#659: Walt the Pugilist

Speaker 1 You broke his nose that bad?

Speaker 2 It was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 And this is the first time we're hearing about this.

Speaker 1 It's awful. It's awful.

Speaker 1 Sounds up my alley today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd hit the ground, my shoulder would turn to dust. I'd be like, oh, wow, parlay! Parlay!

Speaker 2 Tell him, Steve, Dave.

Speaker 1 Hello, and welcome to this week's edition of Tell him Steve Dave. I've got a sick Walt Flanagan.
Hello.

Speaker 1 I've got a perturbed BQ.

Speaker 1 It's one thing after another over here today.

Speaker 1 What is this show going to be like? I don't know. But aren't

Speaker 1 I thought Walt was getting sick at the Christmas thing?

Speaker 1 I heard his voice. I was like, well, we're all going to be sick for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling?

Speaker 1 I'm so angry right now that

Speaker 1 it's just overriding every fucking.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so don't worry about me. All right.
Well, let's get going then. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I know Q is limited time. Walt,

Speaker 1 your lines are playing today. Soon.
We're recording early on a Sunday morning, 11.45 on a Sunday, so Walt can get to his game by one. Yeah, they started like one.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 That's our goal today, Q.

Speaker 1 Sick as Walt is,

Speaker 1 I should take more pages out of Walt Flanagan's book. I went to the doctor the other day.

Speaker 1 Well, first, let's do some housekeeping.

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving. Again, no Black Friday.

Speaker 2 No Black Friday at the general store.

Speaker 1 At the General Store.

Speaker 2 We will have Black Friday merch dropping midnight on Thursday. Brand new ball cap, trucker hat.

Speaker 2 It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 Pretty sweet.

Speaker 2 I like it. It's going to go on sale at midnight on Thanksgiving.
And

Speaker 1 also, excuse me,

Speaker 2 40%

Speaker 2 off all other merch from

Speaker 2 Thursday at midnight till Sunday midnight. So pretty sweet

Speaker 2 promotion where you could pick up some items at a real

Speaker 1 big deal, big steep discounts.

Speaker 2 40% off, nothing to sneeze at.

Speaker 1 No, definitely not.

Speaker 1 So Christmas is done. That's the other thing.

Speaker 1 Well, not done. Well, not for you.
Recorded. It's recorded.
Yeah. Yeah, there's a difference.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's going to probably clock in as maybe the longest episode ever.

Speaker 1 That's what I was thinking today. I think Space Monkey Save Christmas holds the record so far for Christmas episodes.

Speaker 2 Do you remember how long that was?

Speaker 1 I think it was like four something hours.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, this is going to blow it out of the water. This might be seven to eight hours long.

Speaker 1 18 contestants.

Speaker 2 The fight for women's suffrage to participate in TSD Town events is finally over as we finally welcome female contestants.

Speaker 1 Wait, this is the first sign.

Speaker 2 It's 2025 in TSD Town. You know, I love it.
The gals finally get a seat at the table.

Speaker 1 We're progressing over here.

Speaker 1 Not for nothing, but one of my favorite one true three stories of the whole thing belonged to one of those. I mean, literally blew my mind.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so great.

Speaker 2 There's controversial stories, scandalous stories, sultry stories, and of course, head scratching stories, but all

Speaker 2 have one thing in common. They're all Christmas or Hanukkah stories.

Speaker 2 And it's going to drop on Tuesday, December 23rd on Patreon and Bandcamp. And 100% of the Bandcamp sales go to help two aunt families this year who are dealing with cancer in their family.

Speaker 2 So it'll be a two-parter on Bandcamp. I think it'll be just one large episode on Patreon, though.
Yeah. I don't imagine we'll have to split it up.

Speaker 2 And part one will cost $4.99, and part two will cost $4.99. So

Speaker 2 it'll be an even split for those two families.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Christmas time. Christmas time and cancer.
They go together hand in hand.

Speaker 1 They always have. They always have, right?

Speaker 1 That's what people think when they think of Christmas.

Speaker 1 What do you think of when you think of Christmas?

Speaker 1 I think of pressure. That's what I think of, yeah, like I got to buy people stuff.
I got to think of stuff for people.

Speaker 1 Got to go to people's houses. It's a whole lot of, it's cold outside,

Speaker 1 miserable.

Speaker 1 But I feel like somebody at this table

Speaker 1 thinks the opposite, though. You're a big Christmas guy, right?

Speaker 2 I used to be.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're not anymore? With the

Speaker 2 advent of the Telme City Dave Christmas special

Speaker 2 and the pressure. You're talking about pressure.
The pressures of that have made it. So I kind of dread this time of year.
But I will say it is an awesome feeling to

Speaker 2 have it in the can and that weight off your shoulders of like, okay, all we got to do is edit a fucking nine to ten hour

Speaker 1 show

Speaker 2 and whittle it down to any, you know, to a manageable episode. But that's the easy part.
The hard part is the pressure of make, you know, will everybody be able to come?

Speaker 1 You know, will it all work out?

Speaker 2 Will there be any technical issues?

Speaker 1 There's a lot of

Speaker 1 moving parts to this, yeah. Like, and uh, to get everybody's schedules to coincide so they can all come at the same time, that's no small feat.
No,

Speaker 2 we got it, we got, I mean,

Speaker 2 it is cool, though. Like,

Speaker 2 everybody that was involved, and even the people who weren't involved who couldn't make it that night, though,

Speaker 1 we do got a pretty

Speaker 2 killer crew

Speaker 2 in terms of like just friendly, cool people, though. You know, they sat around and waited for hours until it was their turn, never once bitched, never once were like.

Speaker 1 And you're talking hours, like five hours.

Speaker 1 They're good people, all of them.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 1 I was thinking about like...

Speaker 1 Like Chuck sat in the hallway for like six hours. Jumps in,

Speaker 1 smile on his face, you know what what I mean? Like, just as friendly and as helpful, and like, I want to, I want to be a part of it as

Speaker 1 they all were. And I, I'm using Chuck's name, but that's literally every person that was on the show was like, ah, whatever, man.
This is fun. It was, it was cool.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there's nobody that comes in and makes it hard.

Speaker 2 Right. Like, nobody gets, nobody makes it hard.
Everybody kind of wants to make it as

Speaker 2 a fun event as possible. And that's a very much appreciated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's for sure, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 I told I was so happy with Jimmy the Hair guy and his performance that I gave him the official QS nod the other day. I saw that as he was leaving.
I saw the nod and I saw Jimmy

Speaker 1 brighten up. Yeah, I was like, this Jimmy the Hair guy.
I like Jimmy the Hair guy. I play, you know, I play like he's a little bit like I don't, but I really, I really do like the guy.

Speaker 1 And after having his contributions and,

Speaker 1 overwhelmingly positive and fun to be around all the time, I thought this is a good guy to hang out with. And honestly, I always knew he was going to come.

Speaker 1 I was just holding him over the barrel a little bit.

Speaker 1 But yesterday I was like, nah, I got to let this guy in. I got to

Speaker 1 let him come.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way,

Speaker 1 I'll be lucky to have him there, not the other way around. Jimmy the Hair guy brings something every time he comes.
He sure does. Yeah.
Jimmy the Hair Guy, I was thinking about him.

Speaker 1 Walt, you might be more

Speaker 1 able to answer this. Is Jimmy the Hair Guy overexposed? I see that he's doing reviewing history stuff.
He's on their Patreon. He's at these juggalo meets.
I mean,

Speaker 1 those people who are, you know,

Speaker 2 getting him on their shows, you know, they see the

Speaker 2 talent. that is a Jimmy the Hair guy.
They see that,

Speaker 2 you know, they want some of that for their population.

Speaker 1 They want some of that magic for them. Yep.

Speaker 1 That's understandable.

Speaker 1 Sure. But does Jimmy the Hair Guy owe us anything

Speaker 1 for discovering him after he bought that hair?

Speaker 2 I guess it is kind of like, if he doesn't buy that hair, I don't think he becomes friends with any of the guys

Speaker 1 in TSD. No, that was a small price to pay.
For Jimmy the Hair Guy to get the new circle of friends that he has.

Speaker 1 Even though they use him as a punching bag, from what I understand, he's on a group chat and everybody makes fun of him. Poor Jimmy the Hair guy.
Get him over there chuckling.

Speaker 1 I think Jimmy's one of those guys, though, that the jokes on everybody else. Oh, yeah?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so. I think, like,

Speaker 1 you look like, you know, you're ripping on Jimmy, but you're just flapping your gums. You know, Jimmy's out there making things happen.

Speaker 1 He's getting married.

Speaker 1 He's every.

Speaker 1 Do you follow him on Instagram by any chance?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Well, you don't really use social social media.

Speaker 1 If you follow him on Instagram, this dude is everywhere. He's at every con.

Speaker 1 He's at every Juggalo meet. He's going to cemeteries to see dead people.
I mean, this guy is on the move.

Speaker 1 Which is weird because I thought he was saving up for a wedding. Wasn't the whole thing like he has to save money? That's what everybody says, but yet he continues to travel and

Speaker 1 do all these things.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think his wedding might be taking place at a courthouse now.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 The freest of free. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 I'm going to that wedding. You going to go? I'm going to go to that wedding.
How could I miss that? That's going to be the Tell him Steve Dave social event of the season.

Speaker 1 Well, I know some people who aren't going. I'm sick.
Walt's not feeling too well.

Speaker 1 It's only in another eight months.

Speaker 1 Who knows what's going to happen between then and now?

Speaker 2 If I feel better, maybe.

Speaker 1 Not your thing, really. No, it's not.
Those kind of gatherings are not your thing. It's understandable.

Speaker 1 Q.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know

Speaker 1 at times

Speaker 1 I've suggested things for IJ.

Speaker 1 Little bits. I used to suggest them to Casey.
He never bit. He never liked any of them.

Speaker 1 I think I found a new one that's fail safe, though. Okay.
Now,

Speaker 1 it does run a risk of death, which

Speaker 1 isn't good for the show, but I just read this article. Boy 15 dies after co-workers insert high-pressure hose up his rectum in horrific, quote-unquote, prank.

Speaker 1 We had a bit where

Speaker 2 we put

Speaker 1 something inside of Murray

Speaker 1 and he had to give a talk while it was vibrating and whatnot. And I, you know, to pull back the curtain a little bit, you know, we have faith in each other, right? Like, we, we,

Speaker 1 we will go along with things that we don't necessarily see. And that one, I was just like, I don't get this one.
Like, I don't, I think this one's weird.

Speaker 1 I find there's a couple of them in there that I'm like, I don't know about this one.

Speaker 1 Like, looking back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. That was one of them that I was like, I don't know about this one.

Speaker 1 But I, but, you know, you get to that place where you're like, all right, I guess like, let's let's try it, you know, let's see how it goes.

Speaker 1 And it's, it came out funny, so I guess I definitely was wrong about that. This one, I might have to put my foot down on and be like, I don't think we should blow up his anus like a balloon.

Speaker 1 Usually, yeah, it usually means that you have to hold the person down and they're unwilling to get this because it's not the first time it's happened.

Speaker 1 In 2017, a 17-year-old car wash worker died after colleagues blasted a high-pressure air hose up his his anus, causing his intestines to explode.

Speaker 1 People who did that got convicted of raping and killing the boy and sentenced to more than 12 years in prison. But, like, what?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Like, I was, you know, I was 17 at one time.
Walt, you were 17. Do you ever think of jamming a high-pressure hose up your friend's ass and just letting the water flow?

Speaker 1 I can't say that it ever crossed my mind.

Speaker 2 I didn't have access to any high-pressure hoses, though. So possibly if I did, I might have been like,

Speaker 1 I got a good idea.

Speaker 1 Who would have been your target? Hartsgrove, the guy with the crutches?

Speaker 2 You know, maybe. I mean, like, if I was defending them, if I was their lawyer, the guys who did this, I would be like, well, my clients didn't know the damage it would do.

Speaker 2 You know, they're not experts. They don't know what kind of pressure.
They thought this was going to be like maybe the pressure of a water pick.

Speaker 1 they didn't think it would explode his intestines.

Speaker 2 It's uh

Speaker 2 I can't imagine that they uh they thought that would be the outcome, though, right? They thought it was just gonna be like a horror, like you know, like a college prank, man.

Speaker 1 Like, you know,

Speaker 2 remember how when we were young, man, remember they used to put pickles in kids' butts and make them walk, make them walk, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, so I heard anyway, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, that was that was the initiation queue. Do you remember that? The uh, the pickle walk?

Speaker 1 Uh, I remember it. Kevin put it in one of his movies.
It's the only time I've ever really heard about it. You guys, that was true? We talked about that? That was true.

Speaker 1 Well, it was, yeah, I mean, I never witnessed it firsthand, but yes, it was initiation into high school where you would put a pickle in your ass and you would walk a certain distance.

Speaker 1 And if the pickle fell out, you had to take a bite and put it back in.

Speaker 1 I went to an all-boys school and we didn't have anything nearly that gay.

Speaker 1 Well, you know,

Speaker 1 go ahead like why do you want to bend someone over and put things up their ass unless there's a sexual element to it i was thinking the same thing about these high-pressure hose things it's like to take your friend to rip his pants off because they were holding him down tear his pants off tear off his underwear spread his ass cheeks get that hose in there it's all very gay yeah

Speaker 2 yeah but you know

Speaker 2 if you recall i mean rapian gay it's like it's a it's a it's a terrible meeting if you recall though i've never eaten a pickle, so it was going to be like a double whammy for me if I had ever gotten caught by the older kids.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I would always have a banana on me to see if they would let me swap out the banana for a pickle.

Speaker 1 Can you even get a banana up your ass or is it too much?

Speaker 2 Well, no, no, I don't think it went in like you're thinking. I think you just had to hold it

Speaker 2 between your cheeks. I don't think they actually worried so much about how far it went up or anything.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it wasn't as weird as you're making it out to be or Brian's making it out to be. It was just kind of

Speaker 1 not that weird.

Speaker 1 I mean, it is less weird knowing that they're not inserting.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, so it was just like a butt cheek hold. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's, I see.

Speaker 2 Changes it, doesn't it? A little bit now?

Speaker 1 It does change it a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's not great, and I still wouldn't take part in it, but at least it's not like, well, that person's going to murder someone one day because they're so fucking mentally deranged that they're shoving pickles up buttholes.

Speaker 1 Did you have what you went to all boys' school? Was there any initiations that you recall?

Speaker 1 Nah,

Speaker 1 we were pretty. It was like maybe it's something to do with girls in the school building, but for the most part, I mean, there was some

Speaker 1 typical high school bullying, like just normal shit, I guess, that goes. There's a hierarchy, I should say, for sure.
But for the most part,

Speaker 1 everybody just kind of like was cool. Like the absence of women, I always thought was like

Speaker 1 very

Speaker 1 helpful because it was like, let's just fuck, everybody's just chilling out, having a good time for the most part.

Speaker 2 So you think the addition of women, some guys will be like, you know what? I know I can press Susie. Let's go grab that guy and stick a pickle in his ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do. Really?

Speaker 2 You think, and girls will be like, oh my God,

Speaker 2 look at Chad over there.

Speaker 1 Well, I love him. Put it this way.
He's so cute.

Speaker 2 And look at the way he shoved that pickle up, that dorks anus.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I don't think it'll get that detailed. I'll just be out this weekend.

Speaker 1 But I do think, like, there's a definite line in the sand between the people with the pickle in their ass and the people without the pickle in their ass. Oh, yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And the girls don't want to date the guys with the pickles in their ass.

Speaker 2 No, that's hard to, it's hard to like forget about that image if you're, if you're going to the drive-in movie and

Speaker 1 he kind of does the stretch to kind of like yawn to puts his arm over the whole time you're thinking like, where does that hand, that hand actually took a pickle out of his own ass in front of the whole school?

Speaker 1 Do you want to kiss a guy who fucking has a shitty pickle, like who ate a shitty pickle?

Speaker 1 So I do think like there is an element of

Speaker 1 control and dominance in that situation. Oh, oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2 You know, to this day,

Speaker 2 whenever I hear anybody talk about pickleball, it kind of makes me, I always think of like the pickle in the ass.

Speaker 2 Every single time I hear the word pickleball, I'm like, that's what we should have called it back in the 70s.

Speaker 1 Pickleball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think that's it.

Speaker 1 That's why I think we didn't have stuff like that.

Speaker 1 I used to see fights

Speaker 1 get resolved. Like, they'd be like, we're meeting at the fucking smokestack of the train station at 2.30.
We're going to fight, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 And, like, there would be a big crowd and stuff like that. And then, like, they would talk it out.
I've seen it get talked out and resolved, you know? Like, somebody,

Speaker 1 I don't know if that happens if there are girls watching. Yeah.
Negotiations. Yeah, because they could have put down their guard.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Correct. Yeah.
Whereas with guys, somebody in the crowd would be like, come on, what are you? You're fucking twice the size of this guy. I remember saying that to,

Speaker 1 and then it's, it's,

Speaker 1 oh, well, he fucking did this. And then it talked.

Speaker 1 I mean, I saw plenty of fights, but I've never seen a movie where a fight gets resolved by chatting in the middle of a bunch of screaming teenagers, but I saw it in real life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very rarely is that the trope in movies. Right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Somebody sticks up for somebody, and then a discussion ensued.

Speaker 1 It's like how back in the day they used to do duels with, you know, Flint and Musket. You know, they would fire the 10 paces and then turn around and shoot.
They would bring a second, right?

Speaker 1 Because before they actually shot each other, the seconds would go to the side and be like, hey, man, do we really got to do this shit?

Speaker 1 Or can we fucking just, you know, so it was kind of like that in a way, you know?

Speaker 1 It's like, look, if I have to shoot you, I will, but why don't we have our boys go over there and talk it out a little bit first? Right.

Speaker 1 If there's a beautiful woman there with a parasol, you know what I mean, and a beautiful frilly dress, and she's watching.

Speaker 1 One of those guys is like, I'm going to fucking show this girl that I can kill.

Speaker 2 Now, do you think girls back in high school were, I don't say the word impressed, but were they,

Speaker 2 were they,

Speaker 2 was that a way to court a girl? Was like, okay, I'm going to beat this guy up.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I have no experience with high school girls.
I'll bet you there were certain girls that were like, oh, all right. He's like a tough alpha male.
He kicks ass. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But usually the guy that kicks ass was a jerk off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I remember that the one fight I got into in high school that in my senior year, it was over a girl. and

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 did pretty well in the fight.

Speaker 1 And the girl

Speaker 2 went and stayed with the guy who,

Speaker 2 you know,

Speaker 2 that kind of took it on the chin. I didn't get the girl.

Speaker 1 That's not a trope.

Speaker 2 She actually attacked me during the fight.

Speaker 1 I'm not kidding around. She jumped on my back.

Speaker 1 In the middle of the fight, she jumped on my back and

Speaker 2 took her fingers and gouged them into my ear and ripped out all the, like, took a big chunk of the inside of my ear

Speaker 2 with her long fingernail.

Speaker 1 What the fuck was this fight about?

Speaker 2 I was in gym. We were in my senior year, and we had co-head gym class.

Speaker 2 And this girl,

Speaker 2 we were doing gymnastics. It was gymnastic week.
So they had all the equipment out, the horse, the rings, the parallel bars.

Speaker 2 And we all had to do like a different, you had to go check off your little piece of paper, what, how many

Speaker 2 things you did on the horse or whatever. And so it was me and this other guy and this girl came over and she was definitely flirting.

Speaker 2 And her boyfriend took notice of it.

Speaker 2 And then later on at the later on that afternoon at the at the basketball court,

Speaker 2 he was like, he wanted a, he wanted a piece of retribution.

Speaker 1 But you hadn't really done anything. Well, I mean, I, I mean,

Speaker 2 I guess so. I guess, I mean, yeah, but

Speaker 2 it was at the end of the day, though,

Speaker 2 it was a pretty bad fight. But they actually did get married.

Speaker 2 Actually, I heard he died. He's dead now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 Looks like you won in the end, my friend. Yeah, long term.
Maybe in the short term,

Speaker 1 your ear got gouged a little bit.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'd heard that

Speaker 2 the fallout of that fight was a lifetime of issues

Speaker 1 with

Speaker 2 breathing issues for that guy. Really? Because he had nose was broken so bad that

Speaker 2 it was a lifetime of problems with his nasals passages and everything.

Speaker 1 You broke his nose that bad?

Speaker 2 It was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 And this is the first time we're hearing about this?

Speaker 1 Pugilist.

Speaker 1 Are we playing one true three right now? No, Australia. It happened.

Speaker 2 It was in front of a whole bunch of people. I told this story because it really shocked me because there's like about 50 people there at the best ball court.
And I'd say

Speaker 2 45 of those people were like, kick his ass, kick his ass. And they were talking to the other guy.

Speaker 2 They wanted me to get fucking beat up.

Speaker 1 I had like three people there who were rooting for me.

Speaker 1 It really showed, it really kind of showed their cards. And I was just like,

Speaker 1 wait a second.

Speaker 1 Wow. And she jumped on your back, huh?

Speaker 2 Yeah, she came out of nowhere. I guess she heard that we were fighting and she came over.

Speaker 2 I remember she was like, she let out a banshee cry, like not even a real words, just like this guttural scream and jumped on my back.

Speaker 2 I was exhausted at that point, too. I was exhausted because I'd like the adrenaline kind of had worn off.
And so

Speaker 2 I was kind of crashing a little bit. And she jumped on my back.

Speaker 2 I didn't do anything I just let her just rip rip the like the skin right out of my ear Jesus man yeah I didn't even throw her off and nobody did the crowd didn't instantly turn on the other guy for having his his girl come and fight nope I mean at a certain point he was he was very

Speaker 2 he was pretty messed up and he turned to one guy and he was like he goes he goes uh should I

Speaker 2 he looked at one of the guys I was like what should he do and he was like You know, like, and uh, he was like, No, you got, he goes, you got to keep going. He goes, You could still take him,

Speaker 2 and uh, it was, yeah, it was bad, but then the girlfriend, like I said, and then they got they like it, like in the movies, yeah, I would have got the girl, but it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 This is more like The Last American Virgin. You ever see that movie, Q?

Speaker 1 I don't remember it. No, yeah, at the end, he doesn't get the girl, and you're just like, What the fuck? Like,

Speaker 1 watch The Last American Virgin if you have the chance. It's one of the high school movie, but so depressing.
Holy shit. Yeah, it's awful.
It's awful.

Speaker 1 Sounds up my alley today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're in the mood to stew.

Speaker 2 And like that, to me, I'll never forget, though. It was more, not the physical toll, it was the emotional toll of being like, holy shit, a lot of people don't like me.

Speaker 1 It could have been though, but think about it this way, because you weren't like

Speaker 1 you in high school, you weren't like, hey, everybody, look at me.

Speaker 1 You know, you were like, you were more of a behind the scenes, like, you know, in the background kind of guy.

Speaker 1 So, like, maybe this, like, you didn't have that many friends, whereas maybe this guy was just more popular. Yeah, you know, absolutely.
It's not like they didn't like you, it's just they liked him.

Speaker 2 Oh, well, that's a, it's a, that's a nice way, and I appreciate you putting that half-glass full way of looking at it. But at the end of the day, it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 Like, the whole town was like rooting against me.

Speaker 1 It felt like pitchforks and torches.

Speaker 1 But it sounds like you won the fight, though.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would. I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 And I like it was, it was, like, I definitely took my own lumps out of that, too, though. I mean, he

Speaker 2 had come up to me, and I didn't even see it.

Speaker 2 I was like playing basketball, and he hit me, and I didn't even feel it because all I saw was he was in front of me, and then all I saw was like a light blue color.

Speaker 2 And I didn't realize it for a second until I was like, Holy shit, I'm looking up at the sky. I didn't even know I had not even realized that I had gotten hit and I was on the ground.

Speaker 2 Wow, because he caught me on the chin, and uh, I did not even, I could not figure out what it was I was seeing. I was like, What the fuck happened?

Speaker 2 Because all I'm seeing is blue, and it was the blood, it was the clear blue sky that I was seeing.

Speaker 2 And then I had uh, like he, I also had really fucked up my shoulder, and I never got it looked at. And I also had for

Speaker 2 years and years and years and years

Speaker 2 shoulder issues. If I was playing a sport or something and the ball went a certain way, it could knock my shoulder out and be fucking so painful.

Speaker 2 I never really

Speaker 2 got it taken care of.

Speaker 1 It was all because, yeah, it was all because

Speaker 2 from that one fucking afternoon, man, girls, man, like you said, if we were in all boys school, it probably never would have happened.

Speaker 1 Well, it definitely wouldn't happen because

Speaker 1 you want to be flirting with some dude

Speaker 1 by the palm horse.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 if I'm not mistaken, didn't she go by the name Bubba the Hutt?

Speaker 2 She did when she first, but remember she lost about

Speaker 1 self-applied that?

Speaker 2 She slimmed down about her senior, like her junior year, though.

Speaker 1 She looked fine. Yeah, she looked fine.
She had a sister, too.

Speaker 1 I think her sister died.

Speaker 1 As a matter of fact, I think she died as well. Very good.
I'm forgetting his activity.

Speaker 2 So her husband and her sister died?

Speaker 1 What's that? Her husband and her sister died. Yeah.
After assaulting Walt. Yep.
That's what you get. And if I was a detective,

Speaker 2 I never saw, you know, I never saw that guy ever again after that. Really? He never, yeah, he never attended.
He never attended school after that. That was our senior year.

Speaker 2 He never came back to school. It was late in the school year.
He didn't come back, and I never saw him again.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, man.

Speaker 2 Never once ever came into, was ever in a room with him or saw him on the street. Nothing.

Speaker 1 Did you face any repercussions from the school or from parents?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. I remember the next day, I had,

Speaker 2 I, I, I definitely was like, I got to go to school, even though my shoulder was really fucked up.

Speaker 2 I was like, I, I was like, if I don't go to school, people are going to think something like, it's almost like a sign of like something, like I lost or something.

Speaker 2 So it was like, I was going to drag myself to school no matter what happened. I had a big lip.
I had my shoulder. I couldn't get my shirt on without my mom helping me because I couldn't raise my arm.

Speaker 2 And I remember that I got there.

Speaker 2 And as soon as I got there I got called to the office because they had heard about it and they were like if you will be expelled and you won't graduate if anything happens if there's any more fallout to this which is weird because didn't it take place at Miller Park yeah it didn't take place on school grounds yeah so what the fuck like what like how do they extend their authority to after school at a park

Speaker 2 I think that they were trying to nip it in the bud.

Speaker 2 There was nothing I could have did.

Speaker 2 I couldn't raise my arm to throw another punch though, because I had separated my shoulder, I think, at that point. So I just was like, sure, I'm not going to do anything anyway.
I can't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but did you say to them, like, look, if this guy hadn't come on over and started the fight, none of this would have happened.

Speaker 2 I probably did explain myself.

Speaker 2 But the guy was like, look, I'm just telling you, if anything happens, we'll expel you and you won't graduate. I was so close to not graduating anyway.
Graduated with like one extra credit, I think.

Speaker 1 Jesus. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I know that I only got that credit because the cooking teacher took pity on me. I didn't deserve to graduate my senior year.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would argue that you did.

Speaker 2 She took pity on me and like gave me a passing grade just so I didn't stay back.

Speaker 2 She actually told me that she said it would be detrimental to you if you stayed back because if I, you know, if I, if you failed my class, I would feel like

Speaker 2 it would put you behind the eight ball going forward. So she, she just passed me with, and I didn't deserve the passing grade.

Speaker 1 Now, if you stayed back, do you think you would have gone back for an extra year or would you have been like, fuck it?

Speaker 2 Go to summer school? Yeah. I probably wouldn't have gone to summer school.

Speaker 2 I had gone to summer school the year before that because I knew they told me it's like, you're not going to have enough credits if you don't go to summer school in your junior year.

Speaker 1 Where's your summer school? Mine was all

Speaker 1 Red Bank. Okay, yeah.
So that's like a

Speaker 1 50-minute drive. Mine was all the way up in Holmedale.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't have a license, so it was like getting to summer school every day was a fucking

Speaker 2 hellish endeavor. And then getting home, I had to walk so far.

Speaker 2 Like, I had to walk like three miles to get the bus, like, to get the borough bus to the Highlands.

Speaker 2 It was like, fucking, so what's that Charles, not Charles Dickens?

Speaker 2 What's one of those, like, you know, or Sarma? Like, what's that, what's that author?

Speaker 1 You know, I'll forget it.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Walt Flanagan boxing it out over a woman.

Speaker 1 It's crazy that you hurt the kid so much he never came back to school. That's pretty wild.

Speaker 2 But, you know, there was only like a month left, though.

Speaker 1 Still, a month is a long time.

Speaker 2 I think he had, it was some pretty bad

Speaker 2 bone issues in the face.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That's fucking hardcore, man.

Speaker 1 At least he can look back, even though he had nasal issues and even though he died early, he can look back and be like, you know, because there's so many people who fight over girls and then like nothing comes of it.

Speaker 1 And like, he actually got the girl, stayed with the girl. So maybe he was like, ah, well, it was worth it.
I mean,

Speaker 1 maybe not. He's like, you know, she would have stayed with me anyway, probably.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she probably was going to stay with him. I mean, absolutely, she would have stayed with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I don't even think she was even like,

Speaker 2 she was just kind of goofing around. It wasn't like she was

Speaker 1 like grabbing your child. No, not at all.

Speaker 2 Just just kind of making jokes and shit like doing corny shit right oof

Speaker 1 god how much would it suck to get into a fight today

Speaker 1 oh i would hate it oh i would be winded in two seconds

Speaker 1 i wouldn't want to have my i wouldn't want like a like somebody like a walt flanagan comes along and breaks my nose like on that level yeah oh god

Speaker 1 And like even like hurting someone else at this point, I don't want to do. You know what I mean? You're just like, I don't want to break anybody else's nose either.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if they put you in a position where you gotta,

Speaker 1 like that guy in the car that slapped you in the face, you can't just let that slide.

Speaker 1 If somebody slapped me in the face today, I probably wouldn't let it slide. Yeah, I don't think enough of the old cue's gone that I would just be like, good day, sir, and walk out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I probably would go a little ballistic, but I do think it would take a lot to get me there. Like, I think if I woke up and there was someone in my house,

Speaker 1 I could kill them.

Speaker 1 I do think I could do that. I could be like, just fucking, sorry, bro.
You're in the wrong guy, wrong house. Right.
You know? But

Speaker 1 like slights on the street and

Speaker 1 shit like that, I don't know. I'm like, I don't give a fuck anymore.

Speaker 1 But somebody's slapping me. Wow.
That would be rough.

Speaker 1 Because it is a real, like, it's not, like, a punch is something different than a slap. Slap's almost like, I'm not even taking you seriously.
I'm gonna bitch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It'd probably just be so shocking, you know what I mean? That you'd be, that you'd

Speaker 1 more than anything.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
Wow, that's a fucking good one. Well, let's hope I never find out.
Right.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get into a fight. I'd hit the ground.
So now, you remember how, like, you'd get in a fight at a kid and you'd hit the ground and just keep rabbiting punches and stuff.

Speaker 1 Right, yeah, like, nothing's connecting.

Speaker 1 I'd hit the ground, my shoulder would turn to dust. I'd be like, ow, wow!

Speaker 1 Parlay! parlay.

Speaker 1 I watch a series of podcasts where like they all like fight with each other and all like, we'll watch each other's videos and make fun of each other and that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 And they're always like, I'll fight you. And these are all like, I'm talking like 55 to 60 year old men.
Like, I want to see you in a boxing ring.

Speaker 1 It's like, do you know how much skill it takes to box?

Speaker 1 Like, you can't just step into it. Yeah, stamina, skills, footwork, all that shit.

Speaker 1 Like, to just be like, with no training at all to be like 55 to 60 and be like, oh, to get a boxing ring and kick some ass. It's like, you're fucking crazy.

Speaker 2 Well, if you're, if your opponent is also that age and has as much experience as you, I can imagine it's not

Speaker 2 that crazy. You could probably do it, but I think you underestimate how tired you'll be

Speaker 1 within within a minute. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

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Speaker 2 Is that officially over?

Speaker 1 It's officially over.

Speaker 2 Did you hear about...

Speaker 2 This is the craziest story that has definitely been

Speaker 2 squashed about the basketball players who got caught shaving points.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I read about that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It is nuts how that has not become like the biggest scandal in the country.

Speaker 1 Wait, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Say that one more time, Walt. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Professional basketball players have been caught

Speaker 2 shaving points.

Speaker 2 Professional baseball players have done it now.

Speaker 2 And it has kind of like been swept under the rug and suppressed. And it is shocking how then it shows you the power of these professional sports leagues.

Speaker 1 They are

Speaker 2 basically, I think, telling networks not to even talk about it. Like they talked about it initially, and then it just kind of went away.

Speaker 1 It was big for like a day.

Speaker 2 You talked about zillions of dollars. Now,

Speaker 2 in play that could have been.

Speaker 1 People lost their audience. I would have won.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I lost money that I would have won. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is fucked up how, like, you see the powers that be with the stories they want you to hear about and the stories they want you that, you know, that

Speaker 2 go the way of the dodo bird. Like, they don't even talk about it anymore.
It is absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 It's really strange because, like, that happened in the, I believe, in the 50s. That's when the first point shaving happened, and it was like a national scandal.

Speaker 1 But, like, now they're just like, like you say, sweeping it under the rug. Like, it's nothing.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, it's eventually going to happen. I mean, there's no way it isn't happening in the NFL, too, though.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 There's just too many weird shit that goes on. That

Speaker 2 if anybody is shocked that it's eventually going to come out, that the NFL is up to some players or some refs or up to some shaky shit.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 you have to be

Speaker 2 waiting in line to buy a bridge somewhere if you're shocked about that.

Speaker 1 Waiting in line. You're not even.

Speaker 1 This is going to be good.

Speaker 2 I hope there's still a bridge when I get up there.

Speaker 1 I hope they don't sell out.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing that's wrong with everything these days. The reason that happened is because the league's gotten business with the like sport.

Speaker 1 They should have never allowed sports betting to get involved with professional sports. It just they shouldn't let the players do it.

Speaker 1 The second something becomes. Yeah, but they do, though, because

Speaker 1 they do, because they have all you could bet on your fucking phone now. And you have athletes doing commercials for betting, for betting ads.

Speaker 2 Right, but apparently, you know, you're not allowed to bet if you're a professional athlete on anything.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Like, not even like not even sports-related, non-related stuff.

Speaker 2 Even other leagues, I don't think you're allowed to bet if you're a professional athlete. There's the rules and the NFL and everything.
Players have gotten in trouble just for betting on

Speaker 2 other sports.

Speaker 1 But they're still in the game. It's not like with P.
Rose, where they're like, get the done out.

Speaker 1 Right. So that's like

Speaker 1 giving me a speeding ticket for going 30 miles per hour in a 25 zone. I'm like, oh, I got that slap on the wrist.
All right. Thanks, officer.
Like, if they're like, guess what?

Speaker 1 You go five miles per hour with the speed limit, you're losing your fucking Wrangler, you're using license, you'll see me going 24 miles per hour the entire time.

Speaker 1 And, you know, this, the corporate, the corporations getting, look, is there any doubt that it ruined fucking anytime big business gets involved in anything, it fucking kind of ruins it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've never really bet on any kind of these fan duel sites or wherever.

Speaker 1 You do on price picks.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't really know what that fucking service even offers.

Speaker 1 It seems like fantasy sports, kind of.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 there's one thing that I have discovered watching football for as long as I have.

Speaker 2 You cannot

Speaker 2 figure it out.

Speaker 1 One week from the next,

Speaker 2 teams look like world beaters, and the next week they look like they couldn't beat a high school team. And that's why you can never get a handle on shit

Speaker 2 because it's so, it fluctuates so wildly.

Speaker 2 And now you throw in the aspect of like,

Speaker 2 I mean, there was a guy they showed, a guy who got caught in baseball. You could bet on his pitch if his pitch is going to be a ball or strike.

Speaker 2 And so he let everybody know in this little circle, like, hey, I'm going to throw a pitch, I'm going to throw a ball.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you should see the ball he throws. It's like over the catcher's head.

Speaker 2 It's like these are the things that the FBI is

Speaker 2 accumulating, I guess, when they finally bring him to court. But they've been charged with this, you know, innocent till proven guilty, but

Speaker 2 I don't think the FBI brings these and announces these things if they don't have airtight

Speaker 1 cases.

Speaker 2 Solid because, yeah,

Speaker 2 I'm sure that they are pretty confident. Once they start naming names,

Speaker 2 and because you're fucking put the scarlet letter on every coach and player who's caught up in this scandal will never be looked at the same,

Speaker 2 even if they're found innocent. Yeah, they'll be under the suspicion forever.

Speaker 1 Well, didn't something like that kind of happen to Otani?

Speaker 2 Who's Otani?

Speaker 1 He's the pitcher

Speaker 1 in LA.

Speaker 2 What happened?

Speaker 1 Didn't his trainer, my

Speaker 1 I don't know if I'm wrong about it. Didn't his trainer was found putting bets on him? I thought we talked about it.
I thought you were the one who told me about this.

Speaker 2 It's possible, yeah. You know, I mean, there's so much sports and gambling stories.
I don't know. I don't know if I don't remember that, but you could be right, though.

Speaker 1 Well, honestly, if I heard it, I heard it from you. And if I'm getting the facts wrong a year later, then that's more likely, too.

Speaker 1 I thought you would know.

Speaker 2 I don't follow baseball that closely, but yeah, there may have been a scandal involving that guy. I mean,

Speaker 1 I thought there was. His translator was...

Speaker 1 Yeah, it says that his former interpreter, and I'm not going to try to pronounce the name, was sentenced to nearly five years in prison for stealing almost $17 million from the baseball player to pay off gambling debts.

Speaker 1 Separately, in a new lawsuit filed in August 2025, Otani and his agent are accused of sabotaging a luxury real estate deal in Hawaii, though the details are still developing.

Speaker 2 Because if you could bet on a player just to throw a ball,

Speaker 2 you know, and all that player has to do is just not throw a strike.

Speaker 1 Right. How? Pretty easy.

Speaker 1 Pretty hard to prove.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It says here, the background of it is the scandal broke in March 2024 when reports emerged about large wire transfers from Otani's accounts to an illegal bookmaker.

Speaker 1 Otani stated that he was unaware of the transfers, but the initial story was that the money was for his interpreter's debts.

Speaker 1 17 million?

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ. How much money is this fucking guy making that you can steal 17 million and it's not noticed? And how does the interpreter have access to his accounts?

Speaker 2 He might be the first billion-dollar baseball player. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how much they pay him? Oh, yeah. Oh, he's that good, huh?

Speaker 2 He's like the babe ruth, the modern-day Babe Ruth. Yeah.
He pitches. He hits home runs.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 2 I think, yeah, the amount of money, whatever they're paying him, they say, is such a, even that is like such a bargain because of all the money he generates worldwide and expect like in his own country with his merchandise and his jerseys and shit right

Speaker 1 yeah they could pay him a billion and still make money and profit off of him oh my god yeah playing baseball yeah

Speaker 1 child's game yeah game kids are like pick up and they're like hey let's do this we got nine people yeah billion dollars

Speaker 1 should have played more baseball when i was young i didn't waltz i also didn't learn from you

Speaker 1 i did take a page out of your book. I should take more pages out of Walt Flanagan's book, I think.

Speaker 1 You leave my book alone. Leave my book alone.
No, no, no. Let me just.
Just take my pages.

Speaker 1 Just a page or two. Just a page or two.

Speaker 2 I know you'll rip them out and you still won't even read them.

Speaker 1 I'll get halfway through. I'll be like, wait, what's that?

Speaker 1 This paper would roll a good joint.

Speaker 1 Went to the doctor,

Speaker 1 urologist. He's like, hey, you got to go get a blood test, you know, regular blood test.
Went to the place. They could hardly get any blood out of me.
They said, you are severely dehydrated. Really?

Speaker 1 Just start drinking water. Lots of it.
That was.

Speaker 2 Were you aware you were drinking water?

Speaker 1 I was aware I wasn't drinking water.

Speaker 2 Now, why would you continue to not drink water then?

Speaker 1 Because I'm an asshole. I don't understand that rationale, though.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's just like, it just.
It just falls like by the wayside. You know what I mean? It's like

Speaker 1 I'll start to do something and then it'll trail off. I'll start to do something and then it'll fall off.
I'll start to write in a journal and then,

Speaker 1 you know, one day I'm just, I don't do it, and then I don't do it for the next week. But like the water thing is just like, you know, it's not easy to drink that much water every day.

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Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I've started for the last four days, I've been drinking 100 ounces of water a day, which is, you know, 28 ounces shy of a gallon.

Speaker 2 Do you feel better?

Speaker 1 I do. Yeah, I do.
I I do feel a little bit better. So I think I don't feel as like

Speaker 1 distracted almost. Like my head is not as foggy as it was, maybe.

Speaker 1 So pissing a lot more, too, for sure. Nice, clear piss.
Oh, yeah. Nice.
Dark yellow urine that I used to have. Oh, that tasty dark yellow.

Speaker 1 And I'm using a water bottle. I can't remember her name because she gave it to me so long ago, but a nice lady sent me a water bottle with

Speaker 1 it has like Bluetooth and shit, so it's like it'll tell you, like,

Speaker 1 if you open it up, it says hello, and then it tells you how much water, like 28% for the day. So, you know, I know that I have to keep drinking.

Speaker 1 That's my life now, Q, monitoring my water intake,

Speaker 1 worrying about this epidural that didn't take, you know, it's

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 no, um,

Speaker 1 that sucks. Now, the

Speaker 2 urologist

Speaker 2 is, I just find this blows my mind. So, the your back problems, your urologist is taking care of that?

Speaker 1 No, no, no. When I went to the urologist, I told him about it because we talk about a lot of stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I was just like, I've never heard that before. That is strange.
It's all like tied, all your issues at your back are tied to your target to my wiener.

Speaker 1 First time in history, medical history, you've seen this, but it's all about your boner.

Speaker 1 It's not the first time that's been seen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I talked to the urologist about lots of stuff, and he said, probably what they're going to do is give you another epidural with a steroid in it.

Speaker 1 And sure enough, when I went back to the orthopedic guy, that's what he said we have to do. So I got that done on December 4th.
It did not work. So we have, I mean, the first part didn't work.

Speaker 1 So the second part, I'm hoping it works because it ain't cheap.

Speaker 2 So you already had epidural and didn't do anything?

Speaker 1 It killed the pain a little bit, but not like totally.

Speaker 1 So every once in a while, like it'll start to hurt, and then I'll get the tingling down to my fingers and that kind of shit.

Speaker 1 And then he's like, well, we'll try it again, but it could be a pinched nerve in your arm. So if it's that case, then we got to use this machine.

Speaker 1 Then he shows me a machine with all these needles in it, and he's like, yeah, it's kind of painful. So I'm really hoping this second epidural works.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 A lot of members of TSD Town are dealing with tingly

Speaker 2 appendages.

Speaker 1 Yeah, get them too. I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 Well, I don't know what I'm going to say it's get them, but I'll just say that I've been talking. Are you tingling?

Speaker 1 Get them?

Speaker 1 Tingling a little bit.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 it's the tingling that, you know, that when you get to a certain age, when things start to tingle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the wrong things.

Speaker 1 The wrong things start to tingle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's not so much tingling anymore down there. It's just, you know.

Speaker 1 Like, even as my doctor, I was like, man, I used to like, what happened? Like, I used to be able to

Speaker 1 think of something. And there I am, not anymore.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can think about it all day.

Speaker 2 It ain't going to move.

Speaker 1 Nope. It ain't going to tingle.
Nope. I'm too old now.

Speaker 1 Think of something else. I ain't going to work anymore.

Speaker 1 I just sit there all day focusing. Tingle, goddamn you, tingle.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've been thinking, you know, and I know we're getting close to the end here, so I'll just put it in your head for food for thought. But I've been thinking, you know, I turned 50 in March.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 the big five O, and I'm like, well,

Speaker 1 it might be time to

Speaker 1 totally throw out my wardrobe and get a more refined,

Speaker 1 older person's

Speaker 1 wardrobe. Like, it might be time for the print tees and the,

Speaker 1 you know, the hoodies to go away.

Speaker 2 Really? Go polyester?

Speaker 1 What's that? Well,

Speaker 2 go a polyester wardrobe?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 no. I mean, I was thinking more like cottons and wools, you know, and like, you know, just quite old, dull.

Speaker 1 You're thinking what you equate with dressing as an older person is like dressing fancier? Like, yeah, a little elevated, a little bit more like... Turtlenecks?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 Maybe a turtleneck. I don't know.
I haven't really gotten into it.

Speaker 1 I'm like, you know, I wear baseball hats so often. I'm like,

Speaker 1 you know, should I be running around in baseball caps when I got the number five in front of my

Speaker 1 age?

Speaker 2 You know what you've stopped wearing and it was your signature look?

Speaker 2 And you probably, I would, I would think, I would suggest going back to this because everybody equates you in this was the flat top, the flat cap.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You just stopped wearing that totally.
I don't know if you're trying to change it up. You don't want to get typecast as that guy, but

Speaker 1 that was a great look. You like that? I should

Speaker 1 have weave that back in. Okay, all right, that's good.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Now, I was watching Boardwalk Empire years ago, and Al Capone was chided for wearing that kind of cap, saying it makes him look like a child. He should wear like, you know, like more of a

Speaker 1 derby. No, not a stovetop, but like, yeah, more of a derby.
Like, could Q pull off a derby all the time?

Speaker 1 Like, going back old school, like in the 30s, you know, when everybody wore that style hat?

Speaker 2 I think, I think it's so out of fashion that it probably would be.

Speaker 1 He'd look like a hipster.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he would kind of look like a D-bag for trying to do it.

Speaker 2 Look at me. Look how ironic I am.
But the flat top,

Speaker 2 that was a very

Speaker 2 New York look for a New York type of guy.

Speaker 2 He looked like a guy who came from the city, and

Speaker 2 it just, I believe, it was the look that most people were introduced to you in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 And the reason I started wearing that so much, though, is because I couldn't wear the baseball caps on TV without getting the rights to the Yankees logo. So I just started wearing that.

Speaker 1 And then when we started making Tell MC Dave hats,

Speaker 1 I kind of shifted over to that, you know, to represent the show on the show. And, you know, we had so many of them.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 You don't think a man in his 50s could pull off like a fedora?

Speaker 2 Like...

Speaker 1 You know, like

Speaker 1 a gentleman's cap? I think if you're going out for the night,

Speaker 1 you're doing something fancy for the night, you could probably do it, but like as a regular.

Speaker 2 Yeah, every day, just running down to

Speaker 2 grab lunch at a delicatestin. Yeah, the fedora may be a little too much.
It may be like, you know, you're trying too hard, got to give off that kind of vibe.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe I'll put some thought. Like I said, I just started the thought to it.

Speaker 1 I mean, look, I have a, when I'm in the pool in the summer, I have a cowboy hat, like a straw, a straw Stetson that I wear to keep the sun off me.

Speaker 1 You know your shit, Q, let me tell you. Yeah, and I'm like, you know, and I never wear that

Speaker 1 and feel like I look like a dickhead. I'm always like, ah, it's my summer Stetson.
I'm getting in the pool. I'm out by the pool.
Keeps the sun off your head and your... Keeps the sun off.

Speaker 1 Maybe Fedora could do the same in everyday wear for me.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Well,

Speaker 1 your face is saying.

Speaker 2 I think he could pull off any hat. I don't think there's a hat he can't pull off.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm just starting to think about it.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 You got a little time. Yeah, you guys, when you guys turn the clock to 50, you guys were in like it's time to elevate my wardrobe a little bit and start dressing like an adult more.

Speaker 1 The only time I feel that way is when I'm at my ideal weight. Otherwise, I'm like, I look like a fucking fat slob anyway.
So like, why try to dress up a fucking,

Speaker 1 you know?

Speaker 2 Every year, I always make the, like, my New Year's resolution is I'm going to wear jeans more and I never do it

Speaker 1 Yeah, why don't you do it?

Speaker 2 I mentioned this before jeans feel like a

Speaker 2 like a denim straitjacket to me

Speaker 1 like you know I got to have my legs to you know not feel restricted and also I feel like Walt Flanagan is a guy who like I don't care what age he turns he's going to be like comfort is primary.

Speaker 2 That's more paramount to me than you know if somebody thinks like I'm not dressed appropriately for my age.

Speaker 1 You should wear a fedora with that sweatout that you have on right now.

Speaker 1 But you know, gene technology has come a long way from like

Speaker 1 turning loose. Yeah, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe you, you know, I'm not saying go Mink Chen crazy, but maybe, maybe, you know, maybe

Speaker 1 more of a stretch gene. Yeah.
But you can't even tell the difference anymore. Yeah, it might work for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I, I, that's why I say I always, I always say I'm going to make the effort to wear jeans

Speaker 2 but inevitably I'm like, by January 3rd, I'm like, fuck it.

Speaker 1 Sweatpants. I get it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shit. It's gotten to the point where if I saw you in jeans, I would be like, oh, that's odd.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you'd think I was going to a funeral or something. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's dressing up for something.

Speaker 1 That man's either going to pan for gold or to a funeral.

Speaker 1 tell him, Steve, Dave

Speaker 1 go, lions.