Episode 889 - Courtney Gilmour

Speaker 1 Hi, he's Dave Shumka and he's Graham Clark. And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself.
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Speaker 1 Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode 889 of Stop Podcasting Yourself.

Speaker 1 My name is Graham Clark, and with me, as always, is a man who, from the bottom of his heart, would like to thank you all for the Max Fun Drive for joining up, Mr. Dave Shumka.

Speaker 1 Yeah, from the bottom of my broken heart. Oh, what happened? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a thing. Oh, yeah? Who's saying that? Elvis? Britney Spears.
Was it Brittany? From the bottom of my broken heart.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It'll work, you guys. Is that what you were referencing? I think so.
I knew it was something of that era.

Speaker 1 But for some reason, I was picturing Instinct singing it.

Speaker 1 I was picturing picturing the five of them. It's a vibe.
It's the same. It's a similar vibe.
I mean,

Speaker 1 it's very similar.

Speaker 1 She dated an InSync member.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I want to say Chris Kirkbach with Joey Fatell.

Speaker 1 That voice you hear is our guest on the podcast today. Third time guest on Stop Podcast Years.
She has a Juno-nominated album out there called Wonder Woman.

Speaker 1 And possibly at the time of this video, at least you might be looking at a winning album.

Speaker 1 Do like two edits. Okay, so that was a lost or huge loser.
There we go. Go do three.
Okay, so we did the one nominated.

Speaker 1 She's got a Juno winning album called Wonder Woman. It's Courtney Gilmore.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I feel so great about winning.

Speaker 1 You deserve it.

Speaker 1 All right, we'll do a cold one.

Speaker 1 And she has a Juno. losing album called Wonder Woman.
Like you need to hear it, I guess. It's Courtney Gilmore.

Speaker 1 Good, okay. We got a lot of fun.
So that's good. All right, cool.
So we have a little bit of time. All right, just let me check with the engineer.
You happy with that?

Speaker 1 Okay, cool.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you for being our guest. Thank you for having me.
Thank you for having me back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's your first time in person. You were talking before.
Well, let's get to know us. Yeah, let's get to know us.

Speaker 1 Get to know us. Tell us all about it.
Well, before the show, you were saying, I was telling Graham before you even got here, before you were a glimmer in our eye.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 I thought this was only your second time. Yeah.
And you thought it was my second time. I thought it was only my second time.
And Graham was like, no, no, no, no, you fools. Yeah, you fools.

Speaker 1 And I don't, and I don't remember the second time. Well, I, because I looked them up.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And it said in the first one, because I was immediately like, oh, she's, she's the, she's like a perfume savant. Yes, the perfume one was the first time.
That was the second time.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was, and I still remember the website for Grantica. Fragrantica.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 And the first one we talked about your, I guess it was a podcast about

Speaker 1 couples, like

Speaker 1 fictional couples. Oh, that's right.
Yes, that was during the pandemic. I had a podcast called Rated X with my ex, and we rated couples.
Yes, that's right. That's right.
Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's starting to become more distinct. Yeah.
And you, you are a perfume expert.

Speaker 1 I, last time I saw you was in Toronto, and you were wearing one that you said you found at Winners. And you said, like, Winners is the spot for getting a perfume.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they do have, because it's just like a clearance utopia. And so you can get all kinds of like luxury brands for dirt cheap.
Yeah. And who cares?

Speaker 1 Maybe someone opened it a little bit and missed a lot of it looks like squirrels ravaged into the box. Who cares? I got my little, and yeah, I did have that.

Speaker 1 And you know what I appreciate about you, Graham, is you, every time you see me, you want to know what I'm wearing, who I'm wearing. Graham, you can probably tell from the smell.
You can see that.

Speaker 1 Can you tell?

Speaker 1 This is one that you got at.

Speaker 1 I should try to guess. Okay.
Okay, you go first. Mine is Femka Jansen.
Presents.

Speaker 1 Presents. Presents hot popsicle.

Speaker 1 Can you detect any notes? Or? Oh, okay. Oh, vanilla, vanilla, vanilla.

Speaker 1 The stick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's just doing popsicle notes?

Speaker 1 The little riddle.

Speaker 1 Okay, now you name one.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy. I was going to go legitimate.
I was like, this is.

Speaker 1 Forgive him Calvin Klein vibes. Oh, wow.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Well.

Speaker 1 No, no, from your reaction, that was a joke. That was one of my jokes.
I reacted too strongly for that to be. Oh, yeah, no, I'm going to go with that.
This is Liam Neeson's.

Speaker 1 I have a certain set of smells.

Speaker 1 This is Liam Neesons.

Speaker 1 Now, which one are you wearing today? What do you got on your bus? Well,

Speaker 1 this was actually a gift from... fellow comedian Rebecca Reeds actually gifted this to me.
It's Victor Rolfe

Speaker 1 called Flower Bomb.

Speaker 1 And I was very impressed that Rebecca, she got this for me for my birthday, like a little travel size kit of little scents and it's very on brand for like it's it's very signature courtney scent a little bit of vanilla little bit of like uh sweet and spicy sweet is what i i described my scent as being now i when i

Speaker 1 you said victor and rolf victor rolfe yeah it's victor and roll oh it's victor oh my gosh my my apologies um but the i remember seeing i'd only i'd never heard them before before i saw an ad for a fragrance called spice bomb spice is it Victor and Rolf?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's Victor and Rolf.

Speaker 1 So they must have. Oh, and it's shaped like a Spice Bomb.
I'm shaped like a grenade. So they love bombs.

Speaker 1 They love calling their. Look up Flower Bomb and see what that looks like.

Speaker 1 We will, we will, but I. But if it also looks like a grenade.
I'm also just curious

Speaker 1 why it stuck with me. I feel like.
Because of that muscly man in the. No, I feel like there was an ad that was like very

Speaker 1 explosive. I mean, this is exploding right there.
Yeah. It's like a spice bomb.

Speaker 1 So what are we looking up? Flower bomb? Flower bomb. That guy looks like the model that was on.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a pink one. Yes.
And I hadn't worn it, but

Speaker 1 it smells a little bit similar to one of my favorite perfumes called Candy. And I don't know if Rebecca had this in mind, but it seemed very intentional, and that's what I appreciated about it.

Speaker 1 Candy Ariana Grande? No, it's Candy Mary. It's not.
It's Prada. I haven't.
It's just Prada. Yeah, I haven't dabbled much into the celebrity fragrance.
That's what fragrances are.

Speaker 1 When you say winners, I think of like, oh, you know,

Speaker 1 ushers,

Speaker 1 they have a lot of those. But you know what? Britney Spears had good, she had fantasy, she had some good sense back in the day.
Yeah. Those are the only ones that I remember like seeking out actively.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, it's like celebs, they come out with these things and it's just very alcohol-heavy and they're not putting much care into it. They're slapping their name on it.

Speaker 1 This is Jessica Simpson's melon jugs.

Speaker 1 Melon Jake. Melon jug chaste.

Speaker 1 Melon's a good flavor. Smell.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, smell.

Speaker 1 Don't drink the perfume, Dave.

Speaker 1 How many, if you had to estimate, how many perfumes do you own? Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 Are we talking in the three digits?

Speaker 1 No, not three digits. I think in two digits.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And probably low two digits. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think probably more than 11, but not more than 20. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's a healthy amount. Because

Speaker 1 I wear them, but I don't

Speaker 1 like sparingly. Right.
You know? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's a rotation. Especially if you have a rotation, you're not going to go through them.
Exactly. And my mom likes to gift me because she knows I like candy, the proud one.

Speaker 1 So she's gifted me a lot for my birthday and Christmas. And I'm not even, I've probably have four just from gift for the past three years.
That's just because I have candy. Just of candy, yes.

Speaker 1 It's very nice. I like it.
What are candles? What do you like, Darry? Are you a candle person? I used to be, but

Speaker 1 then I think that's how I knew. I was like, you know what? I think I just like the smell, and why don't I just smell like it?

Speaker 1 We were going to ask you, what was the defining moment where you said this is what I'm going to smell for the rest of my life?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 because I can just put the smell on me. I don't have to burn anything.
I don't need to be lightening anything. Yeah, but I like to burn stuff.

Speaker 1 Dave loves a sandalwood. You know, you love a sandalwood.
Do you like a fiddle?

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 One of the other things I like.

Speaker 1 Crabgrass.

Speaker 1 You know, notes of.

Speaker 1 You know what I would like to know? Yes.

Speaker 1 And I can't remember. And forgive me if I did mention this.
During one of my mysterious two episodes that I don't, one of which I don't remember.

Speaker 1 Signature ring. Yes.
My signature ring.

Speaker 1 About the fugue state that I disassociated was, is is it dissociate or disassociate? I feel so nervous to use the term. Disassociate.
Disassociate. I disagree.
I think it's dissociate. See? Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Well, see, I don't know what to use. Let's just look at Victor and Rolf dissociate balm.

Speaker 1 Dissociate balm.

Speaker 1 Dissociate.

Speaker 1 Dissociate versus...

Speaker 1 Disassociate.

Speaker 1 Let's see what the word dissociate is generally preferred and considered more formal, while disassociate is for idiots. That's not what it does.
Say that. Does not say that.

Speaker 1 It's more common in everyday usage. Okay.
All right. So we're

Speaker 1 team Juno nominees.

Speaker 1 All I've got are my pathetic Canadian comedy awards.

Speaker 1 Cologne versus perfume. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I find that

Speaker 1 unless whoa, my voice is cracked. That's fine.

Speaker 1 I can tell you're very excited.

Speaker 1 I need to explain that after.

Speaker 1 I find that unless it's like an old lady perfume, that you really, someone just really doused themselves in it. And, you know, you leave an elevator and you can smell it.

Speaker 1 Oh, someone went heavy on the perfume. Yeah.
I find, though, that more often than not, cologne has like the staying power that's way more

Speaker 1 invasive. And I can always smell.
And

Speaker 1 whether it's a man walking by me or I could just tell he was just there, i'm always smelling a man's cologne so pungently yeah and i'm wondering like do they make it differently in the formula what is it that's giving it that staying power yeah it's just versus perfume it's built different we're built different i think i was watching a movie and like the the hunky lead put on perfume and he sprayed it all over his neck and i was like well that's not the way that you're supposed to apply cologne right you're supposed to he's just supposed to spray it in there and like like misting misting is nice too but if you want it to stay you do have to you like I always know if someone is putting perfume on and they're doing, what I'm doing is I'm rubbing, you don't do that if you want it to stay.

Speaker 1 I do a little spot on both my wrists that I rub. If you rub it,

Speaker 1 it's not going to last. Damn it.
You can't rub. You just got to let it soak.
You got to soak in it. So, really, like, you have to put it a couple times.

Speaker 1 You have to gatorade yourself with the fragrance.

Speaker 1 It's basically a good lasting spray is an overspray. Okay.
Yeah. I know

Speaker 1 here in Vancouver, we've got hundreds and hundreds of Irish people that come over here. And boy, if you see a bunch of Irish young lads, you are going to get a cloud of cologne.

Speaker 1 Overpowering. Absolutely overpowering.
Is it the same kind? What kind of.

Speaker 1 It probably is.

Speaker 1 It's Victor and Rolf clover bomb.

Speaker 1 It's shamrock shake bomb. I've established myself now as

Speaker 1 the perfume guest. Yeah, we like to have the fragrances.
Who are heaven area of expertise?

Speaker 1 Who else do we have? That's like.

Speaker 1 we had that guy that opened Jurassic Park?

Speaker 1 He actually wasn't very smart about it. And he wasn't funny either.
No. But he took a lot of very like deep breaths.

Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Overheard.

Speaker 1 So you, is this your first time visiting Vancouver? No, I've been here a bunch. Okay.
I've been here a bunch, but it's been, I think I was here,

Speaker 1 I was here recently-ish. Yeah.
Oh, I was passing through when I was on my way to Victoria.

Speaker 1 Other than that, it's been like a couple of years. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Is there like a spot that you like that

Speaker 1 a diner or restaurant, anything that you remember, like, wow, that was the best? No, because I don't, I feel like whenever I'm here, I'm always the busiest I've ever been.

Speaker 1 And my itinerary is set for me, and I don't really get a chance to go like off-site from what I'm doing. So I feel like for as often as I visit here, visited here, I don't know the city very well.

Speaker 1 The food.

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 1 sushi, but I can't, like, I just like, wherever someone wants to take me for sushi, I'll just go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I will say I really appreciate your umbrella etiquette that you have here. It's very noticeable compared to Toronto.
Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Today, just today, like walking, me and some other comics were just downtown walking.

Speaker 1 And like in Toronto, two people coming towards each other from opposite sides of the sidewalk, both of them with umbrellas.

Speaker 1 If you're in Toronto, it's like a standoff and one of you is going to get spoked in the cornea with the umbrella.

Speaker 1 What happened to your eye? I got spoken. You get spoken in the cornea.
But here,

Speaker 1 it's like there's an elegant and very respectful lift of the umbrella.

Speaker 1 There's a lift.

Speaker 1 Milady, we say? Yes.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they're pretty good, actually, about not walking under the awning with...

Speaker 1 No, they're not. They're not.

Speaker 1 And that's, I really don't. I've noticed that the last couple of years, it's getting better.
Okay. I think it's because there are these Irish people right now.
Yeah, they know how to deal with rain.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 Vancouver has obviously acclimated to the environment, and so you know how to move around in it. But that's very nice for you.
You can see us drive in the snow, though. Oh, boy.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we can hardly handle those hot, hot summers.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 with volcano time, we have a really hard time with as well. I'm already, I got to say, and it's only end of March.
Everywhere I've been this weekend, I'm overheating. I'm too warm all the time.

Speaker 1 All the time, too. Did you bring a winter coat? I sure did.
Yeah. Yeah.
I sure did. So everything out here is layering.
It's all layers. Then I went to Toronto.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, yeah, layering doesn't work here. You need a coat.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think of a joke about

Speaker 1 layering? You have a layers like LAIR? Like, oh, yeah, like, there's a lot of dungeons.

Speaker 1 The layer part of it. What is the layer? It's just sort of your dad.
It's like your, yeah, your your evil.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're an evil. Do nice guys have lairs.
I mean, yeah, not all men have lairs. Not all men.
Is a man cave a lair? Yeah, man cave is most certainly my lair. It's my domain.

Speaker 1 What's in your man cave again? Well, my collection of colognes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 What are your top three? I've got

Speaker 1 Victor and Rolf Shrekbaum.

Speaker 1 I've got diesel.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. Yeah.
Diesel. I've got

Speaker 1 Mark Jacobs expired milk. Oh, that's a nice one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They do do that with like diesel. Like, it has to sound if it's like a man's thing.
It's got to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah. But diesel, I'm sure, makes a perfume as well.
Diesel's a huge conglomerate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Vin Diesel probably has one out there. There's a there's a Tom Ford cologne, or I think it's a gender neutral scent, but it's smells of motor oil.

Speaker 1 And I'm actually been very, I've been seeking it out because I've always, I was like, put, make gasoline or something like that into a bottle, but take out the thing that's going to what are your what are your favorite like everyday smells is gasoline i love gasoline i love liquid paper i love hand sanitizer alcohol like strong very strong abrasive scents yeah you don't want to be huffing but if you put it in a nice little

Speaker 1 i know some guys who want to be huffing gasoline yeah some people want want to be huffing it but I want to be doing it safely yeah just the scent which is I know why they that's why they put it in there but I like spray paint

Speaker 1 I love

Speaker 1 chlorine yeah chlorine oh really okay chlorine

Speaker 1 what do I actually like because

Speaker 1 like gasoline is like

Speaker 1 headache inducing for me that or like tar

Speaker 1 like hot tar yeah yeah I mean it's my favorite movie

Speaker 1 oh you're not lying.

Speaker 1 But yeah, everyday smells, sure. Barbecue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, barbecue is good. I like, you know, classic, like, Indian food restaurant, delicious.
Spices, love them.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's chlorine is like just so nostalgic. Oh my God.
Waffle cone walking by a waffle cone. Oh boy.

Speaker 1 Waffle cone restaurant. I don't like walking past a Cinnabon.
Sorry for that hot take, but it's overpowering for me. Okay.
I find it to be a little bit too much. It's aggressive.

Speaker 1 Can't they water it down a bit with some gasoline? Yeah, you can tofer it a little bit.

Speaker 1 And still, this is my disgusting one: Subway. If I'm walking past a subway and I smell that subway smell,

Speaker 1 I'm in. I'm interested.
I don't ever get it. Same with I'm the way that way with KFC.
I love the smell. And I'm also with Subway, but I do like the smell of Subway.

Speaker 1 I sometimes I'll go into Subway and say, Can I just touch my neck with one of your sandwiches? Just

Speaker 1 don't rub it because then you lose the scent.

Speaker 1 But yeah, KFC, I like the smell of, but would never eat. No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. KFC, what's your hot take on KFC? I haven't had it in years, but I but I do.
I do agree. I like the scent.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I would not, I mean, I don't think to eat it, but if someone put it in front of me, I don't think I would say that.

Speaker 1 Sorry to

Speaker 1 make this so smell-centric. It really is, but it looks like it's KFC.
I think they put out like a

Speaker 1 either a, not a candle. I think they did.
It was a fire log. It was a log, yeah.

Speaker 1 You put in the fireplace so the whole your house smells like KFC. Oh, that's like.
I mean, you have to have a place to light a fire log, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, did they have those like Yankee candles that were like man-scented or something? And it had like a ripped buff guy on the thing, the label.

Speaker 1 There you go. Fire log, KFC.
Fire log.

Speaker 1 Did you ever watch that Yankee candle kid? No. On YouTube? Do you know the kid that reviewed Yankee Candles? I don't even know if he would review them.

Speaker 1 He would just bring home, this is my haul from Yankee Candle, this like 14-year-old boy. I wonder where he ended up.
He's so cute.

Speaker 1 I hope he's working to head off, doesn't he? Yeah. I hope he's living his dream.

Speaker 1 So you're out here. You're nominated for a Juno.
This is the second time, two-time nominee. Two times.

Speaker 1 What's the gap of time between first album, second album?

Speaker 1 Barely a year.

Speaker 1 No way, really? Yeah, it was very, it was very unexpected. The second one was very unexpected.
I recorded the second one at the end of, I think, like 2022, released it.

Speaker 1 No, I released it in, yeah, 2023. Yeah.
This one, 2024. Yeah, it was a very short window

Speaker 1 of time. And the second one just kind of came together just like just an inspo thing.
I just had some ideas and they just kept growing. And then it just became an album really fast.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think I would. My first was a compilation of bass.
You know how most people's debut albums are pretty much a compilation of everything that they've just ever written.

Speaker 1 And they just want, let's burn it, let's put it all on one record. All my jokes, I can be over them.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 this one was different. It was more of a theme and

Speaker 1 it was like a bit more personal to me. Not, not that, you mean, it's, it's jokes.
It's not like, you know,

Speaker 1 it's like a jazz album.

Speaker 1 Here's the awful things in my mind. Oh my gosh, one time.
So my first album is called, it's called Let Me Hold Your Baby because I'm an arm amputee.

Speaker 1 And so it's like, and it's got a picture of me holding a baby with no arms and everything.

Speaker 1 And I did an interview

Speaker 1 when I was like

Speaker 1 releasing it and promoting it. And this, I forget what radio station, some local radio station was interviewing me.
And they were very like gracious and everything.

Speaker 1 But then at the end of the interview, as they were outroing me, they're like, and this is Courtney Gilmore. and you can listen to her new album out now.
Let me hold you, baby.

Speaker 1 I'm like, no.

Speaker 1 That is.

Speaker 1 One letter.

Speaker 1 Let me hold you, baby.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so this one is, it's, you know, it's, it's different. And then, and, um, but yeah, I came together quite, quite rapidly.
Thank you. You're going to release one in 2020.

Speaker 1 Let's just keep going every year, you know? my friends are. Yeah, you know,

Speaker 1 George Carlin used to put out a special every year, apparently. I know.
I mean, this one has been more of a reverse process in that, like, when I, as I said, like your first album, old jokes.

Speaker 1 And so once I recorded that, I was done with those jokes.

Speaker 1 But this one, because it still feels relatively new to me for how fast I put it together, I've still been having fun using, you doing that material live. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I had such a short time before I recorded it. And then I was like, these are still fresh to me.
Why not still do it? I'm kind of winding down off that now. But

Speaker 1 now,

Speaker 1 you never know. It's good to have in the back pocket, though.
How much, well, like, so do you say that you can generate ish like 40 minutes an hour a year? Or is this just

Speaker 1 like an insane year where it all hit you? I think it was just an insane. I don't know that I would put myself to that test.
Okay. Although, if someone told me to, or told me I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 You know what? You can't do it. You can't.
Yeah. Then I'm like, all right, we'll see.
I really, most of my major decisions are born of spite.

Speaker 1 I would do it.

Speaker 1 I'm the opposite. I'd be like, if someone told me to, and if I was like, if it was jigsaw and he said, you're locked in a room.
Jigsaw. Until you come up with 40 minutes of material.

Speaker 1 And mostly just crowd work with that little puppet guy.

Speaker 1 What do you do for a living? Well, I torture people. I've never seen the saw movies, but I imagine that's what he makes you do, right? Like, you have to, but then just don't, like, just kill me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is that ever?

Speaker 1 Are they all just trying to stay alive? Like, they just. Everybody's trying to stay alive.
I don't get that then at all. I've only seen the first one.
I've seen the first one.

Speaker 1 I've seen chunks of the other ones. But the thing is, like, in the first one, the traps are possible.
And then as it goes along, the traps have to go crazier and crazier.

Speaker 1 Isn't it like one of them, like, the key is in your stomach and you have to like cut it out of yourself?

Speaker 1 There was a key in a girl's boyfriend's stomach, and she had to root around in his guts to find the key. Because if she didn't, she had a bear trap on her head.
Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 A girl's boyfriend. Never.
So you're telling me she's single? Like, are they still together? Was he alive still? Yeah. Really? Yeah.
And he was like, don't do this. She was like, well, what do I want?

Speaker 1 I got bear trap?

Speaker 1 Have you ever done, have you ever done escape rooms? Yes.

Speaker 1 You have? Yeah, you. Okay.

Speaker 1 I have, and that just the key thing reminded me of, not, not, no, but I didn't have to root around in anyone's guts or anything like that, but they had, we did it for a bridal bachelorette party.

Speaker 1 It was an escape room, it was part of the itinerary. And it was so funny because I kind of like,

Speaker 1 as I mentioned, I am an amputee, so I'm missing hands. And

Speaker 1 some of the challenges were like,

Speaker 1 I had to just go along. Hold this baby.

Speaker 1 no but one of them was like you're in a room and they handcuff you to this like pipe

Speaker 1 and then they put the and to get out of the room the key is on the other side of the room you're handcuffed in the middle right and you have to get the key somehow so it's you know you order yourself and you but for me it's like

Speaker 1 We all know I can get out of these cuffs pretty easily, but because it's the game and I don't want to ruin it for anyone, I'm going to be like, help, I can't get out of the cuffs.

Speaker 1 So I just, like, stayed in the cuffs, knowing full well I could have cheated and gotten the key for us. That's a player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. I didn't want to get it the cheap way, so I just loosely hung my nubs from the cuff, from the loose cuffs, and just allowed us to suffer for so long.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what?

Speaker 1 If you're going the high road, just keep going the high road the whole time. You guys solve it.
I'll be here locked up. Yeah, because it wouldn't be fulfilling if I just, you know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a good bachelor party. Or bachelorette party.
I think so. I mean,

Speaker 1 a better thing is to get really drunk at a comedy club. Oh, it's the ruin of show.
Ruin a show. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 The one escape room that I did, the guy that was introducing it to us made it very clear. He's like, the thing is not behind any of the paintings on the wall.
If you feel any resistance,

Speaker 1 it is not in that area. As soon as that guy got up, he's lying.

Speaker 1 Let's reap on these things.

Speaker 1 Have you ever had to do a team building exercise? Have you ever been with a company or something where you had to do something like that?

Speaker 1 No, but I've had to be the entertainment for companies that are doing team building exercises. And one of the...

Speaker 1 One of their breaks in between exercises is stand-up comedy at 10 a.m. at some kind of hotel conference room with the daylight streaming into our eyeballs.

Speaker 1 And that's very popular, though. Hiring, like corporate comedy in that setting where it's like, this is our day of team building exercises.
And then the break is comedy. Right.

Speaker 1 I can't remember any of the team. I've had to do that, but I don't remember any of them.
I feel like, you know, I can imagine I'm like, build a bridge out of popsicles, digs, but

Speaker 1 I don't think I've had to do that. Yeah.
I think the only one I can remember is I worked at a book company and the guy that owned the company played a tuba and we had to go watch his band play.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Was that an escape room?

Speaker 1 Do not try throwing anything at my tuba. That is not the way.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 is a team building exercise different than icebreaker games? That's a good question.

Speaker 1 I think you have to like...

Speaker 1 Icebreaker games are like when you've just met your team. And team building is when you're like, hey, the ice is broken.
Let's build this team.

Speaker 1 Time to get building. Yeah.
I always feel very bad for people in those conferences and in like company Christmas parties or whatever. They have to be there.

Speaker 1 So they're like there, not against their will, but kind of, right? So then they're not the hottest crowd, people that just like don't want to be there. I know.
And then, I mean,

Speaker 1 sometimes companies will, if they have a nice, like a decent budget, they're going to like do their company party or event with Comedy Incorporated off-site in an appropriate setting where it makes makes sense.

Speaker 1 But if they don't, like so many of the corporates I do are in the office on their lunch break.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I'm going to make you uncomfortable for 40 minutes and then you're going to go back to work. And it's just going to be such a weird day for you.
And I feel bad, but it's not my problem.

Speaker 1 The ones off-site are pretty weird too because they're like all at a hotel. They're drinking together.
They're, you know, maybe my work wife, my real wife doesn't know what my work wife knows about.

Speaker 1 I love, but that's, I love the, and that's the thing too is because as a comedian i feel very curious and like intrigued i want to know the hot goss of the office i want to know who's i want to know who's you know all these here graham is my work wife yes that's right and don't forget we have an appointment later oh yeah ring sizing

Speaker 1 ring sizing

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 uh the one time i did a corporate I've done a bunch of corporates, but one time we did it for Home Depot and it was held in the Home Depot.

Speaker 1 and I was like this is torture for you guys you're just yeah you're back was it here it was in yeah it was out like Quitlum or something did they have a Harvey's in the

Speaker 1 no they didn't have a Harvey's in the restaurant

Speaker 1 was my first question why would they have a Harvey Vancouver so the Vancouver doesn't have Harvey's but no way

Speaker 1 we have we had one on Gramble Street there was one on Granville Street for a few years there was one inside of Home Depot for years and then there was one in the airport for a few years yeah home depot is an interesting choice.

Speaker 1 I think we have a Harvey. Was it a subway at one point as well? I don't know.
I do. I just know the Harvey's years.
And then I'm

Speaker 1 a Home Depot. Yeah.
Harvey's has,

Speaker 1 I don't know how I feel. I don't feel really one way or another about Harvey's.
I don't go there often enough to have Harvey. We're in

Speaker 1 a trade war with America right now. So we actually love Harvey's.
We have Canadian. Yeah, elbows up.
We got to have our Harvey. Yeah, that's what we've been saying.
That's the new slogan.

Speaker 1 We've got to have our Harvey's.

Speaker 1 We've got to have our.

Speaker 1 They have, okay, well, then this is a plug for them, though. They do have an incredible chocolate milkshake.
They do. It's very rich.
It's very nice.

Speaker 1 And for the longest time, they were the top billing for veggie burger. Yes, that's true.
And that was my, our family was a Harvey's family. Oh, okay.
Growing up. Yeah.
That was my family.

Speaker 1 Was there Sunday, Sunday dinner or Sunday lunch?

Speaker 1 Like Sunday lunch, something like an afternoon, yeah, a weekend afternoon, a Harvey's burger.

Speaker 1 Where did you grow up? Kitchener-Waterloo. Kitchener-Waterloo.
Both of them. Each of them for probably the same amount of years.
Is there a name for that area? Or is it just Kitchener-Waterloo?

Speaker 1 K-Dubs, K-W.

Speaker 1 Tri-City. It's

Speaker 1 Kitchener-Waterloo, Cambridge is the Tri-City area.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 they're always... Are they rivals, Kitchener-Waterloo? Are they like listening?

Speaker 1 I'm going to ruffle some feathers with this if there are any of them listening because I am a hometown girl, but I do feel a bit disconnected because it's been, I have, I didn't live there as an adult.

Speaker 1 I moved when I was 18, but I still, all my family is still there and I visit often enough. But I sense a rivalry where I feel like they deny it because it feels like the divide.

Speaker 1 Well, they are two different cities, but they're also merged by like one long street. Like, you know,

Speaker 1 like Young Street. Everybody says Kitchener-Waterloo.

Speaker 1 Exactly. But they are very, they are very distinctive.
And they want to, from what I experience, they want to be, they want to remain distinctive.

Speaker 1 But it's like, and I get that, but it's also like, okay, but Kitchener and Waterloo, like if I meet, if I'm out on the road, like across the country and someone says, I'm from Kitchener, and I go, and I say, oh, me too.

Speaker 1 And then I wouldn't correct myself and be like, actually, Waterloo. Like, I'm like Kitchener and Waterloo.
It's this, you know.

Speaker 1 Do they have like,

Speaker 1 would a radio station be in Kitchener?

Speaker 1 And like, talk about just Kitchener. Or would you not be able to pick it up in Waterloo? Or is it? No, it's both.
I'm pretty sure most of them, if not all, are like local to both.

Speaker 1 Does anyone just play waterloo by abba

Speaker 1 just 24 7 waterloo

Speaker 1 kitchener come on somebody's in the kitchener with dinah

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 yeah it's um

Speaker 1 you could you not get out of there fast enough when you were 18 did you just

Speaker 1 i did not like it it's just like that i didn't uh there was nothing there for it wasn't really like a thriving comedy scene and you know like most 18 year olds you're like i need to go experience the world.

Speaker 1 So I moved to Windsor, Ontario. So exotic.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah, I just wanted to try out other things.
Sure. And

Speaker 1 yeah, it's more Kitchener Waterloo, very engineering-heavy. Math, the Perimeter Institute is there and research in motion where the Blackberry was invented.

Speaker 1 They loved their Blackberry Waterloo. My parents were probably the last

Speaker 1 hands to hold the final Blackberry as it died in their arms. My dad loved the Blackberry.
My dad, too. And he really defended it, which years after, and I would be like,

Speaker 1 even passage prime, I'm like, dad, it's not working anymore. Like, I can't text you anymore.
He's like, Obama uses it. I'm like, he doesn't anymore.

Speaker 1 He saw one picture of Obama with a Blackberry. And that's like.

Speaker 1 What was the thing with Obama? It was like they had to hide his. Yeah, because he was always just typing away.
Yeah, they were like, it's a national.

Speaker 1 I never had one. I never got it.
I wasn't a BBM girly. I didn't have the.
I was a BBL girly myself. Yeah.
BBL? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 No, but my dad, I think he loved the rolling ball. Oh, the rolling ball.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Scrolling, mouse cannot. Scrolling, rolling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I went from just like phone to

Speaker 1 iPhone, I think.

Speaker 1 Oh, you didn't do like the many in-between interim. Oh, let's go through our phone history.
Oh, but did you have a Windows phone? I had a Windows phone. I had a Razor.
I had a sidecar.

Speaker 1 I never had a Razor. I always wanted a Razor.

Speaker 1 Those were very short-lived. I had a Nokia.
Yep. Not the big brick, the Little Brick.
Okay. You can play Snake.

Speaker 1 And then maybe, did I have anything before? Oh, I had like a Samsung flip phone. Yeah, I love the flip phone.
And then I, oh my God, the flip phones, I would.

Speaker 1 It was like a TV show. I wouldn't say goodbye to people.

Speaker 1 When the conversation's over, and I wasn't trying to be funny or anything. All right, so yeah, snap.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You love the snap. Then I had a razor.
Abby, my wife had the LG,

Speaker 1 it was a mirror, and you, but you like slided it open. Slid, I guess.
Yeah, sure. Splowed.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then a series of iPhones. I didn't, I never had a flip.
I had just the solid, like, Nokia, or what's the other one that's like indestructible? Is it Nokia? Nokia is. Yeah.
Indestructible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I, no, wait, I I did have one that was a closed phone. And I, just like a couple weeks ago, I had a dream that that was still my phone.
Oh, really? And everybody's like, get off that phone.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, no, I like it. I love dreams about,

Speaker 1 I don't know, like, I don't know what your, what your constant,

Speaker 1 consistent dreaming schedule is, but mine is very boring.

Speaker 1 All the time. Like, they're so boring that like, and I'm not kidding about this.
Sometimes a boring dreamer.

Speaker 1 And I love to hear about boring dreams because they're so funny to me but sometimes I'm not joking I will kind of like be in a lucid state in the middle of a boring dream and I'll wake up like yawning and being like oh when is this gonna be over like like impatient impatient one time I had a dream this is my most notable boring dream I think about it often because it was just so dumb I was at I dreamt that I was at the gym and I was on the treadmill and next to me on the treadmill beside me was the rock Dwayne the Rock Johnson this is this is exciting

Speaker 1 wayne buckle up and he was wearing headphones and i got off my treadmill and i went over to him and i tapped him on the shoulder and i made him take his headphones off so that i could ask him if he thought that if if he thought that the air conditioning was working

Speaker 1 oh that is good yeah that is really good you kind of see it snuck up on us and we started off kind of excited yeah i was like wow you saw the rock

Speaker 1 i'm glad you asked me this is a constant thing. It's like things like that where I'm like bored in the dream.
Dave has a couple of favors.

Speaker 1 Here's one.

Speaker 1 A constant, not a constant, what we bring it up a lot is my dream that it was kind of a crisis, but

Speaker 1 I woke up really worried because in the dream, my

Speaker 1 travel agent was going to retire.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't like she was retiring that day, but it was like, in the next few months, you're going to want to get some things in order.

Speaker 1 That's so funny.

Speaker 1 And then you had another one. Me and a bunch of guys were repairing a garage door in one dream.

Speaker 1 I love, I need like chronicles of boring. There's so much more interesting than...
Weird dreams because anything can happen in a weird dream.

Speaker 1 We know that dreams are weird, but I need to know about how long you were on your computer moving files around or whatever. I did have one

Speaker 1 in the last couple of weeks. I don't remember it though, but I know I was like cooking in it.
Yeah. And it was just like, oh, yeah, that's nothing.

Speaker 1 Well, stay tuned once we hit Overheard. There's a pretty good Overdreamt in there.
Oh, yeah. It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Have either of you guys

Speaker 1 woken up like that before from a dream? Like just like panicky and crazy?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a nightmare. I have, I'm a frequent night terror.
I'm a night terror.

Speaker 1 I'm a night terror.

Speaker 1 Third album of night terror. I'm a night terror haver experiencer.

Speaker 1 And I don't, because I live alone, when I'm with other people or at their house, my parents, they'll overhear the night terrors, but I often won't remember them.

Speaker 1 So I can't tell you like how frequently I have them because I don't know.

Speaker 1 Sometimes I wake myself up. Right.
But I don't know of all the times I don't. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 You're not putting like a paranormal activity camera.

Speaker 1 I kind of am tempted to do that, but I am too scared. One time I did that with my cat, I put up a kiddie cam and

Speaker 1 to film my cat all day just to see what kind of mischief she was up to. And I was always scared I was going to see a ghost, but I didn't.
I just got really mad that my cat was acting out all day.

Speaker 1 And I had to look at it. And she would be like, I saw her like

Speaker 1 get tangled in the blinds because she was trying to fight my, she saw my landlord outside. And so she was trying to fight him.
And I was like, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 And so I stopped the camera because it was making me too mad and watching her what she gets up to. Also, there's evidence that you ruined your blog.

Speaker 1 I think it's so weird. Like, I see so many videos of a funny thing that happened in someone's house.
Like, just a funny video of, oh, my kid did this thing or whatever.

Speaker 1 Like, the idea of having a camera going in my house 24 hours a day is

Speaker 1 terrifying to me. Yeah.
Yeah. It's not what I get up to.
No, sir. Yeah.
Yeah. I

Speaker 1 have in my apartment, my bedroom window looks directly into somebody else's bedroom window. I don't know who they are, but I feel so bad for them.

Speaker 1 If they ever glance over, it's me putting my underwear on or maybe me taking my underwear off. Yeah, that's a common thing to do in bedroom.
In bedroom, in sleepwalking, too.

Speaker 1 I used to sleepwalk, and it was, and for some reason, I would always just sleepwalk to my drawer and put on an extra pair of underwear and then just go back to bed.

Speaker 1 And my boyfriend at the time did that too. He put on some of your underwear?

Speaker 1 I was sleepwalking.

Speaker 1 Not mine, his own.

Speaker 1 That's such a funny thing to do in your sleepwalkers. I know.
Because you know what it is, though? It's because

Speaker 1 it's a state of

Speaker 1 panic where you think you're not dressed. Oh, you're trying to dress.
You're like, oh, I'm so sorry. I better get dressed.

Speaker 1 You act as if there's other people in your house. And you're like, oh, my God.
I'm sorry. I fell asleep naked and I got to put some pants on.

Speaker 1 I've had dreams, like naked dreams, but I think a lot of people think that they're like vulnerability or something like that. That's what your brain is trying to express.

Speaker 1 But in mine, I'm always just convincing everybody, like, this is fine. This is fine.
Okay, you don't like it? I'll put on a shirt.

Speaker 1 Just make your wear a shirt. Just naked from the waist down.
I think if psychologically your brain is trying to express penis.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's vulnerability or someone just it's penis. Have you had night terrors before, either of you?

Speaker 1 No, I get that thing, just that thing where you're like 80% asleep, just falling asleep, and then you go, yeah,

Speaker 1 you have a mini dream where you're falling for a split second. Yeah, I've had that.
I've had like crazy nightmares where I've woken up like panting, like,

Speaker 1 oh my god, that, you know, my heart is going so fast, but never is that because you're

Speaker 1 night bitch. Are you night bitch? I'm night bitch.

Speaker 1 Uh, I'm giving night bitch. Um,

Speaker 1 uh, yeah, it's uh

Speaker 1 what's night bitch? Oh, night bitch is a movie with Amy Adams about she's turning into a dog. It's about like

Speaker 1 is this a real movie? Yeah, it came out last year. I think it's like whatever, a metaphor for menopause or motherhood.

Speaker 1 Something female.

Speaker 1 That's another, she's done a couple of movies that are like that stuff going on in the night and her sleeping and she's stalking around an empty house and it's a metaphor for something. Yeah.
Arrival.

Speaker 1 For penis.

Speaker 1 Enchanted.

Speaker 1 Dave, what's going on with you, my friend? Well, speaking of Enchanted, I went to go see a movie about Princess. Oh,

Speaker 1 is it about Princess Dai? Yeah, I went to see Spencer starring

Speaker 1 from Twilight. Yeah.
No, I went to see with my family the live-action Snow White movie.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Have you guys heard about it?

Speaker 1 I've only heard all the scandals going on. Yeah, I haven't.
It's a big flop. Yeah, it's a big flop.
And it's, yeah, I've heard heard scandal after scandal about it. I can't remember what the news is.

Speaker 1 People are talking. It's every day it's something new.
Yeah, about the snowy.

Speaker 1 It's Gal Gado and

Speaker 1 Rachel Zeckler.

Speaker 1 Rachel Zeckler. They're the new lively and Beldoni.

Speaker 1 But apart from that, you just think it's just a flop, though. It's a flop.
It is a flop just in terms of money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what I've been hearing mostly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think it was also not previewed. It's one of those things where critics didn't get to see it until it was already released.
Who cares about that?

Speaker 1 Disney?

Speaker 1 I think it's better to have no reviews than have people saying like, this stinks, don't go. It's like, I saw it has like, it's one of the lowest ever movies on IMDb.
It's like 1.6 or something.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy. And what I can tell you is, it's not that bad.
No. Okay.
It's.

Speaker 1 It's as good. I mean, I don't know if it's as good as it could be, but certainly these movies that are live-action remakes of

Speaker 1 animated movies can't be that good. Yeah.
I mean, I haven't seen any of the Lion King or

Speaker 1 I was going to say Princess Mermaid. That's not right.
Little Mermaid. I did see Princess Little Mermaid.
I've seen, I think, all of them, and I don't know that I've seen any of the originals.

Speaker 1 What's your take on Disney? Like, the remakes, the originals? Did you grow up with Disney?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I grew up with Disney, and I loved all those movies, but I haven't seen, I don't think I've seen any remakes they're not very interesting to me but i i suppose they're not for me right they're kids movies that's the other thing is very few kids are uh got to see previews as movie

Speaker 1 i just i don't snow white was not one of my faves i don't know why I mean, and you could ask that about a lot of movies like right now, but like who asked for it.

Speaker 1 But like, I guess you could say that about any movie, but I'm just surprised. I wouldn't have guessed that they were, that that was an idea in someone's head.

Speaker 1 Like, let's, let's remake yeah snow white but i guess they're doing that with their like it's it's an overhaul of the disney movies they're just remaking everything they're resetting the snow white

Speaker 1 swu

Speaker 1 um yeah i think a lot of like snow white is beloved because it was like the first of its type and it won an oscar and then a bunch of little oscars they seven little ones yeah it's very cute oh really yeah i never saw snow white i so i but i know it like i know it's famous i know it's got the dwarves dwarves Dwarfs.

Speaker 1 Dwarfs. Yeah.
It's got seven of them. They sing hi-ho, hi-ho.
Yeah. Okay.
They sing

Speaker 1 they whistle while you work. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That might be the same song.

Speaker 1 No, they're different. Okay.
Well, you're the expert. I haven't seen it.
Because I just saw it.

Speaker 1 I know she gets dressed by... Wait, does she get dressed by birds? By birds, yes, I think so.

Speaker 1 She also, there's an evil queen who likes to look in the mirror and the mirror says who's the prettiest fairest just picturing getting dra like dressed by a bunch of birds and they're just shitting everywhere yeah they can't imagine they're doing a good job like yeah they can't work the buttons with their beaks

Speaker 1 and snow white's just like rereading a newspaper avian flu what

Speaker 1 get out of you guys I think that I forget between Snow White and because both of them, Sleeping Beauty and Snow White, they both fall asleep, right? And it's something magical goes on. A kiss.

Speaker 1 Are they both awoken by a kiss? Oh, yeah. She gets as there's a poison apple.
Oh, yeah, poison apple, right? Right, right.

Speaker 1 I heard they didn't use a good apple. What do they use? Are they delicious? I heard there's a type.
Oh, no, what is it called?

Speaker 1 It's a, it's a specific type of apple. I knew the name of it yesterday, and now I forget, but it's like the

Speaker 1 red apple that looks like it could be a snow white apple. It's called something like a snow white apple.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But I heard that, and I don't know, but I heard that it wasn't up to snuff this apple. Oh, really? Even with CGI, they couldn't.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I also haven't seen it, but that's.

Speaker 1 Oh, guys. Got to see it.

Speaker 1 Originally, I remember one of the early controversies was the dwarves were going to be played by,

Speaker 1 they weren't going to be dwarves. They're just going to be seven dudes.
Yeah, there's seven.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 they're basically CGI guys.

Speaker 1 Oh, they are? Yeah, but they have seven different voice actors, but I don't think the voice actors are physical actors. And doesn't Dopey talk?

Speaker 1 Dopey, well, that's the thing. Dopey comes out of his

Speaker 1 shell.

Speaker 1 I was watching it and I was like, huh, maybe Dopey doesn't talk. Because I didn't know that was a thing about Dopey.
Yeah. He was.
And then was Dopey.

Speaker 1 What's Dopey about him? Is he just doesn't talk? I don't even remember what.

Speaker 1 What are they? Dopey, sleepy. Yep,

Speaker 1 sleepy sleeps. Blitzen.
Blitzen. Grumpy's in a bad mood.
Doc seems to be the guy with the glasses. Yeezy is one of them.
Yeezy? Yep.

Speaker 1 Sneezy. Sneezy.
Sneezy.

Speaker 1 And that's not a personality trait. Doc? I don't say Doc.

Speaker 1 What do we got? We got five? We've got five, including Dopey. Happy? Bashball.
Happy and Bashfall. Bashball.

Speaker 1 And those are all.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't know what Dopey's deal is, except that I know he...

Speaker 1 He puts those gems up to his eyes and it goes all crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was funny. He's actually really

Speaker 1 cute in this. Yeah.
Bashball? Nope. Dopey.
Adopy. Okay.
Yeah. I loved dopey in the original.
I mean, I've seen it a million years ago, like the original one. And then...

Speaker 1 And I was in a small play where I got to be... Who was I? I might have been Doc.
Oh, sure. Because he had the beard.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Was this age?

Speaker 1 Eight or nine?

Speaker 1 You didn't think like Doc was a real doc, though. He wouldn't be working in the mines if he was an actual doc.
But he is the one that they...

Speaker 1 in this movie anyway yeah when she gets poisoned he's like oh better pump her stuff

Speaker 1 he performs a tracheotomy on her uh and then she falls asleep and then there's not a prince in this one there's like a uh

Speaker 1 it's I gotta tell you, this movie's a little woke. Oh, yeah.
Or don't they do a handshake and she wakes up or something?

Speaker 1 I just mean the queen is hoarding wealth and all the everyone else has turned to crime. And

Speaker 1 so it's a criminal. It's a bandits that are in the sexy head bandit is in charge of kissing.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 And also in the group of bandits, there's a little person, but all the dwarfs are CGI.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 it sounds very convoluted. No, it's as easy as it comes.

Speaker 1 When you were younger, do you recall the Disney Vault as it being like one of their key advertisements? What does that mean? They'd be like, we're opening the Disney Vault and we're just selling

Speaker 1 Little Merman for a month.

Speaker 1 And then they'd take it off shelves, which, I mean, maybe that worked as a business.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Like, they would advertise, okay, we are opening the Disney Vault. Okay.
You can buy this movie that you wouldn't otherwise be able to buy

Speaker 1 for a limited time. For a limited time.

Speaker 1 before it goes back in the vault oh yeah i don't know i don't remember that but and all the uh

Speaker 1 vhs cases were puffy yeah puffy were they puffy or were they just big they were big they were big was there nothing puffy about them it might have been a little puffy

Speaker 1 were they squishable

Speaker 1 uh yeah you could sleep with one for sure um

Speaker 1 did you what was your uh your association with disney do you watch all the movies did you go to disneyland yeah i went to disneyland which is Well, wait, which is the one in Florida?

Speaker 1 Is that Disneyland? Disney World. Oh, that's Disney.
Okay, I only went to Disney World then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I liked

Speaker 1 Donald Duck. Sure.
The classics. Yeah.
Goofy. Speaking of Pants Duck is pantsless.
My brother and I, what?

Speaker 1 Donald Duck is pantsless. Yeah, he sure is.

Speaker 1 My brother and I were obsessed with Goof Troop. I remember.

Speaker 1 We loved Goofy, a goofy movie, a goofy movie. and whatever the offshoot ones.
There was like a bunch of goofy movies, I think. Goofy.
And then Goof Troop.

Speaker 1 And then we had Game Boy, and we played Goof Troop the Game on Game Boy. And we loved that.

Speaker 1 And then just for like girly things, I loved Beauty and the Beast. Like Belle, probably.
Belle and Princess Jasmine. You know what? The Belle, the Beauty and the Beast live action.
It's okay.

Speaker 1 But it's also like...

Speaker 1 I mean, I've only seen clippets from it, but

Speaker 1 in the cartoon, it's all cartoons and stuff. But in the the remake, she's a real woman, and then he's like a weird beast guy.
Yeah, it kind of doesn't just doesn't read the same

Speaker 1 and in the real life, uh, Josh Gads there. Oh, yeah, as

Speaker 1 a cup. Nope.
I just think as an animated cartoon, like the whole beast thing was just easier to overlook that he's a girl and a beast because it was just whatever, they're just cartoons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think making it live action is a bit.

Speaker 1 Well, you're wrong. It's actually really comforting, comforting and hot, and there's some throbbing going on under there my

Speaker 1 technical difficulty oh sure

Speaker 1 about

Speaker 1 um i got too hot and bothered by

Speaker 1 the beast

Speaker 1 there used to be a tv show that was beauty of the beast with ron pearlman and linda hamilton yeah and that he lived at the sewer well it was very hot because he looked like a lion he didn't look like a buffalo man yeah and he was i feel like that was a Friday night show Yes, yeah, and maybe like four adults, but at the same time like what adult was watching Beauty and the Beast

Speaker 1 Yes, I remember the soap opera the Beauty and the Beast one.

Speaker 1 Well, I just remember like uh I don't know that I've watched it but saw some scenes and then some ads and I couldn't it seemed kind of scary to me as a kid. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this one okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He looked like a lion face. Yes.
He looks like that woman who gets the cat,

Speaker 1 the plastic surgery looks like like a cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And this ran from 1987 to 1990.

Speaker 1 So did they have like an ongoing on again, on the exact way?

Speaker 1 Like, were they just together as a couple the whole time?

Speaker 1 I'm just looking at

Speaker 1 the names of the characters.

Speaker 1 Ron Perlman as Vincent the Beast. Sure.

Speaker 1 Jay

Speaker 1 Acovone as

Speaker 1 Deputy DA Joe Maxwell. Oh, maybe he solved crime.
And Linda Hamilton as assistant district attorney Catherine Chandler. Oh, so this was a procedural with the beast.
Beauty and the lawyer.

Speaker 1 Beauty and the DA, the adventures and romance of a sensitive and cultured lion man

Speaker 1 and a crusading assistant district attorney in Manhattan. Why does he have all those candles then? I think, doesn't he live in the sewers? In the sewers.
I know. I remember the

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 whatever you would call it i don't know the cinematography like the lensing it was filtered in a way that was very like creamy you know yeah um i love it in the remake of beauty and the beast do they have how do they do like do they do the dishware and everybody how is that they do live-action dishes

Speaker 1 they use regular dishes just on invisible strings they uh they snuck into a greek wedding sold a bunch of dishes saved the dishes before they got smashed. This is the like this is how

Speaker 1 like growing up with all these different types of like the dishes we're talking and the beasts were kind of guys a bit and then also um

Speaker 1 like I feel like and then uh I also like girls had crushes.

Speaker 1 I don't know if this was like this for little boys, but like girls had crushes on like inanimate objects or the beast or like Robin Hood was a fox. Oh, you hear the Robin Hood fox Casper the ghost.

Speaker 1 I had a huge crush on Casper. When you say inanimate objects, I thought you meant like, yeah, I had a crush on a bench.
No, kind of, because

Speaker 1 of Chip, the little chipped cup. The little guy.
Yeah, the little guy. But like, he's too young.
Well, I was young. I was young.
Well, I don't currently have a crush on him, but

Speaker 1 when you

Speaker 1 like Casper, is it from the movie? or from the cartoon or comic book? Well, see,

Speaker 1 the movie. Yeah.
Well, okay, so this was a confusing part era in my life because I'm,

Speaker 1 I sit, I, since watching that movie, I loved Casper. The one with Christina Ricci and Devin Sawa.
Classic. And that was their, Christina Ricci and Devin

Speaker 1 Sawa were having

Speaker 1 a time making movies. Like Devin Salva was in Little Giants, and then he was in, I don't know the order of it, but he was in Casper.
Then he was in

Speaker 1 Wild America with Jonathan Taylor Thomas and Rad Renfrew, I think. And then he was in something else, too.
I forget. And then a bunch of other stuff.

Speaker 1 And then Christina Ricci was in Now and Then and Devin Sawa was also in Now and Then. One of my favorite movies.
And this was like it all in a short time. And then, so I watched Casper.

Speaker 1 And when, and this is like a monumental

Speaker 1 event in every

Speaker 1 pre-pubescent girl's life is when Devin Sawa as the human Casper descended down the stairs and we're all like, oh my gosh, it's him. But is that the end of the movie? Yeah, at the end of the movie,

Speaker 1 I'm not sorry. And

Speaker 1 what does she say to him? What's the like classic line that I've never seen? Can I keep you? I think yes.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so I

Speaker 1 gross. It was confusing for me because

Speaker 1 so I have since learned that I'm bisexual. I've known that for some years, but at the time when I was a kid, I didn't know.
And I think it probably took me a long time to find out because

Speaker 1 I was attracted to both Christina Ricci and Devin Salva And the ghost. And so I'm like, maybe that's just.
Maybe you're trisexual. Yeah, maybe I'm just attracted to everybody.
I'm trisexual.

Speaker 1 I'll try anything sexual.

Speaker 1 So she says, can I keep you at the end? Does that mean he doesn't?

Speaker 1 He says that to her. He says it to her.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Does he have parents now? Like, or do they care that he's alive? Oh, they're dead. No, his parents are dead.
He has the stinky uncles, stinky, fat. So, and, and,

Speaker 1 Doc.

Speaker 1 No, but it's something like that. Stinky Bad.
Stinky, Fatso, and like.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 It might be Doc, no. Casper now.

Speaker 1 Starring Father Guido, starred Ducci. In the movie, at the very beginning of the movie,

Speaker 1 Dan Aykroyd makes a cameo as Ray stands. Yes.
He runs out. So then Ghostbusters and Casper exist in the same universe.
The Crypt Keeper apparently exists as well in this universe. Sure.

Speaker 1 It's stinky, fat, so, and stretch, I say. Stretch.
Stretch, who's the one? Yes, oh, yeah. He's always stretching around everything.
That's his ghostly power.

Speaker 1 And the other one, the fat one, he eats a bunch of oatmeal.

Speaker 1 It's got this kid from...

Speaker 1 Are you killing me, Smalls? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, is he? No, that's not. He's not.
He's not. He squints.
He squints. He's from the sand lot.

Speaker 1 Do you want to kiss the

Speaker 1 lifeguard? I don't know. Oh, Oh, you gotta check out the sand lot.
Have you not seen the sand lot? Yeah, but I saw like... Yeah,

Speaker 1 I kind of don't really remember it that much.

Speaker 1 Wait, he was also in the opposite of sex with Christina Ricci?

Speaker 1 I think we're getting too obsessed with these. Wait, it's getting all tangled up.
Is Christina Ricci also...

Speaker 1 Wait, he was also in the big green when you were killing me, Simal? I love... Yes, I love the big green.
I love the big green. It is a good poster with just the...

Speaker 1 Okay, I apologize, listener, for all these visual clues and

Speaker 1 actors' names flying around. When we're talking about the poster, we're talking about the goalie getting a crotch full of soccer balls.

Speaker 1 Steve Gutenberg in his prime.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have a crush on him, maybe?

Speaker 1 I'm sure I did during that movie. Did you ever see any of the Police Academy movies? Yes.

Speaker 1 Was there any particular officer you had a crush on? No, I kind of don't.

Speaker 1 I grew up with like older cousins who introduced me to these movies, and I don't really remember a lot of them, but I remember watching naked. Older cousins you had a crush on?

Speaker 1 I'm sure I did. I'm sure I did.
Dave, who's your police academy crush? I'll give, here's one hint.

Speaker 1 I don't know what his character's name is, but we know it's Michael Woods.

Speaker 1 I liked

Speaker 1 Tackleberry. He had all sorts of guns.
Oh, he was the gun guy. And then I liked Bobcat Gothwaite.
He was great. Oh, shit.
But he wasn't in the OG. He came out.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Anyways, we could go on and on forever. Anyway, check out the new

Speaker 1 Snow White.

Speaker 1 Take your kids to it. They don't care.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the kids don't care about these things. They don't hold it so precious.
I think we need to chill a bit.

Speaker 1 Although my kids both were like, eh. Yeah.
Why are we going to this? We didn't want to go to it.

Speaker 1 Here's why we were going, it's spring break. We got 14 days to fill.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, everybody go check it out because nobody else has. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're going to have a lot of legroom in the theater.

Speaker 1 A lot of leg room. Yeah,

Speaker 1 most movie theaters have.

Speaker 1 There's so many people watching the movie.

Speaker 1 I took my prosthetic leg off in the movie theater one time. It was Dunkirk.
I took it off. Just because

Speaker 1 I was going to sit here or out of respect.

Speaker 1 Take your hat off for the national anthem.

Speaker 1 I don't remember why. Did the bassy sound effects shake it off?

Speaker 1 Just blew it right off me. Whoa.

Speaker 1 We went to a matinee and we were sitting at the side where there's only like two seats at the very side aisle seats. And

Speaker 1 we had, I don't know,

Speaker 1 I was just feeling free-spirited, I guess. And I just wanted to be relaxed.
And I think everyone was so spread out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was me and my boyfriend at the time. And yeah, just leg off.
Are you? Just for the experience. When's the last time you were at a full movie theater?

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 for me, it's been years. I go, so I the only I don't watch a lot of movies.

Speaker 1 That's why they're not full. I know, and I know, but even in general, like I don't, I'm a TV watcher.
I'm not a movie watcher that much, and but I do love horror.

Speaker 1 And so, if there's a new horror movie, I will go see it. So, screams, the screams, I always go see, and that's always full on like the first.
Yeah, that's true. Actually, what was

Speaker 1 the time I went to Conclave and Robbie Williams Monkey movie, those were both pretty full because they were Tuesday cheap matinees. Horror movies are usually pretty full

Speaker 1 in the first week. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oppenheimer, full. And Barbie.
And Barbie full. Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Barbie, definitely. Jake Pack.
Yeah, remember Barbenheimer? Wow, what a fun all-off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's going to be this summer's Barbenheimer? Jake Paul and Luke Paul. Who's the other Paul brother? Logan.
Logan. That's Luke.
Are they both coming? Are they putting out contrasting movies? Yeah.

Speaker 1 One about masculinity, one about femininity.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite, before we move on, your favorite horror movie? Or could you not pick a movie?

Speaker 1 It's hard, right? It's hard, but my favorite franchise is Scream. I love the Screams.

Speaker 1 And Drag Me to Hell. I love Drag Me to Hell.
Drag Me to Hell is one of the best. It's so good.
Right off of Allison Lohman. Yes.
Yeah. And Justin Long.

Speaker 1 Sam Raimi film. Sam Raimi, yeah.
Yeah. That's good.
I love both of them very similar tone. I like it's it's campy, but it's a little bit creepy still.
Yeah. It's got that like suspensey.

Speaker 1 It's not totally comical, but it is comical. Do you find that you can re-watch a horror movie? Because I don't know.
Oh, yeah. I always have them playing in the background.
Yeah. That's your like

Speaker 1 white voice. Yeah.
Yep. I like it.
I find comfort in them, I guess. Just a spoiler when talking about Drag Me to Hell.
If I

Speaker 1 so.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 because I want to talk about this phenomenon of movies. Are there any movies where like the the title ruins the last or like refers to the last thing

Speaker 1 you see? Oh, like there will be blood. You're like, there's no blood.
Oh, there is.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And drag me to hell. You're like, she's not getting dragged to hell.
I think I, yeah, I actually think I went in because you don't know if if or who's going to be dragged to hell.

Speaker 1 I don't even think I was really even thinking about it. I thought maybe it's like an

Speaker 1 just an expression. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Drag me to hell.
Drag me to hell.

Speaker 1 One of those common colloquialisms.

Speaker 1 Well, anyway. Drag me to hell.

Speaker 1 Knock me over with a feather.

Speaker 1 Graham, what's going on with you? Well, I was, as Courtney can attest, I was out in Ontario.

Speaker 1 Went and did a couple recordings of the debaters. Whereabouts? Did you go to Pitchin or Waterloo? We went, well, maybe, I don't know where we were close to on the map.
No, it wasn't close at all.

Speaker 1 Not really. I went to Toronto, Competent City, you know, capital of Canada, just like

Speaker 1 Canada? Yeah, capital of Canada. They just got it.
They just moved it over to Toronto. Ottawa's like, we can't.
We can't even. Yeah, I can't even.

Speaker 1 We shouldn't be the capital. There's all sorts of great streets.
King, queen, Dufferin,

Speaker 1 Danforth. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Eglinton. I don't know if I can name any more streets than those.
And then we went to Barry. Then we went to Barry, Ontario.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Where is that? Where is that? Yeah, where is it? It's an hour and a bit away from North. And

Speaker 1 it's like

Speaker 1 around Muskoka, Collingwood. It's like on your way to Cottage Country.
That's where Barry is.

Speaker 1 That's their slogan: we're the gateway. We're the gateway to Cottage Country.
So whatever. Cottage country or whatever.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Courtney was debating. There's always something happening in Barry.

Speaker 1 Were you in favor of pro or against that? It was against.

Speaker 1 Yes. It was a very fun debate.
Yeah. What is

Speaker 1 because I've heard of it many times, but there's like a million cities in Southern California and Ontario. I mean,

Speaker 1 yes. Yep.

Speaker 1 That I'm like,

Speaker 1 they're all just kind of get clumped together in my mind. Are they distinctive from each other? Would people in Barrie be like, oh, we're nothing like the people from Vaughan? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, probably. Yeah, they would.
They would.

Speaker 1 And that's why it's fun to like, because you can always, especially in the debaters or even just doing stand-up, you can toss out the name of their rival town.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we ate them.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you can, yeah, but they are distinctive enough where,

Speaker 1 um, yeah, I don't know. They all have a little

Speaker 1 flavor, a little something, something. I mean, do we need Ottawa and Oshawa? Yeah, I get rid of those schwa.
That's what I really want. Well, those are two completely different cities, though.

Speaker 1 Couldn't be more opposite, Oshawa and Ottawa. The Sha and the To really are worlds apart.
Yeah, that's true. And like, Oshawa, very

Speaker 1 blue-collar kind of town. Is there what is steel plant there or car

Speaker 1 plant?

Speaker 1 Car plants. Phil Hanley was from there.
Phil Hanley was from there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we're in Barry.

Speaker 1 And the one thing I was doing research about Barry, what they were famous for at the turn of the last century was for ice. That was the big industry there.

Speaker 1 They would, yeah, in the winter, they would chop out cubes of ice,

Speaker 1 bring it to a train, roll it in sawdust, and then ship it all over the country. Why sawdust? I guess it insulates it.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 And uh, so that was their big and you would put it in your ice box, yeah, yeah, you put it in like a metal, I guess, like a steel thing, and you put like a block of ice in it.

Speaker 1 My grandmother remembered when that was really, yeah, she was like, Damn, we had one of those because it was only like would have only been in the 50s, 40s, 50s.

Speaker 1 They would have got fridges, yeah, fridges came around.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 in any case, yeah, that's why food is so gross.

Speaker 1 continue that thought well i mean like

Speaker 1 like think of how many like canned goods

Speaker 1 like we still have just because

Speaker 1 canning it was so necessary that good why do we have so many cans and jars and whatnot yeah it's like uh because you couldn't refrigerate you know any fruit or anything so now you that's why you can still buy canned peaches or whatever yeah well but a canned peach

Speaker 1 it is delicious it is good. It's so slippery, though.
Yeah, that's true. They are very slippery and slimy.

Speaker 1 I'm always blown away by how recent certain things, like you learn about, I don't know, this, you'll have to maybe fact check this in post or something, but I

Speaker 1 do it right now right now. Technology is crazy.

Speaker 1 Check on my

Speaker 1 Blackberry. See if this is right.
Because I heard, I mean, it doesn't seem that crazy, but just like only as recently as like the 70s, people weren't taking

Speaker 1 hot showers just for the luxury of shower, like a nice hot shower to relax in. Like that concept wasn't

Speaker 1 around until, like, you didn't think you showered for necessity and utility, and that was it. But, like, a hot shower is like a de-stressor.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's, it's helpful for comfort and it's like a luxurious

Speaker 1 it's an everyday luxury, but like in the seven, it's like wasn't until the 70s, I guess, that people even thought to do that.

Speaker 1 And there was also like, you know, from cowboy times to, what, the 20s, if you wanted a bath, it had to be like hot water

Speaker 1 poured into

Speaker 1 the resource of hot water. Was it Sophie Buttle talking about how her

Speaker 1 whole family would share a bath? Like they would like reuse the water for each other? It was some guest of ours.

Speaker 1 Sorry, Sophie, if it's not you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's

Speaker 1 yeah, a lot of those things that you just assume have always kind of been around. Yeah.
Yeah. Like Icebox, I was like, okay, well, that was the major industry of this town.

Speaker 1 That's why the town existed. Do you think anyone was like looking forward, being like, this is going to live for this is going to last forever? Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 People are always going to need ice and we're the place to get it. And one guy is like, I'm leaving this ice town.
I'm going to be an elevator operator.

Speaker 1 A job with a future. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say, because there's always like.

Speaker 1 the way we perceive time. I always see these posts online that are like,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 Cleopatra was still alive when we had Humphrey Bogart.

Speaker 1 Or like, there were still like woolly mammoths around

Speaker 1 at the time of

Speaker 1 Cleopatra.

Speaker 1 That's got to be it. Or like Cleopatra was alive closer to our time than to when the

Speaker 1 ice age? No, when the pyramids were built.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit. Yeah.
Oh, man. I mean, yeah, that is crazy, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Barry, famous for ice, and their thing, they had like a couple shops that they really taught. That Sawa was a little bit closer to our time.

Speaker 1 He made idle hands closer to our time than he made Casper.

Speaker 1 And so, you know, in a small town, everybody's got their thing, right? This is the check out the brewery or this restaurant or, you know, got to go to the park or whatever.

Speaker 1 So there's a restaurant, not going to say the name, but their big thing on the menu, and I mean, it it was glaring on the menu. It was like ice.

Speaker 1 He had some of our berry ice.

Speaker 1 Got it out of the lake.

Speaker 1 Do you want a Coke? Do you want anything in it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You want to leave sawdust on? Take sawdust off.

Speaker 1 Sawdust is the garnish. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 Ooh, this sawdust. That's a smell I like.
Sawdust? Yeah. Yeah.
Especially covering up the vomit all around me.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 this restaurant, their big thing was uh was beer that they had all sorts of billions different beer and their nachos are supposed to be the best nachos and they're like we've we layer it with cheese it's not they're not soggy at all they're like the best nachos you've ever had honest to god i think in my top three bottom nachos i've ever had in my life

Speaker 1 guest absolutely bottom nachos

Speaker 1 yeah no that's i knew that was going there they put so much sauce on it that it was worse. I had to eat it with a fork and knife.
No, no, no. That is bad.

Speaker 1 It's so brazen to brag about your nachos like that. Yes.
When it's like

Speaker 1 the hubris, because you know that they're layering them and then they want to impress you with all this extra shit. And it's just going to be soggy and disgusting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was exactly soggy and disgusting.

Speaker 1 Speaking of soggy and disgusting, you want to know my berry experience of that exact date? Oh, yes.

Speaker 1 So I didn't stay overnight. I'm just not going to tell you the name of the restaurant.
It was Soggy's.

Speaker 1 I told you not to say. Soggy's card and girl.

Speaker 1 You couldn't tell by the name.

Speaker 1 So we had like the option of staying the night in Barry

Speaker 1 for those of us coming from Toronto. And that initially was my plan.
And so I live in Toronto and I have a cat at home. And I thought, well, Barry's only like an hour-ish away.

Speaker 1 And like I left around 4 p.m.

Speaker 1 with my ride to get to Barry. And we were planning on coming back the next morning.
So I was was like, my cat doesn't need a check-in from a neighbor.

Speaker 1 I'll just

Speaker 1 get the kiddie cam. She's pretty, she's an old cat.
She's a senior cat. She's pretty good at like self-regulating.
So, I'll just leave enough food out for her for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 And if I happen to come back mid-morning or even later, she'll be fine for like whatever, not even 24 hours. And so I put out enough food around 4 p.m.

Speaker 1 She had already eaten her full day's worth at this point. So, she's already should be full.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I go to Barry, and around,

Speaker 1 I find out that someone is driving back the same night. And I switched my plans and I decided not to stay over at the hotel and to come home that night.
You missed the hotel. I missed the soggy.

Speaker 1 No, I chose. I missed the hotel.

Speaker 1 I was just waiting because you were like, speaking of soggy, what's going to happen? Well,

Speaker 1 glad you asked. I came, so I ended up coming home.
So I'm away from my apartment from

Speaker 1 4 p.m. till 10.
I got home at at 10 p.m. Record timing, actually.
That's pretty good. I get in the door.
Sounds like a pretty wild show. I know.

Speaker 1 We'd like to start nice and early. Yeah.
We, I get, I walk in the door. My cat's bowl is fully empty.
She has eaten all, both double portions for tomorrow by in a six-hour window. Wow.

Speaker 1 She's eaten all of it for no, for no reason. For no reason.
She had already eaten that day. And then I go over to her chair where she was sitting and she barfed it all up.

Speaker 1 And she had barfed it all up. And I was actually blown away that she had done this because

Speaker 1 that's what me going out from like four to ten is like just a regular day.

Speaker 1 I don't know if she sensed that I had overloaded her bowl and maybe she sensed a shift in routine and that's why she did that.

Speaker 1 But I was actually she needed to have some extra strength to fight your landlord.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. So I came

Speaker 1 I came home to that Barry Barf.

Speaker 1 I stayed in the hotel and it was fine.

Speaker 1 The breakfast, I should also mention, worst breakfast. It was just awful.

Speaker 1 You just couldn't get your food right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Soggy, dry? I don't know. It all looks so bad that I just took yogurts back to my room after.
I forget what you're doing. So you're doing free.
What are you going to do? Exactly.

Speaker 1 The soggy waffles, the soggy pancakes, and the eggs. You know what I mean? It was like continental, you mean? Yeah.
okay. Yeah, but not, I don't know what continentality.
I have a question.

Speaker 1 Antarctica.

Speaker 1 One of the reasons why I decided to come back is because I've stayed.

Speaker 1 So I've been doing a lot of like road gigs recently, and it's minor hockey league season, and the kids are running up and down those halls, and I am a light sleeper.

Speaker 1 And I figured that this seemed like the hotel where they might be. Yeah.
Were they there?

Speaker 1 There,

Speaker 1 yeah, there were kids. There were like little kids running around and and screaming.

Speaker 1 And also, I find anytime that I'm at a hotel where it's on, like if I go on Hotwire or anything that's booked for me,

Speaker 1 my room right across the hall from the elevator. So I get to hear the soulful sounds of people.
The only other way I've ever

Speaker 1 changed hotel rooms was once when I it was in Toronto at the, what's the Fairmont? Yeah, Royal York. Royal York, which is like a very fancy hotel, but also 100 years old and all the rooms are tiny.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like very,

Speaker 1 very fancy lobby, and then the rooms are just normal. Also, sorry, go ahead.
But then I

Speaker 1 also,

Speaker 1 the loudest

Speaker 1 elevator in the world. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, it was right across from my room. And I had to, like, within two minutes of getting in the room, I was like, I need to renegotiate this.
I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 I just picked up just for the Juno, some of the, like, the package. they give you like a welcome package, and you have to go pick it up at the Fairmont.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And they told, they were like, this, this Fairmont hotel is haunted. They're all haunted.
You go to any Fairmont, and they will tell you it's haunted. The Royal York is haunted.

Speaker 1 The Ottawa one is haunted. And now this one, are they all haunted?

Speaker 1 The Hotel Vancouver, yeah, I guess that's the one. And then it's not by the same ghost, though.
No, it's the same ghost as Casper. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they say on a quiet night, they'll say, Can I keep you? Can I I keep you? You belong to hell or whatever.

Speaker 1 Can I drag you to hell? She was telling me that the one in Ottawa,

Speaker 1 it's the wife of, she said that

Speaker 1 the architect or the owner, someone

Speaker 1 was a Titanic

Speaker 1 designer

Speaker 1 or sinker. Oh, sinker.

Speaker 1 And I don't know.

Speaker 1 The wife haunts the hotel. And then the, yeah, the.
The Titanic sank. This person died.
Then they got on a train to the hotel.

Speaker 1 I feel like if you're going to haunt anywhere, and a hotel is a pretty good place because there's like a lot of turnover, different things happening all the time.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're in a haunted house, you're just walking around the sand, floating, I guess. Floating around the street.

Speaker 1 Is there a thing you're supposed to say to a ghost where you're like, I mean you no harm, just trying to get some sleep? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think mean you no harm, or I'm doing what are they doing? Do you know I'm binding you? I'm binding you. Do you know that you have unfinished? Have you ever heard that? That's like

Speaker 1 I heard I'm binding you either. It's uh, guys, you both need to sit down and watch a little movie called The Craft, okay? Oh,

Speaker 1 did they say that in The Craft? Yeah, I bind you. Why don't they remember that? Okay.
Well,

Speaker 1 it's time for a rewatch.

Speaker 1 I'm getting my Ouija board out. I'm watching the, I'm staying at the Hotel Vancouver.
I'm telling the ghost that they're lightest of feathers if it's a board.

Speaker 1 There's a scene in it where a bus driver says to them as they're getting off the bus, they say, be careful out there. There are a lot of weirdos.
And she says, sir, we are the weirdos.

Speaker 1 And I say that in my head a lot of of times when I get off a bus. Classic.

Speaker 1 We are the weirdos. We are the weirdos.
You're supposed to say thanks, driver. Yeah, thank you, driver.
I'm weird.

Speaker 1 Should we move on to some overheards? I think that's a brilliant idea.

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Speaker 3 Overheard.

Speaker 1 Overheards, a segment on this here show where if you hear things, we want to hear them too. It's only right.
It's only fair to, and we'll let you hear our things. It's a straight-up deal.

Speaker 1 We always like to start with the guests. Courtney, do you have an overhead? Okay, oh my gosh, yes.
Okay. I got to tell you, I feel very

Speaker 1 nervous about this because one of my

Speaker 1 shirt on.

Speaker 1 I'll picture you going into my drawer and putting my underwear on.

Speaker 1 Now, listeners will remember, you had one of the all-time great things. This is the thing.
This is the thing is that I didn't overheard that.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize how funny it was in the moment. And then it made it onto one of my albums because the reception was so positive and glowing.
Now, this was thank you. This was about a roombox.
Yes.

Speaker 1 It was, yeah. It was a maintenance guy in my, in my, it was just a comical exchange.
And, um, and I don't remember my second one because we're still up for debate whether I did a second one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're not sure. I'm not 100% sure that I was here twice.
Yeah. But this one, okay.

Speaker 1 This one

Speaker 1 was

Speaker 1 before I left to come here. This girl was on the phone on the subway with her girlfriend, presumably making plans for the night.
And they were discussing what their big plans.

Speaker 1 They're going to have a girls' night. What are we going to do? And she's talking about, well, we got to get martinis and we got to go dancing.
We got to go do drinks. We got to do dancing.

Speaker 1 And she's trying to convince the girl on the other end of the phone, like, no, come on, we got to go out. We got to do this.

Speaker 1 And she's, and the other girl is, I guess, making some different suggestions. Like, no, no, no, no.
Martinis, dancing. She goes, martinis and dancing tonight.

Speaker 1 That's just the vibe I'm feeling or bowling.

Speaker 1 I'm a complicated person.

Speaker 1 And I like that. I thought that was nice.
Well-rounded person. Oh, my God.
Oh, you.

Speaker 1 Yes, bowling, please. Yes, absolutely.
Martinis and then off to the bowling. Yeah, dancing in the slippery shoes.
Yeah, super easy. Super fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, that's one genre of blooper or video that I never got sick of is bowling mishaps. Oh.

Speaker 1 Not the people getting hurt, but like swinging too hard and a flower flying to the ceiling or, you know, all these kind of.

Speaker 1 It's just, I mean, my heart belongs to bowling. I love it.
Do you like martinis?

Speaker 1 No, I think I liked them when I first was able to drink because it was very martini.

Speaker 1 It was martini time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You, martinis? No, I don't.
I like the idea of them. They're so cool.
I like the aesthetic.

Speaker 1 I don't like the taste of most alcohol. The taste is very

Speaker 1 burning. Yes.
Yeah. I can't comfortably drink a martini.
I know what I like it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't choose it very often, but.

Speaker 1 Would you just like a classic olive martini?

Speaker 1 Well, my dad usually makes them, but he doesn't do it in a martini glass. He'll just do like a glass glass with ice and vodka and the tiniest bit of vermouth.
Is that what's in it? Yeah, vermouth.

Speaker 1 And he,

Speaker 1 so, like, I'll get there, we'll have a family dinner on a Sunday night, and he'll just be like, Martini boy?

Speaker 1 He doesn't call me boy.

Speaker 1 But so I have. Who's my little martini boy?

Speaker 1 It's me, Dad.

Speaker 1 Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 Anyway, yeah, I like a martini. But it's probably in my, you know,

Speaker 1 only top 30 cocktails. Fair enough.
That's fair. Maybe cracks the top 20.

Speaker 1 We'll get the full list.

Speaker 1 We'll post it on.

Speaker 1 I've always wanted to try all of the ones that used to be when we used to go for Chinese food as a kid and they had the cocktail menu. There was Rob Roy, Pink Lady.
These are classics. Classics.

Speaker 1 I've never had any of them.

Speaker 1 Rob Roy's pretty good. It's a Rob Roy.

Speaker 1 I mean, mean, is it called something else?

Speaker 1 I don't even hear anyone say Rob Roy anymore. I was thinking of a Roy Rogers.
Roy Rogers is a mock tale.

Speaker 1 It's like Coke and grenadine or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I feel like there was, you're right, there's like an era of drinks and Rob Roy and like, I mean, like, something like a Manhattan still around, but. A Rob Roy is

Speaker 1 it says, what is a Rob Roy made of ingredients? Ice. Okay, great.

Speaker 1 Got it. Check.
From Berry, maybe? Oh, Oh, yeah. Could be.
Berry.

Speaker 1 Scotch whiskey, sweet vermouth, bitters, and a lemon peel. I think if it's got vermouth in it, it's like Martini Jr.
Martini Jr.

Speaker 1 Dave, do you have an overheard? Didn't I just go?

Speaker 1 Okay, so I was at a...

Speaker 1 This isn't particularly funny either. It was just...

Speaker 1 It just felt like this is a guy who's given this information about himself a million times. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was in line at a coffee shop, and there were two people like chatting each other up or just chatting in line. They didn't know each other, but they were getting to know.

Speaker 1 This guy was giving his life story in one minute. Yeah.
And he clearly had done it before. He had it down, Pat.

Speaker 1 And he was like, yeah, well,

Speaker 1 I moved here because back home we had a family business and family and business are two things that don't always go together. And my family tree is more of a shrub.
It goes up and out.

Speaker 1 That's kind of a fun twist on the family tree. You know, my family tree is full of cactus because it's filled with pricks was one of those.
Oh, yeah. Like a classic family tree.

Speaker 1 I was like, I just can't really picture what a regular family tree looks like. So I

Speaker 1 it goes up and out. Up and out.

Speaker 1 Down and I think down and over is the traditional. Yeah, his goes back in time.
Yeah. Yeah.
It starts with two at the top and then branches off. Right.
I think a family tree can go.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 1 does it go up in terms of? It's like a pyramid.

Speaker 1 It's more like a pyramid. Yeah, it all starts with one guy.

Speaker 1 Do you have an overheard? I do. I have an overseen.
And if you don't, if you know the answer immediately, don't participate. But

Speaker 1 what is it?

Speaker 1 3.141.

Speaker 1 You got it. Pie.
I saw pie

Speaker 1 cooling on a windowsill.

Speaker 1 I saw an ad for glasses,

Speaker 1 glassware company. Wait, glasses, like drinking glasses? No, like

Speaker 1 eyeglasses.

Speaker 1 And the slogan was like something along the lines of like, with brand new technology. And it had a celebrity

Speaker 1 endorsement, I guess, on it. Who do you think, I'll tell you this, a Canadian celebrity.
Who would you say would be eyeglass?

Speaker 1 I don't know this, but I'm going to, if I I guess it right, does it ruin it as well?

Speaker 1 Nope. Okay, Howie Mandel.
No, but good guess, because he'll sell anything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, he's a glasses wearer. Yeah.
Yeah, that would make sense.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe this was their first choice, was Howie Mandel.
And they're like, well. Canadian celebrity.
Howie Mandel, he's in those ads with the terrible ads for Canadian underwear.

Speaker 1 It's a yeah. I've tried the underwear.
It's good.

Speaker 1 Because Howie said so. But no, I was like, oh, now, now I don't want any more of this underwear.
Howie Mandel wears it.

Speaker 1 You gonna guess, Courtney? Eugene Levy. Another glasses wearer.
This Canadian glasses. This guy, not a glasses wearer.
Commander Chris Hatfield.

Speaker 1 I've seen these commercials.

Speaker 1 Anyways, it just struck me as like, but he doesn't wear glasses. Like, he's not known as a glasses Jordi LaForge.
Sure. Sure.

Speaker 1 There are some famous astronauts in glasses.

Speaker 1 I would think you're actually not allowed to, like the way that fighter pilots have to have 20-20 vision. I would think that

Speaker 1 you would hope that astronauts need to as well. But like, what is

Speaker 1 Chris Hadfield has perfect pitch?

Speaker 1 Hey, boogie woogie, rock and roll in space. I'm a boogie woogie astronaut.
Check out my mustache. If people don't know who he is,

Speaker 1 you know how in America, like if a guy played a guitar on,

Speaker 1 you know, out in space, it would be a news story for one hour. We've decided to make this guy part of our cultural identity.
Yeah. So, because he played a guitar in space.

Speaker 1 He played the guitar in space. He's a Canadian astronaut.
He is,

Speaker 1 yeah. And then now he's since gone on like theater tours with his rock band.
And it is all that boogie woogie space music. Look at me.

Speaker 1 We also have overheard sent into us by people all over the world. If you want to send one in, send it into sby at maximumfund.org.
This first one comes from Nora in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 I was at the aquarium. Nora? Oh, congratulations.
Oh, yeah. Congratulations, your big win.

Speaker 1 I was in the aquarium in Chicago, standing by the window of the dolphin tank. Next to me, there was a group of little girls on a school field trip.

Speaker 1 They were about eight years old and were all wearing adorable school uniforms. Two dolphins swam up to the glass and started jumping around and swimming together.
Very playful and cute.

Speaker 1 And the group of girls all started chanting, fight, fight.

Speaker 1 I love those girls.

Speaker 1 It's dolphins.

Speaker 1 Never mind. Go on.
Dolphins are like really smart.

Speaker 1 Do they like being held captive in an aquarium? I imagine so. But why are they being playful in front of these kids? They're probably doing something we don't even understand.
Didn't they look sad?

Speaker 1 So we... They can't.
They got that permanent smile on their face. That's true.
Like a stingray.

Speaker 1 This next one comes from Emily in Charlotte, North Carolina. I was getting in the car with my eight-year-old daughter, and when I turned on the car, the screen said, How soon is now?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it said, How soon is now? by the Smiths was playing. My daughter glanced at it, and as soon as she was reading it, she's getting seated.
She said to herself, How soon is now?

Speaker 1 The ultimate brain teaser.

Speaker 1 It is. Yeah.
How soon is now? Do you want me to perform that song right now? This is the first and only do it had fields. First and only, oh, yeah, Boogie Woogie Morrissey is coming to sing.

Speaker 1 This is the first Smith song and only Smith song I knew for many years. And it just goes,

Speaker 1 Wow!

Speaker 1 That's good. You know that song? No.
Well, now you do.

Speaker 1 This last one comes from Karen C. from Clackamas, Oregon.
This is the dream one. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is an overdreamt, and I dreamed this right after listening to your bonus content about Canadian content. So, CanCon, CanCon.
Boco, Canco. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 You know, you two and I were at some sort of convention where we had to pick Christmas balls off. True? Both of us, yes.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Each one had a hole in the side, and when you looked in the hole, a music video was playing.

Speaker 1 I said I thought mine looked like the Beatles, but then Dave grabbed it out of my hand and said, let me see that.

Speaker 1 He peered inside and scoffed at me and said, that's the Beer Barrel Boys, the most famous rock band in all of Canada. I can't believe you've never heard of the Beer Barrel Boys.

Speaker 1 Beer Barrel Boys.

Speaker 1 It's everything I wanted it to be. I'm so embarrassed because I'm mean in the dream.

Speaker 1 Let me see. I'm a mean member.

Speaker 1 I know-it-all bully.

Speaker 1 Just the Beer Barrel Boys. They're the most famous rock band.
You don't know the Beer Barrel Boys, Canada's greatest band?

Speaker 1 Why do we call it Boco and CanCon? We should call it Bon Con. Bon Con.
Bon Con.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if anybody out there is interested in our, you know, our Boco, you can still become a member. Yeah, you can probably get some of the other perks at maximumfund.org/slash join.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you'll always be able to get our Boco.

Speaker 1 Well, in addition to Overheards that are written, and we also accept your phone calls and voice memos. Yeah.
If you want to call us, it's...

Speaker 1 Well, if you want to send a voice memo, put it on your phone. Send it to spy at maximumfund.org.
If you want to call us, our phone number is 1-844-779-7631. That's one.
Ugh.

Speaker 1 Spypod 1, like these people have.

Speaker 4 Hello, Dave Graham and possible guest. This is Tim from Vancouver calling.
My wife and I were at a fancy restaurant on Main Street for Valentine's Day, where we overheard a man at another table say,

Speaker 1 It's called a moose bouche, baby.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, off I go.

Speaker 1 No way, I cut him off.

Speaker 1 Off I go.

Speaker 1 Baby. It's called amuse bouche baby.
Have you, I is it what an amuse bouch is like even smaller than an appetizer? Yeah. Or is it an appetizer? I think it's like a little just like a square.

Speaker 1 It's a little small sampling. Yeah.
That they can either like slingshot into your mouth. Yep.
Or toss it from three-pointer line, see if it glows in there. That's the amuse part.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're going to have some fun throwing this at you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you guys go out for Valentine's Day? For Valentine's Day?

Speaker 1 Yeah. My wife and I went out for Valentine's Day.
On Valentine's Day?

Speaker 1 That's where they get you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everything's roses with everything. Every course, roses, roses.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, Big Rose Day for sure.
Like the biggest. The biggest.
Yeah. Carnation, Big Carnation Day for your cheaper, not rose buying.
Yeah, Yeah, sure. I get carnation.

Speaker 1 Well, I have carnation instant breakfast every day. Delicious.
You're going to love it in an instant.

Speaker 1 And, of course,

Speaker 1 I wear a pink carnation at the pickup truck. Oh, sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 American pop ribbon on the fine, fine shirt. There we go.
Next phone call.

Speaker 3 Hey, Dave and Graham and possible guests. This is Gabe from Baltimore.

Speaker 3 I was putting my three-year-old son to sleep the other night.

Speaker 3 It's kind of a difficult process because

Speaker 3 I'm not mom. So I've got that against me from the start.

Speaker 3 So usually it consists of me reading books to him and him laying down and then saying, I'm going to go see mom. So anyway, tonight,

Speaker 3 I got him settled, got him off of the mom talk.

Speaker 3 And he was laying down, his back was to me, and I was patting his back, and he was almost asleep. And he popped up and he said, Dad,

Speaker 3 let's talk about robots.

Speaker 3 Off I go.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to go talk to mom real quick.

Speaker 1 Very good attempt at bedtime tonight, Dad. I've got to go check in with mom.
I love that he's pitted these two parents together against each other.

Speaker 1 Ebracing. The only way he wins, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They neutralize each other. I've got to just form a wedge between them.
Also, you know what? Put a little of your wife's perfume on there. Yeah, Yeah, fool him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do the voice. Do the voice.
I'm your mom.

Speaker 1 I'm going to the kitchen to eat a cookie.

Speaker 1 Do an impression of your mom. Hi, Graham.
I love you. Bye.

Speaker 1 That's her leaving a message. All right, I'll do mine.

Speaker 1 Oh, David, why can't you be more like Graham?

Speaker 1 Courtney, you have a mom impression? Courtney, why can't you be more like Graham?

Speaker 1 I love both your mom

Speaker 1 and your final phone call or voice memo.

Speaker 5 Hey, Dave, Graham, and excellent guest.

Speaker 5 This is Matthew from Vancouver. I was just leaving Kingsgate Mall just around rush hour, and I was walking along Broadway, and I saw a very packed 99 bus.

Speaker 5 But at the very front of the bus, there was a woman with a twin-size mattress that she had wedged into the bus.

Speaker 5 And everyone around her just looked so furious about the situation.

Speaker 1 Off I go. My God, I mean, if there's ever a day to spring for at least a taxi to get from pointing to be the earth.
Absolutely. Mattress.
God. I hope it was a new mattress.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I was coming from Kingsgate Mall. It might have been a rental mattress from the.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's quite a track on a bus with a twin mattress. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Moving on the bus.
I've done a partial like one-eighth of a move on the bus and train. Really? Yeah.
Oh, my gosh, what a nightmare. It is.
It's a nightmare.

Speaker 1 I had like two giant bags of like clothes and trinkets. I've even done it where I like rent a rental van.
Smart. And then, but then I'm like, oh, and I have a car.
I'll just do, do so.

Speaker 1 I can do a bunch of short trips later. I just want to get all the big stuff done.
And those short trips, they go on for months.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Especially if you've got like no deadline. Yeah, it's if you can have like, I think I had a storage unit I was like visiting.
Nice. You know,

Speaker 1 seeing on on the side. Yeah, it's one of those visits and prison calls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was having conjugal visits with my storage unit.

Speaker 1 Well, that brings us to the end of this podcast. Courtney, thank you so much for being on.
Thank you for having me. Of course.
It was super fun for the third time. This was a black.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I will never forget that it was three times.

Speaker 1 Three times.

Speaker 1 And you can get... Your her album, both Wonder Woman and what's the name of the other one? Let me hold you, baby.
Let me hold you, baby.

Speaker 1 Congratulations on you. Thank you.
Possible win. Thank you so much.
But it's an honor just to be nominated.

Speaker 1 Who else is nominated? Ivan Decker, Nathan McIntosh, Deborah D. Giovanni, and Jeff Solomon.
It's a stack line. All guests.
All guests. Wow.

Speaker 1 It's a great, it's all banger. So it's going to be, it's fun just to be here.
But yeah, thank you so much for having me on. Yes, of course.

Speaker 1 And thank you, everybody out there, for listening once again, for joining up on Max Fun Drive. And we want you to take care of yourself and each other.

Speaker 1 And combat next week for another episode of Stop Podcasting Yourself.

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