Hour 1: Dan Doesn't Preview Games

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Speaker 12 I found encouraging and somewhat hopeful that even though our country is divided in ways that feel

Speaker 12 just more turbulent than much of anything that I can remember in my lifetime, that

Speaker 12 what happened with Jimmy Kimmel seemed to land on a core principle for Americans that

Speaker 12 didn't exactly create as much debate as it did outrage.

Speaker 12 And given how skewed things politically are, I was encouraged, because there are all manner of horrors happening all over the globe, that many Americans were indignant as Americans that

Speaker 12 that would happen to Jimmy Kimmel and that somebody wouldn't stand up to power when faced with something that didn't feel like it had a lot of precedent.

Speaker 12 So late night television last night did a good job. Jon Stewart and Colbert.

Speaker 12 Jimmy Fallon can't keep up in this space.

Speaker 12 He's not as good at these things as some of the others are, but part of the reasons late night beyond the ratings is under duress is because largely late night has run left and run liberal.

Speaker 12 And we've always accepted that comedians, even though the one you liked, like Johnny Carson, who was benign and you allowed in your living room, or Jay Leno, make fun of power.

Speaker 12 That's a thing in this country that people care about. So David Letterman is, to me, the godfather of all of this stuff.

Speaker 12 I liked him a lot more than Johnny Carson because he was different than Johnny Carson.

Speaker 12 And he's the first person I ever saw on television criticize his employer and have the power to criticize his employer on the platform that the employer gave him.

Speaker 12 So I loved what David Letterman introduced me to when I was in college and I was watching late at night something that felt forbidden. I couldn't believe what it is that I was seeing.

Speaker 12 So Letterman was asked about what happened here with Jimmy Kimmel when he was on a panel and he had a couple of things to say about it. And keep in mind, a lot of people are still running scared.

Speaker 12 They don't know what to say because when you see that happen to Jimmy Kimmel, you no longer know where the lines are.

Speaker 12 you just you can't see that happen with Jimmy Kimmel and think you're living in the same time that you lived in moments ago because what that was was benign compared to other criticisms I've seen from Jimmy Kimmel and others I'm also not really willing to entertain talking about government censorship as if it's a thing that is going to happen when it just happened we're there we're here the alarm bells that were sounded months ago it's led up to this it was all forecasted forecasted.

Speaker 24 You see the FCC chair who wrote Project 25 reveling in it.

Speaker 26 You're here.

Speaker 12 I did find interesting, though, that Americans, whatever their political leanings, if we polled them right now, they would identify it as censorship and would object in this country to the idea of censorship.

Speaker 12 I told you yesterday that coming from communism, I had my family, all they got in Cuba was a government newspaper that they knew was lying to them, that they knew that it was propaganda, and I'm not comfortable seeing this happen right now in America.

Speaker 9 And if I may, like, I'm totally fine with ABC if their executives got together and said we need to suspend Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 18 I think there's confusion as to what he actually said, but that's on him for opening the door.

Speaker 20 It's a sensitive time.

Speaker 18 It's open to interpretation. And if they heard from affiliates, and this was all on the up and up, and they decided to pull him, there are absolutely consequences for things that you say.

Speaker 9 The

Speaker 22 here is the very clear government interference for many people.

Speaker 12 That feels un-American and there is still more reporting to be done on this because I'm seeing reporting and I don't know what's true anymore and this is part of what's happening with the media and the information where you just don't know what's true sometimes.

Speaker 35 I'm seeing

Speaker 12 reports that Kimmel was asked to apologize to Kirk's family and a variety of things. And I just want to see more reporting so I can find out what is true here.

Speaker 12 But I want to get get this sound from Letterman because he's the first one I ever saw have a freedom as a court jester that I didn't think the court jesters had.

Speaker 36 Tell us what you think about what happened last night to Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 14 Well, this is a misery and

Speaker 14 in the world of somebody who is an authoritarian, maybe a dictatorship, sooner or later everyone is going to be touched. But this is me.
For 30 years, I did this for a living. So I see this happen.

Speaker 14 They took care of Colbert. That was rude.
That was inexcusable. The man deserves a great deal of credit.
He's in the Hall of Fame nine times.

Speaker 14 And to be manipulated like that because the Ellison family didn't want to trouble Donald Trump with this move, so they got rid of him. Not only got rid of him, got rid of the whole franchise.

Speaker 14 You're not going to have to worry about anything, Larry.

Speaker 25 It's all gone.

Speaker 14 It's fine. Good night.
And then, my good friend Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 14 I just

Speaker 14 feel bad about this because

Speaker 14 we all see where this is going, correct? It's managed media, and it's no good.

Speaker 14 It's silly, it's ridiculous, and you can't go around firing somebody because you're fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian criminal administration in the Oval Office.

Speaker 14 That's just not how this works.

Speaker 12 Let me hear the other sound from Letterman as well about how he did this. That was a franchise that he lorded over that just ended.
33 years of late-night television that Colbert inherited.

Speaker 12 Let's hear Letterman's other thoughts.

Speaker 14 Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, George Bush II, Barack Obama. Yeah.

Speaker 14 And

Speaker 14 attacked these men mercilessly, never once. Well, Jimmy Carter, not so much, because what can you say about Jimmy Carter? He was just a sweet guy.
But everybody else, we really went to work on.

Speaker 14 And I can remember Bill Clinton, we really went to work on. And then it got so, it was like, whoa, this is a gift.

Speaker 12 What are we going to do, Bill Clinton?

Speaker 14 He's out of office after eight years of Bill Clinton. And then George Bush came along, and it was easy motoring after that.

Speaker 14 But the point is, beating up on these people, rightly or wrongly, accurately or perhaps inaccurately, in the name of comedy, not once were we squeezed by anyone from any governmental agency, let alone the dreaded FCC.

Speaker 12 So yesterday I was talking about the dangers in weaponizing federal institutions to do things like censor.

Speaker 12 And one of the things I said by going after the head of Disney is get off your knees and stand for something. If you have power.

Speaker 12 If you have power and money, use power and money.

Speaker 12 But the thing I wanted to ask you guys is if you're in the position of running Disney and the argument from the leader of Disney is, I got to protect the company and I got to protect the money.

Speaker 12 That's my job. I'm asking you to go outside of your job and have some conviction beyond the felonious ones than the President of the United States has on the resume in terms of conviction.

Speaker 12 I'm requesting something of you that isn't technically part of the job, right? The job is to protect the money, yes? Like even that the money is more important than freedom, correct?

Speaker 12 The business, the job as he has it, and this is his identity, Bob Iger, there were reports he was going to run for president of the United States that he got so popular and got so strong and was so benign as a public figure.

Speaker 12 Is it an unfair request for me to say, get off your knees and stand for something.

Speaker 15 But they need that NFL merger to go through.

Speaker 33 There's an antitrust situation here that the Department of Justice needs to take a little look-see at.

Speaker 20 So if you're Bob Iger and you're getting pressure from the FCC knowing that you got this other merger going on, what do you do?

Speaker 36 They're all exposed.

Speaker 20 And that's because what was in the 1970s where there were 90 media companies and it was spread across many different, you basically have five people, five companies, five entities owning all of media now.

Speaker 12 But I'm asking you guys, what is the job and responsibility of the person running Disney in this circumstance when the affiliates are coming after a treasured employee?

Speaker 7 To protect their mergers.

Speaker 12 To protect everything, to protect all of the money. Like, obviously, this is all a follow-the-money situation.
And you just mentioned that's a giant merger. That's a...

Speaker 12 Disney has been in trouble here for a while because they have not been able quite to keep up with the changes.

Speaker 12 Disney is in a worse position than it has been, but getting the NFL and giving the NFL 10% of ESPN is a move of both smart and desperate.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's a difficult position that Bob Iger is in.

Speaker 22 I think we'd all concede that, and we'd all like for him to do the right thing.

Speaker 22 I used to work for Disney, not crazy about ESPN.

Speaker 32 It's an impossible situation that they are. And I'd say it's BS that the onus to uphold the First Amendment is on them and not the federal government.

Speaker 18 And if I were them, I'd go on the offensive and say, how is this our call?

Speaker 24 Why are we pressured to make this call?

Speaker 21 This is a constitutionally protected right.

Speaker 21 And I would put it, I'd really amplify and turn up the heat on what's going on right now with the federal government because while they're all playing ball and protecting their interests and yeah, that that's sleazy, we're talking about the U.S.

Speaker 20 Constitution.

Speaker 30 We're talking about something that is associated with America.

Speaker 25 It is a fundamental principle.

Speaker 22 And when that government is actually applying the pressure to the private sector, therein lies the issue. That is un-American.

Speaker 12 Except that Rupert Murdoch doesn't seem to lack the stomach for this particular fight. Does he have?

Speaker 46 He's got so many interests, though.

Speaker 20 And like you could say, he's got the one Epstein reporting situation over here that has had a lawsuit discussed.

Speaker 25 But he's also got plenty of other interests that have been willing and able partners of the current administration.

Speaker 12 So you guys don't expect anyone to stand up to the power here because of how compromised everyone is, because because they're leverage if if you're in a position where you have less power as everyone does than the federal government that's not interested in what was previous precedent or previous rules if you've got less power you have to bow because you still have plenty of power but you're always going to have less than this entity you're always going to have less power than the state they're threatening to remove licenses like this is what donald trump said this to a pool of reporters on air force one yesterday these networks they have evening news they criticize me.

Speaker 22 They have licenses. They can't do that.

Speaker 30 This is something that he said.

Speaker 12 So you have to back down from that fight. You have to protect the money.
You cannot stand for anything outside of protecting the money.

Speaker 40 Dan, I think I gave you a playbook. Like,

Speaker 30 you're in a difficult spot.

Speaker 18 So you turn it right back around on the federal government and make this a First Amendment issue.

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Speaker 52 Don Lebatard.

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Speaker 37 Yeah, Paramount couldn't even stand up for the news division at CBS News.

Speaker 35 I mean, 60 minutes, and that, what happened there?

Speaker 3 Like, I don't expect them to, they're going to end up bowing down to this man, and it's very unfortunate.

Speaker 12 Okay, so you bow down, though, but you bow down without explanation? You don't even, you don't even explain any of it to us. You don't even come out and say that.

Speaker 12 You don't explain to us in your voice that, hey, I can't do anything here. You have to know comment.
You have to sit it out. You have to just keep paying the extortionists.

Speaker 48 I think,

Speaker 22 well, we don't know what the game plan is here.

Speaker 45 This was a joke that was told on Monday, right?

Speaker 12 Well, we do know there's been silence in the explanation. That we know.
We know that we're all confused, and in the absence of an explanation, everyone is putting their own explanation in it.

Speaker 21 So I've seen reporting done on this, that Jimmy Kimmel and ABC, they got together. Everybody acted super professionally.

Speaker 16 Emotions were not running high here.

Speaker 9 They were all trying to find what is obviously a very complicated solution to all this.

Speaker 33 There were reports that ABC is hopeful that Jimmy Kimmel and his show, remember, there is an entire employee base here that is also suspended right now looking for answers.

Speaker 24 They are working towards a path to getting back to air.

Speaker 20 And I think the absence of a quote is probably better than a quote that lands on the wrong side.

Speaker 33 That shows that you're kowtowing to the current administration.

Speaker 12 Oh, but why can't you explain to me why, and this is the specific lack of spine that I find everywhere around corporations that I expect to have some spine.

Speaker 12 Can you not come out and say, Jimmy Kimmel has been suspended indefinitely, but it's not because of anything that he said.

Speaker 12 It's because we're under duress from the federal government on our licenses and we've suspended him indefinitely to protect him and this show and our merger. Can you be honest?

Speaker 12 Can you say, can instead of no commenting and hiding in the shadows and making it look like you're doing the weakest possible thing, can you offer us something in the way of an explanation or you just have to hide from the bully?

Speaker 21 I'm sure that there is an explanation that they can give you that is more nuanced than just hide from the bully.

Speaker 13 But I mean, that we've seen, we were at Disney when they were impacted by, you know, MAGA boycotts and ESPN is too woke.

Speaker 20 We've seen that seed change. We've seen it benefit these companies as some of those stances softened.

Speaker 20 And they're, look, this is an emotional time with what happened to Charlie Kirk being terrible and all, and that seemingly being the catalyst.

Speaker 12 What happened to him being terrible?

Speaker 12 And also,

Speaker 12 you have to be careful about how you're saying that some of what he said, much of what he said, was also terrible because posthumously he leaves, he's more useful, he is more useful to MAGA

Speaker 12 this way.

Speaker 20 I mean, it's proven to be a catalyst to

Speaker 20 go in a certain direction, a certain direction that was forecasted in Project 25. So

Speaker 20 they've made no bones about how they try to use the FCC to influence certain things.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 20 fighting back, essentially, has kind of been the stance, using this opportunity, as tragic as it is, to go at enemies and go at enemies of what they view as their movement is certainly something that they're seizing on.

Speaker 20 It's a very complicated thing. There's dollars and cents.
They're a publicly traded company.

Speaker 16 They have this incredibly important merger that I'm sure internally they might be hinging their very survival on.

Speaker 34 So I don't know exactly how you handle it.

Speaker 16 I know how I think I would handle it, but I don't have all the data available to me.

Speaker 22 The problem here is that they're facing this crossroads.

Speaker 40 The problem is that they have to weigh what does it mean if we try to protect our First Amendment rights?

Speaker 48 What does this mean for our merger?

Speaker 53 Because we know if we come out harshly on one side, we're not going to get this merger cleared because they're going to hold that against us.

Speaker 27 Therein lies the issue.

Speaker 37 Everyone understands the tricky position that they're in, and they shouldn't be in this tricky position because the FCC and the DOJ shouldn't be weaponized the way that they are.

Speaker 16 Tone, I will calm down.

Speaker 12 Agreed, but I just would like somebody, if you're not going to fight publicly, at the very least, how about you whimper some form of your truth instead of just being quiet because you don't want in these emotional times to fall on the wrong side of anybody?

Speaker 7 Push back there. People aren't being quiet.

Speaker 18 Did you watch what happened on late night?

Speaker 7 Like, Stephen Colbert, like Stephen Colbert is still doing shows.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm not talking.

Speaker 25 Jon Stewart is owned by Paramount.

Speaker 27 Jimmy Fallon did have a go.

Speaker 40 Everybody carefully, everybody smartly, everybody parodying the situation that we now find ourselves in.

Speaker 43 But people are speaking out.

Speaker 12 I'm not talking about the people who are speaking out who are not responsible for this decision.

Speaker 12 I'm talking about somebody tell me what happened here who made the decision in your voice with your name on it so we have a better understanding.

Speaker 12 And it's not left to the people at the other networks to do the fighting for you because you can't do it for yourself.

Speaker 12 I just want a modicum of truth or explanation from some of the principles, given that in sports, somebody makes a mistake in a game and we've got a microphone in front of their face right afterward, and they're not allowed to know comment.

Speaker 12 They're not allowed to not be accountable about what just happened out there.

Speaker 12 Like, you can't do this stuff in the shadows and expect a public who wants information and doesn't trust the information it's getting with your truth.

Speaker 35 Yeah, but that athlete doesn't have to worry about being sued for $15 billion like the New York Times is right now.

Speaker 29 It's just an awfully convenient place for us to say, like, ABC needs to do more when, to me, there's a very obvious wrong thing here that should unite and I'm actually encouraged by how it has united because there are plenty again Charlie Kirk is a mortar for somebody's a mortar for many who are free speech advocates and this encapsulates both Dems heck independents and and MAGA conservative Republicans they all benefit from our First Amendment rights you're saying and I don't know if I should agree with this because I know this is the corporate model to no comment you do not speak in your your voice as a corporation.

Speaker 12 There are very few corporations like Ben and Jerry's that you don't know what corporations actually stand for because most of them just stand for money and nothing else. How to get more money?

Speaker 12 What do we have to do to get more money? But you're saying it's made worse by simply laying out for people. either in a quote or by answering questions.
Here's what happened and why.

Speaker 12 Here is the truth from our perspective.

Speaker 20 I think right now there are a couple important things at play and we'd be foolish to not

Speaker 29 say that they are certainly considering their own important mergers and their affiliates potential mergers.

Speaker 20 But also, if I'm Bob Iger, if I'm ABC, if I'm Disney, I also work towards a solution that gets Jimmy Kimmel back on the air as quickly as possible so he can speak for himself on this matter because he's the one that is presently being silenced.

Speaker 20 So while I'm not possibly appeasing Dan Lebetard and many others that want stronger leadership, I think that this is a situation that calls for tact.

Speaker 22 And my objective is letting the person that is presently banned from taking the air get back to air and I game plan with my executives and I go about the right way of doing that.

Speaker 12 The part that we disagree on though is you're saying it's a time for tact and I'm saying it's not a time for silence. It's not a time for silence and you're saying, yeah, you got to be careful.

Speaker 12 And I'm like, no, he's already bullying everybody and taking their money. He's already doing that.
So you keep backpedaling and you keep going, let me be polite here and let me do tact.

Speaker 12 And you never say anything to us in your voice. Maybe, maybe you're right.
Maybe it's better to just have people argue about the silence

Speaker 12 and then Jimmy Kimmel becomes his own kind of symbol because it feels like he's a victim.

Speaker 20 Look, I've been in situations like this with this show for that company, even independent, where there are certain things that we're just not going to talk about.

Speaker 31 And they're tough decisions.

Speaker 34 And I don't know, I've certainly not experienced anything to this level.

Speaker 21 So I think it's very convenient for me to be a critic and say not enough is being done here.

Speaker 20 But I certainly know a tricky spot. I've been in a pickle before, Zaz.

Speaker 10 My movie theater is all pickles.

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Speaker 10 It's $2.99. It's a decent deal.

Speaker 21 I will say that while I enjoy the conversation,

Speaker 20 the only thing that you've done today on a Football Friday as it pertains to the college game day biggest game of the weekend is talk about a 20-year-old murder.

Speaker 29 And that is a failure on your part.

Speaker 12 Do you want me to talk about how the University of Miami has raised enough donations to build Vinnie Testa Verde and and Gino Toretta statues.

Speaker 20 I would tell you they better keep a spot open there for Mr.

Speaker 29 Beck.

Speaker 12 Oh, oh, how about Cam Ward?

Speaker 47 Cam Ward didn't get a Heisman.

Speaker 7 These are just the Heisman winners of the program.

Speaker 12 You want to go look at Gino Toretta's stats from his Heisman status?

Speaker 33 I know it's laughable.

Speaker 7 They played a different sport back then.

Speaker 38 Go ahead and get Zaz to play.

Speaker 10 I mean, because growing up, like Gino Toretta, I remember growing up and watching Gino's like, oh my god, these numbers are amazing.

Speaker 10 If I were to see those numbers now, I'm going to be, it's going to make me sad.

Speaker 12 Go ahead, go ahead, Mike. I think it was 19 touchdowns in the the season.
So you've got

Speaker 12 a different sport.

Speaker 12 I think it was. And he had pros everywhere.
Like, I believe, hold on a second. I believe the receivers on one of his teams, do I have this right? I might be conflating errors.

Speaker 12 I think it was Brian Blades, Brett Perriman, and Michael Irvin as one set of receivers in the huddle. I think that's the team that lost to Penn State.

Speaker 48 The one that hadn't had Tesa Verdi?

Speaker 7 I think Testa Verdi had Tesa Verde lost to Penn State.

Speaker 12 Okay, so yeah, I am conflating.

Speaker 29 Toretta had Lamar Thomas in Copeland.

Speaker 12 Okay, I am conflating eras. Okay, so both of them got a lot of help, but Vinnie Testeverdi's numbers were much better than Gino Toretta's.

Speaker 12 Give Zaz Gino Toretta's numbers so he can see what it is that won the Heisman that year.

Speaker 10 I mean, for the younger Keynes fan, Gino Toretta was so good, I remember. And I'm afraid now that

Speaker 10 you're about to make it.

Speaker 12 He wasn't as good as you remember, and neither was Ken Dorsey.

Speaker 32 A 56% completion percentage.

Speaker 20 I think Carson Beck presently is in the 80s.

Speaker 20 Just 60 yards over 3,000 passing yards.

Speaker 16 Just got over that line.

Speaker 20 19 touchdowns.

Speaker 22 Per season.

Speaker 32 19 touchdowns, seven interceptions.

Speaker 10 Only 19 touchdowns.

Speaker 32 That was his 1992 Heisman Trophy winning season.

Speaker 12 Mike, go ahead and look at that schedule, too, so that you can see.

Speaker 25 Oh, he went through Marshall Falk.

Speaker 12 Go ahead and look at who he was beating on those 19 touchdowns. So you see...

Speaker 7 A lot of Rutgers there, a lot of Temple there.

Speaker 14 Not a lot, but

Speaker 12 enough for you to wonder why there aren't some four and five touchdown games in there because there aren't any if you had only 19 in a season. 19.

Speaker 10 Who else were the Heisman candidates against him that year?

Speaker 33 So I'm glad that you asked. I actually have that available to me.

Speaker 20 Garrison Hurst, the F1, mentioned Marshall Falk.

Speaker 21 And believe it or not, I did not know this because I was just a youngin'.

Speaker 24 Desmond Howard did return to college football the year after he won the Heisman.

Speaker 22 Really?

Speaker 20 And he lost out to Gino Toretto.

Speaker 10 Man, I don't like what you just did.

Speaker 9 I don't like that.

Speaker 20 You just put it into perspective.

Speaker 28 They were playing a different sport.

Speaker 10 Honestly, if you didn't give me any of that information, you said, Zazzlo, Gina Toretta, a quarterback of your Kane's childhood, how many touchdowns do you think he threw in his Heisman year?

Speaker 10 I would have said 40.

Speaker 12 I sent Mike Ryan a text the other day because he was making fun of me for saying that Rex Grossman dragged those Chicago Bears to the Super Bowl that compared Troy Aikman's best season and Rex Grossman's best season.

Speaker 12 And they were basically the same because of how different the sport became where Troy Aikman, whatever you remember or think of Troy Aikman.

Speaker 10 I wanted to throw over 20 touchdowns once more.

Speaker 12 One time. This one season, he had a Rex Grossman season where he had 23 touchdowns.

Speaker 12 And that was the best season that Troy Aikman.

Speaker 7 Michael Irvin and Alvin Harper. Coverage varies by plan.
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Speaker 52 Don Lebatar.

Speaker 10 I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just

Speaker 14 take a picture. Stugats.

Speaker 10 I would die. I don't know where it is.

Speaker 52 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 20 I did appreciate the stroll down memory lane, but again, we've talked about something that happened 20 years ago and now 30 years ago when Miami has its best team in 20 years playing Saturday night against a hated rival, College Game Day, has decided this is the story they want to tell.

Speaker 20 And the most impactful transaction in South Florida sports history is going to be out there on that stage.

Speaker 10 I'm broadcasting from the stadium tomorrow.

Speaker 18 You're going to be broadcasting early.

Speaker 32 The gates open at 2:30.

Speaker 20 I don't think you're going to be setting up a scene there. The scene's going to be on campus where Matthew Kachuck and Pat McAfee will undoubtedly do something that goes viral.

Speaker 20 Because now that you don't have a mascot head, it's basically all about who's going to be the guest picker and can they make a moment.

Speaker 21 I trust Matthew Kachuck in this spot.

Speaker 12 I got tricked yesterday. You guys will find this funny

Speaker 12 because

Speaker 12 I'm watching the game on Amazon Prime and I was confused because

Speaker 12 it had gotten dark outside, and I was still watching Ryan Fitzpatrick sort of interact with Bill's audience and do a Ryan Fitzpatrick look-alike contest with Bill's fans.

Speaker 12 And I didn't realize that because I was streaming it, Amazon had taken me to the beginning of the broadcast when I was expecting.

Speaker 31 So, I didn't realize

Speaker 7 that.

Speaker 38 No, I wasn't paying attention to this. That's his game starting.

Speaker 38 That's what happened. It was dark outside.

Speaker 12 It was dark outside. And I'm like, why are they still doing wacky things with the fans when I feel like the game should have started by now? And it's just because I went to the broadcast and

Speaker 12 I hit play and it just took me to the beginning of the broadcast, even though they were already an hour into the broadcast.

Speaker 12 The game last night, Amazon is doing an amazing job with all of this.

Speaker 12 For all the criticism Al Michaels got for feeling or sounding bored in his 80s,

Speaker 12 it still sounds and looks huge. And I really am amazed that no one has much of any complaints on this transition to Amazon Prime and streaming.

Speaker 12 They are doing a broadcast that is giant and they're doing it without complaints or mistakes that I'm seeing.

Speaker 20 So murder 20 years ago, Team of 30 years ago, back to last night's game.

Speaker 12 I don't preview games.

Speaker 2 We still don't know why Zaz was sad that the Dolphins were tied and he's refusing to tell us because he forgot oh that's right yeah he forgot you'll find you okay you want go to the neurologist or something like i said it's been

Speaker 2 people lose their train of thought sometimes i need to go to neurology about you i'm worried about you i'm saying this as a friend listen you don't even all of this right here this

Speaker 10 this

Speaker 9 doesn't need your concern okay dan you don't preview games you weren't exactly previewing buffalo miami but you talk plenty miami entering that big game there's plenty state-of-the-program stuff that you can do with the university of Florida, which seems to have their own Waterloo situation, and the University of Miami that has about 80 blue chips in attendance for this and 11 of the top 20 wide receiver prospects, as things are clicking for Mario Cristobal in year four.

Speaker 12 Or I could talk about Indiana, Illinois, and I don't believe that you guys would want to do that because it's a preview. Name a player.

Speaker 25 Name a player in either of those two programs.

Speaker 45 Name a player.

Speaker 7 Name a player.

Speaker 7 That's right.

Speaker 24 We turn our attention to DJ Lagway and the disastrous Florida Gator program.

Speaker 32 Four of those five interceptions that DJ Lagway threw against LSU were with good protection.

Speaker 21 He seems broken.

Speaker 22 He seems heavy. He seems like he doesn't trust his body.

Speaker 43 He seems hurt.

Speaker 22 Billy Napier seems in over his head.

Speaker 37 And here come

Speaker 49 minor penalty. Two minutes murdering the show with their bare hands and a dismemberment kit in cold blood.

Speaker 2 In case anyone's wondering, Mike is very much still alive. Someone investigates the murdering of the show.

Speaker 2 Can't be like that story you were talking about before, where they just knocked on the door and thought that guy was dead. Mike's alive.
I saw him. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Everyone knows if you're looking for someone, you can't find them, they're dead.

Speaker 7 That's what that's crazy, right?

Speaker 38 It's a lot.

Speaker 10 Like, has anyone checked on Chris Cody? He's not here today.

Speaker 2 Must be.

Speaker 2 Damn. I wonder if anyone told his wife.

Speaker 12 Florida football is going to swallow Billy Napier right now. Like,

Speaker 12 did that line stay where it is that it started at 7.5?

Speaker 10 It's 9.5 right now.

Speaker 12 So, a lot of people thought that the Bills-Dolphins line was going to go up above 12.5, and the money went the other way because the NFL is going to NFL, and then all of a sudden, the line at the start of the game became 11.5

Speaker 10 points. Someone said that was free money last night.

Speaker 7 I don't know who.

Speaker 12 Yes, you were wrong about that.

Speaker 12 You also have said, though, that Miami over the Gators is free money, and that went from 7.5 to nine and a half well so I would probably be right about that then the the money is telling us that it's it seems weird right so you tell me what you made Zaslow of as a college football expert what did you make of the Florida LSU game where Florida's defense is good Florida's defense is obviously

Speaker 12 obviously good very good Florida's defense you know couldn't overcome five turnovers but if you're on the road at night at LSU tough place to play that but that game shouldn't be close if your quarterback like if you would I don't know how good LSU is.

Speaker 10 I really don't. Because I don't know how.
I'm doing some transitive theory here, but I don't know how good Clemson is. And LSU barely got past a Clemson team that, of course, lost this past week.

Speaker 10 And the week before that barely got by Troy. So I don't know how good LSU is.
I feel like they should have been much. They should have won that game by more than the 10 points.

Speaker 10 Man, I think the Kanes are going to take it to him tomorrow night. I think it's going to be really ugly for DJ Lagway.
He might stink. I don't know.
He might stink.

Speaker 10 I think it's going to be ugly for Lagway. I think it's going to be ugly for the Gators.
I think tomorrow's going to be a lot of fun for the Kanes fan.

Speaker 12 You've been mentioning that, and yet I am confused by the way that Florida was able to, whether LSU is good or not, five turnovers on the road, that is not something that should result in the opposing team only scoring 20 points, but your quarterback throwing five interceptions, it's not just five interceptions, because when the hell do you see that anymore?

Speaker 12 The only guy who does that in the pros is Trey Lance. I guess Jared Goff did it once, but it doesn't happen very often that you see five interceptions, but it wasn't just five interceptions.

Speaker 12 It was five interceptions where you weren't asking LSU to make a play. Those were five super easy interceptions because he was making very bad decisions with fluttering butterfly balls.

Speaker 10 Yep, throwing off of his back foot too.

Speaker 10 And, you know, we're talking double and triple coverage. Hell, at the end of the first half, I think the game was still tied late in the first half.

Speaker 10 And it was literally literally just don't turn the ball over here. And he threw an interception at the end of the first half, which I think LSU then capitalized the field goal on.

Speaker 10 Just really terrible decisions. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Are you excited about something more than that game this weekend?

Speaker 10 Well, WrestlePalooza tomorrow night. Come on now, Mike.
You know what I'm talking about. But no, Gators and Kanes I'm most excited about.

Speaker 10 I think just all day it's going to be, I'm going to be there all day. I might have to go to sleep a little bit early tonight, Dan, because I want to make sure I have my energy tomorrow.

Speaker 10 Because I'm broadcasting 10 a.m. to 1 p.m.
tomorrow right there, Fan Zone at Hard Rock Stadium. Now, granted, the gates are not going to be open.

Speaker 2 Yeah, how can you call it a fan zone with no fans?

Speaker 10 Yeah, granted, I can't control what time my show is on ESPN radio and what time the game is, all right? But we're going to be broadcasting.

Speaker 10 Probably no one inside the stadium grounds because they don't open until after we get done. But we do a live digital show before the game.
There'll be a lot of people for that.

Speaker 10 So I hope people come and see us. We're going to be at FanZone.
Big Airstream studio. You'll be able to see us.
I'm very much looking forward to it.

Speaker 12 But can they get to you?

Speaker 12 It sounds like Fan Zone. When the gates open.

Speaker 12 But are there going to be people there at the time that you were there?

Speaker 7 For the 6 o'clock show. Yeah.

Speaker 10 For the digital show. That's where you could see this face, all right? I'm going to be on camera.

Speaker 7 I love that put him.

Speaker 10 Thanks, man. I appreciate it.

Speaker 20 You got a good puss.

Speaker 53 There's a good puss right here.

Speaker 10 Yes, I'll be on camera for that. People will all be around me.
We're going to do man on the street stuff, too, walking around throughout the day, also.

Speaker 15 You bet you're going to be gathering while no one is there in the parking.

Speaker 10 No, no, people are people are gonna get in when they get in, and we're gonna do stuff, all right?

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Speaker 24 Game time.

Speaker 12 You mentioned WrestlePalooza. Aren't there issues going on with how fans are going to get this?

Speaker 10 Yes, there are.

Speaker 12 And what's going to happen here? Do we know? Is there going to be something that gets decided?

Speaker 45 It's not going to be fixed before WrestlePalooza.

Speaker 10 I mean, it would appear the people, is it YouTube TV?

Speaker 44 YouTube TV, I think Xfinity.

Speaker 9 Yeah, a couple of them.

Speaker 32 I have both of those things, so I'm presently shut up, but it's all right.

Speaker 40 I'll be at the game of the week.

Speaker 10 So someone like Mike, who isn't getting access to the new ESPN digital app, which has WrestlePalooza tomorrow night, you then have to pay $30

Speaker 10 for the month to watch WrestlePaloo. Like, you have to buy the app on its own.
So, those people,

Speaker 10 yeah, it's not ideal for those people.

Speaker 21 And this just seems to be a continuing trend where TKO, who has assumed ownership from Vince McMahon and control,

Speaker 18 it hasn't been fun for fans.

Speaker 20 They just awarded Saudi Arabia WrestleMania 42.

Speaker 25 I agree with that.

Speaker 20 After back-to-back, I don't know if you've seen what's going on with the Las Vegas economy, not exactly buzzing right now.

Speaker 21 They ripped away a WrestleMania from New Orleans and got more money and maximized the dollars and everything, including comments from Mark Shapiro, is geared towards, yeah, we're going to make you pay more for tickets.

Speaker 31 It doesn't seem super fancy.

Speaker 10 Who would have known that Vince McMahon was looking out for the family?

Speaker 18 He would run towns and house shows and towns knowing that it would lose money to keep fan interest alive.

Speaker 33 This is a big mistake, and it's going to come back to haunt them.

Speaker 42 I really do think, especially now when there's an alternative with money.

Speaker 1 Big mistake.

Speaker 12 Tell you who loves money, dude. It's a bit flabbergasting.
Everybody loves money. It's a bit flabbergasting to watch the customer bleeped again and again in sports.

Speaker 42 Hey, everyone, it's Mike Ryan.

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Speaker 5 Listening on your way to work right now, wondering whether or not today is the day to tell your boss what you really think of the new reports he needs filled out every week.

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