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Dusty Slay is 1/4 the team of comedians that makeup the Nateland Podcast. Along with Nate Bargatze and Aaron webber Dusty has helped to put Nashville on the comedy map. With two Top 10 Netflix specials, Dusty is in his "high output" mode! Bryan & Krissy welcome Dusty to TCB as he kicks off his next tour, with all new material.

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And I was talking to a friend of mine one night outside a comedy club and she was out there smoking a cigarette and I got her so fired up.

You know, she was like, dang, I want to have a kid now too, you know?

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And I was like, well, I don't know, you know.

Like, it's different for everybody, you know.

Like, for instance, my sister, she smoked while she was pregnant, and it only took her six months to have a baby.

Okay.

Nah, that is true, though.

And

they're fine, though.

That was years ago.

They're fine.

But I think my sister liked it at the time, you know, because the hospital wanted to babysit for a while.

So

she had to go back to her trailer and smoke cigarettes and

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On this episode of the Commercial Break.

I agree with that.

And like, I went to see, I saw a magician when I was in Vegas recently.

Very good.

Very good.

I'm not even into magic.

Very good.

But, you know, he kind of blows your mind with the first trick.

And then the rest of the time, he's doing tricks that are like, yeah, this is mind-blowing too, but you've already blown my mind.

So I'm like, yeah, of course you can do that.

I just want to do something.

Of course you can do that.

That's like Pink Floyd or Roger Waters doing Comfortably Numb is the opener.

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Why did he start with Comfortably Numb?

I'm not even high yet.

The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now.

Oh, yeah, Cats and Kittens, welcome back to the Commercial Break.

I'm Brian Greene.

This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Chris Joy Hoadley.

Best of you wherever you are, Kristen Joy Hoadley.

Best to you, Brian.

And best of you out there in the podcast universe.

All right, so let me get it right out.

I'm just going to address the elephant in the room.

Chrissy's going to sound weird because for the first time since 2020, Chrissy and I are recording this intro and the outro to our TCB infomercial, who is, we're very excited about Dusty Slay.

We're recording it remotely

because of,

well, you know the story.

Last week, the whole house had MRSA.

There's a nasty skin infection.

Yes, there's a nasty skin infection going around the entire entire house.

And because the strong medication they gave us made me feel additionally worse, we didn't have a lot of recording time.

And we were excited to get this one out to you.

Hot off the presses.

They say that two out of three ain't bad, Chrissy.

Two out of four ain't bad.

Because we have now had two out of four of the hosts, the rotating cast of characters known as Nateland.

Of course, Nate Bargazzi's podcast.

We've had Aaron Weber.

We have long

tried to get Dusty Slay.

Yeah, it's been a couple of of years in the making, I think.

We've had some fits and starts with Dusty.

Not his fault, but mainly our fault.

Yes.

And

this one almost didn't happen either because we are still having technical issues.

We almost made it three for three on Dusty Slay.

So we have already, usually we record the intro previous to the guest, but we have already recorded to Dusty.

So let's just get that out there.

We are doing the intro outro.

We were together when you recorded it.

Yeah, we were together when we recorded it.

And because we wanted to get this out very quickly, We decided let's just go ahead and do the intro outro via remote Dusty Slay is an American comedian coming out of the very hot

bed of comedy right now, which is Nashville.

I think largely in part to Dusty Slay Aaron Weber and Nate Bargazzi who have really taken a lot of comedians under their wing.

Dusty will share more about why he believes Nashville has become a hotbed of comedy up there.

But he's what they call a quote-unquote clean comic.

I don't think it really matters if you use you know, the fuck or the shit.

I think it really matters whether you're funny, and Dusty certainly is that.

Yes, he has two Netflix specials in the last 18 months: Working Man, which just came out back in early 2024, and his new special, Wet Heat.

Am I getting that right, Chrissy?

Wet Heat.

Wetty,

yeah, he's got the funny bone.

He does.

He's got the funny bone.

And he's also, I mean,

I got to imagine it's very difficult to come up with just one good hour of comedy in your entire life.

We have 900 episodes, and I don't know if we could string together.

We're still trying.

I don't know if we could string together an hour of laughs out of those 900 hours.

Dusty's got two one-hour two one-hour plus specials on Netflix, both of which have now been in the top 10 for a period of time on Netflix.

So you know he's doing something right in the vein of the great

Jeff Foxworthy, Jerry Seinfeld, the storytellers of our time who managed to do it and take you, as he will say in the interview, managed to take you to the edge, but make you feel safe that you're not going to cross it.

And I got to be honest, Chrissy, about this one, saying this before we go into the interview.

Sometimes you don't really, like I've said this a lot, you don't know what to expect when a stranger comes on the television.

And

Dusty was one of those people that was like, I don't really know what to expect out of this.

We're not a clean show.

We definitely play blue a lot.

I mean, dick jokes are easy, right?

Dick jokes are easy.

Low hanging fruit.

Low hanging fruit for all of us.

I didn't know what to expect, and I left this interview really

like the vibe was high with Dusty Slay.

I had a really good time with him.

We both, I mean, all three of us, I think, really got along well and just like it just flowed.

It did.

It did just flow.

So I encourage you to go to dusty slay.com.

He is on, and he now has a really long set of dates he is stringing together for his fall and winter tour.

I'm sure that will run even further than that.

He was just here in Atlanta a week ago as we're releasing this episode a week and some change ago.

We just recorded this, Hot Off the Presses, Wet Heat, Working Man.

Both of those are now available on Netflix, as well as the Nateland podcast and his own podcast with his wife, which he does

also.

And I'll link all of those in the show notes below, as I always do.

And tickets are available at dusty sleigh.com or you know, whichever local venue he's there.

I'm not sure they're all through Ticketmaster, but I know that some of them are.

So, why don't we do this, Chrissy?

Let's take a short break.

Let's take a short break from

telepodcasting.

Through the magic of telepodcasting, you down on the south side, me up in the north side of the little city known as Atlanta, Georgia, all the way from Nashville.

We'll triangulate and get us all in one place with Mr.

Dusty Slay.

How does that sound?

I think we should do it.

All right, we'll take a break.

We'll be back with Dusty.

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Dusty has put out two, not one, but two specials in what, in 18 months?

I've seen Netflix about 18 months.

Yeah,

that's about right.

Yeah.

That is a good clip.

Or do you intend to now follow it up with a third one in less than 18 months?

I'm ready to go.

I don't know.

You know, I don't really know how fast you should or shouldn't put these out.

But, you know, I felt, you know, I felt good about wet heat.

And I was like, you know, some of these jokes I'm tired of telling.

And I'd like to get them recorded so they don't, you know, you get tired of telling something, you push it out of the set.

Yeah.

And if it's not recorded, then it just kind of goes into this abyss.

It's in the ether.

Yeah.

Where you forget how to tell it and now, and then it's just gone.

So I was like, we got to record it.

But I really liked it.

I was very happy with Wet Heat.

I think Wet Heat's better than Working Man.

And in between,

you know, Working Man and and my last album son of a ditch was you know eight years yeah so uh it really doesn't take that long i don't think if you're on a flow yeah i guess that's i guess that's a good point and it leads to my next question is like you're in the zone right there's this kind of like propagating creativity that's just you're feeling and i i like what you said that if you if a joke goes out into the ether you forget how to tell it so and that probably has to do with being in the zone too this is my material i'm in the zone i know how to to read the audience.

I know how to get them to react.

I know when to pause and all that other stuff.

It's just like natural to you.

And you're going through kind of this like creativity.

You're going through a growth spurt, if you will, Dusty.

You're having growing, you're growing.

You're a growing boy.

Yeah.

Well, I think you're right.

You know, and it's like, you know, the more you create stuff, the more you want to create stuff, the more you feel the flow, the more you're in with it.

I mean, I have a new hour now since putting out wet heat.

I mean, I got right to work.

and you know in atlanta i did an hour and 20 minutes uh of all stuff that's not on the special and i thought it was really good i mean you know it's you know uh i feel like i have a pretty good gauge of when it's not good right you know i don't like to do not good stuff

fair enough yeah you know yeah and then

I don't like the, you know, some comics do it and I realize you have to do it sometimes, but they'll go, I'm on tour and this tour is the working on jokes tour or whatever, or the new jokes tour.

I don't like doing that.

I don't want to do that.

So, you know, I had about an hour and a half of material when I recorded wet heat.

So then you record an hour.

Then I have an hour that I have a half hour that I like.

And then, and then, you know, as I go along, I'm, I'm doing the half hour that I didn't record.

I'm doing, you know, a half hour of new stuff.

Sure.

And then I'm doing about 20 minutes of stuff that's on the special.

Yeah.

So that way we're getting all good jokes, but I can pepper in the new stuff.

And you do that while it takes time for the special to come out.

So by the time the special's out, you should be done with all the other stuff.

Yeah.

And at a good enough place to where you can still work on some jokes without your whole act being read from a notebook.

Yeah.

And go ahead, Chrissy.

Well, how does your, I'm curious kind of just how do you come up with your material?

Is it, do you sit down and really dedicate some time to work on it?

Or do the, do the things kind of simmer and bubble up throughout your everyday living and you write them down?

Yeah, I think it just simmers up and bubbles up throughout everyday.

Because

when I sit down to write, I like, now this could be an excuse that I've created for myself

because I'm wrong.

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Yeah.

But I do believe that when I sit down and I write,

I write not the way that I tell jokes.

I have a different, you know, so I write and it's funny to me.

And then I go tell what I wrote and then it's not funny to the audience.

Yeah.

And then I've almost cemented it in my mind because I wrote it down.

So now I'm like, no, this is the funny way,

even though the audience is not laughing at it.

But if I just have an idea and I take it to the stage, mess around with it a little bit,

you know, if it doesn't work, we wave, we say we're having a good time, and you move on, you know?

Yeah.

But, and then the audience laughs because they're in on it and everything's fun.

And, but if, if,

you know, but then that way I get to work that, you get to go through those natural instincts of just being a funny person in life.

Yeah, you have, it's a living and breathing thing.

And in that moment, it stretches and it contracts or whatever it is.

You can think of it like, you know, like, I don't know, like a bottle of jelly.

You're playing with it to find out, yeah i wrote it i know it's funny i just have to figure out how it's funny in this moment and connects you know and then the connective tissue to the last joke or the next joke or whatever yeah i mean yes it feels like it i don't know if i lost you but you you froze on me but i think maybe i'm still there oh you're still here yeah we can still hear you but the um i like a joke starts it's a ton of words very long and then you you're just telling it and you're trying to find those funny parts you're like okay where am i getting laughs?

And then where you start to, you start to get a little bit of a structure of the laughter, and then you take away all that other stuff that doesn't matter.

And then once you've got that firm little skeleton of a joke, then you can start adding all these other tags.

Right.

I love it.

Which is why so many of my jokes, I say I like to tell triangle jokes.

I'm just making fun of myself, but where I like the laugh, we go up, up, up, then we hit a funny part.

And then I'm still telling the joke, even though it's getting less funny and less funny because I found it.

I'm like, this is it.

This is the punchline.

But then I want to add on all these tags

to where we eventually get to a place where we're like, are we still telling this joke?

Are we still here?

You know,

that's really interesting.

I love hearing, I, you know, I think comedy in some ways is a noble profession.

I really do.

And I love hearing how some of the, you know, we've had a lot of comedians on here, some of the best joke writers and storytellers of our time comedically,

how they do their craft, how they work in their craft, how they see their craft is very obvious to me that, you know, you may be lazy, your word's not mine, but you're very much a tactician.

You're a technician of the joke, right?

You're thinking about it and you understand

after all these years how to put it together and how to do it.

When you, but I think you have an advantage too, and tell me if I'm wrong.

You sit in a room often with a bunch of other really funny people bantering about, and you're all very funny.

I'm Nateland, and you're all very funny, just kind of, you know, this like comedic stew that's going on all the time.

Do you find that that, I'm sure you do, does you find that that helps when you're

just the energy, like just the energy, the energy in the room?

Well, I think, yeah, I mean, you want to hang out with funny people, right?

They say if you want to learn another language, you go to that country to immerse yourself in that.

So I think hanging out with funny people, being on showcases, being in the green room,

going on, you know, the road with other comics, you're always talking about stuff.

You're always trying to make each other laugh.

So you're keeping those muscles going.

But I think for me, I mean, I love to talk about doing an hour and 20 minutes because when I started doing comedy, like when I started headlining, it's kind of like the mandatory amount of time you have to do is 45 minutes.

And so when I started headlining, I was like, oh man, 45 minutes, that's a long time.

It sure is.

And then, and then, but I quickly realized that I wanted to get to do an hour because the show is 90 minutes.

So the more I can do on the show, the less the other comics are doing.

And I only mean that because, you know, you may get paired up with someone that's very funny and you don't want to give them too much of the show.

You don't.

You got to come at the end.

Yeah.

You know, so you're like, you know, you, you know, so i wanted to do an hour and now that i'm doing theaters i you know i do the hour 20.

part of that is so i have plenty of time to do some jokes that might not be as funny that i weave in between funnier jokes just so i can um you know keep building my material.

That's it.

So you had the Atlanta show this last weekend.

You were at Symphony Hall.

Beautiful place, by the way.

Beautiful place to go see a show.

I don't know.

I think there are a number of comics who have done Symphony Hall.

I've never seen comics.

Nurse Blake was.

Oh, yeah, Nurse Blake was there.

How was it?

Did you feel that?

Was the energy good in Atlanta?

Did we represent?

I've been coming to Atlanta for years.

Of course.

Atlanta's always great for me.

I mean, really, Atlanta doing the Laughing Skull Festival.

Now it's my third time doing it, but that's where I really had a break.

You know, and people from JFL, people from the tonight show

were all at Laughing Skull when I got, you know, that's where I started to get things in 2017.

Oh, really?

Tell me more about that.

So, Laughing Skull Comedy Festival, and you've got some people in the audience, some movers and shakers, people who could give you a spotlight, essentially.

Yeah, I had already done Laughing Skull twice and back when it was a competition.

Yeah.

I remember that.

I was there a couple of times.

Okay.

Well, I had some good sets, but I never won.

I never got far in the contest at all.

So then I took a year off.

I didn't

try for it in 2016.

And then in 2017, I came back, but this time I was just happy with my career.

I was happy with how things were going for the most part.

So, I didn't put this weird pressure on myself to like impress people.

I was just, I'm just gonna enjoy myself.

Yeah.

And I'm like, I come to Atlanta all the time.

I do the punchline.

I'm doing the laughing skull.

It's like, these are people I make laugh all the time.

There's really no pressure here.

Yeah.

And then I, and then that's when I had a really great set

in front of the industry.

So yeah, Atlanta has always been good for me.

But

just to the Symphony Hall question, I love classical music and I think it's just amazing music.

So to do comedy where I know that music is happening feels a little wild.

You know, just to

know that they're putting out like the most beautiful music in the world.

And then here I am telling jokes.

Yeah.

But I am happy to do it.

Why are you a symphony?

Why are you a music or a fan of classical music, symphonic music?

Not to be cliche about it, but I do think I like all music.

Yeah.

But classical is a not, it's just nice music to have on.

I like cello, classical music specifically.

Interesting.

Because it's the most relaxing music in the world.

There is no doubt about that.

My wife says it's depressing.

I like some organ music too.

And my brother-in-law said it sounds like we're at a funeral.

But I just find it really relaxing.

And sometimes I'll take long road trips where I just listen to classical, or I'll sit around my hotel with a Bluetooth speaker and just listen to classical.

And I feel like it just relaxes me.

Yeah.

And I think it helps me be creative.

I think we're, you know, we're all doing podcasts.

I do two podcasts a week most of the time, sometimes more.

You know, everybody, you know, we're all doing, we're all talking and we're also all taking it in.

And I feel like we take in so much and sometimes we're like, I don't feel like we're processing it.

That's so true.

That stuff's always just going in.

Yeah, it feels like listening to some classical, I feel like, just helps me process things.

I like that.

But did someone turn you on to that?

Was that something that was in the house when you were young?

Did you just like hear it one day and you're like, oh, that's good.

I like, whatever that is is making me feel good.

Well, I grew up in Alabama and I grew up in a trailer park.

And I think at some point I just wanted to

feel like I was classing it up a bit.

I wanted to feel like I was better than everyone, even though I don't want to feel like that now, but I feel like at the time I did.

I just started listening to this music and then I was like, oh, this is really great.

And, you know, I'll go through periods where I don't listen to it for a long time, or I'll go through a little jazz period.

I like jazz, too.

Me too.

Not as relaxing, but it is, it does,

you know, like jazz piano.

And I don't like, sometimes you go to New Orleans and they got that real

walking out on the street with the drum.

I'm not as into that, marching band jazz, but I like, you know, maybe nightclub jazz.

Yeah, nightclub jazz is good.

I agree with you.

Some jazz can be a little chaotic and disjointed for my taste, but

in general, I'm a fan of jazz.

My dad used to listen to Beethoven and Bach and Mozart when we were kids.

He would listen to that and he liked it.

And that turned me on to it.

And so for me, it's comforting.

It is a bit of escapism.

It's very, it's very beautiful.

To think that some of those people wrote that music, you know, blind, one-eyed, deaf, you know, they're writing that these complicated orchestral pieces, symphonies, with hundreds of instruments and people singing.

And they did that without the benefit of auto-tune or editing software is just a feat of immense godlike creativity.

It's crazy to me.

It's crazy.

It is crazy.

And

I don't, I mean, I would never be able to prove this sort of thing, but they say that, you know, there's frequencies, right?

And a lot of our music today is the wrong frequency, very low, and it's like dumbing us down.

And,

you know, but whereas classical is a is a different frequency that, you know, helps our brain.

I saw this video on TikTok, probably not true, but I guess they said they were saying that Beethoven's Fifth Symphony helps people with cancer.

They were saying it helps kill cancer cells.

Like, again, probably not true, and I'm not saying it.

But might be true for someone.

We just don't know.

You know, if I have a pain in my body, I put on a little Fifth Symphony and I go, no, I'm going to listen to the whole thing because

I'm curing myself.

You know, I knew a guy who went to Georgia Tech and he was studying very complicated physics in some way, shape, or form.

And somehow he went to go get his doctorate and he was doing some thesis in that education where him and a couple of other students were trying to prove that there was a key.

of life.

There was a note, a frequency of life, like that connected all things throughout the universe.

It was a very interesting thing.

I am not smart enough to repeat what he said this many years ago, but that turned me on to the idea that, you know, music is frequency and you can listen to stuff that obviously gives you

a boost in mood, just like if you go see a comedy show or, you know, your favorite movie or whatever it is.

And then there's things that just don't seem to jive the same way.

And I do think the music today, not all of it, but some of it, feels,

I don't know,

not like some of the music that I've heard before, like older music, but that's not a knock on younger folks.

That's just they are, you know, we're in this world that we're in, and they're reflecting that back to us.

Yeah, I mean, you know, because I, you know, I used to listen to limp biscuit, you know, when I was in high school, and I still love limp biscuit, right?

But I'm like, you can listen to limp biscuit, and suddenly you're like, angry and resentful.

Yes.

And I'm like, you know, you're like, why am I

angry and resentful?

Yeah.

I'm like,

you know what?

I'm like, you just listen to some classical.

You just relax for a second and chill out a bit.

Have you met Limp Biscuit in your travels?

Have you been to one of them?

I wish that I could, though.

I mean,

I was into it.

I mean, I love, I mean, the first three albums at least, I know that the third one, the chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavored water or whatever that's called.

That one was a jam to me at the time.

Yeah.

Doesn't hold up as well.

But the first two, still unbelievable.

I am fascinated, always been fascinated, will continue to be fascinated by the relationship between Fred Durst and Corey, Corey Feldman.

It's fascinating.

If you follow those two on the internet, it's a weird, wild relationship.

Corey Feldman wannabe musician, Fred Durst, actual musician, but they support each other.

They seem like brothers.

It's like kind of, you know, like a bromance, so to speak, but they're the funniest odd couple I've ever seen in my entire life.

And Lim Biscuit's still out there touring just this last year and absolutely killing it.

You mentioned being in a trailer park.

You went from trailer park and then I read that you were the youngest comedian to

be on stage at the grand old Opry.

Is that true or is that internet mythology?

Well, you know, I don't have a way to know if that's true.

Okay.

I do know this.

I do know it's not true now.

At the time, I might have been the youngest comic to do the Opry.

But then I know John Christ and Aaron Weber are both younger than me, and they've done it since then.

Oh, you know what?

We had Aaron on, and I think we had this same stat for Aaron now that you're saying it out loud.

I don't think Aaron did it,

but maybe he did, because we had a running joke for a while.

Someone made like a fake Wikipedia for me.

And the Wikipedia bio was, I was once the youngest comic to ever do the Opry and then that title was taken by Aaron Weather.

That's so funny.

Aaron, I think we talked to him about this.

I can recall.

But you know, I think I,

and I don't know, but I think that I kind of ushered in a bit of a new era of comedy at the at the Opry.

Now, you know, for a long time, Henry Cho and,

oh, gosh, I can't, Gary Muldeer.

Okay.

They're both members of the Opry, and they were doing it for a long time.

They were like, I don't know, maybe the only guys doing it for years and years.

Okay.

And then I think one of the directors saw me at Zaney's, our club in Nashville, and they liked what I did, and they invited me, you know, to do the Opry.

Or my manager made it happen.

I got a new manager.

And all of a sudden, the moment I signed with my new manager, I was doing the Opry.

Pay him double.

Pay him double.

But the,

but, you know, after I did it, you know, then there was kind of a new wave of comics from Zane's and stuff.

And I don't mean that it was me necessarily, but I think that once I did it and it went well, I think the opera was like, oh, this can work.

Let's get more new younger people in here.

You ushered in the opportunity to kind of turn a new leaf and say, hey, listen, this works here in a certain brand and a certain style and the right person, we can get them in here and they can, um, and they can do it.

And that must be acceptable.

Because it's possible if I'd gone out and just bombed that they would have been

back to Henry Cho.

Yeah.

That was the test.

Yeah, Nashville is, we talked to Aaron about this.

Nashville is like a hotbed of

comedy.

And, you know, I think if I might

praise you, compliment you a little bit.

I think it might have something to do with Nate and you.

And even though I'm sure Aaron wouldn't admit this, you know, it's like there are a lot of really good comics that are basing themselves in Nashville or out of Nashville.

Do you feel that energy in the air when you're in Nashville?

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I, uh, when I moved there in 2014, there was, there, there was Zaney's was there, and Zane's was really good.

And we had, Zany's has always been great.

And we have a,

you know, I had a pretty good open mic scene, you know, so I got involved in that.

And then around about 2015, I started doing my show, which is a monthly showcase that I still do at Zaney's.

And, you know, I started putting all these comics on.

And, um, and then, you know, when COVID hit, so I was doing, you know, and then there were some other showcases too, but I've been doing my show for a really long time.

And then when COVID hit,

they started kind of doing other showcases.

Some a lot of LA people, a lot of New York people moved to Nashville.

Some left, but some are still there.

So they started doing other kind of like sort of open mics.

And now Nate has a starting about last year, Nate started doing a weekly showcase.

Oh, interesting.

You know, which is, I've always done, my show's always been relatively clean.

I don't require people to be super clean, but just keep it within reason.

Yeah.

Keep it in some balance.

Far round.

Because if you've been to open mics, you know it's

pretty wild.

Yes.

The scene.

Yeah.

I think there's a like there's clean and then there's, you know, people think there's clean and then everything else in the world.

I think there's a little space in between.

Yeah.

I

agree with you.

And you go to some of those open mics, it becomes like the most x-rated slam poetry sometimes.

And I think people sometimes are misguided in their idea of what might or might not be funny.

I think some people do it for shock value.

I think other people just talk that way.

I think there is a third version that is very funny and they work blue, so to speak, blue, right?

And but you go to those open mics sometimes and it just gets a little out of control.

But Chrissy and I were talking about this before you came on, and we've had lots of clean, quote unquote, comics.

Is that a choice that you make?

Or is it just, listen, I want to be accessible to the most amount of my fans as possible?

So I, and I'm not interested in shaking the tree in that manner.

What, when, so when you do a clean show,

what is the reasoning behind that?

Well, I think it's a little bit of both of those things where you say,

I do want to be accessible to more people.

I want people, I want to do the kind of comedy.

I don't want to do comedy for kids.

I always say that.

I don't recommend kids.

You're definitely not comedy for kids.

You're definitely not that.

But

I want you to be able to bring your aunt or your mom or your dad to the show and you not be embarrassed that you brought them.

I'm not doing something where you're like, oh, I wish my dad wasn't a camera.

I wish my mom didn't know I was into this type of comedy.

You know,

I have a friend just in, you know, there's a lot of dirty comedy that I do like.

I have a friend, Jordan Jensen, is her name, and she lived in Nashville for a while.

She's back in New York, and she is very dirty, right?

But she's dirty in a way that it feels like that's just who she is.

It's authentic to her, yeah.

Yeah, it does.

And so it's like, it really doesn't feel that bad.

Yeah.

Right.

But, but for me, if I'm saying what Jordan's saying, you would be like, oh, gosh,

Justy, settle down.

Yeah.

So I'm just not naturally that dirty of a person, but I do like to say some things.

I do like to talk about drugs.

I do like to talk about this and that.

But I try to, and if I am making, you know, sex jokes, I try to do it in the cleanest possible way.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

You know what I'm saying?

And I'm not throwing it out there.

Right.

It's innuendo, and sometimes innuendo is the harder joke to make.

It's easy to say whatever.

You know,

we can say it here on the show, but I want to make sure I keep it relatively clean so your audience likes it too.

But you can say whatever, but if the innuendo or the look or the motion that you make on stage, sometimes that's, in my opinion, the harder thing to do and something that you do do well.

And funnier.

And funnier sometimes.

That's true.

Yeah, I think if you establish some sort of line, like where the audience kind of feels like you'll never cross this line, then you can kind of inch up to the line and it feels edgy.

Yeah.

Even if it's not really that edgy.

Yeah.

It feels, it's like the, it's like the, you know, the dirty guy in church or whatever.

You're like, oh, he said the thing no one else will say, but it's not so far that it gets you kicked out.

That's right.

I always thought this about like Andrew Dice Clay.

Like when you start off with Hickory Dickory Doc, and anybody who knows Andrew knows that, the rest of that.

When you start off with Hickory Dickory Doc, where do you go from there in the set?

It's like, it can't get any crazier than Hickory Dickory Doc, right?

So I don't know, but again, that's a choice he made, and it worked for him at least for a period of time.

It worked for him very well.

Well, I agree with that.

And like, I went to see, I saw a magician when I was in Vegas recently.

Very good.

Very good.

I'm not even into magic.

Very good.

But, you know, he kind of blows your mind with the first trick.

Ah, and then the rest of the time, he's doing tricks that are like, yeah, this is mind-blowing too, but you've already blown my mind.

So I'm like, yeah, of course you can do that.

Yeah.

I just want to do something.

Of course, you can do that.

That's like Pink Floyd or Roger Waters doing Comfortably Numb is the opener.

You're like, what the shit is going on here?

Why did he start with Comfortably Numb?

I'm not even high yet.

You know, they said Billy Ray Cyrus, when he came out with Achy Breaky Heart, every live show, he would open and close with Achy Breaky Heart.

Okay, ready?

You remember this song

from the pandemic?

Despacito.

Remember the Despacito song?

And I think Justin Bieber did a version of it and Usher did a version, you know, with the guy singing Luis Fonsi in the back.

Despacito.

My wife's Venezuelan.

We go to the Luis Fonsi show.

I swear this is the absolute truth.

He played Despacito four separate times during a two and a half hour show, four separate times.

And the crowd ate it up every time.

It got crazier.

The crowd got crazier and crazier.

And the last one was like a seven and a half minute version.

And I was like, oh my God, if I hear this fucking shit, give the people what they want.

That's almost like a callback.

You go, you're like, you hype them up, and later on, you do it again.

You go, remember that?

It's good.

You always got to have the callback.

We always try to end the show.

I mean, this is a little technical on just about inside baseball, but you try and end the show on a callback, right?

What you started with, or something from the first segment, or whatever it is.

All right, Chrissy came up with a good game.

And so we're going to play a game with you.

It's clean.

I promise we won't.

It's not set, by the way.

I love this sign.

This looks good.

Thank you, buddy.

It feels good.

You guys are on the same screen.

It really feels like we're just in the room today.

I know.

Well, since if we can't be here in person, hopefully someday that'll happen.

But But if we can't be here in person, we wanted to cozy it up a little bit.

We used to sit at a table.

It just looked a little weird.

You know, we look like we're at an office or something.

Yeah, it did.

We were staring at people like this.

This is more conversational.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah.

All right.

Go, Chrissy.

All right.

This is a, we're having a good time rapid fire round.

Yes or no.

Yeah, just a yes or no.

All right, get started here.

So Waffle House at 2 a.m.

Yes.

Yes, absolutely.

Oh, yes.

I have a side.

You're just looking for yes or no's?

Yeah, just yesterday.

No, no, no, no, please.

If you have something funny to say, go for it.

2 p.m.

It makes no difference.

Exactly.

Anytime.

Anytime.

How many times in a

week or a month will you visit a Waffle House?

Well, it depends on if I'm hanging out with my dad or not.

Yes.

My dad lives in Alabama.

I live in Nashville.

That's a five-hour drive.

Once you're in my house, 300 Waffle Houses between

Waffle House two times on the way up.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, I'd eat there every day if I could.

There is nothing like Waffle House to me.

Okay.

Free motel breakfast worth waking up for.

I'm going to go no there.

You know,

I go down to the breakfast sometimes and I just walk through.

I know.

No.

I know.

I'm like, no.

If there's not a large cup of highly caffeinated coffee at the end of the breakfast bar with cream in it and sugar, then I'm not going.

That's it.

All right.

So the next one is fishing just to get out of mowing the lawn.

Yes or no?

I'm going to go no.

I love mowing the lawn.

That's heroin mowing.

The lawn is fun.

Yeah.

It is therapeutic with making the lines.

Yes, you make the lines.

You get away from the kids.

I like a riding mower

with no headphones, just listening to the engine.

I love it.

Smelling the grass.

I like Dusty's version of escapism.

He actually turns it all off.

I wish for one freaking second I was able to do it.

It is hard.

That's why uh the lawnmower is great yes i agree with you i got some land in mcminnville tennessee a little too hilly for a zero turn yeah i ride the zero turn out there so you really got to be focused you don't need distractions it's really good that's fun all right i'll i'll come help you one time you show me how to relax duck you can show me how to relax uh duct tape has a legitimate home repair Yeah, absolutely.

I agree with you on this.

That's pretty straightforward.

I think any man who has half

ability to fix anything, like I'm a guy who can probably figure it out, but most likely to call the dude who knows how, duct tape is a good replacement.

Yeah,

I've been trying to feed crows.

I've been trying to make friends with crows.

Oh, nice.

So I built a long

thing to put up top for crows to get it land on.

Yeah.

And I used PVC pipe, and I couldn't figure out how to connect to the base, though.

So I stuck a stick inside, put the pipe over, and then duct tape it.

Duct tape it and then painted it.

And it works great.

You got a perch.

Did the crows come?

They do.

They do come.

That's so fun.

Crows are super smart animals.

They are.

Yeah.

They're like one of the more intelligent birds, I think.

I don't know if that's what I've heard.

All right.

So eating boiled peanuts in the car.

Oh, absolutely.

Yes.

Yes.

I love boiled peanuts anyway.

Me too.

I love them anytime.

I love eating boiled peanuts anywhere, but I love them in the car.

Okay, but hot or cold is the question because I do not like them cold, but I love them hot.

I prefer hot.

I can do cold, but I do prefer hot.

I can go either way.

I love them both.

I love them anytime.

I don't really like them out of a can.

No, no, they've got to be in the bag from the side of the road for sure.

Canned boiled peanuts and I know.

I could do without that.

Yeah, yeah.

They give it to you in the styrofoam cup, which to me

is the best.

And not because it's not great for the earth, but at the end of the day, why I like that is because they stay warmer longer.

You can dig down in the bottom and get a hot one, even 15 minutes after you've gotten it.

That's true.

Yeah.

All right.

Saying y'all at a job interview or a proper setting.

I say y'all everywhere.

Me too.

Yeah.

I mean, I say yes to it, but I, you know what?

I used to wait tables.

I moved to Charleston.

I waited tables.

And I noticed myself one day saying y'all every five seconds.

And I just started, I don't know, how y'all doing today?

Well, just over and over again.

And I thought, well, let me try to work some other things in.

Yes.

And then I kind of don't say y'all very much anymore.

And I, it kind of goes against everything I believe in, but I

don't really say it.

Because it feels now I've gone a long time without saying it in a way that I feel like I'm some kind of phony if I try to say it.

Right.

I can see that.

That's interesting.

It is.

And with the accent, you would think y'all would come out every a couple of sentences, or that's just how you.

So here's a funny story real quick.

So I waited tables for a very long time, worked in the restaurant business, and I was waiting tables at a fine fine dining restaurant.

I walk up to a table full of women, older ladies, older southern ladies, and I say, hi, you guys.

And all of them looked at each other and the lady said, excuse me.

And I said, I just said, hi, you guys.

And she said,

there's not a guy in the group.

And I said, oh, it's just the thing that we northerners say because I was born in Chicago.

I said, oh, it's just a way that we express it.

She goes, it's y'all or hello, ladies.

And I thought to myself, wow.

And that was the first time that I think I used y'all in conversation.

That's when I'm 20-something years old.

First time.

And now I use it probably way too often.

Now Dusty's got me reconsidering.

That's happened to me before, too, where I, because I was trying to find other things.

She

is a thing.

And I had women say that to me.

We're not guys.

And I'm like, I was just kind of like, what?

Yeah.

I understand that.

I got it.

Yeah, exactly.

It wasn't 2025 when I went up and said this.

I'll just let you know.

It wasn't confusing then.

And then I hate when people say, you guys.

What are your guys doing?

It doesn't sound weird, but I get it.

Like if it were all guys and you went up and go, what up, guys?

So, in that sense, it doesn't make any sense that they wouldn't like it.

Fair enough.

I know, that's true.

Okay.

Wearing socks with sandals if nobody's looking.

I'm still going no.

I'm going no whether they're looking or not.

I'm not into it.

I'm not saying I've never done it.

Yeah.

But I feel like if you're wearing sandals, it's time to feel free.

I mean, let the socks off.

Let the piggies breathe.

I'm a big fan of sandals, and I don't think I've ever worn socks with sandals.

I've seen lots of people who do, and I don't understand why.

Like, if I have socks on and I just have to run outside really quick with

like, I can't get in the yard with the socks.

But that's the only time I'm going to do the socks.

Feel like the hot part of the whole shoe is.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

I want to free my foot from all of that.

I guess if you have nasty feet, free the foot.

Now, if you've got athlete's foot or some gangrene or some shit.

Keep that in closed.

Yeah, keep that in closed.

Okay, wear your socks.

Taking home shampoo bottles of shampoo bottles and or soap from the hotel.

Well, I'm not against it, and I've done it a lot.

Yeah, I'm going to go a no.

I don't think it's bad to do it, but I just think you can buy better shampoo.

You can do better.

You can definitely just yeah just treat yourself better than that well now let me ask you this do you get to stay um and I'm sure it's a mixed bag but do you get to stay when you go on tour at the at the fancier uh accommodations well here's a secret about when you get into theaters uh you book your own hotels yeah uh unless you you know unless you have somebody that you pay to book them sure you book your own hotels and I am a real middle ragged kind of cheap cheap with hotels

because I'm in and out.

I'm here for one day.

Exactly.

And I just, I don't, I don't go, I don't go, you know, Motel 6 or Super 8.

But you're not at the Ritz.

I like a Marriott,

you know, a Hilton.

I'm good with the Hilton Garden Inn.

Yeah.

Because garden inns are nice, yeah.

Yeah, but I don't, yeah, I mean, because sometimes, especially in a city, you go, Atlanta wasn't so bad, but they can be, where you pull in and then you've already paid for the hotel.

Now you're paying 50 bucks to park.

Yeah,

or somebody has to park the car for you.

And it's like,

I don't necessarily mind, but every time I want to get the car, now I got to go give somebody a slip.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

And then you have to, and if they hand them a $20 bill or they think you're a cheap ass and they're going to drive your car again, like the fenders into the road,

we went back.

You got to have a nice, you got to have a raggedy car.

Yes.

And then you don't have to check.

They're not attractive.

You tell Avis, can I get the worst car on?

Can I drive your car?

Why don't you take my rent to car?

If I pull up in a nice car, people think I stole it.

I was in a meeting, I went to a meeting in LA and I pulled up in a rental car.

I got the cheap rental car.

And the guy pulled into the garage, and the guy goes, Uber eats.

I go, I go, no.

Oh, my God.

That's real.

Meanwhile, we We gotta tell you a story.

We have Ari Shafir on, right?

You know, Ari,

I don't know him, but I know who he is.

Okay, Ari and uh Nate are apparently friendly with each other, right?

So, Ari is texts us before he comes on the show.

And he, he, like, we very rarely have an actual, like, the comedian actually text our cell phones.

And it's like, hey, guys, uh, can we push this like 30 minutes?

I'm having lunch with a friend.

And we're like, yes.

So he comes on and I said, how was lunch?

And he goes, great.

I was catching up with an old buddy.

You might know him.

His name is Nate Margoti.

And I was like, oh, of course, we know him.

Where did you guys go to eat?

He's like, oh, he got off the private.

He flew in on his private jet.

So I went and met him at the airport for dinner or lunch.

And I was like, geez, holy potatoes.

Do you feel like your career is on a similar trajectory as Nate's?

And does Nate push you to be better?

Because he's been phenomenally successful and he's really good at what he does.

I mean, Nate's reached this incredible level, but I've always believed, you know, up until where he's at right now, that Nate is just a couple of years ahead of me.

It always, you know, would seem like he would get something, and then a couple of years later, I would get that.

Yes.

I don't really have aspirations like that.

I don't, you know, I did the arena with him at Bridgestone where we were in the round and there was 18,000 people in there.

I mean, that show was fun, but I don't know, I'm not really into that.

I mean, I would be into the money, sure.

Yeah.

But I think there is something to me about comedy being in a tighter spot.

Now, I'm doing 2,000-seat theaters, but still those theaters, a lot of them are old or they're just built for that kind of acoustics.

And I just really enjoy that.

I don't, I mean, still more into that.

Well, listen,

this is a trope with musicians and with comedians, a lot of people who perform on stage, but, you know, big movie stars, they go back to the smaller event.

They want to go back to the days when it's more of a connection.

Yeah, four or five hundred people in the audience.

I mean, Rolling Stones have been on, you know, they play clubs with 300 people.

And, you know, Pearl Jam will warm up at a, you know, a 200-seat theater in Washington because I think that's where the magic happens, where you can see someone in the eyes, you can see them laughing, and it connects with what brought you there in the first place.

It's that life force that comes through you when you're at the Bridgestone Arena.

It's,

I can imagine it's just got to be like a little bit overwhelming, sensory overload.

Yeah.

And I also feel like

the more money that people make, I don't know, sometimes I see people

and I think they don't look very happy.

Yeah.

And they've made so much money.

And I'm like, I just feel like there's something to like, I've,

you know, worked for a long time.

You know, I'm 43 and I was, you know, still working a full-time job up until 30.

You know, and so it's like, like, you know, this has just been,

and even then, I mean, I went to part-time for a few years.

So it's, I've been about a full-time comic for about 10 years.

And I'm like, I'm very happy with what I'm making.

And I, I still have a lot of time to hang with my family.

Nice.

And it's like, I like, you know, I like being able to mingle with the big-time comics.

I just went to LA, did like a charity show for the Dodgers, and a lot of those guys were in the audience.

And then there are all these other comics on the show with me that I, some that I had opened before in the past, but now I'm kind of on an equal level with.

And yeah, it feels good.

I mean, I love that sort of stuff, but I really like the art of comedy.

What I want is to be able to look back and have a bunch of albums that are really funny.

I want people to be able to, you know, when Wet Heat becomes an album, then I'll have five albums

that I've put out, and I like all of them.

So I just want to be able to keep doing that,

have albums that are good and just tons of comedy that people can watch.

And yeah, I want to make money too, but I don't want to

lose touch.

Right.

I'm with you on that.

I don't think there's any fear of that happening with us here.

But, you know, we have almost a thousand episodes and I was.

maybe

fussing a little bit a couple of months back and with our agent and i was like well we redoing this and be doing he's like Dude, you have almost a thousand episodes.

You've built an incredible thing over there.

You should be damn proud of yourself, regardless if you get invited to this hoobie-doo or that you know, function.

It doesn't really matter.

You've built it, you've done it.

Some things that people will never do, and you have too.

And congratulations, this will be the first and the last time today you're called absolutely delightful by Brian Gray.

Well, you know, that's a thing, though, right?

It's like no matter where we get, we can always find something to go, Oh, I didn't get invited.

We can be mad about not getting invited to something that a year ago, we would go, oh, well, I'll never be invited to that.

And then now we're like, well, yeah, I should be invited to that.

Why am I not?

And I get like that, too.

I mean, you know, you can find yourself in that spot, and that's where you're like, you know, you just put on a little classical.

He did the callback.

He did the callback.

He got it.

I knew you were going to work it in.

Yay.

Dusty Slay's brand new special is available.

He's also out on tour.

You're funny.

You're a technician of comedy.

We've now had two out of three of the Netherlands podcast

gentlemen, guys,

here.

You're welcome back anytime.

I hope we get to do this again.

Yeah, we enjoyed this.

Thank you.

I would love to come.

I mean, I used to come to Atlanta all the time, but now that I am doing theaters, I mean, I don't get to come as much.

I think 2021, I did the punchline three times.

Yeah.

Because they were just, just, you know, they were looking for people that could come from close around.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I used to come to Atlanta.

My wife used to do comedy, and she used to come to Atlanta all the time, too.

And I love it.

Well, next time you're in the area or next time we're up in Nashville, let's connect.

All of the links are in the show notes.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dusty Slay.

Thank you, Dusty.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate you guys.

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Well, there you heard it.

That interview with Dusty Slay is now one of my top five.

I have a running list going on in my head.

Mainly because I can only remember five of the guests that we've had.

No, I agree, though.

That was a great interview.

Okay, now listen.

I don't want you to get any wise ideas about maybe getting a better microphone.

That way we could record remotely because I like you here in the studio.

No, I love being there in the studio.

There's nothing like being in the studio.

It's not not quite the same magic when you're so far away.

But Dusty was fantastic.

I think we all agreed walking out of that interview that it was just a good vibe with Dusty.

He said, I think on two separate occasions, it felt like he was here with us sitting in the room.

And I wish he was here with us sitting in the room.

And hopefully he can do that in

DustySlay.com.

You can listen to him on the very popular Natelyn podcast.

We often bounce back and forth on the charts with each other, although I can guarantee they have more listeners than we do.

He also does a podcast with his wife.

And then Wet Heat, go check it out.

It's his brand new special on Netflix, as well as the tour that is available right now.

So what else is there to say?

An hour of Dusty Slay.

What else to slay, Dusty Slay?

Go, buddy.

He is.

He is.

He's slagging.

So listen, I hadn't seen Wet Heat when we did the interview.

I'd seen like cuts of it, right?

But I hadn't seen it, like promotional reels, but I had not seen it.

And so over the weekend, I couldn't sleep because I was hopped up on very strong antibiotics.

So I watched it and it made me laugh out loud on a number of occasions.

Him and Nate and

and our good friend Aaron, all three of them, working clean and being very good at it.

Like they're very funny.

I didn't miss the fucks or the shits or the dirty jokes or I didn't miss it.

I mean, listen, I still love a good Carlin every once in a while, but I didn't miss it.

It was actually pretty funny.

And

so, it's and you, I think most of the family can watch it.

Anybody 13 and up can go and watch that show.

So, it's PG-13.

That's Brian's rating for it.

PG-13.

That's Brian's rating for it.

PG-13, like, there's 13 kids in the house, and I gotta do something besides watch another fucking episode of Spider-Man.

Spider kids are watching.

You're in the Spider-Verse?

We're in the Spidey-verse.

We're in the Diana, which is like one of these YouTube stars that now is on the Disney Plus channel.

These kids are making billions of dollars, Chris.

Oh my god, I know.

If I had just a little less scruples than I do, which is not meant, then I would be putting my kids to work on YouTube.

Fuck the commercial break.

The kid break.

Like, I'd have them in this studio.

No, you're not eating until you do another take.

They're itching to be in there anyway.

Oh, they are.

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Maybe.

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Let me think about it.

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