"Rashida Jones"

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Speaker 1 So welcome to Smartlist, everybody. I hope you have a full charge on your iPod.
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Sorry. What are the ages of X?

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Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Will.

Speaker 1 Yes. Well, Will.
Today's Will's guest. It is.
Yeah. It is.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling about your guest today, Will? I'm feeling very good about my guest. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, because, I mean, I don't want to get into it too quickly, but because it's somebody that we all know.

Speaker 1 So you'd think I would have a preference as to, you know, either your guests or Sean's guests by now. Like

Speaker 1 who ends up

Speaker 1 hosting.

Speaker 1 better guests.

Speaker 1 Do you guys have a preference? Like, I think it's pretty random, right? Like, who. A lot of times we bring people on that that we all know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then sometimes it's, it's, a lot of times it's people

Speaker 1 none of us know. And sometimes we.
And sometimes it's in the middle. And sometimes it's right in the middle.
And so fascinating.

Speaker 1 But like, and sometimes we reach out to guests and then sometimes guests reach out to us. And it's just, it's just, it's just, it's a great blend, you guys.

Speaker 1 I got to listen to this show. I'm just pointing it out.
This show seems great.

Speaker 1 Jason, it was good to see you last night. We all had dinner last night, and we haven't seen you in so long.
Yeah. I know.
It was so nice to see you and the dinner was super fun and everybody was funny

Speaker 1 all night yeah i know i laughed real hard last night and then um i told you i'm you know i'm real sweet on that tig dotaro she's great she's she's so funny i just love her hysterical hysterical um i told will this a couple weeks ago jason i finally saw the godfather oh boy yeah Sean says to me the other day.

Speaker 1 And it was really good. He goes, hey, was it good?

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 1 We watched The Godfather the other night. It's really good.

Speaker 1 And I said, oh, did you think everybody was lying?

Speaker 1 And then I just watched that part two like two days ago, three days ago. No, they say that part two is better than the first.
I don't remember having a feeling either way. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're different, but they're both excellent. Part two, the Godfather 2 is excellent as well.
Yeah, I kind of had to pause every 10 minutes and be like, Scotty, who's that? Who's that? Who's that?

Speaker 1 There's so many characters. Oh, you're one of those.

Speaker 1 Remind me never to watch a movie with you. Okay,

Speaker 1 and then number three gets a bad rap, but I don't remember like watching number three and going, this is terrible.

Speaker 1 I think he got a bad rap at the time, and then now people have, as they look back, they go, like, they've had a different, yeah. I just,

Speaker 1 I, Scotty just said Coppola went back in and recut it recently, like in the last five years or so. Oh, really? Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true. Yeah, three and a half.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyway, so check it out if you haven't seen it. Hey, yeah, if you haven't seen any of the Godfather films.
Fakunga's Smartless hot takes on Newfoundland.

Speaker 1 It's like the time jason came up to me and said uh hey you know what i watch you know what's really blues brothers is a really good movie yeah

Speaker 1 the 1980 film

Speaker 1 i know there's so i said was uh uh a band uh was humming like the flash dance song the other day and i go you know never seen it she goes oh you're such a loser i really am there's so many remember last night we were talking about at close range which is a good movie i want to go back haven't seen it i haven't seen it i need to see it who's in that uh sean Penn and Chris Watkin.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. I want to see that.
Yeah, let's see. I never saw Flash Dance.
You didn't? No.

Speaker 1 No, that surprised me. What about Ghost? I love Ghost.
Sean, I'm surprised you haven't seen Flash Dance. I know me too, because I dance.
Because you like dancing.

Speaker 1 And you're flashy. Yeah,

Speaker 1 all right. This is enough of the fucking Regis Kathy Lee chatter.
Let's see. What are you talking about? This is the fun part.

Speaker 1 And so is the guest part. But this is fun too.
You know, but I always feel bad for the guests. They got to sit there and listen to the patter.
All right, fine. Well, everybody's got busy lives, too.

Speaker 1 They're probably, you know, sending emails and texts and stuff. And you think your guest is sending emails and stuff? Well, I know that our, I'll put it this way, okay? This is a great segue.

Speaker 1 Our guest

Speaker 1 is a very, very busy person.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because

Speaker 1 in addition to being a very sought-after

Speaker 1 actress,

Speaker 1 she's also a very sought-after writer and producer. Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 She has written and produced Emmy-nominated stuff. She's produced and written big, huge animated films like, I don't know, Toy Story 4.
Sean.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 she's acted in, and she's written a new series that she's got coming out.

Speaker 1 Her new series is called, I think it's called Sunny. Yeah.
Oh, it's called Sunny. It's the worst fucking intro I've ever heard.
No, because I'm...

Speaker 1 Don't take a little time to write something down when you're talking about it. No, because I'm trying to disguise who it is.

Speaker 1 I'm doing a great idea.

Speaker 1 Because as soon as I say what you know her from, you're going to know who it is because you know her really well because you know her also very well from things like The Office and Parks and Rec and Boston Public.

Speaker 1 No, it's Rashida Jaris. Rashida!

Speaker 1 Rashida, did you know you were coming out when I saw you last week?

Speaker 2 Two weeks ago? I did. Oh, yeah.
And I don't listen to your show, so I didn't know it was a surprise. I'm really glad I didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 It's happened so many times. I don't even know why we continue the whole structure anyway.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Look at

Speaker 1 the pink headphones.

Speaker 1 Listener, she's got some real headphones.

Speaker 2 My dad's JBL.

Speaker 1 Really? Q. He rocks a pink headphone.

Speaker 2 No, this is like his.

Speaker 1 Oh, his mine.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? What's it called? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's JBL, but it's like his, it's like the Q.

Speaker 1 We'll have to do some personal experience if you want to send some of those our way. Yeah, you got it.
By the way, for my sister,

Speaker 1 go ahead. For my sister, Tracy, your dad is Quincy Jones.
Please continue. Okay.
Okay. Please continue.

Speaker 2 Yes, Tracy.

Speaker 1 That's also, if you're not a listener of the

Speaker 1 re-referenced Tracy.

Speaker 1 It's sort of a catch-all for those less informed. But there's no shot at Tracy herself.
No. No.
She's a very

Speaker 1 bright, sharp, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 She's representing the people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. She's representing the people.
She's happy to to do it. Rashida, welcome to Smartlist.
Where are we finding you in this great booth of yours?

Speaker 2 I'm in my husband's studio.

Speaker 1 That's a question mark. What does husband do?

Speaker 1 Why is such a personality? He's a musician.

Speaker 2 He has a radio show, not a podcast, a radio show.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 2 But also a musician.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, Jason,

Speaker 1 do you honestly not know who her

Speaker 1 husband is?

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 You know how

Speaker 1 I am. I barely know what day it is.

Speaker 1 I've embarrassed myself hourly. You're kidding.
On my kid's life, I have no idea who her husband is. Her husband, Ezra, is singer, songwriter, extraordinaire.

Speaker 1 Have you ever heard of a band called Vampire Weekend? Oh, no way. Yes.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that either.

Speaker 2 We've both met him.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 He didn't give you his bio.

Speaker 1 He didn't lead with that.

Speaker 1 It's like when people come up to you and they go, Oh, you're an actor. What are you in?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Do you want me to start looking at you? Well, by the way, still to this day, I assume nobody knows who I am.
Nobody knows what I'm.

Speaker 1 People look at me funny, and I'm like, Yeah, I know. I look like that guy you went to school with.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 At this point, really? Come on. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Well, you know why? Because I spent so many years assuming everybody knew who I was, and then I had a very uncomfortable adjustment.
You guys curly. I will never make that mistake again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows you're Justin Bateman. They know.

Speaker 1 See, that's exactly right. I get that once a day, Kevin.
Justin Bateman and big fan.

Speaker 1 Not that big. Not that big.

Speaker 1 That's tough. Rashida.
You can see it. So good to see you.

Speaker 1 Tell me what you're doing like today and what's going on. You know how much I love you.

Speaker 2 I love you. I love you.
What am I doing today? This, I'm doing this.

Speaker 2 I'm, I don't, what am I doing today? I'm like prepping for the summer.

Speaker 1 How does one prep for the summer? Cleaning the pool,

Speaker 1 got a lot of reds. vegetables, and

Speaker 1 no, just like packing a tanning booth, of course.

Speaker 2 Just a lot of... Well, I'm doing some press for the show

Speaker 2 that Will mentioned, Sonny. I didn't write it.
I'm in it. I'm in it.

Speaker 2 I wasn't sure you wrote it.

Speaker 1 But you produced it. And you produced it.
Which is a really cool. The premise is your character moves to Japan, lives in Japan, and her husband dies.

Speaker 2 Missing, but they were on a plane crash.

Speaker 1 They're missing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 and they the company sends his company sends you a new personal robot yes called in the future in the future yeah it's in the future I had three callbacks for that robot did you yeah they said you know what they said you know what the note was too robotic too robotic

Speaker 1 easy way I t it up for you Willie

Speaker 1 well wait hang on now Rashida you wrote yourself something that you that puts you in Japan a little bit

Speaker 2 I didn't write it you guys let's be very i didn't write it i produced it but yes i put myself in japan yes i lived in japan

Speaker 2 it was really great i know it was really great

Speaker 1 have you been before japan i had been it's the best i had been there like three or four times for a couple weeks but i was there for six months wow wow well now uh kyoto to uh tokyo osaka kyoto and tokyo we filmed in both yeah wow so do you have it do you have because i hear if you go over there you got to have it wired Like, it's, it's a, it's a place you need to like, like, have a chaperone or like very good notes or tips, or

Speaker 1 you can get lost there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you, you can, but even getting lost is fun there. It doesn't really matter.
There's no bad version of it.

Speaker 2 But yes, I was like dialed in because I had like the most amazing PA and like people who really knew the cities. And so, like, I just went to the best, coolest restaurants, gardens, temples, once.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, Rashida, you know,

Speaker 1 I loved Silo so much. I told you when I saw you, and I was like,

Speaker 1 oh my God, Rashida's in this show that I heard so much about, that I love so much. And then you've died in the first fucking episode.
That's

Speaker 1 like spoiler.

Speaker 2 That's how I do it. That's how I do it.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, what? Did that bum you out? Because that's every.

Speaker 2 No, that's why I took the job.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 You know, it's fun.

Speaker 2 It's fun to, it's fun to make people like you and then die.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, if you guys guys haven't seen Silo, it's so good.
It's like James Dean.

Speaker 2 Damn, dude.

Speaker 1 Don't waste it.

Speaker 2 It's not even 11.

Speaker 1 Guess how old he was. Hang on a second.
By the way,

Speaker 1 by the way, he went. Oh, not too soon, by the way.
There's no fucking way that's going to happen. Willie, guess how old he was when he died?

Speaker 1 23? Yeah. Was he? That's so crazy.
Isn't that amazing that he was never older than 23? Like, I looked at him. I always tell you he was like, you know, like, yeah, that's a man.

Speaker 1 I just watched The Giant with him and Rock Hudson and Liz Taylor. Just giant.
Just giant. Just giant.
Just giant, giant. More hot ticks.
Giant.

Speaker 2 Tracy, it's just giant.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How was that? Was that

Speaker 1 part of the... Hey, you know what's a great movie? Gone with the wind.
You guys seen that?

Speaker 1 And nothing's really gone. Nothing leaves.

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a fire, but you know, it's got leaves. It's a fire.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. It was really long, but it was good.
I didn't know it was based on Dallas was based on it. The show Dallas was based on Giant.
Oh, yeah? Anyway, let's continue. Yeah, James Steen.

Speaker 1 I think this is one of his last movies, or his last movie. Wait a second.
Hang on a second. This is like.
Yeah, Rashida, you're like a one-man Reddit thread. You're like,

Speaker 1 and you're like, what am I doing? Why am I clicking? But is that a known fact or is that a weird Reddit thing that Dallas was based on? No, the guy's name is JR. I mean, his initials are JR.

Speaker 1 And Giant, he's an oil king, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
You're sure? 100% positive. Oh, that's.
Okay. And then what Knott's Landing was based on?

Speaker 1 I'd love it if Scotty just slid in on a rolling stool. Well, that's based on.

Speaker 1 Just for what it's worth, A Place in the Sun with Montgomery Clift is an amazing movie.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I just saw food directly.

Speaker 1 Let's get to the guests. Will, would you request for your guest? Yeah, yeah.
Would you back off? Come on, this attitude is so shit. Go eat something for fuck's sake and then come back at me.

Speaker 1 You had too much opening

Speaker 1 problem.

Speaker 1 Jason pulled up his shirt last night and I saw his abs. Crazy abs.

Speaker 1 Really? It's

Speaker 1 a leaky three-pack. Like summer abs.
But not by choice, just from diet. No.
Yeah. Well, I'm not sure.
There's just no sugar.

Speaker 2 There's no sugar. Dairy.

Speaker 1 No food. There's no dinner.
There's no food. There's no dinner.
No sugar, no dinner. That's the case.

Speaker 2 Intermittent fasting. That's what you do?

Speaker 1 It's unintentional, but it's

Speaker 1 like eating. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's it. Wow.
Are you hungry all the time?

Speaker 2 Are you hungry and grumpy all the time? No,

Speaker 1 you get past it. You know what? You got to race to

Speaker 1 get to sleep.

Speaker 2 You got to get to bed.

Speaker 1 You got to get to sleep. He thinks it's it's discipline oh it is definitely discipline it's mental illness bro at this point

Speaker 1 people have different words for different things you know so wait so rashida i want to talk to you a little bit about so your your experience everybody knows you from the office and from parks and rec and then and but everybody knew you as this actress and you were kind of working in comedy and tv and then you started

Speaker 1 You and I want to say that you and I don't know how long you knew Will McCormick for, but you guys teamed up, you started writing, and you just started writing all your own stuff.

Speaker 1 Like you kind of made this shift at a certain point. Was that like a conscious decision? You're like, I've always had all these ideas, and I'm sick of doing other people's stuff.

Speaker 1 I just want to do my own shit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I always wanted to be a writer, but I didn't feel like I was good enough or anointed to be that kind of person.

Speaker 2 I think probably could like went to school with a lot of people who ended up writing for television, Harvard, or

Speaker 2 they were all like like in the lampoon and they were like funny and and the guys who were gonna get the jobs and stuff. So I never felt like that.
So I didn't feel worthy

Speaker 2 like pursuing that. And then a strike happened.

Speaker 1 Did you know Schur? Did you know Mike Schur at Harvard? Yeah. Mike Schur is the one who created Parks and Red.

Speaker 2 We met Freshman Year. We did a play together Freshman Year called Love, Sex and the IRS.

Speaker 1 Love, Sex, and the IRS.

Speaker 2 Wait, was it? It opened with us making up.

Speaker 1 Was he

Speaker 1 acting?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How was he? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Funny. I'll bet he's great.
Yeah, he was funny. He was great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I bet he is. Really good.
Yeah. Mike Schur, yeah, for Tracy, Mike Schur started SNL and he was headwriter of Weekend Update.

Speaker 1 And then he went to the office and then he went with Greg Daniels and they created Parson Rec. And then he went on to do Brooklyn 99 and The Good Place and tons of other stuff.

Speaker 1 He's a brilliant writer. And you guys have a long relationship.
I feel like

Speaker 1 I kind of know Schur through SNL, but also kind of through you because you guys were friends.

Speaker 2 Yeah, since we were 18.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wow.
amazing.

Speaker 2 We wrote a paper together in college, by the way. How stupid is that? We've convinced our teacher that we should write a paper together for

Speaker 1 the class, the Warren Court.

Speaker 1 What is that? About the Warren Commission?

Speaker 2 About the Supreme Court Justice Warren.

Speaker 1 Aha. Wow.

Speaker 1 I'd love to read your paper. It sounds hilarious.
It sounds really funny.

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Speaker 1 Now, wait, so

Speaker 1 get me back to the writing part of it.

Speaker 1 What gave you kind of the fuel to like say, well, you know what? Maybe I can or maybe I should.

Speaker 1 Was it with, did it come from just getting more and more proud of your writing, or were you reading more and more things that were not great that were getting produced?

Speaker 1 And you were like, I can do at least that.

Speaker 2 I think it was that.

Speaker 2 i think you just read so much when you're auditioning and even if you're not getting jobs you just see the kind of landscape of what people are writing and obviously there was good good stuff but i was kind of inspired by that moment in time that like the the peak judd appetow where like all those dudes were just like just writing themselves you know and i thought i could at least do that right even if it's not as good or as funny i i could find some audience and i also had this feeling that like i nobody would ever cast me as a certain kind of thing.

Speaker 2 And if I'm going to be, if I'm going to get that part, I probably have to write it for myself. You know what?

Speaker 1 It's so funny. When I was living in Chicago, I would watch certain channels that no longer exist.
And on those channels were shows that no longer exist and they weren't really great.

Speaker 1 And I was really young. And I was like, if I, I know I can be at least that bad.
Like if that's all that's required, there's got to be some job for me somewhere. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Because that's not, they're not fantastic. Right.

Speaker 2 Anyway, I'm not, I wasn't saying that about, no, I was, I'm not saying that about that. But you know what I mean? Like, I saw the entire spectrum and I thought there's somewhere I can land.

Speaker 2 And of course, I had lofty dreams because I grew up on Jim Brooks and Nora Efron. And those were the kinds of moods I wanted to be in and I wanted to write.
So, and I think Having Bill

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 2 holding each other's hands through the process, like we literally sat side side and wrote our first script together. And I feel like that.

Speaker 1 How did that relationship start? How did you guys?

Speaker 2 we were set up we were set up by his sister mary mccormick you must have known love yeah

Speaker 2 i did a movie in the 90s indie movie with mary and i was obsessed with her she was like the coolest funniest person i'd ever met yeah she was like you you should go with my brother he's you guys are soulmates And she's not wrong.

Speaker 2 It didn't work out. We did date for three weeks.
It didn't work out. But he kind of is my like work soulmate, you know? We still work together.

Speaker 1 So are you guys, so you guys still work together, you and Will? Yeah.

Speaker 2 We produce and we write together.

Speaker 1 Awesome. I love Will.
He's such a good dude and Mary is so amazing.

Speaker 1 So you guys start, so you guys kind of have this, you realize you date, but it's not working out, but you realize that there is something else there on another, maybe potentially even deeper level

Speaker 1 that you connect on. And what was the first thing that you guys were like, hey, we need to write this? Like, how did that happen?

Speaker 2 We started writing, oh, it's so weird. No, we started writing a show in New York.
I mean, we were just drunk.

Speaker 2 It's not even worth mentioning.

Speaker 2 The only thing we completed was Celeste and Jesse Forever. It was the first movie that we completed, wrote to in its entirety and went out with.

Speaker 1 Did you get, were you tempted to write about your relationship and how it was?

Speaker 2 Well, we kind of, kind of, yeah. It kind of was that a little bit of it.

Speaker 2 It was like an amalgam of the first kind of love that we had, our own separate loves, plus our dynamic as like a kind of somewhere in the middle of romantic and best friend chip.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just made me think of, sorry to bounce around. One of my favorite movies is Social Network.
Was there any,

Speaker 1 your participation in that and having gone to Harvard, was there any,

Speaker 1 was any of that happening while you were, while you were there at that time?

Speaker 2 No, bro. No.
I'm old.

Speaker 1 No. So it was after you left?

Speaker 1 That was like 2004.

Speaker 2 We had, we had the Facebook, which was the freshman Facebook,

Speaker 2 which is what the name is based on. And And so you'd get to school and you'd have a pick, everybody would pick their head shots, you know, like a yearbook.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like a yearbook, but you, you submit your picture.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, was it digital or was it a hard copy? Hard copy.

Speaker 2 Digital, we had, we had Ethernet my senior year.

Speaker 1 There was no internet. Right.
Yeah. We're about the same age, right? No, you're younger than we are.
I'm younger than you. Oh, yeah.
Come on. Look at her.
Jason, you're the oldest one here.

Speaker 1 I know. My father.
How old are you? 55. Look at his face.
Wow.

Speaker 2 You're 55?

Speaker 1 That's amazing. Yeah.
So there's some gray in my beard.

Speaker 2 Somewhere under that beard, you do look great.

Speaker 1 Look great.

Speaker 2 Just a lot of beard.

Speaker 1 But I see it. Hell of a back end color.
I'm playing a loser.

Speaker 2 So, you know. Oh, you are? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, in the movie. Oh, in the movie.
In real life.

Speaker 1 My wife and I like role-playing. And so this month she's got me as a loser.
This month.

Speaker 1 Hey, growing up around so much music, I'm sure,

Speaker 1 there's constantly music in your house, I'm sure, right? Yeah. When you were a kid.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 were you ever inspired to do that? Like, was your whole family like, wait, don't you want to come over here and do what we're doing?

Speaker 1 We're playing, we're playing instruments, we're singing songs, we're producing records.

Speaker 2 I love it so much. And I kind of like sing for fun.
I've written for fun and I've sung, like I've sung back up on some albums and things like that.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I sang back up on the first two Maroon fives.

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 2 And I sang for them live. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's so cool. That's so good.
Wait, can you read music? Can you write music?

Speaker 2 I can write.

Speaker 2 My reading is limited, but my dad's a musical genius. That's like the last thing I want to do.

Speaker 1 It's like try my hand at that. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 You know, but I love it. Like I have a deep ache for music and I just don't ever feel like I'm good enough to do it.
Like I'll never be good enough to do it. So

Speaker 1 again, like I want to remind people, like your dad produced Thriller. yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
So, like, that's so, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 I remember one time, uh, Rashida going over to your dad's house with you and being blown away and going downstairs and seeing, you know, when you go into somebody's office, guys, and you see, like, they got like a record, right?

Speaker 1 Like a platinum record or whatever, like some, some, whatever.

Speaker 1 And you go into Quincy's house and, well, it is, A, it's a museum, and B, the framed thing for Thriller has like 40 platinum records in the frame. Yeah, literally 40.
You're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 It's like the granddaddy of them all.

Speaker 1 What about that documentary you did was just so awesome. Oh, yes.
That was so funny. Yeah, so I was going to talk about it.
So let's get to the documentary about your dad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's what a great thing to do for your, for your, I mean, for your parents. It's just like, I don't know.
That was.

Speaker 1 So, well, I was going to say, so, so, I mean, obviously, we, you know, yeah, like Jason said, it's a great thing to do and to be able to do with your dad, but, but also, like, what was, do you remember the moment where you're like

Speaker 1 how that, the sort of the genesis of that? What was the moment?

Speaker 2 I'm not going to take any credit. I, I, my dad is so well documented.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like he had it. There was a doc series on BBC.
There was a documentary about him in the 80s.

Speaker 2 And I was with Jane Rosenthal.

Speaker 1 You know, Jane. Yeah.
The great Jane Rosenthal.

Speaker 2 Who's a legend? And she worked for my dad years ago, like 30 years ago. Oh, wow.
And she said to me, you have to make,

Speaker 2 you have to make a documentary about your dad.

Speaker 1 And I was like, oh, fuck, I do. I do, don't I?

Speaker 2 I didn't want to, but she was right. Because the truth is, he's so well documented.
He's so accomplished that it's almost impossible to spend any time storytelling about who he is as a person

Speaker 2 to cover so much ground with just what he's like, like contributed to the world and culture. I wanted to do something that felt like it captured his personality because nothing ever has.

Speaker 2 And so that was kind of the goal.

Speaker 2 And then Al Hicks, who I love, by the way, have you, if you've never seen, he made a documentary called Keep On, Keepin' On, which is about Clark Terry, who's my dad, who's my dad's mentor,

Speaker 2 hornplayer. And his last mentee, who is, who's this incredible jazz pianist? He's blind, Justin Coughlin.
It's like about their relationship. It's like, if you're ready to cry,

Speaker 2 that's what you turn on.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. It's like waterworks.
It's so fun. Keep on keeping on.

Speaker 2 Keep on keeping on. So Hicks, he directed that.

Speaker 2 We met on my first day of filming in montreau in switzerland at the jazz festival i had like a 5d camera i was like trying to figure out what to do how to do it and we met that day and then i asked him to co-direct with me wow that's great yeah and i mean just the the accent so yeah all that archival footage that people have already seen about your dad No one's seen you just walking around with the camera in the house and talking to your dad.

Speaker 1 That was really cool. Access, it was just, it just felt so privileged watching it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It felt, it felt intimate and too intimate, in fact, because there was a whole scene where, I mean, he almost died while we were filming.

Speaker 2 We stopped filming, and luckily, my brother was like filming a bunch of stuff in the hospital, like show my dad, because he

Speaker 2 went into diabetic coma. And, you know,

Speaker 2 luckily, the conclusion of the story was such that we could put it in, and it felt like the real triumph through that because my dad is a beast and he has cheated death many times, 91, still crushing it.

Speaker 1 So that's amazing. Yeah, you know, You know what's what

Speaker 1 was fascinating to me watching that was seeing you in the document because you told me, like, you have to check out this documentary. I ran home and watched it.
And there's my friend Rashida Jones.

Speaker 1 And I'm watching Rashida Jones interview her dad,

Speaker 1 who's Quincy Jones. And I had this weird thing.
We're like,

Speaker 1 wait, they're related? Which is a compliment because

Speaker 1 you've made such a world for yourself, separate from his huge world and you've both become hugely successful that it was it was wild just to see wow that you both yeah well well it's true rashidia and that was also something i wanted to get to which is like it's not easy i can imagine i can only imagine how uh to

Speaker 1 And it's not by anybody's fault or design that you have a dad who is larger than life, who is, you know, like, as you said, a musical genius. Everybody knows.
He's created incredible things.

Speaker 1 He's done amazing things. And to grow up with that,

Speaker 1 I can only imagine there's a lot that

Speaker 1 to create your own thing and to have your own incredible success. Very

Speaker 1 real testament to your talent. And I hope you recognize that.
Yeah, to have the courage to even try. And then you nailed it.
And now people are like, wait, she has a famous dad?

Speaker 1 You know, it's like you've already got your own thing. It's Janet and Michael.

Speaker 1 Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson. I never think of them in the same family.
Oh,

Speaker 2 his mother, Janet.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No, but like Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson are in the same family. But when I see them, I'm like, I don't think of the other one.
Right.

Speaker 1 That's not a great analogy. Also, it's too close.
It's too close with Michael and stuff.

Speaker 1 All right, sorry, sorry. No, I mean, we would cut it, but we want to shame you, so we're going to leave it in.

Speaker 1 We might open the episode with it. Yeah, yeah.
Have you seen The Godfather? Just kidding.

Speaker 2 No, I heard you guys talking about that. And we actually did, we watched it recently too.
We watched all three. And

Speaker 2 great films. Great films.
I don't know if anybody knows, but really great films. And three,

Speaker 2 great film. I don't know if I think we watched the edited version, but I watched it because I hadn't seen it since I know Sophia so well.
And like just seeing like baby Sophia

Speaker 1 in that movie.

Speaker 1 First on screen, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 You know what's crazy about three, you guys? It's about, it's about

Speaker 2 first cousins in love.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I just started watching it.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 that's not the central conflict of the movie.

Speaker 1 It's a righteous story. Well, so you mentioned Sophia Copla.
So you made a film with Sophia,

Speaker 1 I want to say five, four, five years ago, right, On the Rocks?

Speaker 2 Yeah, 2020. Well, it came out during lockdown.
So, yeah, 2020.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about. I've blacked that part out of my brain.

Speaker 1 Yes, we all have. I don't know what you mean.

Speaker 1 So you, and you, right?

Speaker 1 So you made this film on the rocks in 2020 with sophia copla and bill murray yeah and you got a lot of great reviews uh for that performance i mean everybody loved it and and i i'm did you know sophia before or was that where you guys kind of got to know each other we had met we had met i was in an act i was like an out-of-work actor in an acting class in new york and she came to the class to workshop lost in translation

Speaker 2 what and so i played the like main part

Speaker 1 for a month with her. No, wait, wait.
Walk me through that, that idea. What is that?

Speaker 2 So she works. So I work with my acting coach, Greta, works a lot with Francis and Sophia.
And they do like dream work

Speaker 2 around, you know,

Speaker 2 character, character dream work.

Speaker 2 And so she kind of came to explore and enrich like the characters in the film. And so I was like assigned.
to the lead part, to the Scarlet Johansson part.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, I had to do like dream assignments and come in and like, you know, embarrass myself by acting out my dreams. But it was really very cool.

Speaker 2 Like I got to play that part and work with Sophia for like a month.

Speaker 1 I was like 27 or something, 26, 27. Wow.
Wow. That's pretty cool.
That is cool.

Speaker 2 I didn't get the part, but that's fine. Yeah.
Didn't even audition.

Speaker 1 So, but you didn't get the part, but you, but you got to have a sort of a really intense working relationship with Sophia and you guys stayed together.

Speaker 1 We're like, we got to do something at some point.

Speaker 2 That's the kind of vibe or I mean obviously I would have done any I would have done anything for her, but we stayed friends over the years and then I shot, we did

Speaker 2 She shot, she directed a Calvin Klein underwear commercial that I was in.

Speaker 2 And then and then she did this Bill Murray Christmas special for Netflix and we had a little scene in that and and she was like, there's like a something happening here.

Speaker 2 Like this is like a good dynamic. And I think she got the ideas sort of from that scene we had together.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 1 But what was that like working working with Bill Murray? A lot of people.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, you don't really talk to many people that work with him. I know.
You know, they're as elusive as he is.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That is true.
Also, by the way, I've never thought about that. That's true.

Speaker 2 We have, we, when we were doing that workshop, Sophia was trying to cast him, and she had a dedicated assistant who sat outside our rehearsals with a phone waiting for him to call back all day, every day.

Speaker 1 God, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 Right? Because, like, by the way, she already had a relationship with him, had a successful film with him and stuff, but she still had to have that.

Speaker 2 No, no, no. That was for Lost in Translation.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was for Lost Translation.

Speaker 2 Yes, that was originally when I met her and we were working on that. She had not cast him.
She was still courting him. And, you know, he's like Loch Ness McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Because the story goes like you can only reach him via fax or something like that. I know.
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 2 I don't, I've never had.

Speaker 1 She's got a phone number that you can call and leave a message.

Speaker 2 Like a toll-free number or something for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. But he really is like, he did a guest spot.
I had a show called Angie Trebeka. Yes.
And he did a guest spot and he called me and I booked his ticket.

Speaker 2 He was like, oh, yeah, I want to leave at nine. Oh, no way.
On Wednesday. I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 That's funny. Are you serious?

Speaker 2 Jet blue. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's funny.
Way. Yeah.
And is he just about as chill and sort of don't sweat the small stuff as he seems?

Speaker 2 He's pretty great. I I mean, he is extremely charismatic.

Speaker 2 You know, he's like, and he's also, what I didn't really know, I'd worked with him a couple times before, but doing a whole movie with him, like he's so,

Speaker 2 he's so good. He's so good.
I'm not saying anything you don't know, but he's such a good actor and he's so.

Speaker 2 He's so present and he still works hard as an actor. You know, he's not checked out.
Right.

Speaker 2 He could be checked out because he's like, just his talent is, is, is, you know, undeniable. But he's like, he works hard.

Speaker 2 He had like a lot of big, meaty monologues in that movie where he would talk about biology, evolutionary biology, and the nature of men and women. And it was a lot.

Speaker 2 He had to run down some serious theories. And he was like fully committed.

Speaker 2 I love

Speaker 1 him on this show.

Speaker 2 He's awesome.

Speaker 1 Did you wait? First of all, why don't you wait out in the hall? Yeah, by the way.

Speaker 2 Not good enough.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 I'm already thinking about the next guest.

Speaker 1 Already thinking about old Bill Murray.

Speaker 1 We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 All right, so let's switch gears. All of a sudden, now you find yourself in with the gang over at Pixar,

Speaker 1 right?

Speaker 1 The crew.

Speaker 1 The crew, the Pixar crew. The Pixar crew, they approach you and they go, Rashida,

Speaker 1 we want you to come in here and start mixing it up on the Toy Story

Speaker 1 bonanza. How'd that go down? I mean, this is, I love these Toy Story movies.
I love Pixar movies so much. Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 2 Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 And it was, yeah, I was on parks and, you know, they have really kind of cool development where every, you know, they're, they're development people, they're casting people, they watch indie films.

Speaker 2 Like that's how they get their ideas, you know, like I had had some friends who'd written indie movies who had written there. And we went and screened Celeste and Jesse Forever.

Speaker 2 And then we got a call to meet on a project all very, very under wraps, you know, like they have to keep everything really. And we went and met and we got the job.

Speaker 2 And so I went to Sure and I was like, listen, listen, I love you. I love the show.
I want to be here, but I got a job. It's at Pixar.
I have to move to the Bay Area.

Speaker 2 And like, but I need your blessing, you know? And he was like, he's the greatest. He's the best boss ever because he let everybody do everything they wanted to do while we were doing that show.

Speaker 2 And Chris Pratt, they like filmed in London so Pratt could do the Marvel, the first Marvel movie he did.

Speaker 2 He just wanted everybody to be like the best version of themselves. So he was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 of course, you have to go. How long did you, how long did you live in the Bay Area to do that?

Speaker 2 I lived there two years.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
And you had to live there while you were writing it because the process is so sort of collaborative and back and forth?

Speaker 2 It's collaborative. It's iterative.
You're rewriting a script every three weeks. It is not a WGA job.
I'll just say that.

Speaker 2 And you're working with the story artists and they're sort of writing within their, the way that they, you know, draw changes the story.

Speaker 2 And then you have to like change the script to fit the sequences they've.

Speaker 1 Yeah. One of the greatest documentaries I've ever seen is the Pixar story.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 They sit down and show that to you on your first day there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should. It's so fascinating.
Yeah. Yeah.
See that?

Speaker 1 And I did Monsters University that little movie. And so I went up there too.
And the whole facility is the coolest. Like everybody's just playing ping pong and walking around.

Speaker 2 Like it's like there's a vibe there.

Speaker 1 It's like college. Yeah.
There's

Speaker 1 so good at ping pong up there.

Speaker 2 They're so good at ping-pong.

Speaker 1 That's the one thing I love about Pixar is how good it ping pong is.

Speaker 1 I did one movie. I did a ratatouille.
It's not a big deal back in the day. With Bradbird.
With Bradbird. Who cares? That's a good movie.
That's a very good thing.

Speaker 1 You played that great, you created that great big, huge dude, right? The German.

Speaker 1 No, he's the German sous chef.

Speaker 1 So good. Yeah, yeah.
Fun movie. Bradbird is such a genius.
That guy's a genius.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's amazing.

Speaker 1 It feels nice. They send me a nice coffee table book every Christmas.

Speaker 1 Oh, they do yeah it's just about just different subjects each each year just stuff you know from everybody from your friends and pictures about boats and it's very nice i really appreciate it um wait a lot of coffee tables i drink a lot of coffee okay guys

Speaker 1 you and jason both grew up in the valley did you ever run into each other have you known each other or no

Speaker 1 Have you always passed each other?

Speaker 2 You don't remember, do you?

Speaker 1 I want to know. I want to hear this.

Speaker 2 I don't remember. No, I definitely, we've crossed paths.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. No, uh-oh.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 There's no, there's no raw stories. There's no raw stories.
I just remember like seeing you around and like, you were cute. All my friends liked you.

Speaker 2 I just feel like there's, there's so much crossover. 80s Valley?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like where in the, like, was this before we were driving? Were we, were we at like

Speaker 1 80s?

Speaker 2 No, because you were driving when I was like 12.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or 11.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I feel like there was like, um,

Speaker 2 like, I'm trying to think of the 80s parties,

Speaker 2 80s clubs.

Speaker 1 Well, sure, like

Speaker 1 Roxbury. Peanuts, Roxbury.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you didn't see each other. That's what I'm saying.
Well, I wasn't remembering a lot back then. But let's go back to Flippers and Peanuts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Flippers was a roller skating place where Flippers? Flippers is now the CVS on the corner of La Cienga and Santa Monica. And you still go there.

Speaker 2 It was like a Studio 54, but roller skates.

Speaker 1 But don't worry, not Studio 46. It was happening.
And then there was a big club where the Beverly Center is right now. Oh, yes.
It was called Odyssey, wasn't it? I think that was. Odyssey, yes.

Speaker 1 Roxbury, though, that was a spot. And

Speaker 1 then above the Roxy on the rocks, that was

Speaker 1 a big whiskey bar at the bottom of the Sunset Marquee was a big huge

Speaker 1 haunt. Bangin', yes.

Speaker 2 Me too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was good times. So see, I do remember things.
But just not her.

Speaker 2 Did you go to high school? Like, did you go, or did you go to high school and

Speaker 1 i did not

Speaker 1 imagine it imagine a okay rashita imagine a school bus no no that was that was the back of it has a bunch of massage tables and the back of it

Speaker 1 so it's a massage bus right there

Speaker 1 she doesn't know about you went to massage bus school yeah yeah it was it was called heartlight um it was an experimental school it was just one year exactly and i also grew up with amanda yeah yeah amanda oh jason

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 yeah we all go back yeah um where did the acting bug come from?

Speaker 1 Was there... For what age? Well, your mom, obviously, your mom.

Speaker 2 My mom was an actress. Yeah.
Was an actress.

Speaker 1 She was encouraging the great Peggy Lipton. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yes, the great Peggy Lipton. Yeah, she was encouraging.
I was like, my rebellion was like, I'm not doing this Hollywood bully.

Speaker 2 I'm not doing insurance.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to buy it. And you're right.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I wanted to be a lawyer.
I wanted to be taken seriously. I wanted to be legitimate.

Speaker 1 You would have been a great lawyer, by the way. Yeah.
No offense. For real, you would have been.
What kind of lawyer?

Speaker 2 I wanted to litigate. Like, I wanted to be like, you know, Spencer Tracy in Inherit the Wind.

Speaker 2 You know, like, I wanted to argue the case and

Speaker 1 you could do that with a lot of different kinds of law, can't you? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But there's no particular law that really interests you, like

Speaker 1 environmental law or criminal law.

Speaker 2 I probably would want to have been like, yeah, like I would have been like a DA or something, you know?

Speaker 1 Rashida, with all of your success already, have you sort of

Speaker 1 like slowed down your dreaming? Like, do you even allow yourself to, like, where, where would you love to see yourself in 5, 10, 15, 20 years? Is it more on the writing side, the acting side?

Speaker 1 Like, just like harmony, just

Speaker 1 with your family? Like, or do your goals move as often as

Speaker 1 mine do? And do you just settle on anything?

Speaker 2 Yeah. That, no, I don't know.
I'm in a real, like, maybe you guys can tell me because you're a tiny bit older than me. I'm having that moment right now where I'm like, I don't know anything.

Speaker 1 I don't know anything. That's better.
And by the way, you can do it all because you're already doing it all. I don't know.
I don't know. Am I? But yes, you are.
We're also.

Speaker 1 I just started therapy.

Speaker 1 This is true. I'm going to get real for a second.
And I fucking don't know anything.

Speaker 1 This is the most scared I've been in my life. Yeah.
Is right now. That's good though.

Speaker 1 That's good, though, Will. Wait, why? Because it's really scary.
I'm doing like, I can't even believe I'm talking about this. I had heavy therapy this morning and I can't believe it.

Speaker 1 It's scaring you because you're like, you're like admitting that like you might not know as much as you're pretending to know. Yeah, that's that's the tip of it.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
And I do think there is something, there is something at this moment. There's something sort of like regenerative.
And I'm sure it's coming for you, Will.

Speaker 2 Like right now, you're, you're sort of like resetting, which is incredibly scary. But most people I talk to who are 50, just turned 50, have this thing where they're like, who am I?

Speaker 2 There's like this full rebirth.

Speaker 2 Who do I want to be for the next 50 years if we're lucky? What does my back half look like? What's actually fulfilling? What does my ego want? Do I need to fulfill my ego?

Speaker 2 Do I need to fulfill a deeper soul purpose?

Speaker 1 Like so much is coming up. Talk about all that shit in my therapy.
I talk about all that stuff. Yeah.
So good. Will, I'm excited for for you.
This is really exciting.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be scared. I would embrace it.
Embrace the fear of driving.

Speaker 2 But the fear is good because we're all scared.

Speaker 1 I had to, like,

Speaker 1 I had to put eye drops in just to, so that my eyes were white because I just was like,

Speaker 1 it was rough. Well, really.
I know. I had a really rough morning.
Well, anyway. I love it.
It's been a lot of time. That's like a good workout.
Thanks.

Speaker 2 But good for you for doing that work because you could just like slide by and you could probably be okay and live in denial for the rest of your life.

Speaker 2 And the fact that you're going deep right now means you're going to rebuild and be like the best part of yourself.

Speaker 1 By the way, the best part is I told Polar yesterday and she's like, oh, I'm so glad. I'm like, what do you mean you're so glad?

Speaker 1 She's like 20 years too late.

Speaker 1 Oh my God. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's like we're all here talking about laughing about it on a podcast.

Speaker 1 I know, but it is so weird. You're right.

Speaker 1 I think at this stage of your life, you've done stuff and like you've had like the this huge first couple chapters of your life and you have the work stuff and you have the adolescence and then the work stuff, then the kids stuff, and then the work with kids stuff, and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 And you get to this point, you're like, okay, now

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 2 Right. And also, that's all that stuff that you thought for your entire life was going to fill the gap.
You're like, wait, it doesn't quite fill that gap. There's still a little piece missing.

Speaker 2 And what is that piece? Like, and we're privileged enough to have succeeded in a way. But I think for everybody, they're like, wait a second, it's just going to be this forever.

Speaker 2 Like all the firsts are gone. Yeah, it's most of the firsts are gone.

Speaker 1 Wow. I talk about all that, Rashida, in my therapy.

Speaker 2 But to your point, Jason, like I think everybody here, including me, I want to do, I want to not to be overly earnest, but I want to be able to create from a, from like a real source, from a feeling of connection.

Speaker 2 So I'm like, I'm taking a little breath to figure out what that actually is and what that looks like and what I want to say because, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to, I don't want to just put shit out. And also, it's hard to put shit out right now, but, you know.

Speaker 1 All right, so wait. So, Rashida, so then, first of all, everything you're saying is like so well said.
That's like so succinct and to the point. And I love it.

Speaker 1 What is the best advice somebody's given you to get over what we're all talking about? Or to not get over it, but to kind of deal with it. Yeah, manage it.

Speaker 2 Well, like the thing I always go back to is my, my dad says, make decisions based on love and not fear, which sounds so platitudinal, but it's really not.

Speaker 2 Like when you think about it, Will, like, you know, what you were just saying, like, I have often looked at my life and thought, let me just do this thing that I know is the kind of safe way to do it.

Speaker 2 Or let me do this thing that's going to make people love me and because I'm afraid of not being loved as opposed to like really, really loving something and believing in something and not.

Speaker 1 caring. Worrying about the results.
Yeah. Well, I realize that I have all these tricks.

Speaker 1 What I've come to sort of realize anyway in the last couple of weeks is that I have a lot of these tricks that I can do that help me get over things and get by and I can kind of and I can get to a place of okay.

Speaker 1 And I can kind of put the

Speaker 1 things back on track, but, but, but there's a, there are patterns there. And I'm like, nothing's ever going to really change unless I actually look at it.
That's the

Speaker 2 I think looking at it, acknowledging it.

Speaker 2 And then I would say my greatest gift is like just continuing to develop my inner life, like something that has, it is not connected to anybody else, creating almost like a little

Speaker 2 house inside,

Speaker 2 whether it's meditation or breath, whatever it is, nature.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's self-sufficient and it's not reliant on external approval, gratification.

Speaker 1 Yeah, love that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anyway, anyway. Have you seen Goonies? Yeah.
I haven't seen Goonies in a while. Really good movie.
Welcome back to Sean's Hot Takes.

Speaker 1 Hot Takes instead of hot takes. Triple hot.

Speaker 1 Well, Rashida,

Speaker 1 you are real sweet to give us an hour of your day. Yeah.
That was so fun, you guys. You're appreciating it.
Is that an hour? Wow. That's an hour, yeah.
Look at us. They're breezy.

Speaker 1 It's a breezy little stop here.

Speaker 1 We were just getting into the meat of it, too, right? No, we were getting too deep. I know.
We're just starting to get me. Do you want to take another bite, Will? No, I don't.
I don't.

Speaker 1 Should we talk about therapy? Some more? Another brain.

Speaker 1 I really, really don't. I can't believe we talked about it at all.
I love that.

Speaker 1 This is good.

Speaker 1 It's great to be vulnerable. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We always talk about that shit.

Speaker 1 It's good. Good, good.
Rashida, we love you. I love you.
Rashida, we do love you.

Speaker 1 This was so fun. Thank you.
Thank you for doing this.

Speaker 2 And talking to me. Watch Sunny.

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Rashida. Congratulations on that.
Yeah. Congratulations on everything.
So much love to your family and continued success.

Speaker 1 You're great. Thanks, guys.
Love you. Thanks, Rashida.
Bye, guys.

Speaker 1 See you soon.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, Willie, that's now, that's almost your kind of

Speaker 1 half-wife, right? Isn't she best friends with Amy? Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I've spent a lot of time with Rashida over the years. We've like a lot of time.
We've vacationed together many times. We've just done,

Speaker 1 she and I actually went, well, not to, we asked her together to Mike Scher's wedding.

Speaker 1 What do you call her for short? Sheetah. Sheeta? Yeah, Sheeta.
Sheet, Sheety. Sheets.
Yeah, Jones, Jonesy.

Speaker 1 Rashida, Jones. And me.
RJ, ever RJ? RJ would be good. Oh, RJ's good.

Speaker 1 You're obsessed with the initials, Jay. Yeah, I do like the initials.
I call you Jay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's lovely. She's so grounded.
She's so well, she's so smart and funny and like just razor sharp and has always been. And yeah, I always like spending time with Rashida Jones.

Speaker 1 And easy on the eyes. And easy ones.

Speaker 1 Easy on the eyes. But she's grown up in such a, in such a

Speaker 1 potentially privileged, isolated

Speaker 1 environment, yet does not seem that

Speaker 1 she probably works hard to not be very, very down to earth.

Speaker 1 You wouldn't, if you didn't know that her dad was Quincy Jones and that she'd grown up in Hollywood, if you met her in a coffee shop in Kansas City, you'd be like, oh, she's just somebody from any coffee shop USA.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And who is just a smart, you know,

Speaker 1 awesome person.

Speaker 1 But she has no, there's no, she's not spoiled to that way.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Really great.

Speaker 1 But at the end there, I like that we got real, real about it. And I like talking about this stuff.
And I'm glad you're doing that, Will. That's really great.

Speaker 1 And I love when Jason asked if we weren't done, if you wanted to take another

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