"Simon Pegg"

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Speaker 2 Shotty. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Sean.

Speaker 2 Sean. Sean.

Speaker 1 Wait, you guys, this is crazy that you're speaking in British accents. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 Boy, what are you doing? No, I know, mate. I know.
Wait, Sean, are you in London? Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 Well, Jason's not. Neither of you guys.

Speaker 2 Both of us terrible.

Speaker 3 No, no, that's great.

Speaker 2 Jesus.

Speaker 1 It's going to be so insulting to our guest, but wait, let's get.

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 6 Is our guest British?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Well,

Speaker 2 what made you think that? The 50 times that he went like, I don't know.

Speaker 2 Wait, what were you going to say?

Speaker 2 Shawnee, next week, I know we shouldn't do this on the podcast, but dinner in New York. Yes, Tuesday.

Speaker 3 Guys, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 You're not doing anything. You're staying in.

Speaker 2 I'm home. Yeah.
Tuesday. 100%.
In New York dinner, right? Let's hold on, listener.

Speaker 4 We're making plans.

Speaker 4 You guys have your Rolodexes out? You want to wait for that?

Speaker 2 Enter it? Oh, I'm sorry. Do you want to talk about golf?

Speaker 4 No, I just, I'm not going to make plans with my buddy on the listener's table.

Speaker 2 Hey, what are the guests?

Speaker 1 Jay, why don't you come out and join us?

Speaker 2 Finally, come out.

Speaker 4 No, because I'm married. I've two children, and it would just be too disruptive.

Speaker 2 But they won't go to New York. To New York.
To New York.

Speaker 2 I already tried to get him to come to New York, and he just gave a classic Jason. No, I don't want to

Speaker 2 hurt my feelings.

Speaker 4 And I apologize for that. I've had long discussions with my wife over the last 12 hours.

Speaker 4 And what I need to work on is checking in with other people that are associated with the plan that might not see it through the prism of one.

Speaker 4 So maybe ask them what they would like.

Speaker 6 Right.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, because I just think, well, they're asking my opinion. So it's just about me.
How do I personally, well, my personal opinion is, no, I wouldn't like to do that.

Speaker 4 But if I check in with you, I might change that, you know? Right.

Speaker 2 If you go like, or you maybe, and you can, even before you check in, you can go like, hey, maybe this is something that somebody else wants.

Speaker 2 And it's not just, I don't want, I want, I don't want, I want. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And you go like, there's a we in this world. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Yeah. No, it's a great note.
And I think I'm learning it just in time at 54.

Speaker 1 Jay, do you want to go out to dinner next week?

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, thanks.

Speaker 2 Old dog new show.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to be in town, but if you guys want to zoom me in from the table,

Speaker 2 that would be a ride. I'd love to watch you guys.

Speaker 1 Wait, I want to say one thing. As you know.
Smartless Media launched Bad Dates, which is out right now, with Jamila Jamil, which is fantastic.

Speaker 2 Hilarious. It's a great show.

Speaker 1 But we have a new show. And Just Jack and Will launches June 22nd.

Speaker 2 Well, I wanted to say that so that you didn't have to promote your own show. I don't know.

Speaker 5 No, sorry.

Speaker 2 It's Will. It's our show.
You're doing our show.

Speaker 4 Will, who's the you and Jack Black are doing a podcast?

Speaker 2 No, you tell me.

Speaker 2 It's the characters Jack and Will from Will and Grace. So it's Sean Hayes and Eric McCormick doing.
We're doing your rewatch. It's Jack and Will.
And it's a rewatch podcast of Will and Grace.

Speaker 2 Sean, I'm getting to it. I want to say it so you don't have to.
So you can take in all the praise you deserve.

Speaker 4 And do you want to to know what I'm most excited about with that podcast? Is that

Speaker 1 saying no to coming on?

Speaker 4 My daughters. Saying no to coming on.

Speaker 4 Actually, listen, I think this means I'm coming on. My daughters,

Speaker 4 your good friends and mine, Rennie and Maple, 16 and 11, have never seen Will and Grace. And they're...
bananas about you. So I just keep thinking, wait till they see you do your thing.

Speaker 4 And so this is going to give us a great chance to start watching the show together. Yeah, that's a great question.
And then listening to the podcast, doing the rewatch, and then coming on.

Speaker 4 Maybe I'll bring them both on. And

Speaker 5 we'll give you notes. That would be so fun.

Speaker 4 Because you guys aren't locked yet on those episodes, right?

Speaker 2 If we get notes. We're recording them now.

Speaker 1 We've recorded a bunch of

Speaker 4 the Will and Grace episodes. If we give you notes, you can go back.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, yeah, we can go back and reshoot. We can reshoot stuff.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 It'll match.

Speaker 1 It'll match. By the way, it's the 25th anniversary of Will and Grace this year.

Speaker 5 It's a silver anniversary. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 25 years ago.

Speaker 2 You know what, Shawnee?

Speaker 2 JB and I saw Jimmy Burroughs yesterday. Yes.
Oh, no way. Yeah.
Where? At playing golf. He was playing with Al Michaels, our other good friend.

Speaker 3 He said, say hi to Shane.

Speaker 4 I think you guys

Speaker 4 had a job on the show.

Speaker 2 He said, Shane, I loved working with Shane. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He was the best.

Speaker 4 I'll never forget him. He said,

Speaker 2 yeah. He said, I'll never forget him.
Shane's the best.

Speaker 2 And by the way, he said, I'll never forget him. We said, who? And he said, what?

Speaker 2 Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 So, Tracy, that's the director of Willing and Grace.

Speaker 2 Well, he's a friend and, you know,

Speaker 1 he directed every episode of Will and Grace.

Speaker 4 If you've not listened to his episode, just know he's, yes.

Speaker 1 So I want to get done with this so we can get to our guest because he's been so kind to wait. So it premieres on June 22nd.

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Speaker 1 And it's super exciting. And it's really, really fun.
I'd never seen, watched the show really after being on it because my excuse is like, I was there.

Speaker 1 like i you didn't watch it when it was on for america i didn't really i mean i remember like bits and pieces but eric watched it a little too much so it's kind of it's really fun to to do the show with them anyway it's just jack and will yeah our guest today makes me laugh so much he's actually born the same year as me which means he's born the same year as will

Speaker 1 53 year old man from england yes i consider him british royalty since he's such a major figure in the comedy world and sci-fi which as you know is royalty to me he undoubtedly has both spielberg and tom cruise on speed dial.

Speaker 1 Oh, I know. But his greatest achievement is reaching the holy grail of nerdum status.
That's a real thing, or the nerd trifecta, as some people call it.

Speaker 1 This happens when you have portrayed prominent characters on Doctor Who, Star Trek, and Star Wars. Guys, it's the brilliant Simon Pegg.

Speaker 2 I knew it was going to be Simon Pegg. Simon! I knew it was Simon.
I knew it.

Speaker 2 Will, you didn't have that, Will. I did.
I knew it was something.

Speaker 3 Why did you say it?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I was just, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 Isn't that crazy you guys started talking in British accents?

Speaker 2 Listen to those pipes. I thought they were really good.
Listen to that. No, you didn't.

Speaker 2 Simon.

Speaker 2 I know. Good lord.
Hey, Simon. Hey, man.
Great to see you. Hey.

Speaker 2 You too. I'm such a fan of this podcast.
I feel kind of strange being on it.

Speaker 2 I've never met. You absolutely have.

Speaker 2 I have. Oh, then, Sean, we've never met.
And I just want to say I'm a big Sean Hayes fan.

Speaker 1 Well, likewise, I'm massive.

Speaker 2 By the way, before we get going on all of that, I want to say,

Speaker 2 Simon, I see over your right shoulder Spaced,

Speaker 2 which was the show that you and Edgar did. And I want to talk about Spaced.
I loved, as you know, and I've told you, I've embarrassed you before, how much I loved Spaced.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 for a number of reasons, but walk me through a little bit, because that was your guys' first, like a big thing that you all got to you and Edgar and Nick Frost. And Nick, too.

Speaker 2 Nick wasn't really an actor before that, right? Simon, I remember you telling me this story once years ago. No, he was a waiter.
Yeah. And

Speaker 2 I moved to London with my girlfriend and she went to work at this Mexican restaurant called Chiquito's. I don't know if you've ever eaten Mexican in London.
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 They're known for it.

Speaker 2 She came home from working.

Speaker 4 I think it's where guacamole started.

Speaker 2 It actually is where it's invented. Cricklewood.

Speaker 2 And he's really funny and he wants to be a stand-up. And I was kind of dabbling with stand-up at the time and and we sort of uh we met and and he was the funniest, is the funniest human being I know.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he tried stand-up, it didn't really fit for him. He couldn't quite sort of convert his hilariousness into a routine.

Speaker 2 But we came to, we got spaced, and I said, look, well, come and be in this TV show with me and we can hang out. And he had this character, he'd come up with this sort of, this army guy called Mike.

Speaker 2 And we wrote it into the show and convinced the producers that he was an actor, which he wasn't. And I think there was another guy called Nick Frost on our sort of equity.

Speaker 2 So they looked him up and said, yeah, checks out. And

Speaker 2 that's how he got into the show and how he started his. Wow, that's amazing.
And then, and then you, what happened with you and Edgar? Like, how did you guys get that show off the ground?

Speaker 2 We, Jessica Hines, and I, who wrote it, we, oh, yeah, Jessica, I had worked with Edgar before, and he was like the only guy that we could imagine who could sort of make the show. And

Speaker 2 he came along and we put it together, and he showed us all his kind of storyboards and stuff. And we were kind of just blown away because, you know, Edgar's got this incredible vision.
And

Speaker 2 we took it to channel four. And they like, this was a really, we were so lucky, you know, it was a time when you could sort of just pitch something and they go, yeah, sure, let's do it.

Speaker 2 And we were on right after friends. And, you know, it was this strange sort of,

Speaker 2 you know, slightly

Speaker 2 surreal show, but it really found its audience. And

Speaker 2 that was where the idea for Sean kind of came about and where our sort of relationship began. So, yeah, that was the beginnings of it all.

Speaker 4 Do you know the number of things that you, Nick, and Edgar have done together?

Speaker 2 I could probably count them, but it might be boring for the podcast.

Speaker 2 Less than a dozen. Two.

Speaker 2 Probably, well, we did space and then three Cornetto films, and then we did Tintin.

Speaker 2 Tintin. So, yeah, like five or six, I guess.
And we've done other stuff as well.

Speaker 1 I wanted to ask you about, because I can't, you know, your credits, you know, like, talk about fandom.

Speaker 1 I'm like a creepy stalker fan of yours because you're in everything I love, right? So I, you're like the fandom you're associated with by default.

Speaker 1 How often do you check? Because you're not on social media, like you're not on anything. How often do you check in to see what's being said, if anything, or do you avoid the internet?

Speaker 1 Because you're, you know, you have those iconic stories that you constantly tell from everything you're working on, but you have no outlet to put them.

Speaker 1 So people must just be like, you know, salivated.

Speaker 2 Well, I've got on Instagram now. Oh, you do? And I follow, I follow Smartless.
That's more

Speaker 2 you guys.

Speaker 2 What? Yeah. What are they great? I was kind of upset when I said that.
What are we saying?

Speaker 2 Oh, well, follow me back.

Speaker 4 What have we been saying on there?

Speaker 2 Terrible.

Speaker 1 But do you ever look at what people are saying? Or you're like, I can't, I don't care. I'm not.

Speaker 2 Sometimes. I was on Twitter for a while and then I left that because it just felt like it just felt like a party where everybody was drunk and angry.

Speaker 2 I sort of checked out of that. I've kept the account just for sort of info.

Speaker 1 Twitter's like my house growing up, just drunk and angry.

Speaker 2 I remember you and Nick, and the reason I got the person who showed me how, who actually set up my Twitter account,

Speaker 2 physically did it on my phone, was Pete Sarafinowich. Oh, was it Pete?

Speaker 2 Yeah. And we were in Vancouver, and I kept, and I was arguing against it.
It was like 2009, yeah, 2009 or 100. What month?

Speaker 4 What month?

Speaker 2 It was actually.

Speaker 4 No, no, Simon, he knows this stuff.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 It's no joke. I'm not joking.
Just give him two seconds.

Speaker 6 He'll drop it.

Speaker 2 It was February 2010.

Speaker 2 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It probably was.

Speaker 2 It probably was.

Speaker 4 It converts me every time.

Speaker 2 It definitely was.

Speaker 1 Simon, did you... So you're born in 1970 on Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 Before I get into all your career stuff, because I can't wait, do you have any crazy story about hooking up on Valentine's Day, which is your birthday, and it turning into something?

Speaker 5 If it's a bad date, save it for our sister podcast.

Speaker 6 Bad dates.

Speaker 2 No, I spoke to Jamila about doing that, but

Speaker 2 I don't have any bad dates, really. I couldn't think of anything that would make the podcast fun.

Speaker 2 The mailman who delivers my birthday cards thinks I'm a stud, obviously, but otherwise, you know,

Speaker 2 that's hysterical. All right, so you're doing it.
I thought bad dates was more about like December 7th, 1941. Jesus.

Speaker 2 That's huge.

Speaker 2 That's so stupid.

Speaker 1 That is so dumb.

Speaker 2 That was a terrible date.

Speaker 1 Wait, okay, so you're born, you were born Simon Beckingham, but why pegged? Tell me about that.

Speaker 2 Well, my mom remarried. My parents split up.
My dad, I kept in touch with my dad,

Speaker 2 which was good. There's a dad.
Sorry to gloat, Sean.

Speaker 2 See, I do listen to the podcast.

Speaker 4 Simon, I think your dad just had a slower car.

Speaker 1 That was all.

Speaker 1 By the way, if your dad runs into my dad, let me know.

Speaker 2 They're good friends.

Speaker 2 When my mom remarried, I remember, I was seven and I remember thinking, I don't want to have a different name to my mom. And she married Richard Pegg.
And I just made that decision.

Speaker 2 I thought, I want to have the same name as my mom. I don't want her to come into my school and then to say hello, Mrs.
Beckingham, and her have to correct the teacher.

Speaker 2 I remember making that little calculation when I was a kid, which is a strangely adult. Well, do you have a Sean? I was going to say this.

Speaker 2 Sean, didn't you one time say on the podcast, hey, to anybody out there, if you happen to run into my dad, make sure to reverse and run into him again?

Speaker 1 by the way we were going to talk about this a while ago it's total sidebar sure my dad showed up to good night oscar in chicago what what yeah i knew that isn't that crazy well he but i he didn't come back stage or anything i didn't see him well i guess he didn't like the show he probably hated that's very no isn't that what you're supposed to infer no no then he showed up on my sister's facebook and said i love the show yeah but he said something weird He said something, he said something like, Oscar Levant, just like I remembered him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But no, like, that's my son.

Speaker 4 Oh, so he was like humble bragging.

Speaker 2 Not my son, just like I remembered him.

Speaker 2 That's my son.

Speaker 2 He's got a clearer memory of Oscar Levant than he does of you. He doesn't remember you waving from the window.

Speaker 2 You should show up to his house as Oscar Levant and go,

Speaker 2 how have you been?

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Okay, so wait, this is what's so cool. I love this.
I did this exact same thing as you, Simon.

Speaker 1 So you started acting at like 16, you went to Stratford upon Avon, but you just studied English literature and theater. But as a boy, you would listen to John Williams

Speaker 1 scores.

Speaker 2 And I used to listen to them all the time.

Speaker 1 And so did my husband, Scotty. I'm obsessed.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's the greatest.
It was one of my most sort of

Speaker 2 my proudest moments, I think, ever of my career was with Tintin, was seeing my name come up on the screen and then music by John Williams. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 Because for me, it was, I used to listen to it and imagine myself in movies. And it was the soundtrack to my childhood.
You know, I loved him. I still do.
He's the most incredible composer.

Speaker 1 We go, Scotty and I go every year to the Hollywood Bowl to watch him conduct with the lightsabers. Did you have ever been there?

Speaker 2 It's insane.

Speaker 2 I wish I had. Oh, you got to come.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to alienate Jason.

Speaker 4 Fuck, man. Inverted again.
You know, John Williams plays a few holes of golf every day at four o'clock.

Speaker 2 Still?

Speaker 2 He's 91, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 He drives down the hill in his golf cart and he hits it a few times, times, and that's his routine.

Speaker 2 And he said, we saw him about two weeks ago, and just out of barely, just barely hear him say, if you see Sean Hayes, Tom, he's an asshole.

Speaker 2 That's interesting. We weren't sure, but we were pretty sure that's what it was.

Speaker 2 Tell me just tell him to stop nerding out about my music. He sounds like a fucking loser.

Speaker 2 Stop fucking mentioning it.

Speaker 2 Stop identifying his entire fucking life based on my fucking music to my movies and get a fucking life and have some real life life experiences other than talking about fucking nerd movies.

Speaker 2 Wow, he had a lot to say.

Speaker 2 Was that in between homes? That's all I caught. He kept going.

Speaker 1 Wait, Simon, do you have a favorite John Williams score?

Speaker 2 The Empire Stripes Back.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes, of course.

Speaker 2 Without a doubt. It's my favorite.
I love that. I love that.
What is that held up as one of the all-time greats in that, in that sort of, in the John Williams canon? I think so.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know it's just it's got so many sort of classic themes on it and you know it's the first time we heard the imperial march and and and han and layer and all these sort of incredible it's just a beautiful beautiful score yeah that's pretty much mutually agreed that that's the best of the star wars movies right absolutely i think so yeah and there's been what nine I can't remember now.

Speaker 2 There's been a lot.

Speaker 1 Well, 77, it was 80.

Speaker 1 Simon, you and I and Will were like 10 or 11.

Speaker 2 Can I just say this? Can I just say, I hope they make nine more?

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 2 They probably will. They are.
They are. I saw the first one in 1977.
I don't know if we've talked about this with somebody else. I saw the first one four times in the theater.

Speaker 2 It's the only time I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 And then, and then I stopped because, you know, I got older.

Speaker 2 Hey, so

Speaker 2 let me just. Okay.
So I mean, I want to go back. Hang on.
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 I turned eight. And once I turned eight, I was like, what am I fucking doing? I'll never get laid.
Oh, my God.

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Speaker 2 Simon, I remember

Speaker 2 before we met, which was many, many, many moons ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Galaxy. If you remember, I picked you up somewhere and you were staying at L'Hehmatage and we went over there and had

Speaker 2 the first time we hung out.

Speaker 2 I remember I was, you know, because I'd seen, Edgar had told me about arrested development

Speaker 2 and I'd resisted it for a while.

Speaker 2 You know, when you're

Speaker 2 sort of in comedy and you're- I know you've resisted it forever, Sean, but I was like, you know, you kind of resent stuff when you're told it's good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You've got to see this show. It's incredible.
And I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll give it a look. And I sort of didn't

Speaker 2 have a dozen of those. Eventually, I kind of, I begrudgingly watched it.
And I just sort of like, you know, sometimes as a funny person, you watch comedy like somebody watching a physics lecture.

Speaker 2 You just sort of nod and smile like,

Speaker 2 this is it. This is it.
This is, why the fuck do anything ever again? This is too fucking good.

Speaker 1 Jason and I, at one of our Sunday dinners, sat down and pretty much

Speaker 1 almost all the same things neither Jason and I have seen. It's like a list that we both made.

Speaker 4 It's not because I don't want to. It's just feel overwhelmed to get started.

Speaker 2 Well, sometimes it feels like homework, which is above. But it comes with a slight pressure, doesn't it? It does come with pressure.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and you have shows that are really good that our mutual friends have done, and you're like, fuck, I should watch it. Everybody says it's great.

Speaker 2 And part of you is like, I don't want to watch it all, so I don't want to have an opinion in case I run into them.

Speaker 2 It's like, it's like going to see somebody on Broadway, and then after the show, you got to go up and you got to be like, Yeah, you were great,

Speaker 2 Sean, like, whatever, just for lack of another

Speaker 2 name. But you've got to say, whatever the name of the person is, you've got, but wait, Simon, Sean was in, by the way, if you're in New York, go see it.
I'm not joking.

Speaker 2 I have to say, I'll be there. I'm going to be.
I'd love to come, Sean. Honestly, I'm going to be there with Mission in July.
Oh, great. Come.
Oh, he's incredible. You're

Speaker 2 But Simon, we first met, and I had just seen Sean of the Dead. And that movie for me stands out.
And I've watched it recently with my kids and it holds up because it's legitimately great and funny.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and I found it so inspiring at that time. I felt like you guys were doing something that not a lot of other people were doing.
You were.

Speaker 2 It was smart and it was silly and it was, and it was really tough.

Speaker 1 Whenever I saw, right, whenever I saw you, Will, whenever that that movie came out it's all you talked about to me all the time

Speaker 2 for real for real for for real I

Speaker 2 still hold it up as such a great

Speaker 2 every moment of it the writing is really good it's really well shot it's really well directed it's really incredibly active like every single moment of it man and that must have been such a huge turning point for you

Speaker 2 Sean of the dead yeah it

Speaker 2 absolutely was because it you know we we got some some sort of exposure over there and um and and a lot of sort of cool kind of directors came into bat for egger and and we managed to get a theatrical release over there thanks to i think it was thanks to ain't it cool news you know harry knolls' uh website oh wow and so yeah and so coming over and i you know not not to sort of bat it back to you guys but i i've i kind of felt the same thing about arrested you know it was like these guys we always say nick and i always say people know something if you if you see someone who gets it who is kind kind of you feel like they're the same kind of person as you we say hey they know something and it was it was you guys were just doing something that was just so that and and uh it was it was inspirational and i always and also sure not to leave you out i always thought on watching will and grace because you always kind of you know not to embarrass you but you all stole that show i thought for sure and

Speaker 2 i always thought

Speaker 2 I'm sure he knows something because Will and Grace is a big, you know, it was, it was a network comedy. It was massive.

Speaker 2 You know, it wasn't sort of an alternative kind of thing, even though it was an incredibly progressive show. And then you popped up on like Port Landy or something.
And I was like, yes, I knew it.

Speaker 2 I knew he knew something. Yeah, I love that show.
By the way,

Speaker 2 it's so funny you say that. And it's so true, Sean, you did steal that show all the time.

Speaker 2 Amongst a bunch of scene stealers, you were a scene stealer.

Speaker 2 I remember Nick, Nick has one of those, I hold Nick as one of those guys. He's so naturally, Frost, he's so naturally funny.

Speaker 1 And one time. And And just really quick for Tracy, Nick Frost is a comedian actor.

Speaker 2 She collaborated with Hot Fuzz, Paul, The World's End, Your Bestie.

Speaker 4 Hot Fuzz, my God.

Speaker 2 Yeah, great movie. Hot Fuzz.
And we were one time standing outside this restaurant in L.A.,

Speaker 2 and I was having a cigarette with Nick, and there were these two like... Really douchey guys, I don't know if this story will translate, standing right there.
And they were just having the worst L.A.

Speaker 2 conversation. As we went inside, Nick goes, all right, talk to you later.

Speaker 2 It's complete strange. He didn't even know them.
Didn't know them. We hadn't talked to them at all.
And as he's opening the door, he just looked at them and went, all right, talk to you later.

Speaker 2 So funny. Fuck me.
And it just, it was so naturally funny. And it made me laugh.
Like driving home, it made me laugh. Like I kept thinking about it.

Speaker 4 Will, you love that dry sense of humor, that British sense of humor.

Speaker 4 Was there a lot of that up in Toronto at being

Speaker 4 a British colony at one point?

Speaker 4 Maybe kind of fancy.

Speaker 2 Maybe. I don't know.

Speaker 2 I was always a fan. I know I've been accused of being an Anglophile for many years, and

Speaker 2 I do enjoy, I just think that there's something to, you know, when I was 17, I saw Withnail and I the first time and I was like, this,

Speaker 2 this is the kind of shit I like. And it's, and I don't know, it's always just seems smarter.
And again, I know so many funny, smart, amazing American people.

Speaker 4 But the style of that just never asks for a laugh.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 6 You know, right.

Speaker 6 No, you're right.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just go right. I heard you once describe your Nick's relationship to my fair lady or something.

Speaker 2 Like, what's the comparison?

Speaker 2 What is that?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was like this kind of like rough around the edges oik.

Speaker 2 And I was this university graduate who'd moved to London from Bristol and found him in a Mexican restaurant and taught him in the ways of, you know, high culture.

Speaker 2 Sure. I mean, Nick was, you know, he was like...

Speaker 2 He was.

Speaker 2 He would be the first to say he was like a little thug.

Speaker 2 But he was just so gifted, so funny in a way that still to this day, he makes me laugh. Like, you know, when I listen to you guys, it reminds me of my relationship with Nick and Edgar just because

Speaker 2 it just runs on laughter and it never gets tiring or boring. It's just, it's constantly hilariously funny.

Speaker 1 Well, and respect, like, like massive respect. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We had a big dinner years ago. By the way, you're going to fucking freak out when I tell you this.
You guys are going to be so bummed out because I think it was November 2005.

Speaker 2 And I mean, I can't. In London.
Remember, we had that big dinner with a bunch of us, Simon, and it was me and Amy and you guys and

Speaker 2 Darren Brown, the magician. Yes.
Do you remember that? Yeah, of course. That was a long time ago.
And I think I, did I tell this story about

Speaker 2 saying whether or not you could be hypnotized? Did I tell this hypnotized?

Speaker 2 So we were at this big dinner and Simon and

Speaker 2 I guess Darren wanted to come. He was a fan of arrest development because he liked, he's a magician or whatever.
And there were a bunch of guys there. Who else is there?

Speaker 5 He wanted to meet an illusionist.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he did. Joe Cornish, I think, was there.

Speaker 2 A bunch of them.

Speaker 2 And Pete.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I asked around the table, I said to Darren Brown, the hypnotist, magician, whatever, I said, can you tell if somebody's really susceptible to being hypnotized and being persuaded?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I said, everybody go around the table and say whether or not you think you, because he sort of said, yeah, I can kind of tell. And so everybody went around the table.

Speaker 2 And I remember I said, like, I definitely could be persuaded to do probably anything.

Speaker 2 And we went around, and everybody had different answers. But I remember Amy Polar at the time going, there's no way.
You can't get me. Just in that very Amy way, it's like, no way, there's no way.

Speaker 2 Very Boston. Like, no way, no fucking way.
You can't persuade me anything.

Speaker 2 And we're at this really fancy restaurant in Mayfair. The check comes and Amy looks at me and goes, we got this.
And I go,

Speaker 2 we got this. It's like 3,000 pounds.
I'm like, you know, it's an expensive dinner. She's like, no, no, no, we got it.
So we're in the cab on the way back to the hotel. And I go, he got you.

Speaker 2 He convinced you to pick up the check. And then she looked at me and she goes, do you think? And I go, fuck yeah.
It would be great if she turned to you and said, wait, I paid for the check.

Speaker 2 Did I ever tell you that, Simon? No, I didn't either. Yeah.
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 I find it, he's weird to be around Darren, you know, because you're constantly worried that he might do something strange to your mind. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, simon your your level of astonishment is greater on the sets of star trek or mission impossible as far as execution scope of production

Speaker 2 probably mission impossible yeah right just because of the stuff that tom cruise does you know that we are we are witness to on the day of him jumping off a cliff on a motorbike or whatever oh yeah i mean that just sort of is genuinely terrifying right and your stunt crew and safety crew and second unit all that stuff that just must be like rocket scientists.

Speaker 2 Yeah, hundreds of, you know, cameras on.

Speaker 2 When we did the bike stunt, which is in Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1, there was a take he did where there were cameras mounted on the bike he was riding.

Speaker 2 So when he jumped off it, the bike just sort of cartwheeled away and caught him every time it spam.

Speaker 2 And then they had to go down into the bottom of this quarry and find the bike and retrieve the cameras and find which ones were still working.

Speaker 2 And sure enough, they picked up this incredible footage of him just sort of like disappearing upwards as the bike

Speaker 2 is crazy.

Speaker 4 The degree of difficulty on all departments of those movies is just

Speaker 2 so crazy. By the way, you know, I just found yesterday that I've actually got a second unit.
Oh, good for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So it was super tiny.
You just discovered it.

Speaker 2 But it counts, but it counts.

Speaker 1 So wait, listen, I want to talk about.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Mission Impossible 3, JJ just called you out of the blue. J.J.
Abrams just called you out of the blue and offered you the part because of Sean of the Dead, right?

Speaker 2 Because of Sean. Me and Edgar were writing hot fuzz, and the phone rang, and it was JJ Abrams.
And

Speaker 2 he just sort of literally said, hey, do you want to come and be in Mission Impossible 3? And I said, yeah, okay. Yes, please.
Yeah, okay, why not? And I didn't know. Let me finish.

Speaker 2 I'm just at my mate.

Speaker 2 Let me finish.

Speaker 2 I was kind of in the same, in the same way he emailed me about Star Trek and just said, do you want to play Scotty?

Speaker 2 I think he got bored of looking for someone and just thought, I get that other guy that I got last time. Wow.
I mean it is unusual to be part.

Speaker 2 It is unusual to be part of two such big kind of iconic franchises that are very different.

Speaker 2 Unless you're Harrison Ford. Unless you're Harrison Ford, that's right.
Yeah, Harrison Ford is the king.

Speaker 4 You're the British Harrison Ford.

Speaker 2 I've heard that before.

Speaker 2 Thank you. Would you say your biggest regret was

Speaker 2 hiring Bateman for Paul? That was a huge regret. Let's get to Paul.
I was listening to Haider the other day on the podcast talking about those jalapeno shooters, and you weren't there that day.

Speaker 2 It was me, Nick, and Haida, and they gave us these tequila shots with jalapeno juice, and we shot lava the next day. Oh, my God.
I'm glad you weren't there for the sake of your bottom.

Speaker 2 He doesn't remember where he was yesterday, so that's the good news. But you, do you remember when we gave you a Teen Wolf 2 poster at the annual rap gift? I do.
You all signed it.

Speaker 4 I do remember that. I was very warmed by that.

Speaker 2 Where is it? Where is it, Jason?

Speaker 5 I saw that.

Speaker 2 Binned. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Binned. Immediately binned.

Speaker 2 Jay, get that framed. How unbelievably rude.

Speaker 4 No, I think it came framed.

Speaker 2 Maybe it was framed. But then you unframed it.
I thought you told me you unframed it.

Speaker 4 You just sell it easy.

Speaker 2 You use the fruits and nothing else.

Speaker 2 Wait, I want to go back.

Speaker 1 So in 2009, you completed the second installment of your nerd trifecta, which again is a real thing

Speaker 1 with Star Trek. Who helped you with your Scottish accent? Was it hard? Like, do you have Scots in your family?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm married to a Scott and

Speaker 2 a Glasgow.

Speaker 2 So her dad helped me.

Speaker 5 Sean's married to a Scot too.

Speaker 2 Yeah. There you go.

Speaker 2 He's right, buddy.

Speaker 2 Lovely. Hello there.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I got help from the family on that because they're the first people to, although they kept trying to make me put like...

Speaker 2 tawdry little Scottish rudeness into the into the script.

Speaker 2 I did actually try a few things, but JJ came up to me and said, Simon, they've got to understand what you're saying.

Speaker 4 Let's hear this a little bit, the rudest thing you could say in Scottish.

Speaker 2 I do actually say there's a famous Scottish Glaswegian say, which is, get tiff, fuck. If you're, if instead of like, you know, shut up or get out of it, it's get, get tiff, fuck.

Speaker 2 And in

Speaker 2 the first Star Trek, I do actually say to uh Deep Roy, who plays my little wingman, you hear me go, get tiff. And I don't, so anyone who's Scottish would know exactly what I was about.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's great. That's great.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. And then you got to write one, like in six months.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was. How did you get?

Speaker 2 That was like someone giving you the keys to a really, really really expensive car.

Speaker 2 It was the hardest thing I've ever done just because we had no time. And

Speaker 2 Justin Lin, who was the director, who's a brilliant, brilliant guy, but he's not a verbal communicator. And it was really hard to understand what he wanted at first.
Like he used to drive.

Speaker 1 And just so people know, it's Star Trek Beyond.

Speaker 2 Sorry. Star Trek Beyond, yeah.

Speaker 2 And myself and Doug Jung, we wrote that script together, but it was...

Speaker 2 loads of fun and Doug came to stay with me in the UK and we'd we'd write during the day and then at night we'd watch episodes of the original series just to try and get little Easter eggs to put in and

Speaker 2 we eventually ended up I you know weirdly it was the first time I'd faced the idea of being rewritten by someone else and that's wild you know we worked really hard on it and then our producer Lindsay called and said we're gonna get some fresh eyes on the script And I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 Like, I'd never experienced that before. And I was so incensed and angry that, how dare you? Right.

Speaker 2 You know, I come from my cushy little British filmmaking background.

Speaker 2 Well, Sean, Sean's mom used to get fresh eyes about every two months, right? Is that right?

Speaker 2 So what we did was we'd get

Speaker 2 Justin Lynn would send us the rewrites and then Doug and I would secretly rewrite them and then send them back to Justin. And then Justin would deliver them to Paramount as his notes.

Speaker 2 So we would secretly rewrite the rewrites. If you're listening to this, Paramount, then it all worked out okay in the end, sure.

Speaker 2 That's fucking great. What a great way to rig the system in your favor.
Yeah, that's

Speaker 2 I just can't.

Speaker 4 Did you get rewritten at all on Paul?

Speaker 2 No. No.
And it shows. No.

Speaker 2 No, the Lorenzo. No, we didn't.
We were lucky. What was the Lorenzole?

Speaker 2 Lorenzo Zoyle. That was your...

Speaker 2 When we came up with your character name, we took the day off. It was the deepest cut.

Speaker 4 That's enough brilliance for the day.

Speaker 2 It was Nick's idea. Lorenzo's Oil.

Speaker 4 Right, and then how do I how do I reveal that? Like, aren't I being at least near the end of the movie, right?

Speaker 2 Like, under the spaceship or something? Your reaction to that,

Speaker 2 I'm not saying, I'm not just saying that, your reaction to that is one of the most supreme comedy double takes I have ever witnessed in any comedy forum.

Speaker 2 Well, it was, wasn't the joke that, like, it was the first time I'd really heard it said, and I was like, oh, fuck. What?

Speaker 2 You go, we go, Agent, you say something like, thank you, Agent Zoyle. You go, call me Lorenzo.
And we go, Lorenzo's Oil. And you go, yeah.

Speaker 2 Then you sort of do this, hmm, like you suddenly heard it for the first time. And it's just fucking sublime, Jason.
It really is. It really just, it's just textbooks.

Speaker 4 It's not surprising that I remember little of that because I think it was a night shoot, if memory serves.

Speaker 2 It was a night shoot, yeah. We were up on the, on the ski bowl with Sigourney Weaver.

Speaker 6 And Taos, as Kristen Wigg used to call it.

Speaker 2 Taos. Taos, that's right.

Speaker 1 So Edgar Wright, who we've already established is one of your besties and does a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 I didn't know this. I didn't know he wrote and directed Baby Driver.

Speaker 2 I love that movie. Yeah, yeah.
I love that he saw it.

Speaker 4 Really? I mean, that is a masterpiece.

Speaker 2 He had that script for a long time, yeah.

Speaker 1 And I heard you do somewhere an impression of him.

Speaker 2 Can you do just a little bit of Edgar?

Speaker 2 You're right. He'll listen to this and he'll kill me.
He does listen to it.

Speaker 1 His voice is quite high.

Speaker 2 That's terrible.

Speaker 2 He gets quite drunk and he's talking in your ear quite loud.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 He has a right to come on the show now himself.

Speaker 2 We got to get him on the show.

Speaker 2 He does send me reviews of episodes sometimes via Twitter.

Speaker 3 Edgar, my phone number is still the same.

Speaker 2 Where's my not reviews, but he'll say, I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 I could listen to you do that for nine hours.

Speaker 2 And Nick does it really well as well. It's got it, it's very high.

Speaker 2 It's kind of like a pterodactyl.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 But he is, you know, I mean, I count it one of the luckiest moments of my life meeting Edgar just because he is such an extraordinary talent. And,

Speaker 2 you know, I love him to bits. So I'm sure he'll forgive me for doing his voice quite like this.

Speaker 2 We'll be right back.

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Speaker 4 I remember like it was yesterday,

Speaker 4 although I'm not sure of some of the details, but I'm pretty sure it was a screening of hot fuzz that I believe you were there with me, Willie, that we got invited to, and I met you and Nick and Edgar.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 6 Edgar, or you, all you guys had loved arrested development. Like, that's why we were there.
That's how we got invited.

Speaker 4 And I remember that as being one of the first times that I thought, oh, you know what it was?

Speaker 5 You know what it is?

Speaker 4 This show is being seen by cool folks.

Speaker 2 Simon, I think you're thinking the same thing I am. It was a screening of the movie that you did with Mike Judge.
Oh, yeah, it was

Speaker 2 the screening of

Speaker 2 Extract. Extract.
Extract. Yeah, that's it.
Simon, did we go together or something? We met up there with Edgar or something.

Speaker 2 That's right. And then

Speaker 2 afterwards, we were in the bar and it was you, me, Amy, and

Speaker 2 you guys and Amy and me. And there were some, I remember there were some paparazzi shots of us all kind of like hanging off each other and smiling and drinking.

Speaker 2 And I remember being really was I drinking? I don't know. I, I was still drinking at that time.
No, you weren't. Jason, you were not.
No, I was the one.

Speaker 2 No, I was still, I was still on it in those days.

Speaker 1 But, um, no, well, Paul's when you, right, when you got sober, right?

Speaker 2 Around that time. Just after Paul, yeah.
I was, I was pretty drunk through Paul. But, um, and it was like the year after that that I got sober.
Good for you. Good for you, yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, I, I have to, I have to fan out because I'm not going to have to.

Speaker 2 Go, Sean.

Speaker 1 So Star Wars universe and Star Wars world and like growing up, was that surreal? Getting invited into that world? And then like, you know, being around Carrie Fisher and all of those people.

Speaker 1 And was that you behind the thing?

Speaker 2 Four, six portions.

Speaker 1 Was that you, that big guy?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was me in the big fat suit, yeah.

Speaker 1 And was that all CGI or was that just you?

Speaker 2 They CGI'd my face a little bit just to make me look less human, but it was a big suit. And yeah, he was called Unkar Plutt.

Speaker 2 And he owned the Millennium falcon which is like you know i was very happy the fact that i have now owned the millennium falcon and been the engineer on the starship enterprise that's

Speaker 1 a personal triumph but wait so like growing up and like seeing were you a fan and then now you're in it and you're around carry fisher and harrison ford i mean were you like yeah it was extraordinary i i you know

Speaker 2 i mean that set as well of the force awakens because it felt very much like the first sort of you know the first star was the star was i grew up loving um and to be around those guys i i was on set the day when when harrison ford and and well han and chewy came onto the millennium falcon again for the first time crazy i cried i cried like a child and then i had a great i've told this story before but it's a good story it's worth telling i i i had a massive crush on carrie fisher when i was a kid i mean she was the first romantic love that i remember feeling you know and and i would kiss her picture before i went to sleep and i was just so in love with her this is pre-return of the jedi before even you know you had a poster and you'd make out with a poster or something i kind of kissed it quite sort of coily because I wasn't, I was seven, eight, I think I was when I saw Stars.

Speaker 2 It didn't get to the UK till 1978.

Speaker 2 So I'm on set with her and we're walking around the world.

Speaker 4 Just look at Will's face, just trying to come up with what would the poster that Sean.

Speaker 2 Oh, my, oh, oh, Sean? No,

Speaker 1 lightsabers.

Speaker 2 We were walking around the set of the resistance base

Speaker 2 arm in arm. And I was kind of chatting with her and stuff.
And I stopped and I looked at her in her eyes and I said

Speaker 2 you know and then and the thing was it was the same fucking eyes it was the same I know that's an obvious thing to say but it was her eyes the eyes that I had just dreamed of ever looking into as a kid and I said you know I've always loved you don't you

Speaker 2 she grabbed my hand and she looked at my wedding and she went fuck you

Speaker 1 she was the best she said you know the the one thing she said to me when I first met her years and years and years and years ago, I never met her in my whole life, was sitting right next to her at this dinner.

Speaker 1 And she goes, you know, Han Sol and I were fucking the whole time.

Speaker 2 And I was like,

Speaker 1 I was like, what? It completely shattered

Speaker 1 everything.

Speaker 2 There's that roast she did.

Speaker 2 I think it's a roast of Harrison Ford or something, but she starts talking and she starts talking about how nervous Harrison Ford looks because he doesn't know what she's going to say because obviously, you know, shit happened.

Speaker 2 Right, right. Wait, really?

Speaker 2 Wait,

Speaker 2 so so, so, there you are. So, now you're, it was Force Awakens.
Is that what you're talking about? That was what I was in, yeah. That was Force Awakens.

Speaker 2 Because that was like, that was like 30 years after the Battle of Endor, right?

Speaker 2 And, and

Speaker 2 no, hang on.

Speaker 2 So, they're on the. I'm just trying to think because there's that pilot, what's his name? Uh, Poe Dameron, and he's on the desert planet of Jaku.
You're looking at Wikipedia. Yes,

Speaker 2 what? Yes, he is.

Speaker 2 Fuck,

Speaker 2 I believe they were on Jaku that whole time, that guy.

Speaker 1 By the way, did you notice?

Speaker 1 Did you notice that some people say in that movie, some people say Jakku, and other people say Jacku.

Speaker 2 Of course I fucking noticed it, dude. It's Jaku.
Of course. It's Jakku, right? It's a double K.
Come on. Of course I noticed it.

Speaker 2 And then I went and I bought a rope and I bought a chair and I was like, what would be a good spot for this?

Speaker 2 Fucking hell. Okay, so but wait.
I say that with love. You know that I love it.
So sometimes,

Speaker 1 so after the Star Wars or one of this 27 Star Treks, whatever,

Speaker 1 I read that you went on vacation and you said, don't, I don't want, you told your agent, I don't want anybody to bother me. I don't want any phone calls, only if it's Steven Spielberg.

Speaker 1 And Steven Spielberg actually fucking calls you and tells you what.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. He phoned and said,

Speaker 2 will you come and be in Ready Player One? Yes, I love that movie, too. And which is obviously an incredible call to get.

Speaker 2 And we'd work with him, you know, because he does a little cameo in Paul as well.

Speaker 2 um so i'd work with him on tintin and then he came in and did his his little bit in paul and then and then i got to do ready play one and and to work with him is is a dream you know he's just the most extraordinary yeah of course i mean he's everything that i loved about cinema as a kid and as an adult and and and he's very willing to sort of chat about his career and stuff he's really really um i love that without crowing you know he'll just tell you stories about jaws and closing counters and it's just it's such a privilege you know he was at Sean's opening night.

Speaker 4 Oh, did he go to your blue?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's an investor.

Speaker 2 Nice fella. Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 Has he been on the show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, last year.

Speaker 1 Super nice. Wait, so Ready Player One.
So then you talked a little bit about the English, you talked about a little bit like American humor versus English humor and like how something about like

Speaker 1 something about like how we always say just kidding or something, but Americans like.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, that's sort of, there's a weird thing, and it comes from a lot of sort of snobbishness, snobbishness in British comedy circles sometimes that you hear, oh, Americans, they don't do irony.

Speaker 2 And it's such a bullshit statement because Americans do some of the greatest irony ever. You guys just don't use it so much socially.

Speaker 2 Present company accepted, you're, I mean, Jason particularly, because you've got a British mom, right? So you're just drier than

Speaker 2 many a desert. He is.

Speaker 4 And I'm usually grumpy, so it's kind of a double negative.

Speaker 2 So yeah, you're virtually.

Speaker 2 I'm very hungry. He's hungry.

Speaker 2 So hungry. But because British people are very ashamed of their emotions, they just wrap everything in sarcasm and irony socially, you know.

Speaker 2 But I think American people generally are just a little less uptight.

Speaker 2 And so if they do say something dry, they'll qualify it as just kidding, just in case that person thinks that they were being serious, which is very.

Speaker 2 But, you know, you only have to watch. I mean, Arrested is a great example of a brilliantly dry comedy show.

Speaker 2 You know, I actually started showing my 14-year-old daughter the show the other day, which was great because it meant I could sort of go back to the beginning. And

Speaker 2 it's such a good example of dry American humor

Speaker 2 at its best.

Speaker 2 But it pales in comparison to

Speaker 4 all the Monty Python stuff. I mean, the British Office.
I mean,

Speaker 4 that whole style of not winking and just playing everything as a drama,

Speaker 4 but a deeply flawed character in a drama,

Speaker 4 then you've got got real good humor.

Speaker 1 Wait, so another Mission Impossible coming out soon on July 12th?

Speaker 5 Don't you guys just do two in a row?

Speaker 1 Yeah, are you filming the second part now?

Speaker 2 I'm in the midst of doing two in a row. Oh my God.

Speaker 2 We've stopped filming now so they can finish Dead Reckoning Part 1. And then we go out on a big press tour

Speaker 2 over the summer. We'll be in New York, free tickets to your show, please Sean.
The Belasco Theatre. And then

Speaker 1 anytime you want.

Speaker 2 The Velasco, the Tabasco Theatre. Tabasco Tabo.

Speaker 2 Spicy shows. Fan of the show.

Speaker 2 And then we go back to shooting in August, and then we complete part two, which will be at next year. And it's been a hell.
I mean, we started shooting this one in 2020.

Speaker 2 No, in September of 2020. Wow.
And it's taken us three years to shoot this movie. Wow.
That's

Speaker 2 right in the thick of the hoax.

Speaker 2 I mean, we kind of...

Speaker 2 What did I say? You said hoax.

Speaker 2 I mean, Simon,

Speaker 4 you haven't stopped making great stuff

Speaker 4 for like 20 years. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 I mean, I want to get to that. Like, do you geek out like I would if I were you when you get the scripts that you get or you produce or make? Like, are you a fan of the genre like I am?

Speaker 1 And, you know what I mean? Like, you're like, oh, this is so funny.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think I am, but I feel like I've aged out a little bit of stuff that

Speaker 2 I've not kind of kept up with all the new sort of Star Wars TV shows and stuff. And that's not to say that it's not because

Speaker 2 I'm sure you're not.

Speaker 1 I can catch you up. Just comment.
I'll catch you up

Speaker 2 if you ring afterwards. Wait, yeah, Simon, what kind of stuff are you watching comedy-wise? Because I'm trying to think if I watch any comedies really.
It's been a while.

Speaker 2 Is there anything that's kind of...

Speaker 2 I started watching the show last night. I think you should leave on Netflix.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've heard about that.
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 I'm writing it.

Speaker 2 It's ridiculous. Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 2 I just re-watched it with somebody because it's so because the episodes are like sort of 16 minutes long. They're not not that long.

Speaker 2 And I just got, when we were in Atlanta, I got Eli to go through and watch them all again with him and they were just brilliant.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's really strange and, but hilarious in a way that, in the way that like Python used to be, you know, like sort of slightly baffling. It's approaching.
I'm not sure exactly why you're like.

Speaker 2 No, it's American. He shot here.
Tim Robinson, he's a brilliant, brilliant guy. And as you know, the very nature of, we had a lot of people from SNL on here over the years, the last few years.

Speaker 2 The nature of sketch comedy is that it's really inconsistent. It's so hard to, from sketch to sketch, to always be strong or always be good.

Speaker 2 And that show, I think you should leave those first six episodes.

Speaker 1 Oh, you told me about it.

Speaker 2 How consistently good. Every sketch, sketch comedy.
I did watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That was a while ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Simon, wait, I just, I'm sorry. This is the last Mission Impossible question just because I'm upset.

Speaker 1 Do you get to, because it's so, your character's so funny and like it's so natural that do you get to write your own lines? Like, are they cool with that?

Speaker 2 Because it sounds like...

Speaker 1 Not really.

Speaker 2 I mean, we don't really have a script.

Speaker 2 It's a very strange way of working. Really? We kind of make it up as we go along.

Speaker 2 But that's crazy. It's true.
I have not ever read a script for the film I've just made.

Speaker 2 What? Tom and McHugh, Chris Macquarie and Tom Cruise, they know the story. They know the big set pieces.
They know that

Speaker 2 those set pieces get shot first usually.

Speaker 2 And then Chris Macquarie, who is a genius at sort of like solving problems, he will come up with the connective tissue, sort of grow the story kind of organically as we're so called the pages.

Speaker 2 I know, but we get pages on the morning of shooting stuff. And I have to say, where have I been in the previous scene? And where am I going? And it can be frustrating, but it sort of works.

Speaker 2 And occasionally, I get to kind of ad lib silly stuff. Like when we were shooting a scene for Fallout, when Tom was, I was sort of guiding.
I'm basically like a GPS. That's my job in Impossible.

Speaker 2 I just read out directions for where Tom Cruise needs to go. And all the stuff about having the map upside down and the 3D thing, that was all kind of thrown in the moment.
Oh, really?

Speaker 2 McHugh is a brilliant writer. You know, he's an Oscar winning writer.
He wrote The Usual Suspects. What an incredible director.
He just somehow thrives in that situation. Yeah.
Incredible.

Speaker 2 I love, I am so in love with those Mission Impossible movies. All of them.

Speaker 1 They're always great. They're so good.
And you're always great in them. I mean,

Speaker 2 you're so great in them, and it's hard to believe that something that has that kind of scope, as Jason said, that's so good and complex and stuff, that you guys would sort of improvise in that way or not really have a full understanding to me on something so big.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I tell you where that wouldn't wash is on the oceanic planet of Achto.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 4 You can close the wiki window.

Speaker 2 No, you wouldn't be able to get it.

Speaker 4 Shut that window just cool.

Speaker 2 Well, on that note,

Speaker 2 beautifully done.

Speaker 1 Simon,

Speaker 1 you are like a dream.

Speaker 1 We've taken too much of your time. This is so nice to know what's going on.

Speaker 2 I feel like we just got started let's keep going

Speaker 2 i don't know it's been

Speaker 2 two part i know i know will you say hi to nick frost please i will i will get him on get edgar on i i and say you know who put me onto this podcast was naira park who you know jason she produced oh please tell her hi too yeah she's edgar and edgar my producer she's done everything we've ever done and and last year she said oh you you you you listen to smartless right and i was like no and and so i i had the the whole of the back catalogue to sort of like which I literally have been like, every time I go to the gym or every time I go for a drive, it's just become like the soundtrack.

Speaker 2 And then, like, however, recently

Speaker 2 the idea of actually doing it came up. And, man, it's just so, I love you guys.
I think you're so amazing.

Speaker 4 If you ever got any ideas of people we should have on the show, please let us know.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yes, I'll send you some British people and you can

Speaker 2 see you, man.

Speaker 1 It's so nice to meet you, Simon, and such a fan.

Speaker 2 You too, Sean. It's a real pleasure.

Speaker 2 I'm serious about coming to see Good Not Oscar. I'd love to come see it if I can.
Anytime. Don't miss that.
Yeah, you'll be blown away.

Speaker 4 Simon, we love you.

Speaker 2 Simon. Okay.
We love you. You just slam this lid.

Speaker 1 You slam it, yes.

Speaker 2 Slam it. All right.
Goodbye, Pali.

Speaker 2 Love you guys. Bye-bye.

Speaker 2 Love you, buddy.

Speaker 4 Well, that's, listen,

Speaker 4 that is a round peg and a round hole.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 4 That peg's no square.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 4 What else?

Speaker 2 Those are really good, actually.

Speaker 4 Thanks, man. I'm coming up with a buy

Speaker 4 as we're talking here.

Speaker 2 Are you?

Speaker 2 You know what I'm thinking about is this friend of mine. I'm not kidding.
This is not getting to a buy. I've been trying to connect the dots.

Speaker 2 I was thinking about Scotty.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because we were talking about Scotty.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I told him Simon Pegg was going to be on he freaked out.

Speaker 2 And then it reminded me, I never told you this because

Speaker 2 this is not a joke. One of my best buddies growing up is his name is Scotty Bear.

Speaker 2 And then I thought about your.

Speaker 2 I swear swear to God. Oh, really? Yes.

Speaker 1 That's funny because Scotty's a bear and you like Bony Bear.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 I like Scotty bone and fair. Anyway, so,

Speaker 1 wait, but Simon Peck, I've always wanted to meet him. I can't believe you knew him.
I didn't know you guys knew him.

Speaker 2 I knew you worked with him in Paul, Jay.

Speaker 1 Yes. But I didn't know you knew him.
He seems really fun.

Speaker 2 Jay is looking up a bye right now.

Speaker 4 No, yeah, I'm finding that my brain needs to completely shut down and focus on that, and I can't hear you guys right now.

Speaker 2 JB.

Speaker 2 JB, how fucking weird is that?

Speaker 2 So, remember, you thought it was a screening of hot fuzz, and that it was, and then I remembered it was a fucking screening of extract, and I remember going to the restaurant next door with Mike Judge, and you, and Amy, and Simon.

Speaker 4 What does that say? Does it say anything? I'm looking for something that might be good for me.

Speaker 4 Is there something good that I don't remember it was a screening for me, my movie, that I'm thinking it was for him and his movie? Does that say something that's trying to be?

Speaker 2 No, are you trying to get me like brownie brownie points?

Speaker 4 Trying to fill up my own ledger, own side of the ledger.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 the good.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 2 You know, as a kid, I used to

Speaker 2 seize in Star Wars.

Speaker 2 By the way, it better be amazing because you are like 0 for 40 right now.

Speaker 5 It's already lost.

Speaker 1 It's a good one. You know, when I was a kid, I always used to mix up the pronunciation of Luke Skywalker's mentor.

Speaker 1 I didn't think it was Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Speaker 2 No, that's no, no way. I thought it was.
No way. I can't allow.

Speaker 2 And I thought it was O-by-wanobi.

Speaker 4 Obi-Wanoba.

Speaker 4 All by one Kenobi and two malts.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 Sean. Sean.
O-buy.

Speaker 4 O-buy-wan Kenobi.

Speaker 4 And two malts. No.

Speaker 5 Was that our out? No.

Speaker 2 No. No.
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