NFL Week 6 Picks and Preview, Max Has The Worst Night Possible With Eagles & Phillies, Commanders Center Tyler Biadasz + Fyre Fest Of The Week

2h 41m

Max is down bad as the Phillies lose in an all time fashion and the Eagles get smoked by the Giants. We talk Playoff Baseball, the Yankees get eliminated, Cubs and Tigers force Game 5 and Max wants to blow up all his sports teams (00:00:00-00:44:15). Week 6 picks and preview for all of Sundays games and we talk Flacco in Cincy, the Browns never winning regular season games in Pittsburgh, the sad state of the Ravens, Spencer Rattler all the way back and is Geno Smith going to get benched (00:44:15-01:40:03)? Jerry’s fantasy minutes and our best bets (01:40:03-01:48:01). Commanders Center Tyler Biadasz joins the show to talk about playing Offensive line, Jayden Daniels, Badgers football and more (01:48:01-02:14:37). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:14:37-02:39:36).


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Today is Friday, October 10th.

And PFT, what a night of sports we just had.

It had a little bit of everything, man.

It was an incredible night of sports, just a lot of drama, a lot of positive energy, a lot of heartbreak as well.

Big Cat, congratulations.

Let me be the first to congratulate Big Cat

on the Cubs.

Still one more.

Still one more.

We're going back to Milwaukee.

You guys packed a suit tonight.

You said, hey, we're not done yet.

We're going to make a trip up north.

Yep.

And

what a dong fest you went to tonight.

We pounded them.

We'll talk about the Cubs game.

I was there.

It was electric.

I got some anecdotes,

some great stories, but I missed everything that happened here.

Where should we start?

Do you want to start with football?

Because a lot happened in football, or do you want to start in baseball?

Because a lot happened in baseball, too.

Let's start with baseball.

The Yankees lose.

Yankees lose.

That clip of Laddie and David Ortiz going back and forth.

Do it one more time.

Yankees lose.

And then you had Derek Jeter just sitting there.

And A-Rod.

And A-Rod.

You could tell it pissed.

I think it pissed Derek Jeter off more.

Yeah.

It embarrassed A-Rod.

Correct.

But Derek Jeter was like, why the fuck am I subjecting myself to this right now?

Yes.

I saw someone say that Jarek Jeter and A-Rod kind of the first time they laughed with it because they knew it's part of the show.

And then David Ortiz did it so many times to the point where they got mad again.

Yeah.

Which I loved.

They went through the wall.

He just kept doing it.

Here's what I think.

And, you know, I know they're kind of technically our coworkers at Fox Sports.

I don't know how you can have chemistry on a show like that if you're rubbing your co-workers' face in a heartbreaking playoff loss.

Yeah.

I don't think that that's how you build a good sports show.

No.

And that kind of goes against what we stand for here, part of my take.

Bad camaraderie.

Bad camaraderie.

Yeah.

So, yeah, the Yankees lose.

They're going to bring back Aaron Boone.

He said he expects to be back.

The Jays are hot.

The Jays are awesome.

Vladdy, I saw it.

There was a stat out there.

It was like four or five guys on the Yankees combined, like Volpe,

Grisham, I think it was Jazz Chisholm.

It was four guys, maybe five guys who had 10 hits, and Vladdy had nine himself.

They just pounded him.

That was awesome.

Aaron Judge hit that home run.

Listen, that one

I said if they don't win that series, it is a footnote, and it is absolutely a footnote.

I think Aaron Judge finished over 500 in the playoffs, hitting.

Yeah, and kept on hitting.

I feel like there was a guy in the Phillies Dodgers series that was even higher than that.

Who was that?

Was that Enrique?

I don't know.

Was that Kike?

I don't know.

But

it's crazy.

He had a great series, and Vladdy had an awesome series, too.

And guess what?

The Jays, the Blue Jays?

Yeah, the Toronto Blue Jays.

They're getting Beaubachette back, I think, in the next round.

So the Blue Jays are

going to be a handful.

They're fun.

And they also...

Get to watch the other AL series go to five.

The Tigers win game four.

Javi Baez, fucking love him forever.

It's going back to Seattle, which is, I mean, that's such a huge advantage for the Jays

because now, you know, they got an elimination game on Friday.

They play game one on Sunday, and that series is going to be fun.

This will be fun to watch a game five.

I got one more quote from Vladdie Jr.

Oh, yeah.

This goes back to 2022.

He was doing an interview.

They asked him about playing against the Yankees, and he said, I like to play in New York.

I like to kill the Yankees.

I would never sign with the Yankees, not even dead.

Oh, I like that.

There's some good hate there.

Yeah.

I also love the...

From birth.

Yeah.

I love the scuba mask that he's wearing as he's like pouring beers on his face.

He's got the snorkel.

He's got the snorkel up there just so he can breathe while he's chugging.

Yep.

That looked like a very fun scene.

I think the Yankees should personally, they should extend Aaron Boone.

We've said that on this podcast, but I feel like you need a steady hand.

And I don't really know what Aaron Boone does with that team besides just like chews.

He just chews stuff.

Yeah.

He's like a dog.

If you leave him alone and there's something in front of him, he will pick it up in his mouth and he will chew it.

But outside of that, I don't know.

I don't know what his day-to-day is.

Bubbles are huge, yeah.

Um, yeah, so I uh, and then I guess we could talk about the Cubs right now.

They forced game five, it was electric at Wrigley Wednesday night, Thursday night.

I was there for both of them.

Uh,

it was just awesome.

The Cubs bats woke up.

Matthew Boyd redeemed himself from Saturday's performance, gave us some strong innings.

The bullpen, uh, Nico, just keep Nico is another guy, he's hitting like 400.

Uh, Ian Happ, who has not been good, but that's why you give give a guy like Ian Happ a long leash because he hits a huge three-run homer.

The Cubs just, they score, they scored more runs later on in the game tonight, but they are just a first-inning team.

Didn't Ian Happ also hit three balls that went to the warning track?

He should have had three home runs tonight.

Awesome night from him.

It was crazy.

Everyone was hitting.

Matt Shaw finally hit.

I actually said to Titus and Eddie and my friend Dave, who I was at the game with, I was like, at some point, Matt Shaw had not gotten a hit in the playoffs, so his average was zero.

I was like, do you even want to get a hit at this point?

Because then it's just going to be like 10 cents.

Yeah, because if somebody sees your stat line, it's like, oh, he batted zero in the playoffs, you assume maybe he's a pinch hitter?

Yeah.

Maybe he got in like maybe for one game.

Yeah, right.

And that's it?

Right.

This is his first game.

But if it's like a weird number that's very low, then you're like, oh, no.

He balled his, he, he, he has grinded his ass off, like, you know, woke up in this game.

Pitching, like I said, the bullpen has been awesome outside of a Kittridge mistake.

The bullpen has been absolute nails the last two games.

And all the pressure is back on the Brewers because Freddy Peralta went tonight.

And I got to say, one of the best moments, Hank was there too.

We weren't sitting together, but in the first inning, there was just

a completely organic chant that started for the whole stadium that was just Freddy, Freddy.

And like those moments where everyone's doing it and it's like not planned at all.

And it just, it continued for like four straight innings Where I was actually practicing my Freddy chant when we, when, when we were pitching, I was like, I got to stay warm for the next inning because when he comes back out, we're going to have to say Freddy again.

Shout out to the absolute legend because there's a guy or probably a group of guys out there that knows that it's them that started the entire Freddy chant.

Yeah.

And they can say for the rest of their lives, yeah, that was me.

I know that chant started.

It was somewhere

like under the overhang on the first base or third base side.

So those guys,

probably like the 200-level, level, third base side, probably halfway between home and third base.

Whoever was there, you started the Freddy Chan.

I can tell you that was where it came from, and the whole crowd had it, and it was fucking awesome.

They're going to tell their kids about that one day.

Yeah.

They're going to tell their grandkids about that.

They're going to have a blast retelling that.

And listen, game five is going to be like the Cubs don't really have pitching.

Cade Horton can't come back unless someone gets hurt, which I was actually, I don't want anyone to get hurt, but I was also hoping that Ben Brown, he was warming up.

I was hoping he'd come in and do the Rodney Dangerfield out my arm so that that would have made Milwaukee so mad.

Cade Horton could have started game five.

So we don't have pitching.

They don't really have pitching.

It's going to be just grab your nuts.

Whole pitch more.

Yeah, who wants it more?

I'm just happy we're going back.

The season's continuing.

It's been so much fun.

I also appreciated the green bay sucks.

Like late in the game, the game was kind of over.

It was 5-0, 6-0, and it was turned into green bays.

Green bay sucks.

Yep.

And then

the, oh, special out, Renee, who sold me the 50-50 ticket.

It was her birthday today.

Oh, happy birthday.

So I was nervous about this game.

Oh, we got to go.

I put my kids to bed, and it was like, I looked at the clock.

It was like 7.05 and the game started at 8.

I just went to Wrigley.

I ate two hot dogs just sitting by myself in my seats.

I was probably there for like 45 minutes before the game.

You got to soak it all in.

Yeah, it's fast.

I was just like, I don't know what to do right now.

A couple hot dogs to like calm your senses a little bit.

Yeah, younger me would have gone to the bar, but like I was like, I had to put my kids to bed, so I'm, I'm just going to do that, and then I'm just going to go to Wrigley.

And it was the eight o'clock start tests of a man of my age, but it was fucking awesome.

Hank, it was electric, right?

Didn't win the 50-50, I just checked.

I didn't either.

That's okay.

It's all right.

I mean, listen,

we don't win.

We're four and one right now in the playoffs at home, and the one loss is when I won the 50-50.

So

awesome, awesome crowd, just popping like from the first pitch, just always into it, standing the whole time.

Eight o'clock on a Thursday in Chicago.

People were

blasted,

blasted in the crowd.

You could just feel it right from the first pitch.

Like, people are fucking tuned up.

So it was awesome.

You guys were streaming.

Yeah, yeah.

Myself, Max, Che,

Chief, Nikki Smokes, Connor.

There are a lot of guys there tonight.

Shout out to everybody that was in the cave.

A lot of sports going on.

So we watched your game when it was on.

We also watched the football game, which was incredible.

I don't know if you read anything about the football game tonight.

I saw some Cam Scatterboards.

It was a Cam Scatterboo clinic.

I don't know if we want to get to that first or if we want to.

Max, you decide.

You can do whatever the fuck you want.

Okay.

All right.

Would it be better if we eased into it by talking about the last Phillies Dodgers game?

No.

Oh, yeah, you won't.

Not talking about that.

You won game three.

That was a great game.

Schwarber.

Schwarber.

Yeah.

That was so sad when he just won one last night lost tonight.

That was so sad when they sent Clayton Kershaw out there and they were just like, go burn some outs for us.

Yeah.

And he was so thankful to get out of that inning.

Yeah.

That was a tough watch for him.

Yeah.

And they kept talking about him like he was a dog, like an old dog.

It's like, and one last round for old Yeller out there.

Swarber out there.

Yeah.

So I don't really know how to get into this game.

I don't either.

I do want to be, I want to be sensitive to Max's emotional state right now.

It was a tough game.

The Phillies fought their dicks off tonight.

They didn't really score that many runs.

Yeah,

the arms fought for sure.

The arms fought.

The defense fought.

No, what?

What are you talking about?

I'm trying.

I'm trying.

I'm trying.

Okay, obviously until the end.

I'm saying

up until that point, right?

That was the worst way to lose a game.

Yeah.

Yes, it's the worst way.

It's the worst possible way to lose.

It's Bill Buckner.

It's the worst loss in playoff history since Bill Buckner.

He should have gone to first.

You think?

I do think so, yes.

Jiti Realmuto, he thought too.

Yeah.

He was the screenshot of him pointing through to the first base.

That is a play that you would be shocked to see on a little league field.

Yeah.

And I feel bad for the guy.

Like,

I swear to God,

I truly feel bad for him.

He did his job as a pitcher, and then

I've never seen a more panicked situation in my life.

Like,

he didn't know what he didn't know what to do, and I can't imagine how he's feeling right now.

The entire city of Philadelphia.

It's weird.

Half of the city of Philadelphia wants him dead, and then half of the city of Philadelphia

knows that it's so bad that they feel bad for him because it's

that bad.

It's that bad.

They know that

that bad.

It's so mad.

Right.

Like, yeah, no, I can't imagine what that.

I know how bad I feel right now.

I cannot imagine how bad Orion Kirk Ring feels right now.

How bad do you feel right now?

I mean,

it's the worst sports day of my

life.

Is it because of the Flyers, too?

I don't give a fuck about the Flyers.

It was a very bad hank to lose a series.

I was at the Cubs game.

I was at the bar before.

I watched the Phillies walk in the tying run.

So it was 1-1.

And then I went into the game.

Which was bullshit.

It was a strike.

That was a strike.

That was a strike.

And the fact that the umpire went up

after the game and apologized for not calling it a strike.

Yeah, it was such bullshit.

I didn't have sound on till I was watching from a bar, and from my vantage point, I was like, that looks like a strike.

But I didn't, wasn't paying too close attention.

Went to the game, and then in the game, I was like, oh, old school.

They got the scoreboard.

I'll just keep track of the scoreboard.

And then, you know, it went from 1-1 to 2-1.

And I'm like, and then seeing

how.

How

you can't convey how it happened on the ground.

No, and our, you know, it's like usually it was so bad that our group text was just completely silent.

There was no

reason.

That was something that you would see on a, like, us playing Barstool after dark.

Yeah.

Memes would make that error in 60-inch softball.

I don't even know if he would.

Tom Lay.

I think he would at least throw to first.

I think he would at least throw to first.

He was trying to get the lead runner.

With two outs.

Yeah, it made no sense.

And Max was fighting his dick off on the stream.

Max pulled out all the stops.

So Max went overalls tonight.

And then he waited for what, the seventh inning, eighth in the second inning after they tied it up.

The Pigtails came out.

The Pigtails, how did the Pigtails do?

Pigtails retired forever.

Forever?

Forever.

Why?

Forever.

You look so cute.

Forever.

Never again.

Never?

Never again.

Ever.

Ever.

That's a long time.

Can you say it one more time?

That's a long time, Max.

Never.

You're not even looking at us.

I know.

I can't look at you.

I am looking straight down this entire podcast.

He is.

I will not be making eye contact with a single one.

I was supporting the Phillies.

I was rooting for the Phillies tonight.

I wanted to see Max keep fighting.

I wanted the Phillies to win so Max didn't have to go to a wedding this weekend.

I'm going to get three hours of sleep tonight.

I wanted the Phillies to win.

And then when they lost, I do want to apologize for the look that I gave you after they lost.

But in fairness to me, pull up the look.

No,

the look is fair.

I'm not upset with the look.

You know, I was rooting for the Phillies.

I'm not upset with the look.

The look was fair.

The look was fair.

I mean,

it was a truly, truly shocking,

shocking way to get eliminated from postseason.

I had to take a peek.

A shocking way.

I had to see what Max, what he looked like in that moment because sometimes when Max gets

such bullshit, it gets my job to also do this.

He gets like, he pull it up, he contorts his body and goes crisscross applesauce and hands over the.

I want to see what he looked like, and I couldn't help but crack a smile in that moment, but I did.

No, I'm not, I'm not, that was, that's fair, that was fair.

And then Max just kind of, you know, he went through it for a while.

Fortunately, in the office, we've got a lot of really

easy stuff to smash against other stuff that doesn't cause any permanent damage.

So Max took out his anger on some Wiffleball bats, and that's fine.

I also punched the fuck out of one of those lockers, and I'm for sure.

It's not, it'll be, it's just a bruise.

It'll be a bruise.

Yeah, it'll be a bruise.

It'll be okay.

There's a look right there.

Oh, no.

I just had, I had to see because he was like covering his ears and he had his legs crossed up and he had the pigtails and the overalls.

But yeah,

Max fought his dick off tonight.

He fought so hard in every game.

And then the Eagles game started.

Well, I have a question about

so

that happens, Max.

What happens right after

in the cave, in your head, and in the world?

What went through?

Nothing.

It is just blank nothingness.

I walked into

the closet.

Okay.

That's where you filmed the video?

No.

I walked into the snack pantry.

Okay.

Just out of, like...

Out of...

That's just muscle memory?

Like, no, just, like, that was the darkest place that I could find.

I just wanted to be in a dark, in like a super dark room.

Did you?

Shut up.

Whatever.

You're a fucking prick.

Who?

You.

Oh, it was a joke.

Muscle memory.

That was a funny joke.

And then I walked into the mostly sports room because that was dark.

How long did you go?

And then I was like.

I don't know.

Oh, you could tell him he's a prick, too?

No, I just wanted to know when he came out of the closet.

Fair is fair.

That's a similar joke.

I mean,

I'm just not going to continue to answer the question.

Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

Okay, so then you walked into the mostly sports.

I just wanted to be in a dark room, and then I was like,

maybe someone from Mostly Sports is going to walk in here.

I don't want them to see me.

And then I was going to come in here.

Of course, memes was in here.

So that was the last place I was going to go.

So then I went into the wake-up Mincey studio.

I thought I would be safe in the wake-up Mincey studio.

And I just laid down there for

40 minutes, probably.

No, felt like 40 minutes.

It was probably like 15.

Okay.

And

I didn't even have my phone.

Actually, no, I did get my phone.

I don't fucking know.

I don't fucking know.

I obviously got my phone because I took that video.

Did you did you like watch replays?

No, I watch nothing.

Read recaps?

I watch nothing.

Recaps.

I'm not gonna sincerely.

I might not open my cell phone for the rest of this weekend.

That'd be fair.

Yeah.

What about

talk about the Eagles?

Well, I have a question because I got a text from PFT during during all this, and he just texted me, said,

Max is, I think Max is turning into the Joker.

Yeah.

What was that?

Well,

so after this, the period of darkness that he spent, he came out and watched the Eagles game, and things started to go very, very poorly for the Eagles in the football game.

And Max was sitting in the back row, and he just started laughing.

And he just started going, This is hilarious.

This is hilarious.

But he was like getting angrier as he kept saying it.

Like, there was a fumble.

I think it was Sega fumbled.

The hilarious was

when it was just just an easy kick return and fucking Tank Bigsby just dropped it out of bounds at the two-yard line.

Yeah.

And you were just like,

everything bad is happening all at once.

And his reaction was just like, he started laughing and going, hilarious.

This is hilarious.

But he was getting angrier and angrier.

And then I think there might have been some smashing after that.

Kind of got some of the rage out of your system a little bit.

You smashed a couple bats?

Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

I was very quiet and, you know, trying to bottle my emotion.

I was really trying to bottle my emotions so I didn't have another incident.

And

I

that was Hank Juckaly.

Yeah, I know.

And then he's full on line.

Yeah, no.

And then once there, there was Jalen Hurts threw a pick in the red zone.

Giant scored another touchdown to make a fucking 34-17.

Then there was a fumble on a kick return.

Jalen Hurts starts driving again, and A.J.

Dillon just fucking fumbles again.

And it was like just

a truly hilarious sequence of events for Philadelphia Sports.

Losing 34-17

to Jackson Dart

with nobody at receiver, zero people at receiver, and he could just move the ball at will.

And Jalen Hurts looks like the worst fucking quarterback in the NFL.

Oh, don't say that.

I'll quickly say, hand up.

I did kind of roast the Giants on this podcast on Monday.

I said they're a bad team.

Yeah, they might be good.

They might be good.

No, the Eagles just fucking suck.

The Eagles fucking suck.

Second half was tough for the Eagles.

They suck.

They're actually bad.

All of Philadelphia's sports died today.

There is no team to be excited about in all of Philadelphia.

That's a fact.

That happened tonight.

It went from a whole lot of promise coming into this day and all dead.

Every Every single one, dead.

Zero.

I am

George.

I am fucking memes.

Oh, no, don't say that.

That's so mean.

Don't put that on me.

You're mean to yourself.

Don't put that on a quote card, whatever you do.

Yeah, don't fucking memes.

I am fucking memes.

Was there a comma in there?

I don't give a fuck.

Do whatever you want to do.

Okay.

He's not opening his phone.

What?

He's not opening his phone.

Yeah, he's not opening his phone.

Cam Scataboo.

He was.

So I was going to say it was a coming out party for Cam Scataboo.

It was actually...

This was Rush Week for Cam Scataboo and Jackson Dart.

Yeah.

The romance that they've got going on right now is...

It's honestly puzzling to me because I don't think I've ever experienced this in my entire life.

But the New York Giants are fun as fuck.

Yeah.

It's weird, isn't it?

Like, with those uniforms and everything you know about the Giants, you expect them to occasionally pop up and be a good football team, but in a very boring way.

Yeah.

And this is a team that, like, I want to watch more Giants football games.

I can't wait to watch more New York Giants.

And I've never thought that in my entire life.

Cam Scataboo is so much fun.

He's so much fun.

He was just running through people's faces.

He was just flexing on dudes, just running to and through people.

Not running.

He goes out of his way to turn back and run out of safety.

And

the duo that they have with Cam Scataboo and Jackson Dart, it's pure chaos when you watch them play, but it's so fun.

And whatever Cam Scataboo's got is contagious.

And Jackson Dart catches it over the course of a game, and he starts to run like Cam Scataboo, but he does it in a much more hilarious, skinny way.

Like, there was this one play that Jackson Dart had where he scrambled, and he's very mobile.

He's quick.

Yeah.

And he got to the outside, and he was running up the sidelines, and he was like, you know what?

Fuck that.

I'm not going to go out of bounds.

I'm going to just jump headfirst into a safety.

And have you ever seen the

Simpsons meme of Ralph Wiggum diving through the plate glass window headfirst?

That's what Jackson Dart did, like to a defense, like targeted him with his helmet, jumped at him.

Oh, yeah, that's the clip right there.

It was pretty great.

And at one point, Dart got taken out of the game because he had a concussion.

Yeah, and I saw Russell Wilson came in and then Dable just started yelling at the

medical examiner being like,

get Jackson Dart back out here.

Yeah, so Jackson Dart goes into the tent and then Russell Wilson goes on the field.

He was so ready to be on that field.

He was on the field before Dart was off it.

And he threw one pass to Jalen Hyatt, and he short-armed it by, I'm going to guess 15 yards.

It was like the worst pass I've ever seen in the NFL.

And right after it hit the ground, you see Dayball on the sidelines turn around, go up to the doctor, and start screaming at the doctor like, what the fuck are you doing?

Get this guy back in the game.

I can't handle this.

And so then

Dart is still in the blue tent, and then Scataboo Scataboo says, fuck that.

I'm going to go over and see what's up with it.

And so Scataboo runs into the tent to check on Dart.

And then you see like four other people go in there.

And the doctor comes out.

He's like, I don't know what's going on there.

Jackson Dart just keeps saying it's some hoes in this tent.

I don't know what that means, but it doesn't sound good.

And eventually, Cam Scataboo and Dart get out of the tent together.

I think Scataboo cleared Jackson Dart.

He said, he's not concussed.

Dude, bro's straight.

Let's get him back in the game.

And then obviously, Dave will on the sidelines like, yep, put him back in.

Get him back in.

ASAP, I can't stand another second of Russ Wilson being out there.

Yeah.

And there was one very funny clip, too, where they cut up to the owner's booth, and Mr.

Mara was staring down at the field at like the most fun part of the game for the Giants.

It's like every time Scatterboo got the ball, he's running people over.

He was doing backflips in the end zone, and Mara's looking down, peering like an old asshole Dean, like wondering what he's let his football team become.

Yeah.

He's like, what these guys are, these boys are being reckless.

Yeah, these youngsters are a bit flashy for my liking.

I thought I implemented no taunting policies to curb this sort of behavior.

I'll have a word with them afterwards.

But yeah,

it was so fun to watch.

And the Giants,

they were the better team by far.

Their defense was great in the second half.

I don't know what the play calling is for the Philadelphia Eagles.

That's definitely a big part.

Yeah, so Jalen Hurts, Max, you said Jalen Hurts sucks?

You want me to say it again?

Well, I'm asking.

He is a bad quarterback right now.

All right, so you put in the right now there.

That's good.

So he can figure it out.

We'll see.

This team sucks.

Remember, we had the conversation the other day about.

Yeah, sure, you're right.

No, no, no, I'm not saying that, but Kevin Petulo, it feels like it's like Kellen Moore last year was a very good play caller.

And then, is it the play calling?

Is it

yep, it doesn't help.

Yes, Jalen Hurts just missed a wide open fucking A.J.

Brown on this pick that should have been a pick six.

First, yeah, whatever.

Where's A.J.

Brown?

Hold on, let me see him.

Oh, man.

The signs.

I think that was, I think that interception might have been to Dotson.

It was.

Yeah.

Oh, but you're saying A.J.

Brown was wide open.

Yes, he was.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, he was wide open on the play if he had gone to him.

The best offensive series that the Eagles had by far tonight was from the four-yard line.

They ran four tush pushes in a row.

Yeah, I saw a lot of people, like, I saw a bunch of tweets being like, ban the tush push.

This is bullshit.

This isn't football.

I think that radicalized a lot of people.

Yeah.

That moment did the casual, I don't love the tush push, but it's unfair to ban it.

Those people.

Saw the four in a row and radicalized, and now they're going to be like, fuck this play, get out of the game, because there were false starts on, I think, almost almost all of them, too.

Yeah.

But it was kind of fun to watch, just we're going to run the same thing over and over again, and the Giants can't stop us.

But in the second half, yeah, the Eagles' offense, they stunk.

They were very, very bad.

The defense sucked, too.

Well, you guys were missing Jalen Carter and Quinyon Mitchell, no?

Doesn't matter.

They still fucking sucked.

You guys are at the top of the NFC East.

You're the rest of the

Super Bowl champions.

You're the returning Super Bowl champions.

You're the top of the NFC East.

If you could have said, you know, going into this year, like after six games, you're going to be at the top of the NFC East.

And losing to the Giants?

You know.

Jackson Dart.

The Giants might be good.

The Giants fucking suck.

They're at the top of the NFC East for now, Hank.

You get a little bit of a break now.

Mini buy.

I want a permanent buy.

I want a permanent Giant.

You want a permanent buy?

I want to stop watching sports.

You want a permanent buy?

This is what everyone keeps saying.

You just want a Super Bowl.

You just want a Super Bowl.

The pain of losing is 50 billion times worse than the joy of winning.

It's not even close.

So, like, I don't give a fuck that we just want a Super Bowl.

But right now,

we're just losing the Phillies.

Yeah, you're mixing your Phillies.

But the Eagles are dead.

The Eagles fucking sucked.

The Eagles suck.

You guys didn't watch this game tonight.

They fucking suck.

I understand, understand, but you are like, this is Phillies.

If the Phillies had been eliminated on Wednesday and this game happened on Thursday, I think you would obviously be in the same mental state of like, I want a permanent buy from all of sports, but you'd be able to separate them a little bit more.

It was bang, bang.

Yeah.

I don't think you guys understand how fucking bad they were tonight.

No, they looked any team in the NFL would have fucking smoked.

I think if you guys lost to the Dodgers like 4-1 and just didn't, like, I think it's the way you lost.

It's an unbelievable way to get eliminated from the postseason.

It's an unbelievable way.

You got double bang tonight.

Yeah.

This is a double bang.

Don't forget about the Flyers.

And the Flyers, too.

Triple bang.

Don't care.

Did the Union win tonight?

I don't know.

No, the Union won some bullshit cup the other day.

I honestly don't know what cup they won, but they won something.

And everyone was like, at least we have the fucking union.

The union or MLS?

Some shield, right?

We want a shield?

We want a shield.

Well, you got a shield, Max.

That's pretty cool.

Fuck the union.

Damn, that's scab.

You're scab.

No, that's some Confederacy shit right there.

Oh, fuck.

But yeah, Max,

you were diagnosed tonight.

with a disease that I didn't know existed.

We had a name for it, which is early onset Fleming.

Fleming, yeah.

But Frank had the night that I had tonight, he would legitimately be dead.

Like,

that is not hyperbole.

He would be dead.

He has never had that night.

Frank said, Max has flamentia,

which I never heard from.

Frank does that when the Mets lose in July.

And then Mikey Bett said, 100% diagnosis.

And Frank said, look at the videos.

So Frank is basically watching Max videos being like, man, this guy needs to chill out.

Yeah.

Flamentia.

Flamentia.

There's some other stuff that came out about the Eagles afterwards, some more drama.

What, that they just fucking suck?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was part of it.

Or Diane Rossini.

That was a pretty big part of it.

She's the fucking worst.

You are memes.

This is Mike Garoffilo after the game.

He said, A.J.

Brown was asked about the meeting with Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley this week.

Repeatedly says he didn't recall any meeting.

When told Hurts and Barkley confirmed it, he says you'd have to talk to them.

Oh.

Because

the meeting that allegedly happened was Jalen Hurts and Saquon talking with AJ about, like, let's all get on the same page, let's gel as a team, let's work together, get over our differences, and we can all eat.

And yeah, AJ was just like, I don't recall that meeting.

Saquon also all of a sudden sucks now.

No one's talking about that.

Let's talk about it.

He's horrible.

He's been horrible all year.

What is that?

Maybe he hurled that guy.

The whole team sucks.

Everyone sucks.

Wrong.

Dallas Scott looked good tonight.

Okay.

He's on the last year of his contract.

He's fucking gone.

Howie, dude.

Done.

Everything's done.

Blow it up.

Blow up.

Start every single team from ground zero.

Every single one of them.

Siriani's earned the benefit of the doubt.

He's a good coach.

Also, the union just won a shield.

I'm done with the union.

Can't blow up the union.

Dude, the union will stand strong.

He got a fucking shield.

He must stand strong.

He won the shield, Max.

There were also some articles that came out today about Cam Scataboo, and this guy, he is exactly who you think he is.

I saw some of these quotes.

So good.

His buddies on the team were talking about what it's like getting to meet him.

One guy said, the first time I met him,

we said like three words, and he just head-butted me, and then we just became friends after that.

One of the tight ends on the team was talking about their first time at a special teams meeting.

Coach asked, What's our job?

Our job is to play with speed, get off the ball.

And this animal just goes, Physicality.

He starts screaming physicality.

Barrel, he just yells all the time.

Yeah, he's he's exactly what this league needs right now.

Yeah, Gutter Olszewski said he's genuinely an idiot.

Yeah.

He's a crayon eater.

Yeah.

The best.

It also is very funny because I don't know how, like,

if you watch any college football last year, you're like, this guy's the man.

Yeah.

How did he fall that far in the draft?

He's the fucking man.

I just didn't think that

the NFL didn't think that Cam Scataboo could run over people in the league like he did in college.

And it turns out he can, and he will.

I think he could run over just about anybody.

It was, yeah, it was, it was.

a lot of fun and watching Daybull

just like

bask in the fact that his job might be saved is so funny, too.

By some meatheads?

Yeah, by some meatheads.

He didn't even fucking did it for him.

And he's now like trying to identify with the meatheads.

It's almost like Jackson Dart is his Jordan.

Yeah.

Because after the game, he was talking to the media and he hit him with a 6-7 and started like moving his...

He's like trying to speak Zoomer.

Oh, my God.

He's like, yeah, Jackson's going to love this.

Hey, Jackson, look at this clip.

I said 6'7.

It's so fucking good.

It's so good.

Max, can we do anything to cheer you up?

End the show.

Oh, come on.

Just let's just, let's.

This was a good show.

Let's go home.

Let me go fucking edit this and

let's be done.

Big cat.

RIP sister Gene, by the way.

What are you guys doing this weekend?

I'm going to Baton Rouge.

Pup Punk is going to play at Fred's on Friday night.

It's going to be so much fun.

I got a game five

on Saturday.

All my focus is on that.

I'm chilling.

I got to miss.

I don't have much planned.

Can just relax.

You're going to watch baseball?

Watching baseball.

Why'd you ask?

Just trying to wrap up the show for Max.

Ask anyone else.

Zach?

Probably Batfield 6.

Okay, nice, nice.

Memes, what are you up to?

About the beta.

Beta?

I'm happy to go to the wedding.

Fuck all this shit.

Where is it?

It's in Connecticut.

I'm happy to go.

What time do you?

I don't want to see any of you for 48 hours or any single person close to chicago that's fair

what uh

what time's your flight

i have done nothing to prepare for this trip

because i wasn't going to go if

we already talked about that

i have to do

so much

memes what are you up to big dog i'm gonna watch college football do you want me to edit the show

no i will edit the show i will do my job no you can have memes i will I will edit the show.

I will edit the show.

Memes, sorry your hater parlay didn't win.

It's okay.

Yeah.

It's a tough one.

I'm sure he had a backup one that was just Philly.

That's a tough.

Did you have a backup one that was just Philly?

No, I cashed out.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, I actually won.

Won money?

Yeah.

Even you couldn't go through with it.

No, that was devastating.

I have some stats about the Eagles, Max.

You might want to take your headphones off.

I'm not saying this to rub it into the.

No, keep on the headphones.

Come on, we'll finish right now.

The Eagles, through six weeks, are now minus one in point differential.

They've been out-gained every single game this year.

They are the second Super Bowl champion to be out-gained in yardage in each of their first five games to start the next season.

Even Zach went like oof on that one.

Yeah, it's

things are not

outstanding right now in Philadelphia.

And when Max says that they stink,

I would still say that the Eagles have the bones of a very good football team.

And they can be very good.

All they need is for their guys to believe in them.

NFC Beast.

They need Philly.

NFC Beast is back.

The Beast is back.

I mean, Cowboys are frisky.

Giants are good.

Eagles are

Super Bowl champs.

Commanders.

Commanders are good.

Like NFC Beast.

NFC Beast.

Yeah.

That's got to feel good, Max.

Max?

He doesn't have the headphones on.

Do you have any final questions for Max?

I don't.

Yeah.

It's tense.

It's tense in here.

It's good that Hank is facing away from Max right now.

Yeah.

I know Max hasn't looked up a single time.

And I also want to give credit to Max.

Max,

he

realized that he was in a very volatile state tonight, so he did things like removed himself from situations where he would be around others or cameras.

He is not making eye contact with us because he knows that that's a trigger.

We need like a weighted blanket.

Yeah, he needs a thunder shirt.

Yeah.

How bad was it?

I mean,

Max was overall pretty good.

He had a few outbursts where he got overalls.

It was overalls pretty good.

Are the overalls retired?

Overalls won a Super Bowl.

Yeah.

So the overalls are not retired.

The pigtail is a billion, billion percent retired.

Max, can we just finish with this?

You

tonight sucked.

You got a great life.

You just won a Super Bowl.

You got a great life.

You got a ton of friends.

Everyone loves you.

I genuinely love you.

I say that to you all the time.

I love you.

You're great at your job.

You got a great life.

Yep.

Thank you.

I don't know.

I'm just trying to.

We care about you, Max.

Thank you.

Thank you, guys.

It's okay.

I will be okay.

When you had your headphones off.

When you had your headphones off, I was saying that you did a good job regulating yourself.

You work your ass off.

And it's, listen, it sucks having to watch your teams lose on live stream.

Yeah.

It's not fun.

That's not a fun experience.

Yeah.

And you are willing and able to do it.

So

just we got to like put in maybe the video of you doing drinking out of your boot.

That was peak Max.

Yeah.

On top of the moon.

And when you say, like, the, the misery of the painful losses aren't worth the joy of the ultimate championships, that's not true.

Yeah.

That's not true.

You had so much fun in New Orleans.

I don't know.

This today was bad.

You got to hang out with Big Dom.

Today was bad.

Think about how good 2018 Villanova was.

I just can't.

I can't believe he threw it home.

Why did he throw it home?

Yeah, why it was so it was right there.

It was coming up next inning

not not the top of the order.

I mean, the top of the order fucking sucks, so it wouldn't, it doesn't even matter who it is.

They were gonna lose that, they were gonna lose that game anyway.

It's just a way, the way that you lost is like so embarrassing.

Like, if you lose that game, like Shohei just like pisses on one, it's like, what are you gonna do?

Shohei was one for

22 with like 12 K's.

He looked lost.

I just don't know how you go home.

Oh.

He knew it.

That's a tough shot.

Him hanging his head on the mound.

Yeah, it's just like he.

He had him easily at first.

JT just pointing at first as he's throwing it at his face.

And then Pajas or whatever,

he didn't touch home when he first ran home.

He had to turn around and go back.

He did go get it.

Yeah, no, he did eventually.

But like

he ran over.

He's the catcher, yeah.

He's just pointing.

Yeah.

Like, dude, what are you fucking doing?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

Just throw it to first base.

Like, if he overthrew first base,

that would be one thing.

If he made the right play, he just didn't execute.

He made the wrong play, and he didn't execute the wrong play as well.

Oh.

You got Tanner McKee?

Oh, the pitching just fucking.

Don't say Tanner McKee.

You got Tanner McKee.

Stop it.

Does that make you happy?

No.

Oh.

That's an asshole thing to say.

You got fucking Marcus Mariota.

He's a great packup.

I love him.

Jalen Hurts will figure it out, Max.

You know that's a fact.

Like, the Eagles are bad right now.

They will bounce back.

They're too good of a team to not bounce back.

I don't know.

Two years ago, they didn't bounce back.

Okay.

This could could just be.

But they're better than they were two years ago.

You don't know that.

Well, I'm saying talent-wise.

You don't know that.

I'm pretty sure they are.

They just won a Super Bowl, and their roster is pretty similar.

So.

The coaching.

Coaching sucks.

Kevin Petullo is just not.

I mean, it's the same thing.

It's the same thing.

We just don't have an offensive coordinator who can call plays, and our quarterback is just not playing a good quarterback right now.

He's just not.

What percentage of Philadelphia sports fans do you think are going to listen to sports podcasts tomorrow?

None.

Zero.

I don't know.

If any of them do, they're sick.

They're disgusting.

Give it to them.

I'm talking to you people right.

If any Phillies fan is listening to me right now, I'm telling you, you're sick.

You're perverted.

You're demented.

You got something wrong with you.

Flamentia.

Yeah.

All right.

Let's do.

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Week six.

I don't want to say it.

Don't say it.

No, I thought about this this morning.

I was like, it's about that time of year where Big Cat

where Big Cat says it for the first time, and then I get mad at Big Cat.

I'm going to say it for the listeners.

I have to say it.

I hate that we have a London game the fucking weekend that we change the clocks.

It's the worst.

It is the worst.

I'm sorry you didn't want me to say it.

I agree.

Changing our clocks on Saturday and then having to get up early for the 8.30 game.

It sucks.

Do you not agree?

No, because

you actually have to wake up at like, it's pretty much midnight because you watch Roger Goodell climb up Big Ben and he pulls the little hand all the way around and everybody claps and they give it up for him and then you get depressed.

Yeah.

So I'm sorry, but I had to say it because I don't want the Ada Bills to like miss the marathon or miss some meeting that they have because they forgot to change their clocks.

Okay.

You ready, Hank?

Hell yeah.

I can't wait to hear about the Hungry Dog this week.

Hell yeah.

The whole crew should ride.

Yeah.

Let's start, though, with the London game.

Oh, by the way, here's a little fun note.

So we have Vikings and Texans on by.

Did you know that through the first five weeks, the NFC is 18-9 against the spread in their 27 games versus the AFC?

I did not know that.

NFC.

Battle for

some conference pride.

Yes.

So NFC is it right now.

Lamar Jackson isn't holding up his end of the bargain.

Yes.

That's the problem.

That's fair.

Broncos, the Jets.

Jets plus seven and a half.

Over-under is 43.5.

Here's another one that stunned me because we, I think, on this show have, it might be the Jake Marsh effect, the Lunder.

Did you know that in international games there have been 52 of them 26 and 26 over under oh i didn't know that exactly even so this is the tiebreak because we remember the stinky ones the ones where the grass is wet it looks like it's been grown out for soccer and no points are scored there's interceptions galore yeah we remember those ones um this one is going to be interesting because the last time the jets went over there they fired their coach because woody johnson he's got a lot of friends over in england if he gets embarrassed around his friends he will take drastic measures i don't think that Aaron Glenn's in danger of being fired.

I don't think that he is.

I know that memes goes back and forth.

I would be shocked if he was fired.

Memes?

I'd be shocked after this week if he was fired.

Yeah.

But you want him fired.

No, only if he goes 0-17.

I just don't think you could bring someone back if they can't figure out how to win one football game.

I think that Aaron Glenn at least knows that they're 0-5 because he said, we know exactly where we're at.

We're not hiding from the fact.

Yes, we're 0-5.

We understand that.

We understand that we have a lot of work to do.

We're not running from that all.

So he's he, the news has gotten to him that he's 0-5.

Memes, I have an insult stat.

I don't know if you want to hear it.

It's not directed to you, but I think it's interesting to bring up on the show.

You can opt out of the stat if you want.

Would you like to opt out?

No, it's here.

Okay, the stat is looking back at Robert Salah's last 17 games as coach for the Jets.

They had the best defense in the NFL

in that 17-game span.

Okay.

And since that time period, they have the worst defense in the NFL.

Overall, last place, 32nd.

How was the defense the season he got fired?

I'm talking about the games.

I know, but no, no, no, no, no.

The games he was coaching.

Yeah.

The defense

of the last season leading up to him getting

is what you're going at?

The last few games, but overall.

Overall, I know what you're saying.

His brother tweeted that out.

Okay.

Oh, his brother tweeted that out.

Respect.

Very funny.

That's big-time respect.

Yeah.

I am my brother's keeper.

How bad were the last few games?

They couldn't stop the run.

And now it's just essentially piled up to this point where you still have the same guys from that defense who now still can't play defense.

Got it.

Is the quote, I am my brother's keeper?

I'm not my brother's keeper.

I'm not my brother's keeper.

Yeah.

Zach, Cassie your tattoo real quick.

I believe the quote is I'm double-layered.

It is my brother's keeper, is the quote.

Are you sure?

Yeah.

Cassie a tattoo?

Yeah.

What does it say?

It just.

It's my.

Yeah.

What does yours say?

Mine says my brother's keeper.

Ah.

So you are.

Oh, so shout out to Nick.

That might be the quote.

Yeah.

There we go.

Shout out to Nick.

Is that like Cain and Abel?

Is it biblical?

I believe there is like a loose biblical tie.

People always forget about Seth.

They do.

It's fucking bullshit.

It's just right there.

This is a big, like, I think the Broncos are going to win.

This is a big

test for the Broncos in the fact that they went, had a,

I would say, the defining win in the Sean Payton Bo Nicks era against the Eagles on Sunday.

They actually did travel right from Philadelphia, which I like.

I would call it signature win.

Signature win.

How do they respond to the signature wind?

You know,

you got to beat the Jets, and you got to beat them pretty strongly here because the Jets are bad.

Did you see how Sean Payton's approaching this week?

This is the very definition of a business trip.

Okay.

When coaches are always like, business trip, it's a business trip.

This is a business trip.

They're doing the exact same thing that they do when they're in Denver on the same days.

No sightseeing allowed.

Okay.

Because Sean Payton, they asked him about other times he's gone on the trip.

He said one time Jeremy Schockey tried to get everybody's passport and take the team to Amsterdam on an off day.

So we put the kibosh on that.

They should have been allowed to go to Amsterdam.

Yeah, they should have.

If Jeremy Schockey asks you, hey, can we go to Amsterdam?

You say yes.

Absolutely.

You want to see how that one plays plays out.

But they're doing like the exact same schedule over there.

They went over early, but so did the Jets.

Jets went on Monday.

The Jets went on Monday.

The Broncos went early in the week, too.

I do think that the Broncos should handle business over there.

Yeah.

The dams a lot of points.

The Jets, you just can't get blown out in front of Woody Johnson's friends.

No.

I have a way to attack this game.

You ready for this?

If the Jets are losing by, let's say, two scores,

Justin Fields this season,

stats by quarter.

First First quarter, 114 yards, one touchdown.

Second quarter, 173 yards, zero touchdowns.

Third quarter, 169 yards, zero touchdowns.

Fourth quarter, 300 yards, three touchdowns.

He's a closer.

I think that if the Jets are getting blown out, we need to bet live bet overs for Justin Fields going into the fourth quarter.

Okay.

Anyone like that strategy?

I'm into that.

I would be fine with the Jets starting Tarad and then putting Justin Fields in just in the fourth quarter.

That's what I'm hearing right now.

Yeah.

The closer.

No, yeah.

I'm down for that.

Okay.

100%.

We'll monitor that.

All right, next game.

Cardinals at Colts.

Cardinals are plus seven.

Kyler Murray, so the over-under is 46.5.

Kyler Murray actually is a pretty good against the spread quarterback as a dog on the road.

So he's

33.

Actually, this is just as a dog.

He's 33 and 18 against the spread as a dog in all six of his NFL seasons.

Actually, the best record as a dog in the last six years.

So he should be allowed to wear the Mike Vick jersey.

He should be allowed to wear the Mike Vick jersey.

I'm wondering.

So the Colts are awesome.

The Colts are great.

I'm wondering where the head of the Arizona Cardinals is because we had Jonathan Gannon getting fined for pushing a player.

Yeah, the team fined him.

The team fined him $100,000.

It was the first time I think a coach has been fined since Bruce Arians a few years ago got fined for

hitting someone in the head or something.

Did they not fine Andy Reid for bumping his stomach up on Travis Kelsey this year?

Not.

They did not.

He's not protecting Travis Kelsey.

Yeah.

Kyler Murray has a foot injury.

Zach, what is Call of Duty B07 Beta?

Black Ops 7 is the newest Call of Duty title from Treyarch.

The beta is currently out, which is like a preview of what the full title will be.

Can you play the beta?

Yes, sir.

It's a limited.

Tyler Murray could be playing the beta.

Yeah, he is playing the beta.

He's probably on the game.

He might be playing.

On and off the field.

Yeah,

the foot injury actually does concern me a little bit because it's a toe.

And I've learned a lot about turf toe this year.

Not good.

And turf toe is not good.

Even if it's not really that extreme of a case, it's probably not easy to push off that foot.

Yeah, I'm going to have a hard time trusting Kyler as a dog in this one.

Yeah, I mean, well, Jacoby Brissette, still there, still around.

Alive.

He is still alive.

Marvin Harrison said he has full trust in Jacoby.

So that has to make you feel good.

That's really what Elsie would say.

That would be crazy if he came out and was like, yeah, you know what?

We're fucked.

Our backup quarterback, it's going to suck.

We're fucked.

So when we talked about the DiMarcado dropping the ball on the one-inch line last week,

I went back and I read some interviews with Gannon.

Yeah.

And

he said that he actually did show the entire team the clip of A.D.

Mitchell the week before being like, do not do this.

So what you're doing right here?

See what he did right here?

Don't do that.

No, I actually, that makes makes me think that Gannon was more responsible for it.

The fact that he put it in all their heads.

Oh, like, because think about it, nobody dropped the ball at the one-yard line until Deshaun Jackson did it.

Yep, and then everybody saw, and they're like, whoa, we can do that?

Yeah, like the tiny little thought, the intrusive thought, crept in the back of your head.

Nobody had ever thought before, like, oh, maybe what if I just don't carry the ball into the end zone?

Yeah.

But now that you see it, if it's in front of you, you should just not talk about it at all, Arrender.

Yeah.

Did you see Jason Whitlock went there?

I did not.

Jason Whitlock

just, I, you know, everyone's like, hey, that was a really dumb play.

He decided to go a little zag.

He's like, never seen a white guy drop the ball in the end zone.

Okay.

Yeah.

Thank you, Jason Whitlock.

Now, appreciate you entering the discourse.

Now, this is also, you know, Jason Whitlock, obviously, we talked about it a couple weeks ago.

He says Alabama too gay to be

he was right about that one.

He was spot on about that one.

If I were to argue that, which I'm not, because far be it for me to argue against Jason Whitlock when it comes to knowing ball, but but would you say that the vast majority of touchdown scorers in the NFL

sample size are black players?

Yeah.

And then white players don't.

We do score sometimes, but I mean, it's tough to drop the ball on the one-inch line when you're getting the ball on the one-inch line as a fullback.

Right.

It was just such a funny, like,

everyone is in universal agreement.

That's a really stupid thing to say.

And Jason Whitlock's like, raises his hands, like, hey, let me just make this toxic.

Is it a race thing?

Yeah.

Is it a race thing?

It's a very weird thing.

It is.

But I just wouldn't say anything about it if I was a coach.

I'd be like, I'm just going to trust the guys to not do the stupidest thing of all time.

Also, in defense, I'm not defending dropping the ball at the goal line, but if you could time it right, it would look sweet.

If you actually, yeah, if you can nail it where you drop it so close that the touchdown counts and then they have to review it and you're like, dude, I obviously crossed the goal line.

That's actually kind of cool.

Guys should start doing that.

Then you get like an extra five minutes of everybody watching your replay of scoring an awesome touchdown in super slow motion.

Yes.

And that goes on the highlight reel.

Coach, I'm fine.

They break out the high-def cameras that you don't normally see for the replays and they slow it.

They stop it.

It's a lot of camera time for you.

Good for your brand.

Exactly.

If you're one of these guys.

Exactly.

By the way, Daniel Jones never in his career with the Giants never put up 40 points.

He's done it two times so far this season.

Yeah, the Colts.

Awesome.

The Colts are great.

Daniel Jones is great.

The Colts are leading the league in yards per play and points per game.

They've got six and a half yards per play, 30.8 points per game.

They're just good.

They're just good.

I think I've reached the part of the season where I'm not, even if they have a bad loss, I'm not willing to say they're turning back into a pumpkin.

They've done enough.

They're off pumpkin watch.

I do kind of like the Cardinals this week, though.

Just out of,

and this is solely based on the Colts winning 40-6, the Cardinals getting their guts ripped out again, meeting the middle.

I think the Colts win, but seven?

I don't know.

I'm betting against Kyler's foot this week.

Yeah.

That's what I'm doing.

Okay, next game.

Tickets.

Tickets.

What do we want to do for tickets?

Shout out to the guy that reached out last week.

Yeah.

Blew a giant bubble.

Oh, grossest toe.

Shortest guy.

Sickest Call of Duty play.

No,

what about someone reenacting?

Show us you crossing the line and dropping it as close to the line as possible.

Yeah.

Make a video of you slow-mo.

We could do that.

Yeah.

Yeah, Okay.

I want to review a video of it.

I'm in.

Yeah.

You know what also concerns me about Gannon hitting DiMercado after that?

He wouldn't do that to a guy that he was afraid of.

Yeah, true.

He's not afraid of.

He needs to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He needs to.

Di Mercato's got to get in the weight room.

He's got to step his game up.

All right.

Next up.

Tag memes in that.

Chargers at Dolphins.

Yeah.

Tag memes.

Chargers at Dolphins, Dolphins plus four and a half.

Over under is 44.5.

We got no Najee Harris.

We got no Amarion Hampton.

We do have, though, Hassan Haskins, who scored 20 touchdowns in his senior year, playing for

Jim Harbaugh.

Hmm.

Maybe.

Yeah, I mean,

this is going to be an ultimate Jim Harbaugh challenge week because

he wants to run the football.

He wants to be physical.

The Dolphins are the worst in the NFL against the run.

Yep.

And the Chargers are banged up.

We'll see how committed he is to the run game because I think they probably should still be able to run the football.

Yeah, and this is obviously a weird,

definitely not a rivalry game, but it always is.

It's a sliding doors game because you have the Justin Herbert discourse with Tua, same draft class, Dolphins could have taken him, all that stuff.

Yeah, this is a sliding doors game.

I went back, I watched some interviews with McDaniel and some of the game film with McDaniel in that game against the Broncos where they almost set the NFL scoring record.

Yep.

And he looks like a completely different guy.

He's so downtrodden.

It's mostly the hair, too.

The hair is just like completely disheveled now.

He was high and tight back then, had the beard all trimmed up, and now he just looks like a mountain man.

I also wouldn't hate if McDaniel's like, listen, it's going bad right now.

Hot seat, season's falling apart, bad vibes.

Maybe just come out on Sunday with pants that go all the way down to your shoes.

That'd be a good idea.

Yeah, maybe.

Just try something different.

You know,

everyone's got to do their part.

Why don't you get some pants that go all the way down to your shoes?

I'm beginning to think that when he did not go for a field goal at the end of that game, when he took his foot off the gas on that last drive against the Broncos and he decided he was not going to set the all-time NFL scoring record,

that cursed the Dolphins from that point on.

It's like you turned your back on history.

Nobody had scored 70 points in like 50 years in the NFL.

And with a touchdown, he would have set the all-time record, which might stand for forever.

Who knows?

And he just said, you know what?

I'm not going to do it.

I'm not going to do it.

And I think that's what did it.

The football gods were angry.

Yeah, he they spit in their face.

Yep.

I think this game, Justin Herbert,

they can't protect him.

I think this is like if they don't win this game and Justin Herbert gets beat up again, Jim Harbaugh might have a nervous breakdown.

Yeah.

Maybe

he feels every hit.

He feels every hit that Justin Herbert takes.

Maybe before the game, maybe take it easy when it comes to doing the shoulder pad punching and the chest punching.

Yeah, it's one extra hit.

One extra hit.

You want to limit those to your quarterback.

Their offensive line was not good, especially for the second half last week.

And I did feel bad for Justin Herbert because it's not like he played poorly.

Yeah.

Well, Dolphins' defense is bad.

Yep.

And I don't know where the Dolphins' head is going to be at after, like, that was a game they should have won against the Panthers and blew it.

So, okay.

Did you know that Keenan Allen is just, I think he's 67 receptions away from Antonio Gates?

No, that's not true.

He's 22 receptions away from Antonio Gates' franchise record of catches, which is crazy because if you'd asked me that, I would be like, yeah, Antonio Gates by a mile.

Yeah.

But yeah, he's.

Fastest to 1,000 yard receptions was crazy.

Yeah, so it looks like he will be setting that record this year.

Yeah.

Again, I think they need to phrase that stat differently.

You can't be the fastest to something if it takes you, if it takes everyone like 12 plus years to get there.

I think you can say the least slow guy.

Yeah, or he got it the quickest.

I don't know.

The first two.

The first two.

Yeah, the fastest you always think like, oh, he's like 24.

How the fuck did he do that?

Yeah.

Puka Nakua having like the fastest to a certain yard markage.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

Keenan Allen is 33 years old and been in the NFL for a very long time, but credit to him.

The fastest to do it.

Okay, next up, we've got the Patriots at Saints.

Hank, Patriots at Saints.

How are we feeling?

This is a must-win.

This might be a bigger must win than last week.

It does feel like

you guys have the easiest remaining schedule.

Yep.

These are the games you got got to win.

Yep.

It's a big letdown spot.

It's a huge letdown spot.

Would you say maybe it's a letdown spot for both teams?

No.

The Saints just won.

Okay, so here's, I looked this up.

Remember, we talked about quarterbacks that started 0-10, and I gave you the list.

Three of them never won a game.

That was Zach Metenberger, Brody Croyle, and Deshaun Kaiser.

Stan Gelbaugh, the legend, we talked about him.

He won in his 11th start.

The last guy who actually won a game after was Derek Carr, who went on to have a long career.

But the game after he won his first start, they lost 52-0 to the St.

Louis Rams.

That's what we need.

Does that mean anything?

Now, this is

probably not because it's a stat that quotes the Oakland Raiders versus St.

Louis Rams,

which gives you a sense of the time here.

I think that this wasn't that long ago.

Yeah, it was like

12 years ago.

I look at these two teams, and they're both riding high off big wins.

One was their first one, the other was beating a division foe, the Bills that everybody thought, okay, this is the team, the passing of the torch game, as Hank said.

Super Bowl favorites.

And I, Super Bowl favorites, I look at the two coaches, and I'm like, which one of these two coaches is more likely to have a letdown game or to like not follow up a good result with another good result?

And I think that that would be Kellen Moore.

I think Frable seems like the guy that would be

Frabel is a big underdog guy.

Like, he remember in Tennessee, it was just, you know, there would always be these games.

That was what happened on Sunday night.

Like, the primetime game.

Oh, man.

No way do the Bills lose.

That's Frabel.

And Drake May was phenomenal.

Drake May outplayed Josh Allen.

He's like, he's very, very good.

What?

I love hearing you say that.

That's a beautiful sentence.

No, it's a great thing.

That's a great thing to hear.

That's just a great sentence to hear.

Drake May outplayed Josh Allen.

Josh Allen in that game.

How come his alma mater won't even give him any credit for it?

They did.

They tweeted.

Where are you at with

your die-hard UNC Tar Heels football fan?

It seems like, well, they had to come out and make a statement that Bill Belichick is not retiring, which is never a good sign.

Or, like, we're committed to Bill.

Yeah, we're committed.

He's committed.

They're committed to Bill.

He's committed.

This is a big game for the Patriots.

I think it's like they got to just come out and drop 40 on the Saints and

keep it rolling for the rest of the season.

Because this is, they lose this game, it's kind of come back down to life.

If we win this game, looking at our schedule,

the AFC East is bad.

Mahomes is washed.

Josh Allen is good, but Lamar's injured.

Burroughs injured.

This

is the big game.

He's washed.

Washed.

He's 2-3.

He's under 500.

He's washed.

Hank, that was a great.

He just, we're on to Cincinnati, dude.

Yeah.

He just said New Orleans, New Orleans, New Orleans, when asked about Bill Belichick.

That that was good will you be a will you do us this uh next wednesday and we talk college football will you please give a state of the union an address bill belich

i would like to see maybe a statement that you release on the show

you have a week to prepare i'll think about it okay so they said that bill was looking for a soft landing spot i did it it what probably not my place to do this we talk but i did offer him a position on the cream team and no no you're you're allowed to do that zach said that he would review his resume or review his application.

So you're making Bill Belichick apply to be a member of the cream team.

Yeah, I'd run his application up to the front office and get it to the right guys.

I guess my only question, because I would think Bill Belichick would be great on the cream team.

Attention to detail, do your job.

Yeah.

What's Jordan's situation, Jordan?

Is she micromanaging Zach and Jacob, which would be a hilarious usual?

Yeah, no, I think that she would actually go to the top of the cream team hierarchy.

Are you okay with that?

That we just report to Jordan?

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, she'd become my boss, too.

Okay.

Yeah.

She would own this company within three days.

All right.

So, yeah, so offer for employment on the cream team.

Hank, so the Patriots are doing a whiteout.

Yep.

You're a big Penn State guy.

We are, yep.

I got a question for you.

Which coach do you think has had the worst

post-coaching career or post-coaching life?

Bill Belichick or Joe Paterno?

Bill, Joe Paterno.

You think so?

It was over pretty quickly, though.

Yeah, I mean,

his post-coaching career was just he died.

Listen, if we're going to call, you know.

Is that worse than Bill Belchick?

Leaving the NFL, getting a smoke show girlfriend that's significantly younger than you, and then getting paid to not work, possibly.

I don't think that's too bad.

Yeah.

Make while you were addressing the media here, me and PFT, I had a question for you.

Dan.

What would you like to say to the people that have accused you of being racist for, quote, tweeting the tweet from the New England Patriots saying all white, and you said, we are?

I was going to save it for Fire

for Firefest, but yeah, I.

I would just say you're a fucking loser.

No, no, no, save for Firefest.

And you should.

All right.

Save for Firefest.

This is a great teaser.

We will be addressing Hank being alleged racist during Firefest this week.

I have a question for you, Hank.

Eric.

You don't get to do that.

You don't get to do that.

Dan Campbell, Jersey Jerry.

Hit him with the Hardy.

Yeah.

Well, is it where it's impressed?

We're not co-workers.

You're like, you're the media.

Mr.

Commerce.

Mr.

Comment.

Yeah, government.

Well, you're

Mr.

Commenter.

I'm Mr.

Mr.

Commenter from Part of My Take Podcast.

Yes.

All right.

Thank you for acknowledging that.

When was the last time the Patriots had a three-game winning streak?

I would probably guess 2021.

No, 2022.

2022.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that would be a break, that would be combo breaker for them this week.

Yeah, last time we played the Saints, I think we lost 13-0.

That was like the maximums that were.

Oh, and the sun was so

shining so bright of all time.

But yeah, it's like, again, I know it's like I was talking to memes and some of the Zoopie, like our Browns guys.

It's like rebuilding, going through a rebuild is tough, but there is light at the end of the tunnel, and it's like

looking back on those dark times.

Like, it was dark.

We lost the Saints 13-0 not too long ago, and now look where we are.

Like, that is possible.

Okay, so that's a good segue.

We'll go to Browns-Steelers.

So mean.

Steelers minus five and a half, over-under is 37.5.

The last time the Browns won a regular season in Pittsburgh, anyone want to guess the year?

Baker Mayfield, COVID.

Regular season.

I'm going to say he did win there.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm going to say

this

2000 guy.

Who's the porn guy?

Josh McCowan.

Oh,

2012.

The last time the Cleveland Browns won a game, a regular season game in Pittsburgh was October 5th, 2003.

Oh, my God.

That is 21 years.

It was Tim Couch versus the combo of Tommy Maddox Chaz Batch.

I was a freshman.

That's insane.

A freshman in college.

Yeah.

We're one month into college.

That is.

So much life has happened.

That is insane.

They didn't have GPSs back then.

Facebook wasn't invented?

You had to print out

smartphones weren't invented.

I had a physical map in my car.

Yeah, oh, yeah.

That I used to do.

Print it out, right?

Yeah.

It's crazy.

That's a long time.

That is the most depressing stat I've ever heard.

It's very vague.

In my entire life.

Now, the Steelers, they lucked out.

Yeah.

The Steelers lucked out.

They ducked Joe Flacco.

They probably had something to do behind the scenes being like, hey, can you trade Joe now so we don't have to play against him this weekend?

Yep.

Mike Tomlin does respect him a lot.

Yep.

Yeah.

Mike Tomlin also very good against rookie quarterbacks.

Yep.

Very good.

26-6 against rookie quarterbacks.

But two Browns rookies have beaten Mike Tomlin.

That's true.

DTR, Brandon Whedon.

But those were in Cleveland obviously.

Those were in Cleveland, yeah.

I'm obsessed now with Kevin Stefanski, friend of the program, his answers to questions, hard questions, because he was asked about Deshaun Watson this week, and he responded, I understand the question, but I'm really focused on this week.

Yeah.

I just like him saying that I think that's the second time this year he said that.

Like, I understand your question.

It's a very nice way of saying, don't fucking ask me that again.

Yeah, I don't want to talk about it.

We are not here to talk about Deshaun Watson.

Did you see the list of Browns quarterbacks and their cap hits?

No.

That

this week?

It was quite literally the drill tweet it was uh the browns 2025 quarterback cap hits jameis winson 2.2 million dollars dead dylan gabriel 1.1 million dollars alive joe flacco 999 000 deador sanders shador sanders 955 000 active deshaun watson 35.9 million pup Bailey Zappi, 315,000 practice squad.

DTR, 171,000 dead.

Kenny Pickett, 8,000 dead.

It's just a bunch of

Deshaun Watson just buried in there at 35.9.

It's crazy.

Yeah, help me with my budget.

I've been bullied into taking the Steelers by our good friend Jersey Jerry.

I kind of like the Browns, but I also don't know how they're going to score.

I said the stat on Monday's show.

It's 10 straight weeks, regular season weeks, that they have failed to go over 17 points.

And I don't have the stat in front of me, but we always say every single season, Mike Tomlin after a buy.

Right.

And I feel like that's something that's a trend.

I feel like he's very, very, very good after a buy.

Yeah, I agree.

And this is also a big, like, if the Steelers win this game and the Bengals and the Ravens lose, which they are both over-a-touchdown underdogs, the Bengals are 14-point underdogs.

Steelers kind of got a little bit of a stranglehold on the AFC North.

Yeah.

Like, kind of is happening right in front of our eyes.

Yeah.

So

it's a big game.

Steelers got enough fuck this up if they want to win the AFC North because if they lose a game like this, I feel like we'll look back when Lamar gets healthy and should be like, oh shit, it's a one game in late December.

They should have probably beaten the Browns.

Yep.

Okay.

Next game up, we have Cowboys and Panthers.

We have our bet from the Meowmix guys.

We do.

Let's get it out.

I got it right here.

Yeah, put it in, show the Max, put it in live.

Go to the Panthers Cowboys game.

So if you missed Wednesday's show, Meow Mix, the now defunct Carolina Panthers podcast, we had Jerry on from it.

Really great guy.

We just love the story.

We're rooting for them.

They're doing a podcast for like a thousand people.

They're just all heart.

And then the Panthers bummed them out so much that they're like, we can't do this anymore.

They did this thing where they would bet a certain prop every single week.

And anything they won, they would roll over and donate to charity.

So we're going to take the mantle for them.

I think they're actually releasing it as well if you go follow them.

But we're also going to do it.

We're going to have a Meow Mix pick of the week that they're going to give us every week and we'll say on this show for them.

Hopefully they come back and podcast it.

I'm going to give all my winnings on this bet to charity.

If it hits, I'm going to do it to their charity, which was that St.

Jude's or the Students Hospital.

All right, children's for the kids.

For the kids.

Tet McMillan, 70-plus yards receiving.

Rico Dowdle, anytime touchdown.

I believe it pays out about three to one.

Okay.

Three to one.

That's the Meow Mix parlay.

So ride it for the kids.

Hopefully we get hot with Meow parlay.

Type McMillan, what?

70 yards.

Right now, the line's 60.

Oh, oh, right.

You could do, yeah.

Yeah, 70.

70.

And then Rico Daddle touchdown.

I like the Ricoh Dattle because the Cowboys' defense is not good.

Yeah, Rico Dattle Revenge.

Did you know that last week, and this is more of an insult stat to the Dolphins,

but last week, Carolina broke a 65-game losing streak when trailing by more than one possession at any point in the game.

Their last win before last week came in 2018.

I did not know.

Literally, if you got up by nine points or more against the Panthers since 2018, you won the game.

That's pretty sad, too.

It's pretty, pretty sad.

It's not that sad considering I just heard that Brown stat.

That's going to take a while to shake off me.

But yeah,

they haven't really had a lot of guys that can lead a comeback.

No.

Do we think the Panthers, would you classify the Panthers as bad?

Baddish.

Yes.

Okay.

Bad on the road.

They're bad.

They're baddish.

Well, I ask that because Dak is 76% straight up against bad teams, and he's 65%

against the spread against bad teams, teams under 500.

So he wins those games by 9.7 points per game.

So he beats up on these teams.

And Dak has been phenomenal.

I would say baddish.

Yeah, Dak is definitely MVP.

Yeah.

MVP consideration.

You know what

shocked, not shocked me, but Schottenheimer really should have led this with his press conference.

He's got a couple significant tattoos on his arm.

I didn't know that.

Yeah.

Look it up.

And it's just like, oh, okay.

NFL coach.

What are other?

He doesn't seem like a tattoo guy.

And then I saw it.

It's words.

It just kind of took me back.

I don't know.

Is it like, whoa, all right.

Fancy cursive.

That's yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Kind of like Zach.

Wait, Zach, can we see your cursive again?

Yeah, it's kind of like that.

Okay.

It's kind of like that.

He doesn't have the eagle, though.

Where are you going?

Why didn't you just Google this instead of searching on Twitter?

That's also, you're still searching on Twitter.

I'm copying and pasting.

You don't have to be mean.

We're not being mean.

You don't have to be mean.

No, we're just asking.

Look at that.

See?

That was pretty easy.

All right.

Yeah, that was easier.

So he's got, oh, he's got one on the hand, too.

Yeah, look.

Click the fifth picture there where he's got.

Yeah.

Yeah.

See?

He's inked up.

He's inked up big time.

I don't.

This doesn't really matter.

This doesn't mean anything.

We all have tattoos in here.

Like Zach says, everyone's got a couple.

Yep.

I just was like, oh, I didn't know that.

I wish I had known that.

You don't see a lot of head coaches with the visible tattoos.

Yeah, unless they're like former players.

But yeah,

I kind of think he's got swag now.

Kind of badass.

Yeah, a little bit, I feel a little more confident with Brian Schottenheimer now.

Hank, what do you think about this quote from Brian Schottenheimer?

Because when I first read it, it sounded like something you would say.

It'll be good to see Rico this weekend.

I know we're going to have to buckle up.

We'll bring our seatbelts.

Rico will buckle up.

Can't wait to see the guy.

That's a great quote.

It's an awesome quote.

That's how I feel.

Everyone said.

Perfect quote.

Bring our seatbelts.

It's like, yeah, Rico's coming to town, but everybody be careful because he's in one of those moods.

Did you guys see the

Fox single map that like 90% of the country is going to be watching this game?

I love looking at those maps and getting maps.

They used to mean so much because they used to actually be the only way that you would know if you're going to get to watch the game or not.

My favorite is when you see a map and there's like one dot out in Fresno, California.

You're like, oh, that's David Carr.

Yeah.

That's that's why that's going on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Rico Dottle did reply, by the way, to that, not that quote, but just saying, are you ready for your former team?

Are you ready to buckle up after his career game?

Or George Pickens on Rico Dottle telling the Cowboys to buckle up.

And Rico Dowdle said, nah, we're buckled up every week, bro.

Yeah, everyone's buckled.

We're all buckled up.

This is going to be a buckled game.

This is going to be, everyone's going to be driving exactly the speed limit, buckled up the whole time.

Safety first.

Okay, moving down the line.

Seahawks at Jags.

I love the Seahawks in this game.

I liked them last week, too.

The Jaguars were that 4-1 next to the record.

Well, so that was pretty much, this is not an X is an O.

Disrespectful.

What?

To the Jags.

Well, here's my thought process.

I like the Jags.

I bet them on Monday night.

I bet them a couple times this year.

I've thought they've been, you know, I've been a Jag believer.

That was,

I would say, the biggest win, regular season win, because I know they beat the Broncos whatever year that was

to go to the AFC championship game.

They had a couple playoff games.

They killed, they literally retired Dan Marino.

That was the biggest regular season game in Jaguars franchise history, I think.

Okay, I'm trying to think.

It might be up.

I'm trying to think the Blake Bordles year.

That Pittsburgh game was in the playoffs.

That was a great game.

Yeah, they've had some playoff games that have been really nice, but I'm talking about regular season.

Like, think about everything that was at stake.

3-1 going against the Chiefs, down 14-0-0.

Monday night.

Trevor Lawrence, Monday night.

Trevor Lawrence, like with the late game heroics.

Shad Khan saying that this is not for today, for tomorrow, it's forever.

I just, that's a lot of pressure to have that type of win.

First year head coach.

It was definitely the biggest regular season win for Trevor Lawrence in his career.

Yes.

I feel like there might be a little letdown.

There could be.

I also think that they got pretty lucky.

They played to the best.

They did a lot of good things on Monday night, but they also had a few things that broke their way.

Chiefs, and I don't want to downplay the fact that the Chiefs, you know, they got a touchdown handed to them.

But, yeah, with the Jaguars, it feels like they're a good team.

I don't think that they're a five-and-one.

We just beat the Seahawks team.

Yeah, and it's Hungry Dog.

Seahawks need to win.

Seahawks, you know, they're not a bad team.

They lost

to the Bucks in a shootout.

I think you'll get a very strong effort from the Seahawks.

I I think they should let Trevor run the ball more.

Because on Monday night,

that was by far the most like that was his running game.

He is a little goofy.

He's definitely goofy.

He's so tall.

Yeah, he's a spazz for sure.

And I think that when he's able to do that, or at least have the defense respect his ability to do that, a lot of other things might open up for him.

So let Trevor keep running the ball.

And then I was looking at the pro football focus grades for rookies.

Okay.

I believe that

two of the top five rookies right now might be Travis Hunter.

Oh.

At least two of the top 10.

Oh.

So Travis Hunter, the wide receiver, and Travis Hunter, the quarterback or cornerback.

The wide receiver is graded out as a 77.3.

The cornerback is graded out as a 76.9 this season.

So Travis Hunter, the wide receiver, we think could beat Travis Hunter, the cornerback.

Yes.

Get toasted.

Okay.

Last game in the early slate, Ravens at home against the Rams.

Ravens are 7.5-point underdogs.

The over-under for this game is 44.5.

What a bummer the Ravens are.

I'm going to list some Ravens stats for you.

You guys ready for this?

The Ravens defense after week five.

They are 29th in rushing yards allowed.

They're 30th in rushing TDs allowed.

They're 31st in passing yards allowed.

They're 31st in total yards allowed.

They're 32nd in passing TDs allowed.

They're 32nd in first downs allowed.

They're 32nd in points allowed.

Yes, and

Baltimore this year, through five games, has already given up more points

than the entire 2,000 Ravens defense did in 16 games.

They've given up 177 points this season.

The 2,000 Super Bowl winning defense gave up 165 total in 16 games.

It's really, really bad in Baltimore.

It's really bad.

And it's injuries, obviously.

Like, I don't think if the Ravens were fully healthy, this would not be the same spread.

It would be close to a Pick'em, if not Ravens favored, if they had Lamar and all their defense.

Their defense, their starting defense in week one accounted for just 37.9 snaps in week five.

That's how injured they are.

So they're banged up as banged up could be.

We talked about Derrick Henry.

We had the discussion if he's okay.

This is not a good matchup for him.

The Rams are the only defense in the NFL that hasn't allowed a rush of 20-plus yards through five five games.

So

probably not this week.

Is Patrick Ricard back?

I don't know.

Also, another Rams stat.

He has not practiced.

Not practice.

As a four-point favorite or more on the road, Sean McVay is 16-0 straight up.

So they win these games.

9-7 against Reds, so not talking about the cover, but like the Rams take care of business on the road.

Yeah.

They're supposed to.

Now, I did see that

Hamilton might be back.

I think he was practicing.

Okay.

So that would be huge if they got him back.

I don't think they've announced whether or not he's going to play this weekend.

But counter to that stat, Big Cat, the Rams

have

twice lost back-to-back games as outright favorites of seven and a half points or more.

Okay.

So there is a pattern there with McVay.

Yeah.

Like if you have a bad loss against a team that you were supposed to wall up, it does carry over to the next week sometime.

Okay.

okay, so there's that.

Matthew Safford's a Hall of Famer.

I just want to remind everyone: this is a crazy stat.

So, Puka Nakua is on pace for 1,999 yards, which would be a record.

Pretty crazy.

I mean, if you're at - that would actually be the most disappointing thing ever if you finish with 1,999.

Yeah, I would almost not rather win the season receiving record at that point.

Yeah, most receiving yards in a season.

Number one, Calvin Johnson, 1,964 yards in 2012.

Cooper Cup, 1,947 yards in 2021.

Pukukukua is on pace for 2,000.

There is a common denominator.

What is that common thread there?

That would be Matthew Stafford.

That would be pretty insane if Puka Nakua breaks a record and one, two, and three are all Matthew Stafford wide receivers.

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

That would be fucking sick.

Did you see what the Rams are doing after the game?

Because I believe they're going over to England to play the Johnson.

Another one?

Yeah.

So, you know what the Rams are going to do?

Oh, he's nodding his head like an asshole.

They're not flying back home.

They're going to practice at Camden Yards.

They're going to practice in the baseball stadium.

That's pretty cool.

Before they fly out, which is pretty cool.

They get to see some action in Baltimore.

Why don't they just fly home and just keep going the other way?

That's probably really far.

It probably really is.

Why don't you just build a giant plane and practice that has a free field inside of it?

I like that idea.

Yeah.

Now we're actually thinking here.

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We got some stinkers in the afternoon.

Titans at Raiders.

Raiders minus three and a half over under 41.5.

Yuck.

I mean, this would be the let's bench Geno game, right?

Like, if they lose to the Titans,

you got to at least

think about sitting them down.

Yeah.

Stink, and there's only three?

The Raiders are mildly concerned about Geno Smith.

Mm-hmm.

Ugh.

They're mildly concerned that he's a a broken quarterback.

I actually had, we just taped the pro football football show.

My hot take of the week was that Geno Smith is not going to throw any reception this week.

That is a hot take.

It's like the hottest take you could possibly have.

That's all he does now.

My hot take is that Geno Smith actually played way above his drafted slot considering his career.

Yeah.

He's lasted way longer than people thought.

Remember the numbers, the millions that he made?

Yeah.

I talked about on Monday?

If this is his last dance, Geno, it was a great run.

There was a world where Geno Smith was just out of the NFL after his Jets career, and he would have made $5 million.

Instead, he reclaimed it and

over $100 million.

Credit to Geno.

Think about those things, Geno.

Yeah.

Also, stop throwing the other team.

Big picture.

Things are going to be okay.

Right.

But maybe not because this team is bad.

I actually think the Raiders will win.

I do, too.

Just because it's only based on the fact that they lost by 34 last week.

And everyone's going to be like, the Raiders are so, so bad.

And the Titans might be figuring something out.

The thing is, the Titans' win last week was so fluky and lucky that I don't think that they're in danger of feeling good about themselves.

They felt good to not feel bad on Monday.

Correct.

But I don't think they felt good because they thought that they played well.

Yeah.

So it's not, I can't really see this being a letdown spot for the Titans.

Yep.

But I do think that Geno against this team,

they should win.

They should cover.

Yeah.

Okay, that's enough about that game.

That's going to be a game that something weird is going to happen in that game.

Do you want a mildly interesting stat?

How mildly disappointing?

To go with how mildly disappointed they are with Geno Smith?

I was going to say to go with a, I wouldn't even know if we would, would we say this is a mildly interesting game?

No, it's not.

It's not mildly interesting.

This is a stat that will make you, if somebody said this to you at a bar, like a friend, you go, that's wild, and then you go back to talking about whatever it is you're talking about.

I love it.

Okay.

Mildly.

Wait, do you have a blind resume at any point today?

No, but I can whip one up.

Okay.

If you want.

No, no, that's fine.

Yeah, maybe we'll do it for Firefest.

Yeah.

Okay.

Mildly interesting stat of the week.

Every quarterback that the Raiders have played this season was drafted in the top six of their drafts.

That is mildly interesting.

That might be a little more than mildly interesting.

Do you do?

Do you do?

Nerd Doug it of the week?

I think it's medium interesting.

I don't think so.

I think it's pretty mild.

Okay.

It felt boring to.

Well, you know what it is?

It's when I read the names on the list, it actually gets more mildly interesting.

Okay.

Drake May, Justin Herbert, Marcus Mariota, Caleb Williams, Daniel Jones, Cam Ward.

Okay.

That brings it back to mild.

Yeah, mild.

Right.

It went to medium, and then it's back to mild.

Bengals and Packers.

Packers are 14-point favorites off the bye.

Over-under is 44.5.

Joe Flacco showed up to Cincinnati on Monday, and I guess he does know what the Packers do defensively because he already played them them this year, but

I think the Packers are probably going to have their best effort off the bye with a weird 2-2 or 2-1-1 record.

I don't know how Flacco works as the quarterback

in Zach Taylor's system of not having offensive linemen.

I don't know if he's the perfect fit for that.

He's 40,

and even when he was like 24, he wasn't exactly fast.

I don't want anything bad to happen in Joe.

I'm going to be watching every play like the mom watchers, like with my you watch commanders huh what oh with my hands over my eyes peeking through is what i was gonna say hank right

hank who's missed more games uh drake may or jaden daniels

what i think jaden daniels i don't think so oh you're talking about just not starting yeah

well they didn't start drake mayn't start right away well no after he became the starter how many games did Drake May miss?

Hit that concussion right.

I love this.

PFT's always got a stat.

Hmm.

Well, the Bills stat was just wrong.

Well, Drake May started that game.

Well, he did not win that game.

He started the game and they won.

So, yeah.

No, he did not.

No, no.

Joe Milton won that game.

Drake May started the game, Patriots won.

How many yards passing did Drake May started?

How many attempts did Drake May have to do?

He started the game, Patriots won.

He was the starter.

They won.

That's just the same thing.

And then he started Sunday night.

They won against

2-0 in his last two as starter against the Bills.

How many games is Jaden?

Jaden's only missed two games.

Well, last year, did he miss any?

No.

I thought Marcus Mariota played.

Oh, he came in.

He came in.

Well,

that counts as missing.

We just established that.

No, we didn't.

Missing a game, if you get someone else comes in, so then Drake May won against the Bills.

No.

Your logic.

Jaden Daniels has played in 20 career games.

Drake May has played in 18 career games, but Drake May did not start the season last year.

So it's got to be.

So it's got to be the same.

Yeah, about the same.

But only one of those guys gets talked about like they're going to get injured.

Well, only one of our guys cries every time he scrambles out of the pocket.

One of our guys.

Zach said that

AI says that Drake May only missed one game with a concussion.

Is that true?

I thought he missed more than that.

I think he missed AI.

Looking right out his game logs, I think he missed week 14 last year.

Faulty stats.

Fake stat.

Listen, sometimes good stats.

Sometimes you got the bad stats.

I was just asking the the question.

I didn't know the answer to it.

That's how you learn.

Good question, PF.

That's how you learn.

Good question, yeah.

Open your mind.

Be open to everything.

Jerry taught us that.

Yeah.

Open to the universe.

We do have one good game in the afternoon.

It is the Bucs and the 49ers.

Oh, wait, back to the Bengals-Packers game.

Oh, yeah.

Joe Flacco does have a chance to make history, or at least to tie history.

He would be the second quarterback that would start and beat the same opponent twice in a season with different teams.

Yep.

So, I mean, it's going to be tough for the Bengals to do that.

Jack Kemp.

Jack Kemp was the other one that did it.

Jack Kemp, Bob Dole's running mate.

Was he?

Yeah, I think so.

Oh, shit.

Dole Kemp.

That's cool.

That seems like it's a familiar bumper sticker.

But yeah, so I'm rooting for Joe.

Good luck to Joe.

I'm also very worried about Micah Parsons just.

becoming a backpack that Joe Flacco has to carry around.

Well, he survived him once.

Yep.

49ers box.

Bucks are minus three over under 47.5.

I loved Baker Mayfield's

quote where kind of at the media, which is a fair quote from Baker.

He basically said, early on in my career, it was cocky, immature.

Now it's Moxie and he's a dog.

Same shit, different day.

As long as you play well, they change the narrative, but you've got to be yourself.

And I've always been like that.

Fair point.

Baker Mayfield has not changed.

The narrative's changed.

He has not changed as a person.

He has been the same guy through and through.

It's just we had, you know, Colin Coward being like, well, he's not a leader because he one time there's a clip where he ran towards the band instead of his teammates.

Yeah, because he planted a flag at midfield because he grabbed his dick.

Yeah.

Because he was pumped.

I've always liked Baker, always thought that he was a dog.

I never said any of the stuff that Baker is claiming people said, but I did hear other people say that.

I never appreciated it.

I said, huh?

Yeah, I said, that's not true, buddy.

That's Moxie.

You're confusing that with Moxie.

That's fucked up.

Did you see Vita Vey's celebration that he did last week when they dropped him into coverage?

No.

It was the best seatbelt celebration I've ever seen.

They dropped him.

It was like a zone blitz, and he dropped back.

The guy dropped the pass or like hit off his foot, and then Vita Vey pushed him away and gave him the best seatbelt strap-on celebration I've ever seen.

I love it.

It was great.

Vita Vey too is.

Big boy do that.

I struggle with big boys in ages because Vita Vey just, you know, he's only 30.

Yeah.

Doesn't it feel like if you ask me, I'd be like, yeah, no Vita Vey's like in his, you know, 18th season in the NFL.

That is strange, yeah.

I think it's Big Boys, also, maybe Samoans, where it's like all just kind of,

it goes together.

And I was like, I was, I was seeing, I think it was the 20, what was the, what was, what was Josh Allen's draft class?

Was it 2017?

Which, which Josh Allen?

The R.

Josh Allen.

Yeah, 2017, I think.

2018, whatever it was, it was like the 2018, 2017 draft was unbelievable, and VitaVey was in that draft class.

Yeah.

If you had asked me what draft class was he in, I would not have been able to get that right.

Yeah.

So are the Niners going to go with Mac Jones again?

I believe so.

I hope so.

Is he the better quarterback?

Oh, Vita Vey, seatbelt.

Look at that.

Oh, that's a big one.

That's a truck.

Big boy seatbelt.

Double wide.

Vita Vey.

He's awesome.

Yeah, I think they're going to go with Mac Jones.

I don't know.

Did Mac Jones, he confirmed that he saw the dead body?

Yep.

But the banana story was not true.

11 was not true.

So I don't know who started that rumor that he ate 11 bananas.

Yep.

But he was forced to deny that.

How many bananas did he have?

I said three.

But how does that get...

I don't understand how that story comes out.

How does three bananas...

No idea.

Especially with him, because if you look at the mug shot, he's a 99 bananas guy, clearly.

But to go from three to 11, it just seems like, I don't know, fake news or something.

But I do think that Mac Jones has been, he's played really, really good.

I don't think he's as good as Brock Purdy.

I don't think that he's like the long-term solution, but he's made a shitload of money.

Yeah.

He does a great job being like a fill-in for Brock Purdy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Kyle Shannon, best coaching job he's ever done.

That's what everyone's saying right now.

Yeah.

Coach of the year.

Yeah.

I'll put it this way.

If Mac Jones had played in the second half of that NFC championship game.

Yeah, if they'd had him.

If they'd had him back then, it'd be a different story.

Yeah.

Okay, last game, Sunday Night Football.

Very excited for this game.

Chiefs minus two and a half.

Over-unders, 52.5.

Jared Goff is actually 2-0 in matchups against Patrick Mahomes Chiefs.

Hmm.

I won week one.

Was it last year, the year before?

I think it was, maybe it was last year.

And then, obviously, the famous Chiefs-Rams game.

The best game ever.

I think that I like the Lions, but I'm concerned about their defense already.

Their defense has a lot of injuries.

Top two cornerbacks.

I'll just say this, though, because I'm going to say it every week.

The Lions in their last 50 games are 36 and 13 and against the spread.

That's a stock that you just see.

It's like NVIDIA or whatever the fuck it is.

Yeah.

You know, that just keeps going up.

You're like, man, I wish I bought that.

Yeah, I don't, I wouldn't say that there's a bubble on these Lions either.

No,

I keep betting them.

Yeah.

Week one, the Lions looked like shit against the Packers, but if you throw that game out, you would look at this team and be like, they might be the best team in football.

Yeah.

And

I would not argue with you about that.

Yeah.

They're just really, really good.

And, I mean, do we have Travis Kelsey being worried about Life of the Showgirl?

About the reviews?

Yeah.

I mean, things can't be too happy.

By the way, the reviews that I've heard are just Hank saying

that people don't like it.

Did you guys talk about it in the active?

Yeah, well,

I didn't look into it anymore.

It was just you saying that.

So I'm going off your reviews.

Hank reviews reviews.

I did have a review of a review of Hank's review.

The song Wood, that's about Travis Kelsey's dick.

Yeah?

That's what they're saying?

Hank?

Sure.

Yeah,

I've listened to it less than anyone.

Well,

I haven't listened to it at all.

Okay.

But I'm told that that song is about his dick.

Yes.

And it's called Red Wood.

Yeah.

Or she refers to it as is that song actually about Andy Reid's dick?

That's what I thought when I heard all this stuff.

Problem Paradox.

Red Wood.

I mean, that's what they...

She's a football fan.

She knows that's Andy Reid's nickname.

Yeah?

Just think about it.

Big red.

Andy Reid might be plowing the field.

Easter egg.

Yeah.

Easter eggs everywhere.

All right.

Should we do our picks?

Oh, no, we got to do fantasy minute.

I'm going to bet the lions just because I'm going to keep betting the lions.

Yeti.

Yeti.

Yeti.

Yeti.

Baboni.

Baboni.

Okay, here is our fantasy minute with Jerry O'Connell.

Start the music memes.

Start the music memes.

I got one minute.

Hey, what's up?

Fantasy Buck Boys.

Yeah, I'm at a sporting event.

I got my tickets at game time.

Yeah, awesome.

Love that game time app.

It's sick.

All right, I got 50 more seconds.

Everybody, spend all your money on this tight end Taylor on the Jets.

You'll just keep dumping it to him.

Also, spend all your money on Green Bay.

Spend that money.

It's over.

It's week five.

It's not real money.

It's not yours.

It's money money.

Way to be Calamas.

Thought it's a music tool.

Some fucking private score.

Okay, also.

Umarat Di Mercado.

He's not gonna get played anymore, but he's not gonna get fired because Coach Gannett struck him.

Well, he didn't strike him.

He just went whopping.

Pick up Michael Carter.

Also, pick up Hassan Haskins, the running back in the charges.

Also, stream Cardi.

He's got something to prove.

I shave my beard.

Team Mac is gonna have a great game.

Team Mac, call him Matt.

I get bad messages from some guy who says he's friends with his mom.

I did it.

One minute.

Fuck you, big cat.

Call 1-800.

Gamble, you fucking.

That was good.

He actually made me think, like, Eddie DiMercado, he's probably going to score this weekend because Gannon is feeling guilty.

He's like, he has to apologize, be like, I'm sorry that I hit you.

Yeah.

Tell you what, here's a couple carries on the goal line.

Get the ball.

Yeah.

Good job, Jerry.

Got it under a minute.

Yeah.

I'm officially, I'm going to bet that right now before I forget.

What did he say about T-Mac?

Was he talking about

Tet?

Yeah.

Like somebody yells at him about Tet?

A Tet?

Who's yelling?

Who out there is yelling at Jerry about Tet

T-Mac is also Tracy McGrady.

Yeah, no,

he is Tracy McCrady.

Yeah, you can't.

There's one T-Mac.

But I feel like Jerry's the type of guy he's allowed to just, he's just going to throw around nicknames everywhere.

Yeah, Tet is.

Yeah.

Tet.

Tet.

He's Tet.

He's the Tet Offensive.

Okay.

Should we do our picks?

Right now.

We have, you know what?

Let's do.

Let's do our TD parlay, and then we will get to our interview with Commander Center Tyler Biadish.

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Okay, I'm going with Monra.

Max?

What?

Hey.

Good pick.

I mean, you revenge, yeah.

Getting revenge.

He should appreciate that.

I'm getting revenge for you.

Yeah, no, I appreciate it.

Hank's out this week.

I appreciate that.

Monra screwed us.

I'm going to get revenge for my boy Hank.

Monroe at night.

I actually think, I think that was a great pick last week, Hank.

It's a disaster.

They scored like seven touchdowns.

Yeah, a tragedy he didn't score.

Do you mind if I go to that game as well?

Oh.

We're going double dip.

Okay.

Yeah.

I can go.

I have two.

I've foreseen.

There's only three.

There's three shitty games.

I'll let you pick.

I'll let you pick.

No, no, no.

Go to that game.

Romeo Dobbs or Xavier Worthy.

Those are my two.

Xavier Worthy hasn't scored yet.

I like Xavier Worthy.

All right, Xavier Worthy.

PFT?

Are you also going to that game?

No, I'm not.

No, I'm not.

I'm not going to triple Devil.

You've got to get us on the board, PFT.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm looking at Bucs and Niners, and I'm thinking there's got to be a rushing touchdown in there

for the Bucs.

The Niners actually haven't scored a rushing touchdown all season.

Did you know that?

I think I'll go with

Chalky, Rashad White.

Let's go Rashad White.

Get on the board.

Okay.

I wasn't putting those in.

That's on me.

That's on me.

That's fine.

Put them in.

Put them in.

All right, so the standings right now, Zach, no, memes, sorry, has six points.

I have five points.

Hank has five points.

Max has five points.

Zach and PFT have four points.

We're all about equally as bad at gambling.

We're worse.

Well, no, I mean, the records are six and four

is the leader.

Bunch of us at five and five, then two people at four and six.

We're all the same.

We turn this around.

We're one game off of 500.

Yeah.

All right.

Who's up first?

As a unit.

Is it me?

One, two, three.

Okay.

My pick, I'm going to take the Seattle Seahawks plus one and a half.

I'm going to take

the Detroit Lions.

Actually, no.

I'm going to take the over in that game over 52.5.

It's a fun over.

Okay.

Memes.

I'm going to take the over and the Cowboys Panthers over 49.5.

Okay.

Both of my first two picks were taken.

I'm going to take Panthers plus three.

Okay.

I would like to take New England Patriots minus three and a half.

Fuck.

Good pick, Zach.

Good pick, Zach.

I was going to do a PFT

and try and take them minus six and a half.

Nope, too late.

I can audible.

No, it's all right.

I am going to take the Las Vegas Raiders minus three and a half against the Tennessee Titans.

And And then I get a second pick.

Yep.

And for my second pick, I'm going to take the Rams Ravens over 45.5.

45.5 points.

Okay.

Zach, coming back around.

I would like to take the over in the 49ers, Tambay Buccaneers game at 47.5.

Like it.

I'm going to get stinky with over 38.5 and Brown Steelers.

Ooh, stinky, stinky.

Memes.

You take the Lions plus two and a half.

Lions plus plus two and a half.

Go ahead.

I'm going to take a pick for the listeners.

I'm going to take the Bears plus four and a half because I hope it's closer than that.

Okay.

I'm going to take my final pick will be Bills Falcons over 49 and a half Monday night.

Double Monday night.

So what is it?

Plus 725 is our TD parlay?

Yeah, plus 725 for the TD parliament.

Love it.

Love it.

Okay.

I also love that Hank's always thinking about the listeners.

Yeah, yeah.

Good guy.

Always.

Always.

Okay, let's get to our interview.

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I hope it's a tie.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

It is Tyler Biadish from the Washington Commanders, and he's here with Campbell's Chunky.

Let's start there, actually.

Is this the dream sponsorship?

Like, walk me through when your agent's like, hey, we want you to rep the best soup possible.

You're like, yeah, sign me up.

I get to eat more soup.

This is sick.

Nah, man, it was awesome.

Honestly, like, you know just growing up and like seeing like the the commercials of campbells and uh to be able to get a call from my agent and like hear about like it was going to be with jaden um and his mom uh the with the features of it and like seeing the script it was hilarious so like uh we jumped right on it too and it was really unique too because it went right into camp like uh the shoot so um it was a cool unique body moment for both of us because it was us acting yeah versus playing playing football right so uh it was really cool it is soup season i think that's officially underway right now.

It just started.

Yeah, I'm going to have some of this for my lunch today.

I think I'm looking at the sausage Mac and the macaroni pasta.

It's spicy.

I like that one.

There you go.

I'm going to be diving into that one.

I'm a big Commanders fan.

Big fan of yours.

You had some great blocking on Sunday, especially that outside run that Bill had.

You got out in space a little bit and threw your weight around.

It was fun to watch.

My question for you is, is Dan Quinn the same type of coach with the same type of aggressiveness in games where he doesn't get knocked over as in games where he gets a little bit bloody?

Because I felt like I saw, like, Dan, you fucked around and woke Dan up when you got him a little bit bloody the other weekend.

Nah,

he was definitely a part of it.

I mean,

shoot, like, I didn't know he actually got hit on the sidelines until we came off on the PAT, and I just saw blood running down his nose.

So, like, I really aired the field goal right before half.

But no, shoot, man.

Like, he's always in the fight, man.

He's a fighter.

And,

no, it was just, it was so like him, his style of play, like, you know, talking about how he, his persona and his aura about things.

And it was like, truly, that was his identity in that moment.

And got right back up, bloody nose, like, got it all taken care of at halftime, came in at halftime.

We're all ready to go.

Like, it was awesome.

It was all, yeah.

I saw that, and I was wondering if he went to the tent.

I don't know if they gave him a concussion test or whatever, but whatever it was, it woke him up.

I don't know.

I don't know what he did at half, but no, he was ready to go in the third third quarter.

Yeah, awesome.

So we talked to Coach Quinn during training camp, and we asked him, I'm curious about the shark week last year.

From a player's perspective, what was shark week like in the locker room?

Were you like, what the hell is this guy talking about?

Are you like, oh man, shark week, this is going to be firing us up?

Because I'm basically like, what am I going to do when Dan Quinn announces it's shark week again?

How am I going to react to the commanders?

Yeah, it's just the perspective of just being where you are and what the situation is.

I mean,

and how DQ always talks about like, we're the hunters, too.

But also, like, you know, that came up the first time, I believe, on a short week where it's like Sunday, flip the page, you're on the next game week, right?

So it's like you have that short little window of time, but you have to flip it in your mind of like, you know, right after that game on that Monday, it's really like a Wednesday.

And then you're into your Thursday, Friday, you know, going into the game.

And that Saturday, Friday is like in the same day of Wednesday.

So,

whether you're traveling or not, but like the biggest point of it is like embracing it at all, I think, too.

And, you know, I think it always brings back a certain perspective, too, for me in regards of like, for myself, is that like,

hell yeah, like, if I'm playing on Thursday night, like, let's go.

You know, like, you know,

Thursday night football.

And then you just get into that zone and throughout the week and then you speak it into existence, like, and how you're, how your energy flows, and how it's like, DQ always talks about it's like an extension of one another.

So, having that vibe of Shark Week early and explaining it, and how we're going to get, and how DQI says how we're going to get down, like that amplifies to the whole, you know,

staff,

you know, coaches, players, everyone who's involved that's on that plane ride going on a Thursday night game or if it's at home too.

So, um,

you know, he, he, he sets the tone and, you know, he calls it, we haul it, right?

So, yeah, I like that.

Yeah, I think it applies to the fans, too.

If I know it's Shark Week, I prepared differently that week as well.

I move everything up a little bit more.

Yeah, we had three spans on and everything.

It was like a lot of attraction was out.

Yeah, I love that.

So this week we got Monday Night Football, big game.

Commanders against the Bears.

It's me versus Big Cat.

We have an annual bet where the loser gets a tattoo.

So there's a lot riding personally in this podcast on that game.

What's the preparation been like for Chicago?

Yeah, no.

So we just got started going into today.

And,

you know, this is our day where we kind of have that a little bit more time to recover where we're going to get more into game prep tomorrow.

But just having film from last year of their personnel, they obviously have like some new coaches over there.

But having that, you know, awareness of personnel and like how and who played certain different positions and stuff, you can kind of get a jump on it as a player.

But obviously, like, you know, schema schematics kind of coming from coaches will kind of dial in tomorrow.

So yeah, do you have anything in the game plan where it's like we need to just rely on some more lucky bullshit like the Hail Mary last year?

And I'm saying that is the most bitter person ever because it did, it did, for all intents and purposes, completely end the Bears season.

Yeah, no, I mean, shoot, obviously,

you got to have a good, you know, you know, certain situation.

What was your reaction after?

Like when you, when you, when that happens, then you get in the locker room after the boy, holy fuck, did that actually just happen?

No, like, it was,

it was, it was wild, too, because like when I saw

when Jaden kept running back and forth and he finally got to a spot and he threw it up, like I saw it get tipped and then I saw someone catch it, but I didn't even, I couldn't even see who caught it because everyone was like freaking out down in the end zone.

But I like turned to every, like, to my old lineman, Jaden, and everyone was like...

in their like shock moment some people started running some people started just like you know celebrating throwing their helmet our sideline was going nuts like and everyone rushed the field like, obviously, it's a game winner, right?

So, like, you had this huge

blackout period of like just celebration.

You got in the locker and we're like, holy shit, we just did that.

Holy shit.

Like, that was my first one I was a part of for Hail Mary.

So,

especially coming off that game where we kind of like had a lot of,

you know,

we had a lot of,

you know,

pre-snap and like some

penalties that kind of hurt us ourselves that took away some touchdowns.

And it was one of those games where it was like,

you know, the luck just hit right at the right time.

So, obviously,

it was a cool special moment at the same time, too.

After the game, did you go back and did you watch like all the highlights that people were making of the Hail Mary where they put like Celine Dion from Titanic over it and like all the soundtracks?

Did you spend any time doing that?

I spent a good like probably three weeks just watching replays of that over and over again.

I saw a lot of different shots of it.

So I saw a lot of different like side angles of it, like how it all started,

like the wide receivers and how they went in a certain alignment.

I think Luke, maybe Luke was in front, Zach was in the middle.

I think Terry was in the side and Noah's in the back.

But I remember watching the side angle from it and just the development of the whole play.

But also like it was so interesting too, just to get to that play was the,

I believe, the short pass to Zach and then the out pass to Terry.

Yeah.

And just to get to that spot where Jaden had enough,

or we had enough leverage to actually get the ball up like that.

So I just remember like having a good sense of like, we have enough time to get to the sticks of where we need to get to.

And then after the game, you know, there's a lot of memes out there.

Like, so, you know, obviously you see a good amount.

Yeah, they're great.

I have a question for you about Jaden.

Love watching him play.

He's been a breath of fresh air for this franchise at quarterback.

And I always see him like, he seems to joke around a lot with the other team during a game.

Like, I don't know if he's a shit talker.

I don't know if he's like making fun of him.

I don't know if he's like introducing himself and becoming friends with him during the game.

But does he talk shit or is he just being friendly to the other team?

Because he does it a lot.

It's in his own way.

I would say.

Like, I haven't seen it like that, but it's hilarious because that's who he is.

You know, that's how he,

you know, you even see him like, you know, blocking for Bill on the sideline last game.

And there's a shot of him like about to, you know, block someone.

He has a smile on his face.

So like, that's just who he is.

Right.

And, but it's also pretty funny.

Like, you know, we'll be talking shit out there and everything.

And like, and then Jaden will come in and like say whatever he says.

Right.

But it's just like, it's, it kind of like, you know, screws around with the defense a little bit too, because I remember, I don't think Burns liked it after the first game.

He made some comments about it, but like,

I mean, the fact that he's making comments about it kind of says something too, though.

So, yeah, because I feel like he tries to joke around with them and just kind of disarms them a little bit.

If they're like pissed off, Jaden will come in there, like, crack a joke, smile at them, because

aggressive.

Yeah, and they're like, what's this guy doing?

Why is he being friendly to me right now?

I don't like that.

Yeah, for sure.

And you have a lot of people that respect Jaden, and especially for what he's done in even his first year and everything.

But that's just his, again, like, that's his personality, And that's how he goes about it and everything.

But it's, but he has so much fun playing the game, which, you know, which I look at in such a unique perspective too.

And

even like before, on that last drive we had with the Chargers, like, you know, I've seen some things on like Twitter or like not Twitter, but Instagram of how, you know, him and Debo, like, what dance they were going to do before the touchdown or whatever it was, but he was dancing in the huddle, like just being in the moment.

He's a, he's a, he's a big guy that, like,

he's in that specific moment and really embraces it.

And when you get a TV timeout,

having that relaxation in the huddle and like seeing where we're at, what's the situation?

And

he's just dialed in.

Yeah.

All right.

So Tyler, you're a Badger.

I'm a Badger.

How do we fix the Badger program?

And more importantly,

you're from Wisconsin,

son of dairy farmers.

Barry Alvarez, when he first came to Wisconsin, basically,

not exact quote, but basically was like, Wisconsin has a lot of fat people people and we got to keep them in state how do we like you were an offensive lineman getting recruited how do we keep the big boys because that that's really the part that drives me nuts is Wisconsin football should run the ball and be able to punish people with the offensive line that's kind of the nature of what the program should be and we've gone away from that so how do we fix it yeah I'm not really sure in regards of like schematics of how you know things are Because everyone has a different philosophy and everyone has a different scheme of what they want to go for.

And like, obviously, like, if you look at my career, like, I was pro-style, pro-style in Dallas, and like, and I'm, you, you have a mixture of everything here, right?

So, like, you, you can do it in regards of not necessarily running power, or

like, it's just more so about like, you know,

sticking to the basics, like

stacking those great days of like, hey, like, how, how detailed can we be?

And just getting to those like marginal gains of like, hey, like on this play, like, you know, the aiming point of the running back or like, you know, the combination block, getting it, you know, push this outside so like you can have that cutback length.

It just goes back down to basics, I think.

And obviously, like with football, you're going to have those injuries where like it's that next man up mentality.

And I think that's the biggest part of preparation is like whether you're, you know, second on the depth chart, starting, whatever, like you have.

to be ready for that opportunity.

I think right now they're kind of facing that adversity where it's that next man up mentality.

You know, I've noticed that there's a good amount of guys like on the injury report, but

that's that opportunity for the next upcoming to really raise the bar and get back to the standard of what badger football is all about, being gritty and just fucking just grinding.

Getting to that next step of like moving the chains, like doesn't matter how pretty it is, just move those chains,

get to the red zone, get to those fourth and manageables where you can

stretch out that risk and press that envelope.

But they will, you know, I have confidence in that.

They will, they'll turn it around.

Yeah.

And when you were deciding to go to Wisconsin, I assume it was somewhat of an easy choice just in because of what the offensive line you know like the powerhouse they've created in terms of like draft picks i know you were con you converted from a defensive lineman is that right right but you always did you always know when you went to when you like started school where you're like i know what they're going to do they're going to make me another one of these you know incredible offensive linemen just churn it out and be like drafted and have a good nfl career i really didn't know honestly like i really didn't know uh i got offered the scholarship for D-line.

And then when I went over there

for a spring practice, I was watching the D-linemen.

And, you know, some of the guys pulled me aside, like, hey, like, come, come watch the O-line here, you know.

And I was just like, all right, like, I'll watch both, you know, and I really didn't know how it was all going to shake out because I'm like, how am I supposed to try out for both positions?

Like, I really just didn't know.

And,

you know, coming from a very small school, like, you know.

So I lit, so I went into camp.

And when I got to my locker, it was number 61 with knee braces on, O-line cleats.

I'm like, all right, I kind of know where I'm at.

But in the spring, though, in the springtime, too, though, one of my

high school teammates, Garrett Groszak, he played with me at Wisconsin.

He was the backup when Jonathan Taylor was there, too.

But he would get stats from me when I was still in high school, like finishing up that year just in preparation, just in case I was center.

went into the first year and just had to learn center.

And it's so interesting too.

Like I always tell like some of the guys, like, because the story is

really unique because I had to start kind of from ground zero of like you know learning how to play center and like you know I have a you know teammate here with the commanders like Michael Dieter and he taught me how to play center like truly like and I had Dan Voltz as well at and a lot of like the like alumni that were there just to pick their brains about some stuff but it's a

It was just an ongoing process too, like how I talked about before badge football.

It's like they really do put you in the best position possible.

And you do see a lot of position changes coming from, you know,

might not even be like smaller schools, but like you really see, like even like, you know, for example, like one of my teammates, like David Edwards, like he came in, he was a quarterback in high school, tight end first year at Wisconsin.

Then he went to, you know, tackle, right?

And I played with him and now he's a guard for the Bills.

So it's like, so it's really unique in that way, but it's also like putting yourself in the best position possible, then, you know, just going for it and really, truly just getting down to like the nitty-gritty of like footwork, technique, and really being efficient with your hands and being a technician.

So

just having that mentality at Wisconsin and

that culture,

it's really cool.

I love the idea that you just were, you were playing defense and all of a sudden there's just two like clunky knee braces sitting in your locker.

You're like, well, I guess I get the sign there.

They were grooming you.

It was so funny, too, because I was playing like stand-up five technique in high school.

Like, you know, sometimes I play the three tech, but it was just hilarious, though, because like,

you know, you started from ground ground zero, but like, he just took that opportunity just to embrace it all.

And, like, yeah, I had so many great role models.

I had, like, you know, even like Ryan Ramchuk, that he was there my first year and got to really, like, you know, talk a lot, talk a lot of ball with him.

And, you know, like how I said before, like Michael Dieter, and had a lot of guys like David Edwards, like, just to bring me under their wing, and, but to be a really cool part of that, you know, culture.

But then, you know, obviously, you have, you know, Jonathan Taylor coming, and then it's just like this, it's a massive

fulfillment of like the run game and like how

that's when you started to really love the game.

Because defense, when you play defense,

it's a different type of game for an offensive player versus defense.

The play schematically, learning different formations and everything like that.

It was really cool.

Yeah, and pass blocking is a completely different mentality from anything you were doing on defense, right?

It's like you were just attacking, and now you're like, okay, I got to wait for the guy to come to me.

Yeah, they're like, you know, kicking posts.

I'm like, what does that mean?

So it was really, really, really cool to, you know, to learn a new technique, but also to, you know, get it down to, you know, a very high level.

Were your family and friends, were they understanding when you told them that you were going to play offense now?

Like, what was that conversation like?

It wasn't too much of it.

It was more so like,

oh, that's different.

Like, how do you feel about that?

Like, I guess if it makes you happy, then we're happy.

I'm like, well, I have a, you know, I have the football in my hand every play.

So that's a little different.

You know, like, I literally have it in my hand like more than anyone else in the game.

So

it's a unique job, but also comes with a lot of responsibility.

Yeah.

Making the calls and being quick and efficient with them.

But also that challenge is like, that's, that's the best part of it.

Like, you know, just getting a front.

It's like maybe a low

frequency front of like what they might run.

And then you get it and you knock it out of the park.

Like that's, that's, that's awesome.

How bad does it suck during a two-minute drill when you have like a deep completion completion and then you have to sprint up to the ball and then get down in your stance, get set, and then snap it?

Because I feel like that's a very underrated, hard thing that offensive linemen have to do.

Yeah, I would say, like, the

so this last game, like with like the Chargers, like we had the one right before halftime, and that's awesome.

Like, that's part of the challenge, too.

Like, when you're in a clocked situation, you got a long, you know, pass and everything, and you get down, you get a set, and you get clocked at like three seconds.

Like, when you run that each and every, like, Friday to like, you know, perfection and you just like, you, you have these situational

down path.

And like the the harder, the harder one, the challenge is like when you cover a ball after like a 35-yard gain and you get down there and there's maybe a penalty or like something to bring it back

and you got to jog back.

You know, like that's because I've been in situations where like I've literally covered down the field a good amount of yards and like you got to come back.

That's the challenge I would say.

Like, it doesn't suck.

It's more so like, damn, you know, like

thought we had that one, you know, but like it's, it's one of those things where, you know, you come back and that's like where the conditioning part is in, especially throughout this offense.

It's like, you know, we do a lot of great tempo and, you know, Jaden and Cliff do a great job of, you know, calling it.

And,

yeah, so we're always ready.

Yeah.

One thing

when it comes to spiking, I'm always worried that Jalen Carter is going to dive through the legs and just try to intercept a spike.

You know that he tries to do that, right?

And he's going to to do it one day.

And it's going to be awesome when it happens.

I just don't want it to happen to us.

Yeah, no, he tries a lot of different stuff.

You know,

he's very unique in those situations.

I think a lot of those guys, though, too, have seen that.

And I don't know why it's always, like, I've had several people try to dive through my legs.

And I'm just like, yo, like, because it's just an awkward position because you try to block down.

Yeah.

Like, try to just like, you know, and so, but

he's been close, though.

Other than that, like, yeah, you know, he's been close.

A number of guys have been kind of close.

But

I got a kind of a dumb question for you.

We have a guy in our office, Mike Kadyk, who played center for Indiana.

And when he gets drunk, he'll just like randomly just start at a bar, just start doing like pass pro sets and stuff like that.

How often does that happen in the offensive line community?

Where if you're just drunk, like, and you're just like, you know what?

I'm not getting laid tonight.

I'm just going to start doing some pro sets with my boys at the bar.

I would say

that's definitely a thing in college for sure.

Just get your hands on somebody.

Nah,

it's more like it's so funny because it's like in college, you have so much time with one another.

And

it was one of those things where you would always like, it was so ingrained in your brain to get this down or like, you know, the technique and everything.

And, you know, you have a couple of drinks and you have some fun or whatever.

But like, in regards of just like, you know, being more open to the topic of where you're at in that, that, in that set, and everything, like, I'm going to get it down.

I'm going to get my offhand down, you know, everything like that.

So I can definitely see it.

I love that.

I love that.

I can definitely see that.

Yeah.

That's hilarious.

I didn't know that was universal like that.

Yeah.

So he does it a lot.

And it's always shocking when he does because he's got obviously like a quick first step.

And so when you see a big guy moving like that, you're like, oh, that is kind of cool.

It is a fun party trick.

But in reality, what you're doing is you're just like going from a crouch to taking one step, and everyone's like, whoa, that's wild.

Yeah, staying half man.

That's right there.

Yeah.

Like, you still wrestle with the boys?

I feel like that's something that a lot of linemen do too.

It's just like, come on, let's wrestle.

Let's have a quick wrestle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, we had a good, we had some wrestlers

from high school when going into college on our team.

And, you know, they reached wrestling matches on vacation for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This might be a dumb question, but do you ever forget the snap count?

No, I think it's more so like in and sometimes it's

it kind of correlates like yes and no.

I think there's a variation of it whether or not you lose the snap count like in regards of throughout if you're making a call and you don't hear the first part.

Like that's happened in my

in my, you know, throughout my collegiate career into the pros sometimes.

But

it's it's

you have like certain certain code words to make sure like you're not on it, but you know, that's the

routine like when you are making a call like you want to have a routine of like all right if this is on hard count this is how I'm gonna approach this so I get back to reminding after you making two different calls making sure it's like on the road right crowd noise and everything you got to make sure everyone's on the same page and then you have to go back into the snap count and then it's like making sure everyone's on the same page too so there's been some times where you know

you know you get down even like on a certain you know play clockwise too, like you get down in like what are the mechanics too of the play clock on the road and certain situations like that.

But like long story short, like, yeah, there's been some times for sure.

And, but that's the piece of, you know, like I said before, like, there's a lot of responsibility when you have the ball in your hands for the most of the games.

Yeah, I would just keep repeating to myself, like, okay, on to, on, two.

Don't forget it, on to, on to, on to.

That's the only thing I would think about at that point.

Throughout your career as a center, you've played with a few different quarterbacks.

I'm curious because you guys have a close relationship, a unique relationship between the center and the quarterback.

If you were blindfolded and had like noise-canceling earphones on, could you tell the difference between Jaden under center, Marcus under center, and Dak under center?

Me throwing Hornybrook too, Hornybrook, too, yeah.

Could you be like, oh, yeah, that's Dak.

That's definitely Hornybrook.

Yeah, I would definitely think I would know

Daks and Jaden's the most.

And I probably would

probably know Marcus's as well.

Okay.

Hornybrooks is.

Sorry, Horny.

Horny Brooks.

It's been a minute.

It's been a while.

Yeah, yeah.

But maybe it would be like riding a bicycle.

You'd be like, oh, I feel that knuckle.

Oh, shit.

When Jaden's under center, do you ever think about Hornybrook?

Like, close your eyes.

Oh, man.

All right.

Well,

this has been awesome.

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It has been a lot of fun.

Thanks to Campbell's Chunky for setting this up.

The best soup in the game.

That's a fact.

We've mentioned a lot of players.

You mentioned Jonathan Taylor.

Very simple question.

Just how sick is he?

Because

he keeps just being the sickest running back.

Would you ever just watch him when he busts through the line?

You're just like, God damn it, he's so good.

Yeah, I definitely follow a lot of the Badger players too.

If I know like someone's playing on you know Monday night or Thursday night when you have an opportunity to watch them but like JT like you know, he's all over the board of like the stat sheets this year and like and what he's been and he's always been really like that too, you know, even from college into the NFL.

Like, you know, he's a workhorse and what he's done in the NFL too is awesome to see.

And

man, like his...

His ability speaks volumes.

And he's even, he's an even way better

person than he is a player, too.

No,

not possible.

Just not possible.

Have you been

a friendship with him a long time?

And you've been around him enough, like he's the most genuine human being.

But he's the best running back in the NFL right now, or one of the best, top three.

Is he a top three human?

In my opinion.

Okay.

Like in all the world.

All the world.

The entire world.

What about your

parents?

Yeah, who knows?

Yeah.

It's not a knock on him.

He's really good at football.

He's probably a really great dude, but there's just no way he's a better person than he is a football player because he's that good at football.

All right.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Who knows?

Who knows?

Yeah, what if he gets like a Nobel Peace Point?

He might, yeah.

We'll be looking like assholes.

I mean, if he gets the Colts to like deep in the playoffs,

it would also be a really good sign of him as a human being.

He would help so many people out.

Yeah.

That'd be really nice of him.

That's a great point.

All right.

Well, Tyler, this has been awesome, man.

Thank you so much.

Best luck rest of the season, except for Monday night.

Great luck on Monday night.

Yeah.

It's going to be awesome.

Yeah.

And we appreciate it.

And shout out to Campbell's Chunky for setting this up.

Absolutely.

Shout out to Campbell's.

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Okay, Fire Fest of the week.

We are taping this at 2 o'clock on Friday.

So you obviously heard

Thursday.

You heard the beginning of the show.

So,

Max, hopefully, we're still alive.

Hopefully, we're still alive.

I think one person doesn't want us to be alive, I know.

That's for sure.

I think one of you guys is going to be still alive.

Oh, who doesn't want us to be alive?

Is there anyone in here who maybe bet against all of our teams?

Not me.

I have a hater parlay.

Okay.

I have a payout.

Bet 25, 1,000.

A lot of money.

Memes, I have an issue with you, though, because we talked about it earlier, and then I heard you doubled down on it.

Memes thinks that it would be better for the show if

both of us or one of us lost tonight than if the Phillies and Cubs advanced and we had PMT Armageddon on Monday night, where it would be Bears, Commanders, and then Cubs, Phillies.

I would love that.

How would that not be the best best thing for the show?

I don't want to neglect this show that we're doing.

I think it would highly increase this show, and then

the Phillies make it to Monday.

I don't think the Cubs are making it.

Okay, that's fine.

But the Phillies

Monday would be just as good.

A Phillies, Cubs, NLCS would be awesome for the show.

Awesome.

Nah, Phillies would curb stomp.

But that would be awesome.

You'd have a week of me being mad at Max.

How would that be awesome to show?

His logic makes no sense.

He becomes such a hater,

he doesn't even want the show to do.

No, the problem is then one of us would go to the World Series and he can't have that.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Guaranteed World Series loss.

I mean, World Series loss would be awesome for memes, though.

That would be that.

Just think about that, memes.

How good would that be?

If you think about numbers, you can't be losing in a world series.

What if Max got no hit in the World Series again?

Again, and it was another one exactly like the other one that was also a no-hitter.

Also, I want Big Cat's attention to be completely divided on Monday.

That would be

lost all focus.

By the way, Big Cat, I have a game ball for Monday.

There's so much that has to go.

I agree.

This conversation could be completely moot right now.

One of us could easily be, or both of us could easily be eliminated.

So this conversation is stupid, but I'm saying as it sits right now at 2 o'clock on Thursday, you should be rooting for the Phillies and Cubs to play in the NLCS for the show.

Sure.

But if you guys lose game five on a Saturday, it does nothing for the show.

True.

All right.

That's I see where your point is on that.

You have to shave your mustache.

All right.

So, all right, so what you need to, what you're saying,

what you're saying,

and I actually agree with this take, if the Phillies and Cubs are not going to advance, you need them to just lose tonight.

Yeah.

That's fair.

That is fair.

Because you want it to happen on a show night.

Yes.

It's kind of like, what was the, oh, it was the Celtics, Knicks, where we just didn't have any show nights.

Oh, yeah, that sucked.

Yeah.

So you feel like you guys got eliminated on a Friday?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

But get out of a trophy made for Monday night.

Oh!

Fears versus Commanders.

Yes.

It's right here.

It's the football.

Oh, my God.

I'm putting it on the line.

Hell yeah.

I'm putting it on the line.

We're betting the football.

Shane's favorite football.

I love this.

Winner gets to keep that and do whatever they want with it.

I love this.

Is it a good football?

It's an incredible football.

It's a damn good football.

Maybe one day that can be yours.

It's tattooed, right?

Wow.

Yeah, and a tattoo.

And tattoo, yeah.

But I think

the football is a bigger deal than

the football.

The football is forever.

That football is incredible.

Yeah, it's

so good.

You want to feel it, Hank?

Have a catch.

Pretty good.

I'm going to say right now, if I win that football, I would like to

maybe put it up as in a future PFT vs.

Hank golf match.

Oh, wow.

Not the one you guys already filmed, but a future, future one.

Nice.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

We should just maybe have to splash the pot.

It's so nice of a football.

I feel like when I win this football bet, I'm not going to want to put it up for grabs again ever again.

It is an incredible football.

It is good.

Yeah.

All right.

Firefest.

Hank.

Yeah, we alluded to it earlier in the show.

You're right.

The Patriots are wearing their all-white uniforms, and they tweeted out just as every team does the graphic with their uniforms of the week.

And obviously, you know, another storyline of the show is me, you know, me and Max going to Penn State, me going to the whiteout, doing the whole we are thing.

So I quote tweeted it and just said, we are.

Yeah.

Playing into the whiteout, you know, element of the jerseys.

People thought you meant we are all white.

I don't even understand what that means.

Like, that is just the example of social media.

Like people reaching and just going so, so, reacting so fast.

I mean, like, you're racist.

Like, I don't, I, I'm so, I don't even understand how that could be racist.

Like, we are all white.

We're not all white.

What does that even mean?

I didn't think about that.

What does that even mean though?

I didn't think you were racist.

If I was saying we are all white, what does that even mean?

Obviously, we're not all white.

We're not.

We aren't.

No.

Correct.

Hashtag we aren't.

But you want them to.

No.

Even, even if, like, no.

Hank, answer this question.

If it's all white, it's all

right.

Oh, okay.

There we go.

Okay.

Through in the tea.

No.

All right.

So people were really actually mad at you?

Yeah.

For

maybe they're just mad at me.

Honestly, keeps it factual.

Oh, man.

That's.

People were doing like classic bar stool, like, classic.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't even fundamentally understand

how that could be perceived that way.

But, yeah,

it was just one of those, like, I don't really even tweet that much, but I don't either.

They'll be tweeting less.

I got to be honest, I don't get it either.

I don't really, yeah, it's quite a reach.

Like, the fucking amen.

You said way more racist stuff.

The fucking a man, I got.

Like, that was funny.

You, like, that was very, like, clearly could be interpreted.

I have a solution.

This is fucking a man.

I have a solution, Hank.

You ready?

This is just.

Yeah.

You ready?

People reaching.

Late October, New Zealand's rugby team's coming to Chicago.

You have to be the biggest all-black supporter.

Yeah.

Sure.

That's the name of their team.

That's so bizarre.

I guess, yeah, I don't know.

That is very, very bizarre that people just took that in a different, a completely different way.

I mean, I guess they don't understand the we are thing.

Yeah.

Like that's a well, I mean, NFL fans, college fans

are not, you know, but like if you're following me on Twitter, I was doing the we are for

like an entire two weeks.

This is very funny that people actually were upset.

Yeah, I don't really understand how saying we are and they're talking about the all-white jerseys.

That I don't know.

I don't get that one.

Unless is the Penn State whiteout?

Is that racist?

Did you get unintentionally dragged into a racist thing?

Maybe, yeah, I guess this is Penn State.

That's why they call it a cult.

Because, yeah, I always thought that it was called a white-out because they like to cover up their mistakes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

It's exactly what it is.

Okay.

Well, Hank, you're not racist.

Thank you.

One of the least racist guys I know.

He does really want to.

We are all white?

What, but that, again, like, what we're not.

So, like, I don't even understand that.

Well, what do you mean by we?

That's what I, like, we are.

Who's we?

Who is?

We are.

Penn State.

You're hoping that's the future of America?

Is that what you're saying?

We are.

All white.

Play the max.

That's when you guys are supposed to say Penn State.

Oh, Penn State.

State.

Sorry.

Sorry.

I'm used to having Max.

We are.

Repeat it.

Repeat it.

Stay Penn.

Thank you.

Oh.

You're welcome.

Welcome.

All right.

PFT.

My Fire Fest of the Week, it goes back to what I told you guys last week about how I hired another man to walk into my house to bring his other man tools to go into my other man room and hang up my guitar hanger, my guitar stand on my wall.

He did a great job, turned out awesome, very happy with it.

But in my reimagining of this same office room, I've run into what I think is a much, much, much bigger problem that I don't really know how to solve.

I have a couch in that room.

There's a couch, it takes up too much space in that room.

I'm looking to open it up, and

I have no idea how to get the couch out of my room

it's impossible i have a big brown couch that's in that room it does not fit through the door

you got to break it i so then i thought to myself what

what are my options with this couch uh i thought maybe i could lift it up through the window because there's a window in that room yep um but doesn't fit through that window So I can't just put it out the window.

So it was there when you got there?

No, somehow it got into the room when I moved in.

You got to find out who moved it in.

Yeah.

It was a a Russian guy from New York that I paid to drive my stuff across the country.

Are you tossing the couch?

I would love to toss the couch.

So just get a couch, Doc.

Yeah, just break the shit out of it.

Well, okay.

Smash the couch.

That was my other option is like, okay, maybe I disassemble this couch.

It's like a leather couch.

I don't know what's inside of the leather.

I thought about renting like a power saw.

Yeah, chainsaw.

But I thought about chainsaw, power saw, but then chainsaw probably shouldn't use that indoors.

No, you should.

Well, if it's electric, maybe, but I don't, I already got an electric power wash.

Don't Too much of a pussy.

Yeah, people rake me for that one.

So I thought maybe I get like a power saw, a circular saw, but I don't know where the springs are or the staples or the metal or the nails inside.

And I read up on it that can be very dangerous if you do that.

So I don't know.

We're goggles.

I don't know how to get this fucking.

There's a couch that's holding me hostage.

It's barricaded itself in my office.

I don't know what to do.

Couch doctor.

Wait, what?

You keep saying,

what's a couch doctor?

Do you never had to do this in New York?

No.

I do it multiple times.

They come, I'm sure they have it in Chicago, but definitely more of a New York Manhattan thing.

But they just come and cut your couch in half, take it out, and then put it back together.

I have an idea.

That's actually a job?

Yeah.

A couch doctor?

Yeah.

Like Johnny Sins?

I'm surprised you never heard of that.

No.

That was like very, very common.

Because just you can couch into any of those doors.

I have an idea, though.

Better idea than a couch.

And it's usually like a Russian, like, it's a.

Yeah, yeah, good.

Good.

Yeah.

Could I offer you

maybe for a PM TV,

we give the cream team a couple tools and we just put them in your basement.

We just see what happens.

Hey,

get out when you get out.

We could get that couch out for you, PC.

That's what I'm saying.

The two of them trying to get that couch out.

Okay.

If you don't care about the couch's health.

No, in fact, the couch.

I think we should just send the cream team to your basement.

I would almost put a camera there and just be like, get it out.

I would almost prefer that the couch be destroyed after the last two weeks of me trying to figure out how to get this fucking thing through the door.

Perfect.

Okay.

So the health of the couch does not matter.

Just get it out of your house.

No, no.

In fact, like, yeah, I want you to hurt it.

Like, abuse it on the way out.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't want that.

Capture dead or alive.

Unless there's somebody out there that could use a free couch.

But

I don't think you want this guy.

This couch is bad luck.

We will.

If you welcome us into your home, we will leave with a couch.

Okay.

I love that.

All right.

Yeah.

Hired.

But don't mess up his walls or anything.

No, you can't mess up his wallet.

No, no, no, no, no.

We respect your home 100%.

We would have no intent of going in there and just messing up your space.

That's your safe space.

That's your home.

Yep.

And I will

put money inside the couch, like under the cushions.

I'll hide money in the couch.

Whatever you find, you keep.

Okay.

As your payment.

I'm happy to do it for you.

Okay.

I'll inform Jacob.

Okay.

Dude, what what can't the cream team do?

They can do it all.

They can do it all.

Well,

what?

Keep the machine on for when Max is trying to watch a Phillies elimination game.

Oh.

Can't do that.

Did they lose?

Was this a loss for the Phillies?

Last night.

Oh, so Max is 1-0 when the ice cream shoots.

Oh, no.

Did we have to shut up?

I didn't even want the ice cream last night.

It was the other, the other people.

Max, come on.

You can go on stream.

You can see it.

I was trying to say no ice cream because we were playing well without the ice cream.

So we got to shut it off.

And then Dana wanted the ice cream.

You shutting it off for the Phillies game?

I don't care.

I'm not eating any ice cream during the Phillies game.

You got to just keep doing what you did.

Weight loss.

I went down three pounds this week because of the Phillies.

I was too anxious.

Let's go.

Let's go, Max.

I'm back on track.

Let's go.

All right, my Firefest.

Zach, what were you going to say?

I was just going to say we weren't sure if keeping it.

We had it open for the Cubs game and then

after dark stream, we weren't sure if a third night in a row was going to heard it.

Yes, so we're going to have it open again tonight, but

we can test how many days in a row we can go, but that could lead to

just need a tech to come in.

Yeah, no, we don't want that.

We don't want that.

All right, my Firefest is a quick one.

We're all tired this time of year, football season, but there's moments that I'm tired that I like my brain doesn't work and I have to like stop myself.

And it happened this morning because I came down

to my kitchen and my kids were getting ready for school.

And my son, first thing he said to me was, where's the big check?

And my

first

like, like knee-jerk thought was, how the fuck did Hank get to my son?

And then I had to stop and be like, wait, I did talk to him about the big check like two days ago.

But like that moment was like, I had to.

I had to really kind of reassess and be like, you thought actually for a second that Hank like somehow got to your son and like got him to like like troll you with a big check question at fucking seven in the morning.

So I need to sleep because that was bad.

But that's great work by Hank.

Brian Free, yeah.

That's great work by Hank

to make your enemy believe that you're capable of anything.

I was so mad at myself for having that moment of weakness where I was like, what the fuck?

Where the hell is Hank?

You shouldn't have accepted it.

Hell, I actually shouldn't.

We won.

Raises a fair question.

He won on Wednesday.

He was looking for daddy to.

He's going to talk to a therapist in 30 years about how daddy didn't come home with the big check that he promised one time.

I know.

I did promise a big check.

I'm going to get a big check of my own.

Just walk around with it.

Write yourself a check.

Yeah.

Zach.

My Fire Fest of the Week is: I think I've become uncomfortably addicted to Stella's Coffee Run, the moment.

Yes.

I can't stop playing Stella's Coffee Run.

I play it in the Uber.

I play it

when I'm laying in bed.

I play it when I'm using the restroom.

Any free time I've had in the last couple of weeks, I've just been grinding Stella's Coffee Run.

I just got kicked out of the top 10, and I'm pretty pressed about it.

Yeah, I've watched Zach play it.

It's awesome.

It's so much fun.

Yeah, go play Stella's Coffee Run.

I still don't understand how you play it.

I keep trying to go, and

you can't play it.

The game is ended.

I thought, yeah.

Limited time only?

I don't know how you got in there.

He keeps playing.

Yeah, I think he's like hacked into the back end or something.

I mean,

it might be like you couldn't get

a certain score.

You're out.

It was like, it was, it was a limited time only thing, I thought.

We may have to bring it back.

We have to bring it back.

I like that Zach might be hacked into the system, and it's just like him competing against memes.

If I was hacked in, I would have placed myself back top 10 because

I was pretty upset about getting booted.

How did you get booted when no one else can play except for you?

We're playing.

I just.

Yeah, I'm looking at his phone.

He's playing.

Yeah, it's a great game.

But, like, look at the computer.

It won't let anyone else play.

Zach's probably a mod.

He probably banned you.

All right, let me try mobile.

Maybe it's mobile.

I've watched him play.

He is addicted.

You guys should try it out there.

It's so good.

It's a great game.

We got to bring it back.

Well, I don't even know if the people can try it.

We got to bring it back.

We got to bring it back.

We do have to bring it back.

What do you.

Hank's got something.

Hank has something.

Permission to be a rat.

Yes.

Permission granted.

I was in the booth the other day for an interview, and they were talking about their diet.

Oh, this is fucked up.

This is really fucked up.

Okay.

Also, I just tried mobile.

It still doesn't work.

Okay.

So Zach is playing.

He's playing by himself and he's losing ground.

Which interview is this?

What happened?

I think it was Tuesday.

Okay.

I mean, the wheels have just, it just.

Tell us.

You guys got to just, you got to let it out there.

I think a little bit of shame will maybe kickstart you into

positivity.

I had a good week.

I also had a good week.

Who are you talking to?

Hank's trying to do you a favor by shaming you right now.

That's what you guys don't understand.

Say that with your mom.

Say it.

I think Hank might be only throwing me under the bus, not the whole entire.

Well, it was the whole booth.

It was the booth conversation, and you guys were like, we can't talk about this.

We can't talk about this.

In my head, I was like, I'm sitting here.

Like, I can't.

Yes, because

Zach had a historic meal one of these days this week.

It wasn't even that bad.

It was like, all right, we're here now.

I guess we'll just get into it.

Yeah, let's do it.

It's hard conversation.

yeah hard conversation I guess it's a carb conversation uh I was a little homesick and I was like all right let me just eat some comfort food so I just had some baconator fries some chicken sandwiches and some concretes that was it reminds you home wait there was a lot of s's on those yeah I'm

I think it's a I think I might have like a an even number thing going on sometimes where I I prefer the meat the anyways does that's I'm rambling but if no no no no back up you you like burgers and even numbers Yeah, I don't know.

That sounds good.

No burgers.

It was all chicken.

No burgers.

So this is.

It was a big order.

Like, oh, it's not bad.

And then he was like, yeah, it was two concretes.

It was just full.

Give us a full order.

All right.

It was, it was, I had, I got four Baconator fries.

The nuggets were buy 10, get 10 free.

So that's like,

you got to get a deal.

You got to.

And then the value chicken sandwich, so the small ones.

And then

how many?

Just two.

Two?

I kept things even.

And then I got some two concretes at Small Show.

All All right, so two chicken sandwiches.

Four fries,

20 nuggets, two concrete.

What are the flavor profiles of the concrete?

So the first one was Butterfinger Pie, which is like Butterfinger mixed in with vanilla and marshmallow fluff.

And the second one's called Triple Chocolate Cake, which is chocolate fudge, chocolate ice cream, and chocolate cake.

And you can have them add additional chocolate cake if you want to.

I didn't do that this time.

You did not?

Didn't you have a putting you on concrete game?

You didn't add anything to either one of them or just one of of them?

No, I didn't add anything to either of them.

I was just trying to put you on a little sauce.

All right, I appreciate that.

And for people who are wondering what concretes are, they're basically milkshakes, like heavier milkshakes.

Yeah.

They're good.

And this booth was a safe space, and it's no longer safe.

Hank just completely violated.

How are memes and Max doing?

Good week, down three pounds as well.

Down six and a half.

Oh, okay.

So, Zach, you got to just.

I got to carry my weight, ebb and flow.

It's a team sport, and I'm letting the team down.

It's a lot of weight.

We got time left.

Unfortunately, it's a lot of weight.

Do you you think maybe

I can spot one part of your meal that might be an easy part to cut back on the calories from?

If that's okay.

Yeah,

I need all the advice I can get.

I think maybe just get two baconator fries instead of four baconator fries.

They did short the fourth one, so it was really like 3.5.

Okay.

They should have said that.

They're very an eighth of baconator fries.

If I were to pick one part of it, I'd say maybe just maybe not four orders of fries.

You're right.

100%.

Yeah, I think we can work on that.

I think that's doable, right, for a goal?

100%.

Also, that was actually the only meal of the day.

Oh, he is a weird eater like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This story is getting better and better.

Yeah.

Did it make you feel less homesick?

No, I just woke up the next morning and saw that Wendy's gave me the big, big bag, and I was like,

this is fat.

Yeah.

I regretted it.

Also,

is your mom Wendy?

Wow.

No.

How is that fixing gold?

There's a Wendy's down in the house.

Comfort house.

Comfort food.

Comfort food.

Yeah, comfort food, I think.

They got Wendy's in Florida, too.

Carbs are good for celebrating and bad days.

So So, like, you just sometimes got to lean into the food.

They're good for everything.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What's your happy meal?

It just depends.

I get into like kicks, but a lot of times you go savory, then sweet.

So I do really enjoy French fries.

So a French fry variant of some sort, and then ice cream is like a must.

Do you switch back and forth?

I switch back and forth.

I go one and one.

So you hit a little salty, hit the ice cream, a little salty.

All right, so you know what?

That's the problem, Zach.

And it's not a problem because it's just, this is how we're wired as guys.

You just got trapped in the cycle.

Because, like, I get trapped in the cycle sometimes where I'll be like, oh, I want a snack.

Oh, I want a little chocolate.

Oh, I want to go back to the snack.

And then next thing you know, you've eaten an entire bag of chips and an entire bag of candy.

You get caught up in back and forth.

You just get in the cycle and you can't get out of the cycle because you don't know which one to finish with.

We're cycle guys.

We don't have to be cycle guys.

We can break them.

No, I think

it's good.

Yeah, it is what it is.

Sometimes it is.

That was fucked up that Hank didn't.

Yeah, it was.

It's probably the most fucked up thing Hank's done this week.

Oh,

what?

We are.

Hank hasn't looked like, no, that's not even closely looked like

that was callback to me freaking out at him on Sunday.

It was very funny.

I was sitting there, like, they just kept talking about how we can't talk about it.

And I just was like, yeah.

I was going to bring it up Tuesday, but it was already, it was a long show.

So I, I,

memes, do you have a better week?

This week?

Yeah.

Good week.

All right.

Let's go.

You're back, memes.

Could be great tonight.

Okay.

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Numbers.

Three.

No, four.

You're just giving up?

Yeah.

You're quitting on three?

I'm going with four for the bacon at fries.

Don't laugh.

That's a good.

I mean, look, I thought two sodas was crazy.

Four bacon at a fries.

I'm going 41.

I don't think.

I can't.

That's fine.

One of these places got to do the Zach special.

That's fucked up that Hank did that.

It is.

Nine.

I'll go 15.

I'm trying to help.

We are supposed to be keeping each other accountable.

Yeah.

This link that you sent me worked.

We're still doing a show.

Sorry, 44.

Oh shit.

99 Poke.

22.

8.

I have 41.

What did you just have?

3.

3.

That's right.

Memes, you have 4?

Four.

Good luck.

Bacon Aater 4.

Have you ever gotten it, memes?

Have you ever gotten the number, memes?

Have you ever gotten this?

Have you ever gotten this?

For myself?

No.

Okay, that's what I thought.

But I have gotten it.

You're never going to get it either.

74.

Damn.

We get it.

You're never going to get it, memes.

Love you guys.

You're just coping for the Cubs losing.

Nope.

You're never going to get it.

We'll see.

You can't pre-cope him.

He's pre-coping.

No, what do you mean?

It already happened.

No, you can't pre-cope him.

It already happened.

No, it hasn't.

Yes, it has.

We're in the.

What time is it?

This is Friday.

We're Friday, brother.

Pre-cope is crazy.

Love you guys.

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