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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours.
Today is Wednesday, October 29th. And PFT, we've got a World Series.
Oh, boy. Unbelievable series.
2-2.

Speaker 1 Okay, Blue Jays. Let's play ball.
What do you say?

Speaker 1 But we went Monday night with an 18-inning absolute classic to Tuesday night, all the talk, obviously, about Shohei and having the most incredible series.

Speaker 1 And then Vladdy hit that bomb off him. And the Blue Jays,

Speaker 1 they don't give up. That team is just nails.
They just mash and mash and mash. And it's 2-2.

Speaker 1 And this World Series rocks.

Speaker 3 The thing I love about the Blue Jays is they do not give a fuck.

Speaker 1 They don't care.

Speaker 3 They don't care. Vladdy doesn't care.
This was awesome. I thought that the Blue Jays might crumble after losing that 18-in-game.

Speaker 3 I thought whoever wins that game, they're probably going to win the rest of the games of the series.

Speaker 3 It felt like it was that big of an emotional swing, maybe, because you throw everybody that you've got out there.

Speaker 3 We had position players that were about to get warmed up to pitch in a World Series game because

Speaker 1 Yamamoto said that was awesome.

Speaker 3 Put the team on my back.

Speaker 3 Put the ball in my hand. I don't care.
I'll go out there. I'll throw.
But yeah, I think they were planning on warming up some position players until that happened. And yeah, it was an awesome game.

Speaker 3 Both games were fun, but that 18-inning game was absolutely crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And now, guess what?

Speaker 3 We got a real series. We got a real series, and it's fun.

Speaker 1 We really do. Yeah, let's talk about the Monday night game first because the 18-inning game, it was insane.

Speaker 1 It felt like every single inning had a big moment. There was plays at the plate.
There was some terrible third.

Speaker 1 At one point, it looked like if

Speaker 1 they had just said, hey, you guys be third-base coaches for a World Series game and see what happens, because some of the sends were crazy. It had Shohei just being.

Speaker 1 Maybe, you know, it's hard. Obviously, he didn't pitch well tonight.

Speaker 1 You know, for Shohei standard, we thought he was okay. He gave up, what, he gave up 400 runs?

Speaker 1 They needed better from him, but Shohei

Speaker 1 is getting into the territory of one,

Speaker 1 he's somehow underpaid, two,

Speaker 1 he might be the best athlete we ever watched play any sport.

Speaker 1 It's getting into the Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, you know, Muhammad Ali, these territories where in 50 years, you could see yourself saying, remember when we we got to watch Shohei Otani, because there was a stretch there where he had, it was, I saw it, it was the elimination game in LA, so game four against the Brewers, and then into

Speaker 1 the game in Dodger Stadium in game three,

Speaker 1 where he went, his at-bats went home run, walk, home run, home run, double, home run, double, home run.

Speaker 1 And then the Blue Jays just said, we've had enough when they started intentionally walking him for all of the extras but it was that second shohe home run where they had a meeting at the mound to discuss what to do and then he just pissed on it like we're just seeing something that's out of this world good but yeah then the blue jays bounced back because i agree i thought that i thought the winner of game three was going to win the series easily and it was going to be like an emotional letdown and the blue jays were like banged up george springer got hurt but i i said this before the series vladdie is the one guy when you have a guy like Vladdie who's just unafraid to that level, just

Speaker 1 let him just have the big moment. He's not afraid of it.
And now we got a series. Now we got a game five.

Speaker 3 I got a couple other stats about that

Speaker 3 18-inning game that we saw. And yeah, Otani, he got on base nine times.
It was crazy nine times in that game.

Speaker 1 He had two home.

Speaker 3 The list that you just read, that's like if you're just sick at MLB the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's like

Speaker 1 rookie mode. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's playing rookie mode in Major League Baseball in the league championship series and the World Series. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 So besides his two home runs and two doubles, he got walked five times, four intentional walks.

Speaker 3 That's the first time since a man named Stan Hack had five hits and four walks for the Chicago Cubs on August 9th, 1942, pre-Pearl Harbor.

Speaker 3 For there were 44 players that were used by both teams in the game. There were 19 pitchers that were used.

Speaker 1 There were 130 at bats.

Speaker 3 It beat the previous record of 118, and that was just in 2018. There were 19 runners that were left on base by the Blue Jays,

Speaker 3 only by the Blue Jays. And then maybe, maybe the most incredible stat of the night,

Speaker 3 I've got

Speaker 3 some World Series games that I am going to

Speaker 3 read off for you here. You try to guess what the common threat is.

Speaker 1 Okay?

Speaker 3 Game two in 2017, that went 11 innings. Game three in 2018, that went 18 innings.
Game one in 2024,

Speaker 3 that went 10 innings. And then this game that went 18.

Speaker 3 What's the common thread between those? Besides, obviously.

Speaker 1 They're all extra innings.

Speaker 1 Congratulations.

Speaker 3 Before all those games.

Speaker 1 Seriously?

Speaker 3 Seriously.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. I'm not a big Brad Paisley fan, but maybe I should be.

Speaker 3 He's the extender. He's like Scott Foster for Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say the other stat that was crazy, they almost ran out of baseballs.

Speaker 1 And like the 15th or 16th inning, the broadcast was like, yeah, they have 290 baseballs for a game, and they're starting to get ready for some more baseballs.

Speaker 1 They got to get more baseballs warmed up because they're at like 230 right now.

Speaker 1 You almost ran out of baseballs. It was insane.
And it was, it became one of those games that if you stayed up, you're like, I have to stay up.

Speaker 1 I know I shouldn't be up this late, but you have to stay up. You got stuck in it.
It was like Stockholm Syndrome.

Speaker 1 You're like, maybe I'm just going to watch this baseball game for the rest of my life because it just, and it was such a great game.

Speaker 1 And then I will say that the innings like 13, it was after, who, who, who fake pimped a warning track shot?

Speaker 3 I think that was Will Smith.

Speaker 1 Will Smith, yeah. After that, there was a few innings where I was like, okay,

Speaker 1 we got to do something here because it did kind of die off in the crazy plays. But then Freddie Freeman, who is just, that's just what he does.
He just hits big home runs in big moments.

Speaker 1 He hit obviously the walk-off home run in game one last year in the World Series, delivers. And then with all that said,

Speaker 1 the Blue Jays come back and beat the Dodgers handily, and they beat Shohe Otani on Tuesday night, and they tie the series 2-2.

Speaker 1 And we're getting into instant classic type of World Series zone because we know it's going back to Toronto. We know it's going at least six.

Speaker 1 And it's just so much fun. There's just something about the World Series, especially when it's this good.

Speaker 1 Max, I think, tweeted about 15 times last night, baseball rocks. And you know, in his head, he was just sitting at home just being like, man, does baseball rock?

Speaker 1 it rocked it

Speaker 3 you're so right like if you were pot committed to that game you were not you were not going to go anywhere until it was over so after the the monday night football game got into a cab went to the casino just to have a few small beers and play some blackjack and it was right when uh who was it schneider got thrown out at home yeah that was a bad that was a bad send it was a great relay it was also a pretty bad send it was a terrible send and and he was thrown out by like 20 feet and then i think it was smoltz goes that's a gutsy, gutsy call by the third base coach.

Speaker 3 That was just stupid. Being a first base coach might be the easiest job in the world.
Being a third base coach, I would not want to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when

Speaker 1 the Dodgers sent Freddie Freeman, and

Speaker 1 that was one of those plays that you were watching. That was earlier in the game where you're like, is my TV broken? This looks like it's slow motion right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so we sit down at the table and we're just playing Blackjack and we say, okay, we're going to play Blackjack and we'll go as soon as the game's over because they had had a TV that was right next to the table.

Speaker 3 And so we're thinking that we're going to play, I don't know, 30 minutes of blackjack. And then it goes on and on.

Speaker 3 And we end up playing three hours of blackjack just because we're waiting for this fucking game to end and it just wouldn't end.

Speaker 3 But I wasn't going to move. I wasn't going to go anywhere until this thing was over.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was, it was unbelievable.
And we had the Kershaw moment too, where, you know, Sandy Koufax is 89 years old. He's, he's staying for the whole game.

Speaker 1 Our guy, Jerry O'Connell, has been to, he lives at Dodger Stadium now. I don't, he just lives there.
He's been spending more time at Dodger Stadium than he has at home the last two days.

Speaker 1 But again, it just comes back to like the Blue Jays getting off the mat and answering on in game four. And it's Vladdy.
Vladdy is just,

Speaker 1 he's just, it's so much fun to watch him play baseball. And he's just such a, he just doesn't.

Speaker 1 You could just tell the moment does not affect him whatsoever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Show me, that was like the fourth home run he's given up all year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's it's a great series. I'm so glad that we got these two teams playing.
I am a little bit concerned with Jerry spending so much time at Dodger Stadium. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't want that to distract from his football fandom.

Speaker 3 I feel like there's no way that he is keeping up with fantasy football to the level that he expects of himself and that we expect out of him if he's living at Chavez Ravine.

Speaker 1 There's also, he's definitely probably negotiated. Like he's not watching football for two weeks.
Right. Yeah.
He's only only allowed to watch two quarters of football a week, but he can

Speaker 3 go to 18-inning marathons.

Speaker 1 That's a good point.

Speaker 2 He's probably Jerry.

Speaker 1 He's definitely like, you can't, you got to negotiate something, especially to be like, I'm going back again.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
What are you going to say, Matt?

Speaker 4 Jerry called, he called me today on his way to the game, and we talked for like 15 minutes, just like about last night's game and going into this game. 15, like a legit 15 minutes, just talking ball.

Speaker 1 No, you got to practice that with somebody.

Speaker 3 If you were there in person, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 you have to talk your way through it to make it all make sense to you. I read that the reason why the game lasted so long was because of the Marine Layer.

Speaker 3 The Marine Layer blew in, and so it made the air heavier, and no balls were leaving the park. Balls that would be like no doubters, like the one that Will Smith hit, that he thought was gone.

Speaker 3 It got too humid at night there.

Speaker 1 Well, and also just terrible sends to home and

Speaker 1 misplayed situations like that. But yeah, there was like

Speaker 3 Freeman had two shots that I think hit the warning track too that he that he hit pretty hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But man, what a series. I'm so pumped for game five.
It's going to be great. Blake Snell back on the bump.
I think it's game one starters going.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it's, I,

Speaker 1 and the Blue Jays, that, those, those, uh, baby blue uniforms are so sick. So, so sick.

Speaker 1 That adds a little extra swag to it. And I also, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I was seeing some people say that there's a lack of aura in Los Angeles because, you know, it's not cold and the games start with the light out. Maybe this is just,

Speaker 1 I'm just not biased, but at least just from personal experience, we went to that stadium. That stadium has aura.
That stadium is cool as fuck.

Speaker 1 It's hard as, it's the worst place to get in and out of, but when you're in there, it has like a very cool vintage 70s type vibe, and it does have like a big moment feel to a stadium for sure.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's incredible. It's like old school Hollywood.
That's the vibe that you get when you're there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, great place.

Speaker 3 I like watching on TV too. I think the series, this has been perfect baseball.
This is everything that you want.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Max, do you have any notes as our baseball guy?

Speaker 1 Baseball rocks?

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 you pretty much nailed it. It was just exciting play after exciting play.
The Vladi throw was one of the coolest things I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 I don't understand how that wasn't 200 miles an hour. And it was just right on the money.
There were so many plays like that that were awesome.

Speaker 4 And baseball is just one of those sports where it's like momentum, momentum, momentum, and then just like a gut punch. And it's just, it just hits you in all the fields.

Speaker 4 And that game delivered in every front last night.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's why it's so crazy that the Blue Jays came back and won the next night. It's insane.
It's a beautiful evening, fans, at the ballpark.

Speaker 3 Warm summer breezes, sun going down, and it's all dark at the ballpark, but that's okay. It's night game.

Speaker 1 What do you want?

Speaker 3 Let's play ball.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Blue Jays. Let's play ball.

Speaker 1 Okay, Blue Jays. Let's play

Speaker 1 ball.

Speaker 1 I'm addicted to that song. I'm addicted to that song.

Speaker 1 Every time the Blue Jays do anything good, it just goes, it rattles in my head. And it's catchy.
And the Blue Jays are so much fun to watch, and I can't do anything about it.

Speaker 3 You know who sang that song originally?

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 3 The Bat Boys.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 3 and they, uh, I think they, it seems like it was written in 1992, which is weird because the lyrics feel like they're from, I don't know, like 1915.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so catchy. It's almost like an SNL skit of what

Speaker 1 you remember. The um

Speaker 1 was it the Padres a few years years ago? Those guys, the

Speaker 1 like adult men standing in a park with Padres uniforms doing like a diss track that was super nice. Do you remember that?

Speaker 1 Do you remember that video? I can't, I, I, I, I have a vague memory of it. Yes, yes.
Oh my God, yes. And it was like the layman.
That's kind of what

Speaker 1 whoever came up with this song looks like. But I love it.
I can't get enough of it. And the Blue Jays are a fun fucking team.
And they're just, they just don't, they're just relentless in the box.

Speaker 1 Isn't that fair to say, Max? They're relentless in the box.

Speaker 1 Also, the clip.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 The clip coming out of commercial, like the 15th inning, just showing everyone praying. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It goes cutting around the fans, and they are all just like, literally just like, like, I feel like, I mean, viewing it, it's like,

Speaker 1 I was like, just, I don't care who wins, like, just please.

Speaker 1 Please end this.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And

Speaker 1 Fox ran out of commercials because they just showed us constantly the wink up bars doing commercials i was just it was it was i was half in and out like laying in bed watching the game and then it would just be my fat stomach uh from the wisconsin game five years ago just you know beating on it's like what what are people who are watching this thinking right they must think they're hallucinating if you're on the east coast and it's two in the morning three in the morning

Speaker 3 geez i kept looking up on the table and i i just saw bluttman i just saw a big red tv of Bluttman just fuzz.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Repeatedly, over and over and over again.

Speaker 3 But yeah,

Speaker 1 that's a good job, baseball. Three hours on the blackjack table is that, like,

Speaker 1 are you broke? Did you win?

Speaker 3 Yeah, so the crazy, even better than winning, I only lost like 250 bucks.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's great. And three hours.
That is great.

Speaker 3 Like, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 That is pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a great night.

Speaker 3 I went way up. I went down to my last $25 chip.
I was everywhere. I was all over the place.

Speaker 3 I think they cycled in probably like nine different dealers just in the time that this game was in extra innings.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I wasn't going to go.

Speaker 3 I wasn't going to walk away from the TV then.

Speaker 1 No, you can't. You can't.
Okay, I had two other things real quick.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see that there was a report that Terry Rogier had a lean out on his house?

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw that, but that I was, people were blasting me for my take that you don't know people's financial situations i have no idea if he's has money problems but a lien on your house is never a good thing so right i would say that there might be more to this story that's coming out yeah i mean obviously terry wouldn't be doing this if he didn't need money in some way right and i just i remember when we first talked about it last week people were like how could you say that he's made this much money you don't know how guys

Speaker 1 Athletes, anyone in life can lose their money. You know what I mean? There's just because you make the money doesn't mean you hold on to it.

Speaker 3 So if you give 23-year-olds $10 million, guess what? They're probably not going to have $10 million when they're 30.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hank, you're getting all fuzzy.
You've gotten fuzzy, Hank.

Speaker 1 I miss Zach's camera.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Zach.

Speaker 1 We don't know where Zach is.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 insane. What?

Speaker 1 That was just.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Just doing our guy dirty.

Speaker 3 No, I mean, like the Zach has far and away the best quality camera. And so when we don't have his camera, we just all look like shit.
We need him to make us look hot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we do. Hank can't figure out his camera.

Speaker 1 Also, Bob Casas was back on the NBC, NBA on NBC. And I got to say, they make a Tuesday night game in October feel like it's the coolest game ever.
I don't know if you guys saw the intro.

Speaker 1 It was awesome.

Speaker 3 Great graphics package.

Speaker 1 Hank is, what is Hank doing?

Speaker 1 Trying to pull focus.

Speaker 1 You're a producer, dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm producing right now.

Speaker 1 Talk us through what you're doing. I'm trying to get the focus onto my face.
There it is. Bang.
All right. Don't lose it.

Speaker 1 I can't promise that. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Last thing before we go to, we're going to kick it to ourselves.
We're going to talk about PFT's trip. We got Hot Sea Cool Throne.
We've got Andy Staples and some guys on chicks.

Speaker 1 Go watch the Internet Invitational. I think people probably saw the news.
We lost a colleague of ours over the weekend, Beef, Cody Frankie, and he was a good friend of ours,

Speaker 1 a co-worker, someone that we all liked and loved a lot. He was the nicest guy in the world.
He was with us when we went up to Milwaukee for the Cubs. Brewers game five.
And it was,

Speaker 1 you know, that was the last time I was able to spend time with him and and you know losing someone he was 31 years old it's just really really sad and especially after the nick man gold news so um shout out beef he was he was an awesome guy an awesome awesome guy we all knew him we all loved working with him so you know he's in the invitational and uh i know that he you know he helped tank with his golf game he i think he helped you pft with your golf game he was just one of those guys like he would just do anything for everyone and what did you say?

Speaker 1 He helped everyone. It's like people, you know, people that didn't even play golf in the office would be like, hey, can you help me out? And it's like

Speaker 1 he would, you know, take all the time in the world to help people who might just go in the simulator for 20 minutes and then they're getting off and never playing again.

Speaker 1 But it's like he would, you know, he just truly cared and like was genuinely nice to every single person that asked him for help. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And even, even just outside of golf and outside of the content that we were in together, he was, he was actually the nicest person in the world. And he was a one-of-a-kind guy.

Speaker 3 Everybody who knew him was like, this dude is the biggest sweetheart that you'll ever meet. And he was.
And it's just, it's really sad because we got to know him. We got to hang out with him.

Speaker 3 Always a great guy to be around. And the fact that it's so young and so sudden, it's just

Speaker 3 almost indescribable how sad we are at Barstool.

Speaker 3 And we're going to miss having him around.

Speaker 3 Getting to spend some time with him out in Pinehurst the other week with Hank when we were out there.

Speaker 3 It was a joy to be around him and he was so excited to have this the internet invitational come out so he could he could be out there playing golf and competing and I just

Speaker 3 it was like the saddest news ever. And Beef was the man.

Speaker 1 At Barstool Camp. Yeah.
Yeah. Barstool Camp.
We had so much fun. I just remember sitting next to him at the campfire.
He had the ox and he was playing tunes and he was just living life.

Speaker 1 And just he, Francis has said it perfectly. Beef had that feeling to him where it was like, he gave you that, like, we're just, we're in the best spot in the world right now.

Speaker 1 Like, who's, we're the luckiest guys in the world. And to have that gratitude

Speaker 1 is always a great reminder because you can get lost in the day-to-day. And Beef was that type of guy where it's like, look around, we're having the best time ever.

Speaker 1 And I, you know, it's, it's been a tough 48 hours.

Speaker 1 Done some crying, obviously, with, with Nick Mangold as well, losing him on Sunday. And I, I was thinking about it last night and, and this morning some more, and just,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 the two, those two guys, more than anything, they were just truly genuinely nice people. And they made everyone feel like they were their friends and, and they were friends with everyone.

Speaker 1 And I think more than anything, the world is just kind of a fucked up place. And there's just a lot of cynicism and really meanness going on just every day.

Speaker 1 And I think that the big takeaway is like the legacy that we should all try to carry on for both those guys is just be a little nicer, be a little nicer to everyone in your life, be a little kinder to people, give people more grace.

Speaker 1 You never know what people are going through. And those guys were the type of guys that they were, every single person they met, every single person

Speaker 1 they were around, they made feel like they were friends. And

Speaker 1 it's a hard thing to do. And I don't think a lot of people have that quality to them.

Speaker 1 So if you can take anything from it, it's, and this is me really kind of talking to myself and to you guys, because I know people who are listening right now didn't know these two guys, but they obviously knew them from their TVs and watching on their computers.

Speaker 1 But it's just try to be a little bit nicer in day-to-day life because I think that that's really important. And it's hard to do.
And we all have to do a better job of it. So

Speaker 3 it's a good point. And

Speaker 3 the video that I saw going around a lot in the last couple of days, it's a funny video, but it's actually like a perfect encapsulation of Beef as a human being.

Speaker 3 The super clip of him meeting everybody and every time he would shake somebody's hand, he'd take his hat off to shake their hand. He was doing that not for cameras.

Speaker 3 He didn't know that people were filming him at some times that he was doing that. That was like one of his first weekends here when he was working with us.
And that's just who he was all the time.

Speaker 3 It didn't, like, if it was an eight-year-old kid, he's like, I'm going to take my hat off. I'm going to shake your hand, look you in the eye, call you, sir.

Speaker 3 And it's, I mean, it's a funny video to watch, but it's also like the most wholesome thing ever. And that's, that's what, that's what Beef was.

Speaker 3 And it's just, it's really sad because I was thinking about that on the flight yesterday, which is that like, I'm, I'm just very sad that there

Speaker 3 are so many people that will never actually get to meet Beef now because he he was such a good impact and everybody loved hanging around him and uh yeah it's it's a it was a shitty day it was it was a shitty shitty day

Speaker 1 yeah yeah so i guess that you know we're kicking back to ourselves it's uh life is fleeting Enjoy the

Speaker 1 moments with your friends and family and don't take anything for granted because, you know, none of this shit matters. None of this shit that we talk about.

Speaker 1 None of this, you know, stuff that might feel serious matters. It's about the people that you love and the people in your life and being a good person.

Speaker 1 So, okay, we're going to kick it back to ourselves in studio, talk some Monday Night Football, and do some hot seat cool throne.

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Speaker 1 Okay, PFT Monday Night Football, you were there. The Chiefs are the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 The Chiefs is the Chiefs. And the Commanders, I almost want to say, here's what I'll say.
That was an awesome first half. Love that first half.

Speaker 3 It was the best time ever. Arrowhead is a beautiful stadium.
The people of Kansas City are very, very friendly. I did notice before the game, we were tailgating.

Speaker 3 I think I saw six or seven women on crutches or boots that were still going to the game. Okay.
Like, there's a lot of... A lot of injured women that are attending the boys of Kansas City.

Speaker 3 That's so brutal.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. I'm locked in.

Speaker 3 That's so funny and relatable. I'm locked in.

Speaker 3 So shout out to them, first of all. It's just like, I don't care.
Nothing's stopping them from going to the

Speaker 1 Warriors.

Speaker 3 Warrior mentality in Kansas City. And then the first half started, and we moved the ball pretty well for the first few drives, intercepted Mahomes twice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, comical first half in terms of both teams doing the most to not score, but looking okay offensively.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we were titty bumping. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I lied bet the over because I was like, this is crazy. Both teams look good offensively.
Yeah. And they just keep having tip passes and fourth down stopped.

Speaker 3 Zach Ertz got stopped like five inches short of the first down marker.

Speaker 1 Huge, huge number. Yeah.
Dumbest.

Speaker 1 The virtual measurement is the dumbest thing in the world. I agree.
It makes you feel better.

Speaker 1 No, it doesn't. Yeah.
No. Because you're like, oh, because it's still, there's no difference.
There's literally, literally no difference between that and the chain gang.

Speaker 1 The chain gang is at least exciting. Yep.
Oh, yeah, that I agree with.

Speaker 1 I thought the virtual measurement was because they were like using the tracking measurement of the ball and the placement and like no making it so it's accurate it's the exact same thing with a less exciting reveal yeah yeah they spot it oh that was mean memes memes what's going on

Speaker 1 memes memes did uh on today's part of my take he took the picture of the football five inches short yeah and put sunglasses and long hair and said on today's part of my take yeah memes that's just that's just mean i got a text from someone that was like i can't wait to see see what you do with it so i was like all right i gotta do something all right oh all right

Speaker 1 who is that text from

Speaker 1 i shocking tom fornelli nope who head of social

Speaker 1 gas

Speaker 1 hell yeah that's basically hank yeah hank basically texted you stirring the podcast yeah that's our head of stats of research

Speaker 3 with us he's obsessed with me he is he has obsessed with me he takes everything that i say and he's like oh look at this co-host going after our beloved henry again uh and when we were doing that meet and greet at the convenience store thing, what was the number one comment that people were saying?

Speaker 3 Because of a propaganda like this.

Speaker 3 Number one comment was, whoa, PFT, I thought you'd be a lot shorter.

Speaker 1 Like number one is in one person said it? No. No, there was at least two.
There were at least two people said, whoa.

Speaker 3 I counted four to five.

Speaker 1 You're not as short as I thought you were.

Speaker 3 Yeah, four to five people. Maybe six to seven people said that.

Speaker 1 And it was by like a 5-2 woman. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But still, it counts. I love 5-2 women.
So at this game, the first half, yes, you're right. It felt like we were going to get some offense because they were moving the ball down the field.

Speaker 3 The defense was coming up big for the commanders. Lattimore had that nice interception right in front of my face.
I love that.

Speaker 3 I loved being at the game. It was a great environment.
Terry had two great catches that they didn't want to give him.

Speaker 1 He was in the matrix.

Speaker 3 That we had to fight for.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The second one along the sideline, I still don't really know how he was able to keep his body in bounds.

Speaker 3 Yeah, don't know, but it was awesome. That was a lot of fun to watch.
Shout out Stanford Steve. He came up before the game.
He was down on the field, and I went to a wing place before I went out.

Speaker 3 Get in town, go drive to Kansas so that you can put the bets in there, then drive to a wing place, then drive to the tailgate.

Speaker 3 And so I was like, Steve, I don't know if you have these wings, but you got to try them. He was like, I ate there last night.

Speaker 3 And so they're the wings.

Speaker 1 Why is my number one dude?

Speaker 3 Number one dude. They're the wings that are like double-jointed wings.
And so I was like, yeah, I didn't know that it was going to be twice the amount of wings. He's like, yeah, I ordered 12 wings.

Speaker 3 I got served 24 wings. And I was like, well, well, I'm going to be here.
He's like, yeah, I just housed it. Made short work of it.
That's a dude.

Speaker 3 So yeah, first half was fun. It seemed like we were in the game.
And then I got too drunk, unfortunately, so I don't remember anything about the second half. Okay, I'll pick up.

Speaker 1 Mahomes is back to being full-on Mahomes. What are you going to say? Is that when you tweeted, I'm still going to be drunk on PMT tomorrow?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, that's when I tweeted. Are you?

Speaker 1 No, I'm not.

Speaker 3 I actually wasn't. I wasn't that drunk.
I wish that. If they had won.

Speaker 1 You were game planning for

Speaker 1 time. It's fair,

Speaker 3 I was wish casting that upon myself. But no, I do remember the second half.
And yes, Mahomes was Mahomes.

Speaker 1 He just, he's back to just now all his weapons are healthy. He's spreading the ball around to everyone.
It feels like every play is

Speaker 1 whether it works right away. It works right away, great.
And then if it doesn't, Mahomes will just run around and find someone. And oh, shit, that's a 20-yard gain.
Oh, shit. Rashid Rice, 25 yards.

Speaker 1 Oh, Travis Kelsey, you're just streaking down the sideline with no one near you, 38 yards. Like,

Speaker 1 they're just really, really good.

Speaker 1 They're going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 They're not. And I want to clarify, because I had some people pointing out that I called the Colts the best team in football on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Those two things can exist. The Colts are the best team in football right now.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Chiefs will be able to figure it out.

Speaker 1 These are facts.

Speaker 3 Everything looks simple for him in the second second half on offense. It was like effortless.
Our defense is very old, very slow, very injured.

Speaker 3 We're a very banged up team right now.

Speaker 3 And Terry got injured. I think he got re-injured maybe in the first half.

Speaker 3 And then I saw him doing cuts and trying to do some sprints and change of direction stuff on the sideline to figure out if he could go back in.

Speaker 3 And he looked like he was going 100% on the sideline, but that's just like 100% to my eye. And I'm like, that's just an athletic man.
And he couldn't go back in.

Speaker 3 I don't think he's injured that badly, but

Speaker 3 it was tough to watch that second half.

Speaker 3 There was really no hope, and the defense played pretty good in the first half. Then our offense was almost been, but don't break.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the moment where I was like, oh, this is not... Because I thought

Speaker 1 I bet the commanders was like, oh, they can hang around.

Speaker 1 And I think it was the combo of there was that play where Mariota just tried to hurdle like four guys standing up straight and they just kind of tossed him out of the club.

Speaker 1 And then there was one, maybe it was a third and long, or maybe it was a fourth down where he got sacked. And you could just tell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could just tell. He had nothing, there was nothing he could have done in that moment.
But yeah, the commander. So let's talk Chiefs real quick.

Speaker 1 Chiefs obviously have the big game against the Bills. Very excited for on Sunday.

Speaker 1 They are the best team.

Speaker 1 They're going to win the Super Bowl. Are you, is anyone disagreeing that the Chiefs look like they might even be a better version of the Super Bowl Chiefs? They are.

Speaker 1 Rashi Rice is a scumbag, and Chiefs fans should feel bad for rooting for him. Because of his arrest? Yes.
Okay, so you're going to go that route. He's a good player.
Yeah. Scumbag.
Scumbag. Okay.

Speaker 3 Not a good driver.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They are trying to just spam him touchdowns.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they are making up for lost time with him. And he's really good.
But yeah, I agree, Hank.

Speaker 1 I agree. Let's get more into this.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 The Chiefs are...

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 I don't want to say that they're better than when they won the Super Bowls, but I think that this is a team that definitely can.

Speaker 3 Like, they've got a lot of weapons, and Mahomes is just doing the same thing.

Speaker 3 The one play that he had where he stepped up in the pocket, rolled out to his left, stepped up again, and then threw across his body to the right to Noah Gray for a first down.

Speaker 3 At that point, I was just like, there's nothing at all that we can do. And I think that.

Speaker 1 And their defense is good. Their defense is really good.

Speaker 1 Pass rushing.

Speaker 1 It's not just Chris Jones.

Speaker 1 They got guys stepping up and just in the backfield on every play.

Speaker 3 I do think that if Jaden had played last night, the second half would have gone differently.

Speaker 3 But the first half, it's like used up all this energy on defense, and then your offense is not complimentary football. So it's tough to keep up that pace for a full game.

Speaker 3 And I'm not saying that we would have shut down the Chiefs in the second half, but I'm saying that

Speaker 3 it would have looked a little bit different.

Speaker 1 So Sunday, you're playing the Seahawks on Sunday night football. Then you have the Lions.

Speaker 1 Is Sunday a season on the brink game?

Speaker 1 Sunday. If Jaden is back.

Speaker 3 Sunday if Jenny.

Speaker 1 Because it feels like if you can win that game, you're now back to four and five, and then you have maybe a must-win against the Lions or a gateway game against the Lions to get back on track.

Speaker 1 But Sunday is where it has to start.

Speaker 3 I think Jaden's playing. If I were to put money on it right now, I think that he's going to play on Sunday night.
Season on the brink.

Speaker 3 And I would like to say to America, like, I apologize if Jaden does not play on Sunday night because that's going to be a tough game to watch, I think.

Speaker 3 Season on the Brink game, yeah, I'd say this is

Speaker 3 the last stop before rock bottom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to know last year, rock bottom, but you got to put some pressure on the boys.

Speaker 3 Season on the brink. No, because I'm thinking that if we lose on Sunday night, then we'll probably get our ass kicked by the Lions and then it's season over.
So five losses.

Speaker 3 We had five losses all season last year. We have five losses right now.

Speaker 3 We're very, very injured. And that's not, I guess it is an excuse.

Speaker 3 The whole the day started off weird when we found out that their kicker was just not going to play yeah and so it's like they might have to sign a kicker who hopefully lives near kansas city that they can put on the practice squad and then immediately elevate to the active roster uh but yeah i'd say that if we don't win this this weekend uh the wheels are falling off yeah and i i did look at mock drafts today I did look at that.

Speaker 3 I want to just be open and

Speaker 1 take a thon.

Speaker 3 I know I looked at mock drafts today, and I appreciate that Pro Football Focus, they do their own mock draft, and then they give themselves grades on the guys that they just drafted.

Speaker 3 That's classy work. It's very classy work.
Right now, you'd be drafting 11.

Speaker 1 This is too early to do this.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but

Speaker 3 it was bad. It was bad last night, and the defense just doesn't look like we're going to get any better.

Speaker 3 And we're old, and we're slow, and we're out of position.

Speaker 3 And it was, yeah,

Speaker 3 not a great second half, but the first half was great.

Speaker 1 Can I give you something to make you maybe feel better that this is,

Speaker 1 You just never beat the Chiefs. Yeah.
Did you know that you're 1-11 all-time? These franchises? That's insane.

Speaker 3 I don't think that we've beaten them in 40 years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 1983.

Speaker 3 And I don't know, have we ever beaten them in Arrowhead?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. I think it was in Washington.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 We just don't beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Don't beat the Chiefs. So that was always going to happen.

Speaker 3 And we were always probably going to lose to the Chiefs no matter how healthy we were, given that the Chiefs are playing like they are right now. But the way that it happened was, it was,

Speaker 3 it was just kind of a big fart in the second half. It was a 30-minute long fart.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, not super optimistic about things right now, but it was a great time. It was an awesome time.

Speaker 3 Like going on a road trip for Monday Night Football with your boys, and you go to the game, you get wings, you go to the casino afterwards, you go back to the Airbnb, you spend maybe a total of two hours in the Airbnb, then you fly home.

Speaker 3 That's how dudes learn geography in this country. Like, if you were to ask me about all these NFL cities, I could tell you where to get some chicken wings.

Speaker 3 I could tell you where the casino is, and I could tell you where the football stadium is, and then where the airport is.

Speaker 1 This is,

Speaker 1 I would say to guys, if you ever can go on a trip on the road with your friends to go to a game, like this is how I felt after the Cubs lost to the Brewers.

Speaker 1 It was like, you just spent all this time going up to Milwaukee. And no, yeah, we took a risk.
Yeah. You take a risk.
It's still a fun trip to do with your boys.

Speaker 1 And if you win, it's like, holy shit, that was awesome.

Speaker 3 I was never not going to go to the game. I was always going to go.
I was just going to feel sorry for myself for going to the the game for a little bit.

Speaker 3 But then, once I got there, you have a great time. It's always fun to visit a new stadium.
So, I'm glad I got to experience Arrowhead.

Speaker 3 Also,

Speaker 3 bad punt by Dan Quinn in the second half. Yeah.
When you, I know you were on like your own 25 or 30 or whatever, but you're down, what, 20 points at that point, 21 points? And you got a fourth, and

Speaker 3 I forget what it was, like six. Yeah,

Speaker 3 just go for it, Dan. Just go for it.

Speaker 1 Don't give up. You guys, uh, you guys want a crazy blind resume? It's very simple, but it kind of shocked me.

Speaker 1 Running back one,

Speaker 1 53 career touchdowns, running back two, 52 career touchdowns. Oh.

Speaker 3 Who would you take? I think I'd take the guy with 53.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would too.

Speaker 1 Kareem Hunt is running back one. Saquon Barkley's running back two.

Speaker 3 Oh, that is kind of crazy. Yeah, that's a wild stat.

Speaker 1 Kareem Hunt, a lot of touchdowns. Very interesting.

Speaker 3 What do you think about Kareem Hunt, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bad guy. Bad guy.
Yeah. Chiefs.
I like this.

Speaker 3 The Patriots would never, never, never, never have a violent man on their roster.

Speaker 1 No, cut him right away. Cut him.
As soon as you find out about the double murder, you cut them. Yep.
That's a standard. The standard, the standard.

Speaker 3 That's the craft difference.

Speaker 1 Speaking of

Speaker 1 football quarterbacks, we have finally, Spencer Rattler has been, his watch has ended.

Speaker 3 Yeah, thank you, Spencer.

Speaker 1 Thank you for your time. Thank you for your time.
I'm happy you got one win.

Speaker 3 Job done.

Speaker 1 Job has, job, mission.

Speaker 3 Mission did.

Speaker 1 Mission happened. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You had

Speaker 3 you were starting quarterback, Spencer.

Speaker 1 Football was played.

Speaker 1 We can all say that if you're talking about Spencer Rattler's career in the NFL, football was played.

Speaker 3 When Spencer Rattler was a high school quarterback and he had a documentary team following him around, he knew that one day he would be an NFL quarterback. Yep.
And you know what?

Speaker 3 He lived up to his dreams.

Speaker 1 It happened. Yep.
So Tyler Schuck is now the QB in New Orleans, which, yeah, you got to do this. Like, why not? Sure.
Make a change. And the other one was Carson Wentz out for the year.

Speaker 1 Kind of weird reporting because we just found out randomly on Monday that he suffered this injury three weeks ago that is now why he's out for the year.

Speaker 1 And we heard about how he's been so injured that that's why he sucked. But also he was still playing.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So he was soft injured?

Speaker 1 He was injured. It was one of those situations where he played through his injury, but then when the play got so bad, we found out the injury was worse than we ever thought.

Speaker 3 Well, I need to go back and watch the other games because in that primetime game, when he had that black shoulder harness on, that indicates that that's a shoulder that has been popping out.

Speaker 3 Torn Labrum.

Speaker 1 Yeah, torn labrum.

Speaker 3 And if you've had a torn labrum, you know what that is. And it's like, it's just going to keep popping out over and over and over again until you get it fixed.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I don't think that he had that harness on the entire time. But regardless, in that game, like every time he would get hit, that thing was popping out of the socket.

Speaker 3 And so he, it would, that was a painful game for him. Yeah, he's a tough guy.
This is going to be,

Speaker 1 there's a lot of pressure on JJ McCarthy because, again,

Speaker 1 Carson Wentz got injured a month ago in an England game or three weeks ago, and he's been playing through what has now been upgraded. He got his injury upgraded to season ending injury.

Speaker 1 We said we felt bad for him last week, so I think that stands.

Speaker 3 JJ also got his injury upgraded from a four-week injury to a six-week injury, which is what it's always been.

Speaker 1 Whole thing is a little weird. Whole thing is a little weird.
I have a dumb sports rule for you guys if you want, real quick, before we do hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 1 We were, we talked about World Series already, but they were the Fox broadcast, our friends at Fox, were going to the in-house umpire, Mark Carlson. He was wearing a suit and tie.

Speaker 1 I think the in-house umpire should have to wear a full chest protector and mask because baseball is the one sport where managers wear full uniforms. Why aren't we doing that? I agree with that.

Speaker 3 For the longest time, I thought that umpires were all fat.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a nice-sized man. He's not fat, but he's a good-sized man.
I think this should go across all sports.

Speaker 1 The should be in stripes. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't want to see when you you zoom in a guy from New York and he looks like a lawyer. I want to see a guy who looks like a ref.
Everyone in Toronto, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Give it to us. Keep it going.

Speaker 3 You have the hockey guys wearing the helmet, the visor, the skates.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Have them on ice, standing on ice.

Speaker 1 Because I can't trust this guy. I see him and I'm like, oh, is he trying to sell me life insurance? No, I want to know that you are actually an up.

Speaker 3 I think that's a good rule.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. I feel good about that rule.
Also, do you guys want to do a read a headline real quick? Yep. Okay, here's the headline.
Hold on. Let me pull it back up.

Speaker 1 Courtney Kardashian is launching lollipops for your vagina. Hmm.

Speaker 1 Thoughts?

Speaker 3 Sure, you got... They already have Tootsie Pops.

Speaker 1 So I, this is,

Speaker 1 yeah?

Speaker 1 Thoughts?

Speaker 1 Dildos.

Speaker 1 No, so apparently it just has something in the lollipop that helps with vagina health. But I read the headlines like, they're putting lollipops up vaginas? Like probiotics?

Speaker 3 Yeah, vaginas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Okay.
Yeah. Hobiotics.
They got me on that headline. Courtney Kardashi is launching lollipops for vagina.

Speaker 1 I thought those were, hey, here's a lollipop for your vagina suck it.

Speaker 3 For whose vagina?

Speaker 1 Their own. For their own vagina.
Yeah. Now, are they? Vaginal health.

Speaker 1 Why don't we get dick lollipops? Are they flavored?

Speaker 1 I don't think, I think they have to be some flavor they got to be flavored yeah i think it's kind of like uh swimming pools you gotta keep the pH balance right got it

Speaker 1 that's for your vagina yes sir this seems uh

Speaker 1 do you ever shock do you have to ever have to shock the vagina with some chlorine there's a chance okay this seems like it might not be the healthiest thing to do is to take vagina

Speaker 3 vagina medicine advice from a Kardashian I guess they probably

Speaker 1 yeah they all have them yeah they do not Rob though shout out Rob people forget about Rob

Speaker 1 and the time that he had to fly back from France because his suit didn't fit.

Speaker 3 Good guy.

Speaker 1 Good guy. Is he a good guy? He's got.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 3 Okay. Fuck it.
I'm not going to look into Rob.

Speaker 1 I'm going to endorse Rob. Okay.
I'm officially endorsing Rob. Do we have any other cleanup from Sunday's games? Or we're going to talk college football with Andy Staples.

Speaker 1 I will say one of the funny things about

Speaker 1 college football, and we briefly talked about it. Did you guys see Indiana, who's awesome, awesome, one of the best teams in the country? Their quarterback, Fernando Mendoza, is also awesome.

Speaker 1 I think he's leading the odds to win a Heisman. His little brother is the backup.

Speaker 1 So when his little brother gets in, people get very mad because they think that Indiana is running up the score.

Speaker 1 His little brother scored a touchdown like up 50, and every all the quote tweets and replies are like, this is bullshit. They're stat padding for the Heisman.
I just like that there's two brothers.

Speaker 1 Like he he was pumped for his little brother. Yeah, it was cool.

Speaker 3 It was very cool. It was very fun to see.
I wonder if they'd ever do like the old switcheroo.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that would be good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like at halftime. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They wear 15 and 16, I believe. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Give it a shot. Come on, Sig.
Yeah. I do have one more thing from the NFL weekend, some cleanup.
Okay. Did you see, did you see

Speaker 3 Terry when he was talking to Howie

Speaker 3 on Fox and

Speaker 3 he was talking about Andy Reid and hog farmers? Okay. Can you pull up this video, Max? Look at

Speaker 3 Camerapan to Michael Strahan.

Speaker 3 Search for that on X.com, the everything app. It's all happening on X.
Shout out.

Speaker 1 X, but not shout out.

Speaker 1 I love Terry Farms. Well, they don't pay us money.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I guess they do.

Speaker 1 Are they taking that away?

Speaker 3 No, I think they've been doing it, but my account's been inactive. I get an email from them every month being like, hey.
We have money.

Speaker 1 I never signed up for it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I didn't sign up for it either.

Speaker 1 It's just so random which, like the amounts that get paid out.

Speaker 3 Or here's Terry talking about hog farmers.

Speaker 1 One month it will be like, here's your $25 from X, and then the next month it'll be like, here's $2,000. What? Okay.

Speaker 1 Guess I got to pick it up. Okay, here it is.
The other day, I text Andy Reid, and I got a text back, and I thought it was Andy Reid, but it was some guy selling pigs. But I sounded good.

Speaker 1 I should have told y'all that so y'all would have thought I actually talked to Andy Reid, but I didn't really know.

Speaker 1 I wish you

Speaker 1 that was the old sometimes I start a sentence and I don't know where it's going.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, that would have been a great story if he had just not apologized for the story. Yeah, it's a great.
I texted Andy Reed, but it turns out it was a guy selling pigs. Just keep going.

Speaker 1 That's how through.

Speaker 3 That's a great story, Terry. Trust yourself.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 3 It's what, yeah, all-time soundbite. Oh, and also, we got to the bottom of the ping-pong tables in the Ravens' locker room.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Lamar insisted that they take the ping-pong tables out.

Speaker 3 He said we're done playing games. So he wanted them out.

Speaker 1 Then he wanted to play a game on the injury room.

Speaker 3 Then he wanted to play, he might be ping-pong back and forth because practice squad.

Speaker 1 John Harbaugh said he's playing on Thursday. He did say

Speaker 1 he would be surprised if he doesn't play. So we're just going to do this every single week.

Speaker 3 Every single week. Oh, and also, one more thing.
The Chiefs fumbled eight times this season. They've recovered all eight fumbles.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit.

Speaker 3 I think that's interesting. That's absolute bullshit.

Speaker 3 Look into that, Hank. I got to experience the Kansas City fans and the refs up close and personal.
Listen, I like Kansas City Chiefs fans.

Speaker 3 I think that a lot of people have Chiefs' derangement syndrome when it comes to screen grabs of things. Like, look at what the Chiefs are getting away with.
I don't think that's always the case.

Speaker 3 But the way that the fans start pre-cheering for flags and then give the referee a round of applause, like he's a player on the team at Arrowhead is different than any other stadium.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, they are, they know, like, we got these guys.

Speaker 3 That's, they got our back. That's about to be a flag.
Yeah, that's here. Comes a bullshit flag.
Got it. They're expecting it.

Speaker 1 Yep. So let's do Hot Sea Cool Throne.
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Speaker 3 Do you miss the fellas?

Speaker 1 I do miss the fellas.

Speaker 1 We were talking about it. I was like, if you guys, because

Speaker 1 the boys were still on the bus yesterday morning, like, or they were like in Nashville. Yeah, they went from Atlanta to Nashville, which is the home base.

Speaker 1 But I was saying, I was like, if you guys, you know, want to send it to Kansas City, I'll come meet you. Oh.
I was ready to get back on the bus. You'd roll up sick.

Speaker 1 There is, there's, it's a very hollow feeling coming off an awesome bachelor party.

Speaker 1 And the the chat just dies that second night like you get back and the first night you're like i need to i need to just have my own space shower sleep and then the second day like the monday afternoon monday night you're like man i miss the boys yeah didn't need that baseball game though that was like i just i was ready for like all right monday night football ends bedtime and it was like no did you watch whole game yeah oh hell yeah uh did anyone from the bachelor party reach out and be like do you remember my name no i told them i told them in real time i was like let's just i'm gonna be honest with you guys like i don't know

Speaker 1 yeah that's transparency yeah good guy yeah all right hank hot seat cool throne the hot seat cool throne is lukewan

Speaker 1 yeah well you got mine hank oh good job you want it no no it's all you it's all you no no i'll let you talk about it because yeah because you were in the tournament the internet well i didn't know if you were going to talk about it or not i didn't know if you were going to like directly how do you make yourself a

Speaker 1 you can talk about yourself and how you got kicked out i didn't get kicked out that was that was uh he never got invited I never got invited. Well,

Speaker 1 let's reset what we're talking about. All right, we're talking about the internet education,

Speaker 1 which obviously, you know, we talked about a lot in the show in the summer. We went to Lake of the Ozarks to film it.
That's where we did a bunch of the interviews with Gruden and stuff.

Speaker 1 It's finally out. So if you haven't watched episode one yet, spoiler alert, maybe, you know, skip ahead.
But episode one, when we got there,

Speaker 1 J.R. Smith was a no-show, basically.
And I had producers coming up. They're like, hey, do you have your clubs? I was like, yes, obviously.

Speaker 1 Even though I wasn't playing, but I brought them. Just in case.

Speaker 3 Just in case.

Speaker 1 More just so I could golf in the morning. But they're like, oh, well, Jerusalem Smith isn't going to come.
You're in. I talked to Robbie Bergers.
I go, you're in.

Speaker 1 The producer's like, if he doesn't come in, you're in.

Speaker 1 He doesn't come. There happened to be a girl, Lacey, who worked at the resort, who's like a college golfer, very attractive.
Dave was like, it was going to be Hank or Lacey.

Speaker 1 We went with the more attractive girl. So that was a tough like 30 to 45 minutes of getting my hopes up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then I thought, I was like, Jerry Smith is going to show up and I'm not going to play. It ended up being a different reason why.
But that was neither here nor there.

Speaker 1 But you had to expect that Dave had the moment where he can basically make you the happiest boy in the world or suck the joy out of your body and you know which one he's going to go with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I knew, and again, I was, I was like a little bit, I was like, I was really excited and then like kind of disappointed, and I got over it in like an hour.

Speaker 1 Watching the footage back and seeing the excitement on Dave's face, which is Dave, I know what to expect. It was like funny in a way, but also like that was, that hurt to watch.

Speaker 1 The joy when he knew when he was like, when Lacey was like, oh, you're a four-handed kept, you're way better than Hank. You're in.
And then he went over to tell me with the biggest smile on his face.

Speaker 1 It was like Wisconsin Duke picture. He was so happy to just break my heart.

Speaker 1 But yeah, neither here nor there. Day one.

Speaker 1 And, you know, PFT, I was his coach. We were training.
We were ready to go. Day one, PFT, Luquan, who was the best golfer on his team.

Speaker 1 So they did a matchup where it's like, all right, we're going to put our best with our worst, thinking Luquan can basically beat these two guys on his own.

Speaker 1 Luquan even said in the video, which old takes his pose, he's like, oh, you don't even have to show up if you don't want.

Speaker 1 You're good. Like, I got this.
Don't worry about it. So he showed up, though, right? Luquan.
Tea time was, what, 9:30?

Speaker 1 Something like that, yeah. Luquan missed his tea time, slept in,

Speaker 1 and then

Speaker 1 got it, what, a four-hole. He had to sit out for four holes, which PFT then.
So PFT had to play 1v2

Speaker 1 against two good golfers. In a scramble.

Speaker 3 So I could only hit one shot, and it was going to be my score against the better of Frankie. And who is Frankie? Bubby.

Speaker 1 And Bubby, yeah. From Good Good.

Speaker 3 Both very good golfers. So obviously, it didn't work out for me that much in the first four holes.

Speaker 3 But the night before at the draft, Luke Kwan was like, yeah, we're not going to use any of your shots tomorrow. And then he didn't show up.

Speaker 3 And then the penalty kept getting worse and worse, which is why I got mad initially, because every time Dave would talk, it would be like, okay, it's one hole.

Speaker 1 Well, two holes.

Speaker 3 And I was upset with that, but really, I was upset with Luke for not being there.

Speaker 1 It was a similar situation to Dave and Hank.

Speaker 1 I was told I was rules official maybe 20 minutes before we got to the opening dinner. I don't know shit about golf.
I was just googling everything.

Speaker 1 But it didn't help that I was fighting for you, and then Dave saw me fighting for you, and he's like, nah, let's make it even worse. Yeah, so every time.

Speaker 1 So I probably should have just, I did say that Luke Kwan had to wake up naturally. We should have put him back to bed and had to wake up naturally.

Speaker 1 He shouldn't have, shouldn't let someone wake him up.

Speaker 3 So every time Dave would talk about the punishment, it would get worse. It was

Speaker 3 unloving it. Then it was two holes, then three holes, and finally four holes is what we settled on.

Speaker 1 Nine-hole match, by the way, too. It wasn't eight, it was nine holes, so you guys were going to have to win five in a row, basically.

Speaker 3 Yes,

Speaker 3 we were down four holes when he showed up. And then he was all

Speaker 3 like, I was trying to be a good teammate. I didn't think that arguing with him at the moment while we're trying to compete was

Speaker 3 productive. But he was kind of being a dick to me.
He was like, you're not going to make this putt. Like, as my teammate, which is wild to say.
And

Speaker 3 Frankie was even uncomfortable with it. He was like, wow, this guy's really.

Speaker 1 I was like, I mean, Max Manny. It was crazy.
I was going to say, I was filming.

Speaker 1 I had some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they, yeah, I don't know if I didn't watch this part of it, so I don't know if they put it in, but PFT was like being self-deprecating, being like, Should we just skip ahead to hole five?

Speaker 1 But Luke was like, Yeah, let's do that. I was like, No, no, no, no, no.
Like, he would like at least play him out.

Speaker 4 He just kept saying, We're wasting our time doing this, wasting our time, like it was crazy.

Speaker 4 The amount of confidence was so insane, and then someone would make a joke, be like,

Speaker 4 Damn, you're really not that confident in your teammate here. And he was like, Why would I be?

Speaker 3 Look at him.

Speaker 1 He's like, Dude, you're the one who fucked up a million-dollar purse for

Speaker 4 awkwardly how much of a dick he was being after he was the dick.

Speaker 1 And I don't even, I don't think I was playing that badly. No.
No.

Speaker 1 And then his first hole. Well, we can't.

Speaker 4 Do we just talk about the entire thing?

Speaker 1 Well, no, I mean, we're talking about this. No, I'll talk about this round.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 The first hole,

Speaker 4 they took your swing.

Speaker 4 You didn't even use his T-shot.

Speaker 3 And the second hole he was on used my approach. Yeah.
He put his like 15 feet short of the green.

Speaker 4 But the amount of shit he was talking was insane.

Speaker 3 What was actually crazy about it? And I wasn't.

Speaker 3 Yeah, in the moment, I probably should have spoke my mind to him more, but I did not think that, I thought that we had a chance to win. So I was like not going to fight with my teammate at the time.

Speaker 3 But then

Speaker 3 the lack of remorse that he had for his team, which is crazy because everybody on that team, we're playing for a million bucks.

Speaker 1 And that was a penciled in win.

Speaker 3 And everyone else was a lot more upset at that time than I was with him just because I'm trying to get through this.

Speaker 3 But it was, I felt, I felt bad for everybody else that's on the team that has to deal with it because that was like, we could have competed if he had been there.

Speaker 3 So that was, that was unfortunate, uh, but it was still, it was fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been thinking because like I'll see, you know, I follow him on social media and stuff and I'll see him post. And obviously, we knew this happened when it happened in the summer.

Speaker 1 And I've just been thinking about the scaries that he's probably been living with, knowing that this was coming out.

Speaker 1 Like, he just has to go, you know, everyone's been going along regular scheduled programming, not talking about it till it comes out.

Speaker 1 And it's like having to live with this for like three months, knowing that it's going to come out, it's got to be yeah brutal he's really good right yeah like a very very good golfer he like won on the asian tour he's just too cocky yeah yeah go watch the internet invitational it's coming out there's a schedule that's been what's the schedule

Speaker 1 it's the next two weeks okay there's six weeks

Speaker 1 i think wit hates this guy more than anyone yeah watching wit and and just watching people

Speaker 1 as the round ended kind of hear the news and and see it it was like lukewan was dealing with with

Speaker 1 guys you know there's a difference between golfers and like pro athletes in terms of like accountability and like being upset. And I was like, I don't think he knew what he was walking into.
9.30.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a 6.30 a.m. tea time.
9.30 is a completely reasonable time to not miss your tea time for a million dollars. Okay, your cool throne?

Speaker 1 My cool throne is money-grabbed Netflix boxing fights that no one really gives a shit about, but might have 15 years ago. Okay.

Speaker 1 I will give you guys, I will get, I'll let you guys guess.

Speaker 3 Mike Tyson?

Speaker 1 Nope. Manny Pacquiao? Yep.

Speaker 1 Verse Floyd? Yep. Whoa, they're fighting again? They're talking about fighting again.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 This is sad.

Speaker 3 They've gone too far.

Speaker 1 This is a sad state of boxing.

Speaker 3 They've gone far too far at this point.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, keep an eye out. It's probably going to be electric.
Manny Pacquiao, our current guest.

Speaker 3 I will not watch. I will not watch.

Speaker 3 All-time interview. Oh, singing karaoke with Manny?

Speaker 1 And 500 people in the room. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was great.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT, your hot seat cool throne.

Speaker 3 All right, so my hot seat was going to be Luke Kwan. We cover that extensively.
My cool throne is going to be sportsmanship. Sportsmanship on the cool throne.

Speaker 3 There was a report that came out yesterday that after Cam Scataboo broke his leg, just look at his ankle, he was in the hospital. And who shows up with cheese steaks and pizza?

Speaker 3 Big Dom. The greatest.
Big Dom goes to the hospital, drops off a few slices,

Speaker 3 drops off some cheese steaks,

Speaker 3 probably just puts a smile on his face. Good guy, Big Dom.

Speaker 1 The greatest to ever do it. Good guy.
That's Big Dom. What do you think about your Paisan, Max?

Speaker 4 I mean, he's the best there ever is. This was the least shocking report that came out ever because when Dom sees that people need help, he's there to the rescue.
Hank probably hates it.

Speaker 4 He probably thinks that this is just a medium grab.

Speaker 2 I got a question.

Speaker 3 Is this at all like if somebody gets beaten up by somebody and then they visit them in the hospital and they're like, hey, you just want to make sure you're

Speaker 1 doing okay. Yeah.
Hey, you're not going to say anything, right? He didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 no, but you see what PFT is saying. It's like, hey, just so you know, like, hey.

Speaker 1 Just make sure you don't say anything. I got all these.
Snitch. You're not a snitch.

Speaker 4 This is on national television.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you're not a rat. You're not a rat, right?

Speaker 3 You're not going to say nothing. I got all these cheese steaks.

Speaker 1 I don't like what you guys are trying to win. Big Dom came in with a pillow in his hand.
I brought it up.

Speaker 4 Big Dom's the best rubber.

Speaker 3 They told me not to bring you food. They said that you were gonna rat, but I said, no, there's no chance my boy Cam rats on us.
But anyway, here's all the pizza.

Speaker 1 Yeah, hey, eat up, eat up. Hey, oh, you look so hungry, bro.
I don't like what you guys are trying to do here. No, I like the move, but classic love, big.

Speaker 1 So he's going to do it for every player that gets carted off. Oh, here comes here comes Sarah Pussy.
I'm just curious what the president is. Sarah puss Hank.
I like this.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was a gruesome injury that everyone saw. It was pressed into his saddle.
The president has been sad.

Speaker 4 It was a gruesome injury that everyone saw, and it was sad to see. Went to go try and cheer him up.

Speaker 4 Hank, of course, hates Big Dom so much.

Speaker 1 I literally have not said anything. You just said, I hate Big Dom.
You do.

Speaker 1 You said it. You said it

Speaker 4 on these airwaves before.

Speaker 1 I said, I hate Big Dom.

Speaker 4 No, you said that he just does things for attention.

Speaker 1 Gun to your head.

Speaker 1 Was this for him? Gun to your attention? Yes. Was this for attention? Yes.
Was this for attention? Yes.

Speaker 3 I think it was him being a good guy.

Speaker 1 He's being a good Paison.

Speaker 3 What I think you should do, though, is if there are any other injuries. I didn't say that, though.

Speaker 1 You guys put a gun to my head.

Speaker 1 But you did say it. I had a gun to my head.
Yeah, you said it, though. I wasn't going to say anything.
I was going to sit here and drink my body armor flash IV, and then Max just brought me into this.

Speaker 4 Well, you've brought yourself into this. You've brought yourself in.
You've got to have a whole conversation in the past.

Speaker 1 You have. You have.
I didn't today.

Speaker 3 If any other players get injured against the Eagles, Hank, I want you to follow up

Speaker 1 and make sure

Speaker 3 because you're going to find out that Big Dom does this for everyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. Everyone.
You got a lot of work on your plate. You got to get Rasheed Rice.
This is not the battle you have. This is not the battle.
You got to get Big Dom. I stand with Big Dom.

Speaker 1 I got no beef with Big Dom.

Speaker 1 Everyone, you know, this is one of those situations where I said, oh, Hank, you play too much golf. Oh, Hank, all summer you're playing golf.
Guess what?

Speaker 1 When Hank stops playing golf, everyone's in trouble. He's coming for you.

Speaker 1 He's getting on the case. Hank's got nothing but time to get on people's cases.

Speaker 1 Unleash you. We'll be tracking.
Yeah, we're tracking.

Speaker 3 The big dom issue.

Speaker 1 You should be the big dom tracker. Yeah.
No, I got no issue with big Dom. None.
It's good. It was a nice gesture, and I'm happy to see him do this for the rest, you know.

Speaker 1 For the rest of the players that ever get injured. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think it probably has to be an injury that makes you stay at the hospital in Philadelphia overnight. Correct.
Okay. So if that...

Speaker 1 I would agree with you. If there's one of those again, and we don't get cheesesteaks and pizza.

Speaker 3 We got issues. I think that we'll find out that this isn't the first time Big Dom has done this.

Speaker 1 Agreed. No, he's the fucking man.
He's the fucking man. Big Dom.

Speaker 1 It seemed patronizing. That was very patronizing, what you just did.

Speaker 3 It actually sounded racist. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a little bit. That was a little Italian.

Speaker 3 That was a little racist, Hank.

Speaker 1 It's anti-Italian discrimination. Whatever.

Speaker 1 Okay, my hot seat is

Speaker 1 Brian Kelly. Because,

Speaker 1 man, do people not like Brian Kelly. Yeah.
It is quite something.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about it with Andy Staples more, but

Speaker 1 you just can't find, you can't go online and not see someone be like, hey, this is the time that Brian Kelly was a dick to me. Hey, this is the time Brian Kelly was a dick to me.

Speaker 1 It's gotten so bad that I actually

Speaker 1 texted our good friend Zach Martin, who was on the show on Friday, and I said, I think Zach Martin saying on PMT on Friday

Speaker 1 that when I asked him about Brian Kelly, he said, we don't really keep up. That was the nicest thing someone could have ever said about Brian Kelly.

Speaker 1 Like, the glazing's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
He was sucking Brian Kelly's death.

Speaker 3 He was like, he's a good coach. Haven't really talked in a while.
That's it.

Speaker 1 That's that right there. That's quote.
Five-star review. Someone needs to print that and send it to Brian Kelly.
Be like, look, someone's got your back. And all he said was, we don't talk much.

Speaker 1 I'll do it.

Speaker 3 I'll send it. For some reason, Brian Kelly follows me on Twitter.
I have no idea why. That's not a good idea.

Speaker 3 It's not a good idea, Brian.

Speaker 1 Assume to come on.

Speaker 1 Let's get him on.

Speaker 3 Let's see, Coach Brian Kelly.

Speaker 3 Hey, Zach Martin had wonderful things to say about you. Would love to have you on the show to tell your side.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Yes. Of how things shook out.

Speaker 1 How about that?

Speaker 4 I feel like that sounds like

Speaker 4 that's inferring that Zach Martin actually didn't say good things.

Speaker 3 No, to tell your side of how things went at LSU.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, he follows me too. Let's go.

Speaker 3 That's a bad move for him to be following us. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hey, coach, big fan.

Speaker 1 I'm going to just say, hey, coach, can you respond to me too? I'm going going to say, hey, coach, can you respond to PFT's DMs? Just

Speaker 1 you go first. You send it first, and then I'll say, hey, coach,

Speaker 1 just following up on PFT's DM.

Speaker 3 We had Zach Martin.

Speaker 1 He's got a fucking Trix Yogurt on profile picture.

Speaker 3 Pardon my take

Speaker 3 last week.

Speaker 1 He had. You don't like sunsets?

Speaker 3 He had very nice sunsets. That's incredible sunsets.

Speaker 1 I like sunsets and Trix Yogurt. Go to your head.
You like sunsets? Yes. Okay.
And I love Trix Yogurt's elite.

Speaker 4 No free ads.

Speaker 1 But that's a good free ad. Do they exist?

Speaker 1 Tricks Yogurts? Yeah. I think they still exist.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 What? Are kids still crushing Trix? I don't. We just do regular yogurts.
I haven't done the Trix yogurts yet.

Speaker 1 They get the Trix Yogurt was discontinued in 2016. Oh, but it's since returned to the market.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You sent it?

Speaker 1 Sent. Okay.

Speaker 3 We'd love to have you on the show to tell your side of how things went at LSU and what's on the horizon.

Speaker 1 How about that future's bright love it's he's a big horizon guy i'm sending right hey coach big cat here just following up on pft's dm yep and then hank you send him he doesn't actually follow me i was joking no i think that should do it though i think these back-to-back dms thanks so much talk soon

Speaker 1 like that yep strike that hit him with the talk soon strike that i love that yeah the talk soon is good because he's like hey well are we gonna talk soon yeah we're gonna talk soon yep my cool throne is our good friends at Chili's because

Speaker 1 Chili's has said that they've heard us. They said, okay, we hear you, and we hate when you're all mad at us.
We're working on bringing Skillet Caso back to Chili's

Speaker 1 very soon. Stay tuned for a date.
This is why Chili's is the best. This is why Chili's is for the people.

Speaker 3 This is why bullying is good. Yes.

Speaker 1 And it was a light bullying because we talked to someone at Chili's. We're like, hey, listen, it's not bullying like, hey, we're going to skull fuck you.

Speaker 1 It's bullying like, hey, can you please just listen to us? We love you, Chili's.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was, what, like two weeks ago, I tweeted at Chili's about the skill at queso. Big Cat, you tweeted at Chili's about the skill at queso.
Yep, sure did.

Speaker 3 They came into the there's a, there's a good chance that in some big board meeting, they had like a screenshot of our tweets. Oh, definitely.

Speaker 1 Being like, we got to do.

Speaker 3 We can't lose these guys. We can't lose these guys.

Speaker 1 These guys are our best friends.

Speaker 3 So sometimes being a good friend is telling hard truths.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Tell the truth.

Speaker 3 C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud taught us that.

Speaker 1 having an uncomfortable conversation yeah and that's we're happy to do that for you chilies also shout out twitter user uh patrick kamiski he he tweeted that went semi-viral he said uh at the chilies bar at o'hare guy sitting next to me isn't flying anywhere lives in the area stopped here for a drink this is without a doubt the most insane thing i've ever witnessed i think this guy rocks yeah he just goes that guy slide by the way Why?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 4 you need a ticket to get through security.

Speaker 1 You might have bought a ticket. You need a chicken.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up, Max.

Speaker 3 Maybe you buy Spirit Airways, and then you're like, okay, 50 bucks on a ticket, $100 on a ticket, worth it to get a shit.

Speaker 1 Means, jump in here. You replied.

Speaker 1 I didn't know you could do that. You can't.
Yes. Sounds like you can.
You can. You can buy a ticket.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you could buy a ticket. I think this guy just lied to the guy.
Or you were playing that game that you're at the airport. You just make things up.

Speaker 3 I'm at Chili's at the O'Hare airport, and my four-year-old son, Chris, just broke down in tears because there's no skill of queso on the menu anymore. You're saying that's what it is.

Speaker 4 I'm not saying that's a lie, I'm saying this is a lie.

Speaker 3 What if he just told the security officers getting chilies?

Speaker 1 Have you thought about that? Yeah, they probably let him. He's like, hey,

Speaker 1 I need to, real quick, just let me hop in here. I need to grab some chilies.

Speaker 4 That sounds like how terrorism starts.

Speaker 1 All right, Max, you know what?

Speaker 1 Terrorists are the worst. Whoa.
You're the worst. Hank was the worst.
Now you're the worst. No Hamas, Max.
No Hamas.

Speaker 4 I don't want you to get got.

Speaker 1 I'm not getting got. You're getting got.

Speaker 1 I like this story. I like to believe in something.

Speaker 4 But it's an impossible thing to believe in.

Speaker 1 Zach, what's your hot seat cool tour?

Speaker 1 Brutal.

Speaker 6 My hot C this week is going to be the PlayStation 4 community because it has been announced that

Speaker 6 here soon, PlayStation 4 will stop getting considered for titles, stop making the PS4 games only for the PS5, and also that as of April 2026, they will shut down the servers.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 what an era, but it's over. So, what is this?

Speaker 3 You got to upgrade. You got to upgrade

Speaker 1 PS5. Got it.

Speaker 6 They're squeezing them out.

Speaker 4 I think this happened to me. I actually tried to fire up my PS4 this weekend.

Speaker 4 I didn't know this, but it wouldn't let me sign in. It wouldn't let me sign into my PlayStation Network.

Speaker 4 And then I looked it up online, and a lot of people were like, oh, yeah, they're not letting me sign in either. They're just not letting you play.
You can't play if you can't sign in.

Speaker 6 That might just be like a soft squeeze out before you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a soft squeeze out.

Speaker 1 No. And I haven't squeezed out.

Speaker 4 I hadn't fired it. I had like a lazy Saturday, and I was like, fuck it, let let me fire up the PS4.
I haven't played in a while. And then it let me sign into Wi-Fi on the PS4.

Speaker 4 But then once I tried to sign into my PlayStation Network, it just said error, error, error. And then I looked it up and a bunch of other people are like, yeah, it's doing that to me too.

Speaker 1 I don't know why.

Speaker 3 Now, what games can you play on PlayStation 4 that are like the most popular that you cannot play on PlayStation 5? Like what games are we going to lose?

Speaker 6 So I'm pretty sure a lot of the games will come backwards compatible.

Speaker 6 So you can play the games. It's more so upcoming titles, you'll no longer be able to play on the PS4.
PS4. Okay, you got to hit the Best Buy

Speaker 6 or you got to hit a technology store and get new console.

Speaker 3 Okay, got to hit the store.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 3 Thank you, Zach. You're welcome.
And then you're quick throwing PlayStation 6 going to come out.

Speaker 1 Is there?

Speaker 6 I know the new Xbox is rumored next year. I'm not sure about the PlayStation.

Speaker 6 But both of those consoles will probably still come out before we get GTA 6.

Speaker 1 That hurts. GTA 6 never coming out.
It's never coming out.

Speaker 6 coming out. It's just an idea of a game.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I should just skip to seven.

Speaker 1 I don't hate that.

Speaker 1 All right, what's your cool throne? How's your throat?

Speaker 6 We're getting back up to 100% capacity on the vocal cords.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Should be sick.
You were sick. Are sick.
Am sick.

Speaker 1 I feel under the.

Speaker 6 I like. Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe. I don't think so.
You can just admit that you're sick.

Speaker 1 I don't think I'm.

Speaker 6 It is a possibility.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 But it doesn't feel. I'm like contained sick, not contagious sick.

Speaker 1 Contained sick. Yeah.
Okay. So it's not an outbreak.
No, no, no.

Speaker 6 No outbreaks. Super contained.
One vessel, my body. Yeah.

Speaker 1 How's the diet going in the booth?

Speaker 4 Really good day.

Speaker 1 It's a bad day to talk about it. Why?

Speaker 1 Why? What happened?

Speaker 1 It's over.

Speaker 1 I've had a good 48 hours. It's over? It's over.

Speaker 1 What do you mean it's over? We're going to lose like 55 pounds in two months. Okay, just do it.
Nah.

Speaker 3 How much ice cream did you guys have today?

Speaker 4 I've had zero ice cream since Sunday.

Speaker 1 I've actually had zero ice cream since Sunday as well. Me too.

Speaker 4 Steven Chase Sundays, which is probably like 5,000 calories.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's so good. I'm just kind of keeping my ice cream to a couple times.
Football days. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Sunday. It's football on tonight.

Speaker 1 Thursday.

Speaker 1 Football days tonight. Yeah, there is football on tonight.
But we won't be here.

Speaker 1 Okay, your cool throne.

Speaker 6 My cool throne today is going to be,

Speaker 6 I think heists are back again. I don't know if you guys have seen this, but there's another heist.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 This time not in the Louvre, this time in the United States

Speaker 6 Florida Mall from the roof propelling through a concrete ceiling into Champ Sports. What?

Speaker 3 What were they stealing at Champ Sports that they had to go through the ceiling?

Speaker 6 So many Nikes.

Speaker 1 This is such a funny Nikes. It's a funny dichotomy of, you know,

Speaker 1 French dudes stealing Napoleon's wife's crown, and then we just got dudes going into dicks and just being like, yeah, I want some Nikes.

Speaker 3 I got the new Angel Reese's, just all the Air Maxes.

Speaker 1 They closed me.

Speaker 1 Do you think they do you think they put them on and ran around in the champs just to test them out? You have to.

Speaker 6 You gotta make sure your size is right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so was this when the store was closed?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yes, sir. All right, so that's kind of my dream when I was 12, 13 years old: is just being locked inside of a sporting goods store.
Imagine how much fun that, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would do a heist and break into a dicks just to be there for like six hours just to fucking around.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 6 yeah, I think it was like $400,000 to $500,000 or $40,000 to $50,000 valued on sneakers, 400 pairs,

Speaker 6 roughly 100 pairs left behind because they just didn't have enough space in the getaway car. They were throwing them off the roof in trash bags.

Speaker 3 Did they catch them?

Speaker 6 Uncaught burglars. Love that.
Back-to-back heist. Love that.
Love that.

Speaker 1 Heist.

Speaker 1 They caught the Lube guys. Oh, they did? Yeah.
Where? What happened? Trying to get out of town. Oh, shit.
They haven't caught the mastermind, though. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Good. Hopefully, he's still out there.

Speaker 1 How many lube guys did they catch? Two.

Speaker 6 Two of them? Two of them?

Speaker 1 They were trying to get out of town? Yeah. And they just got them right on the way out of town.

Speaker 3 Damn. That had to be an inside job, right?

Speaker 1 Well, they caught one on the way out of town, and then they caught. I think the guy might have snitched.
Oh, man. Could have used some pizza and cheese steaks to not snitch.

Speaker 1 What I'm saying?

Speaker 3 Buff de frumas. Yeah.
Just

Speaker 3 a bitch.

Speaker 1 Jesuit.

Speaker 3 Je sui grand domme.

Speaker 3 Okay. Grand domme.
The French big domes would be hilarious. So funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay,

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Speaker 1 Andy, what a college football season we've had. The play has been great.
We have some legitimate, awesome storylines. But more than anything, we want to start with the coaching carousel.

Speaker 1 Let's start with this. Let's start with you ranking the job openings and also tell me how pissed off you would be if you were a Penn State Nittany Lion fan.

Speaker 1 Because if you flashback three weeks, you were like, we are the premier job opening. And now they have been jumped in line by at least two schools and there could be more openings.

Speaker 1 So let's start with the rankings of what is the most sought after job opening.

Speaker 2 Glad to hear you agree with me on one and two, big cat.

Speaker 2 I actually had to rank these four on three. So I did a column on this this week.

Speaker 2 So I pissed off my own alma mater, the fans of my own alma mater, the people I live with in town, because I had LSU number one and I had Florida number two.

Speaker 2 And the reason I had LSU number one, three of the last four coaches have won national titles. One of those is Nick Saban.
He's an all-time great, of course.

Speaker 2 Are we sure Les Miles and Ed Orgeron are? And I know you guys are great friends of Coacho. We had him on our show last week.

Speaker 2 Love Coacho, but I don't think I'd put him in the same boat as, say, Nick Sabin and Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer. Fair.
And so Florida, three national titles in the program's history.

Speaker 2 I might have been on one of those teams.

Speaker 2 Two Hall of Fame coaches. So I think it's a little easier to win at LSU.
There is an advantage at LSU where every kid who lives in the state, grows up in the state, wants to grow up and be a tiger.

Speaker 2 And in Florida, it is bare knuckle boxing for every single recruit with between Florida, Miami, and Florida State. And also when Alabama and Ohio State come down,

Speaker 2 LSU has an advantage that only Ohio State really has anywhere else. And

Speaker 2 in the NIL era, as long as you're adequately funded, you can take advantage of that. And I think LSU will be adequately funded.
So that's why I got LSU number one.

Speaker 2 Florida, I have number two over Penn State for the simple reason of you've got to be better than Billy Napier, and at Penn State, you've got to be better than James Franklin.

Speaker 2 And one of those things is easier than the other.

Speaker 1 That's fair. That's definitely fair.
So Penn State three.

Speaker 1 And then this is where it gets interesting because there's a lot of teams that are kind of in that mid-tier level that are going to be fighting for their next coach.

Speaker 2 That's, I got my number four is going to piss off some people and I think maybe surprise some people, Arkansas. Okay.
So I looked at the John Caliperi hire in basketball.

Speaker 2 Tyson Foods, obviously putting a lot of the money toward that. They have massive corporate support there.

Speaker 2 Walmart's all over their field and all over their stadium. If they get their corporate money excited, you can be funded very well at Arkansas.
And

Speaker 2 I turned on this one actually a commenter on my show because I was saying, oh, I don't know if you can be good at Arkansas while Ole Miss is good and while Missouri is good.

Speaker 2 And this commenter on my show goes, Andy, what did you think of the Ole Miss job before they hired Lane Kiffen? Yeah. And I'm like, nope, touche.
So that's like, you make the right hire at Arkansas.

Speaker 2 You can have what Lane Kiffin is at Ole Miss. You can have what Eli Drinkwitz is at Missouri, what Clark Lee is at Vanderbilt.
So if they nail the hire, they can be competitive in the SEC.

Speaker 2 Like there's no reason they can't. What you're seeing at Vanderbilt, what you're seeing at Missouri and Ole Miss, prove that.

Speaker 2 Because if you go back five years and say, well, Matt Luke's Ole Miss is equivalent to Sam Pittman's Arkansas, and I mean, it's parallels all over the place.

Speaker 2 If you make this higher right, that's a good job. Yep.

Speaker 3 Yep. Internet commenters telling the truth.
You listen to them.

Speaker 1 We are Legion.

Speaker 3 Expect us. Yes.

Speaker 2 This guy spelled everything right, though. Unfortunate.

Speaker 3 Unfortunate.

Speaker 3 what about Penn State, though? Like, if Penn State, do they have to act fast?

Speaker 3 I feel like now Penn State is in panic mode, where it's like, maybe not panic mode, but it's like, you know, the timetable got sped up so much that they want to nail something down before these other dominoes start to fall.

Speaker 2 I don't think they have to act fast. I think they,

Speaker 2 because they might be fishing from a different pond as Florida and LSU. Like, Florida and LSU probably both want Lane.
Like, I know Florida wants Lane. I would imagine LSU wants Lane too.

Speaker 2 But Penn State might be looking at a different group of candidates. And there's a name that I'm going to bring up, PFT.
And I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Don't do it in advance.

Speaker 3 I told Big Cat last week, or maybe it was two weeks ago, I was like, I know this is irrational right now, but the fact that SIG is having such success at Indiana, you're going to find some ADs that are like, we have to find the next SIG.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, let's just go back to JMU and get Bob Chesney. And I was like, I know it's irrational.
And Big Cat was like, I don't think that he's going to be in there for Penn State.

Speaker 3 I feel like he's right in there for like, if UNC opens up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's other ones for sure.

Speaker 3 Certainly Virginia Tech. But the more I think about it, the more I am now actually starting to worry about Penn State.

Speaker 2 You should. You should.

Speaker 2 So now, I will say, the next Kurt Signetti, if you're looking for the Kurt Signetti profile, like guy in his 60s who's coached at all these different levels and won, it's actually Willie Fritz at Houston,

Speaker 2 who is 65 and has won it, you know, Sam Houston State and Georgia Southern and Tulane. So that he's the model for that.

Speaker 2 Bob Chesney is young, devastatingly handsome, Kurt Signetti, because he's won at Holy Cross. He's won at

Speaker 2 a small school whose name I can't even pronounce. And if I pronounce it, it'll probably sound like a part of a woman's anatomy.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 2 job he's done at JMU has been awesome.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it's one of those things. So I do a show on Yahoo with Stephen Godfrey and Ross Dillinger.
And Stephen Godfrey made this great point. He said,

Speaker 2 if Bob Chesney had done this and been the coach at Holy Cross and then been the coach at JMU and then gone to, you know, Syracuse, Boston College, any of those, because he's a Northeast guy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Penn State would just be walking up there and bringing him back. But because he's a JMU, you can't really quite do that.
But why does he have to coach at Boston College first?

Speaker 1 So that was my, when Pianti brought it up, it's not that he's not a good coach and that Penn State wouldn't be smart to hire him.

Speaker 1 It's more that Penn State, it feels like, has a little bit of an elitism thing where you got to sell it to all the boosters and they're going to be like, no, we're not.

Speaker 1 We're supposed to be getting Elaine Kiffin. We're not supposed to be getting JM Use Coach, which is stupid reasoning, but I do think that reasoning probably will prevail

Speaker 1 with the people who, you know, spend money at Penn State.

Speaker 2 Well, and the hardest part for the person who takes the Penn State job, and I think this is going to scare some people off, the guy they just fired went 34 and 8 in his last three full seasons.

Speaker 2 Like, you have to do better than that. Yeah.
And so there's only one comparison I can make to a recent, you know, semi-recent firing.

Speaker 2 It's when Georgia fired Mark Richt after the 2015 season, where Mark Richt is winning double-digit games every year, but it's just not quite enough.

Speaker 2 And the reason Georgia did it when they did it, well, there's a couple of things. One, they freaked out and started Faton Balta in the Florida game.

Speaker 2 The offensive coordinator, by the way, who made that decision or helped make that decision, now the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 and i'll again i i have a bounty out i will pay any nfl reporter who will ask brian schotenheimer in a cowboys press conference about faton bauta 500 bucks right now so just please do that we'll match we'll match so a thousand bucks

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 2 the georgia fires mark ricked because south carolina is about to hire kirby smart

Speaker 2 and they want they didn't want to miss out on kirby smart

Speaker 2 Is there a Kirby Smart out there? And if you're Penn State, you're probably not looking in the coordinator pool because there's not an obvious Kirby Smart type in the coordinator pool.

Speaker 2 You're probably looking in the power conference head coach pool, but that means like Clark Lee at Vanderbilt, who's at his alma mater, who, by the way, is probably going to get calls for these other SEC jobs.

Speaker 2 Like if you're Penn State, I'd call Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame, but I think he's going to tell you no.

Speaker 1 I think Marcus Freeman, I think Marcus Freeman already signed his new contract. Yeah, I think that's what I've got.

Speaker 1 That's my thought on Marcus Freeman because I know Notre Dame fans are mad whenever his name comes up. I'm saying it right now.

Speaker 1 I I think Marcus Freeman will have his new contract announced at the end of the season, but he's already signed it.

Speaker 2 I wouldn't be shocked. I would not be shocked by Kat.
So there's a lot of, it's tough for Penn State because are there assistant coaches, are there coordinators who fit?

Speaker 2 Like Will Stein in Oregon is a hot name as a coordinator, but I don't know that he would fit in the Penn State search, even though.

Speaker 2 I think he could very much figure in, let's say, a Florida state opens or something like that. And he's worked kind of all over the place.

Speaker 2 He's from Louisville, he's worked in Texas, now he's in Oregon, but don't know if that worked.

Speaker 2 One interesting name I heard today that I'll throw out there, and I, I just, because I just think this guy's interesting from his background and what he's done.

Speaker 2 And this is not necessarily just for Penn State, this is for some other jobs that may open. I don't know, in the Big Ten, like maybe Michigan State might open, maybe Wisconsin might open.

Speaker 2 What about Brian Hartline, the offensive coordinator at Ohio State? Best receivers coach in the world.

Speaker 2 I will say that, like, I'm not being hyperbolic. He's better than anybody else in college and probably better than anybody in the NFL.
He's one of the best recruiters ever.

Speaker 2 Like, if I said stud receivers coach, who's his team's best recruiter,

Speaker 2 who am I talking about circa 2000? Who's that person?

Speaker 3 Would that be Urban Meyer?

Speaker 2 That would be Urban Meyer. That would be Urban Meyer at Notre Dame.
Now, he had to go to Bowling Green in Utah.

Speaker 2 But Heartline, because of who he can recruit to your program, probably commands a little bit higher first step.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you can't beat him, so you might as well just copy him. And

Speaker 1 that solves that. All right.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I mean, the Penn State job will be very interesting, especially because it feels like the minute Matt Rule was named for that job, Nebraska's taking a nosedive in play on the field.

Speaker 1 I have a question about going back to LSU real quick. So, Brian Kelly, I don't think I've ever seen a coach get fired, and not one person has said a nice thing about him.

Speaker 1 It actually makes like James Franklin looks like the greatest guy ever.

Speaker 1 Because when James Franklin got fired, and you could say whatever you want about James Franklin, there was a ton of stories that came out being like he cared, you know, he would, you know, call.

Speaker 1 Like, I saw a former player who was a walk-on. It's like he called and gave a note to my prospective employer and like shit like that, showing up, texting.

Speaker 1 Every single story about Brian Kelly is he's the worst human being ever.

Speaker 1 In terms of Brian Kelly in LSU,

Speaker 1 like, do you think LSU will learn their lesson from this? Do you think they'll say, hey, maybe, and I understand it's like the whole outsider thing.

Speaker 1 I think winning cures all, but do you think LSU is going to be like, hey, we did this. We got the number one guy.
We got the guy who's had tons of success.

Speaker 1 Maybe let's not do that again and not pay, pay, you know, $50 million for the top guy.

Speaker 2 I think it depends on who makes the hire for LSU. Scott Woodward is their athletic director.
He's the guy who hired Jimbo Fisher at Texas A ⁇ M. Then he gets hired at LSU.
He runs off Ed Orgeron.

Speaker 2 And, you know, if we're talking about fit, nobody fit LSU better than Ed Orgeron. And he got fired 20 months after he won the national title.
So it's not like fit doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 Where you're from doesn't matter. It matters if you win.
But Scott Woodward, and he told me this once, this is after he hired Jimbo Fisher at Texas AM,

Speaker 2 that after he hired Chris Peterson when he was Washington's athletic director, he realized I always need to go for the biggest name I can get.

Speaker 2 Because the Chris Peterson one was, they had just lost Sark to USC.

Speaker 2 He was looking at some different candidates, and he got a surprise call from Chris Peterson's agent and was like, oh, I didn't even realize we'd be in the ballpark for that one.

Speaker 2 And so his thinking has always been since then, go for the biggest name you can get. Go for the biggest splash you can get.

Speaker 2 I don't know that he's going to be the one making the the hire. The press release after the Brian Kelly firing suggests he is, but LSU is going to name a new president here in the next week or so.

Speaker 2 So we're going to find out who's going to make that hire. If it's Scott Woodward, I would expect yet another big name.

Speaker 2 If it's not, then I would expect a more kind of thorough search.

Speaker 1 And what's the number? Because I think that if you're a Florida LSU, even Penn State, you have to at least call Nick Saban. You have to at least call Urban Meyer.
You have to, right?

Speaker 1 Is there?

Speaker 3 make these guys say that?

Speaker 1 I mean, Nick Saban did famously say his biggest regret in his career was going to the Dolphins and leaving LSU, and he was the one who kind of started this rebirth of LSU. So

Speaker 1 do you at least call and say a number? Is the number 25 million? Is it 30 million? I don't know what the number is.

Speaker 2 For Saban, I would offer 30 million.

Speaker 2 That's the one when he was at Alabama, when he got his last contract before he retired at Alabama, I tried to calculate what he's actually worth because I was using like how much their out-of-state enrollment has gone up, how much their applications have gone up, like what he's actually worth to the university.

Speaker 2 And 30 million was still a bargain. So sure, offer Nick Saban 30 million and see if he'll leave college game day.

Speaker 1 I don't think he will. I don't think so either.
He's waiting. He's decided

Speaker 2 this particular version of the game. He's the best adapter the game's ever seen.
He got tired of adapting and he didn't want to do it again.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think he's waiting on Sark to go to the NFL and then he goes to Texas, finally going to Austin. And Miss Terry had, I believe she has a house there.
The realtor's house.

Speaker 2 I believe Miss Terry has gone to Austin 1,754 times to look at houses.

Speaker 2 She must know every realtor in Austin by sight.

Speaker 3 Yeah, she is the de facto warlord of West Lake Hills.

Speaker 3 That's where she's at.

Speaker 1 She's not, when she's at at home, along the same lines, just Florida call Urban Meyer.

Speaker 2 I would think Urban and Florida are in constant contact. I mean, Billy Gonzalez, who's the interim coach at Florida, is a guy who came up, you know, through Urban's staff.

Speaker 2 So I do think they're in communication already.

Speaker 2 The thing about Urban, I'm curious, the stuff that made it not work in Jacksonville, all of that stuff exists in college football now.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know that Urban's management style is going to work in today's college football.

Speaker 2 He would have to change the way he coaches pretty significantly because, you know, back in the day, he's coaching at Florida early in his tenure at Ohio State.

Speaker 2 It's you do it my way, or you're on the next bus out of town. Right.

Speaker 2 You do that now

Speaker 2 to a player, and that player is just going to turn and look at you and be like, motherfucker, George is going to have me on a private jet

Speaker 2 if this doesn't work out.

Speaker 1 So, next bus on town, I'm out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, although anyone, you can get free tattoos everywhere now.

Speaker 1 Not a problem. It's too trestle.
Yeah, Trestle.

Speaker 3 Yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 That was preceded. Urban Meyer Real.

Speaker 1 He's a lieutenant governor, by the way. I know.

Speaker 3 Urban was squeaky clean at Ohio State. I want to make sure that I say that.
I don't want to get sued, Urban.

Speaker 1 Do we put any credence or validity into the rumors that Florida and LSU might call for Luke Fickle?

Speaker 2 I saw that yesterday on the internet.

Speaker 2 I don't really know who put that out there.

Speaker 1 Crazy. There's a lot of rumors.
I mean, listen, I would hate to lose him, but I understand you got to do what's best for your family. If someone, if LSU calls, you got to take that job.

Speaker 2 He did take a group of five team to the 14 playoffs. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 If the NCAA never decides they're going to go backwards and go back to a 14 playoff, don't you want a guy who can prove that he can get to a 14 playoff?

Speaker 2 Listen, I'm having a hard time saying no here.

Speaker 2 As a Florida greater, like, I don't represent all of the Florida Gators. They've not bestowed hiring power upon me, but I mean, I think I got to put them on the list, don't I?

Speaker 1 The college football world, internet world, is like the last great place that you control because the amount of people that just were like, what are you talking about? Luke Vickle?

Speaker 1 And like, subtly throwing him in the name and then making up.

Speaker 1 I Photoshop those message boards that I now have seen been shared by other people who've just like tweeted as their own as if they're real. Listen, just get the buzz going.
Luke Fickle.

Speaker 2 I saw the best example of this yesterday. I can't even remember what site it was.
It was, it was one of the, you know,

Speaker 2 oh, it was Sports Illustrated, what, the zombie version of Sports Illustrated that exists now, not the one I worked at, but they, uh, their Virginia Tech site broke down Josh Hypel as a candidate for Virginia Tech site.

Speaker 2 Why not?

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 2 And you guys know Vol Twitter is the most combustible force on the internet.

Speaker 1 I respect them.

Speaker 2 Poking Vol Twitter with that particular pointy stick, I just, I wouldn't recommend.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's about, that's not happening. So, like, yeah, Hypel, I think, if anything, if someone were to hire Hypel, I feel like the NFL would make a lot of sense for

Speaker 3 the offense that he runs. He's not going to Virginia Tech.
He's not going to go.

Speaker 2 That offense,

Speaker 2 I'm pretty sure the NFL folks think will never work in the NFL.

Speaker 3 They said that about the Reed Option, too, at one point.

Speaker 1 They did. They did.

Speaker 2 And it's interesting because Lane Kiffen runs that offense. It's the old Art Ryles-Baylor offense, is what it is.

Speaker 2 And it has evolved to a point where I do think you're seeing elements of it get moved up to the NFL. But I think

Speaker 2 they love Hypel at Tennessee.

Speaker 3 There's some good money for him, too.

Speaker 2 He's got his alma mater this week in a loser. This is a playoff elimination game, six and two versus six and two.
So if he beats Oklahoma, oh boy,

Speaker 2 he's a popular, popular dude in Knoxville.

Speaker 3 I got one more question about the coaching stuff, and then maybe we can talk a little bit about the games that are coming up.

Speaker 3 But when it comes to the buyouts that seem to be everywhere, if you're a major program, you write in a nice buyout for a coach to hire, to entice them to take the job.

Speaker 3 Is there going to be a point that we reach where the schools are going to get together and say, hey, let's just do some basic collusion here and not write these buyouts in.

Speaker 3 I know the agents are going to be upset, but like, you see how high they're getting now, and it feels like this is, I don't know if it's a bubble or if it's just going to keep going up, but it does feel unsustainable.

Speaker 2 I thought the era of player pay was going to suppress the coaches' salaries and the guarantees and the buyouts.

Speaker 2 But it's actually making it worse because these schools are under pressure to hire the biggest possible name. So let's throw out Lane Kiffen.
So Ole Miss wants to keep Lane Kiffen.

Speaker 2 Florida wants to get Lane Kiffen. And let's say LSU also wants to get Lane Kiffen.

Speaker 2 Lane Kiffen,

Speaker 2 to get hired at any of these places or to stay at Ole Miss, you're talking probably $13, $14 million a year, which, by the way, will get Kirby Smarter raise.

Speaker 2 And now, the state of Mississippi, you can ask Brandon Walker about this, has a law that says you can only sign a certain length contract as a state institution. I think it's four years.

Speaker 2 But the states of Louisiana and Florida don't have that law.

Speaker 2 And I'm sure if you're Ole Miss, there's some stuff you can do to make the person feel more comfortable that they're guaranteed some money for a long time.

Speaker 2 But like, if you're Florida or LSU trying to get Lane Kiffen away from Ole Miss,

Speaker 2 you're going to have to pay him like $13, $14 million a year and fully guarantee it for like 10 years. And that is, that's just the price of doing business.
Now,

Speaker 2 I think they should do it a little bit differently. And not with the Lane Kiffen level, where there are multiple giant schools fighting over you.

Speaker 2 But if you're going against one other school or you're just going against the current school the guy's at and they're making significantly less that school, there's a way to do this.

Speaker 2 And I was talking to someone who listened to my show who works in Hollywood about this.

Speaker 2 And so they were telling me that they had to change the way they did all the actors contracts when the streaming services came along.

Speaker 2 Because before you'd sign a deal for a TV show, and the hope is that deal goes, that show goes into syndication. There's tons of back-end mailbox money.

Speaker 2 But if you do a deal with Netflix, Netflix just owns the thing. There's no mailbox money.
So they got to to pay it all up front.

Speaker 2 And so what this person says is do it that way, but just shorten the term. So you're guaranteeing less money.
And I'll use Florida as an example.

Speaker 2 When Florida hired Billy and Apier, it was a, I believe it was a seven-year deal. It was either a six or seven-year deal at six and a half million a year.

Speaker 2 And I believe 75% of the contract was guaranteed. So all when all is said and done, they will have ended up paying Billy Napier

Speaker 2 roughly $45 million, I think, when all said and done on this deal. If they had gone to him and said, Billy, we will give you a three-year guaranteed deal, fully guaranteed $10 million a year.

Speaker 2 There's no way the coach at Louisiana Lafayette is going to turn that down. There's no way Jimmy Sexton is going to tell him not to take it.
And you're only on the hook for 30 million.

Speaker 2 And at the end of the third season, I guarantee you they would have said, no, we're not signing you to a new contract.

Speaker 1 That's...

Speaker 2 Maybe the way they need to go, which is interesting because you are paying more up front, but you're not guaranteeing as much on the back end.

Speaker 2 But as soon as Signetti did his new deal, I was like, there's no way they're going to that. No.

Speaker 1 Indiana just put itself on the hook for $95 million.

Speaker 1 Crazy. Crazy.
I do have one last coaching question.

Speaker 1 It's a hypothetical. It's not happening.
But what if

Speaker 1 there's two more jobs that I threw out there on Monday's PMT that could potentially open?

Speaker 1 One being Alabama, not because of firing, but because Kalen DeBoer might not like it there. And two being USC because of firing.

Speaker 1 Is there any world that happens and like that would just become the most chaotic because you just had two more premier jobs opening up?

Speaker 2 I don't think USC is going to pay to fire Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 2 I think they're going to be good enough this year, and they feel like the way they're recruiting, they're going to be very good over the next few years.

Speaker 2 So I think unless there's an app, like if they go loose to Nebraska and then they lose to Iowa and then they get their doors blown off by Oregon, that would be a different story.

Speaker 2 But like I think they're going to beat Nebraska. I think the Iowa game will be very interesting.
I'm not, I wouldn't pick them against Oregon, but I certainly wouldn't be shocked if they beat them.

Speaker 2 So I think USC is in an okay place. I don't think Kalen DeBoer is going to pull the I don't like it at Alabama.
Like they're worshiping him now. He's got the black hoodie of death.

Speaker 2 And I do realize if he loses one game, they'll feel differently. But he's in a good spot.
He's got his favorite OC, Ryan Grubb, back.

Speaker 2 Like, I think he's staying there for a little while or probably a good while if things turn out well.

Speaker 2 And like the way they're playing, I actually think if they just played really good teams and avoided playing bad teams,

Speaker 2 they'd have no problem. It's when they play the bad teams that they have a problem.

Speaker 1 But no, there's, I don't think those, but you want me to, let me list you the could opens.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Still, I made this list this morning.

Speaker 2 Auburn, Baylor, Florida State, Kentucky, Michigan State, Maryland, NC State, North Carolina, Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 Those are all could opens.

Speaker 2 I would think more than half of those will open.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And boy, Luke Fickle would go to Florida or LSU under this.

Speaker 2 Of course. He's just leaving because

Speaker 2 they said you've done such an amazing job.

Speaker 1 And Madison can't. Well, no, you know, the smart thing for anyone out there who's looking to hire a coach is like, you don't, the price is going to go up once Luke Fickle turns the corner.

Speaker 1 Now, would the corner be turned like, you know, in five years from now? I don't know. But you want to jump in now.
This is when you buy the stock.

Speaker 2 Big cat, I almost texted you. I was sitting in my car waiting for my daughter to get out of dance class on the week of the Wisconsin-Maryland game.

Speaker 2 I'm just going through schedules, and I looked and saw Wisconsin's schedule, and I texted my co-host, Ari Wasserman. I said, Ari,

Speaker 2 tell me what you see if they lose to Maryland this week. And he immediately texts back 2-10.
And I was like, oh my God,

Speaker 2 this is possible. Yep.

Speaker 1 It's happening. It's going to happen.
They don't have a win. They don't have...

Speaker 1 They can't score points.

Speaker 1 They're dog shit on offense. And their defense actually has been better this year than it was last year, but everyone gets hurt on offense.

Speaker 2 Can I ask you about the Chris McIntosh statement? Because

Speaker 2 I was very confused by that. It came out the same day as the Florida State statement, which was basically, we're going to fire Mike Norvell.
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 We're just trying to gather the money. At least that's what I got reading between the lines.

Speaker 2 The Wisconsin one, I couldn't understand if Chris McIntosh is saying that he, he's not good at his job because he hasn't given Luke Fickle the resources he needs, or that

Speaker 1 nobody

Speaker 1 knows what to do. Yeah, he isn't good at his job.
They basically, that statement to me read that Chris McIntosh knew that if Luke Fickle got fired, he would also be fired.

Speaker 1 He really wants to keep his job. So they essentially are like, hey, and this is my ultimate fear about Wisconsin, is what's going to happen is they're going to throw a bunch of money at the team.

Speaker 1 They're not going to fire anyone. They're going to throw a bunch of money in this offseason.
If you look at their schedule next year, it's a lot softer.

Speaker 1 They had the hardest schedule in the country this year. So it's not, it's the way they've looked that's been the disappointing part.
I never expected them to be a seven-win team this year.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to throw a lot of money at it. I think they'll win like six or seven games next year and be like, hey, it's fixed, but it's not fixed.
And then we just continue the path to just

Speaker 2 even with more money, it's going to be hard to recruit to that. You're going to have to overpay to get people to come into a volatile situation.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's the part I don't think people understand is even though the players are getting paid and you ask you you can offer, it's just like anything else.

Speaker 2 When you have a weird situation or a potential hot seat situation, like this is with Florida and Billy Napier last year, I was like, Billy Napier needs to hire a play calling offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 Who's going to take? He didn't want to, one.

Speaker 2 But two, anybody good who would have come, you would have had to like double pay them. Right.
Right. Because they're risking getting fired after a year.

Speaker 1 Right. So that's, yeah, we're in a death spiral right now.
Just give me Jason Ecker, Sean Lewis. That's what bring me, bring back a Badger who understands

Speaker 1 what novels.

Speaker 2 could you guys handle Sean Lewis's offense? Because Sean Lewis runs that old Baylor offense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he also has a great defense this year at San Diego State. They're a machine.

Speaker 2 He won a game six to three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, Sean Lewis,

Speaker 1 just a guy who's not going to, you're not going to have to pay, you know, $25 million to, but they understand Wisconsin and they'll get a little juice going back in the program.

Speaker 2 Jason Eck, by the way, great coach, brought Idaho football back from the dead, now doing great at New Mexico in his first year.

Speaker 2 Sources have told me best dancing Wisconsin offensive lineman.

Speaker 1 Oh, maybe ever. Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And guess what he's done?

Speaker 1 He played tough against Michigan. Last year with Idaho, he played tough against Oregon.
He punched above his weight. That's the juice you need.

Speaker 1 But either way, let's talk about the actual games being played right now. It does feel like we're kind of settling into,

Speaker 1 we have three teams, in my opinion, and maybe you could go four if you want to add Alabama, which I'm more than willing to hear because they have run a gauntlet of a schedule.

Speaker 1 But three teams in Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A ⁇ M, and then maybe Alabama who have kind of separated themselves from the rest of the pack.

Speaker 1 And those teams feel like if you told me I get one of those four for the national title or the field, I would take definitely one of those four.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it's Ohio State for me. Because they're the one that feels different from the others.

Speaker 2 And I think I'm going to have to just say I was wrong because I spent the end of last season, the playoff run for Ohio State, saying, we're not going to see another super team like this.

Speaker 2 We'll never see a team this deep again.

Speaker 2 And the fact of the matter is, we're not seeing it anywhere else. Like Alabama's not that deep.
Georgia's not that deep.

Speaker 2 Texas AM, as good as they've been, could have lost to Notre Dame, played a really tight game against Arkansas.

Speaker 2 So we're not seeing it anywhere but Ohio State. Now, we're seeing Indiana kick the crap out of everybody, but also if you put Indiana against Alabama, where's that line going to be?

Speaker 2 It's going to be a one-score game. So Ohio State is the one that is a little bit of the outlier here because we were talking about this on my show yesterday.

Speaker 2 I think I can confidently say Ohio State has the best two defensive players in the country in R. Vel Reese and Caleb Downs.
And then they've also got Jeremiah Smith. They've also got Carnell Tate.

Speaker 2 So their two best receivers might be two of the best three receivers in the country.

Speaker 2 And then they're loaded at most of the other positions, so they're so good, they're boring, yeah, and their schedule's not helping because the teams that were supposed to be good on their schedule have kind of stunk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, they, I mean, listen, you could have you could have joined us. We said a month ago that this team's better than last year's Ohio State.

Speaker 2 Every time you ask somebody that, I'm like,

Speaker 1 maybe, yes, go say it, just say it.

Speaker 3 I got 2025 Ohio State

Speaker 3 minus three and a half. Yeah, I'm gonna even give you that extra half point on a neutral site, though, in Columbus.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's tough. Because

Speaker 2 I would worry about,

Speaker 2 well, hell, I'd worry about both. It would be, it might be a 6-3 game.
Yeah. Like, the defenses would dominate this game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, they're an outstanding team.

Speaker 3 So, in terms of how Indiana would match up against Ohio State, it feels like we're just on a crash course. It's going to be Destiny.
It's going to be a fun game, very anticipated game to watch.

Speaker 3 Do you think that Indiana has the dogs?

Speaker 2 They definitely have a good number of them.

Speaker 2 I don't know, like, if we're comparing to Ohio State, I'm still going to take RVL Reese, and I'm going to take Caleb Downs, and I'm going to take Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 2 But Indiana absolutely has a bunch of NFL dudes. Like, this is not a plucky, feel-good Disney story.
Like, Indiana beats the crap out of people.

Speaker 2 Like, if you're supposed to lose to Indiana, they beat you by 50. And I think you look at the Oregon game because Oregon is loaded top to bottom with NFL talent.

Speaker 2 Indiana was absolutely as good or better than Oregon.

Speaker 2 When Oregon got to pick six, that's normally when a team that's the plucky Disney story would fold.

Speaker 1 Indiana's like, ah, whatever.

Speaker 2 We're just going to drive right back down the field. So, you know, Elijah Surat's awesome at receiver.
D'Angelo Pons at corner. Like, these are legit dudes.
Mikhail Kamara coming off the edge.

Speaker 2 Fernando Mendoza is the upgrade. Like they had, they brought back pretty much everything that made last year's team special.

Speaker 2 And as good as Curtis Rourke was, Fernando Mendoza, and if you ask the NFL Scouts, they love him. Like, big-time upgrade.
And so it just makes them that more dangerous. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, Mendoza's awesome. And I also love that his brother's the backup.
And then people flipping out that they think that Mendoza is still in like a 50-point game.

Speaker 1 All right, I have three teams for you. I call them the...

Speaker 1 It's the Jesse Pinkman. They can't keep getting away with this team.

Speaker 1 And it's not that they're bad. It's not that they're bad.
It's just that they, week in and week out, are playing games where you're like, how are they getting away with this?

Speaker 1 Maybe they just win and that's all that matters. But tell me which one of these teams will stop getting away with it at some point.
It's Georgia Tech, it's BYU, and it's Virginia.

Speaker 1 And again, I like all these teams. They're fun to watch.
They have great stories.

Speaker 1 But if you're a fan of one of those teams, you probably are thinking to yourself, like, we're doing a little bit of a tightrope act, and we don't know if it's going to get all the way to the finish line here and get us in the playoff.

Speaker 2 It's got to be Virginia. Yeah.
It's got to be Virginia. Three, three straight overtime games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, against UNC

Speaker 1 three overtime wins.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 The North Carolina game, I watched the whole thing.

Speaker 3 I was pretty sure they were done.

Speaker 2 I was like, oh, Bill's going to win an ACC game finally. And then when he lined up to go for two, I was like, I agree with the thinking here, but you're going to lose.
And they stuffed him and

Speaker 2 kept going. But so Virginia plays JKS, Jaron Cayabe, Saga Polatelli at Cal

Speaker 2 this weekend. That's going to be a tricky one.
Although I don't think Cal is that great. You saw that against North Carolina the week before.

Speaker 2 And then you saw them lose to Virginia Tech. But I do think Virginia is living too dangerously.
If they don't lose to Cal, they're going to lose to Wake Forester, dude.

Speaker 2 Wake Forest, by the way, is the fun one.

Speaker 2 If you read my, like the day the season totals came out, I was like, go under seven and a half for North Carolina, go over four and a half for Wake Forest.

Speaker 2 Don't bother reading the rest of the article. But just remember those two.

Speaker 1 Is that for four and a half the quarterback ranking?

Speaker 2 We don't talk about the quarterback ranking.

Speaker 2 That never happened.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 2 That's Rocky. That's Rocky five right there.

Speaker 3 Those are two great picks, though. Yeah.
Like, yeah, pound your chest about the ones you get right because they'll let you know the ones you miss.

Speaker 1 And by the way, Georgia Tech, like, Haynes King might just be, like, he just wins football games. That's what he does.
He does.

Speaker 2 Although, I will say, like, when we did the who has a backup that they trust in the offseason, because we didn't know who anybody's backup was or what Aaron Philo is actually pretty good, too, if Haynes King does get knocked out.

Speaker 2 So, Georgia Tech is a very solidly built team. You know, Brent Key's done a great job there.

Speaker 2 I'll never forget did a story the first week he took over for when Jeff Collins got fired, like he redid their whole punt team because they kept getting punts blocked.

Speaker 2 And that's something like you don't do that during the week of a game. You do that in spring practice.
He did it the week of a game and they never got another punt blocked and we're winning games.

Speaker 2 Like you could tell this guy is going to be special.

Speaker 3 Yeah. What about UNC? Because I feel like two weeks ago we had the stories that were coming out that said the assistants are looking for jobs.
Like this is an active situation that we're monitoring.

Speaker 3 Bill might not come back next week.

Speaker 1 It seemed like it was imminent.

Speaker 3 Like things like he was just going to like walk away and they'd pay him be like, okay, thanks for your time, Bill. Appreciate the effort.

Speaker 3 But then they released like a kumbaya statement. We're committed to Bill.

Speaker 3 What went on behind the scenes there? Do you know any intel as to like what actually happened in that situation? Then what we can do is.

Speaker 2 Well, there was a little tiny NCAA thing that happened where one of the assistants got suspended.

Speaker 2 And I think some people kind of conflated that into, oh, they can use that to get out of Bill's buyout. But that's not, you can't use that to get out of Bill's buyout.

Speaker 2 And I do think, and we talked about this that week, like there was a serious destabilization effort going on by someone, and I don't know who it was, but somebody was doing a lot of work to try to destabilize that and put it out there that, oh, Bill might not make it to the Cal game.

Speaker 2 And it took them 15 hours to put out the two sentences, the one statement from Bill and the one from Bubba Cunningham, the AD, who I'm sure was laughing as he was approving it because he didn't want to hire Bill in the first place.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I just, I do think that was more of outside forces trying to destabilize something than

Speaker 2 them

Speaker 2 actually trying to get rid of him or do anything. We'll find out because I don't know that they make it to next year.
And I know they probably think they are.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I just like Michael Lombardi, the GM, let's be real. They talk about they wanted to be the 33rd NFL team.
They fielded the 15th Sunbelt team.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 do you trust him to field a roster this year? I mean, because maybe he's going to say, oh, I've learned.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but how did you not know?

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 2 And I do not want to hear 70 new players. They got hired when the portal was open.
Because Jake Dickard at Wake Forest was hired seven days after Bill Belchick, and they're good.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They're not supposed to be good.

Speaker 3 Sounds to me like you didn't read Lombardi's letter.

Speaker 1 The letter that he wrote to me. He did.
It was, you know, typewritten. Yeah.
Beautiful.

Speaker 3 Beautiful letter. You're not trusting the process right now.

Speaker 2 Courier's my favorite font.

Speaker 3 By far, my favorite part of that letter was how he was not lamenting the state of the football team or admitting to any mistakes he had made.

Speaker 3 He was just saying, I really wish I was as good at messaging as the 76ers were when they were actively dead.

Speaker 1 Everyone would be like, God.

Speaker 3 Because everyone's mad at me when they suck. Nobody was mad at Sam Hinkey when they sucked.

Speaker 2 You don't get better draft picks for sucking in the ACC.

Speaker 1 You should. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you just, maybe they could get their Markel Fultz. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Give me a team on the outside looking in right now that you could see like, hey, they're starting to play good ball. They're turning it around.

Speaker 1 This is a playoff team if they can string it together in November.

Speaker 2 I will give you a one that I think is really interesting. And they're not even ranked yet, which kind of surprised me.

Speaker 2 I thought the voters might rank them this week.

Speaker 1 But Iowa. Yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Iowa's got to run the table, but

Speaker 2 if they can beat USC,

Speaker 2 they have to beat Oregon too. So they had to go Oregon, USC.
But given the way Iowa's played, and you saw them play against Indiana, they get Oregon at home.

Speaker 2 It's really hard to beat those teams back to back.

Speaker 2 They play Oregon next week. Both of the teams have an open date this week.

Speaker 2 If you can beat both those two teams, you can win out and you will make the playoff at 10-2 with that record and that schedule. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Two great losses.

Speaker 3 I would say that, yeah, what they did to Minnesota last weekend was pretty crazy to see that amount of points scored by the Iowa Hot guys. And how come nobody told me what a great city Iowa City was?

Speaker 3 Big Cat did.

Speaker 2 I know Big Cat was singing Kennix praises last week.

Speaker 1 It's the second best Big Ten campus.

Speaker 3 Iowa City is incredible. I don't think I've ever been in a drunker city in my life than Iowa City.

Speaker 2 They're awesome. I love that place.

Speaker 2 I just like jogging around that campus. It's so beautiful.

Speaker 2 Hamburg in number two, which is where

Speaker 2 all the candidates go during the caucuses,

Speaker 2 where they will literally put gravy on anything.

Speaker 2 You name it, they will dump sausage gravy on it. And I just appreciate that.
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 And Kinnock's a really hard place to play because

Speaker 1 if you've never been, it is, you are on top.

Speaker 1 The fans are on top of the players. Like, it is, it's severe how you walk in there and you're like, holy shit, they're right there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's Kinnick,

Speaker 2 Oklahoma State,

Speaker 2 the Swamp, like, those feel like the most claustrophobic stadiums, the least space between the sideline and the fans. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So if we're looking at your, do you do bracketology, Andy?

Speaker 2 Your bracketologist?

Speaker 3 If we're looking at your brackets. Yeah, but see, I don't go to bed early, though.

Speaker 1 I stay up and watch

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 2 Unlike other bracketologists, respect.

Speaker 3 Yeah, on the selection show, you're not going to take that night off. That's going to be, you're all hands on deck.

Speaker 3 Is there anybody that you have in the playoff right now? I don't know if you have Iowa actually in your bracket or not, but besides Iowa, do you have anybody that would surprise us?

Speaker 2 Well, no, because I have Vanderbilt in there, and I think a lot of people would probably put Vanderbilt in there right now, given the wins they've had and where they're at.

Speaker 2 I don't think I'm that surprised. I have Memphis as the team coming out of the group of five.

Speaker 1 You're Dukes.

Speaker 2 PFT, they got a shot, but I still think it's going to be the American champ, whether that's Memphis, Tulane, USF, or Navy. But we'll see because that league just may eat itself.
It might, yeah.

Speaker 3 Looking at at the schedule, they all play each other, they're all really good teams.

Speaker 3 Like, I think any one of those teams is probably would be worthy of that spot, but the issue is they're just gonna be

Speaker 3 just going to beat each other up at that point. Um, yeah, Memphis does look good, yep.

Speaker 1 North Texas, don't forget about North Texas, all they do is score.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the USF game kind of

Speaker 2 hurt them, but uh, for sure, but Eric Morris, going back to our coaching conversation, the North Texas coach, uh, he may wind up with a power conference job.

Speaker 2 I know the Oklahoma State folks want him, but uh, watch out for him at Arkansas. Watch out for him.
And let's say if Eli Drinkwits were to leave Missouri, watch out for him.

Speaker 3 And if we're going to be consistent, if losing to Louisville on a Friday night is disqualifying, then you got to get Miami out too.

Speaker 3 If you're going to take JMU out for that, you got to play by the same rules. Miami's out too.

Speaker 2 I'm not taking Miami out because I can't put Miami below Notre Dame right now.

Speaker 2 Notre Dame is protecting Miami.

Speaker 1 And Notre Dame's good. I think Notre Dame, like, if you haven't been tuning in,

Speaker 1 the idea that their defense defense sucks was the first three weeks and they've kind of figured it out. And I'm a believer in CJ Carr.

Speaker 2 Yeah, also Texas AM's offense may just be really good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
So yeah, they're electric.

Speaker 1 Texas AM leads the league in fast dudes. They just got fast dudes everywhere.

Speaker 2 They do and tough dudes.

Speaker 2 And I know you guys have heard this story and

Speaker 2 we all talked about it over the weekend. You know, Tommy Moffitt was one of the first people out when Brian Kelly got hired at LSU.

Speaker 2 Tommy Moffat was the strength coach at LSU under Nick Sabin, under Les Miles, under Ed Orgeron. And he went to Texas AM when Mike Elko got hired there.

Speaker 2 And one of the things he wanted to do was make a tougher team than LSU. And if you look at the second half of the last two years of Texas AM LSU games, he succeeded.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, Mario Craver might be

Speaker 3 the funnest player to watch with the ball in their hand in college football right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah. The Mario Craver, Casey Concepcion, like, that's the best receiver portal haul we've seen so far in the portal era.

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Speaker 1 Let's talk about this week real quick. Do you have a favorite game, favorite bet, favorite thing you're looking forward to?

Speaker 1 It's not the sexiest slate, but there are some low-key, you know, Vanderbilt, Texas could be an elimination game.

Speaker 1 There's some interesting games out there. There's the SMU, Miami game.
There's some good games. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So I am going to Ohio State, Penn State, and it's one of those deals where we got an advertiser deal, and this was planned very far in advance.

Speaker 2 And I'm very curious to see what version of Penn State shows up.

Speaker 2 I was trying to talk myself into Penn State covering the 20 and a half, and then I just kept naming players on Ohio State's defense, and I couldn't.

Speaker 2 So I'd say the game that intrigues me most is a pure playoff elimination game in Knoxville. It's dark mode night in Knoxville.
They got the black uniforms.

Speaker 2 Tennessee, Oklahoma, absolute winner is alive. Loser is dead.
And the Oklahoma fans, very down on Brent Venables. They'll love him if he wins.
The Tennessee fans love Josh Huipel.

Speaker 2 They'll be down on him if he loses. It's Josh Heupel's alma mater.
There's so many subplots there.

Speaker 2 Joey Aguilar versus John Matier, the highest priced in the portal versus the guy they picked up, you know, in the discount bin after Nico went to UCLA like it is a lot in one game it also is the the stoppable force versus the movable object in Oklahoma's offense being stuck in mud and Tennessee's defense being dog piss

Speaker 1 like which one's gonna win in that I don't know well the the and then is Oklahoma's defense really as good as we thought because it didn't look that great against ole miss I don't think it may be a case that they just didn't play some very good offenses early that was my I took ole Miss money line last week because I was like I think they played, they haven't played quarterbacks as good as a Trinidad Chambrelus or a Joey Aguilar.

Speaker 3 So, and if Tennessee loses, I mean, Heipel might just get on 81 and drive right over to Blacksburg. Just go right to Virginia

Speaker 1 Bucksburg, baby.

Speaker 3 This would be like, I'm done with a program type loss. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I agree.
It's not Shane Beamer.

Speaker 2 It's going to be Josh Heipel. That's the SEC.
No.

Speaker 3 Is Shane Beamer to Tech going to happen? It feels like it has to, right?

Speaker 2 Here's my thing about that. And

Speaker 1 we'll say Beamer ball. Yeah, maybe I'm too cynical.

Speaker 2 But South Carolina gave Shane Beamer an extension this past year. So they upped what the buyout would be.

Speaker 2 If I had one of these contracts, you have to fire my ass.

Speaker 1 I'm not leaving willingly.

Speaker 2 I don't care what the other job is unless you're going to pay me more and guarantee me more.

Speaker 1 And Virginia Tech won't do that.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, you have to fire my ass first. I don't know if Shane Beamer feels that way, but that's what I would do.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Same.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 3 Well, Andy, getting paid to not work would just, it would be the best it's the dream you saw that i mean brian kelly went straight to just eat a big plate of queso yeah y'all y'all have had coach oh on the show like when we had coach o on the show last week he showed us the view from his place in miami beach he's like that's that's j-lo's house over there and i was like that it's pretty good that's the life yeah pretty good he's got he's got the exact right mentality which is like hey i'm getting paid millions of dollars to just hang out to just be myself this is pretty good was that true that brian kelly by the way played like 400 rounds of golf in the three and a half years or whatever he was in Baton Rouge?

Speaker 3 I don't.

Speaker 2 Well, see, he didn't post his scorecard publicly like Hugh Freeze does, so it's impossible to know. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 3 That was that was a rumor that I heard. And I know that Hank was appreciating it.
He's like, man, I should have kept him around for a little bit longer.

Speaker 1 Good guy.

Speaker 2 I know where you get your Brian Kelly LSU Intel, guys.

Speaker 2 I'm considering the source.

Speaker 1 Well, it's from Kane, the dog at Raising Canes.

Speaker 1 All right, Andy, you're the best. Everyone, go listen to Andy on 3 Network.
And appreciate it, Andy.

Speaker 1 Gonna be a very fun coaching carousel, and I'm sure we'll have you back on when it all starts kicking off.

Speaker 2 Appreciate it, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We've got guys on chicks.
Henry? Guys talking chicks. Yeah.
I've hung out with a guy three times where he asked me out in person and it's been really great.

Speaker 1 Even got dinner on the last date. I asked him to stay over after the date and he didn't because of work and now things don't feel the same.
Is it doomed? He had to shit.

Speaker 3 Or fart? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shit or fart. That's a shit situation.
Like,

Speaker 1 you can't stay over if you know you have to shit.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 I mean, they're doomed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're doomed because the guy shits a lot, but you're also doomed.

Speaker 1 Three dates?

Speaker 1 She asked him to stay over.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But, okay, put yourself in that guy's pants for a second. And

Speaker 3 if you have to shit, I'm saying that that is the move that you would pull, right? If it was was like a really bad shit, maybe she had a small apartment.

Speaker 1 You can't go back. No, you can't.
You can't do it. Because you know that it's just not, you're just facing the ultimate, what the hell just happened? You blew up my bathroom.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just can't. You can't.

Speaker 3 I think maybe next time you hang out with him, you just start talking about like the worst shit that you've had recently. And then see if he responds with his own shit story.

Speaker 3 You got to make him comfortable enough to tell you that, hey, I had to shit.

Speaker 1 Or just if you invite him back, be like, you know, I live in an apartment building and there is a bathroom in the lobby. If you need to freshen up, we have a, I've got a really loud bathroom fan.

Speaker 3 It's like the loudest thing that I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 And when someone's in the bathroom, check it out? Yeah, when someone's in the bathroom in my apartment, I like to go underneath my bed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Make it easy for them.

Speaker 1 Hey guys, female AWO here. I want to know what each of you thinks is the hottest Halloween costume for a girl.
Include the booth boys.

Speaker 1 Also, does PFT support equal pay? I'm still waiting for my money from him. Dot, dot, dot.
Oh, money.

Speaker 1 You owe any female AAW's money?

Speaker 3 Not that I know of.

Speaker 1 Damn. That's okay.

Speaker 3 I guess I might owe her money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not that much. I'll get my team on it.

Speaker 1 Remember, it's a woman. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 like 60%

Speaker 1 of what you'd pay a male. Yeah, I'd say probably somewhere around there.

Speaker 1 Sorry, hottest hottest Halloween costume it is Drake May I'll say this right now a brain hot hot yeah that's a good one hot girls it's just so easy on Halloween they just have it so fucking easy they don't have to think about they don't have to be funny they don't have to think of anything elaborate they could literally just put on like a black leotard push up their their tits and and draw a couple whiskers and be like i'm a cat

Speaker 3 Oh, that's hot. Or just not draw the whiskers.
Same outfit. I'm a witch.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 A nurse. Yeah.
I mean, there's just, the possibilities are endless, right?

Speaker 1 It's, it's,

Speaker 1 I feel, and would you say that,

Speaker 1 how would you rank like hot girls, that's, that, this is their A1 holiday, right? This is their one-one holiday. Easily.
It has to be. Yeah, it's like taking batting practice.

Speaker 3 Right. Yeah.
Very, very easy.

Speaker 3 You can do that.

Speaker 1 One-one holiday for fat dudes, St. Patrick's Day, because it's still cold.
Can wear a sweatshirt? Thanksgiving. Yeah.
Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Okay, I was thinking of like drinking holidays, but yeah, that's a family holiday. But yes, yeah.

Speaker 3 Fourth of July is pretty good for fat guys, too. Fourth of July, Ryan.

Speaker 1 You got to take your shirt off.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but you got the fireworks.

Speaker 3 Everyone's drunk. Actually, all holidays are pretty good for fat guys.
Holidays are good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Whoa.

Speaker 1 I like holidays.

Speaker 3 Thank you for taking a stand, Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was saying more drinking holidays, not because, yes, Thanksgiving's the one-one holiday, period. But what, you don't think so?

Speaker 3 You're a Christmas guy?

Speaker 1 Or 4th of July? Both. 4th of July.

Speaker 1 I like Memorial Day

Speaker 4 as far as Memorial Day weekend is like my favorite weekend of the year because it kicks off summer.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's when your dudes kiss you. Yeah.
Yeah. I think that was.
Yeah, it was. It was, it was, it was.

Speaker 1 I just like Thanksgiving because it's a football, it's a, it's a holiday built around football and eating.

Speaker 1 What do you think about it? When you think about it,

Speaker 1 do we do Thanksgiving every Sunday here? Because we're so thankful. Yeah.
We just.

Speaker 1 We celebrate. We actually do the best version of Thanksgiving every single Sunday Sunday because we also don't have to get in fights without anything.
Big distinction, though.

Speaker 1 We shame people for napping on Thanksgiving. Oh, Sundays.

Speaker 1 Did you feel like you were shamed? Yes. I don't think you were shamed.
I thought you were at the adorable times. Who did? Took a video of it.
Who did? You guys did. Yeah, I didn't take a video.

Speaker 1 I thought it was adorable. DFT always

Speaker 4 puts his sunglasses on record mode when he walks into the studio.

Speaker 3 When I step into this studio.

Speaker 1 You asked me what I thought of the Saints game knowing that I was asleep during it. I did not think that.

Speaker 1 That's a lie. You came in and

Speaker 1 did the show while you were asleep. You can't have opinions about a game you slept through?

Speaker 4 Everyone knows you're the Tyler Show guy.

Speaker 1 What was your Tyler Show?

Speaker 1 What was your favorite play? Yeah, you don't have a favorite play? You knew I was sleeping during it.

Speaker 1 You still have a favorite player. Are you going big head a liar? I'm calling him a shamer.
I'm not a shamer. You called him a liar.

Speaker 1 I didn't. I called him a shamer.

Speaker 1 I think you did. Oh, we're going with the dings now.
The ding is different. You dinged us.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we do that every day. We call it Grateful Sundays.
And we do it every week.

Speaker 1 I never miss miss a Sunday show. No, that's a fact.
You can't. You can't.

Speaker 3 What do you guys think about the hot girl Halloween outfits where they try to look not hot, but

Speaker 3 they still somehow end up looking hot when they're trying not. To me, that might be the hottest.

Speaker 3 No. When you're actively trying to nerf yourself

Speaker 1 and you're ready to dress up like you, yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. When a woman dresses up.

Speaker 1 What are you saying? Like, like when they wear like a

Speaker 1 dress up like a race car or something with a big box around them? No. Come on.
It's so easy for hot girls.

Speaker 1 It's so easy.

Speaker 3 I like the hot girl.

Speaker 1 You like hot hot? Yeah, I like hot hot. I don't know what you're.
I don't know what costume you're getting at.

Speaker 3 Not one costume in particular, but there will be people that dress up as either intricate things or funny costumes that accidentally turn into hot costumes because they're just so hot.

Speaker 1 I need it used in a sense.

Speaker 3 In a sense? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Language of origin.

Speaker 1 Hot. Hot.

Speaker 1 Boner.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Halloween rocks.

Speaker 3 I think Halloween is the number one college holiday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I was ranked, my Halloween ranking is college 1-1.

Speaker 1 I actually think I enjoy Halloween as a parent more than I did as a kid and then kid because I like it's so much fun watching kid. They get so fucking excited.

Speaker 1 It's been the talk of my house for a month. It's just crazy.
The worst is like

Speaker 4 teenage years. Yeah.
Like before you get to college.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And like after you, like when you can't trick-or-treat anymore. That's the worst.
Halloween sucks then.

Speaker 3 As a college student.

Speaker 4 Then you just like try and do mischief night and it's like, it's never like that fun.

Speaker 3 As a college student, my rankings are Halloween one with a bullet, St. Patrick's Day two.

Speaker 3 Columbus Day three because it's still at the start of the year and you have like a three-day weekend. You go pretty hard that weekend.
And then dead last,

Speaker 3 dead last, Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 Bad college holiday. Also, whatever the spring weekend is, Mifflin for Wisconsin, whatever, there's always, every college has one.
That's the best when school's about to be done and it's warm out.

Speaker 1 Okay, you got one more?

Speaker 1 Hey, part of my take, gang. Oh.
My husband and I are deciding if we're going to have kids. We're both in the fence and are both okay with either decision.

Speaker 1 He thinks I should have to make the final call because I have to give birth. That's fair.
I think he should make the final call because it's going to be a bigger financial impact on him.

Speaker 1 If we're both accepting of either outcome, who should be the tiebreaker? Love the show. Go Sixers.
Okay.

Speaker 3 I somewhat disagree with that assessment.

Speaker 1 I also think you need to actually just have an honest conversation because one of you definitely has a stronger opinion than the other. There's no way that you're...

Speaker 1 Kids aren't like, what are we having for dinner?

Speaker 1 You're doing the, what are we having for dinner? I don't know, you choose. I don't know, you choose.
i don't care i'll eat anything i know you eat anything that's not i mean

Speaker 4 yeah someone has to i don't get the financial decision thing yeah that impacts both of you the same but this is you just might have to work more you're going to have to grow a human being inside of your body maybe that maybe it's like you'll have to work like yeah more you'll you won't be able to retire you won't be able to retire as easily but still that's like that's their voice that makes sense yeah that's what that's what the first thing that came to my mind is like what what what's how

Speaker 1 about both of their financial decisions

Speaker 3 i think she needs to decide whether or not she wants a kid or not. Yeah.

Speaker 1 One of them either feels strongly for or against, and they just need to speak up. That's really what it is.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're just playing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't. Yeah, they're doing the, yeah, no, no, you decide.
Oh, pizza? Yeah, that's fine. And then the pizza companies are like, I didn't really want pizza.

Speaker 1 No. Speak up.

Speaker 1 Speak up, people. Okay.

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Speaker 3 Have

Speaker 1 He gets two shots every time. Every episode.
Well, because it's funny, because he's never going to get it. You guys have to get it.
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Speaker 1 One of these second shots you're going to get.

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Speaker 1 He's never

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Speaker 1 That's crazy.

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Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Did you get that? That's crazy. I was far away.
Yeah. Yeah, that's.
You're the closest loser. You lost that one.
Nobody else did. Okay.
I'll get it again. Whatever makes you feel better.

Speaker 3 I'm not worried. I think you have to do it a third time.

Speaker 1 Do we have to do it a third time? Three times. No, no, I don't.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 3 The way you just said that, I don't know. Why?

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Yeah, let's do it again.

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Let's do this one.

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Speaker 1 This one does not count.

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Speaker 1 We still have our numbers. Does not count.

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Speaker 1 38. 38.
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Speaker 3 Love you guys.