Overtime – Episode #700: Dave Barry, Rep. Wesley Hunt, Paul Begala

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Speaker 6 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO Late Night Series, Real Time with Bill Ma.

Speaker 6 All right, here we're at with our panel.

Speaker 5 Humorous's

Speaker 7 new memoirs to Old Class Crown Day Barry, and he's a Democratic strategist and CNN political contributor, Paul Bogala, and the Republican congressman from the 38th in Texas, Wesley Hunts.

Speaker 7 Okay,

Speaker 8 for the panel, what is the panel's reaction to Arnold Schwarzenegger saying that immigrants should behave like guests? Well, they're truncating that a little, but that is basically what he said.

Speaker 8 And he is, of course, an immigrant himself. He came here with nothing but a loincloth and a jar of

Speaker 7 a jar of protein powder, and look how far he goes.

Speaker 8 I'm not mad at it.

Speaker 9 I'm not mad at it. I completely agree.

Speaker 10 Okay, good. And someone should tell Elon Musk.
This country took Mr. Musk in.
We gave him freedom.

Speaker 5 We gave him an opportunity.

Speaker 11 We We gave him $465 million of a loan under Barack Obama.

Speaker 12 By the way, he paid back early.

Speaker 13 I give him credit for that.

Speaker 11 But we made him the richest man in the world.

Speaker 5 All he does is dump on America.

Speaker 10 So he ought to be a pretty good guest, too.

Speaker 7 I don't like Mr. Musk.

Speaker 14 I think Schwarzenegger should learn to speak English.

Speaker 5 Going down.

Speaker 5 Get down.

Speaker 10 If he wants to stay, I mean.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 8 This is for you, Dave. What do you make of the Californians who are moving to Florida?

Speaker 4 There is a.

Speaker 5 And Texas.

Speaker 8 And Texas, yes.

Speaker 14 My neighborhood, I have Californians moving in. We have lots of people coming.

Speaker 14 Everyone makes fun of Florida. Florida's got a bad reputation.
But I mean, think about it, there are 23 million people in Florida.

Speaker 14 And is it fair to judge 23 million people because of the behavior of 21 million people? people

Speaker 14 but they are lured they come for the culture by which I mean we have no state income tax and they like that they like that a lot

Speaker 8 that's what I mean he's not a humorist he's a comic he's

Speaker 7 funny so you know there's a

Speaker 7 difference between a humorist and LOL.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 8 For Wesley, what was behind the rightward shift of black men toward Trump in the last election?

Speaker 15 I think I touched on that a little bit.

Speaker 15 I think whenever you have a candidate like Kamala Harris that clearly was not the choice of the Democrat Party, when she got shoehorned into that space, and then you tried to roll out Megan Three Stallion and Lil John the Eastside Boys, everybody else tried to say, hey, hey, black men, let's vote for this now.

Speaker 5 It just really didn't work.

Speaker 8 Well, most of them still did.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 15 one in three black men, one in three black men in the state of Texas voted for President Trump.

Speaker 8 Okay, well that's East men and in the state.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 13 I'm being very specific here because it does matter.

Speaker 15 We are seeing a seismic shift and that's the most vote, the highest vote that we got in the Republican Party in the history of the.

Speaker 8 No doubt about it. Trump did better with minorities across the board each time he ran, including the time he lost.

Speaker 8 You can ask me if I'm not.

Speaker 5 Oh, come on.

Speaker 8 But, you know, he does want to like take Trump is putting the Robert E. Lee name back on buildings.
I mean, are you down with that?

Speaker 15 So when I was at West Point, I actually lived in Robert E. Lee barracks when I was there.
And as I said.

Speaker 8 Robert E. went to West Point.

Speaker 15 Yes, he did. That's why the barracks are named after him.

Speaker 15 And so my brother, sister, and I all matriculated through West Point. We all graduated.
And I will never forget walking under the threshold of Robert E. Lee Barracks and thinking to myself, damn.

Speaker 15 This is one hell of a country. Because only in America can someone like me walk into a building named after a Confederate general and then be a successful West Point graduate.

Speaker 15 If we start changing the names on buildings, then every single building would be named Jesus Christ based on perfection.

Speaker 5 Let's talk about where we have come from. Well, maybe not to you,

Speaker 5 but to us.

Speaker 5 Maybe not to you, but to us.

Speaker 5 I don't know about Moses. Moses.

Speaker 5 Look where you are where you're at.

Speaker 15 I bring that up because I want to talk about the progress and the idea of us changing names on buildings actually doesn't take harkeness back to times where they weren't as good.

Speaker 10 And stats are good.

Speaker 15 And how can we not? Oh, I am, am, my wife is, I've been black my whole life. Yes.

Speaker 5 So far.

Speaker 15 Still,

Speaker 15 my wife is white, and we have three biracial children. And I cannot wait to show them and take them to places that that wasn't always the case.

Speaker 15 There was a time when your mother and daddy could not be married. My children are going to have the opportunity to be second-lining down in New Orleans, and then my wife is from Iowa.

Speaker 15 They'll be on the farm with their grandfather in Iowa. That is America.
And I do not want to take down these statues and change the the names of these buildings because they're a reminder of what was.

Speaker 15 And if we don't remember it, we are doomed to repeat it.

Speaker 7 So there's a reason for it, I see.

Speaker 8 What did you think of Whoopi Goldberg saying

Speaker 8 it's worse to be a black person in America today than a woman in Iran?

Speaker 8 You know, I say we were talking about the trans issue before, and the New York Times really has come over on that to the sort of the sensible, liberal, not crazy, woke position I think this is great first step toward getting the Democrats back to sanity and a second good step would be we got to do something about the view

Speaker 8 I mean

Speaker 14 it's huge in Iran though

Speaker 5 you know

Speaker 5 when I mention the view in Iran

Speaker 5 head cover

Speaker 8 you can't even tell which one is which

Speaker 15 my district My district in the great state of Texas is actually a white majority district that President Trump would have won by 25 points. As I said, I'm a direct descendant of a slave.

Speaker 15 My great-great-grandfather was born on a Rosedown plantation. I am literally being judged not by the color of my skin, but by the content of my character.

Speaker 15 That's the progress because, like, a lot of white people had to vote for me.

Speaker 5 A lot.

Speaker 15 So, I don't even ever want to hear Whoopi Goldberg's conversation about how it's worse to be black in America right now.

Speaker 15 That's a bit far. And my father, who's who's 75 years old, he was a man that was in the French quarters that had to go get a sandwich to the back door of the building.

Speaker 15 And his son is now a United States congressman in a white majority district in Texas as a Republican. That is America.
That's America.

Speaker 5 So let's celebrate that. Yes.

Speaker 13 And one of the ways we celebrate it

Speaker 5 is Juneteenth.

Speaker 10 That's a Texas holiday. It began in Texas in Galaston.
Galveston, Galveston.

Speaker 5 General Granger.

Speaker 12 Galastal Texas.

Speaker 10 And read the order number three that finally abolished slavery months after the war because the word took a time to get to Galveston We celebrate.

Speaker 10 We celebrated that when I was a kid in Texas, but it becomes national a year or two ago. And Donald Trump doesn't want to celebrate that.
To me, it's exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 10 He said 600,000 people died so that we wouldn't enslave people anymore. And the fact that freedom won is a good thing, and we should honor that.
That's what Juneteenth's about.

Speaker 5 And I don't know why

Speaker 5 President Trump doesn't want to honor that. So I don't want it.

Speaker 15 I don't want Black History Month. I don't want all these days for making everybody feel special.
I'm the 80s baby. Everybody's too sensitive anyway.
We're all Americans anyway.

Speaker 9 This holiday

Speaker 4 said I can't agree more with him.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he said that to Mike Wallace. He said, you know, I'm an American.

Speaker 8 Do you want to be called a Jew American, Mike? No.

Speaker 10 White people celebrate Juneteenth, too, and non-Italians celebrate Columbus Day.

Speaker 5 I'm all for any holiday. I'm a half-Irish.
Do I get half the day off on St.

Speaker 11 Patrick's Day?

Speaker 5 A lot of people. Are you half drunk? Everybody gets St.
Patrick. Everybody gets fucked on St.

Speaker 15 Patrick's Day.

Speaker 5 That's a good point.

Speaker 8 Did you have a question for the congressman there?

Speaker 14 No, are you telling me you're black?

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 7 You don't see color, right, Dave?

Speaker 5 I'm the Lakers. You don't see color.

Speaker 8 All right, one more. This is for you, Dave.
What do you make of the Lakers selling for a record $10 billion, the highest price ever paid for a pro sports team?

Speaker 14 Oh, my God. $10 billion.

Speaker 8 Yes. I mean, it's amazing.
I bought into the Mets in 2011. So you lose

Speaker 5 part of the Mets?

Speaker 8 I did for 10 years. Wow.

Speaker 8 The Mets sold 40% of the team, not all to me, to a select group of

Speaker 8 minority investors. And at the time, they were about to...

Speaker 5 But you're black too? Yes.

Speaker 9 Billy Internet.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 I was amazed that I was, I mean, it took like all the pennies I had saved my whole life, but I was like, amazed, how can I do this? This must be so many richer people in New York.

Speaker 8 I said, sports teams are always going to go up, especially the one in New York. The Mets at the time, they were in the shitter, so they were undervalued at $750 million.

Speaker 8 And they sold, and they had sold out all the, I don't own the team, but part of the team anymore, because they sold a few years ago to a billionaire. for $2.4 billion.

Speaker 4 So I made a good profit off that.

Speaker 8 But that was only a few years ago. And this is the New York,

Speaker 8 New York, this is New York, that's the Hicks sports franchise.

Speaker 8 So four times that for the Lakers, $10 billion.

Speaker 8 I don't know what the question is.

Speaker 5 I've just said, woo! It blows my mind.

Speaker 15 The brief is, I really, I just wanted to say this is the day after Juneteenth.

Speaker 15 I just really want to thank God that black people were allowed to play in sports because otherwise it would be valued nearly that much.

Speaker 13 Let's be honest.

Speaker 5 Oh, oh, the NBA was all white. They wanted to do my side of the NBA, I'll tell you.

Speaker 5 It might be a good buck.

Speaker 8 I know. I was sitting at a Laker game with, I won't say who, because I'll say I'm name-dropping, but a big black

Speaker 8 step. No, no.
And I was saying, boy, Bill Russell, what a great player. And he said, yeah, he played against a lot of white guys.

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