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What's Shoddy mean?

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Why is that?

Why do...

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What does Shoddy mean?

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Hey, Sean. Do you have an understudy? I do's great max roll he's amazing now uh as have you given max a chance to get up there and do his thing yeah one time well so one night remember i i chain smoked right i chain smoked on stage right and it made my vocal cords just massively inflamed and i couldn't barely talk so i was like so i missed one show and he went on he was fantastic oh my god so now i don't now i took out all this stuff from the cigarette so now it's the it's the vape pen that lights up when you suck in but it's just air so i took out all this stuff but you're still sucking i'm still sucking hey uh i just wanted to get that audio clip and guys you copy and paste that and put in the file that I've got going of these guys saying stupid shit? Is that a sound meme? I'm really punchy today.
I took a Valium last night just so I could sleep. And I was like...
Are you still up? Did it not work? No, it worked. But I'm just like, hey, how's everybody doing today? You just have like a loose bottle of Valium hanging around? Well, I don't understand.
Is there like Uber drugs that you just pop over? Do you not understand how prescriptions work? Yeah. No, I take one every few weeks.
What's the prescription look like on that? What do you mean? It's a Valium. Yeah, but why do you have it? Because if I have trouble sleeping every several weeks, I take one every couple months just to get back in the sleep habit.
That's a sleep aid, huh? For me, it is. Do you know what a sleep aid is, JB? Yeah, it's called, what's it called? Gummy.
Ganja? Ganja, gummies, Ambien, Xanax. I had not heard of the Valium.
I thought Valium's for pain. Last time I talked to Jason after 7 p.m., he was like, Irie, man.
That sounds Irie. Let's talk tomorrow.
Greetings in the name of the Semperarize. I'm like, buddy, can you play golf tomorrow or not? No, Jay, Valium's like, it's the same family of Xanax and all those.
Oh. That's a real fun family

by the way.

It's like the Manson

family. It's the only family that would accept me.

Oh, we're saving

a seat for you, Sean. Oh, Shani.

Good luck, buddy. Hey, listen,

I'm feeling really punchy

today, too. It's so hot out here

on the East Coast. It's unbelievably

hot. Can you get it cooler before I get out there, Willie? I don't know, man.
It's so hot. Is it thick? Very thick.
And I was just riding my bike into town and I was like, halfway there, I was like, this is a bad idea. It's really hot today.
But anyway, I'm really excited, though, to be back here, to be back inside, to be talking to our guest. I'm excited.
Our guest. I am such a fan of our guest, and I'm also a personal fan of our guest.
This better not be a classy guest. This is a funny person.
Well, she is. She's both.
She's very classy, and she's very funny. And I think that she started much more sort of serious, just based on her credits and the movies she did and the shows she did, and then started to get into comedy and was just an absolute home run when it comes to comedy, but then can kind of flip back and still do the serious stuff, which is really, if it wasn't so admirable, it'd be annoying, you know what I mean? Double threat.
All the while being like a really cool person. We've never really worked together except for we did represent a country once together.
And I'll explain that in a second. So she's Australian.
She's Australian. She's the pride of Australia.
We know her from so many shows. Rose Byrne.
I love Rose Byrne. It is Rose Byrne.
Yeah, I got it. I love Rose Byrne.
Got it. Hi, Rose.
How's it going? Is it a cute short haircut? Or we got it all up in the back? No, no, I'm just like a top knot. Well, look how good you look in a bob.
Yeah. You look good in a bob.
It does look like I've kind of got a bob on, doesn't it? How's it going? Hi, how are you? I haven't seen you for so long. Rose Byrne, where are you right now? Hi, friend.

I'm in Brooklyn. Oh.
Brooklyn, New York. Yeah, Brooklyn, New York.
I'm on the East Coast. Yeah, I just got back from Australia, the country we both represent.
Sure. That didn't come about.
Can we stop there for a second? Well, she allowed me to come along for the journey. She was really representing.
Well, tell people what you're talking about. Rose, there's no shortage of really talented, handsome, funny men that are actually Australian.
So how far down the list do you go before you hit American and then to get to Will Arnett on the American list? Uh-huh. To all be Canadian.
Canadian. It's a spot that you both did, a commercial that you did for travel to Australia, right? It was a campaign for tourism in Australia.
Thank you, Sean, just in case our audience was confused. Who gives a shit if they know what we're talking about when it comes to this? They don't need to know everything.
How do we cast Will Arnett in that, Rose? It was just my voice. Yeah, it was playing an American.
The character is, you know, this foreigner American who comes in.

Oh, God.

And it's just, he's a unicorn.

Yeah.

Yeah, truly?

I am.

And my character is too, yeah.

So you play an animated American unicorn.

What a commercial.

That's true.

Do you do an Australian accent, Will, at all?

Yes. I mean, I don't really.
I don't. A very good one.
Nye. Nye.
Can you do one? You probably can. Aluminium.
Yes, he does a very good one. Do it.
Just a little. Give us a little.
Come on, you're in front of the green screen. There's a, oh, that's a knife.
You love doing the knife one. Oh, yeah, that's not a knife.
This is a knife. Yeah, that whole thing.
That's not bad. I mean, I get into it.
But then it becomes a whole thing about the dingo and it ate my baby and all this sort of stuff. And I don't want to get off track here, you know.
Wait, what movie was that from? Wasn't that Nicole Kidman? No. No, Meryl Streep.
Meryl Streep said with a straight face. There's a really famous but very infamous case in Australia about a woman who was jailed for murdering her child, Lindy Chamberlain.
And she tried to blame it on a dingo? Yeah. Yeah, well, and they didn't believe her and it became this sort of national kind of witch hunt for her and then she eventually was acquitted many years later.
But it was a famous film with Meryl Streep. And her big defense was a big thing.

A cry in the dark.

Yeah, that's what it was called.

It was sort of an Australian equivalent of

Where's the Beef? I think.

Was it not a comedy?

She said that seriously.

She found the laughs. Meryl found the laughs.

But it was a very serious

case and we're not downplaying the

seriousness of what happened. So again, spare us your letters.
We don't want to hear it. We were just joking around.
So that's where Rose and I met, and I was absolutely immediately delighted to work with Rose. She's so professional, but forget the work.
She's such a cool, fun person. And so exactly what I hoped you would be, which is like super down to earth and cool.
And I was like, and super talented. And you're like, wow, some people got it all.
And then, you know, I work with these guys and some people have none. So, but the point is, it was just such a delight to get to know you and i'm such a fan of everything you've done which is a lot and when i start to go through all your credits i'm like except for no i was gonna so what happens is when i was getting new that you were coming on today and i'm going through all this stuff i'm like oh yeah roses in Rose was in that.
I mean, you have made countless films and television.

Making the hay, guys.

Making the hay.

You got to keep dancing.

You got to just crunch it up.

So what was the first one?

What was the big, what was the first professional gig that you can remember?

The first job I got paid for, I did this movie called,

pretty strange little movie called Dallas Doll, not to be confused with Debbie Does Dallas. No.
Sure. Or North Dallas 40.
Yep. Dallas Doll.
I'm seeing a pole. It's a gold pole.
It's shiny. No? No, it was a cool little script, and Sandra Bernhard came out to do it to Australia in like the early 90s and I auditioned and got this part.
But I had started acting classes like youth at a youth program here in Sydney when I was like eight years old and then a casting agent came to one of my classes and cast me in this movie. So you had this, and you ended up going to,

you did this acting class.

Did you end up going and studying acting as well?

Like in like an academy?

Well, I didn't get into NIDA,

which is like the sort of, you know,

most sort of well-known Australian,

the National Institute of Dramatic Art, which has, you know, very famous alumni. But I didn't get in, guys.
Didn't get in. Oh, there were lots.
So I just... By the way, they're kicking themselves now.
And by the way, if you know in Australia, they kicked themselves the other way. Yeah, they kicked the other way.
Not a lot of people know that. Not a lot of people know that.
They kicked the other way. But you know, I've worked with Jason too.
I've worked out two out of three of you guys, which is pretty cool. This is Where I Leave You.
Oh, This Is Where I Leave You. How long ago was that now? That was the comedy about sitting shiver.
Yes, with Jane Fonda. The Sean Levy vehicle.
The great Sean Levy, Adam Driver, Corey Stoll, Tina Fey. Amazing cast, wasn't it? That is an amazing cast.
Yeah, we had a great, great time. So to go back, so you go back, you get this movie with Sandra Bernhardt.
She flies all the way to Australia. You do this movie.
Then what happens? That movie comes out and you're like, I'm set. Dallas, baby, what's it called,, Dallas baby? Literally just stared at the phone.
Ready to roll. Then, no, like I finished high school and I started auditioning for other TV jobs and stuff in Australia and I got a few bits and pieces.
And then when I was 18, I got cast in this film called Two Hands opposite Heath Ledger, directed by this wonderful writer-director, Gregor Jordan, and that film was a really big hit in Australia and that was like you know a sort of

turning point I suppose for me back home so that was in like 99, 98 or something I was like pretty

young and so it was Heath who was like teenagers. So you have this big hit in Australia you're like

I'm out of here. Then I did the classic thing of going to L.A.
to just try to audition for years, like trying to get an agent. I remember I got my first agent and I was so excited.
I was like, I'm all set. I've got this agent.
She's really great. She's got a great client list and she signed me off the movie and went back to Australia.
Never heard from her again. No.
Never heard from her again. Name her right now.
Name her right now. Where's the great Bobby Cannavale this morning? Bobby, he's unpacking because we just got back so he's like in the trenches with the kids unpacking.
But he says hello to of you yes and bobby kind of bolly who was

on will and grace forever playing will's boyfriend yes and we played he played uh he played my superhero boss or super villain boss in the thing with uh melissa mccarthy where i had crab arms how did you guys meet bloody funny um we met through uh an actor called tate donovan who was on Damages, which is a TV show I did with Glenn Close.

Yes, of course.

Who was on Damages, which is a TV show I did with Glenn Close.

Yes, you did.

For a long time.

Yes.

And Marty Short was on that.

And Glenn Kessler.

Yes, yeah.

And Glenn Kessler and Daniel Zellman.

Dan Zellman was one of the creators.

Deborah Messing used to be married.

Look at all these connections.

Look at all the guys. We're just crunching it out.
Look at this. Now, where is Bobby juggling? You have two young boys, right? Yes, yeah.
And he has a third boy, Jake, who is 28. Yes.
Oh, my God. So he's got boys, boys, boys.
How do you guys do it? You guys both work so so much i mean i i'm sorry if you get this question a lot but it is just i don't know how people do it where you got two young kids and both parents are working all the time out of town um it must be tough but are they both now in kindergarten or first grade yeah they're both like sort of in but they've been it's like i had i've had a job harder right it's hard yeah because then they're in school but it's a little bit case by case basis i don't know about you guys with your families and children and stuff but a little bit case by case just do your best like trying right sometimes in the summer they can come but yeah a little bit and they've gone to schools in la on and off you know so it's like a little bit of that kind of but i guess older is it gets, pardon me, as they get older, right, Will? It does get harder. It does get harder, and it's a lot more of a negotiation, and because what happens is they have friends.
Jason knows this too. They have friends, and they're like, you're like, hey, we're going to do this.
And they're like, no, man, I want to be with my buddies. Right.
And we don't care about your thing. Yeah, craft service is great, but.
I know. That's such a draw card, right? They card right they love that they talk about that they just go i want to go back to the table with the snacks i was at i'm going through a thing right now where my 14 year old is on a trip and i haven't talked to him for um three and a half days now because he's not allowed to use his phone and i am suffering yeah i bet he's having a great time and i am going crazy wait will you will you have no idea uh you have no way to check in with him yet no like a chaperone when he got there when he got there he was able to check in and he facetimed i facetimed him and it was great and then he checked in again later he's like hey we we got to give up our phones now because the deal was on this trip that everybody gives up their phones and that these guys, these sort of counselor guys, take them.
And so we're like, yeah, this is really good. Meanwhile, my ex and I were like, this is great.
This is great for him. And now three days in, she and I are texting each other and being like, how do we...
What about the chaperone? Can you text the chaperone? I mean, we can. We know that he's...
We know he's okay. We've gotten word and stuff.
He's fine. And right before he gave up his phone, later of the first day, I tried to FaceTime...
I tried to cram another FaceTime in. Bless.
And he was like, Dad, I can't pick up the phone. What are you doing? And I was like, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just making sure.
Oh, Will. I know.
I know. A little Archie.
Guys, Will's sweet. I know he doesn't seem sweet, but this guy got a real soft, chewy center.
You're all sweet. Rose, what's going on this summer? Do you have any time to take any family trips aside from Australia? Well, this was a pretty big one.
It was like a month. I was in the outback, Will.
I thought of you. You were? I was in the outback, yeah.
Were you in Uluru? We went to Uluru, which is this gorgeous, I mean, incredible, very sacred spiritual site out in the middle of Australia. It's wild.
If you ever get a chance to go, any of you, please, please do go. So what's so funny is when Rose and I did this thing, we actually had this friend of hers who directed it, shot all this incredible footage all over Australia.
And then we kind of narrated our way as our characters went through with this great footage. So it feels like Rose and I have been on a tour of Australia together before.
That's why she's like, we were in New Orleans. I know.
I was like, remember when we went there? I have dumb, dumb questions. Do you miss it when you're not there? Like, do you still have family? Oh, I do.
Have you ever been? I've never been. I want.
Oh, Sean, you've never been to Australia? I've never been. It's a very long flight.
Have you, Jason? I have a bunch of times. Yeah.
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
I love Australia. I would love to go there.
I will say, though, and this might be controversial, when you fly that long, you would love for it to be equal. You would like the distance, you would like the difference of the locale to be equal to the distance of the flight.
You know what I mean? Like, in other words, it's very similar to the US in that people speak English and they look sort of Anglo and they're all kind of, except they drive on the other side. It's a little bit like Canada to me, which is great.
I love Canada, but I can get there in an hour. You know? I can go north into Vancouver.
I feel you were underwhelmed. I'm getting a feeling you were underwhelmed.
No, but I guess in fairness, I was in Melbourne and in Sydney a lot, but I haven't been to the Outback. I haven't been up in Brisbane.
I haven't been to Surfer's Paradise. You were in the city, and that makes sense.
And I feel, look, this is a problem that we have in the world in general, which is all the cities have become. So it's the same stores in every city, right? Like you can go, you can go to Paris or you can go to Tokyo or you can go to London or you can go to St.
Louis and there's a Fendi store. Yeah.
You know what I mean? And Sean, good news, there's a theory there and a couple of transitions. Oh, fantastic.
I'm in. I don't mind the flight.
So wait, Rose, you can get into a Vince. Go ahead, Sean.
I haven't ever seen a Vince in Australia. I know that's a stretch.
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but Rose Rose, like, when you go there and come back, what is the culture shock? When you first moved, like, what is the difference between? I mean... We'll still go in on the vids.
What is the thing that you notice the most? What are the differences you notice the most? About Australia and the U.S.? Well, Australia is a little more laid back, I think. In general, the people are probably a little bit more laid back.
And it's just a bigger, it's a bigger, this place is just, you just can't compete with the scale and the amount of people and like, you know, things like Australia feels, it's just a smaller population. It's like, and then culturally.
It looks hotter. And it's hotter.
It just looks hot. Yeah, it's hot.
yeah but only during our winter only during our winter it can be but you also like the people like there's just um in that same sort of way that that that the english have the same sort of thing and i think canadians have this a little bit as well maybe a commonwealth thing there's just people have a better sense of of taking the piss out of each other and themselves yeah they don't take themselves as seriously as Americans do. Yeah.
On the whole. And I know that that's a very sweeping generalization.
So again, hold back your fucking letters. But I think that there is that thing about you don't take yourself too seriously.
And that's fun. There's a kind of, it's very fun.
All the people I know in Australia, I guess a lot of them are sort of actors and comedians and et cetera. But there is that kind of fun vibe.
Do you feel like they're more a united country than we are? Ooh, that's a good question. Oh, look, it's definitely...
Why'd you get real with her, dude? I'm just curious. Because it's smaller and everything you're saying, Will, I just thought like...
I was going to say, though, it sounds like there's a lot more common sense sort of policies and way of living there than perhaps we get into here just because of the opposite sides of things. It's very separated here, at least right now.
Yeah, I think the vision here at the moment is pretty extraordinary and pretty like it's not as extreme. Australians are used to government in their life a lot more than Americans are.
So, for instance, you all have a speed limit. Everyone took the vaccine without any problem.
You know, things like that. There's just more use to that involvement.
You know, health care is free, all those sorts of things. So it's just a very different mentality of government in your life.
Very similar to Canada. Rose Byrne, by the way, I saw you and you can't take it with you.
Oh, you did? You were fantastic. Yeah, I love that show.
It was my first show I ever did in high school. Oh, really? That's what everybody would say to me.
They're like, I did this in high school. It was like, yeah.
Yeah, but to see it professionally done like that, it was fantastic. James Earl Jones, like, it was such a great thing.
You've done a, well, I was going to, this is what I was getting into, you've done a lot of theater, in fact, and you and Bobby did Medea at BAM. We did, we did Medea.
To create acclaim. Okay.
And do you, do you have any great theater stories? Sorry, Sean, I'm stealing your thoughts. Yes, yes.
What went, yeah, I want to know what went wrong and you can't take it with you. Say favorite color for Sean.
Go ahead, Rose. And also your favorite color.
My favorite. That's what my six-year-old asks me.
My five-year-old, sorry. Welcome to the part.
Sounds about right. God, any theater stories? I mean, I've had that person, like, you know, have a heart attack in row three, you know, and the paramedic.
This was in Australia and I was doing a play and they had to come in

and like we were still like doing the scene.

It was three sisters, the Chekhov play and somebody, you know,

a sudden the person just starts going like that.

No way.

And just bumps over and the paramedic.

And did you have to go?

We kept going.

It was really weird.

Yeah, I was going to say, do you finish the show?

It was so weird.

We finished.

Get that bloke out of here.

We didn't stop.

Keep going.

We didn't stop the scene. It's Australia.
They're like, unless you're bitten by a snake, you just keep going, right? It's the snakes that stop things in Australia. Not the hardest.
Ten of the most powerful. But did you keep going with the play? We kept going.
We kept going. And this poor old gentleman, I think, yeah, they came in and they took him out and everybody stood up and they put him on the stretcher and took him out.
Sure. Did they check him for an overdose of Vegemite? Because I know that that can be sometimes.
High sodium content. Do people still say fair dinkum? I mean, I don't think so.
I mean, I'm sure they do. It used to be a big one, right? Yeah.
It's a little bit dated, the slang. What does it mean? Fair dinkum means like, really? Or is that right? Isn't that a replacement for that? Remember, Rose, when we did that thing, we did that Q&A, and they asked me some Australian, and they asked me fair dinkum.
And I said that fair dinkum is a term that's used to describe like somebody who's okay to hook up with. It's a fair dinkum.
You know what I mean? That I've never heard, but I like it. I thought fair dinkum was like...
Early 80s. Yeah, more like, oh, do you...
Yeah, it's a little 80s, probably. It's a little bit dated.
Fair dinkum. I got a good one for you.
I think I told these guys. What do you call a chicken staring at lettuce? What? Chicken sees a salad.
I've been using that the last 48 hours and getting a lot of folks. Rose, Jesus.
Will, do you have any dad jokes? I don't have any dad jokes. Not right now.
I'll have more by the end.

Mine are more just in the moment, like just kind of stupid.

But here's how great Sean is.

Sean just FaceTimed me in the middle of the day or night the other day.

I couldn't tell.

And I was like, okay, I'll pick up the FaceTime.

I know.

A lot of work.

People have FaceTime.

And he said, I picked up, hello.

Hey, so just real quick, just for a quick, quick joke.

And then he tells me that joke, and I laugh, and he hangs up.

Thank you. That's so good.
I love Sean. We came up the other day with, I told Sean this, that somebody who's had just a little bit of, just a little bit of surgery done to them, you know, just a little bit of work done.
Somebody? Just anybody who has, you can just go, we look over and we go, they've just said, oh, somebody had a visit from the youth fairy. Yeah, see, I like that.
Just a nice little visit from the youth fairy. Maybe got bit by the youth fairy.
But here's the thing. Rose, what do you use on your skin because you look like you're 12 years old? Yeah.
Your skin is flawless. Wow.
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you look great.
Thanks, guys. Congratulations.
What do you do? What do you do? What do you do? Do you do all the scrubs and the peels and the thing and the thing? I think it's the lighting in here. I'm not trying to be.
I think it's all lighting. It's all lighting, buddy.
He wants to know the name of your turner. You to sleep early.
You eat right. You kind of do all that stuff.
All those boring things, I guess. But it is very dark in here.
It is dark. It's got a soft light.
It's a really soft light. What do you pig out on? What do you just love to pig out on? Drinking this.
Look at this. She's having a big...
They're both having Coca-Colas. But this is because I got food poisoning on the plane on the way back.
Yeah. And nothing a Coca-Cola can't solve.
Filthy, so I got the black doctor. Don't name the airline.
I know. I know.
I didn't... Did you guys go through...
Did you stop in LA? We just stopped in LA. We changed planes.
And then on the way from New York to JFK... Just recently? Just yesterday you got food poisoning? Yesterday I got in last night but I was like throwing up the whole time.
Last night? Oh no. Oh how do you feel today? I can't believe you're doing this.
Oh no I feel okay. Yeah I feel okay.
Yeah I feel okay. But it was so gross.
Like the tiny bag on the plane. Oh no.
Oh no. I know.
It was so gross. Food poisoning is the worst.
Food poisoning takes over your whole brain and your body. It's amazing, yeah.
It's like quite, it's like your whole body. And you guys had the kids with you as well.
It was you and Bobby and the kids. They were asleep, though, because it was the last leg of the flight, so it was okay.
I've just never had it on a plane before. Yeah.
How much longer have you got left, Sean, of the show? How long has it been? August 27th is our last day. Oh, wow.
Okay. August 27th is the closing night.
And how do you guys know each other? Like, how do you all know? 23, 24 years ago. I was his acting teacher.
Wait, how? No. Yeah, and I still go to him.
I'm still working on it. No, we used to play poker.
I met Will actually before the poker thing, but we didn't get close until we all started playing poker like regularly every week. And then with Jason and with everybody and with blah, blah, blah.
And then, yeah, we were just... Years and years ago.
Years and years. And in that time, we've done two shows together.
We never even talked about it. We've done together isn't that wild we did Up All Night on NBC with Christina Applegate and Maya and then we did The Millers on CBS oh cool we'd gone on remember Sean we went on that trip and then Sean called like a week later called me back he was like I think I'm gonna do this show with you next year and I was like oh my god isn't that wild Sean did I see that you've got a compression sleeve on your right arm? I'm both, yeah.
Oh, from playing piano? Yeah. Wow.
No, from lifting weights. Yeah, exactly.
Did you lift up a heavy egg salad the other day? Did you, but it's not, how the wrists? Your wrists. The wrists are decent.
They're decent. Do you still have to ice your hands at the end of every show? Ice them before and then twice after every day.
Oh, my God. Are you a piano prodigy? Sure.
No. No, I started playing when I was five, and then I thought I was going to be a conductor and compose music and be a concert pianist, and then I got the acting bug, you know, early on.

And then I was, I became a music director out, you know, out of college.

That's what gave you the food poisoning, right?

The acting bug?

Yeah.

Nice.

Speaking of hands, I took my first cold plunge the other day.

Rose, are you doing that? I'm so into it.

I'm so into it.

Oh, my God.

I'm like, I never get into that stuff.

And I'm addicted to it.

Rose, tell me about the first time.

Tell me about the first time.

Because what does that feel like?

Yeah, I never get into that stuff, and I'm addicted to it. Rose, tell me about the first time.
Tell me about the first time, because what does that feel like? It's really, I want to, yeah, go ahead. It's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know how you, I'm very.
I didn't like it. Yeah, I know.
I didn't like it. So do I end up liking it after two or three or four times? You kind of get addicted to it.
I got it. I am addicted to it.
It's like you just, it becomes like something you have to overcome and the high afterward is just it's not even high, you just feel really relaxed, you sleep really well I found it really helps me fall asleep and your skin looks amazing, like it does something amazing to your pores I can't believe you know that I built my first cold plunge 10 years ago before anybody else did. I'm now building my third one out here.
And I swear to God. So hang on a second.
When you say you built it, you're slapping together all the ceramic on the tub there and running pipes. I'm doing a lot of like, yeah, you should go there.
Hey, keep working. Why are you guys sitting around? I do a lot of Wait, I want to ask, Rose, when you first put, because I kind of want to try it because I do my arms every day.
Yeah, yeah. But I want to, when you first put your toe in, I feel like it would be, my body would be so sensitive, I'd be like, I'm out.
I can't do the whole, I can't go in front. Well, if you start in the sauna, right? If you start really, really hot and then you get in it.
Yeah? Yeah. Okay.
But like, you know, I'm from Australia, so we swim in the ocean in the winter. It's the winter back home now, right? And I was swimming every day in the ocean and the water's freezing.
Yeah. Pretty cold, but I go straight in.
It's a cold plunge. You know, it's like the original cold plunge is having a cold swim in the ocean.
I do the same thing. And I go back home in L.A.
I start every day with, I have the sun as well, which I do later in the day with the cold. But in the morning, I do just straight into the cold plunge.
Yeah. How long? How long do you? Like the other day, you know, if I can make it three minutes, then I'll be, then that's good.
That's amazing, yeah. But usually about two minutes.
Yeah, I'm two. In the morning.
Oh, that's it. I was told you got to make it four.
And I felt like a laser at two. I was told 30 minutes.
Three minutes, but I keep mine at 39 degrees, so it's very cold. Mine's not that cold.
Mine's probably 45. It's not 30.
Is there a way to do it where you build up the tolerance to the cold? Yeah, you just build it for 30 seconds. That's even closer.
But it does everything. It reduces inflammation.
It does all. The benefits of it are so if you can do basically, if you can build it up, I forget what the actual number is, but it's something, it's not even that much.
It's like if you can do 10 minutes, cumulative minutes per week, it does X benefits. You know, and inflammation is the root of all,

God,

now we sound

like Huberman.

Hey,

but what,

can you do

like a frog boil

type of strategy

with it

where it starts

sort of room temperature

and then you progressively

get it colder

and colder

and you end up

staying in there

for 20 minutes?

You know,

because you don't

really notice

it getting colder?

Theoretically,

I guess,

man,

I don't know. I don't work for the fucking pool company dude all right back to rose let's get back to you how long have you can you do it for jason it's just the first time i think it was two or three minutes okay yeah it felt it felt all right but how did you handle that jason like going your butt your did you go junk right away or did you go slowly No, I went right away, but it was after the sun, so it was deep sweat.
I had never been hotter. That makes sense.
So, like, as I've been building it, so by the time, Jay, you get here, the new one will be built. So as I've been waiting for it for the last year, I have, this is true, I have this big inflatable temporary tub out here, and I go and I'll get like eight, ten bags of ice.
And I fill it in with water and I make this big slushy ice thing. And I do it like that.
I sit in the ice. Oh, that's cool.
Yeah. Rose, I want to talk about your family.
So listen, what was it like growing up? Did you get pushed into this? Is it something you wanted to do? How did you get exposed to doing the thing you love to do?

Well, I grew up in a neighborhood called Balmain

and there was a lot of kids in my neighborhood

who used to go to the Australian Theater for Young People,

which is called A-T-Y-P.

And a friend of mine was like,

I think you'd really like it.

And I was only little.

I was eight.

And that's how I started,

was just doing these classes after school

and just loved it. Oh, really? Just loved it.
Anybody else in your family into it no none of my siblings not my parents anything the neighborhood we were in was you know somewhat bohemian I guess there was sort of a lot of artists there at the time it's a bit more gentrified now but um but that was yeah that was how I started was going to atyp yeah doing classes has your favorite part of it changed at all or do you still love the same things? Yeah, I mean, I still get nervous. I still get nervous before every job.
I still get panicked and think, how am I going to do this? How am I not going to screw this up? Like, I feel like the nerves are still there about it. Like, I don't know if the actor's condition is sort of, you can't really change it, right guys feel like that yeah i mean anytime i'm calm i i end up doing a terrible job a little bit of nerves keeps me um i think so i think so too you know but um but you know it's funny though i but you know for somebody who you say that you get nervous or whatever i mean and and i mentioned this before like you're always working you have three you have two shows in a movie out right now as of the time of this broadcast.
Like, you've got Physical, your show Physical, right? Which is your thing about set in the 80s where you play this sort of like a housewife who's kind of discontented. I mean, there's more than that, but that's the logline I'm going to give you.
And then you've got Platonic with Seth Rogen, right? The show where you guys play best friends who are having Platonic. And then you have Insidious.
And I'm like, this is like, that's, to have three major things out at the same time. I mean, it's unusual and it's a lot.
Please, you have freedom to complain. Go.
Yeah. That's a lot.
Well, all the press. And do you feel, yeah, the press, exactly.
So the press alone that you have to do for that stuff. And a little bit is like, be careful what you wish for.
Do you ever feel like that? I mean, I'm honestly just like, you got to make hay a little bit. It's such a sort of, but I feel like when I've, you know, it's judged by job, right? Like when I got the scripts for Physical, this was a few years ago, but it was just such an interesting premise and pilot and like a character I'd never really seen before, set in this really specific world of like, you know, how the wellness industry really began, you know, sort of reverse engineering that and really looking at this illness of bulimia, which is something that's never really been examined before on screen in a way that wasn't like a punchline or wasn't sort of, you know, and this was doing it in a way that I thought was really interesting and it's really Annie Wiseman's story.
She's the creator and she's been very much a touchstone for me in terms of like how we represent it.

But I don't know about you guys,

but I just always feel like the last job you do

is maybe the last job you'll ever get.

Oh, 100%.

Like I don't know.

I always feel so fortunate to like get another job.

Yeah, it's just so hard, you know.

It's this business that does no one anyone favors, really.

Like it's so,

I very much have that.

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And now back to the show. And then, like I said, you started and you did a lot of dramatic stuff and you did a lot of, like, huge movies.
You did, I mean, I'd sort of forgotten that you had done Troy all those years ago, which is so crazy. It must seem like a different lifetime ago, a little bit, right? Oh, yeah.
I was so young. Talk about working on that.
That was in Malta, right? Yeah, in Malta. Jason's Maltese.
Yeah. I am.
No. My grandma, yeah, on my mom's side.
Are you being serious? Yeah. Really? I didn't know that.
Oh, my God. Look at his fingers.
Show us your fingers, Jay. Look at those big fingers for hauling nets.
Yeah, so you've got to have them a little bit fatter, so when you pull in the fishnets, you don't cut through to the bone. That's funny.
And I've got webbed feet. If I fall off the boat, I can swim.
Have you ever been there? Yeah, once when I was a little kid. I would like to go back.
Will, you're thinking about going, aren't you, Willie? Yeah? We were supposed to go a couple weeks ago, and then we bailed. But yeah, I am going to go, I think, in the spring.
They used to shoot a lot there. They shot, yeah, they shot there for, you know.
They're going to do more. They are, yeah.
Yeah, they're about to do more. So you go to Malta to do Troy with Brad Pitt.
With Brad Pitt. I mean, how old were you when you did that? I was like 12.
I don't know. I was so young.
I was like 23, and just it was pretty overwhelming. I was extremely shy.
Like I was very, very shy. And I play like a, I played Briseis who gets like captured and thrown to him as like a toy that he can, you know, do what he wants with.
So it was pretty funny. It's a lot of, you know, me tied up like, excuse me, sir, I don't want to talk to you.
No, like, you beast.

You know, like that.

It was very... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Don't you kiss me on the mouth.

You know, and yeah, I was just really shy.

How did that come about?

Like, what was the process of that?

I auditioned.

I had done this movie called Wicker Park,

this movie with Diane Kruger and Josh Hartnett and Matthew Lourd like in Montreal and from there I got an audition for Troy and weirdly Diane Kruger also, she played Helen of Troy, so we like spent two years together back in like, you know, 20 years ago. And, yeah, it was just such a huge insane budget and so many extras and so many it was just, you know, Peter O'Toole was in the movie.
I remember, you know, he would be smoking. You know, he was incredible, you know, this legendary actor and he was very fond of us, of me, and we hit it off.
We kind of got along really well. And I remember him climbing the stairs of, like of the ancient ruins that we were filming at and really breathing really hardly.
Like, you know, like going up the stairs. And one of the PAs saying to him, I think you might have to give up the ciggies, Pete, or something.
And he was like, oh, I should just give up the stairs. Uh-huh.
Yeah. And you're fired.
That's so good. What an answer.
I know. It was good.
One of my dumb questions is how hard is the American accent? I like asking people that. Do you have like a word that clicks you into it? Because you have such a great American accent.
Thanks, pal. We had a lot of American TV in Australia, so I grew up watching Seinfeld and, you know, Family Ties and stuff like that.
So you learned the American accent from my sister. Is that what you're saying? I mean...
You sound a little like Justine. I don't know.
But I had this really hard dialogue once when I did Damages. When I still say it to try, if I'm having a problem, Patty hired 24-hour security for Katie.
Wow. And that's what I said.
Patty hired 24-hour security for Katie. Wow.
What is that? Wait, what is that? What is that from? That's from damages.

So ours are tough.

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security for Katie. Yeah, we just sound sort of efficient, right? Sort of like that.
That is true, right? We sound like a bunch of knobs, let's be honest. That was really, that's my go-to when I'm done.
But I love it. I kind of, if I don't have to do an accent, I feel a bit strange.
Like on Platonic, there was this whole, Nick Stoller really wanted me to be Australian. And I was very much like, I'm not sure, I I just want to you know quite and then anyway I agreed to do it you did Australian but you were kind of there were moments where you sounded not totally yourself yeah a little bit right yeah in platonic I noticed that because I watched it I noticed that yeah uh god you're and you're so good in it Rose you're so so countryman, Seth.
I know, with Seth. We love, and a friend of the show.
We love Seth. You must love working with him.
You've done a few things with him. He's the best.
Yeah, you guys have done a bunch. He's Canadian.
That's what I always say. I know.
He's like, he's, he's a great dude. Yeah, he's a great guy.
Rose, a fan question. Were you, was Bridesmaids as much fun? Oh, are you getting emails from fans right now? Yeah.
Was Bridesmaids as much fun making it as it was as it is watching it because i remember i went opening weekend and i yeah back in the day and um movie i was i it just come out not too many people were talking about it was like the second day it was out or something yeah and i discovered it email i'm the one who told everybody about it. No, and I remember emailing Wig and I'm just like, oh my God, I love that movie so much.
And it was just, and then it just became this huge thing. Exploded.
But it just, it's one of my favorite movies. It's one of billions of people's favorite movies of all time.
But it looks like it was a blast and you laughed every single day. We did.
one of those jobs where it was it definitely did had no idea that it would become such a beloved film at all it was like a you know mid-sized film it wasn't you know it was like yeah what was weird was acting with that many women i must say that was bizarre like the big days when we had all those set pieces and it was just like eight women or you know the all of the girls together. That was really unusual because usually if you're in a film,

it's not often you're the only woman or you're doing a scene opposite a guy

or it's very rare to have that.

And that was, I remember thinking, those days were so fun

because we all really hit it off.

It was like not, it was a very good vibe on set and everybody was really fun.

How often do you and Bobby get to work together? We've worked together a lot, Jason, actually. Yeah, we did Madea together at BAM right before the pandemic hit, which was pretty wild because we saw that kind of coming in, like the audiences starting to slow down and New York starting to shut down and this word about what's happening, is this thing? And then we, you know, had our final show and then three days later the whole of Broadway shut down.
I remember hearing, oh, there's a Marsha Haddad and someone else and then New York just was like the apocalypse. Were you guys in New York? What, during the pandemic? Because me and the guys on the other podcasts, we have like real, you know, heavy-duty opinions about it.
The pland. All the dudes on all the other podcasts.
We got real opinions about what you government. It was such a crazy thing.
We were all in L.A. Yeah, we were all in L.A.
And birthing this thing. Trying to find a way to keep talking.
Guys, I'm sorry it didn't work out that well for you, huh? It's been a real, real failure, hasn't it? It's been a bummer. But, you know, kind of, and I love Bridesmaids too.
I mean, Bridesmaids is so, so funny. And obviously Wig is, you know, creative.
We love Paul Feig. Jason and I have worked with Paul before a number of times and he's such a great dude and always in a suit always in a suit always in a suit always the sharpest the sharpest dress guy in showbiz he had one of those VW bugs when they first came out and you remember the little vase that they have in the front he had a little flower in his vase yeah.
He's such a classy guy. He's a classy guy

and his wife is awesome

and he's just a cool dude.

But everybody

in that movie

and obviously Melissa

and everybody

just such a great cast

and Maya.

So you've done that.

Let's not forget

about Ben Falcone.

And Ben Falcone,

the great Ben Falcone

who we love.

I know.

Now we're going to get

texts from Ben Falcone.

How did you not mention me?

Yeah, we did.

Barely got it in there, Will. I know.
Well, now Ben doesn't have to text us. But then, so you do that.
Then you start doing more and more comedy. But you can also seamlessly go back.
My question for you is, is there something that you haven't, because it feels like you can kind of do everything, is there something that you're like, what's the big thing that's out there that you haven't done yet that you're like i want to do something like x is there something that kind of in the back of your mind that's or stuff they don't call you for yeah why don't they call me for that stuff oh my gosh i mean i i for me i feel like comedy and drama like the stakes even higher in comedy. Don't you think to make something funny is like, it is fun and all that stuff, but it's also, it's hard work in a different way.
You know, like it's. But what's great about you is you never ask for any laughs.
You know, you're always so great about, you know, some people when they, some dramatic actors that try to play comedy they they just sort of like speak louder and make faces you you just keep it all very relatable and grounded and real and your brand of humor i just for me just i love it oh pal yeah sweet uh well that's but what about like playing what about somebody with a limp and a lisp and old age makeup and like that kind of character acting? Guys, Hamlet. Are you excited about that? I would like to play Hamlet.
Hamletta. We could arrange that.
Hamletta. Hamletta.
Let's do it. Hamletta.
In the park. In the park.
In the park. In the park.
Hamletta in the park. Hamletta in the park.
Actually, all jokes aside, Hamletta as a comedy something is a really funny idea. It'dletta and cheese yeah oh my god i think we've we've figured it out guys i'm gonna call cia i'm gonna put it together bobby can play ophelia ophiel how do we can yeah ophelia a little wig and a little dress he'll be cute ophelia but there's But there's nothing that you're like, oh, man.

You don't like sit there and like talk to your friends.

Mate, why am I not getting this?

I imagine that you're always talking to your friends saying, mate. Is there somebody like a historical figure you'd want to ever play

or somebody like in the public eye or some part you're ever like really aching to do?

Well, I did this show, Mrs. America,

and it was set in the second wave feminist movement,

and I played Gloria Steinem, and that was extraordinary,

I must say, and a lot of pressure.

Obviously, she's still reactive, and, you know,

she's extraordinary, but that was really nerve-wracking,

and that was definitely something I tried to get out of

because I was like...

Was that the first time you played a real person?

Let's screw that up.

I have played Duchess de Polignac

in Sofia Coppola's Marie Antoinette.

Oh, wow.

Kirsten does,

but I played a very,

it was a very, very small part,

but she was a real person, yeah.

She was like a good time girl.

Nobody can really reference her

and go, hey, she didn't talk like that.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

She parted her hair on the right side. She's a little more obscure.
Oh, yeah, you're right. No, you haven't heard of her? You haven't heard of her? So were you pressured, like, having to do an impersonation or an accurate one, or did you kind of, like, do your version of her? Well, she's so different from me, where she came from and grew up in sound.
So it was a lot of technical work like that, but it was really fun.

It was really, you know, eventually it was really fun.

And her look is just so specific.

Like her silhouette is so iconic, you know.

So it was just like trying to like get that silhouette.

She's one of those few people that, you know,

immediately kind of who she is.

So just by her silhouette.

So that was really nerve-wracking, trying to kind of get that right.

And the voice and how she walks and all that was very, very specific, but really fun. But I mean, gosh, I'm inspired by so much stuff I see.
Like I loved everything every hour at once. I thought that genre was great.
I'd love to try to, like, that kind of wild genre is something I've never really, I've never been part of. That would be really, it's all about directors, right, guys? It's all about it.
Guys? What do you do to, what's your thing you do to just sort of goof off? What's your downtime thing? Yeah, are you watching like dumb TV to unwind? Are you, Yeah, I mean. Are you a bike rider? Cold plunge.
Cold plunge, guys. Hell yeah.
I do the cold plunge. You do the cold plunge, sure.
I try to do that two or three times a week. Yeah.
And I'm, God, what else do I do? Are you a book reader? Yeah, I do. I'm a book reader.
I'm a book reader. And I'll watch bad TV.
Like Bobby thinks I'm pretty trashy. Like he's like, baby, why are you doing that? Why are you watching that? Yeah.
You ever pull him down into your little cesspool of reality TV? No, he just wants to watch sport. Attaboy.
What's he addicted to? I get caught watching golf all the time and I'm very embarrassed by it. He's got a big live draft he does with like Rod and Ham and all those guys.
They do a big live draft every year. This year they're not sure if they can do it because there's some scheduling issues going on.
So he's deeply unhappy.

He's very unhappy.

That's right.

But he loves the football.

He loves the footy.

And I've grown to like it.

I don't quite understand it, but I'm, you know, I try to get into it.

I think it's good to get into sport.

It's a good, like.

It's a good TV product, that football.

It's designed around advertising, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
It's a good like... It's a good TV product, that football.
It's designed around advertising, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.
You've found it. It's a moneymaker.
Yep. But I've been loving going to the theater.
I saw Goodnight Oscar, obviously, and that's been great to like get back. I just felt like it was so quiet, right, for a while, Sean? And then it feels like that's what Bobby and I loved.
We just love to go to see shows. So that's been really fun to like.
It is one of those great things about when you live in New York just being able to go and see. Yeah, when you live in the city, yeah.
Can I ask, did you, have you had, Sean, have you had people on their phone, texting, phone calls? Yeah. Yeah.
One time. What do you do? Do you do anything? Have you said anything? you said anything yeah one night it was the perfect timing it was oh shoot I can't remember the line some phone was going off and I had a line I told you guys I can't remember what it is but and the line had to do with being quiet and I delivered it straight to that person in the audience wow whatever the line was did they laugh yeah I got a little chuckle and claps I love it some claps cause everybody it's so annoying but right in the middle I Wow.
Whatever the line was. Did they laugh? Yeah, I got a little chuckle and claps.
I love it.

Some claps because everybody, it's so annoying, but right in the middle of the last part where

me and June, the girl playing my wife, Emily, we were crying together and the phone's...

What?

And so we're just like, and everybody in the theater's like, what the fuck? How did you get to go? So it completely ruined the moment. But what are you going to do? Yeah.
Anyway. Anyway.
It's been fun having Sean on the podcast. Exactly.
Rose, it is so fun hanging. Actually, in a lot of ways, it was like, all of a sudden, Rose is just kind of like the fourth.
Yeah, thanks for letting Will letting Will and Sean and I catch up yeah exactly like you're just like it's just like we're just hanging on Rose that's the name of the episode see she's so easy to get along with Sean so Sean and Rose you guys don't know each other right no but you guys would be great friends. I believe that.
Don't you think, Jay?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Well, they're going to have a great time tonight.

Rose is going to go back to the show and go backstage.

Jump on the subway.

Help him ice his hands.

She's going to get there.

She's got a bag in front of her.

She's holding a bag on the subway just in case.

I would love to see Bobby again, too, so we should grab a bite if there's time.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I'll tell him. Yeah, for sure.

Send Bobby our love.

I will.

I will. He's one of the great guys.
And thank you, Rose, for coming and doing this. Thanks, guys.
I'm very, very sad. And I know you're tired.
I was nervous. Talk about nervous.
I was like, oh, my God. Oh, please.
And drink a lot of electrolytes from your food poisoning. I will.
Good advice. Thanks, Doc.
Thanks, Bobby. All right, we love you, Rose.
Lots of love, Rose. Thank you.
Nice to see you guys. You too.
All right. Thanks for having me.
Bye. Bye.
Thank you. Bye, bye, bye.
Isn't she sweet, y'all? She is so sweet. Very nice.
Very nice. She's very nice.
She's such a talent. She's done like 100 movies.
I know. She's been nominated for like Golden Globes, Emmys, for everything she does.
Boy, is she like stunningly beautiful. And she's gorgeous and she's smart as hell and she's, and above everything else, she's so cool and down to earth.
Yeah, she seems like, I wonder, I wonder what the, I wonder, I wonder what's the bad thing? What the blind spot is. Yeah.
Like, what's she doing? She, does she, she probably just got done with the podcast and threw all the equipment against the wall. Maybe.

She's nasty to babies.

I said to somebody recently.

Whenever she sees a baby,

she just triggers something in her.

I said to somebody recently,

I said, I was talking to somebody,

I said, you know,

so-and-so, he's got a real blind spot.

And they go, you know,

everybody's got a blind spot.

And I said, I don't see mine.

Nice.

Jesus, that's very good. Yeah.
Yeah. Anyway.
what i love because here goes sean here i know get it sean get it jesus christ i love her i love her let's hear it i love her sometimes i wonder if she thought that i might go bite Take another bite of my tuna sandwich

while I'm interviewing her.

There it is.

Sean, go ahead.

Was that it?

No, that was fine.

Take another bite of my sandwich.

Everybody can go in the corners now.

Were you going to use bite?

No, I was going to say it's nice she lives in Brooklyn

because it's so near.

Bite.

Nearby what?

Oh, nearby you.

Yes.

Oh, nearby you.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, okay.

Try again.

Well,

Thank you.

Yes.

Oh, nearby you.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, okay.

Try again.

I feel like you did use nearby recently.

I probably did.

You know what I mean?

Hey, what's the name of that one bay in Australia?

Oh, yeah.

Here's the thing.

We forgot to ask her if she spent any time growing up at Bondi Beach.

Bondi.

Not even the word.

No, no, no, not Bondi.

By.

Oh, by.

Oh, wait, wait, wait.

There it is.

Guys, we're back.

Who wants it?

Who wants it?

Sean, you know.

Byron Bay. Bye.

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