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Speaker 3 shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow show shadow in it shadow in it I know you guys like to pretend around here that I'm in charge, but a lot of things happen around here that have nothing to do with me ever knowing about it.
Speaker 3 And I saw, as Jonathan Zaslow, Greg Cody's nemesis,
Speaker 3 comes into the studio looking very much like radio,
Speaker 3 I saw that out of the shipping container, the framed Greg Cody Trade Merino column was taken out of the shipping container and placed. Now, this is, you have to understand, this is an heirloom.
Speaker 3 This is a treasure. This should be something that would would be at the center of a church if the church worshipped bad takes.
Speaker 3 And I'd like to know who made the decision to take something that is a family heirloom and remove it from our walls in here and put it outside. Is anyone accountable on this?
Speaker 1 I was surprised to see it, too. So there was some redecorating, and generally, I must say, I'm a fan of what they did, but I also noticed that the Greg Cody column is missing.
Speaker 1 Thankfully, if you're just listening to the Shadow show, you don't have to experience this trauma visually for the moment, but it's coming.
Speaker 1 I know who did it.
Speaker 1 I don't feel comfortable saying because they do a lot of good things around here, and we don't need to shame them. But yes, I know who did it.
Speaker 3 And how does the decision get made on this? Zazzle, how did you feel about that column? And you've made fun of Greg Cody a couple of different times
Speaker 1 to his face. I don't think I've made fun of him about it.
Speaker 1 The column is what it is. Like, there's nothing to make fun of.
Speaker 1 I think it's the greatest column that he's ever written because everybody knows about it. Everybody knows that he tried to trade Mourinho.
Speaker 1 There's no column that stood out more to me as a kid than Greg Cody is saying we should trade Dan Marino.
Speaker 1 So, I mean, I think it's, maybe it took it out of there because everybody knows it by heart at this point. Like, you don't need it up there.
Speaker 1 This is definitely the article being removed from somewhere over the last 24 hours that I'm most concerned about.
Speaker 3 Well, Jeremy, we've got something for you today because I can't believe what I saw last night.
Speaker 1 Why, what happened?
Speaker 3 We'll get to it in a second.
Speaker 3 You at the center of things in a way that's amusing.
Speaker 1 Because I'm a star?
Speaker 3 Because your team stinks.
Speaker 1 You notice things have gone downhill since I'm not there anymore, right? Oh, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 Zaszlo, I thought Zaszlo not there anymore.
Speaker 1 He's a two-time champion, you know. He hasn't done any winning since I left.
Speaker 3 Not there anymore covers a lot of ground because Zazzlo was a pre- and post-game fixture on the Miami Heat. Then he left, and then they stopped.
Speaker 1 That was kicked out. Now it's Solana.
Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1 not going well for solana so far tommy tig's still out there doing it you're the lifer his hair is so dark lifer uh you got kicked out i mean i didn't get kicked out by heat like as far as i know they they love me or they did love me i don't know one or the other i mean they tend to keep the people they love that is true but not lem
Speaker 1 This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stu Gats Podcast
Speaker 3 Since we have Zaslow here as part of getting us ready for how it is we're going to cover the NHL playoffs when the Panthers start kicking ass there.
Speaker 3 What happened, Tony? Why?
Speaker 1
NHL playoffs. We had an incredible game last night at the Kasaya Center.
Another, you know, feather in my cap for the Cade Cunningham bandwagon. It's an incredible night.
Speaker 3 I don't believe that you get feathers in your cap for anything Cade Cunningham does.
Speaker 1 Bandwagon? How's that?
Speaker 3 Can you guys give me the history, please, of feathers in caps and why it is that people get feathers in caps? But last night, the Miami Heat lose for the ninth straight time.
Speaker 3
They are in a particular hellhole that I don't think we've seen around here in 15 years, unless my memory... Well, your history, Zaslow, is good.
Is this the worst Heat team we've seen in 15 years?
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. I know a lot of people want to go back to the 2008 team where they only won like 15 games.
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 Your experience in that season, knowing, or at least believing, there's a light at the end of the tunnel that light being the number one overall pick we have the worst record in the NBA it ended up being the number two overall pick we know how that went Michael Beasley the most wrong I've ever been in my sports life Michael Beasley but this team there's there's no light at the end of the tunnel because they're not even going to miss the playing now they may miss the playoffs but they're still going to be a playing team even if they lose the rest of the games this season and there's no light at the end of the tunnel as far as the lottery goes so I have found this season to be one of the least enjoyable of my lifetime Let's examine for a second around the room most wrong you've been in your sports life.
Speaker 3 I want all of you to examine this for a second and come up with an answer for me as I play the video from last night where Cade Cunningham, who's becoming a star this season because the Pistons do matter, the Pistons are fun and beyond that.
Speaker 3 The way that offense is working in this sport is crazy to me.
Speaker 3 A spur that I've not heard of, perhaps you guys can help me with how to pronounce his name, scored 34 points in less than 20 minutes last night, seven for seven on threes, 13 for 14.
Speaker 3 And even he, after the game, was wandering around the locker room saying, I don't know what bleeping happened out there because he scored so much, so fast.
Speaker 3
And last night, you may not have noticed this, the Pacers scored to win 135, 131, 45 points in the fourth quarter. That used to be the average Miami Heat half.
And is again, I think. I feel like it.
Speaker 3 And is
Speaker 1 the average
Speaker 1 half now?
Speaker 3 It's the average second half now.
Speaker 3 Before we get to the game winner, though, that I want to play, I just want to ask Zaz because I do find this part to be a bit staggering in the last 16 games.
Speaker 3
We talked an awful lot about Jimmy Butler. We argued a lot about Jimmy Butler.
But how many more examples would you like that he didn't have enough help while he was here?
Speaker 3 Because it's been flooring to me to watch Bam and Tyler Hero do this, be this,
Speaker 3 because those are two all-stars that you have, maybe in name only, but they are all-stars. And the way this team is playing is a far sight from you have two all-stars.
Speaker 3 I can't believe how bad they are. And I'm surprised that taking Jimmy Butler away 16 games proves this.
Speaker 1 Well, the part that I have a hard time understanding, not that I disagree with anything you just said, okay? Because this team is rotten, by the way. Like, there is something rotten about this team.
Speaker 1 But Jimmy Butler, it's not like he was playing for them and then they traded him and then everything went downhill. He was suspended.
Speaker 1
They lost him for, he served at least nine game suspension, if I'm remembering correctly. They were not this.
They were a game over 500. They were 500.
They were two over five.
Speaker 1
Like, they weren't this. And they've essentially been playing without Jimmy Butler the entire season.
So there is something rotten surrounding this team right now.
Speaker 1
Because you're right, they're not this bad. Zaz, the other thing is, Tyler and Bam both had a good game last night.
Like, Bam's kind of been like turning a little bit.
Speaker 1
He did nothing in the fourth quarter. Oh, for five, zero points in the fourth quarter.
Agreed, but again, he still had 30, right? So it's like we don't see that from Bam typically.
Speaker 1
We see him with the 16, 11, and 7 game where you're like, ah, he left so much on the table. But last night, again, they just completely collapsed in the fourth quarter.
They don't have a guy.
Speaker 1 Like, we watch the Pistons and Cade Cunningham is able to go out there
Speaker 1
and do what he wants. We used to have a guy.
They don't have a guy anymore who could do that.
Speaker 1 And Tyler Here is just not big enough to do that, especially in the fourth quarter when everything tightens up. But again, the Cade Cunningham shot, you get at the top of the key, he runs over.
Speaker 1 Bam covering him on the inbounds, by the way. He shoves Bam with a with a
Speaker 1
chicken wing, okay? Pushes, I don't know, oh, Haywood Highsmith out of the way, gets the ball, gets to the top of key, gets his shot off. Bank shot.
He didn't call it again, but still.
Speaker 1 He says he whispered it. He says he whispered.
Speaker 1
Hold on a second. I just saw something here.
Can we watch this again, this replay? I see someone in the background here looking dejected.
Speaker 1 Hold on. All right.
Speaker 3 So this is a bank. This is great defense by Bam.
Speaker 1 And there is Jeremy Tashay.
Speaker 1 His shoulders, he looks in. Oh, what's going to happen? Dejected.
Speaker 3 Let's put that picture in picture here and spot shadow Jeremy Tashay so that you can see what is. This is, I'm going to do this for the audio audience, okay?
Speaker 3 So he's got his microphone at the center of his chest, the way Shane Gillis does stand up, okay? He's got the microphone at the center of his chest.
Speaker 1 That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 And then, as soon as the shot goes in, if you're just watching Jeremy, you are seeing the microphone, his only useful tool, other than the ones that are inside him, of course.
Speaker 3 And the microphone just drops with a sudden disgust and it goes to where the hand was when he fist pumped after doing his sideline interview. He is crushed there because that's your best defender.
Speaker 3
He's defending well. It's still crazy, okay? It's still crazy to me that Bam is the one that you send out there at that size and that Cunningham's not getting a good shot.
He's getting a lucky shot.
Speaker 3 He made it, but that is good defense and that's just unfortunate that the Miami Heat lose there.
Speaker 1 Was there any part of you, Jeremy, that almost, because me, if I was in your spot, and especially a younger version of me, you're a little bit younger than me, especially a younger version of me.
Speaker 1 I know people can't tell because we look like we're the same age but you are younger than me uh a younger version of me would have chucked the microphone on the floor
Speaker 1 uh a present day version of me almost did the same thing i couldn't believe you know there was a part of me that didn't want to believe there was a chance the heat could win the game and down the stretch they they start losing in about two minutes it was an unbelievable game the fourth quarter was electric it was such a fun game and i was you know hoping that i could get to be a part of fun energy after a close win like that and, you know, be able to fist pump toward an NBA League pass camera.
Speaker 1 And instead, I had to experience one of the more deflating moments of my work life at the very least, if not professional life. I mean, guys,
Speaker 1 that would
Speaker 1 it would have been to break an eight-game losing streak, the longest of Spo's career. I can imagine whoever I would have been able to talk to after the game would have been a really good interview.
Speaker 1
This is about you. Yeah.
Of course, it was about me.
Speaker 1 That's what I said the other day, too.
Speaker 3 I need to explain to people how rare it is for a body under any circumstances to physically sag that way with overt disappointment. Like, you give me all of the times.
Speaker 3 I've said this before about sports, right?
Speaker 3 Whatever you think is the happiest moment of your life, you weren't jumping up and down when your child was born, the way you were jumping up and down wherever it is you were when your best sports moment ended up happening.
Speaker 1 So much happier in 2006.
Speaker 3 And I'm asking you guys to tell me on what circumstances you would find yourself so visibly dejected.
Speaker 3 That's an argument with your spouse, right?
Speaker 3 Like what, where are the places where you're so physically dejected that you see his shoulders go from where they were at a man's height of about 5'9 or 5'10, whatever it is that he is, to the height of a man who is now 5'6 or David Sampson size because his shoulders sag so much in an arena full of people whose shoulders are sagging that way after several years of feeling like your shoulders are sagging that way.
Speaker 1 Last time my shoulders did what Jeremy's did was when Jacoby George had that personal foul penalty as Miami was driving at Syracuse.
Speaker 1 Oh,
Speaker 1 we were so close, Jacoby. How about the third down where that guy from Georgia Tech, wearing number 49 or whatever, ran for like 27 yards and you were like, no,
Speaker 1
get him. Get him.
Isaiah Horton dropped him a slant. That seven-yard slant.
It was in your hands.
Speaker 3
Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Labatard Show.
Do you know why anyone was putting feathers in their cap?
Speaker 1
So it goes back to military traditions in Europe. Native Americans would do it.
Genghis Khan would do it. You would award feathers for acts of valor.
Like helmet stickers?
Speaker 1
Yeah, just like the stickers. Buckeyes.
Okay.
Speaker 1
For any act of valor? For acts of bravery or, you know, just like, hey, man, good job out there on the battlefield. Kick the ass, dude.
Yeah, here's a feather.
Speaker 3
So just to be clear, I just want to be clear. So someone has done something in war.
They have killed a person, they've come home, and what we do is then pluck a bird and
Speaker 3 hand them a single feather as a noble act.
Speaker 1 Sometimes, but also sometimes it's a lot more gory than that. So if you run into a guy who's got like a bunch of feathers, like, that guy's not trifling with.
Speaker 1 For example, like, that is one of the Native American practices, but there are others.
Speaker 3 You don't want to mess with the guy who has a bunch of feathers in his I've got one from Kater.
Speaker 1 It's a huge feather, by the way.
Speaker 3 I also want to play for the audience the greatest spinning leg kick that I have ever seen in my life. Tony probably knows this.
Speaker 3 I don't know if the rest of you know this, but someone who has perfect form on the spinning leg kick, which is the deadliest of all the kicks.
Speaker 3 There's no more power that can be had from a kick than what we're about to show you. But someone who's got exceptional form on the spinning leg kick is Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1 Do you have to clarify with a kick that it's a leg kick?
Speaker 1 Okay,
Speaker 1 I get it. This is redundant.
Speaker 3 Yeah, it sounds.
Speaker 3 A lot of people say ATM machine, that's redundant. A lot of people say NIT tournament, that's redundant.
Speaker 3 Spinning leg kick might indeed be redundant.
Speaker 1 I know when they specify like spinning back heel kick.
Speaker 3 But Tony, I got this right, right? It's not spinning kick, it's spinning back leg kick.
Speaker 1 Yeah, it depends on where you hit with the
Speaker 1 foot, right?
Speaker 1 Spinning heel kick is what we saw the other day where Bobby King Green got knocked out by Mauricio ruffi which was an incredible like temple hit his heel like it was over um so yeah spinning leg kick but dan joe
Speaker 1 goo
Speaker 3 goo uh my favorite part of this video is how little concern this fighter has for what he's just wrought like he is so
Speaker 1 the splash zone is incredible from this kick look at all the the moisture that flies off of triple h man's face yeah it is exactly triple h coming out the last the last time i saw that much sweat get hit off a body was when Kamaro Usman knocked out Jorge Masvedal.
Speaker 1 We were like, oh, God, that's a lot of water. That guy died, right?
Speaker 3 He did not die, but that is a reasonable assumption for you to make because in the center of the ring, as he gets a foot under the chin that makes him fall to the center of the ring, his sweat goes 10 rows deep into the crowd.
Speaker 3 It goes straight up. It's a punt.
Speaker 3 It is. The sweat travels the way a punted football would travel.
Speaker 1
He lands a kick at the absolute apex of it. And Jeremy, congratulations.
I think that's the shortest rain in picture in picture. I was going to say, he fell even harder than my shoulders did.
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Teammates can't shoot from three. Now they're gonna see a different Jimmy.
Now he's just just playing. Nickel back in the locker room.
And
Speaker 1
they'll play D and shoot threes as they chase the Nets for the sixth seed. These five words in his head.
Scream, are we winning games yet?
Speaker 1 This is the Dan Lebatar show with his two guys.
Speaker 3
I have another video that you guys can put picture in picture. And it's just, and I think all of us will stop on this.
You correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3
All of us will always stop on the video of somebody falling on a treadmill. Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebatar Show.
This is your thing.
Speaker 1
You love this. I love this.
This is your thing so much.
Speaker 3 Yes, anybody falling on a treadmill.
Speaker 1 I pass quite the net when it comes to the comedy.
Speaker 3 I'm not alone. I am not alone in finding funny and always stopping on
Speaker 3 the person at the gym who falls on the treadmill. These are children.
Speaker 1 Why are you doing the gym?
Speaker 1
These are children. No, that's how you know it's real.
Some of them are set up. You know it's real.
Speaker 1 There are rules against this.
Speaker 1 That kid's leg's broken, right? He hit the wall so right there.
Speaker 3 Oh, Mike says you love these. Who doesn't love these?
Speaker 3 This is, this is, you can't, I know we can't get consensus on anything, but you can't tell me that there are people in the world who don't love videos of people falling on treadmills.
Speaker 1 I force myself to not like it, honestly. It's like when, because farts are funny, but if someone goes for a fart-joking movie, you're almost like, I can't laugh at this.
Speaker 1 I can't sign off on this, but you know, it's funny.
Speaker 3 Zads, what do you do about the Miami Heat? I'm not even talking about that.
Speaker 3 I'm not even talking about this year when I suspect that most Heat fans are just like lose the rain, lose all of the remaining games except the one against the Warriors.
Speaker 1 Well, and by the way, speaking of the Warriors, they only have two more games until Golden State comes here.
Speaker 1 If the Heat are on an 11-game losing streak when Jimmy Butler gets back, that is such an embarrassment. I'll tell you,
Speaker 1 that really embarrasses me.
Speaker 1 Winning that game to break an 11-game losing streak? I'd rather losing every game for the rest of the street. I don't want the storyline.
Speaker 1 I'm so embarrassed by it. That's going to be a headline all day long on ESPN television that Jimmy Butler returns to Miami with the heat on an 11-game losing streak.
Speaker 1 Because as we debated last week, you think the heat do a video for him?
Speaker 1
Great question. I think the answer is yes.
And I have also, I thought about this yesterday. Very good coincidence that you brought this up because this was in my head yesterday.
Speaker 1 I think the crowd will cheer him. I agree.
Speaker 1
I think you'll hear some booze. I think enough time has gone by.
I think the crowd will cheer him. And because you know, Mike Biamante is going to do the whole, the big intro,
Speaker 1 which I don't like, by the way, but he's going to do the whole big intro at the start. I think Jimmy's going to get a very can we make a bet here?
Speaker 3 Because
Speaker 1
there's a difference, though. I think we all agree during the starting lineups announcements, he'll get that.
100%. But will he then, in like the first quarter, get
Speaker 1 a video montage? That's the extra story.
Speaker 3 All right, well, you and Mike Ryan are on record, and I've seen this move from Mike Ryan before.
Speaker 3 It's a crafty one, where he puts himself in a position where he gets to win no matter what by trying to be classy about Jimmy Butler and saying, I'm rooting for him in the event that he does win so the pain hurts less.
Speaker 1 I'm not rooting for him. No, I know.
Speaker 3 He says he's rooting for him so that the pain will hurt less if he is hoisting the trophy.
Speaker 3 But when you guys say that you believe this, I haven't talked to anybody at the heat, but I do know how angry Pat Riley is. And I'd be surprised if he puts down that anger in the name of optics.
Speaker 3 I'd be willing to bet the other way that you're not going to get the glory. You might get something, but you're going to get a token something so that it can't be a conversation.
Speaker 3 Oh, the Miami Heat were super small in this instance, but you will not get the biggest grateful thing.
Speaker 1 You think it'll just be a picture of him on the Jumbotron? Thank you, Jimmy, not even a video.
Speaker 1 I don't believe that they're going to get past all their pettiness while possibly in the middle of an 11 game losing streak that they blame him for you're gonna undo everything that is said about your organization though in one season because the culture thing has become a punchline and another thing that they usually say about this organization is that it's first class so we're gonna choose that opportunity to be petty it's just it's over it's done with his his problem was with the front office and ownership and pat riley it wasn't with this community i know people feel a certain way about jimmy and i understand if you're a passionate Heath fan, you don't like the way that went down and you don't like what he did.
Speaker 1
But it's over. It's done with.
You have way more good memories with Jimmy Butler, and you have to give the opportunity to the fans to respond however they may want.
Speaker 1 But you leave it up to the fans and you give them that opportunity. Ignoring it makes us seem like we're so hurt by this.
Speaker 3
I didn't say ignoring it. Yeah, they're not going to ignore it.
I didn't say there would be an ignorance.
Speaker 1 But just like a thank you, like a small thing will make us seem like, oh, wow, they're hurt. But
Speaker 3 you guys say you have more memories, good memories, than bad memories, and that's true, but you also have as the bad memory something unprecedented in the history of the franchise.
Speaker 3 You have a mess unlike any other, and I don't think either. I don't think two things.
Speaker 3 I don't think that the heat will put on some grand display, and I think you guys are giving Miami fans more credit for how it is that they behave when they're angry than I'm willing to give them for when they're angry.
Speaker 1 That's fine. I would give them the opportunity.
Speaker 1 I just, I think you owe it to the fans even more than you owe it to Jimmy to let them have that moment and speak for themselves. I do think they're getting a video.
Speaker 1
I think you're getting the big introduction at the starting lineup. I think you're getting the video and then they move on.
I can only be so mad at Jimmy for making it messy.
Speaker 1 That's what Jimmy does when he wants to get out of town. I can get, I'm mostly disappointed at Pat because I think he backed Jimmy into a corner that made it extra messy.
Speaker 1 But also, you know that, right? Like the common fan might not understand that Jimmy always makes a mess when he leaves and then has a really good start in the next place. So that's a great point.
Speaker 1 There's kind of, I would imagine it's probably 60, 40 cheers for Jimmy, maybe 75, 25.
Speaker 1
60, that's a lot of booze. I'm telling you.
That'll sound more like booze if it's not.
Speaker 1
In talking to fans around the arena, like there was a fan there yesterday wearing a Jimmy Butler Warriors jersey. Oh, and I have a little integrity.
Right. And the people, well, but exactly.
Speaker 1 That was the response from every person I talked to around him in that section.
Speaker 3
You are applying logic to something that's emotional. It's not really how rage works.
Like, that's not...
Speaker 3 You're saying that Jeremy's making a good point by taking into account the history, being reasonable, and if you attack this unemotionally, all of you are right.
Speaker 3 But that's not the nature of fandom, to be unemotional.
Speaker 1 Well, but which was worse? LeBron leaving or Jimmy leaving? LeBron, way worse.
Speaker 1 Well, we gave LeBron a really good, you know,
Speaker 1 welcome when they came back.
Speaker 1 When he was able to come back and he actually played because remember he avoided that situation entirely for his first several opportunities to do so but i i guess i have con uh like some separation from it because that's not true the first time they were able to come and he beat them remember juwan howard smile juwan howard that was was that the very first time okay well i know that he was like a dmp for a lot but okay
Speaker 1 you're right but i i've been separated from the emotion of the miami heat because of the way that the season's gone down but the jimmy thing is totally different than the lebron thing because jimmy's at the end end of his career and he may have one last-which you would believe would make the response to LeBron even worse, and which is why we gave him a nice response.
Speaker 1 Well, I'm just explaining how I feel about it. Not only was I more passionate about the brand itself, but I knew LeBron leaving at that point in his career ripped away several more NBA finals.
Speaker 1
So much more devastating. Yeah.
So much more. Whereas this, this is the guy at the end of his career, and he's a rule of
Speaker 1
state is what it was. Yeah.
And when it ends that way, though, and you're looking at it from the perspective of a fan that
Speaker 1 knows how the league works, knows how basketball works, when you're talking about the common fan that's just like buying tickets to a game and they're saying, oh, Jimmy's coming back into town,
Speaker 1 that sounds interesting.
Speaker 1 No, I'm saying that not everyone works on a sports radio show. Not everyone works for a sports podcast and has the ability to look at it and say, oh man, for the rest of his career, he'll be this.
Speaker 1
They might have just looked at it when LeBron came back into town as, hey, he won two championships. We still have D-Wade and Chris Bosch.
Things are fine. We're going to be competitive.
It's cool.
Speaker 1 Where that same fan might look at it now and go, hey, Jimmy never actually won officially anything here.
Speaker 1 We had those great moments, but the way this gets sabotaged and leads to the longest losing streak of Spo's career, it might leave the common fan a little more bitter than those of us with the perspective to look at the long term of both of their careers.
Speaker 1 The perspective you're giving the common fan while also saying that, oh, Jimmy's coming to town, we should do it again and just kind of hang out and watch him. Like, it feels like they can't
Speaker 1 be the same.
Speaker 1 some people will say oh jimmy's coming back to town he ruined everything let's go and boo him and some people will say oh jimmy's coming back to town that's going to be an event let's go cheer i've never
Speaker 3 understood either the mentality of the heckler or the booer it's not something i'm not i'm not saying that
Speaker 3 um you shouldn't do it or that it's not right to do it you never got up at a game and went boo david no i have not but david sampson used to be a heckler before as a fan, he was an actual heckler.
Speaker 3 I've never understood because it's not just boo, okay? Something, you're you're suggesting that taboo is just to get your frustration out. No, it isn't.
Speaker 3 It's so you can see all around you that people are watching you and your frustration. You're trying to be so loud that you make sure that everyone notices you're disgusted.
Speaker 3 And the reason that I don't agree with you guys on what he's going to get in terms of a return is because you guys aren't paying attention to how many unhappy people there are in Miami who want attention for their unhappiness and the state of the heat right now
Speaker 3 no matter what your logic is the state of the heat right now is it didn't feel like this the five years he was here it didn't feel like this until he did everything he did at the end whether he was right or wrong to do it what you presently have which is a what feels like a hopeless future right now, right?
Speaker 3 Because you're like, how are they going to fix this?
Speaker 1 You could blame it on one of two people and only one one of them is gonna have the opportunity if you give him a video in order to express your frustration with him because it's either him or pat riley and your frustration is just gonna be about the nine-game losing streak boy that's gonna be an ugly scene if they're playing a video and it's just raining down booze i don't see that i i i i don't i don't see it either but man that will be an ugly scene we keep talking about how the heat fans are going to react to it i'm starting to warm up to i'm more interested to see how jimmy handles it even like no matter the reaction like let's say the fans largely applaud is he gonna do like a classy wave to the crowd and and try to share the love and yeah we had well he's always said that about he he says he's connected to the city and the fans he's said that throughout he's a different guy when he's on the court and he knows the cameras are on him and i'm genuinely curious like is he going to be able to separate the reception from the fans from his feelings about the organization.
Speaker 1 Does he take an opportunity to show that he doesn't care? Does he just blankly stare, which I think is probably a likely outcome?
Speaker 1 I'm mostly interested in their playing that video, and then they pan to Pat Riley, and he gets up and goes, boo!
Speaker 1
And he's the only one who's actually in the crowd. There's booze everywhere during it, and they cut to Riley, and he's just got a maniacal smile.
He's just like, that's what I really wanted.
Speaker 1 I knew they'd boo you, so I did the classy thing just to inspire them to boo.
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Speaker 1 Don Lebatard. That was a long story.
Speaker 1
It's the only kind he tells. It's a short one for me.
I tried to speed it up for you guys. You forgot about the League's Cup.
Stugats.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 3 La Carreta is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 97 Marlin celebration because it was Levant.
Speaker 1 Well, when Fidel died the first time. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Speaker 3 I wanted to ask you guys about our tournament and the tournament that begins today with a plethora of action everywhere. What are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 Well, we have our own tournament of fans going against each other for the right to watch the national championship game that I don't want to watch with them.
Speaker 1 Well, okay, so I got questions. How do you decide the fans?
Speaker 1 How does that decide?
Speaker 3 Well, we have an assortment of videos, 30 seconds or less. We have seeded them and we've asked the fans.
Speaker 3 I need to clarify, by the way, I didn't mean to say I don't want to watch the game with a fan from our show.
Speaker 1 Oh, I understood exactly.
Speaker 3
No, Though I don't want to watch the game with a fan from our show. Just to put what I was meaning to say is that I simply don't want to have to watch the national championship game.
I don't
Speaker 3 want to be obligated to do it, and it's been given away as a prize because I'm pretty sure Billy just wants to bother me. It's not watch the game with our show.
Speaker 3 It's just watch the game with me, which is also less fun for the fan than it would be to watch the game. with our entire show.
Speaker 1 Is he coming over your house? Like, what's the deal?
Speaker 1 He or she.
Speaker 3
He or she. I don't know what the rules are to this.
He or she comes on that. No one has informed me.
So far, all the videos we've shown are of men.
Speaker 3 What do we have to update our tournament?
Speaker 3 Because the thing I wanted to say about the tournament that I didn't realize until reading it this morning, the eight one and two seeds, five of the coaches are 65 plus.
Speaker 3
I mean, I just spent time last weekend with Larinaga and Leonard Hamilton on our show where both of them are like, I'm out of here, man. I got to get out of there.
This is crazy.
Speaker 3 What is happening out there? You got Leonard Hamilton's team is boycotting because they want more money.
Speaker 3 Larina, two days after he gets to the final four, eight of his players are like, love you, coach, I'm leaving.
Speaker 3
And so to have five of the coaches who are the top seeds and the favorites to win this tournament be 65 plus. Let's see if we can name them here.
Bruce Pearl, Barnes, Petino,
Speaker 1 Izzo,
Speaker 3 who am I missing? I'm missing somebody.
Speaker 1
I'm going to tell you, Duke and Florida are not 65. All right.
Those are two of the
Speaker 3 Kelvin Sampson is the fifth one. It is a little bit, that's unusual, is it not? I mean,
Speaker 3 Izzo's got to be 70, right? Izzo, how many consecutive tournaments has Izzo made? Like, this is a...
Speaker 3 I mean, thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 But I think it's a quarter century of consecutive tournament appearances.
Speaker 1 70.
Speaker 3 Izzo, not 70. It's not 70 straight.
Speaker 1
You know, he's 70 years old. That would have been wild.
Which games are the fans watching with you? The championship games. The championship games.
Yeah. So you're, and how many of these fans?
Speaker 1 Like, how do they, how many of you? Well, one winner.
Speaker 3 One, one, the fans will vote on whatever is the best video here. Can we play some of these for Zaslow so he can see what it is that we're doing?
Speaker 1 Look at that guy.
Speaker 1
You asked if there are any women in this tournament. Our first matchup we're going to preview here is a one-seed Thomas from Flanagans versus 16 seed Sarah.
Hit it, guys.
Speaker 1 Why do I deserve the crown for this year's March sadness? Well, if I've learned anything watching the show, it's always side with Greg Cody. So I spent a lot of money on Cameo for this endorsement.
Speaker 1 I hope you like it.
Speaker 3 Who needs me?
Speaker 1
It's the manager of the Lobos. Just want to support this guy because he gave me money through Cameo.
And I do want to say, in all seriousness, back in my day, we used to take our alley.
Speaker 1 He's Dan, Stu, and Greg Cody on ESBM Radio.
Speaker 1 Hey, Dan, my name is Sarah. My husband is a super fan, and I am a super fan.
Speaker 1 We share the same friends.
Speaker 1 I think you'll appreciate this.
Speaker 1 This
Speaker 1 was a
Speaker 1 Lebo painting, and I'll prove it.
Speaker 1 Hope to see you soon.
Speaker 3 Oh, that's cheating.
Speaker 1
Lebo painting at her wedding. What? Strong.
Yeah, that's cheating. That's a 16-seed, so that's going up against Flanagan's guy.
We move on now to our 2 versus 15.
Speaker 1
We have Mark's wife, Mark wife's Emmy. Try it again.
Mark's wife's Emmy versus 15 seed Logan from Iowa. Hello.
Speaker 4
No, it's not Pitbull. My name is Mark Alexon and I would like to enter the contest, but it's not about what you can do for me.
It's what I can do for you.
Speaker 4
If selected, I will give Stugats this 1980s starting lineup Mark Gastoneau figure. Also, I'll give the crew this fruitopia.
And most importantly, you guys can have my wife's Emmy
Speaker 4 I didn't win it but you guys can have it I don't think
Speaker 1 what up it's Logan it's your boy
Speaker 1 reasons why you should pick me for this competition I am from Des Moines Iowa so I fulfill Dan's need to constantly throw Des Moines Iowa into a conversation for no reason I am the winner of the inaugural Iowa PFPI I can give you a looks like at any time for example Mike McDaniel looks like Sid from Toy Story.
Speaker 1 Looks like he grew up and got his life together. And I got a song about Smetty ready to go.
Speaker 3 Do you realize that the way that you did the apostrophes, Chris, that fan was allowing me to have his wife Emmy?
Speaker 1 If you're listening to the podcast, you're pretty certain that guy says we can bang his wife.
Speaker 1 You should watch with that guy.
Speaker 1 He'll definitely pull up a chair.
Speaker 3 Let's Let's play some more of these here to update our tournament and see if Chris Cody has any more trouble with apostasy.
Speaker 1 I'm excited about this. And this is our number three seed, Cincinnati Lou versus number 14 seed, Austin.
Speaker 1
He's opening a Miller Light. What a sound.
Everyone can tell by the sound.
Speaker 1 He's
Speaker 1
just chugging a Miller Light. He's got a Lobo Bowl number one shirt.
That's vintage. Is that a pitch clock hat? Pandering.
Speaker 1
Chugging a Miller Light. That's strong.
And now let's see what Austin's. That's all he did?
Speaker 1 That's all he needed, Dan.
Speaker 3 I mean, come on. How is that a three seed?
Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Just caught me sipping on a beverage.
Speaker 3 That's a lot of stuff that guy's got.
Speaker 1 A lot of show swag.
Speaker 1 There's Pride of a Lion.
Speaker 3 I mean, come on.
Speaker 3 Signed copy. It's not as good a bribe.
Speaker 1 Dugatsa's
Speaker 3
as the Gaston Ombabo head. It's not as good a bribe.
Get the idea.
Speaker 1
64 guys. No, no, no.
Numero uno. Graciasmiente.
Give me a shot.
Speaker 3 These are largely video instead of audio, actively alienating our audio audience with our tournament.
Speaker 1
Go ahead and do the last one. Final update here.
We have number four seed David from Toronto, famous show listener versus 13 seed Will.
Speaker 1 All right,
Speaker 1 this is David from Toronto.
Speaker 3 I'm working.
Speaker 1 I want to be watching with you, Dan.
Speaker 1 You're my idol.
Speaker 1 I'm doing, I'm plowing a graveyard.
Speaker 1 And not only that, I don't even have a windshield. It's plastic.
Speaker 1 If I don't deserve this, nobody does.
Speaker 1 Let's see, Austin.
Speaker 1 Dan, one of the very first times I ever listened to your show, you told Ron McGill that you thought penguins were more closely related to fish than to birds, and yet I kept listening.
Speaker 1 So, if I'm chosen by the listeners to watch the NCAA men's national basketball championship game with you and to do an in-studio visit, I will require us to do so in penguin costumes because I know you love that.
Speaker 1
Great stuff, Austin. I can't believe you're doing this.
That was Will, not Austin. That's on me.
Speaker 3 Excellent work by you as always, Chris. It's why you're in the chair that you're in.
Speaker 3 I still maintain that the penguin feels to me closer to a fish than a bird, just because I don't think of birds spending a lot of time swimming underwater.
Speaker 3 And so forgive me for that error, but I still put it on the poll. Put it at Lebatard Show.
Speaker 3 To you, what is a penguin more of? A fish or a bird? I just want to see what comes back. I just want to see what comes back.
Speaker 1 It's got wings.
Speaker 1 So voting for all those matchups and all of our first-round matchups will be for 24 hours. Right now, go to our social media, vote for the matchups, decide who wins, and we will update next week.
Speaker 1 Dan, I will say, the body of the penguin, very sleek in nature, right? So that's why the fish kind of thing, like in smoothie. No feathers.
Speaker 1 No feathers.
Speaker 3 You got no feathers to put in your cap off a penguin.
Speaker 1
What are you talking about? Every penguin does not fall. They're all buttered in feathers.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Is this a thing? Once people confuse penguins with fish, this is not a thing.
Speaker 3 I don't think it's a thing. I think I'm the only one who does it.
Speaker 1 They have feathers. I think of them as sleek.
Speaker 3 I've never seen a penguin feather away from the penguin. like that's not that's not something that i've seen is a flutter of fish
Speaker 1 i think it's like a killer whale i think uh yes i think of the penguin as having a they're just wet because they're they're they go into the water right more than other birds more than all the other birds you want to watch march of the penguins i mean they're in snow that's also why there's moisture on them
Speaker 3 i learned a lot during march of the penguins did you learn that they were birds I know that they're birds. I'm saying that before learning that they were birds, I thought of them more as fish.
Speaker 1
Can I tell you, speaking of penguin, a couple weeks ago, I went by, I passed by Batman Returns on television. Penguin, Danny DeVito.
Movie's horrible. Horrible.
No, it's a great Christmas movie.
Speaker 1
Movie is horrible. Christopher Watkins in it.
I hadn't seen it in probably 25 years. Movie is horrible.
I love when the penguin goes to like the holiday party. He's just like, yeah.
Speaker 1
Ooh, good impression. Nobody thinks it's weird that he looks like that.
Like, it's
Speaker 1 just like.
Speaker 1 Yeah, he runs for mayor. Awful movie.
Speaker 3 In In terms of things not holding up, I remember, okay.
Speaker 1 I mean, Rudy Giuliani looked the way that he did.
Speaker 1 When
Speaker 3 Jack
Speaker 3 Nicholson played The Joker, it was seen as seminal and groundbreaking.
Speaker 3 And then you see Heath Ledger or you see Colin Farrell do The Penguin and you look back at the 90s and how we were doing those things and
Speaker 1 none of it holds up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 yeah you seem disgusted well I was disgusted because it felt like a part of my childhood was taken from me where the original Batman and Batman returns I thought were really good movies and then I passed by this drek with Danny DeVito and I just how how did anyone I immediately went to Rotten Tomatoes to see what the tomato meter was on Batman returns because it had to be one of the lowest rated movies ever and I just didn't know it and like it's got a high score and I don't get it the movie is horrible I mean there's still Batman and Robin I mean, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1
Yeah, but everybody knows that movie sucks. I feel like people think Batman Returns is good.
It's not. That movie is bad.
Really? Disappointed in this tech. I happen to really like that one.
Speaker 3 Can you guys just find for me, please, what I associate always with the best and funniest video ever produced by Batman in any form, which is
Speaker 3 the original Batman television show. With them running? No, this is a great one.
Speaker 1 If you have not seen this. At George Coley's Nipples.
Speaker 3 No. No, I'm going to the original.
Speaker 3 i'm i'm going it's from the movie uh and or adam west batman yes adam west batman and it's the helicopter scene where batman is hanging from a ladder and is attacked by a shark and it's it's the graphics from 1960s so he's using a shark repellent to get a shark that's off like the helicopter is hovering over the ocean this is groundbreaking for its time but it's clearly a toy plastic shark and uh i want to find that video and simply put it up on the screen And I just want to watch it together,
Speaker 3 even though this also alienates the audio audience. I just want to enjoy this together
Speaker 3 so that we can howl with laughter the moment that this shark attacks. Tony has not seen this.
Speaker 3 Please just focus on Tony's face right now so that you can see his reaction to when the 1960s, our friend Adam West, the late Adam West, has a problem with a shark that emerges from the water because the TV graphics and special effects aren't quite up to snuff.
Speaker 1 Just stay on Tony's face.
Speaker 1 He's dropping all into the water.
Speaker 1 Whoa!
Speaker 1
Robin is short. It just touched him.
I love that Robin had to break it to him. You got a shark on your leg.
Speaker 1 You are supposed to punch the nose of a shark, by the way. It's so inflated.
Speaker 1
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