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On today's part of my take, presented by DraftKings, it is week six in the NFL.

We're going to recap every game.

The London game was sad.

We had

some big wins in the late slate.

The Bucs look awesome.

The Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl.

Hanks Patriots are back.

So back.

Chargers hold off on the Dolphins.

Dolphins are bad vibes, City.

And we're going to talk some playoff baseball.

The Cubs got eliminated on Saturday night.

I was at the game.

We'll recap that.

We'll talk about the Mariners.

15-inning win on Friday and then game one win tonight.

We'll do a little James Franklin talk who's back of the week.

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Welcome to part of my take presented by draft kings the crown is yours today is Monday October 13th week six

We start in Carolina where Brian shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shots.

Everybody and Hymer was trying to get America's team above 500 on the season in the wake of the Meow Mix retirement.

Don't count the Carolina Panthe, theirs, dead because he co-dattle said, I'm him.

Running like he needed to use a gender-neutral bathroom, scoring twice and getting 239 from scrimmage.

Bryce Young did his best to outduel Iraq Prescott, who ironically was the one throwing bombs to George W.

Bush Pickens, the only bright spot in the offense.

Wait, wait, Teach.

I'm receiving news that Javante Brian Williams was also claiming that he was targeted as well.

The Panthers move to 2-0 post-Beow mix after a walk-off field goal from Ryan Fitzgerald.

Panthers 30, Cowboys 27.

We go to Baltimore, where Poopa Rush is playing like a number two quarterback as the Ravens Ravens are looking to dig their way out of their biggest hole yet.

Puka Nakuad and Afraid's season has been a blur so far as his uniform changed from NC 17 to 12 and no one was scoring in the first half.

But then Kyron Williams Wallace declared prima nocta on the Baltimore end zone.

The Ravens had several chances in the red zone, but Mark Andrews Tate tried to oppose as well and got flattened like a European pancake and couldn't beat the statutory crepe allegations.

Dave Matthews Matthews Stafford had the ants marching down the field, finding Tyler Higby baby one more time for some TDs that still look great after all these years.

Snoop Bluntly made his way out of the backwoods and onto the field after the game and went up in smoke as the Ravens dipped to one and five against Puna Ford and the Rams.

The Rams win 17-3.

Puna Ford's on the Rams?

He was on the Chargers.

Ah, we go across the pond where Memes has promised for a great boomer.

In foggy London town, where we imagine all the people who had to wake up early to watch Justin Nathan Fielder say, I hope you're hungry for nothing after passing for net negative 10 yards.

J.K.

Dobby the elf.

J.K.

Dobby is a free elf, couldn't get it going on the ground, but had to get saved by the Nate Atkins diet, who showed the end zone 252 pounds of lean meat as the tight end scored the only touchdown of the day.

Aaron Gigaga Glenny and the Jets decided to run the clock out in the first half.

The new coach had Jets fans thinking that maybe

you were going to be the one that saves me.

And after all, you kind of suck balls.

Not much happened in the second half as the Broncos were serving up fish and chips with the side of D's nuts as Will hit the go-ahead field goal.

As Zach Abba in the Broncos defense said, Gimme, gimme, gimme your quarterback after midnight.

Won't somebody help you as we put the game away?

Broncos 13, Jets 11.

Great job, memes.

We're back to stateside and we head down to Miami where the Dolphins were trying not to be the worst team in the AFC Far East.

Everybody did their part.

Kung Fua Tagliavoa was able to hit Darren Great Waller and Jalen Sanity Waddle played like he was in MSG.

But just like Mike McDaniels pants, they came up short.

Kamani Vidal Sassoon cut through the hair of the Dolphins defense all afternoon, and it looked like the LA was going to win this one easily.

But after a furious Dolphins comeback, the Chargers, facing a tough loss in the face, dipped into their bag for a Lad McConk key bump as he sprinted down the sideline like Mark Sanchez in Indianapolis Alley, putting the Chargers in field goal range and getting the win.

The San Diego Super Chargers, 29, the Miami Dolphins, 27.

Now we go to Pittsburgh, where for Cleveland Browns, the times they are a changing.

As Bob Dylan Gabriel's playbook looked like a complete unknown to him and went from being a folk hero to having his own fans poo him for trying to be too electric.

Miles Garrett wanted to put Aaron Rodgers in a spooky sack graveyard, but you can't kill a guy who's already used up his brain's natural supply of DMT.

As Mr.

Rogers took off his slippers and cardigan, teaching the Browns their ABCDK mechafs, while the Connor Carry on, my Hayward son said, Don't you cry, don't you cry,

don't you cry

door the steelers went 23 to 9

and now we head down to the big easy where Henry Lockwood was on the scene down in the bayou Drake all things seemed possible in May connected with the Mario Andretti Douglas who went zoom into the end zone for a P1 finish Blake Augustus group said, I like chocolate and field goals as he had four of them, three of which came in the first half.

Taysom Henry Hill said, as far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a touchdown scorer in the second quarter to get the Saints within one.

Mike Frable wanted to eat Kayshawn's booty-like groceries after he connected it with Drake May for a score, and the Patriots win again.

25-19.

All right, for the game of the week, Zach.

In Tampa Bay, 49ers box.

To kick it off in Tampa, Easy Baker Oven Mayfield hands off to Rashad White Chocolate Chip, who absolutely drags his macadamia nuts across San Francisco's defense from two yards out.

Christian McCaff, Ray-Ban Sunglasses, throws on his hater blockers with the blue tint and strolls into the end zone for a touchdown.

Baker Mayfield hands it off to Sean Tucker, I barely know her, who walks in the end zone from 10 yards out.

Eddie Penier, A-A-A-A-O, A-A-A-A-O, A-A-A-A-O, A-A-A-A-O, eyo was left to his own device.

Kicking four for four for 13 points, but the walls keep tumbling down as Paddy Cake, Paddy Cake, Bakers our man threw it to the end zone as fast as he can.

To Cameron, Johnson, and Johnson, who got into the end zone faster than those booster shots that started rolling out that one year.

We all stayed inside.

10 for 30, San Francisco 19.

Great job, Zach.

It was great, Zach.

Oh, and we have a very special guest to sing us off.

You thought he might have died on Thursday night, but it's Max.

Standing on the corner, Jameis Winstonville and Nova.

Such a fine sight to see.

It's Scatterboom, my lord, walks through the blue tent door.

Helping dart to spell CTE.

Really?

The goddamn birds are

giving me flamentia.

Hang screaming.

We

are.

Eagles lose 34-17.

And that was the fastest two minutes from week six.

That was a great one, boys.

That was really good.

It's great.

I enjoyed your accent, Zach.

Yeah.

His accent was

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Okay, week six in the books.

We're actually going to do this fully in order because we're recording a little bit early, so we're going to do Sunday Night Football at the end of all of the recaps.

So we're going to go.

We've always wanted to treat ourselves to staying up late and watching a full Sunday night football.

Yeah, and we usually do like an interspersed Sunday night football.

This time, we're going to recap Sunday night football at the end of all the games.

Sequential order is a long day of football because Roger Goodell keeps demanding that we start the day very early, and it started with a gross one.

Broncos 13, Jets 11.

Oh, boy.

Yes.

This is one of those ones we should apologize to England for.

Yeah, you want the colonies back?

I mean,

memes,

I don't know if you can even be hurt anymore, but if you could be hurt anymore, this game would have hurt you more.

Is that fair to say?

This game did hurt me more.

Okay, so it did hurt you.

So you were still able to be hurt.

And this one was atrocious.

The Jets had 32 first half yards.

They had negative 10 passing yards, net passing yards.

They had 82 total yards on the game.

They got their first first down right before the two-minute warning in the first half, which coincided with one of the weirdest.

Did Aaron Glenn already quit his job moments where the Jets did a

fake punt on a fourth and one at the end of the half to get a first down and then with that first down at midfield did absolutely nothing.

So watching this live, Kurt Warner was just like beyond furious about the whole thing.

He just couldn't speak anymore.

But that's his job is to

tell us why he's so angry.

But he was just so upset with football, with the quality of play that he just wouldn't say anything.

When I watched this, initially I was like, memes,

I have no idea what the fuck Aaron Glenn is doing.

Then I thought about it for a second.

Tell me if I'm on the right track.

Those are the 38.

Sorry, I said midfield.

There's their own 38, but still.

Tell me if I'm on the right track here, Memes.

Aaron Glenn faked that punt and then ran the clock out because he trusts his defense so little that he doesn't want to give.

He feels like it's worth it to go for an extra one yard on a fourth down around midfield and then kill the clock at the end of the half because he thinks that if he gives the ball to the Broncos with like 40 seconds left, they're going to score a touchdown.

Is that fair?

That's correct.

Yeah.

The previous two weeks, the Cowboys scored two touchdowns in under two minutes, and then Tarad threw a pick six right before the end of the half in the Bucs game.

But your defense wasn't even bad today.

No, I don't agree with what he did.

They should have threw like a five or 10-yard out, but try to get like we're sitting there.

All of us were watching this with 35 seconds left on a third and eight.

Like, go try to pick it up try to take one deep shot and then punt with 35 seconds left the broncos only have one timeout it was so baffling i i think he's quit i think he's quit

i think he realizes how bad this team is and he's just trying to get games over with get the first overall pick and then try to get guys in but i don't know if he'll be if he'll be coaching this time next year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do you think that was an embarrassing enough showing to the point where Woody's going to have a talk with him?

Maybe Brick has a talk with him.

Yeah.

I don't think so.

Well, Garrett Wilson, your best player, is that fair to say on offense?

It's fair to say.

Yeah.

He said, I just didn't know exactly what the plan was.

Once I figured it out, I was disappointed.

I'll just say that.

And he talked to Aaron Glenn.

He was just like,

if you're an offensive player, you're basically telling your offense you guys are not capable of getting yards, yards, which they weren't on Sunday.

So I guess credit to Aaron Glenn.

He read the room correctly.

They were not capable of getting yards, which leads me to the other point of why is Tarod Taylor not playing?

Like, Justin Fields is,

it's bad.

It's bad.

I got to be honest, big cat.

I tried my very hardest to come up with a blind resume comparing Justin Fields and Jalen Hurts.

There's not a single stat that is possible to parse.

No.

Yeah, I tried breaking it down, like, third quarter, second drive against the Broncos.

Yeah.

Compare the two head-to-head.

I tried like

drives after the Broncos score a touchdown.

I tried to parse it every way I possibly could.

He's

unblind resumeable.

That's how bad Justin Fields has gotten at this point.

It's so bad.

He got sacked nine times.

That's a lot of credit to the Broncos defense, which I want to talk about in a second.

But he can't.

He doesn't read the field well.

It's like it's painful to watch him try to pass.

He had as many, he was sacked as many times as he completed a pass, both nine.

It was to the point where, at the end of the game, the Jets had a chance to win the game, which is everything we're saying.

It's like the Jets were in this game.

The Broncos played down to their competition.

The Jets were in this game.

There was a moment where it was a fourth and eight with, I don't know how much time was left.

It was like very little time left.

And I said to myself, Nick Folk, who his career career long, he's like a million years old, his career long in the NFL is 58 yards.

There is a significantly better chance for Nick Folk to make a 62-yard field goal than for Justin Fields to pick up a fourth and eight.

Yes.

That's just without a doubt, I would play the field goal every single time.

That didn't make a lot of sense.

Although Nick Folk, he looks like he's enjoyed a few meals at the end of his playing career.

He doesn't seem like he might not have the muscle mass necessary to kick it.

But still, I agree with you.

You never know what's going to happen.

You can just run up and kick it as hard as you possibly can.

There's a chance.

And there's a chance there.

When they got that safety, I thought to myself, the Jets are going to fuck around and win a hilarious game in England.

This would be like a classic, weird start to the day.

Yeah.

But no, they just seemed like they couldn't.

They didn't seem like a football team today.

No.

No, they seemed like, I don't even know what it was.

And again, the Broncos didn't play great.

The Broncos' defense played great.

The Broncos' offense did not play great.

They threw in a safety.

It was like pretty close.

I mean, Bo Nix had a couple moments where it's like, okay, he's back to being Bo Nix.

But overall, I think Sean Payton, like, that was a letdown spot that they played to traveling all the way to London after beating the Eagles.

But that Broncos pass rush is insane.

Nine sacks.

They have 30 on the season.

So we're taping this before Sunday night football.

The second most sacks for a team.

Lions haven't played yet.

They have 16.

The Broncos have 30 sacks.

The record is 72 by the 84 Bears.

They're like, I know it is all off of a nine nine-sack day when they're not going to get nine sacks every game, but they have 30 through

six weeks.

They were still pretty good if you don't count that game.

They're still.

Yeah, they had 21 by the end of the year.

They were 21, so pretty incredible.

Yeah, the Broncos defense is always going to be good.

Defense travels.

I think that's what we can take away.

I'm willing to write off a weird, fluky offensive game from the Broncos and be like, they'll probably be okay.

Yeah.

They'll probably figure it out, get better.

But they have just, I mean, got out of England with a win.

That's good.

Nick Benito, Jonathan Cooper, DJ Jones, like all these guys are just getting pressure time and time again.

And yeah,

I think they're second in points given up.

I think the Texans are first.

The Broncos' defense is what everyone was high on going into this season, and they have answered the bell.

Can the offense be consistent enough to take that next step?

Today they weren't, but I've also seen flashes of Bo Knicks where I'm like, yeah, it can be.

Yeah, so the negative 10 net pass yards for Justin Fields today, that's the worst that a Jets quarterback has ever had, and it's the worst by any NFL team in 27 years.

It's a long time.

Wait, what was the Justin Fields, his rookie year?

Remember the game against the Browns?

We were in Aurora for that.

Maybe you guys weren't there.

We did a.

Was that 2021?

I think so.

It was against the Browns.

It was one of the worst games I've ever watched.

I wonder what the net passing yards in that game were.

He got sacked a million times in that game as well.

Let's see.

Browns 26, Bears 6.

That one.

Yes, that one.

Okay, let's take a look here.

Passing yards.

He had 68 passing yards.

Was it net?

How many nets?

I'm looking up Sacks right now.

So let's see Saks.

Box score.

That was his first start in the NFL, and we're four years into it, and it's or five years into it, and

it hasn't gotten much better.

It was,

I mean, it was bad.

I just remember how bad it was.

That's all I just remember being like, holy shit, this is about as bad as it could get.

Yeah, he was 6 for 20 for 68 yards in that game.

And he had 67 yards worth of sacks in that game.

Yeah.

So one

passing yard?

He had one passing yard.

Net passing yard.

He had a yard.

Yeah.

So I guess.

So, yeah, he's going backwards.

Yeah, going backwards.

He's going backwards.

Yeah, yeah.

He's going backwards.

This is where minus 10 is hard to do.

It was tough to watch.

I'm not going to stop watching the London games, but I think I'm going to do a boycott in name only because I'm sick of them.

Yeah, I was thinking about ways to boycott.

In name only.

We tried to do this last year.

We boycotted the first half of the Pro Bowl last year.

I think I might have just thrown in the second half Pro Bowl for free.

Yeah.

But I don't think that that got the league's attention.

It just always feels just weird, out of place, and it was designed when it was whatever it was, whenever we started doing this 10 years, 15 years ago, you could tell me we were doing this 20 years ago.

I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

i time doesn't make sense to me anymore in general when it was two times a year it felt like an experience it felt like something like oh this week we've get we get early football london football now they're just throwing it at us every single sunday how many more do we have well we've got rams jags next week yep falcons colts in november and then dolphins commanders In Spain, yeah, in Spain, Madrid.

Rams Jags is a good game.

We've got to watch that game.

Again, it's a boycott in name only.

Anyone who wants to join me, it's a boycott and name only.

That's not a boycott.

It is.

No, you can just say

namely.

You can say you're boycotting.

Yeah.

I'm boycotting from my couch while I watch the game.

I have a dumb idea.

Yeah.

Monday night football in London.

No, 8.30 a.m.

on Monday.

Stop it.

I actually kind of like that.

No, nobody could watch that.

8.30 a.m., the London night football?

No, we could.

Yeah, we could, but people can't watch that you know no people can't watch that no but what about like a four o'clock 4 p.m okay here's something that people could watch at work because you can watch anywhere now it's not like you know back in the day where it's like i'm not in front of a tv no everyone can watch everywhere on your phone on your work give us an afternoon workday

i would i'd be in on that you remember that u.s open the one that finished in a playoff on a on a monday yeah where nobody went to work tiger versus uh rocco rocco versus rocco yeah the nfl could do that and say just like, okay,

week 10, we're going to take the teams that have the best two records in the NFL and they're going to play a Monday game.

Monday morning,

Monday afternoon game.

Not morning, afternoon.

I think afternoon.

Like a flash scheduling thing.

Because everybody would watch it.

It would save our Mondays.

It would make Monday fly by that much faster.

I mean, this was what happened in COVID football.

Remember when we had the random like Tuesday afternoon game?

Yep.

We could.

What apps are these on?

I know they care a lot about people watching on the apps.

What do you mean?

Well, I'm going to watch the game on the app, right?

I'm going to watch the game.

If there's football being played.

Yeah, I just watched it on YouTube TV.

I'm going to tune in.

I might delete whatever app as a form of protest, delete whatever app the game's on right after the game's over for like the next week.

I feel like one day they do like NFL Network a little bit.

Yeah, I know.

I just watch it on YouTube TV, so maybe download the NFL Network app and then delete it.

And then delete it.

And then watch it on YouTube TV.

And watch it on YouTube TV.

I'm carrying forward with my boycott in name only.

Again, I will watch them.

I'm not going to like it, but I'm going to watch it and I'm going to boycott in name only.

Could we just boycott English things?

That's fine.

Is there like an English series on Netflix that everyone's watching that we can just boycott that instead?

Yeah, I like that.

You know what?

Rest of the year?

Put a tariff on England.

I'm not eating any blood sausage with like a whole tomato.

Yeah.

Guess what?

Done.

I'm out on Spotted Dick.

No tea.

No more.

No tea.

Okay.

That feels good.

We talked that.

Spotted Dick.

Dick.

Spotted Dick?

Spotted Dick.

It's a dessert.

Yeah.

No, it's not.

Yeah, look it up.

Spot dot dot dot dot actual dick.

Don't Google it.

Don't Google Dick Dick.

Google it.

Google Spotted Dick.

Let's just see.

Google.

Don't do.

Don't just.

Yeah, there it is.

Spotted Dick.

Now Google just spotted dick.

Just see it.

Let's just do a quick.

X out.

Get ready to X out.

Oh, it's still

a few images.

You're on safe mode right now?

Yeah, look at that.

Look at that.

That looks terrible.

It looks pretty good.

It actually kind of looks really good.

Okay, if you were given

if you had to put something named spotted dick in your mouth, you go 10 times out of 10 with that.

Yeah.

That's the best form of spotted dick.

No sausage, no blood sausage, no full tomatoes.

I'll always slice my tomatoes.

And I'm not ever going to say tomatoes.

Yep.

Ever again?

No spotted dick, no tea, and boycott in name only.

The office English version.

Yeah, fuck that.

Yeah, fuck that.

Fuck that.

I'm out.

Yeah.

Does Christian Bale have any movies coming out

soon?

You know what?

Because if he doesn't, I'm going to boycott any new Christian Bale movies for the rest of the year.

Hank, do you want to boycott Oasis?

I don't think there planned any more shows that you're going to go to.

I was going to listen.

Yeah, but going to Oasis shows.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I won't go to any more shows.

Yep, I'm boycotting, going, attending Oasis shows in the United States.

We're showing you, Roger.

The Broncos are the Broncos for real?

Oh, yeah.

I think so.

Yeah, they are.

They're frisky.

I mean, their defense.

Oh, they're just frisky.

I love this.

I love where Hank's brain is.

He's so bad.

I love it because it's like frisky.

You're thinking back to the Broncos when they used to play against Tom Brady.

No, I'm just thinking in the Broncos making a deep playoff run.

This defense is really good, man.

And, like, look at the games.

They should have won the game against the Colts.

They could easily be a 5-1 team.

They threw that game away.

They lost by three to the Chargers.

I know

the Eagles' win was big because they haven't played a ton of awesome teams other than that.

Their schedule is not that difficult.

Yeah.

They have the Raiders twice coming up.

They got the Giants who are frisky.

Cowboys.

I don't know.

I think I'm backing on the Broncos buying some Broncos style.

No, the Broncos, they're going to make the playoffs.

Yeah.

After they lost to the Chargers, I looked at the schedule.

And even not taking into account the Eagles game,

the Broncos are going to be there.

You're going to be a tough team to beat in the playoffs, too, is that defense.

And you could say, like, oh, they only beat the Jets 13 to 11.

They could easily lose this game.

Yes, that was the most letdown you could ever, like, let down spot you could ever find on a schedule off of a big win against the Eagles and having to go to London.

And their defense traveled.

Yeah.

Their defense won them this game.

Memes, overall, like, what?

Oh, I have a blind resume for you.

Ready for it?

Yeah.

All right.

Team one.

First six games.

0-6.

Three losses were in one-score games, averaged 18.5 points per game.

Team two,

0-6, 4 losses were in 1-score games, averaged 20.5 points per game.

Which team would you take?

Are they both the Jets?

No.

One's the Lions, right?

Yeah, one's the 2021 Lions, right before Dan Campbell started turning that ship around.

So you're

from Jackback.

It's a little copium.

Basically, like Aaron Glenn's about to turn turn this thing around just like Dan Campbell.

The difference being that the Jets don't have Jared Goff.

Yeah, it's bad right now.

It's really bad.

Unfortunately,

there's about to be a fire sale probably this week.

Any good players gone?

Probably Quinnen Williams, too, which is sad.

Who would you put on the fire sale?

I think Brees Hall is going to go to the Chargers or the Chiefs.

Alan Lazard's probably already in Pittsburgh.

Both Quinnen and Quincy, the Williams brothers.

They're gone?

Most likely.

Are you splitting them up?

I think you sent them both.

To the same team?

Same team.

You got to.

That would be fucked up.

As a Jets fan, if you could go back in time to one specific

moment that the Jets have had, like a decision that they've made, and you could do the thing where you scream at them, no, don't do this.

Stop what you're doing right now.

You're going to destroy everything.

What moment would that be?

When they drafted Zach Wilson and got rid of Sam Darnold.

That's where it all went wrong.

That's a good one.

What about...

Who would you have taken instead?

No, it would have killed Sam Darnold.

Sam Darnold.

No, you can't

Sewell.

Oh,

that was a good thing.

That would have been good.

At the time, what were you...

Jenny Sewell's 25 years old, by the way.

He's so young.

It was just

fucking Joe Douglas.

At the moment, what were you saying?

At the moment?

Yeah, during that draft.

I get behind anybody they draft.

I follow blindly.

I don't give a shit.

I think COVID ruined football with all those quarterbacks in that draft.

They played in front of no fans.

So then all you have is their pro day.

You couldn't send scouts to the game.

And then you rely on one throw that Zach Wilson makes at a BYU pro day.

It was a good throw.

You rely your entire.

Sorry.

I'm rambling.

No, no, keep going.

You trust your entire franchise in this fucking pussy from Utah.

Yep.

Keep going.

And then then you're fucked for years to come, and then you have to rely on a 41-year-old

who was still good.

I liked him, and his Achilles explodes on Monday night football.

And now you're back to a COVID quarterback.

Back to a COVID quarterback.

Justin Piece is a COVID.

That's a brutal way to put it.

Yeah, no, we've tried everything.

I don't really know where you go from here.

You just got to stockpile draft picks.

Also, I don't know.

I got fired from the team.

Yeah, you did.

You got relieved of your duties.

Good news on the Jets front, Mark Sanchez got released from the hospital.

Yeah.

And then immediately booked in jail.

That's a tough, tough release.

You walk out just knowing

out of the out of the frying pan into the fire.

Yeah.

I thought he should have been on Fox today.

I would have liked to see him calling a game.

In his sling?

Yeah, in a sling.

He's got to face the public.

He's, I don't know what, I mean, he's got to be, was he fired?

I don't think they fired him yet, and I know that there's like a lawsuit against him and against Fox, so we'll see what happens with that.

But I did watch the video.

I watched the behind-the-scenes surveillance film for Sanchez.

The wind sprint part was too good to be true.

He wasn't like getting down a three-point stance, running, stopping, catching his breath, then sprinting back and timing himself.

That's what I had hoped that they meant when they said that.

I think that's what was implied.

He ran up and down the alley a couple times to confront people.

Got it.

I don't think he was doing it to get in shape.

He didn't have a stopwatch on himself.

And he didn't, yeah, he was wearing sneakers, so he was just casually walks towards street.

Sanchez casually walks towards street.

This is, uh, he spent a lot of time in indie that he didn't expect to spend.

Is this the number one thing that people are going to remember Sanchez for now?

I, that's where I was, I was making that argument.

I can't remember when, that, like, the butt fumble is probably number two.

Yeah.

So, mission accomplished because when we had him on, he did not like us joking about the butt fumble.

No, he did not.

I'm glad that was done remotely.

Yeah, I'd agree.

Knowing what we know.

Uh, okay, yeah, so

let's get to the regular slated games.

Sorry, memes.

That was brutal, especially having to wake up and watch that.

That's the part where it's like, it's an extra chore.

You're like, what the fuck?

It's 8.30 in the morning and I got to watch us have negative 10 passing yards.

Yeah, I said this, what was it, last week or the week before?

Like, your job's on the line.

Just get rid of the ball.

You're just a pussy.

One more thing with the international games.

Did you guys know that

countries have exclusive marketing rights to certain teams in the NFL?

No.

So back in 2021, the NFL divided divided up the league and said, okay, like Argentina,

you have Miami Dolphins.

Oh.

You're a Dolphins.

So there's like the sister cities thing that they'll just be like, oh, you'll go into an airport and be like, oh, okay, they're the sister city of what?

Yeah, yeah.

They just assign teams to different countries.

Sometimes they make sense, sometimes they don't.

You know where the Bears are?

Well, I know I think the Chicago sister city might be Warsaw.

One of them.

I think there's multiple sister cities.

at Poland.

The Bears.

The Bears.

That would be Poland, Warsaw.

The Bears got Spain.

Oh, okay.

And

let's see.

Who else did we get?

A United Kingdom.

They just pull it up right here.

There you go.

Yeah.

Nice.

In the UK.

So those are two decent countries.

The Saints got France.

That makes sense.

Yep.

Dolphins getting Colombia.

That makes sense.

That makes perfect sense right there.

Yeah.

I don't know how the Chargers ended up with Greece.

Eagles getting Ghana.

That's a huge win, Max.

Did Somalia get the Buccaneers and the Raiders?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That would be awesome.

I see it right there.

Oh, we got.

Oh, nice.

Commander's got UAE.

The Emirates.

Dude, I mean, the Browns.

A lot of money.

Imagine being a dude in Nigeria and you're like, we got the Browns.

That sucks.

That's fucking bullshit.

Yeah.

That's so mean.

Yeah, they should have based it on which countries are doing well.

Give them the shitty teams.

You get the Browns.

Yeah.

Like, Japan should get the Browns.

What's up?

What's Austria?

Oh, Austria got the Lions, Colts, Chiefs, Patriots, Seahawks, Bucs.

Austria is living large right now.

Yeah, damn.

They got a lot of them.

They hooked them up.

This is very funny.

I don't like giving stuff to Austria.

Like, I would love to have sat in this meeting.

Doesn't it?

Like, yeah,

we're just going to hand all these teams to different countries.

It's not going to work, but we're going to do it.

Oh, Switzerland.

Yeah, Switzerland looked out, too.

Yeah, Switzerland got it up.

UAB,

your.

UAE, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, UAE.

UAB.

I think they just fired Trent Dilpher.

They did, yeah.

Who could have seen that coming?

Well, he was looking at his phone, getting like hondo-pieced by Tennessee.

All right, next game: Chargers 29, Dolphins 27.

This was very close to the Chargers

dropping three straight, right?

Yeah, it would have been three straight.

They would have been three and three.

They were 41 seconds away from that happening, and then Justin Herbert eluded a sack, made an incredible play, and Lad McConkey made an even better play.

And then afterwards, Jim Harbaugh said, that play will be burning in my mind until they throw dirt over over top of me.

Because that was the game winner where Lab McConkey went for 42 yards down the sideline to set up the game-winning field goal.

It was that close, though.

The Chargers were in control for the majority of this game.

The Dolphins, Tua, actually, as bad as he played at times, he had a nice fourth-quarter drive to take the lead with a minute left.

And the Chargers survive.

4-2.

They still have no offensive line,

but 4-2, road win feels good, especially when Justin Herbert and Lab McConkey do something special like that.

Because he was, Justin Herbert was sacked.

He was basically had the guy all around him, was able to step through it, and Lab McConkey put on like one of the best jukes to seal the game.

He shrugged him off, and then, yeah, Harbaugh, when he said, like, I'm going to remember that play for the rest of my life until I'm dead, he also, I like this description that he had about Herbert.

He said, he's able to just mighty man it.

Yeah.

He just thinks that he's mighty man.

That kind of is what it looked like.

He turns into a Superman sometimes and he's able to just get out of these crazy situations.

This was a must-win for the Chargers.

Must-win for the Chargers.

It was a must-win, and their running game showed up big time.

The guy that was on the practice squad, Vidal,

he had, what, 100 yards?

He had a nice game.

But the good news for the Dolphins is they only gave up 140 yards rushing, which is much, much better than their standard 174 yards rushing.

Okay.

But it was still 5.6 yards per carry.

That's what teams do against.

They just run it down their face.

So it didn't get any worse.

The YPC didn't get any worse against the Dolphins.

That poor teacher.

Yeah.

Update the YPC.

She's got to let the people know about that.

Do you know, by the way, because we've got to talk a lot about the Dolphins.

Do you know that Justin Herbert actually, so this was, he's now in second place for game-winning drives since 2020.

Mahomes has 19.

Justin Herbert has 18 since 2020 game-winning drives.

He's tied for second place.

Can you guess who is tied for second place with Justin Herbert?

With Justin Herbert.

Mahomes has 19.

Justin Herbert has 18.

This is game-winning drives since 2020.

Matthew Stafford.

No.

Good guess.

But no.

Tom Brady.

No.

Kirk Cousins.

No way.

Yeah.

Good for Kirk.

Cousins says 18 game-winning drives since 2020.

That should be weighted on a special curve for the Chargers.

Yeah.

Because the Chargers,

they're so used to giving away heartbreaking games at the very end.

Yep.

The fact that he's sitting second place, like that should, they should count double.

Yeah.

That's like having 36 game-winning drives.

For the Dolphins, I was preaching before the season.

It wasn't like a hot, hot take, although I had a little pushback.

I said they were going to be my bad vibes team of the year.

That has

been so true.

We had,

so after Tua threw his third and final pick,

the stadium played Wangsta to troll him.

So he's getting trolled by his own

PA guys, yeah.

his own pa guy uh

then he went to the uh

post game and he said that we have guys showing up late to players-only meetings yeah uh guys some guys not showing up at all to players not showing up at all and then he said it starts with leadership yeah do you think that too is a leader i don't know was that his way of being like it starts with me but he didn't

He went third person on leadership.

I think maybe he's talking about Mike McDaniel.

Now, I said this on Friday, and it's even more true because I did some advanced statistical analysis on this.

Coaches that don't wear proper pants, Capri's, are now 1-11 this season.

I actually don't know if McVay's been wearing regular pants or not, but Mike McDaniel and Aaron Glenn continue to wear pants that do not go past their shins.

Can you pull up the picture?

Mike McDaniel standing at the press conference, like, dude, you're one in five.

Your quarterback is saying that we need leadership.

You lose games in in like just horrific fashion

and you're standing there.

If you go to my Twitter, I quote tweeted it, and you're standing there in pants for a 12-year-old.

I know this is a meatball take, but I firmly believe that you cannot lose.

You cannot be one in five and be wearing pants like Mike McDaniel's pants.

every single press conference.

Look at these.

Yeah, those are the

absurd.

And what you have to do is you have to change if you're a Mike McDaniel.

If you lose, you can't go to the podium in those.

You can't wear those on the sideline.

Wear regular pants until you win a game.

You can't let people see that.

If you lose and you're dressed like Cam Newton, when he lost a game, changing to something different, something more understated.

If you're showing off the legs like that after a loss, it makes you so much sadder.

It's just, again, meatball take, but I firmly believe it.

You can win football games and then wear those pants.

You can't be one in five and continue to come out in those pants.

Yeah, Aaron Glenn as well do you agree memes you got to put on regular pants yeah you should wear a suit that would be cool memes only wears these pants do you memes it's comfortable but you wear socks up to those

usually yeah no i put on no why is i'm a loser though maybe you need to start maybe the leadership starts with you why is that more comfortable

have you tried it I've tried it.

I look like shit.

I look like shit and everything.

Yeah, I don't think I've tried Capri's.

I tried to wear blue jeans last Thursday, and

everyone commented, including my four-year-old daughter, being like, why are you wearing those?

Yeah, I've got jeans on today.

I don't feel right.

I can't wear anything anymore.

I need to just come in in a shower curtain.

Just give me elastic.

Yeah.

I'm standing by this take, though.

Put on some regular pants, Mike McDaniel.

You might win a football game.

He looks sick in a pair of Jinkos.

Yeah.

Imagine that, like the super wide legs.

Some bell bottoms.

You know that Mike McDaniel has the kangaroo pocket jinkos.

Like $600 ones.

Yeah.

At least he took off the tags on the off-whites.

He's not wearing those still.

Those looked ridiculous as well.

I'd like to see him bring back the earrings that he had when he was a ball boy for Denver.

Yeah.

Remember those?

Yeah.

That'd be a good look.

I don't know.

They're just a bad vibes.

I mean,

he's going to get fired.

Yeah, for sure.

I think he's going to be a good offensive coordinator somewhere else.

Yeah.

Back to the players-only meeting thing.

If guys aren't showing up to their players-only meetings, it's quite possible that they've just overdone it on the players-only meeting.

That's true.

Because they had one before the season started, I think.

Yes, and so very early.

It sounds like they're scheduling more meetings on a weekly basis, and then people just stop attending them.

That's very relatable across any business in the world.

It's like, yeah, if you do too many meetings, people are going to check out on it.

Maybe get better snacks at your meetings.

How about that?

Or do them?

They should be emails.

Ice cream machine.

Yeah, ice cream machine, or just get like an email thread going.

Or just, yeah, just say free ice cream at the players-only meeting and trap them.

Do you think that any players in the NFL have like a Slack channel No.

With their teammates?

No.

You think that's something that's ever existed?

No.

I bet you one weirdo coach has tried it.

No.

I could maybe see a WhatsApp.

Yeah.

Marlin's man keeps trying to get me to go to WhatsApp.

I don't know why.

Encrypted.

Well, he, after Friday night's 15-inning game,

he offered me exclusive rights to

the video that he took.

And then he took the game-winning hit video from his seats.

He offered me exclusive rights.

And then he said Darren Revelle also wants it.

So I was like, he can have it.

It might just be me.

I saw it on TV.

I think the second Marlins Man is better.

Have you seen the other one?

The Asian one?

Yeah.

I think he's better.

I think he's better Marlins.

Do you think the Asian Marlins Man is doing it to steal his style, or do you think Marlins Man

hired him so that everyone just remembers to talk about Marlin's Man?

Although that's not what he's doing it for.

He's not doing this for people to talk about him.

He's doing it because he loves the game.

I think the other guy had the idea completely independently of Marlin's Man.

But

would you be shocked if I told you our Marlins Man was like, I can't make it to every game.

I need a representation at every game?

I would think that the backup Marlins Man that he would send out on the road would be probably not a male and would probably have like a low-cut

Marlin shirt.

I do like that it's an Asian guy just sitting there.

Yeah,

that guy's better.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, so he has been with him.

So, yeah, maybe he did hire him.

Is that the one?

He's been spotted with him.

Now, is that the same guy?

Yeah, on the left.

But are we sure that's the same guy that's in the other picture?

I'm assuming.

I don't know.

They're both blurry pictures, but how many people are willing to do this?

It's small.

Yeah.

It's a small sample size.

I would imagine.

He started a franchise fan movement.

You can buy into it.

Like, he makes you pay $500 for the kit.

The royalty.

Oh, man.

Yeah, I don't know where the Dolphins go from here.

I think they need to spend, do the opposite, have no meetings whatsoever.

Mike McDaniel would be the only coach that I could see saying, like, we're just not going to practice.

Yeah.

Let's keep you guys fresh.

Just show up on game day.

Let's see what happens.

Playing

the Dolphins and Browns next week.

That's going to be a fun one.

Yeah.

That's going to be a real fun one.

Okay.

Next up, Patriots 25 Saints 19.

Hank.

Yep.

How you feeling?

Feel great.

Drake may look great.

Drake may look great.

Three touchdowns.

Booty back in Louisiana had two big scores.

Beat Saints, beat the refs.

Yeah, what was happening with the refs?

Something was happening with the refs.

Just there was an egregious pass interference called on Stephon Diggs that negated a touchdown.

That was called, they released, like, the Patriots scored, celebrated, went to the sideline, and then the flag came in after.

They released, like, they put up the replay of the all-22.

The ref didn't throw the flag until, like, after the touchdown was scored.

And then when you see the replay, it was just not pass interference at all.

And then on back-to-back plays, they called offensive pass interference on Diggs again on a catch down the sideline, which was not offensive pass interference.

And then on the very next play, the ref was looking at Matt Collins, like getting his arm dragged down on the sideline, and they didn't call that.

So I don't know.

There was something weird going on with the rest.

But you survived.

It sounded like they had it in for Stefan Diggs.

Yeah.

It was a very strange pass interference call, I think.

It was.

It was like five yards past the line of scrimmage.

They both made contact with each other, and it's not like he was displaced or anything.

And they called it late?

And it was late, yeah.

So, yeah, you guys did overcome a lot today.

Clearly, the better team.

I thought that Spencer Rattler didn't look that bad, though.

No, yeah, they were moving the ball.

Yeah.

Are you a little nervous that Drake May dipped below 70% completion percentage today?

No.

Okay, he was at 69.8.

That's all right.

Yeah.

Drake May was was going to have off-games.

Drake May.

Drake May looks really good.

He's standing in the pocket, just throwing it downfield.

There was that one play, I think it was negated from a penalty where he threw like an absolute dime and someone was holding onto his jersey.

I love when that happens.

Yeah.

The elastic of the jersey.

It's stretched out so far.

It's very funny.

Yeah, Drake May joins Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, and Dan Marino is the only QBs aged 23 or younger with 200-plus pass yards and 100-plus passer rating in five consecutive games.

It's exciting.

It's exciting times.

He also,

the Patriots have tied their win total from the last two seasons

through six weeks.

And our schedule, our schedule is just, it's so fun to look at.

Yes, it is.

It's wide open for you guys.

It's crazy.

Our schedule, I think I saw a graphic.

There's like one team out of the bottom 10 in the NFL that we're not playing.

Yeah, no, if you guys,

if the Patriots split the Falcons in Bucs,

there's a very good chance that they're 9-3

if you look at their schedule.

Their next six games, they're playing the Titans, the Browns, then they have the Falcons Bucks, Jets, Bengals.

If you win one of the Falcons Bucks, yeah, 9-3 feels very doable.

There's a very good chance that the Patriots win 11 games this year.

Maybe 12.

It's definitely possible.

They could maybe be the best team on this podcast.

He's back.

If they win those 12 games, though, what's going to happen is they'll go into the playoffs and and then everybody will just be talking about their schedule and they'll say, we don't know if the Patriots are good.

That's fine.

I mean, I'm used to that.

Everyone hates us because they.

It would have been fun if they had lost to the Bills last week and they just had, they went like 10 or 11 wins, never beating a team over 500.

That would have been fun discourse.

They kind of robbed us of that.

That would have been very fun.

That's fucked up that Drake May robbed us of that narrative.

It would have been a very fun narrative.

What if Hank was right about the passing of the torch game?

What if Drake May is just.

You're terrified of that.

What if it's just

so, Hank?

I did find myself actively rooting against Drake May for the first time today.

That's fucked up.

It's never happened.

I would never do that.

And yeah, so there is a part of me that's like Drake May might be legit, legit.

And it has less to do with my quarterback, but more to do with the fact that I don't think that America is ready to handle Patriots fans with a big ego again.

But it has a little to do with your quarterback.

Yeah, tiny, tiny bit.

Yeah.

And when I say Patriots fans, can I tell you?

When I say Patriots fans, I mean specifically Hank.

America's not ready for Hank.

Can I tell you?

Can't exist.

Can I tell you how

much GFT?

Because I lived this.

How much and Karen and you hate it?

I lived this for the entirety of last year.

It starts with just a little, like,

I'm rooting against him silently, and then you're rooting against him more, and then you just kind of give up.

Like, I had to give up with Jaden.

Yeah.

I was like, he's just good, and I'm not going to fight it.

Like, there's nothing you can do.

Yeah, I know.

So we're probably a few weeks away from you being like, yeah, Drake May is just really good.

But I've realized that when I was rooting against Drake May, it was purely because I don't want Hank to be successful.

Yeah.

We've had enough of that.

Look at him.

Look at his smile.

We've had enough.

America

can't deal with it.

It's like Hank took a quick four-year nap and he wasn't.

Listen, rebuilding his heart.

Rebuilding his heart.

I know.

No, no, you're rebuilding.

Chime in, memes.

Hank was in a sports.

He's talking to you right now.

Hank knocked himself off.

Talking to me and you.

Well, it's put him sad when your team

comes out and loses, and the expectations are.

Talking to the two of us.

It's like you got to just stick with them and trust the process.

And, you know, there's light at the end of the the tunnel.

And I'm living proof of that.

Your rebuilding process was you just checking out on sports.

I don't understand.

No, you have to.

I've been here every Sunday for the last four years.

In body.

But I'm not going to be able to.

In body, you have.

In spirit, maybe not.

But like, what am I going to do?

We had a couple down years.

I knew that the wins were coming back, and they did.

This is what irritates me is because we have coping mechanisms that we've used in the past to get through those bottom-out years where you sell yourself on a guy, you get all in on something, then you watch everything that you said just explode in your face.

I was all because it's not good.

You never really experienced the pain of a rebuild.

I did Mac Jones after the Buffalo Monday night game.

I was like, we're going to beat them in the playoffs.

Then we got 30 pieced.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's, yeah, it's crazy.

Drake May is good.

It is crazy.

Varable, dog.

Josh McDaniels, dog.

It's fun.

All the receivers, all the press conferences.

Like, that's what's exciting when your team is good.

You know your team's good when you're watching all the post-game pressers, all the recap videos.

And the Patriots wide receivers just love Drake May.

They just can't stop talking about his leadership and how everyone would die for him.

Let's all remember that

we're having this conversation after a six-point win against the Saints.

Well, it was basically 15 because of the refs.

And we covered it.

We covered it.

We covered it.

It's the Saints.

Did you cover on Thursday?

There you go.

Hank, would you like to address

who who was the guy who pointed out?

We should shout him out.

The hater sweater

that you apparently have.

It's good to have.

So, who was this?

It's good to have in my arsenal.

AWL, incredible eye by this AWL.

He realized that Hank was wearing the exact same sweater when the Phillies got eliminated.

This was

what year were they?

2023.

This is from Karen 8263.

Shout out that guy.

Incredible eye.

He said, just noticed Hank is wearing the same sweater today he wore when the Phillies lost the NLCS in 2023 as well.

I actually, I saw that tweet and I initially got mad.

I was like, we should have made Max sit on the couch on Thursday night, but he might have killed him.

That would have been things.

He needed to be behind the glass like a gorilla.

But yeah, Hank.

Gorilla.

Yeah, gorilla.

He shot a gorilla.

But Hank was the sweater is also a very funny sweater to have as your hater sweater.

Yeah, well, I think, honestly, I was thinking about it because it 100% was probably the same situation.

Like, it was kind of a nice, crisp fall night.

Yeah.

And that's like, all right, it's fall time.

Let's bust out the sweater.

Same time of year.

Will you be donning it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But, but you, you have to pick it wisely because you, if Max wins with you in the

hater sweater, he kind of negates it.

I was rooting for the Phillies.

I wanted the Phillies to win, so I wasn't even against it.

It was an unintentional hater sweater, but now it's just a full.

Look at his smile.

This is like two years have passed and it's just we're doing the same thing.

I don't think that Hank should be allowed to put the hater sweater on after a bad loss when he's on the couch.

I think he's got to call his shot with that.

You got to wear it that day.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

By the way, the Saints.

Can we talk about the Saints real quick?

What do you say, Max?

Do you think that person just watched the sadness that I had on Thursday night and was like, I need more of this?

Let me go back and find more sadness.

It's either that or your sadness moments are incredible.

Oh, they just had a pitch lateral play.

Your sadness moments are very memorable.

It's sick and it's perverted.

I mean, all of ours are, but yours especially, especially with the overalls and the pigtails, it's something special.

The AWLs, it's Christmas for the AWLs.

You know that.

I mean, just goes, yeah, you're a relevant loser.

Just won a Super Bowl.

I know.

I know.

I know.

I know.

So you're a relevant loser?

Yes.

Like, he's an irrelevant loser?

Yeah.

It's like both ends of the spectrum.

He got both ends of loser.

Yeah.

He just won a Super Bowl.

I do want to talk about the Saints real quick.

I got something.

I'm going to say something crazy.

You ready?

I kind of am starting to like Spencer Rattler.

That's what I was saying.

He didn't play bad at all.

No.

Spencer Rattler, he's got to be the best quarterback to start out 0-10 of all time.

I don't think it's close.

Derek Carr.

Yeah, I think Derek Carr.

I mean, Spencer Rattler could get there, but Derek Carr.

Yeah.

Derek Carr.

But Spencer Rattler, like Chris Olave had a bunch of drops, that fumble by Juwan Johnson when they were trying to drive to maybe win the game.

Spencer Rattler didn't play bad, and he had a couple, like,

there was one pass he made that was a perfect pass that just was dropped in the end zone.

Like,

I

Spencer Rattler might be okay.

I don't know.

It's hard to make a case for a guy who's 1-11

all-time as a starting quarterback, but I think I'm ready to make that case.

I think I'm ready to say that I like Spencer Rattler.

I think it's because we saw the other options that the Saints had at quarterback.

Yeah.

And then we see Spencer Rattler, and we're like, yes, that guy looks like he knows how to play the position somewhat.

Yes, yeah, I think that's fair.

That's actually very fair.

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Okay.

Steelers 23, Browns 9.

I feel really bad for Browns fans at this point.

I mean, it's already, it's just this, they watch the same game every single week, and it goes the same way, and it just doesn't change.

And it's so brutal to watch.

And every time they, they have a rookie quarterback, you're like, I I hope that they do something different with this guy.

I hope they protect him.

I hope that they move him along in a way that makes sense logically and

put him in the best possible position to not get the soul sucked out of him before he plays too many more games.

And then they send Dylan Gabriel out there and he throws 50 times.

Yeah.

They make him throw the ball 50 times.

What was his exact stat line?

Let's see.

I don't have it in front of me.

And he was trying to throw a lot of interceptions.

There were so many.

He was.

So many dropped interceptions.

52 pass attempts for just 221 yards.

It was, so I looked it up

in terms of what happens with the Browns in every single.

Oh, that was bad.

That was bad for the over, Hank.

What the fuck was that?

What was that?

Just threw it away on fourth down.

Oh, no, it was a timeout.

There you go.

All right.

Here's the Browns games this year.

You ready for this?

First half, down by four, lost by one.

This week one.

Week two, down by seven, lost by 24.

Week three, their one win.

They were down by three, they won by three.

Week four, they were down six, lost by 24.

Week

five, they were up three, they lost by four.

Today, they were down six, lost by 14.

The game starts.

The Browns' defense keeps them in the game,

keeps it close.

They have not been trailing by more than a touchdown in any of the games they played this year in the the first half.

And then the second half goes, and the defense gets tired, and they just keep hammering them, hammering them, and they lose by a margin.

And it happens every single week, and it's absolute torture to watch if you're a Browns fan because you basically watch an entire half of football.

You're like, wow, this team, this defense, oh my God.

That was the funniest touchdown.

Yes, yes, yes.

Oh, hey, that's winning.

Jared Goff scored the first touchdown.

He had first touchdown, Jared Goff.

And he caught it passing.

What was it?

90 to 1.

90 to 1.

Sue myself.

God damn it.

We're in for a long fall.

Oh, my God.

This is going to be such a long fall.

He just can't stop winning.

Dude, oh, my God.

What'd you win?

He almost dropped it.

Oh, my God.

You didn't even see it.

150 to win 13k.

Oh, my God.

Anyone who hates anyone on this podcast except Hank, it's in the wrong direction.

Yeah, come on.

Hey, yeah.

that's crazy.

Good for you, Hank.

I'm happy for it.

Thank you.

No, you're not, but thank you.

No, what do I care?

I didn't have it.

Who's in the Hungry Dog this week?

Hungry Dog lost with the.

I don't bet first touchdown squins.

I just don't.

I can't.

I did say it when we were.

Yeah, no, you did.

No, I'm not mad at you at all.

That's an unbelievable hit.

The way it happened, too, that the timeout and then that pass play.

It sucks for it's one more touchdown taken away from the Lions among Ross St.

Brown, the AWLs that we keep fighting for.

But Hank keeps that too, and the over.

Hank keeps winning.

Points Bonanza.

I bet the ultimate's over.

Points bonanza.

AWLs, you'll just have to win.

I do every Prime Night football game, both quarterbacks first touch up.

Oh, there's a flag.

Stop.

Oh, no.

There is.

Stop.

This would be so funny.

Oh, no.

It's an illegal shift.

Oh, no.

Oh, no, Hank.

Oh, no.

It's fourth down now.

Did you tweet?

No.

Wow.

That's bullshit.

That was so late.

That was so late, Hank.

Keep the shift on.

I hate that this is all being recorded right now.

Oh, my God.

Oh,

what was illegal about the shift?

I don't know.

And that flag was so late.

Oh.

Excuse this, Hank.

Memes Max, you want to chime in?

I just keep telling me to zoom in closer on his face.

That was so perfect.

How this whole, that was a nice ebb and flow of pardon my take right there.

Hank, that means that it's still alive, though.

It is still alive, Hank.

Yeah, they're going to kick a field goal.

Pat Mahomes might get it.

Jared might get it.

Whatever.

Talk to us, Hank.

It was a long shot.

I mean, that was so late.

That was a six-year-old.

Wait, no, wait.

Wait, they're going for it.

They're not kicking a field goal.

What if they just run the same?

This is why I need to stop betting

any Lions game for four field goals.

Also, the fucking TVs in the studio.

Oh, man.

We got to keep.

This is people.

We were like, holy shit.

What just happened in the last, imagine if he does it now?

I mean, Hank's reaction was, I've never seen him react like that to a play.

Yeah.

I mean, that was $150,

$13K.

It's insane.

Even the Derek Watt, TJ Watt bet.

That's insane.

And you know, that was like a perfect play they had drawn up.

Oh, there's another flag.

They're going to kick it off.

Now they got to kick it.

Now they have to kick it off.

Okay.

Okay.

All right.

Steelers-Browns we're talking about.

Steelers 23, Browns 9.

The Browns just do the same thing every single time.

It's brutal.

And Dylan Gabriel,

I don't want to trash him because it's his second start.

I don't know if he's the guy, I'll say.

Is that fair?

I would say it's impossible to know if he's the guy.

It's impossible to know, but I haven't seen any guy stuff.

The lefty.

The lefty lefty and short.

When lefties do bad things, it looks worse.

And Brian Fleur's put in my head that he's too.

Yeah, but 52 attempts.

Nobody was going to be successful with this.

No.

Nobody was.

No.

And the defense for the Browns, yeah, they played good.

They didn't get any sacks, though, today, which is tough because that's really how they can stay in these types of games and possibly win them, is if they're able to get to the quarterback.

They didn't do that at all today.

Aaron Rodgers looked pretty good.

He looked really good today.

Yeah, that throw to DK

on a nice vintage.

And I throw to Connor Hayward for the touchdown, vintage Rodgers off-platform.

Like, he looked good.

The Steelers should just pass the ball to Darnell Washington every down.

He's, dude,

he passes the ball in open space.

It's scary.

I don't care that he's slow.

No one's ever boxed out a glacier before.

Right?

Yeah.

Like, he can just go out there, throw the ball in the air, he'll catch it, and then he'll take two guys with him and get an extra three to five yards afterwards.

It's crazy watching him run down the field with the ball.

Like, he is the biggest football player that I've ever seen.

Yeah.

And he can catch.

And he can catch.

Most of the time.

Most of the time.

Yeah, and he's a devastating block.

These fans are so big.

When they have him on the field, it's like, yeah, he will block the shit out of you.

And then when he's not blocking, he's going to be open because he's always open open because no one's big enough to guard him.

Yep, they can just get him the ball.

Yeah, I the Steelers might be the team

that I think they're good, but I don't fully know yet.

We'll see when they start playing, maybe some other elite teams.

But what the Steelers do have,

Aaron Rodgers is their best quarterback they've had since Big Ben got injured, and they have a stranglehold on the AFC North right now.

They are

4-1, and the Bengals, who are now starting Joe Flacco, are the second-placed team at 2-4, Browns, Ravens, 1-5.

That's a significant lead early in the season.

So it feels like it's their division to lose.

Would you not agree?

I would agree with that.

I feel like they are thinking about the Ravens.

I'm not saying the Ravens are going to do it and come all the way back, but if you were to ask a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, like, hey, are you confident in your chances to win the division?

They'll say, yeah, yeah, we're confident,

but the Ravens

fill out that.

Yeah, if the Ravens beat them twice, that's you have it right there.

The Ravens are still out there.

But yeah, I think the Steelers are in a good spot.

They've got competent quarterback play.

They've got a true number one receiver, and they've got a solid defense.

Yeah, a good enough defense.

They should have had, you're right, they should have had way more interceptions.

They had zero interceptions today.

It just kept on like

multiple times.

Two or three at least.

Yeah.

And I feel bad for the Browns.

Now 11 straight games, they have not scored more than 17 points.

They just cannot score.

And it's been like this for way too long.

And I don't know, like, I just,

I'm not saying anything new.

It's just, like, it's, it's a special type of torture to not even have, you know, exactly what's going to happen.

They're not going to score 17 points.

They're going to be in the game in the first half.

They're going to lose the game by maybe double digits.

Yeah.

Is it Shador time?

Maybe.

I feel like you don't really have anything to lose if you're the Browns.

Yeah, why not?

Try out everyone.

Yeah.

Bring back Deshaun.

I guess you could say best case scenario, Shador goes out there and he plays pretty good.

Yeah.

And then you could trade him.

Yeah.

Like, you have nothing to lose.

You're not going to make the playoffs.

You're not going to win

probably more than eight games this year at the very best.

Eight.

At the very, very best.

Eight.

Because Stefansky's a good coach.

I still kind of believe in him.

But they're not winning eight games.

They could play 25 games.

They're not winning eight games.

Yeah, you're not a good team.

But

just roll the dice on Shador.

Again, nothing to lose.

Best case scenario, it doesn't work out.

Then you send Gabriel back out there.

You continue to not win games.

You get a better draft pick.

Put Shador out there.

Yeah.

Miles Garrett, do you think he regrets the money at all?

I think during the games, yes.

So he was asked after the game about

what goes through his mind when he watches the Steelers pass rushers get after the QB with a two-score lead he replied must be nice yeah that feels like someone who might be regretting it during the game yeah during the game I'd say like on game day he regrets it when he gets home when he gets into his house and he drives in this very fast car and his robot butler is like let me get your your jacket for you miles he's good and then he's got another robot butler that that like sets up his halloween decorations for him he's like this is pretty good yeah this is i'm i'm living okay uh but yeah so

i yeah i have nothing else on the Browns.

And the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers, like he's showing that

he might have some vintage Aaron Rodgers left in him.

And with that defense,

it could be.

I mean, they should win the North.

They should win the North.

Do you think that if

you took the best players on the Jets and the best players on the Browns and you made a 53-man roster out of those 53 guys?

The Bretts?

The Bretts.

Yeah.

I like the Bretts.

The Neveland.

Yeah.

The Neveland Brett.

No, the New Cleveland Bretts.

The new Cleveland Bretts.

Do you think that they could go 500?

Who starts a quarterback is the obvious part of the

hard part.

That's the obvious question.

Maybe Deshaun.

I don't know.

Billy Snappy.

I'll say Stefancy coaching.

Yep.

The new Cleveland Bretts, I think they could.

I don't know.

I feel like the defense would be good.

Memes.

Because it's all the best.

The defense would be nasty.

It's all the browns.

The defense would be nasty, and they would get Garrett Wilson on offense, which would be really nice.

But who's going to throw him the ball?

Who's going to throw him the ball?

If I read this list of names to you, who would you rather have throwing the ball?

Justin Fields, Dylan Gabriel, Shadur Sanders, Tarod Taylor.

Yes.

I think Tarad Stayers.

I think Tarod could get him to nine wins.

The new Cleveland Bretts with Tarod Taylor's starting quarterback could get nine wins.

I'm in.

I'm in.

Who starts from the Jets' offensive line?

Membu.

Okay.

I'd probably put Joe Tittman at center.

I don't know who the Brown center is.

Yeah.

We could find it.

We could make this work.

You'd have depth.

You'd have crazy depth.

You could actually just rotate offensive line.

Our defensive line, too.

Yeah, yeah.

They'd have a nasty rotation on defense.

Okay, well, we were talking about the Ravens.

Let's talk about them.

Rams 17, Ravens, three.

This was an ugly, ugly first half game

where it was 3-3 at half.

The Ravens actually were in it.

They had a goal line situation where they decided, and I know we're of the standpoint that Derrick Henry's not good in short-yarded situations, but they went tush-push twice.

Yep.

It didn't work.

With Mark Andrews.

You shouldn't do the tush push if you don't know how to do the tush push.

It's with Mark Andrews.

They've done it before, and it's worked before,

but it didn't really even come close to working this time.

No.

And if you're John Harbaugh,

I never thought that his job was in jeopardy because you can lose when you're banged up and you've got that as the excuse.

Yep.

But you can't do shithead stuff in these losses.

No.

And this qualifies as a shithead stuff.

I would agree.

Like doing it twice,

running the same play twice in a row, that is very obviously a shithead play is the most shithead you can be.

I would also say that starting Cooper Rush instead of Tyler Huntley is a shithead play.

I would agree with that.

I know Tyler Huntley, did he just join the team this week?

Or was he already on the team?

I think he was on the practice squad?

Yeah, I think he's

been around.

Either way, Tyler Huntley got in and he could move the ball a little bit.

Cooper Rush cannot.

And

Derrick Henry actually,

he maybe listens to the podcast because he shut up the haters.

He had more yards in the first quarter than he's had in any of his final totals of games weeks two through five.

He had 50 in the first quarter, ended with 122.

So he's okay.

And Lamar is going to be back after the bye.

Yeah, so the Ravens are going to dominate the bye week.

came at a great time.

I was looking at it.

This might be crazy because obviously their defense is also banged up and their defense is really, really bad.

Well, pretty good showing from them today.

I think the Ravens could be sitting at 6-6.

Even though they're 1-5 right now.

I think they could be sitting at 6-6.

So four teams in NFL history made the playoffs after going 1-5.

Yep.

Last was the 2020 Washington football team.

So it hasn't been done in a little bit.

But this Ravens team,

Xavier Worthy?

Yep.

That's a checkbox.

Bang!

All right, let's start a lot of people.

Come on, Ross.

Let's go, boys.

Let's go.

So it's possible.

I mapped it out for Ravens fans, if you're listening.

So I think they can go six and six.

Unfortunately, the Bears are, my Bears are playing them after the bye week, and I've already circled this as a problem because Lamar is going to come back with big-time revenge of just like, we suck.

Everyone thinks I suck.

I'm back.

So they play the Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals.

That to me looks like at minimum 5-1.

With a healthy Lamar.

Would you guys agree?

At minimum, 5-1.

I think with a healthy Lamar

and like a do-or-die desperation Lamar, like we gotta win.

We have to win right now.

I've seen the Ravens play some pretty bad football this year.

Okay, but they're better than the Dolphins.

They're better than the Browns.

They're better than the Jets, Bengals.

They're better than the Bears.

And the Vikings would be the toss-up.

I think the story might be, yes, obviously, Lamar coming back, but this might be the week that the defense somehow flips a switch.

Okay.

They do something different.

Yeah, all right.

So follow me along.

So I'm saying they're going to go 5-1 in that stretch.

That's 6-6.

Yep.

They then finish the season playing the Steelers twice.

They have Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Packers, Steelers.

If they could find a way to go 3-2 in that stretch, that's a nine-win team.

That might get you in in the AFC.

And the Patriots, they're going to have the one seed locked up by then.

In week 16.

And yeah.

So they're not going to have anything to play for.

Yeah.

So that's a win.

But yeah,

I don't think they're going to go anywhere in the playoffs, but I almost want to bet them to make the playoffs.

Can we look at DraftKings and see what their odds are to make the playoffs?

I've mapped it out.

Now that I've mapped it all out, I'm probably going to be wildly wrong, and Lamar will probably just never come back.

And this will all look really stupid.

My guess is they're probably like plus 150.

Yeah, something ridiculous.

Something stupid, yeah.

Because the AFC kind of falls off.

What is

so?

On the DraftKings sports we're looking up to make the playoffs for the Baltimore Ravens.

Either way, I've mapped it out.

I think the Ravens are still going to be heard from at some point.

There's going to be a moment

when it leads shows being like, watch out for the Ravens.

Like, don't look now.

I don't think it's on there right now.

Okay.

What is it to win the

win the AFC North?

They also don't.

Oh, okay.

That's why I assume it's not in the playoffs either.

The Rams are good.

They've kind of fucked around today.

They kind of played with their food.

Their defense is really good, though.

I know it's Cooper Rush, but

Puka Dakua being out of the game for a while.

Definitely an impact.

And the Rams, like, I was looking at it.

I was like, all right, they beat up Cooper Rush.

Who cares?

And Byron Young and Jared Verse were everywhere all day.

But they also lost to a backup last week.

So it's good that they righted it.

They lost to Mac Jones last week.

They came back and they beat Cooper Rush.

Got the win on the East Coast.

I told you guys on Friday, Sean McVay doesn't lose in these games as favorite on the road.

He always wins.

He most of the time covers.

And yeah, the Rams are good.

So

back to that double tush push that they ran.

They asked Harbaugh about that after the game.

Tell me where this ranks in terms of your coach speak flowchart.

Okay.

They asked him, who made those calls?

And did you have input into making those play calls?

He said, those those are planned calls.

Those are calls that get made.

So he went like.

That's high.

He went past a voice on it.

Those are calls that get made.

That's high.

It's basically being like, we don't know where those calls.

God makes those calls.

Yeah, like AI.

Yeah.

They just come in and we're not going to say who.

They just happen.

That was always going to happen.

There was nothing we could do about it.

Our hands are tied as coaches.

Did anyone ask him specifically about starting Tyler Huntley?

Because Cooper Rush,

since putting on a Ravens uniform, has one touchdown and seven interceptions.

How do you have a team as talented as the Ravens?

And again, they're very banged up on defense.

They were losing games with Lamar as well.

But I don't understand how you have a team as talented as the Ravens and have that much of a falloff to the backup quarterback where his seven interceptions and one touchdown.

So Harbaugh said that the plan was always to play both Cooper Rush and Tyler Huntley in this game.

The dual-headed quarterback.

They're averaging six and a half points per game without Lamar Jackson this season.

That's not good.

No, they've been terrible.

Yeah.

They've been really bad.

But credit to their defense for not playing as poorly as they have.

Yeah.

Like that, I feel like going into this bye week, they can get a little bit healthy.

They might be...

I know it's almost cliche already to say like the Ravens can still do it, but I actually believe it with these Ravens.

Yeah.

I think six and six.

Mark this down.

Six and six.

All right.

So I know going into this week, the Ravens were still the favorites to win the division.

They can't be anymore.

They can't be.

Yeah, they absolutely cannot be.

Although, again, they played the Steelers twice.

Yeah.

And they still have the Browns

one more time.

And the Bengals, the Bengals is what makes it all the Bengals having no Joe Burrows, what makes it all attainable.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Pasco collect $200 when you play them.

Right.

Okay.

Seahawks 20, Jaguars 12.

A rare moment for me where I feel like I knew ball, and I was like, I think we're too high on the Jaguars.

And the Seahawks came in

and took care of business.

It was also one of those games.

We've been talking about the Jaguars.

They are a good team.

Maybe a little too high because they just had the biggest win, regular season win in franchise history, possibly on Monday night against the Chiefs.

And

the turnover regression, they did not turn the ball over.

They did not get a takeaway in this game after having so many in the first five weeks.

Sam Darnold played well.

Seahawks' defense was awesome.

They were blitzing the fuck out of Trevor Lawrence.

Had him,

I think they sacked him seven times.

So, yeah,

I kind of expected this game, but the Seahawks are a good team.

The Jaguars are a good team.

Seahawks, obviously, better today.

There was also a very funny moment when Trevor Lawrence, the cameras caught him on the sideline.

He was like bent over with all of his hair.

like covering his entire face.

I think he learned from last week and was having a pick.

I think he was like, we're going to dig deep and the cameras won't see me when I'm doing this.

But when you look at the Seahawks offense, it's like a very strange offense because they are like boomer-bust, drive to drive.

And they're also exactly, I think they have one, I think they have exactly one more run attempt than pass attempt this year.

Yeah.

They try to go exactly 50-50.

And they either just go three and out.

Or they have a long touchdown drive.

Yeah.

That's kind of what they do.

They don't like mess around too much in between because Darnold throws deep.

If you watch this offense, like they are, they're always throwing it deep to JSN.

I think like 40% of the targets on the entire team to JSN.

And then Darnold leads the league in yards per attempt, too.

Yep.

So he's just, they're kind of a fun offense.

If you time their drives right, if you're like watching multiple games at a time and you catch them at the start of a good drive, you would think that they're the most fun offensive.

If you catch them at the start of a bad drive where they give the ball to Charbonnet twice and he gets like two yards per carry and then they end up throwing incomplete and punting, then you're like, this team sucks.

Yeah, it really is like back and forth with them.

They had that long touchdown to JSN, and they also, I think, were like one for 12 on third downs today.

Yeah.

Yeah, they go three and out a lot.

Yeah.

JSN, by the way, he needs to be, where is he?

Top five right now?

I mean, he's insane.

The year he's having, just the year he's having, he has 696 yards through six games.

Every single week, he's just dominating.

He's got four games over 100 yards.

And one of the other ones was 96 yards and a touchdown.

He's so, so good.

Well, then that, no, the other one was when he had 79 yards.

Remember?

That was, yeah, that was his worst game.

His worst game was four catches, 79 yards.

79 yards.

Yeah.

And that was the Arizona game.

A tough time to have it.

Yeah.

But yeah, he's awesome.

You've said it, PFT, and I looked into it.

The Seahawks at home just aren't good anymore.

Did you know that Mike McDonald,

since he's become the Seahawks head coach, he is 10 and 1 on the road?

I did not know that.

He's 4-8 at home.

He's 10-1 on the road.

That's crazy.

They got to figure out, like, they need to have him staying at a weird hotel or something when they're home.

Yeah.

Do something to make him think he's playing a road game.

Because 10-1 at home and 4 or 10-1 on the road and 4-8 at home for the Seattle Seahawks is insane.

They got to have team buses that pick everybody up, like go to their houses.

Yeah.

Like it's a school bus stop.

Get on the bus, drive to the game together.

yeah stay in a motel i don't know make them stay in the visit change the locker rooms make them stay in the visiting locker room in seattle yeah with something what's going on with that i it's very weird i was shocked when i saw that stat did they stop pumping in crowd noise maybe that might be it yeah maybe they're too focused on the mariners yep also a possibility yeah but yeah the jags were kind of due for a come down to earth moment i think yeah this was that this was it it was and they didn't get and again they didn't take the ball away which they had been living on and uh

you had like some bad penalties, too.

I feel like they had a couple, I feel like they had a good punt return.

They also had a, I think they had a touchdown, a Brian Thomas touchdown that was taken back from a Travis Hunter penalty.

Yeah, Travis Hunter.

So they had some bad penalties that definitely did them in.

Yep.

I still think that they're going to be, the Jaguars will be right in the mix.

Yeah.

Okay.

Panthers 30, Cowboys 27.

We are now in a world where Meow Mix has not been a podcast for two weeks, and the Carolina Panthers are 2-0,

is this, they have to stay retired.

You can't come back in a winning streak.

You cannot come back.

You can't do it.

And not the way that Rico Dowdle's playing.

Rico Dowdle.

It was a seatbelt game.

It was a buckle-up game.

Yeah, so he said that before the game.

He said, it's going to be a very physical game.

I take pride in that.

Buckle your chin strap up.

I will be coming.

Yep.

Rico said that.

I will be coming.

And he came.

And he came everywhere.

And then Jerry Jones talked about it before the game, and he said, I know we're going to have to buckle up,

and our whole team is shaking.

We're shaking in fear of that man.

Of buckling up.

Of buckling up.

But he said, like, to make fun of him, like, oh, yeah, oh, we're so scared of Rico Dowdle.

Yeah.

Rico Dattle went out there, and he had 239 total yards, franchise record.

Yep.

Christian McCaffrey had 237 yards twice,

but Dowdle beat it by two, and it's also the highest two-game total in franchise history.

Yeah.

Rico Dattle is on fire right now.

I think I saw it.

It was like the record for yards from scrimmage for the Panthers are Ricoh Dattle one, Christian McCaffrey two, Christian McCaffrey three, Rico Datto four.

Yeah.

Also, first undrafted player since 1970 with back-to-back 200-plus yards from scrimmage.

And he also has the most yards from scrimmage against a former team in history.

That's very good.

That's awesome.

That's very good.

He backed it up.

He talked his shit.

He backed it up.

After the game, he said they wasn't buckled up.

They weren't buckled up.

They were not buckled up.

They were not ready for Rico Dowdle.

No.

Yeah.

The Panthers are undefeated at home.

Speaking of teams that are good and bad at home, the Panthers just took the Seahawks' magic.

Yeah, they did.

Because they look completely different at home.

Yeah.

And the Panthers' run defense was awesome.

They completely shut down Javante Williams.

George Pickens has made himself a lot of money in C.D.

Lamb's absence.

He had nine catches for 168 yards and a touchdown.

I love when he ⁇ we we talk a lot about George Pickens, but when he has the ball running down the sideline and he knows he's about to get tackled and he does like, he almost belly flops on a defender.

Yeah.

He's like, I'm just going to get airborne.

Well, he jumped the guy.

Yeah.

And then that's very dangerous when Pickens does that early in a game because you know he's going to try to do it again.

Yeah.

And then he tried to do it again and got pretty much hit in the nutsack.

And was like, okay, I shouldn't do that anymore.

But yeah, he switches hands with the ball so often when he's running.

It's like every other step.

It's like he's dribbling.

He's like, I don't want to travel.

And then he'll like palm it out, hold it it to the side, like almost taunt a defender to go for the ball.

And then that makes the defender miss him because they're going for the ball.

He's a fucking psychopath out there, and I love watching him play.

If I were George Pickens, I would think about going back to the Cowboys.

Yeah.

Because him and Dak have a good thing going on, and the Cowboys' offense is great.

Obviously, the exception being the Russian game this week, but like the Cowboys' offense is very, very good.

Well, that was where I was going with this game:

you can't blame Dak and the offense when their defense is such ass.

And it is ass.

Rico Daddle just ran right through them.

Every single time he looked up, they were just getting chunk gains right in the Cowboys' face.

But this was a very winnable game for the Cowboys.

They had it inside the 10-yard line, had to settle for a field goal.

And then with eight minutes left, they got the ball around midfield and went three and out and lost eight yards, never got the ball back.

So like

the defense sucks.

The offense needed to make a couple more plays to win this game, and they were right there.

Like, they had the chance to make those plays, and they couldn't make those plays, and that's why they lost.

So, they punted the Panthers got the ball back with six minutes, seven seconds left in the game, and they just went downfield and kneeled out, I think, the last two snaps to kick a field goal and win it.

So, they went at 30-27.

It was 27-27, six minutes left.

Cowboys didn't touch the ball from that point on.

And Bryce Young,

when his team was behind in this game, when the Panthers were trailing, Bryce Young had a perfect passer rating.

Wow.

125 yards and three touchdowns when they were losing.

Pretty good.

Good.

Pretty good.

Starting to look a little good.

And as depressing as Bryce Young looks when he's not playing well,

he's got that much joy when he's winning.

He's like the happiest guy on earth.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I'm happy for the Panthers.

The Panthers are 3-3.

How about that?

The Panthers are 3-3.

This goes more to my saying, Hank, you scoffed at me.

There aren't bad teams in the NFC.

Like, the NFC does not have...

They have

not great teams.

They have some bad-ish teams, but everyone's...

I mean, the Saints are the worst team, and they're frisky.

Yeah, it's a better conference for sure.

Yeah, it just feels like top to bottom.

I mean, the Panthers are 3-3, and you would put them in their bad category.

It's a tough, tough conference.

Who do the Panthers have coming up?

I don't think this Hank would classify the Saints as being a bad team, though.

Yeah.

Oh,

the Panthers have the Jets next week?

Ooh.

So.

Would the Panthers go above 500?

That's an interesting game.

They suck on the road.

They stink on the road, and they're going into Met Life.

But the Jets suck.

This is going to be a must-win for the Jets.

Right, Memes?

I mean, I know you want to lose games and you want to get a better draft pick.

This is a game that you have to this game.

Their schedule

is easier as it goes on.

So it's like Panthers and they play the Bengals.

So

I think

every game's a must-win going forward.

Whose lines it anyway?

Panthers

at Jets.

DraftKings Sportsbook.

It might say Panthers minus two and a half.

I'd say Panthers minus one and a half.

I think it might be Pick'em.

On the DraftKings Sportsbook.

Oh, the Jets are favored.

Wow.

That's going to change.

Why?

My computer model totally disagrees in my head.

Why?

Why are they.

The Jets are favored, memes.

I think the Jets will win.

I've been saying that for like four weeks straight.

But I think this is the one.

I think, you know what?

Yeah,

this is the one.

This is the one.

Yeah, memes, you're going to win this game.

You're going to win this game.

You're going to win this game, memes.

Look at it.

Look us in the eyes.

You're going to win this game.

You're going to win this game.

I don't think so.

It's the Panthers, dude.

It's the Panthers on the road.

It's Panthers on the road.

It's Panthers on the road.

Meowmix.

Yeah, Meowmix, yeah.

Oh, they might.

If they do a podcast, we have to unload on the Jets.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's a fact.

Their bet did not hit, unfortunately.

We'll try again next week.

They needed Tet to get 70.

He got two touchdowns.

Yeah, he got two touchdowns.

But yeah, it didn't get 70.

Okay.

Last early game.

Colts 31, Cardinals 27.

The Colts are just fucking good.

I don't know what else.

I feel like people are waiting for the shoe to drop.

The Colts are 5-1.

The Colts have scored 30-plus in four of those five victories.

They have 194 points through six weeks.

That's most by any Indy team ever.

Peyton Manning played on some really good offenses.

Daniel Jones has 1,500 yards, 12 total TDs.

Tyler Warren has 370 yards, three TDs.

Jonathan Taylor has 600 yards, eight total TDs.

Their offense is awesome.

The Colts are good.

They just need to stop having warm-ups where everyone gets hurt.

Yeah, they had two guys get knocked out in warm-ups.

So bizarre.

They had a concussion for Trevarius Ward, which was

brutal.

A tight end ran into him when he was back there fielding passes.

I don't know what the drill was exactly, but for the tight end at least.

But Trevarius was doing like DB drills, and then a tight end sprints off the sideline for some reason and just targets him, just goes like head to head, knocks him out for the the game and then obviously anthony richardson was uh he he got his orbital bone broken doing a band exercise in pregames so yeah he wasn't going to play today either i feel bad for anthony i do too that's brutal i feel bad for him he basically got a rubber band snapped in his eye yeah that's a terrible terrible injury it's got to be a painful painful injury yeah this is why you should never work out never

Especially with bands.

You might get hurt.

Because that's like the fad now.

It's like, I don't lift.

I do bands.

Yeah.

No.

But on the Cardinals side of it, did you know the Cardinals, they've lost four games by a total of nine points?

Yeah, because remember they were the first team ever to get walked off field goal three weeks in a row.

Three weeks in a row.

And so, yeah, they've lost, it's by a total of

this is, it's crazy.

I feel so, I feel bad for the Cardinals, or at least for their fans still.

But it just seems like this is a dead man walking situation for you.

Because you could make the argument if you you lose close games, you can make the argument sometimes we're not that far away.

We're close.

But if you keep losing close games, that's usually a sign of bad coaching.

Yeah.

And if you look at the teams that had the worst, like the most

one score losses last year, you're looking at guys like Matt Eberflus.

You're looking at, I think the Jaguars had a lot of one score losses last year.

The Saints had some one score losses, a bunch of them.

That's usually a sign that that guy is probably not going to stick around very long.

And then on the flip side, if your team consistently wins one-score game, then you talk about guys like Mike Tomlin, Siriani, and Dan Campbell, and Andy Reid.

So I think that things are not going in a good direction for Gannon, especially the fact that

his owner fined him $100,000.

Yeah.

Looks bad in front of the team, probably.

He shouldn't have done it, but having the owner be like, hey, guys, I got your back.

I'm going to find your head coach.

Yeah.

Also, probably not great.

Like, you had a chance.

Jacoby Brissette, we've talked about him a million times.

We like watching him play.

You always have a chance on his first start, I feel like.

That's when he's the best version of Jacoby Brissette.

Then it just slowly goes down.

He had 320 yards and two touchdowns.

It's been 34 games,

almost three years, since Kyler Murray has had

over 320 yards and two touchdowns.

Yeah, that would be...

A very depressing, good game for Cardinals fans.

Yeah.

To be like, yep,

this is what this team can look like.

Because the Colts are a good team.

And for them to compete with Jacoby Brissette, you're like, wait a second.

That looked like football.

Yeah.

By the way, the open roof shot they did was so sick.

That was.

I think they were honoring, I think they were like doing something special for G Merce today.

Or is that the one where they zoomed in real quick?

Yeah.

They did that when the tight end on the Cardinals got hurt.

I think he was trying to just get us off.

But they're like, look at the sweet ass stadium.

And for a second, I was like, that's awesome.

Immediately forgot about the injury and was like, oh, wow, that's so cool.

And I don't know what configuration they had it in today, but it reminded me of that game that the Colts had against the Chiefs where Sky Moore got blinded by the sun and fucked it up.

That sun is a weapon in Indy.

Big time.

Shadows are tough.

If you can time it out right, that sun is going right into your face on the field.

Yeah.

The Colts haven't been 5-1 since 2009.

Super Bowl year.

They're good, man.

They're good.

Again, I think people are just waiting for it to not work, but I think they're just really good.

Yeah, what's Daniel Jones' contract right now?

I think he got 40 million, I want to say.

No, no, no.

That was shit.

No, because he had to.

Oh, he did?

Yeah, I think so.

I was looking up stuff before, and I forgot that that was.

I didn't mean to do that.

Thankfully, the guys in the booth are not listening right now.

Yeah.

So that's good.

James would take that personal.

Yeah, he would definitely get mad at me for that.

But they're not listening.

So

literally, no one.

We're just talking to ourselves right now.

I'm looking at Hank.

I'm looking at the podcast.

Literally, no one's literally what this podcast is.

We're just having a conversation.

Does anyone want to take a good comment?

Anyone want to take a guess what I just said?

Daniel Jones got paid $40 million, which he did not.

Who did?

I don't know.

No.

Yeah, no,

I thought he got paid $40 million.

Then I remembered that I think that's what Justin Fields is getting paid.

$14 million.

$14 million.

He's going to make a $100.

Yeah, so Justin Fields is a $22 million dead cap.

Yeah.

That's a lot.

That's a lot.

That's a pre-June 1 cut.

Okay, so you just caught him before June 1.

No, I keep him as a backup.

Oh.

So you're going to keep that cap.

A backup what?

QB.

Why not Tarad?

Yeah, Tarad's probably a better backup.

You have a two-year plan, dead cap.

You can't have dead cap.

True, you can't have dead cap.

You know that because you did that one year of Madden.

One year of Madden, and I think there's...

But you didn't even get a chance to get into dead cap.

I think between Aaron Rodgers and Justin Fields, it's like $60 million worth of dead cap.

Got it.

That's a lot of dead cap.

That's a lot of dead cap.

But yeah, Daniel Jones is going to get a shitload of money this off.

Hopefully he stays with the Colts.

That'd be fun.

I would assume they will try to do that.

And

I feel like he took a little less money.

So maybe

he just wants to stay on the Colts.

Okay.

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Packers 27.

Bengals 18.

Only three afternoon games.

We were saying

it felt a little off-putting.

The two Monday night games,

also too much.

Yeah.

Also too much.

It's a lot.

It's a lot.

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It's my cool down.

Move my brain down from football moment.

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Bears, Commanders.

You know what's crazy about this game?

The Bears and Commanders are starting the same two quarterbacks in back-to-back matchups.

Yeah.

And I bet you'd probably have to go back to like the year 2000 to have that happen again.

Also, the Bears just only play in Washington.

Yeah.

It's bullshit.

Yeah, that is true.

Someone needs to do something about that.

We'll fix it.

We'll get right on it.

Thank you.

All right.

We'll talk a little bit more about that game as we end the show.

Packers, 27, Bengals, 18.

The Packers actually looked kind of shitty in the first half.

Off the bye, a little clunky.

Jordan Love was doing his

impersonation of basically me playing Madden where I don't step up in the pocket.

I just keep drifting, drifting, drifting, and then throw it.

He did that a couple times in the first half.

Then he locked in.

The Packers' offense looked good in the second half.

Matthew Golden's going to be really good.

This was kind of his first, like, oh, shit, this guy.

He had that big catch at the end of the game to basically ice the game away.

And that was the scary part where it's like, yeah, they do have a ton of weapons.

And And when they are clicking, like Jordan Love throwing the deep ball, it just, when it works, it looks very, very good.

It looks very tough to beat, especially when you combine that with Josh Jacobs looking pretty good, too.

Oh, yeah.

Running like super physically.

Monster.

And then Joe Flacco looked like a guy that hadn't been on his team for longer than four days.

For the first half.

Second half, he started slinging it.

He was like, oh, I forgot.

It's Jamar Chase now.

It's not whoever's on the Browns.

I could just throw it in his general area.

And that touchdown catch was just a, I'm going to throw it in his general area and let Jamar Chase beat Jamar Chase.

Yeah, and in the first half, though, there were like guys either running the wrong routes or he didn't know where to go with the ball.

I think Baker screwed it up for everybody.

Yeah.

When Baker went to Los Angeles and started on like 12 hours of learning the playbook.

So earlier this week, Flacco was driven from Cleveland to Cincinnati with the playbook.

He studied the playbook on the way there, then got a little bit of practice in, tried to learn everybody's name, probably still doesn't know everyone's name.

First half, things looked out of sorts.

You saw on the sidelines, they had some backups that were getting a little bit limber on the sidelines.

And I thought that was very rude to Joe.

It's like the guy just got here.

Let him work his way in.

He couldn't get away from the pass rush when it got to him because he's Joe Flacco and he's old.

But then the second half, he just started chucking it.

And when he chucks it, he can still do that.

Yeah.

I mean, the Bengals also, this was not a Joe Flacco problem.

This is the fourth straight game.

They have not scored a touchdown in the first half.

So they've been starting slow.

I feel like that second half, Joe Flacco showed enough for them to be like, hey, we might have a fighting chance here.

Yeah.

Oh, for sure.

A little bit more than what you were getting from Jake Browning.

But this was, I mean, the Packers controlled the game in the second half.

And it was, I was, it was, there was one moment where the second half started as 10-0 Packers, and the Bengals went on like an eight-minute drive to make it 10-7.

You're like, are the fucking Bengals going to do?

Is Joe Flacco going to do this again?

And I bet Packers fans were thinking the same thing because it was kind of the same game script.

Low scoring game, like, you know, keep just hanging around, hanging around, and then the Packers were able to pull away.

And then Joe Flacco just gets straight into every team that's about to play the Green Bay Packers for the rest of the season.

So I got a blind resume for you guys.

Okay.

For this, this is

which QB would you want versus the Packers?

QB1, 361 yards, three touchdowns.

QB two, 319 yards, three touchdowns.

I'm going to guess that they might both be the same guy, Big Cat.

No, they're not.

QB2, 319 yards and three touchdowns is Dak Prescott when he put up 40 on the Packers.

Oh.

QB1 is Joe Flacco versus the Packers.

Two games.

Two games.

Got it.

Yeah.

361 yards, three touchdowns.

That's good because I saw that he threw for 219 today, so I thought there was a transcription error.

No.

Yeah, no, it doesn't matter.

No, Joe Flacco versus the Packers,

361 yards, three touchdowns.

I also might have left out an interception.

Well, yeah, you didn't say, you didn't list interceptions.

Yeah.

You just didn't didn't touch that.

Either guy had it, so it doesn't matter.

Yeah, exactly.

Joe looked great, by the way, in a Bengals uniform.

Yeah.

In the striped helmet, he looked awesome.

Trey Hendrickson going out probably didn't help the cause.

No.

At all.

Is he going to be okay?

I don't know.

I'm not sure what he had.

They have a short week.

They're playing the Steelers.

Jamar Chase is ready for it.

He said after the game, we know the Steelers are going to come in and try to raw dog us and kill us, but we'll be ready for that challenge and waiting for it.

Skin on skin.

They're going to raw dog them.

They're going to raw dog dog them.

Yep.

I have a question for Packers fans.

Are you worried about the pass rush?

Because the Bengals' offensive line is bad.

Joe Flacco is old, and they only sacked him once.

And they only have two sacks in their last two games.

They got in his face, though.

They made him uncomfortable.

They did.

They forced him.

A lot of incompletions.

Yep.

Hit him five times, I think.

But you would expect with Micah Parsons

This is a game going into where Parsons and the rest of the guys were like, okay, let's pat our stats a little bit here.

Yeah.

There's going to be one where everybody should get one.

And I feel like this was a game that the Packers wins a win, but I saw, at least from the Packers fans I follow, they were like, what the hell's going on in the first half?

You're coming off a buy.

This should be, you know,

you started the season hot, and then you had a couple bumps in the road with the Browns game and the Cowboys game.

What's going on here?

Why aren't we killing the Bengals?

And then they did end up kind of killing the Bengals.

So as far as I can see it, Flacco's got two jobs to do on the Bengals.

No one thinks that Flacco is going to lead the Bengals to the playoffs, right?

I'm not ready to say no.

You can hope.

I'm not ready to say no.

But as Americans, here's what we should hope for Joe Flacco.

Two things.

One is

that you keep Jamar Chase engaged enough in this offense to make him still play hard throughout the entire season so that we can all watch Jamar Chase play football and be really good at football because that's that's so much fun to watch.

And also so he doesn't have bad vibes that linger on into next year for the Bengals.

Job number two for Joe Flacco is going to be to make the Bengals watchable in all these primetime and national standalone games that they have.

I think what we saw in the second half was enough for us to kind of take our foot off that holy shit button.

I can't stand to watch this team play.

Yes.

I don't want to.

I'm looking ahead in the schedule four for weeks and thinking how much I'm going to be dreading watching the Bengals as a standalone game.

I think he did enough to make us think things might be okay.

There's always.

It's an important service for America.

I completely agree.

The big difference between Jake Browning and Jake Browning has done some nice things, some not nice things.

We watched that Broncos-Bengals game.

They just couldn't throw the ball downfield.

Joe Flacco's going to throw the ball downfield.

Yes.

If you let him.

Yes.

He will throw the ball downfield.

He will throw it up.

And that's all we ask for and he targeted jamar chase 10 times that's great yeah keep that up joe if you keep doing it if you keep throwing the ball in his in his area thing good things are going to happen for you i do have a problem with something that matt lafleur did though oh he deprived us of history today oh yeah he did called a sneaky timeout yep as evan mcpherson was attempting a 67 yard field goal yep nfl record mcpherson made it bounced it off the upright and went in kind of like uh that was the justin tucker kick against the the lions right yep that set the record.

And then he kicked it again and it landed like five yards short.

Yeah.

And it was returned.

He robbed us.

Robbed us of a moment.

Robbed us of a little history being made in this game.

Yeah.

No,

that was a sick kick.

Like outdoors, 67 yards, just barely, like, it doinked and like basically rolled in.

Skipped.

Yeah.

That did suck.

That would have been cool for Evan McPherson.

You got to, especially a team like the Bengals, like let them have that.

Yeah, give them their moment.

I guess that also would have meant that they

would have been tied when the Bengals did score a touchdown to start the second half.

It's still a sneaky move.

It's beneath it.

It's a sneaky, sneaky move.

It's beneath the Packers' organization.

Yeah, it is a sneaky move.

Okay.

Anything else?

I mean, the Packers are good.

I did think it was weird they came out slow like that, but you know, I guess teams respond differently to

the buy.

Yep.

But who do they play?

Oh, they play the Cardinals.

The Cardinals.

Yeah.

They're going to kill the Cardinals.

That's not going to be.

And then Steelers.

That will be fun.

That'll be fun.

That's bad Steelers.

Yeah, that'll be very fun.

Yeah, that'll be very fun.

There'll be a lot of storylines in that game.

It's a Sunday night football game.

Oh, also.

Did you know Aaron Rodgers used to play for the Pacific?

He did, yeah, a couple teams ago.

So it's also helpful that Joe's playing well because I absolutely hate the standalone games where the announcers make their entire storyline.

Like, this team sucks.

Yeah.

Like, going into it, like, they've struggled a lot, and then they have to try to convince America to get excited about Jake Browning.

Yeah, they're trying to get a lot of money.

Finding like one thing that he's done.

Yeah.

Now you don't have to try to dig for a storyline.

It's like, can Joe do it again?

Yeah.

By the way, I completely forgot to mention one thing.

Did you know that Aaron Rodgers,

his best numbers against any team in the NFL is actually the Cleveland Browns?

I did not know that.

This is more just trying to deflect for what he's done to the Bears.

He's 4-0 against the Browns, 11 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, 124

passer ratings.

Oh, he hates the Browns.

He must hate Cleveland.

He hates the Browns.

Okay.

Raiders 20, Titans 10.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you see any Cam Ward today?

Yeah.

Cam Ward was not great.

He had three turnovers.

And he also had a couple others that looked like turnovers that ended up not being turnovers.

I forgot that Cam Ward was a small hands guy.

Yeah.

It was nine inches.

It wasn't good.

It was not good.

The Tennessee Titans have scored 83 points.

It's week six.

They scored 83 points.

Again, it's week six.

That's not a lot of points for six games.

They also, here's their first half point total in the last four weeks.

Zero points, six points, zero points, six points.

Scored zero points today.

Not good.

I felt really good about taking the Raiders minus three and a half until the very end of the game where it looked like they were about to get the sneakiest backdoor cover of all time.

Well, listen, Cam Ward,

I think he's set up in a really bad spot right now.

Calvin Ridley also out.

Like, he's got nothing.

Yeah.

It is worth noting that he, so in the last two games, he's thrown for 487 yards.

304 of those yards have come on just five drives, the last three of the Cardinals' game and the last two in today's game.

Now, obviously, they won the Cardinals' game, so you can't call it garbage time, but there was a little bit of garbage time before the final couple drives.

So it hasn't been great for the Titans.

Let's just say that.

It's bad.

And to add even to it,

Brian Callahan is 4-19 4-19 as the Titans head coach.

Mike Vrabel has four wins in his new job.

And who are the Titans playing next week?

They're playing the New England Patriots.

Mike Vrabel is going to kick the shit out of the Titans.

Yeah, actually.

Whose line is it anyway?

We should get that right now.

Where is it?

I think it's in Tennessee because I think I saw this stat, and I'm not trying to pile on Tennessee Titans fans.

We know it's bad right now.

Hey, listen, Cam Ward might be good.

We don't know.

It's impossible to know.

He might be good.

Where is it?

It's in Tennessee, right?

It's at Tennessee.

I think that might even be worse.

So whose line is it anyway?

The DraftKings Sports Planet.

I know what it is.

You guys want to guess?

I already bet it for a nuclear earlier tonight.

I'm going to guess

nine

at Tennessee?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Six and a half based on your reaction.

What were you going to say before Hank's reaction?

I was going to say like seven and a half.

I was going to say over a touchdown.

I thought it was going to be over a touchdown.

I thought the same thing, and then I feel like it's going to, I hope the line moves.

Vrabel is

going to be on a mission.

Oh, my God.

And the Patriots are going to be on a mission for Vrabel.

If the Patriots win that game,

Mike Vrabel will have the same amount of wins in Nissan Stadium as a visiting coach as Brian Callahan does.

And he's played a lot more games in Nissan Stadium in the last two years.

He's won one game at home.

Yeah.

So Mike Rabel can tie that.

That would be

wow.

Yeah.

Much like it's impossible to know if

Cam Ward is good or not, I think it's also kind of impossible to know if Ashton Genty's good or not.

Yeah.

Watch this gets fucking smashed on every play.

Watch him run the ball.

It's like he's driving a moped into a brick wall every time.

And there's no way that he can get out of some of these hits that he's taking.

It's impossible.

It's nuts.

Yeah.

The Raiders are not good.

They just played the Titans.

I think

are the Raiders back?

No, no, no.

They just played the Titans.

Yeah.

So, because like Geno, even, my hot take going into this game was Geno is not going to throw a pick.

He threw a pick.

Proved you wrong.

Yep.

Almost made it.

We made it a full half.

He now has 10 picks on the season.

He also had a weird quote.

He said, I told coach that I need to jump into a lake or ocean or something.

It's a lot of bad luck stuff happening to me, but I'm in control of that.

So I don't really understand this quote because one,

Vegas doesn't have any, I guess they do have some lakes.

They got the man-made lake, right?

Yeah, they got the man-made lamb.

The Hoover Dam.

But also, it's a lot of bad luck stuff happening to me, but I'm in control of that.

So, is he

the bad luck?

He can control his bad luck, though.

He hasn't done enough to turn his bad luck around.

But he's like, damn, how'd that interception happen again?

Yeah, no.

Yeah, I threw it.

Yeah, he thinks bad luck is something that is actually like in your own hands.

You can flip it around if you care enough.

Yeah.

He has

not a good town to be unlucky in.

No, no.

So, yeah, but I guess it's good for the Raiders.

They won a game.

Yeah, yeah.

I think they have a gauntlet coming up, too.

This would be a game that you would lose, and you would probably then have no fans coming out to support you at home.

Yeah.

Also, yeah, I would say it's getting Brian Callahan.

It's Brian Callahan, Mike McDaniel.

Let's do coach firings.

Who's the first coach fired?

Hot list.

Brian Callahan, Mike McDaniel.

Gannon's got to be in the conversation.

Gannon.

Aaron Glenn.

Aaron Glenn.

Those are the four.

Who are you guys picking?

I think I'm going with Callahan.

I think McDaniel has been there longer, and it's just gotten worse and worse.

Who's got the bye week first?

Let's see bye weeks.

That's always.

Let's see.

Like, hey, we can fire him right before the bye week.

When does Callahan have his bye?

Yeah, because that will be a big

whenever his buy is.

After the Patriots.

Oh, no.

See ya.

Oh, no.

Oh, no, wait.

I did that wrong.

Nope.

Wrong.

That was a mistake.

No, they have it in a few weeks.

Week 10.

Week 10 is their bye week.

If it was after the Patriots,

it would have been done.

Yeah, so the Chargers.

So what's going to happen is the Patriots are going to kick the ever-loving shit out of him.

And then

he's going to convince them, like, hey, just let me stick around for a little bit longer.

They're going to go to the Colts.

They're going to get smashed by the Colts.

Then against the Chargers.

And then he'll be fired.

All right, so week 12 is the bye week for the Dolphins.

So I think I would

probably have to go Callahan.

Callahan, yeah.

He did say after the game, I'm incredibly discouraged by the outcome.

Everyone is a part of it, including Cam Ward.

Well, he's not wrong, but that's not something that Callahan would have said until he felt real pressure on his team.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's just like,

hey, guys, I don't just suck.

Everyone sucks.

Yeah.

Which he's right.

Yeah, they do.

He's absolutely right.

But again, like, not really an indictment on Cam Ward necessarily.

The fact that Cam Ward sucked today is not 100% on Cam Ward.

Yeah.

This is a brutal game to watch, though, because I feel like every time I looked up, someone was getting sacked instantly, or Geno was just throwing the ball like four feet away from him.

I looked it up because I was like, it feels like he didn't throw anything deep.

He averaged 2.7 air yards per attempt.

He had one pass over 10 yards.

So even on his misses, his passes probably also went like 2.7.

Yeah.

So it was just, it was a tough one to watch.

It was a very tough game to watch.

Now, the Cardinals, they,

Gannon might be a sneaky one.

Oh,

when's their bye week?

I'm not good at figuring out when bye weeks are.

Well, if you just look at it.

Oh, the 19th is against the Packers, and then.

Are you just trying to guess based on the dates?

On the dates, yeah.

But I think I got this one.

I think it's actually, they got one more game and then the bye.

Yes, you're right.

Am I right?

Yeah, they play Green Bay and then they have the bye week.

So, yeah, it could be Gannon.

It could be Gannon.

It could be Gannon.

And, man, listen, I don't root for anyone to be fired.

Remember, these guys have to move their houses.

They have to get paid a lot of money.

It sucks.

Yeah, if Gannon gets fired, there's never been anything that's been more correct than seeing that shots, pew, pew, pew, pew, and being like, nope.

Not a coach.

Like, instantly, nope.

What if Callahan.

Oh, wait, is Gannon?

No, Gannon's defensive, right?

So you wouldn't bring him back.

Yeah.

Yeah, you really.

We need McDaniel.

Oh, do you think you'd bring in McDaniel?

Has there ever been an OC mid-season hiring?

Yeah.

Well, you bring him on as like, what you do is you bring him on as a consultant, and then after a few weeks, you're like, hey, actually, he's going to start calling plays.

Actually, yeah, I think we did that with Patricia.

Yeah.

No, that definitely can happen.

You just ease him in.

You don't just do it right away.

Yeah.

Oh, you got to root.

Yeah, you got to root for

you got to get an offensive guy quickly.

But I feel he'd be more likely to go back to like a Shanahan-McVay type landing spot, right?

Who?

McDaniel.

Yeah.

Unless the Eagles are just like, hey, we could win a Super Bowl here.

We could pay you more.

We got Big Dom.

Got Big Dom.

They don't.

Yeah.

Do you think that if Callahan gets fired, his dad could take his place as head coach?

The reverse Oedipus.

He's still working there, though.

Yeah.

He is?

I think so.

Oh, shit.

Then maybe that would be sick.

Yeah.

And I like Brian Callahan as a guy.

This is a bad situation that the whole thing is.

It's just a bad situation.

I don't know what else to say.

I don't even know if it's Brian Callahan's fault for sucking.

I don't think that it's Cam Ward's fault for sucking right now.

I think that's mostly on Brian Callahan.

But I don't know that it's Brian Callahan's fault that Brian Callahan is making Cam Ward suck.

Right.

Because of the environment.

Yeah, he is.

He is Bill Callahan still is there.

That'd be such a funny thing.

Your son gets fired.

I'll take that job.

Yeah, I mean, I got it from here, son.

What's a lifetime opportunity?

Well, you need a guy who's coached before.

Yeah.

Okay,

last afternoon game, Bucs 30, 49ers, 19, Baker Mayfield.

That's it.

Baker Mayfield.

That's Baker Mayfield.

It's Baker Mayfield.

Like,

I don't want to just distill this game into one play or one drive, but Baker Mayfield.

They don't have the Bucs don't have Mike Evans.

They don't have Chris Chris Godwin.

They don't have Jalen McMillan.

Ibuka was out for the second half.

The third and 14 scramble that Baker had, where you could screenshot it at any moment and be like, he's about to get killed.

And he just somehow found a way to get a first down.

And then I think two plays later, pump fake dime to Tez Johnson, 45-yard touchdown to go up 30 to 19.

Baker Mayfield.

Baker Mayfield, I'm going to let Kevin Durant say it because he said it pretty good.

Hey, Baker, you fucking hooping.

Yeah.

With four exclamation points.

And then he edited that to make it say, hey, Baker, you fucking hooping with no exclamation points.

And somebody said, you decided the four exclamation points were too much glaze.

And Kevin Durant said, yes.

That's perfect.

But it's legit.

Like, I think he probably thought to himself, I shouldn't be glazing him this hard.

He hates Texas.

Yeah.

And so I can't do that to him.

So he deleted the exclamation points but Baker He has now as many rushes for first downs on third down plays as anybody else in the NFL.

That's crazy.

Yeah, so he's tied with Jalen Hurts.

He's I mean, he's so fucking good.

I don't know what to say.

Like I, it's like this team

and and the 49ers are kind of in a similar way where it's like the amount of injuries that the Bucs and 49ers have I think would they would be like if you just played those guys, they would beat the Jets easily.

Yeah, it's crazy to flash back like two years.

Probably beat the Bears, probably beat everyone.

Probably beat the Eagles.

When the Bucs signed Baker Mayfield, they did it because they were like, oh shit, Tom Brady is retiring.

We don't really have that many options.

We'll just let these guys duke it out in training camps, see who's better.

Yeah.

Like Baker was not guaranteed of a starting job.

Yeah.

When the Bucs got him, and now he's legitimately an MVP candidate.

Yeah.

And when he, when he made

an MVP candidate, MVP, he might be a front runner right now.

Look at the odds on drafting.

I mean, he's got 12 touchdowns, one interception.

He just makes big plays.

He also just takes, like, he's always taking shots downfield.

Yeah, he's third in odds.

So it's Josh Allen, Mahomes, and then Baker.

That's crazy.

He's a frontrunner.

And

when he connected with Tez on that deep ball,

did you hear what Tez said about that play afterwards?

No.

He caught it in the end zone, and then he heard the MVP chants, and Tez for a second thought that the fans were chanting MVP for him.

Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah, and they did a flip.

Yeah, and they did a flip, and he freaked out.

And he's like, Oh, yeah, they're probably saying that about Baker.

And they asked Baker after about the flip, and he was like, Yeah, if I weighed 116 pounds or 142 pounds, I'd probably be able to fly too.

Yeah, he's like, I haven't weighed 142 pounds since sixth grade.

Yeah, so the Bucs are fun.

I don't know what else to say.

Like, Baker is must-watch TV, he's awesome.

Their defense, Vita Vey, is a monster.

There was, he it just felt like he was getting a push on every play.

And, yeah,

if they get healthy, they're a dangerous, dangerous team.

As for the 49ers,

this was just like

they won that game on Thursday night against the Rams, emptied the clip.

This is a tough one to get back up for, and Fred Warner getting hurt was brutal.

The ankle dislocation, he's probably out for the year.

They just can't catch a break.

You're going to need to find some more dead bodies every morning for Mac Jones to see.

It's for getting fired up enough.

And then one of their healthy receivers, Juwan Jennings, has five broken ribs and high and low ankle sprains.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, there was a report that Jawan Jennings and Kyle Shana had to be like kind of separated from the sideline during the game.

They were like yelling at each other.

And Mac Jones, yeah, he.

Jawan was probably just like, ouch.

Yeah.

He's like, don't tell me you're hurt, please.

Mac Jones battled.

He had two interceptions.

The first one wasn't really his fault.

The wide receiver just didn't run the route that he was expecting him to run.

And yeah, Kendrick Bourne's good.

It's crazy that the 49ers are able to just have guys be good when a guy gets hurt and it's just like, oh, yeah, Kendrick Bourne's going to rip off 140 yards.

And they look competitive.

Like, the Niners were

competing in this game until the second half when things got a little bit out of hand.

He has a one-score game till two and a half minutes left.

Yeah, so the Niners, I think they'll be fine.

I'm still optimistic about them if they can get healthy.

But that's a big if I've learned about the 49ers.

Because they just keep getting hurt.

And yeah,

it's tough.

How many more Baker - do we have a lot of Baker primetime games?

Because this is where we need the flex scheduling.

They play the Patriots at 1 o'clock.

That's got to get flexed to at least 4 o'clock.

Because of the Patriots?

Both.

MVPs.

Oh, we got...

The Lions next.

Oh, Monday Night Football.

Yeah.

Oh,

another doubleheader.

Damn.

That's going to be the one that we watch.

Yeah.

Oh, they got a few.

They got a Sunday night game, two Sunday night game and a Thursday night games coming up.

So good.

I need more Baker.

Baker, I just want more Baker.

Would you rather have them stagger the starts or do them like back-to-back with Monday night?

Good question.

I like the back-to-back.

Same.

I like to focus on one game.

Yeah.

Especially after a long Sunday where it's just like all the football happening at the same time.

I like having a night where I can just sit, watch one game, watch the next game.

I just saw a lot of people bitching about

being late or whatever.

I mean, it was late, but I would rather be able to focus.

Especially with baseball.

Yeah.

I agree.

Yeah.

Two games, that's probably why they're doing it.

To try to take away from baseball?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

there's two CS games on Monday.

Yeah.

There's two football games.

Damn.

It's a good sports night.

It's a great sports night.

I'm not complaining.

I'm just saying, like, I do like having Monday night football be like a sacred sit-down on the couch.

Now, it does suck when you get Monday night football.

When you get a bad game, it does suck.

I do like the fact that with two games, you have the ability to be like, all right, if one of them sucks, you've got another game to bail you out.

Yeah, but when bad games get bad during Monday night football, they become funny sometimes.

Yeah, right.

That's why I'm actually excited that we have a doubleheader for tomorrow night because if the Bears are bad, it's like, but look at the Bills and the Falcons.

That game's going on.

Sick.

It's a big game.

I know it's a big game, but I'm saying,

the Bears playing on national television doesn't usually go well.

It's not like a sick time where everyone's just like, this team sucks over and over.

I'd say for the Commanders, too.

Like, historically, we've been very bad on Monday Night Football.

Yeah.

And it just becomes a, like, you know it when it's happening in real time when you're like, okay, here comes, you know, open mic night.

For the next four hours, we're just going to get blasted.

Yeah, especially with Joe Buck up up in the booth and for you, because there's like an outside chance that he might take a veiled shot at you.

If it gets out of hand enough,

it gets bored enough.

If it gets really, really bad in the fourth quarter, he might throw something out there that just personally insults you.

I'm looking forward to tomorrow night.

Yeah.

It's going to be fun.

Let's talk about the last game.

Then we'll talk about that and some playoffs.

The Chiefs.

are

going back to at least the AFC championship game, probably the Super Bowl.

Now, so they beat the the Lions 30 to 17.

I said this two weeks ago.

I think there was a quote card that people were dunking on, trying to dunk on me.

I was like, Chiefs are going to go back to the Super Bowl.

Patrick Holmes is going to win the MVP.

There's nothing we can do about it.

That's happening.

That's happening.

You see it.

Their offense is getting right.

Their defense is good.

They even said on the broadcast, they're like, yeah, these guys were telling us in private conversations they feel better about this team at

2-3.

You know, the game was still going on.

at two and three than they did last year about the team that was 10 and one or whatever.

That tells you everything.

Yeah.

They know that they're good.

It's a better team.

It's a better team overall, and

they're evolving, too.

So this is like the wrinkle that I think Andy Reid had been hanging on to for a while.

They're putting Mahomes under center now.

Yep.

And they're handing the ball off and it's working really well.

Yep.

And now they're going to be doing play action.

under center and then Mahomes is going to be like, oh, this game's back on easy mode for me now.

Yep.

Now that I I can do this.

They didn't have to do that before.

There was no need to.

They didn't even have to run the ball if they didn't want to.

But now they're trying to keep teams honest.

And now it's just going to go back to Patrick Mahomes thinking that this game is very simple and everybody else being very frustrated.

Yeah.

And he's just

back to like

every

drop back, he's just...

Either they're perfectly blocking it for him, or if they don't, he just scrambles to the perfect place where he can throw it to.

Yeah.

Like every play is just kept alive at all times with Patrick Mahomes.

I also think that I feel like

the Lions got a little too cute.

Just run the fucking ball some more.

And then they ran the ball too much at the end when they had to make up a, you know, they're still trying to establish the run down a bunch.

But like even the,

we were listening to it.

You heard it live.

The Jared Goff play, like, you have fourth down, just run it one more time right up their face.

You have David Montgomery.

Like you have an awesome offensive line.

Just pound it.

That's what you do, Dan Campbell.

Yeah.

Yeah, I think that the Lions,

were not ready tonight.

No.

The Chiefs were way more physical than they thought they'd be.

Right.

It's not a finesse Chiefs team.

They are very capable of getting muddy with you, getting dirty with you.

And then you pissed Mahomes off, too, when you hit him a little bit late.

Aiden Hutchinson, by the way, looked awesome tonight.

Yeah, he did.

He was in his face the whole time, but he took a couple unnecessary, like, extra step shots at him.

Yeah.

And then you don't want to piss Mahomes off.

But it was just the difference in this game felt like it was the Lions weren't able to convert on those fourth downs that they had.

And the Chiefs were able to just keep doing it, like going down the field.

That was the difference.

The Lions,

when they don't have their fourth downs don't go their way,

this is what can happen.

And Dan Campbell knew coming in, he said they had to score 30 to win.

He was right.

The Chiefs scored 30.

Yep.

They scored 17.

But yeah, the Chiefs are

what are you going to do?

They're awesome.

Mahomes is awesome.

They gave that brief glimpse of like, ooh, they might not be good anymore.

And it was so brief.

And if you fell for it, I'm sorry, but it's just not true.

Do you agree, Hank?

Yeah.

And they like the NFL on their side.

Oh.

They're good, though.

They're very good.

Yeah.

They're going to be just fine.

They'll probably

not get the one seed, and then they'll just, and everyone will make a conversation about how they have to go on the road.

And then Patrick Mones will go on the road, and it'll be fine.

The burden goes into New England, though.

Because with the Patriots schedule, Hank, you guys will probably host a playoff game, host Mahomes, and then you have the chance to just really take the torch away from him, the torch that he took from Tom.

If we really want to take the torch away from him, we take it from him there

in his house.

You want that?

Yeah.

You're going to take it from him in his house?

Yeah, I mean,

they're one game back from, you know, the Broncos and the Chiefs.

Or sorry, in the Chargers they still get to play the Broncos twice

Chargers don't look good anymore or they don't look they're like they did at the start of the season because of injuries yeah the Chiefs played a really really hard schedule to start the season and now it probably is gonna get a little softer although I think they still have some tough games but yeah they're gonna go they're gonna they're gonna be in the NC Championship game you can't fight it just let it go Do you guys agree?

Just let it go.

I think the Chiefs are right now, yes, extremely dangerous.

Yeah.

You're kidding yourself if you think they're not.

Anyone want to disagree?

They're getting Rashi Rice back.

Yeah.

They're going to be good.

They're going to be very good.

Zach, I forgot to ask you, like, how, how, on, like, a level of one to 10, how much do you love Baker?

It's so much fun to watch every Sunday.

You know what I mean?

Not every Sunday, but every time they're on the field, it's so much fun to watch.

And like, you see.

Like a movie comes up with a hamstring and it's like, oh, goodness, this can't be good.

And like, it's like, oh, just next man up.

Like, we'll make this work.

And, like, the defense was so much fun to watch today.

Like, having the one touchdown on the ground, two picks.

The whole team, it just like, it's a great way to spend the weekend.

Yeah.

Watching the Bucks play football.

It's an enjoyable experience.

I hope I get to continue to watch them play football.

What?

Are you going to die or something?

No, just, it's never guaranteed.

I just hope next week we can watch some more football, and we're going to go to Detroit, and they're going to do their best they can do to win another game.

Yeah.

Yep.

Let's do it.

Yeah.

One week at a time, Zach.

That's it.

One day at a time, yes, sir, but one week as well.

How, how nervous

do you get for Bucs playoff games?

Playoff games are very, very nerve-wracking just because over here now.

Like the regular season is good.

You need those reps to get in, but playoff games is like, oh, shit, we might be able to do it.

That's perfectly said.

It's perfectly said.

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Mariners, incredible.

AL.

They're in the ALCS.

They win game one, which was, I thought they were not going to have any chance in game one because on Friday night, they played a 15-inning game against the Detroit Tigers, which was pure torture for those fan bases.

I felt so bad, especially for Mariners fans, because once you start to get to the 13th, 14th inning, you start to remember some other games that have happened there.

You start to think about Houston.

You start to think about Jordan Alvarez.

Yeah.

And it seemed like the vibes were not great in Seattle until they flipped the script.

And this win goes as much to their stadium management crew as it does to the team on the field.

Because T-Mobile Park was a dead zone.

People were just living in fear.

And then they did a second salmon race.

Sir, a second salmon race has hit T-Mobile Park.

Get the vibes up.

And Humpy the Salmon,

a mascot who'd never won the salmon run that they do there, his record was 0 and 162 since they started doing the salmon run on opening day of 2024.

Humpy was going up against King Silver Sockeye.

Never won, but on Friday night, they did a second salmon run.

Humpy won.

Vibes shift entirely.

Next inning, Mariners win.

Yeah.

Pretty incredible time at the ballpark.

And

it was an insane game.

It was one of those games where it got so late you had forgotten that we had watched two insane pitching performances from Kirby and Scoobel.

If you're a Tigers fan, you're just sitting there like, we pulled Skubel again

because Finnegan, who came in for him, gave up a run after Scoobel got pulled in the sixth inning.

He was in 99 pitches.

He had 13 strikeouts.

He is so dominant, but it was the Mariners being resilient.

They found a way to make it happen.

It was just every single, like, there was guys on base, I feel like, in a lot of the extra innings that just, the tension was insane.

I feel bad for the Tigers.

I'm happy for Mariners fans.

Like, they're crying in games.

The crowd is stressed beyond belief.

It was quite a scene.

I saw some people

shaming Mariners Mariners fans for crying when they won.

It's stupid.

Yeah.

Well, no, it was because it wasn't when they won.

There was a guy who was crying in the sixth inning.

Because it was all too much for him?

No, yeah, like they got a, they, like, took the lead or something, or they had a big hit.

That was a big hit.

Listen, it was like the sixth inning.

We should be encouraging guys to

do all these emotional releases.

I agree.

And then tonight.

So they played 15 innings on Friday night and then had to fly all the way to Toronto for game one.

I was like, there's just no way this team is going to be able, like, you just throw this game away and try to get them game two.

And then they take it to the Blue Jays, and they win 3-1, and they're up 1-0 in the ALCS.

It's crazy.

Was it a three-hitter?

Yeah, and they used

a lot of pitcher.

I was actually getting to a point where I was like, if this just keeps going, like, do you...

Do you just run out of pitchers?

Because you just, at some point, you're going to run out of pitchers.

Some of the arms have to be gassed just from the 15-inning game.

Yeah.

And no, I'm saying during the 15-inning game, I was like, are they going to just run out of pitchers at some point?

Because if it went to 25 innings, yeah, what do you do?

I don't know.

What do you do?

I don't know.

The Ghost Runner was supposed to solve this.

Yeah.

They don't do it in the playoffs, which I'm, I'm, I think that's actually a great rule change that basically.

Oh, I love it.

It's like the Ghost Runner in the regular season, awesome.

Yeah.

But don't bring that shit into the playoffs.

Dude, pitch clock, awesome.

Yeah.

In the postseason.

Also, I love

awesome.

I love, I love Senior Smoke.

It's just

such a cool fucking nickname.

Dude, what a moment for him, too, on his birthday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was also funny because were you guys listening to the game at all?

A.J.

Brzezinski was getting so frustrated because they just kept on throwing sliders.

Yeah.

He was getting so mad.

He's like, this is where you throw a fastball.

Oh, another slider.

He also

loves saying the word punchies for strikeouts.

Yeah.

Like, yeah, he's got 13 punchies.

But yeah, it was a two-hitter tonight for the Mariners.

And Big Dumper went poo-poo, and the Mariners are up 1-0.

Saturday night, Cubs got eliminated.

I went up there.

It was,

I do not regret going because it was a fun ride up.

So I took 16 guys.

I rented a party bus,

a mix of friends and then people from the office,

all trying to go up to Milwaukee, get a win, have an all-time night.

Did not go that way.

It was a soul-sucking loss that one of those losses that just, you just watched, you sat there being like, something's got to happen.

Something's got to happen.

And nothing happened.

I imagine that that was extremely frustrating because it was such a close game, too.

Yeah.

Where one small positive thing happens and you're like, yes, okay, it's about to happen now.

And then nothing happens.

So the game.

You get like, you allow yourself to buy into the hope over and over and over and over again.

Oh.

With nothing happening.

The whole time, we were just, after every inning, we were just pumping ourselves up being like, just get a base runner, just get a base runner.

I will say, I was nervous from the jump because the Cubs were, the way they were playing was just a little off.

They weren't the sharp.

They weren't as sharp as I was expecting them to be in game five.

And it started in the first inning when PCA, who's just, he's, listen, he's, you know, young, excited to be in the playoffs, maybe a little.

spazzy at times, you know, trying to trying to catch home runs.

He did it again.

Home runs like 300 feet over his hand.

This one wasn't as bad as the first one, but it was still funny.

But it happened in the first inning, and there was a moment where PCA,

basically, there was a ball hit almost directly to Ian Hap, and PCA called him off and took his ball.

And you could see the Hap being like, dude, what the fuck?

Like, that was my ball.

And then there were little things like that.

Like, Danzby Swanson had a throwing error that didn't cost us any runs, but he doesn't have errors.

And, like, there was, you know, a base stolen on Kittridge when he was in, and he didn't even flinch.

He didn't even move.

They just stole a base on us.

Like, little things.

But the game was basically came down to, in the sixth inning,

the two on, nobody out, Kyle Tucker up, heart of the lineup up.

Kyle Tucker was traded for this moment.

This was the exact moment that you get a guy like Kyle Tucker.

He had a 3-1 count, and he gets a fast ball right down the dick, and he meekly fouled it off, and then he struck out.

And that was it.

That was from that moment, and then we went fly-out, strikeout, and it was it.

Like, that was, it basically sucked all the energy out, and it sucks because

I did not think the Cubs were going to be a, I didn't think the Cubs were good enough to win a World Series, especially with where their pitching had gotten to.

Once you get into the dance, once you get to a game five of the NLDS, you're like, I just want to keep going on this ride.

Like, I just want to keep playing more baseball.

I was proud of them for fighting back and not getting swept.

And Wrigley was awesome on Wednesday and Thursday.

So it was disappointing.

It's a weird blend of disappointing, but also the team probably overachieved a little bit because of how bad the pitching had gotten in terms of they had one and a half starters left.

But yeah,

it was a tough ride back.

We sat in the parking lot for about an hour, hour and a half, didn't move an inch, just sitting there, 16 of us in the bus, just being like, that sucked.

And it did suck.

It was the type of loss that you're just like, sucks you.

It was soul-sucking because it was three solo home runs.

We had one solo home run, and it's like nothing else.

Yeah.

So I know that earlier in the season, you were like, just re-sign Tucker now.

Yeah.

Get it done now.

What are we feeling about that?

I personally would re-sign him because it's not my money, and Tom Ricketts makes more than enough money.

By the way, just an aside, don't you think that Tom Ricketts and Crane Kenney should match my donation to the Lost Boys?

I think that's the least they could match.

I mean, that would be nice of them, right?

I'm at 55K, you got a lot of money.

Listen,

they should double.

They should double.

So I don't care because it's not my money.

There's no salary cap.

They should definitely re-sign Kyle Tucker.

There's a 0% chance they resign Kyle Tucker.

Kyle Tucker gave a quote after the game that there's never been a guy who has been more gone than Kyle Tucker was gone in that moment.

I don't know if you can pull it up because I don't know why my Twitter's not working right now.

but his post, they're not resigning him.

It's a 0% chance.

I don't even know if they're going to offer him.

So, and that's the biggest, that's the biggest

fear.

Oh, yeah, there it is.

No, that's not it.

Oh, no, that's not it.

Yeah, you can find it.

He basically was like, if I'm not here, I just want to wish these guys well.

You don't wish someone well

when you could potentially re-sign.

My guess is that they haven't had a conversation yet.

No, I think what has happened happened is I think the Cubs might have

tried to start a conversation and Kyle Tucker was like, no, I'm going to be a free agent.

And they just know

that there's just no way they're going to, the Cubs are cheap.

They're not going to re-sign them.

They're going to try to do it the cheap way.

And that's the frustrating part because I think the Cubs, here it is.

We'll see what happens.

Don't know what the future is going to hold.

If not, it's been an honor playing with all these guys and wish everyone best of luck whether it's playing next year or not with them.

Yeah, that's not good.

That's the most goodbye you could possibly have.

And then you think about the fact that you traded three guys to get him for a season.

Which I

so.

Which is fine if you keep him.

Well, so I don't know what the Cubs are going to do in the offseason.

I'm still not going to judge it.

If they don't spend any money, then I'm going to be like, what the fuck was that?

They did have a team, you know, if Justin Steele doesn't get hurt, if Kate Horton doesn't get hurt, like.

They had a team that was competitive and could have...

And the other thing I will say in Kyle Tucker's defense, he did get injured and it completely changed his season I think he had 20 home runs in the first half he broke his his finger uh sliding into a base in the middle of summer and he had two home runs the rest of the year and then he hurt his leg at the end of this in September he was not the same guy you could see it he didn't have any pop in his bat so people judging his second half like you have to put the context that he was hurt and he was playing hurt and he was like, it was one of those things where he didn't even say he was hurt.

People didn't know he was hurt for like three weeks.

He just started sucking, and everyone's like, oh, shit, he might be hurt.

And they're like, yeah, actually, he is.

He's got a broken hand.

I just, I don't know.

The Cubs, the thing that will drive me nuts is the Cubs have a little momentum.

They have a good young core.

They have positive things.

It was cool to have playoff baseball back at Wrigley.

The crowd was electric.

It was a fun season overall.

My fear is that Tom Ricketts will be like, oh, well, that was cool.

We can basically just, you know, be like, hey, remember when we went back to the playoffs and not spend any money and be like, well, this team's good enough to win 88 games.

Yeah.

Maybe get in the wild card again.

But maybe they'll get better, too.

Maybe they'll, maybe they'll learn better this offseason.

So we won't make any changes.

We'll the guys we got.

Right.

So that would be my fear.

And if they do that, I will be mad about the Cal Tucker trade.

So it's a bummer that it was

the game happened.

on a non-show night, so we didn't get to see your initial reaction like we got Max's.

Would you say that your reaction approached Max's?

Not even close because the way the Cubs lost,

I knew it was a loss from the sixth inning on.

Do you know what I mean?

Like, I had a lot of time to mentally prepare for the Cubs not winning that game

when that moment, when Kyle Tucker struck out in the sixth inning, I was like, that's it.

That was the moment.

We just blew the moment.

So it wasn't like a walk-off home run kind of thing.

You know what I mean?

Like, we just had, we had no fight after that.

Yeah.

So it just, you process it and you're like, this is the reality.

And you have like an hour basically to have the reality set in.

And

it's different than Max because the Cubs are on the young side and Max, his team is basically going to completely change.

So that was the end of an error for Max.

I'm hoping this is the beginning of an era for the Cubs.

And hopefully this is what the Cubs were in 2015, and then they won the World Series in 2016.

I'm not saying they're going to win the World Series next year, but the year before the year kind of thing.

Have you thought about who you're targeting?

I would love Framber and Kyle Schwerber.

Schwarber would be great.

Schwarber would be awesome.

Bring him home.

Be awesome.

Max, did you follow through on your promise to not look at your phone?

Absolutely not.

You look at your phone.

There was something said that I actually defended Max on the bus.

Someone said after the game, I would have rather lost like the Phillies.

And I was like, no.

No, you don't.

No, no.

And then I said, I would maybe rather have lost like the Tigers

than just because.

What?

you do you watch the game the 15 inning game no I know did you watch the Cubs game yeah they like laid down yeah the last the last three innings were just bullshit like they completely laid down and it was just like strikeout after like bat at bat and it just it's when when it's but you'd rather go through a 15 inning I don't know or fight I would not fight your ass off I would not it's the same result no I know 15 innings and then you get so close and some of the extra innings and you don't get a run in it was just very demoralizing to watch the way the Cubs went out and they only gave and It was like always, I think

all their runs, the Brewers runs came with two outs.

Like they just, it was just like, oh, we're out of this inning.

Oh, so a home run.

Fuck.

That happened.

Shit.

And just like scoring one run in the second inning and having nothing else is just, it sucked.

But yeah,

Tigers was worse.

I was trying to cope.

Credit to the Brewers.

Brews are

a really good playoff team.

They get big hits when they need to.

Mizurowski pitched well.

They had a great plan.

They started with Trevor McGill, their closer, because basically the Cubs had scored so many runs in the first inning.

They're like, the first inning is now the ninth inning.

And he was jacked up.

I don't hate that.

And it was a smart play.

Like, Pat Murphy's a hell of a manager.

They managed the hell out of the game.

They're a really good team.

They won the central.

Like, what are you going to do?

Like,

they were better than the Cubs.

And it sucks.

I do think it was a little bit of, they flew the L flag after.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, no,

that was sad, so I have no problem with it because there's obviously a lot of anger because of the Craig Counsel thing, yeah.

I'll just say it, it's little brother energy, I think that's for fans, it's a little brother energy move.

I think fans should do that, right?

I don't, I'm not mad about it, but it is little brother energy, but yeah, fans absolutely should.

I don't even think it's little brother if if fans do it, if fans should do it, no, no, no, I agree, I agree, that's all fair.

No, fans should get their shots at that point because there's a disparity between the two teams.

The Cubs should have, like,

Cubs should outspend everyone in the Central every single year.

Ricketts doesn't.

I mean, they do, but they don't.

They could, like, make it way bigger.

And the Brewers are, you know, low salary, scrappy team, and they're really good.

Like, they have just dogs who get big hits and big moments.

Jackson Churio, I know he wasn't great in this game, but Jackson Churio is a beast.

I mean, Andrew Vaughan was

garbage.

He's garbage.

And he just has become the best hitter,

big time hitter.

William Contreras is an awesome catcher, and he had big moments.

Like, Sal Freelich might be the fastest guy to get out of the box in MLB.

Although, Sal, I know he's a stoolie because he came by the office.

That was a big pussy move not scoring in the fourth inning when the ball like died in the infield.

He could have easily scored.

Yeah.

Could have easily scored there.

Yeah.

That was him being a little bit of a pussy.

I can say that because we lost.

Sometimes you got to know when to disobey orders.

Yeah.

You got to blow through that.

But Sal Freelich, dog.

Like,

they're just a fundamentally sound team.

It gets big hits in big moments.

And, yeah, they were the better team.

I can't believe that Terang hit a home run.

Yeah.

He'd been ice cold.

That was another.

I've done shit.

I think that was another two-out one where it's just like we got out of the inning.

So, what are you looking at?

The payrolls?

Yeah, this is just the payroll.

Yeah, the Brewers are what?

Bottom?

The Brewers are

14th.

14th.

Oh, so they're not bottom.

But the Cubs are what?

Cubs are 9th.

Okay.

But the Cubs should be way higher.

That's the thing.

It's crazy.

It's frustrating as all hell.

But yeah, I'm just sad that there's not more games at Wrigley.

They were fun.

It was going to be, I had it all mapped out in my head.

And yeah, 16 dudes going up to Milwaukee, getting drunk on a party bus, farting.

Sing we we the night ended with us singing we were just doing a sing-along to Fleetwood Mac on the way home So that's kind of where the vibes are.

Wait, which song?

We were doing Landslide, yeah, okay.

And then Mikey Betts, whenever like there was uh instrumental part, Mikey Betts would would put us on to some porn stars that he was he was jiving with recently.

That's good, that's good.

Good vibes, yeah, yeah.

So he'd be like, hey, you guys should check out this channel.

The problem with making that drive is back to it, there's too much stuff that you want to stop on the side of the road and check out.

The Cheese Castle, the Dells, listen, it's nice.

The situation, I would do it again.

I would do it again.

I would absolutely do it again, but

you'd hope you'd win.

Because it's like you're basically putting all your chips into, like, this is going to be the funnest night ever, or this is going to be the worst night ever.

And it was pretty close to the worst night ever.

The Dells aren't, by the way, on the way, but that doesn't.

They're not?

No.

They're like kind of up.

I still see signs for them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think about going there.

Dells are awesome.

Great Wolf Lodge.

Cruise and Chubbies.

There's a lot of stuff.

Chubbies is a great strip club.

A lot of stuff I want to stop by and check out.

And they really let you know the name.

Yeah.

Cruise and Chubbies.

Yeah, it is.

Cruising.

You get a Chubby.

You get exactly what you pay for there.

Yeah, I'm sorry that for the AWLs and for you guys that

memes was right.

It was too bad it wasn't a show night.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The Payroll thing was wrong, by the way.

I was looking at the 2026 season.

Okay, so

you guys are fifth.

And the Brewers are 17th.

Yeah, there's a disparity.

That's credit to the Brewers.

They're just fundamentally like they do, they do more with less

than the Cubs.

And they won the Central by a lot of games.

They played better all season.

They played better in this series.

I was very happy that we did not get swept and that we pushed it to five.

I thought we were going to win that game.

Sucks.

So it goes.

So it goes.

All right.

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Who are you guys picking or rooting for in the MLB playoffs for the rest of the playoffs?

Now we have four teams left.

I've got a future on the Brewers that I put in in early August.

They could absolutely beat the Dodgers.

I also like Yelich.

Yellich is the man.

I'm rooting for Yelich.

So if it's

Brewers, Mariners.

I can't root for the Brewers because

they're a rival and they took out the Cubs.

I think I'm going big dumper.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm just going big dumper, go poo-poo.

I would be very happy to see the Mariners win the World Series over my future.

I mean, it would be cool if it were Brewers-Mariners, its first-time winner.

Yeah.

Out of those.

I'd be happy for Seattle.

Happy for the dumper.

Yeah.

I was born in L.A.

Yeah.

We'd probably get...

Kind of switched to the pods, though.

Yeah.

We'd probably get some

games where Ichiro would show up.

Ken Griffey Jr.

would probably show up.

ichiro would show up in a jersey randy johnson would probably show up with a camera in his hand a rod oh dude do you know we'll be there a real like you want to feel old moment i was watching the game on friday night and they uh they're like the last time the mariners had a elimination game or something like that in the stadium They're like 30 years ago, and it looked like it was 100 years ago, and it was Randy Johnson.

And I was like, shit.

Yeah.

That's ancient history, but I remember it vividly.

You know what, though, I've noticed if you watch games, especially football games, on YouTube from like 2010, it looks like they were filmed in like the 90s.

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

It's like, no, I remember watching these games on TV.

It didn't look that bad on TV when I saw it.

Yeah.

I saw a picture in a bar of Kaminsky Park or whatever.

The old one closed in 1990, and it was like the final day of the park when it closed, 1990.

It looked like it was 1944.

Yeah.

Like it looked like old time.

Like, I was like, is this when it opened?

Yeah.

Yeah, this is when it closed 1990.

You know, I just realized if the Mariners are in the World Series, they probably will have both Randy Johnson and King Griffey Jr.

as MLB media photographers covering those games.

Good point.

Booth, who are you guys rooting for?

Memes, you got your hater,

your hater parla, your hater

pins that you're putting in our little voodoo doll.

It's been on fire.

Yeah, it worked perfectly.

It isn't working on Hank, but everyone else, it is.

Yeah, you need to start switching.

You didn't have the Patriots on your radar yet.

And now

you got to

come.

His time will come.

Oh,

that sounds good.

That was terrible.

I just put some thought into it.

That was a threat.

Like, you know exactly how he did his last time.

Yeah.

With Mac Jones.

They get it.

They get it.

I see.

Get overhyped.

Drake May might be better than Mac Jones.

Yeah, but then Joshua.

But then they say I don't get excited.

Okay.

Who are you guys rooting for?

I'm going Mariners.

Blue Jays.

Okay.

One of the relievers I went to high school with.

Oh, fuck yeah.

Played with him a bit.

You mean the Toronto Blue Jays?

Correct.

Because if you're not saying Toronto,

Jays, yeah.

What does Oldie say?

Brendan Little.

Shout out Brendan Little.

Shout out Brendan Little.

He gave up Ron tonight, but shout out Brendan Little, but I was.

It was unnecessary there, Max.

Yeah.

I know.

Well, people are going to...

I was rooting.

I'm rooting for him.

You little seal.

See Little.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'll probably go on Mariners as well.

Okay.

Oh, last thing from the Brewer's game.

The 50-50 raffle at the Brewer's game is old school tickets, and I've never felt worse for buying $400 worth of tickets because the woman just had to stand there for like 10 minutes ripping up the tickets.

Yeah.

It takes a while to get them there.

Yeah.

For sure.

It was, yeah.

I felt bad about that.

Did not win, but also felt bad.

But at least you know, did you go multiple times?

No.

Yeah, so you know pretty quickly if you won or lose it.

Yeah, I I was too locked in.

I wasn't, I don't, I don't think I left, I left my seat like one time to take a piss, and I timed it so I didn't miss a single thing.

It's like those elimination games, you're just like, you can't leave.

No, yeah,

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Hank, oh, I actually will amend a little something.

I will definitely be more,

I'll be remad when I see the NLCS game one start.

Yeah.

You know how that happens?

Yeah, it could be be us.

Like I was so tired last night.

I started the day in Champaign at 6 a.m., did big noon kickoff, drove back to Chicago, drove up to Milwaukee, drove back to Chicago.

I was like, I'm sad, but I'm also like, I just need to go to sleep.

As soon as I see the Brewers stadium on Monday night in the first pitch, I'm like, fuck.

Yeah,

the FOMO sets in.

Yeah, you're like, this was supposed to be the Cubs.

Okay, Hank, who's back of the week?

Who's back of the week is dudes.

Yeah.

Yeah, dudes.

This was one of the most authentic, best, like, internet videos I've seen in a long time at the Oklahoma State game.

Yes.

It started.

There's one dude in the bleachers.

Oklahoma State was getting smoked.

Smoked.

No one was really in the stadium.

Oh, actually, they might be the worst Power 4 team.

Yes, because Wisconsin's close.

I feel better that it might be with Oklahoma State.

And then it started.

There was one guy just in an empty bleacher area, shirtless, waving his shirt around.

And then another guy came up, joined him.

There was two guys shirtless, waving their shirts around.

Then like two or three more guys shook their shirts.

It was awesome.

Five guys shirtless waving their shirts around.

And then it just formed.

And any guy that was in the stadium seemed like came up, went up in the area.

And by the end, it was like a couple hundred dudes just

tarps off

waving around shirts.

It was, it was

one of like, you know, you can't make these moments up, and it's like, it was one of just the best dudes rocks moments of all time.

You know what?

This would never happen at a Taylor Swift concert.

No.

You won't do this, ladies.

This is so off.

You couldn't do that.

And they're so, they're dog shit.

Bet you won't do it.

And it was so many people by the end.

It was so natural.

Yeah.

But yeah, I watched this video like 20 times yesterday.

It was cool.

This guy's having a good time.

Dude's rock.

Dude Rock.

Who's Rock PFT?

My who's back of the week is airport security.

I finally did it, guys.

Oh.

I finally did it.

Your boy is now TSA Pre-Check certified.

Let's go.

After 10 years of doing this podcast.

And just hoping that you would get...

There was a while you guys would get on my TSA prep.

I piggybacked on your TSA pre-check, and I've had clear for a long time, too.

So clear usually is pretty good, but then you get the clear and the TSA pre-check combo, and you can walk onto the airplane with a gun.

They don't even check anything that you have.

Probably should have said that.

I shouldn't have said that.

I disagree with what you're saying.

I also did make, so the way that it happened, and I've made like six appointments in the last 10 years where I've said, yeah,

walk into his staples and do it.

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you can do, Hank.

You know, everyone could do a lot of stuff.

I'm a busy man, okay?

I've got plans.

Oblos, but I've canceled a few of these appointments, not shown up to some of the appointments.

I think at one point we might have had it at the Barstool Sports office.

Yeah.

And I wasn't there for whatever that day was.

But I was checking in for my flight to go to Baton Rouge this weekend.

As I'm going through clear, the clear person's like, hey, do you want TSA pre-check?

It'll literally take you five minutes.

And I was about two hours early for the flight.

So I said, you know what, this is actually the one scenario.

This is what I need.

This exact scenario to happen to me.

I'm at the airport, checking in.

All I have to do is like type in my name a couple times.

So I did it.

And then now I can already feel like a sense of superiority that's just washed over me.

And I see the rest of the world, the plebs out there who don't have TSA pre-check, and now I realize the way that you guys must have been looking at me for the last 10 years.

PG, I have horrible news.

You don't have to take your shoes off.

Well, before you tell me the horrible news, let me tell you what my thought was after I got it

when I immediately started to feel superior to everybody else.

If a guy like me is getting it at this point, there's a bubble.

Yeah, there's a bubble.

And they're going to do like a TSA pre-check plus or like a platinum level.

And then that's going to be the next one that everyone's going to get into.

So for some, I did this exact same thing like two weeks ago.

Yeah.

Feels good, right?

The exact same thing.

I had clear, didn't have pre-check.

They did the whole takes five minutes to get pre-check.

Yeah.

The line with clear and pre-check is significantly longer than the line with just clear.

Is it?

I've done the past two weeks since I've gotten pre-check, I wait significantly longer now.

And you can't, if you have pre-check, they don't let you go to the just clear line.

They say you, I was like, I tried to go in.

They're like, no, you have pre-check.

You have to go to this line.

Oh, no.

So they've made us pay all this money and do the checks.

And now they're doing that.

It's like everyone who just has clear, they're trying to send them.

to the clear end pre-check line, and it's worse.

I should have known.

Why would they try to make my life easier?

Yeah.

Like, sir, would you like pre-check?

I did this exact same.

I went through this exact same cycle two weeks ago, felt awesome about it.

I was like, this is great.

I'm going to, you know, fly.

And then the past two weeks, I've gone to the airport, and it's still, you only have to wait, like, I don't know.

But you don't have to take your shoes off.

You don't have to take your shoes off in regular anymore either.

Yeah.

That's like a whole new thing.

And there's zero line for just the clear.

There's like, I mean, it's like a five, ten minute line line for clear and pre-check.

But there was for sure

it's zero line at the regular clear.

There was nobody in line.

Well, you could just not put in your clear check number when you book your flight.

But it's just like on, it's just like in my United.

No, but you just, there's a, you enter it.

But if they have you already in the system once.

No, you can do that.

No.

But I always, I book all of my stuff through the United app and it's just like

if you're booking on like kayak,

you don't, you just don't put in your and then I'm good.

Yeah, you just

says like you know what?

I'll take the pre-check for a spin next time.

So you're gonna book, yeah, I was gonna say, then you'd just be booking flights to not use pre-check, which I might do.

Well, there's no, there's a lot of airports that don't have clear, so that's what's good for pre-check for the airports that don't have clear.

That's why I wanted to get it because Philly doesn't have clear.

But yeah, I immediately, when I got it, I started making jokes like right away in front of the TSA agents and the clear agents.

And I was just like, yeah, now if anyone needs me to bring some cocaine on the next flight, I got you.

I'm pre-check.

I'm pre-qualified.

I'm above the law.

I can do whatever I want now.

So I do feel bad now that I'm looking at it from that side that I did not have it for so long and I made you guys fly with me not having pre-check.

No, it's yeah.

As a bum, but I feel good now.

Yeah, that's awesome.

There's a bubble.

All right, my who's back of the week is coaches getting fired.

James Franklin, fired.

Penn State, damn, lost again to Northwestern.

Ever since Hank became a Penn State fan, they have not won a game, and their coach of 10-plus years got fired.

Yeah, end of an era.

Never saw him win a game.

Since you guys made the video, they are 0-3.

Yep.

The Phillies got booted out of the playoffs.

And the

Eagle Birds and the Songs have lost twice.

We're talking about Penn State.

The Birds are 0-2.

Penn State's 0-3.

That's.

And the Phillies are 0-1 in series.

We are.

Penn State has nothing to do with the city of Philadelphia.

Thank you for coming.

What state is Philadelphia?

God bless you.

Yep, nailed it.

I was surprised that it happened so fast.

You're welcome.

But they had to.

They had to, yeah.

They had to.

Fan base had completely turned on.

The UCLA loss was as bad as bad gets.

And then you lost Northwestern at home.

Yeah.

And Drew Aller's out for the year.

You had to.

He's out for the year?

Yeah.

I didn't see that.

Really tuned in.

No, you had to because IR.

Because they're going to have to recruit and get...

Like, you can't fire a coach.

Where's he going to get drafted?

I don't know.

He should have left.

He would have been a first-round pick if he was.

He should have left when Tyler Warren left.

I think that part has been very clear.

That was.

Yeah.

But you have to fire him now because, like, I mean, I hope Wisconsin.

I like Luke Fickles as a guy, but you got to fire him soon.

What do you think about my idea?

You guys just switched coaches.

Wisconsin gets James Franklin.

I don't know.

Luke Fickles

not take Luke Fickle.

But yeah, I was a little shocked.

I was a little shocked just because

he had

survived so many times of the rumors of him leaving.

But yeah,

it just unraveled so fast.

It was three weeks.

It's one thing.

They showed a screenshot of him yucking it up with Nick Sabin 15 days ago on game day when they had played for the whiteout.

They hadn't played anybody.

They had not played anybody, and they just went for two in the fucking whiteout.

I know.

Do you think he's thinking about that?

No.

Well, he should be.

They still had a lot.

No.

No, I disagree.

If they beat Oregon at home, they don't lose the UCLA team.

You think they're Northwestern?

To an 0-4 UCLA team?

No.

No, they're feeling good about themselves.

No, yeah.

I made the argument on Pick'em.

I was like, I think that Oregon just beat Penn State now three times.

The UCLA loss was Oregon beating him twice because

it's not taking anything away from UCLA, but you basically had your entire program was building up to the whiteout with Oregon, and you lost it in that way.

To get off the mat, it's almost impossible.

Yeah, I couldn't.

I agree.

If they win that game,

they're one of the best teams in the country right now.

Brutal.

Oh, man.

You should have gone for two.

Don't be a coward.

Yeah, but he's done.

Hanks.

Or Max, who do you want?

Signetti.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Poor Indiana.

They're so good, but if they lose Signetti, that would be tragic.

Yeah, it would be.

They're so good.

But, like,

he's got to be the guy.

They went to Oregon and they just fucking Google him.

Kick the shit out of him.

I loved this interview that he did after the game where the lady was like, you've never won a game like this on the road.

But she was talking about Indiana, and then he started just thinking about his personal accomplishments.

He's like, no, I've won a bunch of games on the road, big games in my past.

If you look it up, like, that's, Signeti's a great coach, don't get me wrong, awesome coach.

I don't think that he has, like, Indiana in his blood.

I think that if

Penn State called, he's picking up the phone.

He's definitely picking up the phone.

I don't know, though.

He's got it pretty good right now.

And Penn State is that fan base is the best.

They're going to want someone

the best.

All right, Zach, finish this off.

My who's back of the week is Anthony Davis.

Yeah.

NBA player Anthony Davis.

A little bit of backstory.

When Kaisinat finishes his sub-athon on Twitch, he's the biggest streamer in the world, right?

He hogs a lot of viewership when he's currently streaming.

So when he ends his sub-athon, many streamers go to sub-athonning because now the viewership has opened up.

And one of my favorite pastimes this time of year is just in these sub-athons, they enter giveaways.

So they do giveaways.

So I like to enter a bunch of giveaways to see if I can hit on them.

And a streamer I was watching yesterday when I was trying to win some giveaways, I went 0 for 3, but then Anthony Davis came in.

He dropped like 600 subs and then gave away $4,500 in the chat.

at like 1 o'clock in the morning.

All-time move from Anthony Davis.

That is cool.

Just came in for the love of the game.

Love that.

Did you get any?

I didn't win any of the giveaways, no.

That would have been so electric.

He just said, like, 1 a.m., he just, for the love of the game,

10 grand in the chat.

What was he doing?

He just said, what's up?

And then gifted like 600 subs for like 600 people to be ad-free and then donated $4,500.

Did you say you were Zach from Pardon My Take?

No, I'm just in the chat trying to win giveaways.

What's your go-to line if you're trying to win it?

Oh, you just sub up.

You just

give five subs, get in the running.

It's like a sweepstakes kind of.

How often are you doing this?

Pretty regularly, I try to hit on the giveaways.

Yeah.

It's like a little entry for a lot of maybe gifts.

Yeah, yeah.

Giveaways are fun.

Yeah, that is fun.

I know that Anthony Davis went live like that.

That's the thing.

He wasn't live.

He just happened to pop in.

I guess he's just lurking on Twitch, popped in and just donated.

Oh, that's good for him.

Oh, so he was just in the chat.

He's like another guy that was just in chat.

and just decided to bless the chat with more giveaways.

That's awesome.

That's very cool.

Shout out to Anthony Davis.

Big shout out to Anthony Davis.

Yeah.

Max, while you were taking a piss, I was saying that the sadness

and anger I felt on Saturday night is going to come back on Monday night when I see the Dodgers and Brewers playing.

Do you agree?

No, you're done.

I'm just going to pretend that doesn't exist.

How are you feeling, Max, overall?

Because Thursday was tough.

I was too harsh on the Eagles.

Yeah.

Say that.

What about the Union?

What about the Union?

No,

fuck the Union.

The union fans were mad, big mad.

Fuck the union.

I don't give a fuck about the union.

I'll stay on business with that.

I love that.

Are you still fucking memes?

Jets are pretty bad.

That's the thing.

That's where I went too far.

Do you?

But I was

in the moment.

In the moment, I'm so angry.

I'm not thinking rationally.

Yeah, in the moment, you were like,

I think sports sucks even though I just won a Super Bowl.

Like, winning a Super Bowl Bowl isn't fun because I had this night.

Do you still think that way?

No.

It was just I was so angry at that moment, I forgot

what happiness in sports was like.

And now that I'm a couple of days removed, it's like winning the Super Bowl.

Right.

Yeah, the removal of days definitely.

Yeah, you had to have it happen all at once.

It was just all.

On a show night.

On a show night.

Yeah.

I mean, the Eagles were super banged up on Thursday night.

It was a bad game.

Did anyone here piss you off extra?

We were, I feel like we were walking on eggshells.

I feel like everyone was pretty good.

Yeah.

I did listen back to when we were making the jokes about the snack closet and you were just like, you're a fucking prick.

It's so good.

Hank,

I didn't look, I wasn't obviously looking at anything and then I just saw Hank was just smiling eardy the whole time.

The entire time.

Yeah, he loved it.

I was trying so hard not to laugh, but I kept looking over at Hank.

And Hank, like, every time you would get

over the top, every time Max would go over the top and say something extremely depressing, Hank would just start like that.

Hank would start laughing.

And then that makes me laugh that Hank's laughing at Max, being like, I'd rather not be on Earth.

See, he's such a fucking prick.

He's a prick.

I love him, though.

Yeah.

Yeah, I love him.

Okay.

Hank, I got a question for you.

Yes, PFT.

Who are you rooting for tomorrow night?

I am going to bet on the Bears.

Okay.

Good.

Yeah.

That's surprising to me.

Yeah.

Why?

Well, he likes plus money, plus the plus signs.

Yeah,

when push comes to stuff, I like the plus signs.

I also,

I've said it time and time again, and the Cubs, like, it's another example.

Like, Chicago is fun when their teams are good.

Like, the Bears going on a run would be fun.

It would be an interesting game because it feels like, at least for the Bears, I don't know where you're at, PFT, but like the Bears, if they can find a way to win this game, then I'll maybe

start maybe thinking to start thinking about Yoffs.

Now that sounds like it's above a six out of 10.

No, because

you hear me.

I said, I'll start maybe thinking about start thinking about Yoffs.

Still two steps away.

And if they lose, it's going to be like, uh, let's see what happens.

It also depends on how.

I'm very nervous about our defense.

Our defense is not good.

I think Bill's going to run for a lot of yards.

I just expect and hope that our offense off a bye week can come out firing.

I'm worried about what Ben Johnson has put into the playbook in a bye week.

I feel like he's had a lot of time to think about this.

Yeah.

And our defense is not great.

It's played really good at times, but it's not a great defense.

But I agree.

I think that Bill and Jaden, I think, is going to run.

And I think Ertz is going to have a big night, too.

Let's get some score predictions.

I got 27-16 commies.

Oh, that's kind of an asking.

It's a mini-wamping.

Yeah.

Mini-womping for sure.

Seven points at the end.

At the very end.

What?

So it's 20.

2016.

And then we added it

much time.

Bears 31.

Commanders 30.

Wow.

It'd be fun.

Hail Mary.

Oh, Hail Mary.

Listen, I've actually

part of therapy, I've learned that the Hail Mary actually, if I could go back, I wouldn't change it because I was talking this through.

Hear me out.

I was talking this through when I was on with Waddle and Sylvie last week on ESPN 1000.

Yeah, therapists.

Sometimes.

We were saying the hypothetical of like, what happens if the Bears win that game?

They probably don't fall off a cliff like they fell off a cliff because remember the Cardinals came after and then the Patriots and then it was just like a loss after loss after loss.

They would maybe find a way to like,

I would say maybe like seven or eight wins.

They ended with five.

So I'm just saying, you know, the Commanders game would be six, two more wins.

Iberfus might not get fired.

So that Hail Mary got the Bears Ben Johnson.

I think how that's it's the domino.

I think it's great that you're going to therapy.

I think everybody should give therapy a chance, but I also think it's hilarious that you talk to your therapist about the Hail Mary.

No, no i was my therapist was waddle and sylvie oh okay it's that part yeah that you were saying that i was like can i go to therapy to talk about yeah yeah you could you can no it was waddle and sylvie we were doing the hypothetical uh would they just tell you not to watch sports yeah yeah probably they'd probably talk you'd probably just be like it doesn't matter you can't control it blah blah blah

yeah blah blah blah

i would need my therapist to be like an eagles fan no we could just be your therapist no w that's what wip exists for yeah that's just yeah yeah that's exactly what it is, a radio show that I do a hit on every week.

And we literally had this discussion where it's like, Sylvie asked me, he's like, would you, or Waddle asked me, would you trade,

would you, if you go back in time, would you have the Hail Mary not happen?

And I thought about it and I was like, actually, I don't, knowing everything we know now, I don't think so because.

They probably would have done just enough to keep Beaverflues.

Yeah, they did.

And that would have sucked.

Yeah, it would have been a different season.

Right.

Right.

So, thank you.

You're welcome.

Yeah.

This feels good.

Miracles happen.

Yeah, we're going to be live on

a Hail Mary would be awesome, though.

If the game ended in another Hail Mary, it would.

Memes is smiling.

Either way.

Either way,

it'd be an incredible moment.

Yeah.

Double Hail Mary.

What do you mean, double Hail Mary?

So it succeeds, then there's a flag, and then you do it again, and then it succeeds again.

You're crazy.

You're converted, memes.

Why are we here under these assumptions saying the Bears can't have a Hail Mary?

I'm just saying a double Hail Mary.

No, because he's trying to get away from him.

I was trying to double-doink the Hail Mary when you said that you were going to win by one.

Oh, yeah.

No, I don't know how we got to 31.30.

Score predictions, sir.

Pointless.

I say numbers.

Three.

Wow.

That counts.

That counts.

Wow.

I go 15.

Good job.

We're going to be streaming on the part of my take, YouTube, from the studio.

So tune in.

That was awesome.

Yeah, Meves is crazy.

I hope you win this one.

That was awesome.

I hope you win this one, Meeves.

33.

I'm not going to.

People 33.

Tagging me in that fucking fish winning for the first time.

Wood fish.

Humpy Humpy.

I missed it.

Oh,

the Humpy one before.

Yeah, yeah.

That fucking fish.

I think the fish has autism.

I do.

I think that's like Humpy's thing.

Me too.

Tattoo Bat.

Do you know what tattoo you're going to get?

No, I haven't decided.

I think this one's going to be like more of a spur-of-the-moment fun one.

Yeah.

Did you know they're wearing the black uniforms?

Oh, shit.

It's the only game this season that the Commanders are wearing the black uniforms, and it just happens to be the uniforms they wore for the Hail Mary game last year.

Yeah.

That seems

mean.

Yeah.

But again,

I'm happy the Hail Mary happened.

Yeah, it's good.

My reasoning.

It's good.

It's called a negative into a positive.

I'll go.

I'm happy it happened too.

22.

76.

I'll go

52.

72%.

Means you're going to get it.

What was yours?

Hank.

22.

24.

Wait,

we had double 22s there?

Oh.

Oh, invalid.

Invalid.

All right, I'll take 24.

Hank, you got to pick a new number.

Who picked 22?

Jack, Jack.

Jack, you got to pick a new number.

You got to pick a new number, Jack.

42.

Okay.

Wow, this would be a way.

What a way for memes to get it on an invalid.

This qualification.

94.

94.

Sorry, memes.

I don't think you're ever gonna get it.

Damn me either.

Love you guys.

Congrats to Humbie.