Regulation Over/Under 2

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Welcome to another episode of Regulation Over Under.

It's a game that we played once before, but I don't think Jeff participated. I'm Eric.
I'm here with Andrew,

Kavan, and now Jeff for the first time ever. I definitely didn't play it last time, and I am very excited to play it with you guys this time.
What did you say the game was called again?

Regulation Over Under. Okay.
It's weird. It looks to me like it's called IMDb Higher or Lower Game.

Well, that's because we're using higher orlowergame.com, you dunts, because that is where we are going to get our ratings for this first leg of the game.

Last time we did some box office results, and that is what we're going to go with. That's what we're going to start with again last time, or this time.

That's because last time I think I used a different site. This time I'm using higher or lowergame.com.
These get updated

every so often. I want to say 2024 was the last time the box office movies were updated.
So we'll have to see. But guys, this is a simple game.

It's going to give you two, and you're going to tell me which one is the higher of the box office scores. Does that all make sense, Gavin? Does that is that coming through? Higher gross?

Is that what you mean by box office score? Okay, I have a question.

Oh, okay.

Yep. Okay.
Do you remember all six movies that were over a billion dollars? No, I don't. I was going to say those so Jeff knows only six because he wasn't there.

You got to remember, Jeff, only six over a billion. I feel like I could name those.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. You know what? Shockingly, you might be able to name more than six.
but

we're going to get started here. Box office movies.
This was updated in August of 2024. So something to keep in mind.
We're going to get going right now, guys.

Sing 2016 or Speed 1994, which

had the higher box office. Now, remember, get ready for rush hours.
Speed, Keanu, Sandra Bullock, 1994. Sing

has, look at all these names for a movie you've never seen. Matthew McConaughey, Reese Witherspoon, Seth McFarland, Torrey Kelly, whoever that is, John C.
Reilly,

Taryn Egerton, oh, Terren Egerton, Scarlett Johansson. Wow.
The gang's all here.

Here's what I'm going to say. I lived through 1994 as an adult, and I lived through Sing or 2016 as an adult.
And I remember Speed being a big deal, and I don't remember that Sing existed.

So I'm thinking maybe Speed. Oh, I don't know.
Sing is big. Sing is really big.

They were happy meal toys.

Oh, well, then go with Sing. I've never heard of it.
I just, I'm surprised Scarlett Johansson has lower billing than Seth McFarlane, but I guess it is a singing thing. Is it animated? It is animated.

Yeah, it's like an animated singing contest thing, I think. Yeah, it's got this, it's got like this,

what is this? Some kind of animal

up at the top. That's koala.
They hid the main character of the show in a... window at the top of the

poster. Oh, is this is Sing the movie with Nick Kroll as like a pig? Maybe.
I don't know.

He didn't make the marquee. Why isn't he on the bloody sign? Because they had to make room for Seth McFarlane.
Taryn Egerton had to be on there. I am worried that speed got less.

I mean, partly for inflation and also how I feel like some of these big old blockbuster summer movies from the 90s didn't actually do that well at the box office. Oh, interesting.

They did well at the box office for the time. Yeah, for the time.
So there's three of you, so we can never have a tie, which is nice.

So I'm going to let you guys vote. Which one do you think is the higher grossing here? I'm voting Singh.
There's like three Sing movies, I think. I vote Sing, hoping that it's actually speed.

I'm going to vote Speed, knowing that I'll be wrong. Okay, Sing it is.
Here it is. 634 million to 350 million.
Guys, you are one and oh now

Sing.

Sing is 634 million or guardians of the galaxy from 2014, which is the higher of the two. Can I ask a question with us? Absolutely.
Is this domestic or international? No, it has to be.

No, no, no, I believe it's

international. It's got to be a matter of fact.
Because there are six movies over a billion dollars, as you know. It's got to be Guardians, then.

Could you imagine a domestic movie, Jeff, that made $634 million that you weren't aware of?

I mean, yeah, I'm pretty clueless these days. I mean, it's impressive.
That's a lot of people seeing it. Yeah, I don't think Clueless made that much.

I still had no knowledge of a movie that made $600 million across our beautiful world, which is interconnected via the internet. Speaking of $600 million, that's the number that it has to beat.

So is Guardians of the Galaxy higher or lower? I think Guardians

higher. Higher.
Okay. Guardians of the Galaxy is your pick.
And it made $773 million.

Next, Madagascar escaped the number two, Africa from 2008.

It's a Ben Stiller joint. Yeah.

What do you guys think? Those movies are huge. They They were big.
I was the right age demographic for them. So maybe they felt bigger than they were.
Once again, Happy Meal Toy situation.

Lemurs were the first minions, I would say.

Fucking love those little guys. They did their dumb song and like they were like the weird subset.

I'm going to tweet right now. Lemurs were the first minions.
Isn't Chris Rock in Madagascar? It's yeah, Chris Rock, Jada Pinkin Smith, David Schwimmer, and Ben Stiller. Yeah.

I'm going to say under because of the time period, but

thoughts, boys? It's tough. I think Guardians made more money.
I know they made a third one, and that's actually the best one, but that one was kind of disappointing. Gavin? Loa.

Okay, so do you think Guardians are the galaxy? Let's go, Guardians. Let's go, Guardians.
Got it. Guardians.
Oh, 603 for Madagascar, too. So Guardians was more, but now.
Minions.

Minion. Oh, the first

versus the current minions.

Minions

were the first minions. Holy shit.
I gotta go. Minions.
People fucking love those minions. They're everywhere.
Did they love them from the get-go, though, or did they? No, well, here's the thing.

They had like two or three Despicable Me's before this came out. Oh, really? Minions was not the first movie.

They got their own movie because of how loved they were from Despicable Me.

It's got to be minions then. It's got to be minions.
Yeah.

I like, I just want to look at these movie posters. This is the most 2008 thing where it is the loudest, greenest thing that is like slamming in your face.
And this is just banal.

And it says, uh-oh, that's awesome. It's the Apple store of posters.
Yeah, no kidding. So you guys are going with Minions as the higher, yes? Yes.
Okay.

603 million for Madagascar 2. Minions,

one of the six

over a billion dollars. Oh, wow.

No.

No, man. Minions or Uncharted, a movie that I saw in theater.
You've seen Uncharted. You're the first person I've ever met that has seen Uncharted.
Congratulations.

I saw that movie in theaters with Michael Jones, and then when the guy who voices Nathan Drake shows up in the movie as like an Easter egg, he leaned over to me and he went, That's Nathan Drake.

This movie sucked.

But whether it sucks or not has no bearing on how much money it made. Minions over a billion.

Well, Minions made over a billion. So what do you guys think? Which one made more here? I mean, it does have Antonio Panderis in it.

Loa.

Yeah. Yeah.
Minions definitely made more money. Okay.
Minions it is.

400. I'm amazed it made that much money.
That had all the overseas. Okay, and now it's Uncharted 2022 at 407 million versus 300 Rise of an Empire.

And I want to be clear that this is 300 Rise of an Empire from 2014, not the 300 movie that people have seen. Right.
I've never seen this. I didn't know this existed, maybe.

You got to think about International for a minute. Is this the one that Eva Green was in? Yes.

Was she in this?

Why did you say that? I don't even know who Eva Green is. Why did you say yes? Well, because I

that feels right, but she is also in Sin City at Dame to Kill 4. And I was like, is she just in these weird sequels that nobody saw? I only know her from Casino Royale.

Sounds like you know her from 300 Rise of the Empire. Like, totally.

It would be very funny if Eva Green is in both 300 Rise of an Empire and Sin City at Dame to Kill 4.

Just like two late sequels?

I'm uncharted. I was doing a box office league when when 300 Rise of an Empire came out.
So I'm aware that it kind of underperformed domestically. Underperformed.

Well, I think if you make a 300 sequel, you have some expectation of what it will return. And based on those expectations, it didn't deliver.
Definitely didn't match the original.

However, International is tricky, I feel like, with a movie like 300 Rise of an Empire.

I think $400 million is a lot to beat for

that hunk of shit.

By the way, Uncharted looks like an absolute hunk of shit. So it's like picking what's worse, a dog turd or a horse turd.

Yeah, I'd go Uncharted as the higher one. Okay, Uncharted from Andrew.
Jeff, what do you think? I'm definitely Uncharted. And Gavin, what do you think? Yeah, I think I'm going to do the same.

Okay, Uncharted, we're saying, is the higher of the two. Let's see, 407 million.

Wow, 337 million for a movie I've never heard of. Pretty exciting.
Oh,

300. Rise of an empire at 337 million.
It's Star Wars Episode 4, A New Hope from 1977. Yeah, but is this going to include all the re-releases? I don't believe so.
I think this is just from 1977.

Because it made a couple hundred million in like 98 or 99.

When everyone was seeing Star Wars like 15 times in theaters, was that the first one or was that the later ones?

Like Bernie saw Star Wars like 42 times the summer came out or something.

Wow. Yeah, like

it became a thing where everybody in his family wanted to take him to see it. So I guess he had 40 people in his family.
I could see a new hope being higher. But it's $77.

Here's the deal. A new hope is definitely higher if it includes the multiple re-releases.
If it doesn't, I don't think there's any way it touches 300 million.

So I did, I was doing a thing where I looked at like the top 10 highest box office from 1970 to like 2022 or something.

And there were movies I remember in the 70s being like comparable to what I felt was big releases now for domestic. Like a love story

made an insane amount of money. Let's go Star Wars then.
I would go Star Wars. Andrew seems to be, Andrew seems to be making the case for Star Wars and then not committing.

Well, first of all, I've never seen this movie. I also, it came out way before my time.
Like, I've got, I'm the worst point of reference for this.

It came out before all, I was two years old when it came out. It came out before all of our time.

I'm okay with trying Star Wars. I just, that's a lot of money to make in 1977, but it wasn't, I mean, it was a huge phenomenon.
People saw it so many times.

This was, and it was just called Star Wars, this one, right? It wasn't actually called episode four yet. Not yet.
Yeah, I think it was just called Star Wars. Yeah, let's say Star Wars.

I'd say Star Wars. Okay, here we go.
Star Wars, 337,

775, got to include its re-releases. That can't be the box from back then.
Otherwise, it would have been the highest-resting film of all time until Titanic.

And it wasn't. That's incredible.
Yeah, and now it's head-to-head with Kong Skull Island from 2017. Oh, that was a pretty good movie.
This one has like the China factor, doesn't it?

Like, I bet China watched the shit out of this movie. China factor.
And

you think Star Wars is lacking the China factor?

I bet it was.

Oh, yeah, this is.

Oh, I wonder how many more movie theaters there are in China in 2025 versus 1977.

I will say,

and this is just, I don't know, I don't know how much weight we want to put into this, but Kong Skull Island ends in a way that they're setting up for more story that they never deliver on, which makes me wonder if financially it did not hit what they were hoping for.

But didn't it result in Godzilla Kong movie? I didn't see those, but I don't think Tom Hiddleston or the other person ever came back. And it felt like they were central to what they were setting up.

John C. Reilly, he was in that one, right? I didn't see him.
Yes, John, John C. Reilly is in the movie.
He was like the best guy. He was the best part of that movie, right?

He's like, We're all gonna die. I don't even remember him.
You're good boys. You're good boys.
I remember Eli from Boardwalk with his grenades. Oh, that was awesome.
That part was so good.

You shouldn't have come to this island.

I would guess lower, to be honest. You think Kong Skull Island is under the 775 million of Star Wars? I do.
Yeah, let's do it. Otherwise, it would be a hugely talked-about movie, wouldn't it?

It felt like it was inescapable at the time, because everyone talked to me about it. But Star Wars episode 4 is what we're going with as the higher.
Oh,

568 million

as it is shuffled out, and now Kong Skull Island's 568 million against Casino Royale. Does that have Eva Green in it?

Yes. Who's Eva Green? The star of 302? Eva Green? I got to look up Eva Green.

Oh, I know. Yeah, I know.

So what do you think, Gavin? What's your guts telling you right here?

To be honest, I think I'm always surprised at how low these Bond movie box office results are. Oh, is that right?

You think it did less than 568 million globally? I'd be shocked. Maybe not less than that, but I feel like it's going to be similar because Bond was pretty...

Bond was in the shitter at this point when this movie came out. That's definitely true.
Bond was in the shitter until this movie came out. This was the big resurrection, and it was like it was.

It was marketed as such, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
I think it's definitely over. I think it's got to be over as well.
I think it'll be over, but it's close. Okay.
That's like Cenor Rails. 70 or something.

I'm going to go 785.

16.

Barely squeaking over. But next is Transformers Age of Extinction from 2014.
I don't know which one this is. It is just simply Age of Extinction.
It's the Mark Wahlberg one.

It's the first kind of reboot one, I think. Or did Bumblebee come out before this? I think it's the only one I've ever seen.
Is this the TJ Miller one? Yes. Okay.
I think that made a lot of money.

But did it make more than 616 million? I have no idea about this one. All these movies make so much money.
At least the first three did. I mean, I bet it made 300 million in the U.S.
alone.

Also, I forget the sequencing. Like, is this before the last night? Is this post the last night? Oh, that's the one I've seen the last night.
What is the last night?

It's the Anthony Hopkins Transformers movie.

What? Fuck it. That sentence fucking sucks shit.

I think that Transformers does really well globally, too. I think

I would tend to lead towards Transformers. Gavin, what's the China factor feel on this one? I reckon China probably put in at least 500 mil of its own.
Right? Yeah.

Do you think this is going to be one of the six? It could be. To be honest, it would not surprise me if this was one of the six.
Let's do it.

All right, then let's go with Transformers Age of Extinction 2014 to beat 616 million.

One of the six. 104.

1 billion. It's one of the six.
But oh, no,

it's tough because Transformers Age of Extinction is going head in hand with Transformers Dark of the Moon. Dark of the Moon.
Could this be two of the six on the same page? Oh, shit.

What made more?

What made

more? $1 billion

is what we're looking at for Transformers Age of Extinction. $1,104,000,000.

Transformers, Dark of the Moon. What do you think? The question is, was Age of Extinction riding the high of what people view as one of the good Transformers movies.
Truly. Based on the poster, yes.

Or

was the decline from Dark of the Moon downwards? It is almost the exact same person in the moon for sucks.

They all look like that, don't they?

Oh, God, that's really funny. That is a shocking similarity there,

just glancing at them. The woman is in the exact same spot.
That's crazy.

I can't see the woman because of the text. I don't think that's that's Megan Fox.
I think this is the one without Megan Fox. Rosie Huntington Whitley, maybe? Was that her name? Yeah.

One of the non-American supermodels.

That's true.

That's how I knew her from that Trivial Pursuit video that probably has a crown. It's true.
And when you're screaming about that in a few months, people are going to remember this.

I forgot about that. I have no idea.

I would have absolutely no idea about this one. Who's a bigger box office draw, Mark Wahlberg or Shia LaBeouf?

But I don't, I think it's Optimus Prime. I don't think.
Yeah, but he's in both. So we have to.
Yeah, he's clearly in both. He's right there both times.

I mean, his head's kind of cut off in the other one. Yeah, but so's the bottom.
I think we're just kind of pushed in a little bit. Good point.

This is tough.

So tough. I just can't imagine a Transformers movie another

up to $1.1 billion.

I can't imagine the Transformers Dark of the Moon beating $1.1 billion because I can't imagine any Transformers movie making $1.1 billion, but one clearly did.

I can't believe that on paper both of these movies are better than Casino Royale.

Yeah, yeah, better. On paper, both of these movies are better than anything we've seen so far today.

These are the best movies ever made.

So this Age of Extinction beat Guardians in 2014. Oh, it's better.
Yeah. It didn't just beat it.
It beat the shit out of it. Beat the damn damn shit.
Pummel the shit. Yep.

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What do you think, boys? Oh, man.

It's tough because, like, quality doesn't matter. Not at all.
Zero. No shit.
Have a look.

Clearly, it doesn't matter.

Oh, boy.

I would go Age of Extinction, I think. Age of Extinction from Andrew.
Gavin, what do you think? But it's 50-50 in my eye. Yeah, there's that like delay.

Like the, as the movies go downhill, the box office needs like a movie to realize that they're going downhill.

I think Jeff bringing up that we know that that made 1.1 billion makes me want to pick it. I think if we didn't know the number of either, I would probably go Dark of the Moon.
Yeah. All right.

I'm fine with going Age of Extinction. Jeff, you're going Age of Extinction as well? I mean,

majority rules, so my answer doesn't really matter. But yeah,

I would go with Age of Extinction Explaining. It's definitely a part of this.
Yeah. It's very part of this.
It's swayable, I feel like. No, no, I know.
I think

we're all pretty malleable right now.

I could be bought as well.

I'm ready to sell out. I wonder which one of these movies Michael Bay likes more.

Great question. Probably the one that made the most money.
Yeah, probably. I would think so.
Transformers Age of Extinction: $1.1 billion

is what we're choosing over Transformers Dark of the Moon. Here we go.
Whoa! Barlow Swing Mike! Dark of the Moon! Dark of the Moon, $1.123 billion.

Wow.

guys

guys you got 10.

that was a tough question there that was a really tough one that's means that's the way it goes with regulation over under you never know you never know what it could be you know what would be a torturous piece of content for us to to create what's that we were doing wheel of decades right now which is tv based and we're watching uh well currently we're watching charmed and then we're gonna have to vote again real soon to see if we're gonna continue to watch charmed or not what if we had a wheel where we had to watch movie franchises and we ended up having to watch all 900 Transformers movies?

Oh, I just don't even want to, I don't even want to broach that. I tried to watch the first one three separate times and I just couldn't get past 45 minutes any of the three times.

The Lincoln Park one? And that's a good one, considering. Yeah, I know.
I saw the night one because I was on a plane and I had nothing else to do and it was atrocious. Yeah.

Well,

I think the second one was the first time I started yawning in the middle of an action scene. Oh, that's brutal.

God. Well, boys, your score here was tough, but we're going to go into another one.
And this is a Spotify higher or lower game.

And this is going to be artists, monthly listeners. Love it.
This was updated in January of 2025. So January of this year.
Okay. Higher or lower on these monthly listeners.

I'm so excited for you guys to have a choice here. Some 41 in Pearl game.
Who had the higher monthly listeners

all right everybody roll your brains back six months um uh i would assume pearl jam you would assume pearl jam just based on quality of music but i will say some 41 has gone through some sort of a resurgence in the last year or so i feel like they just put out their final album they did without their drummer when did they put it out though did they put it out before january

I think around January. Yeah, maybe not.
I would still go Pearl Jam. All right, let's go Pearl.
Jam. I'll go Pearl Jam as well, Gavin.
What do you think? Sure, Pearl Jam, 14 million.

Oh, some 41 with nine. So we got Pearl Jam going up against Rich the Kid.
Gavin, what do you think about Rich the Kid and his success alongside Pearl Jam?

Never heard of Rich the Kid, so I assume much more successful than Pearl Jam. Yeah, but what about the China Factor with Rich the Kid? I don't know how the China Factor works with music.
I'm not sure.

I have no information.

Spotify in China. Anytime it is an older artist against an an artist named The Kid, I'm always going to go The Kid.
We going with the Kid?

Yeah, my line of thinking as well is this is somebody who is clearly young that I have never heard of. So

they must be massive. All right.
All right. Rich the Kid going up against Pearl James, 14 million monthly listens.
Rich the Kid, 5 million.

Boys are sunk. We suck.
Yeah, we're sucking. Can we win again?

Can we do that one again?

You want to do that one one more time? Yeah, let's do that one more time. It's no problem.
Cardi B against Charlie. Oh my goodness.
Now remember,

remember, this is Jamie right against Charlie XCX.

Post-press summer, right?

Yeah, but still probably riding a little bit high off fresh. I'm sure.

Yeah.

Yeah. Pretty close.

32 million. Yeah.
32 million for Charlie XTX. Oh, no.
Against Kaigo. What do you think? Keego? Kaigo? Kaigo.

Keego. It looks like EDM, not my wheelhouse.
I'm going to stick with Charlie XCX because I don't want it to be him just based on his hat.

Just based on his hat? Well, it's the way he's wearing his hat and making that face just tells me I don't, I just, I would rather Herbie have the success.

He does have a Billy the Bass look in that photo.

Tough, tough. Uh, um, yeah, Charlie, okay, Charlie, and Gavin, what do you think? Are you still celebrating a Brat Summer at this point? I think so.
Yeah, okay.

He looks like a bully's sidekick in the 90s. Oh, I can see it with the hat.
Yeah, he looks like the guy from Clerks.

He does Randall Randall.

He does.

Wow. Look at that.

Neck to neck. 31 million.

But now here's 31 million against Caliuchis. I mean, we do Kaigo all the way.
I'm Kaigo.

Kaigo as well. 31.
Okay.

Yeah. In a world of which I don't know either, I lost.

He lost.

My Spotify is so incredibly different than this Spotify. Well, guys, I know that that one's tough.
We can do it one more time, but I have another one locked and loaded.

If you're not feeling the Spotify one, I know it's. Let's do another one.
I think we know.

You want a different one? Yeah.

Shield your eyes.

Shield your eyes because you're not going to like what we're about to see. Pause it closed.
All right. Guess which Mr.
Beast video has more views on YouTube?

A game of higher or lower video stats for Mr. Beast updated July 2024.

Guys, now which of these is going to have?

These suck. Last YouTuber to leave wins $100,000 challenge or I built Willy Wonka's chocolate factory Gavin China Factor which one? Oh man.
I'm trying to think if I've ever seen one of these videos

Also, who are all those YouTubers? What do you mean? They're well one of them has a hundred thousand dollars. Okay, so you know I feel like the ones with money in the title might do better uh-huh.

Yeah, but I've also never seen any of these.

Uh-huh.

I'm going off of the one that uses an established brand already. Oh, smart.
Very smart. Jeff, any thoughts? His face is going to be bigger on that thumbnail.

I will say also,

yeah, there's got to be broader reach. The funnel's got to be bigger for a Wonka video than, although Gavin's right about money.
Putting money in a title is a big deal.

I would argue that that's probably most of the reason that dude is successful to begin with. Got to make a choice here.
Which one has more views? Andrew says Wonka. Oh, fuck.
I'll say Wonka.

It's two for Wonka. Gavin.
Gavin, do you still think it's the YouTube one or do you think it might be Wonka? I wonk it up. Okay.
Well, Wonka.

308 million. 103 million.
Not even close. So now it's the 308 million of I Built Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory 2, donating $100,000 to random streamers.

Knowing that that guy does essentially the same thing we used to do and he gets 308 million views a video makes me just so you guys are aware when we're done recording. I'm gonna kill myself.

I'm gonna go.

I mean, that's I might not make the stream later today. I mean, that's fine.
As long as maybe we get the high score on the Mr. Beast YouTube video count videos, then I think that's fine, man.

This is this is gonna, we and also take a picture like Mr. Beast, and this can be the thumbnail of you to do.

Yeah, I gotta live long enough to Photoshop myself into that thumbnail. Okay.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Sorry, man.
You're going to have to keep it going.

Now, 308 million, tough to beat, but donating $100,000 to random streamers. Do those streamers drive a lot of traffic to Mr.
Beast? Who knows?

What are you guys thinking? What's more popular? Chocolate or tits? Oh, they got to be neck and neck, man.

Gavin has a good point. I'm sticking with Wonka, I think.
Because he was doing, he does a chocolate thing, right? So, like, this problem is tied to that, and then that's a shareable thing.

And he, 300 million views is just

a huge mountain to overcome. I mean, not for Beast.

Like, this video could do 250 million views, and it would be, you know, it's an insane amount, but it'd still be almost 60 million views under that one. I'm going to stay with Wonka.

He's in the thumbnail. I'm going to stay.
I think Wonka. Sure.
Yeah, Wonka. It is.
308 million.

Oh, see, only 63. Wow, only 63.
What a bomb failure. Can a glowing 1,000-degree sword slice a car in half?

Does that have more or less than the 63 million? And that sounds like old Mr. Beast to me.
I think that has less. That seems like a 20 million view video.

That is

what a

we are dealing in such insane numbers now.

I know.

I know.

I mean, he's not neither thumbnail, so you got to remove that from the equation. Well, we're only seeing half the thumbnail.
That's true. And that might be Mr.
Beast.

Yeah, that could be him with a beard. I don't see him with a beard.

What's his name, Jimmy? That might be him.

Jimmy Donaldson, I think. Oh, I didn't know that.
I thought his name was like Jimmy Beast.

You know, his last name was Beast? Yeah, I just never, his name is Mr. Beast.
I just, I don't know why I thought

Johnny Caviar wants to know how you know about Jimmy Beast. Who told you about Jimmy Beast? You've been talking.

I'm going to go with the $100,000 to random streamers. Okay.
Okay. Yeah.
I'll go with that. Yeah.
Jeff? Yeah.

Okay.

$63 million to $60.

Boys. You'll lose again.
You'll lose again.

But that's okay.

To round us out, we're going to do the box office one more time.

And this will be where it would take us out. The conjuring 2016.

Inside out 2015. No conversation needed.
Don't need it.

Yep. They need to conjure some more dollars.
859 million. Yeah, 322 million.
Very easy. Inside out against the greatest showman from 2017.
Very big, but inside out.

Now, I know that the greatest showman is a thing that you guys love to talk about all the time, but you have to think about the wider audience.

Did more people see the greatest showman from 2017?

Well, this is Hugh Jackman. It is.
Any overlap between Inside Out and The Greatest Showman?

Hugh Jackman isn't in

Bill Hayter isn't in either. He doesn't pop claws, but he does sing.

What if Lewis Black was the greatest showman? He's the

connector between the two.

I think the greatest showman probably made somewhere in the 400 to 500 million range globally. Okay.

So we go in Inside Out? Inside Out. Yeah, it's the Pixar Factor.
461 million for Greatest Showman. Yes, Jeff.
So now it's the Greatest Showman, 461 million against Doctor Strange from 2016.

Oh, I think Doctor Strange had to do it, right? It's definitely Doctor Strange. We're still in Prime Marvel.
We're still pulling towards the Thanos thing.

Yeah, we're still at the point where we would watch anything if it had Marvel Studios at the front. Yeah, pretty much.

Absolutely. So you guys strange.
You guys going Doctor Strange? Yep. Absolutely.
Dr. Doctor, give me the news.
I got a bad case of Doctor Strange. $677

million

against the Grink from 2018. Oh,

I gotta go to the Grinch. People are gonna go.
I gotta go to Grink.

Yeah. Tyler the Creator doing a song for it.
It's another Illumination joint. It's a holiday film.
Oh, but this isn't the Jim Carrey one. No.
No, no, no. This is 2018.

Bembidic. Wait, is this the same guy? Is it? I don't know who did the Grinch for it.
I don't know who did the Grinch in 2018. Isn't he the Grinch?

I don't know. Is he? Look up who did the voice for a Grinch 2018.
I think it's the same guy. This might be a head-to-head battle with one head.
Shit, you know what? Louis Black. Holy shit, it is.

It's been a day coming back. She was both.
Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy.
I still think it's, I still think it's the Grinch, personally. Yeah, I'm going the Grinch.
Oh, wow.

I don't even know. Yeah, sure.

All right. Well, let's see if the Grink can pull it out.

$540 million.

Oh, we got Slam Tom Cruise!

So sad looking at you. This is no chance of an Oscar with that performance.
You're going to do better next time. And look at how sad he is, boys.

Andrew, as a man who has recently seen every single Tom Cruise movie, can you name this film just by this scene? Yeah, it's Mission Possible 3. It's him in the chair.
Okay. There you go.
Oh.

Most iconic tier. Cinema.
What word is he saying here? Don't. He's saying don't because

he's going to kill. It's in the beginning.
Done. And then he shoots him in the face.
Well, he shoots her in the face. I thought he's saying no.

Well, boys, your highest score was 10. Regulation over-under.
It's a rough go.

We can end it here. We can play another round.
What are you guys feeling? I mean, I don't ever want to stop recording. What if you did a ratings one? What am I going to do? Go back to my real life?

No, thank you. Oh, go to more games.
Well, if you insist. Now, we have movie ratings.
Yeah, try it. This is movie ratings based on the IMDV movie rating stats from February of 2025.

Okay, so these are community

stats

from this year, February of this year. Now, which has the higher rating, Book of Eli or the Extraterrestrial?

We'll say people love Book of Eli, but E.T.

has to be E.T. It's got to be E.T.
I've never seen it written that way. The extraterrestrial? Just not.
It looks weird. The extraterrestrial.

It's just the, yo, man, do you guys see the extraterrestrial yet?

i don't think i've ever met somebody who didn't like book of eli but i also don't think i've ever met anybody who didn't like et i was blown away in the last half of et when it was revealed that he was blind the entire time i could not believe i think i think the ending of book of eli is so fucking goofy that it makes the rest of the movie like so like disregardable it's so dumb it's oh i've never seen it i like it it's the it's the grayest movie in the world it is dude he likes it's very gray yeah it's pretty great the desaturate everything is crazy

All right, ET is what we're picking here. 7.9 against 6.8.
Way too close. Way too close.
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The Patriot.

Now, remember, this is the Patriot from 2000. This is pre-9-11.
And also, we're rating based on the movie itself, I assume, and not the personal politics of the man whose face is on the giant poster.

It's also pre-fall of

Mel Gibson, though.

That is true. Yeah.

I still think E.T.'s got to be. Oh, it's definitely higher.
Patriot is not loved, but it is a movie that that I enjoy because it was on CBS all the time for me as a kid.

Wasn't Heath Ledger in that too? He sure is. He was.
Yeah. Interesting that the father and son of a very American pro-American movie, The Patriot, were both Australian.
Yep.

Something to think about. Are we going with the extraterrestrial? Yeah.
I think, yeah.

I don't think there's been a movie in which the villain burns everybody alive in a church that has more than a 7.9. Okay.
It's just a fact. 7.2 7.2 is so much higher than I thought.
Very close.

Now, 7.2 for the Patriot or Prisoners,

Prisoner.

All the way. Prisoners is awesome.
I've never

seen it, never heard of it. You guys have not seen Prisoners?

Oh my God. So good.
Don't even know what it is. It's Denny Bellanoux

before he did arrival, and it is phenomenal. It is a

stunning movie. It's phenomenal.
It's phenomenal. Pull down.
It's about

Hugh Jackman's child gets abducted, and they're trying to figure out what happened. It's so good.
It's so good. There's a maze inside the O.
It's prisoners. You also watch Paul Dano be mean to a dog.

2013 prisoners. Do you think it's higher than the 7.2? So much higher.
I bet it's like an 8.3. I'm going to follow Andrew.
I don't think it'll be an 8. You don't think it'll be an 8?

I think it's definitely an 8.

I think 8.3 is like supremely high for IMDB, isn't it? It is, but like, this is one of,

I think people that watch this movie consider it an all-time great. Oh, shit.
Go for it then. I'd love to see it.
Okay. Prisoners locking in.
Does it beat the 7.2 of the Patriot?

8.2.2. Wow.

Way to go, Andrew. Nailed it.
Now, now it's the 8.2 prisoners against the Irishman from 2019. I haven't seen the Irishman, but I feel like all I've heard about it is that it is disappointing.

Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's pretty much.
It's like the de-aged everyone, right? Yeah, but they still move like old people,

yes, it's brutal. Uh, I gotta go prisoners, it's definitely prisoners, yeah.
I mean, as Gavin said, an eight is a very high number on uh IMDb, so tough gonna tough to beat.

So, we're gonna go with the prisoners here. 7.8 for the Irishman, that's so much higher than I would have guessed.
The Princess Bride from 1987.

Can it beat the 7.8 of The Irishman?

I mean, how can you not like the Princess Bride? Once again, I don't know if I've ever met anybody who didn't like the Princess Bride. I mean, on paper, like,

there's no way the Irishman is more liked on IMDb than the Princess Bride, right? Like, that just isn't, that's not a thing.

Like, if we take away the 7.8 and just look at it as these two movies, it's like without question, right? The Princess Bride? How do you rate a movie on IMDb?

Do you have to create an account to do it? I think so. I bet you do.
I think so. So we're dealing with the kind of people,

just put ourselves in the mind, the kind of people who create accounts on the internet to rank film, basically only for that purpose, and to comment on film.

That's a pretty deep film junkie.

Yeah, I got to think Princess Bride. I just think that's such a wild poster that they're using the

Colombo Reading to the Kid as the movie poster.

So, what do you guys think? Princess Bride or Irishman? I think Princess Bride. If it's not, I am going to watch The Irishman tonight to evaluate this.
Okay.

Well,

7.8 is what we're trying to beat here. Princess Bride.
Eight

on the nose.

It's a high score. The spy who loved me, 1977.
Gavin, do you think that movie's higher than an eight on IMDb? I mean, it's a classic.

It's not Moore's worst.

I don't know how to measure that. Glowing endorses.

I mean, he had some stink pots. This is going to be all on you, Gavin.
But it's a cool poster. I mean, I don't think.
Does any Bond have an eight? Skyfall, probably. Maybe Casino Royale.

Yeah, maybe Casino Royale. This one certainly doesn't have an eight.
I'll tell you that. Okay.
Okay. Okay.

So we're going, we're trusting Gavin's. Yeah.
Trusting Gavin's gut and going Princess Bride, Jeff, you good with that? Yeah. I'm great with it.
Princess Bride with the eight.

Spy Who Loved Me with the seven on the nose. So, seven is what we're up against everywhere.
Oh, fuck. Everywhere, all at once.
I feel like this is easy. It's everything everybody's doing.

Absolutely. Lee since you buy us alone.
That movie, yeah. Everybody loves that movie.
It's got everything. It's got Jamie Lee Curtis.
It has the raccoon. It's got the weird fingers.

It's got it all here. It's got like apples smashing together.
Really?

Just amazing.

Two rocks made me cry.

I actually hate that part, and I fast-forward it when I see that. You fast-forwarded through those 14 frames? Uh-huh.
Yeah, I need to get through them faster. I'm doing fast mode, guys.

Well, we're going with everything everywhere all at once to beat the seven. The spy who loved me.

7.8.

7.8

against 1917 from 2019. Thoughts?

I didn't see it. It was right.
I think people really like 1917, though. That's the one with Harry Styles in it? No, that's Dunkirk.
Okay. 1917 is the one-shot one, right? Yeah, like one-shot.

In quotes, one-shot. Hard to beat 7.8.

Yeah.

Yeah, but it was, I mean, it's war, though. I feel like the war ones always score pretty high.
And it's tough to, like, have to evaluate.

how culturally everywhere, everything, everywhere all at once was. Like, I felt like I heard about that movie non-stop, but that doesn't necessarily mean it to hire an IMDb.

I just think because it's such a crazy-looking movie, less people would have seen it. Yeah,

I guess it becomes a weird thing, though, too. Of like people have to search these movies, right, to put in a ranking, yeah.

Also, you have to think, too, like you say, less people will have seen it, but the people that did see it probably would be more inclined to like it because of the visuals. So, I don't know.

Are people voting an IMDb tricked by by a fake one-shot?

Yeah. Yeah.

Probably. Probably.
I think still everything everywhere all at once probably has a higher rating. 7.8 is a tough number to beat.

When I think about it comparatively, though, I feel like the Patriot being 7.6, 1917 has to be more than 0.4 or

more than 0.4

at least. I think it's an 8.
Could be an 8. If the Patriot is 7.6,

I feel like 1917 feels like it could be above the Patriot. Do people like the Patriot way more than I realize? I don't think so.
I didn't know that The Patriot was like a well-liked movie.

I don't remember it being particularly, I remember it coming out and, you know, being a summer movie, but I don't remember doing particularly well or anything.

So, which one are we going with, Boyce?

I already said I'm going with Everything Everywhere All at once. I'm going to go 1917, so it's going to be Gavin.
Gavin, the tiebreaker.

I just, when it comes down to this, I just think, what would my parents go for? Uh-huh. Are your parents rating movies on the the MDB?

I'd go 1917. 1917 is the pick.
Jeff, you have something a lot over these guys, if it's wrong. 7.8, the number to beat.
1917,

9.2.

Good job, guys. My finger is

not on the pulse there. Now, that's not a good film, and it did not do well.
No. What?

Superman 4, the quest for peace from 1987. No.

Nuclear power in the best hands.

It is dangerous. In the hands of Lex Luther, it is pure evil.
It's the only Superman film I've never seen.

It's so bad.

I haven't seen the new one, actually. 1917.

Yeah, I'm a 1917. Okay, 1917.
Do you think this movie is above a six? No.

No, I'll agree with that.

3.7.

That is so bad. Oh,

Superman 4, The Quest for Peace versus Justice League League 2017. I think Justice League.
3.7. 3.7 is pretty fucking low.

That is absurdly low. I don't think Justice League was that low.
Although, no, it's not that low. I'm not going to overthink it.
I bet it's like a 4.8 or something. That sounds right.

Yeah, I was going to say, do you think Justice League, which I assume you guys are picking, do you think it cracks a five? No.

I think 4.8 to 5.2 is the range I would put it in. And we're talking the Just Weeden win.

Yeah, I guess we are. I can't tell from this, but 2017, I would think so.
It has colors, so I think it is the. Yeah.
Yeah.

Okay. We locking it in? Yeah.

Justice League 2017, six. Yes.
Wow. There you go.
There you go. Rush.
Oh, people love Rush. 2013.
People love Rush. People love Rush.
People love Rush. Well, it's got to do better than six.

You know, people? They love Rush. They do.
It is like the definitive Ron Howard movie, I feel like, in the sense of like nobody really cares or have seen it.

Like, it doesn't shake anything, but the people that do go, oh, it was pretty good. It's fine.

That is every Ron Howard film.

Rush, you think it beats the six of Justice League? That's what we're going with.

I do, yeah. Okay.
I think people really love it. Rush, 2013.
8.1. People love Rush.

Eight is a high score.

Now You See Me Too from 2016. The people that don't vote on IMDb ratings love Now You See Me Too, but this is IMDB ratings, so it's Rush.

Yeah. Gavin, any thoughts on Now You See Me Too? Now, if they would have brought back Isla Fisher, sorry to cut you off, Gavin, but I mean, no, Isla Fisher? Come on.

I mean, Now You See Me 2 probably doesn't have Clint Howard in it. That's true.

If we're talking box office, Now You See Me 2, definite winning the China Factor. Right.

China Factor.

8.1 of Rush. Now You See Me 2,

6.4. That feels right.
Then Now You See Me 2, 2 6.4 against the island from 2005. Oh, fuck.
People didn't like the island. Is that the Michael Bay movie? Yeah.
Yeah.

Where he used the same footage in Transformers. Yeah.
It's where like you and McGregor and Scarlett Johansson find out they're clones and they escape the clone facility. Yeah.

I'd go now you see me too. 6.4 is the island.
You think the island is lower than 6.4. It's good.
I do. It's.
Yeah.

Really? Ooh. I don't know.

I hate the A in that poster for the island. Like a mountain?

It just bothers me. Well,

are we picking Now You See Me Too? Is that the choice? Because the movie's not about mountains. Mountains have nothing to do with it, and all the other letters don't have like a funny font thing.

It's only the A. It's very bothersome.
Get it out of my face. It's Now You See Me Too.
I think I've heard of the other one more.

What does that mean?

Linga sounds like she's picking the island.

I just feel like the island is like a michael bay movie i what once again in the context of what we're rating what does that mean

i think i think potentially more stupid people would have seen the island and liked it but the stupid people have to make the imdb account the vote yeah but a sequel you think a sequel's higher i think 6.4 is higher okay I think I would struggle more with this if there wasn't a number on Now You See Me Do.

Yeah, The Island 2 would definitely be lower, but it's neck and neck here.

Jeff, what do you think? Ah, fuck.

I think it's going to be close.

6.4 is

going to be

hard to beat for what that movie is. So you're the deciding vote.
I think I'm going to go.

He doesn't want to be the deciding vote. I don't want to.

I've avoided being the deciding vote every time until this moment.

I'm going to go with Now You See Me Too. Now You See Me Too, 6.4, The Island from 2005.

6.0.

We're out at 12, boys. 12 is not bad.
12 is not bad. And that's an IMT rating.
That's a subjective thing. That's a tough, that's a tough go.
Yeah. That's a real tough go.

You have to get into the mind of the people that are doing the rating. Yeah, that's true.
I just don't want to be there.

What?

What? I got to watch the Patriot.

It's better than the island. And now you see me too.
Yeah. There you have it.
Well, guys, this has been Regulation Over Under. Thank you so much for playing.
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Check out the first episode of this show. Who would have thought that we would have done two? But here we are.
I love it. I have so much fun doing this.
Great game.

Andrew, Gavin, Jeff, thank you so much for playing along. How do you guys feel about your scores? I think we came back in the end.
I'm really happy with how we finished this. 12 is a great number.

We have a new bar to pass next time. I think I leaned heavily on the much younger and more

in tune to society, Andrew and Gavin.

I think they are responsible for the majority of our success. I will say, every time there was a split, Gavin was right.
I think we got to lean even heavier on Gavin next time. Wow.
Oh, interesting.

We're learning. Well, I was wrong about transformance.
Okay. Well,

we're all wrong, though, I guess, about that. I don't know.
I'm giving you credit.

Take the credit. There you go.
Well, guys, thanks for listening, and we will see you next time. Bye.
Bye.