The Hockey Show: Catching Up With The Voice of Hockey

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Speaker 21 Welcome to the hockey show.

Speaker 22 That's David Dwark over there to hockey news in the shipment container. It's Ethan and Rosie.
My name is Roy Bellamy. If you are watching on DKN,

Speaker 22 you can see the Bob Estrusen interview. We're going to have him on later on the YouTube channel for Levaton and Friends.
Just click on the playlist tab and click on our folder.

Speaker 3 It will be there. So.

Speaker 24 Before we start, I just want to celebrate and I want to put something up there because Roy just graduated from school learning how to skate a skate.

Speaker 18 So there he is. Look at him.

Speaker 24 Very good graduation.

Speaker 24 If you cannot see the video.

Speaker 25 I saw the picture of him belly.

Speaker 26 I was just going to say he's on his ass.

Speaker 18 He's on his belly.

Speaker 28 Looks like he did a great job skating.

Speaker 29 oh yeah he did it

Speaker 22 he did uh good so now he graduated uh congratulations same look on my face as i was to start the show as i was interrupted by rosie yeah there you go you can you can keep going i just needed to give you props thank you how many goals did you score roy one one nice one and rosie wasn't even there actually two Two.

Speaker 22 And Rosie wasn't filming for the first one, which was bar down. The second one, like bar down.

Speaker 25 Your first goal was bar down? Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's a beauty.

Speaker 22 The sound reverberated throughout the practice.

Speaker 13 That must have been an incredible feeling.

Speaker 22 Yeah. The stick went up on that one.
Yeah.

Speaker 25 I'm scared.

Speaker 23 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 22 Saturday on tomorrow.

Speaker 27 You want to put this out there?

Speaker 25 Like, people might show up and like, heckle us.

Speaker 3 I hope they do.

Speaker 23 They'll be hecking with me, really. But yeah,

Speaker 22 we are going to do stick and puck. I don't know.
You're going to be there for it, Rosie. You see.

Speaker 22 You're going to be non-plus about it. But yeah, we're going to do TFT.

Speaker 6 Hi, boys.

Speaker 22 And Dave's going to be in full goalie gear. Oh, my God.
Yeah, so that's going to be interesting.

Speaker 25 We're getting old, man. First time in a while.
Yeah.

Speaker 25 First time since the knee surgery. Oh.

Speaker 19 When was the last time you stopped on the pads?

Speaker 25 I don't want to put a number on it. It's just been a minute.

Speaker 22 I'll try not to deke you out of your pads there. That's probably not going to be good.

Speaker 30 What is stick and puck?

Speaker 22 Stick and puck is full gear. You just go out and you fuss around with the puck.

Speaker 18 But you're doing this yourselves.

Speaker 25 You're not going somewhere. Well, it's organized that the Panthers practice right.
But they open up the ice to anybody that wants to do it. Kids can do adults.
So

Speaker 25 I'm bringing my kid. I've been waiting to do this.
So him and I can skate together.

Speaker 25 So my kid's going to do Dangle Roy. He'll

Speaker 22 fall on my belly.

Speaker 29 Oh, yeah, for sure. Kim will toad.

Speaker 25 He'll turn me inside out. And then Rose can just laugh if she's there.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 22 I doubt that she will be.

Speaker 24 Yeah, me too.

Speaker 31 All right. A legend

Speaker 22 is getting his number retired. In Detroit, the number 91 jersey of Sergey Federal is going up to the Raptors at Little Caesars Arena, a building that he did not plan.

Speaker 22 He played all 13 of his years with the Red Wings in the Joe Lewis Arena. You've been there.

Speaker 6 I have.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it's a nice little farm. It is a nice farm, nice barn that they got there.
So he scored 400 goals and 554 assists with Detroit and won three Stanley Cups there.

Speaker 22 He finished his 18-year career with 483 goals and 696 assists. It's a knife jersey retired by the Red Wings.
It will be.

Speaker 22 And a lot of us, I mean, well, the two of us in this studio grew up watching 90s hockey. So seeing that is

Speaker 3 a real treat.

Speaker 25 What's the first thing when you think of Sergei Fedorov? What's the first thing that pops into your head?

Speaker 23 Russian, basically.

Speaker 22 Because Russian 5, I mean, the Red Wings really made that one famous.

Speaker 25 I actually watched that last night. I watched like two-thirds of it, and then I fell asleep.
But no, that's... When I think of Sergei Fedorov from the 90s, I just think of white Nike states.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 22 He's the the only one doing it.

Speaker 25 He was the only one doing it, but he made it look good.

Speaker 22 Yeah, the fad did not carry over. No.

Speaker 25 I mean, Nike hockey year in general didn't really make it.

Speaker 22 No, no, no, no. But Detroit, the jerseys were made by Nike.
It wasn't made by CCM like all the other teams.

Speaker 6 Oh, that's true. Yeah.

Speaker 25 You can saw and say, what's your Federoff memory from before you were born?

Speaker 18 Well, first of all,

Speaker 33 I saw his white skates on Twitter the other day, but I also saw a video of the game where he scored five goals.

Speaker 34 And he scored all five goals, including the overtime winner.

Speaker 18 I saw it come across my camera the other day.

Speaker 6 I had a footage of that.

Speaker 25 That's my win of the week footage.

Speaker 6 Don't you guys want to spoil it?

Speaker 18 You just spoiled it.

Speaker 25 No, my win of the week is, we're talking about it now. I'm going to change it on the fly.
So if you want to play my win of the week video, Rose, that's what Ethan's talking about.

Speaker 15 Anyway, the passing, the hockey that's being played here is so much different than the hockey that I feel like we watch today.

Speaker 19 Like the passing, the movement, some of these plays that Detroit was making.

Speaker 33 Look at this tic-tac passing.

Speaker 25 He needs to watch footage from Yager in the early 90s.

Speaker 25 If you really want to to see something that's insane, the puck control that Yager had back in the day, not to take any smoke off Federov here as we celebrate him, but yeah, like when I think of like somebody who just the puck was literally stuck to his stick tape.

Speaker 33 This is beautiful. Look at this passing.

Speaker 36 But what changed?

Speaker 37 Like what's so different?

Speaker 19 Because I know scoring went up because the goalie pads increased and they kind of learned how to play the position. But like, why don't you really see this kind of passing and movement anymore?

Speaker 28 Is it the way people defend now?

Speaker 22 Well, the neutral zone trap is pretty much no longer there. I mean, entry is a bit easier.

Speaker 35 Like, they got rid of that.

Speaker 22 But, I mean, there's not a lot of patience being shown by the capitals in this highlight package.

Speaker 25 There's also a reason that

Speaker 25 they were creating this game. Like, this wasn't happening every day.
Like, the storing was much lower in the 90s. And, like,

Speaker 25 guys like Fedorov and Lemieux and those guys that were on another level,

Speaker 25 they set themselves apart.

Speaker 25 Dude, the Red Wings were a conundrum in the 90s.

Speaker 22 Yeah, that was definitely the team of the 90s. We can definitely agree of that.

Speaker 22 We have reached the time of the year and it's ice shaping time. It's time to build the ice.

Speaker 22 And the Anaheim Ducks, I don't know if they were the first to release their video, but that's the first that I saw, first team that I saw to release their ice building video so far.

Speaker 22 Now, you can see them on this video putting down the water mixed with the paint. They ended up painting the lines on the ice and putting down the plastic tarps with the logo and the ads.

Speaker 22 It's that time of year, y'all.

Speaker 25 Almost there. What do they show the center ice logo? Because I'm very curious.
Because there's only one that I want to see in Anaheim.

Speaker 22 Yeah, they're about to do it right here.

Speaker 22 They're putting down the center line, which is

Speaker 25 that logo right there. What's on his...

Speaker 24 I think it's that one that they put in.

Speaker 15 I could watch videos like this all day.

Speaker 14 Every time I see it, it's so satisfying.

Speaker 25 Duck.

Speaker 19 I mean, it is dwerky.

Speaker 23 It is. Basically,

Speaker 31 very good.

Speaker 22 Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 25 Very good. Okay.
Good job, Anaheim. Yeah, it's beautiful.
The only other team that I can think of that's played any kind of similar video is in Utah because they've been showing the videos of them.

Speaker 25 They've redone the entire inside of the Delta Center to make it, because they had the funky sight lines and everything last year.

Speaker 25 So they've been, they posted something like that, and it looked like they were putting either the ice down or the piping underneath it, but it is so cool.

Speaker 25 The guys were out there talking about how football is back, and I don't know, like, hockey is like right behind it. Yes, yes,

Speaker 22 very excited, bro.

Speaker 29 Oh, it's coming. Month and a half.

Speaker 6 Rose is going to go nuts.

Speaker 25 Hockey, college basketball, you're going to be.

Speaker 22 Logging air merrels.

Speaker 24 Yeah, no, it's going to be a hard couple of months.

Speaker 25 I mean, hopefully the hurricanes are good this year.

Speaker 25 So you and Lucy can stay local?

Speaker 24 Oh, no, buddy.

Speaker 24 When there's a hurricane, they send us a week prior. Last time we were a week prior.

Speaker 3 No, no, no.

Speaker 18 I don't mean an action prior to me.

Speaker 25 I mean

Speaker 25 the football team that plays here.

Speaker 39 No, David doesn't want hurricanes to be good in Miami.

Speaker 24 No, I don't think we're going to go to a hurricanes game.

Speaker 6 I have no idea.

Speaker 25 They have amazing fan ambience.

Speaker 4 Bro, what I do.

Speaker 24 I just get into the plane and they just tell me where I'm going. And sometimes I don't even know where I'm going.

Speaker 6 Okay. I believe it.

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Speaker 22 Somebody owes $5. Dave, what's your win of the week?

Speaker 18 My

Speaker 25 win of the week is on the fly because I actually had my win of the week as Fedorov's number getting code. But that's fine.
Because there's something else that's happening in Detroit that we can honor.

Speaker 25 And that I actually

Speaker 25 thought was going to be my win of the week and it's I'm gonna if you guys can help me out here I'm gonna stand up

Speaker 25 it's what's on my my sweatshirt here they're putting hockey town back at center ice this is gonna be the center ice logo right here hockey town boom keep in mind that this is the 100th anniversary of the Detroit Red Wings and it's the 100th year and it's gonna be a really cool looking center ice logo because it's gonna have the 100 and the hockey town and I think that's awesome as we're talking about center ice logos in Anaheim it's I bought this hoodie years ago just because I think that's such an iconic look, the hockey town.

Speaker 25 So, props to you, Red Wings. I will be enjoying that.

Speaker 22 Looked like that hurt you standing up and sitting back down. Dude, shut up.
I'm sorry. The win of the week for me goes to Team USA.

Speaker 22 The Helenka Gretzky Cup is an under-18 international tournament that showcases draft eligible talent.

Speaker 22 And Team USA, who barely squeezed by Team Canada in a shootout win in their semifinal game, earned a shot at gold and they got it.

Speaker 22 They got out to a 5-3 lead in the second period against Team Sweden and shut things down. It is Team USA's second gold medal in tournament history.
The tournament is 34 years old, so congratulations.

Speaker 22 Congratulations to them.

Speaker 34 That's the World Juniors, the Gretzky-Halinka Cup, the men's world championships, and Team USA won gold in the Women's World Championships, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 18 That is correct.

Speaker 19 Four gold medals for Team USA this year. USA hockey on the rise.

Speaker 3 All right, my win of the week.

Speaker 19 Guys, you know how much.

Speaker 24 let's see what happens in the Olympics.

Speaker 22 Let's see what happens.

Speaker 27 We'll get to that in a second.

Speaker 26 We're excited about that one.

Speaker 19 All right, my win of the week is Sam Reinhart.

Speaker 18 We all love Sam Reinhart. That's my win.

Speaker 32 We all love Sam Reinhart.

Speaker 39 I love Sam Reinhart more than anybody.

Speaker 19 And he got his day with the cup. And he, the picture that went around of him on the boat was epic.

Speaker 39 But what was really epic was they posted a video on the ANHL Twitter account of him working out with the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 29 Describe it. Like bench pressing it

Speaker 19 and putting it on one of the sleds. Yeah, and pushing it.
It was awesome. And that's just a great way to show off.

Speaker 39 Not only am I better than you, not only am I stronger than you, but I'm a two-time defending Stanley Cup champion.

Speaker 29 I scored four goals in game six.

Speaker 19 I scored the game winner in game seven the year before.

Speaker 35 What a resume for Sam Reinhardt.

Speaker 22 Yeah, shove it in the face.

Speaker 17 Rosie.

Speaker 29 My win of the week goes to this guy.

Speaker 24 I don't know who did it, who he is, but

Speaker 25 Corey Perry.

Speaker 24 He made hockey interesting for 10 seconds. Look at that.
He threw everything away, grab a small puck, and once again, go. There you go.
He made hockey interesting for 10 seconds.

Speaker 29 He made hockey interesting for 10 seconds.

Speaker 18 Whoa, okay.

Speaker 22 So this highlight came when he was a duck.

Speaker 23 Like,

Speaker 23 this is his one Stanley Cup, by the way.

Speaker 3 How long ago was that? I'm on it.

Speaker 24 I don't know, but you.

Speaker 25 That was definitely an all-star skills conference.

Speaker 24 That's my win of the week. They made me watch a video 10 seconds and I enjoyed it.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 19 Corey Perry hasn't been a duck since 2019.

Speaker 24 Uh-oh. There you go.

Speaker 22 Okay. David and I have.

Speaker 25 2015.

Speaker 6 2015. 2015.

Speaker 25 Or 2012. Those were the two times Brian Elliott was an all-star.

Speaker 22 Okay. David and I have a dual fail of the week.
This is a major, major fail that came out of Reddit.

Speaker 25 We failed today with our wins and fail, like just organizing. Like clearly.

Speaker 18 Yeah, we don't talk to each other.

Speaker 25 We got to get back. And it's not like we send them to each other during the week or anything.
It's not like we actually do do that. So that's what it's like.
What are we doing?

Speaker 22 Anyway, I'll let this Reddit user whose name is Chiddy explain why this is a fail.

Speaker 7 There is an absolutely wild theory going around about the Buffalo Sabres goathead logo, and I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.

Speaker 7 Someone mentioned on Reddit that they've thought that the Buffalo Sabres goathead logo has been oriented left the entire time. What?

Speaker 7 So by that logic, does it mean that this is what the logo technically should be interpreted as? Should there be teeth on the left side and a tongue?

Speaker 4 This kind of looks like a half buffalo, half rat kind of situation and i don't know

Speaker 7 you could ever come to this conclusion to be honest like this just seems a little too nuts someone actually photoshopped the logo oriented left on a goat and you know what the more look at it maybe that is how it's supposed to be opposite goat not a buffalo given everything else on the logo the nose the way the eyes are facing there is no way that it's supposed to be oriented left in my opinion it's absolutely right what are your thoughts my thoughts are this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 22 It's a buffalo. I can't.

Speaker 29 I don't see it.

Speaker 27 Yeah, it's not a goat.

Speaker 18 Right? Like, it's a buffalo.

Speaker 22 It looks like a goat because it looks like a goat, but it's a buffalo. You don't see buffaloes with that color.

Speaker 29 That doesn't look like a goat.

Speaker 40 That looks like a buffalo.

Speaker 27 Goats don't have horns.

Speaker 23 Well, buffaloes aren't silver.

Speaker 3 They don't.

Speaker 23 So that's why it looks like buffalo.

Speaker 18 It doesn't matter. Goats are evil.

Speaker 6 I don't like goats.

Speaker 24 Color doesn't matter, but.

Speaker 38 It does matter.

Speaker 24 Yeah, but structure does. Like, that's a buffalo.
What is it?

Speaker 3 Goats in Americas.

Speaker 22 Well, the buffalo saber is a name after swords, but it's in the city of Buffalo. That's why the Buffalo is the mascot.
Oh, that's good. Yeah.

Speaker 22 I don't.

Speaker 18 Why do they want to change it to a goat?

Speaker 25 When I saw this picture,

Speaker 22 they had changed it.

Speaker 25 I made attempts. I put it up.
I lowered my eyes. I put it back up.
I hide it. Just so I could try to reset my vision and try to see it from that.
I could not do it. I cannot see it left-facing at all.

Speaker 25 It didn't work for me.

Speaker 22 It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 22 We have a minute left. Do we have any time for you two to get your fails in?

Speaker 29 My fail can get off.

Speaker 19 My fail is to the Hockey Hall of Fame Twitter account that decided it was a good idea to post a video of Sam Reinhart hammered talking again.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 41 Hi, guys. I am out here in West Vancouver, in my hometown, with Margaret and Walt, two of the top 10 cupkeepers we have today.

Speaker 41 There's probably less than 10, but they're probably up there.

Speaker 41 It's been an absolute pleasure.

Speaker 41 I'm completely honored to donate my sticks from Game Six to

Speaker 41 Life.

Speaker 41 I can think of no better place.

Speaker 24 Rose. Fail of the week is this.
Here it.

Speaker 24 Why?

Speaker 3 Oh my god, what is that?

Speaker 24 The puck disappeared. Nobody knows where he goes.

Speaker 18 It's in his

Speaker 3 equipment.

Speaker 3 We don't know.

Speaker 24 You repeat it, repeat it, and you don't know?

Speaker 22 Yeah, that's not even the worst one because sometimes it could get in the goaltending, goaltender's padding and go into the net, and that would be a goal. Like they just back up into the net.

Speaker 25 That has happened before.

Speaker 6 It's happened in Buffalo.

Speaker 22 Yeah, it has happened before. Bob Rachusen is coming up next.
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Speaker 22 Bob Rashushan is in hockey group tats that I'm not a part of because I have an Android phone and I'm not happy about it.

Speaker 15 The voice of hockey.

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Speaker 22 But we're going to talk to him about hockey.

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 22 the grind that is

Speaker 22 announcing and doing broadcasts during these playoffs, it's just ridiculous. How do you get through, especially the first two rounds of the Stanley Cup playoffs as a broadcaster?

Speaker 17 But it's what we wait for, right? So, like, yeah, I don't, I mean, it's hard. It's that the schedule is a grind.
You know, the last couple of years,

Speaker 17 let's say even all four years, I think,

Speaker 17 you know, we'll,

Speaker 17 because we alternate nights with Turner, we have hockey nights and NBA nights rather than following a series.

Speaker 17 So, because we'll put hockey on, say, like the first week of the playoffs, you know, Sunday through Wednesday or Monday through Thursday. And then they kind of take over Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

Speaker 17 We come back Sunday.

Speaker 17 And when they have hockey, we have NBA and vice versa. So you don't follow a series.
It's not like you get assigned, you know, Panthers Lightning and you just follow it all the way through.

Speaker 17 So I'll do like a game one Monday, game two, Tuesday, game or game one, Monday.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I'll do a game one Monday, a game one Tuesday, back to the other series, game two Wednesday, back to the other series, game two Thursday.

Speaker 17 You just get up early in the morning, go to the rink, do some interviews, go back, grab a nap, do a game, get up the next morning, go back to the airport, do the same thing over again.

Speaker 17 But it's the best part of the year if you're a hockey fan. It's like what we wait for.
So I never complain about the lack of sleep.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I was going to say, what typically happens on a game day for you?

Speaker 17 It totally depends on like what the coaches want to do in terms of their meeting schedule, but it's one of two things.

Speaker 17 Either either we go to the morning skate and watch you know whatever we watch and then talk to the coaches after that or we'll go to the rink you know two and a half three hours before the game and meet the coaches then at some point we're going to talk to the two coaches that's really like the the box you have to check because they will tell you in you know and they know the information's in the vault we're not going to share it with the other coach We're not going to put it out on social media, but we need to know injuries, who's in or out of the lineup that night are you changing your lines who's the starting goaltender th those types of things just so in our truck they can build what they have to build we can make the corrections to our charts we have to make um so it's really just based on their schedule what they want to do so um it's either real early to the rank to meet them or we go to the morning skate The morning skate, when I first started doing hockey and I was like the backup guy for the Rangers for MSG in the early 2000s, we're going back about 25 years.

Speaker 17 The morning skate was sacrosanct.

Speaker 17 Like you literally only had an optional morning skate if you played like the second half of a back-to-back on the road and your team was old. And even then,

Speaker 17 most of the veterans would show up for morning skate.

Speaker 17 If the morning skate was on just a normal homestand, even if it was a back-to-back, but you slept in your own bed or, I mean, even if you had a night off the night before, everybody was at the morning skate at all of them.

Speaker 17 And now I would say they're like 50-50 optional or full.

Speaker 17 So we definitely don't get the same information that we used to get from them because so often they're optional and it's just half the team doing drills just to get a sweat in.

Speaker 25 When you talked about going game one, game one, game two, game two, like and I hear that from a broadcasting standpoint because I know like the preparation that goes into just trying to get for one game.

Speaker 25 You have got your stat boards with every player. You've got information.
You've got little stories that you're referencing. How do you, how, how is it like not get super confusing?

Speaker 25 And everything is jumbled up when you're going from two teams to two different teams, back to the same two teams, and you got to keep track of everything.

Speaker 25 Like, it just sounds like incredibly challenging.

Speaker 17 I don't know. I mean, I don't want to make it like I'm splitting the atom or something, right? Like, I'm a hockey broadcaster.
I just, I'm looking at the guys on the ice and I call the game.

Speaker 17 I part of it probably has, at least for me, to do

Speaker 17 with just the

Speaker 17 cumulative work I've done during the year to get ready. Um, very rarely am I going to have a team in the the playoffs that I either haven't watched a lot of or have had

Speaker 17 myself during the season. So, I mean, you do have kind of that vault of accumulated knowledge during the year.
I've watched these teams and I recognize all these guys.

Speaker 17 And also now, it's a lot easier than it was four years ago. I mean, I'm about to enter my fifth year of doing this again in the league.
You know, this isn't college sports, right?

Speaker 17 College sports, if I had, say, Clemson football last year, and now I get assigned a Clemson game or an LSU game or something, and I pull my chart out from last year, and I look at it, I'm like, God, like none of these dudes are still on the team, right?

Speaker 17 They're either, they either transferred because they didn't get enough playing time or they went to the NFL.

Speaker 17 So, yeah, like there's a little bit of carryover, but it is not unusual at all. Like, if I had a Miami football game this year, I mean, the quarterback's gone.
I know that.

Speaker 17 So I'm starting fresh at quarterback.

Speaker 17 You know, and obviously you got a big name transfer in there. So you got to bring your Georgia chart out to to get ready for Miami.

Speaker 17 You know, the NHL, if I look at the guts of almost every team from last year to this year, they're all basically the same. And there are a handful of guys that move around.

Speaker 17 And free agency seems crazy is that 50 guys change teams. Well, even if 50 guys change teams, there's 32 teams in the league, right? Like you're only talking about.

Speaker 17 two or three guys a team that move around. Everybody else is the same.

Speaker 17 So there's that also helps is that not only the cumulative work I've done during the season, but also the fact that in pro sports, guys sign three, four, five, six plus year contracts and stay on the team that they're on for a while.

Speaker 17 And that makes it a lot easier.

Speaker 29 Bob, the reason we have you this week is because you're about to head out for the college football season before you get started with the NHL.

Speaker 32 You've also got Jets preseason.

Speaker 44 So

Speaker 28 what's the schedule looking like? And how does it compare to the NHL?

Speaker 32 I mean, you just told us about some of the differences, but

Speaker 19 in terms of the enjoyment and in terms of going to places like Lubbock, Texas or things like that, like how does you know, how is the college grind different?

Speaker 17 Yeah, it's different because the travel mostly makes it different, right? I'm unlucky. Week one, I'm in Atlanta.
Like, our crew is going to do the two games that are in Atlanta.

Speaker 17 So that's Syracuse, Tennessee, and Virginia Tech, South Carolina. So big city, non-stop flight, normal hotel, NFL stadium, all good.

Speaker 17 Something that I I do not take for granted about the NHL in a big, big way is that, like, I used to do a lot of college basketball, and now I do

Speaker 17 the NHL.

Speaker 17 So, yeah, like non-stop flights, normal hotels, big cities, airports with more than six gates is nice.

Speaker 17 You know, but my life doesn't really get super crazy until it all starts to overlap.

Speaker 17 And of course, that'll begin opening night because not only will I do opening night, but like, I think last year I did a dozen NHL games for ESPN before,

Speaker 17 you know, before like

Speaker 17 the ball games for college football. So I did, and what, you know, what's how many weeks is that, right? It's like second week of October through the end of December.

Speaker 17 You know, you're talking about 10 or 11 weeks.

Speaker 17 I did like a dozen games.

Speaker 17 So I was doing basically college football, a weekday hockey game and the jets for like 10 weeks straight basically um that's when all three of those things intersect and overlap it does get a little messed where are you opening night sorry roy for hockey yeah are you here we haven't been told yet oh we need you here box we have not

Speaker 17 it's opening day here i'm keeping my fingers crossed i'm gonna be in person watching a banner go up as well

Speaker 25 i think there's at least a better than 50 50 chance that'll happen it'll be nice because then if you watch the banner go up you still get the night off because the game is at five instead of like at a normal time.

Speaker 17 Well, if you guys were on the hockey chat, you would know that after that game, I'm assuming there's going to be some type of post-game at the Rainforest Cafe.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Rainforest Cafe.

Speaker 31 Oh my god. Lordian fuel.

Speaker 17 So, so the first round of drinks at the Rainforest Cafe will be on me if I get that.

Speaker 29 Yeah, Bob, if you get that game afterwards, we're linking up.

Speaker 35 Beer's on me, though.

Speaker 17 Oh, but the hockey bar is too far away. Yeah, right.
Like, for a post-game.

Speaker 25 No, no. That's, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 That's it.

Speaker 25 That's a schlep.

Speaker 22 That's a schlep. Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 17 But like I said, the Rainforest Cafe is a walk.

Speaker 23 Yeah, it's a walk. Okay.
Yeah, but I mean, I said, like, it is a grind.

Speaker 22 I mean, I felt bad for Emily Kaplan, our friend, just for her doing her job going back and forth. But I feel worse for all the play-by-play guys.

Speaker 22 Like, because of multiple sports that you guys have to do, it just doesn't make any sense. Did you even get a vacation?

Speaker 17 Yeah, we, you know, snuck in. June and July are good months for me.
I have no complaints about, you know, like, I basically am a school teacher when it comes to like, you know, my schedule.

Speaker 17 I basically work non-stop from Labor Day through like Memorial Day. And then when Memorial Day hits, I get some time off to not be in airports for a little while.
And now it all kicks back in again.

Speaker 17 But nobody wants to hear me complain about my job. I get to go to games for a living.
So

Speaker 17 I certainly won't complain about it.

Speaker 22 Yeah, just like Ethan didn't want to hear us complain about our talk.

Speaker 29 Oh, enough. Enough with this.

Speaker 19 Bob, they've been complaining for two years about having to go to Edmonton, and then they were on the the ice after game seven. The biggest

Speaker 26 NHL history.

Speaker 1 Game seven was at home.

Speaker 28 Yeah, but you got to be there.

Speaker 19 I would have gone to NML.

Speaker 18 NC2 lost 10 times back. They lost.

Speaker 25 They were like 13-2 in those two games or something. It was like.

Speaker 22 And we had to go through like six airports

Speaker 23 each way.

Speaker 18 What are you talking about?

Speaker 25 Come on.

Speaker 17 I'm going to go to the next one.

Speaker 17 I have yet to go to Winnipeg. Oh, thank God.
I haven't been to Winnipeg yet. I'm anticipating at some point the stars might align and I may get to go to Winnipeg.

Speaker 17 I think I've been to every other Canadian city that has a team. The last time I was doing hockey, Winnipeg wasn't Winnipeg.
They were

Speaker 17 Atlanta. So,

Speaker 17 you know, the Jets have since returned to the NHL since I started doing this again. But I would have to say, of all of the places that I've been,

Speaker 17 yeah, like Miami, Fort Lauderdale, like South Florida to Edmonton, that's got to be about the, not even just distance-wise, the biggest schlep,

Speaker 17 but about the biggest, like

Speaker 17 everything

Speaker 17 being completely different dichotomy between two cities. Thank you, Bob.

Speaker 17 Ethan did not understand.

Speaker 29 I understand completely the travel.

Speaker 33 I'm just saying, you guys got to be on the ice after game seven.

Speaker 40 That's all it is.

Speaker 29 That's all it is.

Speaker 6 Game six.

Speaker 18 Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 17 You can't throw that back either.

Speaker 22 You have a top five, Ethan. Go ahead.

Speaker 19 Yeah, so we mentioned that Bob is in the hockey chat famously, that Roy is infamously not in.

Speaker 29 And

Speaker 29 I consider Bob a friend. We've hung out.

Speaker 28 We've had a couple beers.

Speaker 33 He watched the Gators win the national championship with me famously. Had to put up with that.
So I concocted a list.

Speaker 29 My top five people broadcasters that I would like to have a beer with.

Speaker 19 Strong list here.

Speaker 6 All right.

Speaker 19 OLI, friend of the show, John Butchergross.

Speaker 35 There we go.

Speaker 19 All right, John Butchergross, OLI.

Speaker 19 And if Bob has any good stories about drinking with any of these people, I would love to hear it after this list.

Speaker 29 Number five, Kenny Main.

Speaker 19 Number four, the San Francisco Giants broadcast team of Dwayne Kuiper and Mike Kruko.

Speaker 28 Number three, this isn't necessarily a beer, but I'd like to have a steak and a brandy with this guy, maybe Al Michaels.

Speaker 2 Not that I've ever had a brandy in my life.

Speaker 19 Number two, Chris Berman.

Speaker 2 Number one, this should be easy.

Speaker 33 Come on, guys. Harry Carey.

Speaker 2 Who wouldn't want to have a beer with Harry Carey?

Speaker 31 well it would be impossible

Speaker 30 well you can't do it now but

Speaker 25 if you were a hot dog and you were starving would you eat yourself

Speaker 34 there's only one answer and it's yes yeah who would be your number one in broadcasting you would like to have a beer with uh Vince Scully

Speaker 24 I miss Scully me uh will be Ariana Grande

Speaker 22 wait a minute no that's not that's not a that's not a broadcaster

Speaker 32 sports broadcaster

Speaker 29 she's not a she is famously a Big Panther fan.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 22 But she's not a play-by-play, a colour, analyst. That is the list.

Speaker 25 Nobody mentioned Al Michaels.

Speaker 26 Al Michaels was third on my list.

Speaker 40 He wanted to have a nice job listening.

Speaker 30 A brandy. Yeah, a brandy.

Speaker 17 Yes,

Speaker 25 he'd be my number one.

Speaker 17 All right, wait, the zoom for me froze for a second. So I heard Kenny Mayne, John Bucci Gross, Al Michaels.
I missed the other two.

Speaker 34 Number four is Dwayne Kuyper and Mike Kruko.

Speaker 19 Number two is Chris Berman.

Speaker 32 And number one, of course, Harry Carey.

Speaker 27 The spots for you.

Speaker 6 Hey, Norm.

Speaker 2 Bob, do you have any great stories with any of these people?

Speaker 19 Or can you just tell us a great Boog Shambie story?

Speaker 17 Well, I can tell you a bunch of great Boog Shamby stories, but

Speaker 17 no, the other five guys now,

Speaker 17 I mean, a couple of ESPN seminars, a few cocktails, but not nearly the depth of

Speaker 17 John Shamby stories that I would have.

Speaker 22 Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know him very, very well since too well.

Speaker 17 Yeah, way too well. Too well.

Speaker 22 As roommates. So, yeah, you should know.

Speaker 25 So, John, in the spirit of Bob, you're talking about

Speaker 18 five dollars. It's all about dollars.

Speaker 25 That's, oh, my goodness. All right.
Well, let me resign it.

Speaker 25 All right.

Speaker 25 All right, Bob, in the spirit of the top five, and I'm going to put you on the spot here. So if you can't, you know, recall all this at once.
I totally get it.

Speaker 25 I wanted to see if you could your top five moments that you've called to you.

Speaker 17 Not necessarily the top five that we would think, but just if you could remember your favorite moments that you called maybe not necessarily top five but yeah no they all i mean at least right off the top of my head i'll have to think of five but right off the top of my head i would think um you know i go to like playoff overtime winners right for hagey nice um was a great one

Speaker 17 um

Speaker 17 i had an i had barkley goodreau against the panthers that was fun though game two eastern conference final at the garden um series went okay for florida yeah yeah that's right.

Speaker 17 Ultimately, it was a happy ending for the Panthers.

Speaker 17 Maybe the Bobrovsky save.

Speaker 31 Oh, the

Speaker 17 Lightning.

Speaker 17 Yeah, like the windmill save.

Speaker 25 I feel like you're curating this to your audience, and I appreciate that.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I'm trying. I had,

Speaker 17 I would say, like

Speaker 17 the last game we did this past year

Speaker 17 was pretty good. I did game six in Dallas when Dallas was

Speaker 17 in overtime, right? But at the same time, remember that was the

Speaker 17 Scheifley goal the day after his dad had passed. Yeah.
Yeah. Right.
So like there was the emotion like of watching him break down, of having,

Speaker 17 you know, the like the slow handshake line of every guy spending some time with him. It just, that was one of those peaks into the culture of hockey.
Yeah. Right.

Speaker 17 Of like everybody on the Dallas stars knew exactly what Mark Schifley was going through, and they all spent a little extra time with him.

Speaker 17 But I would say my number one moment in doing this, probably, I think it was the first year that I was doing this, was,

Speaker 17 and obviously it takes on a whole different level as a memory in terms of significance,

Speaker 17 was

Speaker 17 in Calgary, Johnny Godreaux in double overtime beating Dallas

Speaker 17 in the game where Jake Ottinger stopped like 65 of 67 shots or something. It was the best performance I've ever seen by a goaltender and a loss, certainly.
And then Godreaux won it in overtime.

Speaker 17 And, you know, less than a year and a half later, he wasn't with us anymore.

Speaker 22 The thing I think about

Speaker 22 the Jet Stars game, the mountaintop and valley of the situation was Mark Scheifley scored, and then he took the penalty that led to the Thomas Hawley overtime goal.

Speaker 17 Correct.

Speaker 22 Like, that's that, that's just like, oh my goodness, that's on the opposite end of the spectrum.

Speaker 25 I remember we were texting about it as it happened, and you actually texted me. You're like, he bet, they better not score with him in the box.

Speaker 25 And then, like, just as I read the message, the goal went in.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I threw my phone when that happened.

Speaker 35 The moment that stood out to me from that was Mason Marchmont, who had also lost his father. I think within the last year or two,

Speaker 13 him

Speaker 35 consoling Mark Scheifley after that was unbelievable. That was an incredible moment.

Speaker 22 Losing Brian Marchman, that one, that hurt. And seeing Mason Marchman being in this league, doing as well as he is right now,

Speaker 22 that's great to me.

Speaker 3 That's like, you know, we had another moment.

Speaker 17 I'll give you like a similar moment. It was a regular season moment, but it was

Speaker 17 one of those, again, like just a peek into the culture of the sport and the guys that have been in the sport forever, literally.

Speaker 17 Ovechkin, we one of the games that I called called of his chase for the record, they played

Speaker 17 Minnesota.

Speaker 17 And right at the end of the season,

Speaker 17 and

Speaker 17 as the game was over, and I want to say like Washington won late and there was like a big celebration.

Speaker 17 I can't remember exactly how the game ended, but what sticks out to me is right after the game was over,

Speaker 17 Ovechkin yelling up the tunnel to half the guys that had left the rink, hey, get back out here, because he recognized it was right at the end, it was the last time they were ever going to see Mark Andre Fleury.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 17 And they all lined up and shook his hand. That was cool.

Speaker 17 And Ovechkin was the one that we had, we had a camera on him because obviously he had a camera on Ovechkin doing everything, right? An isolated camera, followed him everywhere.

Speaker 17 And we caught the whole him like end of game and then having this recognition of, oh, wait a minute, I have to go get like, right, like legend recognizes legend, and you, I i have to go get the guys out of the tunnel everybody has to come out here and shake this guy's hand and so that was a pretty cool moment too you mentioned ovishkin uh he's going to play next season now one of the biggest questions i guess going coming into this upcoming season is is this his final season so what are the biggest questions coming into this upcoming season to you well i mean Are the Panthers going to run it back?

Speaker 17 Probably. Right.
Like, to me, that's going to be a story that'll dominate the whole year because

Speaker 17 how often do you you see a team that has all of these guys

Speaker 17 that could probably across the board be making more money elsewhere? All basically being like, you know what, palm trees and sunshine in January and February and winning, not a bad combo.

Speaker 17 And so they're all kind of collectively doing what Tom Brady did. all those years in New England.
Like Tom Brady, of course, had a supermodel wife that made more than him.

Speaker 17 So easy to give the team a hometown discount. But, you know, you get a bunch of guys giving the Panthers a hometown discount so they can keep it together and try it again.

Speaker 17 And I'm fascinated to see if it works again because in a way it'll be awesome if it does because like it would reward guys for caring more about winning than about their paycheck. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 17 Quite frankly. And I like that.

Speaker 17 Like I like guys that care more about winning and about don't mess with happy and about realizing that they're in a great place on a great team with a great group and saying, you know what, that's worth sacrificing 20%, 30% of what I might be able to make elsewhere.

Speaker 17 So fascinated to see how that works.

Speaker 17 I mean, I'm in New York, so I'm always wondering about the Rangers. Yeah.
And will they squeeze into the back end of the playoffs? If they get there, what will their team look like?

Speaker 17 I mean, they basically kind of admitted at the trade deadline this past year that they just flat out got it wrong because they tried to totally overhaul their team as much as they could on the eve of the playoffs, basically, just to try and make that run.

Speaker 17 Didn't work. Will it work this year? The one thing the Rangers have is they have the goaltender, yep, right? Like the jumping-off point for any team is you want to know you've got the goaltender.

Speaker 17 Um, and

Speaker 17 you know, they have the goaltender. So, those are the two, you know, teams, like just off the top of my head that I'll be interested in following all here, see how it works out.

Speaker 22 Is it just that they need, is it time for a culture shift up then for the Rangers because of the way that they handle bring tortz back?

Speaker 3 Yep, no, no,

Speaker 38 always a good idea to bring tortz back.

Speaker 3 Oh, no,

Speaker 17 Culture, I mean, to me, it's just being honest about your roster and the type of guys that you've got.

Speaker 17 And I hate to say it, but the Rangers, unfortunately, have proven to have a lot of regular season stats accumulating players that when they get to the playoffs, get exposed, right?

Speaker 17 Like Zabanajad, Panarin, Fox. They have not been.

Speaker 17 the players in the postseason for the last couple of years, not even getting there last year that they were, you know, in the regular season and you know it it just again speaks i think to the genius of bill zito that bill zito recognizes what a what a of today

Speaker 17 what a playoff hockey player looks like and would i rather have a barkoff a lundell a loaster rainin' you just go down the list guys that like barkoff at a superstar level but i don't know is he gonna be better than an 80-point player in the regular season?

Speaker 17 Maybe, maybe not. If he's better than an 80-point player, he's not better by much.

Speaker 17 You know, the other guys might be, you know, 40-point players. And yet, who would you rather have in the playoffs? What type of player would you rather have in the playoffs?

Speaker 17 Those guys or some of the 90, 100, 110-point guys that can just be taken out of their game because those guys, the Lundells and Los Doranas, go out there and stick a fist at their chest

Speaker 17 in the playoffs and take them out of their game.

Speaker 17 And to me, what it goes to show is you have to look past the statistics and look past the regular season numbers and say to yourself, like, what type of game does this guy play?

Speaker 17 And when I get to the playoffs, what type of player am I going to want? And the Panthers have figured out, especially on their third and fourth lines, a lot.

Speaker 17 Like, look, they've got the Reinhardt, you know, superstar scorer.

Speaker 17 Barkoff, obviously, even if he doesn't put a ton of points up, Selkie winner, like, they've got star players in their top six, but their bottom six has a lot of guys that are no fun to play in a seven-game series.

Speaker 17 And I think some teams miss that a little bit. Like they miss going and getting some of those guys.
And Bill Zito's really smart about how he puts it together.

Speaker 31 All right, Bob.

Speaker 22 Go and enjoy football.

Speaker 25 Well, I mean, he's up to Jets, so, you know,

Speaker 17 you're not going to enjoy tonight, so I'm not sure how much up to enjoy it.

Speaker 15 Can you tell our Panther propaganda has worked on Bob, by the way, that we've been feeding it to him for the last year or so?

Speaker 17 Well, I mean, they're back-to-back champions.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 17 And they've been in the finals three years in a row. Like, it's not hard to

Speaker 17 drink the Kool-Aid, right? Like, if I was on an NFL show and was talking up the Chiefs right now, it probably wouldn't be because somebody had to sell them to me. They're pretty darn good.

Speaker 22 Yeah, there's a, we got a bit of a history here of the final winning.

Speaker 22 You know, just three years of history, I guess. A little bit.
All right. That's it, Bob.
We appreciate you joining us here today. Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 17 Anytime I can do it, guys.

Speaker 32 See ya.

Speaker 22 Thanks to Bob with Chusin for joining us. And thank you to Ethan and Rosie and Gino and Jason for helping us out.
For David Dwork, my name is Roy Bellamy. We will see you next week.

Speaker 3 Bye.

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