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I'm up there.

I was like,

what?

I've been doing this thing where I just never mention my stutter.

So when someone tells me I do,

I react like I didn't know.

There was a guy who came up like, hey, man,

you were stuttering up there.

I was like,

what?

How bad is that?

He was like,

it's pretty bad.

I was like,

this is just the worst news.

You know,

it's hard enough being black.

He was like,

you're not black.

I was like, what?

How bad is that?

On this episode of the Commercial Break.

It's unlike anything I had really ever seen where we all just kind of waited and yet still worked together to just be present for what had to happen.

And

he was dead.

He had no pulse for over five minutes.

I mean, I'm, you know, I'm getting emotional thinking about it because, you know, it's just

how fast and silently, silently everybody's just kind of working.

I mean, it was like you were, it was like an operating table.

I mean, it was genuinely like an operating table where people are just kind of, no fat, there's no fat that's happening in the communication.

It's just, this is what we need.

This is how we're doing it.

It was efficient.

None of these people knew each other.

There were no egos.

There's no identities or anything.

Everybody just kind of put all that aside.

The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now.

Oh, yeah, cats and kittens.

Welcome back to the Commercial Break.

I'm Brian Green.

This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Chris and Joy Hoadley.

Best to you, Chris.

Betsy, Brian.

Best to you out there in the podcast universe.

Thanks for joining us on a TCB Infomercial Tuesday with very popular comedian Drew Lynch.

He is a, I think it, was, did he win AJT?

AJT.

The AJC.

He was a runner-up in season number 10 of America's Got Talent.

Now with over 3 million YouTube subscribers, couple million social media followers.

I don't know how many he has on TikTok because I haven't checked TikTok in two years.

But

he's got a new special.

That's right.

It's called The Stuttering Comedian out on YouTube for free.

And he is, of course, a stand-up comedian.

So that means he's on the Neverending Tour, as most of our guests are.

DrewLynch.com is where you can find more information about tickets.

We'll talk to him all about that.

I will share this with the audience.

I think I may have said this maybe one other time on the commercial break, probably

long ago.

And Chrissy knows this about me.

Some people know this about me.

But one of the reasons why I like Drew, why I feel,

why I felt some kinship with Drew and started paying attention to him, is because he is a stutterer.

And I was a stutterer,

or I am a stutterer.

At times, I stutter, and you will probably hear that on the commercial break.

You might pick up on it now.

But it's a problem I kind of licked as a child through speech therapy and some other things that I can do to kind of calm my brain down a little bit.

I really think that it's because my brain moves so fast, my mouth can't keep up with it.

I, yeah.

I just trip over myself definitely could be the culprit yeah um

but when you are stuttering when you are having a stuttering moment or when you are stuttering as a child it's not an easy thing to deal with it takes it's a lot of stress on the body it's a lot of stress on the mind and then you feel like you want to say something but it's just not coming out quite correctly now my stutter was never as pronounced as Drew's stutter is and Drew has completely different circumstances where mine came about

yeah mine came about when i started speaking and you know my parents noticed at whatever age and i ended up in speech therapy drew got in a terrible softball related accident and that accident caused damage to the left side of his brain i believe and then that caused him to have a stutter as long as some other mental health challenges and just some general neurological stuff drew has been very open about this and i think that probably is the reason not only is he funny but also i think part of the reason why he's become so popular is because he's been very honest and refreshingly open about it.

I know I love that.

I do too.

I think it takes a really brave human to kind of pull.

I mean, the other thing about a stutter.

Well, in this world of making everything perfect.

That's right.

You're right about that.

Yeah.

And the thing about a stutter is it's hard to cover up, especially when you have a bad one, when it's very pronounced.

It's hard to cover up.

And the more that it happens, the more you start tripping over yourself, the more stress you get involved in, the more your brain doesn't want to cooperate with your mouth.

That's very that must be very difficult.

But in this time of trying to make everything pretty and perfect, exactly all the social media.

I mean, yeah, and you know, occasionally I'll see like a bathing suit model with like you know, a birthmark on her butt, and she'll be like, I want to show everybody that life is real.

It's like, okay, you have a birthmark on you, but it fucking cares.

Yeah, you know, I appreciate that you're coming out, honestly, but then the 7,000 other photographs are perfectly manicured photographs of you in front of a palm tree.

That's not what I'm I'm talking about.

Drew puts it all out there.

It's like, you know, refreshingly out there.

And I hope we get some of that today when we talk to him.

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There's something called show notes in case you don't know.

They're right under the show.

They're notes.

And I put links in there there for you to go check out the shit that we're doing or our guests are doing.

And Drew is one of those people.

And I want to ask him.

uh right off the bat we'll go right into it because he had something very interesting happen to him in one of his more recent shows a man had a heart attack

and it really seemed to affect drew emotionally he got emotional about it on a reel so go check out his instagram you can uh maybe during the commercial break listen to the commercials while you're watching instagram and you could catch up on this story at drew lynch and And then there you go.

So, why don't we do this, Chrissy?

Why don't we take a short break, just a little break, a little baby, a tiny break, as my daughter would say, tiny, a tiny break.

And then, when we get back through the magic of telepodcasting right here on this television with us, Drew Lynch, what do you think?

I think we should do it.

Okay, we'll be back with Drew.

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The very funny Drew Lynch here with us now, Chrissy, on the telepodcasting machine.

Drew, thank you very much for being here.

We really appreciate it.

Thanks, guys.

Yeah.

I want to start off, maybe on a little bit more of a serious note, but I want to throw this out there.

A couple of days ago, you had something that happened at one of your shows.

A man had a heart attack, I believe.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In Spokane, Washington.

And I have been following you on socials for a while, and I saw a video come up, and I thought, oh, here he's going to do, you know, here it comes funny coming in hot with something funny.

And then it was very serious, and you were very,

it seemed like very touched by the moment when the man, I guess, had a heart attack, and people around him gathered together to make sure that he survived the incident.

But then you went to the hospital and spent some time with him.

Yeah.

Well, yeah, I would love to be able to get into it.

And honestly, anytime we can start a podcast sad, I'm always a fan.

Yeah, man.

It gives us a lot of people.

We don't even know, Drew.

This is pretty

pretty standard fare for Brian.

Yeah.

Ram Das later on.

Yeah, most of my podcasts are really like just bummers.

And people are into it.

People are like, I love it.

It's so edgy.

It's different.

He's not funny at all.

I really like that type of not funny comedian.

Drew just saves lives for a living.

That's what he is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm actually just better.

I'm a healer with my body and mind.

That's what I do.

I'm just, I'm one of my favorite things.

I'm so good.

I'm so good.

I don't even need comedy.

That's how good I am at it.

Okay.

Yeah.

So, well,

yeah, well, first of all, it was something that,

you know, coming off of the past, I guess, week or two, I mean, tensions everywhere with everything, how upset everyone has been.

And it's not even a thing like, I, I mean,

you just like,

it was really like last week, kind of the news of last week,

compounded news from last week, multiple things happening rolling into just this, this, this weekend.

And you're like, you know, I mean, I, what i was on i was maybe on my on stage for maybe 12 maybe 12 15 minutes or so and and um there was a lady who from across the room kind of made a beeline towards the other side of the room to kind of help this guy and then and and and and you just kind of everything's just very slow motion in that time you're not really able to process everything as as fast you're just kind of like oh she's out she's she's she's leaving and you're like no she's she's tending to a guy wait how does she know that guy and then then you're like, what's going on with the guy?

And then he's on the floor.

And people are all of a sudden, like, when you watch people like just kind of react and then just continue to react as the stakes get higher and higher, as everyone else is realizing what's happening, it's a very like

shocking thing.

It's very shocking.

And so he had a heart attack.

And that was what someone had communicated

to me.

And in no time at all, like just the crowd didn't know every person in the audience, just they didn't hesitate at all to understand what needed to happen.

And so

in that

interim, people just kind of fell into roles of like people moved furniture.

There were some, there were medical professionals and nurses just in the area who took took turns doing, taking compressions on this guy, doing CPR, monitoring his vitals.

People got immediately, someone called

paramedics.

Then someone was parked outright right where the paramedics could show up.

And so I'm making announcements to like, to have someone clear the car and

move the car.

And

it's unlike anything I had really ever seen where we all just kind of waited and yet still worked together to just be present for what had to happen.

And

he was dead.

He had no pulse for over five minutes.

I mean,

I'm getting emotional thinking about it because,

you know, it's just

how fast and silently, silently, everybody's just kind of working.

I mean, it was like you were, it was like an operating table.

Yeah, I mean, it was genuinely like an operating table where people are just kind of no fat, and there's no fat that's happening in the communication.

It's just, this is what we need, this is how we're doing it.

It was efficient.

None of these people knew each other.

There was no egos.

There's no, there's no identities or anything.

Everybody just kind of put all that aside.

And so when they revived him prior to the paramedics even arriving,

it was one of the just most like, I guess, just awe-inspired things I've ever been able to witness, just the beauty of a community and a mechanism kind of,

you know, just coming together, you know, to achieve this.

And

so his family told me, like, he left his walker there.

He needed a walker, and he obviously left his walker because he left with the paramedics.

And so

the club gave me the contact of his of his granddaughter.

And

so I was like, okay, they were like,

she's going to come by and grab the walker tomorrow.

And I was like, no, no, no, no.

Like, I'll bring him the walker.

I would love to be able to go visit him in the hospital and, you know, finish the, finish the, like, finish the show or just cheer him up, you know, anyway.

So, so, so, you know, the, the,

I, I, I asked, They gave me her number.

I said, I would love to be able to sign his walker.

So I'll sign it.

And can you just tell me his name?

And I'll sign it and bring it to him tomorrow.

And then she texted me and said, Oh, he would love that.

His name is Dick.

And I, and you know, normally under the circumstances, like if you're in a meet and greet line or something like this didn't happen tonight, you're like, ah, that's silly.

I'll make a funny thing.

And it'll be, you know, whatever.

But under the circumstances, I can't be like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, I, I love you, Dick, you know, in the droolt, like, you know, to my, to my dearest dick, you know, my second favorite dick.

Like, you know,

it like, you know, it's like, you know, it's just so, so I just signed it and then, you know, we brought it to the, we brought it to the hospital and

my two openers, my funny friends, came with me to also be there, and the family was there.

And we were just in the hospital for just hours, just hanging out with him.

And I'm sorry I took so long to tell this

whole story.

It's a whole story.

And so

it was just beautiful.

And as it pertains to how things have been happening in in the world, it just kind of

re-invited the idea of hope,

kind of just knowing that, all right, who cares however people feel?

And people who come see me, they come from all different types of backgrounds.

Like there's not any one type.

So the fact that everybody just kind of put all that together just for humanity's sake was very, very special to witness.

I think two things that I took away from the series of videos that you put out over the last couple of days, because very similar to the one, the story that you just told, is that we look at all the tragedy around us and the heartbreak and the terrible things that are happening.

And bad news sells, so that's what they lead with, and that's what we hear, and that's their job.

And that, you know, they, whatever, that's a business.

But what we don't see in all of that, oftentimes, what gets missed in those stories, the school shooting or the shooting or whatever happens, is that there are little moments of absolute

sovereignty to the human beings that are having that tragedy as we just, that's just how we're built.

And

I worked in the restaurant business when multiple people had heart attacks.

I've seen bad car accidents where people, maybe myself included, jumped in without speaking to each other to just do what needed to be done because we, I think somewhere in the back of our heads, that's how we're built.

But I also think somewhere in the back of our heads, we pray or meditate or whatever it is that someone else would do that for us if that was our moment or our tragedy.

But then you took it the extra step and literally went to the hospital and finished your show, which I thought was a very beautiful thing to do.

And I know you're not doing that to look for accolades, but I will say that it was very touching to see you up there

having fun with this guy.

Well, thanks.

Yeah, he, I mean, he's just a special person.

Like, I text the family every day since I would like, I want updates.

Like, they've got a trip planned to Montana and he's going to he's going he's got trip he's got plans to go to to to Maui and he's been a speech therapist for you know for for 50 years and in his in his community you know yeah yeah so so like you know that was how that was why he was there to see me is like you know I have had a history of stuttering and he's somebody who's like you know like just once he's just a he is just a person that just invites like just like warmth and help and support.

Like, you just meet people that are just really special people.

And he was just

like, I was there to just kind of hear and learn more about him and really just kind of confront him to see if he just pretended to die to get out of listening to the rest of my set, which is not uncommon for me.

It's not uncommon.

It happens in the history of the world.

I hate this all the time.

Sorry, I'm dead.

Yeah.

And he committed too.

And I was like, this hospital bill is going to be exorbitant.

But if that's how much you hated my show, just tell me.

Wow.

You, and, and, you know,

you are,

have

been very open.

Obviously, you, you were on AGT.

You've been very open.

And I think,

to your credit, about your stutter and your speech issues.

I also was a stutterer as a child.

I think that's probably why I enjoy your comedy and I'm, I, I have a connection there.

There's a, you know, we share something in common there, the struggle, my, mine, not, I think, as pronounced as yours, but I guess it doesn't matter at the end of the day.

Everyone's struggle is relative.

But you have leaned into this and you have really, I think, probably, do you?

Here's my question.

Do you get a lot of people that come up to you that go to your shows and they have similar issues or they're dealing with something and they say, because you're doing it, now I'm not afraid to do this?

Yeah, I think it happens, I mean, almost, I mean, almost every place I'm at.

I mean, it's, it's, it's, um,

and it's not just about the thing itself.

It's about the fact that, I mean, kind of to the same degree of how we even started this podcast, it's like, it's about the adversity that anybody has underneath.

Like, it's, it's, there's, we all have something.

Everybody has something.

And if it's a, if it's a, if, how, if you're financially like

debilitated or you're, you're, you're, or you're, you're, you're, you, relationally, or, or with your family, or, or something physically, or

mentally or socially.

There's always just something.

So it's it's and and and and you know the the the idea that I think I

uh I always want to be um I always want to be upfront.

I always want to be transparent about whatever's going on with me about what issues it is that I'm that I'm having and not to do not to say as woe is me, but just to show you that I'm human.

And

there's just for whatever reason, reason, that's actually been one of the things that's helped me the most about stuttering is just by saying, like, I'm afraid.

I'm afraid right now.

I'm scared.

I'm scared that you're judging me.

I'm scared that you think that I'm not going to, like, that this isn't going to go good.

Or I'm scared that you think that

I'm a fraud.

Or I'm scared that you think that

I can't come back from this.

Or that you think this is my whole identity.

Or, or that, that

I'm, that my problems don't, that pale in comparison to maybe something that you're going through.

Even when I did America's Got Talent, like, I was receiving messages from people who were like, hey, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm in my, you know, my fifth round of chemo right now, and I, I don't know what, I don't have a whole lot of time, but I'm, I'm, and I'm yucking out, I'm yucking out the, you know,

the rounds of chemo here in the hospital, but I'm watching you, and I can't wait to see you next week.

And, like, this type of stuff just, you know, it, it makes it not about you at all.

And that that is a healthy reminder because I, I, you know, eat the, like I struggle with ego of just being like, well, how about, like, well, how about for me?

Like, what, I mean, am I enough?

And what about, how does this apply for how I'm doing?

And can, can, can it, can it elevate what I'm doing in a way?

And like, even how it happened with Spokane this past weekend, it's just a healthy reminder that actually.

The best part of things is oftentimes when it has nothing to do with you.

It has nothing about you.

It's, it's, it's, It's about what it is that

you can offer or what can be offered and has nothing to do with you.

So

I think just trying to trying to connect to people, even to, you know,

relating to somebody who also stutters, but just relating to somebody who, you know, could be embarrassed or ashamed or angry or has or has grief or feels remiss.

Like, these are all things that come with the feelings of when you're when you're dealing with adversity.

So on a very real level um you know comedy kind of is is is there to just uh

uh escape or help or support or relate to

yeah you gave me chills when you said i'm scared right like i'm scared because i think that if we all

were brave enough at times to just call that out, I'm scared.

I'm scared of whatever it is, right?

I'm scared of getting hurt.

I'm scared of failing.

I'm scared of, you're judging me.

I'm scared of, if we were a little bit more vulnerable in that way to each other and just to the world in general, maybe the world would be just a little bit of a softer place than it is right now.

Everyone's got pointy elbows, and you know, I'm tough and I'm bad, I'm this and I'm that.

But you just said something like it literally gave me chills.

I'm scared.

That it's okay to be scared.

Everybody's fucking scared.

Everybody's scared.

I'm scared to interview Drew Lynch.

I'll say it.

And he called it out.

We're financially debilitated, Chrissy.

We are financially debilitated.

I know.

Two for two.

And I am a scary guy.

And I want that to be the narrative.

I'm formidable.

Where did you

what

it comedy?

Where does that like are you always looking for the joke?

Are you when you were a kid?

Were you like always looking for the funny somewhere?

Um,

I think my family is just, I think my family's really funny.

I think my sister is just so funny.

Like, I mean, she doesn't,

she's just like a, like, my family is just very

subdued, sort of Midwest, kind of just thrown away, just thrown away type comments, you know, just things that it's like, if you hear it and

you process it, it was like, oh, that was a very funny thing that nobody maybe heard or nobody really said, you know, that's just kind of how my family always was.

And

so I never wanted to do stand-up.

I grew up studying acting and I went to performing arts schools all growing up and I met I

read

plays just

like a mad person when I was a kid because I was just so passionate about dialogue.

And I actually prefer plays to books because you're just, you're able to, you know, fill in the, you're just given the dialogue and you're able to fill in whatever else needs to happen.

Like it's just,

there's something so

there's just something so quick about just this, this, this, this, this, and

building like conflict.

And maybe that has some sort of influence on me ending up doing stand-up.

But, you know,

I had a softball injury when I was 20, as you know, Brian.

And

it

messed up those softball injuries.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

And

it messed with my speech and my motor skills

on the left side of my body.

And I couldn't get hired as an actor anymore when I was out here in my first year in LA.

And so that was what kind of turned me to

start doing stand-up.

I still loved performing.

I just couldn't couldn't I just didn't have the opportunity to anymore.

And stand-up really offers the the

it really offers that for you to be able to kind of control as much as you as much as you can from the writing and performing standpoint.

Were you like a David Mamet kind of

is that the kind of

I read it I mean I read it all yeah I read I read yeah I read it all I read Mammet I read Tennessee Williams I read Neil Simon I love Neil Simon's plays

You know,

Neil LaButte.

He's going to be Martin.

Yeah,

Martin McDonough.

I mean, I just, I read it all.

So, you know, these are all things that

I just, and I still love it.

And

I still, you know, love getting to act

whenever I can.

Now you are an incredibly popular comedian.

You're traveling.

I imagine the world.

And like you you said,

this is not your intention.

This isn't where you started, but you

are obviously naturally funny.

You're very gifted and talented comedian.

Do you love the grind of being out there and traveling and the audience?

And I'm sure the stage part everybody loves, right?

That hour that you're out there absorbing and interacting.

I'm sure that is always.

the zenith.

But do you like being a stand-up comedian, kind of the journeyman part of it?

Yeah.

First of all, I love when anybody can casually use the word zenith

and just think that we weren't going to acknowledge it.

Because, see, that was nuts that you and I just weren't going to let Brian just say it.

Oh, that's why Chrissy sits next to me is because I often will misuse big words and Chrissy just lets it fly and then the audience calls it out later.

Can we actually, can we actually cut to commercial on the commercial credit?

Can we go

somewhere else and then come back?

Because that's not sponsors on this episode.

So, okay,

yeah,

financially crippled once again.

We're all dealing with something.

So,

you know, I the the

the any comic will tell you that the the the grind of of like the grind of of going to do the thing I mean I is really

it can really grate on you and you have to

um like I can't I know I know I know howie Howie Mandel he once he want told he once, once, once told me, he was like, he, you know, he was like, it's like, I don't know, I don't even want to know my plans, my travel plans until the day of, like, all of his team books it and lets him know you're going there like that that morning or

the night before.

So he doesn't have to, yeah, so he doesn't have to like stress or worry or try to plan or try to, like, that type of stuff is stuff that I completely understand

because

you're really paying us to leave.

That's what you're doing.

That's what you're paying for.

We'll perform anywhere.

But you're paying us, it's the travel part

that is just such the hassle.

So

I've abused my own

time

and taking advantage of my own work ethic in a way where I don't hold myself accountable for

the balance that's needed for the for the play and the fun and the living and all of that has been something I've only learned to manage better

maybe more recently.

I just,

when I first started, I was so hell-bent on trying to do anything to validate my own

feelings or success to try to make sense of this injury that

I just worked myself to death.

And I completely dismissed the idea that I maybe needed to do some things for my soul or take away to relax.

So it's, I think there's the common, this common misconception that comedy is just all, it's all fun.

It's all silly.

And we're all just, and it's like, I mean, some of us are that way.

But now, and especially in the fast-paced climate of social media and using it as a tool and algorithms and branding and all this, like, you have to be, you have to have many hats, you have to have many hyphens, and you have to be able to do so many other so much more than just what it was 20 years ago where it was like i sit and i write and i go up and what do you want you know like so so it's it's it's just this this idea of holding your your any entrepreneur probably already has knows this or has to come to realize this if you don't discipline yourself to shut your brain off,

you're gonna, you're gonna completely, you're gonna completely run yourself into the ground by just by having your brain be a very abusive

employer to your own self.

And that's the problem.

I think I'm a really good employee.

I think I'm a terrible employer.

What are some of the things you do to kind of tune out or play?

Do you watch the housewives?

Do you ground?

We were talking about grounding earlier.

Do you ground?

You take your socks off.

A lot of the both of those at the same time, honestly, Chrissy.

It's the housewives and then the socks are off.

You get a Chardonnay in my hand.

I'm a sassy bitch.

It's a bubble bath with the TV just a little bit too close in case I decide to come around.

That's it.

That's it.

Yeah, you got the iron going too.

You're like, man.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've done a lot of,

I've tried a lot of different

holistic modalities and approaches.

We're all kind of in the process of

healing or finding a thing that mushrooms.

A room cacao ceremony with a Peruvian shaman.

That's it.

Let's dance over the fire.

I just

got back last week.

Yes, you did.

Did you?

Did you do that?

I did.

Yeah, yeah.

It's not my first.

This is not my first rodeo with this, too.

I mean, Iowa did the whole nine yards.

How do you feel?

How do you feel?

I felt like this one was very, I'll put it this way.

It was a very gentle experience, but

this was truly not Peruvian.

She was Guatemalan, like a Mayan, an actual Mayan, which I learned that the Aztecs are a dead culture, but the Mayans are an alive culture.

They very much still celebrate it at the pyramids.

They're allowed to go there.

They do their ceremonies.

They're still very active.

And she came and blessed us all with a mushroom cacao ceremony.

And I will say it was a gentle experience as these things go, but you always learn.

something and we were in a larger group of people and just like the sharing the experience and everyone kind of

letting out what they were dealing with at that moment, you then again, it brings you closer to your own humanity.

You know, it's kind of like the wizard of Oz and walking the yellow brick road, I think, is the way I explained it at the end of the night.

But of course, then I just did a mushroom cacao ceremony.

But I said, listening to everybody else, you know, I got strength.

I got strength like the tin man.

I got the heart and I got the brain from the other folks around me sharing with their struggles and what they needed.

And, you know, and I've done a number of these things in the past, a lot of them in the past.

And so, you know, I can see the hokeiness in it, but then I also always take something away from it.

There's nothing hokey about it.

And I appreciate the history that you just shared about the difference between Aztecs and Mayans.

I didn't know that.

Although, I, I, I, yeah, I, I've, I watched the road to El Dorado about once a year, just to kind of bro, just to kind of brush up.

So I also, I already feel like I already kind of knew what you said, anyway.

Um,

um, it's a but

historically accurate,

you know, it's a zenith.

Anyway,

it's a zenith.

That's really what it is.

The Mayans and the Aztecs.

They're the zenith.

To answer your question, Chrissy,

I was fascinated with the psychedelics of it all because last year was the first time I did.

I had an experience.

I had a psychedelics experience.

I was

in the kitchen back

home

with my brother.

And he and I, interestingly enough, we had been reading the same books, but unbeknownst to each other, which I always find to be so interesting.

And

my dad, he was diagnosed with stage four brain cancer sometime late last year.

And I only bring that up to say, you know, like, you know, it put into perspective just a little bit of, you know, what, what am I doing with my life?

That's, that, that's, that's, what am I clinging to?

You know, my, my, my dad's, you know,

he has always had just a struggle in his relationship with control.

I know my brother's the same way.

I feel like I'm the same way.

And psychedelics are pretty much the ultimate kind of like there's

you don't have yeah, yeah, you don't exactly.

You don't have yeah, you don't have any control.

And so the idea that it was

the idea that my brother was kind of hovering around

this same concept of maybe wanting to do something like that.

And then me also doing that, but unbeknownst to, but also doing our own research, but unbeknownst to each other, we kind of agreed, we kind of agreed that night that

we would try something together.

And so there was, you know, he said, have you ever, yeah, he said, have you ever heard of, you know, DMT and MDMT,

you know?

And I was like, yeah, I mean, I, I, yeah, I mean, I have.

Of course, it's terrifying.

You know,

you jumped over

every avenue on the Monopoly board and went straight to go.

That is the most intense psychedelic hallucinogen that you could possibly do.

Oh, it's, I mean, I mean, I'll be, I'll be, we've already been as candid as we have up to this point.

So I'll be completely honest.

I, it was either between, um, doing s it was between quitting comedy or quitting life

or this.

Um, that's how much,

and that's, and that's, there's, there's no, uh, that's like a, um, that was almost like a kid way of saying that, but there, I mean, I was, uh

I was just, yeah, I was just at a place where I was like, I, I just, I can't, I just, I can't, I can't do this anymore.

And something else needs to change.

And that, I think, would, would speak to how, how desperate I was because the idea of relinquishing control in a way that it meant that I would have to completely throw myself into the most uncontrolled where you have nothing, you know,

is absolutely, like,

absolutely indicative of what it was like going through that at that time.

So

we found a shaman and we did the experience.

IOS

or DMT.

DMT.

And

then I went back and did it a month later, which you're not really supposed to do.

And then a week later, after that second experience,

I did a large dose of shrooms.

And

it's probably a conversation for maybe another time, but quite a few things came came came to came to light for,

I guess, lack of a better term and um it just it it changed everything about how i uh how i felt about myself how i felt about my relationship to stuttering i know my my speech improved even that much

in the between the two times that i did dmt my stutter came back in such a way that it was like i mean it it it almost like it set me back in such a way like i was having full like body kind of things my head would kind of like just go back and i i i couldn't i couldn't control it because i had spent years

trying to suppress once again, like even though my speech was getting better over the years, I was suppressing the idea that I needed to get it to be said in an exact certain way and control it and doing so much tension in my body and in my face and in my mind, evaluating how everybody was feeling about it all the time.

And this medicine basically showed me like, you know, like,

I'm going to take that away from you.

I'm going to have this medicine come all the way through through your body

and break you all the way back down to where you were years ago and show you that

you can't care about any of that.

And that's that's and Brian, you probably already have known this maybe in your own

experiences, but the relationship to stuttering is so, is such a, is such a like snake eating itself because it's like, the more you try to control it, it's like the worse it gets.

And

it's like the more you try to think about it,

you can't think your way out of a situation where your brain is the culprit.

So you have to, it's like Chinese finger trap.

You have to almost like relinquish that control somehow in order for it to get better.

And

so that was something that those three experiences really taught me.

And

it does just wonders for anybody who's at that, who's

at that crossroads.

We're definitely believers.

I'm a believer fully.

it and my relationship with stuttering you know a lot of speech therapy when i was a kid it comes out occasionally thinking about having a stutterer on the show freaks me out because then i feel like somewhere in my brain it's going to come out it's a weird thing that I don't feel often, but when I feel it, I get fearful.

And just like you said, then it becomes about control, controlling the mind, controlling the mouth, controlling

just the breathing.

But ayahuasca, which is the active ingredient DMT, is in ayahuasca, being in that ceremony,

there is no explanation in words that could ever, that I could ever share with anybody who's never done it to tell them what it's all about.

All I can say is you die a million deaths and they're all ego-driven.

You're completely out of control.

You're out of body.

You are in another universe and something else is in control.

Some call it the, you know, some call it the God psychedelic, right?

Because you're essentially you're touching the face of God in a way that is just amazing.

There is lessons in all of it.

And some of those lessons seem like they set, in my experience, seem like they set you back, but then with some perspective, you understand.

It's just showing you that you're not in control.

You're not in control.

You're here.

You're experiencing.

You're the witness, but you're not in control.

And that is fucking okay.

That is okay.

I think it all goes back to what you said earlier.

It's okay to be scared.

It's okay.

It's okay to be fearful.

It's okay to have, you know, to just share that.

I didn't know this about you, Drew, but I really appreciate where you're coming from with that.

And I appreciate how big your balls must be to go from no psychedelic experience straight to DMT.

That's fucking intense.

That is fucking intense.

Yeah, I mean, well, you, I mean, maybe that's the way to start, though.

Yeah, maybe you should.

Because

if you didn't know, like, what it maybe could do, then

exactly.

Exactly.

If, if you go, yeah, exactly.

If you go, if you do it right, like, you know, it's like a, it's like a hangnail.

It's like, you know, like, get it all the way off.

You know what I mean?

Get it all the way.

Don't quick.

Don't continue to just kind of gnaw at it and let it like whatever, you know?

So it is, yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was kind of exactly just the, the thing.

And I had tried micro-dosing before, and you're like, ooh, the ground, I think, moves a little.

Right.

You know, but I don't, I don't, I don't need the ground to move a little.

I need to figure out.

Yeah, that wasn't digging into the brain.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You didn't touch the face of God with microdosing.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You gotta touch grass.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I was probably rolling around like a

wild monkey in my eyes.

Yeah, I think, yeah, I think I need a little more than, ooh, this, like, I really feel this blanket.

I really feel this blanket.

It's too soft.

Yeah.

In the UK,

they stay away from usually very heavy narcotic painkillers, and they have for many years.

So their

go-to is ketamine.

Someone comes in with a compound fracture.

I mean, I think they do this now in the U.S., but their go-to is ketamine.

And I don't know why, but the algorithm keeps serving me up these videos of these guys and girls who are in the hospital, some kind of major problem, and the doctors are giving them ketamine.

And you just watch them as their complete soul leaves their body in the weirdest of ways.

And it reminds me of being in the room with ever, you know, all these people when we were doing ayahuasca.

It's just a while, it's a wild experience, but one I'm better for.

I would never, I'm so grateful that I ended up in the path of doing that because it did show me some things that I can't explain and you can't take away from me either.

So

you,

yeah,

I like you even more now, Drew.

So we're best friends.

But what's up with the banana?

Yeah, sure.

We'll get right to the

subject.

No, no, no, no.

I think we're getting down to the stuff that matters here.

Like,

that was all filler and I was getting kind of sick of it, honestly.

Yeah, who cares about it?

When are we going to get to the meat and potatoes?

Oh, my God.

Philosophy, life or death, existentialism.

What are we talking about?

Yeah, who cares?

What are we talking about?

Let's balance some things out with some Nana talk.

So, well,

had,

I designed this podcast studio with a, with a, with a buddy of mine, and

we, like, we were like,

like, so

there for me, the, saying,

saying

banana has always been just a very difficult word for me for whatever reason.

So I always say, like, nanas, like, I always say, like, yeah, can I get a banana?

Like, even if I'm at like a smoothie place, you know, or you can, like, build your own or whatever.

I'll get whey, I'll get some ginger,

some kiwi, and you can throw, you can throw some nanas in there.

So I don't know.

I think people think that, yeah i think people think that i'm just i don't know maybe i think people think i just i'm like i'm very i'm just progress i'm like i'm on the streets you know i know i have my ear to the ground you know what i mean i'm in with the small children

yeah

yeah

so um so that was kind of the that was kind of the design of that one and then i actually have i have another i have another chair here this is a softball um because i have a softball injury

yeah so i had a softball injury and there's that's my that's my dog with her headphones on it was a it was a stuffed animal um so

so yeah, that was that was kind of out.

And it's the most expensive thing in the studio.

Like, equip, equipment included, sign included,

the Nana is literally the most expensive thing.

It's always the fucking chairs.

These fucking chairs, too.

They're so expensive.

Everything in this studio, I could probably hawk for $180.

But the chairs

are bought for like $12,000.

But they are comfortable.

I will say, but they are, and you can swivel too.

You know what I'm saying?

Chrissy drops some knowledge, and

I can't do that.

I know, I cripp my neck.

If I have a guest on, I have to.

Yeah, yeah.

Do people come to your home?

Do they go to you?

They come right to my home.

They do.

I give out my address freely.

I wouldn't do that.

Yeah, I just wouldn't do that.

Even for famous people.

Maybe for you, Drew, but not for other people.

I mean, you know,

I would never get through Atlanta traffic to come see you, just so you know.

And if you knew where I live in proportion to regular Atlanta traffic, you would never show up at my home.

An hour and a half every day.

Every day?

Well, every day we record.

Yeah, yeah.

Every day we record.

Man, that's.

I know.

I'm a little bit of a selfish asshole in that way.

I said, let's build a studio.

I know.

Let's get you some more ayahuasca, Brian.

Like, this is not you, man.

I know, but I have the kids.

So, you know, it's like everything in life.

When you have the kids, they come to you.

There's an old saying, when you have the kids, they come to you.

That's it.

Ram Doss?

Ram Doss said that.

Ram Doss.

Oh my God.

Ram Das is laying him down this episode.

We had this guest on, and I quoted Ram Das in this very serious moment.

I mean, Chrissy couldn't stop laughing.

I can keep it together.

She's like, are you quoting Ram Das?

Drew has a new hour of material that is out on YouTube.

Yes, for free.

Yeah, for free.

The stuttering comedian.

And that is, you can just go Google that, or I'll put a link down in the show notes.

He's also, I imagine on the never-ending tour, do you have like tour dates way out into the future?

Way out, yeah, and yeah, they're not in, they're not in the past anymore.

I've already done them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, they're not.

You don't know about them.

Yeah, that's right.

I'm adopted.

Yeah, we'll just tell you.

I wish, I wish I could pay people to just kidnap me and make me perform.

It's a dream, you know?

Nothing like performing under duress.

I know, I know.

Just to be back in Juarez, Mexico.

That's all I want.

So,

yeah, I have, so I do, I tour pretty heavy from the fall to the to the spring.

Um,

um, and I'm going like all over the place.

It's, uh, it's, it's kind of nice to be able to work so much through those months.

And then the summer months, I just, I, I, I take about three months off.

Like, I remember, I remember, like, you know, when you're, when you're growing up and you, and you, you know, you're out of school for three months, like, there's, like, the best three three like you just have this such a beautiful feeling of just like i have i have three months to just be a person i can just i can really just be a kid i can i can play games i can call friends i can i can go do things socially and so for whatever reason the

Those two compartments of like, okay, I've got whatever, nine months of work and work hard, and then and then, you know, three months of play, it's, and it's just kind of it's nostalgic and it just, it, it, it revitalizes me.

And if you're in a place or a position where you can create your own schedule, like I'm very, very lucky to be able to do that.

And then

the last hour for

the stuttering comedian special that I just did

was

it was basically just kind of like, let me put every answer to any question someone might have about my experience with stuttering, my

history of how it came to be for me, the process of me rehabilitating it as it as it relates to my mental health, what it does, you know,

what it does for, you know, like my relationship to my career.

I mean, there's a lot of things that it's all just, I just all wanted it to be in one place, and then that way I can get a little bit of closure on that being something that I don't have to have, you know,

just kind of dictate any

sort of feelings or insecurities or projections anymore.

I love that.

I will say this, and I know that as

after now, I know a little bit of your experience.

This is probably not what you're looking for, but I find you to be an extremely brave human being and

a very funny one and a very self-aware person.

So, you are adding a little light to this universe that needs it.

And

I've been a fan of yours for a while.

I continue to be a fan of yours.

If you make it to Atlanta, when you make it to Atlanta, not here, because I won't allow you to my house, but we have a studio where we record with people in person.

And I invite you to come sit with us.

I would love to.

I actually, I think I'll be in Atlanta, I think, sometime coming up, actually.

Let me do a

quick search.

Oh, I'd love that.

Oh, that would be fantastic.

Oh, look at that.

And then we can actually book our calendars while we're recording.

Yeah.

Yeah,

If you wouldn't mind just telling the audience to just sit tight.

All right.

We've got some one second.

We've got important stuff coming up.

We've got to plan our next

ayahuasca experiment here.

I know.

I know.

I'm going to bring ayahuasca brownies.

Ayahuasca brownies is so crazy.

I can't take on the calories.

I'll just do it right from the soup.

I'll do the tea one.

I know it's coming up.

It got rescheduled, so I know it's coming up at some point.

So I'll be up in a film.

We will coordinate.

We'll have our people call your people.

Drew Lynch.

Very funny.

You find all of his links in the show notes.

Drew, it's been a pleasure meeting you too.

Thanks for coming on.

We really appreciate it.

Thank you guys.

Thank you guys so much.

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See, Brian, that really wasn't that difficult now, was it?

You're welcome.

What a refreshingly honest conversation.

That was a lot of fun.

Yeah, that was a lot of fun.

I mean, we kind of went places I didn't think we'd go, and I loved it.

Well, I mean, I think it's kind of becoming par for the the course with the commercial break that the comedians come on and they're like, you know, funny, funny, haha.

And then we're like, so tell us about your deepest, darkest secret.

Have you ever heard of Ram Das?

He is the zenith of all self-help gurus.

Zenith.

Yes.

I love you picked up on that.

Yeah, because the other thing is that even though even this incredibly kind of,

you know, introspective conversation, he was throwing in one liner.

He was picking up on stuff quick.

And you can tell that while he may still suffer at times from the stuttering or neurological damage from his accident,

if that's him with neurological damage, he's probably super fucking smart.

That kid is probably super fucking fast and smart.

And so

I enjoyed that.

I did too.

I really did.

I really hope that we get a chance to follow up with that in in-person interviews so that I can show off all my fancy words right.

sitting across from him.

That's true.

Because my ego tells me it's necessary.

Maybe I'll have to sharpen up on a couple of ayahuasca medicine ceremonies before I go.

Yeah, Drew, and I can talk.

Straight to DMT.

I couldn't believe it.

My mouth was in the middle.

Yeah, I felt your energy over there when he said that.

You're like, what?

Go to youtube.com slash the commercial break and look at my face when he's saying that.

I am just like, what?

Maybe because I started off.

LSD, which is not the softest of drugs.

And by the way, the first time I ever did LSD, I did five hits at one time because there was no instruction manual.

And the guy who sold it to me sold it to me in a five strip.

And I just said, okay,

that's what I do.

Yeah.

And he just told me, put it in your mouth and suck on it.

And I was like, oh, okay.

There you go.

He forgot to tell me to rip them into little squares and put one at a time.

So I had an intense experience my first time, but it wasn't because I wanted to.

It was because, but of course, the first time is always fun.

You know, it's like, woohoo, colors and pretty swirls and look at the TV and I hearing things.

Music sounds sounds great.

But by any stretch of the imagination, going even from LSD to DMT is like a holy shit.

It's just two different words.

It's just, it's, I don't even know how to explain it.

It's like the difference between Tylenol and a morphine drip.

There's no comparison whatsoever.

They're both intense.

So anyway, you got a lesson in hallucinogenic.

I like that he just went ahead and dove in.

Yeah, hey, listen, but sounds like he was in a point of desperation.

Yeah.

Like,

it's either this or it's that, and I'm gonna do this and hope that it works.

And it did.

And we're all the better for it.

So there you go.

Yeah, I'm fine with them canceling Atlanta for that rescheduling.

And maybe he canceled Atlanta so he could come back and sit face to face with us.

Exactly.

That's just the way the world works, kids.

It's a weird, wacky, wild universe.

She is a finicky bitch, and she does whatever she wants to.

You're out of control.

That's the moral of the story.

Enjoy it while you can.

It's just a flutter through this reality.

But I guess we don't all share the same reality, but you know, hey, listen, whatever.

Anyway.

DrewLynch.com, the stuttering comedian on YouTube and all of his socials available down in the show notes and the links below.

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We certainly enjoyed having him here.

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