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Zaz, you really are a voice of the fan during the game.

Like, you just complain about the dolphins on the internet in the way that I feel like if the dolphin fan what had one voice it would sound a bit like you I don't enjoy that though like I don't I don't like being that guy I'm not like that during panther games I'm not like that during heat games I don't like what the dolphins do to me well what's happening there you haven't been like that during heat games you care about the heat and the panthers more than you care about the dolphins I do I do but I'm more inclined to take I'm I'm a pretty positive dude.

Like, I'm more inclined to take the positive angle when it comes to the Heat and the Panthers. So I don't like that the Dolphins do this to me and make me feel this way.

I don't like sitting here and telling you Tua sucks. You know, like,

that doesn't bring me any kind of joy. I don't like being that guy.
But you are that guy. I am that guy.
And you're not accountable about it. You blame the Dolphins for making you this person.

Should I blame myself for making me this person?

I mean, you're reasonable and you have perspective about the Panthers and the Heat, even though you called Paul Maurice the murderer murderer of fun when he got here. Yeah, but I, well,

did he not murder our fun for most of that season? I was right until I was wrong. Can we admit that? That is...

You can put that on basically any sports radio host tombstone.

I mean, parents murder fun when they're like, you got to eat vegetables. That's right.
Even though it's good for you, that's what Paul Maurice did. He did what was best for the situation.

And in the end, there was fun. But on the way up, there was no fun.
Yeah, it was growing pains. Yeah.
I didn't know it at the time,

but he was right.

And I got no problem admitting that. How great is that? To be able to admit this.
To be able to say, I was wrong about something. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong.
I love that about you.

Especially. Thank you.
I love that about me too, actually.

I've evolved.

The thing about what you're saying, though, is you can admit you're wrong when you're the two-time defending Stanley Cup champion. That's a pretty high bar to get you to admit that you're wrong.

And you're wrong in a way that's so spectacular that you put the butt right in the middle of rebuttal.

How crazy. If you would have

talked to me as I was lying sprawled on the grass outside of the former Orange Bowl, presently Marlins Park after Butch Davis and FIU defeat Jaron Williams, who let's just say was a little off

for reasons that I know but won't talk about. Oh.

If you would have told me several years after that that Miami would be hosting college game day and a Florida Panther would be the game day picker, I would have said there's no way we can actually climb that mountain.

It's too high for both the Miami Hurricanes and hockey. I would say it'd be more likely that the Florida Panthers were playing in Hamilton.
I know no one's going to agree with this.

Kind of a lame game day picker. Get the hell out of here.
That's my lame game day.

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Matthew Kachuck is a bad pick?

That show has gone down to the standard of Stugatz has done the guest picking. You're going to say Kachuk is a bad pick? That's close to the same level, honestly.
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The fatal flaw in this Miami Dolphins team and organization is that that is the best game that team can play.

That is the most careful,

the best on third and fourth down that that team can be. They are trying to work around their limits and they lose by 10 points against the Bills.

And frankly, I've got to be honest, I thought I was watching religious miracles every time the defense made a stop in the second half because I thought the whole game was going to go the way that the first half went where James Cook is just running for nine yards every time they hand him the football.

They almost had three straight forced punts. I was stunned that they got the stops.
I was stunned that they were in the game. You cannot blame that game on McDaniel.

Many people will blame it on Zach Seeler or Tua. Those are the two people they're going to blame.
Seemed like McDaniel blamed Tua.

I'm not going to blame Zach Seeler for a couple of different reasons, okay? I thought the only way they could win that game is if they got turnovers or special teams,

special teams explosion plays. And Zach Seeler was trying to make a play as somebody who you actually trust on the Dolphins, even though this was an amazing stat going into the game.

The Dolphins were the only team in the league going into that game that had not had a single pressure from an interior defensive lineman.

Not one in the first two games of the season against offenses that weren't the one that they faced last night.

I want to give you guys a series of stats, though, and ask you which one you think is the most interesting or wish to to talk about okay in one score games with five minutes left Tua has seven touchdowns seven interceptions and a quarterback rating a little bit over 70.

The Dolphins have now lost 14 of 17 and 8 in a row against teams with a winning record. Last night Tua threw as many passes behind the line of scrimmage as he did in front of the line of scrimmage.

And that was both quarterbacks last night. Because you want to guess this? Take a guess at what the average air yards

per completion was last night for both quarterbacks both quarterbacks combined take a guess average air yards every football throw definitely pathetic

something low i don't think you know how pathetic guess as low as you want to guess i don't think i think you're going to get it wrong even as i'm telling you guess on the extreme low definitely pathetic so i'm going to go

Four yards. 1.4 yards per completion.
So pathetic. Late in the third or fourth, two was at negative five.
That's bad.

So, I mean, but Tyreek also had a ball hit both of his hands, like 40 yards down the field that he just dropped. Yeah.
I'm worried about Tyreek Hill. You need a play there.

I'm worried about the Dolphin offense for a number of different reasons, okay? Because you mentioned the Tyreek Hill play. There were two things said last night during the game that made me laugh.

I was watching that game alone. I rarely laugh.
You have any Dolphin friends? Yeah.

I have dolphin friends, but I wanted to watch that game alone. Shall Valerie get out of the room? Valerie went to a concert at the Hard Rock last night for her brother's birthday.
Who was it?

The band, what is it?

Cage and the Elephant? Cage the Elephant. Cage and the Elephant.

I don't know the name of the band. I came close.
Mike is laughing at me for not knowing Cage the Elephant. No, he's laughing at me because I actually know that band.
Yeah, that's impressive.

Cage and the Elephant sounds like something a black market arms dealer would find himself in that situation. It sounds like a Nicolas Nicolas Cage movie, too.

So I want to, though, because you're right. Hill dropped, it was a 50-yard pass, and

it was one of the few thrown down the field.

And it would have changed that stat I just gave you because they made Josh Allen into something last night that Patrick Mahomes has become, which is, oh, you're going to take away my entertainment, too.

They're going to score 31 points, but it's not going to be fun to watch them score the 31 points. But two stats they gave.
Al Michaels said

Hill, Tyreek Hill, having a big game, and then gave the stats five catches for 46 yards, which used to be a catch for him back in the glory days of the Dolphins

two years ago. But this was the funniest stat.
The funniest stat was when he says, And Tua gets to 100 yards on the night.

He's been very solid tonight, very good with his decision-making on his 26th attempt of the evening. This was deep in the fourth quarter when Tua got to 100 yards.

The Dolphins Dolphins played a game that was close that surprised us.

But I really did think the beginning of the game was how the whole game was going to go, where Mike McDaniel was going to get fired in the third quarter because they just kept handing the ball to James Cook.

And he got a first, he put him in second and one every time he carried the football. It was chunk yards every play.
The Dolphins were leading at the beginning of the game. It was 7-0.

They went right down the field. I know, but the Bills hadn't touched the football yet.
And I believe that the thing that's going to nuke this entire Dolphins season isn't the offense.

I believe it's going to be the defense. I don't believe they're going to be able.
The second half is the first time they've stopped anybody all season.

They do historically play the Bills type under Mike McDaniel. They just never beat the Bills, and that was apparent yesterday.
Mike McDaniel initially blamed Tua for the interception.

Quarterback has to take the responsibility there, but we all have to be better. Kind of softened it and knew what he was saying as it was happening.

It's a couple of weeks in a row that he's pulled that move. Yeah, there's a couple encouraging things for Tua.
We said when you made the point, like this guy doesn't make things happen.

There were a couple of instances there where he made things happen with his legs, rolled out, found Tyreek Hill.

So that was encouraging, but just a backbreaking interception with your season on the line. You just can't do that.
I don't think this guy's good. It's six years in.

I think I'm ready to make a judgment call. And I also have to take into account the head injuries, the hip injury.
I just don't think that this is a franchise quarterback.

That's the part I have a problem with, is what you said there. And Greg said that at the beginning of the week as well when we're talking about there were encouraging signs from Tua.
He's in year six.

Like, what are we talking about? Like, we're still growing. This was encouraging that he did.
He's in year six. What are we talking about? I think it's actually been a discouraging season for Tua.

I don't think this looks like the same guy that they gave the contract to. And even then, there were questions as to whether or not he was deserving of that contract and was a franchise quarterback.

He seems to have regressed. And maybe it's Tua.
Maybe it's Tyreek Hill, maybe it's the play calling. I don't know.
But even when he, that pass that Tyreek Hill dropped, I hit him in both hands.

He was double covered. And Tua just heaved that up there, hoping that something miraculous would happen.

With Tyreek and Tua, you don't see Tyreek getting behind the cornerbacks or the safeties anymore, and he just has to lob it over their heads.

Every long pass he's had to Tyreek has either been underthrown or the defenders are right there with Tyreek. The one long completion this year was severely underthrown.

Yeah, it's just the two of them are not what they were clearly two years ago when this offense was clicking on all cylinders.

They were on the game tying touchdown at the end of the game where he threw the ball before Tyreek Hill made his break.

The play you're talking about, the 50-yard play, you need Tyreek Hill to make that play because you're paying him to be neighbors.

Like whether you're covered or not, if you're the only one touching the ball, whether you're double covered or not, you were in position to make that play and it went through your hands.

Easy for me to say.

I understand that that's, you know, it's not the easiest catch, catch, but when you look at Tyreek Hill and what you're expecting from him and Tua, your highest paid players have to make the game-winning plays.

And you guys don't disagree with the assessment, do you? That's the best that this Dolphins team, that's the best that it can play.

And when you say there's something wrong with Tua, maybe there is, okay, but I thought Waddell was a number one receiver or on his way to becoming a number one receiver a couple of years ago.

I thought that Tyreek Hill and Waddle, those statistical games that they had for the game, that was a quarter a couple of years ago.

What they did for the game was one quarter of Dolphin football a couple of years ago.

So, when we talk about Tua, you guys disagree when I say, hey, that's the best they can be on third and fourth down.

If you think you're going to get 16-play drives to keep Josh Allen off the field, like that was a well-coached football game last night.

And I want to talk again about the Zach Seeler play because I understand it's very easy,

very easy to criticize the result there.

And

you can't have that as the result. It's fourth and seven.
You can't have a roughing the kicker.

Zach Seeler blew up the long snapper, just exploded through the long snapper and thought he was going to be able to make a play on a block punt.

And people forget, because they're outraged by the stupidity or what they think is the stupidity of trying your very best to make a hustle play, that the Bills down that ball at the one-yard line.

You felt real good about Tua going down the field from his own end zone there.

You like that better than they scored a touchdown, and now you're trailing.

Like, granted, it's not the ideal starting spot, but yeah, you'd take that over giving up a touchdown and starting at the 20.

Agreed, but I'm not going to criticize one of their best and most solid players

for blowing up the long-term. It's a bullshit call, honestly.
Like, he did not go with intent. He didn't wrap him and drive him to the ground.
He was just big. Like, the kicker fell on him.

He touched his foot a little bit, and then he fell on him. It was a little flop situation.
Like, then you get into the whole thing, which is, is this kicker interference? Is this roughing the kicker?

If it was called one, then it'd still be fourth down because they wouldn't have gotten enough yards. And then it's because it's the other, it's an automatic first down.
Like, it's a ticky-tacky call.

I mean, look, the Dolphins shouldn't have been in that game anyways. They were favored, or they were going to lose by 12 and a half points is what the line was.

So the fact that they were that close, it was a tie game when that call happened. It did swing the momentum of the game.

They did get the ball back and then Tua threw an interception, which is what cost them the game, but it shouldn't have come down to that.

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You guys mentioned the interception, and I know, I know

that it,

when it happened, we're all like, oh my God, how could you do that? How could you do that?

How did you not do it? Who didn't see that coming? Well,

that throw, I know that people expected the worst because of what they've seen late in games from the Dolphins.

But throwing a ball straight to a linebacker you didn't see four yards down the field, the reason that happened is because the offensive lineman, the center, just whiffed on the block.

And so that's pressure right up the middle. He was getting rid of the ball in two seconds because he had to.
And that's how the mistake got made.

I know we're going to blame Tua on that, but there aren't a lot of quarterbacks who are going to have much of a chance.

If they can't be mobile, if they can't run away from pressure, untouch pressure right up the middle, not a lot of quarterbacks. are going to make a good throw there.

So Tua yesterday, when I checked it, which was like in the third quarter, because I've been curious about this all season long.

Tua, the past couple seasons, has had the fastest time between when he receives the ball and he throws the ball.

And those quick decisions has been kind of the difference and why things are moving so fast because that's how they get all the yards, right?

It seems as though he's had more time to throw the ball this season and it has had a negative effect because then he starts looking at different options.

It could be the number one option is covered or whatever. But it seems like the more time Tua has, the worse the results have been.

And yesterday he had the ball longer than Josh Allen did at the beginning, or at least through the third quarter. He had it like three seconds before he was making the passes.

So then he starts looking around, and then that's when you can go back to week one after the Steelers game, where they were saying, you know what?

If you take away his first look, he panics and he starts making bad decisions.

That could be what's going on, he's not snapping it out right away, which the past couple seasons he's been the fastest to get the ball and pass it.

This is what I was talking about, I think, yesterday, where he's not capable of making the special plays, making the improvisational plays. And more to your point there,

if everything is not put on the table for him to perfection, where, hey, this is your first option. This is where we'd really like you to go.

And if it's not there, all right, you go through your progressions. He doesn't seem to be good at that part.

If everything is not laid out in front of him right away and then he has to make the extra decisions, he doesn't seem to be good at it. I don't think that's fair criticism off of last night.

No, no, I'm not looking at it just in the context of the game.

I know, but what happened last night in the fourth quarter he put you in a position to win the game because that 16 play drive had those plays in it and that's as good as that offense can be they can't do it in one or two plays anymore it's got to be 16.

if he's going to throw as many passes behind the line of scrimmage as ahead of the line of scrimmage how did we get there that was crazy how did we get there

passes to the flats and how poor the execution was i thought in gold was a good player i mean he can't win a one-on-one blocking assignment

If he did, that play that you're talking about, which is throwing it to A-chan seven yards behind the line of scrimmage, if Ingold had made a block there, that's a 30-yard play.

It happened a couple of times where, you know, there's one or two guys and you either need a combination of A-chan making a play and Ingold making a block or just Ingold making a block or A-chan making a play.

It just was stifled pretty much all game long with the exception of a 15-yard swing route. Like, it was just, it was bad.
It was painful to watch. It was painful to watch.

It was screen after screen after screen. I just don't understand.
You pay the quarterback. He's getting $55 million a year.
And like, that's the offense? How did we get here?

I'm not seeing what they're seeing from. Right.
It's hard because we're watching on TV and you can't see down.

Alan Kirker is saying that there's nothing available in the middle of the field. But this is where your high-priced quarterback makes the plays with his feet.
And there were a couple of signs here.

But then you look across the other sideline and you realize, well, when there is nothing, because both quarterbacks were dealing with this, as Dan pointed out, you know, Josh Allen is going to make the plays consistently.

And for Tua, it seems like an outlier. And, and after, like, let's just use as an example, after the Sealer penalty, tie game, mid-fourth quarter, Josh Allen doesn't throw the interception.

And if we want to, like, you could blame Seeler, it was a huge penalty. We could talk about whatever we want there.
But I think it's fair criticism.

Can the quarterback who's paid $200 million

make a game-winning drive in a big spot for once. We could say that the center didn't do what he was supposed to do on that play and it led to the interception and the linebacker picked it off.

Like, okay, but how about every other game that he can't seem to lead a game-winning drive against a good team? Danny started the show giving up the numbers where the Dolphins never beat good teams.

It's fair criticism to say, hey, there are all these other things that are going on wrong this game, but we need you to win us the game. When is that going to happen?

The weird thing is, is on that last drive where he threw the interception, it wasn't as many of the behind-the-line scrimmage screen passes.

Like, they were actually trying to move the ball down the field, six, seven-yard passes, but it wasn't that screen pass that wasn't effective.

There was also a bunch of like three and outs that happened where it was just three straight passing yards, three straight screen passes, or one like third and ten.

And let me try to throw it 12 yards here. Where when they were bringing in, um, when they were bringing in Ollie Gordon, they were trying to run the ball.

They were having more success, I think, than they thought they were going to have. And that's where the drives were starting, where they were involving the run game.

I don't know why they keep doing the screen passes every single time.

A long time ago, Jimmy Johnson, Super Bowl Cowboys, was asked,

why don't you guys do more screen passes with Emmett Smith and stuff in your offensive line? And he stared at the reporter and just said, we're not good at it. So that's your explanation.
Like,

they're not playing that way for any other reason But that they're trying to protect their flaws and be safe and be careful. But the last drive, they were effective not doing that.

Like, they've become too reliant on let's throw it to A-chan and hope he makes a 40-yard play out of a negative five-yard pass. I agree.
The opposite is happening. McDaniel on the offense, clearly.

And from what we've seen from A-chan, good receiving back, like, they are supposed to be good at it. Buffalo was all over it.

And like Xavian Howard said, when you take away the first option, what do you got? Munson. It also screws them on.
It's first and 10. You try the first play of the drive to do a screen pass.

There's a blown coverage, and now it's second and 17.

And now it's an uphill battle. And how do you get out of that? Well, they did get out of it.
They had a second and third and 17.

A couple times they got out of it, but there was other three and outs where they couldn't get out of it. I like this team, and I sound pissy.

I'm going to say again that I believe that that's the best this Dolphins team can play, and losing to the Bills that way is no shame. Listen to some of these stats, okay?

The Bills threw three games this season. 3-0 record, 100-plus points scored, zero turnovers, fewer than 15 penalties, more than 150 rushing yards a game, and more than 250 net passing yards a game.

Never in NFL history has any team ever done that over a three-game span. Never.
It's never happened before. You actually neutralize the MVP of the league.
The idea that I'm in here today and...

three passing touchdowns. I mean, come on.

Let's be honest. All right, Billy.
They're looking forward to 10 days off. All right, Billy.
They're walking through that one.

I got a text during the game from the said, Josh Allen just looks bored. He's got a broken nose, wearing a visor for the first time.

How many flip passes did he try? Oh, my God, that guy. Josh was literally joshing out there.

Josh Allen, regular season against the Dolphins, 13-2, 8-0 at home, 45 total touchdowns, 8 interceptions. But I gave you the stat earlier, and I'm just stunned by it.

Next-gen stats: Josh Allen and Tua combined to average 1.5 air yards per completion, lowest mark in a game since 2016. So your eyes aren't deceiving you.

That's the most boring offensive game throwing the football down the field in 10 years. It was so boring.
Yeah, but like, it was by design, I think, by the Bills.

You think the Bills are, what, they're scared of the Dolphins secondary?

You think if Josh Allen got the ball down three from his 20-yard line, he wasn't going to be airing out downfield, cutting up the Dolphins. Secondary did make plays, I will say.

You think it was by design? Yeah, that throw to Kincaid. It was a crazy throw.
Kincaid should have had three touchdowns. 100% play.
Tony's parlay from God hit. I know.
I woke up to that.

That was great. You played it? Of course.
When you get a parlay from God, you play it. Allen attempted only one pass over 10 yards in the air.
Like, that's not how he plays.

You think that wasn't designed for him to not make a pass? It was that Kincaid pass? That That was the only attempt?

He only had

10 air yards. Like I said, Tua completed as many passes behind the line of scrimmage as passed it, but Allen attempted only one pass over 10 air yards.
That's nuts.

Is it not possible that Josh Allen got to the building at the beginning of the week and said, guys, we're playing the Dolphins. Like, what's the least amount of work on that?

Yeah, let's just work on this. My nose is jacked up.
Like, let's make this an easy week. Guys,

it was tied with seven minutes left in the fourth quarter.

Come on.

They were in control.

And they were playing to a bunch of people.

This was the Bills' plan to get Zach Seeler on a fourth and seven to rough their punter. That was the plan? I look.
And Punter seemed to flop on that. I think maybe it was a game.
In a tie game.

In a tie game.

Okay, you think that this game would have ended differently?

You think that there was a doubt? You think that.

Was there a moment in the game where you said to yourself, I think the Dolphins are going to be a good one? Oh, man. Josh Allen shook with his 134 QBR here.

What Dan's describing describing is quite literally what happened, which is

the Bills sleptwalk through that game and they pulled out a double-digit. And guess what? When it was time to win the game, their quarterback won them the game.

Let me find Shakir. Trusty.
And when the Dolphins needed their quarterback to try and win the game, he doesn't see a linebacker and throws it out. How much longer are we going to talk about this team?

This is it. The season's over.
Yes, they're 0-3. I don't know.
They're 0-3. I know it's an expanded NFL schedule, and stats are, we're still collecting data on what it means to be 0-3.

Next two weeks of get back games, man. Next four.
Post the Jets.

At the Panthers. Chargers.
That's Monday night football. That's a little tricky.
Okay. Then the Browns at the Browns.

They can go on. Falcons, we're still not sure here.
Ravens is where things get diced. Let's say you get here one, two, three.
You rack off here four straight wins.

You have a winning record at the Falcons.

There was a bit of news in that Stephen Ross likes Mike McDaniel, doesn't want to fire him. That's pretty obvious.
And he said,

like, reportedly, the only way he'd consider firing mike mcdaniels if the fans stop showing up to the building or the team looks like they check out team didn't look checked out they they put forth their one of their best efforts dan says that's about as good as they can possibly look so it seems as though mike mcdaniel is safe so now we turn our attention to tyree kill uh greer and perhaps to a uh i had someone float this by me and i'm asking you guys your thoughts on this because we've been sitting on it for a couple of days where are we on the brian floors lawsuit do we know i saw a couple of things yesterday in headlines.

That was the second headline that caught my attention yesterday because he says his attorney is saying that they're stalling, that the league is stalling on the lawsuit.

But the other headline I saw that I don't know if Mike can help me explain some of this.

Perhaps before the end of the show, someone can explain this headline to me, but it was a stunner to see right next to the Flores story.

Witness in long-delayed University of Miami murder case is not dead was the headline. Is not dead.
ESPN reported. This is how we're going to decide to break down the Gators canes?

Yes, it was a tragic thing. We can dig into the Gators

sordid history when it comes to murder. I'm just saying, Roy's look, Roy, Roy has the proper look on his face with what is that story? Witness in long delayed University of Miami murder case

is not dead.

Just to close the loop on the Brian Flores question for a second. the reason I asked that is because that lawsuit has implications of racial discrimination.
And Stephen Ross is named in this lawsuit.

And while you're implicated in a lawsuit involving racial discrimination, is it easy to fire your black GM and biracial head coach?

while claiming that you are not involved in discrimination. What the hell? Someone threw that at me, and I said,

dicey situation. This is out of here.

I do like this as a topic for someone else i had forgotten that mike mcdaniel was biracial until you mentioned that i we talked about it the first week he was hired and then never mentioned it's hard that next two fires also you know black say there's not a pattern there on fox one you can stream your favorite live sports so you're there for the biggest moments as they happen for me i cannot deal with spoilers so i need to see it live especially on college football saturdays and nfl sundays with fox one you get it all NASCAR, the MLB postseason, edge of your seat plays, jaw-dropping moments, and that rush like you're right there in the action.

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Don Lebatard. We didn't get to your guys' against the spread.
You're right. You're right.
You're right. I don't have an against the spread

because I wasn't prepared for this segment. You had any in in your life.
You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting. Stugats.

Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business.
This is the Don Lebatard show with the Stugats.

Which of these stats that I gave you guys from all of them, because I'm going to give you another one here.

Tua is now 2-14 away from home against winning teams, which is the second worst mark for any quarterback in the last decade. I gave you a whole bunch of bad stats.

Is there one among all of them that you guys found most interesting? Because all of them are damning. Yeah, the never-beating good teams.
The never-beating good teams.

Winning teams are not something that they can beat. They've lost 14 of their last 17 and 8 in a row

against teams with a winning record. They never beat teams over 500.

The last time they felt good was when they all snowed us with that six touchdown performance to come back against the Ravens where they were throwing the ball down the field.

Can I ask you guys again, though, as we talk about Tua, like waddle skating, Hill's not going going to skate, but waddle skating, that is a very high pick.

Like that was picked to make sure you get pieces to help the piece that you have, right? Jacksonville's tried to load up trying to help Trevor Lawrence to cover Trevor Lawrence's flaws.

You got two top picks, first-round picks at wide receiver that way.

That's supposed to look like what the Eagles look like in their prime when they've got two number ones. Like you take a receiver in the top 10, he's got to be a number one.

Like he's got to feel and play like a number one. And Waddle hasn't for a long time.
Like you forget about Waddle for long stretches of time during those football games.

But Waddle plays, like we've seen Waddle look like a number one wide receiver and Waddle, and Hill too for that matter, but Waddle, like he...

He's dependent on other things happening in order for him to produce. He is skating a bit, though.
He did give it a go, and he scored a touchdown. He is playing hurt.
He's been hurt.

He's always hurt, man. The wind blows, and that guy's on the sideline for like three places.
Part of the damage. He's so frustrating.

He could be so good, but like everything seems to keep him off the field for some reason. He doesn't have good size for the sport.
That's absolutely so.

In terms of frame, it doesn't look like he can take a. He's bigger than Tyreek Hill, who stays out there.
I mean, but Tyreek Hill's built different.

The three key pieces that they have on offense, though, are all undersized to Hill and Waddell. Like, this is part of why it is they get soft.
None of them are A.J. Brown.
None of them look.

I don't think they're good size. I like.
I think they found one in Gordon.

I found myself getting mad throughout the game that the game was close. Not because I sat here and

opened. Because you wanted to be right.
We get it. No, I don't.
Yeah, we get it. You want it to be.
You'd rather you don't want to. You don't know what's going on in my mind.

You want it to be right at the detriment of your city. You don't know what thoughts are happening here.
The thoughts in your heart?

Yeah, you know what? I do have thoughts in my heart.

We established in the Shadow Show, he likes admitting when he's wrong, too. Yeah, I know.
I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. You think you don't know me.
All right. You'll know me.
Okay.

Okay.

Go on.

What was your point, sir?

Go on. Did you forget? Yeah.
Okay.

As I was saying,

lost my training.

Hey, he does that. He does that.
Tried to stall a little bit there. I noticed.

It didn't come back. He's very good at it.
It is what he does.

You were upset that your team was keeping the game close. Yes.
Now I have to do my job and your brain's job.

Yeah, he does know what's going on in your head and he keeps track of it, unlike you. That's a good job out of you, Billy.

Do you want to.

So you're sad your team was keeping it close. No, it's been built up too much.
I'm abandoning the thoughts.

No, we really want the idea. It's been built up too much.
Give it to us. Jeez.

Please. Come on.

We want the thought in your heart. Come on.
Can I move on?

I'm begging to move on.

Zad's Lowell. Talk about those dead witnesses.
Yeah, let's go there. I really want to.
I got something on this. He's not dead.
The dead guy is not dead. No, he's not dead.
It's not a dead witness.

You don't know the facts that are in my heart. Shame.

Get the facts that are. Undead witnesses.
Zombie witness. Shame on you.
We thought he was dead, and he's not dead. Shame on you.
Miracle. What do you mean, shame on me? Shame on you.

You got College Game Day in town. You got Fowler and Herbie on the cookie.
The Chuck's going to be the one that's going to be the one that's going to be. The Chuck's going to be the big picker.

The George is going to be electric. A lot of people are upset about this.
A lot of people that don't follow hockey, I guess. Why? Why? I don't know.

Like, I mean, you got the most hated player in the league, but beloved.

I'm the best American hockey player. I am not lying when I say in this market.
And think who's come to this market in terms of immediate impact on the playing surface.

Matthew Kachuk is tied with LeBron James.

And it wasn't exactly like LeBron turned the fortunes of a franchise around. He made the sport matter.

So you could argue the most impactful athlete in terms of acquisition in the history of this market

is Matthew Kachuck. It's the best trade in South Florida history.
Ooh, it's definitely Panthers' best trade overall. Of course, it has to be.

Like the worst one is Miguel Cabrera and the best one has to be Kachuk. What about Shaq?

I mean, it was a good one, but Shaq was the second most important player on that championship. Shaq didn't make it to the finals his first year.

Matthew Kachuck made it to the finals his first year and lost like LeBron. Okay.
And then went back to back like LeBron. It's LeBron and Matthew Kachuck in terms of immediate impact.

And when you consider the franchise's history and inability to get over the hump, it's Matthew Ka-Chuck when you apply that context. Technically in the books, that LeBron decision was a trade.

Nah, we all know that's not a trade. Ended up being a bad trade because he didn't end up.
Yes,

this is a take. Acquiring LeBron was a bad trade because you actually gave up assets and he didn't extend.
They were still paying off those assets while he played for Cleveland. Right.

He helped rebuild the Cleveland Cavs. You can't say that was a bad trade.
Bad trade. You can't say it was a bad trade.
Anytime you're still paying off a trade when the player's not with you more.

It's bad trade. Everybody knows that.
It also didn't live up to expectations, if we're going to be honest. No,

they didn't win not four, not five, not six, not seven. Bust of an experiment, really.
Really, it is. And let's not pretend like Chris Bosch and Dwayne Wade in their prime won in a 1-1.

You go wherever you want, LeBron. Go to Chicago.
Go to the Knicks. You think you're beating Chris Bosch, Dwayne Wade, and whatever Pat Riley uses to build out the rest of that roster?

Let me tell you, don't forget greatest free agent signing, Lua Dang. Luol Dang? Lua Dang.
Bosh and Wade get one. I don't know.
Bosh and Wade get one. People forget how freaking good Dwayne Wade is.

You know about Goan Dragic?

What was his deal? He was always just hanging around, milling about at the arena, making it seem like he wanted to play here.

And every chance he got to come back, he's like, nah, I'll go somewhere else instead. What was his deal? You know about Zoron Dragic? I'm sorry that this is a delayed penalty.

Minor penalty, two minutes. dumpster juice takes, takes.

Mike, out.

You can't say LeBron James was a bad trade. You can't say that.
And then follow it up with, you know, personally in your heart that Chris Bosch and Dwayne Wade would have certainly won a title.

Get out of here. How do you know in your heart they wouldn't?

I get no points for my amazing Matthew Kachuk take that no one else has. No points.

You get out of here because it's a dumpster job. Great talking, Gators, Keynes.

Well, if you wanted to talk, a witness in a long-delayed university of miami murder case is not dead if you wanted to talk about that i don't understand uh how it is that if you read that headline you don't keep reading like that headline

espn reporters knocked on a dude's door the police uh when they were when they were investigating brian patta's murder thought that one of the witnesses was dead and he's not dead he's just old doesn't come out of his house house much and now doesn't remember the details because it's been so long and he's in his 80s.

But that's a shocking headline. Yeah, that makes you go.
That's right. Thank you, Roy.
That's absolutely like that's that's that's absolutely what your reaction is supposed to be to that.

Um, how do you decide the man's dead? Did no one like knock on his door? Like, hey, is like, you know, Ken there? Like, no, he's not there. Oh, dead, must be dead.

No solution. How is that decided? There are no death certificates somewhere.
Like, I like the idea of if you gather someone, they're not home, I'll dead.

I mean, that seems to be what I have. I must be dead.
I don't know.

It seems to be an investigation that wasn't very thorough. But somehow the bills were paid on time.

Another Zadzlow snort, our second historic snort from Zadzlo, laughing. Zaslow, again, continues to get ego inflation because more and more people are noticing his opinions.

They're noticing the things that he's doing.

He's going to be a part of College Game Days football extravaganza in Miami this weekend as part of ESPN. I didn't think you remember the name.
You got it right. Yeah.

ESPN Radio's coverage of UM Gators, but also, and this is not going to help disinflate his head.

Now, Paul Maurice is indeed giving Zaslow the credit for ending a vacation early to rescue the Panthers last year.

When they were, nobody remembers this, but they were in very big trouble against the Maple Leafs. Like, that was a big, they were

down, and it was a really problematic situation. In the last two years, there hasn't been a scarier situation, even with McDavid, than being down to Toronto in overtime, down, down 2-0 in the series.

And down down 2-0 in that game, by the way. Yes, and here's Paul Maurice giving Zaszlo the credit that he obviously deserves.
That's the great stories of here.

And then when you can get like grandparents, parents, and a kid that are all tied to that, they get to keep that memory for the rest of their lives. And that's how you build fans.

We had that happen here with ESTN Radio at ESPN West Palm. One of our guys, Jonathan Zaszlo, cut his family vacation short.
There you go. Because when he was at home, y'all were winning.

When he got hit the road, y'all got a couple of losses there. And you will.

Okay. So, first of all, what was his name? Jonathan Zaslow.
Well, you tell Jonathan I said hello, and thank you very much for that because this all weaves together.

Thank you for your service, Zaslow. Yes.
Thank you. I think you should be the game dig picker instead of Matthew Kachuck because you saved the season.

And even though that's the biggest trade in history and forced Mike to say that LeBron James was a bad trade. Bad trade.

Zaszlo, I think you should bang the drum. Bang the drum.

Well, first of all, coach,

you're welcome. I appreciate those guys, my guys there at ESPN 1063 in West Palm, not also mentioning to him that I once dubbed him Murder of Fun.
That's good looking out. I appreciate that.

I would love to bang the drum. We'll see.
That's neither here nor there. That clip there makes me very happy, Dan.
Very happy.

Did you feel bad at all that he didn't initially know who was being talked about? I'm a fan. No, I'm just a fan.
No. You're not just a fan.

You're somebody who cut a vacation vacation short to save your team. Just did my part.
Just doing my part for the team. And

hey, you all would have done the same thing. You would have done the same thing.
I'm not sure that we all would have done that.

I wasn't traveling at the time, but I certainly would have because I love this team and I love Paul Maurice, even though I also agreed with you at the time.

But now I realize that it's growing pains, and we're both big men that can admit when they were wrong. I love that team, Steve.
I love that about us. So I just

want to be clear on what you guys love about you. Just to be clear.

So, for the record,

two-time defending champion Paul Maurice is the murderer of fun, and LeBron James was a bad trade for the Miami.

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