Episode 870 - Kerri Donaldson

Hi, he's Dave Shomka.

And he's Graham Clark.

And together we host Stop Podcasting Yourself.

Woo!

Hello, everybody, and welcome to episode number 870 of Stop Podcasting Yourself.

My name is Graham Clark.

With me as always, is that he's not a fair weather friend.

He's a bad weather friend, Mr.

Dave Shunka.

Oh, it's so rainy here, isn't it?

Yeah, I guess it is.

Yeah, no, I'm a bad weather friend for sure.

Yeah,

you're the friend you want in bad weather.

Yeah, I guess that's a good thing.

Yeah.

Like when Stormy Skies, people are going to look towards Dave Shunka.

Stormy Skies is my.

You see it?

It's my adult entertainer name.

But that just means he's an adult entertainer.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, like

Billy Joel.

Yeah, exactly.

Or

Corinne Bailey Ray.

Yes, the two bigs.

Anyone who's had their CD sold at Starbucks is an adult entertainer.

Oh, boy, who's the one I'm thinking of?

Nora Jones.

Nora Jones, number one with a bullet.

I'm thinking of one more, but could it be Kobe Kaye?

Oh, it could be, absolutely.

Could it be...

Who did Sonny Came Home?

Oh,

not Katie Tunstall.

No, it's not Katie Tunstall.

It is.

You know?

I don't know.

I was going to say Meredith Brooks, but that's

a bitch.

She didn't match.

She had my anthem.

This voice you're hearing is our guest, Sean Colvin.

Sean Colvin.

Sunny Came Home with a Vengeance.

Is that Sean Colvin?

Yeah, I mean, Sunny Came Home.

I don't know.

Oh, she came home with a vengeance.

I can guarantee it.

It was Sunny?

Oh, it's Sonny Bono.

Oh, boy.

I know.

They spelled it differently than I thought.

I know.

For legal reasons.

Okay.

This is a returning guest to the podcast.

Very funny comedian.

Writer-at-large.

One half of Brun

Comedy with past guest Allie Entwistle.

It's Carrie Donaldson.

Hello.

Hey.

Hey.

Thanks for coming back.

Thanks.

Well, thanks for having me back.

Yeah.

Last time was a disaster, but we feel like this time we're really going to nail it.

And I apologize.

You guys got the fruit baskets.

Yeah.

I've changed.

Mostly figs, if I recall.

Heavy on the figs.

What is your absolute like bottom of the barrel of the fruit basket?

Wow.

I actually told you not to ask me this question, and I thought we weren't going to go there.

But

push comes to shove, and I have to eat it for some reason.

Yeah.

No,

I mean, bottom of the barrel, you don't have to eat, right?

Bottom of the barrel.

But I'm eating fruit out of a barrel.

And now this is the only fruit that remains, and I'm compelled to eat this.

This is the fruit barrel.

The fruit barrel.

Yes, we all know what a fruit barrel is.

We all have a bunch of farmers.

I'm sorry for your loss.

But I guess it's going to be...

Let's think here.

I love fruit, but I don't like it.

What are the basket fruits?

They're melons.

See, melon, I would have said.

You would have said melon.

Yeah.

At the bottom.

A waste of.

All three melons.

All three?

Is there three melons?

I mean, there's actually, I think at one time, we looked up all the melons.

Yeah, there's a lot of melons.

There's melons.

There's dozens of melons.

There's cassava.

Cassaba.

It's my daughter's name.

Oh, yeah.

How's she doing?

It's my adult name.

She's a great four.

She's

four.

Grade four.

You know,

the big ones are watermelon, cantaloupe, and honeydew.

Yes.

If you have a bottom of all of those three, I would say in this order from least enjoyable melon to most delightful.

Oh, so we're counting down to the top three.

It's like a, these are the top melons.

We're going there.

If we're going there, we're going there.

In at number three, the worst melon.

Here it is.

You voted.

It's honeydew.

Honeydew.

Honeyde do, yeah.

Honey, do you agree with that, honey?

You know, it's a honey don't for me.

That's why you're a writer.

I own it.

You know what I mean?

And this is good.

Certainly, I only have honeydew material, though, so it's crazy that I can't do it.

All right, so let's see what you can do with cantaloupe.

Go.

At number two, it's

chantaloupe.

Yeah.

Because I'd rather marry number one, which is watermelon.

Watermelon.

Absolutely.

The grapes, I feel like it gets grapes.

Grapes are in the

bottom of the barrel for me.

I love a grape.

I love a cold grape right out of the fridge, but in a basket.

Oh,

I've just re-I've just got back involved with grapes.

Grapes and I took some time.

And do you have a color of grape you prefer?

I'm just traditional old green.

Green.

Yeah, well, I mean, the cheapo green grapes.

The red, purpley ones are just as traditional as well.

I know, but you know, like,

who's got red grape money?

Sometimes you go to eat a red grape and

you remember that you're in an old-fashioned Italian restaurant and it's a plastic grape on the table.

It's a decorative rubbery grape.

But it's already in your mouth, so you're just going to chew it for days.

Yeah.

Oh, God.

I imagine.

Should we get to know us?

Yeah.

Get to know us.

Gary, the last time you were here, it was.

I'll tell you the exact date.

Dave knows it.

December 2nd, 2019.

Now, we all know December 2nd, whose birthday?

Jesus Christ.

Brittany Spears.

Brittany Spears' birthday.

Goes around every year.

Do we think this whole Free Britney movement was a mistake?

That we should keep her.

We never should have freed her.

Yeah.

Put her back.

Put her back.

We're actually good.

Sorry.

Just shoo her back in.

In you go.

Do you remember what

December 2019 looked like for you?

I sure can.

I, you know, it's hazy.

I think the words like naive optimism, maybe

was probably prevalent in my life.

I probably didn't have bangs.

Okay, that's interesting.

If you look at that, that's a time marker.

Yeah.

If you look at the episode description, does it mention

comedian Carrie Dawkins is here to discuss bangs.

No, I swear there's more in my life.

More has gone on in my life.

It won't just be about bangs.

I think we maybe had a long talk about how bangs for a woman,

they indicate a big life change.

It's like getting tribal tattoos for men.

That's how you know something big's going on.

That's why, you know, stuff's been going on with Mike Tyson for years.

The signs that were all there.

Now, the time of this episode out, Mike Tyson have fight?

Yeah, maybe.

This episode out the 19th of November.

I saw an old video of him where he was exercising his neck.

So his neck when he was a young man was the same size of his head.

So, it's just like one, two,

there's no contour.

And I don't understand why.

I mean, I guess if you're getting punched in the face.

Yeah, and I guess you don't want a little wiggly neck on the top of a

bobblehead.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's not gonna.

But, like, have you ever thought about exercising your neck?

No, my neck's too big.

Oh, that's true.

Opposite?

Yeah.

Right, it's uh bad for shirts.

Yeah.

Sure, yeah, I'll follow that.

Like button-up shirts.

I can't, you know, if I ever want to wear a necktie, I gotta, I gotta get a special shirt.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

What about turtleneck?

Turtleneck, uh, I'm swimming.

I've never

done turtleneck.

I feel like you're a turtleneck person, yes?

I definitely.

And it's turtleneck season.

Absolutely.

You always know that.

Yeah, I will rock a turtleneck every day.

Just

standard black, or do you have colors of the rainbow?

I stick to black.

I have one heavily patterned one,

which is for special occasions obviously but i love a classic black it just instantly gives you some kind of it's elegant it's elegant a black turtleneck is very poetic

European.

Yes.

Yeah.

Or Steve Jobs.

Yeah.

It's very

with a pair of like denims.

Yeah, you can easily take that from Steve Jobs tonight.

Take that, yeah.

From the keynote.

Yeah, you know, it's a range.

Yeah, do you

just just black turtleneck?

You put on a coat, you put on a scarf.

It's not a scarf.

Not a scarf.

Yeah, that's over, Gil.

That will elicit questions.

Well, that's very turtleneck and scarf, I think, is very grew.

Oh, yeah, that's right.

Which is very interesting because recently, this is something new that's happened to me.

This past year, I did randomly go viral.

Oh, on?

Yeah.

And the entire internet has deemed me a classic look-alike.

I don't know why I'm admitting this.

That's fine now, but

you will find it.

we should we should know too.

Yeah, and I'll give you context for why.

Oh, okay.

But they all think I look like Grew's wife.

Grew's wife.

Sure.

Okay.

As soon as you said lookalike and we talked about Grew, I was going through the Rolodex.

Well, you're not a minion.

Yeah, I was like, yeah.

And thank you for saying, oh, yeah, I see the Grew in you.

You're not.

That would have been

leaving.

Vector.

So did you put yourself out there as looking like this person or you were just in a video or something and somebody said...

How did this go viral?

Yeah, it was through one of the many improv groups I'm known to be a part of, Treat Show, Shout Out.

And we have a very young member of Treat Show who's been very active on the socials,

trying out some stuff.

And she filmed everybody's reaction to Devin McKenzie had dyed his hair.

Nothing so dramatic, but it went blonde.

And he didn't tell us.

So, and I was.

Feels like something you'd send a memo.

I know.

Not even a phone call.

Or like even a warning, like, hey, I'm thinking of going blonde.

Talk me out of it.

Talk me out of it.

Yeah.

Exactly.

So, you know, there's that to look into.

But

I showed up.

I was, we meet up a little bit early before the show.

I was a little bit late.

And so they all guessed how I would react.

Okay.

I don't know if I did big reactions or anything, but I think I did see this video.

Yeah.

Oh, there you go.

But truly, yeah, like they just, you know, subtle reactions.

And then I come through and I just, I'm like, ooh, you know, very normal.

okay yeah yeah but for some reason it took off like a like a rocket ship I think we were at 10 million what views or something stupid and people are saying is it yes and there was two two things that were dividing the comment section one of them was that I looked like Grew's wife okay and there was literally a number now because the amount of people who liked it was in the thousands okay which is never a great feeling when you can quantify that I like it on social media when people will make like the heart button.

They'll be like,

they'll make an arrow to that heart button and they'll say, looks like Grew's wife button.

Anyone who agrees with that.

Exactly.

There's a census for how many people in the world thought I look like this.

And it's compelling.

But and then the other one was, funnily enough, my BFF/slash brunch other half, Allie, decided to make a choice in this video.

She kind of did an over-the-top interview.

So, everyone was guessing what you were going to, how you were going to react.

What I would do when I went to the next one.

And why

good question?

Why are you the one that cared?

Yeah.

Are you a high maintenance?

They just knew you'd be there last?

I think they were, A, probably she'd be me because I was late and fair enough.

And for the listeners, she was also late to the okay.

Well, that's not pertinent.

We'll post our video for a reaction.

Yeah.

Their reaction to my reaction, too.

But But yeah, I have no idea why it was me.

I think it was because I was the last one there.

Now, do you have a twin?

I do.

Did we talk about that last time?

I don't know.

Does she look like Grew's wife?

Yeah, does she look like Grew's wife?

She looks like Grew.

Oh, shit.

Hey, yo.

That's one of those couples that you're like, are they just siblings?

Yeah, it's true.

Yeah.

Is

Grew's wife Kirsten Wigg?

I want to say it is.

Yeah.

Boy spy, I mean.

Boy spy, sure.

But I hold on to that.

I cling to that as well.

And I'm like, for some reason, they're thinking I channel that energy and therefore.

Yeah.

There's a woman who, a longtime guest of the podcast, named Amanda Brook Perrin, and she looked exactly like a character from the cartoon Recess.

Oh.

Because she had glasses and red hair that if she put them in

pigtails, everybody was like, exact, exact replica of this character.

Honestly, I think it is very much a redhead thing or like a ginger thing because I think it's just like it's so cartoonish sometimes that and a lot of cartoons have red hair so it's no Amanda Brook Perrin not as red as like

flaming red as your hair yeah

wow look at you choosing your words here like

no I'm wondering like is there

is there among redheads is there like a well okay she's technically a redhead but it's darkened over the years yeah oh yeah I thought well is there

you said a ginger is a ginger different than a regular redhead oh no now all the all the redheads are going to come for me if I'm speaking for them, but here I go.

I think there's so much nuance that

it's going to get heated.

I think ginger is different from

like an auburn and a redhead.

I think redhead is the catch-all term, but I think there's a lot of like

dyed red hair that's

and a lot of people who have dyed red hair who I would classify as a ginger, but not all redhead, dyed haired people.

There are people I know with who don't have dyed have natural like auburn hair and they talk about themselves having red hair and i don't and i am shocked when i hear it yeah i'm like oh you're you're a redheaded i didn't know that

i didn't know

uh my nephew uh as a little little tiny baby toddler reddest hair that ever could be i remember we were gonna meet up

with him, my wife and I and their family.

We were meeting up and there was a big crowd because it was Remembrance Day.

I was like, how are we ever going to find them?

Like we're just standing in the middle of the field miles away.

There he is.

Got him.

Yeah.

But he's already gone a lot darker.

Now it's like, it's almost like accents of red now.

It's so crazy.

It changes so quickly.

Like even as a baby, I had like blonde hair and then it went red.

And like, to be fair, like I've, you can like lighten or darken it, but it lightens over time.

It turns white.

That's the other thing.

It doesn't turn gray.

It turns white.

His hair turns white.

Isn't that cool?

That's gingerfax.

But I don't don't know if

you're live on ginger facts.

Ginger facts.

I don't know if my hair turns white or gray.

Right now it's doing a gray.

It's doing a gray, but is it just gray because it's white mixed with dark?

Oh, a little salt and pepper.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I think.

Like, I don't think I don't.

I mean, you never pluck one hair like, this one's gray.

Yeah.

Maybe you do.

Yeah.

I guess I'm not plucking my grays, obviously.

Otherwise, I'd be bald around.

Just patch it.

You good?

Dave, I noticed your temples are bald.

So?

As long as they come.

Jealous.

It's an old wives tale.

There's an age where I feel like, and I don't, it's different for every person, where going really dark with the dye

is so obvious.

Oh, yeah.

Like there,

like years ago, I did a thing for Just for Men beard dye.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

And they said, the people there, they're like, the number one problem with our product, nobody knows how to use it.

They always go too dark.

No matter what.

Always way too dark.

You know what you see, like somebody with black hair?

I do know.

Yeah.

There's a guy in the neighborhood who's got, he's like, he reminds me of,

boy, the band Shanana.

Wow.

Never a good sign.

They're like a throwback to the 50s kind of thing.

So he's got like sideburns and a pompadour.

I like that.

And like walks around with like a varsity jacket.

He's like a 50s teenager, but he's in his 60s probably.

Kind of like that.

Live for that.

And just the darkest.

Oh, fair.

But, like, you know,

I'm watching The Sopranos for the first time.

For the first time?

Yeah.

Oh.

And Polly Walnuts, he's got dark hair, but then he's got those sides.

And that kind of saves it, right?

It really does.

Saves it.

Well, you know, then he would look too old to have that.

Oh, because he does have the dark on top.

You think that's dyed?

Yeah, I think so.

I think it's all calculated.

Oh, okay.

But I love it.

I never thought of that.

I always thought of him as like just, you know, gray at the temples.

Yeah, I would have to.

Well, maybe.

Yeah.

I mean, I would ask ask him, but how far are you into the Pranos?

Um, what was the last thing that I saw?

Um, give me a season, the oh, second season, give me one season.

The mother has passed

mother's past, and they

did a terrible CG

for her last scene.

I'm tired now.

It was very anticlimactic.

I remember that.

Yeah.

She was my favorite, too.

Yeah, I think they could have done it somehow else.

Yeah, it was good.

She was a good.

She was great.

She was great.

It was the

Janice is hilarious.

I think people forget how terrible like a character she was.

Like in terms of like, who's the little kid from Game of Thrones that everyone hated?

Oh, little Peter Fringalong.

Peter Fringalong.

As like the most frustrating character ever to watch.

I think she's up there.

Yeah.

Oh, I mean, I like

sometimes a website or something will put out, like on Father's Day, worst dads, and you know, Darth Vader's on it.

What do you, who do you think?

Okay.

Worst dad?

Go.

On TV?

Yeah.

Fictional character.

Yeah.

Fictional.

Okay, good.

Oh, not real picture.

I'd go with Dave Shumko.

No, Dave.

That's what's what the kids are saying.

Oh, your kids specifically.

Where's dad?

Where's dad?

Where's dad?

Mufasa for abandoning his child.

Wow.

Hot take.

Hot take.

Yeah.

I think

all the Disney dads died, didn't they?

Yeah, yeah, the good ones.

The good ones.

The moms, too, actually.

I mean, for sure, you're Darth Vader.

He's up to no good.

Right?

Dad Vader was a bit of an absentee dad.

I was from Dad Vader?

Didn't I, though?

Yes, you did.

Well, you know who else?

Jack Torrance from the

Shining.

Oh, yeah.

Archifying Archifying Meter Dead.

That's true.

Yeah.

I watched that again

the other day.

Yeah, and

it looks so good.

The drink that he gets at the bar is like one of the best looking drinks in the bourbon on.

But it's like on this light

bar, like it's got a light on it.

Did you notice when you saw The Substance, the references?

Yes, I did.

Oh,

the carpet is very similar.

Have you seen The Substance or The Shining?

I have seen The Shining.

Oh, I haven't seen The Substance.

It's, oh, you got to see it.

Yeah.

I know.

I know.

I was like, oh, wait.

I just said last week, nobody should see it.

Oh, okay.

But I disagreed, so I think you should see it.

And the bathroom is very similar.

There's a white and red bathroom.

And also the

scene where he kisses the beautiful young woman and she turns into the decomposing old woman.

Yeah.

Scary.

That's very substancey.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then there's the,

you see a glimpse of like the bear costume guy.

Yeah.

There's apparently there was a whole storyline that they filmed for that and they cut it all out and they just left that one thing in as they're like, isn't this weird?

Oh.

And the old woman apparently in the book has like a backstory of like she's sleeping with bell boys and

and has like that's her why she's haunting the hotel.

Yeah.

As a sexy lady.

Did you read the book?

No.

No.

Did you?

No, I don't read.

Yeah, there we go.

Take that.

Yeah, I read it.

I work in print, but I I don't read.

I was like,

I like this movie a lot.

I watch it every year.

Maybe I should read it.

And then I, oh, 672 pages.

Nothing.

I'll rent.

That's a renter.

Yeah.

You said you're a writer.

I am.

And you're writing for past guest Stacey McLaughlin's magazine that she's the editor-in-chief?

Yes.

She's basically our print overlord.

Vancouver magazine?

Yes.

And everyone can get a free subscription.

Yes.

you can, and it'll go right to your door.

Have it right, it's coming to my door.

Okay, let's question that.

Got the gift guide in the motion, yeah, yeah.

Who did I know?

Who there were people that were like should see a lot of, yeah, there were a lot of familiar faces of like here's what I'm buying at Christmas.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't tell you a single one else.

Uh, Mark Greesen from uh, from CTV Weather.

Um,

now, you're uh,

what is your position?

Are you a reporter?

Are you copy editor?

What do you do?

Oh, interesting.

Columnist.

Columnist.

Columnist.

Oh, wow.

I'm technically my title is

assistant editor, but I'm just an editor.

Okay.

Which I guess.

Don't just say just

a lowly editor.

But that doesn't mean you edit.

It means you write.

Exactly.

But sometimes I can edit.

Sure.

But I'm not technically the person editing everything.

Right.

And by editing, are you like looking for typos or are you?

I'm.

Yeah, it's less content the subject or anything and more just like little

like you have to be so attentive to detail in print like you have to think about it in terms of like

such precision such like even like the different like we don't use Oxford commas

and I keep using them and suddenly I've got this like complex now about them and exclamation points why not why not the Oxford commas I don't know they're tedious they're pointless I like them because then by the end

the end kind of signifies the end of the list but what if the list is very short and there's it's kind of it gets kind of confusing

without the comma see the comma calms the confusion okay well that's not true okay well i mean that's actually a sound bite that i'm gonna use the comma calms

the um exclamation point overused i would say yeah i'm an overuser of that me too because it's an emotional i think it's a bit of a people pleasing i'll be honest there's a difference between sure and sure right yeah,

I yeah, do you do the thing where you're very in email you're very

exclamation-y.

Yeah, yeah, so these people know that I'm

fun.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I need to convey that

mad right now.

Yeah, like that's but if you were mad

Yeah, no, I mean you'd have to probably do a double to like show that

That's when you do caps.

That's the caps.

Yeah.

Well, there is like only extremes in email.

Apparently there are different ways that different generations text yeah and it's like

what did i read about it it but it was um

like

i am i feel like i'm the exception in my generation where i if if it's a one-word response um like sure i'll just put a period at the end of it right and people are like apparently that's like attack a violent attack from them yeah

i was told that by allie actually yeah really that Sure with a period.

She's like, and a period.

She thought I was mad at her.

Yeah.

Or I think it was K in a period.

But you do have to figure out a way to express

emotion through these things, you know?

Or, oh, the thing I heard was that boomers, these are the baby boomers.

The K boomer?

Colloquially known as boomers.

Is

they'll use the ellipses, dot, dot, dot,

because they don't want to say because they remember when phones didn't have unlimited texting.

so they would they would try to get as many thoughts into one text as possible oh oh my god i love that and so the dot dot dot indicates new thought yeah okay like wait for it it's coming more my mom does a voice to text so all of her texts are incredibly long my mom does that too i'm starting i'm thinking about i'm tired of typing with this uh these thumbs these fat thumbs of mine constantly getting the the letter wrong getting uh autocorrect that's wrong you're like i'll just send it to you Who's the guy from the nursery rhyme who puts his thumb in a pocket?

Oh, yeah.

What is his name?

It's not Johnny Suckathum.

Johnny Suckathum.

Is it Tom Thumb?

Tom might be Tom Thumb.

Yeah.

It sounds so right.

It can't be wrong.

Yeah.

But like Johnny Suckathum is like the one about a kid.

That's a thing?

Yeah, it's from like Grimm's.

Oh, the Grimm brothers.

Yeah, like it's from German.

Is that Grimm's or the German?

They're all German.

They're all German, right?

Yeah.

But it's about a kid that sucks his thumb, and so somebody comes and cuts them off with scissors.

Stop it.

That's a children's fairy tale.

That's a children's fairy tale from back in that tiger.

Wow.

Little Jack Horner.

Horner.

Well, he's previously sitting in a corner.

He was in a corner.

And what was he eating?

Curts and Whey.

Christmas pie.

Christmas pie in the corner.

He started in whey.

He stuck in a thumb.

That's the other one.

And what did he pull out?

A plum.

A plum.

A god.

And what did he say?

Check the sip.

A check the sip.

He said, what a good boy am I.

Oh,

who put their finger in a dyke?

I don't know.

Sassy Mike.

Another Brother's Grimm character.

I think it was a little Dutch boy.

Oh, that's right.

Yeah.

When you were a kid, nursery rhymes,

classic stories.

When your kids were really little, was there,

you know, Mother Goose

popping up?

Yeah.

I'm just wondering if it's still off.

Do you remember those when you were a kid yeah i

i'll be honest my both my parents worked shift and so the tv raised me that was you know so a lot of a lot of or i would get dropped off at the library which is so interesting because then i worked at a library and i was like oh yeah you can't do that can't leave your kids at a library but no yeah i was different yeah different times so you do a kind of extremes you were left in front of a television and you were left in front of a book exactly which which uh has ultimate control which

she doesn't read she's

i did say that out loud, so I'm going to own it.

Yeah, I kind of read more like I did, yeah.

You weren't reading Nursery Russia.

I was no, I was reading the New York Times.

Okay.

I was ahead of my game.

Yeah.

No.

I

loved mysteries more.

I like to try to solve them.

As a child?

Yeah.

Right.

Or do you still?

Less now, because life's the mystery.

I'd like to.

Yeah.

So as a child, is it Nancy Drew?

Drew, yeah.

Nancy Drew.

Drew, yeah.

And sometimes the Hardy boys.

Boys.

Yeah, the Hardy Boys.

They would get into all sorts of

shit.

Rapid galleys.

I think I read half of a chapter of one of the Hardy Boys, and I was like, not for me.

Thank you.

No, thank you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Was Harriet the Spy a series or was it just one book?

Oh, I don't know.

I didn't read that one.

I think I only noticed the movie, so there you go.

Oh, and that would have been on TV, bro.

The great Michelle Trachtenberg and Rosie O'Donnell film.

Oh, wow.

Those two names I haven't heard in a while.

I'll say that.

What, as a youth, your favorite TV show?

Oh, my God.

Probably The Simpsons.

That's classic.

I know.

It honestly was, though, like, truly.

That's one of the bad dads.

Oh, wow.

Oh.

Choking his kid.

Do they think they still do that on the show episode?

Well, I've already watched it.

So let me tell you, they do.

Yeah, my sister still watches it.

Really?

I can't.

I can't.

Oh, and me too.

Sorry, Lisa.

No, she does watch it.

She says it's okay.

But like,

truly.

I'm like, why are you watching it then?

But she watches everything.

She's watched the entire internet.

So she just has to watch whatever's new.

I

don't walk my dogs at night very much.

I mostly do the daytime walks.

And then in the winter, I'll try to get that dog walk in before the sun sets at four o'clock.

Otherwise, it's diapers for you, doggos.

Exactly.

But I was walking the dogs the other day.

And I'm sure people notice this in like places with a bunch of apartments and you can see into other people's apartments.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Just seeing into people's houses.

First of all, put your blinds, close your blinds, everyone.

Kind of.

But I was shocked how many people watch YouTube on their TVs.

Oh, like there were just people watching

just like

talk shows.

Talk shows, too.

That's odd.

I mean, to be fair, I have yet to pay for any streaming service because I am just like that.

Sure.

So I have to really hunt things down.

Do you feel like you're missing out?

Like, oh, this is the new series on such and such?

A little bit because I have to remind myself of that it exists because it's not on any, you know, and then people talk about it.

And then I have to like find it.

And sometimes, I don't know, it's stressful.

I should just get a streaming service.

I hear it.

But then, you know, like which one?

Right?

I only want one from each of them.

You want one show from me to the streams?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That's got to be some sort of

dark web thing.

You got to make something out out there.

So you nerds, if you figure it out, leave it in the comments.

Yeah, yeah, in the comments.

I don't know.

I'll get to Vancouver Magazine.

I did it to Vancouver Magazine.

That's badmag.com.

Yeah, do you think with writing for the magazine, do you think you could get press credentials to get in places?

Let me tell you.

Yes.

I know I can.

I've yet to really try.

You should, though, Ban Maggie.

I should.

I know.

Honestly, I'm working up the courage because I'm kind of the newer.

I'm the baby.

But like,

certainly, you know, anything in town.

Oh, you're from Vancouver magazine.

Anything outside of Vancouver is a harder justice.

But also, like, I wonder, like, Taylor Swift is playing the final shows of the Eras tour

in December here.

And I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be like, oh, well, I don't really need the press.

I don't need the press from Vancouver magazine.

I'm going to reach out to her people, though.

I think she

hasn't heard from me yet and my interview.

Yeah, exactly.

What are you going to bring to the table?

I'm going to ask her the questions.

Yeah.

You know, who's this guy?

Who's the and period?

Who's this guy?

I know people who used to like do take pictures of

concerts and they would get a press pass for the first three songs and then they had to leave.

Oh, really?

And they were like, get out.

You saw enough for a reviewer.

Or maybe it's just like you to get pictures in the like

at the side of the stage.

For a short time when I I worked at City TV, I had press credentials for the Olympics.

Ooh.

And then were revoked when I was let go from CD TV.

Which I feel like.

It was the middle of the Olympics.

It was just before.

It was like a week before the Olympics.

And I was like, seems to me the classy thing would have been to let me keep the credentials and just go enjoy the Olympics.

You were a security risk.

Yeah, it's true.

Couldn't get a job as a security guard.

That's too risky.

Do you remember the Olympics?

Were you here?

I wasn't here.

Where were you?

I was,

when were they?

2010.

2010.

Yeah, I was in Calgary still.

That's born and raised in Calgary.

Yeah.

Five years ago, we probably asked you this question, and we're not going to ask it now.

We're going to guess.

Yeah.

What high school you went to?

Hey.

Oh, no.

I think I'm feeling remembrances.

Oh, okay.

Okay.

Do you have a guess?

I'm going to say that you were an E.P.

Scarlett kind of person.

Ooh, honestly, I take that as a compliment.

You should.

No, I'm guessing it was Saint Somethings.

It was a Catholic.

You are on the right track, my friend.

Saint Boy, let's go with Teresa's.

Oh, Saint Teresa.

I don't know.

Saint Mary.

Ooh, another good guess.

Very close.

Saint Boniface.

No.

No way.

Now you're awake.

Now I'm going to go.

Now you're in left field.

There's no saving you.

Saint.

One of the other saints.

It's the one saint who loved animals.

Oh, okay.

Saint Steve Irwin.

Saint Steve Irwin.

Hi.

Yeah.

Steve.

Francis of Assisi.

Stingrays.

That was our team.

Yikes.

Did you say Francis?

Yeah.

You nailed it.

Saint Francis.

St.

Francis.

And was that,

I was going to say a costume school, but yeah, a uniform school.

We wore Halloween costumes on the daily.

Yeah, we have fun there.

We must have asked you this last time because how would I remember that it was a yeah, right?

Oh, see, I don't remember.

We ask every Calgary that so smart.

Now, you both you are so smart.

We are so smart, and I know, I do believe we asked you about you.

Uh, identical twin, uh, fraternal.

I don't know if you asked that, but yeah, fraternal.

We do look kind of alike, but we look similar, yeah, you know, as the you know, nature versus nurture.

We had other guests,

Deborah D.

Giovanni has a twin, no, Eric Reed has a twin, no,

identical, no, not identical, sorry, those are both fraternal.

No, I don't know, Eric Reid has a twin, yeah, Yeah.

A fraternal twin?

Yeah.

Yeah.

A sister.

This hasn't come up?

No.

Boy, oh, boy.

It's a sister, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

I have them on my podcast.

My fraternal twin podcast.

I feel like we asked someone who had a twin if they switched classes.

Oh, I think this was me because we did that and it was to boring results.

Because you have to just know I noticed.

Yeah.

And then you're just behind in the class.

Exactly.

I was just like, you have a test next.

Look hard.

You didn't take notes.

I didn't take notes at all.

Maybe I should have.

Yeah, the now you, your sister lives here as well.

Yes.

Did you guys move as a unit?

No.

So there was a brief period of time,

almost five years, actually, which is like a lifetime in twin years.

Okay.

I literally, you know, woo-mates, lived with her too, and stuff like that.

Like, we'd never been apart.

And then I moved to Vancouver.

And yeah, it was tough, too.

I was really lucky.

And so am I.

And you were texting her every day,

squeak, a little goggle.

Yes, you read

my dads.

Yeah, dah, dah, dah, she's a dad.

Zab, zab, wibble, wobble.

Do you like, is there some sort of language around twins having like the same emotions or same thoughts or feelings?

Is there something?

It's not to that degree of like, I can read her thoughts, a la the shining,

but I can tell.

You can tell.

I can tell.

Yeah.

I don't know, but it's, you know, it's more.

But does she have to to be in the room with you for you to tell?

Or can you tell me?

She needs to tell me physically.

And then it takes me a while because I, you know, she doesn't really need it.

No.

If she's in the room, for sure, because I can gauge it.

But even when she's not, I don't know.

Really?

It's like an intuition, maybe?

Two intuition.

Oh, is that a term?

No.

Well, if it, if it is.

Does she have the same with you?

I think so.

Yeah.

I think she said that.

Now we talked about texting.

Is there like a, is texting easier with her?

Not the texting's hard.

I so hard.

But like, is there a different

quality to it?

I don't know what this is.

They're better.

They slap hard than I text with my mom.

No, actually, hers are really great because she does the voicemail thing too or the voice thing.

And it always picks up like the TV nearby.

Oh, yeah.

Or sometimes my dad's voice is in there a little bit.

Yeah.

What is this?

No, but she like types voice to type.

Is that what your mom says?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it'll suddenly in the middle of it

have this random sentence and I'm just like, how do I decode this?

It's all one sentence.

And I can't figure it out.

Yeah, I don't have any.

Now, does your

twin same hairstyle?

Base.

Based.

Basically, right?

I think I've met her before.

Yeah, we did have to stay in our lanes with the bangs, but now

your bangs.

Oh, you both have bangs.

Is that okay?

It's

we've made it okay.

Yeah.

Because I really wanted them.

Yeah.

But, you know, and you can't, who, you can't own a hairstyle.

Like, who's who gets bangs, right?

Well, I mean, Rachel owns

Rachel.

Oh, sure, sure, sure.

Yeah.

Okay.

So I.

I aforementioned Polly Walnuts and his hairstyle.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I'll figure out how to legally own these bangs.

But until I do,

can we share them?

Can you, hmm, can you copyright a hairstyle?

That would be so iconic.

Yeah.

What hairstyle could you have?

Like Betty Page.

That's a

that is a like that's that's something that you would tell a hairdresser, give me the Betty Page.

And they still know it.

All these years later.

What other hairstyle could hold up like that?

Uma Thurman's in pulp fiction, I feel like.

Isn't that the Betty Page?

That's kind of a Betty Page.

That's a bit of a Betty Page.

Yeah, that's a notorious Betty Page.

You know,

Page Boy.

Yeah, Page Boy haircut, a pair of faucets.

Oh, yeah.

Wings.

Literally, yeah, like a faucet of haircut.

Yeah.

It's like a faucet of hair.

I don't know if anyone's ever said that.

That's actually pretty prolific.

You're showing us that you are a writer.

Prolific means.

I think if you

think about it.

If you came up with a few more like that, you would be pretty prolific.

Wow.

But you came up with Twin Tuition.

Exactly.

So that's not nothing.

Faucet of hair.

Faucet of hair.

Okay, the podcast's not over yet.

No, that's right.

And this feels writerly.

Yeah, it is.

Well, I'm also working on my screenplay.

That's what I probably like.

Tell me you are.

Yeah.

Oh, who are you?

Are you really?

I did write a screen.

Oh,

can I ask what it's about?

Actually, it's not a screenplay so much as it is a television pilot.

A teleplay.

A teleplay.

A screenplay for the mini screen.

I'm looking up the top 50 hairstyles of all time.

Of course, you are.

Most iconic.

The top 50 most iconic hairstyles of all time.

What's the point ones?

I don't know if they're.

Where's Betty on that list?

Honestly, the first one on the list is freaking Rapunzel.

Oh, God.

Yawn.

Just having long hair?

That's not a style.

That's time.

Here's some of them.

That's letting yourself go.

Medusa.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Oh, glad darn.

I saw a picture of it, and then suddenly I'm turned into stone.

The Rachel.

The Rachel.

Damn Shirley Temple.

Oh, yeah.

Earlies.

She, Dave.

I didn't know that.

The Beatles.

Oh, yeah.

The Beatles.

Yeah, just the Beatles.

Yeah, collectively.

Bowl cut, classic.

Princess Leia.

Oh, yeah.

The buns.

Dorothy Hamill.

You have long hair.

Have you ever seen a woman with really long hair?

Like, to the point where it's like

you're almost sitting on it.

Past waist.

Crystal Gale.

Who's that?

Crystal Gale?

Yeah.

She was the singer.

She was.

Isn't she a sister of another singer as well?

And they just had hair down

from here to Tim Buck too.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

I saw a country singer.

Like an online video of somebody with like almost down to the calf.

Yeah.

Oh, Loretta Lanigan.

Loretta Lane sister.

Oh, I didn't actually know that.

Interesting.

Learning a lot of people.

Would you ever go past the waistline?

Would it?

Would it?

Honestly, it's too long right now, but I am in a phase of my life where I'm cutting my own hair and other people's hair.

Oh, I know.

I've gotten really into it.

I watch a lot of videos.

I cut Allie's hair.

I've cut my sister's hair.

I've cut my hair.

That's trust.

Do you offer to cut more people's hair?

And they're like, no.

Yeah, I throw it out there.

Throw Devin's hair now that it's blonde.

I mean, I see, I can't, I don't know if I can cut dude hair because I use, I've moved on to a a razor, lookout.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Those are special kind of cuts.

Oh, boy.

And I basically do the same haircut, though.

So that's the thing.

You get your haircut by me, cuts by Carrie.

That's pretty good.

You're going to leave with the exact same haircut.

And it's going to be more or less kind of what my hair looks like because it's what I like.

That's what you know.

And I'm going to, oop, I'm going to do it to your hair.

But I do a dry cut and I kind of work with your face.

Like I try to give it

like a sculpting.

I always would try to work against my face.

Marvel.

Yeah.

Putting hair down under his arm.

Yeah, when my face zigs, my hair zags.

Oh, I love that.

Do you, you say you do a dry cut.

Do you

make a good conversation during this haircut?

No, just bone, dry, quiet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No matter what.

Some people prefer.

Actually, I will say that was a joke, but I get them to bring me a bottle of wine.

So we'll drink the wine, you know, we'll get into it.

The care cut gets a little sloppy at the end.

Yeah, that's why I saved the back.

Yeah.

What happens back there is therapy for me.

But yeah, and when I, if I go and get it done professionally, which I'm going to do because I can't reach it now.

So I have to, you have to, I have to get someone to clean it up.

Okay.

And tell me what's happening back there.

But I prefer just to zone out, honestly.

Yeah.

It's so humbling to sit in front of a mirror with somebody and just like, you're just staring at yourself.

And I don't want to watch me watching myself have a conversation.

It's too meta.

It is.

That makes sense.

It's too meta.

It breaks me.

That's why we won't put the show on YouTube because we don't want to see our face.

I don't want to see our face having a conversation.

Yeah.

The thing, the number one thing.

We record the video for all these shows.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And you just store it away.

Yeah, it's plugged around the room.

You can't really see it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's well hidden.

Being in hotel rooms, I feel like that's where you're getting a lot of mirror angles that you wouldn't usually get.

Right?

You're like, I wouldn't.

Like a mirror just coming, like

coming out of the bathroom, there's just a a mirror there.

I don't think in your house you would ever have a mirror.

I don't need to be greeted by myself after leaving a room with a mirror.

Like, there I am again.

Now I'm living room Carrie.

But

do you do the thing?

Do you like turn them around to show them the do or do you just bring over the mirror?

Or how do you do?

Are they in an office chair that you can spin?

I wish.

Like these very chairs we're in right now.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, sure.

That'd be fun.

And then also the turning.

Right?

The reveal.

Yeah.

I don't really have the setup for it.

And it's probably been a few hours since I've been cutting their hair, so they're just like

these are marathon sessions.

Oh, yeah.

It's a hangout sesh.

Is it?

Yeah.

Are you doing them in a bathroom or on a porch or

wherever I can do them?

No, in the kitchen.

Oh, yeah.

Of course.

So it's a bit of a

food health

code violation.

So don't tell anyone.

I won't, I promise.

Thank you.

I wonder if the city would

strip your fresh crews.

I would like to see them try.

Not before the Olympics 2026.

Yeah, the health inspectors don't typically come to

house kitchens.

Not typically, but when they do.

There's a lot of hair in these potatoes.

Thanks for inviting me in all of us.

I appreciate it.

Years and years ago, the guy that I got my haircut at had a chair in his apartment, had like a full barber chair.

And he did the razor.

Oh, he he did.

I think for smaller cuts, he would do scissors, but he's just lopping it off.

Yeah.

Razor.

And creating a body, however, you do that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You carve in and just like, but you have to get a good person with a razor.

Otherwise, he can really

fuck up the hair.

Yeah.

So.

Well, yeah, you got to get a good person no matter what.

You should, yeah.

You should get a good person.

I was thinking just now, uh, while you guys were talking, I was thinking about health inspectors.

You were somewhere else.

Health inspectors, and

they go to restaurants and and they're like, oh, there's, you know,

mice over here.

Check out these nuts.

These guys are not wearing a hair net.

His nuts are out.

Yeah.

These nuts shouldn't be out.

These nuts are out.

His milk is sitting on a radiator.

Yeah, yeah.

Too gross.

And

so they're like,

How do they go to restaurants after that?

They must hate.

I don't think they do.

Because like every

restaurant in town,

you can search online and see all the health violations.

Every restaurant has health violations.

If you're eating at a restaurant, you're eating at a place that a rat has also been.

Yes.

Yeah.

Or at the very least, mice.

There you go.

Put that on the sign.

Yeah.

Mice and more.

Yeah.

Mice and more.

Mice, rats, and beyond.

99 billion rats served.

Served.

But there's like, I've had occasion to be somewhere when a restaurant is closed up and have taken out the garbage and stuff.

And then as soon as that door is closed,

the rest just fly out of nowhere.

Yeah, they really do.

I know, whenever I walk by, I think it's finches, shout out, I just see their dancing.

Like, it's a whole, like, I'll just stop and watch.

Yeah, oh, you know, it's an ecosystem.

It's a shout-out.

Lovely restaurant.

I'm sure their codes are all up to date.

But there's no mice are out there.

You can't keep them out of the alleys.

You can't.

Is it in New York or LA where they put the letters in the window?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Definitely L.A.

Yeah.

I think New York, too.

Yeah, it seems like a good system, and I don't know why we don't do that.

Yeah, we don't really have anything other than the Michelin stuff, but that's

the other end of the spectrum.

That's the other stuff.

That's my kind of stuff.

You can be both.

That's true.

Yeah, especially if they're wearing those tall hats.

You don't know what's under there.

Maybe a little rough.

It's a radatoy situation if it's Michelin.

Yeah, I've, there's a couple in town, right?

Oh, yeah.

There's, and they've expanded it to like

the, like, oh, they're not getting a star, but they're on our list of like.

Yeah, there's like, there's such a, because even working with the magazine now, I've learned a lot about this world because I didn't really know anything about it.

Tell us, tell us about this world.

It's all rigged.

It has nothing to do with the tire guy.

But it's basically, yeah, like you can have a star stripped from you, which I was like, oh my God, that would be like, it shouldn't go the other way, I don't think.

Yeah, you should have it for life.

Yeah, or something.

I don't know.

And then there's like recommended.

So

they're not quite there yet, and

still good, yeah, good.

I don't know why they're not, they don't tell us why, like, you don't know why they're picked or yeah, and you know that it is the tire guy, it is the tire guy, it is, but they aren't the tire guy, and I

hear it on the inside.

I feel like, how did that's the story I want to figure out?

I've been meaning to why, how did he get involved?

Why, why?

I don't think it's the guy, like, I don't think it's the big puffy guy, no, yeah, it's not uh, but the it's because it was like a guide for travel around.

Oh, oh.

Just saying, like, this restaurant's five stars for however many stars you get from it.

They can give one, I think.

Yeah.

And then they got another one later.

But yeah, you could be stripped of it if they found out you were using drugs or something like that.

Certainly.

I wonder how many meals I've eaten by somebody who's just crazy on drugs.

I'm guessing most.

Probably a lot, right?

Probably a lot.

More than not, I would think.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

Kitchenware.

Have you read the Bourdain books?

I've read Bourdain, one of his books.

I've watched a couple episodes of The Bear.

Sure.

Kitchen Nightmares.

He saw quite a few episodes of that.

Oh, sure.

Ratatouille, we saw.

Favorite cooking show?

Honestly, probably The Bear.

The Bear.

Yeah.

That's a cookie show?

I get some tips.

Yeah.

Just yabble.

Yeah, just

cast.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Have some tattoos.

That's not going to hurt.

Yeah.

Introduce a girlfriend in season two for no reason.

For no reason.

No payoff.

Call it a sitcom.

Yeah, I can get it some comedy Emmys.

Favorite cookie show, Dave?

Oh, for me?

Boy, it's got to be

Sesame Street because that damn cookie monster is always chumming him down.

Oh, can't cook them fast enough.

Yeah.

Most of the cookies just end up on the floor with that guy.

Most, yeah.

But some he, I think he does swallow a few.

Yeah, the ones he does, he really enjoys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Those stay, stay with him.

He's a big

favorite cookie show.

Quick.

Barefoot Contessa.

wow

um yeah what was the one uh uh the woman that she cooks for her her husband is that barefoot that might be

oh yeah aina gardner

yeah who do you think is the the worst kitchen guy i think everybody's like gonna say gordon ramsey oh yeah but he's so nice to those children that's true he does give the children a break uh-huh yeah thank god that would be such a different show i think it's gonna be somebody that you wouldn't suspect jamie oliver that's my guess.

Oh, you think?

Yeah, honestly, I guess.

Like, he's too nice?

Yeah.

A little bit.

Something behind the scenes there.

He's probably doing something.

I've heard a story about him.

It was on my algorithm.

Do you remember?

I think it was, boy, I think Liam Gallagher from Oasis.

He's been showing up in my algorithm a lot.

My Galgorith.

Oh, hey, hey, hey.

Put that in the old Ryder guidebook.

Stay out of my lane, sir.

I need this.

I think

Jamie Oliver bought a house that was across the street from a pub that Liam Gallagher used to go to all the time.

And they'd be very loud leaving the pub, and Jamie Oliver would complain, and they wouldn't stop.

No, they wouldn't stop scored.

They don't care.

Yeah, Liam Gallagher doesn't give a shit.

He doesn't even.

Doesn't even.

Are you stoked that they're back together?

Thank you.

I am the biggest Gallagher.

No.

Actually, I did like them because I really liked them, obviously, in their heyday, but I liked the Beatles when I was young.

So it felt, obviously, like the same energy.

But I don't know.

Why are they fighting all the time?

They're the opposite of you and your sister.

Quite literally.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I wonder how the stage, what's going to be the arrangement?

Is it going to be?

I'm left, you're right.

Right.

Yeah.

There's not going to be any back-to-backs.

No, you think?

Oh, well, like back-to-backs.

They don't even look at each other.

Oh, like where they share a microphone.

Where they share a microphone.

Back-to-back.

I wish.

Because I'm the young one.

And I'm your older brother.

And we are together.

And we sing this song.

They're singing it.

They're singing the song.

The brother song.

Yeah, their new albums.

Just,

it's on.

It doesn't rhyme, not even once.

Amazing.

Hand clap break where they're doing little patty cakes.

What?

Are we being graced with new music from Oasis, or is this just that we're getting together and popping?

I think they're getting together for the

people want it.

People want to see them live.

They want to see them, their boring stage show.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like with no new stuff, what are they giving you other than the possibility of a meltdown?

Even the

which is wild.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Gets press credentials from that.

They're not coming here for sure.

Yeah, why is there a tour called the No Refunds Tour?

Okay, I was about to be like, that's a great name.

Even if we break up on our first show, no refunds.

Wow.

Yeah.

I liked them when I was

a teen.

A teen, yeah.

But then I tend to like them.

That's because like my cousins were in Northern Ireland.

So that like was that everybody loved Oasis in the UK.

They loved the cis.

They called them the cis.

The cis.

The OA.

Sometimes.

Oh, I've never heard of it.

And one more?

The basses.

Yeah.

Less popular.

Is there.

I really like them, too.

Yeah.

I'm looking at us admitting this, eh?

It's just nice.

I really like them.

Nice to admit.

The first three albums, and then I don't think I heard another note out of them.

Yeah, I think they just remind me very much of like drinking in a pub.

It's just like I, as a young guitar player, I really liked how some of their songs felt under my fingers.

They were very

not complicated at all.

All the guitar solos have the same riff.

Nice.

Oasis Secrets Exposed.

Oh,

they're going to be pissed.

Dave, what's going on with you, my friend?

Your wife's name's Sally, right?

That's correct.

Do you ever say, so Sally can wait to her?

Yeah, yeah.

And Mustang Sally?

There's any number of Sally songs.

Yeah, you tell her not to look back in anger.

Yeah.

Do you know what?

What happens when I do that?

Oh, boy.

Am I

in the end to some anger?

I'll tell you that.

The one thing.

Yeah.

Sorry, Sally.

I had to do it, too.

What's going on with me?

Well, I talked about dog walking.

Yes.

I've been walking my, I've had to walk the dog in the dark the last few weeks.

Dogs.

Do you carry a flashlight?

I carry a flashlight.

You carry a flashlight.

Just for emergencies.

So you're the guy on the community boards that's okay.

Yeah.

Now that's coming together.

For the dogs.

Yeah.

They like to chew on it.

I don't use it.

It's probably pretty similar to the texture of a dog toy.

Sure.

I mean, I don't know.

And it squeaks.

The good ones.

What's going on in there?

I can hear it squeaking.

Yeah.

And so I was,

do you remember

let's say four years ago, there was this pandemic.

And every day at seven o'clock, people would go outside and

bang pots and pans.

Pots and pans, that's right.

And then I guess we collectively all decided, well, what the fuck good is this?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not everyone was like, Pitter pattered for a while still, which is Sattered.

No, not once.

I was in

an apartment with no

I was in a relationship with a different kind of cooking.

Well, walk.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

You know how to bang a walk.

Yeah.

She didn't want me banging pots and bangs.

But we.

So there was, we did it because we have little kids and they're all they want to do.

Straight to bed.

But it was every night at 7 o'clock.

And then at the time,

I remember there was a person

in the neighborhood who would play their bagpipes as everyone was doing this.

And it was every night at 7 o'clock.

You could hear bagpipes for blocks.

Yeah.

And so lately, I've been walking the dog after dinner at 7 o'clock.

Guess who's still going?

Oh, I love this.

What?

Bagpipe guy is still going or person, bagpipe person is still going at seven o'clock every night.

Wow.

Where?

What area?

Yeah, where should I be?

Yeah, just in the hood.

I follow the sound of a weeze.

Yeah, I don't think that I'm acquainted with this bagpiper.

You didn't even know at the time?

No.

We had a guy in our block that played the Marimba.

So

that was our neighborhood.

Wow.

Yeah.

Neighborhood vibes.

What does Marimba sound like?

It's very like Plinky Plink.

It's very nice.

Is it like...

I can't even picture it.

Is it Like kind of the opening, like kind of like a steel drum-esque.

It's kind of like...

I feel like there's

Apple notifications that are Marimba.

Yes.

And it was so nice.

He had it in his backyard and he would play it like all during the summer.

Oh, yeah.

And we would play Under the Sea.

Just the opening rough.

All Marimba songs start with that.

Okay, what about a Maroon 5 cover band?

A Maroomba.

Maroomba.

And one of the members is a Roomba.

Absolutely.

All of the members.

They're all.

And they're cleaning and they're both.

And they're doing moves like Jagger.

Oh, certainly.

I would.

Let's make that happen.

NASA moves.

Do you think he's outside?

Is he inside?

He's outside.

He's outside.

Okay, maybe.

I was like,

because I had never actually...

been close to it.

I'd always heard it from afar.

And then I know the house now, and I'm not surprised.

Wow.

The bagpipers.

What is it?

The house is just.

I don't want to

be the one with a Scottish flag up front.

Say Mull of Kintyre.

Yeah.

Is that something?

Paul McCartney song.

Yeah.

What is a Mull of Kintyre?

Seems like something Scottish.

But isn't it?

It's sort of like a, I think it's like a big hill somewhere in Scotland.

Paul McCartney, it was

a Wings song, Mull of Kintyre.

Yes, it was.

And it was, he only plays it in Canada, or he doesn't play it in the States, but when he comes on tour, he'll get the local pipe band to come play it.

I betcha.

Do you think this guy was in there?

He might be in there.

You gotta think.

Because it wasn't released as a single in the States.

It was in Canada.

I feel like I only hear Bagpipes.

Remembrance Day.

Some sort of parade.

Sure.

Robbie Burns Day.

Yeah.

And then,

you know, the dropkick Murphys, I feel like

worse, yeah.

Mull of Kentire.

Mull of Kentire.

And there was a comedian named Johnny Bagpipes, and his big closer was playing AC DC on the...

On bagpipes?

Yeah.

You better be.

Yeah, legally.

He was born bagpipes, Mr.

Bagpipes.

And most of the act was...

He always had the bagpipes the whole time, and he would do little bits of songs, but then at the end, it was full like...

So he sang?

Nope.

What was it, Thunderstruck?

It was Thunderstruck.

That's the way you got it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was listening to that on the radio the other day.

So good.

So good.

Like the fact that he came up with a riff, and then the lead singer was like, and I'll go.

It's like, wow, how did these two things come together?

They don't,

you know,

one doesn't evoke the other, but they work so well.

Aaron Reed, past guest, has one of the funniest jokes about them picking the

second singer of ACDC.

Oh, yeah.

I wouldn't do justice to him.

Oh, I don't know if I've heard that one.

Where it's just like this goblin that crawls out of from under a bridge and he's like, I want you join.

Definitely have heard that.

Yeah, it's a whole big bitch.

It's a whole shift.

Yeah, oh, I've definitely heard that one.

Oh, so good.

But I was just thinking, so this guy's still going.

I was thinking how funny it would be if people just kept doing banging pots and pans at seven o'clock every night for five years.

Like, because I guess what was to tell the healthcare workers we appreciate them.

Yeah.

Because it wasn't that when they were switching or something.

Why was it seven too?

I don't know.

But it was supposed to be, yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, it might have been a shift.

I don't know.

But could you imagine leaving work and just people just banging at you?

You're just like, all right.

I mean, that's what I've worked my whole life for.

To be banged at?

Yeah.

To be banged at as soon as I leave the house.

Hasn't happened yet.

But hey, saying it out loud, that's manifest.

Yeah, that's number one step.

That's halfway there.

Number one's the only step.

You're me.

Just manifest.

That's the rest dealing.

Yeah.

She's coming.

Yeah.

Bagpipe guy is still going through.

I love it.

It's like when you hear stories about people who are like on isolated islands during World War II and they didn't know the war was over.

So they're still hiding away from whomever, whatever side they were hiding away from.

Yeah.

That's the dream.

To just keep, to just be fighting a war for

the rest of your life on a remote island.

Never getting any wind of if you're winning, losing, what the status is.

No one's dropping, you know,

provisions.

Yeah, you're like, no one's

there.

What do we know?

Do either of you like watching war movies?

War movies.

No.

Warm movies.

War memories.

Warm memories.

Warm.

Cool for me.

No, I don't generally.

No, me neither.

I don't.

I don't like I get their artistic merit, but I don't understand their entertainment.

Yeah.

What did I like?

I liked 1917.

Oh, yeah.

Remember that?

Oh, yeah.

Not the war itself, but

you don't remember that.

I was a baby.

I was just a little baby.

Now I have a really old woman.

Carrie's really young.

She was just a baby in 1917.

Her hair is white.

That's how we know she was.

So white.

Yeah.

Ghastly.

I think I like a handful of war movies.

I think I do too, but I don't think, like, it's not...

It feels like there's new war movies that come out every year.

And very few of them do I gravitate to.

I like War Horse.

War Horse.

I never saw war horse.

I feel like it was an old metal jacket.

Oh, yeah.

Scary.

I haven't seen it.

There's one.

What's the one with.

I like looking glorious bastards.

Oh, you and Glorious Bastards were good.

There's.

Oh, boy, oh, boy.

Am I going to not figure this out?

But it's a story of a woman who is,

because of a rumor, her lover is sent to war.

Because of a rumor, her lover is sent to war.

Is it atonement?

Yes.

Atonement.

I forgot that that's the one.

Why was he sent to war because of a rumor?

The rumor was you've been enlisted.

Yeah,

millions of guys are going to war.

People are fighting on the battlefields.

I think I like,

boy, I like The Great Escape and I like Bridge on the River Kwai, Over the River Kwai, on the River Kwai.

I remember watching that as a young teen while babysitting.

Sure.

Because that was the VHS that they had.

Oh, yeah.

And it was two, two VHS.

Yeah, they were all really long movies.

And then there,

I feel like that and

like if a war movie came on TV when I was a kid, I'd be like, get it out of here.

That or a Western.

Yeah.

I'll watch a Western.

I'll watch a Western over a war movie if given the.

I would be the same way because I grew up, my grandfather loved Westerns.

Was he a John Wayne?

Yeah.

John Wayne.

What about Clint Eastwood?

Do you like probably more?

Well,

no, John Wayne, but Clint Eastwood, too.

I watched all the.

Yeah, my favorite movie, Cowboy, Woody from Toy Story.

Oh, I mean, that's cannon.

That's Cowboy.

Was there a favorite of the Westerns that you watch with your

Toy Story movies?

Just kidding.

Gotcha.

I don't know.

It's probably...

His dad from that movie.

Absent.

Oh.

He's one of the bad dads on the list.

Oh, is he?

Can't even picture him.

That's how absent he was.

Is he just not there?

He's just not there.

Oh, okay.

But he's never alluded to?

I don't think so.

He walked out on Woody and the gang.

And his son.

Never to return.

What about

in Family Matters?

Reginald Val Johnson

is the dad, but he only pays attention to the neighbor boy.

He's the only Urkel.

Only Urkel.

Favorite Western that you had to watch?

I forget what it's called, but it's a Clint Eastwood one.

Shoot.

I'd have to go there.

I love Josie Wales.

Oh,

God.

Is that your favorite one?

I thought of that one.

My favorite was Tombstone with the Russell.

Okay, wait.

Forgiven or

Unforgiven.

Unforgiven.

Oh, I watched the one thing.

So good.

Yeah.

You saw the prequel.

I watched the prequel.

Yeah.

It was way better.

No.

That's actually his.

Technically, he had his star taken from him.

He was forgiven, and then Michelle Later.

No, the tire guy.

That didn't quite work.

Sorry, listener.

That was shot in Alberta.

Unforgiven.

What?

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I knew somebody who worked on the set, and he said that to get everyone's attention, a lot of directors would get either on a bullhorn or get somebody to go on their behalf.

Clint Eastwood would just, if he was leaning against something silently, something was wrong.

Oh, you can hear Clint talking.

Very

like a mean teacher.

Yes.

Like, oh, teacher's not.

Uh-oh.

That kind of thing works for me, though.

It's just like, if I feel the tension of somebody, just quietly, I'll immediately be like, oh, this person wants us to look at them.

Hello.

I'm buckling.

I'm buckling.

I'm buckling.

Yeah.

I cave immediately to that.

I don't know why.

The silence.

What is?

It's easier to, you know, if somebody's yelling, you just be like,

yell louder.

Oh, you yell louder.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Either or.

Brokeback Mountain, also Calgary, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wild, Wild West.

You shot it at your high school.

Yeah.

I went to high school in Ponderosa.

Yeah.

I went to Lord Beaverbrook.

Oh, yes.

I knew a few people that went to Lord Beaverbrook.

Yeah.

It was, I don't think it was particularly great school.

Fair school.

Dave, your favorite Western school?

Oh, my favorite Western.

I don't know.

English Methodist.

I got to see some of these.

I hated them when I was a kid, and I was so turned off.

But I think

I think I don't mind a.

Everyone seems to like that tombstone.

I should check out Tombstone.

Tombstone is a very good thing.

It's pivotal.

Yeah.

It's a good classic.

I liked sort of those

handful they made in the 2000s.

The 310 to Yuma, the

True Grit.

Yeah, Wild Wild West.

Yep.

Wild West.

Wild Wild West.

Shanghai Noon.

Actually, Shanghai Noon is great.

Is it?

Yeah.

Never seen it.

Never seen it.

Yeah.

There's a lot of Jackie Chan's catalog I haven't I haven't watched.

Oh, Jackie Chan's catalog.

I grew up on that.

Yeah.

The Jackie Chan catalog, yeah.

Did you know that

what is the one?

Rumble and the Bronx was shot here.

Stop.

Yeah.

Really?

Yeah, because that's my favorite.

There's several scenes where you can see mountains in the background.

Okay, I got to re-watch, actually, because that one is...

I did not.

There are about five things we talk about on this podcast.

Jackie Chan.

And one of them is the Rumble and the Bronx was shot here.

The Bronx.

Graham, what's going on with you?

Well, it's that time of year.

It's getting colder.

The leaves are falling more than they were.

So much more.

So you know what it is?

Flu season.

Oh, no.

You don't have the flu, do you?

No, I don't.

And you know why?

Because

I got myself a flu shot.

And while I was there, COVID shot.

And you know what?

Do some polio, I said.

You want for polio?

Yeah.

And then, you know, one of the ones that you have to get for a vacation.

Oh, sure.

Shingricks?

No way.

Shingrix.

It's a hepatitis one is the one for vacation.

And I just said, lay them out, all the needles.

And just, you know what?

Just lay, you know, powder them up and I'll snort them.

Powder them up.

At shoppers?

Yeah.

Wow.

What did I get?

Oh, I still need to get my.

My doctor suggested I get the one they give little girls for HPV.

Oh, sure.

Yeah, they're expanding it to me.

Dudes?

The adult man.

Yeah.

But it's a three.

I just got to find the time to get these three shots.

Isn't that what happened to

isn't that what Michael was at Michael Douglas that got

throat cancer?

Well, he got throat cancer.

But then he was

from that.

From that.

From oral sexing,

Catherine's.

I believe he didn't name her.

I think he

was Catherine Jetta.

I think it might have been the 50 years before he met her as well.

Well, that's 50 years of satisfied ladies, if you ask ask me.

Uh, well, it's, I mean, if he's any good, maybe

he might be just like, I don't know what I'm doing.

That's the worst part.

Just tap me on the head if I uh do you wrong.

I might tap out at some point.

Yeah, I fell asleep.

Don't wake me up and spook me.

But I went to uh, you know, how like all across campaigns.

Oh, by the way, I got mine as well today.

Yeah, check out my uh

oh,

it doesn't hurt.

It doesn't hurt you.

It doesn't hurt.

Did you get two um Jebs?

Oh, I can see a little happy face.

They'll smiles at each other.

Oh, sure.

That's fun.

Yeah.

But I went to, because like all across Canada, you got Chavez Struckmart, which is like drugstore in name only and then like just stuff.

Like just,

you know, cosmetics to,

you know, not desirable fruits and like

cereals and cookies.

And like a

beer glass that you can put in the freezer and it freezes.

yeah

and like uh and they're owned by just the best guy and he's Canada's favorite guy we all love him Galen Weston yeah

he should use a neck strengthener pencil neck dweep no neck just wobbling but he that's a national chain in Vancouver we have London drugs is something that's not across the country

yeah I know people

because it's London Ontario no no it's sort of like Boston Pizza is not named after yeah I'll that.

New York fries as well.

Or deal with that anyway.

Canada doesn't know what cities in.

They just like,

pick a city.

Yeah.

There was a store when I was a kid called San Francisco for no reason.

San Francisco had the weirdest shit in there.

The weirdest shit.

All-in-the-dark posters, weirdly sexual.

Lots of sexual stuff.

Sexual like penis cups.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And like rude, non-rude gifts for your boss.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Like a pasta that was like pecaroni.

Yeah, you've got it.

A lot of like, you know, birthday cards that were like, my wife's a bitch.

Happy birthday.

Was it even the wife's birthday?

Just offside.

Those sold out, though.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So

I didn't go to either of those.

I went to a smaller pharmacy that was, and this is very weird because I haven't gone to one in years and years, just a pharmacy.

Was it PharmaSave?

It was.

And it's just, there's no magazines.

Do you know the jingles for all these stores?

Save more with PharmaSave.

Live well with

Save.

London Drugs, nobody does it better.

Yeah.

Or who was a Sarpsy?

Chopper's Drug Mart.

We do it better than London Drugs.

Charlotte's Drug Mart.

Everything you want in a drugstore.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But going into a pharmacy that has no.

London Drugs is also a pharmacy in name only because they have a big electronic section and they famously now have

these

decorative like lawn decorations, like basically the equivalent of

a garden gnome, but it's it's a banana that's a duck.

Yeah.

Wow.

And also an avocado that's a cat was one that came out.

You gotta go to London Drugs.

Yeah.

Oh, I mean, any chance I get, I'll want to do that.

Nobody does it better.

Yeah.

This is what I hear.

But PharmaSafe is just...

I get my photos developed there.

Do you?

Okay.

Where else would you go?

I guess.

It's whimsical of you.

But yeah, this is just, they only have medicine.

There's no fun things.

So you're supposed to kind of like hang out a little bit after you get the vaccine.

So I explored the mall, you see.

And this mall I used to go to pretty regularly.

That's where my physiotherapist was.

What mall?

City Center Mall.

Oh, yeah.

My physiotherapist.

I can't remember.

Her name is Cindy.

Cindy.

Yeah.

She was great, but then I found another one, and you know how it goes.

Hi, Tom.

You're telling me.

Yeah, heart wants what it wants.

I thought you were going to say,

she was great, but now my body's good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She fixed it too.

She did a two-way job.

Yeah, if anything, she made me stronger than I ever could have imagined.

Give me this neck exerciser.

Beefed it up.

But yeah, so I walked around the mall just seeing what's new.

Yeah.

They got a Daiso there.

Love a Daiso.

Yeah.

Wandered around there for a bit.

They got a really good dollar store.

So

Dollar Tree?

Dollarama.

Dollarama.

Dollarama.

So I went in there.

I bought us.

As we're recording this, this is before Halloween.

I bought a spooky necklace and a wig.

Oh!

All for under $5.

See, where are you going to find a better deal than that?

Nowhere.

Nowhere.

Truly nowhere.

So, and I wandered around there, and then...

Oh, you know what I bought at Dolorawa?

You maybe bought it too.

Which?

Because

it was right by the checkout.

It was a lighter with Blink 182 on it.

Oh, yeah, there were Foo Fighters ones there.

Foo lighters.

Yeah.

Foo lighters.

Okay.

I don't listen to them anymore because of his infidelity.

I know, but I only liked them when they were Fidelity.

Yeah, I only like rock stars

who never cheated on their rock stars.

Thank God all the other ones are good.

I would have anything to listen to.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That's true.

If you just had bands where there was no groupies, I mean, what band are you listening to?

Well, you're probably listening to a female band.

You're probably a Lilith Fair or any female-led band.

Do you...

Because when did Lilith Fair come out?

Cheat on your band.

All the time.

All the time.

And if he's listening.

I just remember hearing a kid talk about Lilith Fair, like it was this thing that was way in the past and isn't incredible.

I'm like,

yeah, that's weird.

That's past.

It was a phase.

There was like women in song, Lilith Fair, and Sarah McLachlan was.

Yeah, it was, you heard it here first.

It was just a phase, girl.

It's just a phase.

Get back in the kitchen.

Women in song?

Number one gift for your mom.

Oh, certainly.

Moms and daughters alike bonded to the soft tones of Jewels.

Jewels.

Meredith Brooks.

Sean Colvin, Colby Cayenne,

adult entertainers,

yeah.

You know what?

I bet they didn't have on Lilith Fair.

It doesn't seem like it would mix with the rest of the world.

On Lilith Fair, no, but maybe on Women in Song.

No, maybe not.

Maybe not.

It'd be a different, it would be a departure.

It would be.

I would sneak that in as a bonus track.

Women in Song.

Celebrity Skin, maybe?

What song would you throw in there?

Malibu is the

most.

That's probably the most.

That's got to be the

party track.

That's the one I request.

But that's the more like kind of like, oh, this could be on any radio.

Yeah, yeah, it's kind of funny.

The crossover.

The Beach Boys could have sung it.

But

the mall's doing great.

It's got some new, the Daiso was new.

That was new to me.

The Dollarama, that was new.

What's the name of the grocery store now?

Used to be Safeways now.

Sun Given Food.

Sun Given Food.

Sun Given.

Oh, wait, you know what?

Now that I think about it, that's a beautiful title.

Because the sun has giveth you some food.

Yeah, right.

That makes sense.

You know?

It's not sun giveth, though.

Well, it should be.

Okay.

Agreed.

Oh, now I got to open a grocery store right beside it.

Good food court, too.

Good food court.

A ⁇ W holds it.

Used to have

beard papas.

Oh, yeah.

No more beard papa.

But

I

went to the phone.

case desk to get a new glass thing on the way because it was all crap.

He remembered me and he was like, I remember this not sticking very well before.

And I was like, yeah, I remember that too.

He's like, is this refurbished?

I was like, yeah.

He's like, it just never sticks as well in the refurbished.

So we had a nice little back and forth.

He remembered me from back.

This is years ago.

Oh.

Now you don't do your own glass protector?

No, I don't trust myself to.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, they usually come in like a two or three pack and you waste one.

One to practice.

Do you have glass protector at all?

Oh, my friend, I don't have any protector.

No No glass, no case right now.

Yeah.

It is like, I've never felt more alive in my life.

You're raw dogging it.

I'm raw dogging it in life.

I literally.

Are you dropping this fall?

All the time.

Yeah.

And then I'm like, oh, is today the day?

And then I pick it up and it's fine and I'll never.

I think they're just making them better.

Everyone used to get cracked all the time.

I remember when one broke, I was walking.

It was like a winter day and it just fell out of my hands and landed face down.

I was like, this is it.

I turn it over, smash to bits.

Did you still use it, though?

No, it was like, it was literally what chopped up your finger if you.

Yeah.

It was like, this is instantly useless.

And yeah.

Then I had to just go on Craigslist and find the first phone I could get and

beat somebody out of food court.

Lots of witnesses.

Lots of witnesses you want.

You know who's going to show up.

They don't know who I am when they showed up.

Now that

mall also,

there's a scene in the movie Fear with Mark Wahlberg where they

beat someone up in the bathroom.

That's all.

They should put little signs everywhere that's.

I mean, I think maybe

it would be nice if

there was a post there that was signed by Mark Wahlberg.

I kicked the shit out of someone in this toilet.

Have a good shit.

Yeah.

Have a good shit.

Keep reaching for the stuff.

Have a good shit.

Not to be confused with the guy I beat up in real life.

No, no, no, no.

So 9-11 would be different if I was there.

Such a long, such a long quote.

But you got so many bangers.

He really does.

Also, I go to bed at 7.30 so I can wake up at 2 in the morning and pray.

Yes.

I know.

Never hang out with his kids.

I think he's got like an hour of that.

Yeah.

If that.

If that.

I think I'm being generous, actually.

He's trying to make another TED sequel.

He's got to cool it.

Yeah, and then like...

I'm trying to think of what else.

There was another thing in the mall.

Tell me what was that at the mall?

The thing that was conspicuously absent, there there was for a long time there was some sort of hair and esthetician training school

that was up at the top of the escalator.

But

Carrie's putting them out of business.

Yeah.

Gone rogue.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This was every other time I would go to the mall, there would be people walking around with like brand new bold

coffee coffees and just making them.

Yeah.

Glamour shots.

And give you a kicky new do.

I was always curious about getting a hairdo out of.

Get your beard blown out.

I should.

Do some, you know, do something with it.

Get some, you know,

straighten them.

Get like a nice

stick straight.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Is that, should I?

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Dave said yes.

Okay.

Guys, I'm getting bangs.

Straight beard.

Read your first.

My bags would be so far up on my forehead.

I mean, the beard is the bangs of the chin.

So, you know,

matching right on top.

So, like a

yeah.

I don't know how you do that.

I don't know.

I got to figure that out.

You have to glue hair to my you have to.

Yeah.

That's what they do.

I don't have a lot of real estate to play with.

Up top, it's

mostly marshland, and then on the back, sure, there's hair on the back, but uh, you can't, what good is that?

Yeah, you know, nobody's looking at your back, no, except maybe people on an elevator, anyways.

Well, other than your wife is looking back in anger,

which you've asked her not to.

I've asked her not to.

Yeah, the uh, but anyways, City Center Mall, just go there, take it in.

We talk about Kingsgate Mall all the time.

Sometimes Metro Town will drop a mention.

City Center never gets the love.

City Center, is it called City Square?

Maybe City Square.

City Square, yeah.

So that's part of the problem here.

We don't have a clear nomenclature for this.

It's in this city.

It's somewhere in the middle.

Yeah, but we're not sure what it is.

It's right next to City Hall.

Used to be the City Hall, apparently.

Okay.

The mall?

Yeah.

Why, if you go in there, there, there's like all these like weird places.

Oh, yeah.

They do have a lot of like plaques that like Mark Wallwork was here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This pillar used to be the city hall.

Yeah.

Amy, you work for Vancouver Magazine.

Maybe I think the people are begging for a ranking of all the malls in town.

You know what's so funny is that

Stacey McLaughlin, another shout out to Stacey, wrote a story about Tinseltown Mall.

And it kind of went viral a little bit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because it was kind of that.

It's like, what the heck is this mall?

How does it exist?

Blah, blah, blah.

So that's my favorite.

Sally and I were chatting about that very article because we were in

Tinseltown Mall.

That's where you saw the substance?

Yeah.

Yeah, me too.

But it's

one of the escalators there smelled like garbage.

Yeah.

I don't know what happened.

Maybe somebody spilled garbage all over it.

That's probably.

Oh, boy.

And then the garbage gets stuck in the gears.

Now it's actually integral to how it runs.

That's the irony.

They can't take the garbage out.

That's kind of sort of what the substance is about.

No.

Spoilers.

But yeah, check out your local mall.

Check out your local mall that's not like the mall.

Yeah, go to that mall.

Go to the other mall that's mostly like doctor's offices.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mall, yeah.

Hot yoga.

What was your mall in Calgary?

I mean.

Your go-to.

Where did you spend the most probably

Sunridge Mall?

Sunridge.

Is that crazy?

Yeah.

I worked at that mall.

What did you do?

I worked at Starbucks.

Okay, cool.

I was, yeah, I was in high school.

So I'd literally work and then go with my latte and like probably some croissant and go to school.

So you would work before school?

I know.

Because I had a free period.

What time did your shift start?

Early.

Like five.

The mall was open at five.

Not the mall.

The Starbucks.

They were in the Starbucks.

Side entrance.

Outside entrance.

Yeah.

And but also.

But then when the mall opened, we were in the mall.

But also, you also like.

You get to work before the Starbucks opens.

Yeah.

Right.

Someone's got it.

You can't just be unlocking it.

Okay, folks.

Everybody pilot it.

Sometimes that happened, but then I'd say, wait, everybody, I need a minute.

Yeah.

I'm only, were you there alone or did you have to?

No, you'd have, you legally had to have two.

Good.

Yeah.

And especially if one of them was a child.

Yeah.

Yes.

You're now.

Who has a minimum of two children after?

Yeah, two children.

Yeah.

South Center, that was one.

South Center.

Oh, yeah.

I always forget about that one, too.

Yeah.

Had the Eatons on one side, A on the other.

What?

Eatons of the Bay, though.

Yeah.

Remember those Titans?

Yeah, I mean, the Bay is still with us.

The Bay.

Well, who knows for how long.

That's true.

You been in the Bay or Lazy?

It's like

they feel like they're a big

corporation and they own like Sacks Fifth Avenue as well.

Like their company owns a bunch of things.

And they,

boy, you want to talk about escalators and

out of shape.

Every other escalator broken elevator only kind of holds like four or five people.

Are you talking the bay?

The bay.

Oh, yeah.

See, they're not repairing it.

Do they have the best?

Which I feel is a bad thing.

Because there's like lots of empty

space.

Nobody really works there.

They just kind of meander and they don't make eye contact with you.

It's very hard to find someone if you need to check out.

Like to find a till that's open.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember walking out of a change room and just like no one was around.

I was like, is the mall closed?

And then I just kind of walked out.

I was like, I guess I'm leaving.

And then you were like, I can't leave.

I'm a mannequin.

I'm a mannequin.

And then that night I would come to life.

Yeah.

And I was Kim Cottrell.

That's the mannequin one I chose.

Yeah, absolutely.

Of the mannequin.

Of the mannequin.

There's a few, right?

I think there was a time when that genre was like a mannequin

was the movie.

And then there was mannequin two,

and then maybe that's it.

There was a kid's television show.

Today's special.

Today's special.

That was the other one I was going to say.

Yeah, he was a mannequin that would turn into a person if he took his hat off.

If the hat came off, he became human, which is so precarious in a mall because that hat could come off pretty well.

Oh, yeah, any kid could pull that hat off.

And then what he got, daytime man.

And then Kim Cattrell was all like a squee-badaba deeper.

She doesn't have a scat.

Yeah, well, it's not scat.

I'm wrong.

People say scats.

She never scats.

She's doing beat posts.

The heat dogs, but she's called Kim Scattrell.

Okay.

This is good.

There it is.

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Overheard.

Overheards.

Section of the show where, boy, oh boy, isn't it fun to hear things and see things as well?

Or, you know what, what, on the rare occasion, dream something.

Uh, we always like to start with the guest.

Carrie, oh, do you have an overheard?

I do.

It's, um,

I'll, I'll admit it, it's a dated one, so it happened in the past.

That's fine, but it lingers still.

It's still, I think about it every now and again.

Speaking of lingers, does this room just become spelly?

Excuse me.

Um, if you're in a case, I feel like someone is either cooking something upstairs or the house is on fire.

Oh, oh,

oh, I don't, I don't.

Okay, Well, I'm pretty at something up on the grill.

Yeah.

You grill and stuff?

Yeah.

Go on.

Okay.

Sorry.

No, now I'm consumed by what the smell is.

That's fine.

I'll figure it out later.

So

I lost my train of thought.

I am the worst.

You're saying the old.

Yeah.

So I used to live in a house with Allie, actually.

Oh, yeah.

She says Allie Antwistle.

Yeah.

Shout out.

Antipistle, as I like to call her.

We have fun.

She's a little piss head.

And

we, my special piss head, we lived together.

It was a very rambunctious time.

It was also, you know, obviously COVID and all that stuff happened.

This is how far back.

And we had our

landlord was interesting.

Sure.

Vancouver's full of them.

Truly interesting, though.

But we need them.

They're our best of the right guy.

They're holding up society.

Currently, yes.

And Allie wasn't there, but I was just at home puttering as I do.

And I could overhear.

Hey, that's the,

because we were downstairs.

It wasn't underground, but it was below him because he lived upstairs.

I could hear him having a conversation with his then-girlfriend or something.

And it was basically,

I could, I was like in the room with them.

And she was, the part I heard that led me in, because it was like Wydolf's son was, don't be mad at me.

I read your computer.

Are you cheating on me?

And yeah, cup to the, you know, heater, I was in the room with them.

Absolutely.

They didn't know I was there, but I was there because I could tell he was gaslighting her.

Yeah, because she was apologizing.

First of all, I know he was cheating because I saw another girl.

She was cheating.

Yeah.

I saw another girl because I was always like, not that I'm like sitting there watching his comings and goings, but like we kind of have almost the same entrance and stuff.

So I could just hear when people are coming and going.

And I was like, oh, I guess that was her and stuff.

And he was basically saying, no, I didn't, denying it, even though I knew I had the receipts.

And then he was basically pivoting and making her out to be the crazy one for reading his private computer screen.

And she was like, no, well, I didn't mean to, but you know, she was trying to refocus it.

Yeah.

And I was just like, the whole time, I was basically like whispering in the heater, like, like, it's true.

Don't like, and I could tell she was apologizing more.

He made it so that she had to apologize for like, you know, overstepping and the privacy thing, even though it was like, wasn't the issue of conversation.

I was just literally listening to the mastermind.

It was so good.

Gaslighting.

What a good move.

And I was just like, literally, Allie came home and.

I told her everything.

I was in her room.

I don't think she knows this on a chair listening because I was that engrossed.

Whatever I was supposed to be doing that afternoon was done i was in the room

and i was yeah which i made up for later that evening um

my god it was juicy it was salacious amazing it was like i've i and it's so weird because i could never really hear their conversations but that one i was

maybe it's because it was so intriguing my brain just like

yeah did you

man so this was during lockdown uh it was a little it was definitely it was kind of covet era but not okay we weren't like fully it would have been hard to cheat that's what i'm thinking well i was kind of thought the same thing i think but i bet this guy would find a way he did he really did he was a he was interesting we he liked to do that yeah he no he

like literally the first time we met him we needed a place though we went and like both went to sign how do they get you and he like dropped the the hard r word in it like casually

and we were both just like

yeah

and then we're just like haha but we needed a place to live so obviously that wasn't a deal break.

Well, there's a, there's a, you know, the rules don't apply.

Hey, you know, everyone's got to live somewhere.

When

this guy's, when you own a place to live.

When you always felt that way, though, we were kind of just like, sure.

Graham, can I ask you, did you, is that the screen protector you just had put on?

Yeah.

It's got bubbles in it.

Yeah, you may want to.

I got a receipt.

You got to go back to that guy.

I got a receipt.

But I didn't have time to go do it between y'all and y'all.

Dave, do you have an award?

Oh, yeah, I do.

Mine's an overseen.

I was downtown today.

I was on Robson Street.

Yeah.

Canada's

largest shopping store.

Outdoors.

Yeah.

And

I was turning the corner and I saw a restaurant that I had never seen before.

And it is called 9-11 Pizza.

Whoa.

What?

Okay.

It is Pearl Harbor Pizza.

9-11 Pizza.

Really?

Oh, stop.

And everything,

it's got, so 9,

in fairness, $9.11 pizza.

Yeah, but very specific.

Yeah.

And why pick that price?

Everything on the menu is $9.11.

Maybe with tax, it comes to an even $10?

Yeah.

We're not making change.

Right.

Oh, yeah.

They're always like, oh, sorry.

I don't have anything.

And they're like, Tom, you can't break this.

But they do, in fairness, have a sort of a

police crest

for, so maybe it's 9-1-1 pizza.

Oh, that's fun.

Is it?

I think either way.

Either way, you slice it.

But

I was like, I haven't been downtown in a while.

And is that a good price?

$9.11 for

everything on the menu?

A slice and just one slice?

No, it's

a whole pizza of a certain size.

A small pizza, I think.

That's kind of the two ways it can go.

It's like either an expensive, really nice slice or a gross whole pizza.

Yeah.

It's sort of the Little Caesars model.

Yeah.

$5 take and hot and ready.

Hot and ready.

Hot and ready.

Yeah.

It wasn't fresh.

They didn't say hot and ready.

I lived around the corner from Lil Caesars for a while.

What about that crazy bread?

I know.

It was killing me.

You know what I mean?

Having a hot and ready at any time of the day.

It shouldn't be that hot and ready at all times.

Exactly.

Give me a second.

You know?

Yeah.

Give me a buffer.

Give me a buffer.

Yeah.

Pizza town.

so sorry we're not ready here but come back later

just yeah exactly let me just refresh and kind of you know why pick 911

so hot because it doesn't have the same ring as 912 just oh it didn't doesn't do anything didn't land yeah

we ran all the models and this is just the price that works best but also any store like this

with inflation you're gonna are you gonna be 911 pizza any year I've always wondered that.

Yeah.

I mean, dollar stores.

They're not dollars.

When I first came to Vancouver,

it was 87 years ago.

To the dollar.

Dollar slice.

There used to be a dollar slice.

Buck a slice.

Buck a slice two was considered out of this world.

Do you find now you're an old man and when you remember old prices, you're like, damn, old people used to always talk about how the bus cost one cent.

Yeah.

And it's like a friend said that you're constantly pointing at buildings and saying, that used to be a bank.

That's like an old old threshold.

I think that's a threshold that I'm not at.

You're not at yet.

Thank God, because I don't.

What does a bus ride take?

I know everybody ride her slip up.

375.

375, maybe.

I think it went up a little bit.

I load my card and I don't pay attention to how much I'm going to do.

I do the same thing.

Yeah, I'm just like.

When I first took the bus to school as a little child, 60 cents.

Nice.

Now you know what it costs for kids?

Free.

Yeah, I guess.

Works the other way.

Work the other way.

We just have to be children.

I'm one at heart.

So can I have children's prices?

That and your whole thing.

You know what the children's money is?

I got a permit from the city.

Yeah.

Anyway, 9-11 pizza.

Check it out.

It's got a Michelin star.

Oh!

Congratulations!

Good for them.

Good for them.

Hot end Michelin star.

Yeah.

Oh, boy.

Off one of those hot, right?

How about you, Graham?

How are you doing for Overhear?

Oh, I'm doing okay.

Did we record yesterday?

Yes.

So when I was in our nation's capital, Ottawa, I was staying at a hotel that had a pool.

Brig.

Yeah, huge, right?

You went in?

No, I didn't bring trunks.

Never even think about it until I get there.

You don't need trunks.

That's true.

Yeah.

Where we're going, we don't need trunks.

Sir, you need to put on trunks.

We'll see.

Sue me.

Then they do.

They do.

Yeah, they ruined my life.

Yeah.

Sued for nude.

Suede nude.

But one of the great things about being in a hotel where there's a pool is you get on the elevator, there's people in their swimsuits.

Yeah.

Where are you guys?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that was it.

That was the little snippet that I heard: there's two kids going to the pool and a woman, and she just said, you know, excited for the pool?

And they were like, yeah.

So it was just a fun little slice of life.

Fun place of life.

Yeah, because there is

those floors where it's like, pool is, you have to go down one level to get to the pool.

And you'll just follow the scent of chlorine.

Yes.

Oh, when you get on an elevator where they're coming back from the pool.

Or where the door opens to that floor.

It's like a wall of

humidity hits you.

Yeah, moisture and screams.

Let's start packing the trunks from now on.

Sure.

Take advantage of these pools.

I've been doing this emergency bathing suit.

Go on.

You know, plan for the life you want.

But like, I'd like to encounter water, so if I prepare for it.

So this is when traveling or just in traveling, when you keep one in your bag at all times, then my trunk, my car, and no.

Actually, I used to, but I don't have a car right now.

Uh,

yeah, sometimes I'll even wear it.

I crashed it when I was driving wet, all wet from the pool.

Oh, no, and you just left the scene, yeah, you're too embarrassed, ashamed.

My couldn't hit the brakes of my flip-flop, but the cop was like somebody was just having fun.

This one, yeah, somebody was just at the pool.

There's a pool noodle at the scene, there's a trail of wet footprint.

Now we also have overheards sent into us by people all over the world.

If you want to send one in, send it into spy at maximumfun.org.

And this first one comes from Alexa from Montreal.

And this is perfect because it's about swimming.

Oh my god.

Okay, let me put on my trunks.

I was camping last weekend.

I was sitting by the lake one evening watching the sunset.

There were two tween boys swimming nearby, and they started challenging each other to do different things, holding their breath longer, underwater handstands, etc.

One of the boys won a challenge and called out to a man sitting in the chair on the beach reading a book, who mildly said, Oh, nice.

And the boy said, Ugh, dad, you missed it.

All you care about is reading your book and drinking cider.

You have two loves, and neither of them are your sons.

As a parent, I can just say it's like, when they get you, they get you.

Cut to the core.

Because of the core of the apple, is making the cider, okay?

Do you?

Is that part of Fatherly Life having to watch?

Hey, Dad, watch this.

Check this out.

Do you have your music?

Yeah, yeah.

Very good.

Very good.

I'm into it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Then do you do some for them?

Check us out.

Normally I'm like,

I can do better than that.

Nice.

Give me that.

Give me that pool, noodle.

Show you how it's done.

But usually I'm pretty scared.

Oh, no,

it can't go off the diving board.

I think I heard my mom calling me.

Here we go.

This next one comes from Julie from Kennewick,

Washington.

Ah, was at the thrift store.

Made up.

And there were a couple of bros.

I've been thritting before, I think.

Oh, Aggie?

Yeah, it's one of the Tri-Cities.

Julie from Kennewick.

Regular.

I was at the thrift store.

There were a couple of bros in the next aisle.

One guy held up a couple of shirts to get his friend's opinion.

And the other guy said, To play devil's asshole, neither would work on you.

Oh!

That is the expression, as I understand it.

to be.

If he's being devil's advocate, it doesn't work.

But as devil's asshole, it kind of works.

On the mic, yeah.

Yeah, like he is, he has an opinion on it of being devil's asshole.

He's being a little asshole about it.

Yeah, what would the, I guess there's no devil's advocate in that situation.

No, it's just the devil's being an asshole.

Yeah, and then he gave kind of an asshole opinion.

Yeah, exactly.

The devil's advocate is

when

I'm pretending I'm saying the thing, it's not my actual opinion.

Yeah.

But if.

Reluctantly saying the counterpoint of anonymous.

Whereas I think Devil's.

Not even reluctantly.

I'm taking a little bit of joy.

I feel like they pretend they're like, oh, if I must, but then they relish it.

Whereas Devil's Asshole, you just launch right into it.

Yeah.

And Devil's Advocate is a movie with Keanu Reeves and Al Pacino.

And Devil's Asshole starred

Robert De Niro.

Robert Friedrich.

And Randy Quade.

Randy Grande's in there.

He was the asshole in that film.

This last one comes from David C.

from Davis, California.

That's kind of fun.

David is.

He gets it every day.

Yeah, he's like, I hate it.

I went to the Outside Lands Musical Festival a few weeks ago.

The gates were open, but before the music started, I was walking across the field to the main stage and heard these two guys talking about a third person.

One was definitely less sober than the other.

One guy says, oh, wow, did you see that guy?

Yeah, dude.

I didn't know him, but he just had a beautiful soul and energy.

He's just got all good vibes, love and life.

And his friends cuts him off.

I mean, I guess, but he was also dressed like a fucking bird.

Dude, how high are you?

And as a footnote, there was a guy wearing a brown feather vest and had a white feather hood, so he looked like an eagle.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, that's kind of a, that's a lot.

And festivals, I feel, like, have, people sometimes are like, I'm going to be the guy everyone recognizes.

Yeah, yeah.

You're making choices.

You're swinging for the fences at the festival.

I think, I mean, you talk about festivals burning, man.

People are building entire fucking cars and houses and shit.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Is that even a festival or is it just a

way of life?

Yeah.

It's an essence.

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Ugh, SpyPod 1, like these people have.

Hi, Graham and Dave.

Go on.

And possible guests.

This is Severa in Atlanta with an overheard.

So I was on my way to work probably or somewhere.

And after school

in this downtown area where I live, and people hang out.

So these kids are hanging out.

And one of them is saying to the other one,

well, he definitely killed those kids.

And the other one goes,

yeah.

And then the first one goes, but he didn't eat the kids.

And that's an important distinction.

Very important.

And the other one goes, yeah, it is.

And that's what I heard.

From a legal point of view.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And then you ate the children?

No, no, no.

No, no.

I'm not afraid of Hansel and Grabbing.

What am I?

The freaking

Jack of the Beanstalk guy.

Giant.

The giant?

The big guy?

Jack?

No, no, no, no, Jack didn't eat kids.

Well, how do we know?

We don't know.

Yeah.

It wasn't proven innocent.

Yeah, I guess.

I mean,

wow.

That's like.

Good.

Good.

They're not eating the kids.

It's like...

Or is that a waste of a kid?

Oh.

Waste not, want not.

This is crazy.

I'm just going to take the devil's advocate here.

Would it be so wrong?

That's more of a devil's asshole.

Yeah, there's more devil's asshole.

I mean, devil's advocate would be the, like, is that not...

cool?

Is it wasting the kid to not yeah fair enough devil's asshole would be devil's advocate is not a good advocate.

No, no, you don't want to be around that guy.

No, hate that guy.

Here's your next phone call

Hey, Dave, Graham,

probably a guest.

Nailed it every time.

I was at

the dentist the other day and had to fill out like a new set of paperwork.

I think

like COVID's coming back.

Are you in the same room as your phone?

I think I knew what they meant on the paperwork, but it said, Have you ever met someone with the following symptoms?

And the symptoms were diarrhea, headache, cough.

And uh I checked no and

really wanted to write in no,

never even heard of a

don't know anybody with a cough for diarrhea.

Have you ever met someone with diarrhea?

Not that I know of.

Nah, not a purpose.

Yeah,

not like, not one.

I was suspicious once, but

of the diarrhea?

Yeah.

Or the cough.

One can lead to the other.

No, I do.

A.

Yeah.

Well, there was this one guy coughing up diarrhea.

Oh,

I thought that's what I thought.

I thought

it was a guy coughing up diarrhea, but it was a Wendy's Frosty machine.

Very similar.

That happens.

Yeah, that's awesome.

All right.

Final phone call.

Hi, Dave, Graham, and

probable guest.

This is Andreas from upstate New York.

I was in downstate New York, in New York City, and

I was behind some finance bros, and one of them said,

So the exterminator said

you could just step on it.

And I was like, dude, that's your your job.

Okay, that's it.

Honestly, fair.

Yeah.

That's airtight.

Yeah.

What did I hire you for?

What are you trained to do here, sir?

Why are you here?

Yeah, like the idea of like calling an exterminator.

Can you come step on this cockroach?

It's really big, though.

You come over right away.

There's a spider that looks up.

Bring boots.

Yeah, bring boots.

And maybe a weapon.

I don't know.

And some toilet paper.

I don't have any toilet paper, so I gotta bring.

And a sandwich, okay?

Yeah, if you're out there anyway.

Yeah, if you're out, if you're driving.

If you don't mind stopping by Subway and get me one of those foot-long cookies.

Hit it up.

Oh, foot-long cookies.

Have you not heard about this?

No.

Oh, my God.

You don't know Subway.

I don't.

They only got two booms on the Boom Meter, though.

The Costco double chocolate cookie gets five booms.

Oh, okay.

Yes.

This is like an online

Rizzler.

Well, the Rizzler's involved, but

big justice in AJ.

I mean, at this point, at the time of this recording, they're blowing up.

But by the time this episode comes out, they'll have.

Maybe already a scandal's erupted.

Maybe.

Real milkshake dog situation.

Yeah.

I hope he doesn't eat those kids.

Oh, God.

Well, they got to stop dosing themselves in chocolate all the time.

They're begging for it, having all these kids and cookies in the same location.

Sure.

Would it be better if he ate the kids alive?

Well,

you didn't need a legal standpoint.

You never killed a kid.

Your honor.

They were alive when I ate them.

If you show me in the rule book.

Yeah, exactly.

And also, there's a dog being a lawyer at this trial.

Come on.

And he's shooting three pointers.

In the Mickey Jack and the Beanstalk.

Yeah.

Is that the one where they eat the big bean?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

And then he climbs up the beanstalk, and the giant gets them.

And does he hold him in his hand and he

pushes his head down with his finger in his fist?

It might pick him up, doesn't he?

He's going to roll a cigarette or something with him in it.

Yeah, that might be it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I have a very that Disney kind of like rolling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Very, that air of

really go for a Mickey smoke right now

well that brings us to the end of this podcast Carrie tell us what where can people see you where they can read you in Vancouver magazine that you can do um yeah Van Meg you can uh I'm doing a monthly sketch show with brunch um that is at Little Mountain at Little Mountain Gallery yes uh shoot it would have been nice if I would have remembered when it was but uh we we do one every month.

So, you know, one's coming up.

Yeah.

You've got to think about it.

Dave's on the case.

Yes.

There's a back end of the site.

There's got to be, yeah.

We have the internet.

Bingo.

What else?

Let me see.

Show schedule.

Show schedule.

I know.

I really sent you through it.

And then we do treat show as well.

So

what's that?

That's an improv, improv comedy.

We do it.

We used to do it weekly, but we got tired.

Yeah.

So now we're doing a monthly, which is weekly shows hard.

Holy man.

It's just, and we were doing, and we do two shows.

So it was weekly double

double shows.

Yeesh is right.

And that is Little Mountain as well?

That's actually at the China Cloud Studios.

Oh,

yeah.

So that's the first Saturday of the month.

That one I know.

If you're in Vancouver and you've never been to the China Cloud,

it's one of the coolest venues.

So cool.

Yeah.

You feel so cool getting to dinner.

Guys, I'm not going to find this.

I made it up.

Okay.

Are you happy?

Little Mountain Gallery.

Yeah.

You know what?

Brunch Comedy.

The website is just not

working.

It's going to rip into the IT guy, I'll tell you.

Okay, let's give me a second.

Sent to me, you got

well.

Don't hack into my website.

I put a firewall for a reason.

What about the mainframe?

Can I hack on that?

Stay out of my mainframe.

Ah, fine.

That'd be a good bumper sticker thing for a guy's computer.

Stay out of my mainframe.

You know what?

I'll go to Brunch Comedy's Instagram page.

Hey,

here and see some fun, lighthearted content about two besties

serving it all.

It's currently out of date.

It says tickets for the September 27th show.

Why do we even try?

I can't even plug it.

It sounds like it's late in the month.

There's one Friday, June 28th.

Yeah, that sounds about right.

Are they usually Fridays?

They kind of roll it off.

Yes.

They've been typically Fridays, so let's go with that.

Okay.

So a Friday in November.

One of the later Fridays of the month.

Could be coming up.

Could be.

Could be coming up as this is released.

Okay, now I'm definitely going to cross-reference with this.

And listeners, you're still here.

You look at your comments and you're like, wow, there's one minute left in the show.

I better stick around.

Yeah.

Does Dave crack the case?

Is the last Friday of the month in November going to be brunch?

Come on.

Come on.

The 29th.

Whoa.

29th.

29th of November.

I like the number.

At 9 p.m.

Okay, 9 p.m.

Little Mountain Gallery, 110 Water Street.

Thank you for being our guest.

Thank you for having me.

It's great.

I'm so happy I found it.

Dave, thank you for finding it.

Thank you.

That was really well done.

Yeah.

Thank you, everybody out there, for listening.

As you're listening, November's drawing to a close, so it's time to put that mistletoe up and start smooching everyone around you.

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