Overtime – Episode #681: Larry Wilmore, Erin Perrine

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Speaker 2 Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series, real-time with Bill Ma.

Speaker 3 Okay, overtime with the host

Speaker 3 Larry Wilmore, black on the air, Larry Wilmore, and she's a Republican Star Age Mr. Axian

Speaker 3 and former Trump 2020 Deputy Communications Director Aaron Parini. Okay.

Speaker 3 We didn't get to the Middle East, so let's do that right here on Overtime. Does Trump deserve credit for the ceasefire agreement in the Middle East?

Speaker 3 Well credit's a strong word, but I'll let you take the first crack at it.

Speaker 4 They both deserve credit. Him saying he was going to unleash all hell, that certainly sped things up here.
But I have a major concern. This was the agreement that Biden reached over the summer.

Speaker 4 Trump has stepped in, that expedited it. The difference now is this is not a permanent ceasefire.
This is the opportunity for it to be temporary.

Speaker 4 Because right now, the way this ceasefire, and bringing home the hostages, amazing. Absolutely.
This needed to be done to get people home, and I'm thankful we're doing that.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 4 having Hamas and the Gaza Strip, these organized terrorist organizations right at Israel's southern border, it would be like ISIS Caliphate in Santa Monica bombing LA. It can't happen.

Speaker 4 That's what concerns me. If this stays permanent, that's a big concern for Israeli staff.

Speaker 3 That's what surprised me about it. Yeah.
Was like, I thought for sure they were not going to allow Hamas to remain as the governing ruler.

Speaker 4 So that's the temporary portion of it.

Speaker 3 Well, it seemed like the part that Trump was responsible for was not scaring Hamas, which it seems like that was the case, but as much as convincing Netanyahu to do that.

Speaker 3 So maybe that's why that issue is there. That seems a little not sure.
It reminded me a little of 1980. You might remember 1999.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 Den of Spies.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 3 Well, there's a book called Den of Spies right now about what you're about to say.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, as soon as Reagan came into office, this is when they had kept hostages for, I think, 444 days in Iran. And as soon as as the new guy came in, the Iranian regime let him go.

Speaker 3 Now, some people said, oh, Reagan, he's magic.

Speaker 3 Or it's just, okay, let's turn the page. We have a new sheriff in town.

Speaker 3 Now, Trump is also a practitioner of the madman theory of statesmanship, which, you know, only works.

Speaker 3 If they really think you're nuts. Yes.
So it really works for him.

Speaker 3 I mean, they started even now want to be the country that's going to call Donald Trump's block.

Speaker 4 You don't want to be the country that's going to have to fight out the hard ways, but he wasn't joking around about whatever red line he drew.

Speaker 3 But I think you're right, though. The threat is kind of scary, too.
Like, I always compare when Muhammad Ali winning his cashier's clay and he fought Sonny Liston.

Speaker 3 Sonny Liston, he wasn't intimidated by Ali's by Clay's ability. He thought he was crazy.
He showed up to his house at 6 in the morning saying, you're a big bear. Come on out.

Speaker 3 Bring that bear out of the house. He thought Ali was crazy.

Speaker 3 And so that's what intimidated him into, that's Trump.

Speaker 3 I think it should also be noted that they've already

Speaker 3 killed more than half the hostages. Yeah.
And we're bringing bodies hostages. It's a lot of families.
To me, the double standard is always so amazing with Israel.

Speaker 3 What they have to do compared to what other people are allowed to do.

Speaker 3 I mean, in 2024, I think that Israel was condemned 17 times and the rest of the world six, including Kim Jong-un, who starves his people.

Speaker 3 Sudan just just used poison gas on their own people.

Speaker 3 Really? Nothing? The war in Ukraine? Nothing?

Speaker 3 Okay, I'll cover that next week.

Speaker 3 Could it be perceived, someone wants to know, as a sign of weakness, that Trump has moved the inauguration inside? Oh, yeah, I read this today. I said the cold due to freezing weather.

Speaker 3 It's 25 degrees. 25.
I've been in Canada when people are in shirt sleeves. Right.

Speaker 3 I'm not kidding. In Canada, they go to the store in shirt sleeves when it's 25.

Speaker 3 I will say this.

Speaker 4 One, the Capitol is always ready when they build out for inauguration to have a backup in the rotunda at all times. So this is an easy transition.
They always have a Plan B. This is it.

Speaker 4 Ronald Reagan used this Plan B back in his second inaugural as well.

Speaker 4 Listen, I will stand outside in the very, very cold, but only for professional football games played by the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 Other than that, I will keep myself in my toasty warm house. And Bill, and for the record, it's the only time Republicans support Plan B, just for the record.

Speaker 3 Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 That's why I'm here, Bill. Also, I think we all remember President William Henry Harrison.

Speaker 3 Months later.

Speaker 3 Am I wrong? No.

Speaker 3 President William Henry Harrison, hello.

Speaker 3 Larry, you want to explain? WHH, right?

Speaker 3 He got sick.

Speaker 3 He gave the inaugural address without a topcoat in 1840 and died a month later of the margin.

Speaker 3 He was known as Tippecanoe. That was it, where the Tippecanoe was.
He knew Tyler, too. Yeah, Tyler was his vice president.
Because he won the battle of Tippecanoe against the Indian Pontiac in 1806.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I know. I mean, it's

Speaker 3 shit you gotta know.

Speaker 3 You have to know this shit.

Speaker 3 If you're you're driving a Pontiac, how dare you?

Speaker 3 Thoughts on Trump? I love this guy. Just thoughts.

Speaker 3 Sure. Come on, get to it, people.
I'm busy. Thoughts on Trump selecting Sylvester Stallone, Mel Gibson, and John Voigt to be ambassadors to Hollywood.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 I'm trying to get the first two on this show, so I'm for it.

Speaker 3 And I'm getting.

Speaker 3 I love that they're ambassadors. Now they're going to be taking credit for the ceasefire deal.

Speaker 3 No, I think it just had to do with the fire. Or maybe

Speaker 3 getting our entertainment around the world.

Speaker 3 You know, I don't know what they want to do. But look, Sylvester, this is a better question, I think, is, can you like someone for their art and not have the same politics?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I agree.

Speaker 3 I'll play R. Kelly tonight if I want to.
Yeah. But here's the thing.
And no one can say goo to me.

Speaker 3 Mel Gibson is going to have the toughest job. You know, it's like, you're going to have to talk to a lot of Jews.

Speaker 3 But it's going to be okay. Yeah.
It's going to be okay. I think he's talked to a lot of Jews in this part.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 who does he love more than anybody else?

Speaker 3 Jesus, a Jew. That's true.

Speaker 3 That's true. And he's a great filmmaker.

Speaker 3 Jesus. Oh, no.
Well,

Speaker 3 That's true. Passion of the Christ is a great movie.
I mean I didn't agree with it. You know, I'm not a critic.
Oh, Braveheart's a great movie. Braveheart's a great

Speaker 3 movie.

Speaker 4 I'm a Republican, so me enjoying most of entertainment means that I'm enjoying people who I like their content but don't like their political beliefs.

Speaker 3 Great point. Exactly.
Welcome to being a Republican.

Speaker 3 Speaking of which, should they postpone the Oscars or turn it into a fundraising telethon? How about neither? How about just

Speaker 3 go on with life?

Speaker 3 You know?

Speaker 3 Don't make, I mean, if I'm at the football games, I watch the football games. It's like, look, I'm all, look, this is my home.
Yeah. I'm dug in here.
I ain't leaving.

Speaker 3 I told Rick, I'm going to defend this, okay? I'm going to thug it out here.

Speaker 3 But I don't need to hear it all the time. I wanted to watch those games and get away from it.
We heard it 24-7.

Speaker 3 I mean, I haven't been out of my house.

Speaker 3 for a bad reason, at least, for a very long time.

Speaker 3 I don't need to hear a 20 version. I got it.
It's bad. And it's going to stay bad.
And rebuilding is going to be rough. But we need a break.
Sometimes we just need a break.

Speaker 3 Sometimes I just want to see

Speaker 3 these people, the beautiful people who are always, you know, the people who are 10 and then somehow on Oscar night they crank it up to 11.

Speaker 3 I want to see them oiled and

Speaker 3 I want to get the colonic sized and

Speaker 3 golden size, all that shit that they do and just come out here and be stupid for me for three hours. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I do think, though, the

Speaker 3 sports is in a slightly different category because it's always had the community aspect to it.

Speaker 3 Flangels. No, yeah, yeah.
You got to mix the patriotism with it. I don't like that either.
You do the national anthem, you do all these things, you know.

Speaker 3 And I actually think it's a time, this is an opportunity because the Olympics are coming to Los Angeles. And I applaud Trump for defending not moving the Olympics from Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 He's a big supporter of it staying here.

Speaker 3 And I think this is a time when both parties can come together or just drop all the party shit and people can really be focused to not only rebuild Los Angeles for the people that live here, but for the people that are coming too, and for this event that's coming out, which is in a few short years.

Speaker 3 It's not that far from now. You know, there's a lot of work to be done for so many things.

Speaker 3 As a former Hill staffer, Erin, what were your thoughts about progressive staff on the Hill asking for a 32-hour workweek? I missed that story.

Speaker 4 Oh, yes, they sent out a letter asking for a 32-hour workweek. I have two thoughts about this.

Speaker 3 One, sure.

Speaker 4 Progressives, if you want to work less on Capitol Hill, make it easier for Republicans to do their jobs.

Speaker 3 We're all for this.

Speaker 4 And two,

Speaker 4 working on Capitol Hill is a public service, and they try to make it available to those who don't make a lot of money. You can get your federal student loans repaid by working on Capitol Hill.

Speaker 4 That was something that started under Nancy Pelosi's speakership to try and stop the brain drain off the Hill because it's much easier to make money not working on the Hill.

Speaker 4 But if you have the privilege to work on Capitol Hill, yes, the hours suck. Yes, you will be working all of the time.
But you know what? It's worth it. It was the best career I had.

Speaker 4 I was on the hill for six and a half years. I met incredible Democrats, Republicans.
I love the Rotunda. I'm a dork for the Senate floor.

Speaker 4 If you can't appreciate the opportunity you are given to serve your fellow countrymen in the Capitol in whatever fashion you can, because you think you work too much, you shouldn't be here.

Speaker 4 You don't do that.

Speaker 3 I agree.

Speaker 3 I agree.

Speaker 3 And especially

Speaker 3 in that age. Pete Hegseth.
No funny stuff.

Speaker 4 No, I've met Pete Hegseth a couple of times. He's always been great to work with.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Sorry.

Speaker 3 Well, my take on Pete Hegseth, I love that what he wants to do with the Department of Defense is, first thing he wants to root out DEI, even if he has to get a DUI to do it, Bill.

Speaker 3 You're going to root it out.

Speaker 3 I just had to get that do he. Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, I see that they are fetishizing the number 47.

Speaker 3 They asked Pete Tegseth, as you always do in a confirmation hearing, how many push-ups can you do? I mean, this is De Regur.

Speaker 3 This goes back to the beginning of the Republic, when you confirm to someone, you ask them how many push-ups they can do. Yeah, it tripped up RGB.

Speaker 3 Instead of just saying the number, he said, I can do five sets of 47. Yes.

Speaker 3 And he's kissing Trump's ass at the end of every one. That's what really makes these kisses

Speaker 3 so important.

Speaker 3 Here's my thing about that. I said this at the end of last year.

Speaker 3 This stuff is comedy gold. Oh yeah.
And I go where the gold is.

Speaker 3 I tell this to the progressives too. Loose gold.
Absolutely. You make fun of liberals more than you used to.
Yeah, fuck I do because they're funnier than they used to be. And they do more stupid shit.

Speaker 3 That's what my special's about. That's what you know.

Speaker 3 But I'm not going to chase every stupid thing like it matters. This doesn't matter.
It really doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 P-Texas doing 47 push-ups five times, or, you know, we're going to buy Greenland, or we're going to invade Greenland, you know.

Speaker 3 When the Marines are up there raising the flag like the Okinawa Pose on Greenland, I'll get worried about it.

Speaker 3 Until then, are you on that page?

Speaker 3 I'm not losing. I mean, Trump has so many.

Speaker 3 It can't. It just can't.
What are you going to chase?

Speaker 3 Chase the car you might get hit by it, you know? When bad shit happens, and that'll be in three weeks. All right, thank you very much.

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