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on this episode of the commercial break des is next door neighbor is not howard stern we're just making that clear right now howard is howard is not on that side of the island however eli manning is on our side of the canal he doesn't live exactly near us And Anderson Cooper is on our side of the canal Look at Anderson And Susan Lucci is in my village Oh, I like Susan Lucci I know Gen X people love Susan Lucci The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now.

Oh, yeah, cats and kittens. Welcome back to the Commercial Break.
I'm Brian Green. This is the Hertz Demima Holmes.
Kristen Joy of Odley. Best to you, Kristen.
Best to you, Brian. Wow, I'm going to get this right one of these days.
Her name is Odley, not Fodley, in case anybody was wondering. Here on a

TCB infomercial Tuesday

with our second second,

Dez Bishop coming in to join us.

I love me some Dez Bishop.

You know, last time Dez came in,

he said, hey,

call me anytime. I'd be happy to come back on the show

anytime you guys want me to.

And, you know,

as I always am. We thought about it.
Yeah, I thought about it, but then I'm like, he really didn't mean that. Yeah.
He really didn't mean that. My negative Nancy brain always goes to, ah, he's just being nice.
He's just being polite. Because a lot of people have said something very nice like that.
Call me anytime. Happy to come back on the show.
But I'm very nervous to ask them back on. But Des was, I was watching Des' Instagram.
He announced that he's doing yet another podcast. I don't have any podcasts that guy has, but he's doing another podcast called The Bishop Exchange with another comedian from the UK called John Bishop.
John Bishop. Not related.
Not related, even though they look very much alike and they don't talk alike. John has a much thicker accent.
But anyway, the Bishop Exchange now available on any podcast app that we get your podcast. It's really funny.
So I told Des, I said, hey, Des, here's a reason to come in. I felt like it was a good reason to throw some bait out there and see if he really meant what he said.
And he responded right away. He's like, I'd love to.
So he's an island. He'll join us here in a few minutes.
But the big news today, well, a news item today is that the Eagles and the Chiefs will meet themselves in the 355th Super Bowl. And the Eagles celebrating in Philadelphia the only way Philadelphia fans know how by shooting off guns and running into each other with cars.
I it's just insane those those Eagles fans those Philly fans they are no joke you know when the Phillies play the Braves it's always a ruckus time right because the Philadelphia fans are fans like no other and the Braves fans are fans like no other and what I mean by like no other we're like the people in LA we at the seventh inning, we leave at the eighth inning. We show up right before the beer sales stop and we leave right after they do.
That's it. That's how long we stay at our Braves games.
But those Phillies fans are getting rowdy. Rowdy.
Yeah, they are. Shooting guns off in the air.
Some guy shot a gun in the air. I was just watching a video.
He shot a gun in the air. And the girl was like, Ow! My ear.
That's a gun. a gun don't shoot that in the air and he goes i don't give a fuck the phillies won or the eagles won and i'm like you don't give a fuck okay all right that's that's the way it is again so who are we going for the chiefs or the eagles the chiefs i only know this because i watched a brief period of the chiefs game a couple nights ago you did yes i watched the whole, I did.
I watched the whole thing. I was rooting for the Bills, I have to say.
You were rooting for the Bills? Mm-hmm. Why? Yeah.
The anti-Chiefs? Well, I have a good friend. Who lives in Buffalo? Who's from Buffalo, and he has really rallied our friend group.
Don't think I've ever met someone from Buffalo. Oh, yeah.
I went to their wedding up in Buffalo. I've been to Buffalo.
Did you like Buffalo? I liked Buffalo. Buffalo was nice.

It was?

Yeah, it was.

Really?

Uh-huh.

Okay.

All right.

Listen, I have never been myself, so I can't.

I don't want to talk shit about Buffalo.

But I know it's up there that it's called.

It is.

Upstate New York.

The Buffalo Bills are a storied football team.

Yes, very close to the Falls.

Did you go to the Falls?

I did.

What'd you think?

Yeah, loved it.

Yeah?

You think you can make it over in a barrel?

Barrel?

You think you'll make it over in a barrel? You think you'll make it over in a barrel? No, and I can't believe that people did that back in the day. People do it all the time.
No, not still. There was a guy like three years ago went over in the barrel and didn't make it.
They don't allow that unless it's part of it. Well, I don't think they...
Unless it's been allowed. Right.
They don't allow it. Right.
The guy just went. He just did it.
Yeah, but he didn't make it. So there you go.
But the Chiefs won. It was a close game.
It was a good game. It was a good game.
That's what I was watching the very end of it. So now I know from one of the announcers that if the Chiefs win this Super Bowl, they will be the only three-time champs, three-peat champs of the Super Bowl ever.
Listen, that Patrick Mahomes, he's really good at what he does. He's really good at what he does.
He's got swagger, but there's a reason for it. Yeah, their coach is great, too.
And so is that girl that sits up in the stand. What's her name, Taylor Swift? So is that girl.
I didn't see one Taylor Swift sighting, though. But I was kind of watching the game with my head turned.
Okay, I saw it. They showed her up in the box.
Look at you doing – does Jeff like the professional football? Yeah, well, he does all this fantasy stuff, which is over now. At the end of the season, they're over by now.
God bless you. But, yeah, he does – I'm thinking about doing the fantasy team next year myself.
No. Just to get into – yeah.
You're going to go fantasy football on me? I think I'm going to go fantasy football. When you do fantasy football, please explain to me exactly how it works.
I will. Because I was the vice president of marketing for a fantasy football company, and I could not tell you one inch.
I could not tell you one sentence about fantasy football. Not one.
I would go to conferences. I would speak in front of people.
Really? I would market the company. And you had no idea how it works? Had no clue.
Had never played fantasy sports in my life. Didn't start when I worked there.
Never did it afterwards. And I was the vice president of marketing for the fantasy football company.
Wow, you really were getting into your job. Well, you see how well the fantasy football company did.
Currently employed by that fantasy football company. We marketed it right into the ground when you hire the guy so the guy comes to me and he says hey listen i'm starting this company i know a couple of tech geeks and they've built this platform and it's really great and you know it's all the rage and fantasy football it's going to change the world of fantasy football and i was like great great.
And he's like, so I want you to be the marketing guy.

I want you to head the marketing department.

It's a startup company.

And they just gotten funded.

And I said, that's great.

But I got to tell you one thing.

I don't know the first thing about fantasy football, never played it.

And he's like, I don't think that really matters.

I think you could probably market our company as well as anybody else out there.

And I said, okay, well, if you're going to pay me, sure, why not?

And I didn't even ever take the time to get educated about fantasy football.

It was a short-lived job.

Not because I was bad at my job, but because the guy who ran the company was bad at managing

all that money that people gave him.

I'm only not.

Yeah, well, you know, it takes all kinds, Chrissy.

It takes all kinds.

Well, when you get into fantasy football, let me know. But we're not talking about football today.
We're talking about Des Bishop. His brand new podcast, The Bishop Exchange.
He, of course, is on burner phone with his wife, Hannah. And you can catch him, if you're over on the other side of the pond, on tour currently.
In Ireland. Yep.
Desbishop.net. You can check out those dates in the UK and ireland and then he'll be back here stateside in the spring he is one of my favorite comics he is genuinely a nice guy and we are so pleased that he has decided we are so pleased that he was not full of shit and he in fact agreed to come back on a second time so our good friend and we call anybody who comes here twice a good friend, right? So, so far we have two good friends, Reggie Watts and Des Bishop.
Our good friend, Des Bishop, joins us through the magic of telepodcasting as soon as we get back from this break. What do you think, Chrissy? Let's do it.
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Welcome back. Oh, you look good.
Welcome back. Yes.
Thanks for coming back. Thanks for having me.
Thanks. I've actually been wanting to reach out for a long time, but you know, the holidays and all that other stuff.
But I, every time I see a reel, I'm like, I should let, I should let Des know he should come back on the show. And so when you got the new podcast announcement, it was a perfect time to say, let's do this.

Oh, yeah, that's great.

We'll help promote.

I'm always willing and able.

And John, so I'm doing this podcast called The Bishop Exchange

with a comedian called John Bishop.

We've been listening.

Yeah, we've listened.

Oh, right.

Yeah.

Yeah, so we're not related, you know.

But we have had this weird connection through our name

and our friendship for like a really long time. But he really wants, he's huge in the UK.
Uh, and he's, he's bigger than me in Ireland these days too, to be honest with you, but he really wants to like expand his American audience. I was like, well, you're asking, you're asking the wrong guy.
Yes. No, tell him to come on.
Yeah. Ask Chris Rock.
Tell him to come on. We'll help him.
come on We'll help him We'll do an interview with him If he needs a little love Here in the States With some listeners Then just give him our email address Oh I will I will Or both of you can come Oh whatever You know you guys We'll figure it out The congregation The congregation Oh my god You guys really have been listening. Jesus.
Yes.

Embarrassing me.

Well, you put it out there.

We got to listen to it, right?

Have a conversation.

Join the congregation.

Wow.

You guys really did listen.

I can't believe that.

Oh, my God.

Do you think we're going to take an opportunity to listen to those silver-haired foxes on

the RSS feed?

Come on, man.

I know.

It's funny.

It takes a while to figure out exactly what you want to say, though, you know it's hard yeah john and i hardest part yeah i i was just happy to have like a similar age man to bounce off like i love doing the burn if on with hannah but like you know she's got that she's got her sense of humor and i got mine and that's great but it's also nice to have like who's more like you to also have different types of conversations.

Couldn't agree more, yeah.

But I still haven't figured out exactly.

I mean, if I had my way, we would just talk about the 90s.

Yeah, that's us.

That's us.

Yeah, we have to rein it in sometimes.

Yeah, I love that.

The biggest group of listeners, according to Spotify analytics is females uh like 25 to 35 right it's like 80 percent of our spotify audience and this is like a relatively new development we were about 50 50 male female skewing a little bit older like at 30 to 45 but then all of a sudden over the last six months we've turned into like this younger female crowd and a while, I have to remind myself. Yeah, at least the people on Spotify.
I have to remind myself that, you know, Chrissy and I were just saying this. They're not going to remember what totally tubular means.
It's just not going to happen. Yeah, totally.
I have that with Hannah sometimes, but particularly Hannah's fans. She's got a lot of fans in their early 20s.
Yeah. And very rarely, not lately, but sometimes I would open for her if we were in a cool spot.
And I really had to make sure I was doing bits that they got. Yeah.
You face a lot of, I mean, Astrid's not, Astrid doesn't have a million Instagram but you, I see you've, you present a lot of the same challenges that my relationship does. Cause there's similar age gap between me and my wife.
And so it's always like, it's fun to have conversations with my wife and I love talking to her, but sometimes it's nice also to talk to the 46 year old man who also went through some of the same things I went through. And then like, we.
And that's hard. When I say some things to Astrid sometimes, she's like, what are you even...
I wasn't even born. And I'm like, you couldn't learn? Also, she's from another country.
Yeah, she's from another country. When you're from Venezuela.
All right, let's get started. Let's not waste all the good talk here.
Let's get started. I thought we started.
No, no. Well, we can...
Actually, you know what? right we're just going we already started all right des bishop back here with us welcome back welcome back des thank you for for coming on board we really appreciate it we all woke up last week thursday to the on the i i opened up the hollywood reporter huffington post daily beast i saw the big news that Dez is starting his fifth podcast.

It was front page. All over the front page.
Dez is starting

his fifth podcast, The Bishop Exchange

with not his brother, John Bishop.

But I swear, when you

made this announcement, I ran

to Astrid and I go, hey Astrid, did you know that

Dez has a new podcast with his brother?

Because I could, you guys,

not only do you, obviously you're from across the pond, you have the same last name, but you kind of share a little bit of a resemblance, you and John Bishop. A little bit, I think.
Oh, 100%. Like, we could have absolutely just said we were like first cousins from the jump.
And people would have believed it. I do have a brother in comedy, Aiden.
But actually, if you see Aiden next to John, I mean, they're very similar. We're convinced that there's some crossover genetically, but really, it's just a funny coincidence that we're quite alike, you know? Yeah.
But he's from Liverpool. I mean i'm from queens but living in ireland but

anyway we always had this we always had this funny bond over our name and you know we're like we're

like like-minded guys you are you're like-minded you're of the similar age and you're running

around the similar you're playing in the same playground essentially so tell us a little bit

about your boyfriend john because maybe uh maybe the people over on this side of the pond don't

know as much about john as you do yeah so the thing about john bishop is he's one of the biggest

Thank you. Tell us a little bit about your boyfriend, John, because maybe the people over on this side of the pond don't know as much about John as you do.
Yeah. So the thing about John Bishop is he's one of the biggest comedians in the UK.
And when I say that, I think people don't understand the magnitude of it. He is 100% an arena comic.
And the UK, small landmass, but 70 million people, not like a small country. and he's doing these you know these uh these cities all over the uk and he's doing multiple nights in arenas i mean he is a a comparative guy i mean in the 2000s i guess a comparative guy would be like chris rock or bill burr of of the uk uh and also in ireland like he he actually Like he actually, I broke out in Ireland before him, but then he actually, he's huge in Ireland too.
So he's really like Ireland and the UK, one of the biggest comics. But lately he has had an itch to do more stuff in the States.
To come over to the States. Yeah.
and he's been recording stuff in the states and he's really fascinated by uh the challenge to him of like leaving essentially like stardom to yeah anonymity uh which was part of his motivation for starting the pod because he just basically wants to cross over yeah and he wants to have as much stuff out there about who he is. Do you find this is pretty common? We were talking to Russell Howard a couple of weeks ago.
Oh, right. Okay.
Good buddy of mine also. Oh, do you know Russell? He's great.
Yeah. We all go back, actually.
We're all the same vintage. John is older, but only because he started comedy very late.
He didn't start comedy till he was 36 russell and i would have started at like a similar age so like we go back to like playing football soccer at the edinburgh fringe festival me russell howard john bishop daniel kitson john oliver john oliver like all of us oh the flight of the concords like, like Edinburgh 2002, our football and tip rugby matches were like John Oliver, Daniel Kitson, John Bishop, me. Who else? Oh, guys, other guys you wouldn't know, like Josh Whittacombe and Adam Hills.
Elton John. Yeah, just guys that just.
And Russell, like, Russell has been huge in the UK for years. Russell and John are kind of similar in that way, you know? Yeah.
So, you know, Russell, we were talking to him. Two things I found was interesting.
One is that Russell is such a sensation over in the UK, but he also, I think, you know, he's got some following here too in the US. So when I was doing my homework about Russell, I found a website.
The second interesting thing, not only is he trying to make that kind of plant his flag over here. Second interesting thing about Russell is that the UK government, the United Kingdom government has a website tracking the popularity of comics coming from the UK.
So if you yes absolutely and so i'm go ahead i hey sorry i'm the producer i did my research on your research that is incorrect what do you mean it's not a government website it's uk.gov it's just called you gov it's not uk.gov okay great great. So there's a website tracking the popularity of comics over there in the UK.
And I found this to be so extremely interesting because some of the people that were high on this list of comics, I don't know how it gets voted, I'm sure it's just people voting online, is like third call actors from Benny Dorm. The show Benny Dorm were like higher than Russell Howard.
And I was busting his balls. I'm like, yeah, but are you more popular than the show Benny Dorm? And he was like, oh my God, I can't believe this.
There's a website out there. So now I'm going to do my research on John on that same website and I'm going to see just how popular there's a guy.
So is this the popularity of UK acts in the states or just the popularity of UK acts in general popularity of the of anybody that was I guess the the criteria for this particular website was British born comics doing the circuit around the UK so it's really just about British comics and it was just such a funny website And then they had all this information as to who they were popular with. Female, male, what age group they were popular.
It was a really interesting website. And at the time, because it says UKGov, I thought it was an actual UK name.
Yeah, but YouGov is a polling thing, right? Yeah, it's just a polling thing. It's just a polling thing.
So where do you and John record the podcast? Are you guys in the room together? No, only that first one, because he was in New York, and I was in New York. But now I left to Ireland, actually, the next day, and then he went back to the UK the day after.
So we're just recording remote. So we're stuck with the remote stuff for now.
But we'll try to get together when we can. Okay, so the Bishop Exchange is the name of the podcast.
Go check it out. We've listened to the first couple of episodes.
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But he also wanted the other useful nature of the word exchange, because we were just looking for like a bishop name, but he wanted it to be like cross-cultural. Like he wanted that to be part of it.
He wanted that transatlantic bridge. Yes.
I like it. Yeah.
But you know, it can be hard too because like I think it will be harder for us to truly get the Americans to plug in because the British people love chatting about America. Like they love chatting about American politics.
And it's not that Americans don't like chatting about British politics. They just don't know.
We don't know. We don't know.
We're confused. On one side, you're talking about something everyone has an opinion on.
On the other side, it's like, let's educate America about Britain. So we'll see.
We'll see if we can manage to bridge, to make that bridge. That's one of the challenges well i have noticed as a guy who follows your instagram i have noticed that you've been conspicuously absent from the united states for the last couple of months are you have you purposefully fled over there back to ireland no i literally i have actually been in the states until last tuesday so i did not do i i was not one of the only people that said if trump gets elected i'll go because number one i didn't say that and number two nobody ever actually goes except for ellen degeneres who was let's face it she was fleeing like so much stuff you know she's getting hatred she's getting hatred from both sides so that's right anyway uh no i just i had this tour planned for quite a while i'm here i'm here for seven weeks now but no i have been i i have been in the states i just i went into a little bit of a glut of posting just because like i was uh i was touring doing doing doing shows on the road but i just wasn't like recording them yeah it's tough it's a job in itself it is a job in and of itself do you like handle your own instagram i do you need a person yeah you need a person well no it's not so much that it's honestly it's getting them up on instagram isn't my problem the problem is just getting them recorded and like sometimes i'm proactive like i had some shows before christmas where i got you know proactive.
I got some content. But then after Christmas, literally, I was just being a bit lazy with some of my...
What do you guys do for Christmas? I'm fascinated to know this. How do you handle the holidays? Well, hey, number one benefit of having two dead parents is that you don't have any stress about where to go for Christmas.
Fair enough. So it's not a thing.
The main thing is Hannah's half Italian. Her mother's side is Italian.
So they do the Christmas Eve. Yes.
You know, the seven fishes or whatever, which is not actually an Italian thing. It's an Italian-American thing.
Yeah. What the fuck is the seven fishes? Oh, you don? Oh, you don't know about the seven fishes? I think it might even be like a New York thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because they all, I grew up with all these Italians. Seven types of fish.
So seven different fish on Christmas Eve. I think it's seven, right? I think so.
Yeah. Yeah, she's Italian.
She knows. So seven different fishes on Christmas Eve, you just like go and you have...
It's cooked different ways. How do you even find seven different types of fish? What do you mean? You got calamari.
Come on. There's loads of fish.
Yes. Okay.
If we're adding in squid, then okay. All right.
Yeah. Shrimp.
Squid, octopus. Seafood.
Seafood. Seafood.
Okay. Got it.
But anyway, it's, I don't know where, I looked it up. There's no real history.
There's no evidence of any history. Yeah.
It's kind's kind of it's derivative but the thing is that the real history which i think gets um it gets forgotten about a bit that all the ethnic groups in america they have their own culture and those cultures are just as valid you know so just because it doesn't actually come from italy doesn't mean it's not a unique cultural experience. No, of course.
You're having the unique Irish American Christmas. For example, a lot of people don't know this.
Corned beef and cabbage is not a thing in Ireland. No, really? No, it's bacon and cabbage.
It's boiled ham and cabbage is the Irish dish. Somehow it became corned beef and cabbage in America.
I have no idea. That's what they had to work with.

Why?

Yeah.

And now that's the thing.

I was like, corned beef and cabbage?

But like, no.

And I have to tell you something else.

Uh-oh.

Irish Americans don't make cabbage as well as Irish people.

Because I love bacon and cabbage,

but corned beef and cabbage is shy.

My dad made this all the time.

When we were kids, he made corned beef and cabbage. Of Irish descent.
Of Irish descent, living in Chicago. That was the thing.
Corned beef and cabbage everywhere. I fucking hated that dish.
It was disgusting to me. But as an adult, I have had other people's corned beef and cabbage.
It's not bad. Sorry made it like shit yeah um well yeah and my grandmother my grandmother was from ireland like you know like a proper strong irish accent but she did adopt the we used to have corned beef and cabbage in her house uh on thanks on st patrick's day that was like okay that was always a thing but we'd march in the parade and then we'd come home and have corned beef and cabbage in my grandmother's house so is it fucking cold over there i was thinking about this this morning when i realized you were over in over in ireland yeah i know it's colder where you are like we we have um oh no sorry you're in atlanta right actually you had your own oh no it's cold yeah yeah you had some snow there i caught a little bit of that sort of i caught the first little cold wave in the south

because i was in north uh north carolina and south carolina i was in charlotte and uh greenville yeah very disappointing like absolutely freezing yeah yes so so so that was a letdown uh but then i was in minneapolis which was absolute torture when i was leaving but no here honestly irish winters are like cold, but like on the mild side of cold by proper American winter standards. But we did, I did come back the day before one of the worst storms Ireland's had in a long time.
Oh, that's right. I heard on your podcast you were talking about that.
Yeah, Storm Eowyn, they were calling it. Eowyn.
Eowyn. It was a weird, E-O, I'd never seen it was a weird e-o i'd never seen it e-o-w-a-n yeah w-a-n eowen so when you have this storm did it snow in dublin no snow just it was basically at some points of our own basic experience a hurricane yeah we had a show that night and then we thought the warning was going to be later but anyway in the end it was a bit hairy people started leaving at like 10 o'clock i thought oh i'm bombing here but actually people started getting people started getting uh warnings on their phone now that was like that was an hour and 15 minutes into the show so it wasn't an issue but i i i did notice some people walking out but i just wasn't paying any attention i was just like ah they're probably stressed about the storm but then when i got off stage stephen mullen my we got to go, bro.
I think we might have to, maybe we have to get a hotel because I was driving back to Dublin, but we made it back. But it was actually, it was a little hairy.
I actually hydroplaned a little bit twice, but not crazily, but just like enough that like you're like, oh. Yeah.
Yes. Everybody's got that friend who freaks out about the weather, right? The weather, like Chrissy's my friend who does that.
I'm Astrid's friend who does that. The only time that I've been to Dublin, which is just a beautiful city, the only time that I have been to Dublin was the worst snowstorm they had experienced in decades.
Oh, that's right. And the entire city shut down.
It was like a foot of snow. We got the last plane.
We were the last plane to land at the airport before the airport got shut down for three days. And we took taxi.
We were all standing waiting for these brave taxi drivers who were going to drive us into the city and get us to the hotel. That car was moving from lane to lane without any effort whatsoever.
It was just sliding all over the place. The poor driver had no idea how to drive in the snow.
Astrid and I were shitting ourselves in the back of this taxi cab ride and we ended up getting stuck at a hotel everybody people were sleeping on the floor they were trying to feed them and give them water this happened we were this went on for like i don't know four days we were stuck in this hotel ireland doesn't ireland doesn't get a lot of snow so actually they don't they don't deal with it well at all as a dumb american i just made the assumption when we were flying in and i was seeing all these alerts i just made the assumption oh they know what to do with snow it's ireland they know very rare i had no idea i mean we get you get dustings and but like honestly all you need here is an inch and like everything shuts down oh yeah like atlanta it's like atlanta yeah everything no all the way all the way they were talking in the south about the snow coming, because I did have to cancel. What am I talking about? I had to cancel a show in Charlotte because of it.
I ended up doing the Saturday, but they shut it down, even though they ended up really not having any snow that night. Yeah.
But they basically deal with snow the same way in Atlanta, where you are, as they do in Ireland. There's no difference.
Shut it down. Yeah, shut it down.
And the only thing that was open were the bars, and so that's what we did. We walked to the pool.'s what we did we walked to the it's kind of fun though and it's kind of fun and it's kind of pretty you know it's a pretty city in the snow and you know yeah so let me so i uh on your instagram you're going a little viral right now because you have a hot take uh not to say a hot take it's just a take on uh mr musk's uh wave to the crowd at the inauguration how tell me give me your like just a little dissertation on how you feel about elon musk in general well i mean like there's there's something going on with the guy right because he's a little loony well he's become like insanely obsessed with like the magGA agenda.
And listen, you want to, you know, you like Trump and you like MAGA. I think that's fine.
But I agree. He's the only, I don't, by the way.
I don't agree with the politics. I agree that it's your right to support.
No, no, no. I know.
But I was just, I was just clarifying that because I actually, I got attacked on TikTok. I took, I had like a very like centrist take about just the way the internet works.
I wasn't even really taking a position, but I still got attacked. Of course.
Yes, of course. For having, for not, I actually got attacked for basically like not taking a stand.
Anyway. Elon Musk.
You've taken a stand. We get it all the time i can't you can't win for losing you just can't win so uh but the thing about elon is he's the he's he's the only insanely wealthy billionaire or like like high you know those high high billionaire group that's just like gone all in a lot of them obviously right now they're pandering they're cowtown they're trump yes but he's just like admitted his whole personality he's tweeting all day and there's just something like not quite right and i i'm sorry but like i can't get behind supporting the afd in germany and i think it's all a bit dangerous and whatever right i agree yeah so so the rest of the take is that so all that aside that i was already like what's going on with this guy uh and just like the misinformation that he puts out or just like just like the simplistic whataboutism that's just like so not helping the debate it's just so indicative of the problem you know you're so right and then he, I literally think he was trolling.
I think it's not a safe way to troll. I think it's like really a problematic way to troll because I think he knew what he was doing.
Of course. And I think he just kind of thought it would be hilarious to sort of like do it in a way where he could try to say that he wasn't.
And it was just like, listen, he owns a platform that thrives on this type of conflict. And so for me, it's like, you're one of the smartest guys in the world.
You're incredibly wealthy, incredibly successful. Like it would require the most incredible stupidity to not know that it's just like the one thing that you don't do unless you wanted to or if you really were that dumb to do it stupidly in that way that you wouldn't immediately come out and be like you know i got excited and i'm just not great at like showing love because i didn't come from the hip-hop community or something you know but he didn't even do that which shows me that that he's trolling whether he's and the whole thing is that everyone jumps on you're saying he's a nazi it's like no i i mean i'm not really saying he's a nazi i mean he's showing like fascist tendencies or like he's showing like to be at least slightly enamored with fascism i don't mean fascism like hitler nazis i mean fascism historically okay because there's been many you know pinochet franco you know there's been plenty of a stalin you know and there's across all sort of you know parts of like economic belief systems there has been fascism so i'm not saying oh he's like hitler even though he happened to do the hitler salute but he has been flirting uh with with fascism but i don't think he's really like a nazi but i do think that he was trolling part of me wonders and i agree with you on this i don't think he's a you know i don't think he's a nazi right i don't think that like, I don't believe that about Elon.
I believe that he is trying to be the most retweeted guy that particular day on his own platform. And he's trying to say to other, you know, the other side of the aisle, fuck you, we can do what we want.
We're back in power, you know, take that essentially. And then I can just kind of excuse making it away.
But what concerns me about Elon in general is that he seems to be losing his mind a little bit. He's tweeting hundreds of times per day.
Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, he's at the inauguration.
Clearly, he's done something ketamine X. I'm not sure what it is.
His eyes are rolling in the back of his head. He's swirling around.
So I think this guy is just in his own like his own bubble and there's nothing to pop it and now he has come into power with this movement that has no intention of checking him whatsoever and so i worry that he gets more delusional and the people that that follow him or or encourage this type of like um rabble rousing are then the also the people that are in power so now we're all just kind of losing our minds collectively and there's no way to decipher truth from fiction because everything is excuse make the way and everything is just really you're like you said what about ism defeats all common sense and i am also kind of a centrist and i think I feel like this kind of behavior is super dangerous and i i don't know like i believe in his right to first free speech and all that other shit um but i was saying on the show like there we shouldn't be licking the balls of billionaires we should be helping to keep them in check to make sure that they don't get out of control and wield some intense power over our government the government is now for sale out in the fucking open and elon is the one that's buying it and it drives me up a wall that everyone out there on his own platform is just excuse making this kind of behavior and you know almost like god worshiping him he's really seemed to have lost it down a ketamine hole or something. Yeah, I mean, he definitely has some hero worshiping going on because, you know, you can see by the comments, like some people are just immediately annoyed.
Now, the one, I guess, like slightly, I don't know, what put my mind at ease a little bit is within a couple of days, like a calmer, more honest analysis of what went down came out. But just like the fires in LA, just like all the big stories, the first two days are everybody jockeying for position on the biggest take.
And the biggest takes often rely on just fake news. Yeah, I agree.
Trump's favorite term, but he only cares about fake news related to him. He doesn't care about fake news related to anything else.
But again, I'm not even just singling out Trump there. I'm singling out everybody.
Everybody's using just quick takes that have not been researched. So the first two days of all stories, I find are like not where the information is.
You down like even shane gillis i saw had like a nuanced take on elon he literally said because like you know shane doesn't take actually hard political positions that i yeah i i like shane's take on a lot of things and i could see a lot of the what do they call it there's a word oh the? Yeah, the brosphere. The podcast sphere.
Yeah, that sphere. Yeah.
I think largely was immediately taken the, because they like, there's a trolldom there that they like, which is like, oh, this will irritate all the woke people that Elon did this. But eventually, like, even somebody like Shane Gillis is like, it's hard to defend.
Like, you gotta, like, it's all well and good to be like, what are you talking about? Of course I wasn't given the Nazi salute. But it's like, well then apologize, because he clearly is.
Yeah, absolutely. And then the other thing I want to say is that a lot of Jewish groups came out saying, he's a big supporter of Israel and he's clearly not a Nazi.
And it's like, okay, I'll 100% accept that. However, you're just making the assumption that his target of hate isn't a whole new crop of people.
That's right. Just because he's down with the Jews and Israel doesn't mean that he's not going to other a bunch of people and use the fascist handbook, which is we have an enemy within and we need to destroy it for the purity of our nation.
That's right. Yeah.
Vulnerable people become the enemy of populism, right? And that has always been the case throughout time. That's how you gather power.
That's how you roll in. That's how you get the snowball rolling.
And it's clear's that's what's happening so while i support anybody's right to vote for anybody including trump while i may not like him personally um i support your right to vote for him i absolutely do i get concerned when the entire movement is based on demonizing groups of people and on the other side also by the way it happens on the other side also and i just think that it's a it's like an unhealthy dangerous place to be and elon seems to be the guy with the biggest and i had i had to be in my bonnet old school i had to be in my bonnet i had to be in my bonnet with elon anyway yeah i had to be in my bonnet with elon anyway because he literally i to be in my bonnet with Elon anyway, because he literally, I don't know if people were paying attention, but he was trying to rewrite the history of Hitler, which that actually, that I had a, I had my antenna out for him, to be honest, which is why I had a big reaction to the salute, because he did actually try to say, oh, Hitler was actually a leftist. And he was trying to say that, because it's obviously, you know, socialism is in the Nazi title.
You know, he was trying to use that, like, already, like, it's just so, it's not even that it's debunked. It was just, it was never real trying to argue that, like, Hitler was a socialist.
I mean, his main enemies were communists. And, you know, like, you're looking at the 1930s and trying to compare the way society breaks down today and then trying to make it seem like Hitler aligns with today's left.
Like, not a chance. It was literally rewriting history, trying to sort of like fob Hitler off on the left.
Like, it's insane. A lot of people are trying to do this, Tucker Carlson, and a lot of people are bringing on apologists and saying that, you know, it's, listen, it's, it's such a complicated mess.
And, and, and I agree with your, your point of view. I think Elon is trolling.
And I think Shane is right. If, if it's, if, if you're not, in fact, saluting the Nazis, then do us all a favor and just say, I'm sorry.
Just say, I'm sorry. That's all.
How hard is that? High as shit on ketamine and ayahuasca. And I didn't know what I was doing.
That's that. But let's play.
They've been flirting. Trump flirted with them.
You know, he couldn't come out hard in Charlottesburg. And they'll say, oh, he was misquoted about the both sides.
But he just, he always has a hesitancy to come out hard against the extreme right. i don't need him to come out hard against ben shapiro or even charles kirk for that matter i don't need him to come out hard against them but like people marching you gotta come out strong yeah so this isn't the first time that they've given little little signals oh and can i just add i know please not that political but enrico tario enrico tario gets gets out of prison right and then he's on these interviews in his fred perry like they have a uniform the proud boys they have a uniform and he's in there on his uniform you know and you're just like guys how can you not see that this is like fascist behavior? Of course it is.
Of course it is. And listen, we could go down the line.
You know, this is not that we don't, we typically are not a political podcast, but we say things, I like to say things when I think it's just obviously makes sense pragmatically, that you need to check the far, the extremes on both sides of the the aisle and you need to come out and say like trump i i'm with you i wish he would just check them like just check them because but he knows that they vote and that's the thing is that he is looking to consolidate any vote that he can get anywhere. I said this when Trump was running.

Trump will say anything to anybody, any day or time, left or right, liberal or conservative, if he thinks that's going to get him a vote in the moment because memories are short and people forget and they're willing to overlook as long as he's talking to you for that moment. And that's the truth.
Listen, a lot of politicians have done that throughout time. but what I think makes this different is that there are a bunch of people

around the for that moment and that's the truth and that's listen a lot of politicians have done that throughout time uh but what i think makes this different is that there are a bunch of people around trump who are they're leaning into his worst urges and that allows him to lean into his worst urges and now we're kind of in this shit show and it does look a little fascist to me for for sure now like they're we're laying people off because they're black i mean like you know we have to call in if somebody we think it was a dei hire did you hear that one it's like it's just it's fucking insane to me what's going on we can debate the policies about dei or equal opportunity or all that we can debate that all day long but that debate should happen in the halls of congress or in our city halls or in our own workplaces it there shouldn't be forced like fascism essentially like you have to call your brother or sister out if you think that they've you know been the uh been promoted because of some policy so that we can are they are they doing that yes they are it's gotta look that one up yeah this is insane so um okay so let's move away from politics just for a second because we're uh i can i will go on i could go on all day long and i i don't want to i don't want to lean into my worst impulses so so let me ask you this last time we saw you you were i think if i'm not mistaken you were in the hamptons yeah west hampton yeah and uh a renovation was going on in one of your apartment was it going on in your apartment downtown yeah because that's when we talked to hannah we talked to hannah and then you were like hiding in the hamptons because you guys were doing a renovation or something is that right that's probably some excuse we had for just being in the hamptons we haven't any renovation. Oh, maybe it was a renovation next door.
Maybe it was a renovation next door. It was like the downtown apartment.
Maybe I was saying, I have to go, guys. We're supposed to do a renovation, but we're procrastinating.
But there was probably a reason. Well, actually, because the building's old, so there's always somebody doing work.
So she might have been rushing out because it was about to get loud yeah she was very lovely actually but we had just bought the house in west hampton that that that was uh when i was talking to you we just got that place actually yeah hannah was outside playing or doing tennis oh yeah that's right she was uh so so here's here's my question so do you have a place in ireland also yeah i, I still have the house that I've had since 2005. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.
You guys are like mini real estate moguls. What's going on? Well, I had a place in Dublin and a place in New York, and then we met.
And Hannah's done all right, so she got a place. So anyway, it sounds bad.
Trust me, none of them are fancy. All right.
The West Hampton one is a little fancy. Yeah.
Okay, let's be honest. Yeah.
But that was an up, that was a... Good for you guys.
That was, our family, my family always had like a small little house there. So we upgraded it.
Yeah, we upgraded. Just a little bit.
We upgraded. So it seems fancier than it is in terms of, we didn't start from zero.
Well, Chris, he has three houses across two continents, and we have yet to be invited to either of them, especially not the West Hampton one, which I hear is... I know why he's not inviting us to the West Hampton.
I wouldn't invite me to the West Hamptons either. I keep my shoes on.
Do you enjoy the Hamptons? You've lived there since, I mean, you've been there since, obviously, since you were a child. Is it fun times? Is it good times over there? Yeah, so we're in West Hamptons, so it's really not like the Hamptons that people have in their head.
What's the difference? Well. For those who don't know.
Geographically, it's just the first one. Some people in the Hamptons proper don't consider it the Hamptons.
They say you need to be east of the Shinnecock Canal. Oh.
So you don't get the people that want to be in the Hamptons to be seen. You don't get the sort of aspirational people.
But you do get some fancy people, but there are people that aren't interested in that nonsense of like, we're in the Hamptons. But like, you're at the beach and the village is so cute and it has everything that the Hamptons is supposed to have.
It just, it doesn't have the status hungry people, you know? Yeah, that's nice. So it's quite nice.
By the way, it's also quite a bit cheaper than that part of the Hamptons. So I do want to point out that I'm not just saying it as if to make it seem like we're not fancy.
Like, it's really not the same, you know? Dez's next door neighbor is not Howard Stern. We're just making that clear right now.
Howard is not on that side of the island. Howard's east.
But however, Eli Manning is on our side of the canal. He doesn't live exactly near us but an Anderson Cooper is on our side of the canal.
Look at Anderson. And Susan Lucci is in my village.
Oh, I like Susan Lucci. Gen X people love Susan Lucci.
Exactly. In fact, the dressing room in the west hampton beach performing arts center is called the susan lucci room no it is oh yes yeah and my mother was a big all my children watch of course yeah that's right she was on that show forever and she didn't win for forever and that forever that was the whole thing about susan lucci she never won a daytime Emmy for anything, did she? I think she ended up, finally.
Which is ridiculous. Erica Kane, great character.
Erica Kane. Great character.
Yes. Yes, my stories.
I got to watch my stories. My grandmother used to say that too.
We used to have this lady that worked at the radio station where we worked at and there was a break room. The break room had a TV and this is old this is an older black woman she was probably in her 70s she was like in the accounting department in like clockwork she would sit down at noon or 11 or whatever it was and if you went up there into the break room you would see her watching her stories her stories and she would say don't turn my stories i'm watching my stories i always thought that was that was so cute what do you you're on the road? Go ahead.
It's so funny that you asked me that because I was about to answer that question without you asking. That's crazy.
I have a reason though. Were you going to say, what do I watch when I'm on the road? Yeah.
Well, I'm obsessed with Severance right now. Oh, Severance.
I know. I re-watched the whole first season.
Yeah, but the thing is that I was triggered because you said, and she was in the break room, and my immediate thought wasn't about a break room at work. It was the torture chamber.
Yeah, which they've now changed. Don't know spoilers.
Okay, okay. I won't say a word about the new season, but I have to tell you this.
So we are on the Odyssey Network. That's our podcast network.
So is the Severance Podcast. Podcast, which is really good.
The companion podcast. So I got a chance to do some reads for the Severance Podcast.
The Severance is such a good fucking show. It's so well crafted.
It really is. If you haven't started season two, there's only two episodes.
You will not be disappointed.

I am obsessed with this show.

I know. I'm obsessed with all of the

rumors and

theories. There's a whole wiki.

There's a whole wiki.

I'm deep, deep in it.

Their podcast that you

mentioned has been so

fascinating to me.

Not only did I re-watch the show along with the podcast, which was great. But, but beyond that, beyond the show, you learn a lot about like filmmaking and casting and creativity.
Like you learn so much about like the crafts associated with making a film, you know, like the artists that, that, that make, um, you know, the different things that they use, that the props that they use, like, it's really fascinating to, to, to particularly with Ben Stiller, the detail that goes into creating this world. And, you know, every now and then just, you just get a perfect combination of cast and story and director.
And I think this has the potential. Obviously, plenty of shows have disappointed long term.
Agreed. But currently, it has the potential to go down as one of the great shows of all time, in my opinion.
It's so fascinating. If the first two episodes of season two are, yeah, there's so many moving parts, but they are so beautifully crafted and acted.
And the, like the, the, I don't, I'm not, I'm not gonna talk about it cause you haven't watched it yet, but it is just such a great show. And I think it deserves all of the part that.
I've watched everything, by the way, I meant for the listener, the spoilers for the listener. I won't spoil.
I've watched the latest episode twice already. I know, right? No, I've watched them all twice.
I just finished it this morning. I just finished the second episode this morning.
I'm just in love with that show. The part that's a little bit disappointing to me is that Severance is getting a big marketing push right now.
Yes. But because of kind of the disparate nature of cable and streaming and all this, I don't think Severance has the kind of audience that say a Breaking Bad did or stuff like that.
Sure, a lot of things are fractured. Yeah, so I so encourage everybody to go watch Severance.
I had a friend who was like, oh, I watched Severance but I just didn't understand it. I'm like, you're not supposed to understand.
You're not supposed to understand everything. That's not the point.
I remember watching it for the first time back three years ago, and I was like, whoa, this is depressing. I didn't know what to make of it, but after about the third one was when- The third episode, you got into it? Third, fourth episode was when I was like, whoa, I can't wait to see what happens next.
Then when you start to kind of- Because it's so different. Yes, it takes three eps.
It's so different. But it requires- It's a complicated story, and it requires those first two eps.
But the thing is that even in the first two eps yes there's a lot going on and it's a bit slow and you're trying to figure it out but even within those eps you're just in this insane world that is just fascinating on its own yeah just from it's so visually stimulating yeah and mentally stimulating to try to figure out what's going on. You know in the second episode how the heli is walking through the glass hallway? Yeah.
It is absolutely amazing. That shot is so visually stunning.
It's amazing. I just absolutely loved it.
I love them all. Have you watched the show Say the show say nothing oh yeah you're you're taught this is this is a this is a controversial show is it a con that's i wanted to ask you how it was received how did you it's it's received differently in different communities yeah you know yeah no i have to tell you that i know jerry adams and i i i have interviewed him what yeah so i am i'm gonna go on the record right now and say that it's a bit of a hit job on jerry adams and i'm not saying that some of the things like the troubles was very complicated you're of course say nothing is is about a very complicated time in history.
And there's a lot about... For those of us that don't know, what is it about? Okay, so let me just give you...
We need five episodes, man. Give me your take.
Give me your take first. Here's my take.
As someone who grew up at the end of The Troubles, and as someone who my family watched a lot of the news about the Troubles, but I was not very educated. What is the Troubles? The Troubles is the Irish Protestant Catholic, the UK government against the separatists, the people who wanted independence, the nationalists.
But in the north of Ireland. In the north of Ireland.
Okay, we're hearing about this. So this is specifically, this show follows the history of one woman who was a part of the IRA,

and she became a manager, an executive in the IRA.

And then it becomes also kind of an adjunct story is about a guy named Jerry Adams,

who claimed he was never in the IRA, but then became a politician in the government. And some people thought, well, he's just, he's just a member of the IRA.
And he kept claiming, no, no, no, I'm not. But apparently, or according to this movie, it makes Jerry seem as if he was directing a lot of violence during these troubles that he was

a part of it that he was directing it that he had his hand in it that he and then it and i'm just like we could take five hours to explain this but let me explain one important part in the troubles there were so there was something called the missing which were people that went missing supposedly because they were

informers

for the UK government against the IRA. They were in the IRA, but they were ratting out other IRA members.
They went missing. And some people got caught up that may have been innocent and they went missing.
So, it makes it appear that Jerry Adams directed these people to be missing, quote unquote, right? But he has claimed all along that he had nothing to do with it, not directly. So did I get that right, kind of? Yeah, sort of.
But it's so complicated. But honestly, really, people just need to see it because what happened to Gene McConville is like a real tragedy.
Like there's no, there's no like say nothing what say nothing does well is it shows like just the tragedy of society breaking down into violence and how really nobody is is safe from that and that the morality as we know it in likeetime, gets extremely complicated, right? What Say Nothing does terribly is it kind of suggests that certain injustices, of which there were many throughout Irish history and many throughout the microcosm of Irish history, which is the troubles there were many injustices and in the end like why does one injustice get more attention than another unless there's a political motivation behind it which is in my opinion is dangerous because if you know the history, it's better to watch.

So I'll just give this sort of like take for the end of it. If you know the history, right, ending the Troubles was very complicated and it took a lot of political will to get the peace process over the line to sign the Good Friday Agreement in 1998.
right yes and part of that good friday agreement was the sense of that we all have to accept that

there has been horrible things that have happened throughout the process, and we need to try to find a way forward. And then when they took the case against Jerry Adams over Gene McConville and the missing, because of the Boston tapes, which is its own controversy in itself, but without even getting into the recordings, the fact that they decided to go after him for that specifically was so dangerous.
Cause it's like, Oh, so how come we're not re litigating almost all of the past, except for this one thing. And this guy happens to be the guy that's the head of Sinn Féin and they're getting powerful in the Republic of Ireland because at that time Sinn Féin was really starting to get powerful in the south as well as in the north you know like why is it just we go after him and again I know Jerry Adams but I am no great defender I've never understood why he keeps denying that he's in the IRA I think it's really just a fuck you I'm never going to admit it now but like everybody everybody knows that he was you know like yeah that it's not that that part's not even that controversial because everyone knows that he was but he just does that for whatever reason and that that's fine right but like why that one was okay to relitigate but not all the other ones and that's so dangerous because you have a situation where like peace is so delicate

because everyone's pissed off everybody has grievance on every side of the community there is grievance yeah but now you're going to allow one grievance to surface because you can actually just bring everybody's grievances back in and then we're back to square one so i thought that was a bit irresponsible.

The court case that happens late

in the series

say nothing. And then we're back to square one.
So I thought that was a bit irresponsible. The court case that happens late in the series, Say Nothing.
However, what I will say is that it's an exceptionally good series about the worst part of the troubles. And you'd be hard-pressed to criticize anything from the first five five or six episodes and it's very intense yes watching the suffering of delores price and her sister and it's very intense watching them have to do things that in hindsight are fucked up fucked up fucked up and a lot of it's fucked up i mean the bomb is fucked up you know but like but they don't feel bad about the bomb you know but anyway like you know it's it's a great series just the last two episodes are are are i have a big reconcile i have a big problem with them and i'll i did a bit of research on it and like the people behind the boston tapes particularly ed maloney, you know, he's written a lot of different histories of the IRA, but he was very against the peace process and he was very against Jerry Adams.
And here's the thing that the thing, it really makes it seem like there was like a divide down the middle of people that didn't want the peace process, people that didn't like that's just not that's like a that's not a fair reflection it doesn't even mention martin mcginnis who's jerry adams partner in all this who's like he was like officially the leader of the dairy brigade of the ira he wasn't hiding that he was a leader of the ira he's not even mentioned in in the whole thing so it's not even like good history because to to really go at jerry adams and lot of people don't like Jerry Adams. I'm sure there was a lot of people that were delighted with the way that Jerry Adams was tarnished there.
But like they go after Jerry Adams. They don't even mention Martin McGinnis as also part of the peace process part.
Not the Gene McConville part, but the peace process part. Like Martin McGinnis is like, like, front and center on all that.
So, the last two episodes are, like, a little bit agenda-driven. But honestly, the first six, I would say, is one of the better shows about the troubles.
I thought it was some of the best television that I have watched in a long time. so well acted, beautifully scripted terribly stressful to watch but intense

dramatic The best television that I have watched in a long time. So well acted, beautifully scripted, terribly stressful to watch, but intense, dramatic, interesting.
And as I don't, I mean, they make it pretty clear. This is a dramatization of things that really happened that Jerry Adams has never admitted being in the IRA.
They say that clear, but that kind of, that's a little bit of a scapegoat. And I understand what you you're saying that that kind of gives them some creative liberties but it also puts in the mind of the watcher that jerry adams is guilty as shit right and so yeah but i mean jerry adams is guilty as shit in the sense that like we all like like this is the problem because the series makes it the series kind of like slowly goes into this like unsolved mystery type series, right? Yes.
But like, that's not what's happening. No.
In the North. Yeah.
The truth is that the North is about like truth and reconciliation. It's not about unsolved crimes, you know? Right.
So like, it becomes a series about like an unsolved mystery. I don't disagree with you.
In real terms, that's not what's going on because everybody knows that Jerry Adams denies being in the IRA. When they say that he's denying being in the IRA, it makes it seem like he's saying he wasn't involved in this shit.
Like we all know he was involved in this shit. Yeah.
Like we know. But I agree with you.
Like the peace process is hard. And so at some point you have to put a pin in it and say, okay, we're going to do our best to move forward.
It's the same thing that happens in any war, in any conflict. It's at some point in conflicts in your relationship with your wife or your husband.
At some point, you have to say, okay, we did each other dirty on this one. We said some shitty things to each other.
Let's kiss and make up. And can you give me a hand job you know i mean listen that's that's the way that that's the way that it all works but it was a it's a horrible 30 years for nothing you know like yeah it's it's that's actually for it's an interesting it's an interesting sort of loop back to what we were talking about before is that like people take for granted like civil society holding you know like people in you know like ireland even the north of ireland like ireland's had quite a violent history but like in the 1950s in the north there was sectarianism like there was bad shit being done to catholics like there it wasn't an equal society but even amidst like the fight for civil rights that actually was the precursor to the Troubles, nobody could have imagined that this would lead to 30 years of violence, like 30 years of instability, of people being moved out of their houses.
Nobody could have imagined that. And nobody could imagine that still to this day, the city is divided.
Like, there's literally a peace wall. And that's what I think sometimes when people are just so haphazard with antagonistic language, and then our leaders are haphazard with antagonistic language.
It's like, it can break down. It's not as solid as you think it is.
Exactly. Yeah.
So, you got to be careful. Yeah, it just takes a spark, right? It takes one spark, the snowball gets rolling downhill and that can come from, people need to be careful with their words and certainly with their actions, especially when they have a platform.
And I think this conversation has, you know what surprised me? This conversation has been a lot more interesting than I expected. Well, actually, can I just, since we're talking about watching stuff, if you actually want to watch a movie about the hunger strikes, you know, because the 12 IRA men, you know, died.
Yeah. But it's called Hunger.
Michael Fassbender plays Bobby Sands. He was the first guy to die in a hunger strike and uh it's very good very intense uh it's hunger yeah just one word hunger hunger and it's i'm gonna watch it but it's very intense though okay i'm ready for it this is not like honey let you you want to watch something fun yeah i mean this is a movie this is a movie about a man starving himself to death in similarly gory detail as they did with dolores price yeah that dolores price those three episodes were highly intense it's her and her sister they go to jail and um they go on a hunger strike uh for their civil rights and um it is some of those scenes are some of the most intense watching but the the overall, the show, I think, is well-deserved.
The kudos that they're getting is well-deserved for the acting and for the story-making and for the cinematography. It's just really well done.
I'll put it on the list. Des and the Bishop Exchange is now available anywhere that you find your— The congregation.
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Des is currently on tour over there across the pond,

but I assume you're making your way back to the States

for another round of shows.

Oh, yes.

Right back in March.

I'm back in Long Island, Phoenix, Denver.

I got a lot of shows.

They're all on my website.

I need to add Atlanta.

I need to add Atlanta.

I've been...

I was in the punchline before, but I haven't... I actually didn't sell a lot of tickets, but I feel like I would do better now.
So I have to get back there. Yes, please.
If you come to Atlanta, we will help you sell those tickets. Oh, great.
And I'll, we can do, we can go live. We can be in the studio.
Oh, that would be awesome. That would be better.
So there's a new, there's a new club here called the helium comedy club., yeah. That's a chain.
Yeah. Oh, it's a chain? But they're good.
Yeah. And so they've got some good names.
Alpharetta. North of the city.
There's some good names that have been playing up there. So check it out.
You book the show. We'll help you sell the tickets.
Actually, I'm overdue. I've had a lot of people asking me.
So that'll probably come soon. I'll let you know.
And you're also welcome to come back back here i hope sooner rather than later uh dez is our second second by the way you're the second only the second guest we have asked to come on twice really yes uh true reggie watts and you and reggie watts oh my god dude he's my favorite i don't think a lot of people understand that the genius of reggie we do he is genius last time he came on the second time he came on he's like he had a new girlfriend so we ended up spending about 48 minutes of the hour we were on talking about love and to hear reggie watts talk about love while he is in love was one of the most fascinating conversations we've had in a very long time he is a genius also he sent us krat Yeah, he sent us drinks. So we were all drinking that while we were talking.
I've seen him in three continents. I've seen him in Australia, in Europe, and in the United States.
Do you guys know each other? I know him, but I got to know him originally from watching him and just being mesmerized by what he does. You know what we should do? Des Bishop, Reggie Watson, the commercial break, all on one.
And we've done a few things together before because I do have like a secret little couple of hip hop skills. So I, and I'm very open to Reggie's style of like improv and he's such a great guy.
I couldn't love that guy more creatively. Well, now my wheels are turning right now.
My wheels are turning. I'm going to email you because I've got an idea, an event that we have coming up, and I've got an idea.
That's right. Maybe Reggie, Des, and us can be in the studio at the same time.
So I'm going to email you. Thanks for coming on.
Desbishop.com, I think it is. net.
I lost dot com. Dot net.
Oh, fuck. At Desbishop on Instagram.
Ah, motherfucker. Who's sitting on your URL? I don't even know.
How much do they want? I can't even get to that part. Yeah.
So annoying. All right.
Maybe I'll help you find that out. We'll railroad this guy.
They're called... Yeah, where they just buy up stuff just to have it.
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Ah, Des Bishop, what more is there to say, Chrissy?

What more is there to say?

We talked about American politics. We talked about Irish politics.
We talked about Irish politics and then American politics. It was a whole day.
Severance. We talked about severance.
That's one thing we did talk about. And the non-existent renovation that Hannah told us was going on in her apartment.
There you go. Now we know.
You've been outed, Hannah. You've been outed.
He was a good deflector for her. He was what? He had her back.
Oh, yeah, he did. He was like, yeah, well, you know.
There's always construction going. We mean to renovate, but we haven't yet.
We meant to get our story straight before I came on, but I didn't talk to her. That's got to be interesting.
Like, Hannah is very successful at what she does as a matter of fact i think she just sold out

three nights at radio city musical with giggly squad um her runaway podcast hit uh and so and des is famous in his own right and much more famous over across the pond then they separate for long periods of time like he's over there for seven weeks that's a long time to be without your wife. That's a long time to be without your wife.

But, you know,

part of me thinks that might work just fine. I'd love to separate from my family for seven weeks.
Just the children, not the wife, just the children. Actually, I think I'd miss them terribly.
You absolutely would. Yeah.
I go out of town to a conference or whatever for a day or two, and all of a sudden I'm missing my kids. It's funny in that way about children and family members is that you think you need a break from them, and then you get a break from them, and you really don't want the break from them.
You're instantaneously missing them. So anyway, Dez, lovely human being, desbishop.net.
That's where you can get tickets and information about his tour. Also check out the exchange with john bishop and des bishop it's a good podcast we've listened to the first couple of episodes they're just getting started one of the things that they do do is you can actually call in live on their show and they will take your questions right there more information about that on his social medias so thanks des for coming in today we certainly appreciate it.
I'd love to talk. I think we're going to see him again.
Yes, Des, for coming in today. We certainly appreciate it.

I think we're going to see him again.

Yes, and I believe we'll see Des for a third time.

Maybe.

Hopefully.

He told us he would, but we'll see.

We'll see how it goes.

After we just talked American politics for an hour.

He's fascinating.

I like hearing his point of view.

I agree 100%. Listen, everybody's got a point of view.
It's okay to share like hearing his point of view. I agree.
A hundred percent. Listen,

everybody's got a point of view. It's okay

to share that point of view every once in a while.

I know that the commercial break is often a

break from all of the regular bullshit, but

sometimes the bullshit percolates, and

you just want to hear what somebody else has to say.

That's it. That's all we're doing here.

Just facilitating a conversation.

Look at us. Fuck you!

Look at us. Yeah, look at us.
Look at us. We're the new Rogan.
No. No.
No, sure. That won't be happening.
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Very URL. Very URL kind of dude.
Dial it up on the AOL. On the AOL.
There's a song that my son has been listening to and in this song, it's got the noises of dial-up. Oh, wow.
It's like a sound effect. And he goes, Dad, that's what phones used to sound like, right? And I go, that's how you used to connect to the internet.
And he said, with that noise? And I go, well, that's the noise it would make. He was very confused about everything.
It is very confusing. I said, that's the noise of computers talking to each other.
And he was like, like Siri? And I, okay, I'll just put it down. Forget it.
Never mind. You'll learn when you're old.
You'll hear it in the history books. Yeah, it will be.
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I guess that's all I can do for now. I think so.

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