picture of her.

Speaker 1 I think he probably was like she's still rooting for old men.

Speaker 9 I think he probably did know about it, but she also took maybe the worst time possible to announce it.

Speaker 9 Like she did this strategically.

Speaker 9 It's not a coincidence that she said, okay, it's LSU week. Yeah.
I'm going to announce it. That in any world is a bigger distraction for a dad.

Speaker 6 Maybe Lane Kiven said, hey, let's wait to announce it on LSU week.

Speaker 9 But how would that benefit him? That just gets him assistant.

Speaker 80 He's talking about it, making jokes, not thinking about game plans.

Speaker 60 He's already thinking about game plans. He's already talked to weeks about what they're going to run on defense.

Speaker 9 No, I think if your daughter does this during this week, it feels like it's to jab you.

Speaker 9 I agree.

Speaker 20 I don't think so.

Speaker 86 I think he's having so much fun with it right away that that reeks of coordinated attack.

Speaker 9 It reeks of, I'm actually,

Speaker 19 I don't have a choice.

Speaker 94 Like I wish you didn't do it, but I'm actually laughing.

Speaker 50 I'm not mad.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Please don't print that I got mad.
Yeah. No.
Yeah.

Speaker 98 Yeah.

Speaker 68 See it the other way.

Speaker 9 Okay. Embrace debate.
We'll find out. Hey, that's what makes college football so fun.

Speaker 9 We get to find out. It's great.

Speaker 48 It's great when he starts running, when he starts running action right at Weeks' face.

Speaker 9 I do think that if you're an industrious young student in Baton Rouge, a shirt that said she calls him daddy too with a picture of Wit Weeks would go hard.

Speaker 9 You could make a couple $10,000, mid-five figures on that. Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 19 I would agree.

Speaker 35 You can make some, make some t-shirts, get the t-shirt. The game is an old mess, but make some t-shirts, get it going.

Speaker 25 Yeah, you can still do t-shirts.

Speaker 9 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 24 Okay, your hot seat cool through in PFT?

Speaker 9 My hot seat is me and Hank's relationship.

Speaker 117 Oh,

Speaker 117 because

Speaker 9 we got a great relationship. Hard to do.

Speaker 85 Are you guys going to get out of this?

Speaker 90 We're going to golf our way through it.

Speaker 9 We have a video, Hank and I, from the Ryder Cup that we're going to be putting out. Hank and I went head to head in the Ryder Cup.
Great match. And is that coming out Thursday? Thursday or Friday.

Speaker 9 Thursday or Friday. One of those two days.

Speaker 19 A great match.

Speaker 9 It was teacher against student. Hank's been doing a great job working me on my swing, getting me ready for the Internet Invitational.

Speaker 9 And I was dealing with an excruciating back problem at the time, but I said, put me in there, coach. I want the opportunity to play against my real coach off the field.
And I had fun playing with you.

Speaker 9 And we'll see who won.

Speaker 26 Sounds like fun.

Speaker 94 Yeah, I don't understand the hots.

Speaker 9 Well, it's just us competing against each other at something that we care so deeply about.

Speaker 9 Emotions were high.

Speaker 101 Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 101 I love competing against you.

Speaker 94 I'm excited for our match, even though PFT's secretly been taking lessons and won't admit it.

Speaker 77 Oh, this is awesome. Is that a fair accusation?

Speaker 9 I don't want to tell Hank if it's a fair accusation or not, but it's not.

Speaker 127 Okay.

Speaker 9 I have not taken a single lesson, but I figured something out.

Speaker 117 Oh.

Speaker 117 But Hank.

Speaker 9 Sounds like a lesson. This is actually great.
No, this is actually great for you.

Speaker 14 As someone who watched him swing for two months, Hank is going around the office.

Speaker 94 I've seen him in the last two weeks, and it's like something has drastically changed.

Speaker 46 Drastically.

Speaker 9 Hank's going around the office telling everybody PFT got a lesson, and I didn't get a lesson, and he is so rattled by my new swing that it's awesome for me.

Speaker 46 Also, he's allowed to get a lesson.

Speaker 19 No, he's allowed to show you.

Speaker 103 I know, I know.

Speaker 94 No, it's more he just won't admit it.

Speaker 94 Again, I spent so much time watching him. And if you watch you know, the first couple of Ryder-Cup matches, he struggled, struggled mightily.

Speaker 53 And

Speaker 9 no, I won the first Ryder-Cup match.

Speaker 94 Or the second Ryder, whatever.

Speaker 19 Because the alternate shots didn't play well.

Speaker 94 And you had back issues, and there was just, you know, I knew, like, I was your coach. I knew how far you were hitting your clubs and stuff.

Speaker 94 And then I've seen you in the last two weeks, and it's like 20, 30, 40 yards difference.

Speaker 9 I told you, I figured something out.

Speaker 117 Yeah. Figure something out?

Speaker 94 Which I feel like means lesson, but you won't.

Speaker 9 I did ask for lessons, and I had people that reached out to me about lessons, and I did not take them up on it. I said, I'm a man.

Speaker 9 I don't, listen, I'm not going to let another man tell me how to swing a golf club.

Speaker 96 That's true.

Speaker 9 Kind of sus.

Speaker 9 Are you a cool throne? My cool throne is everyone, all of us.

Speaker 96 Oh.

Speaker 9 Because we're still here. Oh, yeah.
The rapture.

Speaker 85 The rapture.

Speaker 9 The rapture was going to be. It didn't happen.

Speaker 2 Maybe not yet. Day's not over.

Speaker 43 But

Speaker 9 I feel like Tuesday's over in some parts of the world already. That's true.
So it didn't happen on Tuesday.

Speaker 43 If you're listening to this, then we made it.

Speaker 9 It was supposed to happen.

Speaker 9 What was supposed to happen? We're supposed to get the rapture today, which is when Jesus comes down to earth and then takes like a billion people up to heaven.

Speaker 9 Thanos?

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Well, then the rest of us have to stay down here and sort it out. Then we get a seven-year grace.
Thanos. Then we get seven years to figure it out amongst ourselves.
It's like when

Speaker 9 your parents send you to your room and they're like, hey, go in, think about what you've done. And I'm going to come get you and you tell me what you did wrong.
Then you can come out.

Speaker 9 That's what Jesus is going to do during the rapture. And then everyone on earth, we get like a do-over and we get to then be like, hey, yeah, when you come back, I want to get raptured.

Speaker 9 So I'm going to get baptized and believe in you.

Speaker 74 Who decided it was the rapture today?

Speaker 9 One guy on TikTok.

Speaker 85 You got to kill yourself.

Speaker 9 No, that's not how raptures were.

Speaker 34 If you call the end of the world and it doesn't end, you can't be here anymore, buddy.

Speaker 29 You're out.

Speaker 5 I mean, that's a cult thing.

Speaker 1 Like when they did the Heaven's Gate, and they're like, yeah, it's coming down.

Speaker 74 Like, dude, if you try to call your shot, you got to be out.

Speaker 9 At the end of the day, I do, like, you got to take your hat hat off to the Heaven's Gate cult.

Speaker 73 Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, they're about that life.

Speaker 9 Yeah, they are.

Speaker 68 They are swaggy as fuck.

Speaker 11 But I'm just saying, like, you can't call the end of the world and then have it not happen and then still be here.

Speaker 93 That's not fair.

Speaker 9 In theory, yes, but everybody that's ever predicted the end of the world should be out. They'll just spin it.
They'll just be like, should be out.

Speaker 19 We got to wait.

Speaker 9 We got to wait. God was testing me to see if I believed that there would be a rapture.
But turns out I passed that test by telling everyone else.

Speaker 9 So now stand by because he's going to come back to me when it's really time.

Speaker 88 Think about how electric it would be if that was a rule.

Speaker 63 Because like, hey, if someone's going to call it, like, you're putting your life on the line.

Speaker 11 Yeah. You better really mean it.

Speaker 91 You can't just say it.

Speaker 5 Otherwise, people just fucking say it everywhere.

Speaker 96 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 103 Fucking

Speaker 83 2048,

Speaker 73 world's going to end. Yep.

Speaker 93 No.

Speaker 121 All right.

Speaker 91 If it doesn't happen, you got to be out.

Speaker 83 I think that's a hard and fast rule.

Speaker 9 So we did not get raptured. We're still around.
Okay.

Speaker 9 I did like the advice that people were giving on TikTok, though. About what? About the rapture, about how to handle being raptured.

Speaker 9 If it's your first time, they were saying, okay, so don't look down because it's going to be scary as you're floating up.

Speaker 9 You want to keep your eyes in front of you, maybe keep your eyes even pointed upwards. You want to take deep breaths through your nose, out through your mouth.

Speaker 9 They were getting really deep into the advice for you.

Speaker 124 What are you going to say? Counterpoint, the rapture could have happened.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because it says a lot of people. Because

Speaker 15 that would mean we're the assholes.

Speaker 9 What do you mean? Like, the good people get sucked up into the sky and the bad people are left to rock. It's plotted this is the end.
But I feel like you.

Speaker 19 I'm fine with that. Yeah.
Don't you?

Speaker 24 Go to hell in a bucket. Don't you

Speaker 90 got sucked up?

Speaker 9 That means we're the bat.

Speaker 124 We wouldn't know. We've been in here for.

Speaker 81 We don't know anyone good enough to get raptured.

Speaker 9 Zach would have gotten raptured.

Speaker 19 I don't know. He didn't text that girl back for a while.

Speaker 9 I think Zach would go.

Speaker 9 We have been in here for a little bit now.

Speaker 19 The rapture could have happened. Yeah.

Speaker 96 What if we were the last ones around?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I would love to see Zach meeting Jesus.

Speaker 9 Oh, thank you, sir. You're so nice.

Speaker 90 Oh, hello, sir.

Speaker 84 Oh, Oh, sir.

Speaker 9 Would you like some ice cream, sir? Sir, how are you doing?

Speaker 39 All right, my hot seat is

Speaker 84 Auburn basketball.

Speaker 35 Bruce Pearl has named his son Stephen the head coach,

Speaker 54 five-year contract.

Speaker 72 We like Bruce Pearl.

Speaker 34 We like Stephen, but Bruce Pearl did have a receipt pulled on him when Stephen A.

Speaker 13 Smith was speaking about nepotism in sports.

Speaker 23 And Bronnie James, Bruce Pearl, said, preach, Stephen A.

Speaker 68 This is, listen,

Speaker 24 I'm fine with it.

Speaker 54 Just be like, yeah, this is, he's probably not qualified, but I wanted my son to have a job, so I'm going to retire right before the season when no one can transfer.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's kind of a strange time to announce it.

Speaker 9 Some people were speculating that he's going to run for Senate.

Speaker 60 Well, I don't think, it's actually not a strange time.

Speaker 34 I think this is the new move because you basically lock in your roster before, like, if he announced it right after the

Speaker 26 tournament last year,

Speaker 48 he doesn't set up his son to have a successful transition.

Speaker 62 Now he kind of has set him up.

Speaker 9 That's true, but it also is like a last-minute thing for the fan base.

Speaker 115 Yeah, but I think that's

Speaker 2 by design.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but for the team, it's like, I don't know. I feel like that's an announcement that should be made way earlier in the offseason.

Speaker 68 He wanted to set up his son.

Speaker 9 Instead of the day before you get started, he wanted to set up his son.

Speaker 9 Yeah, some people are saying he might run for Senate, which would set up potentially a race between Bruce Pearl and former Tennessee football coach Derek Dooley.

Speaker 9 So two former Tennessee coaches that were there at the exact same time would be running for Senate in Alabama. Bruce, I don't think,

Speaker 9 is indicating that he's going to run yet. Okay.
But he might. He might.
Because Tuberville is on his way out and Bruce Pearl, at least he won.

Speaker 17 I do like Tuber. He's a good coach.

Speaker 2 I do love that in the South,

Speaker 86 they're like, yeah, who should run

Speaker 6 our state?

Speaker 121 Yeah. A coach.

Speaker 9 The reality is,

Speaker 9 if you're running for Senate in Alabama, you're just begging that Nick Saban doesn't throw his hat in the road. Right.

Speaker 14 Yeah, Tommy Tuberville. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 92 Yeah.

Speaker 125 You want a coach.

Speaker 22 You want a coach in charge.

Speaker 78 And then

Speaker 68 my cool throne, it was going to be some.

Speaker 2 Oh, I guess I'll just do this. What?

Speaker 55 Bill Nye got a Hollywood Walk of Fame, and Jalen Brown was there.

Speaker 121 Oh, cool. Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill.

Speaker 10 What?

Speaker 26 It's kind of random.

Speaker 6 He just respects science.

Speaker 94 He loves Bill Nye. Oh, he does?

Speaker 19 Yeah. I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 94 He tweeted a long time, like when he was in college, I really want to meet Bill Nye. That's very funny.
Bill Nye came to one of the Celtics games, and it was like a big look at him.

Speaker 1 He gave a speech. That's really funny.

Speaker 9 That's awesome. That's aura, right there.
Yeah, that is aura.

Speaker 77 That's maximum.

Speaker 9 That's a leader.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I respect Bill Nye just as a human. He would be probably top five for me in terms of if Bill Nye was canceled for being a scumbag.

Speaker 9 That would wreck my childhood. It's him and Weird Al.
Those are the two big ones. Oh, wow.

Speaker 45 Yeah, they are boys.

Speaker 39 That's very funny. All right, Zach.

Speaker 9 Hot seat cool to run. My hot seat this week is Javante Davis.
Did any of you guys see the

Speaker 9 presser with Javante and Jake Paul yesterday?

Speaker 19 Yes, Tank, yeah.

Speaker 9 He is a three-time world champion, but

Speaker 9 size different-wise. The only requirement they have on like the weight

Speaker 9 for the fight is that you can't go over 195 pounds. He's like seven inches shorter, nine inches of reach.
Yeah. I know he's way better of a fighter.

Speaker 9 Is there a chance he just gets starched by someone this much bigger?

Speaker 68 It is going to be a great test of like he's a significantly better boxer, but he is way shorter.

Speaker 9 On tomorrow's part of my take. Yep.
That's what I see when I see that picture.

Speaker 77 There it is.

Speaker 26 By the way uh congrats you signed desmond watson zach that's that's huge for desmond great for us but massive for desmond and the tush push tush push i don't know we we used to get him pretty well against a tush push yeah get him in the push before desmond we had a 400 pound guy to our tush push package yeah vita ve and desmond that's a lot of meat is lane playing big body he said he was gonna play okay mike evans out for three to four weeks That's a bummer.

Speaker 9 Disappointing, but I'm just glad it's not the whole season. Hope he gets well soon.
Yeah. All right, your cool throne?

Speaker 9 My cool throne this week is Call of Duty Enjoyers because the multiplayer for Black Ops 7's trailer did drop.

Speaker 96 Oh.

Speaker 9 And I think it's going to be, we're taking a little bit more of, or they're taking a little bit more of a futuristic approach again, which we haven't seen since Infinite Warfare.

Speaker 9 A little bit of wall running, 30 maps at launch, or 30 weapons at launch, 18 maps. I think it'll be good.

Speaker 121 Okay. All right.
It's going to be a lot of fun.

Speaker 9 I could be just overly optimistic because I don't want it to suck. But for right now, I think it'll be good.

Speaker 47 Okay.

Speaker 24 Good hot seat cool throne.

Speaker 19 All right, let's get to our interviews.

Speaker 5 We've got Greg Olson and then Goose the Band, and then we'll finish up with Pardon Your Takes.

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Speaker 11 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest.

Speaker 68 It is our guy, Greg Olson.

Speaker 77 You can hear him on Sundays.

Speaker 77 Greg, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 40 Thank you for not dressing like an umpire.

Speaker 116 Should we talk about that?

Speaker 130 Let's talk about it. Yeah, because

Speaker 2 Dave was busting your balls on Monday morning on Wake Up Barstool.

Speaker 63 You did look like an umpire.

Speaker 32 I don't know if we would have said anything because we've already said something about your sport coat.

Speaker 52 We've already gone down that path.

Speaker 43 Then everyone was like, oh, Greg Olson hates Dave.

Speaker 17 Do you hate Dave?

Speaker 130 I actually was just texting with Dave 30 minutes ago. And no, I don't hate.
I've known Dave for 20 years.

Speaker 130 We go way back.

Speaker 130 You're allowed to bust your buddy's balls. But the key is you got to give it right back to him, right? Like it can't be a one-sided deal.
Dave and I have known each other for a long time.

Speaker 130 We bust each other's balls a lot over the years.

Speaker 130 Of course, I don't hate him. Yeah.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 32 It was very clear to me the internet was going to run with it.

Speaker 38 And it was like,

Speaker 130 that's okay. We actually was.
Yeah.

Speaker 63 We've known Greg forever.

Speaker 60 And to be honest, like, you were dressed like an umpire.

Speaker 130 Yeah, and I think it was a little, I mean,

Speaker 130 I don't need the barstool

Speaker 130 edit guys making like

Speaker 130 what are those like those memes of me dressed like an umpire. I thought maybe my credibility with the barstool brand maybe would

Speaker 130 we don't need to make it like I'm like the

Speaker 130 butt of the joke. Yeah.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 130 But you know what?

Speaker 88 That that kind of was on you because

Speaker 63 you dressed like an umpire.

Speaker 13 So that was kind of on you.

Speaker 9 Also, some sometimes guys are just sick of each other's shit. Yeah.
And so you got to just bust your,

Speaker 130 you just got to go back and it's all in good fun and it's all in good, it's all it's all in love. And

Speaker 130 I actually was literally texting with Dave before I came on the show 30 minutes ago, joking about how the internet is amazing and the internet is crazy and everyone thinks we hate each other.

Speaker 130 And I'm just going to let it be out there and just let it fester. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 9 Will you, are you going to stop dressing like an umpire moving forward?

Speaker 130 No, I'm not going to really give much more thoughts into my outfits. The hat and the shirt were not supposed to go together.

Speaker 130 I was out of town. I flew for my game.
I was in, I had to fly to New York. I had to do a meeting in the morning.
It was early. I got up before i had to to do dave's show which i'm happy to do

Speaker 130 didn't feel like doing my hair i had gotten dressed for the day and then that was the only hat that i had so i was like i'm not gonna i can wear a hat on this show hence i'm wearing a hat today yep uh it was the only hat i had and i hadn't done my hair and

Speaker 130 it never dawned on me that i looked like an umpire but uh

Speaker 9 you next week you should have a chest protection yeah you should lean into it just go on

Speaker 9 i might go mask yeah yeah that'd be good lean in yeah uh okay go ahead yeah i was like i was gonna wear my sport coat on here today oh yeah that's a bad one that looks like you shot a couch and then yeah had it upholstered onto your chest yeah yeah that's a good one and you tried to shame me and say that your wife picked it out and make me feel bad yeah i know she did she did pick it out and she's she's yet to try your coffee every day well probably because she didn't want anybody at home being like oh my husband's hot i'm gonna make him wear the ugliest thing possible

Speaker 130 that's a good spin my husband is so hot i have to dress him down yes yeah that's exactly what that's why i dress like this.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 130 I'm moving forward with that. I like that.

Speaker 63 I like that one. All right.

Speaker 11 So week three is in the books.

Speaker 62 You have done three games, obviously, so far.

Speaker 2 You've done the

Speaker 2 49ers, Seahawks, Giants, Dallas, Rams, Eagles.

Speaker 32 Out of those six team, who are you most impressed with?

Speaker 22 I assume it's going to be the Eagles, but let's talk about the games you've actually covered because I feel like you get extra insight into those.

Speaker 130 Yeah, I mean, as far as team that I think can make the longest run, the deepest run, I think of the six that I've seen,

Speaker 130 yeah, I think Philly and the Rams. I mean, I think Philly and the Rams, I know the Rams lost, but I thought for most of the game, they controlled it.
They dominated the entire first half.

Speaker 130 The score, we said it over and over. They kept settling for field goals.
They couldn't punch it in. And the game felt so much worse than the score was at halftime.

Speaker 130 Then they come out, they get the quick turnaround on the strip sack, score, and you, oh, my God, are we in for a boat race?

Speaker 130 And then all of a sudden, the Eagles decided to let Jalen Hurts play quarterback and start throwing the ball to A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith and Dallas Goddard.

Speaker 130 And they started going up and down the field. I think that took some pressure off the Philly defense that they settled in.
And

Speaker 130 I think the fast start by the Rams, especially defensively, was kind of wasted because they just couldn't score enough touchdowns. And you're going to continue to see teams do it.

Speaker 130 And, you know, we saw it last night with the Lions game.

Speaker 130 Everyone has to stop thinking kicking the ball is all the days of we're going to play field position, the days of let's just take the points, those have to be over.

Speaker 130 You are going to lose in the NFL nowadays every time you kick the ball, a punt or a kick, or actually a field goal.

Speaker 130 It's a bad play. Unless it is a 50-plus yard field goal on fourth and long, you should not kick field goals that much in a game or you're going to lose.
And we see it time and time again. Yeah.

Speaker 19 Yeah. It's a good point.

Speaker 88 It is a good point.

Speaker 9 And yeah, I think coaches are starting to catch up to that. And that's the way the NFL is going.
And every time Dan Campbell does it, it's for a reason.

Speaker 9 And he's made his name as being an aggressive coach. I think the players like it too.
I think it's just part of

Speaker 9 the culture of that team that he's got, where if you know that your coach believes in you and believes in your defense too, conversely, if you don't get it, I feel like that's just something that helps everybody in the locker room all get on the same page.

Speaker 130 There's no doubt. And when it becomes ingrained in everything that you do, there's no question, there's no half the huddle is saying, why are we doing this? And half the huddle is excited.

Speaker 130 it like you're saying it's it's baked in the other aspect of this that i think needs to get a lot more conversation is everyone right now is talking about analytics and these charts and go for it and they don't but the the real it really boils down to for a lot of head coaches so we'll take dan campbell Dan Campbell can lose that playoff game a couple years ago where they went over on fourth down and he can stand at the podium and he's confident enough and and and stands tall enough and says, you know what?

Speaker 130 It didn't work today. I'll take that as the coach.
We lost the game because I was aggressive on fourth down and we didn't win. Not a lot of coaches like standing there saying, it falls on me.
Right.

Speaker 130 When you get a field goal blocked or you fail, you know, you don't, hey, we kick a lot of field goals. We got to get better.
We have to execute better. The kicker has to be better.

Speaker 130 The long snapper has to be better. There's a lot of guys that have to be better.
When you fail on fourth down, the only guy that gets asked is the head coach, why did you go for it on fourth down?

Speaker 130 Why did you pass up points? Why didn't you punt? Or whatever the question is. It takes a certain type of guy to stand up there when it doesn't work out and say, you know what? That's on me.

Speaker 130 I'm good with it. And if I could do it all over again, I'm going to do it again.

Speaker 130 That's what it takes. Everyone wants to do it, but not everyone wants to answer the questions if it fails.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and that's why I'm okay with it when he does it in the playoffs and it doesn't work and they end up going home for the season. They did it all year long.

Speaker 9 I'm completely, I will never trash Dan Campbell for being too aggressive in a game, even if it's a playoff game, that a field goal might have helped them win in that case, because that's not who he is.

Speaker 9 Hank is not here right now. I think he is boycotting this interview because he took Dave's side in the beef.

Speaker 87 But he and I and Big Cat.

Speaker 130 What was his take?

Speaker 9 I think Hank is just going to take his side in any beef involving Dave.

Speaker 9 I think it's kind of how he operates.

Speaker 9 But

Speaker 9 Hank and me and Big Cat have had a little back and forth in the last couple weeks about

Speaker 9 Tom Brady being in the Raiders' booth after calling the games.

Speaker 9 And we tried to force him to admit that it was weird that you have an NFL owner that's on the headset in the booth that's also doing this, you know, the advanced meetings that you're having, the prep meetings.

Speaker 9 So you are in the business. I'm curious to know what kind of information gets shared as you're going into a game.

Speaker 9 Like, what type of prep do you put in and how much info do do you actually get from teams?

Speaker 130 I'm going to answer your question, but literally, as you were asking that question, I got a text from Big Cat, and I checked my phone, and it was a picture of an umpire.

Speaker 127 Yeah, so

Speaker 5 memes is sending us edits, so then I was like, oh, shit, here's an edit, I'm going to send it to you.

Speaker 56 So, yeah, it's very funny.

Speaker 92 We put it up in the YouTube while you're watching this.

Speaker 130 It's a good thing I got good skin.

Speaker 10 It's a good thing.

Speaker 130 Tell Hank, tell Hank to stop being so sensitive. Me and Dave are

Speaker 131 very, very good, and we're fine.

Speaker 114 Okay.

Speaker 130 All right, so to answer your question, it depends on who you talk to, right? Like, there are some coaches where we know going into the meeting, we only have to talk to them.

Speaker 130 They're going to be very forthright. They're going to be very honest.
They're going to tell us exactly where the matchups are, exactly what the thought processes are.

Speaker 130 Here's how we're going to handle the game. Expect more pass, expect more heavy person, you know, whatever it is.
They're going to tell us.

Speaker 130 And they know over years of doing this now that there's a level of trust that it's sacred and that it doesn't go any further.

Speaker 130 And then obviously obviously it's not going to be shared with anyone outside of the call. And it just helps us do our job, injuries and starting lineups and whatnot.

Speaker 130 There are some teams and some coaches who tell you nothing. And it's not personal.
It's just, it's their style. It's their nature.
And they don't offer up anything outside of very

Speaker 130 coach speaking. It almost is more like a press conference, right? We're going to, we've got to protect the ball.
We've got to do a better job on third down. We got to play hard.

Speaker 130 The other team is so good. This is a huge challenge.
And then you hang up and you say, I could have gotten that from their press conference.

Speaker 130 So you get both ends of the spectrum, and then obviously some degrees of difference in between. But every team, it's up to them.

Speaker 130 So, in regards to Tom, like I've said this now a few times, like I have no problems with it.

Speaker 130 However, a team wants to handle their production meetings with me, with him, the situation is entirely up to them.

Speaker 130 And whatever they see fit that they think protects their information, they have every right to. So, if Tom, you know, if they don't want to tell Tom anything, great.

Speaker 130 If they feel comfortable and they don't think Tom's going to take it and go anywhere with it, which I assume he's not,

Speaker 130 then they'll tell him more than they can. So, like, it really isn't that big of a deal.
There's one or two nuggets from every production meeting on average that really ever make the broadcast.

Speaker 9 I guess being prepared, like, if you were, if you were a TV announcer for the Mexican Football League, while also serving as an owner of our Osos, our beloved Osos,

Speaker 9 do you think that the other coaches would share things with you and be as open with you?

Speaker 130 That's a great question. I feel like we should test it.

Speaker 99 Yeah, we should test it.

Speaker 9 Would you call a game for the Mexican Football League?

Speaker 130 Can I do it in English?

Speaker 9 Habla Español?

Speaker 56 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 130 No habla español.

Speaker 9 Just be like, bueno.

Speaker 50 Puedo er al baño.

Speaker 2 Quarterbacko. And then just never come back.

Speaker 9 Los Osos están bueno. A football.

Speaker 130 I could just say that over and over and over again.

Speaker 84 Yeah, malo.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Interception.
Malo.

Speaker 45 Oh, no.

Speaker 82 Yeah, goal. Yeah, hit him with a goal.

Speaker 130 You've already said more words in Spanish than I know. So you guys, maybe you should do it, and I'll just be like the sidekick.
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 45 Do it.

Speaker 60 Sunday, Ravens, Chiefs.

Speaker 11 Whoever loses that game, should we be concerned?

Speaker 130 Yeah, I mean, now, you know, now we're starting to get into, you know, the first couple weeks of the season, I think everyone jumps to conclusions and everyone jumps to just try to,

Speaker 130 you know, either crown the team who they think is the best and then they let us down or they try to, you know,

Speaker 130 all but, you know, toss a team to the side and they end up getting hot. I think we've done that to the Chiefs multiple years over the, you know, over time.

Speaker 130 And they always seem down the stretch to find their way and show up in the playoffs and win playoff games. No one gives them a chance to.

Speaker 130 And next thing you know, they're in the Super Bowl and win or lose the Super Bowl. So I feel like we've tried to do this to the Chiefs before.

Speaker 130 We all need to learn our lesson to give them the entire season to figure it out because all they really have to do nowadays is make the playoffs.

Speaker 130 And do you really want to play them in the playoffs, Andy Reid and Mahomes, in a one-game winner-take-all? Probably not.

Speaker 130 I still think Baltimore is a really good team. I've now seen them lose a couple games through the first three weeks that I said, how the hell did they lose those games? They played well offensively.

Speaker 130 The turnovers, obviously, have now happened twice. You know, they've lost now two games with Derrick Henry having a big fumble down the stretch.
I watched three quarters of last night's game.

Speaker 130 I still think they're really good. I think defensively they got some issues.
I think defensively, they got to tighten it up a little bit. But I think Lamar and that offense is still explosive.

Speaker 130 They didn't get a ton out of the run game last night with Derrick Henry. And then once he fumbled, I don't know if he even played again.

Speaker 130 I really try not to put indictments on teams after week four or five.

Speaker 130 Like when it's week 12, 14, and we really get into the holidays, then I think we'll really have a good picture of what teams are capable of, who can go far, who's kind of a flash in the pan.

Speaker 130 I think to make those decisions in even four games is just really hard.

Speaker 96 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 9 And the Ravens last year, they kind of changed their identity, especially on defense, and they pulled it together so they're capable.

Speaker 130 They started terribly on defense last year and then became one of the best defenses in football, give or take around the halfway point. So why are they having to do it again?

Speaker 130 There's a million reasons that this happens and coaches have to reinvent themselves, but it's not something we haven't seen at either team.

Speaker 130 We've seen the Chiefs start slow offensively and their defense be really good and lose some close ones, but you're like, all right, they're actually better than maybe we give them credit.

Speaker 130 And then Baltimore, same way. Their offense obviously has been scoring a lot of points.
They just, you know, they have that one turnover.

Speaker 130 And then obviously defensively, they're not nearly as good right now as they were the back half of last year.

Speaker 75 So, a question about the fumbles.

Speaker 123 Do you have, this is a fun Greg Olson trivia question.

Speaker 40 How many fumbles did you have in your career?

Speaker 130 My,

Speaker 130 um, I'm going to answer your question. I got to add them up in my head.
My, but I want to add my own answer to a question you didn't ask me. Okay.

Speaker 130 Um,

Speaker 130 my most embarrassing, worst NFL game of my entire life, ironically, I was playing for the Bears.

Speaker 130 We were playing against the Carolina Panthers, which was odd because I ended up getting traded there. And my

Speaker 130 second year, so this was like 2008, we were in Carolina. I had two passes thrown to me, caught them both, fumbled them both, lost both fumbles, and we lost the game.

Speaker 130 That was probably the low of my lows. Okay.
So thankfully, I got it out of the way early. So I had two fumbles.
I would say in my 14 years, I had

Speaker 9 six.

Speaker 60 You had, so here's the crazy part about your career.

Speaker 48 You had seven fumbles, but

Speaker 62 you are net only down one

Speaker 72 because you either you recovered six.

Speaker 3 That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 130 Well, I off the top of my head.

Speaker 120 There's a year where you didn't fumble.

Speaker 62 In 09, you didn't fumble, but you recovered two.

Speaker 130 Oh, I recovered other people's fumbles.

Speaker 114 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 82 So you're only net down one. Yeah.

Speaker 130 Oh, so I had a great career.

Speaker 114 Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah.

Speaker 130 It's like a plus-minus. I thought you meant I recovered six of my own.

Speaker 73 No, you recovered other people's fumbles.

Speaker 79 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 130 See, when you recover other people's fumbles, it's like your fumbles never happen.

Speaker 62 Yeah, so you only have one fumble in your career.

Speaker 72 So, but the question.

Speaker 130 14 years, a minus one in the turnover battles. Pretty good.

Speaker 43 So my question, though, is like, what do you do if you, I don't think Derrick Henry has like fumblitis, but what happens after you have three games to start the season, three fumbles?

Speaker 93 Like, is it as simple as going old school and just walking around with the football all day?

Speaker 130 Well, if you're someone other than Derrick Henry, your playing time probably goes down pretty significantly. Yep.

Speaker 130 I don't imagine, if I was Derrick Henry's coach, if I was Harbaugh, I would not alter his touches. He's Derrick Henry.
He's been doing this for a long time. He's one of the best backs we've ever seen.

Speaker 130 So like, I'm not going to over correct and just like remove him from the game. I think you're.
I think the defense would say, sure, have your non-fumble running back.

Speaker 130 We don't have to tackle Derrick Henry. So I don't want to do the defense defense any favors by taking carries out of his hand.
I think a lot of the times it becomes mental.

Speaker 130 And what you don't want, especially for a guy like Derrick Henry, is where he's, you see these guys and they're so worried about ball security and their two hands and they're cupping the wrist and they're running so tight that they're not nearly as effective as a runner where the fear of fumbling almost makes them uneffective.

Speaker 130 right because their only hope is all right you can tackle me knock me down i'm not going to try to stiff arm you i'm not going to try to really be be aggressive running through contact because at the end of the play, the only thing I care about for the next couple of weeks is that I don't fumble again.

Speaker 130 You can't have that. You can't have that as your running back.
It doesn't matter who you are. So I think it's business as usual.

Speaker 130 I think it's one of those things if you over focus on it, you can almost make it worse.

Speaker 130 I don't think he needs to be out there with a thousand bungee cords on a ball and doing.

Speaker 130 I think he's got to do his normal ball security drills, his normal

Speaker 130 running back individual drills. I don't think they need to talk about it a lot.
I don't think you want to continue to draw attention. This is something that needs to be flushed from his head.

Speaker 130 And like, it's almost like the yips. Yeah.
Like, get it out of his head. And the more you talk and emphasize it, it almost gets worse.
Right.

Speaker 80 We also were saying that not all fumbles are created equally.

Speaker 115 Like the Aiden Hutchinson made an incredible play where it's like, what do you, I think 99% of running backs fumble in that situation where you get a perfect punch on a ball.

Speaker 9 I think that running scared, though, and running, thinking about fumbling, that would probably be appropriate for that Ed Oliver fumble. Yeah.
Because that was a different situation.

Speaker 9 You have a lead in that circumstance and you're just trying to kill the clock.

Speaker 73 But yeah, you're right.

Speaker 9 I agree with you.

Speaker 9 I feel like if you were to just constantly be worried about fumbling the ball, then you take away everything that made Derrick Henry a great running back to begin with, and then nobody's happy.

Speaker 130 Yeah, and then

Speaker 130 whether you fumble or not, you're not nearly as impactful on the game, and

Speaker 130 then you're not moving the needle. So it's a very fine

Speaker 130 that kind of stuff, like the mental side of failure in sports, whether it's the guy who can't get a hit and he's in a 10-game slump or the guy who can't buy a free throw or he can't make a layup.

Speaker 130 And like we've all been there and

Speaker 130 it's hard to get through the mental side of it. And it's not because of where his hand is on the ball.
And, you know, everyone's going to give him a thousand pointers. The points got to be up.

Speaker 130 It's got to be against your chest. It can't be disconnected.
Cup your wrist in traffic.

Speaker 130 Like there's all these like coaching points, which are all valid and it all has to be emphasized. But really, at the end of the day, he's been doing this his entire life.

Speaker 130 You got to just be Derrick Henry, continue to run people over, run physical.

Speaker 130 And after a game or two where you get 20 carries and you don't put one on the ground, it gets out of your head and you move on.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 9 You brought up the yips. Is it possible for a receiver to have the yips? Because we saw Marvin Harrison Jr.
and then we saw Brian Thomas Jr. All the juniors have the yips right now, it seems like.

Speaker 9 What is that like?

Speaker 130 Yeah, I mean, there's times. And again,

Speaker 130 I always feel for these guys because I always put myself in their shoes. Like, it's so easy, especially as a commentator or just right now shooting the shit with you guys.

Speaker 130 Like, it's so easy to be like, it's not that hard. Catch the ball.
Don't fumble.

Speaker 130 Like, I've been there and there was some games. Thankfully, I didn't have a ton of issues with drops in my career.

Speaker 130 But I'll be honest, there were games where going into the game based on what happened in practice or just a million factors where you went into the game and you're like, I'm not seeing it great.

Speaker 130 Like, I'm just not tracking it great. And I'm not feeling it.
I don't see it. And like, you're like, holy shit, I hope I don't have a bunch of drops.
Like, it is a real mental battle.

Speaker 130 And then there's other games where you're feeling so comfortable. You could throw the ball behind your head and you knew you were going to catch it.
Like, that's real.

Speaker 130 And I think any player, especially if you've played for a long time, goes through those ups and downs of like that internal mental battle of your confidence.

Speaker 130 And catching is the ips, fumbling is the ips.

Speaker 130 Quarterbacks who are gun shy because they've thrown a lot of interceptions, like all of a sudden that ball is just a little bit later and they turn down windows and they don't want to push the ball and it turns into check down Charlie.

Speaker 130 They're taking sacks. Like that's all mental.
And

Speaker 130 it's real. Like that is real.
And I don't give a shit how good you are. There are periods of everybody's career that they go through that uncertainty and they're questioning themselves.

Speaker 130 And you better learn as a young player how to work yourself through it.

Speaker 130 My second year fumbling that game,

Speaker 130 that changed my entire career because I was like, I refuse to let this happen again. Like that shit hurts.
Like that is bad.

Speaker 73 Yeah. What about

Speaker 123 what about the teams start 0-3?

Speaker 73 Like where are they at mentally?

Speaker 34 What are you like, because that's, it kind of goes on the same thing, the yips, a team-wide where it's like, Football is a really hard sport to play.

Speaker 12 And if you're 0-3 and you got to get back up on a Sunday and you're looking around, you're like, even I saw the comments Michael Pittman made after the Colts beat the Titans.

Speaker 6 He said he could see the Titans didn't have that bounce, that juice pregame.

Speaker 2 What happens in the locker room when you have a slow start to a season and how do you correct it?

Speaker 130 Well, that's where you really start testing. your leadership, your locker room, what types of guys you got, what types of leaders you have in the coaching staff.

Speaker 130 Like everyone always has good culture when you're winning and there's great energy and every coach is great and every relationship in the locker room and every coach player relationship.

Speaker 130 Like everything's fine and dandy, right? Winning cures everything.

Speaker 130 All of a sudden now you start getting tested by losing, especially if you're 0-3 now entering your fourth game of the season, you haven't gotten a win.

Speaker 130 And all of a sudden now you start pressing and everything becomes.

Speaker 130 Instead of focusing on, hey, let's have a great Wednesday meeting. Let's really have a good first and second down install.
Let's have a great focused walkthrough.

Speaker 130 Hey, guys, let's have a great weight room session. Like, whatever Wednesday calls for,

Speaker 130 the good teams have the ability to be like, hey, let's just worry about the next. But all the teams that have lost are thinking is, we got to do something to get a win.
How do we get a win?

Speaker 130 We got to do something to get a win. And they're putting the cart so far before the horse where you're not going to get a win if you get a shitty Wednesday blitz period.

Speaker 130 And you're not going to get a win if you guys don't have a good workout and you guys don't attack their rehab and you have guys who miss practice.

Speaker 130 And the 500 things that go on between the end of the day, a game and the following week's game there's 5 million boxes to check and if you don't check them in the right sequence you're not going to find a win because there's no luck right there's no like there's no easy wins in this league so it's so cliche when these coaches and these players and they get up there and they talk about one week at a time and all the shit we all laugh about

Speaker 130 but for the teams that stink and for the teams that are 0-3, it is even more critical that they only focus on like literally what they're doing in the given moment because if they're so consumed with we need to win the coach is going to get fired they're going to bench the quarterback who's going to lose their job once that creeps in and you got player only meetings and guys talking stupid in press conferences like you're done right your season's over you might as well pack your up and go home yeah having a players only meeting after the first week for the dolphins that that to me feels a little bit early like what are you going to accomplish in that yeah we used to have a saying you know we used to joke about it but like

Speaker 130 once you start having players-only meetings, people should start packing their shit up. Yeah.
Because somebody's going to get fired.

Speaker 84 Yeah.

Speaker 19 And

Speaker 68 I also like on the flip side, when you I love the videos of the locker room after a win because it is so hard to win in the NFL.

Speaker 13 How, this is a very dumb question, but I sometimes fantasize about it.

Speaker 55 How sick was it Sunday night after you win a football game?

Speaker 56 Was it so sick? What would you eat for dinner?

Speaker 130 Well, if it was an away game.

Speaker 130 All right, so that's a good question. So it really varied.
Home games when we were young, like home games in Chicago. So my last year in Chicago, we were really good.

Speaker 130 That 2010 year, we went to the NFC Championship.

Speaker 130 So like we were young. We had no kids.
We were downtown. So after a home game, you know, especially, you know, we won a playoff game against Seattle.
We want a Monday night.

Speaker 130 We won either a Monday or a Sunday night game against the Packers.

Speaker 130 After those big home games, right, like you're going out to dinner, you're at Joe's Stone Crab. You walk into Joe's and like people are giving you a round of applause.
Like the whole city,

Speaker 130 you know, just rallies around.

Speaker 130 So a lot of those really cool moments after wins in the locker room and then with your, you know, small group of buddies that you would go out with and your family and whatnot.

Speaker 130 You know, as we got into like having kids, like my highlight after a home win would be like, let's drive through McDonald's and just eat like a 20

Speaker 130 chicken nugget and a hot fry and a Coke and just.

Speaker 130 take a deep breath. So like as at different stages of your life, there's different like pleasures.

Speaker 130 Like, you know, when you're young in Chicago, you wanted to go out to a bar or you wanted to go out to dinner.

Speaker 130 When you're a married dad with three toddlers at home, picking up a McDonald's drive-through and going to sit on the couch and watch the Sunday night game after you just had a touchdown and won, like it doesn't get any better than that.

Speaker 84 Oh, that's the best.

Speaker 9 That does sound great. What was the best time of day to get a win when you were young in Chicago?

Speaker 9 Was it like if you win the early game, then you've got the entire afternoon and evening in front of you? Or was it winning like a Monday night football game?

Speaker 130 Yeah, so I think when you're young, you wanted to win the earlier game because then you could go out, like you could go to dinner, you can go to the bar, you can go hang out Sunday night downtown, knowing that you had meetings Monday morning, but it wasn't going to be anything crazy.

Speaker 130 When Lovey was the coach, when we won, well, he was my only coach, so I guess when I was in Chicago, if you won, it was mandatory victory Monday. So we didn't even have anything official on Monday.

Speaker 130 So if you did go in, you went in on your own, and it was, you know, it was.

Speaker 86 Oh, I'd go in every Monday if I won just to be like, that was awesome.

Speaker 130 Yeah, you go, you go in because, yeah, you go in, but it's just not, it's not mandatory. You have to meet with your coach.
You don't have to do anything official. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Did you ever have a teammate that we were speculating that when the Eagles won this last weekend, that Jalen Hurts was going to be like, hey, nobody here should treat this like a win.

Speaker 9 We're going into workout.

Speaker 130 I think someone's going to tell me that I had tissue on my beard. Oh, I thought you noticed cocaine.

Speaker 43 Yeah, I didn't notice it.

Speaker 130 You should have told me. So I blew my nose before I came on here and I just shaved.
Oh, and I was like, I thought it was light.

Speaker 61 But that's actually good because then it will be tissue gate and no longer you look like an ump.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 130 Well, I just, thanks for telling me, guys. I didn't notice.

Speaker 63 I honestly didn't notice.

Speaker 84 I get lost in your blue eyes.

Speaker 82 What was the question?

Speaker 9 It was about Jalen Hurts. So like him after that game, we were saying that he was probably telling his teammates, no one should treat this like a win.

Speaker 9 Let's all go to work on Monday, even if coach was like going to give him off Monday.

Speaker 9 Did you ever have a teammate that was like, hey, I know he said we don't have to come into work victory Monday, but we're going to do it.

Speaker 9 And then did everybody secretly hate that guy for making everybody go to work?

Speaker 130 Yeah, it's like the super tryhard guy. Yeah.

Speaker 114 Yeah.

Speaker 130 You know, in the locker room after the coach gives the speech about like, hey, great wins, wins are wins. Proud of you guys.
You earned it. Doesn't always have to be perfect.

Speaker 130 We got a lot of work to do. And then he's like, hold on, coach.
It's not about the coaches. We got to be better.
The coaches are doing a great job. They're putting it.

Speaker 130 And everyone's looking around like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 122 Yeah. Come on.

Speaker 130 We won. There's those guys.
Those guys exist.

Speaker 130 I think certain guys on the team can get away with it because they obviously have the credibility. Like when they say, hey, we're going to come in and we're going to watch film on our off day.

Speaker 130 If it's Jalen Hurts,

Speaker 130 if it's the right guy, like guys go, you're right. Like we probably need to come in and get our shit shit tightened up and do it better.

Speaker 130 I had no problems when those guys did it, like the guys that were just like really good and every day they battled their ass off and they were super hard workers.

Speaker 130 Like those guys you'd respect and move on.

Speaker 130 Everyone said when you knew it was the try hard guy and it was the guy that was just doing it because everyone was standing around, that's the guy when everyone would roll their eyes and be like, You just shut, you just go over there and relax.

Speaker 130 We'll take care of this.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah, that was the guy that got like really carried away with hazing. Yeah, it's like, okay, yeah,

Speaker 9 we know this guy's role.

Speaker 130 Yeah, he was snapping towels in the high school locker room at the time.

Speaker 9 I had a question for you about the Bills because we love the Bills, love Josh Allen. They seem to be maybe the best team in the NFL right now.

Speaker 9 Should we be looking at their wide receiver situation as a weakness, or should we be looking at as a strength?

Speaker 9 The fact that they don't have like one guy that you count on to take over a game, they've got a few different guys that they spread it around to.

Speaker 9 Which side of the optimism, pessimism coin should we be looking at?

Speaker 130 I think it's a great question. So

Speaker 130 it's a really good question because I've actually asked that question to coaches.

Speaker 130 See, this is where you guys are so good because you bring it back to production.

Speaker 9 That was a great question by you when you asked that question to the coaches.

Speaker 55 Yeah, great question.

Speaker 130 But my only question was as good as because you asked a better question to team so

Speaker 130 i asked matt lafleur this exact question i said so we had devontae adams when obviously in green bay and when you have a guy like devontae adams you'd be crazy not to find every way humanly possible to get him the ball and obviously he moves on and they have all these young wide receivers they're talented they're young they're unproven but you don't have that like clear cut number one so my that was my exact question to him is i've so i've asked that to lafleur i've asked it to kevin o'connell like how hard is it to get Justin Jefferson the ball but then you look at the other side of the coin with like a bills guy I think every coach would say yes I want Justin Jefferson yes I want Jamar Chase yes I want Devontae Adams and all these marquee guys everyone would take wants one of those guys they're easier it's easier said than done but there is an element especially for a quarterback where you don't have to worry about feeding one mouth.

Speaker 130 You don't have to worry about that one guy not having a target till the third quarter and body language changes and there's passive aggressives.

Speaker 130 And we've seen this play out on sidelines for as long as the NFL has been in existence. That's real.
Like coaches feel it, coordinators feel it, quarterbacks feel it.

Speaker 130 And then you can start pressing. So I've always thought if you don't have like the marquee, marquee, marquee guy, like the dude, dude,

Speaker 130 having a bunch of really good, solid, reliable, any guy at any moment could take the game over, make the big third down, make the big touchdown. I actually think it's easier on everybody.

Speaker 130 I don't want three number five receivers. Like that doesn't help me.

Speaker 130 But if I have like two number twos and like a really good role player, number three, like with Josh Allen as my quarterback is the obvious counterpoint, like if I have that, I'm feeling pretty good.

Speaker 130 Yeah.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 62 I mean, and their offensive line is great.

Speaker 130 So like take us in 2015, our best year that we had in 15, the year we went to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 130 We didn't really have a number one receiver, right?

Speaker 130 Like I was our leading receiver as a tight end, but like for Cam and for our offense, every game that we came in, like there was a game where Teddy Ginn would go bananas.

Speaker 130 And then there were games, you know, we beat Seattle only because Jericho Cotri makes like a sick third and short grab to keep the drive in the two minute going.

Speaker 130 And Philly Brown would pop off in the NFC championship and have a 75-yard touchdown. And then I would have a big game.

Speaker 130 And then the running, like, you never really had to say, if we don't throw him the ball, we're going to stink and he's going to lose his shit. Like, we never had any of that.

Speaker 130 Like, I think for a lot of quarterbacks, it's easier to play that way depending on the personalities in the room. Yeah.

Speaker 9 And it seems like the Bills, they've got good wide receivers. And they're often.

Speaker 9 I'm not saying that they don't have good wide receivers. They do, but they don't have like the Stefan Diggs that they used to have.

Speaker 9 I feel like he was that prime example of a guy that if you don't get him the ball, he might mentally check out a little bit.

Speaker 130 Yeah, and there's a lot of them, it's a very common personality, and I don't mean it as a negative. Like, these guys, these top-tier receivers, they are top-tier receivers for a reason.

Speaker 130 Their mentality is, I'm the best dude on the field, you got to throw me the ball, get me involved, and that's all part of the deal.

Speaker 130 Like, we all understood that, and we were happy that they were in our huddle. Yeah, um, like that's the reality.

Speaker 130 So if you can have just a deep, good, solid, but still talented core, but you don't have the elite Justin Jefferson type guy, we've seen it time and time again.

Speaker 130 You can still be one of the best offenses in football and then you throw in the best player in football and Josh Allen is the one that has the ball in his hand on every play, spinning around.

Speaker 130 It's more than good enough to win with. And obviously the Bills have won a bazillion games.

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 130 What's the one team we're not talking enough about three weeks into the season so who i don't know tell me who you guys are talking a lot about tell me who like

Speaker 72 chargers it feels like the chargers uh you could do good or bad chargers uh obviously very good uh

Speaker 130 are we talking enough about the broncos are they actually in trouble uh something like that i don't know i mean chargers was the first one that popped in my mind i just didn't know if they have spent a lot of time i feel like now people talk more about the chargers not because of their record obviously they're good but like herber's playing out of his mind, and Harbaugh

Speaker 130 brings a lot more attention and a lot more credibility and just gets a lot more eyeballs and attention.

Speaker 130 So they were, they're like my first instinct when people say, All right, especially in the AFC, where it's like Buffalo, Baltimore, you know, all the Kansas, the Chiefs, like all the usual suspects.

Speaker 130 But like this year does feel like the year that the Chargers enter, like, okay, are we now adding another top-tier team to the AFC that it's no longer Buffalo, Kansas City, and

Speaker 130 Baltimore, Buffalo, and Kansas City as like the clear three-headed monster of the AFC.

Speaker 130 Again, it's three weeks, but I feel like this is the year that the Chargers now enter that conversation.

Speaker 91 I agree with that. What about the Seahawks?

Speaker 22 You called the Seahawks game week one.

Speaker 24 Are the Seahawks good?

Speaker 2 We're going to watch them on Thursday night football.

Speaker 91 I think their defense is really good.

Speaker 69 I don't know.

Speaker 130 I don't fully know their offense yet because even that game against the Saints, like they didn't even need Sam Darnold was good, but it wasn't like he was in game pressure situations it was such an avalanche that they did on the saints yeah and and again i saw him in that week one against the 49ers i'll tell you a team that i have a lot of respect for is the 49ers yeah the fact that they're three and oh now do i think

Speaker 130 listen mccaffrey being healthy he's mccaffrey he's sick you know they think they're gonna get purdy back they'll get iuk back at some point but like how many of these injuries can they weather yeah right now they lose bosa they've already been out with kittle and and and purdy for the last couple weeks hopefully kittle's back here soon.

Speaker 130 So, if they can continue to find ways to win, they'll get back these guys with the exception of Bosa. I think the fact that they're 3-0

Speaker 130 is pretty remarkable.

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah, Mac Jones is doing a pretty good job.

Speaker 130 I mean, it's pretty impressive that they've been able to keep that thing afloat.

Speaker 130 Going into the season, they were banged up, and then they lose in week one, they lose Kittle, and then Purdy and Kittle don't play since. And now, obviously, Bosa.

Speaker 130 So, I think they're pretty impressive to ask about now. They I saw saw them play Seattle and

Speaker 130 they ended up pulling that game out. There were times in that game where I was like, Seattle's for real.
Like this defense is talented. They're good at all three levels.

Speaker 130 They might not have like a superstar superstar.

Speaker 130 Leonard Williams is probably a superstar on the defensive line, but they're just like really good at all three levels.

Speaker 130 The Seahawks offensively that day, they were just okay.

Speaker 130 I think they've played better in the last two weeks since I saw them last. I like Sam.

Speaker 130 I think he's a good fit with a Kubiak system that he's bringing in. It's kind of very similar to what he did in Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 130 Is anybody a better quarterback coach than Kevin O'Connell?

Speaker 69 It's hard to, I mean, like, maybe

Speaker 50 McVay, yeah.

Speaker 130 I mean, again, I'm not like McVay, sick, Shanahan. I mean, there's a million good coaches, but yeah, what he has done with veteran quarterbacks

Speaker 130 his last three in a row,

Speaker 130 he got Kirk Cousins paid a bazillion dollars off of an injury. Obviously, what he did last year with Sam.
And now, granted, it's a small sample size with Carson White, but like.

Speaker 48 Can he do it with Desmond Ritter?

Speaker 62 That's a big thing.

Speaker 2 They signed him. I think he's going to try to go for the moonshot and be like, watch this, guys.

Speaker 130 Now he's just showing off. Yeah.

Speaker 84 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 It's like a foster home for dogs, for older dogs.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 9 And I will find this quarterback his forever home. Yeah.

Speaker 19 He's getting guys paid.

Speaker 2 Greg, this has been awesome. I got one last question for you.
It's a rowback question.

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Speaker 11 What game are you on Sunday?

Speaker 43 Orioles, Yankees, White Sox, Nationals?

Speaker 23 What game are you doing Sunday?

Speaker 130 I'm actually in Ireland.

Speaker 96 Oh.

Speaker 130 At 9.30 Eastern Central Cricket?

Speaker 130 8.30 Central doing the Minnesota Vikings and the Pittsburgh Steelers from Dublin, Ireland.

Speaker 84 Oh, boy.

Speaker 79 Body clock issues.

Speaker 9 Yeah, what's your travel schedule? I know we make a big deal of that.

Speaker 19 Are you flying out earlier in the week or flying out late?

Speaker 130 Flying out Thursday. I'm going to try to get on local time.
So I'm flying out Thursday. I fly from Charlotte, gonna connect through Boston, through Boston, and then go direct Boston.

Speaker 130 So I get in like Friday morning at 5 a.m. Dublin, like local Dublin time.

Speaker 130 I have no idea like how time zones work. I'm horrible at it.

Speaker 130 They might be like sit. I hate to say this.
Every time I say six or seven, my kids look at me funny. I have no idea how many hours ahead it is.

Speaker 130 But I land 5 a.m. local time.
I'm going to try to power through the day, get on local time. And

Speaker 127 I'm excited now. I've never been there.

Speaker 130 Have you guys ever been to Ireland? I have.

Speaker 114 It's incredible.

Speaker 130 What do I got to do? What should I do? Drink a Guinness.

Speaker 9 Drink a lot of beer.

Speaker 23 The Guinness is better in Ireland.

Speaker 130 Can I tell you guys something that is probably going to be bigger than Sport Coat Gate,

Speaker 130 Umpire Gate, and all my other colors. Tissue gate.

Speaker 84 Tissue gate. Tissue.
Yeah.

Speaker 130 That's just, I don't know if that's a gate. That's just bad friends not telling me.

Speaker 115 Again, you have incredible blue eyes.

Speaker 123 I don't know what you want me to do. I'm staring at them.

Speaker 106 Okay.

Speaker 45 Thank you. I'll take that.

Speaker 130 And this is probably not going to go over. I've never drank a Guinness in my life.

Speaker 99 Okay. So you got to have it.

Speaker 50 You got to have it. Got to have it.

Speaker 9 It's good. It's like a beer milk.
It's a lot of people.

Speaker 130 He's telling me that I need to have one because it's so much better than American Guinness. And I keep just saying, like, I don't even know what American Guinness tastes like.

Speaker 130 So I feel like I got to have

Speaker 130 it.

Speaker 131 Here's my question.

Speaker 130 Should I have an American Guinness before I go? Yes, you should.

Speaker 9 You should go to the store.

Speaker 130 Or should I let my first ever Guinness be an original?

Speaker 9 No, you should go into like a shitty bar. And then if they have Guinness, be like, I'll have one Guinness, please.
That way you get a baseline for Guinness. And then you go over to Ireland.

Speaker 9 And then you can come back and be like, oh, it's so much better over Ireland. Do that.
You don't even know. Do that.

Speaker 130 Yeah. That's fair.
That's good advice.

Speaker 9 You'll have a great time over there.

Speaker 9 You should actually wear like, you should go full Irish dress in the booth, put on the scalli cap. Yep, maybe like a nice wool vest over a plaid undershirt.
That'd be sick. Yeah, really played up.

Speaker 9 That'd be sick.

Speaker 115 You'd look good. I don't hate it.

Speaker 59 By the way, we should mention

Speaker 130 what I get made fun of by

Speaker 130 the bars.

Speaker 127 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 82 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 130 Which is pretty much the only reason to do it.

Speaker 131 Yeah, right.

Speaker 74 Let us let us have something to talk about.

Speaker 17 By the way, you're wearing the hat right now.

Speaker 59 You think it's your podcast?

Speaker 80 I went on it.

Speaker 23 It was so much fun. Everyone should go listen to it.

Speaker 23 Greg interviews different people talking about being a dad, a mom, kids playing sports.

Speaker 2 It was really fun.

Speaker 25 I enjoyed the hell out of it.

Speaker 73 And I had like, I got bonus points.

Speaker 33 People were like, my wife was like, oh, that was a good interview.

Speaker 29 I was like, thanks. Thank you for listening.
Awesome.

Speaker 130 I can't thank you enough for coming on, dude. Obviously, your audience and your personality and everyone loves you.
And it was a huge, it was a huge boost for us.

Speaker 130 So as I texted you and as I've said to you a thousand times, I owe you and I appreciate you coming on, dude. It was a huge.

Speaker 91 You could pay me back.

Speaker 118 You want to pay me back?

Speaker 118 Yeah, what do I got to do? Scally cap.

Speaker 13 Sunday morning.

Speaker 130 Scally?

Speaker 130 Yeah.

Speaker 9 How seriously do you take

Speaker 130 a radio?

Speaker 127 Yeah, just be a peaky blinder, huh?

Speaker 84 Oh, just think about it.

Speaker 130 Now you got my brain moving. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Just think about it.

Speaker 130 Like, do I get into characters? Okay.

Speaker 1 Do with an Irish accent.

Speaker 9 What you could do is you could also wear a kilt and nobody would know. It'd be like

Speaker 9 underneath the.

Speaker 130 Is it kilt? Scottish or Irish? Scottish.

Speaker 9 They do in Ireland too, though. Yeah.

Speaker 50 It's all the same thing.

Speaker 9 can do, you can do that in Ireland. Yeah,

Speaker 9 got it, they've got regalia, bagpipes, play some bagpipes, yeah, that's Irish.

Speaker 9 Or just do the do the job drunk, you can be drunk on the air in Ireland. Yeah, I think it's managed.

Speaker 130 Can I have a Guinness?

Speaker 28 Um, yes, yeah, yeah, you should.

Speaker 130 Yes, yes, those are that's a you're allowed in overseas. The rules don't apply, right?

Speaker 127 Yeah, exactly, it's acceptable, exactly.

Speaker 80 Um, also, congrats on the you being back.

Speaker 130 I was waiting, thank you. You guys are really good.

Speaker 130 Congrats to me as well, Yeah.

Speaker 130 Weird schedule, though, for them. They go bye-week, Florida State, bye week.

Speaker 127 Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 73 Rest the boys up. Great for you.

Speaker 130 I don't know, man. I always worry like when a team's rolling, having too much, like, I'm good with a bye week before Florida State.

Speaker 130 It just makes me nervous that they're going to have to go bye week and then get back rolling against Florida State. All right, fine.

Speaker 130 But then they got to go like bye week again. And then I think they play like five ACC games in a row

Speaker 130 to follow that second bye week. So, I mean, they're awesome.
Mario Cristobal, I've known since I was a kid. That's my guy.
Love him. Text with him all the time.
I'm like super happy for him.

Speaker 130 I just hope that we just make it to the college football playoffs. I'm dying to go to a college football playoff game, and I've been waiting for Miami to make it.

Speaker 82 I think you will.

Speaker 9 I bet on the U to win the national championship.

Speaker 9 I think that they can.

Speaker 9 Oh, I think so too.

Speaker 9 I might be wrong, but I feel like if there's one coach that's going to be able to handle bye week game bye it's probably mario cristobal yeah he's not he's not going to let them like take a break he's going to be in their face he's going to remind them he's the good guy to to steward that yeah i couldn't agree more yeah they're they're not going to be resting on their laurels very long yeah uh all right greg you're the best uh we love having you on we'll do it again later in the season good luck in ireland and uh let us know how that guinness goes I can't wait.

Speaker 130 I'll have a full report back. I'll talk to you guys when I get back.
Go ahead.

Speaker 118 Thanks, Greg.

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Speaker 59 Okay, we now welcome on very, very, very, very special guests.

Speaker 25 It is the guys from Goose, the band.

Speaker 14 We got them all here.

Speaker 123 We got Rick, Peter, in studio.

Speaker 125 We got Trevor and Cotter in the booth.

Speaker 125 Oh, did you want to say something? You You click it.

Speaker 128 Have you guys just getting ready? Yeah, have you guys?

Speaker 17 Have you guys ever done a podcast?

Speaker 19 All four of you?

Speaker 10 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 44 Yeah, you have? I think so.

Speaker 103 We don't do a lot of them, but for sure.

Speaker 113 Yeah, because I was going to say, the flow, I don't think we've ever interviewed four people all at once.

Speaker 109 Four guys at once?

Speaker 9 Yeah, we've never done four guys at once.

Speaker 50 I don't know if we can handle it.

Speaker 136 One time.

Speaker 132 Hope you guys stretched.

Speaker 58 So, what's up, guys?

Speaker 120 Good to see you.

Speaker 115 You're in Chicago.

Speaker 93 You're on tour.

Speaker 102 How's the tour going?

Speaker 134 Let's start with the easy question.

Speaker 19 Good. Good.
All right.

Speaker 114 That was a good answer.

Speaker 10 Good answer. Good answer.

Speaker 85 Like the family feud.

Speaker 9 How much longer do you guys have on the road?

Speaker 99 Two and a half weeks. Oh, that's not bad.

Speaker 50 Not bad. Oh, bad.

Speaker 9 Is there a show that has been like the standout show? Like music from a musical point of view, has there been one that's like, we are just now starting to like get it together. This sounds awesome.

Speaker 9 We're at our peak right now. Like on this tour? On this tour, yeah.

Speaker 132 I feel like there's been like one and a half shows on this tour so far. Yeah.

Speaker 96 Oh, pretty much.

Speaker 9 Do you guys ever walk out of a show and like one of you is like, that was fucking awesome. And then another guy's like, what are you talking about? Like, I didn't feel it the same way.

Speaker 9 It happened before.

Speaker 50 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Do you talk about it?

Speaker 123 Because I read a story once that Trey, like, they made a rule

Speaker 107 for Phish that they don't talk about the show right after the show.

Speaker 65 And they just kind of like go in their own moment because they don't want to, if someone had a great show and someone didn't, they don't want to ruin that feeling.

Speaker 14 Do you guys have something similar?

Speaker 6 Or when you get off the stage, are you like, oh, we thought that was great or this needs work?

Speaker 65 Do you analyze it right away?

Speaker 132 There's no rules, you know, around it. I think if the impetus is there to talk about it, then we do.

Speaker 95 Yeah.

Speaker 132 Or if we'll just go and play Super Smash Bros. Yeah,

Speaker 69 that works too. Yeah.
How long does it take you guys to like come down from a show?

Speaker 65 I would imagine you don't sleep right away.

Speaker 103 No, it takes a bit.

Speaker 132 A couple hours.

Speaker 10 Yeah, a couple of hours. Yeah.

Speaker 9 What's the day-to-day like for you guys on a day where there's a show?

Speaker 8 Well, it's it's pretty chill. You know, you kind of have, you wake up, hopefully sleep in nicely, get some good sleep, and then just kind of have a few hours of the day and just do what you want.

Speaker 132 We don't have a cream team, I'll tell you that.

Speaker 98 Yeah, I wish we had that.

Speaker 74 Well, no, you're lactose intolerant, and I was, I apologize to you, but then I have a coconut cream team.

Speaker 132 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 60 I was like, Peter was like, I can't have ice cream.

Speaker 65 And then I was like, I'm sorry about what I'm about to say, but I don't believe in anything you say with lactose intolerance.

Speaker 90 Why don't you prove Big Cat wrong? I love that.

Speaker 50 You gotta smell it to believe it.

Speaker 51 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 So when you say sleep in, like, how late are we talking about? I don't know.

Speaker 8 If you're lucky, you got to noon. Yeah.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 98 I woke up at 12:30 today.

Speaker 99 There was a lot of, you know, I was up for a while earlier.

Speaker 95 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 107 So you guys have a new album, Chain Your Dragon, that was released, what, like three weeks ago?

Speaker 108 Awesome album.

Speaker 74 I guess my question is, how are you guys able to make really good albums as a jam band?

Speaker 6 Because that does,

Speaker 43 it's not like you know, you can't do it, but you know, the Grateful Dead, they're not known for their albums.

Speaker 65 Fish isn't known for their albums. You guys are able to make really awesome albums and then also really awesome shows.

Speaker 43 What, what is that? How are you doing it?

Speaker 110 Well, thank you. It's kind of a loaded question.

Speaker 82 But yeah, no, I mean that.

Speaker 65 Like, I can't tell you how many times I've, I haven't, I don't just put on like Working Man's Dead or something. Like, I put on a Grateful Dead show.

Speaker 26 And for you guys, I do both.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, not trying to compare, but like, I, I think think we just generally like making albums going to the studio. So it's just fun.
And, you know, we get to do that process.

Speaker 8 It's like a kind of a blessing, you know? Yeah. Because we have to play a lot of shows, and then it's nice when you actually take the time to work on the songs.

Speaker 8 And that's, you know, it's like the shows kind of just are always happening. But when we get that time to go to the studio, it's really special.
Yeah.

Speaker 107 How long did this album take you guys to make?

Speaker 111 We banged that one out pretty quick, actually.

Speaker 132 That was kind of part of the intention of it.

Speaker 132 This is, you know, compared to other projects we've done, it was kind of like, all right, this stuff wants to be a band in the room, kind of just banging it out.

Speaker 132 So for all intents and purposes, we knocked it out in like March of this year.

Speaker 133 Oh, wow. Yeah.

Speaker 9 So it is interesting when you guys are songwriting and you're thinking about writing something for the studio, do you also think about how that's going to translate into how you perform it live and the space that you're going to leave for yourselves to go on like the long improvisational runs inside of a song that might not have those in the studio?

Speaker 132 It used to be more of an afterthought.

Speaker 132 You know, the recording things in that way was kind of like an opportunity to leave that mentality behind and explore different aspects and approaches to things that we can't do live.

Speaker 132 But oddly enough, now

Speaker 132 maybe it's kind of where we are now.

Speaker 132 I'm not sure what it is, but I'm finding myself thinking about that a lot more when we go to track something and just like, it's just more present of thinking about how it's going to happen live.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 9 That's cool. What about you guys in the booth? How do you guys booth think about that?

Speaker 96 yeah yeah chime in booth the booth concurs

Speaker 139 yeah it's it's cool to like approach the record versions of songs in a way that's cool for the record and the live versions in a way that's cool for the live show yeah and like not we don't have to be a jam band in the studio we can just be a band and maybe do some things differently than we would live yeah and then live we're we're ripping the fucking crunchy jams that might be the answer to it right there because it is like like i said it's uh when you guys release an album, I mean, I've listened to Chain Your Dragon start to finish a few times, and I don't do that for other jam bands.

Speaker 65 It's no knock on them, but it just, it doesn't translate as well studio to live show.

Speaker 136 Yeah, and there's been times we've like, you know, gone to record songs that we've been playing live forever, and we'll go into the studio and kind of revamp them and look at them in a different way.

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 126 And that's always cool to do.

Speaker 9 Do you guys have any songs that when you recorded them, you kind of fell away from them and you're like, yeah, not my favorite. But then as you start to play them live, they almost get a second life.

Speaker 9 And now you really enjoy performing the songs live that you don't necessarily look back on and say, that's a great studio track?

Speaker 136 I don't think so. I feel like maybe there's some fans that maybe feel that way, but I feel, yeah, generally not exactly.

Speaker 132 Like, there's this trend of like, sometimes we put out a new single or new song or something and I don't want to play it. Okay.
Kind of like, you know,

Speaker 111 like, play a new record? No, fuck that.

Speaker 47 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 132 And then, and then eventually you come around and it's like, all right, yeah, let's do that.

Speaker 74 How does the set list come together every night?

Speaker 134 Do you guys, are you guys setting up, like, before you go out there, you're like, this is what we want to do tonight.

Speaker 6 We want to change it up this way.

Speaker 65 Because that is one of the best parts about a jam band, what you guys do is that every night's different, which probably is a little cumbersome just that, where you're like, we played that last night.

Speaker 138 We can't play it tonight.

Speaker 25 But how do you guys work, figure out what the show is going to be?

Speaker 46 Yeah. Various aspects of the equation.

Speaker 44 Like, how does it start?

Speaker 43 Do you say, Rick, do you like, hey, we're going to play this tonight?

Speaker 132 Well, it's this kind of starts with the stats, I would say, you know, on some level, like doing the

Speaker 8 stats

Speaker 10 of what you've played.

Speaker 8 Yeah, what we played where, when the last time we played, it was, stuff like that. Put together a list.
That's nice.

Speaker 8 And then we kind of go off of that list and, you know, create an order and kind of, you know, hone from there.

Speaker 90 What stats are you looking at?

Speaker 9 Like, if you see a song you haven't played in a while, then you're like, we have to play this one tonight?

Speaker 90 Most of it's like regional stuff.

Speaker 126 Like, you know, what we played last time in that city.

Speaker 99 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 19 oh, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 9 Give them a show that they truly haven't seen before, try to shake it up, yeah.

Speaker 65 And then, do you like stack some shows? Are there some nights where you're like, Yeah, we're just gonna do this, and we're and people are gonna go nuts for this?

Speaker 93 Like, you like, no, you just know, like, hey, we're gonna play

Speaker 115 it, yeah, we need, yeah, we need to throw it down, yeah, we're gonna fight, like, night's gonna be the night, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 132 That's pretty cool, but yeah, also, you know, you never know what night's gonna be the night in reality, because, like, you can you can stack a set list and go out there, and just it's not happening.

Speaker 132 Right.

Speaker 132 On the night when it's really the night, you know, like you, you could, it could be the worst, it could be all your worst shit, and it's going to still gonna go hard.

Speaker 134 Okay, so off that question, I've always wondered this because what you guys do is very, very hard.

Speaker 125 And Jam Bands like going out every night playing a different set list.

Speaker 1 On a given tour, let's say there's 20 stops on a tour.

Speaker 33 How many of those 20 are you like, holy shit, that was like 10 out of 10 we were in the zone?

Speaker 132 It ranges from tour tour to tour, for sure. Yeah, it's, you know, I think there's, there's like

Speaker 132 some tours, you know, thinking about it in like the grander thing, you know, perspective is kind of interesting. You know, some tours, you're just like deep more in the pocket than others, you know?

Speaker 132 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 90 But can you guys feel when you hit the zone, like on stage, you're like, oh, this is how quickly into a show are you like, yep, this is going to be one of those nights?

Speaker 132 Yeah, sometimes it's right out of the gate.

Speaker 132 Sometimes you're like out of the gate, at least personally, speaking, I can only speak for myself but like you're you know you get in there and it's like oh yeah we're good hose is active here and then

Speaker 132 you know by the end of first set or into the second set it's gone like you know you lose it or sometimes it's the other way around starts off rough and you find it second set whatever you know it's there's no it's it's all of it it's got to be an incredible feeling when you do find it i would imagine and the i mean the crowd like being going to a bunch of you know fish and and dead concerts in my life like when you do feel like they are locked in it's like there's nothing better better.

Speaker 103 It's, I would imagine that you have that

Speaker 99 feels definitely feels good for sure.

Speaker 109 It's like

Speaker 139 the crowd energy plays a big role, too, especially in the jam band scene. Yeah, it's like

Speaker 139 kind of an intangible thing, but sometimes I feel like if the crowd's bringing the energy right off the bat, it kind of fires us up and we're all in it together. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Have you guys ever compared peaking? Like, does your peaking feel different from your peaking?

Speaker 50 And the best is when we all peak at the same time.

Speaker 99 Yeah, would you rather,

Speaker 9 but isn't that the ideal situation? It's like we all peaked during the second set, you know, like eight songs in. We all shared that moment together.
Isn't that nice? Yeah.

Speaker 95 Yeah.

Speaker 95 That's the goal. It definitely is.

Speaker 95 Yeah.

Speaker 10 It definitely varies a lot.

Speaker 132 I think everyone's perspective, you know, is so dependent on like how much ice cream you had that day. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 123 Wait, so talking about the crowds, when you guys started out, I would like, imagine, you know, you're playing to smaller crowds.

Speaker 20 That has to be difficult.

Speaker 138 Was there a moment along the way where where it like started clicking and the crowds started

Speaker 110 knowing the songs, or the crowds started being more reactive?

Speaker 65 And you're like, okay, this is actually going to work.

Speaker 136 This is definitely at the King's Rook in Erie, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 26 Yeah,

Speaker 10 that's where it all happened.

Speaker 132 We just, yeah, we played a lot of really bad shows.

Speaker 69 But so, was there a moment, though, where it like kind of flipped?

Speaker 97 Where

Speaker 132 when whatever year it was, you're like oh shit yeah there was like a moment in 2018 when it was yeah we we we drove out we had like a tour in early 2018 um and we it was out to colorado and back basically and and on the way to colorado and on the way back from colorado we played in covington kentucky and um we really like you know this it's kind of like the first taste of the fire we got this kid this one kid like saw we were on the on the schedule for this club the octave in covington kentucky and uh

Speaker 132 checked out our album and dug it and passed it around to his, he had this like group of friends. They called themselves Flavor Town.
Okay. And they were just rowdy, like, you know,

Speaker 132 it's basically Cincinnati, Ohio. They're just like rowdy, you know, group of friends.
They're great, great people.

Speaker 8 Loved music. Yep.

Speaker 132 And passed the record around. So they like learned the songs.
We went and played this show at this club and thought it was going to be a shit show, just like all of

Speaker 132 the gigs we did at that time. And

Speaker 132 this crew was only maybe 10, 15 of them, but they like knew some of the songs they were singing along. They were just throwing down, bringing a ton of energy.
And we're like, oh my God, this is great.

Speaker 132 And then, so we went back like two or three weeks later after the Colorado run, and you know, I guess word spread or something.

Speaker 132 And that was kind of like the first, I don't know, a couple hundred people there, maybe.

Speaker 128 Yeah, a lot more people came out.

Speaker 8 And then we, we went back like three months later and did a two-night run that was just totally packed.

Speaker 10 That's awesome.

Speaker 9 Shout out to Kellington, Kentucky. Yeah, man.

Speaker 90 That's original music.

Speaker 10 That's kind of where the fire started.

Speaker 8 First on board.

Speaker 9 Were you guys in the van, living the van life at that time? Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Was that what was the first vehicle that you guys took on tour? Do you remember it? I mean, like a 4D 350.

Speaker 108 Yeah.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Van life, I kind of miss van life. We used to have

Speaker 99 two vans.

Speaker 84 We were like, guys, our vans. Hell yeah.

Speaker 132 We miss. We would love to do like van life again.
Yeah.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 132 Period of time.

Speaker 9 It's fun. You bond a little bit.
You go through the shared

Speaker 9 the bad experiences actually end up being some of the most fun experiences that you have out on the road. Come up with a lot of stupid ideas that are

Speaker 14 just the hours sitting together and like coming up with dumb shit yeah shared experiences yeah we've i like we're not you know uh accomplished music musicians like you guys but the podcast like we used to travels like just four of us in a shitty uh van and now we have like an rv and a whole staff that goes with us and it definitely changes it a little bit definitely yeah Trevor got a CV radio installed in the van at one point.

Speaker 8 Oh, hell yes. And we put out a one-hour compilation of CV radio moments that we recorded on the road.

Speaker 127 That's a little radical.

Speaker 8 We called it Nightshade.

Speaker 127 Yeah, talking to truckers and shit.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 90 Did you learn the lingo?

Speaker 19 What was your handle?

Speaker 96 It was Nightshade.

Speaker 19 Nightshade.

Speaker 103 It was just really requesting a lot of radio checks.

Speaker 132 It's like Nightshade requesting a radio check.

Speaker 136 I think the antenna was kind of fucked up, so we didn't really, you know. We got everything.
We got a couple bites.

Speaker 99 DJ quack, quack.

Speaker 127 DJ quack, quack, quack.

Speaker 128 That was coming like kind of near Chicago, I think.

Speaker 19 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 99 We're out there.

Speaker 128 We know you. I love us.

Speaker 111 I have some of Whatever that guy was having.

Speaker 9 Is there a venue or a city that you guys really want to play at that you haven't played yet?

Speaker 22 Sphere, I told you you guys got

Speaker 51 sphere would be something cool.

Speaker 10 Close enough sphere.

Speaker 142 I don't know.

Speaker 132 I just like playing outside in like a field, you know?

Speaker 105 Yeah. You know, we were just at the gorge.

Speaker 126 Oh, Washington, and that was, that's definitely my new favorite venue.

Speaker 85 Do you like outdoor concerts more than indoor?

Speaker 132 I like arenas too. I mean, you know, good theater.

Speaker 137 They're all cool.

Speaker 132 They all have their different challenges and and you know aspects of why they're dope yeah i mean a hockey arena is pretty like a like a you know kind of run-down hockey arena yeah

Speaker 9 yeah that's that is awesome what do you guys this might be a tough question but uh jam band fans there's a lot of gatekeeping have you guys do you guys consciously think about like there's a lot of well goose isn't fish and fish isn't dead and like you know oh they want to be fish and like do you guys do you did not even pay attention to that i think it's the lamest thing ever but it does happen i mean it's like the same as like sports fans.

Speaker 139 Yeah. They get really passionate about their team and they're like, the rest of these teams suck.
Right. But it's like, you know, at the end of the day, they just love the sport.

Speaker 139 So some people are cool about it because they just love music. And some people are like, my team's the best and the other ones suck balls.

Speaker 24 But it's like, but all the teams are really good.

Speaker 120 Like, that's the part.

Speaker 65 Like, I always laughed when like, like a fish fan would be like, oh, I wouldn't ever listen to the dead.

Speaker 38 And it's like, what?

Speaker 19 Why?

Speaker 43 Like, Trey loved the dead. Yeah.
You guys, I assume, loved the fish.

Speaker 107 So it's like all these things link to each other.

Speaker 43 And it's cool that it keeps going.

Speaker 134 And there's like this line that you can chart.

Speaker 139 It's silly, but I feel like it's just, it shows how passionate the fans become, especially because there's like stats, like people have these special moments with jam bands where they're like, I got my song

Speaker 139 after going on this crazy journey in my van across the country. And so it's become such a personal thing.
Like they, they wear the colors of their favorite band. Yeah.

Speaker 139 So it's just because they're more passionate than your average music fan, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I think if you have people that are like that, it is a sign that the genre as a whole is doing pretty well. Yeah.
Yeah. If you get that fired up about it.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 90 So what would be,

Speaker 9 if you're not a fan of that genre in general, what would be the gateway drug for people to get into goose?

Speaker 9 If there's somebody out there that's listening that hasn't listened to your music yet, just like they're a fan of pop music, what would be that gateway drug for you guys?

Speaker 132 That's a good question. That's probably you guys.

Speaker 19 I was going to recall that

Speaker 142 it does.

Speaker 74 I can answer it because I, so I obviously knew about you guys for a long time, but it didn't.

Speaker 134 I always think with jam bands, it like you can't force it.

Speaker 43 It either clicks or it doesn't.

Speaker 6 And like, so dead clicked for me when I was 13 years old.

Speaker 33 Fish was a little bit later.

Speaker 2 And then you guys, like, I would listen to some stuff.

Speaker 65 I remember the first one I listened to was you guys doing

Speaker 65 The Way It Is with Bruce Hornsby. Awesome.

Speaker 143 Hell yeah.

Speaker 143 awesome version and then like probably four or five months ago it finally clicked with you guys and it was it was uh arcadia with arcadia hunger sight with tray and then it was hot tea and that was like and i was like oh fuck i get it i get it now like i get how awesome these guys are so i think that's kind of how it works with jambits maybe i'm not wrong but it's like you hear one song live and you're just like yep now it all makes sense and then it just you just dive into everything i would i would guess it's it's different for everyone you know it could be like a you know different songs for any person.

Speaker 132 It's just, you never know when those moments hit you. They come to a show and someone walks out and be like, that sucked.
You know, nothing spoke to me. I'm just like, all right.

Speaker 132 And then, you know, someone, the first half sucks, and then something happens. We play some song and for whatever reason, that moment, they're just like, oh.
And then, you know, you get a bug and

Speaker 10 that moment. Yeah.

Speaker 132 And then you get curious and dig deeper and are more open

Speaker 132 at that point.

Speaker 107 Do you guys have that song for Fish or Dead that it was like, oh, that's it?

Speaker 139 I feel like I, when I first started started listening to fish when i was like 14 i was like this sucks yeah and then i my buddy brought me to a show and i was like holy shit this experience it was at fenway my first fish show and i had been there to see the socks a bunch as a kid and going there and seeing that scene i was like this is a wild time all these people are crazy selling drugs and sandwiches and stuff and it just flawless yeah it like the i don't know like the adventure and the the like freak scene of it all just really appealed to me and then I immediately started liking their songs more just because I had a blast at the show you know yeah yeah for sure do you guys have one that you like it was like oh yeah that that clicks now it wasn't it wasn't one thing it was like

Speaker 132 it was friends older brothers that were yeah talking about it and it was like okay check that out and I got a live one and spun that on repeat and kind of you know I feel like things that have been the most impactful musically speaking for me are things that need to like decode over time Yeah.

Speaker 132 Like that, it took a minute for that to seep in, but it wasn't like, I didn't dislike it out of the gate, but it was kind of like, whoa,

Speaker 132 this is a whole new world. There's a lot going on here.
And it took a minute. And there were definitely moments when there were like these

Speaker 132 clicking moments of

Speaker 132 understanding the scope of what was going on there in various ways. But it was also DVDs.

Speaker 132 I got a bunch of DVDs

Speaker 126 at that time.

Speaker 132 Bittersweet Motel.

Speaker 103 For sure.

Speaker 132 And then the It Festival. I was there.

Speaker 132 Admittedly,

Speaker 132 I just love that era. Yeah.

Speaker 132 And I was like a little getting close to the rails, but

Speaker 132 I love the way they were playing.

Speaker 138 It is like the jam bands are a little intimidating to get into it the beginning just because it's so deep and there's so many shows and we and like it's almost like trying to figure out a way to get into like an inside joke and you're just like how do i figure this all out a new language yeah right you like need a guide right a shaman that's takes you along the way.

Speaker 99 Right.

Speaker 99 I mean, that's like such a valid thing.

Speaker 132 I mean, talking about the dead, I think, like

Speaker 132 going over a friend's house and pulling some bongs and then him being like this and playing it and be like, whoa, you know, and having those moments, that's the stuff that speaks to you. Yeah.

Speaker 141 The most.

Speaker 50 The beauty of it,

Speaker 65 whenever anyone asks me, like, what's your favorite dead song? I'm like, dude, it literally like changes every month because I'll hear a song from a show from 40 years ago and be like, whoa, okay.

Speaker 65 I didn't hear them ever do it this way. And now, like, I'll listen to that.

Speaker 65 And so, that's the cool part where it's like, I don't even know what my favorite song is week to week because it changes because it's like an ocean that you can just keep exploring.

Speaker 128 So, very much that's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 9 When you guys play a show, how quickly do you try to get that show mixed and put up so that people can listen to it at home?

Speaker 128 Almost like 30 minutes after.

Speaker 119 That fast?

Speaker 8 Ideally. So,

Speaker 9 you finish playing the show, and then who mixes it afterwards?

Speaker 8 Well, it's being mixed while we play. Right.
So, we've got like a live stream going on for pretty much every show we do,

Speaker 8 and that's going on nugs.net. And it's like you can watch the video, and then somebody's mixing the audio in real time.
And then, right after the show, it's just like cut up the audio and upload it.

Speaker 8 Yeah. That's kind of the flow.
Yeah, that's pretty cool for your fans.

Speaker 9 When did you guys start doing that as opposed to like recording and then putting them up later?

Speaker 8 It took some time.

Speaker 132 In 2018, we were kind of more selective about it because no one knew who we were or gave a shit about what we were doing. So we were kind of like trying to just, you know, put out a bunch of stuff and

Speaker 132 build a catalog on the internet and build like a presence and kind of our own little world there. But we were definitely more selective about it in the beginning.

Speaker 132 And then at a certain point, it just became everything. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Once we had like, you know, consistent recordings, I think that was kind of like a big. turning point.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 For 2018, we were mostly just like, oh, do you guys have this type of mix board we can record on?

Speaker 124 Okay, great.

Speaker 19 We will.

Speaker 99 Otherwise, too bad, you know?

Speaker 131 When did we start rolling with our own?

Speaker 8 It was like 2019, right at the beginning of the year. Yeah, January.

Speaker 132 We like, yeah, we built our own rack system where we were running our own monitors and be able to record, you know, everything at that point

Speaker 132 consistently.

Speaker 132 That was a huge turning point for us. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Do you guys have a moment where it became a thing that you knew that you could be successful at, like make a living at? This is my career. I'm going to be in this band and we're going to do well.

Speaker 132 You kind of like, when you're going for it, you have to be naive enough to

Speaker 132 think that it could work, that it can happen, you know.

Speaker 132 But in retrospect, you don't realize how naive you are going for it, you know, just being like, yeah, this is obviously this is

Speaker 95 what we're doing, you know?

Speaker 132 Yeah. We're going to go for it.
And then, and then, you know, like the long, you know, you go and

Speaker 132 we were fortunate enough for it to work and to, you know, really so grateful for everything that it's, I mean, it's, it's on real honestly um but

Speaker 132 yeah just like looking back is like wow we didn't we had no idea yeah we were getting ourselves into or like what how how much work it would really would take you know i think you know that was like early 20s i was like yeah get a band together play like a couple festival sets we'll be good like that's it it's over you know it's like no

Speaker 137 many

Speaker 9 years of grind yeah until you're like 15 years later like all right people talk about a big break but there's not there's usually not a big break there's usually like a slow steady build yeah that you're committed to and then doing it the hard way that's how you make sure that you have a long career if there is a band that has or an artist that has a big break it's like very easy for that person to fall off yeah because they don't have that groundwork that they've already built up to

Speaker 43 make one hit sustainable yeah and you got jam bands by nature like you're not going to have a one-hit wonder that played on you know the radio so it's going to be a slower grind have you guys thought about uh like how far away you are from taking like a five-year hiatus and then coming back and being

Speaker 50 ever Probably pretty far.

Speaker 142 Yeah, okay, good, good, good.

Speaker 82 Because everyone's got to do it, right?

Speaker 1 Like, you guys got to break up for a few years and you come back, and everyone's like, holy shit, they're better than ever.

Speaker 69 They found their love for it again.

Speaker 84 All right, so we're far away from that moment.

Speaker 143 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 96 Okay, good.

Speaker 132 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 10 Okay, all right.

Speaker 10 I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 93 It's going to happen.

Speaker 19 Whoever wants to come on the podcast when that happens to tell your side of why you broke up.

Speaker 44 Oh, God.

Speaker 10 You want to be the first

Speaker 139 one behind the music. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 115 Yeah, but then again, remember, you're going to come back better than ever.

Speaker 127 Yeah, the comeback for us.

Speaker 118 Yeah, I mean, Fish is like that.

Speaker 84 They took a long time off where everyone's like, is this over forever?

Speaker 50 And then now they're better than ever.

Speaker 110 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Let's have the conversation. What's your favorite?

Speaker 139 No, no, let's stop.

Speaker 10 No, they are awesome again, but yeah, they're amazing.

Speaker 139 I've seen them a ton. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Nothing will ever beat that Fenway show, though.

Speaker 139 I mean, the Fenway show was one of their first shows back for 3.0 in 09. So I've only seen the latest rendition of Fish.

Speaker 139 I didn't see them in the 90s.

Speaker 134 Do you think they were better in the 90s?

Speaker 139 I love the 90s sounds.

Speaker 143 A little more visceral, crazy.

Speaker 139 They're more put together now.

Speaker 139 Someone said they're more like storytellers now, and they're less like, they don't have that aggressive, youthful energy. Yeah.

Speaker 49 But it's all great.

Speaker 134 What was it like when you guys had Trey play with you?

Speaker 65 Like that was, I mean, that's, he's done it a couple times, right?

Speaker 107 But the, the 20, was it 2022 in New York? Yeah.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 94 Like the tour.

Speaker 8 I mean, Radio City, especially, was really special. And that just kind of came out of nowhere.

Speaker 134 And like, that had to have been, I mean, it's not like he's knighting you guys, but that does feel like a big moment for the band, I would assume.

Speaker 143 It's wild.

Speaker 19 Definitely. Yeah.
Yeah. Super special.

Speaker 132 He's such like a kind, gracious, humble guy that when you hang out with him and you don't, it's easy to forget how surreal that is.

Speaker 132 And then there's moments where you're like, wait, this is, how is this happening?

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 9 How did that come together?

Speaker 137 I mean, I don't even know.

Speaker 8 The Radio City thing?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I honestly can't remember. I feel like he reached out.

Speaker 105 Do you remember?

Speaker 140 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 140 yeah, we talked about it.

Speaker 136 We talked about a time with management. Yeah.

Speaker 105 Trying to make something happen.

Speaker 140 We knew he was a fan and listening to music and watching the streams.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 140 It wasn't like planned months in their bands.

Speaker 65 It was kind of like spur of the moment.

Speaker 26 He's going to be

Speaker 113 a time. Like, let's do it.

Speaker 65 None of that was on a microphone, but it was a cool story.

Speaker 18 No, basically the answer was that it was he, you guys knew he was a fan, and it was kind of spur of the moment.

Speaker 65 Like,

Speaker 47 here we go.

Speaker 99 He was local.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Did you know he was going to stick around on that tour?

Speaker 9 Oh,

Speaker 9 we eventually planned the tour

Speaker 94 for later that year.

Speaker 9 He was just like, you mind if I just keep sitting in? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 111 No, that night.

Speaker 132 Yeah, that night it was kind of like we had planned, talked about two songs or something. Yeah.

Speaker 111 Like, you want to just stay?

Speaker 99 Yeah, you want to just stay?

Speaker 142 He was like,

Speaker 10 sure.

Speaker 141 I was like, like all right great yeah he's gonna stay that's funny

Speaker 132 it was amazing that's incredible and then yeah the tour was i mean

Speaker 132 i think his they did a tour with santana earlier early in their career and um you know santana kind of took them took him under his wing and took them under his wing and um that was a that was a really special experience for him i think and um he i think he wanted to pay that forward which is you know, says a lot about who he is.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 132 And, you know, also revisiting a lot of old, like, run-down hockey arenas, which was really sick.

Speaker 126 Yeah, that should be a lot of fun for him.

Speaker 9 Yeah, was it a little intimidating? Be like, we're playing with Trey, just a little.

Speaker 132 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Did they make you better? What?

Speaker 9 Did they make you better? Knowing that, like, hey, Trey's here. I gotta, I gotta bring it.

Speaker 132 Yeah, I mean, it's, I don't know, I, I, it's like one of those things I try not to, in the moment, try not to think about it too much because then they'll just get deeper down the like,

Speaker 132 you know, imposter syndrome of it all, whatever.

Speaker 132 But it's, it was, it's just like you just gotta, you just gotta go show up and you know do it yeah did you ever catch yourself like asking Trey like was that good like did you like that

Speaker 142 was that song good for you too

Speaker 10 please tell me yeah that was good that was good

Speaker 132 he imparted a lot of a lot of he had a lot of cool things to to impart on us throughout that tour for sure what uh so what live show would you tell people to listen to if they were trying to go?

Speaker 65 I'm sure you guys all have different answers, but let's give the audience a live show they can pull up.

Speaker 65 Because that is also fun of like part of being a fan of a Jambin is like everyone has their favorite show, everyone has their favorite moment.

Speaker 65 So, what would you guys say your personal is so that you can tell people to go listen to it?

Speaker 47 Of ours, yeah.

Speaker 8 I mean, I would tell people to go watch the video on YouTube of our show at MSG that we just played in June.

Speaker 132 Okay,

Speaker 103 all right, that checks out. I agree with that.

Speaker 65 You guys can't all answer that.

Speaker 108 You got to give four different answers.

Speaker 139 The one that always sticks out to me is Philly last year, The Man. Okay.
I mean, that was my first tour with the band, and I had seen Fish at that venue.

Speaker 139 I think it was the first venue we played where I had seen Fish there. And I feel like,

Speaker 139 like, first set, I was just a little nervous. Second set, we came out.
And we were ripping. I think we played two songs in the second set.

Speaker 19 Really?

Speaker 142 And I like the long jams.

Speaker 96 It's like three.

Speaker 9 What's the longest song you guys have ever played?

Speaker 9 I think it's like 40, something 40-something minutes.

Speaker 9 That's a really fucking long song.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 123 All right. So, yeah, that was 628, 2024.

Speaker 110 You can go find it. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 117 628.

Speaker 107 And then.

Speaker 136 And 628, 2025.

Speaker 105 Wow. Oh.

Speaker 117 Interesting.

Speaker 111 The garden. Oh.

Speaker 9 So there's something about that date.

Speaker 9 Something about that date.

Speaker 10 Make sure you see these things.

Speaker 142 Grab your tickets for next year.

Speaker 84 610 This is 628.

Speaker 143 628.

Speaker 2 When you guys get off the road,

Speaker 14 how in touch with each other are you?

Speaker 65 Are you guys living close to each other? Do you take some time off?

Speaker 6 Because that's always an interesting part of the band.

Speaker 2 You're together so intense.

Speaker 42 And then when you decompress, are you guys hanging out or are you just like, we need a break?

Speaker 132 We're not super local. Peter's in Brooklyn.
Trev and I are in Connecticut. Cotter's in Burlington.
Okay. So, but, I mean, we're together a lot.
We're doing stuff a lot. Yeah.
I think

Speaker 132 there's not a lot of downtime. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 When it comes to a song that you guys start to cover,

Speaker 9 who typically brings that to the table? Like, hey, I think we should do this song. Is that anybody?

Speaker 9 I feel like it's usually Rick.

Speaker 111 That's it can be anyone.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but it could be anybody. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 So has there been a song that's been suggested where it's like, hey, we should try to work on this one. And you guys are like, I have no idea what we're going to do with that song.

Speaker 9 And it really came together, and it's like one that you're very proud of now?

Speaker 132 Um,

Speaker 132 there's a lot of, I mean, usually when you do a cover, it's because you like it, yeah, right?

Speaker 132 For one reason or another, there's like there's different ways into things, I think, we find there's different kind of categories or veins, you could say, of, of, of covers we do, um, but a lot of it's just kind of you know, random, like we, we ended the show, we've we've done it before, the what's up for non-blondes, yeah.

Speaker 132 Um, we ended the show with it last night with the Mount Joy guys, and you know, the day prior, like we, like I said, we'd done it before, but the day prior, we were walking through the airport and it was on in the airport, and was like, oh, yeah, that could, that would, that would be a nice way to end it, right?

Speaker 9 It might be the best sing-along song ever, too.

Speaker 132 It's, yeah, it's like stuff like that, you know, it was at like a like a club once, and, you know, Kylie Minogue came on. It was like, la, la, yeah.
I was like, oh my God, this song is hot.

Speaker 114 Get you out of my.

Speaker 9 It sounds a little like Herd It Through the Grapevine a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 117 Get you out of there.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 132 So it's just, you know, moments like the same kind of thing I was talking about before with the, with the like listen, you know, being shown dead songs with your buddy or whatever.

Speaker 132 It's it's personal experience and having like your own emotional connection to certain things and then finding a way into it and

Speaker 132 a way that you can make it your own and and and put your own voice on it, you know?

Speaker 9 Yeah, when you're listening to new music, do you do you find yourself listening to bands that are similar to you, or do you find yourself branching out and exploring something else?

Speaker 132 Oh, I mean, that's different for all of us,

Speaker 132 I'd assume.

Speaker 132 You know,

Speaker 132 I've listened to, for a long time, I've been into just like modern,

Speaker 132 a lot more modern music. When I was younger, I'd listened to a lot of older stuff, you know, old jazz, and obviously the Fish and Dead thing was huge.
And

Speaker 132 like a lot of old jazz and Otis Redding and Nina Simone and, you know, Wes Montgomery, just a ton of different like older things.

Speaker 132 And then at a certain point, started listening to, you know, it started with Fleet Foxes.

Speaker 132 But I just kind of realizing there's this really trend-supportive

Speaker 132 modern songwriting, you know, production stuff going on that I've that I got kind of taken with and I've just been super into that.

Speaker 9 What about the guys in the booth?

Speaker 126 You know, I kind of grew up listening to metal, which is kind of a different, you know, vein and all this. But yeah, I try to listen to like all sorts of stuff, like metal, electronic music.

Speaker 126 I've been really digging this band Men I Trust currently.

Speaker 10 They're super dope.

Speaker 105 But yeah, in terms of like stuff that's similar to us, for sure, and then stuff all over the map as well.

Speaker 139 I was a big Zappa guy and still am.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 96 And

Speaker 139 I think that kind of fueled my love for fish, too. Yeah.
But

Speaker 139 now I'm way more open. Like as I've gotten older, I've become less of a snob

Speaker 139 and more just trying to find good music, less judgmental. Usually it goes the other way around.

Speaker 96 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 139 Like, I feel like I found these things where I feel like I earned being a fan. Like Sam,

Speaker 94 like I had to put the time in to

Speaker 139 really understand what was going on because it's insane. And now I just like, I'm down with whatever.
And I think it's dumb to judge music

Speaker 139 other than whether you think it's good or bad. And that's your opinion on it and whatever.
Yeah. But like, there's a lot of great music in all kinds of genres.

Speaker 139 I mean, I'm like obsessed with Julian Lodge lately, who's like a modern jazz guy, which is pretty rare. You know, he's a young, like really expressive jazz player.

Speaker 139 And this dude Blake Mills, I've been all about lately. But yeah, pretty much whatever.
I'm always looking for suggestions.

Speaker 14 I like that. What about you, Peter?

Speaker 8 I'm having a pretty good fall because a couple of my favorite bands are just doing albums right now. So Parcels just put out an album, which is great.
Love them.

Speaker 8 Tame and Paula's got a new album coming out.

Speaker 8 So singles have been great.

Speaker 8 Heim put out a new album. That was like this past summer.
I love them.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, like Mac DeMarco put out a new album. So, like, a lot of my favorite artists are kind of just like putting out music right now, which is great.

Speaker 9 Do you guys feel like this genre of music is AI-proof?

Speaker 100 Good question.

Speaker 103 It's a tough one.

Speaker 10 It's a tough question.

Speaker 139 Who knows where that's

Speaker 128 going?

Speaker 126 The scope of where that's headed is.

Speaker 132 I don't know if anyone's really unknown.

Speaker 9 It's crazy. I've been in the For You playlist that Spotify puts out, they've been giving me some bands that I've confirmed are AI and 100% built for my algorithm.
Whoa, that's wild.

Speaker 9 And I liked some of the songs, and it's scary because it's like, oh shit, they know exactly how to hit those parts of your brain.

Speaker 9 But I do feel like with the longer, more jam-oriented stuff, the more complicated stuff, it's going to be harder for a robot to synthesize that. But maybe that's just for I mean,

Speaker 132 a robot can definitely lay down some jams.

Speaker 139 But a robot, an AI can never play a sick live show.

Speaker 128 I hope. You're daring it.

Speaker 10 Say that now. You know what?

Speaker 128 I'll take that back.

Speaker 139 This is not a challenge.

Speaker 80 We're AI-proof because we just get so many things wrong.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 10 We're never going to get the amount of things wrong that we get wrong.

Speaker 127 Yeah.

Speaker 127 We should make more mistakes.

Speaker 142 Yeah, right.

Speaker 10 You got to fuck up.

Speaker 127 Right.

Speaker 50 Your best, your worst shows are actually.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's proof that you're human. Exactly.
So you should actually love the bad shows. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 8 Be like, oh, thank God we we up that one yeah

Speaker 125 it's real man robots can't get us all right i got uh this has been awesome guys i got one last question roback question r-h-o-b-ac-c-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take uh tires

Speaker 103 you're in it yeah

Speaker 43 that was pretty cool

Speaker 107 yeah what how did that happen because we are our we're friends with shane we're also like francis who works with us feidelberg who works with us they were in it as well it seems like the funnest, like Shane just gets all his friends to just be in it.

Speaker 14 So, how did that happen?

Speaker 132 There was,

Speaker 95 get off, get off mic with this.

Speaker 132 There's a friend of ours who is a big, big dead fan and got into us from, we were going down to doing the Mexico thing and became close with him.

Speaker 132 And he, he works in the industry and kind of connected me with some people and

Speaker 132 kind of came in that way. Yeah.

Speaker 65 More acting in the future? Maybe.

Speaker 47 Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 132 Kind of want to make some records right now.

Speaker 132 Yeah, that's fair. But yeah, I'm down.
I had such a blast.

Speaker 132 Those guys are amazing. Yeah.
So funny.

Speaker 99 Very funny.

Speaker 138 All right. Well, thank you boys for coming by.

Speaker 65 This has been awesome.

Speaker 38 Thanks for having us.

Speaker 10 We're all very pumped to have you. Thank you.

Speaker 107 And I did invite you guys to, if you wanted to watch NFL Sunday with us, but I didn't really get any response from that.

Speaker 65 But you guys are welcome.

Speaker 132 I was pretty deep in the ice cream at the time.

Speaker 99 Yeah, you're welcome to come back.

Speaker 10 If you're in Chicago for a few days, you're welcome to come back.

Speaker 65 Appreciate it.

Speaker 65 We do the gauntlet too on Monday if you wanted to.

Speaker 143 And more ice cream.

Speaker 143 Hell yeah.

Speaker 119 Peter, if you come back, I'll get you some of the whatever.

Speaker 10 You don't even know.

Speaker 114 What do you do?

Speaker 88 You just don't eat ice cream?

Speaker 128 No, man.

Speaker 8 Some of the best ice cream is dairy-free.

Speaker 50 That's so not true.

Speaker 10 Listen, man, boy.

Speaker 114 You might be the first one.

Speaker 19 You don't even know, dude.

Speaker 128 You might be the first

Speaker 110 rock star that I wouldn't want to trade lives with.

Speaker 96 No, thank you.

Speaker 114 Oh, man.

Speaker 128 You're missing out. I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 132 I'll say, though, actually, he used to make, like, we lived together a few years ago, and he used to make dessert salad. He had this massive bowl.
I think we even gave him this bowl for his birthdays.

Speaker 45 Yeah, he was a giant bowl.

Speaker 132 And he would just fill it with like a pint of like Ben and Jerry's non-dairy and then just put a bunch of shit on top of it.

Speaker 99 I know how to dessert, man.

Speaker 127 But you get it.

Speaker 9 You have it easy for a lactose-intolerant guy. Like, imagine being lactose-intolerant in the 70s.

Speaker 44 Sure, nothing.

Speaker 8 I mean, even when I became lactose-intolerant, intolerant, there was like, there was Arctic Zero, and that was it. Yeah.

Speaker 103 Tasted like shit.

Speaker 49 I did all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 79 Wait, you became lactose intolerant?

Speaker 114 Yeah, when I was 18.

Speaker 14 That proves that it's not real.

Speaker 127 You don't just choose to not like ice cream anymore.

Speaker 50 I think you just

Speaker 142 decide.

Speaker 90 You just don't like taking a shit. Yeah.

Speaker 127 That's what it is. Like, we all do it.

Speaker 82 It doesn't feel good after you eat ice cream.

Speaker 118 Do you think, like, when I eat five ice cream cones on a Sunday, yes, I have diarrhea.

Speaker 127 Does that make me lactose intolerant?

Speaker 10 Not at all. No, that makes me a fat fuck who can't stop himself from eating ice cream.
He's a human.

Speaker 47 Hell yeah.

Speaker 127 All right.

Speaker 58 Thanks, boys. Thanks, man.

Speaker 99 Thanks for having us. Thanks, fellas.
Appreciate it.

Speaker 40 Okay, before we get to part in your take, I wanted to talk to you about my favorite treat out there.

Speaker 22 It's Reese's with this perfect combination of chocolate and peanut butter.

Speaker 77 There's really nothing like a Reese's peanut butter cup.

Speaker 70 You can find Reese's peanut butter cups basically anywhere.

Speaker 11 And look at this.

Speaker 86 What do I got here? Oh, man.

Speaker 28 The caramel big cup.

Speaker 35 So, not only is it a dynamic duo with chocolate and peanut butter, it's a dynamic duo with chocolate, peanut butter, and caramel.

Speaker 68 The Reese's caramel cup.

Speaker 28 The big cup.

Speaker 69 I absolutely love these.

Speaker 57 Reese's are my favorite little treat out there.

Speaker 43 I probably eat one of these, two of these a day.

Speaker 39 And guess what?

Speaker 2 I'm living a very happy life because I love Reese's.

Speaker 1 So shop Reese's peanut butter cups now at a store near you.

Speaker 11 Find wherever candy is sold.

Speaker 2 Okay, boys, let's wrap up the show. Great show.

Speaker 123 Pardon your take.

Speaker 77 Do you think, how many people do you think were listening and

Speaker 29 they're going to correct us on the Russell Wilson thing, and then they're going to get to the breaking moose?

Speaker 101 Good amount. Yeah, fair amount.
Listen,

Speaker 6 you got to stay loose. You got to stay.

Speaker 57 We're always moving.

Speaker 31 We're always flexible.

Speaker 103 We're like water.

Speaker 135 What do you think Russie's going to do now?

Speaker 9 Are they going to make him third string or are they going to make him back up?

Speaker 77 I think they've got to make him third string because you're basically saying he stinks.

Speaker 26 They said back up. Okay.

Speaker 9 Backup, so this is just Jameis Winston erasure.

Speaker 26 Yeah, this is bullshit.

Speaker 25 And I said you got to make him third string mostly because I'm biased and I want Jameis to be.

Speaker 9 Yeah, this is bullshit, though. Still.

Speaker 12 All right, pardon your takes.

Speaker 9 I'm going to hammer Scatterboat this weekend.

Speaker 94 If your groomsman whispered to you on the altar at your wedding that the Mavs traded Luca, how would you react? Parentheses, hypothetically, if you were a Mavs fan. Oof.

Speaker 119 That would be tough. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'd need a second to collect myself.

Speaker 80 That's a bad groomsman.

Speaker 59 I think you got to save that for after the vows are said.

Speaker 53 You can't drop a bomb in his ear right before.

Speaker 9 Yeah, although if you wait until afterwards, then you kind of ruin the whole vibe of how excited he already is.

Speaker 9 If you're the groom, what you got to do is you have to let the emotions flow, but then tell everybody it's because you're so emotional about getting married, and that's why you're crying.

Speaker 85 Max, are we going to be groomsmen for you?

Speaker 19 You guys aren't going to come to my wedding. I know.
Yeah, we are. You're not going to come.

Speaker 18 That would be sick if we were just the five of us were the groomsmen.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 84 Oh, brothers, just don't get it.

Speaker 9 When the preacher says, speak now or forever hold your peace, I'm going to be like,

Speaker 9 are A.J. Brown and Jalen Hurts okay?

Speaker 12 I've been a groomsman at a bunch of weddings.

Speaker 72 My favorite thing to do right before you go out is just be like, dude, say the word.

Speaker 77 We'll get the fuck out of here right now.

Speaker 19 Like,

Speaker 33 I won't judge you.

Speaker 81 We'll get in a car. We'll get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 77 We can just pretend none of this happened.

Speaker 50 Has anyone taken you up on it?

Speaker 81 No, but it does lighten the mood.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 95 It's good. Ha ha.

Speaker 25 No, I actually want to go through with this.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I would do if someone took me up on it.

Speaker 74 Like, wait, I was just kidding, man.

Speaker 62 Fuck.

Speaker 18 We got to do this. What are you talking about? We can't leave.

Speaker 90 So yeah, you can call my bluff, Max.

Speaker 45 We're a Grimsman. I think

Speaker 9 you got to keep that to yourself.

Speaker 24 I'm offended that you don't think we're going to.

Speaker 59 I mean, is it going to be a football weekend?

Speaker 57 Nope.

Speaker 124 We'll be there.

Speaker 9 You got to keep it to yourself if Luca is like in the moment. Make us croomsman.

Speaker 84 It's travel, though.

Speaker 87 I thought your wedding was going to be in the office.

Speaker 47 Shit.

Speaker 1 Well, it's going to be, we'll have a conversation because it's like an all-or-nothing thing.

Speaker 124 We can't, some of us can't

Speaker 23 skip.

Speaker 19 We could skip.

Speaker 82 You want to skip?

Speaker 19 depends where it is okay it's a i'm leaning towards i'm leaning towards the caribbean the caribbean i'm in oh no no we have to go you would love to pick some jewel and beat news to max oh

Speaker 9 wouldn't you yeah yeah

Speaker 95 okay

Speaker 94 hey guys what is the biggest what if in sports that would have changed the entire landscape of what we know today for me it's the bledsoe injury without brady payton dominates and becomes the goat he becomes part owner of the raiders and broadcast for fox he sits in the booth with the headset and hank thinks it's weird.

Speaker 82 Wait, he would be Tom Brady.

Speaker 43 Yeah, Peyton still would have been Peyton.

Speaker 94 He's saying he would have been the GOAT. Oh.

Speaker 9 I thought you were saying that Drew Bledsoe would have done all the things that Tom Brady did.

Speaker 94 No, he just said without Brady, Peyton dominates. Peyton dominates.

Speaker 84 So what was the beginning of the question?

Speaker 94 What's the biggest what if in sports?

Speaker 9 We can go the injury route.

Speaker 29 What if LeBron never took

Speaker 94 the Ray Allen Allen 3.

Speaker 51 Derek Rose injury.

Speaker 9 Yeah, RG 3 injury.

Speaker 94 Kendrick Perkins' injury. Belichick.

Speaker 119 Jets.

Speaker 109 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 19 That's a good one. That's a really good one.

Speaker 9 What if the Browns had kept Belichick?

Speaker 9 And Saban.

Speaker 10 Yeah, if Sabin kept Sabin?

Speaker 9 No, if the Browns had kept

Speaker 9 Belichick and the Britain and Sabin coached the Ravens.

Speaker 31 Yeah, they would have been the Ravens at the same time.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 86 Good what-ifs.

Speaker 132 Carson Wentz never got hurt.

Speaker 94 Well, speaking of Carson Wentz, good good segue.

Speaker 94 My name is Michael, and here's my take. Carson Wentz is at the top of Mount Rushmore of edging.
As a Colts fan, he edged me for an entire season, and he's done it to multiple fan bases.

Speaker 94 Is Carson Wentz the G-E-O-A-T?

Speaker 9 Greatest edger of all time?

Speaker 70 Did you feel edged?

Speaker 9 I never felt edged. I never felt edged.
Not once. I never even came close to being edged.

Speaker 53 You believed in him for a little bit.

Speaker 46 I'm going to have to do some digging. You definitely got edged.

Speaker 9 I think there's enough evidence out when Schefter teased, Schefter edged me with the Carson Wentz news. And he teased me with, oh, the Commanders might sign Carson Wentz.

Speaker 9 And I was angry at him for that. So I was never.
And then when we actually got him, then I flipped out because I didn't want him. And then, of course, like every sports fan,

Speaker 9 you have to lie to yourself and convince yourself of something. Get worked up about it because, hey, what if Carson Wentz makes me come?

Speaker 9 And never even got close

Speaker 68 I faked it I faked being edged by him he is he is an edger though but I don't know I don't know if he still has it the edge like

Speaker 43 I guess we'd have to ask the Vikings fan

Speaker 19 by

Speaker 9 see yeah he's a big shotgun guy right he's shoots a lot of skeet he might be an edger yeah

Speaker 94 all right last one what's up fellas big fan to solve disputes about controversial calls every ref in the major sports wears helmet slash hack hams in the event of a close controversial call The first replay of the show is full-speed officials' point of view.

Speaker 94 That way, we can at least see what they saw to make a call or a non-call.

Speaker 9 It's like the axon body cams.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I don't know if this changes anything because don't we have better views?

Speaker 9 Yeah, we have better views. And none of the ump cams really work.
They're all jiggly. And

Speaker 9 when they show a POV review, it makes me more confused about what happened in the first place. It actually does a good job of being ref propaganda.
Yeah, which is the best way to do that.

Speaker 19 Well, that's what the cut.

Speaker 2 Oh, just to make refs feel better?

Speaker 15 So you don't get mad at the refs.

Speaker 9 Oh, no. Fuck that.

Speaker 83 No, no.

Speaker 97 I want to get mad at the refs. There you go.
You got to get mad at the refs. Yeah.

Speaker 20 What's the whole point of refs is to get mad, right?

Speaker 19 Yeah, and umpires, like Griggles.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 97 Okay, good show, boys.

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Speaker 79 Ah, good call. Good call on that number.

Speaker 97 Really good call.

Speaker 84 That was a nice slide.

Speaker 90 Really what you did.

Speaker 9 72.

Speaker 124 I'll take number one for America's number one lottery app, Jackpocket.

Speaker 9 72.

Speaker 116 22.

Speaker 116 25.

Speaker 50 99 put.

Speaker 9 699 days for memes. For that, this would be 700 for memes.

Speaker 67 Oh, 76.

Speaker 45 25.

Speaker 121 Did you get it?

Speaker 9 Did you say 25? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 132 Oh!

Speaker 100 Oh!

Speaker 10 Oh!

Speaker 122 Yes, Zach!

Speaker 10 Again!

Speaker 10 He did it again!

Speaker 120 This guy can't be stopped. Memes!

Speaker 9 Sorry, Zach, I talked over you when you're doing it. Because I wanted to highlight the fact that it's been now officially 700 days.
Oh, no!

Speaker 10 Memes hasn't got it.

Speaker 9 And Zach, you got it twice.

Speaker 113 Oh, let's get a memes lottery ball clock

Speaker 45 for the wall. That counts up? Yeah.

Speaker 115 Yeah, days since he's got

Speaker 1 days since he's never, he's never gotten it. Yeah.

Speaker 117 Memes.

Speaker 46 Or we could do a countdown

Speaker 46 until he gets to Hank.

Speaker 10 Okay, that works too.

Speaker 11 Memes,

Speaker 1 I guess

Speaker 69 that would double as

Speaker 35 a death clock for memes.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 93 That kind of solves both.

Speaker 74 Or a death clock for Hank.

Speaker 88 Talking serious because after Zach got the first one,

Speaker 92 you were fine.

Speaker 23 This one's got to hurt.

Speaker 47 No, he's really good at it.

Speaker 74 No, it's got to hurt.

Speaker 9 It's just really easy.

Speaker 74 I mean, Zach, how do you do it?

Speaker 9 I just usually go with the the numbers that are on the graphic on the jackpot machine.

Speaker 19 Oh.

Speaker 7 There's 25 right there.

Speaker 127 Wrong one.

Speaker 9 I did that same thing today. I did one.

Speaker 82 Oh, man, Zach, you're so good at this, dude.

Speaker 10 Mac's crazy.

Speaker 9 So you've gotten it twice.

Speaker 73 Twice, Zach.

Speaker 9 No, every ball has its day.

Speaker 24 No, but Zach has gotten it twice in one day.

Speaker 19 That's not true, Zach.

Speaker 26 That's not true. Yeah, that is just not true.

Speaker 9 Zero for memes. Incredible job.
Well, I did get it that one time. One time.
No, you didn't.

Speaker 19 No, you didn't. I did.
No, you never. No, no, no.
You've never gotten it.

Speaker 88 I did guess it right that one time.

Speaker 9 I would give you my lottery ball win if I could. I guessed it right.

Speaker 9 You still need to acknowledge that. I guessed it right.
No, I got it.

Speaker 50 How?

Speaker 9 I got the numbers. It says right there.

Speaker 9 I said two and two popped up.

Speaker 112 So I technically guessed it.

Speaker 9 I did not win it, but I did guess it. SFT says I have eight wins, and it says right here that memes has zero wins.

Speaker 9 I did not win it, but I guessed it right. You've never gotten it.

Speaker 79 Damn, dude.

Speaker 68 Memes, that is tough.

Speaker 9 What a legend.

Speaker 19 Memes, I mean,

Speaker 43 how do you live with yourself?

Speaker 106 Memes?

Speaker 106 What?

Speaker 43 How do you live with yourself?

Speaker 9 My day is fine. No, it's not.

Speaker 9 No, it's not. No, it's not.

Speaker 135 It's not fine.

Speaker 45 Zach, great job.

Speaker 55 Maybe, can you, I'm going to tell you something I need you to do for me.

Speaker 48 Maybe pull memes aside and give him some tips and tell them how to do this.

Speaker 67 Can you do that for me?

Speaker 19 Yes, sir. Okay.

Speaker 32 All right, Pug, maybe get that for PMTV.

Speaker 68 Maybe put a PowerPoint together for memes on how to get the lottery ball correct.

Speaker 1 That would be a great PMTV. I think everyone would enjoy watching that, right?

Speaker 84 I would.

Speaker 19 Yeah. All right, so there we go.

Speaker 9 So So get Zach gets it two times on his own? Yeah. PFC got it once on his own here in this one.

Speaker 90 In this room, you have. I've gotten the lottery ball twice.

Speaker 19 No, you've you needed another man to get the lottery ball for you.

Speaker 92 It's really sad. This is really sad.

Speaker 39 You're lashing out. You're lashing out.

Speaker 21 This is really sad.

Speaker 20 Cuck.

Speaker 51 Oh, memes.

Speaker 9 This is sad memes.

Speaker 9 Zach, yeah, please.

Speaker 18 PowerPoint.

Speaker 68 I actually like to attend as well. Just kind of breaking down how you get it right so often.

Speaker 9 I think it would be a fun

Speaker 9 Group project.

Speaker 127 Yeah, perfect. Perfect.

Speaker 122 All right.

Speaker 127 Not a group project.

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