Local Hour: Akbar Domestique

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"Jeremy, please." The Jimmy Butler statue committee takes control of the show, and it goes completely off the rails.

Today's cast: Dan, Amin, Izzy, Roy, Billy, Jeremy, Jessica, and Tony.
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Speaker 6 Shadowing it. Shadowing it.

Speaker 8 The oddball guys made it about themselves yesterday. Like, it couldn't be about Jimmy Butler.
It couldn't be about Miami. It couldn't be about the story.
It had to be about Oddball.

Speaker 8 It had to be about how can oddball trick a journalist? How can Oddball make a name for itself on basketball's big stage?

Speaker 11 No, boy. This is how we're starting out.

Speaker 12 That's not even close to what we set out to do.

Speaker 12 What we set out to do was to honor and commemorate Jimmy Butler, and we wanted people to come up to us and share their thoughts on what a Jimmy Butler statue should look like.

Speaker 12 If there should be a Jimmy Butler statue, which most people agreed that there should.

Speaker 11 You're saying us, I mean, I don't remember you there.

Speaker 12 Well, I produced the show. Oh, okay.
I'm just saying, like, what, that was the show objective, was to have people come up and talk to us about a statue. Should there be a statue?

Speaker 12 I feel like most people, Izzy, were supportive of a statue. Very supportive.
Nobody said no statues.

Speaker 6 I mean, you had the options.

Speaker 7 Where did you find the gentleman, the artist? Where did you find him?

Speaker 12 Oh, he's known. He's known in circles.

Speaker 11 He's from the opposite side of the world.

Speaker 12 He came from all the way across the world.

Speaker 12 He's made statues of some very famous people, right?

Speaker 12 I don't remember the names.

Speaker 12 One was Abdel Khalif Mukhtar, and then the other one was Sharon Stone. Oh, and so.

Speaker 6 Diversity.

Speaker 12 Yeah, he's been around. He's done a lot of great work around the world, and we got him, and he was gracious to do it.

Speaker 12 I mean, you know, it was just a look book. It wasn't really, he wasn't like sculpting right in front of us.

Speaker 11 Sharon Stone, because Stone?

Speaker 12 I mean, you got to ask him. I don't know.
But the point is, Dan.

Speaker 12 Give it a second, at least, Jesus.

Speaker 12 The point is, is that that's what was the aim. And then the team was approached by a journalist.

Speaker 12 who was very fascinated by the work of Akbar. And so he talked to Akbar.

Speaker 8 Well, but this was Jeremy's friend. And this was embarrassing.

Speaker 6 Like, what happened? For whom?

Speaker 6 For whom?

Speaker 11 It's never whom.

Speaker 6 What do you mean?

Speaker 8 For Jeremy's friend?

Speaker 3 This is...

Speaker 11 I thought you were saying it was embarrassing for me because Jeremy's friend, a South Florida journalist, did not recognize me.

Speaker 6 That was bad.

Speaker 12 I recognized Akbar.

Speaker 4 I mean, it was a bad thing for everyone involved, right? That no one here who's of note was recognized and that journalism is clearly very, very dead.

Speaker 6 Maybe we're not as famous as that.

Speaker 11 I was the only one here.

Speaker 12 Well, Adam's very famous. He got interviewed by the media last night, so he's famous.

Speaker 2 Well, he had a giant sign in front of him that basically said, come interview me.

Speaker 8 I don't know. How could you guys, how, I know it's oddball.
I know, I get it. It's odd, ball.
I get it.

Speaker 8 But how could you guys make Jimmy Butler about you the way that you did yesterday by creating news? By creating news that appeared in the Sun Sentinel,

Speaker 8 doing so, making the day about you.

Speaker 12 Allow me, if I may. See, Dan is seeing this through his Dan glasses.

Speaker 12 In Dan's world, how can I make the, oh, guys, I got got to dress up like a chicken and then say something controversial and then people pay attention. That's how you do it.

Speaker 12 The way we do it is we actually go out and try to do the show and then accidentally, this is how it used to be, guys. Things would go, remember Boom Goes the Dynamite?

Speaker 12 That guy didn't show up that night and say, I'm going to say Boom Goes the Dynamite, and then everyone on the internet is going to talk about me.

Speaker 12 He was just trying to do his job, but the way he did his job was so magnifique that it went viral. Now you got guys like Dan Lebetard, clickbaiting, trying to go viral.
Let me say something crazy now.

Speaker 12 I'm dressed like pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 4 If it happens behind a paywall at the Sun Sentinel, did it happen?

Speaker 11 Wait, but you can read it for like five seconds before the paywall comes up. So you can get like a different grass each time.

Speaker 8 Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebetard show. If it happened behind the Sun Sentinel paywall, did it actually happen?

Speaker 6 That was a surgical slice by Billy Gill. What do you mean?

Speaker 12 You know, the crazy thing is, there were comments underneath, and I thought, for sure, the comments underneath the tweet are going going to be like, dude, that's not Akbar Domestique.

Speaker 12 That's someone else.

Speaker 6 And no, everyone's like, I don't know why Jimmy Butler should have a statue.

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Speaker 8 Does the audio not work? Okay, see if you guys can get the audio up there so that we can. Jessica, why does that delight you?

Speaker 8 You've got a little Billy in you on a wild Willie Wednesday that we can't get even the simplest things right. Is that what's making you laugh?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Okay, so sound is important in this medium, as you guys know. So if you're trying to set up a joke, you need to have sound with the video.
We've been working hard on the video. So perfect.

Speaker 8 The sound is sort of a problem at the moment. Jimmy Butler last night, that entire spectacle, the entirety of it,

Speaker 8 was sad. I was made sad by all of it.

Speaker 11 Which part specifically?

Speaker 8 That a relationship that was good with everyone involved can't even shake hands at the end. Like that can't be, that the money would get that corrosive.

Speaker 8 Look, I'm going to tell you a couple of stories here because allow me here to get here because it's going to take a second. But the nature of competitive people, okay?

Speaker 8 My brother was very competitive, okay? That's an impossible industry. Art, selling shit out of the back of your car, fighting for money because you want to do what you dream about.

Speaker 8 And at the end of his career, because somebody was getting in the way of his money, there was an 80-year-old man who runs a company that my brother was ready to fight, physically fight, because of whatever competitive is at the most competitive.

Speaker 8 Jimmy Butler is a million times more competitive than my brother, and I think Pat Riley is more competitive than that. And those two dudes want to fight.

Speaker 8 And I imagine the marketing meeting where Riley's coming into the room and telling everybody, I know we want to be class and everything, but can we say at the end?

Speaker 8 And also, bleep you, Jimmy, at the end of the video.

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 8 I want to know who talked Riley into doing that. It had to be the Arrisons.

Speaker 8 I'm going to find out because I don't know what you guys made of the emotion of that, but it wasn't just that the game was a bummer. It's that, man, that was a good relationship.

Speaker 8 That was a good relationship for everyone involved. And the money gets in the way like that.

Speaker 11 Competitiveness is overrated as just a value to have, right? Because it ruins a lot of things. It ruins relationships.
It ruins a lot.

Speaker 11 And when you talk about somebody like Steph Curry, for example, who's kind of in

Speaker 11 the center of their universe, what do people say about him? I mean, what do people say about Steph all the time? First thing they say. Nice guy.

Speaker 1 Great guy.

Speaker 11 Jimmy Butler said in a story by Anthony Slater in The Athletic, he's real, real, right? He just treats everybody really nice. You know that's not like a skill, right?

Speaker 11 You know that's something that you can just do to people, right?

Speaker 11 And so when you watch the end of that game or beginning of that game, where they don't shake hands, I mean, nobody, like Bam walks past him as if he was a stranger.

Speaker 11 And then after the game, they have, you know, not only does Jimmy just kind of slink off and go back to the back without talking to any heat players, what is every single Warrior dude that played with Andrew Wiggins, including Steph Curry, who had already gone back to the locker room, came back out to talk to Andrew Wiggins.

Speaker 3 Why?

Speaker 12 Nice guy.

Speaker 11 People love him. Like, how is that not so telling about as much as we enjoyed this Jimmy Butler experience for five plus years, it was always going to be that because that's who he is.

Speaker 11 And I'm sorry for the Warriors, but at some point he's going to be that there too.

Speaker 12 Wow, are you calling the shot now?

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, you know what?

Speaker 11 I take that back. Steph Curry could be that powerful of an alien that his power of friendship is just more, you know, stronger than everybody else's.

Speaker 11 But it's just, it was the relationship between Miami and Jimmy Butler in a nutshell last night.

Speaker 12 Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 12 He didn't leave on good terms. He didn't leave on good terms.
And again, we've made it about the root cause, which is true, I think, the money. But

Speaker 12 in his pursuit, he burned bridges inside. Before he was out of here, he burned bridges with people that he played with.
And so

Speaker 6 I didn't look at that and like, oh, they're not saying hello. I'm like, but that normally happens.

Speaker 11 Like the issues between the player and management, it's usually, hey, I'm dunking and I'm yelling at the GM on the sideline. This was just icy.

Speaker 11 This was worse than Kobe Shaq because it was nobody on that team that he wanted that Jimmy wanted to talk to. Nobody on the Miami.

Speaker 8 Can I talk to you guys about the idea of proud men being disrespected?

Speaker 8 Because when I tell you that Shaq wanted to fight Pat Riley at the end over money and disrespect, when the conversation is, and all of this starts with

Speaker 8 Jimmy saying, and I would have taken us to the finals if I hadn't been injured, and Pat Riley publicly saying, shut your mouth. Shut your mouth.
The word shut your mouth on disrespect of a proud man.

Speaker 8 When I tell you that my brother wanted to fight an 80-year-old and Jimmy Butler, Jimmy Butler, whatever he was doing in private, that's where disrespect started.

Speaker 8 And so he enters the game yesterday saying,

Speaker 8 I've got nothing to say to Pat and he better not have anything to say.

Speaker 6 To what?

Speaker 11 What is he going to do? Punch an 80-year-old?

Speaker 6 Like, what is that?

Speaker 4 What's an 80-year-old going to do? Punch him?

Speaker 4 Like, this is a ridiculous scenario in which neither person is actually going to fight the other i'd love to see them fight i really would no you wouldn't i would absolutely love to see them fight is this tough guy bullshit that they're both going back and forth oh fight him i'll fight him and neither one of them wants to actually fight the other i would love i would love for jeremy please i would love for everyone to just kind of stop being the guy that holds the other one back and everyone just wouldn't be like you know what guys go let's let's resolve this exactly how you guys want to and see what happens there because neither one of them would actually fight the other one let them fight see how it goes because neither neither one of them will hit the other one.

Speaker 11 Jeremy was so excited about today and with two words in seven minutes you have crushed him, Billy.

Speaker 2 Not me. Nothing can crush me.

Speaker 16 He was so annoying. I walk into the makeup room this morning and he's like, this was the best night of my whole year.
And I was like,

Speaker 16 you were fist bumping a buzzer beater like a month ago.

Speaker 16 Don't act like this is the only heat game that's made you happy.

Speaker 2 I was fist pumping my own interview.

Speaker 6 He said this is okay.

Speaker 4 This is better than my wedding day, he said. Yeah, we all believe that, Jeremy.

Speaker 2 I told my wife that last night.

Speaker 12 Honey, are you watching this? Isn't this better than our anniversary? No, look, I don't know if the word fight came out of anyone's mouth. You guys are making a leap here, right?

Speaker 12 When he says, you better not have anything to say to me, it's not, or I'll punch him in the face. It's, or I'll say things that have been behind the scenes that no one has revealed that I will reveal.

Speaker 12 And I think both parties kind of feel like, hey, you know, I could have made this a lot worse if I talked about the way you guys did this or the way you did that. But I'm trying to take the high road.

Speaker 12 They're both trying to do that.

Speaker 4 And, you know, it is what it is no one's trying to take the high road yes they are no they're not get out of here dude if the low they're not taking the low road is what i'm telling you they're not taking the low road but like when the heat puts out a tweet of andrew wiggins saying hi to all of his teammates and then puts something along the lines in the caption of great to see a former player go and make up with his coach and teammates like come on you're not trying to take the high road well they definitely didn't i mean look that that intro video was half-baked.

Speaker 11 It wasn't, it didn't have like the play-by-play, it didn't have the celebration, oh, Miami Heat win the Eastern Conference Championship.

Speaker 11 Didn't have any, it didn't have quotes from Jimmy Butler showing his

Speaker 11 party and everything else.

Speaker 6 I wonder why the quotes weren't there. They also because they were all lies?

Speaker 11 They also don't normally do that. Jeremy, please.
They also don't normally do that in the intros because they want it to build up a little bit, right? And they do that as the after the first break.

Speaker 11 You're coming to the bottom.

Speaker 16 And also because no one's there.

Speaker 11 Because no one's there.

Speaker 6 That's another reason. That building was packed.

Speaker 12 Now, 40% of them were Warriors fans. There were a lot of Steph Curry jerseys Can we talk about that?

Speaker 12 Look, we thought the Warriors fans are going to be like, yeah, Jimmy Butler's going to...

Speaker 6 It was, no, they're like, Jimmy who?

Speaker 12 No, Steph Curry.

Speaker 11 90% of the Steph Curry fans didn't speak English. This man is an international megastar.
Jimmy Butler's just another teammate to them.

Speaker 12 It's still the Beatles. Dan, I get it.
They're like the seventh seed or the whatever they are in the West. They're still the Beatles.

Speaker 12 People still show up and they show up early to watch that guy warm up.

Speaker 6 But I mean, come on.

Speaker 8 Like, if I told you in some incarnation of the future, there's going to be a bunch of human beings who are unbelievably athletic, but one is an actual wizard, floats around the court and does something that no one's ever been able to do.

Speaker 8 Like, you're everyone who comes internationally to watch Steph Curry, just because you watch the games every night and know that you're no longer amazed by something amazing doesn't mean that you're watching something.

Speaker 8 It's not in sports, it might as well be God coming to life and appearing before you because it's unlike anything you've ever seen before, and you can't imagine anything better than that either at that size.

Speaker 12 I'm not desensitized by his magic, but I am

Speaker 12 surprised that a team that has fallen from grace, you know, relative to where they once were, still attracts the traveling caravan of people from across the globe to just glimpse him. Dan, I would.

Speaker 3 They don't even have to.

Speaker 12 He doesn't even have to play.

Speaker 12 There was so much media at the game that PR had to seat us like. in the stands.

Speaker 12 That's how many people were there. And as I'm sitting there, Dan, as I'm sitting there, I'm hearing people, they know he's not playing when he came to sit on the hey there.

Speaker 12 It is where look over there look over over to the left and like they were losing their mind at just glimpsing him sit down.

Speaker 8 I didn't recognize that nationality.

Speaker 6 Well, other side of the world

Speaker 6 global

Speaker 6 international. It could be from anywhere.

Speaker 8 Do we have the oddball clip here of and I just learned before the show that I mean

Speaker 8 the Sun Sentinel reporter did not know that this was you.

Speaker 6 I just want to be clear. of it.

Speaker 6 Is it Iguoru? Is it? Go ahead and play the clip.

Speaker 12 You make show?

Speaker 11 I do. I make a show, yes.

Speaker 6 What's name?

Speaker 1 What's name, show?

Speaker 6 Oddball.

Speaker 11 Odd. Like strange, weird.
Odd. Like

Speaker 6 ball. Oddball.
Ball. Oddball.

Speaker 11 Ball is life.

Speaker 12 Art is life.

Speaker 12 Life is art.

Speaker 11 I do a show with somebody called Amin Elhassen.

Speaker 6 Amin Elhassen.

Speaker 12 Amin is your very very good name.

Speaker 6 Amin.

Speaker 12 It means trust. Tirust.
Amin Tirust. Oh, okay.
Tirust, yes.

Speaker 4 And Amin we trust.

Speaker 12 Yes, okay. Yes, very good, very good.

Speaker 6 Hello.

Speaker 6 Hello.

Speaker 12 He's magical. Tell about Steph Curry being magical.
Akbar is magical. Was that Borat? No, that's Akbar d'Amystique.

Speaker 11 Just to be clear, I know he's got some French accessories.

Speaker 6 I don't believe he's. Not French.
I don't believe he's. He's not French.

Speaker 11 I asked him a million times. He's not French.

Speaker 12 Remember that we had some guys from Congo

Speaker 12 approach him and Jonathan Caminga's cousin. Jonathan Kaminga's cousin came up and tried to say.

Speaker 8 Jeremy, what happened to your friend? What happened to your friend from the Sun Sentinel?

Speaker 2 Well, it seems like he wrote an article about, according to Amin, a very real artist that was out there trying to get a Jimmy Butler statue created.

Speaker 2 And if that artist wasn't real, then it might have been a bit mean-spirited to

Speaker 2 go unrecognized and fool a journalist.

Speaker 11 Well, since the mean wasn't there, I'll explain what happened.

Speaker 11 You know, Akbar and I were sitting there trying to get fans' votes on which Jimmy Butler statue pose

Speaker 11 we should pick, right? Because I told everybody, hey, things are going to ease off

Speaker 11 between the heat and Jimmy Butler, and they're going to put a statue up there. And so what were the options? Again, they were, Jimmy Butler was tired.

Speaker 12 Yeah, so first of all, Akbar worked tirelessly on this. Nobody, we should take a second to thank him for all of his work that he did pro bono, by the way.

Speaker 12 He doesn't, until the statue actually gets made, he doesn't get he made all that money from the Sharon Stone statue.

Speaker 6 Yes, exactly. Thank you, Akbar.
Thank you, Akbar.

Speaker 6 Thank you, Akbar.

Speaker 12 So, so Mr. Domestique came up with five different options.

Speaker 16 Monsieur.

Speaker 12 No, he's not French.

Speaker 11 Oh, my bad. Let's be clear.
Jess, I just said that. Thanks.

Speaker 6 It's okay.

Speaker 4 He's from Kazakhstan.

Speaker 6 No, he's not. It's confusing.

Speaker 12 Wow, you guys are so jingoistic and nationalist. Where are you from, boy? Where do you come from? What country? Is that Dan? That's what all of you sound like.
Demanding to know his national origin.

Speaker 12 Do you want to see his papers, too? How about that? Let's, hey, Akbar, show us your papers, your passport. We want to see, hey,

Speaker 12 what's your visa say, boy? Huh?

Speaker 6 You want to go awesome to hear? Classic Dan. That would be a good idea.

Speaker 16 I mean, it seems like maybe the guy that interviewed Akbar should have asked these questions to confirm he was a real person.

Speaker 16 That's usually what editors do when you do an interview with a random person on the street. And now I'm kind of like,

Speaker 16 I feel bad for this guy. He got fooled at the same time.
Someone probably should have caught it. Someone should have Googled, is Akbar Domestique a real person?

Speaker 6 Well, I'll tell you what, before they publish the story.

Speaker 12 Google Jimmy Butler's statue. Let me know what the number one

Speaker 6 result is. It's Akbar Domestic.
Akbar Domestic.

Speaker 6 Number one on Google, baby.

Speaker 16 Okay. It's really hard to do this whole bit now because like

Speaker 16 half of us are you're right. I'm sorry.
I'm confused.

Speaker 8 like when we started the show as like oddball monday want to talk about this thing that happened but now we're like this thing never actually happened because this was a real thing and actually did somebody get fooled or not get folded i'm lost in the i'm lost in space right now well this is what happens with oddball and when you start a show with no audio like this is part of what it is that happens when you're trying to communicate with people and just like the miami heat did last night oddball oddball is odd And if you want to explain to the audience what it is that you guys were doing yesterday and what you did to a journalist with a clip that would show us what happened to that journalist, journalist, that would probably be the correct way to do this.

Speaker 12 But they're odd. Well, I would say, first of all, watch oddball to get the full segment.

Speaker 6 Number two. Not now, though.
Not now. Not later.
It's not out yet. I know.

Speaker 8 But our audience would like to understand what happened here.

Speaker 6 What happened?

Speaker 8 Some of it's confusing.

Speaker 12 It's not confusing.

Speaker 6 No, I'll explain it.

Speaker 8 Trust me when I tell you.

Speaker 6 Trust me when I tell you. Let me tell you.

Speaker 6 Trust me when I tell you. I'll meet him.
Explain it. It's confusing.

Speaker 12 I can explain it or not, right? Like, explain real quick. We wanted to get a Jimmy Butler statue commissioned.
We had the artist out there. His name is Akbar Domestique.
He sat out there with Izzy.

Speaker 12 Izzy was soliciting people to come give us their opinion, which one was the best of the designs. One of the people who came up to us unsolicited was a reporter.
We did not know from which outlet.

Speaker 12 He said, I'm a reporter. I identified himself as media, so Akbar granted an interview.
He never does this, by the way.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so it was a real artist then.

Speaker 12 Akbar Domestique, yeah.

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 8 Jessica thinks it's a bit.

Speaker 16 Thank you for explaining it. It's not a a bit.

Speaker 3 There you go.

Speaker 4 I don't understand if this, like, why did this reporter not see a camera crew around you guys? Not only microphones on you.

Speaker 3 Not only did he see a camera crew around you.

Speaker 11 I had a microphone in the reporter's face. It was reporter inception.
And he still didn't know what was going on. And so, yeah, next thing you know, there's a story in the Sun Sentinel.

Speaker 16 But it's a real story.

Speaker 6 It's a real story.

Speaker 6 So then we're fine, right?

Speaker 2 The journalist did his job.

Speaker 8 But this is the problem with the real story.

Speaker 4 Like, Jeremy's friend is the journalist who who wrote this who did a great job apparently writing about this real artist is this a real journalist or it's a real journalist and it might be fake news but it's a real journalist is it do they put out like a retraction or like a comment on this like hey we were duped well why would it why would they have to do that apparently akbar domestique is a real person there it is right i mean there's the the lead is does jimmy butler deserve a statue outside the kasaya center most heat fans would likely say no considering why the star's five and a half year Miami tenure ended.

Speaker 12 But Akbar Domestique, an artist from Khartoum Sudan, oh, so that's where he's from, says yes, and he set up a tent outside the arena before Butler's return to Miami with the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday to advocate for the cause.

Speaker 12 Quote, Jimmy Butler, great Miami Heat player. He wins very much.
He great things for the organization.

Speaker 11 You didn't have to do it in his voice. Well, I didn't.

Speaker 12 I just read

Speaker 12 in my book.

Speaker 6 By the way, great reporting.

Speaker 11 Now we know where he's from. See, we should give this reporter.

Speaker 6 Not great patience, maybe? Not great reporting.

Speaker 6 Not great reporting overall. Got off the bottom of something.

Speaker 8 Well, I'm glad that Jessica is protecting journalism here. I genuinely am.

Speaker 16 I'm not. Honestly, I'm not.
I'm just, I think people listening probably are just so confused right now. Yeah, this is incredibly confusing.

Speaker 3 Because I'm confused. Is it confusing?

Speaker 12 How about this? Let's do Q ⁇ A. We'll answer.
We're the oddball representatives here. We'll answer any questions.

Speaker 12 We're opening up the press conference. Cues? Any cues?

Speaker 7 Yeah. How did the guy not know that there was a guy with a fake mustache and a beret in front of the stadium?

Speaker 12 Well, the beret is a sartorial decision.

Speaker 12 I think a lot of people around the world will look at that and say, that's a snazzy hat.

Speaker 12 Particularly the color scheme. Red for Miami Heat Red.
Yes, brilliant.

Speaker 6 And the scarf too.

Speaker 12 The scarf is matching.

Speaker 12 Little hints of black there as well, but mostly red as well. So heat colors.

Speaker 13 How about the fake mustache?

Speaker 12 Well, the mustache is a little gaudy, but you know, some people like to put in a little bit more product, a little bit more extra. I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 There are people every day that I see with fake eyelashes. So, what's wrong with a little bit of an extra?

Speaker 6 You have a fake mustache.

Speaker 7 There's more hair to the mustache than there is the eyebrow. Plus, I saw a little bit of the glue, I think, on the backside.

Speaker 12 Shout out to my guy from White Lotus. Women have full frontal nudes all the time, and nobody cares.
But when a guy does it, all of a sudden there's all sorts of questions.

Speaker 16 You saw he walked that back, right? He's like, I shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 6 That's my bad. I'm sure Akbar will walk it back one day, too.

Speaker 12 Any other questions? Questions?

Speaker 7 So, the journalist. I'm forgetting his name, by the way.

Speaker 6 Respect to him. Jeremy.

Speaker 8 What's his name? It's still confusing.

Speaker 6 The journalist's name? Barry.

Speaker 12 Was it Barry? I don't know. It wasn't Barry.

Speaker 8 Jeremy, your friend's name is what?

Speaker 6 His name is Adam. Adam, okay.
Adam, okay.

Speaker 3 So Adam got very close to Akbar.

Speaker 12 Yes, he was close. Did he not look at his lookbook right now?

Speaker 12 Yeah, showed the lookbook. That's close to me and Dan right now.

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Speaker 15 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 6 Amino Hassan.

Speaker 17 Stugats. Amino Hassan.

Speaker 14 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 2 I have a question. Amin, are you embarrassed that no one recognized you, considering that just looks like you, but has sunglasses and a beret?

Speaker 4 Was Amin there?

Speaker 12 I was in the vicinity.

Speaker 6 I mean, what are you

Speaker 8 going to do this show, Dan? No, but that's Billy right there. That's what a wild Billy Wednesday is.
You were trying.

Speaker 6 Yeah, what do you mean?

Speaker 8 What do I mean?

Speaker 6 I was trying to get to the bottom of this. We're pretending this artist really did not believe.
Billy, thank you. That is what we're doing and not talking about Jessie Butler and not showing up.

Speaker 7 Jessica. For that game.

Speaker 6 Billy, thank you.

Speaker 8 Jessica, that was Billy simply doing the show for just you there. He wasn't doing it for anyone else there.

Speaker 16 No, he's doing this for the millions of people sitting at home right now that are like, what the hell are they talking about?

Speaker 8 So check out Oddball.

Speaker 8 Check out Oddball. It's a bit of a mystery, and that's the reason that you should listen to it.

Speaker 8 I'm guessing, though, that many people would like to hear your serious basketball analysis on a dumb night that did not live up to anything, but allowed us to do the thing that we love to do more than anything in sports, which is just gossip about whether people like each other or not.

Speaker 6 Didn't live up to anything.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 how much do they dislike each other? And how much disrespect was there?

Speaker 6 And what's wrong with that?

Speaker 11 I mean, what do we do? What do we watch all day on TV? It's just that drama. And I think after five and a half years of them being together,

Speaker 11 to go from even the fake platitudes and the fake niceness and just, hey, that's my teammates, those are my boys, to just absolute nothing, like the idea, that has to be a falling off, like one of the worst you've ever seen in the NBA.

Speaker 11 Like, I even, like, Kobe Shaq wasn't even, I mean, I know it was bad, but, you know, people figured, hey, they'll get over it.

Speaker 11 This one, it just feels like this is just the end of any relationship he could possibly have. And he says he didn't want to burn any bridges with the organization.

Speaker 11 It seems like he has.

Speaker 12 I think, so we keep bringing up Kobe Shaq. I know we have to consider the source, but according to Shaq,

Speaker 12 it was all marketing. Like, Shaq, like, took something that was real and inflated it.
for the sake of theatrics.

Speaker 12 Shaq is a master of this, of going in there and like taking something and making it way larger than it really is just out of sheer entertainment of himself.

Speaker 8 Man, I think that's some revisionist history from a guy

Speaker 8 who's in the tank for Shaq.

Speaker 6 Like Shaq was on

Speaker 6 the big fella.

Speaker 12 I don't remember beating a drum at Shaq's games like, hey, Diesel.

Speaker 8 But Shaq was on a stage in a New York nightclub singing, hey, Kobe, tell me how my ass tastes.

Speaker 15 It was funny.

Speaker 6 No, I mean, come on.

Speaker 4 By the way, comparing this to Kobe versus Shaq is the most insane thing that's happened this entire segment.

Speaker 13 You're welcome.

Speaker 11 I mean, it is, it is the relationship like the ended. It's not like it's dissimilar, but I think the best part about this to me was all the pettiness from the Heat.
It was

Speaker 11 not just not talking to him. I think Alec Burks might get in trouble, by the way, because he actually did go.

Speaker 2 The only guys who Jimmy spoke to last night were Kevin Love, Terry Rozier, and Alec Burks. If that doesn't show you

Speaker 2 everything about Jimmy, I don't know what does.

Speaker 12 Shout out to Kay Love. Kay Love said he posted the clip before the game.

Speaker 2 I don't got a problem with these guys. My beef's not with them.
Never will be. But I'm not going to go acknowledge them.
I'm not going to look in their direction. I'm not going to speak with them.

Speaker 6 It was, I could not believe the former team.

Speaker 12 Can I ask you, did you see Bam and Tyler going like, Jimmy, Jimmy Wade? Who's the one that left? I'm just saying. You're saying like, oh, he didn't say what's up.

Speaker 12 It's like when people say, you didn't call me. MFR, you didn't call me either.

Speaker 6 What are we doing?

Speaker 12 Oh, like, it's only on me to call you. I got to be the one to pick up the phone.
But if you don't pick up the phone, I never give you any problem.

Speaker 6 But he did call people, call Kevin Love and Terry Rozier.

Speaker 11 But the relationship didn't end when he left.

Speaker 6 The relationship was over while they were here.

Speaker 11 So they don't, I mean, they're not happy with Jimmy as well.

Speaker 12 I'm just saying, I don't know if, look, if they had done the, look, I've seen it before.

Speaker 12 It's happened to me where I went and reached my hand out to shake hands with someone that I'd had a strained relationship with, and they looked at my hand and walked away, and I just stood there with my hand out, and I looked at everybody around like, see, I tried.

Speaker 12 I reached out. They didn't do anything.
That's not what happened.

Speaker 12 No, you're right look i'm not saying jimmy's an angel i'm just saying let's oh poor bam that he didn't even say hello to look at him neither did he neither did he yeah one guy showed up for the game and the other didn't it also feels like if this score was opposite jimmy would have been center court

Speaker 6 exactly right he would have been the worst bad give him a hug

Speaker 12 pat him on the ass i'm gonna tell you right now i don't think so I don't think so.

Speaker 2 You think he would have said all the glowing things he said after the game if

Speaker 2 he would have won? he had to get his butt kicked by the team to be able to go say anything nice.

Speaker 2 Look, man, there are some guys when the lights are on on national TV that show up for big games and other guys don't.

Speaker 2 And Jimmy's just not one of those guys, he just doesn't show up when the lights are on.

Speaker 11 This is fake, right? This is acting.

Speaker 3 He's wearing glasses.

Speaker 11 You need a mustache?

Speaker 12 We get Akbar in here. Should we get Akbar?

Speaker 6 Is this where we're at? Can we call her

Speaker 6 Akbar?

Speaker 4 Like, we're celebrating getting to 10 games under 500.

Speaker 3 Like, this is where we're at, gloating.

Speaker 6 I'm ashamed.

Speaker 3 I'm ashamed of my family.

Speaker 6 It's a fun night.

Speaker 6 You know what I'll say?

Speaker 2 I will say, and this is me, this will be the most embarrassing thing that I say. I was so proud watching Heat fans last night know to boo every time Jimmy touched the ball.

Speaker 2 Because before the game, I was talking to other people in the media and saying, like, the most passionate of fan bases would know, right? Oh, this is, it's cheers and boos during the intro.

Speaker 2 And then every time that guy touches the ball, you boo him. That's what happens, right? And I honestly did not expect it.
I didn't expect it from the crowd. And then it happened.

Speaker 2 There was a guy heckling him, and he got a five-second violation. You couldn't have drawn that night up better.

Speaker 3 Jessica, you speak.

Speaker 2 You speak for the worst of people like me.

Speaker 8 You speak for all of us, Jessica.

Speaker 6 I can't speak.

Speaker 3 It's embarrassing.

Speaker 6 I know it's embarrassing. I don't care.

Speaker 8 Well, that's okay, and I understand that you don't care.

Speaker 8 But I legitimately left yesterday's show thinking to myself and not knowing the answer because the heat were coming off of a 10-game losing streak.

Speaker 8 I wanted to ask you guys, like, which which is harder to do in that league, winning 10 straight or losing 10 straight?

Speaker 12 I guess losing 10 straight ain't that hard.

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, Cleveland's won 10 straight three times, like 10 straight losses for the heat.

Speaker 8 It's confusing to me where we've lived for 15 years that makes everyone crazy around here and makes Jessica put her head in her hands when Jeremy does what Heat fans.

Speaker 2 It was just fun watching Jimmy stand in the corner during a regular season game and it not affecting the heat in a negative way.

Speaker 8 Okay, and so Heat homer Jeremy Jeremy has this to say about Miami fans. It was great for them to be knowledgeable enough to know to boo Jimmy every time he touched the ball.

Speaker 8 And then there's Steve Kerr saying this of Miami fans.

Speaker 6 I didn't know what was going on pregame because there was a video with no sound. So

Speaker 17 I was wondering what was happening.

Speaker 17 You know, Miami is

Speaker 17 a great place to live. And so people

Speaker 17 don't ever seem too,

Speaker 17 you know, too amped up around here. They're living a good life.
So so it really wasn't that

Speaker 17 rabbit of an environment it was uh typical miami

Speaker 7 so i mean hold on hold on i mean respectfully respectfully to steve kerr he does a great job he has no idea what he's talking about

Speaker 7 nobody in miami's amped up brother have you been to like i ought to during traffic during prime time five o'clock rush hour please

Speaker 11 that that was the strangest part of the whole night because uh as the beginning of this show had no sound as soon as you're supposed to hit the music, they played this one part, and it was like, I think it's this part of Eminem, right?

Speaker 11 Where he's just like, it's a return of, just kidding. And I was like, wait, wait a second, that seems like a shot at Jimmy Butler.
But it was like the Vice Jersey thing, right?

Speaker 11 So that was the beginning of that one. And then the music just didn't play.
The video was playing, but no music.

Speaker 12 There was a popping sound that happened. And I thought, oh, they got fireworks, but then there was no firework.
And then the intro video plays exactly like how we started the show today.

Speaker 12 I would say that we were doing meta stuff. And I'm not blaming the video department.
I'm saying the video department was Johnny Allen's. It was a tribute.

Speaker 12 Because because they played the intro video to complete silence and it took like a strong five or six seconds before like the game ops people were like start a chant or something

Speaker 12 let's go heat and then that like it died it couldn't i was like wow they can carry this throughout the entire video that'll be an insane environment tnt will love it and then like three three goals is that let's go heat let's go heat it was a feeling of oh jimmy butler's gone and everything goes to shit the energy was so weird to start yesterday's game because you had like the mixed cheers and boos, right, during the intro video.

Speaker 2 Then you have the Heats intro video where the sound goes out and the speakers go out.

Speaker 2 Then a minute into the game, Draymond Green is hurt and laying on the ground and you're wondering what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 Then not two minutes later, Jimmy Butler himself has a five-second violation where there's a fan behind him yelling, you're a bum. Then the

Speaker 2 yeah, Andrew Wiggins immediately gets an eight-second violation after that. Then there's a back court violation.
Then there's back-to-back 24-second violations by the Warriors.

Speaker 2 It was like, and that was all in the first eight minutes of the game. It was one of the strangest starts to a basketball game, including Jimmy Butler having two points.

Speaker 12 I'd like to explain for one second. Everyone was like, it was mixed cheers and booze.
At first, I was like, wow, so there are a lot of Heat fans that are still happy about Jimmy.

Speaker 12 Then I realized, oh, no.

Speaker 12 That's just the Warriors fans because 40% of the building had Steph Curry jerseys on. That's the thing that I think people are missing.
You guys are thinking the Miami crowd crowd was split.

Speaker 12 No, they weren't. It was just a bunch of Warriors.

Speaker 8 I'm surprised that you're surprised by this. So last night, yeah, the Golden State starters, did they have 10 points by the half? The five of them? The starters?

Speaker 6 It was insane.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 their starting lineup got dominated, and Jimmy was basically taken out of the game from the jump. Like, Bam at a bio shut him down last night.

Speaker 12 He just did. I would say that Jimmy did.
Like, I've seen people who are trying to force the issue. I've got to prove a point tonight.

Speaker 14 He did the opposite. Yeah, he didn't show up.

Speaker 12 He seemed very passionate.

Speaker 6 Okay, he didn't show up.

Speaker 8 Very passionate. Okay, but can we just examine? Look, I don't want to talk about this anymore than Jessica does anymore.

Speaker 6 Well, hold on, but no, Tama. Let me stop you there.

Speaker 12 You and Jessica, I'm sorry. What the hell did you guys think today's show was about to be about?

Speaker 6 Golf? Thank you. That is what a lot of people are thinking about.

Speaker 16 You're not here every week. This is what every show has been about for years.

Speaker 6 This is literally the last day that we can do.

Speaker 8 It's literally the last day.

Speaker 6 And it won't be. And it won't be.
No, it will be. It will be.
This is it. it.

Speaker 2 They're not going to face each other in the finals.

Speaker 16 I don't want to talk about this. It's the funniest thing that has ever been uttered on the show.

Speaker 4 Yesterday, also, by the way, we were talking about should the Heat be tanking for the lottery.

Speaker 6 They should.

Speaker 4 So now the question is, you had your NBA final

Speaker 4 today.

Speaker 16 Making sure he's not tanking. Maybe he tanked the game.

Speaker 6 Meta. You know what?

Speaker 4 Maybe that is what happened is Jimmy didn't want them to get a higher pick. But we were talking about yesterday, should the Heat tank for the lottery?

Speaker 4 So now that the Heat won their championship last night, the Jimmy Butler revenge game, are we now back to tanking with this Heat team?

Speaker 12 Saggin for a flag in this.

Speaker 11 I mean, I don't know if it's a serious conversation, but look at the standings. There's just no chance.

Speaker 3 Cooper for Cooper?

Speaker 11 They're stuck in this play in purgatory.

Speaker 11 I don't even think they can move into seven and eight. They're just in that 9-10 land right now.

Speaker 12 Bailing for Bailey?

Speaker 16 You know what? I'll let you guys have today if you can promise me you will not say the name. This is for Jeremy and Dan.
You will not say the name Jimmy Butler for the rest of the NBA season.

Speaker 8 Can you do do that, Dan? I got to figure out what I got to trade Jessica for that.

Speaker 6 Oh, that's like a boy. Look at it.
There's going to be a lot of people.

Speaker 8 It's going to be a negotiation. I'm not going to just.

Speaker 6 Just to say a week.

Speaker 4 Just say a week. A week is going to be hard enough.

Speaker 6 A week.

Speaker 16 You're a bad negotiator.

Speaker 8 I will figure out what it is.

Speaker 8 Let me think about it. I want it to be a thread throughout the show, and at the end, we will make a bet on whatever it is that is.

Speaker 3 So that don't let me forget.

Speaker 8 I want to have stakes on this because I also want stakes on yesterday's bet where there was an oral commitment there. Billy said for a raise, he'd have another kid.
So we've got a deal.

Speaker 8 Get on that. Get on that.

Speaker 6 He might have last night.

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 6 Oral commitment. Be respectful.
Oral commitment.

Speaker 6 I'm sorry. What?

Speaker 16 You can't have a kid that way.

Speaker 12 Be respectful.

Speaker 8 You and me have made a deal. Everyone heard it.

Speaker 4 Well, if I have a child.

Speaker 12 Well, have confidence.

Speaker 8 If you have a child, you can have a raise. We made a deal.

Speaker 8 I want there to be a huge...

Speaker 4 I don't think that this is binding in any sense of the word.

Speaker 6 The words words being spoken right now are an oral commitment. Any contract is binding.
Oral commitments are not, they're oral commitments. You're backing down.

Speaker 4 No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 7 He's scared, Dan, is what it is. You put the money up and he's like, no, I don't want to do it anymore.

Speaker 6 So how much money are we talking?

Speaker 6 It's a good question.

Speaker 3 It's a depreciate, Billy.

Speaker 8 It's a good question.

Speaker 6 Well, I just had a kid, so me and you could talk after, right? Oral.

Speaker 16 And what if you have a fake baby?

Speaker 6 No, fabulous. Oh, fake baby.
But you get the million dollars. Adoption.

Speaker 16 Like, let's work this thing out.

Speaker 8 Let's figure out what the consequences are.

Speaker 6 It's going to have to be cash, right?

Speaker 2 Obviously.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Because I'm going to be willing to make the bet of no the it's just the name Jimmy Butler, correct? Just the name.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I already lost.

Speaker 6 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not lost. That's why I said

Speaker 6 that.

Speaker 16 You just can't talk about him.

Speaker 6 Problem is.

Speaker 16 You can't say his name, but you also can't say.

Speaker 4 Ooh, I have an idea for this bet, and I'm just if we're figuring out bets. If

Speaker 4 Dan wins, you have to wear a costume of some sort. If Jess wins, Dan can't wear a costume for a year oh that would kill him that would kill him

Speaker 8 you know what's frustrating about this I was undefeated last year

Speaker 8 undefeated it's the reason I don't didn't wear a costume all year I was undefeated at the grid of death I went every single week and was and never lost again

Speaker 6 she hated it

Speaker 11 how about if he loses he shaves the beard oh oh

Speaker 6 and if she loses just has to grow a beard oh I've got a mustache not a bad trade because I can't grow a beard so you could wear a meme ridiculous beard.

Speaker 6 Akbar.

Speaker 6 Apparently, that was not a meme.

Speaker 16 So now we're back to square one.

Speaker 6 That's a beard as mine.

Speaker 12 What are you talking about?

Speaker 6 Akbar.

Speaker 8 Well, the way the show should have started, I saw in preview the clip of Jeremy's friend being fooled by Akbar.

Speaker 8 And I just am curious where we are with journalism because Jessica asked, where are the editors here?

Speaker 8 And the answer to your question, Jessica, is WPLG in Miami closes down with ABC after 80 years and has to go totally local is there are no editors anymore. We can't pay anybody anymore.

Speaker 8 So Greg Cody has to write his own headlines on his own stories because the editors are being all chewed up and bad things are getting into newspapers.

Speaker 11 And hey, I thought Akbar was quoted warmly and accurately.

Speaker 4 Well, also, like that story, so ABC is still going to exist, but WSVN now is going to have Fox and ABC on their like second channel.

Speaker 4 And then WPLG announced that they are focusing on journalism and they're reinvesting all of the money that they were going to be asking for to get the ABC license into local journalism.

Speaker 4 And they're going to do more local journalistic shows and they're going to have longer news days in the morning.

Speaker 4 And they're going to have different programming that's specific for local because they thought that ABC was asking for too much, I believe, if they hold on there.

Speaker 11 Are you PR for WPLG?

Speaker 6 No, I'm just already got it right.

Speaker 6 I read a shot. Heaven forbid, I read a story before we talked about it.

Speaker 6 Journalism, yeah.

Speaker 4 The guy that runs the network doubled down on his commitment to local journalism and covering local stories. So it's not a situation where the network is folding.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 7 Billy, let's bring back Sportsbang. Sell it to them.
Local journalists, Billy Gil, Tony Gladiator, all of a sudden take on sports.

Speaker 4 Wait, who is that second person that's doing this?

Speaker 6 Me and you. All of a sudden.
Me and you. All of a sudden.
Take on sports. Pass.

Speaker 12 I love that idea. It's like they've been covering politics and like Wall Street.
And all of a sudden, we're going to take on sports. Yeah.

Speaker 11 With Sportsbang.

Speaker 3 We both wear like suits. We'll beat Jim Berry.

Speaker 4 Jim Berry keeps jumping back and forth between sports and news.

Speaker 6 You can be the third guy.

Speaker 4 Ooh, I like that.

Speaker 7 Me, you, and JB.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 8 Roy must be wounded in the history of WPLG. That's 79 years.

Speaker 11 White Lauderdale. I mean,

Speaker 6 Bishop.

Speaker 8 That's what, I mean, they taught me about news.

Speaker 8 Like, that was television news when we were growing up. And then ABC comes in and says, no, it's going to be network.

Speaker 8 And yes, they're trying at Channel 10 to do something that is a special thing where they take care of local news. But to answer Jessica's question, there are no editors.
There's not money for editors.

Speaker 8 There are like five newspapers in the country that can afford editors.

Speaker 4 Also mentioned in the announcement, they will still have Wheel of Fortune. So

Speaker 6 don't be worried about that. Jeopardy?

Speaker 3 Good lead-in for us.

Speaker 4 I think Jeopardy 2. Excellent.
And Kelly and Mark, or whatever the Kelly show is called.

Speaker 16 I've never really liked Wheel of Fortune that much.

Speaker 4 Really?

Speaker 16 It's fine. It's just like, I think Jeopardy is so much better.

Speaker 9 I haven't seen any of the Seacrest episodes.

Speaker 16 Yeah, me neither. Not a one.

Speaker 6 I guess that sort of, we agree then. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know, speaking of 10, when's the last time you saw number 10 Jimmy Butler show up for a big game, huh? Oh, boy. Lights are on your shrink.

Speaker 6 He's got his boys in matching joy shirts on.

Speaker 8 He already ended my negotiations.

Speaker 11 Beard's coming off.

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