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On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings, week seven in the NFL.

We're going to recap every game.

We had a wild, wild finish out in Denver.

We had

not great games to start the slate, but the afternoon was incredible.

Some high-scoring games.

We're going to talk Sunday night football.

We got who's back of the week.

We have some playoff baseball talk.

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Welcome to part of my take, presented by DraftKings.

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Today is

Monday, October 20th, week seven.

What?

What?

What?

What are you going to be for Halloween, Tege?

I'm going to go as a person with a gun in his mouth.

Oh, no.

Football is stupid and nobody should watch it.

We get dark early.

All right, we start in London where the Jaguars took on the Rams as Trevor Lawrence tried his best to spread the idea of football overseas, not the actual play play on the pitch.

Matthew Staff Rob Ford, who didn't eat the pussy, he has more than enough at home, Tege, gave the cats a licking, easily finding the cracks in the secondary.

Devontae John Adams gained American independence from the Jaguars defense, scoring three times.

And Sean McClubshecher hit it from all positions as the Rams routed the Jaguars.

Rams 35, Jaguars, seven.

We go over to sunny Cleveland, Ohio, where the Polynesian quarterbacks Tago Viola and Gabriel were a couple island boys, leaving Miami fans asking to Hawaii through all those interceptions.

Quinshawn Connery Junkins was pounding the rock, looking at McDaniel saying, losers complain about trying their best.

Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

The Dolphins tried to fight back, but Mike McDaniel pulled his biking pants up high, and the cycle continues for Miami as D.

Eskridge wasn't very armstrong, losing one of his balls.

The Cleveland defense feasted as Tyson Campbell was chicken soup for the Brown Soul, getting a pick six as Andrew Berry proclaimed, I would draft 500 Miles Garretts, and I would draft 500 more just to be the man who got McDaniels fired to make people forget Flacco.

da.

Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da.

I'm going as Budwire for Halloween.

Cleveland steamer to Dolphins.

31 to 6.

To Kansas City where Zach was on the scene.

In Kansas City, Patrick Starr Mahomes firmly grasps it and throws it to Rajee Rice Krispy Treat, who snap crackles and pops his way right into the end zone to kick things off.

Patrick trick or treat Mahomes jump scares the Raiders defense with a spooky shot.

Short right to Hollywood Walk of Fame Brown as he stares straight into the end zone.

Later, Patrick Mahoho Holmes, Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

Shoots a pass, gift wrapped in Rashi Rice paper down Oakland's chimney for another six points.

Neil Patrick Harris Mahomes told quite the story today, but it wasn't about anyone meeting your mother.

It was all about kicking Raider ass.

She's 31, Oakland Zero.

Thanks, Zach.

Up to Minnesota for Max.

We head over to Minnesota where Carson Wednesday Batams had Vikings fans saying, he's creepy and he's kooky Mysterious and loopy He's all together poopy Wednesday Batams should be QB3 doo doo doo doo doo Vic Fangio was screaming you're beautiful to Jalix James Blunt when he secured the early pick six to extend the Eagles lead On the other side of the ball the Eagles had a very obvious game plan Devontae Mac Smith no matter what as he exploded for a career day with 183 yards and a tud plus while AJ Aldeen was on the verge of burning the team down, he finally broke out for two touchdowns and over 100 yards, including a late dagger to win the game.

Eagles 28, Broncos 22.

Thanks, Max.

In Chicago, where there were concerns, Ben Mince Johnson was going to be lazy this week in preparation for New Orleans.

Concerned too much about the widespread of four and a half points, but Jake Moody saved the day and looked past any of his old misses, going four for four.

Spencer Prattler stumbled back down the hills he's been trying to climb as a pro, throwing three interceptions, hitting Nishan.

Right stuff, baby.

Kevin stopped a Bayard and

Kenny Tremaine Edmonds.

Sorry, that last one sucked, Dick.

Some are saying the Bears may be back as they go marching on the Saints.

Bears 26.

Saints 14.

And then we go down to Nashville where Hank was there.

In Nash Vegas, the Titans started off hot when Chimre DK Mutombo said no, no, no, no, to Marcus Jones as he zoomed past him into the end zone to give the Titans an early lead.

In the second quarter, Drake May VP connected with Austin.

Did you put a tongue in or Hooper?

For seven.

And then Kay Sean White Booty hit a Steady Double McQuist 39-yarder to give the pass the lead headed into the locker room.

In the second half, Ramondre Agassiz Stevens sits at.

Ugh,

to rushing into the end zone for six.

And then Cam Mickey Ward looked like he got hit in his head body head body after fumbling the ball to give the defensive TD to the Pats.

Patrick will marching 31-13.

Sticking in the AFC East memes and the Panthers Jets.

In New Jersey, the Panthers defense was waking up hard because Miso JC Horne,

who was

the lead member of the two-pick crew and holding the Jets offense to no touchdowns on the day.

day.

Xavier Musketeers Legette put on a strong performance in Big East Rutherford with a touchdown set up by Chuba Duba Doo on a screen.

It truly was a pick'em on the field as Rico Datto got put back on the meds by the Jets defense that resulted in the numbers being down.

As for the Jets offense, Brees Holland Oates said, you're making my dreams come true by taking Justin to a fields upstate and putting him out of his fucking misery and replace him with Tyrod Taylor Swift who just released a new song, Wood, which isn't about Travis Kelsey's enormous cock.

It's actually about the Jets owner who fucks an entire fan base year after year.

Jets lose.

Panthers 13.

Jets 6.

Straight job, memes.

We go down to Big D, where George Pickens Pot Pie was burning Marcus Lattice Moore over the top from the start, making Marshawn eat his ass crust first.

I did Marshawn and Marcus there.

The Jaden Daniels son was in the face of the Commanders with a murderous row of wide receivers, Robbie Josen, Jalen Lane, Lane, and Chris Moore, which is ironic because you got speedster Cavante Turpin behind a wheel, and you think, wow, instead of driving on the median, that guy should have chosen Moore Lane.

The Cowboys kept their foot on the gas, finding A C D C Lamb, who's back to catching more T D's and the Dunda Cheap.

More T D's and the Dunda Cheap.

Bodak Yellow Prascott was making a commies defense look like Cardi B trying to run Cardio.

Meanwhile, Terry McLaurin is going to have to sit on that white-ass Peloton all week if he wants to get back on the practice field.

The Commanders are back to being the worst team in the NFC and nothing burgundy and gold can ever stay.

Washington fans were so happy last year because finally one good thing happened to them and now they're back to being bad at football and the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl again.

Max is laughing because the Eagles are still good.

The Nats are in year one again of a year seven rebuild.

Georgetown basketball sucks.

Ovi's retiring.

Josh Harris was in the Epstein finals.

Oh no.

Even though it was just because he didn't like Epstein and basically fired the CEO of the Carlisle group for being close with Epstein.

But people won't do enough research.

Oh, well, at least we still have the Washington Wizards.

Dallas a lot.

Commanders, a little.

Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston in Hoboken.

Such a fine sight to see.

It's a Giants tonight, my lord.

Going in for more.

No way the Browns can score 33.

Come on, Bo

Nicks.

Won't you please throw

picks?

There's no chance in hell that we choose.

The Giants did, in fact, choke it.

Broncos 33.

Giants 32.

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Okay, week seven in the books.

We will update Sunday Night Football at the end.

Falcons and Niners are in a clash right now.

It started

in Hank's favorite country, London.

That is

another London game.

Rams 35, Jaguars seven.

God damn it, am I so sick of these games?

This was

This was basically over almost instantly because it was the Rams and Sean McVay being an incredible head coach being like, hey, we don't have Puka Nakua, and we've got to figure out a way to win this game, and let's go with three tight ends on every single play and just throw it to all of our tight ends.

They went three tight ends in 40% of their snaps.

Just for reference, the Rams in the last three years, they ran three tight ends, 13 personnel, six total times in the last three years.

They did it 24 times today.

And they just mashed the tight ends in their face, and then they get to the red zone, and then Devontae Adams will score a touchdown.

I think it was half them doing this because they had the puka thing, and then half doing this because McVay knows that Cohen knows everything that he knows from the Rams' offense.

So, he was preparing for the Rams' offense that he used to be a part of, and then he just rolled something completely new out there.

I saw somebody point out this is exactly what Belichick did to McVay in that Super Bowl, where they just

suffocated the Rams and they couldn't get anything going.

That's exactly what what McVay then, in turn, did today to Liam Cohen and the Jaguars.

Do you know, by the way, Sean McVay, looking at the stats, you know, he's 5-7 against his assistants, but he's 5-2 against all assistants not named Matt LaFleur.

Oh.

He's 0-5 against Matt LaFleur.

I did not realize.

5-2 against assistants, not named Matt LaFleur.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

I also think that McVay might have just hacked the entire globe.

I think time zones might not exist anymore.

Yeah.

Because he just, he flew in, like, the Rams parachuted into England on Saturday.

Saturday morning.

And then they just like slept there one night and then they left.

There's also a chance that McVay, well, we know that he's an AWL, that he listens to part of my take.

Every time we say it's time to set the clocks forward an hour, McVay might actually do that.

So he's just off anyway.

So he's just been on London time for like the last three weeks.

Yeah.

He's just been five hours ahead.

By the way, I was wrong again.

It is next weekend.

So Stafford, five touchdowns.

I feel like he could have even had a better day, but they kind of just went into we have won this game when they were up 21-0 at half.

And the entire

game after the Rams went up 21-0 was the Jaguars, every time you looked up at the TV, the Jaguars were failing a fourth down or

driving the ball and getting zero points.

They went six straight drives where they got past the 50-yard line and got zero points out of those six straight drives.

They went to the 45, the Rams 45 punt, to the Rams 32 misfield goal, to the Rams 11 turnover on downs, to the Rams 30 turnover on downs, to the Rams 27 turnover on downs, to the Rams 48 punt.

Six straight drives where they went past the half field and got zero points.

It was abysmal to watch.

Yeah, after they missed that field goal, I think Liam Cohen just made the choice.

Like, we're just going to go for it every time.

And then it just never worked for them.

Yeah, and it kept failing for different reasons each time.

That's why it's so hard to place

any one person with the blame for the Jaguars because Trevor Lawrence,

he does just stupid stuff sometimes.

So I threw this out to you earlier today.

I think he's the most sackable quarterback we have.

And I say that.

So he got sacked seven times.

I think he got sacked.

I think he's been sacked 14 times the last two games.

I say that not like, it's not like late Eli Manning where he would do self-sacks.

Trevor Lawrence can run a little bit.

Trevor Lawrence is athletic.

Trevor Lawrence, I think, is 0 for 100 on spin moves that don't work.

He like, he'll spin or try to sidestep sidestep, and a guy will get one arm on him, and he'll be sacked.

I think I know what the reason is because he does that spin move a lot.

And it never works.

But with the quarterbacks that are able to do the spin move and it works,

the pass rusher doesn't know that he's about to spin.

Right.

With Trevor Lawrence, he like looks too much at the Blitzer that's coming in where he's pretending to look out of like the side of his eye, but he turns his head a little bit and the guy's like, oh, this guy knows that I'm coming right now.

A really good quarterback will just like kind of stare straight ahead and the Blitzer won't know that he's about to spin.

Trevor doesn't do any of that.

No, he doesn't.

He never does that.

But yeah, I mean, he forgets where he is on the field more than any other quarterback in the NFL.

He misses some throws.

He makes a lot of throws, but it feels like the Jaguars are never in sync with each other.

No.

They're never in sync.

Like when Trevor makes a good pass, that's when Brian Thomas just like completely forgets how to catch a football.

They've been over in London so much, they forget that they're allowed to use their hands, and he'll just like drop it off his fingertips or hear the footsteps or whatever.

Just somebody new screws up each time, and it's very hard to put your finger on exactly what the problem is in Jackson.

Liam Cohen summed it up perfectly exactly what you just said after the game.

He said,

everything we said we didn't want to do did occur.

Yeah.

That's right.

Maybe stop saying, maybe stop living in your fears.

Yeah, don't say what you don't want to do because then you'll start thinking about it and be like, oh, fuck, I'm going to do this.

He did the actual, like,

be a real shame if

Cardi missed a 34-yard field goal today.

Right.

It would be a real shame if Brian Thomas Jr.

missed another catch over the middle of the field.

By the way, the stats on that, catchable targets over the middle of the field to Brian Thomas Jr.

this year have a negative 17.1 completion percentage overexpected this season.

I don't really understand how this stat works, but I know that when you have negative 17.1 completion percentage overexpected, that's bad.

Yeah, my takeaway from this game is just Jaguars just get Travis Hunter the ball more.

Did they unlock him?

They unlocked Travis Hunter at the end of the game.

He scored his first touchdown.

Because he's locked in.

He's locked in.

He didn't get baptized before this game.

Yep.

When there was just one footprint in the sand, that's when I was burning Jesus on a double move.

And it worked out.

Now, did it happen maybe because it was garbage time?

I still think he was the biggest bright spot of the day.

Absolutely.

And he played pretty good on defense, too.

We also have a classic who actually won the game

debate that we can do.

And I'm referring to Monday night football, Jaguars versus the Chiefs.

So Monday Night Football, Jags get the biggest win, regular season win in maybe franchise history, but at least in the last 10 years or whatever you want to call it.

Since that game, the Jaguars are 0-2 being outscored 55-19.

The Chiefs are 2-0 outscoring their opponents 61-17.

Who won that game?

At what cost?

The Chiefs won that game.

Yeah, smart move.

Heady move by the Chiefs.

Yeah.

Great job throwing it off.

To let Trevor Lawrence find a way into the end zone at the end of that game.

Great job throwing that pick.

Yeah, this game, it again should remind us that the Rams are now 12-3 in their last 15 against the spread.

They're really good.

Pretty impressive win.

Matt Stafford after the game, he was talking about throwing five touchdowns.

His response was, do I get a sword or something?

Like for throwing five touchdowns in England.

Why don't they?

I think we should send him a sword.

He should have to get it out of a stone.

Yeah.

I actually think that we should send him a sword.

We should send him a sword.

Is that legal?

Can you send a...

To mail a sword?

Let's mail him a sword.

Let's mail it to Jerry,

and Jerry O'Connell will give it to him because he's like buddy-buddy with them, goes on their podcast.

Yeah, next time he's on with Kelly, he'll just walk in the door carrying a sword.

I think he's a recurring, I think he's a co-host.

Yeah, he's a member.

Yeah.

But yeah, the Rams are really good.

The Jaguars, so I think both teams have a buy coming up.

The Jaguars need it badly because they started hot and they have not looked good the last two weeks.

The Rams are 100% in Super Bowl contender territory.

Would you agree?

I would agree.

Yeah.

They play next, so they have a buy, then they play the Saints at home, and then they have like a tough little stretch where they play the Niners, Seahawks, and Bucs.

But I'm not, the Rams are for real, for real.

They basically are in the, can we get everyone healthy for the playoffs?

Can we be healthy when the playoffs come around?

Because their defense is ferocious.

Matthew Stafford is still just as good as ever.

If Puka Naku is out there, he cannot be touched.

And we found out they can just run three tight ends every single play if they want to.

Yeah, it doesn't matter.

They can practice for a full week on a baseball field.

That way playing on a soccer field feels easy to them.

Yeah.

It doesn't matter.

Nothing matters to these Rams.

They're going to be, yes, Super Bowl contenders.

Devontae Adams, too, yeah, like three touchdowns.

He was awesome.

He's still very good.

Also, here's a weird stat.

When Trevor Lawrence, so this season, when Trevor Lawrence throws for 250 passing yards or more, the Jaguars are 0-3.

When he throws under 250 passing yards, they are 4-0.

Mm-hmm.

It makes sense to me.

That's not probably not what you want your quarterback, but, you know, just a little more balance.

I got a question for you about the Jaguars.

And

the

number one overall draft pick, was that 2023?

Do you remember his name?

Is he the most free?

I know his name, but do you know.

Are you talking about the picture?

No, you're not talking about Josh Allen.

No.

You're talking about.

He's the most forgettable number one overall pick, I think, maybe in the history of the world.

Georgia.

Yeah, Georgia.

I know his name.

Max, you know his name?

Memes, you know his name, right?

You're Georgia guy.

What is Gerd?

Yes.

Trayvon Walker.

I think he's got to be the most forgettable number one overall pick ever.

And it was two years ago.

And it was two years ago.

He isn't terrible.

That's the thing.

Like, I looked up his stats.

It was 2022.

He's not bad.

But, yeah.

But he's not like.

He doesn't do those flashes of

spectacular.

It's also just weird now.

We're in a day and age where it's just like, if you don't go QB one overall, you don't remember it.

Yeah.

It's like you can go back and

was it, was it Eric Fisher?

Yeah, Eric Fisher was one of those guys.

And I didn't realize this, but his first name is actually Yuri.

Was Jake Long first picked?

Yeah, Chris Long's brother.

Yeah.

For the Dolphins?

Yeah.

We should just do that.

Just remembering guys who got picked first overall.

His name is Yuri Walker.

Yuri Trayvon, I feel like that would be a much more memorable name if you went by Yuri.

Yeah, that would definitely...

It would absolutely stink.

Just call him Yuri Walker.

All right, I'm going to look up real quick so we can go down a little rabbit hole because

this this is an interesting thing to think about.

Like, when it's not a QB, can you always remember it?

So, Cam Ward, Kale Williams, Bryce Young, Trayvon Walker, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Miles Garrett, we remember.

Jadavian,

Eric Fisher in 2013.

Jake Long in 2008.

Mario Williams.

I feel like we remember that just because it was the Reggie Bush debate.

And then you go all the way back, Courtney Brown in 2000.

Yeah.

You got to keep going.

It's just always quarterbacks.

You're right.

Yeah, and I think that if you play in Jacksonville, that also adds an extra level to it where people don't talk about the Jaguars that much in the national media.

Yeah.

I feel bad for Jaguars fans that have to lose this game to London every single year, multiple games at times.

But it's their home game.

It's their home game.

I did look in the crowd.

I saw a lot of just NFL Shield merchandise in the crowd today.

I think they were industry plants.

Am I making it up?

But it does feel like the Jaguars are the only team that gets the 50, like the decal in the 50-yard line.

I feel like a lot of times it's the NFL Shield.

They had the Jaguars.

Yeah, because that's theirs.

Yeah, it's theirs.

London is theirs.

They could afford to ship the stencil overseas.

Hank, because you love these games so much, what was your favorite part about this game?

I watched the first half and then it was over and I stopped watching.

Okay.

I liked, I don't know.

That's going to hurt the ratings.

They might not go back.

Yeah.

I want a Super Bowl in London.

Oh.

The early morning games.

Oh.

Whatever.

So we finally got you turned.

A little bit.

Wait,

what time would they play the Super Bowl over there?

It would air

prime time

Sunday.

We can't do this again.

We can't do this again.

But you agree.

It's just too much.

It was a nice treat.

Now it's just.

They got to do it.

They can't do it back to back to back to back to back.

I know we talked about it.

They're going to do it every single week soon.

But they or just start doing London night football.

Londay night football.

You're right.

This was

the last England game of the year.

Next up, we got Germany and then Spain.

And we're done.

Spain's going to be a movie.

It was,

it is going to be a movie.

It was.

I took a shower at one point during this game, and I think I timed it perfectly for a turnover on Downs, and then I was like, all right, I'm going to go take a shower.

And I came back out, and it was another turnover on Downs.

Yeah.

It was a lot of fun.

It was like, well, that was perfect.

It was a lot of that going on.

I guess I will say something nice about the Jags.

You made it so that we could kind of half-watch the second half.

Like, I tuned in for the first half.

I was like, all right, let's get going.

Let's get some football going.

And then it was so clear that the Jaguars sucked and the Rams were going to win that the second half I was able to keep a side eye on.

Yeah, you didn't really have to focus that much on this game.

It never felt like it was close.

Yeah.

What's up, Max?

Can I say something to Trust Tree?

Yeah, please, Trust Tree.

You didn't watch a second of it.

I didn't know this game existed until you guys started talking about it.

Oh, really?

You didn't.

You thought they were on buys?

You didn't see a highlighter?

I thought they were were on buys.

I didn't see a highs.

You didn't see a highlighter?

I saw nothing.

The highlights were basically Devontae Adams made another touchdown catch.

Yeah.

It was a lot of that.

The one thing I was just looking at the box score.

I feel like

the Jags had a decent amount of yards for only seven points and no turnovers.

I don't get how they only had seven points.

Well, they turned the ball over a bunch.

On downs.

On downs, which is also a turnover.

I guess.

That's very funny that you somehow went the entire day.

I had no idea this game happened.

But that's also, and this is a good segue.

That's also because Max, when the Eagles win, he spends the rest of the day like yucking it up with everyone.

Like, he's like the mayor of this office.

Yeah, he even admitted it.

He was like, if the Eagles had lost that game, I'd just be playing Pokemon in the PMT studio right now.

Instead, he was like

slapping people on the back, just being like, this is so much fun.

He does worst.

He does.

He just walks around.

Max becomes the king of small talk in this office if the Eagles win.

My mood is just on so much.

It's okay.

Don't apologize for it.

So that's the next game.

Eagles 28, Vikings 22.

We should talk about the Eagles, obviously, because Jalen Hurts played great.

But Carson Wentz, what a Carson Wentz performance in that first half, especially.

He went back-to-back picks, and the only reason it was back-to-back interceptions, one of them being a pick six, was that

the play in between the interceptions was actually a fumble because he threw it backwards eight yards.

Yeah, incomplete pass.

It was three plays.

No, it wasn't.

It wasn't an incomplete pass.

It was a fumble.

Yeah, yeah, but he threw it incomplete, like out of bounds, and it counted as a fumble.

Yeah, it didn't count as a pass attempt because it was a fumble.

So that was interception, minus eight yards, fumble, interception.

Yeah, the first interception was very funny.

He got folded in half by Jalen Carter and then just laid on the ground.

I realized something watching this game, Max.

And I can't control how I feel.

Feelings are never wrong.

It's how we react to our feelings that can be wrong.

I think I enjoy rooting against Carson Wentz more than I enjoy rooting against the Eagles.

Because watching this game, I found my allegiance going against Carson Wentz.

Like, I wasn't happy that the Eagles were winning, but I was like, I was hoping for worse and worse stuff to happen to Carson Wentz every time he dropped back to pass.

I think I'll just, having him as your quarterback will leave a deep scar on you that you will never forget.

It was very funny the way that you were treating him.

Oh, yeah, there's multiple times where Max was just like saying Carson Wentz and then belly laughing.

Yeah.

Well, I'm

Jalen Carter hit.

Yeah, the hit.

You made everyone in the gambling key.

You're like, everyone, watch this.

Yeah, it was funny.

It was so hilarious.

And then you saw his face right after, as he was getting hit.

It was awesome.

Yeah.

I've got a little

game that we can play here.

It's called Schefter vs.

Schefter.

You ready for this?

Yes.

New game.

I saw this game.

I love it.

New game alert.

This is what Schefter.

This is what what Schefter tweeted out today.

When Vikings quarterback J.J.

McCarthy suffered a week two high ankle sprain, doctors expected it to be a six-week injury.

Nothing has changed.

It still looks like a six-week injury, which means McCarthy would miss next week and possibly be able to return in week nine at Detroit.

That's Schefter number one.

Now entering the arena is Adam Schefter number two.

This is back from

the day after J.J.

McCarthy actually sprained his ankle.

ESPN sources, Vikings quarterback J.J.

McCarthy is expected to be sidelined two to four weeks with a high ankle sprain.

But wait, Adam, but just today you said when it happened, doctors expected to be a six-week injury and nothing has changed.

It still looks like a six-week injury.

What is going on?

He got community noted.

He got community noted

with his own tweet.

Now, why did the timeline change, Adam?

Huh?

Let's unpack that.

I have a theory.

Yes.

I mean, it's probably the same as as all of your guys' theories.

I thought something was kind of weird in Minnesota when they kind of cycled through a bunch of backup quarterbacks over the summer.

And my theory that I asked Florey about at the time, and he laughed at me like I was a fool, was that they just don't want J.J.

McCarthy to feel like there's any pressure on him in case he has to, in case he doesn't start out the season playing well.

Yes.

And he got injured.

It was a real injury, but I don't think it was a six to eight week injury when he sprained his ankle.

And then they put Carson Wentz in, who is the most stopgap quarterback ever.

Yep.

You know that you're going to have these types of games from Carson Wentz, and nobody out there is going to say Carson Wentz should be starting over J.J.

McCarthy.

Correct.

And now they're just really taking their time bringing J.J.

back after playing.

He had one great quarter that he played against the Barrett.

Yes, he did.

But besides that, he hasn't really looked.

He hasn't really done anything to be excited about since he started.

I think

that plays into how O'Connell is handling the situation right now, where it's just like we need this guy to take more time.

Here's the other theory.

And we all do this when you maybe make a mistake and you don't really want to face that mistake.

You're like, oh,

I have to do something.

I have to go, you know, go to the DMV.

I fucked up or I have to go fight this ticket.

I'm going to keep putting it off as long as I possibly can.

Until they tow your car.

Until they tell your car, because I don't want to admit that I made a mistake.

Yep.

they don't have to face the fact that they didn't re-sign Sam Darnold until J.J.

McCarthy officially sucks and if he doesn't play you can never say he officially sucks well they had and I don't think he sucks we'll see he's young he's got to play like I'm not saying JJ McCarthy but I'm saying if he sucks they don't have to and they might know he sucks they might think he sucks through practice whatever but they don't actually have to face that fact if he's not playing I mean everything we know about J.J.

McCarthy would be this guy would like step over a dead body to get back out onto the field correct and And this seems like a long injury for him.

Not only Sam Darnold, they had Daniel Jones too in the building.

Yeah.

Now, I don't know if they would have ever dreamed of paying him as much as the Colts did, but it was still an option.

They had Darnold, they had Daniel Jones, they had some other backups that came in and out.

It just seems kind of strange.

And listen, as bad as the Carson Wentz first half was,

it was the Vikings' defense that was not good today because they have a good defense.

They have, I think, going into the game, they had the second best passing defense in terms of passing yards allowed.

And Jalen Hurts had maybe his best game in a long time at least.

What would you say, Max?

Jalen Hurts was phenomenal today.

He had a

perfect passer rating.

That's the third time ever in Eagles' history.

The other two, McNabb and Foles.

He was five for five, 216 yards, three touchdowns on passes over 20 yards.

He was dropping absolute dimes.

He also

didn't have any rush yards.

He actually had negative 10 rush yards.

Negative 10?

He looked like it.

I think it was from the last couple plays when they were trying to kill time.

He never even thought about running the football today.

He just had a lot of time.

Where it was open, he could have gotten like six, seven yards without breaking a sweat.

And he was just like, no, I'm not going to do that today.

No, yeah.

I think this was his best regular season game of his career when we really, really needed in.

He was really good.

The deep balls were awesome.

For some reason, Jalen Hurts always plays his best football when everyone says that he sucks.

Yeah.

The entire.

So wait, so you should.

When we say he sucks, you shouldn't get mad.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're doing you a favor.

Yeah, I think even I said that he sucks.

I think I did add a bat.

I definitely said he sucks.

I think I did add a right now.

I think I did add a right now.

Yeah.

But I

said that I shouldn't be held accountable for anything that I said that episode because it was right after the Phillies lost.

That's true.

He was 19 for 23, 326 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, was hitting Devontae Smith, was hitting A.J.

Brown.

Everything looked like it worked except for the run game, which still looks like it's a game.

This game was a problem.

Cam Jukins being out could be a big issue going forward.

Hopefully he can get back soon.

But overall, very good game for the Eagles.

Are you happy?

Because this was your must-win or your burning-it-all-down game?

Yeah, no.

And it looked like that.

It looked like

they knew that they needed to win this game and write the shit.

Because if they lost this game to Carson Wentz and looked as bad as they did against the Giants, I think that locker room would have just absolutely crumbled.

Yeah.

I mean, your game plan today

after Juergens went out was basically like, let's do everything that we can to keep our wide receivers very happy with the offense.

And it works.

It works.

The offense is good enough where you don't need Juergens all the time.

183 from Devontae, 121 from AJ.

We'll take that all day.

You know, who else doesn't need Juergens right now?

Who's that?

Mr.

Rossini.

Yep.

Probably pretty happy.

Probably a pretty happy night in the birds' household.

It was a good night.

I would like to see if

the locker room is dysfunctional.

Okay.

Okay.

By the way, I have a question for you, Max.

And this is not a

great game by the Eagles.

What?

This is going to be some bullshit.

It's just a question.

Can I ask a question?

Can we speak in truth?

Wait, wait, can I ask you a question first?

Yeah.

Is this about to be some bullshit?

No, it's not.

Okay, all right.

Why does Jalen Hurts talk like he's a fortune cookie?

Yeah, good question.

Thank you.

He can talk however he wants.

So on Friday, I brought up, he had the quote, smile and accept the challenge.

That's a fortune cookie.

And then today he had, it's not a time to hope.

It's not a time to want or wish something could happen.

It's a time to make it happen.

That is a fortune cookie.

Jalen Hurts talks.

You know wisdom.

You don't know wisdom.

Does he have a little.

Okay, this is actually the hardest.

So, Fortune Cookie Talk by Jalen Hurts actually is something I'm talking about.

It's a cliché's play, though.

Yeah, that's not a cliche.

It's not a time to hope.

It's not a time to want or wish something could happen.

It's the time to make it happen.

That's a well-spoken man right there.

I feel like I look, we can have some fun with this after he had an incredible day.

He was incredible today.

I'm giving Jalen Hurts his flowers.

I'm just wondering why he keeps handing me back a fortune cookie.

The hard question, so I'm going to be monitoring this.

I think it's very funny.

I think it would be funny if he just leans into it and just does only fortune cookie talk.

The thing I'd be nervous about if I were you, Max, is

these type of quotes are

like some early, early signs of Russell Wilson.

That's when you start seeing, you're like, uh-oh.

Is this, do we got a Russell Wilson?

He's always sitting in the locker room.

Yeah, I know, but.

We should make Jalen Hurts fortune cookies.

Yes.

Just take all of his quotes and put them

and make them fortune cookies.

I'm saying it in a nice, like, he had an incredible day.

I like Jalen Hurts as a quarterback.

He's a Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP.

Seems like an awesome dude.

Guy just likes to talk in fortune cookies.

And there's nothing wrong with that if you're winning.

Yeah.

Because if you're winning, everybody sees these weird quotes and they're like, I'm so bought in.

This guy's operating on a different level.

And the second it doesn't work, you're like, wow, that guy's kind of a cornball.

Maybe we should bench him for Kirk Cousins.

This is what happens.

Yes.

He's talking about RG3.

I was talking about RG3.

He's talking about RG3.

Yeah, no,

that's not going to happen.

It's not.

No, it's not.

It's not.

Because he's good enough.

He can say whatever he wants.

Yeah, he had a great game.

Yeah.

He had a great game.

He could just recite the Zodiac letters in his post-game press conference.

Sure.

And everybody would be like, yep, Joel Birds.

Fine with me.

Also, having Jalen Carter and Quinyon Mitchell back was very important.

Jalen Carter was a monster in this game.

That hit was.

I felt that one in my chest.

Oh, you did?

Yeah.

How do you feel after that?

Fat.

Oh, yeah.

Here's the other one.

I just looked.

Jalen Hurts quotes, I had a purpose before everybody had an opinion.

Yeah.

That's a fortune cookie.

Yeah.

That's like that's a senior quote right there.

Yeah.

That's a great quote.

I didn't walk through all that fire just to smell the smoke.

He's getting these from somewhere.

Lucky numbers 3, 48.

Oh,

probably 6, 11.

He's just in a whiplash in his head.

Numbers.

Let's see.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna look look up.

We just need to, as a national sports podcast, this will be our beat.

We just got to be on this beat.

The people want these types of things.

This is what they come to the show for.

They don't come for us to break down coverages.

They come to us to be like, hey, is Jalen Hurts just...

Is he just Panda Express?

Is he just getting all his quotes from Panda Express?

Last week, people were real, real, real mad about the Fortune Cookie responses.

And this week it's fine.

Do you remember when Russell Wilson wrote?

Stop talking about Russell Wilson.

Wait,

No, this is relevant.

Stop doing that.

This is relevant.

It's

when he wrote a Valentine's Day letter to Sierra, and he posted it online.

And then

people found out that he just Googled what to say to a beautiful woman and just copy and pasted the first response to that.

And then he posted it for everybody.

I feel like Jalen Hurts is heavy into AI.

And just looking up on AI, like, hey, what are some good motivational quotes that I could say?

I am humble because I've been humbled.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I kind of like this.

I like this.

Yeah, no, it's

an AI quote machine.

I'll just keep saying he's wise.

He was awesome today.

That's all that needs to be.

He was.

He was very good.

Also, did you like Lane Johnson basically saying, I'm not talking to the media because last week you guys took it out of context and I'm not hurting our team anymore?

That's a good teammate move.

Love that.

He's just like,

I know what's going to happen if I say anything, so we're just not going to say anything.

We're going to win games.

If Lane needs to say anything, he can tell us.

Yeah, that's facts.

Yeah.

The fake Lane Johnson I was texting for a year 10 as well.

If you have anything you want to get off

your chest, man, just hit me up.

Max, what do you think about BG threatening to come back?

I love it.

I think he's done, but.

Do you think he's done in terms of he can't get it done?

He's old, man.

Like, last year he was good,

but you could tell he was looking old.

And

something tells me he's not staying in game shape.

This is actually maybe the best way this could have played out for him.

Like, he gets to do one week of being like, maybe I'll come back.

And then everybody in Philly's like, yeah, come on, come on, dude.

We love you.

We miss you.

You're the missing piece.

And then you win a game.

He's like, actually, I'm good.

I'm good.

I had that moment where I worked out really hard last week,

hit the gym a bunch, and now I don't have to come back.

But it was fun to think that I was going to come back.

Agreed.

I don't know that smashing the Brandon Graham button fixes anything.

Agreed.

Yeah.

I don't know if he's actually the missing piece.

No, you guys are good.

This is a big win.

We're okay.

A great game by Jalix Hunt.

And you have the Giants coming up.

You've got to get revenge.

If you beat the Giants, then you're basically like that two-game blip.

You just be like,

and then we got to buy, and then Nolan Smith comes back.

We really need Nolan Smith back.

Yeah, so then just get healthy.

Get healthy.

Get healthy.

Cam Jergens.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, what is up with Cam Jergens?

I feel like you guys get a knee.

That's the biggest difference between this year and last year is that we just don't have the same depth.

Offensive line, yeah, Makai Bechton.

When guys got hurt last year, we just had enough depth

for it to be all right, but now it's just not the same.

Yeah, maybe, I mean, Saquon's going to be fresh

because he hasn't had a lot of yards.

He doesn't carry it.

It's not like he's bad.

It's just

the yards just aren't there, though.

I can see, like, he's getting so frustrated because, like,

he's getting, like, tough three-yard runs.

Right.

You know what I mean?

Like, there were a couple of runs today where he should have been stopped in the backfield and then he, like, fought for four yards, which, like, doesn't look great in the stat sheet, but it's not his fault.

You know what, though?

He'll be fine.

He'll be fine when you need him.

Yeah, we'll figure it out.

Yeah.

Okay, next up, Bears 26.

Saints 14.

The Bears have now won four in a row for the first time since 2018.

This was an ugly win.

Not the cleanest game from Caleb Williams.

He didn't play very well.

Looked like he had no flow.

But the Bears have a somewhat of an identity where their defense is incredible at taking the ball away.

They had four turnovers takeaways again today.

They've had 15 in the last four games, and they run the fuck out of the ball because DeAndre Swift looked awesome.

Menange looked awesome.

They had 225 yards, just shoved it down the Saints' throat.

And that's a credit to Ben Johnson, who fixed that in the bye week.

And the run game looks totally different the last two games than it did the first four.

And yeah, it was sloppy, but a win is a win, and the gateway remains open.

So what is the gateway to?

The gateway is to when I when I said it before the Cowboys game, I said, don't be shocked if this team is

six and three or

five and four

after nine games.

Okay.

So they are now four and two.

The gateway is very much open.

Big game against the Ravens next week.

But yeah, this is, look, Caleb didn't play well.

He said it, and he looked it.

He just wasn't, there was weird shit with Drew Dahlman in the center.

You know, he's our center

with snaps a couple times.

Actually, one of them saved us because there was the

fourth and goal on the two-yard line that

there was a false start, and we got to kick a field goal, which it was a play that was going to get blown up.

Are you talking about the one where he snapped the ball between his legs?

Caleb touched the ball, and then the center brought the ball back between his own legs?

He did it twice.

That's such a weird thing to happen.

So he did it once that way, and then the other way was he

like moved the ball.

Caleb went to get it,

but he didn't move the ball, and then he tried to snap it.

Caleb fell on it.

They whistled it.

They were like, hey, that's a false start.

And then we kicked a field goal.

He did got your nose with the ball.

Yeah.

He was like, I got it.

But that was kind of what the game, like, it was sloppy.

And the run game saved us, and the defense saved us.

The defense is, like,

kind of good.

I don't know.

You're taking the ball away.

Yeah, I was always nervous about, like, when you live and die, 15 takeaways in four games is insane.

You're not going to be able to do that every single week.

So I understand that.

But.

They also are playing that aggressive style where they're ball hawking.

And yeah, this is a game that they had to win because they're better than the Saints.

And they won this game.

It didn't look great, but that doesn't matter because they won this game.

Next week against the Ravens will be a big test, and I was happy that they won this game.

They also are the only team in the NFL to score 21-plus points in every game this year.

That's pretty crazy.

So, you said that they've won four in a row for the first time since 2018.

Yeah, with Mitch.

They are averaging 25 points a game.

Yep.

That's also for the first time since 2018.

Yep.

And they are leading the league in takeaways through this point this year.

That is also the first time since 2018.

And similar to 2018,

can the quarterback come along?

Feels like 18.

Can the quarterback take more steps forward to unlock everything?

That's actually not a hashtag you want to use.

Yeah.

It feels like 18.

No, because that was the story of 2018.

That defense was incredible, and Mitch was young, and it was just like, can Mitch get better week by week?

And Caleb has gotten better

in the course of this season.

Today was a step back, but that's also,

I've taken a lot more rational approach to the Bears this season.

Step backs are not killer, especially when you win the game.

You can't be down about

a poor performance from Caleb when you win the game.

And your running game was very good today.

Again,

Ben Johnson wants to run the ball.

That's what he did in Detroit.

That's what you forget about great, like boy genius offensive coordinators is they're very, very good at scheming up the run.

Like the crazy plays where he's in his bag and the deep shots, that gets a lot of attention.

But elite offensive coordinators just make the running game seem so easy and so smooth.

So your running backs, your running backs today as a whole, as a tandem, averaged six and a half yards per carry.

They were,

and DeAndre Swift is back to looking like the DeAndre Swift of old when he was at the peak of his powers.

Yeah, he's running hard, he's hitting the hole hard, he's not dancing around, he's like making the correct cuts.

It looks awesome, and he, you know, if this is going to be a team that has to get by on defense and running the football and have Kill slowly progress, that I mean, that's if you just look at what he's done this season, DeAndre Swift, he had 53 yards, 63 yards, 33 yards, 38 yards, bye week, 108 yards, 124 yards.

It's clear what Ben Johnson was doing during the bye week, and he was fixing the run game.

And it feels like he's simplified everything so that we can run the football and play good defense.

And that's what the Bears did today.

And yeah, again, it's the Saints.

So I'm not going to sit here and be like, you know, that was incredible.

Forward to pump your chest out.

I will say

there is something that's starting to make me very happy to watch, and it is is Packers fans complaining about the Bears winning these games because I did.

I bookmarked it.

Let me find it.

This one made me laugh.

Where is it?

I gotta find it.

It was

Mark Oldacers, I assume, is a Packers fans.

He said, teams aren't even trying when they play the Bears.

Shacking my head.

Yeah, I know.

It's true.

It's true.

That made me happy.

As a Commanders fan, Monday night,

I don't care.

Who cares about this game?

It's two.

It's just a, it's a not, it's not in our division, so who gives a shit?

This is exactly what the Saints thought today.

This is the progression.

I've talked about the progression into being no longer a bad team.

We're trying to get to a good team.

We're somewhere in the middle right now.

Another step, not only beating a team you're supposed to beat, even if it looks sloppy at times, another step in the progression is Packers fans complaining that our opponents aren't even trying.

Which is great.

That means we're getting closer and closer when they start noticing and saying, teams aren't even trying against the Bears, shaking my head.

Yeah, you're not rent-free, but rent stabilized yeah yeah you got a voucher yeah and four and two is fun it's fun it is isn't that cool to like look at your team and be like four and two just look at the record it's fun it's so much fun we're still not technically i believe if the playoffs started today we would still be on the outside looking in because the nfc is really fucking good which is uh it's nuts how good the nfc is i think the saints are i think we actually can say after today the saints are the only really bad team in the nfc i don't know that the saints are are really bad though spencer rattler took a step back.

Best he was not.

And we almost fucked up the game because he did have that.

That middle eight, the Saints were cooking.

They ripped down the field to end the first half, scored to start the second half, was like looked up.

Like, holy fuck, it's a six-point game.

But yeah, he had too many mistakes today.

He sunk the Saints.

I think that the Saints are not good.

They're a bad team, but I think I would probably put

three teams in the AFC beneath them.

Right?

Jets, Titans, Dolphins for sure.

Yeah, Jets, Titans, Dolphins.

Browns are probably

four teams.

Yeah, I would take whose spread would it be anyways?

Raiders at Saints.

You're right.

I would take, yeah, those four teams.

Now, did the Saints lose to any of them?

Are we going to.

Are people going to be able to get them?

Yeah, we're probably going to get to them.

Let me look at the.

The Saints actually fucking got dummied by the Raiders, you idiots.

That always happens to us.

The Saints only beat the Giants.

Okay, they only beat the Giants.

Okay, the Saints have lost to the Saints.

No, I'm saying if the Raiders had beaten the Saints, that would have been very much us, where we say that confidently, and then everyone's like, hey, Raiders fucked them up week two.

You forgot.

Saints lost to the Cardinals week one, lost to the 49ers, lost to the Seahawks, lost to the Bills, lost to the Patriots, lost to the Bears.

So, yeah, I would take all four of those teams from the AFC and put them beneath the Saints.

Actually, if we're doing the power of comparison here, Patriots beat the Saints 25-19.

Bears beat the Saints 26-14.

That's interesting.

It is interesting.

It's interesting.

That's interesting.

What are your thoughts, Hank?

I mean, the Saints had crazy assistance from the refs, and they still couldn't beat the Patriots.

I don't think it was as bad for the Bears today.

Well, teams don't try against Wins or Wins.

Teams aren't even trying.

It's disgusting.

Shaking my head.

You don't think about the Patriots at all, though.

What?

PFT doesn't think about the Patriots at all.

No, who cares?

Why would I think about the Patriots?

I was just looking at scores.

Yeah, I just looked it up right now and I wanted to compare.

Sorry for saying you admitted that was interesting when I said that.

I was, yeah.

Yeah, you were interested.

Are you a little upset, Hank, that I'm not, that I'm taking a rational approach to this?

No.

Okay.

It's a long season.

Because you want me to get my hopes all the way up and be like, bears are back.

I don't.

It's a long season.

Because I don't think they are.

I think they're a decent team right now.

I want the Bears to make the playoffs.

Okay.

Six out of 10?

Yeah.

You can't make the playoffs and not get exactly.

I'll tell you this.

Six out of 10 might.

That's the key.

I'll say this

for the Sickos and Perverts.

Hank, I'm looking at you.

We could finally move off 6 out of 10 if they go to Baltimore and beat Baltimore in a healthy Lamar Jackson.

That could possibly move me to a 6.5.

Yeah.

So

we'll we'll find out.

I do think we'll be able to run the ball on them.

Hank, I actually don't think about the Patriots.

I think about you.

I think about defeating you.

Thank you.

How'd the Hungry Dog do?

Oh, who's in The Hungry Dog?

The Hungry Dog's up on the season.

That's all that matters.

Who's in The Hungry Dog this week?

We do talk about it.

The Hungry Dog was the Bears, Saints, and Commanders, which was the week.

Wait, what?

Bears and the Saints?

I mean, the sorry, Saints, Vikings, and Commanders.

Oh.

All right.

How'd that do?

So Zoe and three.

Yeah.

Huh.

That's not bad.

That's interesting.

Did you reverse Hungry Dog it?

No, I did not.

Oh, because you would have won.

It's up on the season, yeah.

It's up on the season.

You would have won if you went to the season.

It's up big on the season.

Eagles, Cowboys, and Bears.

It's up big on the season.

I wonder how much the reverse Hungry, the fat cat parlay would be

nice.

It would have been a no-powder today.

Also, shout out Kevin Bayard.

He's got four interceptions this season.

He's been awesome.

He should have had a fifth today, too.

Yeah.

There was a couple.

like, that's where Spencer Rattler, I was singing his praises.

He's not as bad as people think he is.

I was wrong.

I think he might be worse.

I actually know that I'd be right.

I disagree.

I think he's...

No, I would be right.

He looks bad today.

He's not as bad as people think he is.

He's worse.

Yeah.

No, he looks really bad.

I still think he's not as bad as people think he is.

Yeah,

today was bad.

Today was ugly.

Bad.

His worst game probably as a pro.

Do you think they're ever going to give Tyler Shuck a start?

That's what we were saying on Friday.

It's like, you haven't really heard that name.

Would you give him a start, Zach?

If I'm the Saints?

Yeah.

Throw him in there.

Yeah.

Why not?

Because

Spencer Rattler, and there was a possession where he tried to give, like, it was like four different interceptions that didn't,

that weren't intercepted.

And then the fourth was like, all right, finally, we're going to take the ball.

Yeah, today was not good for the Spencer Rattler Truthers.

No.

No.

I consider myself one of them, I guess.

I was one of them till today as well.

Yeah.

I was like, the whole time, people were asking asking me what I thought about this game.

I was like, I think he's better than you think.

Yeah.

And nah, nah.

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Okay.

Browns 31, Dolphins 6.

Bullshit.

Oh, that's 37.

Boys, that's 37.

Yeah, this is bullshit.

This is bullshit.

Well, you guys both could have taken 37 on Friday when we did the show, and you would have gotten a point.

Well, no, when I was looking, it was 36 and a half.

So I took that.

But it wasn't.

It was plus 100.

No.

That was the whole problem hank and i are like the bloods in the

draft and then pft yeah yeah we agree on we got

when i was looking at the draft kings sportsbook which is the app that we go by right yeah that's that's our sponsor i love draft kings they've got the best lines what they say is gold as far as i'm concerned when we put our picks in the line said 37 and a half and i took the under on that hank wanted over 36 and a half so hank that's what i saw that's not what you that's just not true so because hank's bad at reading the lines correct i get punished.

Correct.

I mean, you can go back to the microphone.

Don't look at me.

I don't know why you looked at me.

I'm looking at everybody.

No, Hank looked at me.

You did look at Max.

It went up as we were recording.

I don't know what

you guys could have just taken 37.

You could have agreed to it.

It's hilarious that that's.

Shout out to one AWL who had the perfect score.

He bet it 31-6.

I told you it was a key number.

37 was a key number.

The most key number.

Yeah.

The number one key number.

I was so sharp that I knew it was going to be 37.

I didn't want to take it.

Got bullied into it.

That's fine.

That's fine.

Listen, I ended up negotiating myself out of a bad, a very strong position on Thursday's show.

This was

maybe

the straw that broke the camel's back for Mike McDaniel.

Would you say that showing up to the game that will most likely get you fired as the Unabomber is probably not the best luck?

Because that's what Mike McDaniel looked like.

He had the glasses on in the rain, with the hood up.

Unabomber didn't get caught

for being such a wanted guy.

Yeah, Unabomber also a smart guy.

He was smart.

He had a lot of degrees.

I mean, McDaniel.

He's a Michigan man.

And Harvard.

Yeah, but a Michigan man.

We put him on Michigan.

McDaniel's a Yale guy.

Yeah, that's true.

But let's talk about the Browns first because then we have a lot to talk about Tua and Mike McDaniel.

The Browns,

first time in 11 weeks, they score over 17 points.

They score 31.

They had basically a perfect game plan for this weather.

They just pounded Quinchon Judkins.

Dylan Gabriel threw it 18 times.

They went and jumbo set

like constantly, just being like, hey, you see

what we're lined up in.

We're going to run the ball, and it's still going to work.

He had three touchdowns.

Their defense was phenomenal.

They turned two over three times.

They actually forced, I don't know if some of them were slippery, but there were six fumbles by the Dolphins.

They recovered five of the six.

So they only lost one fumble.

But

the Browns are built for this weather.

This is why we can't do the Kurt Warner, everyone playing a dome.

The Browns should be able to get like one win a year just based on the sideways rain, wind, bullshit.

Yeah,

the bring a poncho, bring your towel game.

That's the 12th man for the Browns is the weather.

And this was, it was ugly.

It was always going to be ugly.

And the Browns had a great game playing for it.

The defense, that works well in the shitty weather, too.

Yep.

The Browns now have won two two games in the past 329 days, which is pretty crazy.

They doubled their win total in the last 329 days.

And I had a thought when I was watching this.

This is like textbook: prisoner of the moment.

I admit, I'm being prisoner of the moment when I say this.

I like this.

But I thought about it, and I'm still in the moment, so I might still be prisoner.

Okay.

I actually think that the Browns might be in a good position for the next like

two years from now.

Two years from now, the Browns might be okay.

Maybe let me adjust that.

At the end of two years from now, things will start to look bright for the Browns.

And then I think they might be in a good spot.

Okay, so I want to agree with you.

The only question I have, as always, with these teams is who's going to be owning the team in two years?

It's still going to be Mr.

Haslam.

That's a problem.

Yep.

Yeah.

Again, I understand that the ownership is going to be the same, probably the same general manager.

Next year, Deshaun Watson, I think, has an $80 million cap hit that's about to kick in.

But the defense is fucking awesome.

And they've got a lot of young pieces on defense.

And they've got two first-round picks next year.

They have 10 total picks next year, including two first-round picks.

Two first-round picks.

Dylan Gabriel is probably not the answer at quarterback.

No.

Shadur.

But he won a game.

Probably won't.

He probably won't see the field.

Maybe they'll convince somebody to trade like a fourth-round pick for Shadur the season.

Yep.

But the defense is good enough, and they've got a good young running back, and they've got a good young tight end.

Their offensive line has some good guys.

Yeah.

They're not a great line, but they've got some good guys on the offensive line.

I like this.

And they've got...

Everyone keeps telling me I'm crazy for saying that Stefansky is a good head coach.

You have some very good head coach.

He is the Browns' head coach.

The groceries that he cooks with were purchased for him by Andrew Berry and Jimmy Haslam.

And he can only work with what he's got.

I think Stefanski is a good head coach.

He had nothing to do with Deshaun Watson.

I actually think

two years from now, the Browns could be a very good deal.

When does Deshaun Watson come off the books?

Well, I just saw, I think the $80 million is next year, and then I think they're free.

Okay.

I think they're free of him after the 80 million, which is just a crazy cap hit to take.

Listen, I want the Browns to be good.

They're like next up in the fan bases.

You know, the Lions, obviously, Dan Campbell's transformed that franchise.

The Browns need it, especially because there's like a chance that Baker wins MVP.

Yeah.

But yeah, the Browns, this was a fun day for Browns fans.

You want a true Browns football game where you just dominated on defense.

Did you guys see too, our co-worker, Ohio State?

He's a crazy, crazy sports fan.

He bought his dad a whiskey glass for Christmas called the Perfect Whiskey Glass, and it was only to be used when his high school team won, Ohio State won, and the Browns won all on the same weekend.

So he, today was the first day he could pour and use that glass.

It was the first time?

Yeah, it was awesome.

That is good.

The perfect whiskey glass.

That is good.

It's pretty funny.

There's nothing like when you hit all the stars line up over the course of a weekend and you get like a good equinox for a sad sports town.

Yeah.

Good for them.

The perfect weekend is the perfect sports weekend is quite something.

Now,

on the other end, the Dolphins, I feel like they should just start Quinn Ewers now.

So

they pulled Tua.

He had three picks.

It was also weird because afterwards, I think, what were they down when they pulled Tua?

Were they down 31-6?

It was a lot, yeah.

And Mike McDaniel afterwards was like, yeah, it was, you know,

it was much more about him and what he was doing on the football field.

I thought he gave us the best chance to win.

Talk about Quinn Euros.

You had no chance of winning that game.

You just were frustrated with watching Tua throw pick after pick after pick.

Yeah, and I'm not saying like Quinn Yours is going to give you a better chance to win over the course of this season, but like start Quinn Euros because fuck it.

Tua was 12 for 23, 100 yards, zero touchdowns, three interceptions.

It's just been.

Remember the Dolphins?

Yeah, there's the perfect class.

See it?

A drink to celebrate the perfect weekend when the high school, Buckeyes, and Browns team all win.

That's pretty cool.

That is nice.

Remember when the Dolphins was two years ago when they were nine and three and just demolishing everyone and everyone's like, this offense can't be stopped?

Yep.

It's just been doom and gloom since.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's been really rough.

And I feel for McDaniels, the fact that he has to go out there and keep addressing the media about his own firing.

He called it offensive.

He called it.

He said, the way I look at this job is I find it very offensive to all parties involved that you're asking me if I'm going to be fired.

If I'm thinking about having a job, I need to be doing my job.

As long as I'm the coach for the Miami Dolphins, they will get everything from me.

I refuse to spend my time thinking about something that you have your job, you do your job, and you do it to the best of your ability, and that's where my concern lies.

I think it's offensive to all coaches, players, and the organization if I'm spending that precious time thinking about myself.

Yeah.

I think he should spend some time.

thinking about himself.

Yeah.

I think he probably is spending some time thinking about it.

Like, what team does he want to go be an awesome offensive coordinator for next?

Yeah, he has any number of very cushy landing spots that he could take if he wanted.

He'll be a great offensive coordinator somewhere.

Which is a very cool job to have.

And he'll probably win Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator.

Honestly,

if I can be honest with you, I think I'd rather be an offensive coordinator than a head coach.

Yeah.

You just get to draw plays

and you don't have to do as much work.

You get paid a lot of money.

Game like this, you can go sit in the booth.

Yeah, you can do it.

Nobody even sees how low your pant legs go on your ankles.

You hang with the boys.

Yeah, he was wearing ring pants today.

He was wearing ring pants.

Congrats to him.

He did wear appropriate pants for the one and six record.

Is it one and six?

One and six.

Yeah, I think they're one and six.

They're just bad.

Bad, bad, bad.

Really, really bad.

That's all I got about it.

Oh, actually, I have Tyreek Hill's tweets during the game, which sum up the Dolphins perfectly.

He said,

watching your team play through a TV is hard.

That's facts.

Let's go, Finns.

Let's turn this thing around in the second half.

And then his next tweet was, also, Rashi Rice is so dangerous, Chiefs back rolling.

Love to see it.

He definitely turned off the Dolphins game to watch the Chiefs go.

Oh, yeah, he was watching this.

Without a doubt.

He was without a doubt.

He was like, I can't fucking watch this shit anymore.

There was one cool play for the Dolphins today.

I think it was Larry Broome.

Yes.

Was that a fumble or was that

a reception that he had?

Yeah, I don't know what it happened.

I think it was a fumble that bounced into his hand.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's hard to to tell sometimes with Tua if it's a fumble or a pick.

Yep.

But yeah, it just took a carrot into his hand.

Larry Borum, number 79, and he got jacked up.

I love watching offensive linemen run with the football because they don't have any of the awareness of where defenders are coming from that a receiver would have.

Credit to him for not fumbling.

Yeah, he's a bear.

He was a bear.

That's never a good sign when you have ex-bear offensive linemen playing offensive line for you.

No.

We're not exactly known for offensive linemen.

Right.

And yeah.

Also, the Dolphins were one of 13 on third down.

It was just, it's this, if you didn't watch this game, every stat

is actually not doing justice to how bad the Dolphins were.

They just could not do anything at all, whatsoever.

It's like

they didn't think to game plan for the weather.

Right.

And you just,

it was just all so, so bad.

Yeah.

So, so bad.

But credit to the Browns.

I'm happy for Browns fans.

The perfect weekend for Browns and Ohio State fans.

Okay.

Next up, Hank.

Patriots, 31.

Titans, 13.

That was a.

Were you scared at any moment?

It was a 10.

I was scared.

I mean, the Cam Ward touchdown, you know, they took a lead early, and it was like, ooh, is this not going to be, is this going to be a tight game?

It was a 10-3 game, then it was a 13-10 game, then it was 13-10 Titans, 10-3 Titans, and then it was 31-13.

And it it all happened in basically a blink of an eye because it was Drake May touchdown pass to Cam Ward with a true

fumble where it was comically bad, where he just empty hand, nothing in it, right in the shadow of his goal end zone.

He does that a lot.

Yeah.

Small hands.

Just nothing there.

But remember, when he starts playing the way he wants to play, League's going to be fucked.

Watch out.

Yep.

It did feel like, though, Hank, to start this game, you're like, oh, is this a Mike McCoy like you know, fired coach bump here?

But it lasted for maybe a quarter.

Yeah, they got a quarter out of it.

And Mike, Mike McCoy is not, just looking at him, not interim head coach material.

Yep.

They got to get an interim, interim head coach.

They got to get someone fatter.

Yeah.

He did, do you see him doing the steps before the game?

You know how Vrabel always does that?

He goes up and down the stadium steps.

He was just like walking up and down the steps.

Like, this man is not getting anybody fired off.

Yep.

Yep.

He, yeah,

the the Patriots killed him.

Drake May does not throw in completions.

It's pretty crazy.

He was 21 or so.

Yeah, 21 for 23, 91%

completion percentage.

Franchise record for a quarterback.

Franchise record, Andy's 77.1% on the season.

Pretty damn good.

Yeah.

Very good.

And that defense.

Titans didn't get a 50-yard rusher.

The Patriots still have not allowed 50 yards to a running back all season.

It's It's exciting.

What do you think?

I mean, we're on a good run.

We got a great schedule coming up.

Who do you play next?

Let's play who's lost Enway from DraftKings.

Where is that game?

Gillette.

That's probably going to be Patriots

minus 4.5.

I would have said 4.5 as well.

6.5.

What is it?

DraftKings Sportsbook, Patriots or Browns at Patriots.

It is 6.5.

6.5.

Yep.

Damn.

I'm dialed on these lines, man.

Damn.

Dialed.

Okay.

You feel good about that game?

I feel great about that game.

I feel great about this team.

I feel great.

I mean, Ryan Whitney, he texted me and said, you got to give those idiots a bunch of heat for, you know, laughing at you when you mentioned the Patriots being the best team in this podcast.

So I'm excited.

Are they?

They're not currently.

So then why would you...

Why would he laugh right now?

Because we're on the right path.

But the Bucs are here, and the Eagles are here.

Are the Patriots better than the Bucs and the Eagles right now?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Well, then you can laugh.

Then feel free to laugh.

You can laugh, but yeah, laugh.

Feel free Schedule is a joke.

You play who you play, Max.

But feel free to laugh.

Schedule is a joke.

What would you like us to do about the schedule?

So unequivocally, you're saying it better.

I remember

saying the same thing to the commanders last year.

Nope.

It's all said.

I don't remember.

Is that true?

What's up?

I'm not here.

Are you saying that last year?

I don't remember saying that last year.

Max is right.

But no, I mean, you got to play who you play, and then you get into the playoffs, and you have to play the good teams.

Eventually, you're going to have to play good teams.

Yeah.

And that's what people said about the commanders.

They made it to the NFC Championship.

Yeah.

Beat a couple good teams.

That's true.

Who's the next good team you play?

The Bucs.

They just don't.

The Bucs, not the Bucs.

That'll be a fun game.

Yeah.

It'll be a good test.

That will be.

Stephen Che will be all up in your ass.

And Zach.

And Zach.

Ooh.

Oh.

Oh.

He's so bad.

Hank's cocky.

Hank can't help it.

He's so cocky.

He can't help it.

Hank, what would disappointment look like to you this season?

uh disappointment would look like not making the playoffs you guys did lose to the raiders that's a great point yeah we did it's too bad they beat the bills because otherwise you would have been able to do that stat i know the bill the bills well you know what i'll do i'll just toss in a casual on sunday oh drake may has yet to beat a 500 or above team wait no that was a sunday night game was it i thought it was monday it was sunday

night game

Fuck.

All right.

I'll have to think of a different way to break it.

You know what?

We need the bills to go under 500.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I got to do.

The bills go under 500, then you can just keep going with that.

Do you think it's a little early to be taking victory laps on, especially the Bucs and the Eagles?

No.

As Whitney has asked you to do.

No, but it was more like you guys did laugh.

Like you guys were

ridiculous to laugh.

And now I think it's, you know, the odds are a lot better.

Yeah.

For sure.

Memes, turn on your mic.

You said it.

Week one, you said it.

Yeah, you did.

Yeah, I said.

Yeah, you did.

That's true, memes.

Good point.

You should have doubled down.

Yeah, week one, you were like, oh, yeah, we suck.

I was wrong.

I didn't say we suck, but I said we might not be.

I said might.

We'll have to run that back.

We're going to have to find that close.

Yeah, we're going to have to go.

Let's find that clue.

Because right now, we have to find that clue.

Right now, Hank's not drawing from any library of truth.

He's just saying saying what makes him sound best.

Yeah.

Listen, I'm excited about this team.

We're getting

Whitney and Gaz just texting him and just gassing him up.

Did Dave text you?

Fired up.

Dave's not.

We're back.

Just getting him fired up.

Fight say,

hold on to your heirlooms.

He's getting fired up.

Enjoy your heirlooms.

The last thing we need is Patriots fans to win another Super Bowl.

I'll be honest.

Are you thinking Soupy?

I can't do that.

Wait a second.

Are you thinking Soupy?

Why not?

Right now.

Why not?

Okay.

Why not?

We've proven we can beat the Bills.

I mean, the Chiefs, like,

going into Arrowhead and beating the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl would be.

Memes already has found this clip, by the way, of Hank.

Oh, great.

Let's play it.

It would be the

great job, memes.

I feel like I might have, you know, got a little too ahead of myself.

Might have.

This Patriots team is just not going to be.

It's not going to be there this year.

Might have.

I said might have.

Not going to be be here this year.

So we were just listening to you.

I said, might when I said there, I went the Super Bowl.

And I said, and we might not be, but that could have been wrong.

So, really, Whitney's laughing at you.

Let's listen to the rest of the clip.

Yeah.

Probably not.

Never mind.

I saw there was still 10 seconds left.

I thought maybe he was going to continue.

Yeah, I mean, it was the Raiders week one.

I don't know how else he would have reacted to that, but I was wrong.

Vrabel turned the ship around.

Players would die for him.

Vrabel was very like

the locker room videos, this one meant a lot to him.

Oh, yeah.

And

just greeting everyone outside the locker room after they win.

It's just a good time to be a New England Patriots fan.

It was, again, I know it's a long rebuild, but we're back.

Turn the ship around like a lighthouse.

Drake May does look insane.

Like, you just got to keep him not concussed.

Yes.

Because he probably was concussed.

He said he was all right.

He said he was fine.

Well, he has to now.

He came back in the game.

Is there any concern that that people like, no, I was actually really concerned.

Like a young quarterback like that, these running guys, you know, they might get hurt.

Doesn't that keep you up at night?

I feel like he's a passing guy.

I mean,

he had

62 yards rushing today, eight attempts.

I mean, this guy, he's going to be subjecting his body to a lot of hits.

But he's proven himself as a passer.

I think that you got to be careful with a guy like that.

His passer rating the last time.

I want a guy that stands in the pocket.

Are unbelievable.

Best abilities available.

I don't want these newfangled guys that just take off and try to put people in an N1 mixtape.

I want a guy that'll stand strong in the pocket.

You know, you can actually, it's actually, you can get hurt in the pocket, too.

Yeah, but no, when you're running like that,

you're open up that throwing shoulder, legs, head.

But yeah, if you can get injured anywhere.

Ribs.

You can get injured anywhere.

In the pocket, out of the pocket.

Yeah, I'm just saying, something to think about.

I get nervous when I watch Drake May run.

Well, congrats, Hank, you guys.

Drake May looks awesome.

Thank you.

And you, I guess, yeah, the Bucs is the next.

I mean, would you say it's,

are you going to be reassessing if you lose to the Browns or Falcons?

No, Falcons are a solid team.

They didn't look like one tonight.

Listen, it's the NFL.

You can lose games and still

write the ship.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

Okay.

Well, here's a team that can't write the ship.

Chiefs, 31, Raiders, 0.

The Raiders are so bad.

That was one of the worst games, I think, that's ever been played.

The Raiders, just to put it into perspective here, the Chiefs had 434 yards.

The Raiders had 95.

The Chiefs ran 77 plays.

The Raiders ran 30.

30 is an important number because the Chiefs had 30 first downs.

The Raiders had three.

Three first downs.

The Chiefs had 21 first downs in the first half.

That was as big of a beatdown as you could possibly have.

The Raiders are just dog shit.

And

fun fact, that was actually Andy Reid's first regular season shutout.

427 career games coach.

That is crazy.

Isn't that nuts?

Yeah.

So the Raiders had 25 yards rushing.

They had 70 yards passing on the day, 3.2 yards per play.

And those numbers don't even sound as bad as the game was.

And the only person that this snuck up on was Pete Carroll.

Yeah.

Because Pete Carroll said after the game,

this was a game I didn't see coming.

I think he's the only man in America who was surprised that the Chiefs are really good and the Raiders kind of stink now.

Yeah.

And we did see the inevitable benching of Geno for Kenny Pickett in this game.

Yep.

And then Kenny Pickett stepped in and I think immediately fumbled the snap.

Yeah,

very first one.

Geno went

33 plus game minutes between completions.

Yeah.

He had a completion with like three minutes left in the first quarter and his next one was with two minutes left in the third quarter.

Yeah, it was bad.

It was quite a long time that he went without a completion.

The Chiefs had the play of the week, though.

The Mahomes?

The Mahomes.

Yeah.

He was lining up.

Yep.

It was fourth and, what, two, fourth and three.

I think it was close to that.

It was like fourth and one, yeah.

So Mahomes gets under center, and then he does the fake hard count to try to get them to jump off.

The Raiders don't jump off, and then Mahomes, the mic caught him going,

this fucking never works.

Actually, let me rephrase that.

This fucking never fucking works, man.

Yeah.

And then it went back under center, and they did snap the ball and got a first down easily.

And it made Tony Romo very uncomfortable to hear those swear words.

It did.

Oh, yeah.

He's like, oh, man, he said some choice language.

But that could never fucking work.

I mean, that was awesome.

They probably shouldn't have wasted it against the Raiders.

Yeah, but they'll do it again, and it'll work again.

Yeah.

And they were just putting that on tape so the refs know to look out for it and so they'll call it correctly with the next time the chiefs try to do it.

The Chiefs are, I mean, Rashi Rice was back.

He scored two touchdowns in the first half.

They just, like, this was over so fast.

The Chiefs are so good.

We said it a couple weeks ago, they're winning the Super Bowl,

at least getting to the Super Bowl.

I stand by that.

They had eight guys with a catch, six guys over 30 yards receiving.

Can I tell you guys a parlay I'm thinking about doing that is a dark, dark thing to do, but it's also like, hey, if it's going to happen, we might as well make money for it.

Dodgers?

No.

Chiefs?

No, Dodgers are like minus 10 million to win the World Series.

No.

Can you pull it up on DraftKings right now, Max?

Ohio State to win the national championship and the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl.

I think it's like 20 to 1.

I mean,

it just feels like something that you should just...

Just do and forget about it.

Like, don't even think about it.

Just be like, you know, late January comes around and Ohio State will have won the national title, and the Chiefs will be in the AFC Championship game.

And then you can figure out, and you can be like, all right, I'll hedge now.

Why don't you add Scotty Scheffler Masters in there?

Just throw it in there.

It's 20 to 1.

It's 20 to 1.

I mean,

seems like a save.

The Chiefs are just really good, and they have everyone back now, and they're going to be really good, and their defense is awesome.

Yeah, I don't.

I mean, they're, what are they, four and three now, and they're the favorites to win the Super Bowl.

Like, that just tells you what people think of the Chiefs.

Yeah.

I kind of like the nothing ever changes parlay, though.

That's good.

Like, add the Panthers in there for NHL.

Yeah.

Because it's just,

like, if it happens, sports fans will be upset.

Yeah.

Rightfully so, but will have won money.

Yeah.

It's not a terrible idea, right?

No, I like it.

I actually like it a lot.

Yeah.

So that's the.

Panthers a little juicy.

What is that?

Panthers and Scotty Scheffler?

Panthers, Scotty Scheffler,

Chiefs, Ohio.

I might

as well throw that in there.

$100 would give you 90, would win you $95,000.

Oh, imagine how happy you'd be.

I mean, again, it's like, I don't want this to happen, but if it's going to happen, we might as well get something from it.

Right?

I've never seen a more obvious statement game than the Chiefs had today where it's like, Rashi Rice is back.

Yeah, we're going to remind people that Rashi Rice is very good.

They force it.

him to do it.

And we're going to force it to him and just have him put the league on notice.

Yeah.

What do you got for it?

Do we have the Dodgers?

Dodgers next year?

Yeah, no, they don't have just right now.

We'll just throw that in there.

That'll up it to 140,000.

Like that.

By the way,

this is never good.

When Ash and Genti after the game said, if we're being honest, it's been a losing culture around here for a long time.

He's been there for like six months.

He's sick of it.

And

he can sniff it out that it's a losing culture.

He got six carries today.

And that's not like the Raiders' game plan being dog shit, which it was, but that's just, they were playing from behind the entire time.

But six carries,

one reception.

It's just, it's bad.

It's really bad.

And they didn't have Myers.

He didn't play.

Yeah.

And

Max Trowsby went out of the game with a knee injury.

I think he's going to be okay.

They said knee and back.

Gino said

he's pointing the the thumb right at himself.

Okay.

I mean, that's...

Like, thumbs up.

Yeah, you know it's bad when your quarterback has to be like, it starts with me.

Anytime that is said in any press conference, shit's going real bad.

This is a every spot is up for grabs week for Pete Carroll.

Yeah.

Yeah, bring in a basketball team.

Bring in the aces.

Yeah.

Get a little competition going

in the practices.

You know what?

They just need to have their minds blown.

I think you've got to bring in a magician off the strip.

You think O's?

Yeah, bring in O's.

O's got to get in in there.

David Copperfield.

O's got to get in the mix.

Like,

we're going to make something disappear.

We're going to make the entire stadium disappear.

Yeah, I like that.

But yeah, it's just a completely non-competitive game

in every facet.

Every facet.

Raiders are just dog shit.

When are the Raiders going to win another game?

Well, they got the Jaguars next.

Are the Raiders on a bye now?

They must be.

Yeah.

Raiders on a bye, Jacksonville.

That's a team that when they go on a bye, you forget they exist.

Yeah.

Because I don't, who would you have starting in your fantasy team?

That would be, well, maybe Myers.

Yeah.

Bowers, but he's hurt, hurt.

That's a, you think that Raiders players actually do they leave Vegas on a bye week?

Or do they just get to enjoy Vegas?

Yeah, I think they probably just go to a pool pool party.

I think they just enjoy Vegas.

Yeah, they're going to play the Jaguars, the Broncos, the Cowboys, the Browns.

Browns defense is going to fuck them up, too.

That's a bad team.

That's a really bad team.

Bummer team.

All right.

Another bummer team.

Panthers 13, Jets 6.

Memes.

Well, Panthers aren't a bummer.

Panthers are above 500 for the first time since 2019.

Don't look up how the rest of that season went.

They were also 4-3 in 2019.

They ended 5-11.

But they're above 500.

The Meow Mix.

Curse is as real as real could be.

Since the Meow Mix boys retired their podcast, the Panthers are 3-0.

They won a game on the road.

Bryce Young did get hurt, which sucks, but their defense was all over the place today.

Yeah, yeah.

Credit to them.

And Bryce, when he got pulled, he wasn't like terrible today.

It was the best that we've seen Bryce Young on the road, maybe ever, because Bryce Young, I think, was 1-15 on the road going into today.

They shouldn't.

I know that you can't lose a job because of injury, but Chubba Hubbard, like, it's Rico Dowdrill's job.

This is Rico, yeah.

It was, they tried to to split the carries, and it wasn't even close.

Who was more effective?

Yeah, you got Rico.

Rico is the future of that team.

I have a lot of things that I want to say about the other side of the football.

Okay.

Oh, no, let's just stick with the Panthers for a second.

Yeah, yeah.

Andy Dalton.

Yep.

Andy Dalton's still out there.

Good to see him.

We got Andy Dalton and Joe Flacco the same weekend.

Good to see him.

We're not old.

Nope.

All our favorites are still in the league, which I enjoyed.

Xavier Legette had a nice scramble drill touchdown catch.

Yep.

He's got a hilarious accent.

I love rooting for that guy.

I'm running out of stuff to say as I delay talking about the Jets because I feel like memes might kill us.

Memes,

is this still hurting?

Today still managed it still managed to hurt.

That sucks.

Memes,

what

the fuck

goes through Aaron Glenn's mind in the last five minutes of halves?

Hmm.

Were you specifically talking about this?

I think you're talking about the punt.

I'm talking about two things that he did today.

Both halves today.

The end of the first half, he, again, just kind of let the clock run out.

Did not even attempt to Hail Mary.

Yeah, the end of the first half,

I was pissed about.

What?

Because he said in the media that he was going to take, he should have done the Hail Mary versus the Broncos.

Yeah.

He didn't.

He said, that's on me.

And then he just repeated the same thing this week.

He did the same thing.

It's like they didn't even want to try to score at the end of the half.

Is his fear...

I don't know.

What's his fear in that situation?

Like,

I don't want to risk getting picked off and then giving up a pick six, like 105-yard pick six at the end of the half.

To be fair, that has happened

with the Jets.

Okay.

Yes.

All right.

That happened against the Dolphins on the day after Thanksgiving.

That is fair.

Okay.

I remember that.

That's fair.

But he did say that he wasn't going to do that again.

That was a mistake that he did.

Yeah, no, he said that a week ago.

All right.

And then at the end of the game, they were down.

The Jets were losing 13-6.

They had the ball with two minutes left.

Now, granted, it was on their own, what, 12-yard line, something like that.

It was fourth and 10.

And then

fourth and 12.

Then they punted.

They punted with like two minutes left,

down seven.

I didn't necessarily disagree with that one because of how bad the offense was.

Yeah, Justin Fields got benched in this game.

Feels like that's done, right?

Yeah, that's done.

He's just a scared puppy out there.

Yeah.

Every single defense is just setting new single season records.

I've got a sad stat.

A sad stat about Justin Fields.

Good guy.

I like him as a person.

He is now 14 and 36 as a starter, and that is

the worst winning percentage in NFL history for that many starts.

He surpassed Blaine Gabbert today.

He did start on an intentional

rebuild/slash tank Bears season.

But yeah, it's bad.

I think a lot of quarterbacks have started on rebuild.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

No, it's bad.

It's bad.

It's about as bad as it can get.

It's actually even crazier that there was like a legitimate civil war on Bears' Twitter over Justin Fields or Caleb Williams at one point.

Yeah.

Which is not,

it's crazy to to think about.

And then, memes, the other thing I wanted to ask you about when it comes to the Jets defense,

are we sure Aaron Glenn was ever good at coaching defenses?

The Lions' defense last year was decimated.

That's facts.

Yeah, but,

okay.

2020,

they were 32nd in the league.

2021, they were 29th in the league.

2022, 2022, they were 32nd in the league.

2023, they were 19th in the league.

Progress.

2024, they were 22nd in the league.

Decimated.

Decimated, though.

And the 20 and 21 were...

That was still bad line.

Yeah, they rebuilt.

But I mean,

I guess what I'm saying is that most guys that end up becoming head coaches that were defensive coordinators have like elite defensive units.

Yeah, like that was a top five unit.

I don't know if he ever had it.

He never had a top 15 unit.

I'm at the point where I'm not defending him.

So I agree with you there.

He doesn't really do much for the defensive side of the ball right now.

It's all Steve Wilkes.

So the stuff he's doing as a head coach is also mind-boggling.

I just don't know where the Jets go at this point.

Yeah.

Tarad?

You could do Tarad, but the depth of the team, like Garrett Wilson went out, their number two wide receivers, Josh Reynolds.

Then they have Tyler Johnson and Alan Lazard.

Like every coach we've had on this podcast, they talk about good players.

It's all about player's play, and the Jets just don't have that.

And they're just, they have bad head coach, bad quarterback, and just bad players.

And they're just.

Blow it up.

I don't even know how you blow it up.

I think you got it.

You know what?

I'm going to say something that you don't want to do, but you're going to have to do.

You're gonna have to get back on Madden and restart as coach.

I got fired from the Browns and Titans this weekend.

What?

No,

how?

They just don't give me a chance.

How do you one year in?

One year in.

How do you keep getting jobs?

I don't know.

What are you doing that's getting you fired so quickly?

The Browns won.

They just, I had Shador playing well.

We went five, five and eleven.

Okay.

Fired.

Titans, I did the opposite approach, traded all my picks, got good players, missed playoffs by one game, fired.

Oh, no.

I think I'm rebuilding the Raiders next.

Yeah, you got to get the Jets back.

What goes through your head when the screen, when you finish the season and then it pops up like you've been fired?

Just

an odd will fuck.

That happened twice this weekend?

Twice this weekend.

What days?

Was it the same day?

No, Friday, and then hit the reset.

Saturday, played an entire season at like 11 p.m.

Wait, do you ever make it...

Do you ever get fired during the season?

No, it's always at the end.

Oh, man.

So at least you survived the season.

Survived one season, yeah.

Now, do you get to find out who they hire as a head coach after you?

You do.

So who have you been replaced by?

It's always computer-generated.

Okay,

random That actually hurts even more.

You know?

Yeah.

You know what was really weird about Aaron Glenn is

after last week, the media asked him, hey, have you thought about benching Justin Fields?

And he scolded the media for it.

And he was like, you know how this league is.

Why would you even ask me a question like that?

No, there's enough blame to go around.

I'm not putting it on this young man.

He got real indignant when it came to being even approached about Justin Fields.

And then halfway through this game, he's like, yeah, we're going to bitch him.

Yeah, we got to get get rid of this guy.

Yeah, he's just digging his own grave, really.

He scolds the media, talks down to the media, and then the media just kills him after every single bonehead decision.

Yeah, it's fine to talk shit to the media, but then you have to back it up.

Back it up a little.

A little bit.

Yeah, not asking for the world.

The only thing I will say is the defense has played a lot better.

Yeah.

That's true.

Now the offense.

That's true.

It just seems that every single week, it's a different part where you just point at where it's just like, let's come together as a team, but it's just.

Let's try to find the Jets win.

Yeah, he said Justin Fields unasked about not getting in the end zone.

He said, how do I explain it?

We didn't get in the end zone.

There's a lot.

I don't mean to be rude, but there's no explanation, to be honest with you.

That's got to suck to be asked that question.

Like,

what do you want him to say?

We suck.

Like, that's just it.

And Tarad

can move the ball a little bit.

He just can't throw it deep.

He was just under throwing everyone.

He had two guys wide open.

Yeah.

He just can't reach them.

There's a couple plays that were called in that made me think.

I was like, oh, the offensive coordinator actually is good.

It's just we don't have the guys for

the plays.

Yeah, you're right about the defense.

They're the second team in the last 10 years to allow 13 points or fewer in consecutive games and lose both games.

I would assume the Browns probably were the other team.

They might be up there, yeah.

Is Max just watching replays of

the Vikings failing to stop the tush push?

That's just the for you, page.

They did go sideways on that.

We forgot to mention that.

Yeah, that was funny.

Shout out to that.

Also, I love that it was.

Like, this isn't even a false start.

People are so broken by the tush push that they're just doing slow motion of.

This is so offensive.

So you have to be watching.

This is so offensive to memes.

That we're talking about the Jets and you're like, let's talk about the tush push.

Let's talk about all the babies.

I didn't

push all

babies out there complaining that we didn't get a tush push in a game we won.

The guy literally said, I was hoping that memes was going to answer the question of, did this hurt?

with no, nothing can hurt me anymore.

Because you've got to get to that numb part.

We've all been in bad

seasons where you're just like, I'm numb, I'm apathetic.

Who cares?

You're still not there.

No, it keeps getting lower.

I don't know how it keeps getting lower.

What would rock bottom be?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Are we not?

We're not at rock bottom yet.

We find new ways every week.

Yeah, this one felt especially because it was like

if the Panthers had killed you, you'd be like, all right, we're just really, really bad, but 13 points.

To hold them to 13 points, you're like, oh, we could win this game.

You just couldn't.

We couldn't.

And the young guys on defense are playing well.

The linebackers they drafted aren't.

They're able to stop the run.

Hasn't Sauce been pretty good?

Sauce been great.

Only got thrown at twice

today.

They play the Dolphins again.

They play the Browns.

Yeah.

Saints at Saints.

But you said you're rooting for 0-17.

It's just a tough process when you're rooting for 0-17.

Memes, you know what?

I mean, you got to circle November 13th.

You got to circle December 28th.

November 13th is going to be, I think we're streaming that in the PMT studio.

Hankstress memes.

So mean.

I mean, imagine.

Memes, if you guys win two games all year and you beat the Patriots twice, I think you'll be a happy guy.

Oh, yeah.

I'd say one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

One time.

Yeah.

It's got to be the first time, though.

No.

Doesn't matter.

No, because then you can hold that over him for a while.

If he beats you the first time, then you win the second one.

He can be like.

But if you win the second one, you can hold over him all year.

Yeah, but the second one is also.

You did that.

You literally did that to the Packers.

Yeah, but the second one, though, that's true.

But the second one is when the Patriots might not be playing anyone.

You literally did that to the Patriots.

The Packers were playing people.

But if you beat them in primetime memes, with the whole world watching,

you got to go all in for November 13th.

Rest guys up.

We're just going to get embarrassed again.

I know what you're saying.

You're trying to.

It's just, there's

I'm envisioning how that's going to go.

And it's, yeah.

Hank's smiling right now.

His head is spinning.

He's doing a dance.

He's doing a TikTok dance right now.

You can't see him.

Oh, geez.

He's still in the sixth set.

All right.

Well, memes, I, yeah.

I was hoping your answer.

Do you think maybe next week we can get to a point where it's like, it doesn't hurt anymore?

That's where you need to go.

You need to get to a point where you just turn it off.

They play the Bengals next week?

Yeah.

Bengals defense is horrible.

Yeah.

That doesn't matter.

That does not.

I'm just trying to help you.

It could get lower.

Joe Faco Revenge game.

I'm trying to help you out.

You can't be thinking that way.

What, negatively?

No, like the Bengals defense.

I'm thinking positive.

Yeah, you're like, you just saw you're getting hurt.

You thought, like, Bengals' defense, not very good.

Maybe we'll score some points.

You got to stop.

You should be able to move the ball.

You got to stop.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You got to get to get two defensive touchdowns.

They got to miss an extra point.

They got to miss a fuel goal.

Being able able to throw a forward pass is too positive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes.

No,

you think you can win the game.

So here's the thing.

Aaron Glenn comes for Parcells.

Parcels' thing is there's always a path to victory.

You got to figure out the path to victory.

Throw a forward pass.

Yeah.

Throw a forward pass.

He had 10 completions today.

Yeah, it's just, like I said, the deep ones are tough.

I want Jameis.

Yes.

I've wanted Jameis.

Yeah.

I agree.

If you're going to suck, suck in style.

Do it.

I agree.

Jameis would win you a game 100%.

Yeah.

Jameis would have won this game today.

I did like the Panthers are like,

they're four and three, and they're positive momentum, but their Twitter account's posting like it was a loss.

Did you see that?

It was just Panthers 13, Jets 6.

Yeah.

They're just kind of like, hey, we're not going to get ahead of ourselves.

I like that.

Good for them.

Four and three.

Smart.

Smart.

Enjoy.

This is an all-time week of just staring at your record for Panthers fans.

Yeah.

Four and three, baby.

And then who do the Panthers play?

They got the Bills

next.

Okay.

And then Bills off a buy, then at the Packers.

But then you got the Saints.

Okay.

Okay.

And as far as I'm any divisional game,

I could see the Panthers being competitive.

They're at home against the Bills, though.

Yeah.

And they don't lose it.

They play well at home.

Yeah, yeah.

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Okay,

afternoon games.

Hold on, let me take a swig of water.

Shout out Body Armor.

Colts, 38 Chargers, 24.

Holy shit, the Colts are awesome.

I got this game wrong.

Colts fans reminded me of that.

I was just merely, I think I even said on Friday, I'm not selling on the Colts.

I'm just trying to find a spot where I can sell on them.

But that's neither here nor there.

If you bet against a team, people get upset.

I was very wrong.

The Colts offense is,

I mean, they're perfect.

I don't really know what else to say.

Like, Daniel Jones is playing perfect football.

Alec Pierce,

Michael Pittman, Tyler Warren.

Oh, and then let's just throw Jonathan Taylor right down your throat with a three-touchdown game.

His third of the season, he has more than the entire NFL combined in terms of three-touchdown rushing games.

Their offense is electric.

They put the Chargers in an immediate hole.

The Chargers started slow.

They turned over Justin Herbert twice in the first half, and that was it.

Like, they just controlled the game.

They scored six out of the first seven possessions.

The Colts are not going anywhere.

They are as legit as legit as could be.

And Daniel Jones, if you're waiting for him to just suck, he just doesn't.

And he's now made $600,000 in bonuses because he's won six games.

Shout out to Daniel Jones.

He's surgical.

Like, when Alec Pierce is sprinting downfield, he's one of the best deep threat targets in the entire league.

He's always open.

Daniel Jones finds a way to get the ball to him.

They've just got like so many ways that they can hurt you.

If it's Jonathan Taylor, who might be the best running back in the NFL, still.

They've got a great deep threat in Alec Pierce.

They've got Tyler Warren that does everything, not just catch the ball, he runs the ball, he blocks.

They've got Michael Pittman underneath, and they've got Daniel Jones, who if nothing's open, he can run and he'll get you first down.

And they've also got Jim Merce on their side.

This feels like just...

You can stop looking for faults in the Colts.

You can stop being like, oh, look at the jersey.

Look at the logo.

They stink.

They've stunk for a while.

They They are going to be a very good, they are a good football team, and they're going to stick around for a while.

It clicked for me today

when it used to be when Daniel Jones would escape the pocket and look downfield.

You'd be like, uh-oh, this is a problem.

Now I'm just expecting him to complete a huge pass downfield.

And that's like

the way I see him now is completely different than what I used to see out of him.

And now I'm expecting good things to happen happen when Daniel Jones has to escape the pocket and throw deep.

There's certain quarterbacks where the ball leaves their hand and you're like, oh, fuck.

And Daniel Jones was that guy.

And now you're like, this is about to be awesome.

Correct.

And it's very rare that you'll see a guy make that change where he becomes a, oh, I'm excited to see where this ball goes, as opposed to, oh, no, here comes something just heartbreaking.

Yeah.

And Justin Herbert finds himself on the other side of that equation more and more recently, especially if he's like in the red zone, throwing into the end.

You just think that something bad might happen.

I'm not selling stock on Justin Herbert.

I think he's a very good quarterback, but he also gives just enough red meat to all the haters to be like, yes, I claim victory after this performance by Justin Herbert.

The red zone interception today, when it was in the first half, and it was like, okay, the Chargers can answer here.

That was a bad one.

Shout out Ronde Gadson, though.

What a game from him.

Seven catches, 164 yards.

But

they can't block for

Justin Herbert.

And

the Colts defense, by the way, played really well today.

They're banged up.

Chardavius Ward has to go on the IR, so he's going to be out for a few weeks.

I think they got Kenny Moore back, which is big in their secondary.

But they've been shuffling guys in and out, and they've been able to find ways to make big plays and turn the ball over.

That offense is just humming to a point where they can play with a lead, and they have Jonathan Taylor, and when they play from the the lead, they're just, they're going to squash you.

But yeah, Justin Herbert,

the first three games were awesome, and then it's gotten a little bit worse.

And he actually, the craziest part is, he had a career high in yards today.

Yeah, how many did he have?

421.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

So he played well at times, but every time he plays well, he does something that makes everybody be like, oh, this guy sucks.

Now, Max, you are a Justin Herbert non-believer.

I wouldn't say that.

You kind of were saying, I think you were saying in the cave, you're like, fuck this guy, whoever says he's good.

I just think that Justin Herbert is the biggest, like, what if, what if, what if quarterback of all time.

And I'm sick of hearing the what if when this guy like just shows time and time again that he he's just like a big

stupid pick guy.

He throws all these stupid picks.

Put that on a quote card.

He's a big, stupid pick guy.

You're right.

He's probably the biggest.

But it's like every year, it's like, Justin Herbert is so fucking good.

If only he had this, if only he had this, if only he had this.

And it's like, at some point,

you just got to be good.

You know what I think it is?

I think that every team, every bad team looks at Justin Herbert and they think to themselves like, I would kill for this guy.

Oh, I would kill for him.

Yeah.

And every team that's got like a very good quarterback looks at him.

They're like, what's wrong with this guy and his picks?

I remember when there was like, I think it was a made-up rumor, but it was like the Bears trade the number one pick for Justin Herbert.

I was like, yes.

Like, no offense to Caleb or whoever the Bears are going to pick, but Justin Herbert.

So I was definitely in that camp.

Yeah.

But he is a big, stupid pick guy.

He's got cut down on the stupid picks.

We have some pretty heartbreaking news that I came across.

Our guy Shane, Ring Guy Shane,

he used the hashtag, hashtag pretty close to not being bolted up anymore.

Oh, no.

That's brutal.

So loose bolts?

He's in a bad spot, I think.

Yeah.

I mean, they just got to find a way to, like,

their offensive line is just getting fucking smashed.

It was also frustrating at the end of this game because it felt like they didn't have any urgency whatsoever when they had the bolts.

Oh, it was crazy.

How long was that drive that they went on when they were down by 14?

Like nine minutes.

It was like a nine-minute drive that got to the 35-yard line.

Yeah, it was bad.

But the Colts are good.

The Colts are the best team in the AFC right now.

They might be the best team in the NFL in terms of just like, we'll see what happens with if the Bucs lose, they'll have the best record in the NFL.

So if you want to go by records, but I also want to go by just what I'm watching, and the Colts are really fucking good.

What do you think Daniel Jones has to do for him to get a lot of respect across the league?

It's happened for me.

Like I said, it clicked in my head today where I am no longer saying, oh, no, here comes Daniel Jones.

And I'm saying, oh, fuck, Daniel Jones is about to just do something sick.

Because he's just so quietly good.

Yeah.

He's like Ben Affleck in the account if there weren't any guns.

And

I thought this was the game, that

the Chargers were going to catch him.

And I was way wrong.

Way wrong.

Yeah.

I did nail the Brown scheme.

These uniforms.

Oh, my God.

Chargers uniforms, it was too much yellow.

It was entirely too much yellow on my screen.

The most unserious uniforms you could possibly have.

Yeah, at least when the Jaguars did it, they added that little bit of mustard, like spicy brown to it so it looked like baby poop.

Yep.

They just were wearing piss.

And they're getting clowned by the Colts afterwards, rightfully so.

I think they had a tweet basically comparing themselves to the Minions.

I don't know if the Chargers have watched the Minions.

Like that's like those guys do luck into a lot of awesome situations.

I'd like to hear

really dumb.

I'd like to hear Harbaugh's thoughts on the Minions.

He could probably dive deeper into that than we could.

Harbaugh had a testy press conference where he was just doing avoidance on everything.

Their defense got

gashed today.

I think Derwin James just said that.

We just got

40 pieced at home and it was,

it wasn't close.

Zach, are you a big Minions guy?

I got nothing but respect for the Minions.

Yeah.

You like Kevin?

I'm in all things Minion.

Yeah.

I like the Minions too.

They're funny.

They're fun, yeah.

Yeah, they're very funny.

But they're not an NFL team.

No,

Minion gets smoked on the field.

Yeah.

Bad.

Although they would, you know, they would, like, luck into a touchdown somehow.

Oh, like,

the Flea Flickers are hidden.

The Hail Marys are hidden for the Minions.

Yeah.

But, like, the third and ones aren't hidden for the Minions.

The opponent's dropping the ball at the gold line against the Minions.

And then they're like, oh, we'll pick this up and run it the other way.

Oh, we scored a touchdown.

We won.

We're the Minions.

You could see that happen.

It would go, yeah.

The Minions.

Memes, what were you going to say?

Are you a Minions guy?

The Minions are a great team.

Yeah, no, they are.

That's what I'm saying.

They'd win this game.

They wouldn't throw backbreaking interceptions like Justin.

They would luck into it.

The Minions would not play Smash Mouth football.

The Minions don't run the ball.

Accidentally,

they're weak against the run.

They could accidentally do anything.

They probably run the most gadget plays.

They're probably very good at gadget plays.

But not actually doing.

They would just happen.

I mean, I'm a big Minions guy, but yeah, they would accidentally win this game.

I think that's fair to say.

They would never do this.

They do do that.

Yeah, Jim Harbaugh was not.

Yeah, he was avoiding every question and did not seem like he was in a good mood.

Maybe there's a chance Jim Harbaugh maybe loves Justin Herbert too much, where he's not going to do what Max just said and say, like, hey, you're a big, stupid pick guy.

Like, let's face the facts.

Maybe that he needs to say that to him.

I think there's a decent chance that Jim Harbaugh was running scout team quarterback as the Colts quarterback this week, getting ready for it.

Because I used to play for him.

Let me just put the helmet on there.

I'll do a better job than anybody.

Yeah.

For the record, I also know no stats on Justin Herbert's picks.

No, I could be wrong.

No, you're going on vibes.

It's a good stat.

The vibes are big, stupid pick guy.

Big, stupid pick guy.

Oh,

yeah.

Jonathan Taylor has three games now with three rushing touchdowns.

He has 11 on the season.

Games with three plus rushing touchdowns,

three.

The Jets games with three touchdowns, two.

Hmm.

What are you looking at?

I'm sorry.

I didn't mean it to be, but that's a stat.

Like, that's just show.

It's more of Jonathan Taylor so good.

He's so fucking good.

And he does a thing where he does the touchdowns.

It's kind of like Saquon last year, where you're like on the 24.

You're on the opponent's 24.

You're about to be in the red zone.

You're like, all right, here we go.

This is where it gets tight.

He's like, you know what?

I'll just do it right now in one play.

He also had, I think, the coolest touchdown celebration of the week when he got in the end zone and just started skipping.

Yeah.

That was pretty cool.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, we'll see what happens with.

I feel bad for Shane.

When he's not ready to get bolted up, oh, memes, you don't like that.

You don't think I should feel bad for Shane?

No.

He's almost bolted up.

He's got a winning record.

You got a franchise quarterback.

Nut up.

You lost to a good team.

Yeah, that's true.

That's a good point.

I think it's more that they started 3-0 and they have looked bad since.

Injuries happen to everybody.

You gotta

nut up.

So we gotta stop both up, and we gotta start nutting up.

Memes just keep saying back here, he's like, you guys wouldn't last a second in my shoes.

It's probably true.

PFT's moping around about his quarterback being injured, but like, you're still, you have a franchise quarterback.

We'll get to that.

Thanks, Memes.

Yeah, we'll get to that game.

Makes me feel better.

Get to that game.

Hank, you can shut the fuck up right now with that sigh.

PFT, I think Pembika.

I think PFT lost

like

two words said for four hours this afternoon.

Yeah, it was bad.

All right, we'll get to that game.

I looked up this afternoon, and

we were 10 minutes into Sunday night football, and I had no idea the game was on because I was just sitting here staring at my computer.

Yeah, I'm usually locked on with my Sunday schedule, and I just went to a K-hole.

Yeah.

All right.

Next game, Packers, 27, Cardinals, 23.

The Packers have won a game on the road.

They looked not great doing so.

It basically was the Packers' offense is, I don't know what it is.

It's kind of still a work in progress where it looks clunky at times.

The Packers' defense arrived today.

Micah Parsons had three sacks.

Rashawn Gary had the big strip sack in the third quarter.

That's what got them back in this game.

Also, credit to Matt LaFleur, big balls of LaFleur.

I don't know if you saw the sequence where it was fourth and two at the Arizona 29 with 230 left, and they were down three.

Line up to kick a field goal, call a timeout, which was their second timeout.

So they basically were like, this is it.

We're burning the boats.

If you don't get this fourth down,

you now only have one timeout left.

The game is over.

Draws up the perfect play to Tucker Kraft,

gets a fourth down, scores a touchdown, wins a game.

That was a big balls move by Matt LaFour.

Yeah, it was.

It was like, you're going to have to sit in this if this one play doesn't work.

And on the Cardinals' side, they've now lost five games by a total of 14 points.

Their last five games.

It's pretty crazy.

I think this game might be 13 points.

Lost by one point, lost by three points, lost by one point, lost by four points, lost by four points.

That's

13.

So we got four,

four,

one, one, one.

One, three, yeah.

That's 13 points.

13 points.

And they also, every single of their last five games, have come down to the the last play.

Three of them field goals kicked against them.

Two of them, Hail Marys that did not work in the end zone.

And they've been winning or tied in all five of their losses with, I think it's under five minutes left in the fourth quarter.

Yeah.

Not only that, they've lost three straight games after leading by seven or more points entering the fourth quarter.

That's hard to do.

That was just some nice jazz, some nice sad Cardinals jazz.

Talking about how bad their losses have been.

And this one felt like they were going to, I actually thought they were going to win this one.

I did too.

They're 0-5, by the way, since

the Michael Vick

Jersey.

Yep.

0-5.

Listen, Jacoby Brissett, I don't think you can watch the Cardinals now and be like, I miss Kyler Murray.

Jacoby Brissette is just, he's better at running this offense than Kyler was.

Yeah.

It's...

I think the Packers are really good, aren't they?

They just don't look as dominant.

You don't think so, Max?

You don't think they're really good?

I mean, they're 4-101.

I don't know if they're

really good.

I think

what constitutes really good.

Top three team in the NFC?

Who would you take over them?

Let's do it real quick, right?

Would you take your Eagles?

We'll find out.

We play them in a couple weeks.

I would take right now.

Definitely the Bucs, definitely the Rams.

That's what I was going to say.

Bucs, Rams, then Packers would be how I'd would rank the top of the NFL line right this second.

They killed the Lions.

Yeah, but that was week one.

It was.

But until that, you know.

I mean, the Packers.

And the Cowboys' tie is actually not looking as bad.

No, but the Packers lost to the Browns.

They did.

They did.

That was a crazy game.

And then

they beat the Bengals by nine.

They barely beat the Cowboys.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think they've been impressive with their wins, but

the Lions was very impressive.

I guess the Commanders.

The Commanders, I mean, they did body the Commanders.

I I think they've also won all of their games.

They've scored exactly 27 points.

It's kind of weird.

That is kind of weird.

I think that they're a very good football team with an extremely good head coach, which makes them...

We have better wins than the Eagles have better wins.

I agree.

Here's my fear about the Packers.

I think they're

a

very good team that...

is like rounding into form to get even better.

Do you know what I mean?

They're going through the bullshit, like, figuring it out, and they're going to figure it out, and their offense is going to look really good at some point.

And it's going to be like, fuck.

Just starting to happen.

And Micah Parsons' three-sack game, like, it's going to start happening.

They're starting to find golden, too?

Yeah, they're not,

they're not, they're not a finished product, but they're going to, they're going to get there, and then I'm going to be like, god damn it.

I knew it was going to happen.

Yeah, they're, what's scary is they're a good team that's getting better.

Right.

And they're not, and, and, and their wins are not, like, they're, they're not blowing teams out yet.

I just, this is all fears I'm just saying out loud.

That's that's where I'm worried.

I think they're a very good team.

I'll say it.

They're a very good team.

Packers are a very good team.

I won't go very much.

The Eagles are better than the Packers, family.

Okay.

Okay.

Neutral, man.

Neutral side.

I need you to feel that way.

I mean, fucking looking at them up.

Looking at the, like, the two teams that I said that are better than the Packers, the Eagles have fucking beat.

Yep.

Yeah.

So,

what am I talking about here?

They lost to the Browns.

And the Broncos.

Are the Browns better than the Giants?

No.

Probably not.

Probably the same.

Yeah.

They're probably the same.

Yeah, they're probably the same.

But the Giants killed you.

When our entire defense was out.

True.

Good point.

Good counterpoint.

Thursday night.

Thursday night.

It doesn't count.

Yeah.

And

they were bummed about the Phillies.

Yeah, everyone was bummed about the Phillies.

But just Siri audience said that after the game, Big Dangio is a huge Phillies fan.

He would start his Monday press conference every week of what the Phillies' magic number was to clinch the playoffs.

All right, so maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself and I'm getting myself mentally prepared for the Packers rounding in a form.

I do think the Packers are very good.

I think

their offense has not looked smooth.

And I think it will eventually, once it does look smooth, then it's going to be like a watch out.

I think it's just like

you're not going to win every week in the NFL.

You're going to lose some games that you you should win.

The Packers, most of the time, they win those games and they win them decidedly.

It's not, they're always going to be a good team when they have this core and they've got Matt LaFleur as their head coach.

They're not going to just go out there and suck.

They just never will.

Who do they play next?

The tie really fucks everybody.

They're at the Steelers.

Panthers, Birds.

Sunday night football.

Birds on the 10th.

That's a Monday night football game.

Max, sorry, you're not.

No, that's November.

you're going to have to watch Monday night football?

That's an off day for you.

Yeah, that is an off day.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I thought you were asking me.

No, you're going to have to watch Monday night football.

Yeah, no,

I think I will be attending that game.

Oh, okay.

Nice.

I think I will be boots on the ground.

Love that.

Very cool.

Love that.

Oh, that's in Lambo.

Yeah, it's at Lambo.

Oh, okay.

All right.

Next game, Cowboys 44, Commanders 22.

PFT?

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

We haven't talked.

No.

No,

you were sitting here in silence, which is understandable.

Yeah.

Did anyone talk to him after the game?

I think we all avoided any conversation.

I gave him some nachos.

You did.

The nachos were actually great.

That was the best part of my night.

Thank you, Max.

All right, so let's talk.

Yeah,

I'm in a bad mental state right now.

I'm feeling bad.

I'm feeling like last season was a mirage

and nothing ever good is going to happen to the Commanders franchise ever because nothing good ever has happened to them with the exception of last year, which was awesome.

And I should have known that the universe would just circle back on me and that nothing good.

We're never going to have a successful team ever again.

We made the NFC championship game.

That was very cool.

I enjoyed every second of it.

Now all of our players are hurt.

We are starting wide receivers today.

Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one.

Not Luke?

AK.

Whoa, don't disrespect Luke.

Luke played his heart out out there.

Luke left his guts on the field.

Great job with the return game today.

Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one.

We had rookie Jalen Lane.

We had Chris Moore, who's a journeyman.

The offense sucked.

It didn't look like football.

Our defense was worse.

Our defense couldn't stop anything today.

We just won't be able to stop anything.

The Cowboys just had their way with us.

Jaden Daniels got hurt.

And for a second,

I thought it was Dunzo.

I thought ACL.

This is what I've prepared myself for mentally.

Every time he gets hit, I think something bad is going to happen.

Something bad did happen to him.

I think it's just the hamstring.

He might be okay.

I don't know how long he's going to be out.

Marcus Mariota came in and gave a thumbs up.

And he gave a thumbs up.

And I have tickets to Arrowhead Stadium next weekend for Monday Night Football, where now I guess I'm going to go watch Robbie Chosen and Marcus Mariota get their shit pushed in by Patrick Mahomes.

Whoa.

Marcus Mariota, didn't he win a playoff game in Arrowhead?

Remember when he passed to himself?

Yeah, I remember that.

Yeah, so he's got experience.

There you go.

He's got experience.

Come on.

It was bad.

The offense looked completely disjointed.

But most importantly, here's the problem.

Our defense is bad, and we have a lot of old slow players that play out there for us.

And having Jaden have so much success as a rookie quarterback, that kind of got rid of the rebuilding plan that we had.

Because you got to go all in if you have a good team.

So Adam Peters was like, fuck it, let's just go all in.

We'll trade away some draft picks.

We'll try to get some weapons.

Let's try to win right now.

Let's get Lattimore at cornerback.

And in reality,

Jaden just covered up for a lot of bad stuff about the team last year.

Yeah.

Which I said going into even like the end of the season, I don't think that we're a very good team.

We're just pretty good.

And then Jaden is just able to make stuff happen on his own.

We're deep, deep.

We should be deep in rebuild, but we're not.

And that is a problem.

That's going to be a problem moving forward, I think.

It was bad.

You saw the game.

Yeah.

There's not a lot to be had.

I'm starting starting to just think that everything that ever good happened last season is just, it was nice.

Hey, I had the time of my life.

2024, what a magical run that was.

I was so happy.

I was a happy boy.

And then reality set in.

And then Jaden started to get banged up.

And then I realized the same as it ever was.

Yeah.

And

that's where I'm at right now.

What's the,

I mean, the Jaden injury sucks.

Yeah.

And he's, this is the second one this year where he's been banged up and he's going to have to miss time, which sucks.

Where are you at?

Like, I mean, he's got to, I guess we got to find out what it is.

I think it's a hamstring.

Okay.

So just wait till he's all the way healthy.

Don't risk it.

Right?

But he's going to want to play.

Yeah, right.

But

if it's a hamstring, I don't know.

I don't know what's going to happen.

I'm just, I'm, this Monday night

against the Chiefs is just going, it's going to be the saddest trip that I'll ever go on.

Yeah.

Like, I'm planning, I'm going to have to plan my flight, my hotel room.

Wait, you haven't bought any of this?

Well, I do, but I got to, you know, I got to go through the whole thing of getting ready to travel on the road, go to the airport,

pay money for an Uber to take me to the airport, fly on a small-ish plane, a regional plane into Kansas City, go to a tailgate, endure people being like, hey, we're about to kick your ass today, then sit in my seat for an hour, getting my ass kicked, and then go back, probably pretty drunk, to my hotel, and then go to sleep, wake up early in the morning on Tuesday, fly back, walk through the airport in Kansas City after just getting my ass kicked,

land in Chicago, and then get into a cab, driving directly into the office where I will then have to talk on part of my take

about how I just got my ass kicked last night.

That's what I'm looking at right now.

Okay, whose line is it, anyway?

Well,

here's a positive spinzoni.

It sounds like you might not have bought the flight.

Just don't go.

No, I did buy the flight.

Are you sure?

I got the flight.

Yeah.

You got the hotel?

I got the hotel.

You sure?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yep.

Got all that.

I bought the best seats I could possibly find.

Shout out Game Time.

Shout out Game Time.

I used Game Time and I was like, you know what?

This is going to be a torch passing game.

Mahomes.

He might play.

He gave a thumbs up to his mom.

He did.

Also, shout out to his mom.

His mom wants people to stop saying RG3.

You're manifesting that.

Just stop saying that.

His mom said that.

There's a difference.

There's a difference.

She tweeted,

I wish you would stop manifesting RG3 on my son.

Words are powerful, and that's all that's talked about.

Yep.

I agree with Miss Jackson.

The replies are.

I also feel like she should maybe just not have a Twitter.

It's not pretty.

She should not be.

It's not a pretty scene in the middle.

She's in a lot of stuff.

Did you see she got to catch up with Tom Brady before the game?

No, I didn't see that.

Beautiful moment.

in a lot of money.

Nice, warm hug.

They caught up.

Yeah.

That's good.

That's good that they caught up.

Nice warming.

Mike Florio said early indications are the commanders QB Jaden Daniels' injury is nothing serious.

Okay, that's good.

That's good.

I mean, even if he does play next week, I don't know how he can win a football game with those receivers.

How did he look before he got injured?

He actually didn't look bad.

The fumble that he had when he got injured, that was a bad play.

He was throwing the ball pretty well.

I think they had three or four drops when the commanders also lead the league in drops now, which is not helping things.

No.

But I don't think he looked bad.

He was running pretty effectively.

He was pretty accurate.

It was just mostly like the game started.

The Cowboys scored right off the bat.

And we were just playing catch up the game.

The Cowboys' offense is awesome.

It's very, very good.

CeeDee Lamb is back.

He had 110 yards and a touchdown just in the first half.

Jake Ferguson is awesome.

I mean, we know George Pickens, Javante Williams.

They're just loaded on offense.

They're a fun team to watch.

How much blame do we put on Jerry O'Connell?

I mean, a significant amount, obviously.

He released a video, if you want to play it,

because he did say in the fantasy preview that Jaden Daniels was going to break all the records and was going to have an out of this world year.

Can you find that, Max?

The video he just put out?

He said he's already moving off.

He also did a Valley Girl accent just out of nowhere, nowhere, but not as a bit.

I think he's hanging out with his daughters too much.

And Kelly Safford.

Yeah.

We're done with Jaden.

We hope he's okay, but I want to apologize to all the AWLs for saying in my fantasy preview back at Camp Barstool that

Jaden was going to break all records.

And

this is going to be a big season for him.

It's just not happening.

We have Dart on the bench and the Giants are the future of the NFC East.

What time was this recording?

The first quarter.

He gave the thumbs up to mom, to mommy there, but

we're moving on, PFT.

We're moving on.

He just broke up with you.

Well, no, he's saying that because Jaden's hurt, obviously.

So he's not going to start Jaden next week.

But he's going to come crawling back to Jaden the second he has a good game.

I'm trying to figure out.

When does Terry come back?

I don't know.

I see, I don't.

Noah Brown.

I don't think Noah Brown lives in the state of Virginia anymore.

He hasn't been around.

Terry, obviously, being hurt, sucks.

Debo was very clearly hurt in Monday Night Football.

I don't know.

We just don't have anybody to throw the ball to outside of Zach Ertz.

Luke.

Luke,

they didn't look at Luke today.

And Luke was out there just fighting his dick off for you.

Couldn't get even a sniff.

It's, yeah,

mentally

a puddle.

I just melted into a puddle today when Jaden got hurt because you do go back and you flash back and you think if your team's never been good, you think, oh, nothing ever good is going to happen to us again.

I still completely believe in Jaden long term.

I don't think that the RG3 comparisons are accurate at all because Jaden, his rookie year, was way better than RG3 was his rookie year.

RG3 had like six good weeks.

He was injured for a little bit.

What Jaden did his rookie year, and what I've seen out of him, he's still a very, very good quarterback.

There's a lot that's going wrong around him, and also the injuries suck that he has to deal with right now.

But I agree with Mitch Jackson.

I stand with Mitch Jackson.

Miss Jackson, I got your back.

Always.

Yeah.

Max, anything as an NFC's foe?

I don't have much to say.

I don't like to see my friend upset.

I don't like this.

I don't like the vibes.

I want you guys to be.

Ask me a question.

I answer the question.

I want you guys to be antagonistic.

I want to get mad at somebody.

I don't know if you're not.

The Commanders in the Hungry Dog.

You're making me mad about the people.

I was

like, Commanders.

Yeah, no, clearly.

That was a huge mistake, but I really believed in them.

You put the Cowboys in the Hungry Dog until the line flipped, and then the Commanders became the favorite or the underdog.

So you switched them.

Meme said he wants to get you mad.

Get me mad.

Because, like,

yes,

I've been sad.

Go ahead, Meme.

I would rather be mad than sad.

He has been sad.

Like, he's been...

I walked in here, I don't know, like 6 o'clock, and he was just sitting by himself, just not talking.

I looked at Tankathon today.

Oh,

God.

I looked at Tankathon.

I know.

I just did.

You said you don't care about the Patriots.

You only care about me, but is the fact that

Jaden came before Drake May.

Have you thought about that at all?

Has that even crossed your mind?

Good thought, man.

The thought that I have is that a million times out of a million, I would take Jaden over Drake May.

A million times.

Okay, good to know.

Yeah, a million times.

What about staying on the field?

It would be a positive step if he could.

Memes, go ahead.

You want to get him mad?

No, I'm just, he's just stealing my whole flow.

So get him mad.

Memes is a sad guy.

You got a new owner.

You got a new quarterback.

Yeah.

Listen, I love.

Get your own thing.

Yeah.

I love having.

Get him mad.

I love Dan Snyder.

Here's some good.

Dan Snyder's yacht ran out of batteries and went adrift out in the Atlantic Ocean last week.

That's fucking awesome.

That is awesome.

Yeah.

He had to get towed in by a little puny tugboat.

Loser.

Yachi's batteries?

Or his engine or whatever.

You remember that one that

the one that ran into the bridge?

That's what happened to Dan Snyder out in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

Got it.

Yeah.

So that kicked ass.

No, you're right, memes.

I have a lot to be thankful for.

Get him mad.

That's all I had.

No, but I'd rather be mad than sad.

I don't like that you guys are like, oh, is he okay?

I'll be okay.

Max, you're sad after above Jalen Hurts.

Yes.

All offseason.

I mean, that's fine.

He's backing his own guy.

Yeah, no, I know.

But you could.

I don't know.

I don't know.

The Commanders don't look very good right now.

They're not good.

They don't look good.

Their defense is old.

Are you worried that the Bears season completely collapsed after they lost to the Commanders last year?

And that

this year that might happen after the Commanders lost to the Bears.

I too read Twitter replies, Hank.

Oh, here we go.

Here we go.

Here we go.

I'm not.

No, I'm not.

I'm not concerned about that at all.

I don't think that there's a weird voodoo curse that's going on between a game between the Commanders and the Bears that happens every year.

But it is now looking.

It's one loss.

We lost the Cowboys.

We're probably going to lose to the Chiefs.

We lost the Chiefs.

And then we got the Seahawks, and so we got the Lions, and then we get to go to Madrid.

I might,

then we get the Dolphins in Madrid.

It's a very hard schedule, and our team's bad.

Did you read the Twitter replies to Miss Jackson since you read Twitter replies?

No, I didn't.

Out of respect to Ms.

Jackson.

I thought you read Twitter replies.

Out of respect to Miss Jackson, I don't think that we should.

You have an intimate relationship with him, which is really weird.

We can say whatever we want about your boyfriend.

He loves his mom.

What can I say?

I'm reading the Twitter replies.

I read Twitter replies.

Well, you already read those.

Hmm?

You already read those.

What do you mean?

Why are you rereading them?

Well, you said you read Twitter replies, so I'm just reading some to you.

I think that Miss Jackson is a great mom who's got nothing but the best interest for her son, Jaden, and

sometimes maybe people get the best of her and provoke her online.

Your son is injury-prone.

Tell his skinny ass, get his weight up.

Thoughts.

He's got a skinny ass.

Like that, actually, like if Jaden came, if he just, you know what he needs to do?

Spend the offseason, just add like 30 pounds of anything.

I also don't think he's injury prone.

We're not there yet.

Yeah.

We're not there yet.

We're not there yet.

We're not there yet.

He broke a rib last year.

Oh, Max, you disagree.

I'm looking at your face.

I mean, it's.

I think one.

You can only be judged off of your.

Okay.

He's got a sprained knee this year, and then he pulled his hamstring.

Correct.

Yeah.

Injury prone.

We don't know if he's going to miss any time, though, with a hamstring.

It's true.

If he misses time,

injury prone.

That's three injuries now in two years that have caused him to miss time,

injury prone.

I mean, he can,

I guess, change the narrative,

but right now, the narrative would be injury prone.

I would like to see his ass get a little thicker.

There's one way to realize how injury-prone Jaden Daniels is, and that's you watching him run the football.

What do you mean?

That every time he runs the football, you're just like,

I did that before he got healthy.

I'm going to be healthy.

I did that

week one.

Also, Dak Prescott needs to buckle his chin strap tighter.

He's getting calls for face masks just because his helmet's flying off.

That's on you, Dak.

Yeah, fuck Dak.

Did you see RG3's tweet about this game?

I did not.

That did not come across my desk.

I'll send it to you guys.

Why'd you just say it?

It's a podcast.

Well, it was a picture, so it's tough to to say a picture but it's a hilarious meme yeah it's a good meme does it involve a croissant it does not you want me to pull it up

yeah pull it up

to your football fans this is

he loves to do the safe space oh it's a picture of him him reacting to the cowboys score score all right are the cowboys wouldn't you want one a quarterback from your old like

would you want him supporting the commanders Uh, your

golden boy Tom Brady left your team, and when he would never

post a meme with a shocked face if the Patriots got blown out

of division rival, hypothetically, if you had like an all-time legendary coach, you would hope that he did not leave and then completely forbid his new team on posting anything about your old team,

allegedly, yeah.

Yeah,

uh, PFT, I think everything's going to be just fine.

Jaden Daniels is going to be fine.

And

Debo and Terry are going to come back.

And then you guys, you know what?

Here's what I think is going to happen.

I think you guys are going to be the team.

I think you're going to be the team that,

like, maybe

people will bury you in the next two weeks.

Probably three.

Three.

And then you'll be like, uh-oh, watch out.

Here come the Commanders.

Yeah, I mean, that could very well happen.

It honestly honestly could become a problem for america right like because we've got monday night football against the chiefs i think the seahawks is a primetime game too yep uh the madrid game yep like there

there's going to be a lot but i can see you guys being the oh watch out here come the commanders kind of team you know like where it's like oh yeah we forgot because jaden daniels got hurt and they lost a couple games i'd rather we might get healthy at the right time yeah that type that type of situation things were so good when we beat the chargers just a couple weeks ago scored 27 points.

We used the Packers formula.

It is true.

The whole rebuild comment is true that Jaden Daniels was, if you can fault him with anything, he was maybe too good year one.

Yeah.

Because it's like

you went all in on an old defense.

You're going to have to just get younger on defense.

We need probably two new linebackers.

We need a new safety.

We need a new cornerback.

We need...

tight end to step up.

I don't know why they don't throw the ball to Ben Sennett.

We need a lot of help.

We need another receiver.

There's a lot of stuff that's going wrong right now.

And

yeah, it was a bad day.

I got a question that's not Commander.

I'm sorry, PFT, this day did suck for you

pretty bad.

I felt bad.

I thought it was ACL for a second.

I was about to just...

I almost left.

I almost pulled a meme and just went home for a little bit.

Yeah.

Collect my thoughts.

Also, you did a great job up until this point of not being sad.

I'm more angry now, which is good.

All right, good.

Yeah.

Hank, feel something.

Hank did a great job.

Yeah, thank you.

There you go, Hank.

That's a good friend.

I got you.

I got a question for the class.

Are the Cowboys,

like, they're not bad.

Their offense is very good.

I don't know.

CeeDee's back.

What?

CD's back?

Like,

their defense is bad, but there's something...

Cowboys, I don't know.

There's just something about it.

It's like they're going to be in every game.

Yeah, Dak is playing as good as he ever has.

And when he's got those two guys, it feels like there's not a lot that can stop him.

Yeah.

You can maybe take away CD or Pickens.

I was almost right about the Pickens ejection, too.

Lattimore got in his face a little bit, and they wanted to fight.

Yeah.

Got broken up.

Oh, I got this for

Cowboys fans.

You're playing the Broncos next week.

That's a gateway game right there.

I gave you the Bears gateway game when it was against the Cowboys.

If the Cowboys can beat the Broncos, they would then be, what, 4-3-1?

And they have very winnable games against the Cardinals and the Raiders coming up.

That could be a very quick, if they can somehow beat the Broncos next week, we could look up, and the Cowboys could be 6-3-1

going into a huge game against the Eagles.

Yeah, I think that this season has now become - I don't think that the Commanders are going to make the playoffs anymore.

I don't see that coming close to happening in the schedule and how we're going to.

But I do see the possibility of the Cowboys getting good enough for the Cowboys fans to believe in themselves to then get hurt by the end of the season.

There you go.

So, yeah, we're rooting for the Cowboys against the Broncos to get the 6-3-1.

Yeah.

Okay.

Last game.

Broncos.

Broncos 33, Giants 32.

That was an insane game.

What happened?

Insane game.

The Broncos were dead.

The Giants had them completely dead.

And then the Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to win the game in the fourth quarter.

NFL teams have won 1,602 straight games when leading by 18-plus points in the final six minutes.

The Giants blew that one.

The Broncos,

it was insane.

It was just absolutely insane.

They're the first team in the NFL history to score 33 points in a fourth quarter after being shut out in the first three quarters.

I can't imagine the sample size is that big for that, but still.

That's how crazy it was.

They broke NFL history.

Bo Nix basically sucked for the first three quarters.

They couldn't do anything.

And then he's like, hey, wait a second, I'm Bo Nicks with a little assist from Jackson Dart in a terrible interception.

It was an incredible game.

I mean, like, what a game.

What an insane game.

This was a Tim Tebow game.

Yeah.

It was a carbon copy of Teebo Mania.

But it should have been Jackson Dart that got the Tebow Mania.

Bo Mania.

It was crazy at the end.

Like, it felt like the game slowed down for Bo Nicks.

He was running.

He was scrambling effectively.

He was finding open guys.

It was just a completely different looking team in the last three minutes of their offense than it was for the previous entire game.

And the Giants,

they blew this game.

They blew it.

Jackson Dart can't throw that pick.

Also, Brian Dable, you went conservative.

That drive where he threw the pick was run up the middle, run up the middle.

And then Jackson Dart get us a first down.

He threw a bad pick that flipped everything.

And then at the end of the game, when they go down the field, they got maybe a questionable pass interference call to get on the one to score.

They got two questionable calls.

Two questionable calls.

The pass interference and the roughing the passer.

And the roughing the passer.

You're right.

Yep.

And they score.

Their kicker, who's their backup kicker, Graham Gunneau, I think is still hurt,

missed his second extra point of the day, so it makes it a two-point game.

And then they

didn't rush Bo Nix at the end.

Bo Nix, I think they dropped eight.

He was able to find big chunk play.

They had 33 seconds left.

There was some also freaky numerology going on because

they did a statue for Demarius Thomas.

He passed away when he was 33.

They scored 33 points in the fourth quarter.

They got the ball back with 33 seconds.

The start of the

comeback was the Broncos scoring a touchdown and a two-point conversion, which is eight.

Then another touchdown and two-point conversion, which is eight, 88.

It's Demarius Thomas's number.

So there was some cool stuff there and a crazy, crazy game.

The Broncos are good.

The Broncos got to stop fucking around because they did this with the Eagles, too, where

they were down all game and then they just woke up at the end.

That feels like they're playing with fire, but who cares?

They're 5-2.

Yeah,

here's the drive chart for the Broncos in their first three quarters.

Punt, punt, punt, punt, downs, end of half, punt, punt.

That takes you to the end of the third quarter.

They couldn't do anything.

Here's the fourth quarter.

touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal.

Yeah.

Crazy, crazy into this game.

Credit to Sean Payton.

Sean Payton got a penalty called out him after that pass interference was bullshit.

Yep.

That was a great penalty that because he was essentially telling the refs, like, you owe me so much right now.

I'm willing.

Who cares if you go half the distance of the goal from the one-yard line right now?

Nobody cares about that.

Nobody even tried to hold Sean Payton back.

That was some bullshit that they had to fight through and overcome.

But the Broncos, they just turned into a different team.

It was a Tebow, as close as you'll get to a Tim Tebow game, ironically, on Demarius Thomas Day.

Yeah,

it was just an absolute wild scene.

Yeah, Bo Nix was just,

he remembered, oh, yeah, I'm Bo Nix.

I could start winning this game.

He had four touchdowns in the two passing, two running, in the fourth quarter alone, 174 yards.

I don't know what to make of the Broncos.

They are a good team,

but they have stretches where it's like, what is going on?

Why do they look so bad?

And

like that first three quarters looked like the London game against...

Like, if you look at the Broncos' last three games, they have played like maybe two good quarters, but they're 3-0 in them.

So

it's a wild team to watch week to week and be like, when are they going to turn on?

When are they going to wake up?

Their defense, I think that's really what it comes down to, is their defense keep, I know their defense gave up 32 points today.

There was that weird

tipped ball to the tight end.

Their defense does keep them in games so that they can have these type of games.

And they are a good team, but they are also just playing with fire every single week.

They are.

The reason why I still think the Broncos are a legit team is because the two losses that they have, you could say, were equally as freaky as some of the wins.

Yeah.

So they've been on the wrong.

They've already had, you know, they've been on the wrong side side of that same coin a couple times.

Yeah, they're going to play every game this week.

They're going to keep playing close games

and hope that the defense in Sean Payton is going to be enough to put Bo in a position where he could do something crazy to either win or lose by a narrow margin.

But I think the Broncos are for real.

I think they're going to stick around.

Think about this game,

the Broncos season.

Besides the Bengals Monday night game, Jake Browning, when they could not move the ball and they absolutely killed the Bengals.

Every single game that they've played besides that game,

it was like a true coin flip.

Even the Titans, week one, remember that game?

Yeah.

Like the Titans, if they didn't just completely implode, they only lost by eight.

The Titans were up, I think, at the end, or they were like, it's a one-point game in the fourth quarter.

The Broncos just played the ultimate coin flip games, and it's just which side is the coin going to flip to today.

Yeah.

So they're a fun team.

Very fun team to watch

and just very chaotic.

Yeah, if you're doing the chart of like chaotic, bad, chaotic, neutral, they're, I think, chaotic, good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I couldn't believe that game.

It was fucking nuts.

Were you guys?

I mean, I think I'm a bow believer, but there's also.

A Bow Believer?

Yeah, he's a

there's like you know three three quarters today where he looked terrible.

Yeah, this is why

you got to work hard to believe.

It's crazy.

I am.

I consider myself a believer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm doing mix on it.

I believe in the in the broncos but i just i i'm also very

scared of them if that makes sense yeah

in like not i'm scared of how good they are i'm scared of like what they could do to themselves

like they're you don't know if they got the gun pointed at their own head or at someone else max were you rooting were you rooting for the giants to beat the broncos as retribution or were you rooting for the NFC East to lose?

I was rooting for the NFC East to lose for sure.

Okay.

Yeah.

Without question.

Oh, yeah.

Because the Giants beat you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have to.

Have to.

I don't.

Yeah.

The Broncos are crazy.

They're fucking crazy, man.

They are crazy.

They're just like.

They're wild rushes.

They're messy bitches.

You would say that.

The Broncos are the messiest bitches we got in the NFL.

But they're fun.

They're so fun.

They're fun.

They'll remember.

They'll fuck you crazy and then they'll...

They'll freak out about a text message and get in a fight with you at a bar for the entire night and ruin your entire night.

Yep, you'll leave them, and then 20 years later, you'll think back about this Broncos team and you'll smile because they rocked your world.

They'll give you the best time of your life and they'll be like, were you fucking looking at her?

What the fuck?

Yep.

And then just ruin the whole vacation.

You're never going to tell your future team that you one time, one year, had a fling with this Broncos team.

Yeah.

You're going to leave that off your body count.

You'll be at a hotel getting your key card and say thank you to the the woman behind the desk, and they'll be like,

you fucking wanted to hook up with her.

Yeah.

And that would be it.

That would be the whole weekend.

We'll be gone.

That's the Broncos.

They're fun.

They're so fun.

Messy as all hell, though.

Bad drunks.

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My roback question is: is this the best coaching job Kyle Shanahan has ever done?

The Niners beat the Falcons, what was the final score?

20 to 10?

And everyone's injured still, although they're getting some guys back.

Kittle came back.

Mac Jones is still their quarterback.

Is this the best job?

I don't know.

He got Jimmy Garoppolo to a Super Bowl.

Okay.

All right.

We're just going to throw it out there.

But I know it's crazy how

this basically is a reverse where last year the Niners had the season from hell.

They got everyone injured.

The season just went to shit.

This year, guess what?

Everyone got injured again.

But they're 5-2.

Because they still have Christian McCaffrey.

They have Christian McCaffrey.

He was awesome tonight.

Were those their two first touchdowns by a running back this season?

Or did Christian get one running last week?

I think he got one last week, yeah.

Yeah, but

they're using them, and they know that they're hurt.

But as long as they still have that guy and Trenton Williams leading the way for them, they'll be okay.

Tonight was also National Running Back Day.

Oh.

Did you know that?

No.

They waited until like the fourth quarter and then they said, yeah, it's National Running Back Day.

That's extremely disrespectful to running backs to wait to announce that till the very, very end.

Yeah, I didn't know we had a National Running Back Day.

It feels like, yeah, this is.

Running backs have gone through enough recently with their contracts, the Zoom call that they jumped on, and they were like, yeah, this sucks to be running back.

You could have given us at least a couple days' heads up that it was national running back aware to stay.

Yeah, I think for so the Niners are good, and like that

Mac Jones is playing well.

Christian McCaffrey, they're going to get healthier.

The fact they're 5-2 and holding this all together, it's impressive.

I think I'm just on a strict, maybe someone can remind this, I'm on a strict every other game with the Falcons.

So, I'm just going to, if they have a big win, you have to go against them the next game.

When they lose,

you go on them the next game.

I'm going to switch back and forth with the Falcons for the rest of the season.

I think that's a pretty fair thing to do.

That means that next week, though, you've got to be back on them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're playing the Dolphins.

They're going to kill the Dolphins.

They should have been off.

They're going to murder the Dolphins.

And then at the Patriots, that's a loss.

That's a loss.

But then, guess what?

They're playing home against the Colts in a primetime game.

That's going to be a shock to the world.

Wow, the Falcons are really good.

That might be the Colts' second lost of the season.

Holy shit.

look at the falcons yeah i could see that that just doesn't it feel like the falcons are just destined to be that team where it's like if they have a big win just expect them to fall flat on their face the next week because it's just not like this was not a good game for them and michael pennix did not look comfortable kyle pitts did look good uh so that's a plus but i just the until the falcons can string a few together i'm i'm not going to be in the trust them category yeah the way that the niners use mccaffrey tonight that's exactly how the falcons should be using bajan every single week.

Just that, that was the game script right there.

Just feed them a steady diet of Bajan and hope that things work out.

Put the ball in the hands of the guy who's the best player in the world with the ball in his hands.

Yeah, facts.

Yeah, they've won.

They lost their first game, won their second game because

they lost to the Bucs.

It was like, oh, same old Falcons, even though it was a close game.

Then they dominated the Vikings on national television that Sunday night game.

Then they got dominated by the Panthers.

Then they beat the commanders.

That was with Mariota, though.

I think they had a bye week.

Then they came back and won, obviously, against the Bills last week.

And everyone was like, I, myself included, was like, I think the Falcons are for real.

And then they fall on their face in primetime against the Niners.

Well, you know what?

As bad as the Falcons looked at times, they're not that far away, even in the ugly game.

No.

They had two fourth downs.

Well, the Panthers game was bad.

Yeah, but in this game, I mean, like,

they had two fourth downs.

They got stopped on.

Probably made the difference in in the game they had a terrible offensive script and game plan uh and you only lost by 10 yeah it just felt like they never had a good flow except for i think they had one drive it was that drive in the third quarter when they came out i guess that hank they are the third quarter falcons that that third quarter drive looked good every other drive just didn't look like they it would just a lot of third and longs and a lot of like you know dumb penalties that would put them back so yeah that's i think that's my strategy for the falcons yeah

not the worst loss that you could have had.

It sucked.

If you're a Falcons fan, this is one that you were like, okay, if we win this, then people have to respect us.

I don't think people have to respect the Falcons right now.

That was my fault.

I already respected him.

You already respect him too fast.

I went too fast on respecting him.

Should we talk a little baseball real quick?

Because Friday night, Shohei Otani submitted the greatest game a baseball player has ever played.

I think that's, I know that we live in a day and age where people will say whatever recently happened is the greatest thing ever, and we live in a day and age where hyperbole is king.

I feel very comfortable saying that Shohei Otani hitting three home runs, pitching six shutout innings with 10 Ks in an elimination game was the greatest single game performance I've ever seen a baseball player play.

Yeah, I think so.

It's insane.

It's basically the plot line of that movie, The Natural, where what's his name, found Brendan Fraser and was like, this guy just broke baseball.

Except this was real real life and Otani you can't make an argument against that you can't like it's he had the perfect it's like doing two perfect games yeah on either side of it and it might be the best game an athlete has ever played I Max you're you're a baseball guy that was I mean it is that was the best game I've ever watched anyone trying to say anything otherwise is like yeah an idiot because you could you could point out like someone pitching a perfect game or someone hitting four home runs but they didn't do both and I obviously didn't pitch a perfect game but but he hooked two hits, 10Ks in six innings pitched, and hit three bombs.

Absolute nukes.

Absolutely fucked on.

Pissed on him.

Those balls were destroyed.

He fucking bent those over and fucked them.

That's what he did to those.

I think it was the best game in the history of sports.

It might have been.

But name a different athlete.

Doesn't matter what sport.

I mean, you can.

I don't know.

I don't think you can.

Like, I'm thinking about what.

I have a question.

Yeah.

Hank.

Travis Hunter.

Do you take that back?

Do you take that back?

Yeah.

He's trying to remember what he said.

No, I know what I said.

No, I know what I said.

I'm trying to think of.

Remind the listeners what you said.

I just said, you know,

what Travis Hunter is doing might be more impressive than Shohei.

As of right now,

that was wrong.

Yeah.

I think for some Hunter, big of you to say that if he makes a Super Bowl and, you know, maybe gets two interceptions and two picks, you might have to revisit.

Two interceptions and two picks.

I mean, two interceptions and two touchdowns.

I think it would have to be better than that.

I think for Travis Hunter to have the football equivalent of this game, I think he would have to have...

Oh, what about a pick six?

He would have to have

two pick sixes

and three

receiving touchdowns and

200 yards receiving.

There's nothing he could do.

Maybe even three picks.

Three pick sixes, three receiving touchdowns.

Yeah, no, yeah.

Shoe is, I mean, it's unbelievable what he did.

In fact, Shoei Otani is so good,

I think it's insulting to him if we don't ask if he's doing steroids.

That's how good that game was.

Like, he is so much better than everybody else on the field.

At two positions,

we have to be like, this guy has to be cheating.

Baseball's been played for 120 years, whatever the fuck,

however far back you want to go.

They've been playing it forever.

There have been 12 times in the history of baseball that a player has hit three home runs in a playoff game.

Shohi Otani also pitched six scoreless innings with 10 strikeouts.

It's fucking unfathomable.

He was hitting like 120 going into this game, and he won NLCS MVP, and everyone was like, Yeah,

yeah, yeah, you got to give it to me because of that.

He was dog shit going into this game, and they were like, Yeah, that was so insane.

It is the perfectest game, and the Dodgers were.

I think I'm going to.

I think,

well, actually, I want to say something about the Brewers.

The Brewers are fucking sad sack losers pieces of shit.

They didn't even have a fight, they didn't fight, they had nothing.

They had the lowest batting average

ever

in a series.

They had 118 they hit, lowest OPS, fewest.

They had 14 hits in the whole series.

How many runs did they end up scoring?

Did they have like four runs in an entire series?

Four runs.

Four runs.

Exactly one run in every series.

Four runs.

Worst four-game stretch ever in Brewers' history, regular or postseason.

Yeah, it's just like they broke every record.

They just didn't even, they had nothing.

The Dodgers just steamrolled them.

And I know the the Dodgers are really, really good, but still,

they steamrolled them.

The Dodgers also got their rotation back to a good spot.

Yeah, they did.

They shit-pumped them.

The Dodgers are just the best team.

So

I'm wondering, like, I know,

I want to phrase this correctly because obviously

I'd feel differently if the Cubs had lost to the Dodgers.

And the Cubs, look, Cubs could have got lost just like the Brewers.

So I know it's loser talk because the Brewers beat the Cubs and every Brewers fan could say, hey, we beat the Cubs.

But that was an uncompetitive series start to finish.

I think we can all agree on that.

I'm like getting close to the point where it's like,

do I need to just go along for the ride and just not root for the Dodgers, but respect the fuck out of their greatness?

Oh, I already do.

And not be bitter about it.

I hope they don't win.

I'm going to be rooting against the Dodgers, but yes, they are that good.

The crazy thing about them is with Otani, they can be dominant, but also at the same time be extremely fun because you get a guy doing something that has never even really been thought of before.

Like a game like this

will stand for the next like hundred years in baseball.

Yeah.

Yeah, Max, what are you going to say?

Nothing.

Nothing, nothing.

What?

I was just going to say, I want them to smoke.

I want them to smoke whoever in the World Series just so that I can say the Phillies were the second best team.

Yeah, closer to that game.

If that was a real World Series.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

People are saying that was real Series.

Yeah, if you

if you only,

what if they sweep the World Series and you're like, we were the only team that beat them in the playoffs, and we had, and we had a better run differential.

Oh, wow, that's huge.

That's what we talked about.

No, I like the Dodgers, I'm done complaining about how they've ruined baseball because they, again, it's jealousy.

Like, everyone should want an owner who's willing to pay.

And they do it the right way where they pay and they

make guys happy and like their team, you know what I mean?

Like,

they pay.

So, what?

I want to pay.

I'd like to see Otani.

I'd also like to pay.

I'd like to see Otani do it from the right side of the plate.

That's next.

Yeah.

Become a switch hitter.

That was insane.

It was crazy.

Best day, I think, ever for any athlete in any game.

Maybe just the best day anyone's ever had.

Yeah.

Dolly Parton wrote two hit songs, Jolene, and

I Will Always Love You on the same day.

That was a good day.

That's a pretty good day.

This was better.

Yeah, I know I was a little harsh on the brews, and I'm partially coping, but like, if you can't even survive an entire calendar week after you eliminate the Cubs,

you weren't even in the next round.

They got two drunk satisfaction.

They were gone on Friday.

They eliminated the Cubs on Saturday.

They were gone on Friday.

That's crazy.

And

it was nothing.

It was not even a second.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But the Blue Jays Mariner series has been great.

Back and forth.

Also, the Brewers are going to try to trade.

This is what Pizza.

The Brewers, you can't complain about not spending money and then have your owner

be like, hey, we might trade Freddy Peralta because we owe him $9.8 million next year.

And we control him for one more year.

Like, just all owners.

I think my brain has shifted where it's like, I'm sick of complaining about the Dodgers.

We should be complaining about the Pirates owner and the Reds owner and the Rockies owner and all these owners that don't want to spend a dollar.

That's who should get the blame.

Yeah.

Not the Dodgers.

Yeah.

Right?

Dodgers are being smart.

Right.

Like, everyone else who's making money and not spending it, you're the ones who should be pointed at, not the Dodgers for spending money.

Yeah, they're in a big market.

Yeah, they make more money.

I get that.

But still, like, if you're if you're a Pirates fan, you shouldn't be mad at the Dodgers.

You should be mad at your owner.

I'm mad at the Cubs.

I'm mad at Tom Ricketts for not spending more money.

And guess what?

All the owners that say that we're losing money and that that's why we can't spend on shit, ask them one simple question.

Will you please open up your books so that we can verify that you're losing?

And they will never do it because they're not losing money.

In fact, the valuation of their teams alone correct is making them a shitload of money year over year if you're losing money sell your team yeah it's so simple and they won't just sell your team you want to know why they're not

your team you want to know why they're not going to sell their team yeah because they're making money they're making money yeah yeah so i i something where i'm just like i'm done i'm done complaining about it i'm i we we're doing the thing where we take too much heat off of the actual bad actors the owners that are not spending any money and put it on the dodgers when it should be

Yes, the Dodgers are spending a lot of money, and yes, it sucks if they win every single World Series, but the real problem is all these fucking losers that are not spending enough money and making money hand over fist.

And I put Tom Ricketts in that category, so I'm in the category of blame your owner, not the Dodgers.

You know what's crazy is for as much money as they paid Shohei with that contract,

he's making the money.

Like, that's a good investment.

No, I think they already made the money back.

What he did,

that is an awesome payoff for your huge investment that you made correct only downside to it is like i don't know what where you can go from there yeah like we probably just saw shohei otani peek also the if you if you're even having wavering about what i just said think about this the fucking angels who are such like pieces of shit had shohe and mike trout and they didn't make the playoffs and rendon yeah they paid rendon too they're i mean but like that that tells you that like Don't be mad that the Dodgers are just doing it better than everyone else.

Yeah.

Yeah, the Blue Jays Mariners Game 7 is going to rock.

This whole series has just been back and forth, back and forth.

The game on Friday night was incredible.

Yep.

The Grand Slam.

Maybe the best moment in Mariners' history.

Incredible.

I would say that that's probably number one.

Maybe

the clinching game against the Yankees in the ALDS in 95 when Randy Johnson came in and the negative Martinez.

I mean, this is coming.

That one was sick, though.

This has to be up there to go to the

ALCS.

But yeah, that was an awesome moment.

I'm just going to sit back and watch and enjoy the fuck out of baseball.

Game seven.

Like, it's going to be awesome.

Max, who do you have?

My buddy had it.

Your buddy had a bad night.

Tough, tough, tough Friday.

I like that Max can't escape baseball, even though the Phillies are out.

He just texted us on Friday night.

He's like, yeah, that was my boy who gave up that home run.

It's Cal Rowley.

It was bad.

Yeah, and he's like, I'm getting a bunch of tweets, blaming me.

Max, what'd you think about Springer standing strong in the box and taking that pitch off the knee?

Love that.

That's what I'm talking about.

The replay of that, that was mic'd up, it sounded like a double to the gap off of his kneecap.

I love it.

By the way, I did some math because I wanted to make sure that I wasn't talking out of my ass about me getting hit by pitches a lot.

There's 150 ABs that I can access right now.

Like from my college career, I got hit in 6% of ABs.

The leader of all time in MLB history, some guy from the 1800s, and he got hit in 5% of at-bats.

That's pretty good.

So

I stand by my shit.

I stand by my shit.

You're the greatest to ever do it.

PFT, you want to ask the follow-up that you asked when you told us this?

Yeah, Max, do you think that has anything to do with the square surface?

There's been some big ball players out there.

Yeah, I mean, there's a reason Jose Altuve isn't leading the league in the hit by pitch.

He probably gets hit by a pitcher.

He actually does.

He probably does.

Yeah, he probably does.

But for the purposes of this joke, if he was your size.

He would get hit by a lot more.

A lot more.

You got your own gravitational pull with some of these.

Fuck yeah.

Once they get close to your orbit.

Yeah.

The ball just gets sucked in like a planet getting absorbed by the sun.

I'm happy we're getting a game seven.

And, you know, and again, like,

the Dodgers is sweet, but we got to see incredible moments.

Mostly show A and the rest of their pitching.

So.

Who do you guys have in game seven?

I got to go with my M's.

Yeah, I think I'm rooting for

the Mariners.

Someone picked the Blue Jays, so that way.

Toronto Blue Jays.

Blue Jays.

Okay, there you go.

Yeah, your boy.

Yeah, he's going to come back.

He might not pitch again.

Throw him back out there.

Yeah, throw him back out there.

Throw him back out.

I think Big Dumper's about to have a game.

Poo-poo.

He's going to go poo-poo.

Poo-poo.

Big dumper going to go poo-poo.

Shane Bieber on the bump.

He's in that fantasy league.

I should send him a trade request right before.

That'd be how chance he would look if he accepted it.

If he accepted it.

actually, the funniest thing would be if you sent him that before the game, he went out there and lost, and then like five minutes after the game, accepted it.

He accepted it.

He was like, fuck, I'll just do it.

Yeah, I should actually send him like an insane trade request that's good for him.

So he has to.

Yeah, he'll be thinking about it.

Yeah.

And then pull it back.

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Hank.

My Who's Back of the Week are Thieves.

Oh, okay.

Uh-oh.

They got the Louvre.

What?

There's a heist?

There was a heist in the Louvre.

Dude.

What happened?

I love a good heist.

They broke into the Louvre, which I would have to imagine, like, if you're a thief, like, that's, you know.

It's number one.

Number one.

Boring place to go.

Drail.

I agree.

And they got a bunch of, like, what do you call them?

Jewels that

you can't put a price on them.

Crown jewels.

Probably getting the Mona Lisa?

They did not get the Mona Lisa.

Oh, exactly.

It's overrated.

But yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where you think, you know, with technology and everything just getting taken online and kind of like AI taking people's jobs, it's kind of like how thieves and like burglaries

kind of old hat.

I think it's good to know that like there's still thieves that are planning heists, especially at the Louvre and like making it happen.

Yeah, real old school, like throwback type shit.

Yeah, like I'm

I don't condone thieving

robbing the Louvre.

I got nothing but respect.

I condone heists.

Yeah, if you've got a guy in the truck that's outside, if you've got like a crew that you have to assemble and they've all got like different skills, and you

code names, I condone that.

Yes.

And

a bunch of them kill each other after.

Afterwards, yeah.

Yes, there's only one standing.

One guy's like, I thought we weren't going to do any violence.

Yeah.

And then one guy shows up in a new Cadillac and says, take it back.

Yeah.

Take it back.

No, they said, yeah, armed with power tools, a crane lift,

and a ladder.

That's badass.

I expected the Louvre to have better security than that.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, is the Louvre washed?

Yeah,

I think the Louvre

really overrated.

Way overrated.

Yeah, they got some crowns.

They got Napoleon's wife's crown.

They left it behind.

Oh, shit.

Oh, they left it behind.

It fell out when they were running.

Ha!

That's awesome.

See?

I don't like that.

No, that might have been.

They might have left it like a...

Okay, because I don't want sloppy thieves.

I like if they were able to to just bang, bang, they did it in seven minutes.

I'm looking it up right now, but then you get to imagine like they met up at the hotel room later, they're looking at their loot, and then one guy's like, Hey, where's Napoleon's wife's crown?

He's like, Oh, it must have fallen out of the suitcase.

You got sloppy, and then

Frank, what the fuck did you do?

Okay, I'm in for this.

No, I like this a lot.

It happened at 9:30 on Sunday morning.

That's crazy.

People were watching football.

Yeah, oh no, football wasn't on then time zones.

They probably had some.

Hawaii game, maybe.

Yeah.

They were experienced thieves that broke into the gallery with the disc cutter.

No, duh.

No, duh.

Now, where do you go?

If you rob the Louvre, where do you go to sell that shit?

There's black market.

Yeah.

Okay, Sicily.

Yeah, for sure.

Maybe Amsterdam.

No, some billionaire is going to buy it.

Some Russian oligarch is going to buy that shit.

For sure.

Listen, I wanted this collection, but I really needed Napoleon's wife's crown.

Yeah.

It's It's just incomplete now.

I've got Napoleon's facial hair.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's pretty much the same thing.

Macrone said we will recover the works and the perpetrators will be brought to justice.

Everything is being done everywhere to achieve this.

Yeah, right, dude.

You ain't finding them.

What if he was in a

perfect crime?

It was him and his wife.

I saw like a news report where it was, you know, a bunch of old people mad that they went to go see the Mona Lisa, but it was closed for the day.

Wow.

I mean, I would, I would, if I planned to go to the Louvre this day and it was closed because of a heist, I would, I would tip my cap.

Yeah.

Say, that rocks.

Wow.

I love this, Hank.

These are back, yeah.

You know what?

If France still had it, they would just organize and get, like, a hundred people to go to the police station tomorrow morning and turn themselves in and be like, I'm the thief.

It's just really the thief.

Yeah.

It would be way cooler to say that you were at the Louvre the day that it got heisted.

Yeah.

Then you were just like randomly saw fucking Mona Lisa.

Who gives a fuck about Mona Lisa?

Yeah, this crane is cool.

I love this.

All right.

We should do a heist.

Yeah.

Oh, steal the bean.

Dude, I think we've talked about this before.

Now we need the minions for that.

We've talked about this before, but it would be so badass.

I don't think they can do this legally, but like they have escape rooms just

simulate bank robberies.

Yeah.

Like,

how fun would that be?

Like, what are you doing Friday night?

We're going to go fake robberies.

Bake robberies, though.

You need muscle.

No, no, you don't.

I like museum and like art.

I like this type of.

But how simple?

Bank robberies.

Every movie in a bank robbery, then someone shoots someone by accident, and then you're fucked.

Yeah, but you got to get in.

You got to...

One battle after another.

You get fake cap guns or something or whatever they can do.

Paintball guns.

And it's like, hey, you got to rob this bank.

How fun would that be?

That would be a blast.

Yeah.

Just simulate those?

The trick it.

You got to have somebody on the inside if you're robbing a bank.

Yeah, you do.

You always got to have someone on the inside.

They definitely had someone on the inside, definitely.

Okay, good who's back.

I love that heist.

My who's back of the week is, hey, shout out Max and Memes, podcast producers.

Oh,

podcast producers are back big time this weekend.

I don't know if you guys saw Pablo Torre finds out on Friday, but he dropped a new episode.

Yeah.

And this, I mean, I know guys like Hank were saying, hey, Pablo only goes after Bill.

He only goes after Jordan.

But this episode just made me realize what a great producer Jordan is.

It's like working overtime.

She knows Adobe Photoshop.

And I don't think I've ever heard Hank says it.

Wait, what is it?

Adobe Photoshop.

Okay.

And that's a word.

Not just Photoshop.

Adobe Photoshop.

I'd never heard Hank talk about that before.

I'd never heard Max talk about it, never heard memes talk about it.

But it's editing, it's editing software that you can use to make graphics.

And so Jordan, when she was helping to produce the coaches podcast, the map metrician Bill Belichick, was being very helpful saying, hey, this font could be better.

It should be leathery.

It should look like football.

Maybe we can do this so it's animated and then we'll be able to reuse it.

And it was just really a masterclass in Jordan being Jordan and

helping her boy out and really being a five-tool girlfriend.

She's a girl boss, and Pablo's coming off as a little misogynistic.

Oh, for not thinking that Jordan would know what Adobe Photoshop was.

I mean, like, how is that the big news?

Yeah.

Of course she knows Adobe Photoshop.

It was very funny.

She could screen, she could screenshot, clip it, boom.

Now you got a graphic.

It was very funny watching the actual producer of the podcast just put his head down when she was explaining what they should be doing.

Yeah.

It kind of felt bad for that guy.

It's also very funny that Pablo came on this show and explained that he does a mix of

the somewhat boring things where he's looking into the clippers and what they're doing.

And then these things things with Jordan that get a lot of clicks.

And he's like, Yeah, I got to do both.

But every time he posts a Jordan clip, everyone's like, You're just, you're such a

this bullshit.

Your whole podcast is bullshit.

It's like he, he told you he's going to do both.

And I think it's a pretty good podcast.

Hank doesn't agree.

Hank, I was actually getting mad about people getting mad at you for your reply because your reply was funny, saying that he needs to look into the Jared Goff touchdown.

Yeah, he does.

He needs to focus on other things.

Like Jared Goffdown.

Yeah, like if Pablo Torrey had bet Jared Goff first touchdown scorer, the NFL would be shaking in their boots.

I can't do anything.

But Pablo can.

Pablo can.

Do it for Hank, Pablo.

Or Pablo, how about this?

How about you just teach Hank how to do investigative journalism?

And so then Hank can look into these things on his own.

Now, that's a podcast I would listen to.

Yeah.

Pablo finds out how dumb Hank is.

I think that'd be a great podcast.

He's like your mentor, and like whatever you want to look into, he will teach you how to submit like a Freedom of Information Act request.

I like Pablo.

That would be fun.

That would be fun.

We should do that.

Hank goes to school.

We do need a Capital J journalist on this podcast.

Oh, Hank's thinking.

No, I like Pablo.

No, I like Pablo.

What are you going to say?

I like Pablo.

But

I like Pablo.

But

no,

I like him

Hank, are you afraid that if he teaches you how to dig too deep into stuff, you're gonna uncover some things that you don't want to know?

No,

absolutely not.

No, no,

no, yeah, no, I do

like if you're underdog, like what who's leaking that?

That's a problem

Huge problem.

Huge, huge problem.

It was probably

the guy in that clip.

You can't have that.

You can't have the clips just getting leaked out.

Hot mic clips.

Yeah, I think you know who comes out looking.

Now you got a new show.

No, no, no.

You're going to send some stuff to Pablo.

God, no.

I thought that there's one person that came out of this looking great.

Jordan.

Patricia.

Yeah, Jordan and Patricia.

Yeah.

Yeah, Patricia.

I didn't know that he had that type of patience.

He just sat there and was just like, I'm just going to deal with this.

My boy's getting some primo pussy.

I just got to fucking chill out.

Just take it.

We've all been in that spot.

Like, look, he's happy.

He's got a smile on my mouth.

I'm happy.

I'm not going to break him up.

What are you going to do?

It's first time getting some primo.

What are you going to do?

It's got to be driving him nuts.

Bill's got to just love it.

I actually think Bill might still be extremely happy.

Oh, yeah.

Even given the state of Carolina football right now, I think he's having the time of his life.

He probably doesn't even know that this guy.

Probably someone said, like, hey, Bill, Hop Mike came out.

He's like, all right.

Yeah.

I think he's punching that clock.

Is he going to stop me getting primo?

Just getting his world rocked.

Any thoughts, hey?

Nope.

Nope.

Patricia's happy, too.

Patricia's, he's

at Ohio State having the time of his life.

Yeah.

Patricia's probably three.

Yeah, Patricia's much better spot.

He's got a great job.

Matt Patricia probably wakes up every day reading stories about UNC being like,

that was close.

Yeah, holy shit.

I'm on the best team in the country.

Yeah.

And I get to be.

You're the best defense?

Yeah, I get to just be the defensive coordinator of a loaded roster.

Yeah.

That's sick.

Pretty good.

Yeah.

All right, my who's back of the week has fired coaches because Billy Napier got fired.

And I actually think so.

He got 9.7 million right away within 30 days.

I think his whole bio is like 18.

Okay.

I think we need to start doing this more often where if you're going to fire your coach, let him go out with a win because he won on Saturday night.

He beat Mississippi State.

They still fired him.

That's kind of a nice way to go out.

Yeah, if possible.

Yeah.

And also we had fire coaches James Franklin going on game day,

which

I...

That was genius for him because he basically just had Saban carry the water for him.

Just being like, it's insane and disrespectful what they do to coaches now.

Yeah.

I saw some people being like, why is he doing this?

Like, what do you think?

Why wouldn't he do this?

He basically gets to go on national television, and Nick Saban gets to say everything that James Franklin wants to say but won't say while James Franklin is sitting there nodding along.

Yeah, I mean, at the end of his tenure, James Franklin could be like, I was wildly successful here.

Yeah.

And then things kind of fell apart at the last second.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And we'll see who else gets fired.

I don't know what Wisconsin is going to do.

We're just going to keep getting our teeth kicked in.

Did you guys see the Oregon Duck jerseys?

They're so

awesome.

Yep.

They're so awesome.

Zach, your Who's Back of the Week.

My Who's Back of the Week this week is going to be Mayland's number one food review podcast, MD Foodie Boys.

Yep.

MD Foodie Boys

parodied on SNL.

Yeah.

It was pretty funny.

Sweet look.

Yeah, the skit itself was actually funny as well.

Yeah.

Those guys rock.

Yeah, they rock.

Good look.

Sprint Carpenter was in the skit.

I thought she was really good.

She was fantastic.

Did you see the performance as well on SNL or just the skits?

No, I just saw the mirror scene.

Yeah, it was was awesome.

Yeah.

What mirror scene?

She was like dancing in the mirror or something.

Yeah.

What song?

I don't know what song it was.

I forget the name of the song.

It doesn't have the sound on.

But she was great.

She was a great actress.

Yeah, the MD Foodie Boys are up.

Way up.

Way up.

Good who's back, Zach.

Excited for the Bucs game?

Give us a prediction.

I'm looking forward to the game.

Early prediction for the game without them playing any plays is going to be Buccaneers win in Detroit.

Okay.

Lions are pretty banged up secondary-wise.

And Brian Branch is out for one game suspension.

One game suspension.

Yep.

And Seahawks Texans should be.

I actually think that game's going to be kind of a slog.

But, like, not that they're bad teams.

I think it's just going to be a defensive battle.

I think I'm going to opt in to sports tomorrow.

Let's go, Max.

Sports on Monday.

Yeah, no, it's good sports.

Bonus sports.

It's really a good sports tomorrow.

It's going to be a great sports.

One of these two football games is going to be great.

And game seven.

And game seven.

Game seven.

Pray for anyone who doesn't have either YouTube TV or multiple TVs.

You don't have YouTube.

Hey, are you still giving me that TV you said you were going to give me?

Yeah.

Tomorrow?

No.

Not tomorrow, but like one of these days.

Yeah.

You weren't asking for tomorrow, though.

He wants it for me.

Tomorrow would have been nice.

Yeah, tomorrow.

Tomorrow would have been nice.

Actually, can he make it happen tomorrow?

Maybe.

10% chance.

I'll take that's better than zero.

There's a lot of sports on tomorrow.

I'll get iPhone.

I'll get whatever.

What would you say the percentage is if you had to do another?

I said 10%.

Three.

There you go, memes.

Memes.

There you go, memes.

Memes gonna win it today.

Let's go, memes.

Islanders for Sharks tomorrow, too.

Great game.

Huge.

Sharks coach said he was gonna give up his coach.

He would give up his kid for a win.

I like that.

Okay.

That's how bad.

I hate his kid.

Yeah.

That was all three back.

I guess I gotta go 10.

It's either gonna be 3, 33, or 88 today.

I'll go 4.

I'm going to go 15.

What, 8?

88.

99.

Pug.

8.

Maristons?

4.

Wait, what?

Someone said 88.

What did Jack say?

Jack said 4.

I said 4.

He just

wants to repeat numbers.

86.

He can't hear.

He can't.

Oh, he can't hear.

Yeah.

32.

Damn.

You want to do one more?

Yes.

Everyone say you their number so that we have it on record.

22.

3.

33.

8.

44.

86.

15.

4.

Memes.

This is one I think you're going to get.

I really do.

It's going to be 3.

I think it's going to be 3.

I would love for you to get it, right?

It could be three.

Hug thinks it's going to be 18.

Oh!

Oh, Pug 989!

This guy.

How many is that, Pug?

Wow.

I think that's seven now.

Dynasty.

Hey, Pug, give us one of those.

Pug.

Yeah, show it to us.

You got rings everywhere, bro.

Yeah, you and Shane, ring boys.

Holy fuck.

There we go.

That was crazy.

Seven.

It's been a while.

It's good to be back.

How long has it been?

Feels like forever.

Yeah, it's been.

I was on a hot streak, but there was a big gap for sure.

Damn.

Memes, why don't you just start taking 99?

I tried that.

You guys cried.

No,

you guys cried.

Yeah, we might have.

Oh, you haven't won since.

Oh, like in the year.

No,

that can't be right.

You haven't won in a year, Pug?

I feel like he's won recently.

It has been a while.

Oh, shit.

Yeah.

Wow, Pug.

You had a streak of a cold streak going.

Yeah, I know.

Good for you, dude.

It's good to be back.

It's good to be back.

It's huge.

Wow.

Wow.

Is that the longest losing streak anyone's ever had on the show?

No.

Over a year?

I don't know.

What was Hanks?

Oh, no, it's probably not because memes hasn't gotten it yet.

Ah, shit.

How close is.

Is he still far away from Hank?

How far away is memes from Hank?

I'm actually afraid of memes right now.

Why?

Because

this is an

electric podcast segment.

People love it.

Come on.

Do you...

Max doesn't know how to work this.

No.

Not even close.

If you want 99.

He's not even looking at it.

Not even close to close.

Anything relative to the question.

Trackers.

Look at

trackers.

Maybe.

Tracker.

Go up to tracker.

If he has pretty much.

His headphones aren't on.

No, his headphones aren't on.

He's just.

He's lost right now.

No, this is you, Lander, going through.

I can't hear anything.

We know.

We've been talking about you the whole time.

You're not even close to looking at the right places.

I gave Pug my headphones.

I had no idea.

That doesn't mean you.

Yeah.

Oh.

But you still.

We're looking to see how long, how close is memes to catching Hank?

Oh, yeah.

It's right here.

I couldn't hear you.

Memes will tie Hank's record.

Oh, wow.

Oh, wow.

He's got a tracker for 263 days.

Oh, you get a clock on?

days yeah we do

we have to get a clock 263 days oh my gosh okay

memes we got to get you this he'll get it he will get it that's so long memes think about that memes when would you get nervous

i don't know

okay 100 100 days

if

i don't know You'll get it.

Memes, what were you saying about was Pug bitching when you...

Oh, yeah.

No, you didn't ask permission.

Oh, I didn't ask permission.

What the fuck?

What kind of show is it?

You just stole it.

If you were like, can I have it?

I'm sorry, I didn't ask permission for your lottery ball.

I didn't ask to borrow your car.

Oh.

All right.

We'll see everyone Wednesday.

What are you doing?

All right.

Good job, Pug.

Congrats.

Congrats, Pug.

Thank you.

Congrats, Pug.

All right.

Love you guys.

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