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Today is Friday, October 17th.

And PFT,

there's just something about Joe Flacco.

I'm going to let our commander-in-chief take it from here.

That's okay with you guys.

Something about him.

What do you

Joe Flacco is actually a very elite quarterback.

He won a Super Bowl.

He did it really to a certain extent with that great arm of his.

I would say, absolutely, he is an elite quarterback.

That's facts.

That's facts.

Joe Flacco.

He's got the curve on that one.

He has saved Thursday night football.

It was an unbelievable game.

Bengals win 33-31 in an absolute shootout.

And

our prayers have been answered.

We said the Bengals have a lot of prime time standalone games coming up.

We need a quarterback we can enjoy, that we can love, and Joe Flacco is that quarterback.

He was electric, and the Bengals, watch out for the Bengals.

The Bengals are back to being fun again.

With Joe Flacco, watching the ball.

Joe Flacco understands the mission when you're the Cincinnati quarterback.

And the mission is get the ball to Jamar Chase, occasionally T.

Higgins, and then mix in some Yoshi.

Yeah.

That's what you got to do.

And Joe did it.

He was just force-feeding Jamar Chase all night.

It was a beautiful thing to watch.

Jamar Chase ended up with 16 receptions for 161 yards.

Yeah, Joe Flacco, he is on a one-man barnstorming tour to make every fan base fall in love with him eventually.

And he's going to get there.

I think one day he's going to end up playing for the Steelers.

Yeah.

Because Mike Tomlin absolutely hates Joe Flacco.

He respects him and he hates playing against him.

He was pissed off at Andrew Berry for trading him inside the division.

Like, what the fuck are you doing, dude?

Why are you making me play against this guy again?

Why would you ever do that?

The guy was good enough to be your starting quarterback week one of the season, and now you're trading him across the state.

It didn't make sense to Mike Tomlin.

It doesn't make sense to anybody except for the Bengals.

And I'm so goddamn glad that they got him because, yes, not only the primetime games, Thanksgiving is saved because of Joe.

Yep.

He wasn't retired.

He was real tired from playing on the Browns.

And he, yeah, so Mike Tomlin said earlier in the week, you know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.

Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than us because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.

He's right.

He had a right to be pissed.

They lose this game because of Joe Flacco.

The Bengals defense is still not great.

Doesn't matter.

Neither was the Steelers.

But listen, they're 3-4 now.

They have the Jets next week.

They have the Bears the week after.

And then they play the Steelers again.

They have a tough...

little stretch there where we don't know what the Ravens are going to be, but they play the Patriots, Ravens, and Bills in a four-game stretch.

And they finish with the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns.

Like, can the Bengals?

I'm going to say it.

The Bengals?

What?

What?

What are you going to say?

They're not out of it.

I'm going to say that the Bengals.

I'm going to say they're not out of it.

I'm going to say crazier things have happened in Joe Flacco's career.

Here's what I'm going to say about the Bengals and Bengals fans who are listening right now.

You are no longer just playing out the string of the season.

There is something that you are looking.

You can look forward to your Sundays.

The next two games are Jets, Bears at home.

Why is that crazy, Hank?

Why is that crazy?

It's not crazy.

I thought you were going to say, can the Bagels make a run?

It's not crazy.

All right.

Let's break it down.

All right.

Because

I'll be honest here.

With Joe Flacco, I mean, they could beat anyone.

So let's just say they beat the Jets and the Bears.

I'll give you the Bears when I'll say it.

So that would be five and four.

Okay.

Then they played the Patriots, Ravens, Bills.

Wait, you said the Bears?

Yeah,

I'm just just doing this for a hypothetical.

He's not saying they're going to.

He's saying

they're hypothetical.

Yes, of course.

The Bears are not good enough to be like, oh, the Bears could beat the Bengals.

They beat the Steelers tonight.

Yeah.

So

Hank does not want Bengals fans to be happy.

Here we go.

Let's just say.

To be fair,

Hank hates Joe Flacco.

He does hit Joe Flacco.

All right, so PFT, I'll talk to you.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

You don't really.

Yes, I agree.

I obviously want the Bears to beat the Bengals.

I'm just saying

if they beat the Jets and the Bears, they would be 5-4.

They play the Patriots, Ravens, Bills, Ravens.

Let's say they go one and three there.

Okay?

Let's just say

one and three.

We're doing what you thought.

That would make them six and seven.

Then they beat the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns to finish the season.

My math, that's 10-7.

I got him at 10 or 11.

10-7?

Yeah, it could happen.

Again,

they could lose to anyone.

The defense does stink.

It wasn't good.

The Steelers' defense wasn't good either.

But, I mean, Joe Flacco, I was surprised that he had that much time to throw.

And there were a lot of throws that he was making that was like quick.

He took like, you know, a few steps, had T.

Higgins and mostly actually Jamar Chase Knight on those crossing routes.

It's like just get it in between the linebackers.

And, I mean, the Steelers did a terrible job of this.

It's terrible.

Because it was pretty clear what the Bengals were going to be doing.

And they just kept doing it.

They just kept doing it until they got stopped, and they never got stopped.

And I don't think the Bengals are going to make the playoffs.

I don't think they're going to make a run.

I'm more trying to pump up Bengals fans because, from where Bengals fans were two weeks ago to where they are right now, they can at least enjoy football for another month, which is a big, big thing.

Like, your football season ending before Halloween is a terrible feeling.

I've been there.

It sucks.

Now they can at least be like, you never know.

With Joe Flacco, he did it with the Browns.

Why the fuck not?

Just let Cincinnati.

That's fine.

Let Cincinnati daydream.

That's all it haven't they been through enough yeah it's a daydream hank it's not it's like if you told me to do i have to bet it with my own money right now they're gonna make the playoffs i probably would bet no but i'm gonna let them daydream a little bit he threw for 342 three touchdowns and if you add what were what what were what he finished with last week because last week it's basically joe flacco in the last six quarters yeah he was bad in the first quarter against the packers and then the last six quarters he's realized the offense he's realized this jamar chase button that he has to keep hitting, and he's played well.

Yeah, last week he

ended with like, so he's probably in the last six quarters like 356 touchdowns or five touchdowns.

Just saying, something about Joe Flacco.

Something about Joe Flacco, and if you watch the games, he's Flacco's gotten better every quarter.

Something about Joe Flacco.

He's improving on a 15-minute by 15-minute basis.

Something about Joe Flacco.

He was an elite quarterback tonight.

He had elite speed, too.

You put him on the naked bootleg.

And Flacco, what did he get?

Like 11 yards rushing?

And that fan just being like, holy shit.

Oh, shout out to the Bengals fan that was waving the towel over his head tonight like a helicopter to the point where I thought he was going to levitate off the ground.

I thought that towel was whipping around fast enough where he was actually going to get airborne on that.

Credit to Flacco, man.

I bet Flacco's going to have a good night tonight.

I bet he's going to celebrate.

I bet he's going to go home.

I bet he's going to drink one and a half beers.

I bet you he's going to fall asleep on the big chair after drinking one and a half beers.

And I bet you his wife is going to wake him up at like 2 a.m.

being like, Joe, you should come upstairs and go to bed.

He'll be like, all right, yeah, that's enough partying for tonight.

I don't even think he lives with his wife.

That's a great night.

I think his whole family's in New Jersey.

I think he's probably just hanging out.

He's probably going to get in a robe and hang out in his hotel room.

Well, I know that

his wife got driven over from Cleveland to Cincinnati.

Okay.

Because I know his kids are still in high school in New Jersey, and they're playing high school football and stuff.

I feel like Mrs.

Flacco's got to make the trip for Thursday night.

For the game?

Yeah, she probably did.

But then she's probably going back, and he's probably just got a hotel room by himself.

Yeah, that'd be nice.

Have a nice little celebratory JO.

Yeah, just hang out.

Someone about Flacco.

As for the Steelers, this was the most Mike Tomlin.

The Steelers are the Steelers.

And I was on Pittsburgh Radio with our friends,

Randy and Bill,

this morning, and they were saying, and I was like, are they the same Steelers?

They're like, no, no, they're different.

But they are because

Mike Tomlin, in a game that he's a favorite and supposed to win will always lose that game.

And I'm not saying the Steelers season's done or anything.

It's just these are the Steelers.

They will win a game at some point that they weren't supposed to win.

But Mike Tomlin, the rules of always staying around 500 and staying even, he's got to give a couple of these away.

And this is the one that he gave away.

And you just, like, I thought it going in because our good friend Jersey Jerry was saying how this team is different and they're so much better.

I was like, I've heard that every single year.

And then you fall on your face.

He said earlier today, 0% chance they lose this game.

You're going to clip this, clip it.

I want you to clip it.

No chance they lose this game.

Yeah.

Not going to be close.

We also, by the way, speaking of which,

Pittsburgh Radio, Andrew Philippano, Filipano,

Filipani, Philipponi, Philipponi,

who is a host on 937 The Fan,

said before the game, there's no way the Steelers lose tonight.

In fact, I'll get my nipples pierced with no numbing agents if they lose to the bungles.

It ain't happening.

Now, I'm told that Mr.

Philipponi has made bets and promises like this before.

He's like a serial better, and he doesn't follow through on them.

I mean,

this one is so specific that we were joking about in the cave, but like, this sounds like a guy who has wanted to get nipples pierced for his entire life, and he's like, I'm just going to throw it out there for this.

Like, I'm going to get, hey, guys, don't make me get my nipples pierced.

Oh, no, now I got to get my nipples pierced.

Yeah, you wanted, Andrew, you wanted your nipples pierced.

Just admit it.

You're a freak, and that's fine.

We're a sex positive podcast.

You're a freak and you want your nipples pierced and you want them rubbed and now you can do it.

Hey, if JMU loses this weekend, I'm going to go out and I'm going to eat a full rack of ribs and I will drink the coldest beer that I can find on Saturday night.

Boy, I hope they don't.

If Wisconsin loses to Ohio State on Saturday, this guy right here, 10 wings on Sunday.

10 wings?

10 wings.

That's crazy.

I'm going to need 10 wings.

And some nachos.

And some nachos and maybe some ice cream.

You know what?

You know what?

If the commanders beat the Cowboys on Sunday...

No, if the Commanders lose to the Cowboys on Sunday, I will do a 12-hour flight simulator marathon, and I won't stop the entire time.

I'm going to be in the air, and I'm going to do it.

And I really hope that it doesn't come to that.

Because, man, that's a lot of time to play video games.

Yeah, that's a lot of time.

You sure, PFT?

Yeah, I'm sure.

That's how much I believe in my life.

You sound like a guy who wants to get his nipples pierced.

That's how much.

No, you you don't.

Maybe the third one.

If you got your nipples pierced, I would judge you so much.

What about just the third one?

We don't judge each other here.

That one's not even sensitive.

Yes, you do.

If you became a nipple-pierced guy, it would change the entire course of this podcast.

You know that.

Yeah, I mean, we already saw Cuomo in the debates tonight.

Nobody likes a nipple-piercing guy.

Unbelievable, though.

Great game.

Thursday night football.

This is why we watch.

These are the types of games where I walk away from, and I'm like, yeah, that's why I sit through Jets and Broncos in London.

That's why I sit through you know crappy Thursday night games later in the season where Al Michaels wants to be anywhere but in that booth I do it because nights like tonight can happen and you're just buzzing and it sets the stage for a great football weekend so did you see Joe Burrow pregame you see Joe's haircut he looked very sad he looked very sad he looked very emo

he had like the the floppy almost like the tick-tock hair you know what I'm talking about like that flop that goes down in front but then at halftime he switched up the backwards hat he looked cool again.

Okay, but yeah, Joe, if you're listening to this, the bangs, it makes me sad to see you like that.

It looks like you've been sitting in your room listening to the cure all night.

Yeah, by the way, I will say one thing positive about the Steelers.

Their defense, I don't understand because their defense was supposed to be turning the corner and it got absolutely torched tonight.

And their secondary specifically got abused all night long.

But Aaron Rodgers does have

it.

We had some vintage Aaron Rodgers plays.

The Friar Muth touchdown to take the lead late.

The fact that he threw a Hail Mary 70 yards in the air or whatever it was.

How far was that Hail Mary?

I think it went about.

He still got it.

I think it went about 65 yards in the air.

It was a clean 65.

And yeah, he's the best at throwing Hail Marys.

And he did have some incredible touchdown passes tonight.

The one to Fryer Muth over the defender looked good.

He seems like he also spends like 50% of his time on the field yelling at somebody.

Yeah.

He's like always frustrated that somebody's not motioning in the right direction.

They don't know the right route to run.

But yeah, Aaron Rodgers was not the problem tonight for the Steelers.

No, it's their defense.

And also, unfortunately for the Steelers, you lost the game and you lost the battle as well because Mike Tomlin punted the ball on a fourth and four with like about four minutes left.

And the Steelers did get the ball back.

So that just emboldens him to do it again.

That's like, hey, I was right.

Of course, this is what you're supposed to do.

So he, like, you can't let him have those little wins because now he's going to feel even more bold about it.

Yeah, he will.

The Steelers are also kind of building their entire red zone offense out of, like, the entire, the entire offense is built out of the tight end.

Oh, yeah.

They've got, they lead the league in tight ends.

They'll just throw it to, if you weigh over 240 pounds, they're going to throw a touchdown pass to you.

I mean, their number one receiver is almost a tight end.

Yeah, DK's a tight end.

Yeah, they have, like, hey, he could be DK, Fryermuth, Darnell, Washington, Noah Fant.

They're all tight ends.

They respect Mass.

And also, Darnell Wants.

Not Noah Fant, John Hu Smith.

No fantastic on the banks.

Yes, Darnell Washington, they put his graphic up as 300-plus pounds, which is awesome.

We're not going to say how much because that's HIPAA, but he weighs over 300 pounds.

I think he weighed in at the start of the year, or he's listed at 264.

Yeah.

And then Tomlin's just like, we don't need to tell them exactly how big you are, Darnell, but you are 300-plus pounds.

And that means that the left side of the line was 1,219-plus plus pounds is what they put on the graphic tonight.

You know, the meme,

our good friend Ebo had a good meme.

You know, the meme that

the

office harassment rules where it's like the same thing, and it's Darnell Washington, I'm 6'7, 300 pounds.

And the lady's like, oh, you're sweet.

And then it's Zion Williamson, I'm 6'7, 300 pounds.

Hello, human resources.

Yeah.

Please, someone come get human resources.

We've got a problem.

Somebody suggested I should just list my height as 5'8 plus.

Yeah.

why not?

I think we can go with that.

Yeah, 300 plus pounds for Darnell.

And also, Jamar Chase told us what was going to happen.

Yeah.

The Steelers were going to come in there and try to raw dog them.

Yep.

And they got to be prepared to not let the Steelers raw.

I'd say raw dog averted.

Yeah.

Reverse raw dog.

We know the Steelers are going to come in and try to raw dog us and kill us, but we will be ready for that challenge and waiting for it.

Did you see the stat

at the beginning of the game that was shocking?

The Pittsburgh Steelers, 56 consecutive regular season games with seven or fewer points in the first quarter.

That's insane.

To not have one first quarter in 56 games where it's like, oh, we lucked into having, you know, a turnover in short field and kicked a field goal.

They just cannot score more than seven points in the first quarter.

Yeah, we've been watching the same Steelers game for the last, it feels like 10 years.

Listen.

The offense did look better tonight.

Yeah, Rogers has his arm.

It didn't look like the same old Steelers in terms of running that bland, like weird tight end out, out, run up the middle, run up the middle offense.

Yeah.

They mixed it up a little bit, but yeah, the defense, Jalen Ramsey getting burnt by T.

Higgins.

And credit to T.

Higgins for going down and not scoring a touchdown.

Yeah.

Because you know that he wanted to score very, very deeply.

Yeah.

And yeah, he made the smart play, went down.

Evan McPherson cleaned it up.

So great game.

I have the exact stats, by the way.

Next-gen stats said Aaron Rodgers-Hail Mary pass attempt that resulted in incompletion, traveled 69.8 yards in the air, the longest recorded pass attempt since at least 2017.

That's pretty crazy.

That is wild.

Aaron Rodders still got that arm.

Still got it.

He's still got that arm.

Do you see the Darnell Washington 6'7 dance that he did in the end?

No, I didn't.

Yeah, he did the 6'7.

I pretended.

I was like, I get it.

I was gonna say, I saw it.

I get it.

But I didn't know what he was doing.

Yeah, it's a 6.

Yeah, yeah.

6'7.

I heard that 41.

Zach, give it to us.

6'7.

What does it mean?

It ended up being like a 2K.

It was in a lot of 2K edits, but it initially came from a rap artist, Skrilla, out of Philadelphia.

He's got a music video on Kensington, and it's in one of his songs, and the song blew up on TikTok, and then it went into like AU basketball edits, and it doesn't mean anything.

I heard that

good explanation.

4-1 is the next up.

41.

41.

Is that right?

There's a couple camps pushing that.

A couple camps?

Are they camps I want to get involved in?

I think it's like August, I think, but fell off.

Yeah.

Hank, do you appreciate that Zach's here now to explain these things to us?

Very much.

Yeah, you can just check out on that.

I mean, I didn't really know what that was in the first place, but I will, like, I didn't know any of that.

I knew it was a rap song.

I think I said this, but my kids know 6'7.

So I'm getting closer and closer to.

I'm gonna get lapped at some point.

I mean, they're closer in age to.

Well, no, Zach, you're 27, right?

28.

Oh,

but you're in the you're in the culture.

I try to be relatively tapped in.

Yeah, what's the culture feeling?

I think

6'8 has to feel like chopped liver.

69 is a sex number.

6'7 is now the cool new number.

What's wrong with me?

You got nothing.

Should we talk a little baseball before we do picks and preview?

Dodgers,

again, they're unfair, but I mean, what are you going to say?

I'm more jealous than anything.

They're so good.

Oh, yeah, we got Tyler Glasnow.

Let's just roll him out there.

It's nuts.

And they're, you know, Shohei

hit a triple to start the game

where he basically threw the bat at the ball.

And it's just, it's nuts.

The broadcast, too, at one point was like the Dodgers are so talented that they're able to keep some of their

incredible aces in, you know, in the farms or in like rehab starts until they need them in the playoffs.

I wouldn't say like that.

It's the money.

It's the money that they're able to do it because of.

It's not like they just have so much talent that they've built up.

They just have got all the good players.

They're in a great spot where they can just bring awesome guys in that they've already paid for.

Yes.

Yeah.

No, I agree with that 100%.

Yeah.

And I just need the Brewers to win a game because we just need more baseball.

We can't just have one series end in a sweep.

I don't think they're going to win a game.

We need the Brewers to try.

I don't think they're going to win.

Just try, Brewers.

And then the Toronto Blue Jays, the Jays are back.

They absolutely kicked the shit out of the Mariners in the first two games.

No team has won a home game yet.

That was a,

what is it, Wednesday night was

a dong fest.

Was it eight home runs in that game?

Crazy.

And then tonight they did the same thing where they just beat the shit out of me.

Yeah, every time I was looking over, I put that on the second screen.

That game got demoted to second screen on Wednesday night.

And every time I looked over at it, it was another dong leaving the stadium.

And then by the end of it,

there was a sad dong from the Mariners that left the stadium.

And I think Cal touched the Trident, the home run Trident.

He didn't want to pick it up and demonstrate with it, which credit to him for having a sense of the moment.

But yeah, there's nothing like

a sad home run prop being enacted.

Yeah, that was tough to watch.

We got a prop off between these two teams because we've got the Trident and then the jacket on the Jays.

They got that cool jacket they put on.

Also, congrats to our friend Jeff Passon.

He gets to go back to the Imperial Pub.

Yeah, good for him.

Yeah, so this series is going back to Toronto, whether it be 3-2 Mariners or 3-2

Blue Jays, we don't know.

But it's an awesome series.

I would love for it to go seven.

Two franchises that really, really, like fan bases that deserve it, want it, bad, fun stories.

Will they get smoked by the Dodgers?

Probably, but I don't care.

Just get there.

Yeah.

Chip in a chair.

You know what?

If you get to the World Series, if you're in the American League and you get your ass kicked kicked by the Dodgers, you get some sick t-shirts out of it.

Yeah.

American League champions.

You get an actually, we talked about it, like the celebration that these teams do.

If whoever wins the ALCS should really celebrate.

Yeah.

Celebrate like you won the World Series.

Yeah.

In fact, you know what?

That's my world champion is going to be the American League champion.

Yeah.

I like that.

But the baseball, yeah, I mean, the Dodgers have kind of ruined.

I don't want to do the Dodgers have ruined the sport,

but if they sweep the Brewers and like win the World Series in four or five, then yeah, I'm ready to say they're yeah.

The problem with the Dodgers is, yes, they have completely cornered the market on awesome baseball players, but their players are still very fun to watch.

Yeah.

Like, I like watching them play.

Correct.

It just feels like a foregone conclusion that they've just amassed so much talent that it's pointless.

Right.

That's fair.

Max, what do you think?

Baseball guy, our baseball expert.

I don't want to make this about myself.

But

the Phillies are going to be the only team that had a shot.

They were in every single one of those games.

They should have won at least

one of those three to at least force game five.

I think the Dodgers are going to beat the fuck out of every other team, and it's not even going to be close.

So, America, we had our chance with the Phillies.

We did.

But

I don't want to make it about me or make it about the Phillies.

I'm not going to make it about Philadelphia.

But if you guys had beaten the Dodgers in the first series, would you guys have then won the World Series or who would have beaten you?

We would have choked, choked, but

we could have beat the Dodgers.

We could have beat the Dodgers.

Yeah, if you had won that game, you would have beaten the Dodgers.

I actually believe that.

They could have won either, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.

Don't make it about yourself.

Also, shout out to him.

I'm not making it about myself.

Shout out to Max Scherzer.

Yeah.

Ageless Wonder.

I mean, he was awesome tonight.

He was five and two-thirds, two-earned runs, like

screaming at his manager.

Yeah.

When he was about to get pulled from the game, he just yelled, like, get the fuck off my mound.

I love Mad Max, man.

He is absolutely insane.

I love that he's still out there doing it, still throwing some gas.

And the Toronto Blue Jays have great uniforms.

Yep.

Great, great uniforms.

Love them.

Okay.

I think that's it.

Let's get to our week seven picks in preview.

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I love Joe Flacco so much.

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All right, boys, week seven.

We're going to London again.

We're going back across the pond again for a London game.

By the way, week seven, this does feel like the point in the season where we're going to start separating some of the contenders, pretenders, maybe some last-ditch efforts from a couple teams that are hanging on by just a thread.

Yep.

I think we might see some teams with good records kind of show themselves to maybe not be that good this week.

Yep.

We have the Texans and the Bills are on by.

So

Ravens.

Or sorry, Ravens.

Yeah, sorry.

The Ravens and the Bills.

All right, let's get into the games.

We have

starting on Sunday morning, the Rams and the Jaguars.

The

Rams are three-point favorites right now.

Over-under is 44.5.

The Rams are going to London on Saturday, which I don't love.

The Jaguars are going on Tuesday, which is fine.

The Rams are going from Baltimore where they've been all week.

They've actually been practicing on Camden Yards field, which is kind of cool.

It is kind of cool.

McVay said that they might not be able to practice some of the vertical shots that they would like because there's just not enough grass in a baseball outfield.

They're saying that they're more limited with some of the vertical grass, is what he said.

He said that might be a good thing.

And Devontae Adams said that the defense is probably not thrilled about having 25 yards of field to practice on, but they're working on a lot of red zone stuff.

Okay.

So kind of making do.

Is Puka Nakua playing?

I don't think that he is.

That's a big question.

If you have like a sprained ankle and you get on a plane, plane, that makes it swell up more, right?

Yeah, although it's been whatever, maybe that's why they waited till Saturday.

Maybe like we got to get Puka's swelling down before we can leave.

Strictly for Puka?

I actually don't think that that would be that crazy.

That's that important.

That might be it.

So he's questionable.

I don't know if he's been practicing.

We'll find out more on Friday, but he's obviously the heart and soul of their offense.

I got some interesting stats about the Rams and how good they've been against the spread.

Okay.

We haven't really talked about the Rams against the spread, but I looked into it.

They're 11-3 against the spread in their last 14 games.

One of those was the blocked field goal by the Eagles that got returned and switched.

If they just missed that field goal, they cover.

They should be 12-2 at that point.

And then there was the fumble at the goal line by Kyron Williams on that Thursday night.

That would not necessarily have made them cover, but it would have put them in a position where they could cover that game if you didn't fumble it.

So the Rams are just knocking people out against the spread recently.

Yes.

The big story, story, though, of this game is:

are we taking the Jaguars because Travis Hunter already got baptized before the game last Sunday?

Well, you can get born again.

Yeah.

So Skip Bayless.

That was a seeing Skip Bayless have a 28-minute video on Travis Hunter being selfish for getting baptized before the game on Sunday.

Yeah.

Didn't expect that take.

Well, there it was.

Yeah, I thought it'd be an hour.

I thought it'd be more material than that.

But yeah, just when you think Skip's, he doesn't have his fastball anymore.

He comes out with Travis Hunter, lost that game because he dedicated his life to the Lord on Sunday morning when he should have been thinking about football.

I didn't think about that.

I kind of kicked myself for not having that take before Skip did.

Yep.

But

I also have to just take my hat off to Skip Bayless because the man, he still has it.

Still got it.

He still has it.

We also have the fun Liam Cohn used to be Sean McVay's coffee guy.

He was explaining when he first started with the Rams.

He actually was the one who was drawing up the plays for Sean McVay and learning how Sean McVay's brain works.

And said he got a ton of access to Sean McVay that most other coaches wouldn't get.

So I think there is some fondness there.

Does Liam Cohen maybe know something about Sean McVay that he could take advantage of?

Well, they both do the sign stealing stuff according to Ron Moxala.

So who's going to be stealing signs from who in this game?

Yeah.

Also, we should mention, I said this last week.

I'll say it again because it reigns true again, but the Rams have yet to give up a 20-plus yard run on the season.

Yeah, that's crazy.

That's pretty good.

Did you know that since 2007, we've had 41 games in London, and this is only the second time that both teams have a winning record

in a game.

So this is maybe the best matchup that London has ever seen.

And the Jaguars are London's team.

They are London's team.

They are, yeah.

I, again, don't like these early mornings when we have to do them every single week.

Goodell's taking advantage of us.

I don't know if we talked about this on this show, but I was thinking that there should be a different way that we decide which teams go over to London.

And it's just a fan vote on Monday morning.

Yeah.

It's like the worst matchup of the week.

Yeah.

Send that one over to London.

Just like, I don't know, pretend that.

Just stop.

Is this it for a while?

Are we done for a while?

I think so.

I think we're done for a while.

And then look at the schedule, Max.

I think there's two more.

I know there's the Madrid game that you got to play,

yeah i do um you're gonna be jet-lagged from that years pinned back i'm gonna fly out on tuesday if that's okay yeah get acclimated all right so we have this is the second to last or third to last sunday november 9th in berlin sunday november 16th in madrid so we got germany and spain and then we're done but we do have a little break so we don't have a game overseas for the next few weeks at least and this is actually like i i know that a lot of the complaints are like well we watched the broncos jets that game sucked

the Steelers or the Browns versus the Vikings.

I actually am like more mad when it's two potentially playoff teams having to go to London.

Yeah.

Play that game in front of American fans and play it under like on a regular Sunday like slot.

You're right.

Like send the worst games.

Yeah, Browns Dolphins should be in London this weekend.

Wow.

I'm excited for that game.

Let's actually do that game next.

Browns Dolphins.

Wait, do you know anyone who actually watched all 28 minutes of the Skip Bayless video by Travis Hunter?

No.

I need to find somebody that's watched that entire thing.

I made it through about a minute and a half.

Yeah.

I didn't even click on it.

Even for Skip, it was a shocking take.

Yeah, it was.

Dolphins-Browns.

Let's talk about this game.

So, this is back, this is the noon slate.

Browns are two and a half-point favorites.

The over-under is 37.5

because

we have the first ever matchup of, oh, it's actually 36.5 right now.

The first ever matchup of

two Hawaiian lefties who can't really throw the ball playing quarterback in really shitty Cleveland weather.

There's reports right now, which I don't believe these reports this early of like 50 to 60 mile an hour gusts and rain.

I got to wait till game day to figure this out.

But on paper, this could be

a very fun, horrific game.

It could be ugly.

I had the same reaction.

When I saw the initial report of 50 to 60 mile-an-hour wind gusts possible, I got excited, as I do anytime they forecast like the first snow football game of the year.

I get excited by it, and then you dig deeper into the forecast.

It's like probably like 20 to 30 mile-an-hour winds.

Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be up to, I hope it's up to 50, I hope it's up to 70.

I would love to see that, but it's always

going to be better than what was promised.

Yes, if it was 60, that would be a great football game to watch, especially, yeah, two left-handed Hawaiian-born starting quarterbacks playing a lot

for the first time.

Yeah, that don't.

So, so Dylan Gabriel broke one of Tua's passing records in high school in 2018, but it's weird they do not.

They asked Dylan Gabriel.

He's like, yeah, we don't really talk.

You'd think lefty Hawaiian quarterbacks would be like the brotherhood.

Ooos.

Yeah.

Ooz ball, yeah.

Double ooss.

Ooz.

Yeah.

Lefty ooze.

Actually, the Hawaiian word for left-handed is lima hema.

Okay.

Which is kind of cool.

That is cool.

Tua also had to apologize this week.

He said, I made a mistake.

We talk a lot about we got to get this going, come in excited for work and forget about the noise.

And I feel like I just added on that for our guys.

He's talking to, obviously, about him saying there's people not showing up to player-only meetings and they lack leadership, even though he's the quarterback.

We're all trying to find the guy who did this.

It's bad.

I love the Browns in this game, by the way, because

the Dolphins have the worst rush defense in the NFL.

They are giving up 5.6 yards per carry.

That's 30th.

They've allowed the most rushing yards in 1,011 yards.

I think this is going to be a Quinchon Judkins, get him going, make it as easy as possible for Dylan Gabriel.

And the Browns' defense at home has always been good.

And I feel like they might be able to win a game.

Yeah, I think this is a matchup of

what's the best unit.

The best unit is the Browns' defense.

Yeah.

That's the only good unit that we're going to see.

Especially if the weather's bad.

Especially, yeah.

And that defense is going to play well if it's just really, really shitty outside.

The Browns defense can definitely make Tua uncomfortable.

The Browns being a favorite makes me a little nervous.

Yeah, I kind of like it even more.

So

I looked into Mike McDaniel's stats in terms of teams that he's played with losing records and teams that he's played with winning records.

Do you have a guess for what his record is against winning teams?

Mike McDaniel.

Yeah, as a head coach.

One win.

3-15.

Okay.

I know it's bad.

And against teams with losing records, I guess 500 and below.

He's got to be like 12 and 5 no he's uh 26 and 13.

oh wow against those teams so much much better against bad teams yeah good teams so this is a bad team but a good unit but a good unit yeah and dylan gabriel and quincheon judkins and dylan gabriel said that uh after he got beat up by the steelers he said i'm uh i'm used to it my mom used to beat my ass when i was a kid so nothing will compare to that

i'm just kidding he wrote he said i'm just kidding at the end

but also

now i think your mom probably beat your ass.

Now, I think he probably has a little bit of grit to him.

Yeah, yeah.

This is going to be a bad one.

What game are we going to put on main TV?

Vikings Eagles?

No?

Oh,

Max is shaking his head.

He shook it off.

Should we just embrace the suck and put this on main TV?

No, it might be so bad it's good.

Like, I don't want to put...

Saints Bears.

I mean, obviously I would prefer that, but I'm not going to try to say that we need to put the Saints or the Bears on

sound.

I'd rather that or Vikings Eagles, I think.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right, Max.

You don't want Vikings Eagles on sound?

We'll get to it.

Okay.

All right.

We will get to it.

All right.

Let's talk Saints, Bears.

The Bears are right now, what is it?

Four and a half.

Four and a half.

It's gone down to four and a half.

It was five and a half.

Point favorites.

This is a game that the Bears have to win.

I'm dubbing it a must-win because the Bears are,

you'd think, better better than the Saints.

Over-under is 46.5.

Uh, they must win this game.

They must win this game.

They have to win this game.

If you're going to be a good team, which they're not yet, they're in the process of trying to become a good team.

They must win this game.

Do you think that these two quarterbacks hate each other?

Well, yeah.

So, Caleb Williams took Spencer Rattler's job, and Spencer Rattler was asked about it, and he was just like, Yeah, I guess we're cordial.

He was like, I respect him.

I think he's a great player.

He gave like the most boilerplate answers ever.

Yep.

Which sounds to me like Spencer Rattler has learned what to say instead of being honest.

Yes.

Because

if you're Spencer, you have no choice but to hate that guy, right?

Yeah.

Like he took your job.

You were the anointed king of Norman, Oklahoma.

And then all the fans turned on you.

It felt like in one game, they just turned on him.

And then, yeah, he went on to South Carolina.

And then Caleb left.

And then Caleb left.

And now he's like, what the fuck?

Did you take my job?

Then you left.

I feel like he has to hate Caleb.

He's going, I would say yes, because he's going with the It Was a Blessing in Disguise route.

Yeah.

That's always a telltale sign.

It is a so a revenge game for Spencer Rattler.

Is it a revenge game for Saints players against Dennis Allen?

Yes.

Or is it a love game because they probably like Dennis Allen?

Because he was there.

Obviously, they didn't like him as a head coach, but he was also there for 15 years.

Yeah.

So he was there.

Obviously, they don't have like the rosters turned over, but

he was there for a long time with the Saints.

Well, I was going to say, do you think it's a Dennis Allen revenge game?

It might be.

Even though, although shout out to the Saints for keeping him as the head coach for so long.

I was going to say, Dennis Allen can't be like, oh man, I can't believe they fired me.

Yeah.

How would that work?

He probably, when he got fired, he's like, yeah, that makes sense.

I would have fired me a while ago.

Yeah, he probably spent the last eight weeks of his job wondering if today's the day that he's going to get fired.

Yeah.

Which I guess is also torture against a man.

Yep.

So yeah, I don't think that I don't think Dennis Allen has any right to be upset at the Saints for keeping him gainfully employed.

I don't know.

I don't know if the Saints, if the players like liked Dennis Allen or not, though.

I feel like they would have.

I feel like he's one of those guys because he was a coordinator for so long before the head coach.

I feel like there's never been anyone saying that he didn't like Dennis Allen.

They just said Dennis Allen can't head coach.

Yeah.

Speaking of head coaches, the Bears under Matt Everflus were 6-20 in one score games.

They're now 2-1 in one score games with Ben Johnson.

Yeah.

Culture is changing.

Also, Bears are the only team to score at least 21 points in each of their first five games.

They've They've scored in 18 of their 20 quarters this season, which is pretty good.

That is pretty good.

Yeah, if you're looking at the first quarter stuff, the Saints have allowed touchdowns on each of their opponents' first two possessions in their last four games.

This is a Ben Johnson script game.

I'm very worried about this game because I do think Spencer Rattler is not that bad.

No, he's not.

And

this is like a, hey, you know, big Monday night win, feeling like, you know, like things are going well.

Fall flat on your face, spot.

So I'm a little nervous.

Also, the Troy Aikman stuff continued all week.

I guess Caleb was grinding tape so hard he missed the meeting with Troy Aikman.

That's why Troy Aikman maybe blasted him extra.

Oh, is that what happened?

Yeah, he was asked about it in a press conference.

He's like, yeah,

I missed the meeting with him because I was working on the game plan.

I tried to call him.

He didn't pick up.

I don't know what else to say.

And then Troy held that against him.

Yeah, which I'm fine with.

Troy can hold it against him.

Also, USC quarterback, UCLA guy, Troy probably baked in there somewhere.

Yeah.

So I did see some of the some of the side-by-side comparisons of each player's like first 23 games or whatever, Caleb Williams versus Troy Aikmans.

I saw those going around.

It's always very funny to see those with Troy Aikman because Troy Aikman was bad when he first got into the league

for the first like year and a half.

Let me, so I don't like that Troy Aikman trashed Caleb Williams, but I also don't care because it's like, hey, you got that camp.

If Caleb ends up, you know, progressing and being awesome, we'll just be like double birds at Troy Aikman.

Who cares

we got to stop real we got to start realizing i feel like there's like a new group of nfl fans that don't realize just how different the game is now because i saw troy aikman side by side with ryan tannehill and people were like how is troy aikman a hall of family ryan tannehill was better and then

Someone quote you with like, hey, here's adjusted for era.

And it was just like Troy Aikman was so much better.

Yeah, Troy Aikman was awesome.

I mean, he was bad for his rookie year.

His numbers look bad because he played in a different era.

And it was a bad team when he first got to the league.

And probably until like the second, maybe start of the third year.

That's when he started playing well.

But yeah, if you look at Caleb Williams' stats compared to Troy Aikman's, Caleb takes shit on him, but it could be anybody from that.

Every single person, yeah, in this era.

Yeah, you could do Spencer Rattler versus Troy Aikman, and you'd be like, damn, Spencer Rattler, future Hall of Fame.

Joe Namath had more interceptions than touchdowns.

Yeah.

Do you think that Spencer Rattler has a future as a starting quarterback in this league?

Maybe.

I think he might.

Maybe.

I think he might.

And

I feel strong about maybe.

Have we heard the name Tyler Shuck in the last six weeks?

I have not.

I think is he hurt?

Is he?

I thought something happened to him.

I think he might have gotten hurt.

What's that Paul George story?

We're talking football.

What's that Paul George story?

He will not be available for the season, Obert.

Open up.

Shocking.

No.

Joel and Bi, they're hopeful he will be.

So good news, too.

Oh, no.

That's good news.

You don't say oh, no to that.

Okay.

Tyler Shuck, he held out for a fully guaranteed contract, so he probably didn't get enough training camp.

That's what people are saying.

Okay.

We haven't even heard, like, oh, is it time to switch to Shuck now?

That's how good Spencer Rattler's been on a shitty team.

Oh, he's the backup.

So he has been the backup.

So he's not hurt.

Yeah, it said.

Well, this is from October 4th.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't think Spencer Rattler's been playing that bad.

Hank, are you going to be putting the Bears in the Hungry or the Saints in the Hungry Dogs?

I haven't put it in officially, but it's looking like a yes.

It's looking like a yes.

Yeah, it's just a letdown spot for the Bears.

And

I've been very honest about the Bears.

They are.

And the...

The Saints were in the game against the Patriots.

They were moving the ball in the first quarter.

They had two penalties on their first two drives that stopped.

They were field goal drives instead of touchdown drives, but they were moving the ball and in that game till the end.

Yeah.

The Bears are definitely in the category.

Our defense is not good, and we have turned the ball over.

We've taken the ball away.

If those takeaways go away, it could look a lot different.

We're living and dying on takeaways right now as a defensive unit.

So that could always just be one of those situations where, like, oh, like kind of similar to the Jaguars.

Jaguars, you know, started, what was it, five and one, four and one,

have takeaways in every single game.

Then they play the Seahawks, don't take the ball away, lose to the Seahawks.

So that could happen at any point because the Bears are number one in takeaways this year.

Do you think that you figured something out on Monday with your rush defense?

No.

Not at all.

It was good.

Your running defense was legitimately good.

No, I think what they figured out is they have to kind of sell out.

Basically, the defensive strategy is sell out for the run and hope you turn the ball over in the passing game.

We have gotten a little healthier in the secondary, but yeah, it's it was a lot of kind of sell out and try to stop the run.

And do we have Cairo Santos this week?

Are we going back to Moody?

Uh, if Cairo Santos is healthy, he is a starting kicker.

Do you know if he's healthy?

I do not, but he is a starting kicker.

He did not lose his job for injury.

Okay, uh, okay, next game: uh,

Hank, the Patriots going to the Titans.

Brian Callahan fired Mike McCoy,

now coaching for the Titans.

Will that light a fire up the Titans' ass?

I feel like in these situations, it goes one way or the other.

Like they, that could happen.

They could also lose by 40.

So the Titans could win or lose the game.

They could maybe cover, I think, because the players are motivated, or they could respond negatively and just get like it's a complete train wreck.

So which one are you thinking about?

I'm thinking lose by 40.

Now, I think that Mike McCoy is not the type of interim coach to get that typical interim coach bump.

Like, I'm scared of this guy.

I'm fired up by this guy bump.

He seems more like a, well, at least it's not Brian Callahan, which is good for something.

It's probably good for a couple points.

Yeah, but the players, like, they're having a bad year.

They're, you know, QB is saying they're ass.

You got to think about just them, you know, coming into the building.

And like you said, I don't think Mike McCoy is someone that changes, oh, we got Mike McCoy.

Now let's come in the building fired up, ready to win.

A visor interim coach that rarely seen.

I think

this is Patriots Keep the Foot on the Gas.

Yeah.

Although there's

so many people think the same thing.

There's so much money ped on the Patriots that it scares me.

That should be one of the things that we use to figure out who the interim coach should have been.

Are they a visor guy?

If they're a visor guy, not an interim head coach.

Fat guys, always interim head coach.

Yeah, big guy, if you don't wear a hat at all, that's an interim head coach.

Shaved head, interim head coach.

Yep.

Ball cap, usually interim head coach.

Visor doesn't feel like interim head coach material to me.

No, I'd agree.

I feel like they.

I think the Titans are going to rally for Mike McCoy, but I don't know if they are.

Like, they might just be such dog shit that a rally doesn't even look good enough to cover a game.

Yeah, and I also feel like the Patriots are going to rally for Mike Vrabel.

Yeah.

Like, this is the ultimate revenge game.

Although, the sting's taken out of it a little bit, given that the guy that replaced him got fired.

And he texted him.

Mike Grable said that he texted Brian Callahan because he's like, listen, nobody texts you when you lose.

And he's like, I appreciate everyone who texts me when I got fired.

So reached out.

We have an update.

He also might have reached out and been like, hey, tell me.

Tell me some things.

Yeah, which.

Like, fuck those guys.

Let's really put it to them.

If I was Brian Callahan, I would absolutely

everything.

The Titans will not be doing a video tribute to Mike Grable

at this game, in case anybody is wondering.

Yeah.

It's rude.

The Titans are also 0-10 against the spread in their last 10 home games.

I got a blind resume for you guys.

Oh.

QB1,

1,000, this is through six games, 1,100 passing yards, three touchdowns, four interceptions, four fumbles lost, 25 sacks taken.

QB2,

1,266 passing yards, 7 TDs, 2 interceptions, 2 fumbles lost, 19 sacks taken.

I think one's Cam Ward.

Yep.

Two is Will Levis.

Interesting.

Numbers.

Great quarterback.

Significantly better.

I got a blind resume because I am a big, big Drake May believer.

Been very public about that.

I think he's an awesome quarterback.

The start of his career has been unreal.

So I looked up his stats for Hank just to show him some things that maybe he hasn't seen before.

And we have a blind resume.

Max, can you put that up?

Try to figure out which quarterback is which.

Max is going to put it up on the screen.

Oh, it's a video.

It's a video, yeah, because we're going to fade in their actual faces here.

Take a look at those.

373 completions,

67% completion percentage, 4,000 yards, 23 touchdowns, 14 interceptions.

Wow.

92 passwords.

Talk about it.

The guy on the left is Tom Brady, and the guy on the right is Drake May.

Actually, no, the guy on the left is Mac Jones.

Those are Mac Mac Jones' first 18 games in the NFL, and that's Drake Mays on the right.

Pretty crazy.

It is pretty crazy.

I mean, Josh McDaniels, I think people aren't giving enough credit to Josh McDaniels.

He was Mac Jones' OC early on when he was a Pro Bowler.

He's been with Drake May.

I just think people, you know,

he should get more credit for how good of an offensive coordinator is.

He's a very good offensive.

Really bad head coach.

That's fine.

Really bad.

He's not our head coach.

Yeah.

I appreciate it do you do you have any comment on pft making this graphic for you no i mean it's a it's a fair graphic i again like mac jones there was there was there was time where there was you know pro bowler yeah yeah mac joneses don't grow on trees but yeah no that that doesn't that doesn't really phase me or change anything i think that uh that mac jones actually has kind of revived the mac jones name based on how he's played for the niners oh big time he might be the next like baker mayfield sam darnold why did we let these guys leave town

as long as he doesn't laugh every time he laughs, I cringe.

Yeah.

Do you guys, Cam Ward said to Mike Silver this week, once I play how I want to play, I think the league will be fucked.

Do you think he'll ever play how he wants to play?

Does he mean like the league will be fucked?

Like nobody will want to watch it?

I don't know.

But he said, once I play how I want to play, I think the league will be fucked.

That's a nice quote, though, because you can just be like, if he sucks forever, he's like, I never got how I wanted to play.

I like like his honesty yeah no he's he's very direct and he's a cool story from like his entire rise through college football

but are we worried about the league being fucked i'm not worried about the league being fucked but

i am worrying about the league sucking

if like cam ward plays the way that he wants to play yeah yeah yeah he's just so bad it's well it seems like he plays the way that he wants to play already like he's already doing whatever comes to his head when he's back there he's like yeah fuck it i'll throw it across my body I don't care.

I do think that Cam Ward has the potential to be a very good quarterback, but again, we're going to have to wait until next season to know anything about the guy.

By the way, the last four QBs taking number one overall have had their head coach fired during their rookie campaign: Cam Ward, Brian Callahan, Cale Williams, Matt Eberflues, Bryce Young, Frank Reich, and Trevor Lawrence Urban Meyer.

So, not as having the number one pick, maybe not always what it's

set up to be.

Yeah, yeah.

Hank, I do have a good stat about your defense.

The Patriots still haven't allowed 50 rushing yards to a ball carrier this season.

Oh, that's pretty crazy, isn't it?

Yeah.

50.

50.

That's really good.

Really good.

Good team.

Okay, next game.

Raiders, Chiefs.

Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl.

Chiefs are minus 11.5.

They just keep getting guys back.

The over-under is 45.5.

This game is pretty simple to me.

The Chiefs have scored 28-plus points in the last three games.

Their offense is humming.

Can the Las Vegas Raiders score 16 points?

I say no.

I think they might

only because I think the Chiefs are going to score a lot of

28 points.

Yeah, I think the Chiefs are going to kick off a lot to the Raiders.

Okay.

So the Raiders might be able to get 16.

Rashid Rice coming back this week.

Yep.

It will be a different Chiefs offense.

This is also a sneaky Patrick Mahomes always goes like he, the Raiders have beaten him a few times.

Max Crosby has beaten him up a few times.

There is that bad blood of like, remember they did Coach Gruten, who's who's coming up in a minute,

the bus ride around Arrowhead, the Kermit the Frog video last year.

So this is a true rivalry, and Mahomes, I feel like, steps it up in these games.

Yeah,

the Raiders are, they're bad.

They're a very bad football team.

Gino is just a bummer.

He's just a fucking bummer to watch right now.

How much worse?

How bad does it have to get to go to Kenny Pickett?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I feel like a three-interception game might do it.

Yeah, he's definitely able to do that.

He's got 10 on the season.

He's got that in him.

Did you watch Rashi Rice's hype video that he made for himself?

I did not.

I watched it.

Was it good?

I thought that he was like coming back from a debilitating injury or something off the field that was

a heartbreaking story.

But in reality.

And then I had to remind myself he's coming back from hitting somebody with his car.

Yeah, going way too fast.

Yeah.

And being a dangerous person.

Yeah, it's like a pretty crazy hype video that he made for himself.

The return of R.R.

Listen, we all find adversity in different ways, right?

Wow, the return of R.R.

Yeah, everyone's talking about it.

He's in a pool.

Band work.

Band work.

Be careful, Anthony Richardson.

He's pushing.

And now he's back.

Now he's back and ready to go.

Yeah, this is going to be unfair.

The Chiefs are going to be really good.

Like, they've

their offense looks completely fine.

Yeah.

And they still have Spaggs and Chris Jones.

He's got a YouTube.

How many subscribers does he have on YouTube?

Rashi Rice?

Yeah.

What kind of content is he putting out?

Probably just workout,

defensive driving.

I'd like to see this.

Rashi Rice.

What has he got going on?

Does he have a YouTube?

It said

maybe he doesn't.

Maybe he hasn't dropped his YouTube yet.

Oh, this is...

Yeah, it's like pre-subscribed.

Yeah,

he's coming back, and he's also going to bring a YouTube with him this time.

Watch this space.

Max is not the number one searcher.

I searched his name on YouTube.

I don't know what else I'm supposed to search.

Let's see, Rashi Rice's YouTube channel.

Yep.

But I'm on, I searched his name on YouTube and nothing is showing up.

Okay.

Well, Well, I apologize.

That was rude of me.

Yeah, I like it.

Accept my apology.

I accept.

Thank you.

I like the Chiefs a lot.

That was confusing that he did the YouTube.

We're looking to subscribe, Rashi.

Rashi, if you're listening to this, please let us subscribe.

We need more content, buddy.

Please, let us subscribe.

Okay.

Panthers, Jets.

I don't really know what to say about this game.

The Jets are one and a half point underdogs.

Maybe we put this on main TV.

No.

Over-under is 42.5.

The Panthers stink on the road.

Meow Mix, though, 2-0.

No Garrett Wilson.

This is going to be a tough watch.

A really tough watch.

We do have a new Meow Mix parlay, though.

Okay, give it to me.

For the kids out there.

Panthers are 0-10 against the spread and straight up as a favorite since 2021.

Yikes.

Yikes.

Yikes.

All right, what do we got for the MeowMix parlay?

Gambling for the children, taking the Panthers against the spread.

Programming update: we definitely won't be returning if the Panthers continue to win as we legitimately might be cursed.

Yes.

Update from Meow Mix about that one.

Okay.

Wait, what's the parlay?

They're just taking Panthers against the spread.

Yeah.

So.

Yeah, Panthers against the spread.

That's it.

Gambling for the kids.

Shout out, Meow Mix.

My concern is that Dave Canalis has not won a game this year in a state where they make you take a photo of your ID if you want to access porn online.

And he is a porn addict, a self-described porn addict.

He is.

He is 3-0 in states where they do make you verify your identification, which would be Carolina.

Which would be North Carolina.

Yeah.

But we, yeah.

So he might be up all night beforehand.

So there have been 17 head coaches since 1980 who have started their career head coaching 0-6.

Memes, positive note,

four of them eventually took their teams to the playoffs.

How many lasted the next season?

I don't know how many lasted the next season, but 14 of them or 13 of them did not take their team to the playoff and got fired.

But let's focus on the positive.

Dan Campbell started 0-6.

Zach Taylor started 0-6.

Kyle Shanahan started 0-6.

Jimmy Johnson started 0-6.

It's a good group.

That's a good group.

It's a great group.

Yeah.

The other ones that started 0-6, like Frank Reich, Brian Flores, Hugh Jackson, Gus Bradley, Chan Gailey, Steve Swagnola, Raheem Morris, when he was with the Bucs, Cam Cameron.

Remember that?

Where are we at, memes?

You can win this game.

Oh, we found Rashid Rice's.

He's got 41 subscribers.

Be the 42nd subscriber, Max.

Bang.

Look at that.

That's like, that's pretty 41.

His only video is the hype video.

It's a good hype video.

It tells me big things coming from Rashid Reyes.

Memes, where are we at?

Let's talk it through.

I don't look forward to Sundays anymore.

But the players are playing with pride right now.

Are they?

The players are.

It's not necessarily coaching.

It's not coaching at all.

They're playing with pride.

They're just playing with pride, and that's why they played

decent on the defensive side of the ball last week.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, we can work with that.

We can absolutely work with that.

What do you expect out of the team this week?

More pride.

More pride.

It's pride month.

A lot of people.

More pride.

I'm like slightly rooting for them to go 0-17.

Oh.

Okay, so once the ball gets kicked off, are you rooting for them to lose or are you still rooting for them to win?

Still rooting for them to win, but

in the back of my mind, it's just 0-17 is the only way to like

put a blemish on what woody johnson to be like you're you're the worst owner in professional sports i i i see what you're saying and i i kind of agree where you need it to be you're at the point where it's like i've been there before where it's like you need it to get even worse than it is than it is right now and it is as bad as it could possibly be and you're like we got to go lower in that in that scenario it probably means you're also like the giants being good is better for you yeah it's like the city Yeah, you need the pressure.

The city is like, well, the Giants are making a run.

New quarterback, you know.

You need like video.

You need Woody Johnson to see like videos of like elementary school kids being like, I wanted to be a Jets fan, but I love Jackson Dart and Cam Scatabo.

Like that type of stuff.

Where he's losing fans.

Yeah, and then the other side of that, there was a video from England last week of how they became fans of the Jets, and it was the saddest thing ever.

What would they say?

Was it like pain?

Yeah.

They were just like, became a fan of the jets they never won since but maybe next year probably not we're just trying me hardest trying me hardest

did you know that the panthers now are the second team in nfl history to have 400 total yards 200 rushing yards and 25 first downs in three consecutive games

i did not say it again well the panthers have done it two straight weeks one other team did that for three straight weeks okay and so the panthers could join the 1983 steelers to be the only team that have ever done that.

Okay.

And NFL.

So that's more just showing like the Panthers have been really good for two weeks.

Right.

But we don't know.

We still don't know.

It's been a hot two weeks.

It's been a really hot two weeks, but we still don't know if the Panthers are good.

They're three and three.

That's like, that's great for the Panthers.

Yeah.

But we still don't know, like, how good of a three-three team are they?

Right.

How, uh,

what's the offense?

No, Garrett Wilson.

Who's getting the ball?

Josh Reynolds.

Okay.

Okay.

Are they going to free 20?

Is there going to be a Tyrod Taylor appearance?

I think if Justin Fields doesn't throw the ball, then there will be.

There has to be.

Yeah.

The bright side is you're not playing the Broncos defense or any defense similar to that.

I guess the Browns for the rest of the season.

True.

True.

This game is so bad.

So he should be able to not play that bad.

ever again.

This will be a pretty big test for the Panthers.

They've got to win this game.

Yeah, Bryce is 1-15 on the road.

He's won one game.

It's not a great road record.

Memes, I think this might be the week.

Fuck it.

I'm going to say that.

I'm going to say, New York Jets are going to win a football game this weekend.

Let's go, memes.

The only reason why I think that is they have to be thinking that they just handily beat the Cowboys, and the Cowboys just kick the living shit out of the Jets at home.

So they're probably like, there's no way we lose to this team.

Yeah.

And then they lose to this team.

And then they lose to that team.

This is the week, memes.

You're going to win a game this week.

You're going to celebrate when they win?

Yeah, of course.

Yeah.

Pop the champagne.

We're going to let you talk that shit.

Talk that shit.

You're going to talk that shit.

Kills the week after.

Yeah.

And then a bye?

Well, you go bye, then Browns.

I know, but like a bye will be nice for your mental state.

You'd probably lose to the bye.

No, come on.

Yeah, what if you guys win this week, and then you come back, you beat both Ohio teams, and now you got three wins.

Now you're the guys are the best team in Ohio.

The Jets might be on the precipice of a

three-game winning streak.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

This could be the turn.

Yeah.

The start of the championship DVD.

You guys are mean for doing that.

No, no, look at the schedule, Max.

Talking it out.

Yeah, look at the Jets.

All right, what do you want us to say, Max?

Oh, memes.

The Jets fucking suck dick.

They're going to be 0-17.

You're pathetic.

You should keep being sad.

No, it's going to boost our boy up.

This is the week, memes.

Thank you.

You guys know what you're doing.

No, no.

I'm going to bet the pants.

I'm going to bet.

Oh, shit.

You just said I'm going to bet the pants.

No, it was a Freudian slip.

I'm going to bet the Jets.

Priest Hall.

Jets are good against Spread.

You know what they need to do?

If the Jets can go into this game and just be like, hey, we're running Army's offense.

You've been saying that all year.

Justin Fields, you don't even have to throw.

Maybe a couple passes to the tight end.

Who cares?

Just run it down their fucking throat.

Mason Taylor game.

Yeah.

Yeah, let it fly.

Let it fly.

No, but not now.

Maybe just run.

Hasn't thrown an interception all season.

Let it fly with your feet.

Yeah.

Run like the wind.

He played good that the first week.

Yeah.

I know.

There you go.

That first week was mean.

Yeah, they should have lost 32 to nothing.

Yeah, that was really mean.

The first week.

They should throw five interceptions.

Yeah.

Okay.

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All right.

Vikings, Eagles.

Where are we at?

Mentally.

Vikings are two and a half point dogs.

I think maybe now one and a half point dogs.

They're off a buy.

We don't know who's starting quarterback for the Vikings.

It's leaning towards Wentz, I think.

Leaning towards Wentz, which I think you would prefer to be McCarthy.

Yeah, I think so, too.

One and a half point underdogs.

The Vikings over-under is 43.5.

Where are we at?

This is the do-or-die game.

You're putting this one as the do-or-die game?

Yep.

Wow.

If you lose third week in a row to Carson Wentz when all of this shit is coming out,

they should be mostly healthy.

Was Quinyon Mitchell playing?

Quinyon Mitchell was practicing today.

It's leaning towards looking like he's going to play.

Jalen Carter is definitely going to play.

Okay, that helps.

Lane and Dickerson was practicing today.

Is Adarius Smith playing?

Zadarius Smith has mysteriously retired,

which is

not great.

We talked about this the other day.

You're right.

Forgot about that.

I think that

if they lose this game, I think it comes crumbling down.

But if they win this game,

you can be like, all right, we did this last year early in the season.

We had a little blimp, and then we figured it out.

That's not the word.

A little blimp in the blimp in the radar.

Nope.

It's just a little baby blimp.

A little blimp.

What's the word I was looking for?

Blip.

Blimp.

Blip.

No answer.

Oh, look at that blimp in the radar.

Yeah.

This is a big Goodyear blimp.

I've said blimp every time.

I've always thought that was blimp in the radar.

It's okay.

I'm not a words guy.

That's fine.

But yeah, no,

if we win this game,

you can work back.

If you lose this game, it's looking like two years ago.

Yeah.

There's already been words that, like, the vibes in the locker room feels a lot like two years ago.

Who's been saying that?

Reports.

What reports?

Rossini.

Probably Rossini.

Probably Florio.

I wanna.

What?

What happened?

Whoa.

Say it.

Her husband's a huge birds guy.

How is he letting this happen?

Yeah, that's true.

Every time I read it, that's what I'm thinking.

You think you should suppress the news?

Yeah.

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If it were me, yes.

Withhold sex.

No wife of mine is going to report against the birds.

Correct.

Yeah.

Correct.

Max, I got a question.

I got a question.

I'm not having sex if you keep saying shit about the birds.

Yeah.

I got a question for you, Max.

Would this describe some of the problems with the Eagles' offense this year?

That your passes are too short, there's no real vertical threat at times?

Yeah.

That's been a lot.

Very predictable.

Short passes, not a lot of risks.

Yeah, bad on first down.

Really bad on first and second down.

We can't run the football either.

Yeah, would you say that?

Because

I think they're running like three plays.

Would you say that the run game that used to be a strength is now not dominant anymore?

It is a, yes, it is.

a negative.

Would you say that the offense is too predictable?

Yes.

Would you say that the adjustments are an issue?

Sure.

Maybe adjustments to the offense.

Yes, yes.

I thought you meant like at the line of scrimmage.

No, adjustments like in-game

adjustments.

Those are actually all the criticisms of the offense in 2023 when they had just switched coordinators

after the coordinators.

I got yelled at

a couple weeks ago.

Huh?

What did you say?

I got yelled at for saying that a couple weeks ago.

By me?

Yeah.

Week-to-week league.

Week-to-week league.

Yeah, this is exactly what happened the last time they changed.

Was it Brian Johnson, right?

Yeah.

We're seeing all those criticisms were actually taken from an article that was written in 2023, and it's exactly what's happening right now.

Max, have you thought about

smiling and accepting the challenge?

What?

Just smiling and accepting the challenge.

Is that like a saying?

Have you thought about that?

Accepting the challenge of what?

Of just like losing the last two games.

Smile, just walk in with a smile every day and accept the challenge that you see in front of you.

Is this.

that's what Jalen Hurts said?

He's going to smile and accept the challenge.

Have you thought about doing that?

He's your leader.

Let's start seeing you smile and accepting challenges.

I was smiling.

Asked PFT if I was smiling during the Giants game.

You were laughing, yeah.

He was smiling.

You turned into the game.

He was laughing.

They took the joker.

Yeah.

So, yes, I will be smiling.

If they lose this game, I will be smiling.

Yeah, because you're going to go psycho.

Psycho Max.

Yeah.

If they lose this game,

it's just.

we need a cap guy.

We need a cap guy.

Yeah, we got to get a cap guy.

I don't understand the dead cap, and I don't understand why everyone is saying that A.J.

Brown is going to get traded when he can't get traded.

All right, we're going to do a cap guy next week.

Because I don't get it.

Half of Twitter is saying A.J.

Brown definitely going to get traded.

The other half of Twitter is saying A.J.

Brown cannot get traded because of the dead cap.

And then I looked at dead cap, and then some of them say it's like 90 million, then some of them say it's like 30 million.

I don't get it.

It's 40 million next season if you trade him.

If you trade him right now, it's 40 million next offseason, and then it's 30 million the offseason after that.

That sounds like he's not going to get traded.

Am I an idiot?

Did you know you had a cap guy sitting right next to you?

Are you a cap guy?

Who plays Madden?

Yeah, I have to learn the cap.

Well,

so do you feel like he can't be traded if that's the case?

It feels like that.

So why is everyone saying he's going to get traded?

Because it's fun to say.

It's fun to get you riled up.

No, but it's everywhere.

How many just players?

Corsini will put out a report and be like, an AFC GM thinks that A.J.

Brown's are going to get traded.

How?

How is he going to be traded?

How?

I think

sometimes journalists like to write that just envisioning your reaction.

I think sometimes they write it as for an audience of...

You should call Diana right now and see if her husband's there.

She should be like, dude, what the fuck?

Let's give her a call.

I don't like this.

What the fuck?

This is a closed door.

This is a closed door.

Tell her to stop reporting bad things.

Tell her to stop doing her job when it comes to the Eagles.

Let's try it again.

She can't hear me.

Nope.

Nexted.

Give her a Zoom link.

When she hops in, she hops in.

Give her a Zoom link.

Text PFT the Zoom link.

Give me the Zoom link.

I'll send it to you.

Zoom or Zoom?

Zoom.

Yeah, yeah.

She'll just pop in.

We'll keep going, and if she pops in, we'll get to the bottom of this.

We can actually ask her the cap thing, too.

That's perfect.

This is on the

one that's

reporting.

No, it doesn't matter.

You've turned into memes.

Yeah.

I know.

I know.

I said that.

I did

the meme, two memes of...

What is it?

The Seth Rogan stepbrothers meme?

Help me out.

Help me out.

Come on, guys.

This seems kind of fucked up now.

Yeah, this seems kind of fucked up now.

Whatever she was doing to me.

Memes, do you have any suggestions for Max on how to get over this?

Over Rossini?

Yeah, you've done a pretty good job.

All right, so I got.

Well, she moved on to the Eagles.

Yeah.

Let's talk about this game.

She's here.

She says she'll do it.

So let me just.

Yeah, text me the link.

We'll get her on.

Okay.

Oh, breaking moves.

Breaking moves.

Kurt Signetti has signed a new deal with Indiana for eight years, $11.6 million a year

through November 2033.

Good for him.

Dude, how much does it rock to be that guy, Jimmy Sexton,

the college football agent?

Yeah.

It's just like one pet.

When James Franklin gets fired, who I think James Franklin is his client, he's just like, now I just get to get all my guys more money.

Yeah, if you have one coach that's doing really, really good, it's like, we're going to, one way or another, we're going to make so much money this offseason.

All right, so that's breaking news about Kurt Signetti.

Congrats to Hoosiers fans.

They got to be very excited because that was probably not going to be fun to have to go an entire season of people being like, well, your coach is going to Penn State.

All right, while she's joining, before she joins,

the Vikings are also getting healthy.

Offensive line should be healthier.

They're coming off a buy.

Kevin O'Connell's never played against Vic Fangio defense as a coordinator or head coach.

And Nick Siriani's 8-0 against the NFC North since joining the Eagles.

So a couple stats there.

I do think

the Vikings in the Hungry Dog?

Will you reveal the Hungry Dog at the end of this?

Yeah.

Okay.

But yeah.

They could be.

It could be.

It's

almost definitely.

Is J.J.

McCarthy not.

See what Diana says.

Is J.J.

McCarthy not playing because he's injured or because he's not ready?

Or maybe a little bit of both?

Probably a little bit of both.

Yeah.

Because you would think that he might have tried to.

They might have had him play.

Right.

He would, like, if he's healthy, he should be the starter.

Especially with the offensive line getting healthy.

Right?

Like, ideally, but I don't know.

Seems kind of weird.

Quinyon Mitchell's got to play in this game.

Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison going against no Quinnyon Mitchell would be.

Then it's dead.

If he doesn't play, it's dead.

The season is dead.

Diana's here.

All right.

We're going to let her on.

We got to get to the bottom of this.

I'll let Max.

Okay, Diana's here.

She's in her studio.

Diana.

Max has some questions for you.

He's got a few that you need to answer.

We're in the middle of our

preview, and we're doing Vikings versus Eagles, and your name came up multiple times, so we need some answers right now.

I think you guys brought her name up.

No, you

said you should bring her name up.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because Max said very clearly, I think Diana's putting out a lot of bad information and

she's doing all this bad stuff about the Eagles, like she did to the Jets this year.

I did say that.

She thinks that you're targeting him much in the same way as you targeted me.

I don't know.

But the most important thing he said, Diana, which this is what you first have to address, Max said, I don't understand how Diana is married to an Eagles fan.

I did say that.

And she keeps getting to say bad stuff about the Eagles.

And then we might have said that your husband needs to maybe like withhold sex from you.

You said that.

You said that.

He's got to do something.

I'm going to say it because it's actually happening right now.

Yes, that's my guy.

I love that guy.

I've always loved that guy.

That is so the truth.

Kevin is like, Kev has lost attraction to me since I put out a screen.

Yes.

Like,

I think he thought I was like cute at one point.

I can just tell by the way he passes me in the house.

He's like, you're disgusting.

Yeah.

So, so, like, has he at any point been like, hey, how about let's take it easy on the Eagles?

Because Max wants, you got to take it easy on the Eagles.

Every fucking day.

Okay.

Every day.

He's like, stop.

Okay.

What do you, because what happens is Kev's group chats blow up because they hate like his, he's like, no one likes you anymore.

Like we don't have friends.

My brother-in-law is like, they don't even call my kids to wish them happy birthday because I had them, you know?

Look, here's the thing.

Like, you guys know I understand what happens in Philly when I report this stuff.

I don't do it and go, oh, Max is going to flip out.

Like you guys have known me for so long.

I actually said the opposite.

I said that you do do that.

That you think about Max laughing.

Yeah.

Memes, yes.

Memes.

I didn't

think about the Jets.

I haven't even typed the word Jets this year.

Yeah, you said that you moved on to the Eagles.

You just replaced, you replaced all your Jets' negativity with Eagles stuff.

The worst part is that it doesn't look like she's wrong.

It looks like she's it looks like you're right, which is maybe.

Oh, yeah, she's a reporter.

I know.

But memes' whole whole thing was he would, he would say that she's wrong.

I never said that she was wrong.

I just don't like that you're reporting it.

Yeah, I like that the booth is just figuring out that Diana's not just reporting like random things and just actually.

I never said that.

I know, Max, if anyone knows that I am talking to people, it's you.

You sat next to me on a five-hour flight and saw me.

I mean, if you just looked over instead of sleeping, you would have seen so much action.

My mind was focusing on staying alive.

So I will say one of the one of the things that's is really hard in in my house like kevin can see who i'm talking to and i don't think it's appropriate or professional for me to show him the text from the players or the you know the staff members or whomever it is that i'm talking to

but he wants to see it so most husbands are looking in wives phones to see if there's dudes they're talking to my husband's just looking for eagles intel like he's just like checking all my stuff to see like oh so you didn't tell me that actually this one x asked for a trade, you know?

Uh, that didn't happen, but um, so Max, bottom line, like find a friend, we go back.

It's not good.

I know it's not good, I know it's not good.

But who could have ever seen this coming that the Eagles, if they have like a couple down weeks, the fans flip out on the reigning Super Bowl champions and then want everybody fired?

We never could have seen that coming, Max.

I haven't said that, I haven't said that yet.

Diana, last question, because this is the important one we also got into.

Can the Eagles trade AJ Brown?

What is the cap?

Okay, so right now, I will tell you, because it just was something that I was part of the last few hours, they are not trading him.

Okay.

So,

but look, it's right now.

What happens in the next few weeks if AJ makes this thing so impossible to deal with?

That Howie goes, all right, this has now become a problem.

This is a cancer.

Players don't like each other.

Too many people want the ball.

This can't work.

And he says, All right, well, let's do this.

Let's move it.

They could do it.

It would cost them a lot.

But I can tell you, people around the league that are kind of watching it have been saying that the only way Howie does this is if he thinks that he can get a player who is immediately going to be better than AJ in a position of need, right?

So you guys need pass rush, you need a corner.

Would you take that?

Like, Max, would you be willing to give away AJ Brown for an elite pass rusher?

I don't understand the cap.

That's my whole thing.

Can they trade?

Wouldn't that just fuck us for the next two years?

They can do it.

It's just yes.

So then, why, like, how, how, how could you be put in a better situation with less money and no A.J.

Brown?

Like, I don't understand.

From a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense.

It wouldn't be smart.

But teams do this all the time.

Teams eat it constantly and they just push it down.

You know, they move the ball down the down the field so to speak of going oh we'll deal with it later kick the can is actually the term i was looking for um so yeah like the cap is the is the thing that is going to keep you calm that it won't happen i just think you're crazy if you don't think if it turns bad that it couldn't happen it's just it's just something you got to watch but am i freaking you out yeah a little bit he's freaked out he's freaked out he just doesn't understand the cap i don't the cap freaks me out in general it it annoys me

what she said is you can do it you would be in cap Hell, but like, but then we don't know what Cap Hell looks like.

But wouldn't that, like, I understand teams do that for like Russell Wilson because Russell, like,

you're

not going to be able to do that.

He is a bad quarterback.

A.J.

Brown is still a good wide receiver.

So it's like, it makes so little sense to me that

you would give up a good player and choose to

go into Cap Hell and like make your team worse.

Like, why?

I don't, I don't know.

Why would it make your team worse?

because would you agree that your team actually isn't using aj brown in the best way

yes yes i agree doesn't the identity of the eagles offense doesn't exactly include aj brown it's it they are a run first team they're a run heavy any

run the ball and they're struggling well they're old the the the offensive line is is what like when i talked to the giants after that that game i was like what's like your quick like thought on on the eagles they're like they're beat up up front.

Like, something's not right.

Like, they're injured.

They miss Mackay Beckton.

Yeah.

Right.

And they're just older.

And I know we say that every year and they're always able to overcome it.

But I think this may be the year where it's just hard.

Yeah.

Can we commit to if the Eagles win this week, can you try to write like one positive thing about the Eagles next week?

Just to be like, hey, the team, they're playing really fucking hard and they beat the shit out of those pussies, the Vikings.

Yeah.

Like something to get Max fired up.

All the birds.

I thought you were going to say if the Eagles win, well, can I have sex with a cat?

What about this?

What about just writing, if the Eagles win, just maybe in your notes,

just be like, maybe it was just a blimp in the radar?

No, because it's not.

It's not.

Trust me.

Like, I call Philly before I put this stuff out.

And I think they know, we know, and it may be worse.

So you're saying it's not a blimp in the radar.

It is a blimp.

I said blimp in the radar instead of blip, and he's trying to make fun of me.

Max has been saying blimp in the radar is entirely everyone has those feelings where they have sayings wrong.

I just said kick the ball down that whatever I said, true, yeah, but I mean, blimp is way funny in the radar is very funny, yeah.

That's because I that's because I said it because a blimp could be in a radar, yeah, it would just be really big, and you'd be like, whoa, that's a blimp in the barrel.

Nothing's worse than OBGYN, but

I love you, Hank.

It's my favorite one.

It makes me love you more.

Yes, you're not even that person anymore, Hank.

You're You're so savvy and smart.

I don't even know you.

You're so sad.

That's facts.

All right.

Hey, Hank.

Wait, wait, real quick.

Sorry.

Not to take up more time.

How about them Patriots?

Oh, I know.

It's exciting.

He's been swagging on all of us.

He's, yeah, he's feeling good.

This Sunday's going to be good against the Titans.

Yep, revenge.

He's going to go nuts.

Yep.

Yep.

Happy for you.

You don't know what it's like to win.

So I feel it finally.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Rebuilding's tough, but it's good to be on the other side.

All right, Diana, you're the best.

Thank you for

answering the bat signal there.

Calling in like a talk show.

No bears, buddy.

I'm happy for you.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

See ya.

All right.

That's Diana Rossini.

She's a very good reporter.

The booth just now figuring out that she reports.

I never said that she was.

I maybe at one point said that it was wrong.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

So this game, by the way, what she mentioned, there's stats to back it up.

The

Saquon Barkley running behind Landon Dickerson and Makai Bechton last year, 6.1 yards per carry.

Saquon Barkley running behind a hurt Landon Dickerson and Brett Toth or Tyler Steen, 3.7 yards per carry.

So there's the difference.

And the Vikings are not, they're not great against the run.

They allow 132 rushing yards per game.

Just get the running game going.

Just run the football, Max.

I would love to run the damn game.

Give him a Saquon.

I would love that.

You know what?

You know what you need?

This is the cure for everything that healed it.

You need a classic, like Jalen Hurts under 100-yard passing game.

He doesn't throw the ball at all.

Maybe gets like two tush pushes and saquon goes off for like 150.

what we need is we haven't had one saquan 75 yard touchdown this year we need saquan to break one and then really just get the juices flowing this is a massive massive game because it's uh it's the game it's it's the season the top five hardest uh remaining schedules vikings are one and eagles are three which is i insane because we have we've had a hard schedule but you won the super bowl

yeah there's

that shouldn't matter, just first place.

Yeah, that's true.

But

winning the Super Bowl doesn't make it any.

Well, you played the hardest schedule because you were first place.

First place.

Does that work?

How does that work?

Yeah, you played it in other schools.

I thought it was just divisional first place.

Yeah, divisional first place.

Yes, it's a hard schedule.

Yeah, yeah.

But like,

I don't know.

Texans, I guess Texans have.

I don't know.

Fuck it.

Whatever.

I don't care.

You know what?

You won the Super Bowl last year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can deal with it.

Yeah.

You're big.

It's a blimp on the radar.

Yeah.

This is the game.

Game of season.

All right.

Let's get to the afternoon.

Three games in the afternoon.

We've got the Colts and the Chargers.

Boys, I'm ready to say it right now.

The Colts are very, very good.

I'm ready to

sell on the peak of the Colts.

You're selling right now.

I'm selling in this game only.

Is that because of the uniforms that the Chargers wear?

It is not.

I hate those uniforms.

The yellows, the piss yellow uniforms.

It is because

it is because we're at the point in the season where you can start looking at body of work.

And again, I think the Colts are very good.

I'm not selling on them for the season.

I'm just selling them this game.

The Colts have beaten Tua, Bo Nicks in that game that the

Broncos kind of pissed away.

Cam Ward, Geno, and Jacoby Brissett.

I think Justin Herbert's a lot better than all those guys.

I also am worried about the Colts secondary with Chardavius Ward not practicing because of that concussion.

Kenny Moore is working back from an injury.

Jalen Jones,

they could be down again.

Their top three corners.

And you saw Jacoby Brissett through for over 300 yards against them.

He looked good.

Yeah, so

I'm selling them for this game only.

I'm selling them.

I think the Chargers are going to win this game.

I mean, it's almost like a must-win for the Chargers, too.

The Chargers.

They've been down.

I do like the Chargers this weekend.

The Colts, I'm not selling them at all over the long term.

Yeah.

I even think they'll be competitive in this game.

Correct.

But I just, I don't know.

I don't know which side to take against the spread.

But I think it's like two kind of evenly matched teams.

One is a little bit more desperate than the other.

Yes.

And Khalil Mack is starting his practice windows opening back up.

That's good for him.

What about Joe Alt?

Joe Alt, I do not know what's what's going on with Joe Alts.

Is he coming back soon?

That would be a big

possibility that he's back.

Joe Alt would be a big, big thing for the Chargers to get back.

Joe Alt, let's look.

Oh, yeah.

There's optimism about Joe Alt.

He did not practice.

Khalil Mack was limited, but there's optimism that both could be back.

That'd be huge.

That would be enormous for this game.

Is this the first time that we've had an NFL team have a starting quarterback from Duke and a backup quarterback from Duke?

Maybe.

If you can call Riley Leonard a Duke guy, which he is, he is a Duke guy.

Kind of a Notre Dame guy, but yeah, he's a Duke guy.

Double Duke.

He's a Duke.

Yeah.

I don't know that we've ever had that before.

You're duked up.

Yeah, I kind of like the Chargers in this game.

I really like the Chargers in this game.

I do.

I really like the Chargers and I really like the Browns.

That's going to be pain.

Browns, though.

I love the Browns this week.

Should we just just go heavy on the Browns and root like

they're our team?

I'm rooting for the wind.

Yeah.

Speaking of teams, PFT, your team, game of the week.

Commanders are Cowboys.

Yeah.

Commanders are our two and a half point favorites.

The over-under is all the way up to, is it 55.5 still?

54.5.

Yeah.

They're expecting a lot of points.

So I took the over earlier this week.

I forget the number that I got, but I took it on like Tuesday morning.

Sometimes you just got to bet yourself out of a depression.

And I woke up on Tuesday morning feeling bad about my team.

So I was like, let's get back on the horse.

Let's take the over already on that game because it's going to be just points on top of points.

And then the week went on, and then Debo's not practicing, and then Terry is also not practicing.

And if we don't have Debo or Terry against the Cowboys,

that would mean that our starting and Noah Brown is on the IR now.

Okay.

So that would mean that our starting receivers would be Luke McCaffrey, Jalen Lane, the rookie, and maybe Chris Moore.

Okay.

So

that's not a recipe for the over right there.

But the Dallas defense is really bad.

But again,

those three would be our starting points.

I know.

But remember, the Dallas defense is really bad.

I'm a believer in Luke, but I don't know that he's like a number one threat.

But he still should be able to light up this Dallas defense.

They're that bad.

I mean, ideally, you would be able to with nobody at receiver.

And you could run it.

I mean, Rico Dowdle just went off.

It's a lot of firepower that we'd be missing.

So I'm a little bit nervous.

This is definitely a must-win for us because if we lose this then the chiefs and the lions afterwards like you could be looking at four losses in a row right there yeah i got a blind resume for you guys you ready for it qb1 7849 and one qb2 7849

dak prescott and tony romo yes bang that's good that's pretty good yeah yeah dak pretty crazy that they're that that it's literally that tie

they you know

that's the only difference between their records right now.

Dak is playing like an MVP right now.

He is.

He's really, really good.

I have a prediction for this game, though.

Okay.

I think either George Pickens, Lattimore, or maybe both will get ejected.

Ooh.

This seems like a fight game.

Is CeeDee Lamb going to be back?

I think he's close.

Officially back.

Officially back tweeted.

Officially back.

Okay.

Don't like that.

Nope.

The only good injury news that the Commanders have is that Sam Cosme is going to play,

which is big at guard.

That is good.

He's an awesome player, and I'm glad that he's back.

But yeah, the top three receivers potentially being out has me,

I'm in my feelings right now.

Are you worried about the sun at all?

Not worried about the sun because it is an afternoon game.

We can handle the sun.

It's the Dallas game.

They asked Brian Schottenheimer about the sun, and

he said, if you guys could see the process and the plan we have in place to figure out, we have satellite imaging.

We have pictures of the sun when it's coming down.

There's a big plan in process.

But I think when you look at historically at what's happened, it really hasn't affected many situations.

We plan for it.

The opponents planned for it, but at the end of the day, it's something we're very aware of.

It's very beautiful.

It's majestic when the sun comes through there.

It's a lot of talk about the sun.

They have an astrologist on staff.

Yeah, satellite imaging.

To know where the sun is?

Where the sun's setting.

Okay, the sun, I think it sets in, correct me, from the same place every day.

Yes.

Correct.

Okay, so they could just walk outside and see where the sun is.

Correct.

No, I'm not concerned about the sun.

I think the sun affects both teams.

Both teams have to play under the sun.

Yes.

That's just a fact.

I am concerned, though,

about the health of the team and about our defense against that offense.

A must-win or a can't lose.

It's both.

Okay.

It's both.

Yeah, we must not lose.

We can't, must not lose this game.

That's big.

Yeah.

I mean, like, if you look at the commanders right now and how they've been playing recently,

it's hard to have confidence in the season if they lose this game.

Yeah.

All right, so must win can't lose.

Yep.

Must win can't lose.

All right.

Last afternoon game, the Packers and the Cardinals.

The Packers are six and a half point favorites.

The over-under in this game is 45.5.

Oh, actually, no, we have one more.

I forgot the Giants and Broncos.

We got to hit that as well.

Jonathan Gannon, what a quote.

They asked him this week,

when did he learn to take emotion out of coaching?

And he said, 2007, our quarterback went to jail.

Yeah.

So, there it is.

Then he got up and just walked away.

That was the mic drop of his press conference.

Yeah.

There's really no follow-up to that.

No.

Everyone's like, oh, yeah, I remember that.

That sucked.

This feels like a game that the Packers should win handily if they're going to be for real, for real.

Would you agree?

Yeah, I would agree.

Do we know?

There's no pressure on the Packers.

I would never want to do that.

If you were the Cardinals, would you rather have Kyler starting or Jacoby Brissett starting this weekend?

Jacoby.

Jacoby.

Probably Jacoby.

Probably Jacoby.

It looked different with Jacoby.

Yeah.

But we know Jacoby's also not very good.

Yeah.

So.

But the offense looked better with Jacoby.

Yeah.

They said it's leaning Jacoby.

Okay.

You're leaning Jacoby this weekend.

Jordan Love, by the way, he is first in yards per attempt in a clean pocket and last

under pressure.

So got to heat up the quarterback.

There's my key to the game.

And then he starts to drift.

Yeah, then he starts to drift.

He drifts hard.

He's a hard drifter.

He looks like I'm when I play Madden.

I feel bad because I've been talking a lot about Marvin Harrison not breaking tackles on this podcast.

I should also highlight the fact that Marvin Harrison Jr.

this year is elite at drawing pass interferences.

So that's almost like a tackle broken.

I think he's like second in the league in terms of yardage gained on pass interferences, but he might not play this weekend.

He's in the concussion protocol.

So yeah, the Packers got to kill him.

They should.

They should.

Colts, or sorry, Giants and Broncos.

I kind of like love the Giants in this game.

The Giants are plus seven.

The over-under is 39.5.

Plus seven with the

low total.

I feel like we're not giving enough credit for the Giants' offense just being significantly better now that they don't have Russell Wilson playing.

Yeah, I also feel like Jackson Dart is the type of quarterback that Sean Payton's just kind of in love with from a distance.

Yeah.

I think he just watches him.

He's like, damn, I would love to coach that kid.

Like, he's got his own at home.

He's got Bonix, who he's obsessed with, but I do feel like he's probably watching Jackson Dart just like, you know, late night, 2 a.m.

He can't sleep.

Let's watch some Giants film.

Check this out.

This is, I don't know.

I just have a feeling because the Broncos, big win against the Eagles, got to fly to London, got to fly all the way back.

The Giants off of mini-buy.

Now, the numbers don't back this up.

The Broncos is home favorites in the Bonix era.

They are 8-0,

straight up.

They're 7-1 against the spread, 32.3 points per game, 12.3 points per game allowed.

So they've been killing teams at home in the Bonix era.

Yeah, we got a game inside the game, too, this weekend.

We got Nick Bonito.

Yep.

Probably the best at his position.

Andrew Thomas, one of the best at his positions.

Yeah.

That's going to be fun to see.

And the Broncos, we talked about it on Sunday.

The Broncos have 30 sacks on the season.

They're on pace to smash the record of the 84 Bears.

And

I don't know.

Jackson Dart, though, he's elusive.

Cam Scatabu?

Yeah.

Running in people's faces.

You know what's crazy about Scatabu?

The way that he plays, I think everybody's like, oh, Mike Allstott, 2.0.

Cam Scatabu is 213 pounds.

Yeah.

He's not huge.

No.

He's just like super dense.

And he's just super aggressive.

He's a compact.

Yeah, he's like one of the, you know, the pit bulls that they overbreed to the point where they can't get off the ground, really.

And there's just these jacked up, like, you know, the blue ones.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's Cam Scataboo.

Yeah.

He's just all muscle.

Very, he's a bowling ball.

I'm just happy that we can watch, like, the Giants are a fun watch now.

Very fun.

You know, like, there's

the afternoon games this week, there's three fun watches.

And who knows what will happen with the Packers-Cardinals game, but I'm excited to watch Colts, Chargers, excited to watch Cowboys Commander, excited to watch Giants, the Broncos.

Three fun watches in the afternoon.

All right, last game, Sunday night football.

It is the 49ers and the Falcons.

The Falcons are going to San Francisco.

They are two and a half point underdogs.

Their over-under is 47.5.

I think I'm starting to believe in the Falcons.

Yeah.

Are you ready to do that with me?

Yeah,

I've been ready.

I said that the Falcons were going to make the playoffs this year before the season started.

I think they got too much talent at the key positions.

And

I like Michael Pennix, too.

A lot of it's just from watching him when he was at college, and he was just like the most accurate guy ever.

And he hasn't been great so far, but he's been very good.

Yeah.

And I think if he just realizes, oh, yeah, I'm going to find Bajan out in the flat and let him do all the work for me, That's a good formula.

And no, Fred Warner.

Fred Warner, that's a huge loss for the 49ers.

Kyle Shanahan doing the injury report this week in his press conference, it took him 32 seconds and six breaths to get through the 49ers injury report.

Six breaths?

Six breaths.

That's not good.

Can you pull it up?

It was quite the injury report.

Six breaths to get through the injury report.

Kyle Shanahan this week.

Also, the 49ers haven't been able to run the ball as well.

Like Christian McCaffrey is still awesome, but their interior O-line is not great, and they just haven't been able to run the ball effectively to what they want to do.

Here it is: here's Kyle Shannon: 32 seconds, six breaths.

All right, um, injuries for today.

We got um, Yeetour knee, hamstring will be out.

Uh, Ricky, knee will be out, Sky Moore, ankle will be out, Trent Williams, Ved Day, Christian, Ved Day, Jordan Watkins, Calf Limited, Brock Purdy, Toe Limited, Mac Jones, Neil Bleak Limited, Pooney, Knee Limited, Kevin Gibbons, Peck Limited, Jawan Jennings, Ankle Rib, Shoulder Limited, Rernardo Green, neck limited.

C.J.

West, thumb limited.

George Kittle, Hamstring Limited.

Clea Davis, hand limited.

Michael Williams, thumb.

Oh, wait, those guys are full.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

All right, not cruise for today.

Not great.

They're just so banged up.

Fred Warner seemed like it was the breaking point for the Niners.

Yeah, I mean, they lost Bosa, and it's like, oh, as long as we have Fred Warner and now losing Fred Warner, who's one of the best at his position, if not best,

it's tough.

It's just like, how many times can they get off the mat with all these injuries?

Do we know who's starting a quarterback for him this weekend?

I don't.

I'm not sure.

And then the follow-up would be, would it matter?

I don't know.

Between Brock Purdy and Mac Jones.

Would it matter?

Maybe Mac Jones is playing better?

I don't think it matters that much at this moment.

Did you know, by the way, the Falcons' defense has been very good.

And Jeff Olbrick, who maybe didn't have the best

last year because he was the Jets' interim head coach, and then obviously his son, son, Prank Call, Shadur Sanders.

Josh Allen's last three games that he has had two interceptions and four sacks, they were all at the hands of a Jeff Olbrick defense.

The Falcons on Monday night, the Jets 2023, the Jets 2022.

So he's a pretty good defensive coordinator.

The NFL's MVP has had his worst three games basically the last four years, all against Jeff Olbrick.

Mark Jones is trending to start.

Okay.

Trending to start, okay.

Because I feel like Brock Purdy, he came back way too fast from the toe.

Yeah.

Like a guy that maybe didn't want to lose his job.

Yeah.

But it's like you shouldn't lose your job to Mac Jones.

Mac Jones has said he's not, it's Brock Purdy's job.

Yeah.

It's exactly what he should say.

Yeah.

Being a great backup.

Did you know that the 49ers have Diamador

Lenoir at cornerback?

Yep.

And you know what his nickname is?

No.

It's the Hyena.

Okay.

Would it impress you any less to know that he gave himself that nickname?

No, I think that plays.

He said, I gravitated towards the hyena after the Philly game when I made that big hit.

My teammates were like, you need a name.

I wanted to be an animal.

I started looking back at all the animals.

You got your honey badgers, your bears, your lions.

There ain't no hyena.

So that's how I came up with that.

I like that.

He's right.

He identified a gap in the market.

There's no hyena.

Yeah.

The hyena, we don't see a lot of hyenas.

We don't.

You need a hyena.

Yeah.

Sometimes you just got to laugh.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Let's do our Jerry Fantasy Minute, and then we'll do our picks, and then we'll get to Coach Gruden and finish off with Firefest.

Ooh, hyenas look nasty.

Yeah.

All right, this is our Jerry O'Connell.

I emailed it to you, Max.

Jerry O'Connell's fantasy minute, which hopefully he kept it to a minute.

I have not, as is tradition, I do not click on it

because I want to make sure that it's fresh for all of us when he sends it to me on Wednesday night.

How's our fantasy team doing, PFT?

I believe we've lost two games, so that'll make it four and two.

Oh, that's good.

Four and two is pretty good.

Yeah, let's go.

Four and two is pretty good.

Come on, Jerry.

How about this year being the year, Jerry?

How about this year being the year?

I also like that Jerry gives us, he tries to give us actual fantasy advice during the fantasy match.

Oh, this one.

Oh, wow.

He did a Max remake.

Oh, the blue closet.

The blue closet.

Put you on your headphones, Max.

Put them on.

Max, for Jerry, put them on.

You can hear it.

I can hear it.

Okay.

Here we go.

Jerry's face.

I can't believe I have to do this right now.

But it's my job.

Start the music, memes.

Start the music.

I only have one minute.

Start the music.

Welcome to Fantasy Fuck Boys.

Uh, drop all the Jets.

All of them, they suck.

I'm sorry.

I told everybody to pick up that tight end Taylor last week.

That whole team is

drop them all.

Pick up Pacheco.

He's available in most leagues, and he is the lead back on a high-powered offense.

Pick up Cade Otten and Sterling Shepherd.

You know Baker's going to throw it, and they're the only two receivers on Tampa this weekend.

Jaden, Playham and Daly's, he's going to throw for four TDs against that Dallas D, and he's angry.

He's angry.

And

Boswell, the kicker, Steelers, is back.

They got an offense.

I did it.

One minute.

Fuck you, big cat.

Call 1-800 Gambler, you fucking degenerate.

R.A.P.

Diane Keaton.

I did it.

Oh.

Just a quick fact check.

Jerry's kids, the fantasy team, is actually 3-3.

Not as good.

Yeah, we're right at 500.

Not as good.

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What are we doing, boys?

I think I'm in it.

Yep.

Hank, are you in it?

Yep.

And then Max is in it.

Give it to us.

I have mine.

Okay.

Kamani Vidal.

I don't

love it.

I'm going to go with George Pickens.

Okay.

All right.

Even though he might be a bit more.

I'm a little worried about that.

Yeah, I'm a little worried about that.

But CeeDee Lamb coming off an injury.

I feel like George is the guy still.

But you close your eyes, you could see Lattimore and Pickens.

I could.

I know.

Really going at it.

Should I switch to Ferguson?

No, don't let me talk you out of it.

Okay.

You've been hot.

Not with these, but yeah.

Okay.

I'm going to go with

J.K.

Dobbins.

Okay.

All afternoon slate.

Yeah.

Let's hit this, boys.

You can put it on DraftKings.

It is

7.20.

7.20.

All right.

Let's go, boys.

Hank, before we do our picks, do you want to share with the class what your hungry dog is going to be?

Yeah.

My hungry dog this week, it's going to be the Dallas Cowboys against the Washington Commanders.

It's going to be the New Orleans Saints against the Bears and the Minnesota Vikings.

Against the Eagles.

You knew he was going to

Eagles.

Are you going to be wearing your hater sweater?

No.

That's a big game sweater.

That's a Philly sweater.

Listen, I actually prefer you do it this way because none of us can be like, you always pick against Mike.

You're just picking against all of our teams.

Yeah, it's personal.

It is.

For all of us, it is what it is.

Yeah.

I'm going to do the opposite.

I'm going to bet on all of our teams.

I like that.

I like that too.

The fat cat parlay.

The opposite.

We're going to go ahead and get that.

You play the Cowboys, so

I can do that.

I know the fat cat.

Yeah, the fat cat.

All right, let's do our picks.

Memes in first with seven points.

Then everyone else except PFT has six points, and PFT has five points.

We are exactly 500 as an entire show.

I love that.

That's actually good.

Yeah.

Four of us are six and six.

Memes is seven and five.

PFT is five and seven.

What?

Wow, boys.

Way to go.

All right, who's up first?

We're back at the top with Henry.

Henry, let's go.

All right.

I'm happy I'm first because I figured this would not have got back around to me.

I'm going to go with the over in Dolphins-Browns.

Wow, yeah, there's no way that would have gone back to you.

That's a sharp play.

Over 37 and a half.

36.

36 and a half.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm looking right.

Did it go back up?

I'm seeing 37 and a half.

Oh, 37 and a half.

That's a key number.

Plus 100.

It was 36 and a half

20 minutes.

Let's give him 37.

Okay, that's fair.

Yeah, let's give you 37.

Okay.

All right.

We also got to make sure everybody remembers their number when Shane sends a graphic.

Three.

Okay.

Mean.

I'm going to go with the over

in Carolina Panthers and New York Jets, 42.5.

Ooh, okay.

What was that?

Those are the two grossest games that we just went over on both of them.

I'm getting ugly.

I like it.

You got to get comfortable being uncomfortable.

Yep.

No, the Panthers are over team.

On the road?

Get Jets?

Yeah, I guess.

Jets variable.

I am going to go Browns minus two and a half.

Fuck.

I knew that was jerk.

It was a jerk move.

All right.

You guys kept talking about how you liked it, so I had to pick it before you guys got it.

I would like to take in the Colts-Chargers game, the Chargers minus one and a half.

God damn it!

There's only two bets I love.

All right.

Got to find something else.

That's fine.

Hey, that's fine.

I just got to find something else.

That's how the cookie crumbles.

That's how the cookie crumbles.

Wasn't my day.

I'm going to go with the Rams minus three

against the Jaguars.

Okay.

I guess I'll go Giants plus seven,

and I will go

with the under

in Jets Panthers.

42 and a half.

It's a bad pick.

Okay.

We'll see.

I thought you were head to head.

I thought thought you were 76 in Sonny.

All right.

I thought you were going to take mine.

Oh.

I'm going to take the under

in the Browns Dolphins.

Can I get 37 and a half?

It stands at 37.5 on the screen.

Definitely.

So Hank only gets the pity half of it.

Yeah.

That's the spread, Hank.

I'm looking at the spread right now.

What do you want me to not take the spread?

No, you get 37 as well.

Yeah.

37.

No, no, under 37.5.

You both get 37.

You both get 37.

The spread is literally 37 and a half right now.

I think BFT should get 37 and a half at the current.

But it's plus one.

It's minus 120 under.

So that's the point.

We'll do the 37.

But have we ever done that before where we don't take the number that's listed?

Well, we just did.

Yeah, for Hank.

We just did.

Out of pity.

Yeah.

37.

Just go flat 37.

That is a key number.

It is.

Under 36.5 is minus 102.

What?

Okay.

Hold on.

I don't see that.

I see under 37.5 is minus 6.

But if we go to the alternate, under 6.

Okay, let's go under.

Oh, you're right.

We're doing like CSI investigations into the numbers?

Yeah, so it's 37.

37.

You guys both have 37.

At a principle, I'm not going to take under 37.

Okay.

I like that principle.

Yeah, it's a good principle.

You got to stand for something.

All right, so what are you going to take?

In that case, I'm going to take.

Oh, all right.

Let's make a deal.

You get under 37 and a half.

You get over 36 and a half.

But if it lands on 37, you both get nothing.

You both lose both of your picks.

Deal.

Deal.

If it lands exactly on 37, you lose the other pick as well.

No matter what.

That seems like a terrible deal for me and Hank.

Why?

You get a better number.

No, no, I'm saying you get over 36 and a half.

You get under 37.5.

If it lands exactly 37, then you lose that pick.

And our other pick.

And your other pick.

Oh, no.

If it's losing that pick, I'm fine with that, but I'm not losing both picks for one.

Okay, fine.

If it lands 37, you lose that pick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, it lands exactly 37.

Okay, deal.

Deal.

I think that.

Yeah, okay.

That also completely took away.

It's fine.

You basically just took under 37 and you didn't get the push.

I took under 36 and a half.

There's too many numbers.

Oh, you guys accepted, so

you just have to move.

Alberto.

Okay, all right.

I'm going to exact score 37.

I'm going to do this, but I also am going to cash this bank error in at some other time in the season.

If there's a dispute on the spread.

Get exact 37?

Yeah, if there's a dispute on the spread, I'm going to return to this.

This isn't going to matter at all.

No.

All right, Zach.

I would like to take the over-in-the-Giants Broncos game.

Okay.

Ooh, I would like to take the under-in-the-giants Broncos game.

Okay.

I would like to take the Chiefs minus 11.5.

That number is 40.5, by the way, for me and

Hank, last pick.

I would like to take the Arizona Cardinals

plus 6.

I'm seeing 39 and that.

Oh, 39 and that.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Plus 6.5.

Plus 6.5.

What?

What?

Max.

All right.

We had another line change in me and Zach's in me and Zach's thing.

But it's fine.

I'll take the lower number.

All right.

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And now, here is Coach.

Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

We haven't talked to him in a couple months on this show.

It is Coach John Gruden in studio, Super Bowl-winning head coach John Gruden, future coach of the Penn State Nittany Lions, John Gruden.

Also future coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.

How are you?

Let's start there.

How are you going to coach six different college football teams next year?

That's a strange introduction, Dan.

You know, I have no idea how that'll happen, but I'm having fun, man.

We are having a blast.

Football season is in high gear.

It's got to be at least

nice to have your name mentioned with every job.

I know that, you know,

I was half joking, but like, it's kind of nice that your name gets to mention.

Oh, absolutely.

I absolutely love football.

I love it.

And it's pretty much

all I have.

You know, I have an office for the people that don't know.

I've got a server in there.

I just put a lot of money into a server that collects all the films and allows me to study them.

And who knows what will happen, but I'm preparing myself as always to coach.

But behind the scenes, we're getting plenty of football.

I promise you.

Yeah, I know you love football.

And I know, do you still do the Grooten Grinder?

Yeah, oh, yeah.

We do that every week.

Okay, so who's a Gruden Grinder?

Who's the one from last week that we saw?

Well, we do five Grinders.

We had Landman, the linebacker for the Rams, 17 tackles.

Devin White, Justin Stranada, the Denver Broncos.

And then we had our first trios, three receivers for Tampa Bay, Tez Johnson, Cameron Johnson, and Sterling Shepard.

Man, did they pick up the slack?

And then three pass rushers for the Seahawks all had two sacks, Byron Murphy, Lawrence, and my guy Nuasu.

So we had those as our Gruden Grinders last week.

How much do you love Baker Mayfield?

Because we love Baker Mayfield.

What does he do if you're thinking of it from a coach?

What does he do that is so special that gives you a chance every single week to win a football game?

Yeah, we were on that Fox show, and they asked me who I thought the MVP would be, and I said if we did it today, it'd be Baker.

And I just compare him to Brett Favre when we were in Green Bay.

He brought life to the huddle, to the practice field.

He gave the defense hope.

If we just get the ball back for this guy, he'll figure it out.

And then he's kind of a combination between Favre and Rocky Balboa.

I mean, this guy takes punches, man.

He gets hit.

He keeps getting up.

You take away his running back.

You take away his two tackles.

You take away all his receivers.

You put him behind.

He is a son of a bitch, man, when it comes right down to it.

This guy grits it.

He's all ball, and I love him.

It's like the more shit you talk to him, the better he gets, too.

He feeds off that.

I would tell my guys, don't say a word to Baker because he'll use that against you somehow.

Yep.

He's got a chip on his shoulder.

I mean, you know, you cut me, you cut me, you cut me, I'm going to cut you up.

I kind of feel like

I'm going to get back at all you people for doubting me.

He's a fun guy to be around.

I want to watch the Bucs scrimmage, the Titans, and you just watch him.

It's a hot day.

Nobody's having fun.

It's the middle of training camp.

And this guy's flying around having fun.

He's just different.

He's a weapon when it comes to energy,

positivity, and hope.

I love Mayfield.

Yeah, great guy.

I want to talk a little bit about the London games because we have them, it feels like every week now.

You traveled over to London when you were the coach of the Raiders.

I read a quote from you where you said that you're not a good traveler, that you get on the airplane, you said, I had vertigo for a month.

I couldn't lay down.

The house was spinning.

I'm not a great traveler.

I'll be honest with you.

I hate it.

I'm not good.

I'm concerned.

I'm more worried about that than our goal-line offense right now.

Yeah.

When you were going over there, first of all, how did you end up doing on that trip?

And second of all, what's something that you were not ready for?

Like an unexpected challenge that happened.

Yeah, it was the first time we went.

It was my first year back in coaching, 2018.

We weren't a very good team.

We played Seattle.

And I told people, I said, I don't want to go to London until I absolutely have to.

They said, nah, you should go a week week before and get acclimated.

I said, I don't need all that shit.

I said, I don't want to go.

We went over there and got our brains beat in.

Now, the next time I went early and I gave ourselves time to get acclimated, and we beat the Bears one of our best performances.

That was a good Bears defense.

We went out and played very well, but it's a different, different deal.

The flight home,

before you go, there's a lot of arrangements that need to take place.

I don't like it personally.

I don't know any coaches in the league that like it.

Yeah.

But I don't think anybody cares about coaches anymore.

It's all about making money.

And believe me, there's a lot of money to be made by playing these games.

That's why they're doing it.

Yeah, I saw that the Rams are going on Saturday morning, which that feels weird.

So

they stayed in Baltimore for the week.

They're going Saturday morning.

That just feels like there's no way that you can get your body clock.

And it's a double body clock because the Rams being on Pacific time, Rams fans, they're going to have to wake up at 6.30 in the morning to watch football.

That's not a football time.

Well, we played the Indianapolis Colts.

It's the game Vontez Burfick got suspended and kicked out of the league.

We beat the Colts in Indianapolis and flew out late that night to London.

And I remember being out there trying to do the game plans from a hotel room, getting acclimated to the time.

I went off campus three days before the game, two days before the game, to try to get out of the hotel.

I was getting a little stir crazy.

I'm a little nuts.

So me and my wife and a couple of my friends found this place off some ranch somewhere.

We got some wild game.

game, and I got sick so bad.

I looked like a demon.

My eyes were bloodshot red.

It was a great experience flying over there to play football.

Especially losing one of your home games.

Yeah.

I mean, you get eight home games, and now you got to give one up to play over there.

That's nice.

Yeah.

Let's talk about the Eagles because the Eagles are, it feels like they're in that situation where it's like, what's going on here?

Are they going to hold it together?

Is it going to be a replay of the year after they went to the Super Bowl in 2023 and they started hot and they fell apart?

What's wrong with the Eagles offense?

What's wrong with the Eagles in general?

And can they fix this so they don't have another situation where they go to the Super Bowl and then they get, you know, they made the playoffs next year, but they got killed by the Bucs on that playoff game.

It's tough to repeat.

I remember after we won the Super Bowl, we tried to keep that band together.

I remember losing Juravicius and Allstott on the same play for the season in week two.

The Eagles aren't the same team.

The chemistry of the team is not the same.

I'm looking around the league.

I'm seeing Isaiah Rogers.

I'm seeing Darius Slay.

I'm seeing Josh Sweat, Milt Williams, some of their best players on that Super Bowl defense playing elsewhere.

They're not as good because the players that won the Super Bowl aren't there.

And offensively, Bechton's gone.

Dickerson at left guard has not been the same with that injury.

You don't stay the same in pro football.

You either get better or worse.

Right now, they're not as good a team, and they don't don't look like they have a great chemistry.

It just doesn't look like they care a lot about each other right now, but I'm hoping they wake up and snap out of the funk they're in.

It hasn't looked good so far.

Yeah, winning fixes a lot of that.

You start winning games, then you start getting closer as a team.

A team that doesn't seem like they're close right now is the Miami Dolphins.

And the Players-Only meeting that Tua was speaking about

on Sunday after the game, saying guys aren't showing up.

They're certain up late for it.

With a team like that, did you know when the players-only meetings were happening?

And did you have a guy that was on the inside that was like, hey, coach, here's what we talked about in the players-only meeting?

I think players-only meetings can be healthy to a degree.

I think it's good for these guys to have a meeting.

Sometimes go out there and run your own practice.

See how easy it is.

You know, let these guys have a little bit of ownership of how we operate.

I think they can be very positive used properly.

But I think Miami's having a lot of these meetings out of desperation.

You know, I think they're starting to point a little bit of fingers.

But when your quarterback comes out and says things like that for the national media, that's an issue because he's got to walk in the building the next day and see the players.

And I think he's already apologized.

I think he regrets saying those things.

But where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's a lot of smoke down there in Miami.

There is, yeah.

No, a team that's doing better than expected, especially offensively.

The Dallas Cowboys, they look great on offense.

And as an offensive guy yourself, what are you seeing from Dallas this season that's special about them?

Because obviously their defense is one side of it, and they're going to play in a lot of shootouts.

Might lose a lot of those, but offensively, they're a great team right now.

So what is it about the Cowboys this year that's better than it has been in the past?

Well, they've been a good offense with McCarthy there, too.

Now, they have not been a poor offense.

They've not had much of a running game.

They found a little bit of it with Javante Williams, but Dak Prescott, he is a straw that stirs the drink down there, man.

I mean, CeeDee Lamb's not even playing.

They score 40 points against Green Bay.

CeeDee Lamb's not playing.

They're able to move the ball and function at a high level.

You got to give Schottenheimer credit, but they got a lot of high picks on that offensive line.

Ferguson's a really good tight end.

It doesn't get a lot of notoriety.

Pickens is a badass.

You know, he's starting to really concentrate and get some consistency, and he is a talented dude now.

And Prescott can still get out of trouble.

He can recognize looks at the line of scrimmage, premier competitor.

And man, is he throwing the ball and they play in perfect conditions.

You know, they get to play indoors and they're going to score points.

I expect the Cowboys and the Bears to do something at the trade deadline.

Go get a shub.

Go get a pass rusher.

Go get somebody that gives your team juice, hope, and energy.

Yeah, pass rusher in Dallas.

That would be a crazy combination.

Yeah.

Are we just spinning our wheels, though?

Is it the Chiefs again?

Because it feels like the Chiefs, they're 3-3.

They started slow.

They're fine.

They're better than fine.

Their offense looks like it has the explosiveness back to it.

Does it feel like part of the time I'm like, I'm so glued to the NFL and I'm so invested in it every single week.

And I have to take a step back and be like, the Chiefs are just going to be in the Super Bowl again.

I don't know if they'll win the Super Bowl, but they'll be in the Super Bowl again.

Does it not feel that way?

Yeah, we talked about it on a previous show we did.

I think Andy Reid, the way they practice, has a lot to do with their success.

I went up there for five or six days two years years ago.

I mean, they're hitting each other.

They're live periods.

They're putting guys on the ground.

They play real old school training camp football when they're in pads.

And when you look at the Chiefs right now, they don't have anybody hurt.

Rashi Rice is coming back.

I'm worried about Simmons, their left tackle.

Where is he?

What's the issue?

But Mahomes is playing at a high level, man.

And when you got Andy Reid and Mahomes and Spaggs coaching that defense, they're going to be in it.

If it's not for that 99-yard return by Jacksonville and Kelsey mishandling that ball against Philly, they're 6-1.

They're five.

I mean, it's a good football team.

Yeah.

So which team should be more concerned right now?

The Philadelphia Eagles at 4-2 or the Buffalo Bills at 4-2?

I think the Bills.

You know, I think the Eagles, after winning a Super Bowl with the nucleus of players they have, I would be less concerned than them.

Buffalo's got to get to the Super Bowl and win it, and then they can, you know, deal with some adversity then.

But Buffalo's defense, they just don't look good to me they've had some injuries in the secondary at linebacker at oliver just came back they really don't have the firepower outside you know since gabe davis and stefan left town uh they throw a lot of quick screens to shakir in the slot the tight ends are a fall a factor now but offensively they don't have the weapons uh that they once had and i think they're a good team i just don't know if they're a great team.

Yeah, yeah.

I feel that way too.

It's just, it's frustrating to watch because the Bills, when they look good, they're awesome.

And then you have games like that.

Maybe it's just, I don't know, they got to get healthy, but at some point, like you can only say so many times, you tell me this, like as a coach, yeah, health obviously matters.

You lose a guy, but at some point, you got to just look in the mirror and be like, hey, we have what we have.

We're not going to get like this, not going to be a magic health button that gets all our guys back from week one.

Figure out a way.

Yeah, I think the game that really opened my eyes was the Patriot game when New England went up there and won.

And it's not just them winning, it's how they won.

They went in there, they played man-to-man coverage.

They went up there in Keon Coleman's face, Joshua Palmer's face.

They played press coverage man-to-man.

And they make it hard for Josh Allen to scramble around when you can cancel out some of these gaps.

But I think Buffalo is a team that could use a wide receiver to come in and give them some juice as well.

Yeah, so if you had to pick it today, if you had to call it, do you think the Bills are still winning that division or do you think the Patriots have

will win that division i still think new england has a lot of youth on their offense particularly on that left side of the offensive line um i still like buffalo to win the division but new england has narrowed the gap yeah they have sure um another team in the afc that i feel like has been right at the top for the last i don't know 25 years the ravens we're not it feels like we're not as concerned about the ravens we're like they'll figure it out somehow harbaugh will figure this out is it are they in a position where you think they're able to figure it out, or are their problems, their flaws, so deep that they're just not going to be a great team this year?

Man, I was there in the preseason, and I thought they were going to go to the Super Bowl and potentially win it.

They looked that good.

Now, when you take away as many players from their team that they have on IR now are out, it's almost mind-boggling.

I can't even, Ronnie Stanley doesn't play.

Matt Abike, their best defensive tackle's out.

Roquan's out.

Lamar Jackson's out.

It's a completely different football team.

Yeah.

And I do think the way they lost a couple of those games,

Detroit pounded them.

They ran it right down their throat.

And then losing that 15-point lead to Buffalo, I think they have some scars.

They have five number one picks in their secondary.

A couple of them haven't done much.

They're not the same Raven team.

They got a long way to go to bounce things.

And we've been saying season from hell.

Did you have a season from hell like that where it's like everything bounced the wrong way?

And there's something about that where you can just have those seasons where it's like you didn't get a break.

And it's not that you were the worst team.

You just never got the break you needed.

Yeah, I mean, I can vividly remember we scored a touchdown last play of the game to beat Carolina.

It's 9-9.

It was a slug fist.

We had just beat the Philadelphia Eagles in Philly, and we get the extra point blocked.

And then we go in overtime and lose.

I remember Peyton Manning, we got a 35-14 lead with six minutes left.

They return a kickoff to our one-yard line.

They get an onside kick.

All hell breaks loose.

The sheriff shoots me dead.

You know, you lose some games and you lose some players and some other teams now around the league are getting better and better and better.

The league is not set up for you to maintain a dynasty.

You win the Super Bowl, you pick 32nd.

You win the Super Bowl, you got six players that want more money and deserve more money.

You play a really hard schedule.

You play a harder schedule.

So there are a lot of issues.

And then if you compound it with injuries, bad breaks, and some of these referees give you some bad calls, man,

you can lose your mind and get a lot of gray hair in coaching.

Yeah.

Would you have referees that would apologize to you in the game and say, hey, sorry, we booted that one, we fucked that up, and then you understand that you're going to get a makeup call?

Or makeup calls again?

A couple times.

Yeah, it's happened a couple of times.

Do they make you smile as a coach, or were you still like, fuck this guy?

Yeah, I never really got along with any of the officials on game day, you know?

Yeah.

They got a tough job.

Don't get me wrong, but some of these games are being decided by past interference calls.

You see them at the end of the game.

Very specific judgment calls are deciding some of these close games, and that's just the way it's going to be.

Yeah.

Oh, go, go ahead.

I was going to say, as a quarterback guy yourself, we try to watch Cam Ward play on the Titans, and we try to evaluate, like, is he good?

Is he not good?

We don't know.

It's impossible for us to tell because the situation that he's in, obviously, in Tennessee, has not been good this year for him.

He's been very good at evaluating himself.

He said, we asked.

He was correct about that.

He gave himself an F in terms of grading himself for the season.

I like that he's tough on himself, but is there anything that you've seen from Cam Ward this year that you're like, this guy's got something I can build with this guy?

I saw Cam against Tampa in the preseason scrimmage.

He's got a great arm.

He can throw it off platform.

He's got all the crazy releases.

I just think he's a little bit too casual back there.

Too, you know, laissez-faire.

I think his fundamentals are inconsistent.

Their protection plan, I don't know if he's responsible for it.

The center's not making the calls.

Not only has he been sacked 25 times, they're not recognizing blitzes.

They're missing hot receivers.

They don't audible enough.

When you're the quarterback, you take the bullets, man, whether you're a rookie or not.

This is the number one pick in the draft.

This offense has struggled.

He's got to take a big piece of the pie.

Yeah.

Falcons look for real.

Yeah, they do.

Can I start believing in the Falcons?

Because every time I've ever believed in the Falcons, they burn me.

But their defense is good bijan might be the best running back in in the league this year drake london kyle pitts is doing okay like they're that is it is it safe for me to when you watch the tape are you like this team is doing things the right way they're gonna sustain some success this year or am i gonna fall for it again i like them man i like them i'm really impressed i after they lose 30 to nothing to carolina I think everybody was on their ass.

You know, this is a bad team, typical Falcons.

But what they did coming back, beating Washington, going on a buy, and coming back and taking it to Buffalo on national television, there's a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of confidence.

Mike Pennix, man, I'm telling you, this guy is a very talented cat.

He can really spin it.

And Drake London is starting to play like Andre Johnson.

He's starting to play physical.

That touchdown that he scored against Buffalo on the last play of the first half.

Well, he didn't score.

He did score, but it was a great Andre Johnson-like effort.

And Kyle Pitts is showing why he was the top 10 pick.

When they get Darnell Mooney back, remember Mooney had almost a thousand yards to really blow the top off.

I think they have a lot of firepower, man.

Bijan special.

And Algiers comes in fresh as a daisy.

I'm not saying it's Montgomery and Gibbs, but it's pretty damn close.

Yeah.

The defense, we call these guys the blank squad.

Nobody knows their name.

I mean, you talk about Zach Harrison and this doorless guy and or Roro Ro.

I mean, Diablo and Ellis.

They play their asses off, man.

And I wouldn't want to play these guys.

Jeff Ulbrich's done a great job.

Raheem Morris did this in LA when he was the defensive coordinator.

You remember this.

They find all these young guys.

Byron, Bryant Young at Tennessee.

He comes in.

He's a badass.

You know, they get Verse, Fisk, all these guys, they come in and they become formidable, and that's what they're doing in Atlanta.

I like hearing you say Aurora Row.

It sounds like a cartoon dog.

I know.

Aurora Roar.

Number nine.

Aurora Row.

It's good.

It's great.

I want to ask you something.

It might give you an aneurysm.

It might make your head hurt.

Uh-oh.

Because I can tell it's something that would frustrate you to no end.

You ever have a guy that was about to score a touchdown and then just dropped the ball on the one-inch line before he crossed the line?

Did that ever happen to you?

I'm sure something like that has happened.

We played the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night football, and we threw a pass, never forget it.

Freddie Solomon

caught the ball, just go down so we can clock it or go out of bounds so we can kick the field goal.

We had a guy run out some time where we were unable to do that.

But I can't remember.

I can't remember that.

What would you do?

Yeah, or when it happens in the league, do you then that week show your guys being like, yeah, don't fucking do this.

We always try to do that.

You know, there are lessons to be learned in wins and losses.

Hey, look how Philadelphia lost this game.

Look how Cincinnati won this game.

And we have coaches that would have responsibilities if that pertained to them.

You're the two-minute expert.

You're the short-yardage goal line expert.

You know, you're the blitz expert.

We might show several or eight examples of quarterbacks getting killed because the other team doesn't know how to pick up a blitz.

Get your shit together.

Learn how to pick these four-week blitzes up.

So, yes, but for that to happen twice in a matter of two weeks, that's unbelievable.

But there's an old saying, and Peanut Tillman made it famous, the Peanut Punch, and he was most dominant in blind pursuit situations.

I mean, you're walking to your car, you're just thinking you're going to open, kaboom!

You know, you get that ball punched out, and that's what's happening.

If you don't finish the play, you're going to get victimized because somebody's coming.

Yeah.

You know, so that's what's happening in these instances.

I got a non-football question for you.

How in the world do you have a right-hand man and and assistant and jake malasek who is 25 years old 26 years 26 years old and he had never been to a freaking concert until last week how is that possible you're a music guy you love going to concerts you know malasek's interesting big cat he's a weirdo this guy what the boarding school you know this guy comes from he comes from a different planet yeah does he use snow

i don't know about that no i know about that i don't know that has to be confirmed by me.

I have

confirmed.

What do you mean confirmed by me?

I know a guy that doesn't use snow.

He doesn't use soap.

He doesn't.

He's confirmed.

He's officially.

I can't tell you about this guy, though, Malasak.

He is worldly.

He knows lacrosse players.

He knows football, basketball.

I mean, we played trivia.

He's my guy.

Yeah.

He knows everything.

But he doesn't know musicians.

He's never been to a concert.

How's that possible?

There's not a lot of people I would want to go see in concert these days either.

Yeah.

It's not like when we were kids, man.

We'd go see Bob Seeger, and then we'd get a ticket to go see Van Halen.

Holy shit, ACDC's in town.

I mean, there was a lot of concerts to go to.

What concert would you go want to see?

Right now?

Yeah.

I went and saw, we had these guys, Goose, come in.

The name of the band's Goose.

They were really good.

I saw a Dead and Company at the Sphere in April.

I saw ACDC over the summer.

It's sold.

It was off.

They're still doing it.

Goose.

I don't know.

Oasis.

Oasis.

No, we're boycotting them.

Yeah, we're boycotting them.

Because of the London game.

Yeah.

What song would you listen to to get fired up in your office before?

It's always Shoot the Thrill by ACDC.

Hair of the Dog by Nazareth.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

Unchained by Van Halen.

You know, I want to go back there.

Yeah.

I like that song, Dude Looks Like a Lady by AC

Aerosmith.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Anything by ACDC, put that on.

I'm ready to go.

It's a cheap one song, Come to Papa by Bob Seeger.

Yeah, dude.

I like Bob Seeger.

Bob Seeger's great.

What was the last concert you went to?

I went to ACDC in Tampa.

Yeah.

Him and James Stadium.

See your concert guy?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I saw REO Speedwagon a couple years ago.

That was pretty cool.

Yeah.

I like the classic rock bands.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, unfortunately, a lot of them are no longer touring or no longer around.

To Big Hat's point, though, what would you do if you had a player that refused to shower, that didn't use soap?

Refused?

Yeah, refused to use soap.

He will not use soap.

Coach, I will not use soap.

I don't need soap, coach.

I would put him on another bus, probably.

Depends on how many sacks you got.

I think you're giving a guy a bad rap, man.

No, I mean, he's admitted to this.

Yeah, he does it himself.

He does.

Go ahead, Jake.

Makes my skin feel dry.

It makes his skin feel dry, he says.

Come on, Jake.

Let's get a word with our sponsor.

I'm good here.

I'm all right.

He's a weird guy.

How's the booth smelling?

Guys,

Booth smell good, Max?

Yeah, we're having a good booth smelling daddy.

Okay, all right.

Booth smells good.

But that is your guy.

He's the guy that you got to rely on.

The guy's very, very good, man.

We love Jake.

I wouldn't trade Jake for nothing.

We like to give him shit, though.

Yeah, especially fun to give him shit.

With UVA football being so good this year, you got to cut him down.

It's a little bit insane.

I like the way Virginia is playing, but their schedule is pretty good.

Yeah, is there a quarterback in college that you've got your eyes on that you're like, ooh, man, this guy?

I like Mendoza.

Yeah.

I like Mendoza at Indiana.

I like him a lot.

You know, I went to the Manning camp, and this kid at Washington, Williams,

you watch out for him.

Tom Williams Jr.

You know, he had 500 yards of total offense last week.

I like Sam Levitt at Arizona State quite a bit.

I like Nussmeier at LSU.

I'm still waiting.

I'm still kind of waiting for somebody to knock my socks off.

Yeah.

Yeah, it does feel like this is the year where it could be.

No, Aller was disappointing with the injury.

You know, and Cade Klubnick got off to a rough start.

I was expecting a lot more from them, but, you know, they.

Ty Simpson be like Tyson.

I love Ty Simpson.

I love Ty Simpson.

I think right now he and Mendoza are the top two guys.

Ty Simpson could win the Heisman Trophy.

Awesome.

He's not making everyday throws now.

He's pushing it down the field.

He's getting out of trouble.

He's got a soul about him, man.

I think his team loves him.

Yeah.

And he's also, he's that type of guy like third and long.

I trust you.

Yeah, when you go to Georgia and win and eliminate Georgia's longtime home winning streak, and the way he did it,

he is a dog.

He's a coach's son.

I've had a chance to to meet him.

He came down to our office.

He's the real deal, man.

What do you think about Arch down in Oklahoma?

I like Arch.

I think that was a signature win for him against Oklahoma.

You know, down the stretch, they're 10 for 13 on third down.

The touchdown pass on third and eight from the 12-yard line.

He ends the game with a scramble.

I think that's a great launching pad for Arch.

So you're buying stock on Arch.

You haven't sold Arch?

I've never sold any stock in him.

I was disappointed, obviously, because the expectations are so high.

You know, you open up at Ohio State against Matt Patricia.

It's not like Arch had a ton of tape to study on Matt Patricia.

That's about as hard as it gets for anybody.

But I think this is going to be a great launching pad for Manning.

I expect him to really take off now.

Yeah, what do you think about the Giants?

We saw a great performance from them on Thursday.

An exciting performance.

That was a fun game to watch with Scataboo and Dart out there just like running into everybody, going face first into linebackers.

It was a fun game to watch.

Are you sold on Dart?

Because I know that you had him in your office, right?

You guys watched the artist.

I mean, he's got a lot of the intangibles that you just really want in your locker room.

And he's athletic and he's an arm talent guy.

He can do a lot.

He's a smart, competitive guy.

I'm not shot in the ass with them yet.

You know, they went to New Orleans and have five straight turnovers on five straight possessions.

You know, they failed miserably.

They beat the Chargers.

I think they had 66 yards passing.

The Chargers were decimated on offense.

I liked what they did against Philly, but that was a real short week.

I want to see it now.

I want to see him go to Denver.

They've had a couple extra days to prepare.

They're going up against a hell of a defense that's going to force DARP to do some things at the line of scrimmage.

But I will say this.

He's got to keep his head out of this tackling.

He's got to be smarter when he's running around.

Twice he's been in that concussion tent.

They got to make sure they keep him healthy.

He's got to keep himself healthy.

I think sometimes he watches his teammate Scatterboo run, and he's like, I want to do that.

That looks like the crowd's getting into it.

Because there was one point in the game on Thursday when Scatterboo was just running people over, and that Dart kept it, went on a scramble, saw a safety, and he just leapt like headfirst into the safety to try to knock him out, try to get involved in whatever Cam's got going on.

He needs to be like a little bit smart.

Just keep your head out of the tackle, right?

I mean, they could have fined Dart for that.

Yeah.

You know, I've seen runners get fined for lowering their head using the helmet as a weapon.

Look, the quarterback's the only guy that can't play with a sore right shoulder or a broken right finger.

And when you get into the concussion protocol, you can be out for a couple weeks.

Availability is the number one ability you got to have.

And the Giants need Dart more than any other team needs a quarterback.

He has really brought life to this franchise.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

I got one last question for you, Coach.

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We're six weeks into the NFL season, week seven coming up.

I think we asked for your Super Bowl winner before the season.

I'm going to let you pick again right now.

Who do you have in the Super Bowl?

Who do you have winning the Super Bowl?

I think I had Baltimore and Green Bay.

Before the season, you're saying.

Before the season.

And what you can amend now?

I really like Tampa Bay, honestly.

Yeah.

I like Tampa Bay.

They're doing it with mirrors right now.

They've got some really good players about about to return.

The quarterback's having an MVP type season.

I think the Seattle Seahawks are a sleeper.

I think this defense is really pretty good.

You're high on Sam Darnold.

I'm high on Sam Darnold, man.

I like Ngigba Smith a lot.

I think they've got a couple good backs.

They can close you out with a fourth quarter pass rush.

I like them a lot.

And then in the AFC, I'm all in on Kansas City.

I'm all in on the Chiefs.

It's nuts how the more things change, the more they stay the same with the Chiefs.

And when

you always bring up the green team, and now I'm looking out for the green team out there in the fourth quarter.

And it's real, who has the best green team in the NFL?

Well, the Seahawks are pretty good.

You know, I like, you know, in the AFC, you know, you look at Buffalo and you just don't see a lot of

consistency out of the team.

But the best green team, I wanted to say it was going to be Green Bay with Parsons.

And, you know,

you got 52 over there.

You got Devontae Wyatt, Rashawn Gary.

I just haven't felt them against Dallas, you know, a couple weeks ago.

I wanted more against Cincinnati.

You know, you got the lead, man.

You're on defense.

Close these guys out.

That's going to be the Pittsburgh Steelers are another team that I'm really excited about.

I think they have arguably the best fourth-quarter pass rush.

They got three ends that can kick your ass.

Watts, the best.

This her big guy, I don't know why the hell they got this guy.

He's unbelievable.

And High Smith's healthy.

They got a lot of good blitzes, man, and they're not afraid to call them.

And they got the guys in the back end that can cover you, Big Cat.

Slay.

Jalen Ramsey plays free safety corner.

Nickel.

He's a badass, man.

I mean, they got some guys.

Deshaun Elliott's an intimidating presence in the middle of your defense.

And I love Patrick Queen and Peyton, whatever his name is, Wilson, number 41.

The Steelers.

They're dangerous.

They've got a great fourth quarter pass rush.

All right, Coach, you're the best.

Always great seeing you.

Love you.

We love football.

Remember that.

We love football.

Stay positive.

The Bears, yeah three straight wins the commanders come on pf they've got to get some turnovers man yeah turnovers have been pit mikey needs to catch those balls we need mclaren back bat well i think we're getting him this week yeah he's a different points yeah points we need points there's gonna be so many points yes i agree 64 and a half is the number i'm not panicking yet on the over if we lose this one i might start to panic because then you got the the lions or the chiefs then the lions afterwards that might be an issue and by the way check out coach gruden's uh game previews you do three a week Yeah.

They're awesome.

You strap in.

It's like 45 minutes to an hour of a game.

It's the best.

You feel like you know every angle of the game when you're watching these game previews.

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All right, let's wrap up.

We got Fire Fest of the Week.

Hank?

Yeah, Fire Fest of the Week.

I mean, both involving two of my favorite, one, one current NFLer, one former NFLer, but just the Jared Goff saga, all the reports coming out.

Dan Campbell saying that the ref told him that the call came from the NFL.

NFL saying that never happened.

Just something's not adding up.

Yeah, it's a touchdown that won't die.

Yeah.

Because we've gotten updates on this touchdown.

It seems like every day this week, there's another wrinkle to it.

And a lot of the times when you, you know, NFL rigged, it's like it just goes away.

Yeah.

You know, people, the fans of whatever happened, they bitch about it for like maybe a day and then it goes away.

This is just every day, more stories, more clips.

Jared was on, you know, press conference being like, yeah, it was, I thought it was completely fine.

I don't understand it.

Dan Campbell news, just, it won't go away.

Do you ever listen to other podcasts and you just like catch astray?

on part of my take?

Like they talk about something that happened on part of my take on another podcast that you're listening to and and you're like, whoa, I thought it was outside of my little world for a second.

What was that?

That happened to me this week.

I listened to the Bears podcast.

Chris Felica, awesome guy.

Yeah, yeah.

And they were talking about the bad beat of the week, and it was like, yeah, Hank at Barstool got destroyed by this Jared Goff touchdown.

Yeah.

I've just been reminded of it.

Like, every single day, there's been something else about Hank's beat.

But Jared did text me saying that he saw your reaction on Monday and it made him laugh a little.

Yeah, no, I'll be.

He's a Hank guy.

You're a Jared guy.

Love Jared.

Love, I'll be, I'll be Jared anytime, touchdown for the remainder of the season.

Yeah, yeah.

Dots gotta change.

He's gotta get revenge.

Yeah.

And then kind of PFT, similar to your point of catching a stray on a podcast you listen to,

Feidelberg was on Julian Edelman's Games with Names podcast, and they were talking.

Well, they talked about the jail story, and they were, you know, Edelman was like, did Hank really take a shit?

Which that was, you know, I never want to hear that.

Or like watching the clip, I was like, ooh, yeah.

And then Feidelberg,

he asked Feidelberg to rank his Mount Rushmore of Barcelona, and then Feidelberg asked Julian to rank his Mount Rushmore of Barcelona personalities.

He said Dave, Big Cat, PFT, and then he was, you know, pondering the fourth.

Feidelberg was like, oh, what about Hank?

And then Julian, kind of in a callback to our Mount Rushmore of recurring guests, is like, he's more of an honorable mention guy.

Oh, I love it.

That's good.

Which I honestly like, you know, eye for an eye respect, hat tip.

That's, you know,

he holds on to it.

He was, he was, and he doesn't forget.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that I'm going to be aware of.

So who's

Roan?

Okay.

That's a good Mount Rushmore.

That's a really strong Mount Rushmore.

Great Mount Rushmore.

So yeah, my Firefest is

not putting Edelman on

five years ago.

But you inspired him to be great.

Yeah.

Yeah.

His podcast rocks.

Kind of like Belichick.

You treat him like Belichick did.

Yeah.

That's your same relationship.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exact same relationship.

Did you guys see that Mike Lombardi visited Saudi Arabia to try to drum up money for UNC this offseason?

Oh, boy.

Yeah.

Oh, boy.

Yeah.

Okay.

There are lots of stories coming out about

that program.

They're trying.

Belcheck was probably like,

I agree with the Saudis on a lot of things about journalism.

I think they treat journalists right over there.

That's true.

All right.

Your Fire Fest PFT.

My Fire Fest, it actually happened yesterday.

Big Cat alluded to it during an ad read, but we went to the National Association of Convenience Stores.

Yes.

The big convention that was downtown.

Actually, kind of fun

to go there because you just walked around and it was just products and snacks.

Memes and Zach, they had bags full of swag.

They were just walking.

Memes actually was like, we were walking out and memes goes, oh, the hot food's over there.

Can we go there?

And we're like, we just want to go home, dude.

And he was just like, but what about the foot-long mozzarella sticks?

And we're like, they have foot-long mozzarella sticks.

And memes says, I don't know, but probably.

He just, he had made it up in his head.

They almost bought tickets today to go back.

Yeah.

No, was like $250,000.

You should have.

I would go back.

It's just like everything, you feel like you're in a giant Buckeys.

Wait,

is it tomorrow, too?

I think so.

I'll buy you tickets to go back.

You guys want to make a video?

If you guys want to go, Zach and Memes, I will pay for your tickets to go.

You can decide later.

That's easy.

Zach wants to go really bad.

So it's really best friends, by the way, which I love.

They are best friends.

Yeah, just walking around that place.

After we got done with our little meet and greet, I probably drank five or six different cans of sparkling water or sparkling water energy drink just that people were handing out for free.

So I was super hydrated.

And then I made the long walk back to the garage to go to my car to drive out of there.

And by the time I got to my car, I really had to pee super bad, really bad.

So I got in my car.

I had an empty body armor bottle in my car.

So I'm in the garage.

Unfortunately, what, 90% of the time, I wear shorts.

I was wearing pants.

Yep.

And I was like, well, let's go make it a little bit tougher to pee, but there's no chance I can get home because I have to pee like right now.

So before I leave, I'm just going to try to pee in my car.

And so I pulled down a little bit, started to pee.

Then I see in my side view mirror, there's a group of people that's walking up like right next to my window as I'm peeing.

So I did the only thing that I could do, which is I tried to pinch, stop, and pull up.

So I'm not like, nobody walks past me and just sees me like pissing into a bottle in my driver's seat.

It's a lot of tension.

It's a, it's a lot of tension.

And as I,

as I tried to pull my pants up and I, you have to let go before you pull the pants up, even though I did the pinch at the tip and then put it back in as I was putting it in, it just shot out all over all over my window.

Then it got on me a little bit.

And then by that time, my pants were all the way up.

And then for about five seconds afterwards, it just keeps pissing.

And so I just sat there in my car.

When you say keeps pissing, you mean your own penis.

My own penis.

I got pissed on.

My own penis just kept on pissing by my own penis, the guy that I'm supposed to be.

We're supposed to be allies.

Yeah.

That's happened to me.

I've done this before.

Can I give you a tip, though, for the future?

I got home, and my pants were like full-on, soaking wet.

That's brutal.

And then Blake came up to me and just wanted to smell me.

Oh, yeah.

I had to go upstairs and take a shower.

I'm surprised he didn't pee on you.

Yeah.

Double market.

The move there, though, is you don't sit in your seat.

You have the door open and you stand like leaning into your car because then it's a little like the sitting peeing in a bottle always is a problem.

It's always hard to cut it off.

So you kind of stand like you're almost looking for something.

So that way, if someone walks by, they can't see your penis.

They can see maybe the back of you like leaning into your car, but that's the move you got to do.

I thought about doing that, but there were people that were like milling around the parking lot.

So I didn't, I felt uncomfortable standing there peeing

while I could see people.

But you're, but like, you're, everything is below your car door, like the window, and it just looks like you're like, kind of just, like, standing in your car.

I've, I've done that a million times.

That's the move.

I probably didn't think it through enough, but what I ended up doing was probably, probably the worst thing that I would have done.

And then I drove home and I looked like...

I was looking around my car and on the front windshield and on my driver's side windshield, there was just like a streak of pee from when I unpinched

and just shot across the entire car.

Uh, so yeah, I, I, I pissed all over myself yesterday.

Damn.

Um,

that's a brutal one.

My Firefest is uh, I mean, we've all dealt with this, uh, but

and I, I feel like PFT, I'm, I'm now realizing I'm you and I are more alike than I realize, but I, I've been trying to dress a little bit nicer and bought some new jeans, and I just keep having people be like, whoa, jeans?

Yeah, and I just don't know what to say.

I can, I, I, how do I just be, I'm like Shane Shane trying to become a ring guy.

Like, can I wear jeans?

But everyone just keeps commenting on them.

And it makes me self-conscious that I got to go back to joggers.

Yeah, go back to, but make sure they're pulled all the way down.

Yeah, people were calling my, they were saying I was wearing capris on Monday night.

They weren't.

They were just hiked up because I put my legs up because I'm too fat to sit like a normal human being.

There's no chance McDaniel wears caprice during this weather that they're going to have, right?

I bet you he does.

Like 60.

It's going to be 60, but it's going to be windy and maybe rainy.

Yeah.

He's got to change it.

But yeah, I don't know.

I think the problem is I don't think these jeans are the shout out Muggsy.

Very comfortable jeans.

Just can't can't wear jeans anymore.

The problem with guys like us is the buttons.

If somebody sees us wearing a button anywhere on our body, they're like, oh, what's going on with you?

Dressed up today.

Yeah, dressed up.

What's going on?

Like a funeral later?

It's just, I'm in that mode.

It's usually right around fall where I get in the same every fall, it's the same thing.

Like right around October, I'm like, you know what?

I'm going to start dressing like an adult.

And I buy some new stuff.

And then I try for a couple weeks, month, maybe a month and a half.

And then winter comes.

And then I'm like, now I'm just going to wear sweatpants.

But this is my dressing like an adult time.

You're in your era.

Yeah.

Your buttons era.

It's about four weeks.

Zach, finish us off.

My fire fest this week is also a little bit of aquatic, like PFTs

happening again this morning.

Late last week,

rubbed my eyes, got out of bed, wet foot instantly.

There, a little bit of a flood situation.

Water is just coming up from the shower.

Had the maintenance guy come in.

He said he would come when I was there.

He didn't come while I was there.

He came

on his own accord.

I go in there.

He's just in there doing his thing.

He said he fixed it, promised me he fixed it.

This morning, wake up, no wet foot, but soaked.

entry and bathroom.

Every towel and most t-shirts available used to sop up.

Dryer space isn't really there to dry those things

so which

shower do you have a shower that just has like a flat bottom to it or is it like a tub there's no tubs it's it's just flat with the floor too so like water water's coming out when it decides to and also if I use the sink so you're so you just woke up at one point this morning and just the first thing you did was step into a puddle I didn't step in water this morning this time it wasn't wet foot Last Friday was wet foot this was the return of the floodgate okay because that's a terrible thing to step into a puddle immediately.

It was mystery liquid, too.

Like, I would have had no idea where it was coming from.

And I don't know what to do.

I was thinking about rioting.

Rioting?

A one-man riot?

Yeah, one-man riot is maybe on my agenda.

So

he didn't fix it.

He said he did, but there's no way he did because we're wet again.

We're so wet.

This might be a systemic problem in your apartment building.

You think I should ask around?

I think there might be a problem.

I don't want to freak you out.

Yeah.

But there was one time this apartment building that had a serial killer in it, and everybody's all their shit backed up because the guy was flushing body parts down his toilet.

Oh,

and that's how he got caught.

Yeah.

So that's what that side is.

I think that serial side.

Again, I don't want to freak you out.

Okay.

That's good.

Yeah, they could flush anything.

They could be flushing all sorts of stuff before legs and arms.

Yep.

But it could be a dude also flushing legs and arms, I guess.

It could be legs and arms.

Double locked doors.

Yeah.

Do you have an idea of who that might be, like of your neighbors?

I have no clue.

No.

We got to get this figure out.

I can investigate.

We can't have you be wet like this.

No, don't investigate.

I don't want you to.

Yeah.

You mind your own business.

Stay inside?

Yeah, yeah.

Stay inside.

Stay inside.

Stay inside.

Damn.

Wait, don't check the water.

That foot is brutal, bro.

You don't know where it's coming.

I assume it's not like clean water.

No.

It wasn't like murky, but it's also coming from the drain.

Which can't be good.

Right.

Yeah.

So then I started thinking other people's shower water and that just made me want to jump out the window.

No smell to it?

No smell as of yet.

Okay.

Hopefully this doesn't progress in that direction.

I'm sorry.

All good.

That sucks.

Max, no traveling.

No, done till Thanksgiving.

I'm so excited.

You're ready.

You're back.

And I canceled plans this weekend.

Oh, let's go.

Yep.

I told.

McCarthy, he's a guy who works here a while ago I would go to Ohio State Wisconsin.

You jacked the tables?

Yep.

Okay.

I told him I would go to Ohio State, Wisconsin, and I just said, I can't do it.

No game to skip.

Yeah, good game.

It's going to be a bad game, yeah.

Real bad game.

CBS game.

I actually felt really bad for J.J.

Watt because on last Sunday, he was doing his game on CBS, and they had multiple times they had to do the promo for Wisconsin-Ohio State.

So it's just like shit.

We were looking at tickets this week, just like by happenstance.

$2.

Turned on game time.

$80, 50-yard line, eight rows up.

Yep.

It's like great deal.

If you want to go to that game, great deals on game time.

Saw a rumor, Matt Campbell, maybe.

I'd be down for Matt Campbell.

He's a guy who can get you eight to nine wins every year.

Yeah.

And nothing more.

Max, have you seen?

Have you seen who's going to be on College Game Day this weekend?

I have not.

James Franklin.

No well.

James Franklin is going to be on College Game Day this weekend.

Like the guest picker?

I don't know if he's the guest picker.

Where are they doing it?

I just saw an article on, I think it was, somebody linked me to it on Awful Announcing.

Let me see.

Let me double check that to make sure it was.

Big noon kickoffs to be at the Holy War.

Very excited for that game.

BYU, Utah.

Yeah, he's appearing live on College Game Day.

His first public appearance since his firing last week.

It really wasn't that long.

Yeah.

You don't need to do a first public appearance.

Like,

we got it.

I think, is this like his audition just so he can be like, I'm making a good faith effort to find a job?

Yeah, definitely.

All right, numbers.

Three.

There you go, memes.

Back.

22.

Ticko memes.

33.

10.

Let's go

49.

15.

Everyone watch PM TV.

99, Pug.

55.

83.

Shane, you got the rings on?

Fuck yeah.

43

and we have 43

no 43 memes

nope it's just not gonna happen.

No, it's really it's three in there.

I don't know.

Have you ever looked?

No, you want to do one more?

Yeah, let's do one more.

One more.

No change of numbers.

Everyone keeps their number, yep.

49.

Is it in there?

22.

I assume it is.

That would be very interesting.

I've seen it in there before.

I just saw it.

I think it's going to hit right now.

35.

Not even close.

35.

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