Hour 1: Tony's Top 5 Returns (feat. Senator Mark Kelly)

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Speaker 9 It's a sad and scary time in America. You will forgive me for the gloom of what it is we're about to talk about.
We will get back to the silliness of sports and other things in a second.

Speaker 9 Senator Mark Kelly, he's a former U.S. Navy combat pilot.
He's an astronaut. He's now the senator for Arizona.
Thank you for joining us, Senator.

Speaker 9 What was your immediate reaction upon hearing the news yesterday that conservative activist Charlie Kirk was shot and killed in front of a crowd in Utah?

Speaker 17 Well, I was horrified, as I think most Americans were and should be. I mean, this political violence like this

Speaker 17 has no place in our society, and it really demonstrates kind of the worst of us. We've seen this kind of, you know, violence on, you know, both sides.

Speaker 17 We saw what happened to Melissa Hortman and a couple of months ago and her husband in Minnesota killed.

Speaker 17 What happened to my wife, Gabby Giffords, you know, shot in the head in 2011.

Speaker 17 So we see this over and over again.

Speaker 17 And, you know, to me lately, I mean, the thing that you know, immediately comes to mind is the horrible situation that his wife and kids and parents and siblings

Speaker 17 now find themselves in.

Speaker 17 I've had sort of that experience. My wife in 2011, she survived.
She's got serious and significant disability because of it.

Speaker 17 We shouldn't have

Speaker 17 this in our country happen over and over and over again.

Speaker 9 How do we stop it?

Speaker 17 How do we stop it? I think that this is a combination of some factors I think that brought us here.

Speaker 17 Certainly

Speaker 17 on one side, it's just

Speaker 17 how divided we've become politically. I also think that there is just easy access to firearms.
We have a very high rate of gun violence in general.

Speaker 17 Over 100,000 people are shot and killed every year in our country. We are like no other developed

Speaker 17 country.

Speaker 17 in the world when it comes to when it comes to gun violence. So how do we stop it? I mean, we could strengthen our gun laws.
We could also try to find opportunities to just bring us together.

Speaker 17 You know, I serve in the United States Senate as a Democrat,

Speaker 17 and

Speaker 17 I've got strong relationships with my Republican colleagues.

Speaker 17 I think the general public just thinks it's actually more, maybe more contentious and divisive than it actually is in Washington.

Speaker 17 The media, I'm not saying you guys, but the media often highlights negativity. There are a lot of positive things, and there are times when we should work to bring this country together.

Speaker 17 I think this is one of those times.

Speaker 9 That all sounds good, but it doesn't sound much like a solution. And I know we have these conversations every time, but it seems like we've lost our sense of humanity

Speaker 9 in this landscape. So I'm sure you noticed, right, that the conversation immediately goes to to gun laws and then politics.

Speaker 9 Just take a side and blame another side and the humanity gets lost in there somewhere.

Speaker 17 Well, I think it's fair to blame both sides. I mean, that is, you know, the reality of the situation we live in.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 17 I also think it's short-sighted to ignore gun laws, you know, in our country. I mean, we've got.

Speaker 17 you know, weak gun laws. We have high rates of gun crime.
Those things are clearly connected. You look around the country, and you know, states that have stronger laws have less gun violence.

Speaker 17 You know, that's that's clear. I think at this moment, what we should be thinking about is Charlie Kirk's family

Speaker 17 and his wife, his children. He's got a three-year-old and a one-year-old that are going to grow up without their dad.

Speaker 17 And that's just horrible.

Speaker 17 But if you want to get to

Speaker 17 how do we prevent

Speaker 17 future

Speaker 17 acts like this?

Speaker 17 We have to find a way to unite this country. We've got to have leaders that are really willing to step out there and say this isn't who we are

Speaker 17 and not vilify

Speaker 17 Democrats or Republicans.

Speaker 17 That does often happen. And I've seen it.

Speaker 17 I saw it in 2011 when Gabby got shot and I see it over and over and over again.

Speaker 17 But I could tell you this,

Speaker 17 if we don't work to

Speaker 17 try and fix this, this could get a lot worse. I think we're at a moment in our country's history, a lot like it was in the 1960s, how divided we were then, and you saw rising political assassinations.

Speaker 17 And this was a political assassination. I mean, we don't know the exact motivation of this person, and we don't know how he got the gun or who he was yet.

Speaker 17 I think we will find those things out, but I think it's clearly that this was political.

Speaker 9 To that extent, though, the manhunt for his killer, for Charlie Kirk's killer, is still underway after two suspects were previously taken under custody and released.

Speaker 20 How does that happen? How is that possible?

Speaker 17 Well, you know, I'm the son of two cops. You know,

Speaker 17 these things are challenging. I've also lived through this with, you know, my wife and investigation.
And, you know, her.

Speaker 17 assailant or the guy that you know did this and killed six individuals was apprehended at the scene. This is different.
It's complicated.

Speaker 17 You know, the FBI and law enforcement took these two individuals into custody, questioned them, released them. I could see how that could happen.
You know, when they have a suspect,

Speaker 17 they should be taking those kind of steps.

Speaker 17 I don't fault them

Speaker 17 in any way for that.

Speaker 17 You're going to see the full force of the FBI and federal law enforcement put on this, and I'm confident that we will apprehend this individual.

Speaker 21 Senator, I know you mentioned that we fear that it could get worse.

Speaker 8 I feel like we crossed that Rubicon already. Most politically motivated attacks, there's a disassociation between us and the act of violence, but the video and

Speaker 21 the person representing a movement has changed this.

Speaker 8 But also,

Speaker 21 these things are typically messier.

Speaker 8 Multiple shots, a manifesto of some sort, a trace, a suspect.

Speaker 24 Eyes, we're usually further along on this.

Speaker 8 This seems like a professional hit.

Speaker 12 So I feel like we crossed that.

Speaker 16 This is the scary territory, I think, that you alluded to, sir.

Speaker 17 Yeah, well, and that's one of the reasons why, you know, folks in like my position and House members and governors

Speaker 17 need to, you know, take a step back and see how, you know, what should we be doing at this point?

Speaker 17 You know, I'm trying to get out there and, you know, speak about this in, you know, what I think is a responsible way. You know, we're not, you know, pointing fingers here,

Speaker 17 but also recognizing that we have a problem.

Speaker 17 And, you know, the problem is

Speaker 17 politicization and,

Speaker 17 you know, just the kind of rhetoric, you know, that people use today. And

Speaker 17 I think it's gotten worse over time. And I've, you know, seen this from both Democrats and Republicans.
And,

Speaker 17 you know, we've got to figure out a way through this. And, but we also can't ignore it.

Speaker 17 You know, on this individual event,

Speaker 17 you know,

Speaker 17 I think the FBI is going to figure this out.

Speaker 17 And none of these are exactly the same, and they've got a hard job ahead of them. But I have confidence in the FBI and local law enforcement there that

Speaker 17 they will handle this appropriately.

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Speaker 9 Trump addressed the news from the Oval Office. He expressed his admiration for Kirk while blaming the radical left political violence.

Speaker 9 How should people feel when we hear President Trump alluding to potentially going after after organizations he views in opposition to him as a result of yesterday's murder?

Speaker 17 Not good. I don't think people should feel good about that.

Speaker 17 I think in our country's history,

Speaker 17 every president has looked at

Speaker 17 when things like this happen, they look at it as an opportunity to unite us, to bring us together, not divide us.

Speaker 17 You know, I didn't agree with Charlie Kirk on most things,

Speaker 17 but I also recognize, you know, that he is a human being. He has a family.

Speaker 17 He has every right to be there on a college campus expressing his views.

Speaker 17 You know, I defended the Constitution flying in combat in the First Gulf War. I would do it again to protect his right and people like him.

Speaker 17 But I, you know, I didn't agree with him.

Speaker 17 But what I saw yesterday from the president, I hope I see something else today. This is the anniversary of 9-11.

Speaker 17 This is also an opportunity to try to find some common ground among all Americans and try to find a way, you know, to kind of push us together in our humanity, but to turn down the temperature.

Speaker 17 I didn't see that yesterday from him. I do understand that the President knew Charlie Kirk personally and was very fond of him.
So I'll give him a little bit of a pass for yesterday.

Speaker 17 But what I would like to see is you know, him really, you know, working towards uniting us as a country.

Speaker 9 What kind of conversations have you had in the last 24 hours with your fellow senators and colleagues on both sides of the aisle?

Speaker 17 Well, you remember this happened late in the afternoon.

Speaker 17 And

Speaker 17 I have

Speaker 17 communicated with both my Democratic and Republican colleagues about

Speaker 17 just how horrible this is, about how this, you know, this guy had a family, and he was not much older than my eldest daughter. I have a 30-year-old daughter.
I have a four-year-old granddaughter.

Speaker 17 I mean, his kids were three and one.

Speaker 17 Just, I mean, forget about the politics for a second. I mean, this was a person who, you know, people loved him, you know, and

Speaker 17 I've got Republican colleagues that know this, that knew Charlie Kirk personally. And I don't agree with Charlie Kirk's views, but I respect my colleagues and I'm friends with them.
And this was a

Speaker 17 friend of theirs. And I get that.
And this is a very challenging time for them.

Speaker 17 You know, I've been through this before, you know, with my wife, Gabby, being shot in the head and in the hospital for six months and then a recovery and being in the middle of this shitstorm that you find yourself in, that his family has now found itself in through no fault of their own.

Speaker 17 And, you know, I've got probably dozens of Republican colleagues who are friends of mine that were friends with Charlie Kirk, and they're mourning this loss. And I feel for them.

Speaker 9 You believe in this country? You believe in this country's ideals. I imagine that you're a hopeful person.

Speaker 9 Have you felt as hopeless as you have over the last couple of years, the threats to our country from every side?

Speaker 17 Hey, I am

Speaker 17 never a hopeless person. Like, I am an optimist, right? I look at

Speaker 17 the, you know, the strengths of our country are

Speaker 17 much more powerful than our shortcomings.

Speaker 17 And I think the future of our country is great. We are the most generous, innovative country in the world.
And I think we have a bright future. I think we do go through historically.

Speaker 17 We've seen other times in our country's history where we've had you know, very difficult and challenging times. And I do think we're going to get through this.

Speaker 17 I think we've got to all recognize that it's not going to be easy and we've got to work at it. But, you know, for in my job, you know, I sit on the Armed Services and the Intelligence Committee.

Speaker 17 I, you know, I see the threats out there to us as a nation, not just internal, right? External threats all the time, every week. The challenges, you know, that we, you know, face from our adversaries.

Speaker 17 And I worry about it a lot.

Speaker 17 But I don't get to the point where it ever seems hopeless to me.

Speaker 9 Let me ask it a different way then.

Speaker 9 The amount of despair that you feel at the moment, the threat to democracy, our country, and its ideals, you have felt this way the way that you have over the last five or six years.

Speaker 9 You've had things happen to you. You've seen everything that's happening.

Speaker 9 Is

Speaker 9 this time more perilous to you? Does it feel more perilous than previous times?

Speaker 17 I think this feels

Speaker 17 pretty awful.

Speaker 17 It's a horrible thing that happened. And

Speaker 17 I see how how some people could feel, you know, despair.

Speaker 17 I don't feel despair, you know, over this. I, you know, I'm certainly, you know, sad about it, what happened to him and his family and our political system.
And this is,

Speaker 17 you know,

Speaker 17 this hurts and it's damaging, damaging to us as a country. I also think we can find our way out of it.

Speaker 35 You mentioned that we shouldn't be finger pointing and we should be taking a step back, but your Republican colleagues have already pointed the finger at Democrats.

Speaker 25 Don't you find that kind of rhetoric irresponsible?

Speaker 17 Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I think they're hurting, you know, right now. And in some cases, you know, this was a friend of theirs that lost his life.
So I get that part of it.

Speaker 17 You know, people have been attacked politically on both sides. Melissa Hortman, state legislature, legislator from Minnesota.

Speaker 17 is a Democrat. My wife was a Democrat.
You know, governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Sapiro, Democrat, tried to burn him up in his house and his family.

Speaker 17 Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan nearly kidnapped.

Speaker 17 The president of the United States, you know, Republican president, tried to kill him twice. You know, we see this, you know, this isn't unique to, you know, one party or the other.

Speaker 17 I mean, we see this across the political spectrum.

Speaker 17 There are bad people out there,

Speaker 17 you know, that just want to,

Speaker 17 wreak havoc and murder people.

Speaker 17 So I understand

Speaker 17 when things like this happen and people are very upset, they're going to say things. I get that.

Speaker 17 Give this a couple of days and I think people will calm down and we can really start thinking about some solutions.

Speaker 9 Senator, I thank you for your time. This is obviously somber subject matter.
I don't know how to transition from this into the other things that we do, so I'm hoping you can help me.

Speaker 9 Do you have a favorite football allegiance of some sort? Do you have a strong football opinion of some sort?

Speaker 9 Something you can give me to somehow try and transition out of what it is that we're presently doing.

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Speaker 9 Well, I could break

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Speaker 17 You're absolutely right. I am a football fan.
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Speaker 17 I also have to say, just watching the Minnesota Bears game,

Speaker 17 not a big fan of Minnesota. I was really impressed with this quarterback, especially in that last quarter.

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Speaker 17 That guy, I think that guy really has a future.

Speaker 27 Thank you, Senator.

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Speaker 19 No, you can't be tired of it.

Speaker 17 I am not tired of him.

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Speaker 22 He's going to win a playoff game, though.

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Speaker 22 Not you, Senator.

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Speaker 9 But can you please get me? Because I think I want to do this until the World Cup, Chris Cody.

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Speaker 16 Yes, sir.

Speaker 32 NFC championship game, perhaps.

Speaker 9 So Tony's got a top five of football observations to get to. Let's do it.
Do we have the music? Do we have everything ready that is required so that Tony can fly?

Speaker 47 All right, everybody, Tony's top five.

Speaker 48 Week one.

Speaker 2 The great return.

Speaker 30 Feels good to hear that music in its proper context.

Speaker 2 Hey, we're going to start no old lie, Dan, just straight five in week one.

Speaker 47 There was a lot of observations, but I had to put them all down into five.

Speaker 30 As the weeks go on, I'll have more and more as is custom.

Speaker 26 Don't threaten us.

Speaker 1 Number five,

Speaker 30 Gino can still sling the pill.

Speaker 44 Did you see him on the first couple of drives against New England?

Speaker 27 Absolute lasers across the field, man.

Speaker 9 Mina was saying, Mina, Mina, who I trust on this sort of stuff. Mina was saying before that game, that Raiders' offense is going to be better than people think.

Speaker 30 Fun offense, Chip Kelly at the helm, Ashton Genti, you got pieces, Brock Bowers, Geno slinging the pill.

Speaker 15 Brock Bowers playing this weekend. Sorry, Mike, is he playing this weekend?

Speaker 37 Yeah, he's all right.

Speaker 8 Half the game's at a dome. Do yourself a favor.
Check out Geno Smith's dome stats.

Speaker 27 Incredible, probably.

Speaker 14 Oh, dude, he's like two times a quarterback.

Speaker 16 He's incredible.

Speaker 8 The Raiders are going to be in this conversation.

Speaker 37 Mark my words. Wait a minute.

Speaker 24 Playoff conversation.

Speaker 8 Wait a minute.

Speaker 22 They might be for real.

Speaker 28 What?

Speaker 15 What?

Speaker 9 Are the Raiders for real? No, not might be for real. We've been asking that one for 25 years.

Speaker 9 We've asked Rick Springfield that. No, are they for real?

Speaker 9 So are you willing to say, are you willing to say, September 11th, Wednesday, 2025, after 25 years, we have an answer to the question, and the answer is yes. Are the Raiders for real?

Speaker 8 I need to see the Monday Nighter.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 22 a Monday nighter that I think they win.

Speaker 3 But then they have the commies the week after that, followed by the Bears, which we don't know about the Bears yet. Colts,

Speaker 3 colts is pretty good at colts undefeated at home the colts right now from a win-loss perspective right now they're 1-0 no no no i mean like as we project well we have to see monday night monday night i think that's a win to win

Speaker 20 okay

Speaker 3 wait you think what's a win no no no that's it that makes them two and oh that's two and oh if they win

Speaker 3 but then they have the commanders two and one all right bears

Speaker 3 versus they're hosting the bears that's a don't dome field advantage what's next after that after that you go to indy where again the colts are juggernaut undefeated.

Speaker 3 Then they have Cam Ward, who's probably going to be settling in. Cameron Ward, I should say.
He's going to be settling in.

Speaker 3 Then at the Chiefs.

Speaker 49 We don't know.

Speaker 38 We don't know, though.

Speaker 27 We don't know, though.

Speaker 3 Any guess. And you have been predicting that Tyreek Hill will be there at that point in time, so it could be a new look change.

Speaker 9 I think you're undermining Tony's star segment.

Speaker 48 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 39 He likes this. No, no, no.

Speaker 24 I'm in on this.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 13 We still have another 12 games.

Speaker 9 I think he's doing the skills.

Speaker 6 Then there's the buy to reset. Okay.

Speaker 2 You reset at the buy.

Speaker 10 Ashton Denzi gets hot after the buy.

Speaker 3 The Jags come into town. Tough game.

Speaker 14 Come on.

Speaker 1 Tough game.

Speaker 19 I don't think it's a tough game. Tough game.
Tough game.

Speaker 28 Suck.

Speaker 20 I could get flexed.

Speaker 3 At Broncos.

Speaker 40 Tough game.

Speaker 3 That one. And it's a Thursday nighter.

Speaker 44 Good Thursday night games.

Speaker 15 I can't believe how good these Thursday night games are. It's crazy.

Speaker 9 Crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 31 Number four.

Speaker 19 Number four, funny enough, are the Chargers for real?

Speaker 4 We're going to have a are you for real off in the afc west i mean the chargers are are what one and oh right now i mean spank the chiefs host the raiders

Speaker 44 then the broncos come to town tough games in the afc west man i mean that's one of those that you just don't know

Speaker 3 then they fly across the country to the giants

Speaker 9 put it on the poll please at levitard show more for real raiders or chargers man justin herbert looked amazing in brazil i believe the chargers are for real but i i think everyone thinks that right like In 95, they host the Commanders.

Speaker 12 Wow. That's a test.

Speaker 3 And then the Dolphins, who at that point.

Speaker 9 Most people listening to this think the Chargers are good, yes?

Speaker 15 What if I told you, according to DraftKings, Chargers,

Speaker 15 even with the Chiefs,

Speaker 2 to win the AC West?

Speaker 24 I'm telling you.

Speaker 34 What can I get the Raiders at?

Speaker 15 Plus 190 for the Chargers. Raiders,

Speaker 15 they're fourth, plus 1,000.

Speaker 13 That's a competitive.

Speaker 13 That's a competitive flyer.

Speaker 30 Throw a little something on there.

Speaker 9 You're saying they're for real if you're taking a flyer.

Speaker 48 I said they win on Monday night.

Speaker 40 Well, then they're for real.

Speaker 43 They are.

Speaker 9 Then, wait a minute. You said Monday night we went to realize that they're not.

Speaker 39 You know, we gotta wait until they do it.

Speaker 9 No, but you said they think they went there.

Speaker 37 That means

Speaker 49 right now that makes me think that's one man's opinion.

Speaker 27 Right, but they're just gonna prove to me that they're more for real.

Speaker 9 I have not heard that they're for real for 25 years around here. Nobody knows.
It's a mystery. I like the quarterback.
You're saying they're for real.

Speaker 37 He's good in a dog. You're saying they're for real.

Speaker 23 They have weapons.

Speaker 49 Do you know about the weapons?

Speaker 13 I found out why they left at 2:17 a.m.

Speaker 3 Why was it?

Speaker 10 Dude, okay, so witchcraft.

Speaker 19 Number three.

Speaker 15 there's a witch a witch yes witch that's it no more spoilers no no more spoilers yeah it's streaming now you can watch it at home if you'd like you got those streaming services which one figure it out i'll talk to you after number three

Speaker 2 jj mccarthy showed me some major cojones on monday night you throw the pick six you come back you do what he did on the road As a rookie because he didn't play last year.

Speaker 47 He's a rookie to me.

Speaker 33 He should win rookie of the year if he plays well, by the way. Not a rookie.

Speaker 20 He's a rookie.

Speaker 47 Didn't take a snap. He's a rookie to me.

Speaker 2 Got paid.

Speaker 47 He goes in and does what he did in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 44 Major Cohen is Dan.

Speaker 9 Put it on the poll, please, Juju. Did the senator know J.J.
McCarthy's name? He didn't.

Speaker 47 And that's why I can't take his Kyler Murray take seriously.

Speaker 12 Whoa.

Speaker 8 That was so weird.

Speaker 30 And you reminded me of that and my armpits got hot again.

Speaker 14 Are you married tonight?

Speaker 8 Have we learned from the Josh Allen thing, Dan? I feel like you were trying this Tuesday morning.

Speaker 22 You were like, well, let me just stop short of actually heaping praise on the young man.

Speaker 44 He showed us something.

Speaker 32 I'm willing to admit that I was wrong about J.J.

Speaker 44 McCarthy because I'm brave and I like admitting I'm wrong.

Speaker 16 You need to be prepared to do the same.

Speaker 9 I just

Speaker 9 am hesitant to think that JJ McCarthy will be able to put up better stats this year than Sam Darnold did with that team next year.

Speaker 9 I don't ever expect that from a quarterback who's just starting his career. And I didn't expect it from J.J.

Speaker 9 McCarthy through the first three quarters of that game when it didn't look like he was going to do anything.

Speaker 44 But then he showed you what he had.

Speaker 3 And you expected it from Sam Darnold?

Speaker 9 No, I did not expect it from Sam Darnold. All I'm saying is that it's not reasonable to assume that a quarterback this early in his career will put up better numbers than Sam Darnold did.

Speaker 9 You guys are getting tricked by the fact that it's Sam Darnold, and you're like, why can't he be better than Sam Darnold?

Speaker 9 I'm saying the numbers put up by Sam Darnold last year were numbers that made me feel like that wasn't Sam Darnold.

Speaker 27 How many times did he?

Speaker 48 Which is why they could be JP. He put up Taro Snow.

Speaker 12 It says Kevin O'Connell have to show you who he is.

Speaker 39 More.

Speaker 37 So the answer is yes.

Speaker 16 You're going to be indignant and stubborn the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 Sunday night, he's got a shot against the Falcons. And then a big one against the Bengals.

Speaker 23 Wow.

Speaker 8 Is this a road game?

Speaker 3 No, it's a home game.

Speaker 8 Oh, wow.

Speaker 44 That's a good sweet spot.

Speaker 16 What do they have after that?

Speaker 3 Then the Steelers come to town. Ooh, and then the Browns.

Speaker 2 Wow, they have a nice little stretch here.

Speaker 3 They have Falcons, Bengals, Steelers, Browns, Eagles all at home before they hit the road and a buy in the middle of that. Before they hit the road, October 23rd against

Speaker 3 the Chargers.

Speaker 15 wow jj mccarthy hurtle full circle tell you what if we're going to keep track of sam darnold jj mccarthy last year after one week sam darnold

Speaker 15 18 for nope excuse me i was looking at january did that backwards that's fine just goes that one 19 for 24 208 yards two touchdowns interception but what happened

Speaker 15 what do you mean what what happened in that game uh they won the game against who Giants.

Speaker 3 What was a follow-up for?

Speaker 9 He thought he was going to prove a point.

Speaker 49 No, because I asked asked him to remember the question.

Speaker 9 It came with a useless answer, and then he was stumped.

Speaker 44 I remember them beating the 49ers in a big game, but I think that was week two.

Speaker 33 That was week two.

Speaker 32 Ah, that was right there, Dano.

Speaker 15 But Dano is Chejo Vika these numbers. Bigger after one week.

Speaker 13 That's planned.

Speaker 47 And Dan, did he showed you what he had?

Speaker 30 Did you see his cojones?

Speaker 2 Yes or no?

Speaker 3 What was that 18 for 40 you were going to give us?

Speaker 15 That was the playoff game.

Speaker 39 That was a matchup.

Speaker 6 18 for 40. Sounds bad.

Speaker 39 Look at it upside down.

Speaker 22 At least someone in that studio can admit when they're wrong.

Speaker 19 I like it.

Speaker 3 Ray Hudson, call it a day, tomorrow.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 26 Number two.

Speaker 44 Packers seem to be a unit.

Speaker 10 That's what I like about you.

Speaker 2 You say things that no one else is saying.

Speaker 2 They seem to be a unit.

Speaker 9 As a number two, though, when you have all week to prepare something as a thought, and you're number two

Speaker 2 seems to be a unit. But here's the thing.

Speaker 27 Everybody's talking about how they are a unit, right?

Speaker 2 I'm saying that they seem to be a unit.

Speaker 23 Oh, so this is like actually. This is like...

Speaker 37 Not so fast, my friend?

Speaker 28 Not so fast, my friend.

Speaker 47 I'm hesitant to call them a unit.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 23 After tonight?

Speaker 22 Maybe? Maybe.

Speaker 1 I mean, tonight's the night. The comments.

Speaker 30 Tonight, tonight is the night after it's coming.

Speaker 37 Who's who so early?

Speaker 31 Ooh.

Speaker 48 But it is, it feels like a who's a measure.

Speaker 14 I know about a who's who makes the context. How about a who's the quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 One of these teams is a contender, and the other one's a pretender.

Speaker 8 Wow. And we find out tonight which is which is separate.

Speaker 32 Contender, pretender, early the week.

Speaker 37 Joy.

Speaker 9 Making in week two you're sniffing a who's who game.

Speaker 37 No, in week two,

Speaker 19 we sussed it out

Speaker 13 up used to be one of them.

Speaker 4 Contenders and pretenders.

Speaker 37 You started.

Speaker 9 No, that's where you ended up. You started by sniffing who's who.

Speaker 24 I can't work things out with my face.

Speaker 9 You've got to be respectful of the cathedral of who's who's game. That's not what we did.

Speaker 14 We were. We were shot there.
No, no, no. Let's ask the question.

Speaker 12 You're judging spitballs, and that's not what you do. You don't even want us to ask the question.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 19 If you're going to sniff around who's who,

Speaker 48 because you volunteered and i wasn't ready for who's who

Speaker 9 that's a december that's a december conversation

Speaker 13 agree it's a little bit later contending you gotta start the conversation forced him to fly across the country and he was already across the country

Speaker 3 it's a classic mix

Speaker 32 you say over there you got armor you guys don't mix it up i'm gonna separate you guys

Speaker 32 point is

Speaker 32 they seem to be

Speaker 23 They seem to be a unit, but I want to see how that offense gets together because their offense, even though they have a good quarterback, a lot of B pieces, right?

Speaker 30 They don't really have an A piece on offense outside of quarterback.

Speaker 9 They seem to be a unit. I feel like you've changed your opinion of this during the segment because

Speaker 49 we can work shop things.

Speaker 37 I'm just against things out.

Speaker 32 Colts Broncos, could that be a contender potential?

Speaker 14 What's after that? What's happening? Oh, week for the Broncos.

Speaker 3 That's this week, Colts Broncos.

Speaker 8 What's after that for the Broncos?

Speaker 3 Let's see.

Speaker 22 Give me a moment.

Speaker 27 Yeah, pull them up.

Speaker 9 Tony, give us the rest.

Speaker 37 Number one.

Speaker 6 Did you hear that, Daniel? At Chargers.

Speaker 14 Oh, my God. I mean, the Chargers are in the mix.

Speaker 9 You slap the table like Brian Kelly.

Speaker 27 I heard it.

Speaker 20 Oh, you heard that, right?

Speaker 30 Do you know what that sound was?

Speaker 33 That was your hand? That was the...

Speaker 33 That was the Super Bowl window closing for the Lions in 49ers.

Speaker 30 Oh.

Speaker 14 What? It's over. It's over.
For broke.

Speaker 32 The 49ers have the easiest schedule in the world.

Speaker 47 I know Dan Harry wrote, and I wrote something on my sub stack saying about how Brock Burdy could be the...

Speaker 37 Hold on, Dan. What?

Speaker 28 Hold on, dude. What?

Speaker 21 And, like, we want to talk these things out, right?

Speaker 27 Agreed. Okay.

Speaker 8 The Niners do this thing where they get hurt in the beginning.

Speaker 32 But everybody's hurt.

Speaker 10 And then they get healthy at the right time of the year.

Speaker 23 Sure. You gotta forecast that.

Speaker 47 Here's the thing.

Speaker 30 The soft tissue injury with George Kittle scares me because the hamstring is like off the bone.

Speaker 22 What about the Jennings shoulder? There's a lot.

Speaker 47 They said he's good, though. And Brock Purdy.
Brock Purdy, turf toe and shoulder.

Speaker 30 But he's going to be out the next four weeks.

Speaker 2 I don't want to put him on an aisle.

Speaker 37 So there's a lot of

Speaker 37 things happening.

Speaker 47 But CMC playing well.

Speaker 44 Ricky Pearcell, by the way.

Speaker 38 Back.

Speaker 37 There's something there.

Speaker 9 Mike Ryan mentioned that I like giving tasks and assignments. So I want to get you guys to do some math for me here on something because...

Speaker 27 We're your math friends now?

Speaker 9 You can be my math friends you can apply for the position here by helping me do some math uh because i was uh talking about the ravens yesterday and i was saying turn this music down please i i was talking because it's it it's over that's his that's his we were still talking

Speaker 27 about yeah he still got a lions he could agree with me on the lions though he didn't even say like that window that was like an open and shut like window he didn't even say anything about the lions he knows it i have the lions schedule here if you want it i need to see this

Speaker 9 there's a big issue i don't know a tough road a hoe for the lions you can Let's save that for later when we're off air and no longer doing a show, and you can say everything you want about the schedule of the league.

Speaker 3 There's Ravens, Browns, Bengals, Chiefs.

Speaker 22 I mean, they got the best this week, and you got to lie.

Speaker 8 They know how to stop Ben Johnson.

Speaker 22 They saw it every day in Bragg.

Speaker 15 According to DraftKings, the Lions now are third shortest odds in the division to win.

Speaker 19 Third, plus 450.

Speaker 28 Their schedule is behind the mic angle this season.

Speaker 9 The point that I was making about the Ravens yesterday that I want to cross over to today, because there are only two good teams in the league that suffer from this particular affliction.

Speaker 9 The San Francisco 49ers and Shanahan is viewed as somebody who blows leads late.

Speaker 9 But the number that I wanted to give you on Harbaugh that I didn't give you yesterday when I said that they've blown nine games with a 90% plus win probability is that they have blown 17 second half double-digit leads under Harbaugh.

Speaker 9 And if I do the math on this math, friends, if I just made made all of those wins, would they suddenly have a better winning percentage over the over that stretch than the best teams in the league?

Speaker 9 Would they have a better winning percentage than Kansas City?

Speaker 9 Would they have a better winning percentage than the Patriots at their very best if I gave Harbaugh all 17 of those victories that he has a double-digit lead in?

Speaker 28 Yes.

Speaker 9 You think they'd be the best team in the sport very obviously if they if I just made all of their double-digit leads wins, none of the collapses losses.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I feel like we could do that because, okay, are we giving the other good teams at blue games, are we going to give them their games too? We could do that, but

Speaker 15 the Chiefs certainly haven't blown the amount of games that you're describing to me right now that the Ravens have. So the answer, yes.

Speaker 3 Carry the four is like 8.75 we got.

Speaker 22 We were looking at the Lions schedule.

Speaker 49 What a game.

Speaker 14 14 straight tough games.

Speaker 3 I don't think Tony was tough enough on them. They may miss the playoffs this year.
The Lions.

Speaker 20 The windows closed? Do you tear it down?

Speaker 8 Or do you say, like, you know, we went through the game?

Speaker 32 They lost $260 million.

Speaker 15 Better question.

Speaker 3 Fire Dan Campbell.

Speaker 14 No, you don't. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 31 Do so many people want to fire Dampbell.

Speaker 4 If you're Dan Campbell, though, you listen to offers because you look at what's going on.

Speaker 3 You say, I lost my coordinators.

Speaker 44 I don't know about this situation.

Speaker 3 Maybe I leave before they figure out I'm the problem.

Speaker 22 Get out while you can. Uh-huh.

Speaker 3 Potentially. I mean, remember, he had that Texas AM flirtation not too long ago.
He could have come in for a king's ransom, but he decided not to. Wanted to stay put there in Detroit.

Speaker 9 Tony mentioned windows closing, and there was a very small window where Chris Cody was going to make this joke, and it closed.

Speaker 9 So that window is now reopened, and we should have done it about 40 minutes ago, but because the window closed, we're just going to do the joke now.

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