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Speaker 4 I'm not so stupid, I'm gonna go sit down to find out how fucking dumb I am.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got the vaccine.

Speaker 2 Yes, I got all the boosters. If it saves my life, fine.

Speaker 4 If it kills me, great.

Speaker 2 But the last thing you will ever see me do is Google what's in the vaccine

Speaker 4 and then sit there and pretend as though I understand the words that I'm reading.

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Speaker 4 Glad that's in there, but I'll tell you what, that tetratranazine

Speaker 4 got me wondering who's really in charge

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Speaker 4 the start of that show was when Amazon was getting into streaming

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Speaker 4 Yep, and I remember this was absurd to everybody because everyone's like, Amazon is where I buy packages.

Speaker 4 And yet, they were going to now do TV, so it seemed crazy. But they decided to do this competition where they would give all these applicants a certain amount of money to make a pilot.

Speaker 4 They would post all the pilots, and whoever got the most views the top two would like get a show yeah and so these guys came up with this show they hired me to play the principal these are my friends on the lowest budget shooting something at a high school in denver

Speaker 4 and i didn't take it seriously at all

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Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, Cass and Kittens. Welcome back to the Commercial Break.
I'm Brian Green. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Kristen Joyhod.
Lay best to you.

Speaker 2 Best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe.
Thanks for joining us. It's a TCB Infomercial Tuesday with Rory Scobel.
I am so excited to have him

Speaker 2 here with us today. This has been a long time in the making.
I asked a long time ago for Rory to show up, and

Speaker 2 he did not.

Speaker 2 And now he is here. And I am very excited because one of my favorite television shows of all time is a show called Those Who Can't.

Speaker 2 It's a television show that had a brief run on True TV three or four seasons, I think. And now you can't even find it.
We were just looking for it and you can't find it.

Speaker 2 It's crazy, but it is one of those. He's also physical.
Oh, yeah, he's also been on physical. He's been in a lot of Babylon.
He's been in a lot of television programs. He's done a lot of stand-up.

Speaker 2 And he is known as an improvisational comic of...

Speaker 2 He's like on the top of the mountain as far as improv comedy is concerned. He's always down there, Lago.
We're going to Lago, darling.

Speaker 2 We're going to Largo to see Rory and Conan and maybe catch a little Jean-Mayer of Largo.

Speaker 2 I wish I was in LA so I could go to Largo. I know we'd be down there.
Yeah, just to say you're going to Largo. I'm going to Largo, darling.
I'm going to Largo. Meet me at Largo.
Meet me at Largo.

Speaker 2 And you'd think like Largo is this magical place with like palm trees growing in the middle of it and you know a pool where they have girls in one-piece bathing suits and bathing caps.

Speaker 2 You know, Largo seems like a magical place. But then you look at it, it looks like like a dining hall.
It's like a dining hall.

Speaker 2 But Largo, if you go to their Instagram, anybody who's anybody is at Largo. And I saw during the pandemic, the COVID, I saw Rory was at Largo a lot.

Speaker 2 So he must be, you know, he must be good because everyone's there. Everyone's showing up at Largo.

Speaker 2 Every comic we've had on this show, maybe with the notable exception of just a few, has I've seen their picture at Largo over the last six months. It's insane.

Speaker 2 And then some we haven't had, like Conan. Right.
Well, they do music and stand-up. They're known for a lot of things.
So, anyway, so Rory

Speaker 2 is a very diverse, very well-rounded actor and comedian. And I just couldn't be more excited.
This is like a personal.

Speaker 2 Yes. It's a personal.

Speaker 2 I'm personally fanboying just a little bit because Those Who Can't is great. And you can't find it anywhere.

Speaker 2 So I implore you, the listener, to write into True TV or whoever owns the rights, I think it's True TV, to

Speaker 2 release the hounds. Release the those who can't.

Speaker 2 Oh, and Rory has a special that came out about a year ago to Much Valley who I think it was like kind of all over the place. A lot of press about it.

Speaker 2 Religion, Sex, and a Few Things in Between is now on streaming on Max plus minus HBO plus minus.

Speaker 2 It's on that HBO, yeah, that Discovery TLC. But it's on that app.
I watched it over the last couple of days. I thought it was brilliant.
It really is very funny. Brilliant.

Speaker 2 He's also on tour.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's also on tour. So all the links in the show notes to all of that get tickets to his tour.
And all of his, you know, his Instagram, his TikTok, all of his social handies, his handies.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking about that auto-blow tour. And Shandy.
I'm thinking about the auto-blow.

Speaker 2 Right before this, we got pitched a device. You know, for us to advertise.

Speaker 2 Let me break down the fourth wall for the 50,000th time on this show.

Speaker 2 It takes a lot of work to book this show, and Astrid and the great team at CTB book the show, the guests on the show.

Speaker 2 But that doesn't mean that we also don't get pitched a lot of guests outside of that kind of circle of trust that we have, so to speak. The tree of trust, the nest, the safe nest.

Speaker 2 And we get pitched so many guests through our general mailbox, like PR people just, you know, throwing auto-generated emails, I'm sure, out there.

Speaker 2 And we got the most interesting one about an hour ago. The

Speaker 2 creator and owner of the Auto Blow Machine, which is, I guess, the world's best auto-masturbator. I'm sure Rory's going to love that.
This is the intro to his DCV.

Speaker 2 But the Auto Blow Machine is one of these, like, it's a huge contraption. It almost looks like a humidifier.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes, it's like mine. It's like a small VW bus.
But this one, you have to plug plug into the wall. At least mine was chargeable.
You can take it off the plug.

Speaker 2 But this one you plug into the wall and then you sit it on yourself. And then it just like does its thing, auto-blowing you to completion.

Speaker 2 Auto-blowing you to completion. And there's a...
You can sync it with real-life porn movies.

Speaker 2 So there's some porn movies where you can, I guess, like Pink Floyd's Dark Side Side of the Moon and Wizard of Oz, you can start it both at the credits and then it'll auto-blow you to completion, just like the movie.

Speaker 2 There's something for everyone.

Speaker 2 So anyway, probably not going to have that guy on as a guest, but maybe, I don't know, maybe that's what we should do. Maybe that's where we get our.

Speaker 2 I'm going to tell him. I say, if I get 30% of any sales that come from the commercial break, I'll probably be a millionaire after that episode.

Speaker 2 Everyone's going to be like, I got an auto-blow, a TCB auto-blow.

Speaker 2 a TCB. We could do a collab.
Yeah, we could do a collab, a TCB collab with the auto-blow guy. Well, I mean, it does tie in with the EPMs.

Speaker 2 It does. Listen, it's not above us to have.
It's not like I'm saying we're too good to have the auto-blow guy on. We're not.
It's just, can we actually have a conversation with the auto-blow guy

Speaker 2 without getting electrocuted? That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 I don't trust something you got to plug in. I I just don't.
I'm not putting that thing on my dick.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry. It's just not happening.

Speaker 2 I don't, I like to hide what I'm doing my thing because I don't even want to see me.

Speaker 2 I was talking to somebody

Speaker 2 a couple of months ago, and they were like, Yeah, it's kind of weird. You know, you're in the mirror doing your thing.
And I'm like, in the mirror? You're doing the mirror? You're watching yourself?

Speaker 2 In the mirror. That's gross.
I feel bad for Astron.

Speaker 2 I like to turn the lights off. So at least she doesn't have to look at this while she's trying to auto-blow herself to completion.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 good times. And, anyways, back to you.
Anyway, back to Rory.

Speaker 2 Rory's here.

Speaker 2 Rory's on tour. He's got that special.
He's been in physical. He's been in those who can't, which you cannot watch anywhere.
So I don't know why I'm talking about it.

Speaker 2 Well, I got you through. It was your

Speaker 2 emotional support video series that got you through.

Speaker 2 My Northwest Spain adventure with the Airbnb that had no air conditioning, chickens, and no internet or television.

Speaker 2 Which, hey, listen, I'm sure that for some people, that's like, you know, that's the best thing that ever happened. Yeah, that's the best thing that ever happened.

Speaker 2 But for me, it was the worst thing that ever happened because I was like, wait, I got to sit around with my extended family and talk.

Speaker 2 With no distraction? And no Waffle House around. That's right.

Speaker 2 I think we were there for about a day and a half, two days.

Speaker 2 If I recall the story before we took off to a hotel, I did.

Speaker 2 I think I remember you coming back and saying that. Couldn't do it.
Couldn't do it. We left the rest of the family there, and Astrid's like, I already know.
I came to her and I'm like, honey.

Speaker 2 And she goes, I already know. I booked a hotel.
I booked a hotel. And I'm like, all right, yeah.

Speaker 2 But those who can't, I downloaded it onto my phone while holding my phone up in the middle of the street, trying to get my neighbor's internet in Spain while the chickens were coming after me.

Speaker 2 I didn't even know chickens were nocturnal. That's the weirdest thing.

Speaker 2 I know.

Speaker 2 I pictured them like roosting down for the evening

Speaker 2 in their little house. Yeah, and then all of a sudden,

Speaker 2 like the Wi-Fi waves are going through their brains and they're like,

Speaker 2 They were chasing me. They thought it was morning time.
They thought, oh, this guy's here to feed us. And I said, no, I'm here to look for internet.
Get off my leg. Get away.
They're scary.

Speaker 2 They're when they're that big. Well, it was a rooster, actually, and he was not happy that I was hanging out near his

Speaker 2 ladies. Yeah, he was defending the hen house.

Speaker 2 I said, listen, it doesn't even work for human women, so it's not going to work for chickens. Don't worry about it.
I'm good. I'm just looking for some true TV comedy.
That's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 So let's do this. So before we get way far off track,

Speaker 2 check out Rory's special. If he's coming close, close, get some tickets to his tour.
We got lots to discuss with him. So let's do this.
Why don't we take a break, Chrissy?

Speaker 2 And when we get back through the magic of telepodcasting, you and I will have Rory right here in my living room, essentially. Well, bam.
We'll buy him.

Speaker 2 We'll buy him.

Speaker 2 I wish I could do that, but I'm too throaty today to do one.

Speaker 2 It sounds real now. It's like,

Speaker 2 we're on our 10th fake spring around here, and the pollen and it's starting to snow pollen in Atlanta because it rained over the weekend and it was warm and now it's cold. So that what happens?

Speaker 2 The trees jizz pollen directly into my sinuses and then I've got a tree semen based infection in my nose. That's what happens.

Speaker 2 Sock puppet like Ari sock puppet.

Speaker 2 That was funny. That was funny.
All right. We'll talk lots more about all that jazz when we get back with our good friend.

Speaker 2 Our good friend. With hopefully our friend

Speaker 2 Scoville, will be back.

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Speaker 2 And Rory's here with us now. Thank you for your time.
Very grateful to have have you here with us today.

Speaker 4 Yeah, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 Where in the world are you located?

Speaker 4 I am in Denver, Colorado.

Speaker 2 Hi.

Speaker 4 As of, I don't know, six months or something.

Speaker 2 How do you like Denver? Yeah, how do you like Denver?

Speaker 4 Love it. Absolutely love it a lot.

Speaker 2 You are originally from Greenville, South Carolina. Is that right? Yeah, right around the corner from where we are.
We're here in Atlanta. I'm up there all the time.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Greenville has become quite the little, like a little pocket of cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I didn't didn't know that i went and saw a pearl jam there like maybe like seven or eight years ago and we spent a couple days in greenville and just kind of darted around to from here to there and i thought what a cool fucking city that i have never thought twice about living an hour and a half away and

Speaker 4 you know it's now very uh it's very popular it's always on the list of top 10 mid mid-sized cities in the country uh which has not been a good thing for them yeah because it has now flooded the city and now real estate is crazy in a negative way.

Speaker 4 If anyone grew up there, it's like, I'm going to buy a house now.

Speaker 2 It's like, well, $700,000. And that price is substantially higher, if not for the fact that you guys can't stop advertising how great a city you are.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 we see the commercials all the time. I think I saw a billboard one time.
It was like, Greenville is second to Atlanta and we don't want it. Or Greenville is Atlanta number two.
We don't want it.

Speaker 2 Or something along those lines.

Speaker 2 It was like the Greenville tourism board said, please don't come. We're not interested in your bullshit.
Yeah, you know what? We're not great after all. Right.

Speaker 2 We are the armpit of Atlanta. Don't bother.

Speaker 2 It's a great jaunt. If you, I mean, if you live here in Atlanta, you can go an hour and a half away.

Speaker 2 But I do understand places like Asheville and Charleston and, you know, these places, Charleston has always been a tourist city, but Charleston also is just like overrun with tourists, like every other tourist town in the world.

Speaker 2 And places like Greenville, which are like these tertiary cities, they get inundated with human beings that go there for the weekend.

Speaker 2 And then they decide, since I can now work from home, let me go live there. And then people like Rory's family have to pay $850,000 for a thousand square foot dump shack.

Speaker 2 And people are like, fuck, what happened? This used to be $100,000. Your parents still live there? I mean, your family still live there?

Speaker 4 I've got a lot of family there, and I've got, I'm one of seven

Speaker 4 siblings.

Speaker 2 And sisters,

Speaker 4 the three oldest all moved away. My older sister lives in Virginia.
I live in Denver. And then my sister just after me lives in Seattle.

Speaker 2 Okay. So one of seven.
So what

Speaker 2 are your, how did you grow up? Did you grow up Catholic, Christian? Catholic. Catholic.
Had to be Catholic. Had to be Catholic.

Speaker 2 I want to make the assumption, but I wanted to make the assumption.

Speaker 4 That's the best joke ever. And

Speaker 4 it's such an old classic of his. I mean, before he was wildly famous, it was just always like, whenever someone says how many kids they have, they always say Catholic.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So my mother passed away when I was really young, and it was me and my older sister. My dad remarried

Speaker 4 when I was six or seven, and then

Speaker 4 five half siblings.

Speaker 2 Okay. Geez, it's like a little Brady Bunch situation going on.
We're an army.

Speaker 4 We're a Brady Bunch army.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Okay.
And so you're, so where do you fit in the group? Second oldest. Second oldest.

Speaker 2 of all seven. Wow, it's got to be, that's got to be in, so I'm one of four.

Speaker 2 My mom was one of eight good Catholic, you know, upbringing. My mom wanted more.
My dad, I think, understood that this is it. This is the limit.
I don't have any.

Speaker 2 I don't know how many more credit cards I can. Oh, right.
He's like, the money isn't increasing

Speaker 2 because the people are. That's right.
That's right. And we're all going to Catholic school, like little good Catholic children.
We're all going to Catholic school.

Speaker 2 Did you go to Catholic school all your life?

Speaker 4 I did kindergarten through eighth grade,

Speaker 4 as did all seven of us. And then my older sister and I are the only two that then went to a private Episcopalian high school.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 4 I went there until I basically failed 10th grade.

Speaker 4 And my dad was like, this is so expensive. What are we doing?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I went to public high school and was immediately on the high honor roll.

Speaker 2 No shit. Well, yeah, because.

Speaker 2 So when I was, I lived in Chicago, born in Chicago, and I go to Catholic grade school there.

Speaker 2 And for those of you that aren't Catholic, you may not understand that the Archdiocese, at least when I went to school, and I'm sure maybe Rory too, the Archdiocese will fund, they will fund some of your education if you are Catholic and you attend one of their Archdiocese churches, right?

Speaker 2 So like here in Atlanta. So when we were in Chicago, the education was mostly free.

Speaker 2 I think they paid a couple hundred dollars a month for whatever, and then the uniforms and then the, and then the, and then the. But when we got here, my dad was just like, I just moved here.

Speaker 2 I have a new job. I don't know how long I'm going to have the job.
I got to, I'm sorry, guys, you're going to have to go

Speaker 2 sixth grade. You're going to have to do middle school out of the frying pan, into the fire.

Speaker 2 The difference between the two educations was, and I went to one of the nicest suburban middle schools in the country, and I felt like I was getting eaten up by a big wall, a flower.

Speaker 2 I mean, like a big

Speaker 2 dragonfly. It was crazy how much different

Speaker 2 the attitudes, moods, and just having 700 children in your grade was, right?

Speaker 2 So when I go, then we go back to

Speaker 2 Catholic school after sixth grade because my dad realized that we were

Speaker 2 the black eye that I had for the entire year was probably not good for my confidence. And my dad found a way to get it done.
And here's the point.

Speaker 2 We get to sixth grade, we get to seventh grade in the private school, back in Catholic school.

Speaker 2 And within three months, the teachers are like, we've actually got to hold them back a grade because I don't think they learned much in that sixth grade.

Speaker 2 You just, there's a difference between the edge, the speed at which they educate you when there's 15 kids in the class versus 500.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's intense.

Speaker 2 And so you, you hit high honor roll in the

Speaker 2 public.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 I was ADHD, still ADHD. I don't think there stops, but or maybe it does.
Maybe we're learning now that our diets contribute heavily to that.

Speaker 4 I was diagnosed in high school, and I could not have been a more obvious case.

Speaker 4 And they put me on Ritalin to start, and it messed with my appetite.

Speaker 4 So then they put me on Adderall and this is you know this is the 90s when it's like the go-go 90s. Yeah, the ADHD of it all is kind of new to the

Speaker 4 world of something that someone has. And even still

Speaker 4 someone would just say, well, you're choosing to not pay attention.

Speaker 4 And what's so funny or interesting about that is that the person with ADHD, myself, was always being told that by an adult where I was like, oh, yeah, I must not be choosing to pay attention.

Speaker 4 As opposed to arguing on my own behalf of it's must be something beyond a choice.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you, you're, it's like the, it's, it's like a, it's like a continuation of the Catholic guilt.

Speaker 2 It's like, and, and I mean, we, we know this uniquely as Catholics going to Catholic school, but you are not applying yourself. You are not focused.
You cannot sit still.

Speaker 2 And it's like in your head, you're thinking, what is this original sin that I'm born with that I can't sit here and pay attention?

Speaker 4 Well, I think you set you buy into it because the way your brain works is that if there's something you're even slightly interested in, you almost crush at it.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So hard because you're, you're in it.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And if you're not even interested, even a little bit, you can't fake it. You cannot turn your brain on to retain any information.

Speaker 4 So it's always like interesting to me to be like, you're choosing to not pay attention. It's like, well, I wouldn't choose to fail 10th grade.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't choose to walk into a test and always panic, not knowing what to do. Anyways, going back, they put me on Adderall

Speaker 4 and I immediately start just soaring. Like, my grades are incredible.

Speaker 4 Um, but the downside is that, uh, probably to surprise to no one, is that I would go home and do my homework, and then I would just sit in my room, like in a chair with just my mind, zero stimulation, and just spiral out into deep thought about anything existential.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 in a way where

Speaker 4 deep personal thought like that can be healthy, but the adder all wouldn't release me from it. I would just be sort of stuck in that and it would depress me.

Speaker 4 And then before college, I took myself off of it. And I

Speaker 4 just sometimes think that there's just predetermined choices. I don't know why I took myself off of it, but I had an instinct that this was not good for me.

Speaker 4 And I took myself off of the thing that was making my grades

Speaker 2 incredible. And I was like, no.

Speaker 2 You know, this,

Speaker 2 I feel like you and I have a very similar story because I also, in 11th grade, I had, there was a lot of trouble. There's some family strife, but I also was one of those kids.

Speaker 2 who was diagnosed with ADHD. I have a twin brother.

Speaker 2 And I think what happened is that me and my twin brother kind of suffered the same fates in a lot of situations because they didn't, there weren't that many twins and they didn't know what else to do.

Speaker 2 If you're ADHD, then you can't not do this and you have to do this and we'll all go together and we're just doing it that way. And they put me on Adderall, Riddle, excuse me.

Speaker 2 They put me on Riddlein and it made me so anxious and I would sweat up a storm.

Speaker 2 You know, you're already, I'm already, I'm already Irish, so I'm schfitzing all over the place, you know, like these huge armpit stains, but then I'm wearing these coats in the middle of winter just to cover these armpit stains.

Speaker 2 But I would go to class and I would just be so intensely focused on something and so nervous at the same time about everything. And so it didn't last long.
I was there.

Speaker 2 I was on that for maybe two or three months. And when I took it off, I found a way to kind of focus in on things.
But yeah, but these kids, they're on really intense stimulants.

Speaker 2 I also took myself off of mainly cocaine is mainly what I took myself off of. It's essentially meth.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's meth. And then you, you know, nowadays you take

Speaker 4 everything with a grain of salt because someone is feeding you real science and then someone's feeding you fake sounds. And you're like, just give me the truth.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 4 I'll do it if you just tell me the thing to do.

Speaker 4 But I saw some study about kids being fed healthier foods, and that's a contributing factor. I've also listened to podcasts talking about how trauma is a contributing factor to ADHD.
So it's,

Speaker 4 I don't know what any of it is, but I will say eating healthier, I'm finally able to read a book without reading each page five times.

Speaker 2 Oh my God, isn't that the worst? Isn't that the worst? I got into that phase in my 30s, too. You had to read it each time.

Speaker 2 Do you find as you're getting older that you're paying more attention to the, I think it's like kind of like the butterfly effect.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know that all of these things are connected, but I feel like if one thing is affecting one thing, then it must be affecting the other. In other words, it all kind of is interconnected.

Speaker 2 So if you're eating better and you're addressing past traumas or situations in your life that may be locked inside your head or weighing you down emotionally, if you take care of those things, address those things, it can only improve everything a little bit more, right?

Speaker 4 Oh, I agree a million percent. I think that foundation is healthy eating and then getting

Speaker 4 healthy sleep.

Speaker 2 Sleep, yeah.

Speaker 4 And so many contributing factors that we're starting to learn are massive

Speaker 4 contributors to just a healthier life.

Speaker 4 And yet, for some reason, there are people out there that pretend as though we fully understand the human experience and that none of that stuff can be true, and they would rather defend horrific eating habits and chemicals in our food.

Speaker 4 And they look at you as though you're lumped in with people who come up with wild conspiracy theories, and you're not.

Speaker 4 It's like, yeah, if you have a food company and you don't want to pay a lot of money, you might cut corners. Yeah.
Cutting corners, we now know can sometimes lead to cancer.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's like the far fast

Speaker 4 idea. It's just someone wanted to save money, And at the time, they didn't know that it would be detrimental to our health.
Correct.

Speaker 4 And just because we know it now doesn't mean we're conspiracy theorists. It means, hey, let's just try to write the path here.

Speaker 4 And instead of doing that, some people would rather go, no, McDonald's is an American tradition.

Speaker 2 People are,

Speaker 2 I think they get stuck in their heads and they get stuck in their ways. And I think also, and you, I know you know this because I watch your special and I

Speaker 2 sense that you're on to this, is that the tribalism is so strong that if you

Speaker 2 everything

Speaker 2 is about one or the other, black or white, when everything's really gray, it's like if you believe in eating healthy, then you must be one of these health conspiracy nuts who believes every, you know, big McDonald's, big McDonald's is a big conspiracy to keep us all fat and ugly and weighed down.

Speaker 2 But, and you voted for that. girl or you voted for this guy, but that's not the truth.
You can evolve. Like we can evolve and not

Speaker 2 that um you know 5g waves are going to activate the covet vaccine and send us all to hell but that eating you know not eating mcdonald's every day for lunch is probably not good for us you there is a middle space there where you can believe those two things can be true at the same time yeah it's it's about um

Speaker 4 i think you know there's certain things you can if someone says look 5g is these waves out in the world that cause cancer you can go all right well i don't know what you want me to do about that yeah but if there is something to be done about that, I could probably on a local communal level start to defend the fact that I think there should be accountability for local politicians and government employees on the most local district level and then regional and then statewide.

Speaker 4 And then eventually you go, well, if that accountability has grown into a beautiful flower, then more than likely we'll get to hear the truth about what 5G

Speaker 2 is doing. It's true.
Because we will have unmuddied the waters.

Speaker 4 But instead, to your point, people get very tribalistic and they don't realize how driven they are by their own egos that they can't put it away.

Speaker 4 And the irony is that a lot of them are deeply religious.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I think that's supposed to teach you to get rid of your ego.

Speaker 2 I think it is. You know, but you know,

Speaker 2 you did this special on HBO on Max. It's streaming now on Max.
It's brilliant. It's really good.
Thank you. You're welcome.
And

Speaker 2 you go right at it, right from the beginning.

Speaker 2 You hit right at the kind of the gut of religion. What is your, where are you now?

Speaker 2 Where are you now in kind of your evolution about religion? You grew up Catholic, went to Catholic school just like I did.

Speaker 2 Something turned me off big time about the theocracy and some of the idiocracy. And I was just having this conversation with my dad yesterday, which was not a comfortable conversation,

Speaker 2 because he said that Conclave, the movie, was Hollywood pushing a liberal agenda on it. And I was like, Dad,

Speaker 2 anyway, I said, Dad, you know the Catholic Church has been a hiding ground, like literally a place for

Speaker 2 gay men and women to go hide for years. And the fact that the Pope...
might or might not understand that is not a Hollywood conspiracy that's been written. It's the truth.

Speaker 2 But anyway, where do you stand in religion as an adult?

Speaker 4 I don't adhere to it. And it isn't because I despise it.

Speaker 4 I think that a lot of early education, going to church, being taught about Jesus from a child standpoint, I

Speaker 4 learned a lot about

Speaker 4 Jesus. Yeah.
And my perception was this is the blueprint of what everyone is supposed to try to, to, you know, aspire to

Speaker 4 is to behave this way and to treat others this way. And I think anything beyond that is just so unnecessary.
It's also wildly outdated. Like that one element of how to be a person

Speaker 4 is universal and eternal. That will never change.
Yes. All the other minutia

Speaker 4 has nothing to do with anything. It has literally zero zero importance to educating

Speaker 4 people to simply conduct themselves respectfully and to treat others respectfully. You don't need the rest of it.
And so I think

Speaker 4 from what I can gather, watching, listening to modern Christianity, and this extends probably to other religions. I just know.
Christianity. But to me, the modern version of it has lost sight of that.

Speaker 4 And the only reason I say that is because of the people who tell me they're Christian, and then I see their actions.

Speaker 4 The words can always be the words, but that was another thing we learned as a kid. Yes.
That the words don't matter.

Speaker 2 No. It's all the actions.

Speaker 4 And so that's all I'm going off of is a politician or a political leader or a religious leader or people who locally want to go out and be religious and be sort of street evangelicals, just listening to them, feeling them, sensing what energy they're putting beyond what they're saying,

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. I'm like, that just does, to me, doesn't line up with

Speaker 4 Jesus and it doesn't line up with improving

Speaker 4 or opening people's eyes.

Speaker 4 Sadly, I think religion is really kind of a communal club. It's another great example that we as humans crave community.
That's it. It's unfortunate that it's now been tainted.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's so tainted and it adds to the tribalism. And now it's political, which is just crazy to me because that was.

Speaker 2 My dad as a kid, I don't know, maybe your parents were like this also.

Speaker 2 My dad.

Speaker 2 I remember this specifically during one of the elections, like the first Clinton election, second Clinton election, when I was aware enough that an election was happening and I asked my dad, who did you vote for?

Speaker 2 And he looked at me and he said, you never somebody that question. He said, you never asked somebody that question.
He's my fucking father. He wouldn't tell me who he voted for, which was insane.

Speaker 2 But I long for those. I long for the day.
Yeah. I long for the day

Speaker 2 when you didn't. But, you know, you are, I think

Speaker 2 you and I think a lot alike about this. And I know Chrissy does too, because we've talked a lot about it on the show.
It's like religion in and of itself is not the evil creature. It is.

Speaker 2 It can be a conduit to such great things, but it can also be a conduit to money, power, and violence. And it has been throughout history.

Speaker 2 If you look, it's probably done a little bit more bad than it has good. But it really begins and ends with do unto others.

Speaker 2 That's it. And that story has been told, that story was told seven times before Jesus Christ supposedly even walked on the earth.
This, this kind of the same story.

Speaker 2 And I love that you wrap in this new special, or it's not new now, but it's been out for about what, a year? A year, about a year. Yeah.
It's so good.

Speaker 2 And you wrap this in such a hilarious package, but it's pointed and it's satirical and it's improvisational i would imagine at moments and it's just really good it's really sharp and and you go at it and the audience seems to be with you because it's hard to defend it's hard to knock common sense like it's just hard to knock common sense yeah i i'm addicted to it let me tell you

Speaker 4 my earliest days of doing stand-up i just always was drawn to hypocrisy even my own and i gotta say like you can become a better person through your craft if I'm going to go on stage and talk about other people's hypocrisies, then I'm confronted by my own.

Speaker 4 And I have to say also, if I'm going to go on stage and talk about someone else's behavior, then I have to confront my own past behavior and reconcile, do I think I'm an improved person now?

Speaker 4 I think a lot of people just want to be born into a world where they go, this is what I was taught, and this is who I am, and this is how it is. It's wildly

Speaker 4 bland and incredibly boring. I think it's wildly more interesting for someone to go, I have made many mistakes.
And you go, well, then who are you now?

Speaker 4 Because if you're past those mistakes, then you're living a human, real human life.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 exactly.

Speaker 4 If you can come to those terms and say, I didn't used to treat people well, if you come to those terms and go, I used to,

Speaker 4 I mean, these aren't specific to me, but I did grow up in South Carolina.

Speaker 4 I did used to make inappropriate jokes that were maybe racial or misogynistic. And maybe I didn't have respect for women the same way in college where I was just like being a college guy.

Speaker 4 I didn't, I know when you use this as an example, people and people think, well, what did you do?

Speaker 2 What did you do, Rory?

Speaker 4 I just mean I wasn't a gentleman. I just mean that I didn't look at women to be like, oh, we're all equals in this way.

Speaker 4 And I don't look now at that space in my life.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I wish I wasn't like that. But I don't look at it with embarrassment or shame because that is what led me to where I am now, where I'm not that way.
Yes.

Speaker 4 I can have a different perspective of it. And I just think we have a lot of people that think they've lost if they admit that they weren't right the whole time.
Yes.

Speaker 4 And they don't understand that you can't bring other people

Speaker 4 towards something that's a little more peaceful if you can't even see

Speaker 2 your faults. That's right.

Speaker 4 And I think people think, well, I don't want to have faults.

Speaker 4 It's like, it's the most common thing we all every single person varying degrees of these faults and it's like you know obviously when you have faults that are

Speaker 4 we're now talking about the law that's a different story right yeah

Speaker 2 yes

Speaker 4 I'm talking about faults where people just go socially I could have been a better person. I could have been more respectful.
I could have defended someone at a time when they needed to be defended.

Speaker 4 And instead, I decided to join the side of the bully, or I decided to talk to people like that. You know, I think people just don't want to admit that

Speaker 4 at some point they were kind of a bad person.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I'm happy to admit that I was, I would much rather spend time with a person

Speaker 2 who was a real shithead,

Speaker 2 but is now becoming self-aware or has become self-aware and is doing their best than to spend

Speaker 2 time with someone who's pious but won't give up the idea that they're ever wrong and because that is the worst sin quote unquote to me yeah is our right fighters like okay man you know at all expenses you have to be right but maybe you were wrong maybe you were wrong and you know what the biggest lesson that i've learned i think over the in my marriage and i learned this and i think it's the most valuable lesson i have ever learned it is not

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 2 top of the mountain is not always to be right. You have to learn which hills to die on, and you can always evolve.
Your thought can always evolve. You don't always have to be right.

Speaker 2 You don't always have to hold on to the idea that this is the way it always will be.

Speaker 2 The only thing that never changes is that everything always changes. And I would like to think we all learn that lesson at some point.
But man, do I know a whole lot of fucking people who just don't?

Speaker 2 They just don't. They're just so stuck.
And that's okay. That's their, that's also their lot.
And so

Speaker 2 let them carry on with it. I'm going to be wrong a lot more than I'm ever going to be right.
But I'm also quick to admit when I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 This whole podcast, all thousand hours of it, is a testament to how wrong Brian is.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of examples.

Speaker 2 I can be right. And I think conversely, a lot of people are quick to say this person was wrong, and we can never allow them back in the circle.
Yeah, that's true. Kick them out.
That's true.

Speaker 2 And I think,

Speaker 2 and I agree, there are some things that have been, we've talked about this ad nauseum on this show, but you know, Harvey Weinstein, probably never coming back in the circle.

Speaker 2 Those are just things you can't, they're hard to forgive and you don't want to be around that character.

Speaker 2 But some people, sometimes you say stuff, and then years later, you realize that was a real shitty thing I said. And if you can learn from it, okay, come back, you know, all right, come back.

Speaker 2 You're all right. You're okay, cool.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, I think a lot of people don't realize the currency of

Speaker 4 genuinely showing remorse and asking forgiveness. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, it's hard to see.

Speaker 4 I don't really understand the admission of like when this is such a great example, and it's not mine, but when you like are at someone's house and you knock something over, you break it, and you immediately take ownership and try to make it right by going, oh, I'll pay, I'll, you know, I did this.

Speaker 2 I'll clean it up. I'll pay for it.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think people don't understand like

Speaker 4 more than likely, the person's just like, oh, it's fine. Like they almost feel bad that you did this.

Speaker 4 And it's just because you nearly took accountability.

Speaker 2 You said, yeah, I shouldn't have

Speaker 4 whatever I did. I knocked this thing.
I spilled my drink or whatever.

Speaker 4 These are minimal things, but still, in a world of anything,

Speaker 4 we're all human. We have the ability to read each other.
Some people are forfeiting that ability. I don't know how.

Speaker 4 But a lot of us can instinctually feel each other's energy.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
You're full of shit. Yeah.
And I think that's, it's hard to see sometimes when it's wrapped up in PR spin and

Speaker 2 statements or just, you know, I guess now we just break the rules and don't apologize. And

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't want to get into anything all political.
And I love what you just said. In a world where everyone is wrong, Rory Sko.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Hey, we wanted to ask you about something because we just got fascinated.
We went down a whole rabbit hole. What is going on at Largo? Why is Largo the coolest place that's ever been?

Speaker 2 I saw you a lot at Largo during the during the

Speaker 2 COVID.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Largo is just,

Speaker 4 I mean, it's no surprise it's just an awesome space yeah that that uh i wish that smaller room was open again maybe it is now i don't know but that smaller room was great the large room was great i think it's just flanny and that whole crew

Speaker 4 know how to book it they know how to bring in cool music they know how to bring in comedy and also

Speaker 4 uh they are proof that

Speaker 4 you can have three comics go up and then bring on the saddest singer-songwriter.

Speaker 2 It won't ruin the show.

Speaker 4 The audience will enjoy this flavor, and then they'll go right back to laughing. And

Speaker 4 yeah, Largo just, I think,

Speaker 4 pushes that out there more.

Speaker 2 So the magic is in the booking because, I mean, if you go to their Instagram page and you just scroll through any given night, it's like, oh,

Speaker 2 that person, that person. Every person we've had on this show is at Largo.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think they built that reputation where if you're a comic, it's fun to perform there. Yeah.
And they take care of you, and it's a great space.

Speaker 4 And I think if you're a musician, musician, you know, you got to think like if Beck, for instance, is there a lot.

Speaker 2 Oh, really?

Speaker 4 And you think about someone, Beck, it's like, well, Beck wants to do shows that aren't show shows,

Speaker 4 but like work on his craft. It's like Largo just happens to be that great sort of, I don't want to minimize it by calling it an open mic, but it is a place to go experiment.

Speaker 4 as a proven artist where you can still go, all right, this is a fun show, but I'm going to try a song I've never done. And that crowd is going to go crazy loving it.

Speaker 4 Whereas if Beck goes out and does a tour, the audience probably doesn't want to hear, hey, here's a song I've never done.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Here's a 15-minute jazz improvisational

Speaker 2 piece. I made it up in my head when I was taking mushrooms last night.
Here you go.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 it seems like a magic room because everybody is there and everybody wants to be there.

Speaker 2 And it's like, it just feels like a real, I've never been, but then you look at it, it's rather unassuming altogether, right? And then you see everybody who's there. It's like John C.

Speaker 2 Riley dressed up as a 1930s, you know, prairieman singing opera. It's like, that's just the weirdest shit that's going on there.

Speaker 4 It's great. They have a cool vibe.

Speaker 2 You have done so much. So you're,

Speaker 2 I think you're pretty well known for your improvisational skills. You've got now stand-up specials, Netflix,

Speaker 2 most recently on Mac. Did you produce that with Conan O'Brien? Is that right, Team Coco?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 How was that experience?

Speaker 4 It's great. Conan has been very supportive for a wildly long time.

Speaker 4 He is great.

Speaker 2 How did you guys get connected?

Speaker 4 I did his show. I did his show with John Dore

Speaker 2 over

Speaker 4 12 years ago, something like that.

Speaker 2 The television show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we just went on Conan's, you know, Conan.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And we did the double booking kind of sketch bit, and it crushed. And I was blown away that Conan even allowed that to be on the show.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's crazy. It's such a risk as a joke.

Speaker 4 And then he let us come back and do another thing, and that also worked. And I think after that, he was just like, I think you and John are funny.
I think you individually are funny.

Speaker 4 I think that you guys, you know, try to push the envelope and do something different. And so,

Speaker 4 yeah, all my appearances,

Speaker 4 he just got behind it and let me try weird stuff.

Speaker 2 And then I toured with him for a few dates when he was not allowed to be not when he was not allowed to be on tv but when he was um trying to do stand-up yeah yeah and that was a wild period of time for him by the way th that kind of in-between space for conan he came to atlanta and they literally 50 000 people showed up at the turner campus it was crazy and they and everybody went nuts um so it must be nice to have a guy like conan who has you know is really revered and respected we love everyone loves conan right conan's one of those guys it's hard to root against Conan.

Speaker 2 It must be nice to have that kind of mentorship of someone who has done it, been there, been knocked down, gotten back up.

Speaker 2 He's really made a name for himself. But you've done the stand-up.
You've done the improvisational. You've done sketch, you know, comedy.
You've done television comedy.

Speaker 2 You did physical, which was a great role, I think. We were just talking about that before you came on.
Is it coming back or no?

Speaker 8 It's done.

Speaker 4 No, three seasons and done.

Speaker 2 Three and done. Three and a half.
There was a lot of unanswered stuff.

Speaker 4 I know. In the middle of shooting the third season is when Apple was like, this is it.
And so Annie Weissman, the genius

Speaker 4 creator, show creator, head writer, showrunner,

Speaker 4 quickly figured out a way to try to have some kind of closure for the audience. But I'm pretty sure her vision was a five-season

Speaker 2 run. Yeah.
I could have seen that.

Speaker 4 And I think it was going to go to such a different place, but you're suddenly told, hey, you've got six more episodes or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 And so she had to pivot and wrap it up.

Speaker 4 It's really unfortunate. I think,

Speaker 4 you know, I couldn't sit here and tell you, oh, did this lose money? It's Apple. So I don't even know if they understand how to lose money.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 4 I think a lot of times nowadays, people on that side of the table, on that side of the camera, don't factor in that maybe all these audiences are owed a little bit of closure to these stories as opposed to deciding to abruptly end them.

Speaker 4 It's unfortunate for just the craft of storytelling. And it's like, hey, maybe you as executives should be doing a better job of not getting involved in buying a show.

Speaker 4 in the first place if you don't think it can execute a full story to begin with and i don't mean go eight seasons i think we get a little carried away with that too sure right but ending things on three like

Speaker 2 ending on three is tough.

Speaker 4 I think, you know, maybe look at some of these shows and go, all right, four to five,

Speaker 4 like buy a show where you think there's a story to be told for four to five seasons. And I mean that in terms of something like physical, where these aren't just episodes.

Speaker 4 You know, if I go sell a comedy that's just a funny, stupid comedy with not so much weight to the lives of these characters, well, that's a different show when it abruptly ends.

Speaker 2 Nobody needs that. That's right.
Yeah, no one's emotionally connected to it. I mean, they might like it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 They might like it, but they're not emotionally connected.

Speaker 4 I wanted to know how it ends. It's like, well, you probably don't.
You're just going to miss the laughter.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 4 But, you know, a show like Physical, it's like, you know, why not give it at least a fourth season so she can wrap it up a little more eloquently?

Speaker 2 I think this is the downside. And I think there's a lot of downsides, but I think this is the

Speaker 2 wonderful part about Prestige TV and the ability to throw cash at creative ideas and allow them to manifest themselves in beautiful ways is great.

Speaker 2 But the downside is once the press gets out there, and physical is great, and everybody watches physical and they see a bump in subscribers, we're going to season two, but then it doesn't happen again in season two.

Speaker 2 It's just like, guys, sorry, we got to let that go. And so you get these kind of, there are so many great shows: Netflix, Hulu, Apple, Amazon, that have three subscribers.
Three and done.

Speaker 2 That's it. Three and done.
Because I think that's the natural arc of subscriber acquisition due to the show. It's like once the press fades out, it's like

Speaker 4 when you go fill you in, it's after that third season is when you have to renegotiate contracts.

Speaker 4 They'd rather not pay us actors more money. And so instead they go, let's just end the show.
And we'll save that money and go start another show. Yeah.
And then at season three, we'll end that show.

Speaker 4 And so it's

Speaker 4 unfortunate because it's art that is storytelling.

Speaker 2 Human nature.

Speaker 4 Storytelling Storytelling is our most natural human thing, I think, in terms of like our

Speaker 4 connection.

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 4 Definitely. And instead of supporting it, it's just like, well, we don't want to pay you more money.

Speaker 4 And it's like, well, you've already changed everything where your profits are more than they used to be.

Speaker 4 You're paying us less than we used to make.

Speaker 4 And also, streaming has absolutely destroyed

Speaker 4 what used to be, where someone could just go be on a show for a couple seasons and actually do great with royalties.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 4 But instead,

Speaker 2 it's one paycheck and done. Or residuals, I mean.
Yeah, residuals. But instead,

Speaker 4 that doesn't exist anymore. And it's kind of one and done and get out of our face.
And you're like, all right. And also things just, there's so much content now.
It's tough.

Speaker 4 I got to say, I'm fortunate to be a stand-up comic, but living in the world we live in now economically, I don't know how sustainable all this stuff actually is.

Speaker 2 I don't see it either. I don't see it either.
I think it's,

Speaker 2 Chrissy and I have talked about this, and I kind of take this contrarian stance that Netflix broke something that was not broken. We may not have loved everything about it, but

Speaker 2 the kind of the way that cable carried television shows into our into our homes and allowed good television to stay around.

Speaker 2 You know, there was something there. And now, yes, we have endless choices, but

Speaker 2 there's no discovery is hard. If your show's not getting a bunch of press, it's just going to get buried.
You know, the story arcs last for a season, maybe two, maybe three.

Speaker 2 And it's just really tough as the viewer because you get emotionally. Imagine if severance ended tomorrow.
We'd all go throwing our heads through a wall.

Speaker 2 Well, physical was good, and there's not a lot of closure around it, as is those, those who can't. And that was one of my favorite television shows of all time.
So here's the story.

Speaker 2 I go, I was lucky enough to take a big, long trip in Spain. My wife is Venezuelan and Spanish and we have family in Spain.
So we said, let's go spend a month in Spain. Let's take the kids.

Speaker 2 They're young. We're going to go spend a month in Spain.
And we traveled all around. We get to the north of Spain.

Speaker 2 And my wife had rented an Airbnb that really ended up being like a working chicken farm.

Speaker 2 We were in the middle of the Andalusian mountains or wherever the hell we were. And we are on this like live chicken farm.

Speaker 2 And the Airbnb, I said, honey, the only thing I need is I need internet so that I can make sure that the show is running and that, you know, we get communication from the network and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 And she says, oh, don't worry, every Airbnb we're going to get has internet.

Speaker 2 But when we get there, the internet is coming from the owner of the house lives two doors down, which is like half a mile away.

Speaker 2 And she has internet that she then sends to, like, you know, it's in, it's like a wireless router.

Speaker 2 So if certain parts of the house, you might or might not be able to connect depending on what day or time or if the chickens are out, if they're not, or whatever.

Speaker 2 So I had downloaded, I had watched a couple of episodes of those who can't and I downloaded the end all the seasons onto my onto my phone through True TV or I think it was True TV. And

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 2 the way that I did that is in the middle of the night, I snuck out of the front of the house and the chickens followed me and tried to peck at me.

Speaker 2 They followed me and I went up to the other house and I started downloading your episodes and you kept me sane through a good portion of this trip, which I really wanted to go insane.

Speaker 2 We're in in the middle of nowhere, nothing to do. The kids are going crazy.
The chickens are shitting everywhere and trying to kill my kids. And I watched your show, and I loved it.

Speaker 2 I just wish there was so much more of it. That experience, was that a great experience making that television show? And so many comedians came on that show.

Speaker 4 Yeah, absolutely. Those three guys, Adam and Ben and Andrew,

Speaker 4 it's so funny that the

Speaker 4 start of that show was when Amazon was getting into streaming

Speaker 2 shows.

Speaker 4 And I remember this was absurd to everybody because everyone was like, Amazon is where I buy packages.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 4 And yet they were going to now do TV, so it seemed crazy, but they decided to do this competition where they would give all these applicants a certain amount of money to make a pilot.

Speaker 4 They would post all the pilots and whoever got the most views, the top two would like get. a show.

Speaker 4 And so these guys came up with this show. They hired me to play the principal.
These are my friends on the lowest budget shooting something at a high school in Denver.

Speaker 4 And I didn't take it seriously at all. I showed up to wear the most ridiculous clothes.

Speaker 2 I'll

Speaker 2 try to find a picture to send you guys of what you look like

Speaker 4 for the pilot that was never used.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 4 But I had them

Speaker 4 straight iron my hair.

Speaker 2 And I had like kind of longer hair.

Speaker 4 And it was like so creepy looking at a big beard. And I didn't take one scene seriously.
I set the lines, but I just kept trying to get them to break. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And we'd come up with stuff and we'd just like keep shooting. But at no point did it feel like a job.
Then they did the competition.

Speaker 4 They ended up getting either the most views or the second highest views. But Amazon just wanted to pick the two shows that had a celebrity on it.
So it didn't matter. The view thing never mattered.

Speaker 2 It never mattered. They just wanted someone attached to the project.

Speaker 4 And so it kind of died, and everybody was heartbroken to be like, oh, we kind of did win the thing we were told to win and nothing came of it.

Speaker 4 True TV comes along kind of a brand new platform and they decide to buy it uh from amazon which is probably i don't know the cheapest

Speaker 2 ten dollars

Speaker 4 and then they they made it and they're like do you want to come on and be the principal it's now going to be an official you know 10 episode i don't know what how many episodes we did that first season and uh i yeah i was like yeah and we i just kind of kept doing the same thing.

Speaker 4 I was like, my friends are my bosses and I'm not taking anything seriously.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 4 I say all of that to say that the reason why it was so fun and why I loved it is because at that point, I was too inexperienced to let doubt or expectations seep in.

Speaker 4 That I just had fun as an artist. And I look back now and I go, man, I wish I could somehow get back to that mental state when I step on set, even if it's a dramatic scene that has no jokes.

Speaker 4 I wish I could get back to

Speaker 4 fucking play just before.

Speaker 4 Don't put up these expectations and don't feel like.

Speaker 4 I mean, a lot of scenes I step into,

Speaker 4 you know, in something like Babylon, where it's like, here's all these stars.

Speaker 4 I walk in going, don't be the guy who gets past the ball and dribbles it out of bounds.

Speaker 4 And that's no way to be.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, don't be the guy who goes, when I catch it, I'm shooting it.

Speaker 4 And that's the mind frame you have to have to like really soar. And yeah, I look back fondly at that show because I unknowingly was in that headspace.

Speaker 2 Well, this will probably be the 300th time I've said this on the commercial break, but watch that television show. It is so fucking funny.

Speaker 2 It is one of the funniest television shows that I honestly have ever seen. I loved it from the first episode.
Send me that picture because as a fanboy, I'm going to print it and I'll put it here.

Speaker 4 I'm going to text Adam because even as I told that story, I was like, oh, I don't know where that picture is. And I would actually love to

Speaker 2 see that because I looked psychotic.

Speaker 2 And I think that's a fun part about the show. Really, honestly, I mean, all the guys are good.
Benny's great. You know, Adam's great.

Speaker 2 But you are a

Speaker 2 scene stealer in that show. It's like every time you come out, you want more of the principal because it's just so funny.
And I can only imagine.

Speaker 2 how many takes some of this took because if I was standing there,

Speaker 2 there would have been breaking all over the place for sure.

Speaker 2 What is your favorite? What is is your favorite

Speaker 2 thing to do? Is it like, are you still in love with improv? Are you feeling stand-up is where your place is? You're kind of versatile. You're one of those few who are doing all.

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess there's a number of people out there who do it, but not to great effect. You've now been in a great television show, had a great special, been in comedy TV.

Speaker 2 What is your, what, where does your heart lie?

Speaker 4 You know, it's interesting. I don't know how long you want this answer to.

Speaker 2 Well, I got all day. Yeah.
This could be wildly lengthy.

Speaker 2 Go.

Speaker 4 I will say, as someone who started to do stand-up, but also wanted to act and be in stuff,

Speaker 4 I don't know that I ever thought I'd get as far as I currently have gotten in any of the things that I've done.

Speaker 4 Like, I thought it was great just to get to be in a few commercials when I lived in New York City. I thought, oh, wow, people will see that.
Like,

Speaker 4 you're sort of driven by...

Speaker 4 I want people to see that I did succeed at stand-up. Specifically, when you say people, it's like, you know, family and friends that you grew up with.
Sure.

Speaker 4 Be like, hey, I chose a different path and I want to show you it worked out.

Speaker 4 So you're driven to sort of prove that you think you're good enough to do these things, to be an actor and maybe be in something, to be a stand-up and do it.

Speaker 2 And I think

Speaker 4 something happens where you get to a point and you realize while that might have been a good motivating factor early on, it it also is shouldn't be a motivating factor in general as an artist because you don't create anything new and you also don't necessarily put anything out there that's wildly personal or vulnerable or has the potential to fail because you are specifically trying to succeed to show other people you succeeded.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And again,

Speaker 4 I think that is a fine motivating factor early on.

Speaker 4 But then eventually you go, well, who am I doing this for?

Speaker 4 And you sort of reconfigure who you think you are as an artist. So myself, now 44, going through the thing I just described,

Speaker 4 you know, I think for a while I wanted my dad to notice me doing this.

Speaker 4 I wanted him to be like, oh, wow, my son is funny and accomplished these things. And I think that was my dad's,

Speaker 4 I think that's how he felt. My dad passed away during COVID and I kind of thought stand-up was done.
And I kind of thought most things were done,

Speaker 2 as we all sort of thought things were maybe done.

Speaker 4 But then as stand-up came back, I thought I wouldn't do it. And then I went back to it.
And I got to say, going going back to something like that is a strange thing

Speaker 4 when you are only now realizing you were sort of doing it for one audience member. It changes you when you realize you don't have that audience member anymore.

Speaker 4 And you go, well, then what is it that I'm trying to do and for who? And what am I trying to say?

Speaker 4 And it's one reason I'm so proud of that special you just watched, the one on Max, because it's probably the one that I worked the hardest at and applied myself the most.

Speaker 4 But today at 44, I realize I have done a little bit in acting and I've tried to do some at acting and I've gotten enough flavor in acting that I think if I really applied myself, I think I could get really good at acting.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Believe that I could.
I don't know it, but the suspicion is there. And then stand up.

Speaker 4 I do already know in my soul that I'm very good at stand up. I know it.
I just know it. And I think I've also only gotten so far in stand-up because I like acting and I like stand-up.

Speaker 4 And so I think I've given each

Speaker 2 of attention.

Speaker 4 And so I think that half attention

Speaker 4 success on both sides shows me, man, if I really would just kind of maybe commit to one, I could maybe really soar. And so today, as I sit here talking to you,

Speaker 4 my brain is in stand-up mode.

Speaker 4 However, I know that at the end of April, I will be going back to start shooting other stuff that I've been fortunate enough to be cast in.

Speaker 4 And I'd like to think that maybe when I go back to shoot,

Speaker 4 while also doing stand-up, I'll go, well, let's not just do enough. Let's try to be

Speaker 4 remarkable.

Speaker 4 Even if I'm only saying a couple things in this scene and I don't carry much weight, let's care more than we used to.

Speaker 2 That's my hope for you. My hope for you is you go back to your time with the guys,

Speaker 2 those who can't, and you free yourself and you focus and you say,

Speaker 2 I'm going to be the scene stealer. I'm going to be the guy who shoots the ball because I think you're really talented.
You're very good at stand-up.

Speaker 2 You are a natural storyteller. I call you a Tindral comic, and this is a complete comic compliment.
And here's why. You're a storyteller, but there are Tindrils.

Speaker 2 You go here, you go there, you bring it back. You go here, you go there, you bring it back.
It's my favorite kind of storyteller: someone who knows

Speaker 2 how to take a left turn and then get back on the road at some point. But in between, we're going to have a little laughs with this absurdity, with this craziness.

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't know if you intended this in your special, but there's a whole part where you're like, Let me get back to what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 You pull out a piece of paper, you turn around, and you do three and a half minutes with this piece of paper, two and a half minutes with this piece of paper. And I just thought it was brilliant.

Speaker 2 Is that improvised?

Speaker 2 No, no, it wasn't. Okay, it was.
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 4 It wasn't intentional, is what I mean to say.

Speaker 4 That was the second show.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 for your listeners who maybe don't know this, when you shoot a special, you shoot two or more shows for reasons of one camera didn't work during one of them. You know, it's to cover yourself.

Speaker 2 Also, what if the audience sucks during one of them? Someone sneezed when I was telling my joke. Yeah, yeah, the whole thing.

Speaker 4 And so you shoot at least two. And the first one, I did really well.
I forgot one joke, and I got off stage between, you know, setting up the next show.

Speaker 4 And I said to the whole, you know, team that was in my green room, I said, I think we got it. Like that felt good.
I just got to remember to do this one joke on the next show.

Speaker 4 And everybody in the green room was like, we got it. That was a great show.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so I'm standing behind that curtain. They're about to start the song.
And I'm about to walk out to do the second show. And I just,

Speaker 4 as I try to do, I try to clear my head. And the one thought that popped my head was like, you got it.
You already got it. So why have any fear? Why care about perfection?

Speaker 4 Let's go out and really just fuck around. And I went out and I fucked around so hard that I forgot where I was in the action.
And that's why I did naturally have to pull that paper out.

Speaker 4 And I got to say, when I turned around away from the audience, I was furious at myself because all I could think was, what am I fucking doing?

Speaker 4 I'm shooting a thing and here I am losing the momentum of the crowd that I'm going to have to get back. And for whatever reason, my brain was like, the crowd doesn't know that this isn't in the show.

Speaker 4 They don't know that I don't do this every time.

Speaker 4 So let's pretend I do this every time.

Speaker 4 And then I stood up and I go, all right, then my biggest oh fuck moment is I just, to your point, I got to get us back to the main road. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But let's not pretend as though I've never taken this left before.

Speaker 2 Let's take this left and every second act as though this was all

Speaker 2 part of the gig.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I will say that final special is mostly the second show.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 Very, very little of the first show. If there's anything you see from the first show, it's because maybe one or two jokes were better, but also it's just for camera's sake.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just the way you cut it. Yeah.
Yeah. Wow.
It's so good. I highly,

Speaker 2 you watch it.

Speaker 2 It's religion, sex, and some other things, right? Isn't that what it is? Everything in between.

Speaker 2 What is it? I'm sorry? Religion, sex, and everything in between. And everything in between.
Yeah. On Mac.
A few things in between. A few things in between.

Speaker 2 It'll be in the show notes. Well, all kinds of things.
It'll be in the show notes. Which, those few things are everything.

Speaker 2 It felt like everything.

Speaker 2 When I say Tindrel comic, that's the Tindrel comic. You should have started with that.
A few things and religion and sex.

Speaker 2 Rory Scoville,

Speaker 2 I got a million other questions. So I hope you come back.
I really

Speaker 2 am grateful for your time.

Speaker 2 Oh, and Rory is now going until

Speaker 2 April.

Speaker 2 How many shows are you doing?

Speaker 4 So I've got, I'm starting to put a lot of dates together. I got to say, I put the special out that we were just talking about in late February, a year ago

Speaker 4 of 2024. And so I'm trying to get better at getting a new hour faster.
I'm very slow about it. And a lot of that is,

Speaker 4 honestly, it's out of work ethic.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. I just, I'm like, ah, let's just go have fun on stage and let's not worry about a product.

Speaker 4 But I'm now realizing things are going so fast. You really got to get to that product a little faster.
I don't think you have to get to it as fast as people do get to it.

Speaker 4 I think that's a little too quick for me. But I could stand to speed it up a little bit.
So right now.

Speaker 4 If you were to come see me on the road, you'll be watching someone who is in the early phases of this hour. Okay.
Good hour. I love it.

Speaker 4 Hopefully in the fall, I will go out on an official tour with this hour more hammered together as like a show, which will probably admittedly have less improv.

Speaker 4 But if you're someone who likes me and you like seeing me do improv, you should come see me right after I put out a special for about eight months.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Are you coming near Atlanta?

Speaker 4 I will. I save Atlanta when it's like, for instance,

Speaker 4 when you come to Atlanta, I would wait for the fall because I'd rather come to Atlanta and go, here, guys, I'm bringing you like the show.

Speaker 2 The good show. Okay.
Well, then in fall, when you come to Atlanta, we will come see you.

Speaker 2 I will put links in the show notes as we always do to Rory's, all of his pertinent stuff, the special, how to get tickets.

Speaker 2 We really appreciate you being here today. You are a smart.
kind, empathetic, self-aware human being who also happens to be hilarious.

Speaker 4 So I appreciate that a lot, and I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 Yeah, coming from a mediocre comedy podcast host, now you can go die in peace. Brian said it.

Speaker 2 You have

Speaker 2 reached it. You've made it.
The pinnacle of your career, my friend.

Speaker 2 We often say here, when you come to the commercial break, you're either on your way up or on your way down. I'll let you figure out which one it is.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Rory. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 Let me do something Brian has never done. Be brief.

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Speaker 2 That really wasn't that difficult now, was it? You're welcome.

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Speaker 2 Ah,

Speaker 2 Rory. I really like that guy.
Oh, my God. I really like that.
He has a ghost of all kinds of stuff. Laughs, philosophy.
Laughs, philosophy, life, catechism, diets, everything.

Speaker 2 Auto blows. We didn't get to the autoblow, but maybe next time when he comes around, we'll talk to Rory about auto blow.
Yeah, that is my favorite type of conversation.

Speaker 2 I find that we have a lot of those around here, actually, is when

Speaker 2 what you may not, what you didn't see actually, what you won't see in that cut is that when we, you know, we stop and went during the commercial break, we talk to him and say, okay, goodbye.

Speaker 2 Thank you very much and all that other stuff. And he said, yeah, I really like the way you guys approach that because you just sit and have a conversation.
It's relaxed.

Speaker 2 And I said, yeah, because, you know, the this is your life type of interview. So many people do that.
And I find it, it's overdone. Like, there are some people who are really good at that.

Speaker 2 Howard Stern, really good at that. 60 minutes, really good at that.
Brian and Chrissy, we can't focus on anything for more than two minutes.

Speaker 2 So you might as well just have a conversation like you're talking to a friend. Yeah, like you're talking to the chef at the counter with the martini.
There you go.

Speaker 2 That's when you get all the good, juicy information. That's when you learn that the bread on your table is going to be the croutons and the salad tomorrow.
And trust me, no one wants that shit.

Speaker 2 No one, Chrissy.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 But I enjoyed that. I did too.
And he'll come back. He will.
He'll be back. I have a feeling.
I have a feeling that's one of the few that say they want to come back and will actually come back.

Speaker 2 Or maybe I'm wrong. I've been wrong before.
I could be wrong again. I don't know.
All right, RoryScoville.com. That's where you get all the tickets to his tour.

Speaker 2 I'm sure that all of his special information is up there, but need not even go to his website. You can just click on the links below in the show notes.

Speaker 2 All the information will be there.

Speaker 2 I'll put all the pertinent details and we'll repeat that throughout the week so that if you, you know, if you didn't hop on board on Tuesday, you can go on Friday and check it out in the show notes.

Speaker 2 That's how we do it, in case you haven't picked up on that little pattern. It's Rory Week.
It's Rory Week here at the commercial break. And we sure are grateful for his time.
Just a nice guy.

Speaker 2 Just a nice guy. I know.
Living out in Denver, too. I love Denver.
or colorado

Speaker 2 i love every state i'm all about it every state north and south dakota east and west montana they're all wonderful i love them yes they are west virginia regular virginia i love them all i've been to all of them all 48 contiguous states i have visited did you know that i have stepped foot in all four

Speaker 2 and i all 48 contiguous states and i think that is an accomplishment that every american should try now i don't i know that it takes a lot of time to do that and not everybody is you know a college dropout with a bad cocaine problem, but

Speaker 2 if you do get there in life, just keep driving. That's all I got to say.
Do a big circle. It'll be okay.
You're on tour with your favorite band. Yeah.
Oh, we didn't even ask him about Mike Gordon.

Speaker 2 Damn it. We didn't even ask him how he got up with the guy from Fish.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, that was like the most interesting question we had.
Leave it to us. Who has ADHD? Him or us? I think we're both.
I think between the two of us, we couldn't figure it out.

Speaker 2 But it was an interesting conversation. Hope you enjoyed it as much as we do.
So go to the show notes, click on his links, go see him, watch his special, you know. TCBPodcast.com.

Speaker 2 That's where you get more information about Chrissy and I. All the show notes, all the audio, all the video, right there at one location.
You can also get your free TCB swag.

Speaker 2 We'll send you a sticker if you give us your physical address. Astrid will send you one.
Take about a week or two to get there. No must, no fuss.

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Speaker 2 Questions, comments, concerns, contents, ideas, or leave us a voicemail and be the next voice of the commercial break. Okay, Chrissy, that's all I can do for now.
Bye, thanks.

Speaker 2 I'll tell you that I love you. I love you.
I'll say best to you

Speaker 2 and best to you out there in the podcast universe. Until next time, we will say, we do say, and we must say.

Speaker 2 Goodbye.

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