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Another amazing weekend in the NFL.

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What is the big game next week?

Is it Jacksonville at home against the Chiefs?

MNF.

Yeah, Monday night.

We're not even doing this week.

We're done with this week.

Not quite yet.

There is one story, I believe, in the NFL that is being

wildly undercovered.

And I think the audience might be surprised by this story because you have a home stadium that is actively injuring its most important players.

And I don't think enough people are talking about what is happening with and to the New York Giants.

So yesterday, the Giants pull off the biggest upset in the sport because Jim Harbaugh, who Zaslow has credited with being the greatest coach ever and Colin Cowherd has stolen that take,

was wildly unprepared for the quarterback draw.

He had no answers for Jackson Dart just scrambling right up the middle.

Jackson Dart scores on his opening drive, does the funky chicken in the end zone to dance.

Jackson Dart also punched people with a stiff arm as he was running down the field.

He got the full rookie experience.

He also entered the concussion protocol as well during the game.

Jackson Dart was serviceable, although just throw for 100 yards, kid, and don't turn the ball over and allow Justin Herbert to make mistakes against our defense and allow Dexter Carter or Dexter Lawrence, excuse me, to produce a fat guy running with the football moment that was only usurped by the Alabama player being thrown a screen pass.

What was his name again?

I'm sorry.

350 Proctor.

Thank you.

Close.

It was a delight.

And the Giants, though, I don't think enough people are talking about this.

What is that stadium?

How is it that this stadium gets away with hurting all of the important Giants players, including Malik Neighbors, the most exciting wide receiver, young wide receiver in the league, being knocked out for the season with an ACL tear that you knew immediately was horrible just from the way he was writhing around on the ground?

So we have a stat.

Keep in mind, this will just count Giants.

We've seen plenty of injuries to opposing players and famously Aaron Rodgers on that same turf.

But the Giants have drafted six wide receivers and tight ends in the first two rounds since 2014.

Hodell Beckham Jr., Sterling Shepard, Evan Ingram, Kadarius Tony, Wandale Robinson, Malik Neighbors.

Five of those six have suffered season-ending injuries at MetLife Stadium.

This turf remains a problem.

The NFL just kind of keeps pushing along, but their season is done-done after an infusion of hope with a new quarterback in there.

And you saw their offensive production.

Jackson Dart likes to air it out.

That would have been a great connection to get excited about.

Might have even saved Brian Daybull's job.

Who knows?

And now their season is totally crushed yet again by an injury sustained by the turf monster at MetLife.

Why aren't more people talking about and making the link between that state?

How many more players do I have to injure for the Giants before that becomes a national story on that field is unsafe?

This isn't a coincidence that this keeps happening to the team that plays the most there.

You figure after the second or third one, you're like, you know what?

Somebody should look into that, right?

After the first one, okay, it's a fluke.

Second, third, fourth, it's like, all right, we're hurting our guys that we're paying by not just.

How much is it to change the turf in a stadium?

Arizona wheels it in and out every two days.

What are we doing?

Odell Beckham tweeted out about it last night after the game.

You see this, Danny tweeted, dear NFL, I mean this with the most, with the utmost respect and love.

We take all the precautions in the world with everything else when it comes to players' health and safety.

Please, please, please get rid of the turf.

Thank you in advance.

And then he followed that with respect, and you know I love the Giants, but death life.

That's a play on the name of the stadium because it's MetLife.

He calls it Death Life.

Has taken too many talented players away from the game.

I know it's not all the Turf's fault, but at least maybe

to where we've gotten all research done, the turf has to stay.

It's at the highest of quality possible.

At least we can start the discussion.

Look, injuries happen everywhere, every stadium, violent game.

That may or may not be for Jonathan Zaslow.

I'm just tackle a guy normal.

You can't just run around punching dudes.

It is a narrative around this stadium more than ever.

And it doesn't just happen to New York Giants players.

We saw Jalen Phillips have a huge injury on that same turf.

Aaron Rodgers famously, as we mentioned previously.

It's a thing.

And it hasn't stopped being a thing.

You know what?

I'm actually thinking now.

What if instead of, I may be in on this.

What if instead of actual tackling, the only way that the play-ins,

you have to punch the guy.

That's how you get him down.

Have you seen that video?

It's at MMA basketball where dudes are playing basketball, but it's MMA too.

So you grab a rebound and then you sock a guy.

I might be in on that.

That sport is for me.

I might be in on that.

That sport is for me.

But look, yet another brilliant talent.

Who knows if he'll ever be the same?

Because people heal from these injuries differently.

And at what point do you bake this into how you construct a team?

Let's stop getting guys, skill guys on the outside that can help us.

Let's just be a trench and running game team because the MetLife turf comes for us all.

That is a disaster injury for the Giants.

That is a disaster injury for the development of a young quarterback that did show some promise yesterday.

That's a tough spot to put Jackson Dart in.

I haven't seen a quarterback look good against that defense.

And what he did with his athleticism was something that Harbaugh was clearly unprepared for the entirety of the game.

They never adjusted to to the way that Jackson Dart moves, and he evidently moves better than Russell Wilson because when Russell Wilson was in the game, because Jackson Dart was in the concussion protocol, Russell Wilson did not look like Jackson Dart did.

Also, another argument for the Lord's time zone.

Yeah, you got a team from L.A.

playing in that one o'clock window.

It's a great equalizer sometimes, often against the spread.

What happened in the morning game, and I don't know if this happened to you guys again.

It happens to me every year.

I forget at 9:30 a.m.

that there is a game being played.

And so it was Aaron Rodgers.

God almighty, DK Metcalf is a physical specimen.

Unlike so many in the NFL, where he's running 80 yards beyond your secondary and then also at the three-yard line, looking for contact when your one guy does show up and does catch up, your one smaller guy.

He goes looking for him in order to make the contact because he's such a beast.

Can you imagine trying to tackle him?

Not unlike Caden Proctor, DK Metcalf with 80-yard steam behind him, looking to put a shoulder into somebody.

I burst out laughing at the end of that game at Carson Wentz trying to bring them back in the hurry-up offense and getting a delay of game.

Like,

what are you doing?

It's been a while, Dan.

Come on,

when's the last time he did a two-minute drill?

Good news.

They're body clocks.

Say you just next week.

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Did you learn that Schuyler Thompson was a Steeler after hearing he got mugged in Dublin?

So

he gets mugged.

He has minor injuries.

Obviously, he's not playing because of another injury.

But imagine the injuries sustained at the mugging.

I mean, doesn't minor injuries mean he got punched in the face a bunch?

Maybe.

Maybe we don't know what they are.

They're still investigating it.

But imagine the minor injuries, they had enough to say it.

If he was playing that week, they wouldn't have said minor injuries.

It just would have said nothing.

And that's football versus being mugged.

I would like to know some details about what happened there because getting mugged in Dublin seems like it'd be pretty awful.

And I think football says minor injuries that I wouldn't consider minor.

Exactly.

If they were injuries on me, I don't think that I would describe them as minor, but I'd like more details.

Were you saying getting mugged in Dublin, as a matter of fact, as a newsy tidbit, or out of all the towns that I'd possibly get mugged in,

Dublin just seems bad because of caricatures and stereotypes that I apply to the general region.

Such hooligans.

It's hooligans is what I'm thinking of.

I'm thinking Dublin just feels unsafe.

Just a bunch of guys that look like Seamus.

I thought of you, Zaszlo, this weekend because there is a football player that I believe has the same relationship with his kids that you have with your kids, where you're clearly not

in control of the Zaszlo mansion.

How dare you?

Oh, I mean, your kid called you Sugar Tits.

Like, what do you mean?

How dare you?

Well, it wasn't to my face.

It was via text.

Okay, but he called you sugar tits, and your kids, you know, don't mind fighting you, and you don't mind fighting them.

Do you guys know who I'm talking about when I say there's an NFL player who appears to have the same relationship with his kids that Zaszlo does?

I've seen this

in the NBA some.

Carlos Boozer's kids, when they were little, they are no longer little, they're going to make Duke very good good next year.

But when they were little, they would come to NBA games

wearing the jerseys of Carlos Boozer's sworn enemies.

Joe Flacco's got disrespectful kids, man.

Like,

they wear St.

Brown jerseys yesterday.

They're drawing pictures of Gibbs.

Like,

they're actively trying to bother their old man.

They don't respect their old man.

They respect the old man's opponents too much.

That's garbage.

That'd be like in my kids.

They decided to walk around in like Collie Coward shirts.

What about me?

Did you watch the two quarterback sneaks from Joe Flacco at the goal line?

God bless them.

God bless him.

Father Time, 10-8 round.

Yeah.

Last game for Joe Flacco.

Amino Hassan's going to join us here, and we've got an announcement to make with our beloved friends at Flanagan's in a second.

But first, I'd like to revisit how Tony tried to say legally, illegally, and allegedly last segment.

And Liam Cohen has been known to maybe steal illegal

signs.

I think I covered myself there pretty well.

I think it's illegally, allegedly, it's a live program.

Legal, legally.

And Liam Cohen has been known to maybe steal illegal

stealing signs.

People can misspeak.

To play on, we're live.

Well, what do people want?

Amin El Hassan is got his weekend observations.

I was happy for Amin this weekend because Georgia Tech remains in the game, remains relevant.

I would worry that Brent Key does very well against the teams he's overmatched with, but against

unranked teams in the ACC, he's got a 500 record because he plays down to Wake Forest.

Wake Forrest gets a chance at the end of that game.

And I wish more people did this in both college and the pros, but that's why they don't.

Wake Forest went for two at the end of the game to win.

instead of tying the game.

What a crap play, too, after like a 10-minute delay.

Well, I don't think that most of the people listening to this realize that the University of Miami's first championship was won because Tom Osborne with an overwhelming Nebraska team went for two at the end of a game and season when, if he had tied, he would have remained number one.

All-time balls move.

Oh, but all-time loss as well because,

okay, congratulations, Tom Osborne.

Forever, you have balls, but you don't have a championship because at the end, you did some basic math that was wrong.

You have to play for the tie if what it gets you at the end is you're the number one team automatically with a tie.

That's crazy.

What are you doing?

I mean, why is it that you're holding your face in your hands?

You just gave Mario Crystal Ball a new idea now.

Hey, coach, if we go for the tie, we'll win.

We'll be national champs.

Not ballsy enough.

We got to go for two

usually i'm not a fan of this kind of banter but this one's fair he would

tom osborne is remembered for going for two in that spot and it was absolutely the wrong move but

stupidly and stubbornly male because you want to point out to everyone i have balls but what i don't have is a championship yeah for that georgia tech wake forest i think it was the right move for that georgia tech wake forest game and uh look i'm a savvy veteran of uh the acc and its coastal division that is no longer around with us.

You can kill the coastal, but you cannot kill its spirit or the idea.

And the coastal comes for us all.

The second an ACC team without top end talent starts feeling himself, that's when you fade him.

Also, Dan, championships, yes, they live forever.

But you know what else lives forever?

Balls.

You go, that guy had balls.

He might be dead.

Might have a championship.

May not.

Doesn't matter.

Balls.

Oh, Lance Armstrong.

Ball.

Ball.

Yeah.

You know Ball, dude.

I do know his.

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Dan, Dan,

this weekend,

a familiar sound boomed across the landscape.

Can you hear it?

That unmistakable whine?

That uncontrollable sob?

Because just like that,

make no mistake, white people complaining about the Super Bowl halftime show is back.

Yes.

I had Patrick Mahomes.

Yes.

Two Louis.

Benito.

How many people are going to be like, I don't understand what he's saying?

Why doesn't he sing in English?

This is America.

Go back to Puerto Rico.

Oh, I can't wait for it.

I can't wait.

You know, the worst part is we have to wait months for that wine to finally come to a crescendo of absolute terror.

Undefeated NFL teams.

And then there were two.

Should have been three.

It's all your fault, Adonai Mitchell.

Adonai Mitchell dropped what would have been the touchdown catch of the year.

Then had a hold on what would have been the touchdown run of the year.

Afterwards, he said, it stings.

No shit, Sherlock.

Chiefs versus Ravens.

The rare must-win game.

Between two championship contenders who are both under 500.

That is rare.

How many people found out Cooper Rush was the backup in Baltimore yesterday?

Yep.

Well, I learned that real time, baby.

Me too.

Jackson Dart,

a star is born.

Why are there so many songs about rainbows?

What's on the other side?

Georgia Tech.

Winning in clutch fashion and somehow dropping in the rankings.

GD football

brought to you by the haters.

team of destiny

hey previously undefeated LA Chargers

you got a thort in your neck

they just took one in the jugular Dan

He punched someone he punched someone on a stiff arm the quarterback punched someone Zazzlo clutches pearls you all right it's enough with it stop boxing make a tackle

hey Tony

Hey, I mean.

Thank you.

You know what Jackson Dart has?

It.

That and balls.

Mark Cuban

praising Pablo's acting skills.

When I did the entire episode in wardrobe and character.

Disappointing.

Micah Parsons,

only one sack in his revenge game.

Disappointing.

Cowboys Packers ending in a tie on Sunday night.

Disappointing.

Top five disappointing things in sports.

Whoa.

OLI

games that end in ties.

OLI.

Revenge games that don't deliver.

OLI

sitting next to an especially obnoxious fan.

You know, you get to your seat and you're like, oh, I got to sit next to this guy.

Yeah, that's brutal.

It's always a guy.

Number five.

Always a guy, too.

Always a guy.

Always a guy.

Well, wait till a little bit of a bunch of people.

He's like a baseball lady, too, right?

She took the ball from the kid.

Yep.

Obnoxious fan.

Number five.

Games that are not available due to blackout rules.

Sit down, you're ready.

You're like, all right, let's watch this.

And they're like, no, not available in your area.

Disappointing.

Number four,

watching the game with an inquisitive casual.

You guys know what I'm talking about?

Yes.

Dad.

You reached the room on that one.

They all made faces.

So the yellow line, you have to go past it, but they don't see it.

Hey, son, any upsets in the league?

Shut up, dad.

Happy birthday to him.

Damn.

71st birthday.

I can't.

I'm just like that.

I'm not doing this upset thing.

Happy birthday to him.

I don't care.

Good luck.

Number three, most disappointing things in sports.

No Wi-Fi on your cross-country flight to watch the game.

Two better than that.

Just sit there in the proverbial dark wondering what happened.

Number two,

not being recognized for for your method acting during an investigative report on capture convention.

And the number one most disappointing thing in sports:

your parlay not covering because the jackass couldn't hold on to the ball.

Just cross the goddamn finish line.

Just hold on to it.

Why you got to hold it out?

Jags

took that ass.

Mets,

Typical.

Haynes King.

13th game with the passing and a rushing score.

He's fun, man.

Best rushing QB in the nation, Dan.

I don't think that's accurate.

Funnest, though.

Most guts and guile from a rushing quarterback, no doubt.

Hey, Mike.

You know what Haynes King has?

It.

That and balls.

Balls.

Haynes King.

NIL deal with Haynes underwear.

Collision course.

Look who we got our Haynes on now.

His balls.

Finders fee for me.

Wake Forest.

You take a shot at the king.

You best not miss.

That one goes out to Tom Haberstro, who had the gall to have a video edited and ready to drop as soon as he thought the upset would happen.

Wake Forest Proud, Haberstro.

Wake Forest Proud?

Yeah, he had to slink back into his little hole.

They haven't been any good since Riley Skinner, since my beloved Riley Skinner.

Not since Rusty LaRue threw like 400 yards in football and then dropped 40 on Georgia Tech in basketball.

One of the greatest one seasons of college sports I've ever seen in my life.

Minnesota Lynx head coach Cheryl Reeve

suspended for a quote, aggressively pursuing and verbally abusing a game official in the court and then failure to leave the court in a timely manner upon her ejection.

Not the quotes afterward.

Not the quotes afterward?

The quotes afterward were almost as bad as that.

Shame on the WNBA, Dan.

Suspension?

Playoffs?

Come on, man.

It was insane behavior.

It really was.

What's insane behavior?

Did you see her getting in fans' face and telling them to F off after the game?

Zaz.

Should she be fined?

Absolutely.

Reprimanded?

Absolutely.

Community service, whatever.

You can't suspend her

for a playoff game.

Yeah, you can.

An elimination game.

Yeah, you can.

Her behavior was ridiculous.

I've never seen that in the history of basketball on the pro level.

I can't speak to the other sports, but maybe you guys know.

Her playoff game?

Because she said mean things to the refs i mean she called for a change in leadership after the game that's what she did i thought that's what she was suspended for i thought that's what she was suspended for find her into a ground dig a hole and put fine money make her work for free for the rest of her life you cannot suspend her for that no not in the playoffs

here's a fun venn diagram

People who saw the latest episode of Peacemaker and thought to themselves, what a wonderful world that would be.

And people were complaining about a Super Bowl halftime show.

The people who watch Peacemaker will know what I'm talking about.

Geno Smith.

Seven INTs in four games.

He's been terrible.

Look what they did to my boy.

Damn.

Boy, Gino, man.

I don't think he has it anymore.

There's a ball.

well you have to throw seven int's definitely not playing scared

have you been half asleep

and have you heard voices

i've heard them calling my name

sean little of msg networks

unabashed bears fan

in the building for bears raiders

dressed like a doofus

while heckling what can only be described as janice from the muppets can we roll that video, please?

Of Sean dressed like a doofus, heckling what can only be described as Janice from the Muppets?

We go five, four,

three,

two.

I'm moving on.

Raiders.

You know what a mean has toss in a video during weekend observations?

Balls.

Yeah.

I do.

You know what else I have?

A text message saying, hey, can we have this uploaded?

I'm going to do this in weekend observations.

With a thumbs up.

There it is.

Hey, there it is.

There's Sean dressed like a doofus.

He's staring down, and you're like, who's he staring down?

And then we get a look at who he's talking to.

He said, it's getting spooky in here, is what he's saying, I believe.

And then there you go.

Janice from the Muppets.

That is perfect.

Wow,

that is a lot of head.

Incredible reference.

That is unreal.

I didn't know who exactly he was talking about until I saw the video.

And I'm like, surely I know the Muppet now.

Yeah.

Here you go audio audience.

You know Jennis is

Raiders

Worst home field advantage in the NFL

Dan calling Puka Nakua Poka Nakua

and nobody on the show catching him on it.

Allegedly.

We can misspeak

although you did just give Greg Cody a new song idea, the Poka Nakua.

Well Mike, Puka Nakua

is an LA Ram.

Polka Nakua

is Weird Al's favorite LA Ram.

We need to get in the lab.

All right, Hee Haw 3, you have been tasked with making the Polka Nakua.

Virginia fans rushing the field.

Making the Jamokes on the Lepatard show concerned.

Please.

Not all of us.

Only one of them.

Only one.

Football we've established.

Football for him.

I'm not going to apologize.

No balls.

Hey, Zaz.

Celtics fans rushing the court in the 80s would like a word.

I'd like a word with each and every one of them, too.

You let them know.

As scary as it must have been for Florida State players, being swarmed instantly by drunk college fans.

It doesn't hold a candle to Laker players.

Being swarmed instantly by drunk adult Boston fans.

Moments after being serenaded with the N-word for over two hours.

Dan!

a few weeks ago I asked you a question.

What do you reply to a GT alum who's asked you what's the good word?

I don't remember.

Do you remember?

No.

It's pretty easy Dan.

To hell with Georgia.

Speaking of hell, Art Bryles and the rest of them dogs, send them all down there.

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Don Lebatard.

Again, started on the breakfast flan.

Oh man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning long.

Breakfast flannel.

Stugats.

Have you never heard the breakfast flan song?

Hit me with that.

Okay.

I wish I had some breakfast flant.

Breakfast fun.

Where can I find a breakfast like that?

This is the Don Lebatar Show with these two guys.

It is a official block party.

We are going to take a block of South Florida and we are going to make it our own with our friends from Flanagans.

We have not done one of these in a while.

It may not be a good Monday night game, but it will be a good party because we enjoy those and Flanagans and our friends at Flanagans always do well by I can guarantee you it won't be a good Monday night.

It'll be a terrible Monday night game.

Because it's on a Thursday, TNF.

Okay, my fault.

Regardless, it's going to be bad football like tonight's Monday night football game.

Can you play the Polka Nakua song or the inspiration for what will be the Polka Nakua song, please?

That's a really bad lyric.

Amin, I've got some basketball questions for you as basketball opens.

What do you think is going to happen with the Clippers today now

that Pablo has dropped another Pablo on them?

Tom Haberstro has some good ideas here, doesn't he?

So, Tom Haberstro has the most brilliant idea the the Clippers should do.

Obviously, it would look very, very much like an admission of guilt, right?

But what Tom suggested was, you know, you're probably going to lose picks over this.

So, why don't you just trade those picks right now?

They've got two first-round picks that they can trade plus a pick swap.

If they do it right now, go all in on someone like Zion or whatever, then the league can't dock them for those picks.

Yeah, like you just got to have to keep waiting.

So, this is the time their picks have value for a limited amount of time.

And obviously, once they get traded, the team that acquires them can't be like, hey, NBA, that's messed up.

You can't take the picks away from us.

We're the ones.

We gave up a player for that.

If I'm the Clippers, full throttle.

Go ahead, go get somebody.

What do you want to hear today?

What do you think that media day is going to be like?

A lot of no comments, a lot of boring answers.

Look, they've learned their lesson because over the course of this, and you noticed this earlier in the show, Dan, they used to be real bold with their responses.

Provably false was the first thing they ever said when these allegations were presented to them.

And as time goes by, they get meeker.

And now it's like this whole victim.

We got scammed, even though he donated $1.8 million to the scammers charity like in December of 2020.

They have completely curled up into a ball, into the fetal position, and trying to protect themselves by any means necessary.

I'd be shocked if the marching orders for everybody in Clippers Media Day today wasn't either no comment or the NBA is investigating this, so we're going to have comment when that investigation is complete.

Right now on my screen, Cam Newton in an absurd hat with his tie tied poorly is arguing whether he's more concerned about A.J.

Brown or Saquon right now.

They've won 20 of 21.

Like,

how could you possibly find concern for the Eagles?

Like, they're on a run that's dynastic that hasn't been in the sport in 20 years since the Patriots were out there.

Goodbye, Flanagans Cup.

It was a pleasure seeing you.

We are a big fan of all things Flanagans around here.

And Roy, I'd like you to also please give out that information again on what that watch party is, what that block party is, because I want people to have correct information.

on what it is that Flanagans is going to be able to provide for people to be a part of, because we are going to pay for somebody to be at this party with us.

Yeah, it's a Halloween blog party.

It's going to be at the Flanagans on Kendall Drive and Southwest 120 27th Avenue on October 30th.

That's Thursday night football dolphins versus Ravens.

You can win $1,000 in Flanagans costume contest as well.

So we will all be there.

Deep in the heart of what A-Rod called the hood.

That's an absolute home game for me and Mike.

Home game.

By the way,

Amin, I wanted to bring something to your attention.

I want to start something with you every time you come on the show.

I want to call it 20 CB Hall of Fame.

Uh-huh.

So I'm going to bring you a idea, a concept, something from the 20s, from the 20th century.

And I want you to say Hall of Fame or not Hall of Fame.

And I'll get to the movie further down.

I'm going to spice this up.

It just had the idea just occurred to me right now.

Amin, 20 CB Hall of Fame, Mimes.

Ooh, okay, here in America, Hall of Famer for sure.

In Europe, alive and well, baby.

Still?

They are still active.

Really?

You know, you got to retire to be in the Hall of Fame, and they still out there, man.

They still playing home games in Paris and London and Rome.

And they're putting up numbers.

The European tour for the Mimes are still around.

So who are the Mimes for?

What's the demo who's like, you know what?

I like this.

It's cultural.

It's cultural.

It's for tourists.

Like, if you're, especially in France, where we can all agree this is the mime hub, put it on the poll.

Is France the Mime Hub?

But you know how this green cup from Flanagans is cultural to Miami?

That's what mimes are for France.

Mike, you know this?

They like to do, instead of the regular mimes that are just in black and white and doing the I'm in a box thing, the Paris ones like to spray paint themselves like in metallic paint and then act like robots.

And then you put on give them money and they go,

and that's it.

And then they'll hold this pose until someone gives them more money.

Adam Silver's talking European expansion ostensibly so that they can have more mimes in their life because they're kind of endangered here.

What do you make of that?

I mean, are you pro basketball NBA European expansion?

Well, then a lot of people have been complaining, why is Adam Silver talking about you?

No one wants European expansion.

We want expansion here in North America.

We want 32 teams.

And the reason why we're probably, if we're going to get expansion, it's a long time from now, is because when you talk about expansion here, you're telling 30 NBA owners, hey.

You guys want to take this pizza pie and divide it up into 32 slices now?

To which most of them say, hell no, I like my slice.

I don't want a smaller slice.

But when you talk about NBA Europe, we keep our same slices and now we're adding a new pie that we're dividing up 30 ways or 40 ways or however many ways.

It's extra money versus reliving up the money we already have, which is why Adam Silver is always beating that drum.

It's a drum that he inherited from David Stern.

David Stern was very big on European expansion.

They love to point out, hey, it's the same from London to New York as it is from New York to LA.

All that stuff is

just

because they want to get a foothold on the continent and be the premier league there as well as the one that they're running here.

What do you make about early conjecture and reports about what that might look like?

A handful of franchises that are basically made out of thin air, which may look like a traditional NBA model, but then also leaving room for some of the established brands out there in Europe to play their way into this.

Mike, the plan is to have those established brands.

They want Real Madrid.

They want Barcelona.

They want Finerbachi.

They want Olympialcos and Panthonaikos.

They want those tentpole organizations that right now are in a multi-year deal with IMG that handles all the marketing and business for the EuroLeague.

But make no mistake, the NBA wants those blue bloods involved, and then they can fill in with either smaller existing clubs, maybe some of the ones in Germany and Italy, or...

Like you said, ones from Thin Air.

But again, the league is more about expanding the brand than it is literally adding more teams.

I mean, what do you hear about LeBron trying to start a league out in Europe?

Yeah, so it's not LeBron.

I've talked about this with Dan before.

It's Maverick Carter.

And we have to, as adults, be able to separate between when one friend does another thing.

It's like Zazzlo Show 2.0 being on the podcast on the Metal Arc Network and people saying to me, hey, I mean, or Dan, hey, great job with the Zaszlo show.

I was like, no, no, that's not me.

That's Jonathan Zaszlo who's doing that.

So

having said that,

Maverick Carter and the people he's involved with have some interest from deep pockets in the Middle East.

And we know those pockets are endless.

They have lots of money to spend and they don't know what to do with it.

And so this is a nice idea as far as starting a new professional league.

I believe there's room for it.

But Zaz, will it rival the NBA?

Absolutely not because you just have a

70-year plus head start, plus all the money and all the sponsorships and all the talent.

And no one wants to grow up here thinking about, ooh, one day I'll be playing for the Riyadh

Red Dragons or whatever.

30 seconds or less.

What's going on with Cinephobe?

What are you doing this week?

Oh, Dan, we're doing a fan favorite this week.

We're doing Pootie Tang.

Right?

The Chris Rock show segment that expanded into a full movie, which was, by the way, written and directed by Dan.

Do you know who wrote and directed Pootie Tang?

I do not.

I know that Bob Costas was in it, but Zaszlo knows.

Louis C.K.

Yeah.

Louis C.K.

wrote and directed Pootie Tang.

I saw that movie in the theaters.

Me too.

Your movie theater sells pickles.

See you later.

I mean, good talking to you.

How much do they cost?

Yo, it's $2.99, Dolly.

That's a good deal.

That's a good deal.

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