Local Hour: The U Is Back (pt. 5)
Dan is officially in “not a prisoner of the moment” mode: The University of Miami is the best team in the country. They’ve taken the state back, which is what Mario Cristobal was hired to do. Mario knows more about analytics than NFL coaches do. Miami has its most complete team in over 2 decades. They have the best pass rushers in school history. They have their next Devin Hester. They even have their greatest ever mascot. But don’t worry, Mario, Dan, and Mike all know the standard.
Today's cast: Dan, Chris, Billy, Mike, Tony, and Roy.
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Speaker 12 The Mariners, huh?
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Home game? Hadn't won a home playoff game since 2001. That's our wheelhouse.
That's Griffey. That's Big Unit.
Speaker 13 That's A-Rod.
Speaker 12 Mike, you got wrapped up in the Seattle Mariners last year. Were you paying attention to them at all this year? Have you checked in on them even during the playoffs?
Speaker 16 So I'm in a Mariners group chat with Mina and some other sports media luminaries.
Speaker 13 So that's how I've been able to follow them.
Speaker 19 I haven't watched a single game, but they're all over my algo.
Speaker 20 Big dumper guy.
Speaker 20 I'll check back in this week now that the football weekend is over.
Speaker 1 I have to be careful on this one because I'm not 100%
Speaker 24 sure.
Speaker 4 Why were we acting like Julio Rodriguez is dying?
Speaker 4 Like, I was super confused about, like, all of the honors and everything that we were doing for Julio Rodriguez. Like, he got a hit in an RBI, good.
Speaker 18 But we were acting.
Speaker 1 He's not retiring.
Speaker 19 He's like 32 or something. What?
Speaker 12 Seattle badly wants a superstar. He is part of.
Speaker 26 They have one, Big Dumper.
Speaker 25 He's going to be the MVP of the league potentially.
Speaker 12 Yeah, but him,
Speaker 12 he's now the old guy.
Speaker 12 He's now whatever Ken Griffey Jr. was when A-Rod was coming up.
Speaker 27 He could never.
Speaker 18 He could never.
Speaker 1 He's 24.
Speaker 12 Didn't you have a jersey?
Speaker 18 I do have a Rodriguez jersey.
Speaker 28 That's the Rodriguez?
Speaker 29 He's 24.
Speaker 29 Why are we acting like this is the end for him?
Speaker 12 He's one of the old-timey mariners. He's been there suffering for years.
Speaker 29 He's 24.
Speaker 1 Older than CJ Stroud.
Speaker 12 Man, they're making high school players who are dominating FSU who are 17. Like,
Speaker 12 I don't even understand.
Speaker 12 How it is a 17-year-old can run a college football sport on the road with perfect passes. He's 17.
Speaker 12 You guys do know the U is back, right?
Speaker 32 To work.
Speaker 33 This is the Don Levatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.
Speaker 12 I meant to get to the Panthers fighting the lightning
Speaker 12 when we were talking earlier because the delight on Roy's face as the two-time champions returned to work by just creating a riot that if it happened in any other sport,
Speaker 12 a riot of such intensity, we would ban the teams forever in organizations and say you cannot behave that way. That was supposed to be a professional hockey game.
Speaker 12 You cannot have 7,000 penalties and a guy getting an assist who'd been ejected.
Speaker 18 Well, I can tell you that the Panthers didn't create that riot.
Speaker 34 It was the lightning, and that was in response to Thursday's game when A.J.
Speaker 13 Greer.
Speaker 12 It's in response to the last 10 years, Roy. Okay.
Speaker 12 It's in response to the last 10 years of the fight for hockey has been in this state, which is funny at Canada's expense.
Speaker 12
And they're fighting the lightning because bleep you, lightning, we took what was yours. That's why they're fighting the lightning.
You're going to go to the micro on that.
Speaker 29 Yeah.
Speaker 12 These are organizations that hate each other because the Panthers took what the lightning got because the lightning taught them how to take it.
Speaker 34 Well, I mean, the Panthers kind of taught themselves with what they did with Vegas and losing that series.
Speaker 18 But yes, yes, you're exactly right.
Speaker 35 The Panthers had a goal removed that they scored in that preseason game because Mikola assisted it after he was ejected.
Speaker 35 Think about that for a second.
Speaker 34 I got some stats for you here. There were 20 roughing minors.
Speaker 28 There were four majors that weren't fights.
Speaker 24 There were five fights, two match penalties, six 10-minute misconducts, 12 game misconducts, 65 total penalties.
Speaker 12
They didn't play a hockey game. It was all right.
You know how I'm watching football, and every once in a while, soccer breaks out with the kickers and rugby breaks out with the tush-push.
Speaker 12 push and it's another or punching boxing breaks out we're like don't put this with my sports this was a full-fledged riot 322 that was not a hockey game that was the panthers and the lightning have been fighting over the state for the last 10 years and in college football the three teams have been fighting for the state for the last 50 years and i am not going to be a prisoner of the moment on this So I'm going to offer you some qualifiers.
Speaker 12 And I'm going to say that I understand that the University of Miami is fully capable of losing a football game to Duke or Georgia Tech.
Speaker 12 But the team that I saw do that in Tallahassee to that Florida State team, that was 2-10 last year. and confused us all with what happened at Alabama.
Speaker 12 The University of Miami can beat you more ways than any team in college football. They are the best team in college football.
Speaker 12 Maybe Ohio State could beat them in a game because whatever, but the talent they have, they have more ways to beat you than any team in the sport. It's obvious.
Speaker 12
What Texas just had happen to them at Florida, these are not one-game samples. Over a month, the best athletes are always in Florida and Miami has ransacked them.
I saw USF.
Speaker 12
USF is a good football team. USF has a ton of talent.
And look at what happens when Texas goes into the swamp.
Speaker 12 An offense that was incompetent with the Gators suddenly makes what's supposed to be the cream of the SEC and the guy with the quarterback chromosome, oh no, Texas, you're not even going to make the playoff.
Speaker 12
You're Penn State. Frauds, bogus.
Florida takes the sport back. So now it's Florida and Ohio State because what you saw from Miami in doing that to a physical FSU team that did that to Alabama
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is, oh, you can't play with them. They can beat you with big plays now.
They can beat you with defense. They're not going to do all of the dumb things.
Speaker 12
They'll take a touchdown off the board because of an illegal procedure. Fine.
The kid turned 18, had three touchdowns, one of them taken away.
Speaker 12 The one that was taken away was more, was prettier than the others, and one of those was a pro throw.
Speaker 12
So Florida State got ransacked. Do not let the score fool you.
Maybe Miami loses a game because whatever, the stuff that's been at the end where they go conservative in the second half,
Speaker 12 maybe they lose a game, but they're better than anybody else in the first half because when they take the field, they're extraordinary.
Speaker 12 Like they are the balanced thing that doesn't exist in a sport that's gone true parody.
Speaker 37 FSU did a really good job against Miami's run.
Speaker 20 They kind of sold out for that.
Speaker 17 Miami was prepared for that game plan, knew that they could take some shots on some corners, that gamble.
Speaker 17 Entering the game for his career, Carson Beck was three of 15 on balls that traveled over 40 yards in the air.
Speaker 16 In the first half, he had two of such passes.
Speaker 23 The third bounce off of Malachi Tony's hands was an absolute dot from Carson Beck.
Speaker 3 I think maybe we should apply the context of it raining down here for a month straight when we have conversations about Carson Beck.
Speaker 38 He was dynamite. And I heard,
Speaker 15 I did a lot of listening to FSU podcasts, both before and after the game.
Speaker 38 And a pretty good analogy was made by one of the FSU podcasts is Miami's that power hitter that pitcher decides, if you want to beat us, you're going to beat us.
Speaker 37 We're going to throw low and away, and you're going to have to find a way to beat us.
Speaker 32 Okay, we'll go Apo.
Speaker 18 Like, okay, that's what you're going to give us.
Speaker 23 We'll beat you whichever way you want us to.
Speaker 15 Miami is a very deep, very balanced team.
Speaker 12
Why are your hands tied? Your hands have been tied. This program's hands have been tied for 20 years.
Why are your hands presently tied? That looks like a good, tight...
Speaker 12 I cannot tie the kind of knot that is required, a fisherman's knot, to get Mike Ryan so that he is not able to move his hands. What's happened here?
Speaker 14 This was my second loss at the Dentech bucket. I thought I was definitely going to have another loss this last week.
Speaker 15 Shout out to Mac Jones, who saw a dead body before the game.
Speaker 18 Appreciate that.
Speaker 20 One of the more improbable straight-up victories.
Speaker 18 So thankfully,
Speaker 3 this settles my account at the
Speaker 18 Dentech bucket debt.
Speaker 4 Does someone look cooler than they ever would?
Speaker 35 Like, the coolest anyone ever looks is roping a boat. When someone gets on the dock and they do that thing where they can just, by flinging the rope, you think that's the Billy Wayne?
Speaker 30 What is the peace?
Speaker 12 What are you looking at?
Speaker 4
It's a bad thing. I'm just listening.
I'm here.
Speaker 2 Give me something cooler. Beat it.
Speaker 44 The guy hops off the boat.
Speaker 35 Everyone else is still on the boat and he's tying that thing down without even having to use a second hand.
Speaker 45 How about pushing off? When you're untying it, you're pushing off the dock.
Speaker 1 No, the untie is not as cool as the tie.
Speaker 26 No, you don't know what you're talking about. The untie.
Speaker 1 It's cool.
Speaker 45 You can kick off the dock, and then you get back on the boat with one leg.
Speaker 46 Cool.
Speaker 27 That is cool.
Speaker 13 That is cool.
Speaker 44
You're on basically both. You're on the dock and the boat untying.
Hey, we're off back here.
Speaker 45 Boom, I kick off.
Speaker 35 And we're on.
Speaker 12 Love a boater's not.
Speaker 12 Chris, are you saying that you could apply yourself and then feel cool if you were coming in off the boat and every, all the part, what you're saying is the part that you've got covered, you're basically saying a crew member.
Speaker 12 is able to do something
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with such dexterity. Well, it doesn't have to be a captain.
It can just be somebody from the crew.
Speaker 35 Have you guys ever gone out with someone that's like one? It's not, I don't have a yacht, okay? You get like a captain that he's the only guy on the boat. He ends up doing it all.
Speaker 47 You got to help him in that spot. Yeah.
Speaker 1 You got to help.
Speaker 35 I'm just telling you. I've been on a boat where the captain does it all.
Speaker 12
Fine, Chris. These are details that are not produced.
No, they wanted to jump down my third.
Speaker 29 Oh, the captain. Yeah, the captain.
Speaker 12 Well, because you're saying it's the coolest thing.
Speaker 25 The captain would ever do that when they always do that.
Speaker 12 It depends.
Speaker 1 It depends the size of the boat. You don't accurately.
Speaker 12 You're yourself a man of the people by being on a smaller boat where the captain does all of the work.
Speaker 4
A man of the people ties the knots themselves and drives the boat. They don't have a captain.
Chris is like upper middle class trying to rely on the boat.
Speaker 1 We hired some board to drive us.
Speaker 4 Every three years, I rent a boat for the day, and we have a captain.
Speaker 1 Once every three years, though, don't get crazy.
Speaker 35 I'm saving up for this.
Speaker 12 Chris has got it right for him
Speaker 12 because he likes the idea of a captain who's in control of the seas down here where where it is difficult any one of us would try to tie up that boat and we would do real damage to that boat banging against the side because it takes the dexterity and the winds do not cooperate and neither do the waves i've i've seen hanover beach swallow all these amateurs who don't understand the inlets around tonies over here captain tony's
Speaker 12 hold on why am i being i'm the one that says i'm defensive right now thank you one and two i'm just what no none i'm saying so the first mate what i what i usually am on the boat that my my father-in-law has call yourself that i'm the guy no no because he's the captain the captain can't drive the boat against the dock and then jump out tie the boat and then come back and then tie the other chris is saying he's had a one-man crew who's an amazing one-man band you guys just sit there and watch him because he's i'm hammered he's doing middle-class that's why it looks cool this is what's happening middle class drinking and he just gets on a boat your captain takes care of him
Speaker 12 he'll bring out some pigs he'll bring out some pigs and a blanket that he got at Publix and Chris is riding the high seas on a Sunday like a baller because he's got a captain but it's a one-man show unless he brings his son on Sunday.
Speaker 30 Just shut up and sit down.
Speaker 1 All right, thank you. And maybe you
Speaker 4
think the captain's cool. It's not the act of it.
You just like the captain.
Speaker 1 The act of that riding. No,
Speaker 12 the thing I'm saying that Chris has right is that captain can get off a boat and he'll lasso the entirety of the seas. And
Speaker 12 it's impressive that he can do it without any help because our winds are strong. And so is our local college football team.
Speaker 12 The University of Miami, because it now has, and look, health matters and all the qualifiers, okay? In a one-game sample, anybody can lose.
Speaker 12 But what Ruben Bain does to get that 15-yard penalty, he's physically more menacing than everyone who is out there on the defensive line.
Speaker 12 He's a clear top 10 pick, and you will not throw against them consistently because they will keep plays in front of them, even if it's Castellanos.
Speaker 12 And Castellanos is good, but he felt a little bit like he was out there by himself.
Speaker 12 It's like, I'm as good an athlete as some of these other guys, but my front lines aren't as good as their front lines. And it's on both sides because you say Carson Beck in the rain.
Speaker 12 No, not Carson Beck in the rain. Carson Beck, with no one around him playing a different sport, because it's not loop-de-loops.
Speaker 12 It's because those defensive linemen are not going to be able to get past those offensive linemen. And so that's an easy game.
Speaker 12 Carson Beck can play that game for any team in the land if you're going to protect him like that.
Speaker 12 He'll get receivers open at Ken State that way because that's Castellanos was not allowed to play that football game.
Speaker 18 Castellanos.
Speaker 13 No.
Speaker 44 Hold on. Why is it Castellanos?
Speaker 49 Because
Speaker 29 he's saying it wrong.
Speaker 12
You, Tony, they keep telling me that I can't change his name because his mama called him that. And I'm like, his mama doesn't call him that.
His mama called him Castellanos.
Speaker 46 Yeah, Janos.
Speaker 12 He can't change it. He's not allowed.
Speaker 27 I think that's usually how it works.
Speaker 49 No, it doesn't work that way.
Speaker 46 Really?
Speaker 19 That's all right. Ruben Bain had 11 pressures.
Speaker 18 This duo of Mezador, there was a great moment.
Speaker 38 And
Speaker 51 if you were there, you could notice it.
Speaker 18 Castellanos is doing his thing in the backfield, very slippery.
Speaker 3 He runs into Ruben Bain, who has his arms outstretched.
Speaker 22 I can't display it because my hands are tied, but he's like, you're going to run into my arms.
Speaker 3 Casalanos puts a foot in the ground and decides, I'll just run into Mezador's arms instead, please. Thank you very much.
Speaker 43 11 pressures.
Speaker 3 The sack numbers aren't there for Ruben Bain, but if you're watching these games, Ruben Bain and Mezador are absolutely
Speaker 18 recognized.
Speaker 12 So here's, having watched, like, this has got some history behind it, okay, when I'm talking about what championship teams look like at Miami, just physically, what they look like, how you can't get side to side on them.
Speaker 12 And even if you're a 6'6 wide receiver, you can't get past their secondary either because
Speaker 12 we've had down here some champions and we had down here that before Burrow and Jamar Chase was the single best college football team I'd ever seen, it was Butch Davis learning what needed to be learned so that all of the athletes out there, you were like, oh.
Speaker 12
Oh, I see now in the pros why it is Ohio State's been good for 10 years. Look at all those receivers that came out of Ohio State.
Of course, that's how it happened.
Speaker 12
Miami has never had this as an edge rush. Like, never had it.
Like, I'll go back to Daniel Stubbets and Bill Hawkins, but they've always gotten the pressure up the middle.
Speaker 12 It's never been two beasts on the side that you can't get outside of either because they're too big and strong.
Speaker 18 Yeah, two guys at the same time. Like, again, try not to be hyperbolic, but this season goes away that it's a look.
Speaker 15 And you can talk about Mezador and Bain as potentially the greatest edge rush duo in the history of Miami.
Speaker 14 You mentioned Ohio State.
Speaker 40 Miami, I know nationally, everyone just is going to make the assumption, well, it's NIL.
Speaker 47 They're going after all these blue chippers.
Speaker 43 And yeah, there are some blue chippers here.
Speaker 24 But let's look at the guys making the impact in this game.
Speaker 18 There was a sequence there, and this was highlighted by Gabby
Speaker 18 Uritia
Speaker 38 of Through the Smoke.
Speaker 23 There was a two-play sequence in which Miami got 80 yards from true freshmen.
Speaker 23 Bryce Fitzgerald, a four-star true freshman, gets an interception, runs it back, and then Malachi Tony, who was a three-star, gets a huge bomb.
Speaker 47 And
Speaker 3 Miami wins a game there.
Speaker 18 Ruben Bain, four-star, should have been a five-star, led the state in Saks, was a four-star.
Speaker 38 Jacoby Thomas, who was absolutely flying all over the field.
Speaker 3 This was a rotational guy for Tennessee that Miami gets in the portal.
Speaker 23 Miami is also doing some really good talent evaluation.
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Speaker 30 To us, residents.
Speaker 50 Oh, wow. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 30 You think I haven't been practicing? Stugats.
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Speaker 12 The way Alabama lost when it went to that stadium, and that's Alabama, and we erased how quickly all of Alabama's last 15 years in saying, ah, Alabama's done and Florida State's back.
Speaker 12 No, Florida State has really good athletes, but they're not the best in the state.
Speaker 12 The best in the state has ransacked the state and the best in the state has a football team that I haven't seen down here. This was not Rick's football team that got in the top five.
Speaker 12
I doubted that team all season long. I never thought that team had the best players.
But this thing steps on the field. And what I'm telling you, haven't seen what USF actually is.
Speaker 12
To drag them physically is to look at what happened with Texas when they went into Florida. They're like, no, they're playing Florida football down here now.
SEC, all that shit's been erased.
Speaker 12 Like whatever, whatever the gerrymandering is in the jurisdictions, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You get all the Florida kids and you can win the state.
Speaker 12 Everyone in the country knows you can fight with Ohio and Alabama and Georgia and anything else that you want to put out there because physically what Miami is doing is CJ Daniels is in Doe Campbell Stadium and I can hear him on the microphone in in the end zone doing the war chant at 28 to 3 because it's gone that dead after Jimbo Fisher who knows what champions look like is weeping during the pregame because they're doing the war chant but no not yet FSU like not yet because the state has been taken it's fixed it's like have no question that when Castellanos is being pressured 31 times and Zeck is being pressured six it's fixed like whatever you had on on you thought their defense could not be trusted no Castellanos is a tremendous athlete.
Speaker 12
He did that to Alabama in that stadium. He was fighting at the end.
It was impressive to watch him.
Speaker 1 Lanos.
Speaker 50 Lanos.
Speaker 16 What's fixed?
Speaker 12 Everything at UM is fixed.
Speaker 4 Yeah, but Beck's gone next year, so you have to start again.
Speaker 13 Cameron Ward was gone last year.
Speaker 26 Okay, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 You can't just say Billy's family.
Speaker 30 No, but no, but they can get hurt.
Speaker 27 I think they're going to get AL in the way things work now.
Speaker 18
I think Mario Crisobal has shown over the last three years, if there's a problem, he'll solve it. Check out the hook while his DJ revolves it.
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Speaker 12 Beck can get hurt, Billy, and it can render moot some of what I'm saying. Health can
Speaker 12 render moot much of what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 The playoffs, also, by the way, with so many rounds, I mean, they'll probably get a buy, right? But you have to win multiple rounds to get to the national championship and then win it.
Speaker 4 It's not just.
Speaker 3 That's insight we only get here.
Speaker 4 Well, I'm just saying, it's not just, hey, finish in the top four and you have to win one game and you're in the championship anymore.
Speaker 32 I think we're aware of what the standard is. Okay.
Speaker 10 But, Billy,
Speaker 12 yes, they can turn the ball over four times times in a game and lose I I've seen my Miami lost to Penn State in a championship that made Penn State because they had a team that was that good and then had six turnovers and they lost what I'm saying is that what I'm watching physically it's as good as anything it's obvious it's obvious to the eye with like they could turn the ball over five times and lose a game it wouldn't change my opinion on they just dragged monster athletes through Florida through USF and through FSU dragged all of them which is going to be the scary one on the schedule come on there's a couple coming up here which one's it gonna be Mike yeah
Speaker 18 look, looking at the landscape of college football, if you ask yourself honestly, is there a team in this country that can run the table perfectly?
Speaker 48 I think Nick Saban, who, by the way, is unbelievable on TV and has found a way to be really good and insightful on TV without being overly charismatic.
Speaker 3 Honestly, Tom Brady should borrow a page from what Nick Saban is doing because the audience is rooting for Tom Brady.
Speaker 23 Lean on your insight. Tell me your knowledge of the game.
Speaker 37 Give me a little sneak peek into that brain of yours.
Speaker 18 Nick Sabin does that routinely.
Speaker 37 And Nick Sabin was tremendous on College Game Day this last week.
Speaker 19 And he made the point, you know, we had a lot of great teams.
Speaker 52 I've won seven national titles.
Speaker 3 You know how many of those teams went undefeated?
Speaker 21 One.
Speaker 13 Teams have adversity.
Speaker 3 Miami is going to face adversity in these games.
Speaker 42 They face adversity.
Speaker 20 I think they're really well positioned.
Speaker 23 Miami looks like they can beat anyone in the nation.
Speaker 18 I do think that there's this upper tier in the nation, like Oregon, Ohio State, certainly.
Speaker 53 Texas Tech.
Speaker 39 Well, Texas Tech, we'll see.
Speaker 24 You know, Texas Tech's defense, no doubt, looks like they're formidable.
Speaker 52 I'm not ready to write off Texas,
Speaker 3 but I'm really shocked at what Texas's offensive line looked like against Florida.
Speaker 15 Florida's still missing guys on defense.
Speaker 3 They got one guy back on offense, Dallas Wilson, seemed to make a difference, although them running the ball seemed to be the key thing there.
Speaker 48 I was stunned.
Speaker 15 This is a program that famously had an NIO program where every offensive lineman got a million dollars, got a seven-figure deal, and Texas got dominated at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 23 Arch Manning had no shot in that game.
Speaker 12 The thing that I am saying, Billy, and I understand anybody, I have not done this before with the University of Miami, and I'm telling you, I didn't do it when they were 10-0 for Mark Richt
Speaker 12 because that was an inferior team physically.
Speaker 12 I haven't seen what Malachi Tony is here since like Santana Moss and Kevin Williams, where they have a little jitterbug who's faster than everybody out there. And
Speaker 12 you can put him back on punt returns, and he just knows how to do what Devin Hester does, and you can't teach it.
Speaker 14 It is funny.
Speaker 43 Devin Hester is actually a good one.
Speaker 3 Like, if you clocked his speed, straight line speed, Devin Hester, like what you remember of Devin Hester doesn't exactly compute there.
Speaker 47 And Malachitoni does look fast on the field.
Speaker 3 He is not this speedster guy.
Speaker 23 He's doing it by putting a foot in the ground and going, being decisive, having incredible vision.
Speaker 14 It's the stiff arm that he had on the one that got called back.
Speaker 37 Like, this kid is an unbelievable natural at the game.
Speaker 12 It's a Restrepo with deep threat capabilities that are larger than and more obvious than Restrepos.
Speaker 12 Like, it Again, any of these guys can get hurt, but the way that he's trending is not something I've ever seen in the history of the school from someone who just turned 18, where it's like he can go into any swamp in America and beat your football team with 60-yard plays.
Speaker 12 That's not something that's very common at even Miami, who has had
Speaker 12 plenty of big play players.
Speaker 18 He was forced to play a lot of quarterback last year because he was at a school in which our best player is going to touch the ball every time.
Speaker 23 So that's another reason why he came in as a three-star.
Speaker 18 Malaki.
Speaker 12 So if I can here, because
Speaker 12 when I look at
Speaker 12 the entire history of what it is that Florida and FSU have been, Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders right now are playing out their last act on television, figuring out how to dominate the media landscape for the last 30 years like they've dominated it.
Speaker 12 And Deion just got passed, and he's in bad health, and he's saying he's in pain during the press conference and he's got blood clots.
Speaker 12 And I'm guessing that Deion doesn't need or want to do that that much longer. He did what he wanted to do with his son.
Speaker 12 And I guess that physically he's beaten up in a way that makes all of that very hard. But he conquered, got to college football, grabbed one grass, one last grift here.
Speaker 12
And I'd assume that Dion will look for an exit ramp here. And I'm not accusing him of quitting in any way.
I just, if you're in, in
Speaker 12 harm and in pain and your health is bad and it's hard for him to walk and he's in and out of hospitals and your son no longer plays there and you got Travis Hunter and your son to the big day, like I maybe you think he's got a greater commitment to Colorado than I do.
Speaker 12 I think he's a mercenary who's always been about Dion
Speaker 12 and
Speaker 12 got, you know, got a big bag of money and will probably get out soon.
Speaker 3 I would have thought that too, and I think it's unfair considering he's there right now.
Speaker 13 He had every reason.
Speaker 37 All the reasons that you just outlined were probably even more serious when he felt like his life was in grave danger and he decided to tough it out.
Speaker 37 Maybe he's decided, maybe it wasn't worth it, but I think he's earned a lot because of what you outlined.
Speaker 12 I've admired these two men, flaws and all, Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders, because they taught me how to love this thing that felt like it had returned on Saturday, where Miami's going to FSU.
Speaker 12 FSU's priding itself on being the scary place with the culturally appropriated war chant that makes Jimbo Fisher cry because he'll never feel as good, even as the highest paid coach in America, that he did when he had Jameis Winston and he was able to do what Bobby Bowden had such a hard time doing.
Speaker 12 His teacher, his mentor, Jimbo got to highest paid salary, won with the greatest quarterback that there's ever been as a freshman in the state.
Speaker 12
cries with the war chant. Miami goes in there and throttles him.
And FSU's been at the top. They go from 13-1 to 2-10 to you know they're good enough to beat Alabama by two touchdowns at home.
Speaker 12 Whatever else they are, you know they're good enough to do that, and that means something still, no matter the state of Alabama.
Speaker 12 To see Michael Irvin attach himself now because he realizes, no, that looks like the championship things, and I am still the guy who used to call my old dorm number from the Champion Cowboys just to make sure that those University of Miami kids were doing the right things.
Speaker 12
He has now become the new mascot for the University of Miami at 50. He's reinventing himself.
Television jobs are drying up. They're hard to get.
Speaker 12 Like he's on first take with Cam Newton, but there aren't a lot of spaces right now for Michael Irvin. So, what's he doing?
Speaker 4 He had one until he cost himself the job. Seems to be taking a belt to the side of the bank.
Speaker 26 BTA, Dano, BTA.
Speaker 12
That is correct. He's on media hard times, but he's officially allowed to be the University of Miami's mascot.
Who? Can you guys find this for me, Lewis, in the back room?
Speaker 12
It used to be that the mascot, the Ibis, the Ibis has had two legendary scandals. One, he was handcuffed on the field at Doe Campbell.
There's a photo of that somewhere.
Speaker 12 The Ibis mascot was handcuffed on the field. The other illegality was an Orange Bowl game that wasn't supposed to be a home game.
Speaker 12 The Hurricanes weren't allowed to come through the smoke, and he still brought out a fire extinguisher anyway.
Speaker 12 Those are the two great scandals of the greatest mascot there's ever been in South Florida.
Speaker 47 Michael Irvin's better.
Speaker 12
Michael Irvin should forever be the mascot for the University of Miami football team. He could be Yama Yama.
He could could be Dolphin Denny.
Speaker 12 He could be the greatest mascot there has ever been for the University of Miami football team. Does anyone here not endorse that? Will you guys all notarize that if I allow that for the rest of time?
Speaker 31 Did you see him get bowled over during the game? He and Holly Row.
Speaker 28 Holly Row, tough, tough as nails.
Speaker 14 Went to the ground twice during that game.
Speaker 31 Put it on the poll.
Speaker 12 Holly Rowe, tough as nails. Yes or no?
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Speaker 41 I don't think in 2021 I can get away with my Michael Irvin radio show impression.
Speaker 50 No, probably not.
Speaker 29 Stoogats! Pop pop!
Speaker 50 Give.
Speaker 50 Kiv!
Speaker 50 I think that's so okay. I think you do.
Speaker 33 This is the Dalebatar Show with the Stukats.
Speaker 12 The University of Miami, people are going to see it as an overreaction, I think. Billy,
Speaker 12 you want to pull the other side of this today and say...
Speaker 4 That's the thing is the best team we've ever seen.
Speaker 12 It's not, but it's the most complete one I've seen since the 2001 one. Just complete, more ways to beat you.
Speaker 24 Yeah, I think everyone understands that this team is
Speaker 31 got to prove it.
Speaker 14 And like I said, there's a lot of, man, parody is so great.
Speaker 28 I think this was the first time since 1996 that teams this far under 500, UCLA, who I believe was winless in a
Speaker 3 one victory Florida, that teams that were that bad in win-loss records on the same weekend upended two top 10 teams.
Speaker 51 NIL has leveled the playing field.
Speaker 3 Parody is fun.
Speaker 18 I think it actually makes sense to have an expanded playoff field, although people have their feelings because what teams are right now, they're not going to be come December, come January.
Speaker 12 Chris, why are you laughing?
Speaker 35 I could watch Michael Irvin all day.
Speaker 12
I keep put it up on all the televisions here. Just put him up.
Look, I just want him everyone.
Speaker 27 on the wall.
Speaker 3 That's not even the best one, Dan. The best one is him doing push-ups in the locker room when everybody's walking in.
Speaker 27 I go belt.
Speaker 12 Who's got a better mascot than Michael Irvin as the University of Miami's mascot?
Speaker 36 Flaws and all.
Speaker 29 Flaws and all. All of it.
Speaker 35 I mean, he's literally in a couple of these standing right next to the mascot and just outshining him.
Speaker 1 The mascot's like, yeah, go ahead, man.
Speaker 13 He was all around town, just like in
Speaker 19 overalls, just talking to FSU fans, getting into the banter game.
Speaker 48 He's about this Miami football life.
Speaker 12 Don't you think it's funny, though, that he was from afar envying what Theon was getting in Colorado? Because Michael can't do the things Dion can to become a coach and leader that way.
Speaker 12 Nobody would ever entrust him with anything except this. I'll give him this and I'll give him a lifetime.
Speaker 30 Where does he find the energy, Dan?
Speaker 3 Push-ups in the locker room, Dan.
Speaker 46 That's all you got to know.
Speaker 27 Limitless energy right here.
Speaker 44 What is this? like i feel like i got to do push-ups the mascot is hyping him up this guy's tank is always on f
Speaker 29 How does he do it? He's an older man.
Speaker 12 Danny Cannell was on satellite radio interviewing Joe Zagati last week, and I got out of the car, but was legitimately interested in what Joe's answer was to this because he was asked, what's the best of the games you've ever seen with the Seminoles and the Hurricanes?
Speaker 12 Which is the one that you remember the most? The one I remember is the one that Michael Irvin in the fourth quarter, down 19 to 3, came back and stole their championship, running down the sideline.
Speaker 12
And Tony's faster than Michael is. Like, Michael wasn't even one of the faster guys, but that's what those champions look like.
And this
Speaker 12 team looks like that. This team has Jason Taylor coaching the defensive ends.
Speaker 12 Like, do you guys realize that how Jason Taylor is going to get into this game trying to be a head coach by having to do what he's done with those defensive ends?
Speaker 12 They are learning from the best person to ever rush a passer in the state, in this region.
Speaker 12 Like, Jason Taylor's working as an assistant coach, a Hall of Fame assistant coach coaching these defensive ends because they know it's championship good.
Speaker 12
They know they have the bodies and the money to compete with anybody. When I say it's fixed, you're right, Billy.
They'll have to buy another quarterback next year.
Speaker 12
But those recruits saw what they did to Florida. Like, this is Miami taking the state back.
They haven't been able to do that for a while.
Speaker 12 It's been a minute.
Speaker 54 I I mean, but that's not what they hired Mario Kristoff to do is to win the state.
Speaker 5 Yes, it was.
Speaker 51
That's correct. Yes, it was.
No, it was.
Speaker 14 It begins down here.
Speaker 3 That's you win the recruiting battles down here, and you feel like if you win the recruiting battles down here, you have the guys to develop and give your team a chance.
Speaker 47 They are nationally relevant.
Speaker 24 He's done it inside of four years, and he knows the job's not finished.
Speaker 43 He is back here to win a national championship for Miami.
Speaker 48 Whether that's this year or down the line, it now feels like we are on that path.
Speaker 38 and it hasn't felt like that in a very long time in terms of being sustainable, in terms of being real.
Speaker 28 Yes, Billy is absolutely right.
Speaker 24 He was brought here to win national championships.
Speaker 3 You know who said that? Mario Cristobal.
Speaker 51 You know who says that privately?
Speaker 47 Mario Cristobal.
Speaker 24 You can't get there without having these benchmarks along the way. Winning the state, back-to-back state champs, dominating at the line of scrimmage, looking like the best team in America at times.
Speaker 31 Yeah, they're on their way.
Speaker 45 Does it feel like the tide has turned a little bit on Mario?
Speaker 28 The tide. Is it early to say or is it
Speaker 37 when Mario Cristobal knows more about analytics than people in the NFL right now?
Speaker 51 Because I, for the life of me, if you think making a two-score game, a two-score game with a field goal is the right move, don't talk to me.
Speaker 32 Don't talk to me.
Speaker 51 You go to kill that game.
Speaker 38 And he made the right call there.
Speaker 18 The execution was bad.
Speaker 52 They probably should have called the timeout because it was rushed.
Speaker 51 Malachi, by the way, had a touchdown if he doesn't run into his offensive lineman.
Speaker 27 Malaki.
Speaker 12 Billy, I see your face. Now, I want to go down a couple of paths here, Chris.
Speaker 12 Help me do it because Mike just threw in a privately there that seems like it's bigger than Happen to Know and needs imaging.
Speaker 12 Like that Mario has said something privately suggests that he's talking to Mario or listening, eavesdropping on Mario in private conversations.
Speaker 12 So when Mike says he's been saying it privately, okay, I want imaging for that because that seems to be a higher standard of journalism than even Happen to Know. Don't you agree?
Speaker 12 Like what the sh what was that? He said it privately.
Speaker 28 He knows what the standard is here.
Speaker 40 He knows what the standard is here better than I do, better than you do, better than Billy does.
Speaker 12 He knows what it means.
Speaker 12 So to that, for a second, for a second, knows what the standard is.
Speaker 12 Yes, this is a very emotional story from Mario Cristobal, who can tell you the exile story and what it meant to coach both FIU and Miami. And he's a lunatic, okay?
Speaker 12
Just overzealous beyond all measure, indefatigable. I guess if Jason Taylor were sitting here right now and I I asked him, are you scared of Mario? I'd probably say yes.
I think.
Speaker 12 Just the intensity is not sane.
Speaker 12
It's, I've got to be better than my brother. It's, I got to be better than all the other Cubans.
It's, I got to be better than them at Miami with the Columbus crew behind me.
Speaker 12 I've got to represent Miami. I've got to represent Miami for people Tony's age because
Speaker 12 his dad knows what I am as an offensive lineman.
Speaker 12 who shouldn't have been playing 100 pounds heavier than I was because I was willing to get, you know, ravage my body in the name of what you do to win this game.
Speaker 19 I guarantee you, Rice.
Speaker 52 I guarantee you, it's more like title good.
Speaker 12 Yeah, but this ring now.
Speaker 12 This person is infected with I'm going to win at We're Tougher Than You up front. And he's got his lifelong friend next to him who doesn't come up to his knee, who's the offensive line coach.
Speaker 12
And what I'm watching that I'm telling you is championship good is no, they'll devour you up front, too. Like it's not what it was last year with Cam Ward.
The secondary will beat you.
Speaker 12 You want to do it with the linebackers? Like,
Speaker 12 if that team stays healthy, it's just very clear that
Speaker 12 there hasn't been this balanced a team here in Miami in 20 years.
Speaker 12 You can't say this feels like the Stephen Morris University of Miami, Billy. Can you? Do you feel like this is all hyperventilation and absurdity and that we're all on Michael Irvin's stuff?
Speaker 4
No, I'm just saying. You brought in Mario Crystal Ball when there was a four-team playoff.
He did not make the 14 playoff. It was expanded to a 12-team playoff.
Speaker 4 He did not make the 12-team playoff with the number one pick in the draft. The team looks good now, but you didn't bring him in to simply say we beat FSU and UF every year.
Speaker 29 All correct.
Speaker 4 So, like, you still need to make it. And we've seen good teams that make it to the playoffs that don't end up winning.
Speaker 4 So, when the standards are the national championship, you can't be going around saying 5-0, everything's fixed.
Speaker 54 I think you can say the major problems facing this program are fixed.
Speaker 24 You can't get back into that conversation being national title good without the guys getting picked at the top of the draft. Miami just hasn't been doing that.
Speaker 37 They had this unbelievable streak of getting first rounders drafted, and now we're looking at a roster that potentially has four top 20 guys on it right now.
Speaker 38 It is,
Speaker 42 to get there, you need the horses to get there.
Speaker 12 He's getting there. So let me just ask you this.
Speaker 4 But recruiting has never been his problem. Coaching is his problem.
Speaker 1 That is correct.
Speaker 4 So like saying that the team is well-rounded and you have all the recruits, that's fine. What they need to overcome is him.
Speaker 32 Is this not a well-coached team?
Speaker 4 It's five games into the season.
Speaker 13 All right, and they've had the hardest, they've had the hardest schedule, I think, in the nation.
Speaker 22 And I think that I hear you.
Speaker 23 No one's debating whether or not Miami needs to win a title to get absolutely back.
Speaker 42 There's times for Mario Kristobal's criticisms.
Speaker 51 There's been plenty of ample opportunities for you to criticize Mario Kristobal.
Speaker 29 I'm not criticizing him. He's just not throwing a championship parade.
Speaker 30 I don't think it's a good thing.
Speaker 35 He's criticizing the they're officially back statement.
Speaker 49 I mean,
Speaker 3 they're back and being in the conversation. They were in the conversation last year.
Speaker 12
Can I give you some of the history, though, when I tell you in all of the last 20 years, you've never heard me say it. I don't do that.
I haven't.
Speaker 12 And so maybe it's my arrogance saying, no, I know what looks championship good down here. I've seen it six times.
Speaker 12
I'm saying, oh, no, I'm looking. It's not just that.
It's what happened to Texas in Florida.
Speaker 12 And it's doing like, oh, the SEC is not actually out in front of anybody. It's all just Mirage now.
Speaker 12 Saban took all that with him.
Speaker 23 Miami is so good this season that they're changing people's minds about team after
Speaker 23 they play them.
Speaker 43 I guess Notre Dame must not be that good.
Speaker 51 USF, they were ranked.
Speaker 3 We forget everything that we were saying about them being able to go into the swamp and beat Florida, but they must not be good because Miami throttled them.
Speaker 28 Look at Florida. They're broken.
Speaker 13 What happens their very next game?
Speaker 16 They beat Texas.
Speaker 23 And not just beat Texas, dominate them in the way that Miami dominated Florida two weeks earlier.
Speaker 51 Miami's a good team.
Speaker 42 This was, I'm not going to allow people to reverse, to change the narrative around FSU's offense, too.
Speaker 28 Look at those numbers.
Speaker 32 They've been moving the ball.
Speaker 30 This is crazy.
Speaker 12 This is what I'm telling you. It's not just the ego of arrogance and what I feel like is expertise.
Speaker 12 It's because I watch that Miami team and I'm like, no, I trust that all that I'm seeing there is so, that all of that is durable, sustainable, solid, because those are all all athletes.
Speaker 12 Because when I'm watching the USF game against Charlotte and they're getting up 23-0, and I know it's Charlotte, but six U.S., I've never seen this before.
Speaker 12 First quarter, six dropped passes right in the chest of USF players because they haven't learned how to play football, but they're unbelievable athletes.
Speaker 12 They have to go to USF because they can't get into the other three schools. The other three that are taking the players are UF, FSU, and Miami.
Speaker 12 And what Miami did to USF to me is more impressive than what they just did to Florida State.
Speaker 12
Because in the USF game, they finished it. There were no questions.
Like, this one will be 28-22, and people will wonder because they didn't watch the entirety of the game.
Speaker 12 They're like, ah, Miami's playing close games late. They're going conservative.
Speaker 12 But I'm watching what is clearly a team of better athletes, top to bottom, front to top, like all of the positions in a way that's obvious.
Speaker 12 Stephen Morris's team didn't feel like this going in top five to pitt. Like it wasn't.
Speaker 12 You did not trust them. I trust them despite their coach.
Speaker 12 I feel like their coach might botch one of these late. I've seen him do it a number of times.
Speaker 3 Dan, what other team in the nation is putting belt to ass on a brick wall?
Speaker 26 Okay, what team, Dan?
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