"AOC: LIVE in Brooklyn"
(Recorded on Feb 05, 2022)
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Speaker 3 Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3 Is the announcement over?
Speaker 3
No one else? Oh, did he finish? Yeah, he finished. Okay, great.
Okay, that means we can start. 10 o'clock.
Speaker 3
10 o'clock show. 10 o'clock show.
10 o'clock show. 10 o'clock show.
10 o'clock show. 10 o'clock show.
Do we remember what city we're in? Do we remember what what city?
Speaker 3
We're in Brooklyn. We're in Brooklyn.
We're in New York. New York City.
New York City.
Speaker 3 It's a 10 o'clock show.
Speaker 3 People might be a little tight.
Speaker 3 Do you have that? Energy. Do you have that?
Speaker 3
Eye contact. Eye contact.
I got it. Eye contact.
Speaker 3 Eye contact.
Speaker 3 What is the name of the show we're doing? Well, the show is
Speaker 3 Smartland.
Speaker 3 So this is this is
Speaker 3 bananas for us.
Speaker 3 And so to be out here in front of you guys truly is
Speaker 3 super humbling for us.
Speaker 3 Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 Thank you.
Speaker 3
I'm sitting over there. Yeah.
I'm sitting there. Where you want to sit? I'm sitting there.
Speaker 3
I sit in in the middle of the morning. That's okay because you guys are seeing it.
Tonight's my guest, so I get the couch.
Speaker 3 Why is that good good?
Speaker 3
You don't know. Yeah, why is that good news? Yeah, why is that good news? I feel like...
Yeah.
Speaker 3 Jason!
Speaker 3 But I'm telling you, it's a good guest.
Speaker 3 This is our last show here in Brooklyn. Yes.
Speaker 3
And I know, we're bummed to leave, believe me. Well, wait, hang on.
What are you guys doing tomorrow? Yeah, that's a good point. We'll do like a little matinee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3
Oh, we should have done that. Everyone's got to rest tomorrow.
You've got to go to church. You've got to go to
Speaker 3 whatever I do. Yep.
Speaker 3 I like to talk about things that we go through on tour because we've never been on tour before.
Speaker 3
And one of the things is like touring and traveling, we stay in the same room, which is true, the same suite. Yeah, we've got to go to the same place.
I've stayed in the same hotel room.
Speaker 3
Yeah, so and so by so far, everyone we've been to, every city we've been to, out of the three rooms, I've gotten the handicapped room. Yeah.
And
Speaker 3 true story. It's just crazy luck.
Speaker 3
So the shower is level with the floor, and it's a hand thing. I'm like, what? Like, it's no shower head.
Which is
Speaker 3
fine. It's just right.
Yeah.
Speaker 3
Yeah. I saved it for here.
Right. Yeah.
So I complain.
Speaker 3 Why do you want to do it in front of all these thousands of people just to make us feel bad?
Speaker 3 Well, here's the other thing that I didn't talk about, which is, I don't know how you guys feel, but like... Oh, get real.
Speaker 3 No, like,
Speaker 3 when you go out to eat at a restaurant and you order, like, first of all, the waiter comes around and he's like, would you like bottled water or tap water or whatever?
Speaker 3
And if I go, I'll have bottled water. And everybody else will be like, hey, it's great.
And then he brings a glass for every single person.
Speaker 3 And you're like,
Speaker 3 I don't know how it's selfish, but I'm like,
Speaker 3 there goes my bottle of water to everybody else.
Speaker 3
So what part of that bothers you? I want to get down to... Well, just whatever you want.
You order that drink, but know that it was the thing I ordered. Okay, I know, but is it the money?
Speaker 3 No, it's not the money. It's not the money.
Speaker 3
But here's the thing that's even worse. If I order dessert, and these guys know I love dessert.
Angel loves a sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 3
If it's the same thing with those. So you know, like when you're like, okay, does anyone, and everybody's like, nah, no dessert for me.
Nah, nothing for me.
Speaker 3 And I was like, I'll have the chocolate cake, the oozing chocolate cake with the vanilla ice cream. Great.
Speaker 3 And then the waiter comes around, plate and a spoon, plate and a spoon, plate and a spoon, plate and a spoon. And I was like, well, now I'm an asshole if I don't share.
Speaker 3 And I look like a kid, like, I don't want to share my food. But then, you know, you can't win.
Speaker 3
And by the way, the point is, the point is that's happened when the cookies came the other day and you're like, look, there's cookies. And this one's like, I don't want any.
Let me have one.
Speaker 3 So, right?
Speaker 3 And the cookies were next to
Speaker 3 eight plates of food. Okay.
Speaker 3 So let's just get something clear. So if you've listened to the podcast, you know that Jason has a very dangerous relationship with food.
Speaker 3 I just don't eat like, I don't eat like King Arthur.
Speaker 3 No.
Speaker 3
No, but you don't need to talk about it all the time. And I can't wait.
I just find it funny.
Speaker 3 I'm going to pay for your, whatever, your psychiatrist, when they deal with this because it's so fucked up. And we live in a world where everybody's always talking about food.
Speaker 3 And is it gluten-free and a thing and a thing? How many calories?
Speaker 3 Who fucking cares?
Speaker 3 Do you want to know what happens when I eat gluten? It's a disaster.
Speaker 3
It's a disaster. You're so close to tears.
Look at them.
Speaker 3 So I get some food for lunch and then.
Speaker 3
But like, you say what you ordered. Okay, so I ordered a burger and a steak.
Keep going.
Speaker 3
That's true. That's true.
Just split. No, no.
You ordered a hamburger and a steak and a bowl of cream corn something and a salad. And blueberry pancakes.
And blueberry pancakes.
Speaker 3
No, that was a different. That's That's different from the same meal.
That was a different, no, that was a different meal.
Speaker 3 And then, and then these chocolate chip cookies, they said fresh, like, yeah, who's not going to get that? Listen, you don't want to be rude, right? I don't want to be rude. Anyway,
Speaker 3 he shamed, he tried to shame me, which put me on the attack, I will admit to that.
Speaker 3
And then out of spite, he decided to eat it all. Yeah.
That is the thing we had to do. But then you ate some of it.
I had a corner of a cookie just to release the valve.
Speaker 3
You know, I mean, you start to look at something, and then if you build up. I honestly can't believe we're in Brooklyn.
We're talking about this.
Speaker 3 I know, but you are the king, Jason. You are the king of
Speaker 3 nothing from me. What do you got there? Yeah, right.
Speaker 3 And Sean, on the other hand, he will go to people's houses and bring McDonald's with him. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 Oh.
Speaker 3
Show him your trick if you're constipated. I just do that.
Get up.
Speaker 3 I do this. This works, guys.
Speaker 3 And then
Speaker 3 seven times and things start to come out. So you held it at three there.
Speaker 3 It's a whole thing, guys.
Speaker 3 You don't want to share a room with these two ever. And food, it's tricky for you because also you get real snacky at night now.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Well.
Well, listen.
Speaker 3
Well, let's go ahead. You gummies.
She heard it. Gummies.
Well, guys, it's legal. It's legal now.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 I mean, why do I have to hide that? It's just.
Speaker 3
Guess what? It's like going down to the corner and buying a sixer a beer. There are more dispensaries in California than Starbucks.
Yeah. You know? It's true.
Speaker 3 Yet I still will not tell my kids that daddy enjoy the gummy. But like,
Speaker 3 don't tell them.
Speaker 3 But it's mostly for the CBD. You know,
Speaker 3
the inflammation and whatnot. Yeah.
Sure. Inflammation.
What's amazing is people used to get, like, I feel like when we were going up, people get high.
Speaker 3 Like at my age, you get high and you watch, like, the song remains the same, Led Zeppelin, or you'd know what it is.
Speaker 3 Yeah. And then, like,
Speaker 3 Jason takes a gummy and watches MSNBC.
Speaker 3
Wait a minute. I love that.
There's something so super
Speaker 3 weird and sad about that. No, but
Speaker 3 Jay got me on them and they really work and they're very healthy.
Speaker 3
Steve You Sweeten Gummies. Yeah.
Steve.
Speaker 3 Oh. And he will, the only time, the only time I will find golf interesting
Speaker 3 is
Speaker 3 he will put it on and I'm like, what is this? Bluff. 10 minutes later, I'm like, this is amazing.
Speaker 3 It's legal here, yes? Yeah.
Speaker 3 God, it's like, let's get on with it. What's crazy is how much about like our eating habits and stuff they obviously know from listening to the podcast.
Speaker 3
What else are we going to talk about? We're not journalists. We're not smart.
No. We're just people that eat and sleep like everyone else.
Speaker 3
It's so true. It's so boring.
Well, again, we do want to say thank you for allowing this to happen and that you guys
Speaker 3 and that you listen to the podcast at all.
Speaker 3
For us, it was such a goof to do it. And then to be able to do this, it's it's such an incredible thrill.
So, we're really excited to be here with you guys tonight.
Speaker 3 Very excited. Very excited.
Speaker 3
So, speaking of smart, which we are not, ergo smartless. Sure.
Right?
Speaker 3 We decided to, we decide to, every once in a while, invite somebody really, really smart.
Speaker 3 Okay. Most of the time, they're just our fancy, famous friends that are an easy booking for us because
Speaker 3 they're there having gummies and watching MBC with us.
Speaker 3 But tonight,
Speaker 3 folks,
Speaker 3 dash,
Speaker 3 stuff's.
Speaker 3 I need to write my intros because I'm not smart nor young.
Speaker 3
All right, listen, stuff's been a challenge for the last few years. But there are heroes out there that are working tirelessly to try to make it better.
We got one of them here tonight.
Speaker 3 She's one of yours, New York. She was born in the Bronx, educated in Boston, lives a lot in D.C., and in fact, at 29, she was the youngest elected ever to the Congress.
Speaker 3 Guys, welcome, Alexandria Castrio Clotte.
Speaker 3 No way.
Speaker 3 Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 This is you. This is you right there.
Speaker 4 My goodness. Hi, everyone.
Speaker 3 You guys are
Speaker 3 a hero.
Speaker 3 Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 3 Right? I mean,
Speaker 3 see, this kind of stuff blows our mind.
Speaker 3 Here we are, just three ding-dongs. Crazy.
Speaker 3 You can't talk about golf with us?
Speaker 3 I wish you brought on somebody with opinions.
Speaker 3
Right. Golf.
We're going to get them tonight. We're going to get them out of her.
I got questions and stuff like that. Well, first of all, are you currently in town or did you come up for this? Or
Speaker 3 how often do you get to live in your home city versus living in DC?
Speaker 4 So this is one of the most common questions I get asked. It depends on the year.
Speaker 3 Off to a great start.
Speaker 3 Tell me about your digs in D.C. Do you guys all have to stay in the same kind of place? Is it like dormitories? Do you get a budget
Speaker 3 for an apartment?
Speaker 4 Okay, so if you're a normal...
Speaker 3
See, guys, I'm going to ask shit you never even thought to ask a congressman. Do you take the express train to DC? No, it's going to be better.
It's going to be better than DC. Are you on a gummy?
Speaker 3 I will not just go out. No, but are you?
Speaker 4 It's like semi-legal in New York.
Speaker 3 Got me.
Speaker 3 Is it really only semi-legal?
Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, it's decriminalized.
Speaker 3 So what does that mean?
Speaker 4 It's decriminalized, it's medically legal, and it's like on the way to becoming.
Speaker 3 So, you can buy it legally. If you smoke it, it's illegal.
Speaker 4 No, no, you can own it.
Speaker 4 Can you use it? You can use it. It's decriminalized, but decriminalized, you can't buy it in a shop yet.
Speaker 3
Right, all right. We're on our way.
Yeah, or you can buy it in an alley.
Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 Or a park. Or we're a park.
Speaker 3 Or a park. Or a park.
Speaker 3 Or a park. Okay, so
Speaker 3 your place in D.C.,
Speaker 3 do you get a budget for housing or you got to fund that yourself? No, this is.
Speaker 3
No, no. I want to know, too.
I have 10,000 questions I could ask you because I'm the dumbest person on the left.
Speaker 4
Well, no, it's. Wait in line.
The detail, like, it is crazy. It is really interesting because most people who get elected to Congress are independently wealthy before they run.
Speaker 3 I want to get into that too.
Speaker 4 So if you're a normal person and you get elected, like there's no housing allowance, so you have to pay two rents. And
Speaker 3 your place at home and your place in zoom.
Speaker 4 Yeah, or like when I got elected, my job right before was that I was bartending. And there's.
Speaker 3 What was the bar? Shout out to?
Speaker 4 Shout out to the taco shop on Union Square, which is still there. Really?
Speaker 3 Hey, some people know it.
Speaker 3
So you have to pay for two places. Yeah.
And you're doing it when you go there, you're doing it on a bartender's salary. It was the last salary you were.
Speaker 4 Yeah, so basically there's kind of this weird period where after you get elected,
Speaker 4
your first paycheck comes at Congress, you get paycheck monthly, okay? You get paid once a month. Yeah.
And so your first paycheck comes at the end of your first month in Congress.
Speaker 4 So like, how do you tide your cell phone?
Speaker 4
Yeah, like these are things that, and a lot of your colleagues, like, don't have to think about it. Right.
So it's they're like these interesting little challenges.
Speaker 3 And are you.
Speaker 4 But I rent. I rent in New York and
Speaker 4 in D.C. I'm a tenant, okay.
Speaker 3
And you're not allowed to take money from constituents to help you out. I'm thinking I'm putting it in terms of like college athletes and stuff.
Like you can't take money from
Speaker 3 sponsors and
Speaker 3 alumni and things like that in college.
Speaker 4 No, I mean in theory you're not.
Speaker 3
Exactly. All right.
All right. And do you have to drive yourself?
Speaker 4 I drive, yeah. Or sometimes sometimes I'll fly too, or sometimes I'll take the Amtrak, which is what I do a lot, too.
Speaker 3
Now, what about... Yeah, shout out to Amtrak back there.
Amtrak.
Speaker 3 Good for you.
Speaker 3 Now, what about...
Speaker 3 And Metro North, too, while we're at it.
Speaker 3 I mean,
Speaker 3 fuck it.
Speaker 3 All right, so now,
Speaker 3 did you want to do this from an early age?
Speaker 3 No, or was it when you were working with the Bernie Sanders campaign, you saw some stuff that you thought, well, maybe that's yeah, well, you know, I never thought that I would be elected to public office.
Speaker 4 I also didn't think that
Speaker 4 someone like me or with a background like mine could really get elected to public office. And that young, too.
Speaker 3 29. That's the youngest ever, right?
Speaker 4 It's the youngest woman ever. I mean, you had like.
Speaker 3 Yeah.
Speaker 3 I mean, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 How old were you when you started to get involved and you did your first primary or whatever?
Speaker 4 You were like 27? I was 27 when I started renting.
Speaker 3 That's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 I mean, 27, Sean, you were making millions of dollars a year on Will and Grace.
Speaker 3 You know, like everybody's got humble beginnings, right, Sean? And by the way.
Speaker 3
And still renting. Yeah.
No, no.
Speaker 3
No. You blew through it.
Oh, I blew through it, yeah.
Speaker 3 Wait, I want to know, like, I don't know how any of it, like, I'm the, like I said, the dumbest person in the world, and how, how, all.
Speaker 3
Nobody disagrees. I know.
Entire audience.
Speaker 3 Nobody.
Speaker 3
All we get from whatever news source we get is how... I'm probably jumping way ahead, but I just want to get...
Please, let's get all over the place. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 All we get from the TV and wherever we get, our news, whatever you watch or read or whatever,
Speaker 3 is that it's always at us at a standstill nothing gets comp nothing gets accomplished and we hear the same thing and how long is this going to go on when are we going to find somebody or something or anything that can make us meet in the middle I think both sides are sick and tired of it you know like what is that thing yeah
Speaker 4 well I mean I think the thing is is what we need to take a look at is that there's a lot of meeting in the middle. It's just about the things that we don't like.
Speaker 4 So there's a lot of bipartisan bipartisan consensus around militarism and around Wall Street bailouts and around
Speaker 4 helping out corporations and shorting the middle and working class. There's a lot that goes on that passes, that gets done to advance that.
Speaker 3 But is it newsworthy or something, or we don't hear about it?
Speaker 4 I think, I mean, we don't.
Speaker 4 If we do hear about it, we don't like it.
Speaker 4 But there's a lot that goes on that, you know, I just don't think
Speaker 4 it's really about what are we doing to affect people's lives and to improve people's lives in a way that's felt.
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Speaker 3 So then, let's say there's a subject that you would like to pull one of the Republicans over and meet in the middle and have some bipartisan consent on and then have a piece of legislation.
Speaker 3 How does that happen? Do you call somebody who you think might be the most pliable on the other side and say, hey, let's have coffee? Or is it
Speaker 3
text? Yeah. Or do you come up up with a mic? Like, how does this, how does this part work? Like, let's meet in the middle.
A little bit of all of it.
Speaker 3 Do you say, try this gummy and then let's talk about it?
Speaker 4
A little bit of all of it. Sometimes it's, sometimes, you know, there are group chats.
Like, that's, oh, yeah, that's a thing. Oh, put me in one.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 Oh,
Speaker 3
I just, how bad would you love to just infiltrate and just start lobbing wrong? Wait a minute. But sometimes.
That's a dick pic. Yeah.
Speaker 4 But sometimes, you know, the
Speaker 4 house floor that you see on C-SPAN or at the State of the Union, that's where we go to vote every day. And so it is kind of like a high school cafeteria.
Speaker 3 When you see you guys getting clocking next to one another, you're not talking about sports or whatever. Like you're saying, hey, I want to talk to you about this.
Speaker 4 I mean, a little bit of views.
Speaker 3 You're talking about policy and things you're trying to do, and this should, maybe you should make it more like a musical number. Like make it, you know what I mean? In the cafeteria.
Speaker 3
Five, six, seven. Sean? Five, six, seven, eight.
Well, I'm making bills.
Speaker 3 Wait, wait, any time. Yeah, you don't have to ask him twice.
Speaker 3 So
Speaker 3 then it's,
Speaker 3 do you have to worry about the texting being possibly exposed by somebody? Like,
Speaker 3 is there an encrypted chat thing for congressmen?
Speaker 4 I mean, I feel like
Speaker 4 some folks, they'll use.
Speaker 3 Some people.
Speaker 4 They'll use, I mean, they use the same things that everybody uses, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 4 They'll use,
Speaker 4 they'll either use iMessage,
Speaker 4 Signal, WhatsApp, like whatever it is people use.
Speaker 4 Or again, it is like a high school cafeteria where sometimes you're talking to somebody and someone will be like, well, you know who you should talk to? That guy over there. And it's very
Speaker 4 informal in that way.
Speaker 3 Is it as rough? Because we obviously do really well there. What's that?
Speaker 3 The informal part? I know. I think I'd do really well there.
Speaker 3 Yeah,
Speaker 3 I think you would.
Speaker 3 formal, and then you're on group chats.
Speaker 3 Yeah. And you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 It really is a lot of schmoozing.
Speaker 3 It's a lot of schmoozing, Jason.
Speaker 3 Oh, wait. What is it? Can I do it? Yeah.
Speaker 3 So
Speaker 3 when people are trying to sort of like figure out, since it's every
Speaker 3
two years for Congress as opposed to six years, senators? Yes. Okay.
And four years for president, right?
Speaker 3 Oh, my God.
Speaker 3 I'm Canadian and I know that. I know, I know.
Speaker 3 It's a constant turnover, so how do you keep track of who might be a pliable member of the other side? And the sort of long-winded question, which I'm prone to do, associated with this, is,
Speaker 3 tuck in, just lay back. Why aren't you answering your own question while
Speaker 3 you ask a simple question and then let her answer it?
Speaker 3 When you got there,
Speaker 3 it was so exciting for a lot of people for many, many reasons. Did you find that
Speaker 3 you were either really embraced or not based on all the press coverage that you got the second you got there? Was it helpful or hurtful?
Speaker 4 It was, in terms of internal dynamics, it's actually hurtful
Speaker 4 because what happens is that you're sitting right next to a person and it's a really bizarre experience because, so there's something called a cloakroom.
Speaker 3 Oh, here we go.
Speaker 4 And
Speaker 3 Harry Potter! Yes!
Speaker 3 There's a lot of Harry Potter out there. It's not Harry Potter shit.
Speaker 3 no, but he's right. It does sound dope as hell.
Speaker 3 So
Speaker 4
you have the House floor, you know, like what you see in the State of the Union. But there are these rooms attached to the House floor.
Yes.
Speaker 4 And there is a Democrats cloakroom and there's a Republican cloakroom. And so you go in through the cloakroom and there's like, you know, there's rules about being on the house floor.
Speaker 4 You can't, you can't wear coats. And so you put your
Speaker 3 during the day, put your cloakroom.
Speaker 4 You could put, I mean back chewing gum wait wait wait why can't you wear a coat on the Senate floor or on the on the on the house floor there's pretty strict dress codes yeah you cannot wear a coat yeah you can't wear a coat why
Speaker 4 you can't wear a coat you can't wear denim you until very recently women could not wear sleeveless dresses
Speaker 4 yeah it's just you know it's old school like that and and so they have these things called cloak their cloakrooms where back in the day
Speaker 4 kind of you know, in the 1800s and whatnot, members of Congress they would drop their cloaks there.
Speaker 4 There used to be chests where you put it up and you pull out huge bottles of booze and put the booze in the thing
Speaker 4 before you went on the house floor.
Speaker 3
They don't have those anymore. They don't have those anymore.
Booze, cubby.
Speaker 4 Yeah, it was like little cubbies.
Speaker 4 But that's how it was. And so that's like this informal socializing space.
Speaker 3 Jimmy Jordan must love the house floor.
Speaker 3 Can guys go sleeveless?
Speaker 3
That's an excellent question. That's sorry.
That's a question from our friend Justin Thoreau.
Speaker 3 Asking for a caller, JT from New York.
Speaker 3 We get it, man. Your arms are really good.
Speaker 3
All right, now, so again, jumping all over the place. You talk about the floor and then the rooms off to the sides off.
It makes me think about, I want to go to January 6th for one second.
Speaker 3 I have a question about why did they all leave once they got in? Is it because they couldn't find you guys?
Speaker 3
There were places where you guys were shuttled off. They were hiding in the cloakroom.
In the cloakroom. No, but like...
Breaking the blue.
Speaker 3 But was that, was that? Because obviously old Mr. What's his face never called them off, so they didn't leave because of that.
Speaker 3 Did they leave because you guys were properly stowed away?
Speaker 4 Well, the thing that's interesting about the architecture of the Capitol is that,
Speaker 4 like Harry Potter, like Hobhorse,
Speaker 4
it's very Byzantine. It's actually really hard to navigate.
And so they couldn't find the halls and the places that you needed to navigate to where member offices were.
Speaker 4 And so they kind of like busted in and they found some of the main offices, like Pelosi's office and House Leadership's offices there.
Speaker 3
Everybody was gone. Everybody was taken away.
Like that, to me,
Speaker 3 that's the unsung heroic story of all this.
Speaker 3 Because somebody, and it was probably the Capitol Police, did great work of putting everybody away.
Speaker 3
And it was like people went in to rob a bank, and somebody hid all the money, and they were like, well, fuck it, I guess let's go home. There's no money here.
Yeah.
Speaker 3
That was a crazy, crazy day. And I think we all remember.
Or was it, Will? We all remember.
Speaker 3 Well, we all remember where where we were that day. Jason, do you remember where you were? I was with you on the golf course.
Speaker 3 Why'd you tee yourself away? Well, why do you get on your right horse about it with me? Well, because you said it was a crazy day. Like, well, we get it.
Speaker 4 It's funny that you talk about it because, and it's funny that you bring it up kind of after, you know, discussing relationships with
Speaker 4 members and Republicans and Democrats, because right before I left, so Congress was in session this week. And so right before I left, they literally had the last vote of the week.
Speaker 4 And I was just filling something out. So
Speaker 4 most of the folks were kind of fouled out.
Speaker 4 And
Speaker 4 some Republicans, I mean, members of Congress in general, like kind of funny people.
Speaker 3 Are they?
Speaker 3 Pretty unusual. Are they aware of that? Yeah.
Speaker 4 And so the thing that's interesting is like some Republicans are just like, the reality in front of them is like completely divorced from the rhetoric and like all this other stuff that sometimes they go on TV and say it's really weird.
Speaker 3 And does it feel a little high school-ish where like you know there are there are people there that are obviously I know you don't get along with, they don't get along with you.
Speaker 3 They can go nameless, but I mean like what happens when you pass her in the hallway, you know, like, I mean, yeah, but I mean, is it, but is it, is it really not so dissimilar from high school where you either choose to pretend they're not walking by or is there something, is there a snotty look?
Speaker 3 Is there a snotty aside? Is there ever like, hey, you know what? Let's hang out this weekend.
Speaker 3 We can fix this together. And, you know?
Speaker 4 Yeah, well, I think a lot of it is like high school. And the reason for it is that I think there's just a certain dynamic when you get like 400 people in like a similar space.
Speaker 4 And like the bet, they're literal bells.
Speaker 4 When the votes call, the bells ring it's like high school in a lot of ways like just structured that way so some people really operate that way high school yeah yeah so high school is
Speaker 3 this place
Speaker 3 is it up a few floors why do they call it high you know what we don't have time but we're gonna bubble back
Speaker 4 um and so some people conduct themselves that way Some people like actually want to get to know each other.
Speaker 4 But yeah, I mean, some, I mean, listen.
Speaker 3 But like a high school, if it was a person X and person Y that everybody knew they didn't like each other,
Speaker 3 and then if on Monday everyone came back to school and the word got out like, oh, you know, over the weekend they talk and they're all good, it would blow the high school's mind and everybody would come back together.
Speaker 3 So I'm just saying, I mean, I don't know, you know, it'd be a really cool thing. I, you know, I know you're willing.
Speaker 3
What would you say? What would you, I always hear this, well, if you don't like something, call your congressman. Yeah.
Does that that really happen?
Speaker 3 Do you guys have like voicemail that you go through every day?
Speaker 4
It actually, okay, it depends on who the member is. Some of them don't care, but some of them really, really do, especially members of Congress who are in swing seats.
They're actually very sensitive.
Speaker 4 to the volume of those calls, except it has to be from their constituents. So if you're just calling somebody somewhere else, they're like, I don't care what someone from so-and-so thinks.
Speaker 4 They're really resonant with their voters. So if their voters are really upset and flooding their phones,
Speaker 4 that is something, especially if you're in a tough seat, that does really resonate with some of them. But others, I mean, and senators,
Speaker 3 I don't even know. But if you get a call from 718,
Speaker 4 you're answering it. Yeah, 718-347.
Speaker 3 347.
Speaker 4 212s, maybe a few moves.
Speaker 3 917-917.
Speaker 3 917.
Speaker 3 What is it about
Speaker 3 something I have not really understood is a lot of these folks that are in positions like yourself could make a whole hell of a lot more money back in the private sector. Okay.
Speaker 3 And yet to keep their seat, I'm obviously talking about a lot of folks on the other side, to keep their seat, they have to twist themselves into these ethical knots to hold the party line when you can kind of tell they probably wouldn't want to.
Speaker 3 Like you were saying earlier, they say privately, like
Speaker 3 so, why are they staying there earning
Speaker 3 what I think it's
Speaker 3 senators make?
Speaker 4 All members of Congress make $174,000 a year.
Speaker 3 Right, and I bet you a lot of those who are a lot of them very skilled attorneys could make X number of millions a year.
Speaker 3 So are they really staying there and holding their job because they have some ideology that they're so passionate about or they are so altruistic, they want to help, you know,
Speaker 3
the public. I don't get the sense that a lot of them do on the other side, I'm sorry to say.
And so, why are they there when they could be making all this money back in their district?
Speaker 4 Well, a lot of them still do make a ton of money because there's a lot of insider trading that goes on in Congress.
Speaker 3 There we go. What?
Speaker 4 And, okay, you're not supposed to.
Speaker 3 Not on my watch.
Speaker 4 You're not supposed to, like, say that term.
Speaker 3 See, she's having some of the Scotch guys. We're getting it.
Speaker 4 Here's what I'm going to say: the spirit. Like,
Speaker 4
you know, because technically, folks will say, you know, technically, this is not a crime. Technically, it's not.
In spirit, it is. Like, it should not exist.
Speaker 3 Because they're privy to some information that's coming down the pike and they buy stock in that company.
Speaker 4
Exactly. And so it is legal as a member of Congress.
It is currently legal. And I've been trying to change this.
Fuck you.
Speaker 4 As a member of Congress, it is currently legal to,
Speaker 4 I can, I have access to classified briefings, you can get things down the line, and you can buy stock in individual companies. And it can be within the purview of the committee that you sit on.
Speaker 4 I mean, it's bonkers. So it should not be legal, and we've been working to make it illegal.
Speaker 4 And I actually think the increased public attention very recently is gonna get us some traction on this issue, not gone blood.
Speaker 3 Yeah, how is that still there?
Speaker 4
That's crazy. And so, not only that, but A, there's that.
B,
Speaker 4 there are plenty of members who are so wealthy and get elected that they don't have to, like, a salary is nothing to them.
Speaker 4 It's really, there's no trade-off here. I find the psychology of it very interesting, too, because I ask myself the same question.
Speaker 4 I'm like, because the thing is, like, it's a real pain in the butt, you know, you lose your anonymity, it can be grueling, people are yelling at you.
Speaker 3 So if you have so much, your life is threatened,
Speaker 4 why do this?
Speaker 3 Because you walk into a restaurant and they're like, right this way.
Speaker 4 And I do think, no, but like, I think that there is a psychology to that where there's a certain kind of power and influence that money can't buy.
Speaker 4 And there's like a prestige that I think money can't buy that is part of the psychology of some people.
Speaker 4 Not everybody. There are legitimately
Speaker 4 plenty of members of Congress who are just salt of the earth,
Speaker 4 incredible, amazing human beings, Jamie Rask and Mark Takan. Love Jamie Raskin.
Speaker 4 Wow.
Speaker 4 Amazing. So, you know, it's not everybody, but there absolutely is that element to it.
Speaker 3 So you're spending 99% of your time being super duper smart, being incredibly generous with your time and your occupation and everything.
Speaker 3 What do you do to be a dumbass?
Speaker 3 What is like
Speaker 3 are you watching below deck?
Speaker 3 Are you chewing gummies like crazy?
Speaker 3 What do you do to be stupid?
Speaker 4 Okay, so I, you know, because work is so crazy and like emotional, et cetera, I have to watch like dumb television.
Speaker 3 What's the favorite dumb? Please say Ozark when you say that.
Speaker 3 No, like, you know,
Speaker 4 fun, funny stuff.
Speaker 4 And I play.
Speaker 3 You know, Murderville, though, is a new show.
Speaker 3 I'm actually excited about that.
Speaker 4 I'm legitimately, I saw the first commercial for it like a day or two ago, and I'm like, oh, this looks really funny.
Speaker 3
That show's rad. No.
By the way, seriously, watch Murderville.
Speaker 3
Very good. Don't watch it streaming on Netflix right now.
It's not a big deal. It's really, really good.
It is good. It is good.
Thank you. You see the way I take the high road, guys? I know.
Speaker 3 Shay. So she's, because she's going to answer what her favorite dumb show is okay
Speaker 4 um oh man well i don't know i mean i've i've watched like covid um selling sunset was one of them yeah we've watched that selling sunset selling sunset i also play video games
Speaker 4 uh pc games so league of legends
Speaker 4 like yeah no one knows what that is um
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Speaker 3 Sometimes I like to watch great comedies. One of my favorite
Speaker 3 is a film they made a few of
Speaker 3 that one of my friends, a mutual friend of ours, is in.
Speaker 3 No, no.
Speaker 3 And this guy who is in one of my favorite comedy movies, comedy trilogies,
Speaker 3 it's not him.
Speaker 3 Oh, wait. But they think him anyway.
Speaker 3 Wait.
Speaker 3 It is him.
Speaker 3 Ladies and gentlemen, our friend wanted to say hi, and we're only in town to do this.
Speaker 3 Dudley Cooper!
Speaker 3 You get in the middle.
Speaker 3 Sit down.
Speaker 3 Sit it
Speaker 3 By the way, Jay,
Speaker 3 I had no idea.
Speaker 3 I did, I did, I did.
Speaker 3 No, I saw it.
Speaker 3 Okay.
Speaker 3 That was so
Speaker 3 It worked. You ain't doing right.
Speaker 3 He's testing my words.
Speaker 3 Okay. So Bradley, so Bradley, Bradley called, and
Speaker 3 he said, I hear, he said,
Speaker 3 he said.
Speaker 3 He said, I hear you guys are coming to town. Let's all hang out because
Speaker 3 the four of us are very, very good friends.
Speaker 3
And he said, well, we're only in town for a few minutes. He said, well, let me come by and say hi before the show.
And I said, well, no, then they're going to know the guests.
Speaker 3 I said, the only time we got is on stage, so please come out and say hi on stage.
Speaker 3 I just.
Speaker 3 Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 I just want to say one thing, and then I'll leave.
Speaker 3 You're not leaving. You're not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 You're not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 I've known all of these people. Like, I met Will in 1998, and then I met Sean through Alias in, like, 2000, and then I met Bateman, and these guys have all been gunslingers for 20 years.
Speaker 3
You know, we say, like, who's the quickest guy in the room? Jason Bateman. Who's the funniest guy in the world? Will Arnett? Who's the funniest guy ever? Sean Hayes.
So I've been you for 20 years.
Speaker 3
I've been you for 20 years. So it's so unbelievable that they're sharing their skill set with you.
How lucky are we?
Speaker 3 It's just the truth, man.
Speaker 3
Will and I lived together in Venice, California, and it was like, I used to watch this every day. It's like crazy.
So, hang on, let's get into that.
Speaker 3 Pardon me, sir.
Speaker 3 So, because
Speaker 3 you're going to find this interesting. So,
Speaker 3 tell us about you two living together in Venice. What was that all about?
Speaker 3
So, Bradley, Bradley lived in the back of this property. He lived in the back house.
How old were you?
Speaker 3 We were 10.
Speaker 3 We were very young.
Speaker 3 I mean, I play 38 now, so
Speaker 3 do the math at the most.
Speaker 3 At the most. At the most, 23.
Speaker 3
I remember the first time I met him was at your place, at your apartment. Playing cards.
Yeah, playing cards at your apartment, and that's when you lived in the back.
Speaker 3 And I was like, you were like, meet my friend Bradley, and you answered the door with boxers on it. I was like, hello.
Speaker 3
But that's how you always answer the door, right? Hello. Hello.
That's right.
Speaker 3 And so Bradley lived in the, we had this building in the back, and we had our friends
Speaker 3 We lived with Ron Rifkin and his wife
Speaker 3 in the front.
Speaker 3 And then Bradley and I shared this building in the back and our doors were connected, were open, and we overlooked, there's a property we overlooked at Hopper's house. Oh boy.
Speaker 3
And we used to see him sometimes in the alley. That's right.
Driving that old Jaguar. And then it was so weird.
It was California, man. Come on.
Speaker 3 And then we were doing Arrested. We were doing on the same lot that you were doing.
Speaker 3
Kitchen Confidential. Kitchen Confidential.
Kitchen
Speaker 3 But the other thing is, like, we've all been through it together. You know what I mean? That's really the thing.
Speaker 3 We were starting out, we used to talk about our dreams, and will we ever be able to fulfill them? And he and I, I mean, it's like, it's actually very emotional.
Speaker 3 We were backstage just thinking, you know, if you just take the time and you work hard, it can happen. It is possible.
Speaker 3 And the best part about it, though, is when you do it with people you love.
Speaker 3
And that was just so gratifying. Bradley's sick of this story, but Brad.
I mean, yes, for sure.
Speaker 3 100%.
Speaker 3 I mean, this is a good thing.
Speaker 3
Bradley's sake of this story. He was at my house.
This is years and years and years ago. And he's like, Hey, I got called to do this musical on Broadway.
Will you play through the songs for me?
Speaker 3
I was like, Sure, what are you doing a musical on Broadway for? He's like, I don't know. I go, You got like 18 movies coming out.
He's like, I don't know if any of them will work, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3 And like, literally, I said, Well, we're working on this stuff, and he's singing, and I'm like, You did, this is great, we ate lunch, whatever. And then, like, a month later, the hangover came out.
Speaker 3 I'm like, You're such an asshole.
Speaker 3 Yeah,
Speaker 3 Yeah, it's funny, you know, because we do get to do like, this is so bizarre that we're doing this in this way, but it is all about, you remember, we were talking backstage about remembering where you came from and how hard it was and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 And Bradley, he directed A Star Is Born.
Speaker 3 And,
Speaker 3 I mean,
Speaker 3 incredible. And we were in Vegas and Bradley was unveiling the trailer and I was on stage and I got to introduce him.
Speaker 3 Yeah, he was the MC for all of the Warner Brother Brothers media which is the hardest job he was like the yeah and Bradley came out and we did this thing and he played this trailer we sat there with this crowd not unlike this and we sat at the edge of the stage and this trailer played and it was it was emotional man it was really wild and it's it's so great to be able to do that with people you love
Speaker 3 well I can only imagine and that's how a bill becomes a law
Speaker 4 how much deeper and gratifying it is to be able to celebrate a friend's victory when you know like how what they went through to get that you know you're not meeting someone at the peak when you've met someone when when they were just you know at their lowest sometimes i'm glad you mentioned teen wolf too because
Speaker 3 I took a lot of guts.
Speaker 3 Will, Will, Will. She never said it.
Speaker 3
She didn't say it. She didn't say it.
Forget it. Forget it.
She never said it. For it, forget it.
Forget it. Forget it.
Speaker 3 You auditioned twice for that movie.
Speaker 3
I got a callback. I got a callback.
Sean turned it down twice.
Speaker 3 Who are some of your gal pals in D.C.
Speaker 3 like we were coming up that you're now pals with you guys are coming up as young politicians that you hope to grow old with there and I want to know that answer and then who's your favorite Republican okay okay
Speaker 3 good question
Speaker 3 I like that question yeah yeah
Speaker 4 so I mean of course there's Ayanna Presley Rashida Tslee
Speaker 4 like just absolutely incredible but also you know A lot of my friends from when I was working in restaurants and bartending
Speaker 4 downtown, like those are my ride or die as well.
Speaker 4 And
Speaker 4 those are still the people around me that are most, some of the most important people.
Speaker 3 If you were going to go out in DC and really release the valve, because it was a tough week, who's the first call?
Speaker 3 Okay.
Speaker 3 Release the valve.
Speaker 4 Okay, I think he's another.
Speaker 3 I had some addiction problems, guys.
Speaker 4 So I think
Speaker 4 another congressman from New York, Mondair Jones,
Speaker 4 he's really fun.
Speaker 4 You know, there's just,
Speaker 4 I mean, there's just a lot of folks who are.
Speaker 3 Who would be the most likely to give you a high five?
Speaker 3 Who's the high five?
Speaker 3 Who's a high five? I bet it's a Republican.
Speaker 3 Yeah, I think Republicans.
Speaker 3 Because Mitch McConnell seems super easy.
Speaker 3 He does seem like a fun guy.
Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 So as far as Republicans go, high fivers, Tim Burchett of Tennessee, he's a high fiver.
Speaker 4 There's some folks who are high.
Speaker 3
He's the hugger. There's the one who's a hugger.
I'm a hugger.
Speaker 3
I'm a hugger. You're a hugger.
You're allowed to.
Speaker 4 I try not to be a...
Speaker 4 I always, you know, make sure I do the vibe check before I hug, but I do like to hugging.
Speaker 3
Bradley, would you, could you ever run for office? Yes. Come on, come on.
Come on.
Speaker 3 It's funny you say that because I was going to maybe say it if we had a chance to talk, but what you've decided to do, really, what you've decided to do with your life is the most selfless thing one can do.
Speaker 3
You know, everybody talks about it. It's a little trill.
No, but we talk about how much we believe in something, and we talk to our friends who will agree with us.
Speaker 3 But to get out there and say, I'm going to sacrifice my life, I agree with you, my privacy, my well-being potentially, for what I believe in the greater good of all of our in our country, it's like,
Speaker 3 that's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 So,
Speaker 3 yeah.
Speaker 3 Having said that, what are your favorite movies?
Speaker 3
I have to say to that. And start with his, and then we're going to go all the way around and all the way around.
All the way around. And Bugs.
And then we're going to go with
Speaker 3 all your favorite movies.
Speaker 3 I'm going to get the favorite movies.
Speaker 3
Start here. It's blue.
Start it. Yeah, we must.
No, I have to say, though, we kicked off this whole tour in D.C.
Speaker 3 And, you know, again,
Speaker 3 yeah.
Speaker 3
And, you know, I went there once with my husband Scotty. We just were there so super fast.
We didn't get to see anything.
Speaker 3
But this trip with these guys, we actually walked around and we got those little bird bikes that we we drove around like idiots. They're scooters, not scooters.
Scooters, sorry, scooters, scooters.
Speaker 3 And so, you know, again, idiot, I was just like, wow, I was so humbled to be.
Speaker 3 I'm sure everybody says this, but just not being there, not visiting and not knowing anything about it, it's like, wow, there's so much history and so much respect once you go there and see it.
Speaker 3
Yeah, man, it's the capital, dude. It's just incredible.
No,
Speaker 3
Sean kept going. He kept going, he's on a bird's place.
This is where they make the laws.
Speaker 3 This is where they make, and he's like, literally, they make the laws there. They make the laws.
Speaker 3
Right? They make, these are the guys. And we're like, yeah, we know, man.
I'm like this.
Speaker 3
Total true story. You'll see it in the dock.
You'll see it in the dock. And I literally was like, oh, look at that.
And then a wall.
Speaker 3 No, I just want to.
Speaker 3 Could you ever run for office? Look at me, of course.
Speaker 3 By the way,
Speaker 3 I'm sadly, sadly, by the way, I saw,
Speaker 3 I've been alive now for, I don't know, five or six presidents, and one particular president, I won't say who it is, I saw win an election. I was like, if that guy can win, I literally can win.
Speaker 3 Yeah.
Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 I mean, I'd vote for Sean.
Speaker 3 Let's go. Sean for president.
Speaker 3 Somebody.
Speaker 3 Somebody needs to make, please one of you make hats that say, I'd vote for Sean.
Speaker 3 I know I'm Canadian.
Speaker 3 That was so accusatory.
Speaker 3 You can ask me. I'm both, by the way, so suck it.
Speaker 3
Wait, smarty pants over here. Oh, boy, don't get him riled up, guys.
I have, I have been really well behaved. I know.
I can feel it, though. I can feel it.
Speaker 3 What is the one law that you're working at, or one that you, more than anything, that you're really, really passionate about that you really want to see go through?
Speaker 4 I mean, there's so many. Medicare for all is a big one.
Speaker 4 I mean this like
Speaker 4 janky healthcare system that we have in the United States
Speaker 4 the fact that we are you know the so-called most developed wealthiest country in the world and we also have the highest maternal mortality rate of the developed world. I mean this is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 It's kind of embarrassing.
Speaker 4 It absolutely is embarrassing and I think COVID also showed a lot of that too. Like the whole rest of the world is like y'all live like that?
Speaker 3 Like really?
Speaker 3 It's exciting though when you see something get done that's immediate either through executive action or
Speaker 3 something similar to how did you speaking of which how did you get she's responsible she get over a billion dollars was sent to reimburse the families of people who lost somebody during COVID for the for the funeral costs.
Speaker 3
Yeah. Like you were behind that.
Like that's incredible. And it was done like that.
Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean that was that was really gratifying and I think it's a perfect example of governance and public governance working the way that it should work.
Speaker 4 So when COVID first hit, you know, it hit New York City.
Speaker 4 It was one of the first, New York City was one of the first places that got hit super intensely. And out of all of New York City and out of the entire country,
Speaker 4 out of the top 10 most impacted,
Speaker 4 most hit zip codes in the country by COVID, five of them were in my district. And this was at the onset of the pandemic when people still didn't even know what was going on.
Speaker 4 We didn't know how it spread. We didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 4 And what we saw was that there was a neighborhood in our district, in our community in Elmhurst, in East Elmhurst in Queens, and they were saying, you know, this is hitting us really hard.
Speaker 4 And it's hitting frontline workers harder. It's hitting, you know, people whose jobs are public facing, food service workers, hospital workers, you know, retail workers, like it's hitting us hardest.
Speaker 3 And we can't even afford to bury the people that have
Speaker 3 no what? But this is, and
Speaker 3 I guess probably a lot of people want to know also,
Speaker 3 was the baby real? In the hangover. Sorry, this is for Bradley.
Speaker 3 In the hangover. I didn't mean American sniper.
Speaker 3 American sniper isn't a sniper. Why would you bring that up?
Speaker 3 Why would you bring that up? I like both. I like both.
Speaker 3
Can't get over. I love American Sniper.
Who had money for the baby? You know, I don't want to tell you guys.
Speaker 3 I moved his hand. I mean, I made it work.
Speaker 3
Thank you, bro. But you recognized that.
You put it up front and got it done.
Speaker 4 Yeah, so folks in our community, they said, listen,
Speaker 4 this is like a huge cost, and we're going to need help. And so we took that.
Speaker 4
I brought it to the House Democratic Caucus. I brought it to the speaker.
I brought it to our senator, you know, Chuck Schumer, to like anyone who was listening.
Speaker 4
I was like, we need to do this. And it took a little while.
You know, it wasn't immediate. It took a lot of work.
But we were able to authorize, in total, $8 billion
Speaker 3
to reimburse any of these funds. Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 For anybody who lost someone due to COVID.
Speaker 3 Amazing.
Speaker 4
It's not means tested. There's no crazy, you know, there's no income thresholds, nothing.
Like, this is impacting all of us. We're all in this together.
We're all going to help each other.
Speaker 4 No questions asked.
Speaker 3
Well, we don't want to take any more of your valuable time. You can continue, please, the incredible work that you're doing.
Thank Thank you for taking a little time out, hanging out with us.
Speaker 3 Ladies and gentlemen, Alexandria Casio-Cortez! Thank you guys!
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Speaker 3 we couldn't make his deal but uh he did say he'd stop by Bradley
Speaker 3
You could do it. You're very familiar with the show now.
I love the show. Right, you've just gotten caught up on all the episodes
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Speaker 3 You guys, thank you for... Were you done, Angel?
Speaker 3 No, I wanted to talk about it. I was still talking to
Speaker 3 Bradley. I got a heart out.
Speaker 3 Where are you going?
Speaker 3 Go ahead. It's better be good.
Speaker 3 I wanted to say about AOC that it was, first of all, I can't believe you got her, Jason, to come down here and chat with us. Yeah.
Speaker 3 And yeah.
Speaker 3 I mean, mean she's a game changer, a one-of-a-kind, you know, like you said in your intro, just a one-of-a-kind.
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And I got nervous meeting her because, you know, she's super smart and I didn't want to ask dumb questions, but I did anyway. Yeah.
But she wasn't judging you. I thought that you were.
Speaker 3 She was doing that back there, right? You think so? Yeah.
Speaker 3 Yeah,
Speaker 3 no, she's we're very, very like, look, whether you agree with her or disagree with her, it's undeniable that the people, as Bradley, you said, that are taking their time yes at the very least choosing to spend their like like like frontline workers which I think we have some here tonight perhaps yes
Speaker 3 I mean it's like thank you guys and you know
Speaker 3 We know that we're, you know, a safe distance from smart
Speaker 3 and we're just doing dumb chat crap that hopefully you guys enjoy listening to when you're in the middle of doing stuff that's really important. So,
Speaker 3 you know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 No.
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Speaker 3 We feel, and, you know, even, you know, we can have people like our guests tonight. And no matter where you fall on either side, we can all come together, you know, and on a night like this in a bite
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