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Speaker 2 Best to you out there in the podcast universe. How the hell are you? Thanks for joining us on a TCB Infomercial Tuesday as yet another repeat customer comes to the commercial break.

Speaker 2 And I could not be more excited to invite our friend Joanna House. I love her.

Speaker 5 I'm back again. I'm so happy she's back.

Speaker 2 She's one of our first interviews.

Speaker 5 Do you remember this?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do because Astrid was very excited about it.

Speaker 2 Astrid turned us on to Joanna and her comedy online. And then we quickly...

Speaker 2 It quickly devolved into a love affair about tequenos and cachapas and

Speaker 2 Venezuelan parties and birthday songs that last too long. And Disney.

Speaker 5 That's right.

Speaker 2 And Disney.

Speaker 2 Joanna had a show on Disney. It's still available on Disney Plus, I think.
But now the big news is that Joanna has been writing and part of the creative team behind the return of Phineas and Ferb.

Speaker 2 That is the big news around Joanna. I think she's got other things in the work she may or may not be able to talk about.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 2 my oldest just became infatuated with Phineas and Ferb over the last six months. Yeah.
And I can't tell you how many of those episodes I've watched.

Speaker 2 And I got to be honest, I missed the Phineas and Ferb boat the first time around because I was too old. But now I'm on it.
And I'm like, Phineas and Ferb is pretty entertaining, actually.

Speaker 5 I know. My favorite episode.
My nephews have watched. Oh, they do? Yeah, they like it? Yeah, they love it.

Speaker 2 My favorite episode is this one where they build a roller coaster through the entire city. And it's just like...

Speaker 2 It's the kind of imagination that adults and kids can get together and go, yeah, that would be fucking cool.

Speaker 2 Good for you, Phineas and Firm.

Speaker 5 Do it.

Speaker 2 And now my kid wants to wonder, he wonders how we can build a roller coaster in the backyard. And

Speaker 2 I say, nope, nope. I already have that pool.
And that's enough. That's it.
That's enough money spent on one yard for a lifetime.

Speaker 5 Fuck anything. He's good at building things.

Speaker 2 He is. He's always building something.
He's going to be something. He's going to be a Disney imagineer, an architect, something.
He's got that bug.

Speaker 4 He likes to create. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's not into any of the, I mean, he's, he likes, we play baseball.

Speaker 2 The kids like when I throw the, like, a wiffle ball or a soft ball to him, a soft ball here to them in the house, and they hit it with a little plastic bat. We like to play soccer in the hallways.

Speaker 2 Sometimes we throw the football, but when it comes to building or puzzles or, you know, writing scripts for little YouTube videos that he thinks we're making, really, really not making,

Speaker 2 I'm not letting him on YouTube.

Speaker 5 No, not yet.

Speaker 2 No, but I'll tell you what, that children's programming is where it is at. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There are

Speaker 2 many children whose parents started YouTube channels

Speaker 2 around the kids.

Speaker 5 They make a ton of money.

Speaker 2 They're making millions and millions of dollars. Oh, it's crazy.
On the tube, on Roku, there's whole channels dedicated to some of these people.

Speaker 2 And they're YouTube videos and they're presented like television shows. Wow.
And there's thousands of these videos from multiple different creators.

Speaker 2 And I think to myself, I know I have that rule about not wanting my children to be a face on the internet or part of the internet for a long time, but could I break it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe ruin their lives forever

Speaker 2 to make a million or a couple, you know, two just doing this. So I don't know.
It is tempting, that is for sure. Also, speaking of children, Joanna is a new mom.
Yes.

Speaker 2 So we'll talk to her all about that. This is yet another step in the direction of this podcast just becoming one where I talk about Venezuela the entire time.
So just

Speaker 2 sit back and just relax, enjoy the show, learn a little something. It's only taken me 30 years to learn about Venezuela.
I'll get you up to speed quicker than that.

Speaker 4 Good little tutorial.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the reality is, like when we had Nacho on, when we talk about Venezuela, when we cut those clips up, sometimes on my own personal Instagram, I'll talk about observations that I have about the Venezuelan culture.

Speaker 2 Right. Shit goes haywire.
It goes haywire. The Venezuelans are loyal to a fault.
They love to hear about their culture. It makes them so happy.

Speaker 5 And I'm happy to bring the happiness.

Speaker 2 I really am.

Speaker 5 I'm a gringo.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. I was born this way.

Speaker 5 Nothing I could do about it. I'm just a gringo.
Nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 2 But Joanna is one of the more popular Venezuelan Americans.

Speaker 2 And so we're happy to have her back for a second time. Is this our second or our third time with Joanna?

Speaker 5 The second.

Speaker 2 I feel like we had a second time scheduled with her once. And it got rescheduled.
Something happened. She had to go Phineas and Furb it up or something.
Yeah. Yeah, you know, she's important.

Speaker 5 We're not.

Speaker 2 So sometimes you just got to take the good with the bad. All right.
So, Joanna Hausman, all the links in the show notes below to her social media. Of course, Phineas and Ferb available on Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 I think there is a new season coming out soon. We'll talk to her all about it when we get her on.
So let's take a short break, Chrissy.

Speaker 2 And when we get back through the Magic of Teller podcasting, Joanna Hausman, right here in studio on that TV with us. What do you think?

Speaker 5 I think we should do it. We'll be back.

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Speaker 2 And Joanna Houseman, after a long time of denying our request to come back to the show, understandably,

Speaker 2 she finally relented.

Speaker 5 She said, no,

Speaker 2 I will not say no on one more email. I have decided I'm going to return to the commercial break.
Joanna, it is so good to see you.

Speaker 5 Yes, welcome back. Oh my God.

Speaker 4 Thank you guys for

Speaker 4 relentlessly.

Speaker 4 Emailing me, pursuing me. I feel so wanted.
And I feel like that's what I wanted at the end.

Speaker 4 I just wanted to see how much you wanted me.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 5 if it isn't clear, then you know, listen,

Speaker 2 you're married. So this is the most wanted you're ever going to feel again outside of your children.

Speaker 5 True.

Speaker 4 Well, you know, I do got to say, you know, I wanted to come here earlier, but there was something called the birth of my child every night.

Speaker 5 I know. So little thing.
Yeah, of all the excuses we have heard.

Speaker 2 Birth of child.

Speaker 5 Please.

Speaker 2 People do this at home. And, you know, like pools, inflatable pools that they blow.

Speaker 5 It can't be that big of a deal.

Speaker 4 Both podcasts and giving birth. Yes.

Speaker 5 Yes. True story.

Speaker 2 First of all, how are you feeling? You're months away from. How old is the baby now? Two months? Old? Three months? Four months.
Four months.

Speaker 5 Four months old. Yeah, she's old now.

Speaker 4 she's wise beyond her months um no it was it's been good i mean i think that the media and i don't know why i'm saying the media is this abstract concept but like every time i log on to the internet all i hear is how bad and hard motherhood is and to be honest with you when i was pregnant i was like i don't know if this is gonna go well

Speaker 4 i hope i love her and and i've been so pleasantly surprised at how like how much joy there is and and how i've enjoyed it i just she is so cute i mean i also think she's a remarkable baby i mean i know i'm her mother or whatever but i am being you know

Speaker 4 just very logical in saying i do think she's the cutest thing to have ever existed and being a mom has been sort of like um

Speaker 4 a new a new uh part to play

Speaker 5 because

Speaker 4 it's like i thought i just i'm not the most stereotypically motherly

Speaker 4 person.

Speaker 4 And it just came so naturally. I was like, what the hell is happening?

Speaker 4 Wow, biology is strong.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You don't, would you not have considered yourself maternal before giving before having a baby?

Speaker 5 Not at all.

Speaker 2 You don't like take care of your husband when he gets the flu. You don't like dote on people.

Speaker 4 I'm like, why are you so sick?

Speaker 5 Like, this is inconvenient for me.

Speaker 4 Like, I love taking care of people,

Speaker 4 but not in a motherly way. And like, I'm your equal type of way.
I'm like, I'm your mommy.

Speaker 4 But with my baby, I'm like, oh, my goodness. Like,

Speaker 4 it's wild how your brain gets rewired in seconds. I just, it's seconds.
It's like, it's, you know, this is why there's.

Speaker 4 What, 8 billion of us? How many are there?

Speaker 5 Yeah, there's 8 billion.

Speaker 2 Probably three too many. 3 billion is too many, but there's eight of us hanging around.

Speaker 5 I

Speaker 5 around here.

Speaker 2 I felt the same way. I mean, fatherhood, motherhood, two totally different things, but there are some comparables, right? Some comparables.

Speaker 2 You're legally and financially responsible for their well-being.

Speaker 2 But I feel the same thing. I probably, I think I've always been good with children, and I felt like it was in me somewhere, but I never had any desire to be a parent until I met Astrid.

Speaker 2 And then the second that that child came out of the womb, my brain was rewired and there's nothing else. There's nothing else in the heavens.
It's like, that's it. It's her and him and my first child.

Speaker 2 And then we're going to go for it. By the like 16th child, you know, it's almost, it's just second nature.
You just become used to it. And you're four months in.

Speaker 2 I'm dealing with four years in, and that's a whole different animal. But I

Speaker 2 love how you're describing this. It's just pure joy.
It really is.

Speaker 2 And there is a lot of difficulties in parenting but i think overall the pluses outweigh the minuses and i wouldn't take it back and that's good for my children wait until that's good for my children yeah wait until they're two days talk again

Speaker 4 you don't resent your children what a blessing um

Speaker 4 yet yeah no and it's it's interesting because like when i i i when i found out i was pregnant i was like oh i'm That I'm in.

Speaker 4 Like you don't have like my husband was like, I guess I got nine months to think about this. I'm like, oh no, the next day I feel like trash and I feel like I can barely exist.

Speaker 4 And, you know, I feel like being a mom is like being hazed into parenthood because for nine months, there's no cuteness. There's no baby.
Your body's just going through a full body demolition. Yeah.

Speaker 5 And it's like, you think you want to be a parent,

Speaker 5 you know?

Speaker 4 But I'm, I, but I'm glad that you felt rewired immediately because I think as a mom, I was rewired immediately because it was like it was it was like going through the most difficult hike of your life and then you finally get to the the top yeah and you're like and like you're like okay oh maybe it was worth it this night

Speaker 5 anyway this is a beautiful view you know um

Speaker 5 so it's been it's been a crazy experience for sure it's kind of bizarre that the dumbest people in my high school are also parents yeah oh we've been saying this for years yeah

Speaker 4 that's sort of like been a relief yeah

Speaker 5 like if

Speaker 5 Can I do this? And I'm like, Brittany is doing that. So

Speaker 4 relax. With an eye.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Brittany with an eye.

Speaker 2 Former dancer,

Speaker 2 former shoe model. Brittany can do it.

Speaker 5 Then I can do it.

Speaker 2 I agree with you. I've been saying it for years.

Speaker 2 I will always probably believe this to some degree that you need a license to get on a fucking canoe and catch a fish in your local pond, but you need zero training to be a parent.

Speaker 2 There are zero qualifications to having a child. And there are some

Speaker 2 people where you're like, holy shit, I can't believe you're a parent.

Speaker 2 I know some people, I have friends that I'm questioning whether or not they should be parents, but they're already, once they're there, they're there. What are you going to do? Put them back in?

Speaker 2 I mean, so it's, it's kind of like, I mean, you can't do anything about it. How have

Speaker 2 work been going? Because I have been dying to talk to you about Phineas and Ferb, which has quickly run up the charts in my household over the last couple of months. And I don't know how or why.

Speaker 2 I mean, Phineas and Ferb, how long has Phineas and Ferb been off?

Speaker 4 So, so Phineas and Ferb was off for like a decade. Yeah.
And it just recently came back this year. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And Phineas and Ferb, you know, when it came out, I was like in college. So

Speaker 4 I was in that weird age that I wasn't a parent and I wasn't a kid. So I had no idea what it was about

Speaker 4 until later on in life when I started learning that Phineas and Ferb did sort of the impossible, which was, it was technically a kids' show, but 50% of its viewership was adults. Yes.

Speaker 4 Because the writer's room treats it as a true co-viewing show, meaning.

Speaker 4 yeah there's going to be crazy fun action sequences and this that and the other but the humor on the page is is for intelligent audiences and treating your audience as the most intelligent person in the room.

Speaker 4 And because of that, it's been like a multi-generational hit,

Speaker 4 which is unique, especially unique now with streaming where

Speaker 4 I think now shows are so specific to a particular audience that you see a fragmented viewership in the same household.

Speaker 4 You have kids watching one thing, your wife watching another thing, the dad watching another thing, you know, and this show, show, it sort of feels like everyone in the family actually enjoys watching it.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Working on it has been crazy. It's been such an honor, honestly.

Speaker 2 There are two shows in my house when the kids put them on. I don't mind watching an episode.
I also was way, I was way, at least I thought, aged out of Phineas and Ferb.

Speaker 2 So it wasn't something that I ever, it ever took hold and root in my mind. I knew of it.
I knew about it, probably seen a couple minutes of an episode.

Speaker 2 But when my oldest started watching Phineas and Ferb, the other two quickly jumped on board. And then I was like, oh, I can watch this cartoon too, just as I can Bluey.

Speaker 2 So Bluey and Phineas and Ferb, those two shows,

Speaker 2 I don't mind watching an episode because I get it. And it's funny.
And to some degree, those jokes are for me, right? The comedy is for me.

Speaker 2 And my kids think it's funny for one reason, but I think it's funny for another.

Speaker 5 Big City Greens for Big City Greens is another one.

Speaker 5 Oh, I love this.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is good. It is good.

Speaker 2 It is a good yeah it is good so how did you get involved with phineas and first i mean we knew you were in the disney family so to speak still waiting on that free trip to disney world but i knew you were in

Speaker 5 you promised um hey listen i know you have the i know you have bob's phone number and so when you get a chance my mr iger is my buddy have you ever met mr iger

Speaker 4 i think like in passing very briefly in passing

Speaker 5 like it was like oh that's bob and i'm like hello hold up and then he was just gone yeah he didn't have time Yeah. He didn't have time for you.

Speaker 2 So how did you get involved with Phineas and Ferb?

Speaker 4 Dude, it's kind of wild how being Venezuelan is the reason.

Speaker 5 I love that. I like it.
I missed it.

Speaker 4 It is the reason I'm on this podcast. Yes.

Speaker 4 Isn't it funny being part of a collapsed petro state actually helps you?

Speaker 4 The co-creator of Phineas and Ferb, Dan Hoffenmeier,

Speaker 4 was married to a a Venezuelan for many, many years.

Speaker 4 She's the mother of his children. They're still very close, even though they are divorced.
But

Speaker 4 she, you know, as a Venezuelan, would show him my videos as a way to connect. Like, remember when we went to this party and you asked me about this Venezuelan tradition and he'd watch it.

Speaker 4 And about, I don't know how many years ago, I think it, I think it was like, yeah, I think it was actually 10 years ago. 10 years ago,

Speaker 4 I get a message.

Speaker 4 I think it was on YouTube. and it was like, hey, my name is Dan.

Speaker 5 And I created this show called Phineas and Fern.

Speaker 4 My wife is Venezuelan and we'd love to have you over for a rapis one day when you're in LA.

Speaker 5 And I'm like,

Speaker 4 and I was like, this is so weird. So I like reached out and we talked.
And then I had a trip to LA the next week.

Speaker 4 And I texted him and I was like, you know, I'm going to go, I'm going to go to Pasadena to meet you and your family. And I'm in the Uber and I'm telling the Uber driver this story.

Speaker 4 And the Uber driver's like, I'm sorry, you're going to a random man's galaxy,

Speaker 5 famous showrunner. You have absolutely no proof, and I'm dropping you off there.
And I'm like, yeah, that's not any good, that's happening.

Speaker 4 And he was like, I am not letting you go in there by yourself. So he like waited for me, actually.

Speaker 5 Oh, Dan opened the door.

Speaker 5 And I saw the stargirls running around.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And I gave him five stars and a pretty good tip.
So that's how this started. And that sort of

Speaker 4 began a friendship between me and Dan. And Dan also has been sort of like a

Speaker 4 guiding light for me in my career where anytime I had questions or,

Speaker 4 you know, concerns or I had a new pilot or I had this, I always like felt like I could ask him for advice.

Speaker 4 And then, you know, years later, I was able to join this writer's room.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 it's been one of my favorite, I think, professional experiences ever.

Speaker 2 That is amazing. It is part of the reason why you're here.
So

Speaker 2 it's part of the reason why we connected, right? Because my wife showed me your videos, right? And I was like, oh, that's interesting. She's funny.
She should come on.

Speaker 2 And I was just, we just talked to, I just had a chance to sit down and have some time with Nacho Red from Scuela de Nada. And

Speaker 2 we had a very long conversation. And the reason why he's on the show is because my brother-in-law introduced me to Edi N, right? So, and there is no.
There's a whole network.

Speaker 5 There's a whole network.

Speaker 2 There's no interactions. There's no level of engagement that we get like when we talk about Venezuela.

Speaker 2 It is crazy how the Venezuelans are so loyal and willing to cheer anybody on who's willing to cheer them on.

Speaker 4 Oh, 100%. Yes.

Speaker 2 It makes, it gives me the warm and fuzzies in a way that it's hard to describe because

Speaker 2 I feel like an honorary Venezuelan, first of all, even if you don't want me, I'm here. And I'm the Gringo Venezuelan.

Speaker 2 And it is kind of crazy how these, this is like disparate people, this displaced people all around the world have embedded themselves in these industries and these communities and these places.

Speaker 2 And they've

Speaker 2 now they're all connected by some tissue. And look at you, Phineas and Ferb.

Speaker 2 Not maybe because you're Venezuelan, probably also because you're funny and, you know, all the other stuff,

Speaker 2 but originally started because you're making content about Venezuela that's relatable to some people across the pond.

Speaker 5 That's insane.

Speaker 4 Well, it's interesting because I remember

Speaker 4 a while ago, I was going through this like existential crisis where, you know, I

Speaker 4 once again, it was like we lost another election in Venezuela. And by lost, I mean, like, obviously it was stolen from us.
And it was like feeling of deep sadness.

Speaker 4 And I remember my dad telling me, like, you know, yes, of course there's so much tragedy, but within all this tragedy, there's this diaspora and there's positive externalities to diasporas.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck you just said.

Speaker 5 What is it that's not? And I was like,

Speaker 4 and it was like, no, because.

Speaker 4 you know when when a big migration of people leave a country they affect the world you see their food around the world you see their humor around the world you see them acting in movies in in in different countries they've their culture sorts permeating outside of the country and you you see it in like cultures from the past you know the the irish after the potato famine

Speaker 4 the italians in the in the 20th century so you know all of these big cultural movements that sort of globalized uh certain cultures came with a lot of sadness and tragedy attached to it and you know that's like the bit of the positive i see in in in seeing so many venezuelans away from their their home country is we are

Speaker 4 we've created an we've created an identity outside of the geographical constraints and um we're affecting culture outside of our country. and that's kind of cool

Speaker 2 that's very beautifully stated and i agree with you and and as someone who's married to a venezuelan and you know my best friend is just being in the community it is cool to see because immigration has got to be the the like one of the most besides parenthood has got to be the second most difficult thing that a human being can do and i've seen it firsthand kind of forced yeah yeah you leave everything that you know right you leave everything that you know and you have to start off from from scratch in a new place where you don't know people, you don't have connections, you know, you're lonely, maybe tired,

Speaker 2 maybe you don't speak the language.

Speaker 2 That's right, and so it's got to be one of the most difficult things that you can do to sort of rise up to meet the challenge and then to rise above that and affect the people around you, the communities around you, is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 And Venezuela, as I bet, as I will attest to to the day that I die, is a beautiful, they're such beautiful people in general.

Speaker 2 A company not excluded here because you are definitely one of my favorites.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 2 so, let me ask you this. So,

Speaker 2 you did lose another election or stole another election or whatever. And then this lady wins the Nobel Peace Prize

Speaker 2 and then hands it to Trump. And I don't, I think I know.
I think I understand she's playing the game here. I think I understand she's playing a game a little bit.
I get it. I understand.

Speaker 2 I understand that this is probably not all is

Speaker 2 on

Speaker 2 the surface as it seems. But did you feel a sense of pride that they gave her the Nobel Peace Prize?

Speaker 4 I mean, of course,

Speaker 4 we have not received any good news in

Speaker 4 so long.

Speaker 4 And that felt like, wow, our struggle that usually feels separate from general conversation. Venezuela almost feels like a niche country.
Like, wait, what? Venezuela, that sounds beautiful.

Speaker 4 Like, you know, they don't understand.

Speaker 4 And understandably so. It doesn't, it's, you know, it's not on

Speaker 4 the front of everyone's mind, but it felt like we were a global topic.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And it felt like our, our struggle and our pain was a global topic.

Speaker 4 And I was so happy to see Maria Corina Machao when, I mean, and she's the one person peacefully trying to enact change in a dictatorship.

Speaker 4 And, you know, I got a lot of messages from my American friends

Speaker 4 being like,

Speaker 4 what the fuck? Like, this woman shouldn't have done this. Like, this is ridiculous.
And I'm like, listen, I don't have the the privilege of getting picky here.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 2 I agree with you.

Speaker 4 I'd love to have the privilege. Yeah.
I'd love that. I'd love to be like, I don't like that she said this one thing one time.
I don't have that privilege. She's our one and only hope.

Speaker 4 And I know she's strategic and she's playing.

Speaker 5 She's being strategic.

Speaker 5 A long game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And what, and I know that she's like, I'm going to do whatever I need to do to make sure that this dictatorship topples and you're able to have democracy and freedom in this country.

Speaker 4 And I don't care what what she does in order to make that happen.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so,

Speaker 4 you know, anytime a friend would be like, wow, isn't that just so, you must be so upset. I'm like, girl.

Speaker 5 There are so many other things to be upset about.

Speaker 4 I think I'm upset with the fact that my family lost their country. Yeah.

Speaker 4 basically, you know, scattered across the world. So many of my cousins and aunts and uncles have to start from scratch and

Speaker 4 are still struggling. And that's what I, that's what, who I'm thinking of when these things,

Speaker 4 it's real life for me. It's not ideology and it's, it's not, you know, parsing through what is morally right and morally wrong in every aspect.

Speaker 4 I don't, I, I don't have the time and, and I don't have the bandwidth. I'm like, I,

Speaker 4 this is our one hope. Yeah.
And that's it. That's it.
So let's see, let's see what happens.

Speaker 2 I agree with you. And I, I think you're, I think this is like, um, if I may, I think it's right-headed thinking that you have because there are so many other things to be concerned about.

Speaker 2 And I think she is,

Speaker 2 there's a reason why she got the Nobel Peace Prize. There's a reason why she probably won an election.
There's a reason why so many people are looking to her.

Speaker 2 She has a head on her shoulders and she understands globally that she needs to play whatever game she needs to play to make sure that things at home get fixed.

Speaker 2 And she's still living in the fucking country, too. So, you know, that's like the most insane thing.
She's not like, you know, living high on the hog in Aruba or something.

Speaker 2 She's still living in Venezuela.

Speaker 5 And she's got. She's hiding.

Speaker 4 She's hiding because if they find her she's in prison she's in prison she's doing all of this with

Speaker 4 no calls for bloodshed do you know what i'm saying

Speaker 4 this woman has has perfectly crafted a peaceful revolution she

Speaker 4 she was able to uh build with her team the technological necessities to be able to count the votes in the last election and prove that democratically the opposition won. She did everything right.

Speaker 4 She's doing everything for our country. She's doing everything right.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And if she doesn't fit in your global politics for X, Y, and Z reason,

Speaker 4 great.

Speaker 5 I but it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 It doesn't matter to Venezuelans.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter to the town. It doesn't matter to Venezuelans.
Venezuelans just want their country back. They want to be able to go back home.

Speaker 4 They want to be able to live in peace and freedom and not have, you know, a dictatorship censoring them and imprisoning them and killing them so that's the priority for us baby right and you know

Speaker 4 this if you don't get it step back is what i'm

Speaker 5 saying but i said to many friends actually i was like girl let her do her thing

Speaker 2 let her do her thing there's a lot of people's lives at stake yeah you are uh venezuelan so has your Has your larger community now rushed in to co-parent your child with you?

Speaker 4 That's hilarious. Absolutely.
Yeah. My mom is arriving on Friday.

Speaker 5 Are you excited?

Speaker 4 I'm excited. It's interesting because there's a lot of like cultural differences I note from Venezuelans to

Speaker 4 honestly where I've lived most of my life, which is in the United States. And in the States, it's like...

Speaker 4 You study, you know, you grow up in one city, then you go to college in another city, and then you move to another city for work. That's sort of like a natural progression, right? Yes.

Speaker 4 In Venezuela, you like live at home with your parents until you get married you know or until your children get married yeah until

Speaker 4 they have grandchildren yeah yeah and so there's this like multi-generational raising of children right and it's like the grandparents aren't involved the the cousin that's not really your cousin is involved with everyone it's this

Speaker 4 while here you know i moved to la for a career i i'm following the american path of the american dream which is like i'm in a city i started from scratch in the city i don't know anything about this city i actually low-key don't love it.

Speaker 4 But I'm here because it's, it's the right place for me for my career. And, and, but I am, I'm alone here.
I don't have any family. So it's, it's like weird because,

Speaker 4 you know, my family's proud of me, but my family, you know, my mom will be like, oh yeah, you mustn't be so alone there with the baby.

Speaker 5 And you don't have me next to you, but take care of her or whatever, whatever you want.

Speaker 5 So hard for you.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, yeah, I know it's hard, mom. I, for sure.
And she's like, I better get, you know what? I would love it.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 4 and be like, take care of the baby. And I go,

Speaker 4 I'm a free nanny. And I'm like, Mom, I don't know what to tell you.
I live in LA.

Speaker 4 So, you know, it's been interesting. And it's been

Speaker 5 very much.

Speaker 4 She's in Boston. Okay.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 4 Which is funny that that woman lives in Boston.

Speaker 5 Right. I don't know.

Speaker 4 Like, and she spends a lot of time in the Berkshires, which is like,

Speaker 4 it's like the most preppy, kind of slightly uptight

Speaker 4 East Coast.

Speaker 5 Oh, it's Aerodex. Yeah, it's Aerodex.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And everyone in the Berkshires loves my. My mom goes into the library and they're like, oh my God, Anna, you're here.
And she's like, I'm back in the library, Davy.

Speaker 5 I love this. Picturing her.

Speaker 4 She knows everyone. She knows everyone in every market.
But, you know, the point is that it's like

Speaker 4 there's community, sort of like Latin culture is very much about community. And we've, my mom has built community everywhere she's gone as a way to like sort of mimic what she has back home.

Speaker 4 And, you know, here I would love to have a bigger community to raise my kid, and I'm building it through friendships and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 But man, what I do know how much I love to have like my 75 family members like fighting distance from me? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've had 17 kids. I'd be like, yeah, that's fine.
You take this one.

Speaker 2 There is nothing I love more than when

Speaker 2 Astrid's parents come to the house because they are so good with my children.

Speaker 2 I believe they are the second parents of my children. Like, God forbid, you know, fiery plane crashed the whole nine yards.

Speaker 2 I want them, not my parents, because first of all, my parents are a little bit older, but they're Irish Catholic and it's like, check in, check out, punch in, punch out.

Speaker 2 My brothers live within a 20-mile radius of here.

Speaker 2 It's really, honestly, it's like a magic trick to get them to show up for more than 15 minutes to my house because it's just the Irish Catholic way.

Speaker 2 It's not because they're bad people, it's because they have no fucking clue. They don't, what? We're supposed to do what?

Speaker 2 Be uncle, you know, it's like it's just something that doesn't come natural to them.

Speaker 4 How is it because Irish Catholics have like 17 kids each and they're like, I don't have time for cousins.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I honestly,

Speaker 4 the Catholic thing, because I grew up in an Italian family, and it was different.

Speaker 2 Italian Catholics are different than

Speaker 5 parents. We're my second parents.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe it's just my family. Maybe my family just are child haters.

Speaker 5 They just hate children. I don't know.

Speaker 2 None of them have kids either. So that's another thing is when you don't have children, you don't know how to parent.
You don't know how to parent default. Like I walk into a household

Speaker 2 and there's other children in the room. I am now another parent in the room.
So I know how, I will, I know how to, and I'm not afraid to also be the another parent in the room.

Speaker 2 Hey, don't do that, Billy.

Speaker 5 Who are you? Fuck you, Billy. Sit down.
Stop setting shit on fire. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Stop biting the cat, right?

Speaker 2 Because I'm a parent and you, and I will ever will be. My brothers, they don't know that.
And I think, like, in a Venezuelan community, everyone's parenting everybody. So it kind of comes natural.

Speaker 2 But in my family, we're all very isolated. And so when they come into a room, they don't know, they're not parenting my kids.

Speaker 2 They're like, maybe they'll throw them across the room or, you know, give them a sip of whiskey.

Speaker 5 But besides that, it's not, you know, it's a little weird.

Speaker 2 When my in-laws come, I fucking love it.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Besides the fact

Speaker 2 and Gustavo, my brother-in-law, he also, he's another parent. He just walks in.

Speaker 2 He doesn't have kids, but he knows it.

Speaker 4 Also, he's seven foot tall.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's seven foot tall, so he's scary.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I love it when they come and it's just like such a good, they have a good time. The kids are always laughing and joking.
I have another set of eyeballs in the room. And besides hearing

Speaker 2 from my father-in-law father-in-law a lot, and he mumbles under his breath about me, besides that, I think

Speaker 2 everything's good. So you need your mom to come.
Is she staying for a long period of time? Are you going to allow her to be here for many, many months?

Speaker 4 I mean, I did tell her she can't stay in my house because we just don't have the space. So, you know, once she has her space, I think it's the perfect

Speaker 5 mix.

Speaker 4 And, and yeah, I mean, I mean, it's, it's, I'm like curious to see because there's, I don't know what happens happens with grandparents.

Speaker 4 I think grandparents have the privilege of perspective of knowing that what you stress over isn't necessary. And like,

Speaker 4 truthfully, the most probable thing is that your kid's going to be fine. Yes.

Speaker 4 But, but when you're in it, you don't know that.

Speaker 4 So, you know, my baby cries like at 6 p.m. every day, but we have to wait a little bit before we feed her.
So like inevitably, we have to like, you know, soothe her. But she cries.

Speaker 5 And my mom's like, you are torturing the baby.

Speaker 5 We give her the

Speaker 4 i didn't sleep train you at all i just gave you what you needed because i was like well you know and it's like a lot more intense so it's you know we we also have so much more research at the palm of our hand when it comes to so much of this

Speaker 4 and i think i don't know my my my parents like winged it my mom was like what are you reading like what's all this reading you're doing these books and my you know i she was like you were born i just figured it out yeah so i feel like there's this this like generational divide with information,

Speaker 4 which is interesting. And like, I think that we'll probably battle it out.
You know, who knows if there'll be survivors, but we'll try.

Speaker 5 You'll be okay.

Speaker 2 You guys will figure it out. There is this need, I think.

Speaker 2 I have always said that one of the great joys of my life is watching my father, grandparent, my children, because I think he has the benefit of hindsight and he understands.

Speaker 2 Maybe I always didn't get it right with my own kids. So I'm not going to miss.

Speaker 5 He's retired. He's less stressed.
Yeah, he's less stressed.

Speaker 2 And he's not financially responsible for them. And I'm not, you know, smoking weed in the backyard.
You know, the grandkids haven't gotten to smoking weed yet.

Speaker 2 So it's like, but I feel like it's one of the great joys of my life is getting to watch my dad be a grandparent to my children.

Speaker 2 That's, it's a beautiful thing to me, especially when I see them connecting. And, you know, yeah, they're not, my grandparent, my dad's not spending days on end at my house taking care of the kids.

Speaker 2 But when it does happen, when they do get to connect, I think it's really beautiful. But I also understand he raised children in a totally different universe than I'm raising children.
You're right.

Speaker 2 We have too much information on our, how many times have you called your pediatrician?

Speaker 4 You know, I, I, I, a lot, but

Speaker 4 I decided to do something during my pregnancy, which was like, I was like, I don't want to know. I don't want to know.

Speaker 5 I don't want to know.

Speaker 4 Like, people would be like, are you, are you like doing the birthing classes? And I was like, I did one birthing class. And I was like, I don't want to know more.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 i want to know more we used to do this in a cave yeah and i think that there was some there was some wisdom to that yeah where you're just like blindly going into something because it's like it's like it's like um you're about to jump from a from a bungee jump whatever cord thing and they're like over explaining

Speaker 4 gravity to you right and it's like i know generally what's going to happen and i'd rather just not overthink it yeah and so i which is very unlike my character character, I'm very neurotic.

Speaker 4 I'm very anxious. And with this whole process, I've been sort of like,

Speaker 4 my husband, my husband's the one that's reading all the books about sleep training and stuff. And I'm just sort of like, I'm going to, I'm going to listen to him, but I'm also just sort of like,

Speaker 5 I don't know. It'll work out.
It'll work out.

Speaker 4 As I've said before, there's so many of us on this earth. So, you know, I think we're more resilient.
Our parents. Then, then we get

Speaker 2 threw us in a crib and said, figure it the fuck out. They didn't say figure it the fuck out to any other adults in the room.
They said, figure it out to the nine-month-old.

Speaker 2 They said, figure it the fuck out and keep it quiet in here so I can get some sleep. And look how I turned out.
Just fine. I can't, I can't sleep for shit.

Speaker 5 I have a bad anxiety problem. But besides that, I'm okay.

Speaker 2 But I mean, oh my God, yes.

Speaker 4 I do think our anxiety problem, you know,

Speaker 4 my dad told me. He had the audacity of being like, you know, I think I know where your anxiety comes from.
And I'm like, yeah, what, like, what do you think, dad, Maybe growing up in

Speaker 4 where we were moving all the time, where the coup d'etat was coming, where there was instability everywhere, where you and mom were fighting over politics all the time.

Speaker 4 What do you what do you, what do you think? He's like, No, I think it's because you had colleagues the first two months of your life, and it rewired your brain in a crazy way like that.

Speaker 5 And I'm like, pretty sure

Speaker 4 that's not the case,

Speaker 5 but maybe, yeah, maybe, yeah, you never know, it could be, could be, dad.

Speaker 2 That's the thing is, you never do know.

Speaker 5 You don't.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you never do know

Speaker 2 what's going to manifest further down the line. And, you know, listen,

Speaker 2 I've always thought about parenting this way is, and I don't always, I wish that I could listen to my own words sometimes, but I try, is that.

Speaker 2 They're already cooked. They're already fully baked.
The personalities are in there. Their destiny is in there.

Speaker 2 Their abilities or not abilities, you know, the things they could do well or not well is already in there.

Speaker 2 All I have to do is just make sure that they don't, you know, set themselves on fire or drive the car through the front door.

Speaker 2 And if I can do that and generally get them through okay, then that, that, then everything, you know, I'll have done my job.

Speaker 5 I want, I read love and support. Love and support.
Love and support.

Speaker 4 If you just shower them with love, I mean, I know that you have to like be a bitch.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you gotta be a bitch. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But the love

Speaker 5 is so important.

Speaker 4 It's very,

Speaker 4 they just have to feel special.

Speaker 5 You know, that's how you cook them.

Speaker 4 and that you're the biggest fan.

Speaker 5 That's how you cook them. That's how you cook them.
That's how you cook them. Fake them up.

Speaker 2 It's like the tequeno. You put it in the fryer.
You know, it's like you put it in the air fryer. Your love is the air fryer.
You just put your love is the air fryer.

Speaker 5 What a beautiful metaphor.

Speaker 4 Okay, if you clip this, Venezuelans are going to share it like crazy. It's like, oh my god, he compared the love of parents to tequeno.

Speaker 5 There he's perfect.

Speaker 5 I am seen.

Speaker 2 Clip it. Uh, Kevin, Clippet.

Speaker 2 I just,

Speaker 2 I just,

Speaker 2 I'm excited for you because also, four months old, four

Speaker 2 to one and a half,

Speaker 2 the golden time. Now having some perspective, the golden time because

Speaker 2 they need everything. And that may seem, that's good and bad some days, but they need everything from you.
You're the only thing they care about. You're the entire world.

Speaker 2 They cannot yet get into cabinets or your alcohol by themselves. So you don't have to worry too much.
And it's just a lovely time to bond with the child. How is your husband doing?

Speaker 2 Let's talk about him. How is he doing?

Speaker 4 I think he was born as a dad.

Speaker 5 That's good. He came out.

Speaker 4 Have you seen those memes of like how I see my dad as a baby and it's like a full-grown man's face on a baby? Yes, like a baby body. I feel like when my daughter says that, she's going to be right.

Speaker 5 This man

Speaker 4 was like

Speaker 4 programmed for parenthood and fatherhood. And so he's doing, he's doing great.

Speaker 4 He is, you know, he's like a little bit OCD and he likes, you know, the ounces and the schedule and the timing. And he has like his little spreadsheets of information.

Speaker 4 So I feel like he, he's like built for it.

Speaker 4 And I do think that we subvert the stereotype when it comes to like when women talk about mental load and how they carry so much mental load in the house, how they have to be responsible for so many other things, not just taking care of the baby.

Speaker 4 Like the expectation is that a lot of this stuff is on them and i feel bad when i hear these like podcasts and clips because i'm like oh my god i'm the problem

Speaker 4 yeah i i'm like i'm sort of i mean of course when it comes to taking good care of the baby i'm pretty good at it but when it comes to like all the other like little minutiae like reordering the formula and like restocking the this i'm

Speaker 4 i'm so add i'm like i don't know i i it happens magically yeah

Speaker 5 That's great. You have that.

Speaker 2 Astrid's currently listening going, why can't you be anything like Joanna's husband?

Speaker 4 But you know what I was thinking? If my husband was married to someone like him,

Speaker 4 they would die.

Speaker 5 Therapy five.

Speaker 5 They'd be like, why did you

Speaker 5 do it?

Speaker 4 Right. You didn't order the right color.

Speaker 5 You didn't do that right. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 But I told you I wanted this instead of that. And I'm just like, whatever, man, I'm good.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's me.

Speaker 2 That's me with Astrid yeah I'm like you yeah I play that role in the family too I'm like I don't worry because I know Astrid's worrying and two of us worrying isn't gonna help this situation so like you know Halloween's coming around the hollow yeah the the baskets and the kids and the dresses and the Halloween costumes what are we gonna do and how are we gonna do it it's already handled it shows up by Amazon and it's already handled and the kids are walking around with their costumes and I'm like oh you're gonna be R2D2 this year cool dude yeah and meanwhile Astrid's like we've been talking about this for six weeks And I was like, we were?

Speaker 5 We did. Well, thanks.
Thanks for that.

Speaker 5 It's just the way that I am.

Speaker 2 I don't want to die on a bunch of hills. So I let, I let, and she is great at that stuff.
That is her strong suit. She is fantastic.
Left up to my own devices.

Speaker 5 Those children would be loved and they would have so much fun, but they would be naked and hungry and probably hair tangled.

Speaker 2 Not know how to read.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Dreadlocks.

Speaker 5 Learning the flies.

Speaker 2 We'd be growing up in a commune.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you this. You said

Speaker 2 you're not loving LA.

Speaker 5 Well, listen.

Speaker 2 Or is it like a double-edged sword?

Speaker 5 It's a double-edged sword.

Speaker 4 Maybe one of the reasons I don't love L.A. is how much I love New York.
It's like trying to date someone wonderful, new, but you're still in love with your ex.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 My heart's somewhere else, and that's not L.A.'s fault necessarily. LA is very different from New York.
I always say that, like,

Speaker 4 New York is like someone who was born ugly and had to build a personality and sense of

Speaker 4 and LA was born hot.

Speaker 5 Beautiful. LA is so hot.

Speaker 4 It's beautiful, but then, like, the architecture is not great. It's not well thought out as a city.
It's sort of a mess, but like, you know, the niche is spectacular. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So it's just getting used to something that's like vastly different while my heart's somewhere else.

Speaker 4 And it's a, it's just a quirky, interesting. It's also a city that's difficult to get to know.
It's like an introverted city.

Speaker 5 It is.

Speaker 4 It's an introverted city. New York is an extrovert.

Speaker 5 New York's like, hey, I'm being

Speaker 5 crazy.

Speaker 5 Trump Town, Central Park. Come on down.
Eat some food.

Speaker 4 LA's like, hey,

Speaker 5 welcome.

Speaker 4 I don't know where I even am.

Speaker 5 Actually,

Speaker 4 yeah, just drive around aimlessly.

Speaker 2 Maybe you should call San Fernando Valley. Maybe they'll know.
Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 5 Maybe they'll know. Yeah, true.

Speaker 4 But there's a lot of magical parts of L.A., and it is a very interesting city. It just takes a lot of effort to get to know.

Speaker 5 That is true. So,

Speaker 4 so, you know,

Speaker 5 I'm

Speaker 4 starting to have feelings for LA.

Speaker 5 It's growing on me. Okay.

Speaker 2 So, Phineas and Ferb, you are now in the writer's room. Are you, do you also have producer credits on Phineas and Ferb?

Speaker 4 Not on Phineas and Ferb. I'm working on other stuff that I you'll tell us the day before, right?

Speaker 4 But let me tell you, being a staff writer, oh my God, how fun. I bet.
I can imagine.

Speaker 5 It's so fun.

Speaker 4 It is so fun to show up and just be like, my job is to write and to, and to make a joke funnier. And this, like, I love producing and I love, I love that side of things, of course.

Speaker 4 But there's something really liberating of being like, oh, my job is actually limiting it makes me be a little bit more creative.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So that's been, that's been fun. And, you know, producing other stuff on the side is like, oh, right.

Speaker 4 There's like things, other things have to happen for things to be on a screen that aren't just like, what if, what if the goat is wearing a two.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 5 There's a freedom in that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, we got to get a distribution deal and I got to get the color artist paid.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like, oh, God, this actor we cast isn't the right voice. Yeah.
We cast. Oh my God.
We already have the

Speaker 4 footage back from overseas, which means we have ADR everything.

Speaker 4 Like there's so many elements and you know, cartoons in particular, like live action, of course, but cartoons in particular, every millisecond. takes so much effort.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It takes so many people, so many cooks in the kitchen. There's even people called timers.

Speaker 5 I don't even know what they do, but I think they time.

Speaker 4 Okay. And the timers like time something.

Speaker 5 Like, there's someone for, for every element.

Speaker 4 Like, there's no background without someone painting it. There's no, you know, a spoon without someone ideating what a spoon looks like in this world.
So it's so much creative input in

Speaker 4 such a short period of time. Are you seeing anything to do with AI?

Speaker 4 Like, how has, is that a thing?

Speaker 4 Do you see it being a thing down the road?

Speaker 5 What? Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like a, it's like a, it's like a fear that's looming over us at all times.

Speaker 5 Right, unknown. It's the unknown.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm also of the opinion that, uh, you know, when

Speaker 4 when

Speaker 4 every technological advance has happened, there's been fear, and there's had to be there has to be adjustment in society. For sure.

Speaker 5 We're right about that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so I just, and ultimately, you become more efficient.

Speaker 4 I'm hoping and I'm hopeful that AI is going to help us

Speaker 4 make more things quicker.

Speaker 4 But I don't foresee the human element being something that we can

Speaker 4 take away from art.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And take away from podcasts like these. If someone's like, you know, that there's a podcast that can be perfectly crafted for you with fake people.
I'd be like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 What is that? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 What's the human experience if it's just crafted around right?

Speaker 5 Right. Well, I also,

Speaker 2 I agree with you. And I think human creativity is the one thing.

Speaker 2 And if even if you talk to people, or if you listen to people who are in the world of AI, human creativity and some of our logic just may be a generation two, three, four away from being something you can replicate with any degree of

Speaker 2 accuracy. It's just it's our mat.
It's our X factor. It's our umami.
It's the thing that we have that makes us human that

Speaker 2 unfortunately for people who want to.

Speaker 5 We're flawed. Humans are flawed.

Speaker 4 And that's also what makes us interesting.

Speaker 5 Well, that's what, yeah

Speaker 2 and we have the ability to make um certain types of um certain types of thinking that we have it's really hard to replicate because we don't even understand how it works so therefore ai can't understand not yet at least can't understand how it works

Speaker 4 also when when you see something and you know someone made it it inherently affects the way that you perceive it that's true

Speaker 2 if i am told that's you connect if i am if i know that this is not made by a person my brain automatically disengages I'm not interested right yeah right I see AI on social media and it's yes it's getting better at looking real but at least for right now a lot of it is flag tagged or people identify it as AI I just don't have a lot of respect for it right and so you know we use AI here at the show it makes little songs for us but I write all the lyrics I just get it to play an instrument right right and that's because I don't have a full band I'm not Jimmy Kimmel I can't just put a full band in the back of my thing.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 it's a tool.

Speaker 2 It helps, right? It helps me be more creative. And if I look at it that way, I don't have any problem with it.
But is it going to replace me?

Speaker 2 I'm sure that you could make a show funnier than ours, better than ours for you with my voice through AI.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're right. It would be weird.

Speaker 5 Why would you be weird? Why would you want to listen to that?

Speaker 4 Why would you want to listen to it? It's like, oh, I want, actually, I want to be in a simulation.

Speaker 5 I'm already in a simulation. I don't want to be in another one.

Speaker 2 That's double secret probation, and that doesn't doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 Joanna, I love you so much.

Speaker 2 I know it's taken us a long time to get to number two, but I hope it doesn't take us a long time to get to number three because I really enjoy talking to you.

Speaker 2 You were one of our favorites the first time. You haven't ruined that by coming on the second time.

Speaker 5 So, you know, sometimes. You held your place.
You held your place.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 I was like, do they really want me?

Speaker 5 Do the more for it.

Speaker 4 And now I got to to prove I'm not a waste of time.

Speaker 2 I'm like, well, will she be better than Nacho? We'll have to see. But I have to say, I still hold you close to my heart.

Speaker 4 You never forget your first time. Well, me and Nacho can, yeah.
I mean, I was first and Nacho and I, we can fight about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you guys get in the comment section and fight about it. Do you know Nacho? Do you listen to EDN? I do.

Speaker 4 I do know Nacho. I met him many, many.
many years ago.

Speaker 4 And yeah, I've just followed his career. It's like one of those, it's like when you go to college or high school with someone and then you see them parallel succeed.

Speaker 4 And it's like, oh my God, I know that guy. I don't know him that well, but almost like living similar experiences

Speaker 4 in the country and sort of finding your footing has been really wonderful to see. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's done great. Yeah.
There's a few podcasters I've known. Like I know them from 20, 25 years ago.
And I don't speak to them on a regular basis at all, but I watch their career and I go, I know them.

Speaker 2 And they did it. They did something very similar.
I cheer them on. Unless they make more money than us, then I don't cheer them on.

Speaker 4 Then I say that. And you're like, get out of here.

Speaker 5 You owe me money. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Joanna Hausman is currently writing for Phineas and Ferb. I'm sorry, because I'm old and my brain farts.
The name of the other show that you have on Disney Plus?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, Hamster and Gretel. Hamster and Gretel.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I wanted to call it like... John and Apple or something.

Speaker 5 I don't know what I was thinking. Squirrel and Apple.

Speaker 4 Maybe if it was renamed, they wouldn't have canceled it.

Speaker 2 But it's still on Disney Plus, right?

Speaker 4 It's still on Disney Plus.

Speaker 5 Yeah, okay. It lives on.

Speaker 2 Go, go, watch it. Put some.
Do you get royalties from Hamster and Gretel if I watch it?

Speaker 4 Fun fact, I don't.

Speaker 5 Unless my voice is in it.

Speaker 4 Unless my voice is in it. In which case, we watch all of them.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so just go ahead and watch them all.

Speaker 5 We'll put it on in the background. Episode 13.

Speaker 2 Yeah, watch episode 13, minute four through six, so that Joanna can get a check. And then fuck the rest of it.
Who cares about those other people?

Speaker 5 Hamster and Gretel.

Speaker 2 No, I'm kidding. Of course.

Speaker 2 Bob, settle down. Settle down.

Speaker 2 The Polynesian for a week park hopper tickets. That's all I want, Bob.
So talk to Joanna.

Speaker 2 Set it up. Say, Joanna, you just say, Bob, I know a needy family.

Speaker 5 I know a needy podcaster who wants to come out to Disney.

Speaker 4 I'm sure he'll listen. I'm going to email him.
I'm going to slack him.

Speaker 5 Slack him. Yeah.
I wonder if you.

Speaker 2 I wonder, but here's the thing. You working for Disney is going to end up being the best thing in the world to your children.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 If, I mean, if you continue to work for Disney.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We'll see. We'll see what happens.
But I love that I'm going to be able to share with her soon my content because a lot of my other comedy, I'm like,

Speaker 4 you got to wait till you're ready.

Speaker 5 But those shows, hey, it's gone through.

Speaker 4 It's gone through copious amounts of checking from Disney legal. Yes.

Speaker 5 So to be safe, you can see it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Congratulations too. Yeah.
Thank you, guys.

Speaker 2 Congratulations on the baby. Let's do this again in another couple of months.

Speaker 5 And give us the exclusive.

Speaker 2 And give us the exclusive.

Speaker 4 Yes. Oh, yeah.
I got something coming out, and I think it's going to be very fun to talk about. Okay.

Speaker 5 We're excited.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 If you're not here to allow us to put that out a day before him, we are going to put you in the Nikki Jam category, which is, I don't know.

Speaker 5 I know. We'd love to see you.

Speaker 5 Actually, I promise. Okay.
Joanna Hausman, all of her links are in the show notes.

Speaker 2 Phineas and Ferb available on Disney Plus. Thanks, Joanna.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Joanna. Thank you again.

Speaker 5 Love you.

Speaker 5 Let me do something Brian has never done.

Speaker 2 Be brief.

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Speaker 2 All right, Joanna Hausman. Yes.
I do love. I do love her.
See, I know.

Speaker 4 She's just got...

Speaker 2 She's a ball of energy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just love talking to her.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she's sweet. She's kind.
She's funny. She's sharp.

Speaker 2 She's now a mama. So she's got mama brain.

Speaker 2 And there's nothing like a mama brain. Mama brains get smarter.
Daddy brains get dumber. We can't handle all the minutia.

Speaker 4 I was going to say, there's so many things to remember.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 2 It just happens. Thank God for mama brains.
Thank God for mama brains. Joanna Hausman is a writer and I think voices some things on the new episodes of Phineas and Ferb.

Speaker 2 They are available on Disney Plus. I think they also run on Disney channel.
I think they do. I'll put it in the show notes.
I want to double check, make sure that's correct.

Speaker 2 And then, of course, follow Joanna on her own social media for more commentary on Venezuela and Venezuelans. You'll love it.
That stuff is really funny. Yes, it is.
She took an idea that I...

Speaker 2 She didn't take my idea.

Speaker 2 She presented an idea that I also had, which was... the differences between the two birthday songs.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 If you've ever heard a Venezuelan birthday song, you'll know it because you'll have to have breakfast, lunch, and dinner while they're doing the Venezuelan birthday song.

Speaker 5 It's long. It's six hours long.

Speaker 2 It's the craziest thing you've ever heard. And that's...

Speaker 4 I like their celebration of birthdays.

Speaker 2 I do. They get very excited.
Me too. Very excited.
Yeah, you do too.

Speaker 2 I'm Irish. We just, you know, we bang ourselves with a pot.

Speaker 2 Stop growing old.

Speaker 2 We're born with original sin.

Speaker 4 There's got to be an Irish jig for birthdays.

Speaker 2 I'm sure there is. But since since I'm not really Irish, since I just have, I just say that.
Like, my family's been here for 100 years, you know.

Speaker 5 Yeah. All right.

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