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They gave us a shit game.

that looked so bad that had the Arizona Cardinals fan base booing them

with their weird

jerseys with the speckled sand or whatever, cake batter. I don't know what it was.
And then we got

Fun Fetty. And then we got an awesome ending

where, you know, Sam Darnold takes him back down the field, kicks field goal for the win.

NFL, he did it again. Even in the worst of nights, you somehow made it interesting at the end.
So shout out the NFL. Yeah, I mean, great job.
Great product.

Kudos to those of us that stuck around, the real ones, real ball watchers that didn't turn this game off at halftime.

Because if you watched the Seattle Seahawks and the Arizona Cardinals ever play a game against each other before, you knew that there was going to be some weird shit that happened.

That's what happened, especially in primetime when these two teams play.

But yeah, for the first half, it was like the only noteworthy thing about this game was the uniforms, or as Kyler would call them, the new skins that they were rocking.

And that was like splitting people down the middle half and half. I

didn't really like them, but I kind of grew to enjoy them because I liked the cream color that's like in the background. Yeah, I didn't like, I didn't like the speckles, I didn't like the

gradient numbers that they had on, but I did like the kind of vintage cream tone that it had. So there was that, and then there was everybody just being like Marvin Harrison Jr.

sucks at football, and Kyler Murray is a bummer. Yeah, and the helmets, too.
I like the helmets, that's what threw me off. Didn't like the jerseys, like the helmets.

Also, we should say, I thought it was going to be an awesome Thursday night football game the way it started when we had the rare interception into a fumble.

And I was like, this game makes no sense already. This is going to be great.
Kyler Murray tried to throw an interception, wasn't successful, then did throw an interception. Then it got fumbled

on the return. And I was like, let's go.
Let's have some weird shit happen. And then it was basically two and a half hours of boring football.

until there was five minutes left and the Cardinals were like, hey, maybe we should try some offense here. Yeah, their offense was, it was painful to watch.
I mean,

they are the all-time leaders. This is the worst body language team I've ever seen.

Our Cardinals,

it's like Kyler, I think Kyler is really good at a job that he hates. And I don't think he has fun playing football.
Marvin Harrison, I think he's just, he's got the yips. He's in a weird zone.

And he's like... not having a good time either.
And he doesn't have a leader on the team that's actually like trying to get him to play better.

They go to the sidelines sidelines and they both just look sad, sit far away from each other and don't communicate. It's a really strange vibe that they have in Arizona.

I don't think that they're going to win many football games, but I didn't think that they had a chance in this one. And then they did.
Yeah.

Our good friend Trill Withers said

he asked the question, have Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray ever met each other? And that was a fair question in the first half because it did look like they had never spoken before.

The body language, the way they were just like the passes, Marvin Harrison just dropping one, basically handing an interception away.

Yeah, it was, and I'm, so the beginning of this game, I think the Seahawks are good. I think their defense is very good.

And I just think they're good. Like,

I'm high on the Seahawks and I'm low on the Cardinals. So for the first 50 minutes of this game, I was like, I fucking know ball.
Like, I got this. I know ball.

I've been saying the Cardinals are not a very good team and a bummer to watch. And then they, and then there's that.
You know what I mean?

What we watched at the end, that Kyler Murray, that big scramble, the beautiful pass to Marvin Harrison for a touchdown, it's in there somewhere.

And it's so, it's such a tease that it's there and it just doesn't consistently, it's not consistently there.

And if you're a Cardinals fan, you have to be so frustrated because you see the flashes and it just doesn't, you can't do 60 minutes of it.

You know, the thing that irritates me the most about Kyler is when he gets out of the pocket and he runs towards the line of scrimmage and he could try to make something happen.

He's probably the most athletic dude on the field. He's one of the shiftiest.
He's quick. He's electric.
He's small. So he's kind of hard to tackle.

And then he gets to the line of scrimmage and instead of trying to make a linebacker miss or like make a cut, He just does the really quick slide.

Like the fastest slide that you've ever seen where he just like drops down and then pops right back up. Okay, play play over.
I'm not going to even try to get in yards.

Like, I would, you would like to see your quarterback try to win a football game by making somebody miss or by trying to pick up a first down.

I don't think he realizes that you're allowed to do that, or he didn't until the fourth quarter today when he's like, okay, I'm running.

I might as well try to get a first down, pick up some yards, see if we can get a touchdown, tie the game up. Yeah.
Like, where was that for the first three, three quarters? It was crazy.

And probably a lot of credit to the Seahawks defense because they did feel like they were all over the place. Even like, remember that flea flicker where they just timed a perfect

blitz off of both edges, and it was just like, okay, this was stupid.

It was actually the one moment the Cardinals had a little offensive success and removing the ball, and then they tried a flea flicker and they got sacked.

We also had the Cardinals kind of a bummer when they showed the graphic. 2018 first-round quarterbacks.
Baker Mayfield was there.

Sam Darnold, who was beating them in the, in the process of beating them, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, who was on the Cardinals for a single year and then Lamar Jackson

that was that was tough to see

and yeah I don't know I like the Seahawks own the Cardinals they've won eight straight against them

the also the favorites are now 4-0

straight up on Thursday night football something to note not against the spread because of the bills last week but I don't yeah I mean it was I got to say, like, in terms of Thursday night football games, we've seen worse.

We thought we were going to be able to start this show. I almost texted you guys when it was 20 to or 17 to 3 being like, should we just record?

And then there was just a little bit of something from the Carnival. You're like, oh, shit, we probably got to stay.
Probably got to watch the end of this.

And it ended up being a good game at the end. It was one of those games where the Seahawks had it in hand for so long.
And I kept re-looking at the score and doing, what's 17 minus three?

That is 14 points.

Like, this is, they're not out of it. It feels like they're out of it, but I know for a fact that that equals 14, and that's two touchdowns.
So anything could happen. I got a crazy Marvin Harrison Jr.

stat for you. Okay.

How many missed are how many

broken tackles do you think Marvin Harrison Jr. has over the course of his admittedly short NFL career so far? Three.

Nope. Hank, do you want to guess? One.

No, he has zero.

He's never broken a tackle. But that's also not really what he's supposed to be doing.

He's just got to be catching the ball. He's got to be getting up there and catching the ball and beating guys down the field.
But yeah, he should have.

Yes. You could luck your way into a missed tackle at some point.
He's like the biggest guy on the field. But he's not a slide receiver.
But yes, yes.

Ideally, it'd be nice if he had one. Yeah, no, I'd agree.
I'd agree.

But I think you've got to like, if you're a coach for Marvin Harrison, you can't be like, hey, we got to start breaking breaking tackles. We got to just focus on catching the ball first.

Then we can elevate to breaking tackles. Yeah, I'm not saying that they should like coach him up on, okay, here's how we're going to be more physical at the point of contact, Marv.

Actually, it's not even catching the ball. It's the first step is not giving the other team easy interceptions.

The first thing we got to teach them is to bat the ball down, then catch the ball, then make some moves. Yeah, the first thing is like, know where you're supposed to be.

And then the second thing is, if you are in the place that you're supposed to be, don't let the other guys step in and catch it. Right.

And third thing is, after you catch it, don't fumble it in the air and bobble it and then let the other guy catch it. Then it's make the catch.

And then after that, it's like try not to get tackled immediately. Right, right, exactly.
But that was a great catch that he had at the end of the game. That was an awesome throw by Kyler.

Great catch by Marv. And then credit to Sam Darnold, threw an absolute seed down the sideline to JSN.
Well, and also shout out to kicker for the Cardinals for fucking that up.

How do you not get it to the 20? Like, that's, I know people are going to blame the new rules, but the new rules are like, we've had two years of it. Just kick it, kick it to the 20.

You got to get in the landing zone.

Like, that cost them. And

then the Seahawks were one play away, and that's all they needed. They need one play and a run, and they got the field goal.

Yeah, I mean, actually, it was two really nice passes by Sam Darnold in the fourth quarter to JSN. Yes.
After he went completely MIA in the first like two and a half, three quarters,

finally incorporated him to the downfield passing game a little bit. That was nice to see.
Yeah, we also had,

last thing about this game, we had the rare shout out to fan. Actually, I'll say it,

if someone can find him, we'll have him on the show.

The Cardinals fan with the ponytail that I don't know if you saw in PFT.

He didn't even need, like, I sent it to memes to face swap Max, but it already was kind of Max. Yeah, it was I mean put the picture up in the YouTube like Max did you do a double take you saw mine

I was just taking a picture of my TV That was not you, but it looked like you Yeah, no, I you said it exactly.

I knew that it wasn't me, but I I didn't know for sure I was zooming in to make sure make sure that that wasn't memes

I also was like memes is gonna make this immediately and then I didn't even realize as I was typing it he posted he posted yeah

we need to get that guy because the ponytail was I mean that was he probably gets so many fucking chicks like you don't get like a rat tail ponytail combo that doesn't you don't see that very often in the wild so when you do women got to be going nuts for that there's some girls walking around Glendale tonight with a little bit of red paint and yellow paint on the inside of their thighs if you know what I'm saying yep yep yeah the whole full face paint um all right before we get get to weekend preview and our interviews,

MLB has been awesome. Cal Rowley, 60th home run.

Shout out the dude who handed the ball to a little kid.

The Mariners actually found him because I hit up Josh, our booker, and I was like, can we find this guy? I want to interview him.

The guy is an all-time guy because I think they found him and he's like, I don't really want to do media. He's just a great guy.

That was awesome. The Guardians and Tigers series has been incredible.

The Tigers finally won one, but they've been just basically

all-time collapse. Right now, I think it stands.
So if the playoffs started today, it would be, what would the seedings be? Oh, it would be

Yankees hosting Red Sox.

Guardians hosting Tigers in the AL. Oh, I love that.
Yeah. Yeah.
I love that. Because the Astros are also falling apart.
So it's it's been like everyone's falling apart at the same time.

Yeah, the Tigers are just in the mother of all slumps right now. Guardians are a red hot.

I put a future on the Guardians to win the World Series just because of how crazy this last month has been for them. They're the best team in baseball right now.

I don't think they're the most talented team, but in terms of the streak that they're on. It's worth a shot at least.
But yeah, Red Sox, Yankees in the opening series. That's going to be awesome.

Yeah. And then we have in the NL, it would be right now, now, it would be Mets, Dodgers.
The Reds are still in this. And then Padres, Cubs.
Cubs still need to win.

I think their magic number is now two to get a home playoff series in the wild card. But it's been like, this is, as much as I hate that every sport has just added so many playoff spots.

Baseball is the one sport where I'm like, yeah, this is kind of fun because 162 games is a lot of games.

And if it was just what it used to be with four or the one-game playoff, I kind of like that there's more teams involved in the last week of the season. Yeah, yeah, I don't hate it either.

Memes, what are your thoughts about the Mets?

Right now, they're good. I went to the game last night, which was Wednesday, and it was like the worst baseball game I've ever seen in my life, but they did bounce back today.

Okay, but like, and they also did get bailed out so hard Wednesday night. The Diamondbacks had bases loaded,

one out, and didn't score. And then the same thing happened in the Reds game.
So

they are getting bailed out right now. So hopefully they just win two or three at Miami.
But mentally, where are you?

Are you gun to your head? Are they making the playoffs?

Yes. Yes.
They are definitely set up in a spot that

they should be feeling okay about themselves. There's an excellent gun by Zach.
If you're not watching the YouTube, you should check it out. Great gun, Zach.

By the way, I should mention the Yankees and Blue Jays are actually tied

for the alias right now.

So the Blue Jays have the tiebreaker over the Yankees, but

the Yankees have caught the Blue Jays. Everyone's catching everyone.
And it all comes down to this last weekend. It's going to be awesome.
Oh, and we're getting robot umps next year. Yes.
Yes.

For balls and strikes. They're going to do the replay, and the replay is going to be like it is in the minors on the pitcher, on the batter, or on the catcher.

They're not allowed to have any help from the dugout. They have to tap their head to challenge a ball or a strike.
So

I'm interested to see how that strategy comes into play. Like, if you've got a guy that's not really a team guy necessarily, he's going to be using those reviews on himself, right? Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

End of season, games that don't matter. You should be burning them on yourself for sure.

Have to.

Anything else? Baseball. Are you ready, Hank?

Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited. Playoff baseball, best time of the year.

I'm serious.

Listen, baseball and hockey, I've said it. It's the playoffs are the best.
Regular season, kind of boring. But this last week is a nice playoff appetizer where every pitch matters.

It's a bandwagon? And it's yeah. Hank, you're playing the Tigers, which is kind of interesting because it's like if either team sweeps, the other team could be out of the playoffs.
Yeah.

Which is going to be people

on this weekend. I know.
Yeah, there's a lot of sports going on this weekend. This is one of the best sports weekends.

These are the weekends we got to close our eyes and just like soak it all in because there you go, Zach. Zach's closing his eyes right now.
But like

when it's like July and we're like, oh man, we kill for this.

This is everything. We got baseball, we got Ryder Cup, we got football, college football, NFL.
Everything's in front of us this weekend.

I think when you look at sports as a whole, this is the best sports weekend, top to bottom, that I can remember. Yeah, hey, guys,

none of us die tomorrow. Yeah, stay home, wrap yourself in.
Oh, you're mad, Max. Why?

Well, Hank and I are getting on a flight. Okay, well, don't die.
Don't die on the flight, okay? That would be a fucking and I'll say this right now. Oh, GFD.

I don't like those sarcastic groans over there. I hope you're saying it'd be bad.
I hope you do.

If you guys do die, such assholes.

I don't want Hank to die. He owes me $8,000.
It's in your will.

It's $7,500 now. We've got to win some Sorlettes.

If you guys do die, I just want you to know I will not be mourning you until Monday.

Fair? That's fair. That's fair.
Like, I'll just wake up on Monday and be like, fuck, I forgot. Max and Hank died.
God damn it. That's fine.
No, you guys will You guys are going to have a great time.

No one died in the next 24 hours.

Deal. Zach,

your camera is way too HD. I feel like I'm watching a fucking porn right now, dude.

I can figure out how to dial it back. We might be too porn right now.
I can dial back. We're good.

I just looked up and

you are crystal clear. How do you have such a better camera than all of us?

Maybe it's just a good day. Maybe the lighting's just hitting decent this time.
Not sure.

I think you had a good camera. I think for comms.
Stream setup. Stream setup.
Yeah.

You're a ring cam girl?

I don't have a ring cam. I would like.

Can you do ring camera departments? Are those

the fucking? Oh, the ring. Oh, the ring lights.
No. The ring lights.

I do have some lights, but no ring light.

No circular lights. They're square.
Just chatting with Zach.

Yeah. Yeah, we got to get you streaming.
We got to get you.

We've been telling him to get his...

He's been practicing his stream set up at home. Yeah.

We're getting down at the house. Yeah.

All right. So anything else? Oh,

another sixer got injured.

Jerry McCain.

We can't worry about that right now. I did like Max's trees.
He's like, I have too many sports things going on to even process this. And I completely agree.

You can't, like, you can't process a sixth man who's a good player getting injured in preseason hoops right before this weekend. Yeah, yeah, no, it was more.

There's too many things going on. It can't be villain, a Villanova guard also is injured.
He's hoping to be back by a Biggie's play. That was another thing that happened today.

I was like, you know what? Let's just focus on football and baseball.

That's it. That's it.
Birds and the fightings this weekend. And the Knits, bro.
And the Knits. And the Knits.
Yep.

All right.

Let's kick it to ourselves. Back in studio.
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Okay, boys.

What are we thinking? Week four. It's a great week.
Saturday is going to be incredible. Sunday is going to be incredible.
We got some big, big games. And we also have our first Ireland game.

Henry, congratulations. You've done it.
You've done it again. Aye.
We're going to have the. Did you guys see the news, by the way? What's the news? Please tell us the news.

The NFL released a statement saying that's not going to happen anytime soon. The Super Bowl? Yeah.
Huh. Okay.

It worked. The balling worked.
We can't believe that, right?

They're trying to get us to soften up. Hank, where did you see this statement? Yeah.
Front office sports. It was a couple of days ago.
I'll try to get away from it. The FTV cannot fall for this.

They're trying to get us to loosen up and be like, oh, we're good. I'm torn between.
I don't want to take my eye off the ball, but I also want to claim credit for bullying Roger Goodell.

Being a small piece of the pie. All right, I'll keep my eye on the ball.
You take credit. Okay, we did a great job bullying Roger Goodell.
Yeah, that's right, Roger. Bitch.
Yeah, I don't believe this.

I think they're still going to try it. I'm going to keep my eye on the ball.
All right, cool. Yeah.
All right, we got it covered. Good news, break.

Vikings at Steelers. Steelers minus two and a a half.
Over-under is 40.5.

This is actually Mike Tomlinson only second game playing international. Yeah.
Which is kind of weird because it feels like everyone's played these international games.

Also, Aaron Rodgers. I think they hooked the Steelers up with that because the Steelers are like Goodell's favorite franchise.
Yeah. Yeah.
Aaron Rodgers last year played over in England.

This is obviously in Ireland. Over in England, though, with the Jets against Brian Flores Vikings.
Yep. That was was a three-interception, three-sack game.
I like the Vikings in this game.

Yeah, and Brian Flores used to be on the Steelers coaching staff on the defense side of the ball.

And then he left because some people say that Tom Lynn wanted to run his defense, not Brian Flores blitzing all the time. Yep.
But yeah, Aaron Rodgers had a tough time with him last year.

We got Carson Wentz, an honorary ginger. I think he's a ginger, so he'll be accepted in Ireland.

Yeah, actually, it's Carson Wentz Ginger. Also, Kevin O'Connell now is 15-3 in the regular.

Actually, I think it's overall 15-3 with a Ginger starting quarterback. That's pretty impressive.
He's a Ginger whisperer. Yeah, he's built for Ireland.
Yeah,

we fucked up last week. Okay.
I'd like to take accountability. Hand up.
We fucked up.

Our guy, Stadthole Sports, when he was trying to talk me into Carson Wentz as the commander's quarterback, gave us a nugget that we used.

And it's a very impressive fact about Carson Wentz that he's the best quarterback of all time in the history of the NFL in yards per attempt

when it's exactly 73 degrees outside. That's right.
What's the weather going to be? He was at 9.71 before last week. It was exactly

73 degrees last week in Minnesota at the time of kickoff. He had another strong showing, 8.65 yards per attempt.
So now his average is down to 9.29, which is still the record.

He's still in first place by a considerable margin. In Ireland, it will not be 73 degrees, but it's something that we should keep in mind moving forward with Carson Wentz.
Okay.

So, yeah, Aaron Rodgers, by the way, not even in the top 50 all-time. Wow.
I thought that was an interesting stat. That's a very interesting stat as well.

Did you hear what Tomlin said about backup quarterbacks?

What did he say? So

he said, we were in a similar situation a year ago when we were playing in Indianapolis. I commented to the guys, you know, keep Anthony Richardson upright.
Don't put Flacco in the game.

So he was telling his guys, whatever you do, do not injure Anthony. We'd much rather play against Anthony Richardson.
So this is just the reverse of bounty gate.

It is the reverse bounty gate, safety gate. Yeah.
Yeah. But make sure he falls very safely.
But what the Vikings did with Wentz is actually very mean to Wentz signing Desmond Ritter.

Yeah, that's right. So if Mike Tomlin's thinking about that, they might be doing bounty gate.
Yeah, that might be. We might get some bounty gate.
Yep. By the way, I wouldn't be.

I saw a clip.

Sean Payton might still be getting a little bounty gate going on. Oh, with the Broncos?

I saw a clip last week of one of the Broncos basically twisting and putting Quentin Johnson into like a Ken Shamrock.

Whatever. What was Ken Shamrock's move? Was it the leg lock? What was it? Was it Four Leaf Clover? No, I can't remember.
Finishing move, Ken Shamrock. This is bad.
Bulldog?

No, it was the ankle lock. He put Quentin Johnson in an ankle lock, and it was a little unnecessary, and Quentin Johnson then limped off.

I'm not accusing anyone spin zone just saying eyes out watch this clip watch this clip oh wait it's not that one that's the rams yeah that was different

okay okay at the end of the spin zone yeah yeah the spin zone is quentin johnson's gotten good enough for other teams to target him that's true take him out of the game that's true and usually when he's targeted he would have dropped in the past yeah this time he got it that's a great all right i think this is it maybe it's not nope oh yeah it is it ready here we go i'm not saying there's bounty gate going on.

I'm just saying

that was kind of bullshit. Followed through on the past.
He literally turned around. He basically alligator rolled them.
Yeah, he did. Yeah, whatever it's called.

And then Quentin Johnson was limping after that. Just something to say.
Okay.

History lesson.

The Vikings literally raided Dublin in 841 A.D.,

took it over, named it Blackpool, which is a pretty cool name. Yeah, Vikings have really had to come up in terms of distance and time from when the Vikings were around.

We treat them like they're cartoon characters. Yeah, right.
They're awesome. They're bad dudes.
Cartoon gods. They're bad mamma jammas.
They were, they were raping. Different era.
They were pillaging.

Oh, okay. Before cancel culture.
Yeah.

You got to judge them by the era. Yeah.
They were pillaging. Yeah.
They were raping. We didn't know that was bad yet.
Yeah.

But we have to ask, what were the Visigoths wearing? Yes. Are they asking for it? The provocation there.

Also, just a fun, fun little wrinkle is this is, and I saw this on my timeline, the last time the Vikings and Steelers played each other, it was the famous Chase Claypool doing a first-down celebration with 30 seconds left in the game while they were trying to score.

And then Ryan Poles went and traded. I saw that same thing.
I forgot how ridiculous that clip was. Ridiculous.
And Big Ben was just staring. I'm like, come on, dude.
I'm dumb, but

I wouldn't do that. What are you doing? All right.
You do have Jordan Addison coming back. Yes.

The Vikings, which if you're overseas in Ireland, you are allowed to drive on the wrong side of the road. Yep.
Yep. Was he, was he, was it for driving or at all? It was wet reckless.
Wet reckless.

Remember that? What? There's something that you can plead down to. If you maybe had a couple pops, drunk and drive.
So damp. You don't want to do a full DUI, but you're willing to admit to something.

It's called Wet Reckless. Internal possession.
Yeah. So he's back from suspension this week.
All I want out of this game, I think that the Irish crowd is different from the UK crowd. Yeah.

I think I like the Ireland crowd a little bit more. I agree.
If you're the Steelers, give them what they... What do you think would go harder?

Having the, you know, when the players do the two guys that stand next to each other and their last names make phrases?

Would

Slay Queen go harder in Ireland? Or her big cunts?

Because they've got Christian. Slay queen.
Okay. Yeah.
Well, I don't like the queen. I was thinking that in Ireland, you know, know, like if you call somebody a cunt.
Yeah. It's like saying, bro.

Yeah, but slay queen. She says they don't like the queen.

We say slay queen, but they're saying like, no, literally, slay the queen. Yeah, exactly.

Okay.

To back to America, where football is supposed to be played.

Commanders of Falcons. Falcons plus one and a half.
Over-under is 45.5.

We touched on it on Wednesday. The Falcons are shuffling the decks on the Titanic.
Zach Robinson moving down to the sideline.

Offensive, or sorry, wide receivers coach getting fired, looking for answers everywhere for Michael Pennix.

PFT, how are you feeling? Is Jaden Daniels playing?

How are you feeling? Well, real quick, you know who they're putting in instead of Ike Hilliard at wide receiver coach. Who? TJ Yates.
Oh, yeah, that's right. Yates of hell.

Yates hell is making his triumphant return this weekend.

I don't know if Jaden's playing or not, which leads me to believe that he might not be playing.

But I'm okay with it. I'm not worried about Jaden.
You're not worried, but he's going to miss two weeks in a row. Not worried about Jaden.

If you had to pick two weeks in a row for Mariota to start, you couldn't have drawn this up any better. Because it's

Raiders' revenge game, Falcons' revenge game. That's true.
And Mariota looked really good last week.

I thought he looked awesome as a beam. I'm thinking it's a system.
It's not. Well, it's a great system.
But he thinks that it's

a good system. Well, yeah, we have a system.

That's a welcome change for me.

It's a good system.

Marcus might be the guy.

So Jaden is the guy, clearly.

He is hurt. I don't think he's injured.
He might sit out this week. I'm actually not worried about Jaden Daniels.
I think he's going to come back. He'll be fine.
Not at all. Not at all.
Not at all.

I've become worried about Terry, though. Yeah, he's injured as well.
Yeah, so he hurt his quad when he was diving into the end zone.

And then he ran out onto the field, got Luke McCaffrey's first touchdown ball, gave it to him. He looked good when he was running after the injury.
Yeah. So then I was like, okay, I'm not worried.

They said it was a quad injury. Then yesterday it comes out, he's getting a second opinion on a quad injury.

And I would imagine that if the first opinion was good news, he probably wouldn't be like, hey, let me make sure I'll go get a second opinion. And then

did a little bit of digging on the doctor that he was going to go see. The doctor that he's seeing for the second opinion is a core injury specialist

like sports hernias, things like that.

So I'm glad Terry got paid,

but

I am worried about Terry. Yeah.

Yeah,

that one, because you, and Noah Brown's out as well. Yep, Debo, Debo is awesome.
But yeah, this one. I went back and I watched more Debo clips.
Debo is legit.

He's back to old Debo right now.

So Raheem Morris said on Michael Pennix remaining the starting QB, Kirk lost his job last year. We're not even close to that with Mike.
He had a bad game. They just hate Kirk Cousins.
Yeah.

That's such a mean thing to say.

Like, hey, just so we're clear, he stunk and

he lost his job. Yeah, there might have been, there was some weird stuff going on with Kirk's alleged injuries and the Falcons not knowing or covering up.

I don't know what happened, but it didn't end well last season with them.

The other thing I'll say for Michael Pennix,

maybe he's starting to figure it out because he said this week, I got to throw the ball to the wide open receivers when they're open.

You've got to be worried about that. That's a fact.

If he figures out, that you got to throw to the guys that are open when they're open,

you could be in trouble. Because if you're throwing to the guys that are open when they're not open, that's when you run into a pick six on the first series.

Or not throwing to the guys who are wide open when they're wide open. That's also bad.
Then you get into the screenshots. That's so bad.
Yeah.

When you're a lefty quarterback, it looks way worse when you're bad than if you're a righty quarterback and it looks bad. PFT, I got bad news for you as well.

After this week, you won't have another

noon central kickoff till week 13. Oh, I hate that.
That sucks. Yeah, that's not good.
I like being kind of lost in the shuffle sometimes.

Yeah, and also just getting it like the afternoon slate is so nice to be like, all right, game happened. Now I can just watch afternoon free-roll.
Yeah, so

I am feeling worried about Terry. I'm feeling a little bit worried about our first overall pick or first round pick last year, too.

Connerly hasn't played that well at all. You said

best tackle. Or you said best offensive lineman in the draft, right? Well, yeah, you say that.
Yeah, yeah.

No, wait, who said? No, Mike Tice said it. Yeah, and you.
That's right. And if I find one person that's happening, that's my expert-to.
So, yeah, I was pumped about him. He has not played very well.

We are getting Sam Cosmy back maybe in the next two weeks, which is going to be awesome. Okay.
He's maybe our best offensive lineman. And

our rookie cornerback, Trey Amos, has been legit, like a lockdown guy. So there are some good signs in Washington, even though Jaden's out.
Lane. Is Bill hurt? No, Bill's back.
Bill's good. All good.

Bill.

Yesterday you were like, oh,

Bill might be hurt, too.

Did I make that up or you said that? He was nicked. He was nicked.
Oh, okay. Yeah, everyone, you know, you get nicked, and then you move on.

He's fine. He's fine.
Yeah, no, Bill's good.

He's ready to roll. And Jalen Lane got rookie of the week last week.
And then I think Trey Amos might have gotten it the week before that. There we go.

We're continuing the trend of Pepsi Zero Sugar rookies of the week. I have one staff for you.
Are you going to, what's your hungry dog this week? I like the Jets. I don't know.

I haven't figured out the other two.

The Falcons, Bengals, and Saints, if they close as dogs of one and a half or higher after losing by 30-plus points, those teams are 61% against the spread since 2003.

Basically, just a stat of when you get smoked, everyone assumes you're just terrible forever. Yeah.

I would have much rather the Falcons won last week than to get their ass kicked and get embarrassed like that. So, yeah, it's going to be - I think it's going to be a competitive game.

The key is, though, to beat Michael Pennix, you got to score more than seven points. Yes.
If you do that, then those teams are undefeated. Score less, you're going to lose.
What about PMT Hungry Dog?

Oh, Bears. Well, the Commanders are favorites.
Yeah, not them. Okay.
Bears, Bucs, Jets. Oh.

Okay.

I don't hate it. Okay.
Hank just loves going against the Eagles. Well, he loves going against any of them.
All of us. The Bucs own the Eagles.
All right. Next game.
Saints at Bills.

Bills are minus 15.5. Overner is 47.5.
I mean, 15.5 is just a constant. This could be one of those ones, though.
It could have been a week early. What if we were a week early?

So Spencer Rattler is 0-9 in his first nine starts in the NFL. The other five, so if he loses this game, which I think he probably will, he will join the illustrious 0-10 or worse crew.

Quarterbacks in that crew, Deshaun Kaiser lost 15, never won a start.

Stan Gelbaugh, I'm going to come back to him.

He lost 11 in a row. Derek Carr, 10 in a row.
Zach Metenberger, 10 in a row. Brody Croyle, 10 in a row.
So I was looking at this because I was just like, you know what?

I'm just going to look into who the fuck Stan Gelbaugh is. So Deshaun Kaiser, never want to start.

Zach Mettenberger never wants to start.

Brody Croyle never want to start. Derek Carr obviously went on to have a good career.
Stan Gelbaugh, he lost 11 of the first 11 starts he made.

He, I think, retired and then came back in 1996, week 17.

He started his last final game and he was 0 for 2 passing, tore his groin on the second series, but the Seahawks won the game, so he technically won his last start ever in the NFL. They retired.

That's Mr. 3000.
Stan Gelbaugh. Yeah.

That's a great story. That's the plot line of that movie.
Won a start. Good for Stan.
He was only in for two series, but he won a start. So shout out Stan Gelbaugh.
Let's get Kaiser back in, huh?

Yeah. Maybe in the Germany game.

The Saints losing so badly last week,

I feel like it's better for them that they have to go on the road again. Yeah.
Than it is to show up. Because you're already seeing some of the Saints fans with the paper bags.
Yep.

New Orleans is out on the Saints this year. I feel like it's a good opportunity for them to go somewhere away from home and maybe lose by a little bit less this week.
Yes, I would agree with that.

I don't, by the way, last thing on Stan Gelbaugh, he I forgot, like, I just kind of forgot that NFL Europe existed.

That's basically how his career got rejuvenated because he was a backup for the Bills, never made the team or was on the practice squad, and then went to NFL Europe and became good, and then came back and started playing for the Phoenix Cardinals.

That's awesome. Yeah, good for Stan.
Yeah, I agree with you, though. Saints,

I don't know. You can't take the Bills in this game, right?

You could.

The Bills are really, really good. I understand.

15.5 point spread is crazy.

I'm going to bet on the Saints. I'm not doing it for

normal reasons where I'm like, oh, I think Spencer Rattler is going to be better than you might think, or I think Kamara is going to have a great game.

I'm firmly labeling this as a, do you have any pride game? Yeah. For the Saints.

Gut check. I'm betting on Brandon Cooks.
I'm betting on DeMario Davis, who's Damara. Yeah.
Demario Davis has been in the league for 13 years, scraping by, a gritty dude.

There are some people that are very embarrassed about what happened last week that play on the Saints. I feel like they're going to keep it closer.
I could be wrong. Maybe they've quit, but

this is my last stand for the Saints. Yeah.

If they don't cover in this one, done.

That's a completely fair thing to do. Yeah.
I just, 15 and a half is, yeah, it's so many points. Hank, you think it's going to be, you think they're actually going to do it?

We're getting to that point of the season where we're, you know, one of these games is going to be, you know, the Raiders-Ravens last year.

Was it Browns-Packers Packers last week possibly could have been could have been but we also were we were high in the Saints last week it'd be funny if we were a week early yeah okay um all right next up we have the Browns and the Lions here's another one for you Browns and Lions the Lions are 10-point favorites these guys have a trophy by the way they play for it in the preseason the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald trophy I don't know if it will be up for grabs in the regular season I just love that they have a trophy between them that's good it is like big 10 Ten territory.

Yeah. So yeah,

let's get a.

Is it a ship? It's a ship. Okay.
I like it. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. If you want to pull it up, pull up the Browns Lions preseason trophy.
It's pretty cool.

It's actually like a ship with two helmets on it, and it looks kind of cool. I wonder where it sits.
I think they might have.

It's the Great Lakes Classic trophy. They have to play with it.

Just use Google. Oh, yeah.
That's nice. Oh, there it is.
That's Great Lakes Classic. Yeah.

So whoever wins, do they get possession of the edmund fitzgerald which is underneath the leaves well i've heard that it's only been in the preseason but maybe should what it should just be a trophy of the edmund fitzgerald

what is

it's the ship

that's not that

was bigger than that that's a pretty big ship no dude that

that's his size

edmund fitzgerald was a lot a lot a lot wider are you talking about are you saying

are you saying what is that a ship for ants

i'm saying that fitzgerald was like a much much bigger ship. How do you know how big that ship is? That's a trophy.
That's a trophy. Look up the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Yeah, but are you saying like those helmets are bigger than the ship? So

see?

See how much bigger it is? No, that's exactly the same.

How can you tell? Look where the beginning and the end of the ship is. There's just like a little bit in between.
All right, longer? You mean it's a longer ship? It's a lot longer.

Yeah, it should be longer. Yes, okay.
This is an insane hill to die on. Yeah, it's not a hill to die on.
That's just not the Edmund Fitzgerald.

It is, but there's two huge helmets on it, so it's got distorts. It should be.

My point was, it should be. It'd be nice.
Nice touch.

All right. I'm glad we talked that one through.
Yeah, that was a good talk through.

So, yeah, they have a trophy. That's pretty cool.
They have a trophy.

They usually play every preseason. The Great Lakes Classic began in 2002 and was one of the preseason games for both clubs.

The winner of the annual contest received a very large trophy, whoa, very large, called the Great Lakes Freighter Trophy. This award was nicknamed The Barge by many beat writers.

The Battle of the Barge, that's a cool name.

So, yeah, I don't know if they do it for a regular season. It would be kind of cool, though.

Are we on Flacco Watch this week? Possibly. I think we might.
The offense hasn't been great. They've only had six drives of over 50 yards this season.
Yeah. The Lions have 15 of those.
Oof.

Yeah.

Cleveland's offense sputtering. They might have a running game, though.
Yeah. Might have found their answer in that.
Maybe.

How long do you think that the Browns can go having an elite defense and a bad offense until their defense starts to just collapse?

Probably.

It just depends on how far away they become from 500. I think if you're like four games away from 500, that's when it starts to collapse.
Yeah. So if they can stay like

they lose this week, then they, you know, two and two and four,

you know, somewhere around there.

As soon as they dip to like the two and five, two, or one in five range, I think that's when it falls apart. We should also be talking, I know we mentioned Mason Graham last week.
Yeah.

When we were talking about

the Browns, we should be talking about Carson Schlesinger. Yeah.

Is it Schlesinger? Yeah. How do you say that?

Schlesinger? Yeah, the Browns nailed their draft. Yeah, on the defensive side of stuff.

Except for what they did with quarterback was weird, but they should get more credit for what they did in the early part of their draft.

Yeah, the the Cleveland Browns have a championship defense right now. Yeah, I would agree.

By the way, I just looked it up. The last time

the barge was played for was 2014. Bring it back.
Yeah. So both sides say it's dead.
Bring it back. I agree, though.
The Browns have a championship defense. They just, that's got to be frustrating.

The Browns should do the Harbaugh thing where they show up with a trophy, but they don't tell the other team that it's a trophy game until they win. And then they're like, we won the trophy.

And if they lose, it was never a trophy game. Yeah.

I do like the wrinkle this week of also Cleveland and Detroit being in a pennant race. Yeah.
So you get a little bit of both. And Ohio State, Michigan.
Yeah. These two states don't like each other.

They do not like each other.

Here's a stat for you. If you're thinking, oh, 10 points is a lot of points.
I don't really want to do it.

Under Dan Campbell, Detroit is 22 and 6 against the spread in their next game after a 6-plus point win. And they're 19-5 against the spread after a 7-plus-point win.

So when Detroit starts to get rolling, they kind of stay rolling. It's not one of those situations.
Oh, they just blew out.

You know, they beat the Ravens by two touchdowns, or I guess it was only eight points at the end.

They can stay rolling. Yep.

I would also trust Dan Campbell to be a guy that doesn't really let short rest affect you. I have no numbers to back that up.

So I don't know what that actual stat is, but he strikes me as a guy that's just like, we're going to drink more coffee.

And he said it in that press conference, I think it was Tuesday, where he's like, our best players practice the hardest, and that's how you get culture.

He's like, our best players are the ones that are working harder than anyone else. And that's how you have a situation where everyone buys in.

Okay, Panthers at Patriots. Hank.

Patriots are minus four and a half. Over-under is 42.5.
Is Tet injured? I believe he is. I think so.
So he missed practice on Wednesday.

I don't know who the Panthers are going to throw it to. Hunter Infro.
Who just had a baby? Just had a baby. Yeah.
The Hunter Infro baby bump. I think he's only three to one, or maybe like plus 265.

I bet him nonetheless. I feel like that's been a bet that's been profitable for us.
Yes, Hank. What happened? Nothing.
What happened? You share with the class. Memes, live memes, and made no sense.

What was the live meme? Is it just you on the barge? The Edmund Fitzgerald?

Yeah, that does make no sense.

Yeah, no, no, it makes sense. It's Hank as Zoolander.
Yeah. And he's next to the trophy, like he's saying, what is this? A trophy.
A cool France or a trophy France. Yeah.

That wasn't the argument, though.

No, that wasn't the argument. But still, cool meme.

I thought it was a good meme. Do you ever, are you ever able to turn it off?

No.

Do you get in fights with like, you know, a friend or family member or something and then like live meme or like trying not to laugh because you're like thinking in meme?

Not that I can remember, but now that you say it,

I think I do. Yeah.
Sometimes I just scroll part of my takes Twitter on like a college football Saturday just to like look up a specific play, and I'll just, I just go by four pictures of my face

on random fans that I've never seen before, but I'm looking for something else. It's like, oh, there's another one.
Yeah, do you mentally put Max's face on people that you meet in real life?

Definitely.

That's why meeting his brothers was so fucked up. Yeah.
Because it was just like, it's already a face swap.

Yeah, memes, I had dinner with my friend last night who was the one who was like, hey, watch out for memes. And he mentioned, he's like, hey, I'm happy you're taking that seriously.

He's like, I'm happy that you're taking it seriously to watch out for memes. I heard you say it on the shows.
He's like, thank you for, we want to keep you safe.

I was like, yeah, memes is a wild card.

Yeah, this guy's got to watch out.

I'll give you his number and his address. You can go show up at his house, meme him to face swap him.
Yeah.

Hank, what are you thinking about this game?

Mushwin. Excited.
Should be a, feels like a get-right game. Should be a get-right game.

I'm excited. Okay.
All right. That's good.
I'm excited. You're excited.
Have you heard any news this week?

About a player on the Patriots?

Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs, yeah.
What are your thoughts on the Stefan Diggs news?

It's a clip from a podcast. There's really no, it hasn't been verified.
I don't like how you said podcast right there. We're on a podcast.
Yeah, but you literal podcast. Yeah.
Yeah, well, yeah.

People say dumb shit on podcasts all the time with no truth to them. So, yeah, I'm not going to listen to some random podcast or say some bullshit and be like, that's a fact.

But couldn't somebody that's listening to you right now say that exact same thing?

And they should. Okay.

We've proven that time and time again. By the way, him and Cardi B have a lot in common.

Yeah.

They do. Like, you want some of these? Allegedly.
Allegedly. No, allegedly.
No. Allegedly.
They're a happy couple that's about to have a B. I'm saying they get along really well.
Yeah, they do.

Beautiful couple. Have a lot in common.
Do you want some of these Skittles?

PFT,

when we did Pick'em this week, Hank was trying to get me to... He was trying to get me with the word weird.
Okay. Because he refuses to say the Tom Brady thing is weird.

So he's just like, oh, that's weird. That's weird.
No, no, no. No, what was the...

And then I just said, I said to Dave, I said, would you say. Oh, it's about Lane Kiffen.
You're like, well, Lane Kiffen's probably getting all the plays from LSU. And I was like, that's weird.

Kind of weird. No, that doesn't work.
But okay. By the way, I was right that Lane Kiffen, that was all publicity, son, and it's not a big deal.

But it's kind of weird that he is talking to another player about their plays and stuff.

Oh, no, I don't think that's weird because it's his daughter's boyfriend. Conflict of interest.
Okay. Either way,

I do think it's weird that he tweeted multiple times, take the over. That's still weird to me.
I'm going to take the under.

I think he's trying to get everyone to go the misdirection. I just simply asked Dave, do you think the Tom Brady thing being in the booth and then calling games is weird? Dave said, yes, absolutely.

Yeah, it's weird. It's very easy for him.
So easy. We can all admit it.
Although Brady did say that the people who are saying that it's a problem, they're being paranoid.

We didn't say it was a problem. We said it was weird.

That's totally different. Confirmed weird.
Confirmed weird. So wait, this game, you got to win? Got to win.
Are you going to win? Definitely. Christian Gonzalez, playing or no?

Probably not, but he's been practicing. I feel like they're not going to rush him back.
Okay. Maybe play a couple snaps.
He's been practicing the last couple weeks.

So within the next couple weeks, I expect him to be back. I don't think it'll be this week.
Okay. We'll see.
He's really good. He's great.
Are you worried? Worried about what? About his injury.

No, he's been practicing. Okay.
Cool. I think he's going to be, you know,

I agree. If you have a star player who's just a little banged up, they're still practicing, they might not play.

And your team is not having expectations of Supi, and you're not coming off a championship.

You clearly said that the Patriots would be the best team on this podcast.

Fair counterpoint. Really Really fair counterpoint.
But we're not coming off a championship, a conference championship season. We just had a documentary called The Dynasty.

What does that have to do with anything?

What if the fucking Redskins came out with a documentary? Yeah, that was a worse counterpoint.

I wanted to say it too.

You had him. Yeah,

I was close. Then you just lost it there.

Yeah, if this was like three years ago, that would have been a really great point. Any of the players, like the player, the the only player that's around from then is the coach.
Yeah. Yeah, it's true.

Yeah.

Okay. Next up, Chargers, Giants.
What did you say? And McDaniels, I guess.

Chargers, Giants, Giants plus six. Jackson Dart time.
Let's go.

I think you guys obviously saw the story that Eli Manning told. I think it was on the Manning cast.
He didn't tell it to us. That was too unfortunate.

That he texted Jackson Dart and was like, hey, if you need anything, let me know. And then Jackson Dart, like a week later, was like, hey, I need a reservation at Fort Charles.

Yeah.

I think there's never been a story that has more pressure on it because it's either like if Jackson Dart is really good, that would be like, man, he has so much swag. Like, he was so confident.

And if he's bad, it's be like, yeah, no, no shit. We should have known.
Eli Manning said he'd give him help and all he wanted was a fucking burger reservation. Yeah.

That story has got some big-time weight to it. It's got some implications.
I think it's got a bad look, no matter what. I think it's a bad look, but you see what I'm saying?

Like, Jackson Dart goes on to have an incredible career. It's like, dude, he had so much swag.
He's like, I got this. All I need is a reservation.
I look at that like he's a fucking idiot.

Oh, yeah, definitely. Right now, for sure.

And that will be like the sign we should have known. I don't think anything about that is swag, though.
Oh, if he's cockiness. Yeah, if he's awesome.
But I don't think he did that out of cockiness.

I think that.

There had to be someone else he's run into in his life that's like, I can get you a fucking reservation. It's crazy to be like,

like there, like in a similar situation, if Dave was like, if you need anything, let me know.

And I needed a reservation somewhere. It's like, I know Dave can get me a reservation there, but there's got to be someone else first.

No, that would be if you were first, if you were like just hired by Dave and he said that. It's kind of like the thing we're talking about with Kyler Murray with the Mike Vicks jersey.

It's like, it makes me question his decision making. Yeah.
Because what he should have done,

let's say you really wanted this reservation, and for argument's sake, it's not at a burger restaurant, it's at like a top-tier steakhouse or something like that.

It's both.

I mean, it's hard, it's like one of the hardest reservations. All right, so, but what he should have done is I got one from Jersey Jerry, though, by the way.
What he should have, yeah, something

yeah, I know that's something to put into perspective. I mean, if you got a Jerry on the team, that's the guy that you would go to, but Jerry's not your boss, correct, right?

Jersey Jerry's not fucking Eli Manny, he's not

breaking news, Breaking

not fucking Eli Manning. Put that on a pro card.

All right, so what he should have done is he should have asked Eli Manning for one piece of bullshit advice right before he asked for the reservation.

Like, hey, when you're calling an audible, which linebacker do you look at first?

Something easy like that that he didn't even need help with. Yeah.
And then you're like, oh, cool. Thanks, man.
Hey, by the way, you ever been to this place? I can't get a reservation. Yeah.

Then Eli would be probably, okay. I'm just saying, like, there's a a 95% chance this story looks bad.

But if he, like, goes on to have an amazing career, you can spin it as he knew he was good. Like, the biggest worry he had being in the NFL was, can he get a reservation? Yeah.
Are you worried?

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It was like, he didn't need Eli Manning for any type of advice.

Are you worried about the fact that when he was drafted, very first phone call, him and Dable both ended with love use?

This is a little early for love. It's a little early.

He should have asked Dable for the reservation. Yeah.

Yeah. Way more of a food guy.
Even that would be off.

Yeah, but Dable

Media got yes. There's got to be somebody there.
Ask someone

on the team. Or they just call and say, hey, I'm Jackson Dart.
Yeah. Yeah.
They probably would just say, okay. Hey, I'm Jackson Dart.
I just got drafted number one in the first round.

Can I get a reservation?

I do actually like the Giants in this game because I do think he's going to add a little pop. You can't be worse than, I mean, going from Russell Wilson to Jackson Dart, like Russell Wilson

was hard to watch. I think at least guys will play a little bit harder.
Yeah,

they know that there's more on their plate. Malik Neighbors, I love this.

He's the top of my list of number one receivers because he said Malik Neighbors, when asked what he learned from the Giants changing QBs last year, they're going to find a way to get number one the ball.

Yeah. That's it.
So he's going to do that again. Got to find a way to get number one the ball.
And Dart looked really good in the preseason, too. So they're excited.
Give the ball to Scataboo a lot.

America wants that. We want to see that angry dude running people over.
And they also very smartly signed Young Way Ku. Yes.

So they've got a backup kicker situation in New York because Graham Gnow, who's Scottish, by the way, and the Giants, they used to have Tynes. They just love having Scottish kickers for some reason.

Gnow has gotten hurt twice in pregame warm-ups in the last two years.

And it hasn't worked out well for him either time. So now they have two kickers on the roster in case case Graham Gannot gets injured again.

Stop warming up.

Or just maybe it might be time to get a new kicker. Yeah.

So Andrew Thomas being back for a full game. I know he played against the Chiefs, but it feels like this will, he'll be able to play the whole game.
Last time the Giants beat the Chargers.

Can you guys name the quarterbacks? Both recurring guests.

Draft night when Eli Giants beat on the Chargers. Both recurring guests.

What does that mean? Jim Harbaugh.

Last time the Giants beat the Chargers. Are you asking for the quarterbacks? Yeah, quarterbacks.
Recurring guests. Eli Manning? Both recurring guests.
No.

Jim Harbaugh? No. Kurt Warner.
No.

Chargers? Danny Connell over Ryan Lee.

That's a fun one, right? That is fun.

You would have kept on going down the list. Yeah.
I don't think we have Chargers.

I just saw it and I was like, oh, we've got to get out of here. We haven't had any Chargers quarterbacks on, I guess.
It's literally. Oh, Drew Brees

and Jim Harbaugh. We need to get Philip Rivers on.
Chase Daniel. Chase Daniel.
Daniel. Call.
Yeah. Herbert.
Yeah. We've had a few.
Also,

wasn't

Cannell a big turtleneck guy? He might have been, yeah. I feel like he might have been.
We need to watch. I think he's become a turtleneck guy.

But for some reason, I thought I remembered a clip of him playing in a turtle. Maybe.
That's interesting. Yeah.

It might be a system guy. Okay.
And that was the last time the Giants beat the Chargers. Maybe the Giants will beat the Chargers again.
Yeah.

Also, this is

Brian Dable's seventh starting quarterback he's throwing out there. Here are the six that previously, none of them are over 500.

Tommy DeVito, Tarod Taylor, Daniel Jones, Drew Locke, Davis Webb, Russell Wilson. Yuck.
I've forgotten about the Davis Webb era. Jackson Dart, you need to save Brian Dable.
Yeah.

Like this, that is a tough, tough list. That's why I'm thinking he could ask Dable for a reservation.
Yeah. Dable doesn't really have a reason to say no.

He has to say yes to everything that Dart wants. You should ask Tommy DeVito for a reservation.
Oh, yeah. Tommy's he is the res guy.
Yeah. All right.

Next up, I do kind of like the Giants in this game. I think they're going to get a little pop from Jackson Dart.
I might stay away from it. I might just bet on Scatterbooth's score touchdown.

I like that.

Next up, Booth Battle. Eagles at Bucks.
Bucks minus three and a half.

Over-under is,

was it 43.5 still?

Let's find it. 43.5.
Are you guys, Zach, you're going to watch in the cave with us?

I can do it so you, sir. I would like you to be in the cave.
I think maybe max in between

you and Stephen Shea. I like that.
All of my anger will be directed towards Stephen Che. Well, yeah.
This is a big one for you. You hate the Bucs.
The Bucs. So the Bucs, I saw the stat.

Nick Siriani, I think, is one and four against the Bucs. The only interesting part of that, though, is A.J.
Brown did not play in all four losses, and he played in the win. Hmm.

So he looked pretty good. I've been on three of the four losses.
He looked pretty good last week. He did look pretty good.
He looked pretty good. Yeah.

I don't think, what's his name? Desmond Watson? I don't think he's going to play, right? I don't believe so either, but I know he picked him up. It's going to feel like 103 degrees on the field.

Are you scared of the sun?

Me? Oh, me personally, for sure.

I would be very scared of playing in that sun, but

I'm not on the Eagles. That's true.

Do you think they're afraid of the sun? They could be. Nah.

Zach, do the Bucks do anything with their sidelines like the Dolphins do, where it's like the visitors that are always in the sun, home team in the shade?

At the Bucks Stadium, no matter where you sit, it feels like you're in the sun.

There's not much shade there.

I know scientifically there's probably some shade, but it feels like no shade whatsoever.

It's going to be hot. Very hot.
It's going to be real hot. I'm excited to watch this game.
I am too. I'm a little bit worried.

We have a bicep. Pop-up.
Baker had a limited practice yesterday with a right-arm bicep, so hopefully he works that out.

Well, you don't want him to work it out.

Yeah, wrong choice of words there. Hopefully he gets better.
Yeah, you don't want him doing curls with the hurt bicep. I'd be a little concerned for the Bucs and their offensive line.

Trisha Wurps might be back. The Eagles' defense is also all of a sudden hurt as well.
Yeah, what happened? Did the Eagles just get everyone injured in practice on Wednesday or whatever?

Apparently, they just played through the injuries last

week. Nolan Smith, I guess, strained his tricep, and he's out for the next five weeks.
Okay.

Jihad Campbell didn't play, has been practicing, and Zach Bond's been limited.

I have a question for you because I don't know the answer to this.

CD Deuce, CJ Gardner Johnson. Yeah.
So you guys traded him away. Correct.
Then you put the guy that you got on practice squad, right? Yep. And then the Texans just cut CeeDee Deuce.
Correct.

Do you want him back in Philly? And follow-up, is he allowed to play for

the Eagles because he hasn't played enough games for another team? Yeah, he's not allowed. We're not allowed to pick him back up.
Okay. I would take him, but

also like Makuba. He strikes me as a guy that is a great dude to have on your team and not going up against you, but only if your team's winning.

Like if your team's bad and you have CeeDee Deuce, then there's going to be problems. It's almost like you're doing a parlay.
You're getting C Deuce and also betting on us to win.

Does that make sense? That makes a lot of sense. Yeah.

I don't hate that logic at all. The Texans really weren't doing too much of that.
No. No.

All right, you're feeling like a win, Max?

I don't know.

The Bucs games are always so weird.

I think we're the better team. I guess

we're both not healthy, so that's going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

I don't know.

This team just finds a way to win.

I think they're the better team. So, Mike Evans is out

with the hamstring for a couple weeks now. Yeah.
Right. And then Abuka is also banged up.
But Godwin is back, right? Godwin's back.

Maybe not 100%. So Quinyon on Godwin? I guess.
Yeah. Yeah, Godwin and Wurfs both practiced without any restrictions on Wednesday.
Okay. So that would be a big boost to the Bucs.

Yeah, maybe playoff preview. Hmm.
Must win?

Every game's a must-win.

I was reading more about that Todd Bowles nerd. That's a scary thing.
Todd Bowles has a nerd now. Yeah.
Like, it's totally.

He has the confidence. Like, I've actually watched a couple of Todd Bowles press conferences.
It feels like he's a different guy. It feels like he has confidence that he's never had before.

Yeah, that's what we said after he was like making jokes about making out with his tight end because he's got a guy that is handling all the

complicated stuff. We were going to say, Zach.
Todd Bowles historically gives us no emotion, no anything on the sidelines, or and very limited in press conferences.

He's like waking up,

joking around, sidelines, kind of giving us

giving us how he's feeling, wearing emotions. It's great.
I love to see it. I think numbers were just weighing him down that much.
He was thinking too hard all the time.

And it's the added benefit of sneaking a couple wins here and there. Right.
And games that they might have lost. All right.

Next up,

excited for the. Did you hear memes say three? What?

You said numbers in that sentence. Do Do I get it? Memes.
No. It's

just what's going on.

Do I get it? No, you don't get it. Why? But you said it's not.

It's not the end of the show. It's not the end of the show, memes.
But you said it. It's the first.

I've said numbers before. It's the first numbers that he says after he introduces the lottery ball.
Yeah, and I say, all right, guys,

time for

the N-word.

Memes thinks about the N-word more than anyone on the show. Yeah.
That's a fact. Disgusting.
You are always thinking about the N-word.

I am, and you just said it.

All right. Titans and Texans.

I'm done with

the Titans. Done with them.
So I'm going to take the Texans, but I'm done with the Titans. I don't.

This game is not exciting to me whatsoever. Yeah, so Callahan is no longer calling the plays.
Yeah. So he gave it to their offensive coordinator.
Yeah.

And that was the guy that was calling, Bo Hardigree is his name. He was was the guy that was calling plays for the Raiders after they fired Antonio Pierce.

And he's the guy that essentially embarrassed Brandon Staley so much that he got fired too. Yeah.
To his play calling. So

they, I don't know, I don't know what to think. Like, Callahan, he was calling plays and he's an offensive guy.
And then they asked him, Do you have any regrets or anything that you did wrong?

And he's like, no, that's not why I'm making this choice. And they're like, well, why are you? He's like, well, I'm the head coach.
So I got to start head coaching.

So he kind of like is taking on the role of a CEO

in a company that is failing

because he was leading the, I don't really understand what's going on, but it's not good. Not good signs for California.
Not good. And

I was looking at the numbers, the drill tweet of like, can someone help me with my budget?

You know, $100 on wings, $50 on pizzas, and the Titans are 2-14 against the spread in their last 16 games. I just, I have to quit.
I have to stop. You know what it was?

Somebody on the Titans last year said like teams don't want to play us. Yeah.
And then I was like, oh, they're still fighting.

Well, they had like, they, they had, like a, it's, it's partially in my brain, the Vrabel Titans who always would, you know, win games they weren't supposed to win or keep games close.

Their defense isn't so, so bad, but man, they always just find a way to lose games. And I'm, so I'm done with the Titans.
You know what the last team was that started off 0-3 and made the playoffs?

It was the Texans, right? It was the Texans Texans in 2018. That was my pinky team.
That was a pinky team, yeah. That was my pinky team that year.
So they might be able to run it back.

11-5 at the end of that year. All right.
Afternoon games, Colts at Rams. Rams minus 3.5, over under 49.5.

Jerry O'Connell went on Matthew Stafford and Kelly Stafford's podcast.

Actually, it's Kelly Stafford's podcast, but Matthew Stafford was also on it. I thought he did it.
I skimmed around. I thought he did a good job.
He mentioned us a couple times.

But you can listen to a guy on a podcast, and he's probably saying some bullshit. Yeah.

Right?

definitely i basically just did a little quick peruse to make sure that he at least said our names he was thinking about us the whole time he was i hope so yeah which is that's that's good to know yeah uh

danny dimes are we gonna make like the entire narrative out of the colts and daniel jones based on how this game goes so like if they lose Are we gonna be like, yeah, they're a good team. Fun story.

Not elite. And if they beat the Rams, are we going to be like Super Bowl? Depends.
So, we have one question for the quarterback coming up with Daniel Jones. I would say depends on what it looks like.

Like, in terms of, give me a score and I'll tell you where I'm going to go with the narrative. 30-20 Rams.

Was the score 30-13 before? Like, what was the lead up to 30-20?

It was

27

to 17.

Okay.

They traded field goals. They traded field goals, yeah.
But it was in the third quarter, and then in the fourth quarter, no touchdowns. Colts scored.
Colts could still be good. Okay.

Because

we should think about that ahead of time. Okay.
What if it's 17 to 3 Rams?

Colts think. Okay, done.
Throw them out. Done.
Frauds. Yep.
Frauds. They're fraudulent.
Okay. What about

21

to 20

Colts win,

but they win in like a very weird last-second,

like a punt return. Ride the wave.
Okay. Team of Destiny.
Yeah. That might be a good one.
Ride the wave. Okay.
Keep rolling with them. What if it's like Rams?

I like this. This is a fun game.
Just do every possible. Hypothetical scores and what we're going to say on Sunday night.
Rays. He's doing Sunday's podcast now.
Rams 31,

Colts 26, but the Colts were covering the entire game. And the Rams, like, do something.
Kicked a field goal

at the end of cover. I respect the Colts.
I feel like they're right there. Yeah.
Yeah.

Give me one more.

Colts 41-14.

Oh, my God. Fire McFee.
Best ever. Yeah, best team ever.
No, I think that would almost switch. Now we're like, what's wrong with the Rams? Yeah.
It becomes more of that. Did the Eagles break the Rams?

Yep. Yep.
That absolutely will be the conversation. Get ready for some clock struck midnight takes.
Yeah.

If the Colts lose and they lose by like 10 points or more. Yeah.
Clock struck midnight. I'd agree.
I don't think, I think they got some room. He's built, he's given himself

a little bit of room. 14 plus is when we're like, oh, this team, oh, look who they beat.
Yeah. Did you hear that Daniel Jones is frequently late for dinner? No.
That's like his thing.

You can literally call him late for dinner. You can.
Yeah. In the athletic, they said

he's never on time for dinner. Pittman is used to it.
He expects it. When the players meet up for the weekly meal on Thursdays, he's always tardy.

Every single single time he's like, yeah, I'm on the way. I just had to break down these last couple plays.
And I'm like, bro, take a break. But that's just who he is.
Oh, so he's late for dinner.

Not as like a rude thing. It's more he just loves ball.
Because he's grinding film. He's got to grind film.

Okay, that's not that bad. Like, I've heard all the first one in, last one out.
I've heard that, but I've never heard, oh, he's the last one in, but it's a good thing. He's late for dinner, yeah.

Because he was too busy being the last one out to be the first one in for dinner. Yeah.
Yeah. Also, fun fact, Daniel Jones earns $100,000 for every Colts win this year that he plays 50% of the snaps.

That's got to be awesome. That is cool.
Just like

slush fund money. Yeah.

Oh, that's a win. Cool.
Just going to take that $100,000.

Have some fun with it. Also, last week with the Rams losing to the Eagles, they have failed the bird gauntlet.
Say it again?

They have failed the bird gauntlet. Oh, yeah.
There will be no team that defeats all the bird teams this year. That is brutal.
Yep. Fucking block kick.

All right. Jaguars at 49ers.

Jaguars are three and a half point underdogs. I kind of like the Jags.
I kind of like the Jags. They got to figure out how to catch the ball.
That's a big piece of it.

But I kind of like the Jags. Yeah.
I mean, it sucks for the Niners not having Bosa now, and they're all banged up outside of Bosa. I feel like

Brian Thomas has to come out of the Yips.

Or maybe the answer is just give the ball to Travis Hunter more.

Yeah, maybe it is. Because when they drafted him, they're like, this is a man that will change the entire sport of football.
Yeah. Football looks just about the same.

This is, we talk about this frequently during the season, but this is an all-time, can't remember anything about these teams playing. Yeah.
49ers, Jaguars. It's weird because

I do remember Mac Jones playing on the Jaguars.

I do remember

against the 49ers? No, no, no. I remember Mac Jones playing

for the Jaguars.

I remember they had another bag playing Gabbert, right? Yeah. Wasn't he? Played on the 49ers and the Jaguars.
And the Jaguars. But yeah, I don't recall them ever playing each other.

The Jaguars have not beaten the Niners since 2005.

They've played five times since then,

and they have been outscored 170 to 59.

Also, weird stat. The 49ers are the only team in the NFL with zero rushing TDs through three weeks.
That's crazy. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I did not know that.
That's nuts.

Is Mac Jones going to play or is Brock Purdy? I believe it's going to be...

I don't know. Let's look it up.
Let's look it up. I think it's Mac Jones.
I think it's Mac Jones.

Because they said that Purdy was going to be out for like four to five weeks. Also, like, Mac Jones already won two starts.
You kind of have a free roll here. Like, you can just go with...

He can lose one. If I'm Mac Jones, I fake an injury right now.
Yeah. Looks to be on a very good track to return for Sunday, so Hank, you're wrong.
He's Brock Purdy. Damn.
Yeah. Yeah.

If I'm Mac Jones, I'm like, I think I got turf toe too.

Please shut me down. I just made myself a lot of money potentially.
Yeah. Yeah.

Okay.

Bears at Raiders

must win for the Bears. Absolute must win.
You win a gateway game to then get the privilege of playing in a must-win. And that's what they're playing in this week.
Okay. It's a must-win.

Have to win this game. Are you distrustful and paranoid of Tom Brady?

Not really. It's weird, but not really.

Okay. Yeah.
It is weird. Yeah.

This ticket, by the way, is like, I think there should be a lot of Bears fans in the crowd. Our guy Eddie is DJing a strip club.

What a flyer. I love that.
What a flyer. Peppermint hippo, which is rivals to the Spearmint Rhino.
Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah.
Spearman Rhino is a great place. Yeah.

So, yeah, I don't know. This is going to be an interesting game to see if they can stack.

I feel like the Raiders are bad, but they're going to break out of it, and they could break out of it against a Bears defense that is not healthy and not good. Yeah.

Did you know that the Bears had the longest touchdown drive in the NFL this year? Was that, did the Lions not beat it? No, well, not in terms of, I don't know what the yardage difference is.

Oh, plays?

19 plays. Yeah, it was an incredible drive.

That was the man football drive. Yeah, it was pretty great.
I also saw that they had Max Crosby rated as a 0% win rate in pass rush situations on Pro Football Focus from last week.

I don't understand any of those those numbers. I don't understand.

All I can tell you is that if that's the metric that you're using to evaluate a player, you need to tweak that metric because Crosby was awesome last week. Yeah.

We also are the streak, the streak continues.

The NFC offensive player of the week through three weeks has been in a Chicago Bears game. So Caleb Williams won it week three.
Jared Goff week two. J.J.
McCarthy week one. Okay.

So that's kind of cool streak. We'll see if it continues.
I love that. Did you know that the under is eight and two in the Bears' last 10 road games?

Yeah, we don't. I mean,

it's a new team. Yeah, it's a new team.

It's actually not under.

Yeah, it's also. Well, he said road games because it's 1-0 this year.

Okay, fair. My bad, my bad, my bad.

The

over is 1-0 on the road this year. Yeah, I do agree with Hank, though.

You can't base this Bears off those Bears. No, you did.

Yeah.

Well, no,

I didn't. I said.
He did, but he can't. I didn't.
I said the stat. We all do stuff we can't do.
The stat did. Yeah.
But you can't. You can't.
Factor fiction, the number is 8-2.

Fact

asterisk. Yeah.
Well, we just did the asterisk. Yeah.

Factorisk. Last year, they were 8-1 to the under on the road.
This year, they're 1-0 to the over on the road. Yep.
Also, the Raiders' defense, not good outside of Max Crosby.

Here are my two biggest concerns in this game.

One is Max Crosby, because our offensive line is not great, or it looked okay against the Cowboys, but there has been some question marks to Braxton Jones.

Darnell Wright has been banged up a little. Two,

I'm a big storyline guy. Remember going into the draft, we thought the Bears were going to draft Ash and Genty.
They didn't.

Ash and Genty's look like trash.

Bears don't have like a stud running back. DeAndre Schiff's been okay, not great.

Ashton Jenny has like an all-time game against the Bears. That would also require their offensive line to be better.
But that's what the issue is.

The Cowboys are running for six yards a pop, so those are my two concerns. So, so last week playing against the Raiders, they didn't really block anybody.
If you send one extra guy,

they're going to be like, I've never seen this before. Good to know.
How am I supposed to stop this extra linebacker? Like, Bobby Wagner's two sacks.

I don't think anybody touched him, neither one of them. So, Dennis Allen, if you're listening to this, please note that.
Mark that down.

Also, sorry for White Sox Dave saying you got tits on the stream. Does he have tits? He's got a little bit of tits.
I think it's the ears that make everything. Ears are the problem.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

All right. So I'm excited for this game.
Must win. I must win.

All right. Game of the week.
Ravens, Chiefs.

Loser leaves town.

I think loser might get hungrier.

Oh, yeah. I think we should put a Super Bowl future on whoever loses this game.
I think whoever loses this game is going to be a problem.

What are the odds right now for the Ravens and the Chiefs in the DraftKings Sportsbook? So right now it's Chiefs plus 2.5, but what are the odds for them to win the Super Bowl?

So right now the Ravens are 6-1, and the Chiefs are what?

14-1. The Ravens having the second best odds still is crazy.
But if they lose this game, they will go to 10-1 or more. They should dip.
Yeah. They should definitely dip.

The worst part of the Ravens is clearly their defense, and especially their running defense.

The Chiefs, like Andy Reid, he will have games where he's just like, I don't care much for running the football. Well, I was just saying, the worst part of the Chiefs is their offense.
Yeah.

And they're, like, the Ravens' defense has looked bad because they played the Bills and the Lions. The Chiefs' offense is nowhere near the Bills and the Lions.
Xavier Worthy, though. Is he back?

He's back. Okay.

That should change something. A little bit, yeah.
That is different. I don't know how healthy his shoulder is going to be if that's something that's going to keep flaring up on him all season.

But yeah,

when the Chiefs have a really, really fast guy out there, they become a fun offense to watch. When they don't have a guy like that, they become a very boring football team.
Yeah.

Like, they've been super boring to watch recently. I feel like Mahomes and Pacheco are buttonheads a little bit.

There were a few plays last week where Pacheco was just turning the wrong way in the backfield.

Didn't know the ball was coming for him.

At least one of those was a fumble that Mahomes then had to recover.

So I don't know if they have an answer at running back because I feel like Pacheco used to be more than a serviceable running back. Yeah.
Right? But things kind of change. Yeah.

I don't know. I kind of want to take the Ravens in this game.
But the Patrick Mahomes. Like, at what point do we have to say there's maybe Patrick Mahomes isn't what he was?

At what point do we have the conversation? What do we have? We're not there yet. We got to see some guys get back.

I think the first step is somebody saying, like, you could make the argument that Patrick Mahomes is a pedestrian quarterback.

Not necessarily making the argument, but saying

one could make the argument. I'm not going to make that argument.
I'm not ready to have that conversation yet. I'm just asking, is there a point in time that we do have that conversation?

I think mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. Okay.
Okay. But also if the Ravens kick the shit out of him, yeah.

Then I'll have that conversation on Sunday. All right.
Ravens 40, Chiefs, 17. Okay, how do we have in that conversation? How many defensive touchdowns did the Ravens have two?

Picks or fumble or cracks? Pick six, and then also Patrick Holmes throwing it backwards. Yeah, let's have the conversation.
Okay. All right.
So there it is.

If that's the score, and those are the things that happen,

conversation will be had on Sunday night. Well, the thing about the Chiefs is there's other conversations that you would have before you got to the Patrick Mahomes conversation.

Like, is it time for Andy Reid to hang it up? Yeah. Is it time for Travis Kelsey to retire?

Is Taylor Swift pregnant? I told you guys this story, but it was our security guards do a great job here. I walked in on Wednesday morning.

Rick, our security guard, like kind of pulled me aside and was just like, hey, you hear about Kelsey? And I was like, what? Because he was actually pronouncing it correctly, Kelsey.

I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, yeah, Chiefs are going to cut him. Yeah.
I was like, what? And then I went and looked and it was just nowhere.

But he just, I think he saw him and Andy Reid fighting and it was like, yeah, he's getting cut. It was probably from one of the overseas Facebook pages.

The click farm. It was such a great moment there where he just, he got me for a second.

And another conversation we would have to have is, oh, the Chiefs aren't so tough when the refs aren't giving them everything. Yeah.

Then you find clips of refs calling penalties against the Chiefs, and then you're like, see, now that they're doing this, they were never a good team. Good point, PFT.
Yeah. Good point.

Okay, last game, Cowboys, Packers, Cowboys plus seven. Real quick, I got one stat about Mahomes.
Give it to me. Actually, it's two stats.
He is five and one all-time against Lamar. Okay.

And he is 11-5 straight up as an underdog in his career. Ooh.

And against the spread, that's 12-3-1 as an underdog. And of those 12, 11, they won straight up.
I had a question for you.

Is that the Mahomes of past or the Mahomes we're about to maybe have a conversation about? Well, so this is probably the Mahomes of Pass because I don't think that any of those

underdog teams were looked at as being maybe just not a very good team at all.

I think those underdog teams were like, oh, maybe you're traveling to Buffalo, and Buffalo is also a very good team.

I'll say this, if the Chiefs lose this game, I think we have to change all stats for pre- and post-conversation and we'll make this the conversation game. Okay.

Yeah, this is a conversation game about Mahomes. Yeah, this is a conversation game.
Hank, you got to be loving this conversation. I've been having this conversation since before the season started.

They got smoked in the Super Bowl and everyone just acted like they're the greatest team of all time.

The way that you just phrase that is a problem because you also admit to them being in the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Yeah, in a weak AFC. All right, so it's not, we're not having the conversation about Mahomes yet.
And the game, like, this is the game that will trigger the conversation.

Like, one way or the other.

If they win, we're going to be like, hey, conversation over. Yep.
We're going to make a decision on the conversation after this game.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, with some of the scenarios, if they lose and it's close, then it's not time for the conversation. Right.
But we will have a definitive answer after this.

Yeah, we will give you your answer on Sunday night. All right, so Packers and Cowboys.
Cowboys plus seven over under 47.5.

I I saw the only thing. I think the Packers are going to kill the Cowboys.
No CeeDee Lamb, obviously. Did you guys see that Micah Parsons was like, yeah, my whole family's going to be there.

Everyone's going to be there. He already had his suite for the year, and he couldn't get a refund.
That sucks. So it's the suite that he was...
Oh, he paid for.

He already paid for his suite in Cowboys Stadium for the year, and he can't get a refund. So he has a suite, so his whole family's going to be there.

It's actually surprising to me that Jerry made him pay for the suite. I know.
That's probably why things went sour. Oh, yeah.
So he offered it to Kenny Clark. I don't think Kenny Clark took it, but

like, for the rest of the season. But how funny is that? Michael Parsons just has a suite at Dallas Stadium.
He's going to be on a mission.

There's not going to be a thank you video that goes up for him. No.

But I feel like every player on the Cowboys is going to be motivated. Yeah, but you're going to.
Can you be motivated to if you suck? You can.

Can you be motivated to be good if you you suck not good okay but you can be motivated to suck but suck harder yeah so give more effort while while you're sucking can you can is mad eberfloose gonna find motivation i don't think that's a guy that you want to give all the effort that he has yeah you don't want a lot of motivation i feel like the less that he says and does probably the better okay yeah i would agree with but yeah if you're if you're the packers there's one guy that's extremely extremely motivated if you're the cowboys it's pretty much the whole team that's motivated to beat that guy.

But good news for the Packers is they lost last week. Right.
And so, yeah,

I think the Packers are going to kill them. I do too.
I think it might be a load-up game for the boys. Yep.
Is that stupid?

Memes and I just hammered the team total over 27.5 for the Packers. I like that.
Because this to me feels like

it might be the squarest bet that any of us make.

I just heard, after everything I just heard. Yeah, it's this especially with it being Sunday night.
Yes, it's 27 have such a good football number.

It's the squarest bet that we can make to load up on the Packers because, yes, Micah Parsons has been wronged by the Cowboys. That narrative is going to be really the story of the game.

And the Packers also looked at as being really good. Cowboys looked at as being really bad.
But I don't give a fuck. It's my square, but I don't give a fuck play.
I like that.

Because it can make you feel, you feel better about it. You're like, hey, I know.
I'm admitting that I'm a square and I'm betting what everyone else is betting. I don't give a fuck.
Yep.

Sometimes squares win. Yep.
It's facts. No CD Lamb.
Oh, but hey, I can already see it.

We're going to be sitting here Sunday night having a conversation about Patrick Mahomes and Hank's going to be pumping his fist while we just like, oh, I can't believe the Cowboys are going to win outright.

You could see it right now. You can close your eyes.
And then I'm going to be mad at myself because it's like, I can't celebrate a Packers win because I loaded up on the Packers.

And Hank's going to be smiling. And we're going to be having a conversation about Patrick Mahomes.

And the Colts are going to not be for real. Team Total's not bad.
Team Total's not bad. Team Total's not bad.
Bears one, though. Oh, okay, so I'm a little happier.
What about the Commanders?

Oh.

This is like Swami's picks. You ahead? USA?

Depends if Jaden plays or not. Okay, he does play.

Then they squeak out a victory. Is he healthy?

You had a

really good chance to figure out what he was doing. I thought you were so funny there.
God damn it.

Comedic timing was missing there.

Bucks Eagles? Bucks. Okay.
Outright. Oh, okay.
So we're going to have a spicy show. And Jets.
And Patriots. Well, Jets are Monday night.
Jets are Monday. Oh.
Yeah.

Which is good because I don't really want to talk about that game.

All right. We got our fantasy minute.
I sent it to you, Max. Jerry's Fantasy Minute.
None of us have watched it. He did a good job last week.
He got a full minute. Oh.

Looks like we got a special guest. Oh, hey.
Hey, now. Oh, what is Jerry doing with his facial hair? I kind of like it.
Is that an for a new role? Yeah. All right.
Here we go. Jerry's Fantasy Minute.

All right, here we go. I got to do a part of my tooth video here.
You ready? Time me. Just one minute.
I don't have a watch. Okay.

In your head. Memes.
Start the music. Okay, stop.

Start the music. Memes.
Hey, what's up, fantasy fuck boys? Going out to lunch with my wife. Zach, this is what you got to do with your Pilates instructor.
He's going to fuck a Pilates instructor.

Okay, Fantasy Minute.

We got got a Jaden Daniels problem. I'm so sorry.
I told everybody to pick up Jaden Daniels. Stream Geno Smith.
He's going to have a good game. Cowboys.
I mean, Chicago defense sucks.

Pick up Hunter Henry. Also, I can't believe I'm saying this.
What world we're living in? Pick up Kyle Pitts.

Everybody can drop Boswell.

Pick up Matt Prater. Matt Prada's going to have a good game.
Good kicker.

Lions defense. Everybody pick him up.
And everybody can drop Travis Hunter. That's it.
You do Pilates, right?

What's a good Pilates move?

Short spine. Short spine.
Do the short spine with the Pilates instructors.

That was great, Jerry. That was one minute.
Perfect. Got a lot of information in that, too.
Yeah.

We will bring back Fantasy Lad Boys when they play in England. Wouldn't feel right doing it in Ireland.
No. All right.
Let's do our TD parlay, which won last week, so I'm going to stay out of it.

Max, PFT, and Hank hit it. We all bet it.
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Boys, what do you got? I love my pick this week. It's Mark Andrews.
Okay.

Touchdown last week. Touchdown.
I like mine as well. I'm going to go Devontae Adams.
Oh. Okay.
DFT. You want to do a night one?

Should I save one for night? Because I got a bear. Oh.
There's a bear that I like. Okay.
No, just let it rip. I thought about a juicy, a juicy bear.
A juicy bear? It's fat bear week.

I thought about it. How big is that bear? I think the Luther Bird was like plus 550.
I was like, that's a juicy bear. But

it's too much. It's a very juicy bear.
My bear's not quite as juicy. That's fine.

A Dunes A. Okay.
Back to the well. Yeah.
That's what I had last week.

Yeah. Yeah.

I don't like the

Raiders' defense. Okay.

Let me pull this up quick. Get us our picks.

Get us our picks.

Plus 145. A Dunes A is plus 145.
Okay.

Andrews is plus 235. Wow, we're going to get juicy again with this one.
Adams is plus 130, giving us

almost an 18-1 parlay right. Oh, that's right.
1787. Hell yes.
All right, boys. I love it.
Okay, let's do our picks. PFT, congratulations.
You've won a game. I did.

Good night.

We are doing our pick contest right now.

It is me, memes, and Zach in first place with four correct picks. So we're all four and two.

Hank and Max both have, or sorry, Hank has three points. Max has two points.
PFT has one point. Who's picking first? I believe it's

Zach.

All right, I would like to take in the Chargers Giants game the Chargers minus six. Okay.

Chargers minus six. First pick.

Go ahead, PFT.

You're up. Okay.

I will go with the Colts and the Rams. I'm going to take under 49.5.

Under 49.5. Colts, Rams.
Yep. Okay.
I am going to go over

in the Bears-Raiders game 47.5.

I am going to go over 48.5 in the Chiefs-Ravens game. Okay.

Oh.

Got him. Got him.
Memes. I'm going to take the Packers minus seven.
Okay.

I'm going to take the Jags plus three and a half against the. Ah, that was mine.

And then.

You jerk. Well, he took mine.

I am going to take.

I had another one.

I had another one. Whoa.
All right. His pick is passed.
Go, memes. What? What does that mean?

I mean, it's taking way too long.

That is never

been a thing ever. Be ready.

That is never. Fuck it.

I'm going to take over 49.5 in Colts Rams. What was your first pick? Jags plus 3.5.
All right.

Vikings Steelers over 40.5. Okay.

I'm taking the Jets. Jets plus 2.5.
Plus 2.5. I'm taking the Vikings minus 2.5.
I'm going to take the Broncos.

That was my other one. Yeah.
Broncos.

Minus 7.5.

Over the Bengals.

I would like to take the Titans, Texans game over 38.5. Ooh, I like it.
It's gross.

That's so gross. But I like it.
Yeah, it's a good one. Zach, can you walk me through how they get there?

If you envision it. To envision that

amount of points hitting, I think we're just, I think we're throwing bombs. I would like to see.
It's just, that's fun football. I would like to see

high aerial throws to the end zone. Okay.
Guys coming down with them. No booth reviews.
Okay.

Nico Collins, like four touchdowns.

Let's spread the ball around a little bit. Okay.
Okay.

All right. Good job, boys.
Let's get to our interviews. We're going to do Daniel Jones, one question with the quarterback, and then we are going to go with Shane Bacon, talking some Ryder Cup.

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And now here's Daniel Jones.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest for one question with the quarterback. It is Daniel Jones, the best quarterback quarterback in Colts history as of right now.

That wasn't my question, but if you want to comment on it, you can.

I'm not going to comment on that. Okay, all right.
Smart. All right.

But incredible start to the season 3-0. I'll start, and then we'll go around the room.
One question with the quarterback, Daniel Jones. Rank

these nicknames and tell us which one you maybe like the backstory between each of them. So you have Indiana Jones, Danny Dimes, and Vanilla Vic.

Wow.

I mean, I guess the Danny Dimes thing, I feel like started like right when I got to New York. I think that was like a Giants Instagram social media people started that.

Indiana Jones just now.

Vanilla Vic, that was, I don't know when that was,

when I tripped or when I fell on the

uh

Monday Night Football, whatever that was. Yeah.

But I don't know, probably Indiana Jones, Vanilla Ville, probably Danny Dines, and then Vanilla Vick. Okay, okay.
Vanilla Vic 3. I don't want to toot my own horn.
I think I came up with Indiana Jones.

I think it was like five minutes after you signed with the Colts. I was like, this just makes sense.
This is going to be too perfect. And

it's a good one. I feel like obviously somebody else was going to come up with it, and everybody would have come up with it.
But it's a good nickname, and I feel like it fits you well.

Appreciate that. Appreciate that.

So, my one question: one time you said real swag is no swag.

Can you define aura?

Aura.

Aura.

Did I say real swag is no swag? That's a quote? I think I'm going to attribute that to you, yeah. Okay.
All right. Thanks.
Yeah. Aura.
I guess it's just like

a vibe, like a sense of... of confident swagger that you give off that people feel.
I mean, that's like a new, that's a new like

kids, I feel like younger generation term, right? Like, are y'all using aura? Is that part of the part of the

vernacular these days? We're not. We're old.
Hank does when he's talking about chasing Tatum.

Okay. Yeah.

I don't know if you came up with real swag is no swag, but I know that people were talking about it with you. I think it was your Duke, your coach a Duke.
Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah, Coach Scuddy used to say that. Yeah.
Coach Cuddy. Okay.
All right. Maybe it was in regards to you.
I think that it's 100% a correct quote. I believe in that 100%.
Yeah.

Real swags, no swag. Hank, you got one? Yeah, Dan.
My question is. Oh, Dan, huh? Daniel, Dan, Daniel, Daniel San.
Which do you prefer? I don't care. I mean, whatever, yeah.

Because I'm a Dan as well, and I feel like

it's interesting to be Daniel.

You don't see a lot of Daniels out there. You see a lot of Dans.
Yeah. How do you feel about Danny? Do you ever get Danny?

I got Danny for like a little bit as like a kid in like Little League, and that didn't stick.

I think there's just, if you become a Danny, you just stay a danny for the rest of your life kind of thing. Yeah.
Yeah.

Yeah. All right.
Go ahead. Oh, yeah.
My question is just this is our colts. This is our colts.

We bleed blue. Yeah.
There we go. Yeah.
It's actually this is our colts is our team. Oh, wow, my man.
Yeah, you screwed it up. Shit.
Y'all had him on the show? Did y'all have

him on the show? No, we need to. No, we should.
He should actually do our theme song. Yeah.
For part of my take.

This is our take.

Have you had him in the locker room? Has he been able to, like, have you seen him, met him pre-game? I haven't met him. I think he performed at one of our preseason games,

but I haven't met him yet. I gotta

meet him. Yeah.
All right, Zach.

Don't blow it. Hello, Dane.
Hope you're doing well today, man.

What's up, Zach? What's going on, man? I got just a quick question.

I was curious, if the other players on your team were to describe you in three words, what three words do you think would most commonly be used or would you hope to be used to best describe you as a teammate?

Wow. Good question.
question.

Wow. We're getting

deep.

Hopefully a good camaraderie.

I think that's a theme on this team. We got good dudes, good camaraderie.

I don't know.

Working hard, ready to go, prepared.

Trying to get going. We shorten camaraderie to rod these days, you know?

Oh, I like that.

We call it good rod. You know, we're talking about good camaraderie on the team.
Okay. Get that rod going.
Yeah, we got to get that rod in here.

I would say tough as well. You're a tough quarterback.
I would say vanilla Vic. Yeah.
Yeah.

All right.

All right, Max.

Hi, Daniel. Max, I know this is one question with a quarterback, but mine's going to be kind of a two-part question, but still one question.
Okay.

I'm an Eagles fan. I love Saquon.
It seems like you guys have a great friendship.

So my first part of my question is, how awesome is Saquon? And the second part of my question is, has he texted you and been like, see, this is pretty awesome to leave the Giants?

Yeah, I mean, I guess,

you know, Saquon's obviously a huge superstar and, you know, one of the best players in the league, if not the best player, but he's just like a very normal dude.

I feel like a lot of people don't realize that, expect him to be some,

you know, different than that. But he's really, you know, just a normal guy.
He's been a great, great friend and, you know, was a really good teammate when we were playing together.

So, yeah, he is he's everything

the Eagles fans probably think he is.

And we've talked. I don't know if he said that directly, but we've definitely stayed in touch here these first few weeks.
Yeah. That's a good answer.
Great answer. Uh-huh.

Yep.

All right, memes.

How you doing, Daniel?

I guess that's a question.

I'm doing good.

I looked up Daniel Jones' fun facts, and it says you used to be a hooper. So my question is, can you still dunk? Can I still dunk? Yeah, I can still dunk.
I can still dunk. Okay.

That's a good question. Good question.
Now, Daniel, you can finish. Do you have a question for us? Question for y'all.
Yeah.

I don't know if I have a question for y'all. The question can also be: do you guys have one more question for me? Yeah,

okay. Uh, I actually have a question for uh, for PFT.
All right, the sun, the sunglasses, is that is that an all-the-time thing?

You're always rocking the shades, or what's uh, that's just part of the aura, I guess, part of the swag? Part of the swag, yeah, yeah, exactly.

You nailed it, yeah, it's good for the rod here.

Yeah, I've got such beautiful eyes that it would be a distraction if somebody were to look into them, so I don't want to take away any of the shine from my boys, build that rod up, you know?

Heck yeah, I love it, I love that, Absolutely.

I won't ask you this question, but we did have Andrew Luck on the podcast. We had Eli Manning on the podcast.
They sat on the couch and they gave us their hard count, and it was awesome to hear.

If you wanted to do a hard count, that would be fine for us. It's not a question.
It's a statement. If you wanted to do a hard count, that'd be awesome.
Okay.

I've heard a lot about Andrew Luck's hard count. I actually saw the clip that y'all had on there.
And

Quentin talks about it a lot. I think his hard count is is

legendary stuff.

I think I saw Eli. What did Eli went through? Like a dummy cadence and a Daytona or something? Yeah, he got us to jump.
Yeah, y'all jumped? Yeah, yeah. What about y'all?

What about y'all's heart count? Have y'all practiced? I mean, Gruden's got to be on there working on y'all. Good question, right?

Good question. Good question.
Here we go. Hey!

Recording! Here we go.

Ha ha!

Hike!

Is that a hike? You threw a hike. Yeah, I threw a hike in there.
I threw a hike in there. When do we stop saying hike? Yeah.

You're like six years old. It would fuck him up at the time.
Because I feel like people, and maybe the hike is the dummy count.

Yeah.

I could throw them off. Yeah, you like that? All right, will you give us yours?

What would I go?

Like a hard three, Kate? Like a hard three. I think Eli did this, but you go.

Like hut, hot, and the second one's hard, and then the next one's pretty quick. So like, said white 80,

hot, hot, hot. Oh, that's good.
That's good.

It's the last one. It's subtle.
It's like a ghost note that pops in there. I like that.
You got that.

By the way, if you want to take a question with you, here's one that you could maybe throw out there.

When you do see Quentin Nelson later today, ask him if Big Cat can chug a beer faster than him because the answer is yes. And I did that at the beer games.

And then I talked so much shit to him and I kept on saying I'm faster than you that I was like, eventually, I think he might just strangle strangle me. He didn't.

He's a cool dude, but I probably pushed it too far. So also maybe throwing an apology for me.
All right, I'll ask him about that. I beat him a few weeks ago, so we might have to match

him sometime. Yeah, all right, winner's bracket.
Love it. I like that.
That was a good question, big cat.

It was like, I don't have a question, but if you want to ask Quentin Nelson a question, ask him the question, but then apologize to him for asking that question. Yeah, right.
Because

it was a moment where I was like, I think he might, I think this might not be funny anymore for him because I walked around literally just walking up to everyone being like, hey, who do you think chugs faster?

Me or Q? And I did that probably about 15 times until the point that he was just like, okay, man, that's probably enough.

And it was. You get it.
It was.

Yeah, it was. Yeah, but he's the man.
All right, Daniel, thank you, man. We really appreciate it.
Best of luck

on Sunday. We're rooting for you.
Incredible start to the season. Let's keep it rolling.
All right. I appreciate it, guys.
Thanks for having me.

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And now, here's Shane Bacon.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He's our good friend, Talking Golf, Golf on CBS show.
It is Shane Bacon. We're getting ready for the Ryder Cup.

As people are listening to this Friday morning, the Ryder Cup has begun.

Shane, let's talk big picture first. Are we going to win the Ryder Cup?

We as Americans, I think Europe's going to win.

But obviously, historically, I think obviously it's going to lean towards the home team. I was doing a little bit of research research for you boys.

The last five Ryder Cups, all won by the home team by an average winning score of six and a half points. Of course, they're only 28 points up for grabs, the whole Ryder Cup.

So it's been kind of blowouts over recent history with the Ryder Cup. And in terms of sporting events, I actually think it's kind of important for the Europeans to win this thing.

I think putting the pressure kind of on the Americans in a couple of years at a dare manner. I mean, the Americans hadn't won a Ryder Cup on European soil since the 90s.

I mean, you're talking 30 years or so since that happened. So I think actually the visiting team winning one of these things that hadn't happened since 2012 would actually be good for Ryder Cups.

Oh, I disagree. It'd be good for Ryder Cups if we did it.
Yeah. It'd be bad if it happened out.
That's kind of what I'm setting it up, though, PFT.

I kind of want it to be set up for that to kind of happen after the Euros win this one. Plus, the Euros are so stacked.

They're bringing back 11 dudes from the winning team a couple of years ago in Rome.

And when you kind of look historically over teams that have brought back basically 11 returning players, one rookie on the team, 85 Europe, they won 89 Europe, retained the cup, 99 U.S.

won, 2012 Europe won. So when you bring back this level of players once again in Ryder Cups, historically, you go on to win the thing.

So right off the bat, we had a schedule switch up at the last minute. So they're doing the opening ceremony on Wednesday.
They're doing it instead of Thursday. That got moved up a little bit.

Does that affect anything at all? Does that affect when they announced the pairings? Does that affect anything about what's going to happen on Friday? Or is that just strictly like a ceremony?

Bring everybody in, say nice things. We're now here to officially kick off the Ryder Cup.
Yeah, just because of weather.

Weather expected to be in and around the area on Thursday, so they can't be outside.

So they just bumped it up a day, you know, tennis shoes on, suits on, ready to rock on Wednesday, and then obviously kind of flow in. And by the way, hot take with the tennis shoes on with the suits.

We need to discuss. What are y'all's thoughts on that?

I had never really thought about it before and then i saw it and i was like yeah the europeans look better than us yeah the no ties and tennis shoes it doesn't look like we're taking it seriously

the europeans take this thing more seriously i mean that's basically what the ryder cup is i had a discussion on the show the other day uh with patrick mcdonald who i do the show with and we were talking about how american media people somebody like myself maybe even one of you guys pft i know you're rooting for for team usa big cat i'm assuming you are as well i feel like hank probably is rooting for Europe.

Hank's rooting for the Europeans, obviously, for the Super Bowl and all that stuff. I mean, that's kind of a Hank thing.

But when you think about American media members, it almost feels like a lot are rooting for the Europeans.

And when you think about the European media at the Ryder Cup, like they are die hard, cry when the Europeans win.

I mean, it is as important to the people in and around these teams as it is the players. So it feels like, you know, I wrote something about this.

You guys had Joe Buck on a couple of weeks ago on the pod, by the way. Great interview.
Love Joe. Thanks.
And he was talking about the production meetings for the Broncos Seahawks Super Bowl.

And remember when he said he met with Peyton in the bus and he was, you know, talking about Broncos football, and then he met with what was the Legion of Boom all together.

And he knew instantaneously it was going to be a bit of a blowout. That's a little how I feel in terms of this wider.
So we got to check them for Adderall. We got to get Victor Hovlin in.

Check that piss out. That's what I'm hearing from you.
So how do we take it more seriously? Like,

is it a cultural thing? Because I was saying that the chance

we get bodied in the chance. When Europe, when it's played out, the USA is a bad chance.
Yeah. But not only just like it's the soccer thing.

They just know how to do like, you know, they'll pick like some 80s power ballad and change one word and it will sound the coolest, the coolest thing ever. Whereas we don't have anything.

We just yell mashed potatoes. What do we have to fix?

kind of goes back to the core of these teams.

And I mean, when you think about the core of the European teams, and it's just continued on, I mean, you know, you go back to, and obviously every golf person is going to bring up Sevi, who was really kind of the face of this to start back, you know, in the 80s and 90s for the Europeans, but it's just followed suit, like the Colin Montgomerys and the Lee Westwoods, and every European kind of buying into the process of this, even the players that maybe weren't the most clutch individual players, Luke Donald, for instance, right?

The captain this year, Ian Poulter, Justin Rose, all of these players have kind of bought into the idea of team.

And it always has felt like the American golfer, whether it be Tiger or Phil or David Duvall, into kind of the modern player, it's very individualized.

I think there was a time Jordan Spieth was very much into this thing.

And I think Justin Thomas is very much into this thing, but you still have kind of the individual markers that kind of float between these events.

I mean, you guys, you know, good buddy Brooks Kepka, who has been probably the best, one or two best major champion golfer over the last decade or so in terms of golf outside of Rory.

He didn't quite buy into what the Wyder Cup was all about.

He'd play decent at it, but it felt like some of the really big superstars on the American side would show up, and it wasn't everything to them. They were playing golf.

It was an event that they had to play. And I also think the President's Cup probably doesn't help.

The fact that the Europeans get a year off in terms of team golf, the Americans have to play in something every single year.

And when you do that, I'm assuming it's a bit exhausting at the end of the season to have to have something every year to have to play in and have to obviously show up for and play decent, or else obviously it's embarrassing for you know your team and your captain yeah that's fair that's that's a fair way to look at it the the specialness of playing team golf for your country it's it's more important to the europeans and i i do agree with what you're saying about the media too i wish our media would get behind team usa in this like we will if it turns out that when we check in on the ryder cup on like saturday morning we're winning then me and big cat will be yeah all in all in on it um the most fascinating thing thing to me about the Ryder Cup is how the different host countries can kind of put their their finger on the scale a little bit with the course since they're setting the course up.

And this is Beth Page Black. I'm not sure if you know this.
It's a very hard course. There's a sign that they put up saying warning experienced golfers only.

I love that merch, by the way, where it's just like the letters on the visor.

It's absurd.

It's the ugliest having a lot of people.

Did you see the visor? Yeah. Did you see the visor one?

That's a look, man.

I would want to punch myself in the face for wearing it, but I also want to wear it. But it's fascinating to me how you can try to mess with the course a little bit to give an advantage to your team.

So what has Team USA done to Bethpage Black to make it easier for them, harder for the Europeans?

So rough has cut down a bit. I don't necessarily know if that actually helps the Americans.
I think the Europeans have plenty of long hitters in terms of their golfers.

I think, you know, historically, Americans have had longer hitters, so they want the rough to be short. I think they've taken a little bit of the bite out of the golf course.

I mean, it doesn't, it's not going to play to the level of a best Bethpage Black that you've seen at U.S. Opens.
I mean, it's not going to be this punch you in the nose kind of golf course.

I also don't think the Ryder Cup wants that. I think you want to see Birdies and Eagles win holes.
And I think Pars winning holes isn't the most exciting thing.

But I think the rough is going to be very, very manageable and easy to play out of.

I think if us three went and played Beth Page Black like on a typical year in August, the rough would probably be more thick that time than what you're going to see this week at a Ryder Cup, you know, for these two.

two teams. And I think the greens are going to be extremely fast.

Now, again, I don't know if that necessarily helps the Americans, but I do think when you look at this team, putting is, in theory, going to be something the Americans can lean on in terms of an advantage.

All right. So the actual setup of the tournament, we obviously know how it's set up, but for our listeners who aren't big golf fans, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I know is singles.

How does a Friday, Saturday format work? Yeah, so Friday's morning foursomes, which is alternate shot. And then afternoon is four-ball, which is best ball.

So, you know, everybody's hitting their own golf ball. Morning's, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not scramble.

So it's like you're two and two, and then whichever member of your twosome scores lowest, you use that score. That's the score you use.
Yeah, okay.

Yeah, I watched, I watched the Ryder Cup, Big Cat, and I mean, I know you didn't play the level you wanted to play, but you were dialed on the rules, I thought.

I thought you had that pretty locked down.

No, I was surprised you didn't quite understand this version of it. And then obviously it rolls into Sunday singles where everybody plays.
So not everybody plays any of those formats prior to it.

You're going to have dudes sitting out on both sides, both in the Foresomes and the four-ball.

So one thing that's interesting to me about the Forsoms, which is alternate shot, I was looking at the stats over the years, and the home team dominates the alternate shot. It's not even close.

Like singles and the best ball, that's kind of like up for grabs, maybe a little bit favors the home team. But yeah, the alternate shot is weighted heavily, like way more than any other event.

towards the host country. Do you have any idea why that could be?

I don't necessarily know why the home country feels more comfortable in that environment, but it does.

You're spot on. I mean, if you win Foresomes, you win the Ryder Cup basically is how it works these days.
If you can dominate alternate shot, you can win it.

I mean, when you look at some of these, and I know Parrons are going to be out by the time this airs, but when you look at some of the potentials on the American side, I do think there's a slight advantage for them if they lean into it.

I mean, they were so good a couple of years ago in terms of the format, you know, early on in terms of the home country. And then obviously you can flip it with four ball.

But I mean, i think there are some guys like i want keegan to roll out justin thomas and bryson like to start alternate shot i think those two guys pair well in terms of their capabilities on the golf course bryson obviously can lean on a lot of the big driving holes and jt can lean on the great great iron play and i also think on the american side you don't have a lot of personalities you don't have a lot of kind of big personalities like you typically have in terms of a rider cup team those are the two biggest personalities on the american team and i think keegan could roll those guys out put them together fire up the crowd and then let some of the more quiet guys kind of play after.

Is there a level that the crowd could get too nasty? I saw a little bit of that where the Europeans, but why? We should get as nasty as possible.

I mean,

it's golf. I think there's decorum that kind of goes along with golf.
I mean, I'm with you. I think, you know, I think getting in people's kitchen makes this event a little bit more special.

I mean, I take you guys, for example, right?

You guys are, or I think you guys would consider yourselves golf fans at this point, but it's going to happen over the weekend with college football on Saturday and the NFL on Sunday.

What's going to make Big Cat and PFT tune in? It's going to be a close match and it's going to be a bit of drama like we saw in Rome with the Caddy and LaCava and Rory going at it.

Maybe the fans kind of getting in people's ears. That's what's going to make this event kind of catch fire outside of your traditional golf fans.

And I think about you guys watching on a Sunday, is a TV going to be on the golf if it's not close? Probably not. But if it's, if people are chirping, you guys might throw a TV on.

So, I mean, I think they should lean into it. Hank, well, it depends if tennis is on.
Hank, we'll go tennis first, then golf. And if it's close, I would say it will probably be on.

If it's not close, I would say probably we're just going to pretend it didn't happen. Yeah, we're going to say it was a

yeah, we're going to treat it the same way we did the Four Nations final. All right, so who

on the European team is the most likely to complain about the fans? Because I want the fans to go extra hard on them.

I mean, I think Tyrell Hatton is probably the easiest answer. I think Shane Lowry is probably answer number two.
I would probably throw Rory in there.

I mean, I think Rory embraces it more than most guys do in this event. I think Rory, if you poll players, he'd be one that would say, I want more chirping than less.

But I could see people kind of leaning maybe on his teammate or something and Rory getting a little offended by it. But I'd say Tyrrell's the easy 1A and Shane Lowry's probably 1B.

I would like to send somebody from the Louisville Police Department up to the parking lot to make sure that just in case Rory speeds off after a round, if he's upset,

pull his ass over. Yep.
Like if he doesn't break the law, that's fine. But if there's a taillight out, if he doesn't signal, I want Rory held to account for American laws.

Also, I think the U.S. kind of sent a message to the fans when they showed up wearing the tennis shoes.
Like, okay, no decorum this weekend. It's off.
We're letting it all hang out. So

Stu Finer, let him have it. Just get crazy.
Yeah.

Who on each side is the most important player? Not best, but most important player?

I would say it's easy to say Scotty on the American side.

I mean, I think he's probably the most important player in terms of playing five matches, but I think the answer I'd go outside of the best player in the world is Xander.

I mean, Xander has had a very off season this year after obviously winning two majors last year. He's been solid in writer cups and president's cups in his career.

We haven't quite seen Xander play great golf this year.

And when you're, you know, a top three player in the world in theory, the Americans need you to play well, and they're going to need Xander to kind of pair up with Patrick Cantley and kind of do what they do in these writer cups.

So I'd say Scotty is probably the easy answer on the American side.

I'd i'd probably go xander on that side of things and the interesting side on the on the america on the european thing is this rory's the answer right if rory plays well they're going to win the ryder cup i think it's interesting to lean on what we see from matt fitzpatrick this week matt matt fitzpatrick is one seven and oh in the history of the writer cup now i was doing some math today for you boys i think it's the worst percentage of anybody that's ever played more than one ryder cup 12.5% the only match he's ever won was a couple years ago alongside Rory if he has a bad ryder Cup, he's going to go down statistically as the worst Ryder Cup player of all time.

So I think for Fitzpatrick, who has played better golf over the last two, three months, I think he's got a lot of weight on his back in terms of just showing up and playing solid.

Or else, again, you're 1-9-0 or potentially 1-9-1. I mean, that's something you're going to have to carry with you the rest of your career.
All right, so off that question.

Why is it ever talked about that Tiger sucked in the Ryder Cup? And also, why did he suck in the Ryder Cup?

I think the partners got nervous. I think Tiger played with people and they kind of freaked out.
You know, he played well in the President's Cup. He got the right pairings there.

Obviously, President's Cup waited because America won all the time. But, you know, he'd always play with Steve Stricker and they would dominate on the President's Cup side of things.

Never quite found that level of partner in terms of Ryder Cups. You think about early in his career and you kind of roll out Mark O'Meara and somebody like that.

And then he was always kind of paired with just random dudes. He'd play with one guy and then play with somebody else.

And I think there was a level of intimidation playing alongside Tiger when you were those guys, knowing, man, I got to play so great or else I'm going to be the one people kind of blame.

They're never going to blame Tiger for this. Does that exist at all with Scotty? Because Scotty's obviously playing out of his mind right now and had an incredible season.

Is there a little bit of intimidation if you play with Scotty where you put more pressure on yourself? I think so. I mean, I think we saw a little bit of that in Rome.

I think he's got the right guy alongside him. I think he'll play a lot with Russell Hinley this week.

And I think Russell Hinley is kind of the perfect personality in terms of somebody you're going to to play. By the way, speaking of personality, Big Cat, you're going to be a big fan of this.

You know how the Wyder Cup rolls out and they always have weird things that the captains do? Yeah.

Keegan Bradley, I had Harris English on the ping podcast I do, and he said that they used Kirby Smart's Georgia personality test for the American Writer Cup team.

So I'm sure that's going to work, right?

I had a take that the hype videos were too early in the week. Monday was too early for a hype video.
I just wasn't ready for it. I want to get the hype video right before.

I was just anti-golf hype videos in general. It was actually Glued Activator who had the take, but I agreed with him.
Yeah. Glued Activator.
Yeah. Kirby Smart.

So the European picture with the smoke, by the way, was interesting. Did they have a smoke machine behind them? Yeah, I didn't get that picture at all.

Again, that's going to be Stu Feiner's job to just blaze up the body. Smoke them out.
Yeah. And just blow in their ear.
Blow it in Rory's ear, Stu. Yeah.

No, that's fascinating with the Kirby Smart personality test. I would like to see what goes into that.
So if we can get our hands on that, if anyone's at Georgia, let us know.

I got a dumb question about alternate shot. Whose ball do they use?

Like, if one of them plays like a tailor-made, one guy plays a top-flight,

always the approach shot. So, uh, if you, if you're, if you're, if you and me, PFT, are playing and I'm teeing off on the hole, we're using your golf ball because you're hitting the approach in.

On a par three, obviously, it's the guy that's hitting the golf shot in because off the tee, it doesn't really matter, but in terms of distance, spin rate, things like that, with your irons, you're going to want to be hitting your golf ball.

So, So it's always kind of the approach iron shot into the green. That's not what

I would have thought about hitting off the T. Yeah.
It's your T, your ball. Go for it.
Fascinating.

With Patrick Cantley, we're used to hating Patrick. We're used to being like this slow guy.
I can't stand watching him. He makes golf boring.
He takes 15 minutes to finish a par three.

How can we convince ourselves

to root for this guy that we've grown up hating?

Is there any spin zone that we can give ourselves? Yeah, I mean,

I think Patrick Cantley is, you know, I mean, I think you got to have a heel on your team, right?

I mean, I think throughout history, great sports teams typically have the Dennis Rodman-like character that you don't want to play against, but you want him on your squad. And I think Cantley is that.

Also, I'll say this. Historically in the Ryder Cup, Americans have had Patricks that do well that maybe you don't root for 51 weeks out of the year.
That's true. So maybe it's a Patrick thing.

That's true. I was also thinking that like Europeans,

if you ever watch a soccer game, you guys waste time all the time. So this is just our version.
Deal with it. It's a good point.
What does the score have to be on Saturday night for the U.S.

to have a shot? If we're down, let's say we're down. Because then you say it's 12 matches.

Each match has a point on Sunday. So it's like you can always be alive, so to speak.
But what does the score have to be for us to be like, hey, we could still win this thing?

Yeah, it can't be down more than three. I think it's probably the way you got to look at it.
I think you can be down three and have an opportunity. Historically, Americans have been better in singles.

So I think if you're down three going into it, there is opportunity. I'm really, really fearful of the Americans if they're down at all, considering the experience on the European side.

I think they got to go into singles with a lead to win this thing. I think the Europeans are going to be scary, scary tough if they're leading going into Sunday, considering basically one through 10.

Now, if I was going to rank one through 24 of the guys on both teams, I think Seph Straka and Shane Lowry, with the way they're playing playing right now, would be my bottom two.

But you can hide those guys if you have the lead. You could put them out, you know, 10-11 or 9-10.

But I think, you know, basically one through 10 on the European side right now is playing excellent, excellent golf. And they would be very, very tough with a lead.

I think the Americans have to have it at least tied going into a Sunday singles. All right.
So then flip it.

What is a lead that the Americans have that you're like, this is cooked?

We won this.

Man, I'd say four, but that was Medina. I'd say four and a half.

I think if they're up four and a a half, going into Sunday singles, I think it's done, dusted, game over, start the champagne celebration.

Okay, I know it's we don't know what the pairings are going to be. We don't know Keegan Bradley's style, but like how much of an impact can the captain have on the final score?

Like, what's the swing between a very good captain and a very bad captain?

Point, point and a half. I think it's probably fair to say.

I think it's a little bit like Major League Baseball, where maybe the manager doesn't have a massive impact once the game begins, but I think the impact leading into a game can matter.

So I'd say probably a point, point and a half in terms of analytical team, people you have in the background, kind of the work you put in leading into a writer cop.

What about the strategy of conceding putts? I know there's usually some dispute that happens at some point during the weekend. Oh, he didn't give me that putt.

I'm mad at him that he made me putt the ball one foot.

And then, you know, that turns into its whole side storyline. But is there like a strategy that works best in terms of,

okay, anything within two and a half feet in? Is that line three feet? Is it the length of the putter? Like, do they think about this going into the matches?

Like, we're not conceding anything today, ball and hole. Yeah, a pro golfer once told me about concessions.
If I wouldn't want to putt it, I'm not giving it.

So maybe it could be two feet, but have movement, right? It could be a righty having a two-foot putt that moves left to right and you have to play just outside the hole.

Maybe that's a putt you make them hit. But if it's three feet straight up the hill with no movement, maybe that's a putt you give.

So I don't think there's necessarily a foot per se in terms of what you give and what you don't, but maybe the difficulty of what that putt looks like for the player.

You know, if it's a lefty with a putt that's moving left to right, you know, it's a little bit of an easier putt. So maybe you give that putt as well.
Is there any strategy?

Like if I were playing in the Ryder Cup, I would just give everything early and then let them give me back and then at the end just be like, ha ha, gotcha. Like we were

playing nice.

I do think there's a little strategy involved in giving putts early and not giving them late, or maybe not having a guy hit a putt inside of five feet early.

I think that happens probably more in a Ryder Cup than anything else. I mean, Big Cat, I love your strategy of conceding the hole as soon as possible.

I do think that's like a cool way of going about it. Like, don't let him get the confidence.
Right.

I mean, you can see, I think you can see the one at the Ryder Cup off the tee, didn't you? Yeah, you got to. When you know, you just, you're like, I'm fucked.
Let's just go to the next hole.

It's a mine. I mean, I don't really have anything in my golf game except trying mind tricks, and those don't work either.

I also decided I think watching Hank play match play golf is among my top three favorite YouTube golf things. Love that.
Love that. He's so passionate.
He wants to win so bad. You see

the crash and burn and also like you know, the euphoria when it goes well. I just absolutely can't get enough.
I wish Hank had his own golf channel and just played. I mean, I know

four days a week.

Say, well, you're in luck because there's a new video of Hank and Match Play that's coming out either Thursday or Friday. So I would recommend watching that one.
It's a good one.

Me and PFT are also playing for five grand in a couple of weeks. Yeah.
So speaking of that, maybe in this video, there might be something that you've never seen in match play before.

I'm curious to know your take on this.

We were playing, and it wasn't me. It wasn't Hank.
It might have been the people that we were playing with. They both ended up in the shit off the T, but in opposite directions.

Each one of them proceeds to hit their next like two or three shots either deeper or into the water. They both get frustrated.

They both said, fuck it, I concede on opposite sides of the hole and then drove to the middle. Each person was going to concede the hole to the other person.

They didn't know that they had won the hole. What do you do in the event of a double concede? Wow.
Yeah. I don't, man, I'd have to call the USGA and ask that.
I've never heard that before.

I do like the idea of maybe it's the, maybe it's like kind of like when you put your scorecard in, first in, last out. Maybe it's the first person that mutters concession than the other person.

But I guess if you say it at the same time, maybe it's flipping a T or or maybe maybe it's just both lost a hole and you move on.

Yeah, like if you had already conceded and then you're driving to the fairway and the other guy goes, hey, I give up.

You're like, oh, okay, I'm just not going to tell them that I already conceded this hole. Yeah, I mean, everybody quits, right? I mean, I feel like that's how I play like my kids in any board game.

They just like, who's going to quit first? Because they're getting frustrated and so am I. Yeah.
Pick it up and move on. Hank, do you have a question for Shane?

Yeah, I'm interested about the debutantes.

You're looking at draft kings. The rookies.
The Rookies. Okay.
Yeah.

Obviously, that's, you know, we haven't seen them play in these type of tournaments.

Is there one of these guys who's maybe better equipped for it or someone that's like, you know, going to be feeling the pressure more?

I really like J.J. Spawn this week.
I think JJ Spawn is going to have an epic, epic Ryder Cup. Personality-wise, the way he's played this season, you know, you think about J.J.

Spawn, of course, he won the U.S. Open.
He could have had a season where he won the U.S. Open, won the Players, and won a playoff event.

I mean, that's a pretty polished year when you think about what Scotty did and Rory did, basically the third best player in terms of going about your business in the biggest stages.

I just feel like you can roll that. And we saw that with Max, you know, a couple of times in Ryder Cups and President's Cup, kind of riding that momentum wave to major success.

I see JJ Spawn as kind of a Max Homa-like character at the Ryder Cup for the Americans. I could see him having a big, big week.
Who, if we do lose,

who can we blame?

Will it be Keegan because he picked the wrong guys?

yeah who who who who would have because I want to have just something if we lose I want to be like oh we should have had this guy I'm just going to tweet that so tell me like what I can smartly tweet like oh they should have picked him that was so stupid

yeah you know it's it's interesting is it would be tough to lean on anybody you know outside of Keegan picking himself I think he was the lone character that had an opportunity to be on this team you know Jordan Speeth wasn't playing great golf although he's been great in rider cups in kind of his history and also I think he's a great personality fit for a rider cup.

But really, when you think about like, you know, when you do like the bracket in March Madness and there's always that one team left off that everybody gets upset about, that wasn't really the case for either of these teams this year.

I mean, there wasn't really one guy that didn't make it that you were sitting there rolling your eyes saying, you know, ASU should have been in the bracket, right?

And so maybe you could blame Keegan, I guess, is probably the easiest person to blame if you were looking for like a tweet to go semi-golf viral.

But I don't know. I mean, maybe Kepka, like Kepka, Kepka would have won in France.
He'd have been an easy one to say, where was Kepka, even though he hadn't really played good this year.

Obviously, he won at Beth Page Black when the PGA was there a few years ago. I like that.
I'll just say Jordan Smith and Kepka would have won.

Yeah, well, if you say, if you blame Keegan, you're actually also complimenting Keegan. You should have been like, hey, if he had picked himself, we would have won.
It's a good call.

Yeah, believe in yourself as much as I believe in you, Keegan. I'm blaming Keegan the captain, not Keegan the golfer here.

It's like when you get asked in an interview, like, what's your greatest flaw? And And then you somehow compliment yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I try too hard.

Yeah, I would just work too hard.

I'm too hard of a work.

What's it like playing with Bryson as a partner?

And I guess this is more specifically towards alternate shot, but since he hits the ball so much further than everybody, does he actually end up putting his teammate in a position that they're not used to?

Maybe, but I mean, you guys have played golf. I mean, you'd rather hit a wedge than a seven-iron.

I mean, I think it's awesome to play with a guy that drives the golf ball as good as he drives the golf ball.

I think if you're Justin Thomas, who it's it's kind of been his Achilles in terms of the way he's played this season, driving the golf ball, it kind of has fallen off in terms of his consistency and his accuracy.

If you're JT paired up with Bryson and you're like, dude, this guy's hitting 340 and he's hitting eight fairways or nine fairways, I mean, golf's much easier from that position.

I think Bryson has potential to be a big, big star this week.

I mean, obviously, he's going to get the crowd behind him, but with the way he's going to interact and the way he's going to kind of dive into this, if him and his partner win Thursday morning, or sorry, Friday morning to maybe go go out and play Friday afternoon and he wins again, he's going to feed off of that.

He's going to eat that up. And I think he's one of those guys you want to be paired up with as opposed to not wanting to be paired up.

Now, the people that are going to be cheering for Bryce, are they going to be bots or are they going to be real people?

Mix, probably. I'd say about half and half.

I'll have to check the numbers.

A wild take from Brandless Chimbla.

What's his name?

Brandeis.

Brandle Chambion. Brando.
Yeah. Wild take from Brando, right? To be like, hey, this guy, all his his views are bots.

Listen, we've been as big a haters of Bryce in the past as pretty much anybody, but we can admit, yeah, the guy gets numbers. I kind of thought it was like the perfect take.

I mean, it was just like you talk about a take that just gets people riled up and there's no way to kind of quantify it. I thought it was maybe the perfect take about something that...

may or may not be true. Who the hell knows how many bots are watching a YouTube video? I thought it was kind of perfect, actually.

I mean, it's ridiculous, but also I thought it was kind kind of a perfect take. And again, anytime you can kind of outreach golf in terms of a take, you've won a little bit.

Yeah, the number's more than zero, so he's not technically wrong. Zach, do you have any questions about the Ryder Cup? I did have a question for Shane.
Does that play? Yeah.

Shane, I was curious if you, has there been any thought to maybe a sequel to The Golfer Zoo?

Oh, we've thought about nice, Zach. Thank you for the question.
It's really nice. That's a children's book I wrote.
Big Cat said it was too long, but his kids liked it.

I always thought it was a good idea. Yeah, I skipped pages, but that's fine.
Yeah, yeah. That's fine.
I do the the same thing with my kids as well. I've thought about a touch-feel one.

So we've talked about that. I've talked to my publisher about one for maybe smaller, smaller children that you can like touch and squeeze little golf things on it.
So thank you for the question.

That's very nice of you. I'll Venmo you later.
Okay. Good point.
Perfect, Jack. Perfect.

All right. So you really think like we're not going to, I'm not going to bet on Europe.
I refuse to bet on Europe.

But if we were just completely, if we're a Canadian listening to this right now, you're saying Europe plus 170 is the bet.

I think it's the bet.

I think the fact that you're getting plus money on Europe is wild. Can't do it.

I would hammer Europe right now.

I think it's potential for blowout on the European side. I don't like that.

I don't like it. But this is a great, great reverse jinx.
No, Hank's not going to do it. I appreciate that.
Hank, no. Not going to pull the trigger? Nah.
Can't do it. You got to root for USA.

And again, we're just going to pretend it didn't happen if we lose. Yeah, it's fine.
It's not a big deal. Like, golf golf season.

Will you guys talk about it on Monday if Europe wins? 60 seconds most. Yeah, I mean, we've skipped over a lot of stuff that needs to go away.

Yeah.

We're going to talk about that Bills Ravens game from Monday night a few weeks ago. That's what we'll dip into.
Yeah, way better. Yeah, way better.

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what hole is your favorite hole at beth page black

love 17.

i think it's to be pivotal obviously late in the round uh but i think 17 if i was going to set up shop i'd go to 17 and watch uh and watch that i think that'll be where most matches end up 18's probably one of the weaker closing holes you'll see in terms of championship golf it's fine but it's not the most exciting i think 17 is the spot spot.

Okay, what's the easiest hole?

What are the birdie holes out there? The par fives are birdiable. I think two will be pretty gettable as well.
Actually, one with the T's moved up.

I think Rory and Bryson will get close to driving the first. They move the T's up to the grandstands.

I think there's going to be an opportunity for dudes to maybe get in those greenside bunkers or get really close to the front of the green there. I'm off the T, the longest hitter.

So one and two is not a bad spot to be as well. Okay, that's awesome.
I like that. How does the pairing announcement go?

Is it like we do when we do the Ryder Cup where the team announces one pair and then Europe has a chance to respond and they get to name the other one?

No, that's that's President's Cup is the comp, which I think is the way to do it. This is you present both, which is I don't love it as much.

I just don't think it's as much fun, but this is that's the way they do it.

That's kind of when Rory was talking about the last time out with Cant Lay and where he was going to fall on in terms of getting put out there in the third spot.

That's the presentation is simultaneous. Okay.

Is it really against the rules if somebody hits a ball deep into the rough, into the gallery, and they kick it out for a United States player?

Is that really against the rules? A fan kicks it out? No, rubber the green. Oh, oh, okay.

Listen, Long Island, you have a chance to prove New York is a great sports top.

I don't want to tell you to do anything, but throw them all out there.

This would be the funniest thing to ever happen to golf if we were just fair way every single drive. you're pretty much on the team if you're in the galleries yeah

that's that's an interesting home field advantage that bumpers thought about it's like you just act like it hits you yeah just bounce yeah it's like it's like when you're bowling with bumpers you're golfing with them Yeah, I was I was working last week with my buddy James Nitties, and he said he hit one in a tour event one time and it hit a lady's head and kicked 30 yards out of bounds and she's yelling at him.

He yelled four and she was yelling at him when he got up there about hitting her. And he's like, well, you, you, my ball's like in the hazard now.
You know,

you now I'm going to miss the cut. You know, now I had an opportunity for that to be like in the left rough to a right hole location, and I might make birdie.
So, yeah, kind of rubber the green there.

Tiger had some of those guys back in the day that would give him a little foot wedge sometimes, help him out, kick it out, yeah, just

kick it out, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you guys, you guys, you guys are true Americans.
I mean, the writer makes great content, by the way.

Hey, big cat, listen, the driver everywhere on the par threes, I'm a big fan of. I don't like people trying to talk you out of it.

I also think you should go like driver, three wood, five wood, seven wood, nine wood in the bag, almost no irons. I like that.
I think that would help you out a lot. All right.

I have two years to get better. I have two years till the next Ryder Cup.
I have to do it in secret because I want to just one day just be better than Hank. It would devastate him.

So I got to figure it out. It would be sick.
I need someone to do that. It would be sick if you showed up.

By the way, last question for you guys. There's three of you guys.
You guys have been in Chicago for, what, two years now? Yeah.

What's the total number of country clubs between the three boys in the Chicago area?

I think we're up to two now. No.

Did you join one? No. Oh.
I think we're up to two now. Hank.

Hank, are you sure?

I think we're about to be at two, though, aren't we? Hank? Yeah, it's one right now. Oh, yeah.
We might be at two.

It might be at two.

Hank, just the sweet boy over there.

I'm going to have to fly to Chicago and play some G. Those guys are pretty nice.
Love to have you. Oh, man.
All right, Shane, you're the best. Thank you so much, man.
Have fun out there.

Thank you, fellas.

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Okay, Fire Fest of the week, Henry.

Firefest, nothing crazy.

Nothing really at all. I mean, people were saying it was a Firefest.
I didn't really look at it that way. I'm Wash, though.

One of our co-workers went semi-viral proposing a clip being like, Yeah, like

Jacob said this really funny. People always ask me, you know,

they say they don't know Barcelona, and they ask me about Hank, who's just like some no-name producer behind the scenes.

Which I just viewed as like me being washed. But I guess some people are like, you got a Firefest.
Yeah, but then other people said you're the co-host of the number one sports podcast.

Yeah, shout out to Gaz. Yeah, Gaz, number one Hank, Hank guy.
I actually think Hank is like, you fly the highest when you get put down by something.

So like in the aftermath of someone saying that, everybody was like, you're out of your fucking mind, Hank. Yeah, it was honestly, I appreciated

the support. I appreciated the support.
And I honestly understood what she's saying because, like, I enjoy it. It makes me laugh a lot of times when people say you work at Barcelona.

People are like, oh, I don't really follow Barcelona. And then they will bring up like 10 Barstool things.
It's like, well, yeah,

you follow Barstool. All of those things are Barstool.

Hank's the glue guy of this show.

Always has been. I understand.
You are. You're the glue of this show.
What does that mean?

It means you're the glue. If you weren't here, this show would fall apart.
And we get high when we smell you. Yeah.
Wow. Thank you.
But yeah,

it was actually nice. A lot of people were supportive, so I appreciated it.
That's good. So not really a Fire Fest.
I didn't really have any Fire Fest. My car didn't get broken into.

I actually got it all fixed. Oh, hello.
Drive's good good now.

Going to Penn State this weekend. State Penn.
State Penn. Might be on the Jumbotron.
Who knows? Stay tuned. Whoa, what? Awesome, Hank.
If we are.

Possibly.

We are. Yeah.
You got a great golf video coming out. James Franklin Cattle.
I don't know in the pink one. Yeah, it is a good golf video.
Yeah.

It's a good golf video. I agree.
People should watch it. And we have $5,000 online.
I'm going to fucking smoke you. Okay.
Not not that I didn't in this one.

I love when you guys fight over golf, yeah. So does Shane Bacon, yeah, that is a pretty hilarious reveal that Hank has now two golf club memberships.
Yeah,

I don't, by the way, you're in process, I'm thinking about it. You're loading, second loading, you've mentally committed to it, yeah.

Yeah, I'm trying to unliquify

sound advice.

It is. It's an investment.
Invest it. I am.
This is.

He's investing in himself. Yeah.
How many will you get to? I don't think I'll go more than this.

Unless I get like, fuck you, money. Yeah.
I don't think anybody stops at two. I think everybody stops at one.
Yeah. But if you go two, it's like cats.
You're just going to get more.

You're just going to be a golf man.

There's functionality. Like, it's for a reason.
Like, you got one club you can play at. You need another club you can play at.
Functionality.

Right. right you're getting yeah if you get bored then we'll just go to the other one

yeah all right

uh all right pf to your firefest can shane come in here oh can we get shane in the booth for mine shaney

shaney boy yeah so um we do we do the morning show i do uh i do thursday mornings at on fs1 and uh we had an idea Big Cat does the morning show as well. Hank, we need to get you on the morning show.

No, I'm thinking Jacob. Yeah.
Yeah, probably.

get some eyeballs. I saw the awful announcing we need some eye candy.

So on today's morning show, me and Jeff D. Lowe came up with this idea like five years ago.

We wanted to do a cooking show where we would try to figure out how to prepare a football and how to cook a football.

And I asked Donnie, Chef Donnie, here, if he wanted to figure out how to cook a football for me and ate it on the morning show. I feel awful right now.
My stomach is terrible.

But guess what? I am football now. Football is a part of my blood.
It'll always be in me. I'm committed to it.

But when I was looking for the football to cook, I stopped by Shane's desk because he had a football on there. And so I grabbed Shane's football and Shane was like, don't take that.

That's my football. And then I looked at memes, and he was like, no, it's not actually his football.
That's just, it's just an office football that Shane has claimed for himself.

And so I took the football and we cooked the football. Max even sent Shane a picture of the football being prepared, like deflated and chilling in water.

And Shane got really upset about that because it was like we were sending a ransom video, or we were sending your head of a dead loved one. There were so many lies that were just so.

Did you consider this your football? No.

I did not tell you, don't take that as my football. You asked, Can I take this?

And I said, Yeah, can you please bring it back? Because it's my football. But I'm going to know.
I'm going to eat it. Well, there's like a backstory behind why I asked.

So, like, I don't know if it's all right to say, but Max, Max can be a little ADD sometimes. Oh, yeah, no, that's fine.

How dare you? Yeah, how he

dare you. That's fair to say.
That's fair to say.

Say that, I had a. I just wanted to quickly say, like, what if every pass before the line of scrimmage was a fumble? Oh, that's a good take.
Yeah.

I also don't think that you can say that Max is a little anything. Well, anyway, anyways, he will.
You can certainly say you're a little lot of things.

Here we go.

So, over the last couple months, like i'm now max sits close to me he will like randomly stand up and like take things off my desk and like be talking to somebody yeah and then just like forget where he puts it or like not put it back and then i've had like to be fair shane was so worried i found the football brought it back to him he said no this isn't the right football went and checked the security tapes to see if it was the right football It was the right football.

So that's the extent of how much he cares about this football.

That's a lot of caring about this football ball.

It's the perfect throwing ball, though. It's like perfectly warm.
It was the perfect throwing ball. And I only, like, so things will go missing from my desk.

And that week, I lost a tide stick, and I got Polynesian sauce on my sweatshirt, so I couldn't get the stain out. So Max, he returned the correct football to your desk, is what I'm hearing.

No, he did not return it to the desk. Max, what did you do?

He threw it onto the chair. Right next to our desk.
Well,

it's behind the monitors and stuff. I couldn't see it.
Then memes grabbed it and then put it in

like a case of things on the ground. It was.
I overreacted it. The case of things on the ground right next to your desk.
But that's why I asked, can you please bring it back? Because things will go.

And like...

I know Jack's taken the football before and just left it in the net out there and stuff. And it's your football.
Well, no, it's. To Shane's credit, people do just take stuff off.

They put

the golden gold, Stella Blue, Golden Mug's gone missing from my desk. But you going to find it.
That was not me. You going to try to find the football makes me think it's your football.

Otherwise, you wouldn't care. Well, I just like the football.

It's not something I want to lose track of. It's okay to say it's your football.
No, it's not my football. The only reason I ask you is.

I tried to give him another football that was the exact same make, exact same like it was the Duke, same football, and he's like, no, that's not the right football. Yeah, it's your football.
No.

So all I did was I asked he could bring it back, and then he goes, no, I'm going to eat it. Right.
Which I didn't. I thought he was just going to borrow it for like an ad or something.

So I just asked if he can bring it back. And then all I asked was, does it have to be this football? Because there's 20 footballs out there that no one touches.
And that's your football.

No. It's okay to say it's your football.
It is the best football.

Everyone uses it. It's good football.
It's just the perfect football for you. Well, everyone can use it, but you have to bring it back to Shane's desk.
Right, because it's your football. Yeah.

It didn't seem like I was allowed to use it when I was using it. That's just not true.
No, but that's because you take stuff and you wouldn't put it back.

I could have taken the tide stick. That does seem like my ADD brain would take a tide stick.
I used to have a draft king shop. I'd probably basketball went eating off my desk.

People just grab like stuff off my desk. That football belonged to Shane.
All I did was ask if you could bring it back. But I couldn't because I was going to eat it.

I didn't. Well, you said, Can I take this? And I said, Yeah, can you please bring it back when you're done? And then you go, No, I'm going to eat it.

The look on your face, it was so sad when you realized that that football was going to get eaten. And I felt really bad about it.

But if it makes you feel any better, after I ate it, I've been crapping my brains out. Apparently, there's like chemicals and glue.

I have a physical tomorrow when my doctor is going to be like, how's your diet? And I'm going to have to be like, well, I ate a football yesterday. I had glue and stuff in it.

So probably not the cleanest diet in the world. So now I'm a little bit concerned, though, because, Shane, what I did, I wanted you to think that I took your football and I ate it.

So then I actually, I saved your football,

which I have right here.

But now I think I might have saved the wrong football.

and I think we did cook and eat your football well it's not his football the football that was on that was Shane's right I I don't say it's Shane's football I don't say

it's not his football I want to see the football yeah yeah I'm going to buy a football I'm going to buy it dude that's going to be my football that's going to be my football so people I can't I don't have to deal with is that your football I thought that this was Shane's football but then now I'm hearing that the football was changed and I think that accidentally Shane is that your football I can't tell I need to feel wait let me let me yeah let me see the You still won't know.

We've known for...

Let me see. It has been proven that you don't know because

this was the football that we found the security tapes for that you were adamant was not the same football, but it was the same football. Okay.

Well, there's also a scuff mark on the side, which after our conversation, I decided to look at so I could differentiate it.

Shane, do you need to fully feel this football and see if it's your football? Do you need to put on your rings? No, I did not. Okay.

I want to see those rings so bad.

This is our football. It's your football.
This is our is our football. That's your football.
Yes. Okay.
Now it's changed football. So he would know.
He would know because he touches it. Yep.
That's

like a good football owner.

Thank you for saving that. That's very kind.
I do feel like I'm going to die, though. Like, low-key? The football gods.
Low-key, low-key? Yeah,

whatever's in a football, it's...

Again,

I'm glad that I did it. Yeah.
I'm really glad that I ate that football, but

I'm going to have a rough day.

All right, my Fire Fest. We touched on it Wednesday.
Wisconsin football is in a bad spot. I've also then just signed myself up for a shitload of work because

I did a hit on ESPN Milwaukee on Thursday or Wednesday and I told my good friend Ben Bruss, if he gets a list of the richest people who went to University of Wisconsin, I will cold call them for a video and live stream it.

So that's just more work and maybe illegal work.

Is it? I don't know.

I'm going to have to do that. You can't live stream because you have to say, like, I'm recording.
You're live. You're live.
Yeah. Just hitting everyone up for money.
What if you just made a podcast?

Maybe. I just know that I used to do, I did that for a job for a little bit, like doing the telefund.

And it's the worst job ever to call someone, cold call someone, be like, hey, can we get some money? But I will do it. And I'm not looking forward to it.
But I'm going to do it. Yeah.
Sales is.

It'll take its toll on you. Yeah.
All right, Zach, finish this off. My Fire Fest of the Week is we may have recently talked about how my apartment building did get sold to a different company.
Oh,

I don't remember this. All right.

We got some letters under the door the other day that was like, hey, great having you. We're gone.
We're selling this building. New guy owns the building.

My Fair Faces of the Week is like, we've been invaded by new employees of the building. No more familiar faces.
It feels like I'm living in enemy lines. Oh,

like it's a new regime. That's exactly what it feels like.
There's like an unsettling energy of like, will we

be able to continue to stay here?

We got different policies with the mail. Are they just trying to squeeze you out?

That could also be the case.

It feels really tense in every floor of the building now. No pajamas in the hallway?

I wouldn't even risk it. I might even go formal, formal in the hallway now.
Yeah. It's,

I don't know what the future looks like, but it does look like it's every time, every day I get home, it feels like an away game now rather than like a safe space. Are they doing stuff where,

since they're new, are they like putting breakfast out for you guys or trying to make it seem like like they're a cool management company?

So the other day they did, they put like two pots of coffee downstairs by the front door, but there was also like s six new guys walking around, shirts tucked in with clipboards, just noting stuff down.

I was like, this can't be good. Yeah, that's what they do.
They'll put out like the worst continental breakfast and be like, hey, we're such a nice management company.

I look forward to working with you guys as your tenant here. By the way, rent's going up $1,000 a month, but you get, look, we got a bagel for you.

I can feel that there's a looming sense of that's what's going to happen yeah

yeah we got big texas but by the way we're going to 30 increase see ya yep don't let them do that to you zach i'm going to try to stand strong but i don't think it's going to work out

your lease is up what six months uh yeah actually pretty soon you could organize hardball zach you could organize a rent strike yeah

like a picket well just tell everybody in your apartment building don't pay the rent to the new company. They can't affect all of us.

That's another thing. They shut the portal down, so now I got to figure out how to get a checkbook.
I've never done that before. Okay.
Have you ever written a check?

I have not outside of like school, like teaching you how to write a check. Okay.

I've been checkless. Do you guys have checkbooks? I do.
I do not have a checkbook. Me neither.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Good show, boys.
Got to pay the dink guy somehow.

Ready?

No. Three.

Eat that penalty box. No.

Ready?

Set.

Nope.

No.

Numbers. Three.
Oh,

that was close.

I'll go four.

I'm going to go five. I got it.
I'm looking at a video of Jaden practicing right now. I think he's playing.
I got it. I'll go 22.

39.

It's 33.

Zach. The Zach reveals all time.
99 Poke.

Just look at the numbers on the thing. Yeah.
79. Zach, you're hot.
What was your number, Zach?

39.

Zach said he's actively trying not to get it. 97.

Damn. 97.
Well, memes is actively trying not to get it, too. Guy will never get it.
I've stood on that hill. It's much more impressive than not get it.
Yeah, right.

How many people have gotten it?

Everybody. Yeah.
How many people have it trying to get it every time? One guy gotten it.

Love you guys.