Hour 2: The One Man Show (feat. John Tesh)

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Oh, look at him.

He's in studio.

The ultimate renaissance man is joining us.

He's a six-time Emmy Award winner.

He's a two-time Grammy nominee.

He gives us free music.

He just makes so much music that he just gives away the rights to stuff.

And after more than 20 years away from releasing original music, he has returned with a new album.

Mike, you're going to love this.

You know

what the title of the album is?

No, tell me.

Sports.

Whoa.

Just sports.

He sounds like sports.

Yeah, that Huey Lewis lawsuit is coming.

This album features two versions of Round Ball Rock.

I can't get enough versions of Round Ball Rock.

I don't know if he'll give us both versions because he just gave away the last time.

He's been on with us a couple of times, and he just called his answering machine one time when feeling inspired, left the sound, and then it becomes something that's enduring.

So thank you, John Tesh, for joining us as NBC returns to basketball.

Basketball returns to NBC after how many many days has it been?

About 9,000 days.

Thank you for joining us from your studio.

This suggests to me that we're going to get a lot.

What an honor this is.

Are you shitting me?

Are we going to get a live version of you giving us both versions of Round Ball Rock?

Are we going to hear just stuff from sports right now?

Whatever you want.

Whatever you want.

And the thank you is to you guys because when we did that, when you debuted the shredded version, it blew up everywhere on X and everything.

It was crazy.

And so I appreciate appreciate you guys.

And we appreciate you.

So which of these versions do you like best?

Are you allowed to have a favorite here or do you just make the stuff and let other people decide?

I just make the stuff and let Rick Cordella over at NBC decide.

And it was like a year ago that we started talking about this.

Do you realize that?

It's crazy.

We now have, it feels like, how long, Roy, do you know how long our relationship with John Tesh has gone here?

Because it feels like like we have been talking about this with him for the better part of 10 years.

Yeah, back when we were at ESPN.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

He gave us rights forever.

You have the rights.

You have the rights.

Well, you know, and the most amazing thing to me is when you look back, it's been 35 years since the song was written.

So

all I can say is supernatural and the fans did it, not me, you know?

John, when it's basketball season, there are two things that come out.

Your original performance where you have a very blousy shirt on, and Jason Sadegas and Tim Robinson's version of Baba Ba Ba Baba Ba Basketball.

And I'm curious if this happens to you every time basketball is about to tip off.

Do you see those two videos all the time?

Yeah, all the time.

And, you know, I used to be on Entertainment Tonight for 10 years for people who don't remember that because it was so long ago.

But I used, when I would walk through airports, I would hear people go,

and now it's definitely Bubba Baba Baba Ba Basketball.

And when it was announced that the theme was coming back, a lot of folks said, no, I prefer the lyrics first version.

So if folks haven't seen that,

it's definitely on

YouTube.

The only thing you need, by the way, I'm going to teach you guys how to play a sports theme.

Are you ready?

Yes.

Okay.

The only thing you need is this sound right here, okay?

And this is a sound from the 1980s blended with a little bit of piano.

And it's this sound like your

sports.

Gooseys.

That's all you need.

That's all you got.

Just do anything, and it's a sports theme.

I have so many questions for him, and I can't wait to go on this magical musical journey with him.

But do you prefer, if you have to have a preference, do you prefer to be recognized as the host of Entertainment Tonight or the guy who wrote the NBA on NBC theme?

Yeah, I'll take them both.

I'll take them both, definitely.

But I mean, my...

Not how the game is.

The whole music thing for me, it exists only because of Al Michaels' brother, David Michaels, producer at CBS Sports when I was hired there in 1982.

And the two of us were hired to cover the Tour de France bike race.

And David said, hey, I know you're a musician.

Why don't we ship all of your stuff over here to France and you can do the music while I edit the footage.

And so it was a lot of stuff.

And this is a song called Legendary, is

which is on the record, but it was for

Greg Lamont.

You know, it's just like a

heroic

march, you know.

So a lot of that stuff

was what I started with.

And in the middle of a Tour de France coverage was when Round Ball Rock was written.

Have you ever done video game music?

I feel like you'd kill it with like video games from the 1990s.

Yeah, I would love to.

I would love to.

Well, I mean, there's a song called

Chasing Gold, which goes like this.

And then in the middle of it, it breaks down.

And the song sounds like this.

So it's just, you know, like galloping and then that sound that I'm going to send you.

That thing.

That studio is magical.

How often do you just go down there to

blow off steam?

Oh, I'm this is where I do the rate.

My radio show, too.

I never leave this position.

I can move over there and

I love it.

It's my space.

But you know, my wife, Connie, you know, you know, Connie, Connie Selica, yeah, she it's really funny because her office is right next to us in the house here, my house.

And she'll, she'll, when I was working on sports, she would walk by and she'd she'd hear, you know, she'd hear like, you know,

And she'd go, football.

But I'd be playing, you know.

And I hear hockey.

And then I'd do something else.

And she'd go, nope.

My wife hates how operatic all the football music is.

She thinks it's.

Oh, come on.

It has to be so big.

So that's really what this,

just a shameless plug here.

That's really what this record is.

It's just, it's 11 new themes.

And what I did,

guys, was while I was writing them, I get like get like halfway through and I'd go in the backyard and get the battle ropes out and see if the tempos were right.

And so it really is a workout record.

I mean, this is technically unbelievable.

Not only is he doing an interview with us, not only is he playing his own music, he's also in charge of his own graphics.

I wasn't sure if you had the album cover.

Incredible.

He's a one-man show.

He knows how to make a lot of different kinds of things.

Why is it that you decided after 20 years to do sports as your re-entry point on musical inspiration?

It really was.

I mean, you guys were a part of it with me

when NBC decided to bring the theme back.

And my son Gibb, who

is great, great musician and an actor, and he just said, I'm a grandpa, so he calls me Pop-Up.

He said, Pop-Up, you know, I never see you happier than when you're in that studio or when you're on stage.

And we took a 20-year break.

I took a 20-year break from writing music because we were touring all the time.

And then, you know, when all the excitement happened with Round Ball Rock, I just said, you know,

that's what I love most to write is sports music.

And so I got back in the studio, worked with,

wrote a bunch of songs, worked with my friend Timothy Heinz, who's another great composer.

And you know, the shredded version, all of that is really from Andrew Sinewick.

He's this kid who is really Hendrix reborn, you know.

And so we just got in there.

And so it's not, none of this could be produced by AI.

You know, a lot of people talk about, oh, music, we can make music with AI.

It's all live musicians, you know.

Just a great drummer, Tim Landers, the great bass player who's also played with Jethro Tell.

And so when you listen to the record, there's a lot of stuff that comes back to my, that quotes a lot of my favorites, which is, you know, yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Rush, you know, all of that stuff.

This is not an album that you can relax to.

This is an album that you guys can pick up your guitars and play to.

We're going to get both versions, but the NBA returns to NBC after it's exactly 8,532 days.

It's a doubleheader, Rockets at Thunder and Warriors at Lakers.

Are you going to be playing Round Ball Rock Live anywhere during this unleashing?

Oh, yeah.

Yes.

We are, we'll be on the Today show on October 21st, the day that the theme comes back.

I would love to play it a game.

We haven't worked that out yet, but that would be a lot of fun.

Well, Billy will put in a call.

We need to do that for you.

That's awesome.

And I got plugs at the NBA.

As you can see, I'm wearing my Billie Eilish NBA collection here.

Complex, they sent me this.

So I'll make a call to Complex or the NBA or Mickey Harrison across the street.

We'll get you on that court, John.

Don't you worry.

That's cool.

I don't have the OG version loaded up here, but I have the shredded version, which I know you guys love.

All right, let's do that.

We're going to do it.

But I have to tell you, too, if you have a second,

when I heard the theme was coming back, remember we talked about this and I said, hey, I want to freshen it up, right?

Do that thing?

So we went to Nashville

where

this great recording studio, Ocean Way, with a full orchestra.

And we did the orchestral version of the song, mixed it all up, and then we put it on Instagram and everything.

And people were like, nope.

No, we want the OG version.

So the version you're going to hear come back on October 21st is actually the demo that was done in 1989.

I mean, you know, the whole story where I did it on the answering machine, not that, not kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, kick, but the first, the first diversion that we did.

Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-basketball.

That's what you were doing.

For those who don't remember the original story, you were in Europe, I think, right?

And you called your own answering machine just?

Yeah, I was, yeah, good memory.

I was in Majev, France, covering the tour.

And I heard through the sports grapevine that NBC had taken the coverage away from CBS, who had had it for years.

Same thing that's happened just now,

except it's a bigger deal now that they made with the NBA, obviously.

And so I thought, well, what would that sound like?

What a sports theme.

And nobody knew me as a musician.

I thought, if I could just get something like this, I'd be talking to

Dan LeBatard.

And so

I got the idea in the middle of the night, and I didn't have a keyboard.

I didn't have a computer, nothing, a computer, nothing.

And so I called my answering machine.

Yeah, anyway, anyway, kick, kink, kink, kick, kink, kink, kink, kink, kick, kick, kink, kink, and then, and then, uh, you know, it hung up on me, uh, the answering machine.

And then, you know, I call back, here's the rest of it, you know, kick, kick, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink.

And two weeks later, I came home to New York and I checked my messages.

As usual, I only had two

because I was that popular.

And I put it on the piano and I went, let's see, you know,

the first message, you know, kick, kick, kink, kink, kink, kink, kink, king.

Kick it, kink, kink, kink, kink.

And, you know, the real key in this song is this section.

Because that's when Marv can go, today, you know,

and then

at the end of the song, it's just pads, so they can go,

brought to you by Geico, Macy's.

And I think knowing that, knowing all of the sections

that a sports section had to have, and having it fully formed and sending it to Terry O'Neill and Tommy Roy and

Dick Eberstall and all those guys, they were able to actually see it and understand that

that's where all those sections, all those announcing sections would go.

So it's really, I mean, the key of the song is really only like eight notes that people don't remember.

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John, do you miss organs at sporting events?

I don't know what happened to them.

They just kind of disappeared slowly.

Are they not around anymore?

I didn't even know that.

No, some of them, it's just like pre-recorded things.

It got rid of the organists.

Now we have like, you know, races in between.

Yankee Stadium doesn't have an organist.

Yankee Stadium doesn't have an organist anymore.

They canceled all of that.

I feel like they still do that there.

Do you have a matchup that comes to mind when you hear Round Ball Rock playing, John?

Well, it was

in the first game in 1990, and it was San Antonio, and I think they were playing the Lakers.

But I knew that

the, it's a great question because the story is hilarious.

I, I, uh, I knew the song was going to, I was on the road somewhere, and I knew the song was going to play for the very first time on television.

So I found a sports bar, and I was by myself on the road, went in the sports bar with all the

TVs, you know, tiny TVs back then.

And the bar is full and people are watching.

All of a sudden, you know,

it had the,

it was,

it had like the big, the big opening, you know, that comes up with the, with the, um, with the peacock.

And it was great, you know, and I'm just dying there.

And, and, uh, and then the song, and then the song comes in,

right?

And then it keeps going.

And it plays after a couple of different breaks going into commercial.

And I finally couldn't take it anymore.

And I said to the bartender, I said, hey, do you hear that song?

And he's like,

yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I go, I wrote that song

like a jerk, right?

And he goes, that's great.

You want another beer?

I was expecting like a trophy or something.

I don't know.

But it was just so sad.

I was like, okay.

So you're the guy that wrote the song.

That's fantastic.

I'm watching basketball.

Can you let me alone?

And I'm a bartender.

Well, a bartender has heard so many stories like that that aren't true from people.

I finally have the answer.

Thank God.

I had no idea.

Do you have, give me a number to this question.

The number of times in your life that you have called your answering machine and done something like that with round ball.

Oh my gosh.

It's now, you know, it's now this, of course, but before this came out, before the phone came out, yeah.

I mean, I've got stuff that's so bad on there.

You know, it's like, hey,

nothing like round ball.

It was definitely encouragement to keep doing that.

Do you have a favorite sports theme that's not yours that you say, God, I wish I had done that?

Yeah, and I'll bet it's yours too.

Monday Night Football.

It's a good one.

I love that thing.

Yeah, I really.

And do you know a story about that?

That was actually in a...

Do you remember production CDs where you would buy a collection of like a musician composer would write a whole bunch of songs then we'd go into this production set and you'd buy it for like a thousand dollars you know like editing studios production houses and and the music was free as long as as long as they paid for that uh you know for the original price and nbc found that cut and they put it on monday night football and it became it's called heavy action and it became that theme you know bam bam bam bam bam bum bam bum bum bum back then they had just one monday night game now they're throwing two out there and they've cheapened the whole product by throwing two of these.

There was one song, one game.

Now,

yeah, yeah.

I like the Fox football team theme, too.

I think that's good.

Yeah.

Which is your favorite of the other songs on the new album, Sports?

And I know I keep asking you for preferences because you didn't answer my question on which you like better being associated with entertainment tonight.

If I forced you to choose one, or

oh, music, for music, for sure.

Yeah, yeah, music, for sure.

I mean, it was and live, live music.

There's nothing like being on a stage with an orchestra with no net, you know, no way to fix anything.

You're going to do something for us live right now that escalates to crescendo all the things that we've built in our relationship with you that makes this song the monster that it is.

Because

you have to be honored that this has the echoing, enduring staying power to be brought back to life again.

Like, you must be excited about what NBC is about to do with you and this song.

I just, I got excited just now, just listening to your great vocabulary.

It's just cool, man.

Like it's, you, you're talking about a time you just said to us, like, you were, your fame as someone who was a part of a very big television show in America was confining compared to you being able to celebrate your biggest inspirations here, which is to be moved musically, I would think, artistically.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's definitely a different feeling.

And it's, especially when you think about the fact that a song can

be created 35 years ago, go on the shelf, and then YouTube picks it back up.

People learn how to play it, right?

And then Jason Sudekis and the guys at Saturday Night Live do the spoof, and it comes back.

You know, I think I may have told you the story where when they did that spoof, I was in Los Angeles and SNL

came on with that bit, and I didn't know what was going on.

I was just getting texts from all my friends, Are you okay with this?

Are you okay with this?

Oh my gosh, are you going to sue?

Oh my gosh, are you okay with this?

Oh, I can't believe this.

And I'm thinking, what?

And so they go watch Saturday Night Live.

So my wife, Connie, and I watched the bit, and she turns to me and she goes, it's the best thing that's ever happened to you.

She was right.

Were you unsure how to feel about it at that point?

Or were you still in any way confused?

No, I thought it was great.

The best thing for me, and I ran into Vince Vaughan out here in Los Angeles in a buffet line, you know, like 20 years

after that.

And he thought it was hilarious, too.

But no, because I mean, those guys, they were dressed exactly like me, had the same vest that I had at Avalon when

it was recorded, and also same hairdo, you know, all of it.

And even Snekis was doing my voice.

Here's a solo I wrote on my answering machine back.

So no,

it was great.

I want to play

what the video just showed there, which is Tony and Lewis rocking out to the last time John Tesh was on with us.

I don't know, does this have an audio accompaniment or should we just play this while John Tesh?

All right, let's just run that while John Tesh does his version.

We're going to do the shredded version here that is on sports.

And I just wanted to get an answer to my question: Is there a second place song on this album that is your favorite next to the shredded round ball rock version?

Yeah, I would say the one that I was doing, you know, you know, legendary, you know, legendary.

That thing, you know,

which

when it's fully formed, it sounds like this, you know.

okay get ready key change

Right?

So big, so wonderful Abrupt ending.

Good.

Yeah, an abrupt ending.

Is that how it goes on the track?

Sorry.

No, no.

I was jamming, man.

I wasn't sure.

I was sure how much time you should fade that puppy down.

I wasn't sure how much time you had.

We were getting moved.

We were starting to physically move with you, but now is the time.

Let's break out what NBC is going to break out again.

This is the shredded version.

It is one of two versions.

I'm going to say it's the best version because it's our version, the one that he shared with us.

So, John Tesh, what an honor to have you do this for us.

Thank you.

Yes,

that is

Peak October.

Peacock October.

I see

it, Ann.

Peacocktober.

October 21st, a double header.

The NBC is back on NBC and Peacock.

Check out the John Tesh podcast and more at tesh.com.

It is really nice that you keep doing this for us, wasting your time.

And we hope that the sports album is a monster hit.

Thank you, John, for being on with us.

We love you guys.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate you.

Look at how happy the group is.

He brings just energy with him here.

You guys should find for me, I remember being introduced to, you have to realize how shocking this was to me.

I know him only as the Entertainment Tonight host, and then suddenly I see a video of him performing live on stage, and he's a rock star, and he's a ball of energy, but I had only seen him sort of polished on television, and so I didn't even know this part of his personality existed.

Yeah, you and I had the same experience with that, but it's an insulting question to a musician.

Like,

what are you prouder of being known for?

Entertainment Tonight or the music.

He's got bona fides.

He also does

overnight DJing, nationally syndicated show.

The music was a pathway to all the other things.

I'm sure he gets a little insulted by your question.

I mean, I can imagine you felt, Dan, the way that uh heat fans feel when they watch me just crush parody songs over here.

They're like, wow, that guy who's a broadcaster over there just rocking out as a musician.

I mean, gosh, me and John Tesh.

What are you prouder to be known for?

Hoisting babies.

Yeah, that was a good one.

I mean, come on.

I think if I can only give Jeremy one, if I can only give, hey, you get to do only one for the foreseeable future, broadcasting or music.

I mean, I win Emmys versus losing Sueys.

It's really not that hard when you give it a thought.

Yeah, but one he hasn't accomplished.

I mean, I'd say he's a failure on radio because

it's Suey.

We'll figure that one out.

Can you guys find for me the video before we go to Tony?

I just want you to see what I saw.

Because I'm assuming much of the audience doesn't know John Tesh's musical career.

He's 73 years old.

I'm guessing a whole lot of people don't know what he is as a musician.

But I want to point out to the audience how shocking it was to see the guy I only knew as this is the host of Entertainment Tonight, which at the time, guys, I don't know how to, Jeremy, help me quantify what this man's career was just on television because I didn't know he was a musician.

And so to me, this was as comically absurd as suddenly seeing i don't know al michaels can really go and play the piano in a way that you know he's wearing a vest and he is just going to uh make you very excited with how much energy he has it was just a weird thing to witness john tesh be great at controlling a crowd on his finger with the piano given that i just knew him was he with mary heart uh was entertainment tonight was one of the most popular programs in america at the time i don't know how you'd quantify it How about that time in the 90s where we're like, we gotta do something about these neckties?

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How about that?

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When we hang out, and we hang out often, we're friends.

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With Miller Light.

That's right, Miller Light.

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How beautiful is that?

Is that you doing the sound of a can opening?

Is that your favorite sound?

Um, no, it is a horsey.

A horsey?

All right, we'll stop doing that.

And here's a kicker.

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That's right.

And still hitting different five decades later.

You're so good at this, Rose.

I know.

So whatever your game day looks like, remember, Miller time is always a good time.

Look at us.

We're a great tag team.

High five again.

Can you do that beer sound one more time?

and the horse sound one more time.

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Don Lebatard.

To us, residents.

Oh, Wow.

That's pretty much it.

Think I haven't been practicing?

Stugats.

Oh,

I didn't realize we had a substitute complicated legacy choice.

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Second down in nine.

This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Get me some information on entertainment tonight at your leisure.

Let's go out to Tony here.

Tony has been waiting patiently for more than an hour to get to his show.

Hurry, get him information on entertainment tonight at your leisure.

I always confused him with the actor that played the butler in American Wedding.

I'll send a picture.

Is that the information you're gathering on Entertainment Tonight?

Well, he also

won an Associated Press Award for Investigative Journalism.

So there's that side before Entertainment Tonight.

What was a wait, for which show?

I'll get to that in a second.

He's a journalist.

Tony is dressed up and ready for his top five.

He looks a little bored.

He looks like he might be mad at us because he's been waiting for an hour.

Tony, tell us where you are, what you're doing, and what we have in store for us right now.

Dan, we have the top five in store.

I'm not bored.

I'm just here listening to the show.

Not mad at all whatsoever.

I'm actually very relaxed.

We just finished a nice therapy session with Genesis and about to get into the hot tub here at the Elser, which is the first time that we do Tony's Top 5 from the Elser hot tub, which is going to be very exciting.

Hold this for a second.

Oh, beefcake.

We got a shirt.

Oh, look, he ripped it off Hulk Hogan style.

While he does that, let me tell the people this Tony Top 5 is presented by Smirnoff, the official vodka sponsor of the National Football League.

Smirnoff, please drink responsibly.

The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York, 40% alcohol by volume.

Roy, why are you shaking your head at Tony right now?

What are you doing, man?

Why are we ripping off the shirt for?

Just take the shirt off.

What do you mean?

What does that mean?

All right, Dan, I was going to start in the OLI.

I was going to start in the OLI, but I actually wanted to dedicate the entire OLI to Benoit Blanc.

Again, no OLI.

I'm going to just talk about Benoit Blanc as the greatest detective of all time.

And if you remember in Glass Onion, when he goes over to Miles Braun's house, Miles Braun, obviously the eccentric billionaire, who spoiler alert, we find out is a fool.

He finds the dinner party mystery, finds it out in like 10 seconds.

He's like, yeah, this is what happened.

You got killed by this arrow and this, that, and the other.

and then ends up solving the other mystery, too.

So, Benjamin Bach is probably the best detective of all time.

That's my OLI.

But that's not what we were doing.

We were doing top five.

He did great.

Football observations.

That's your OLI.

Number five.

That's fine, but that's my OLI.

Because number five, honestly, are there any good teams in the NFL?

Just asking.

Are there any good teams?

I feel like there's no.

I feel like everybody's back.

Especially after the Bills performance yesterday.

Where have you been?

But we thought the Bills were good.

What do you mean, where have I been?

Billy,

Billy doesn't like your first one.

He made a face of great disgust.

I was in the CD half an hour ago.

My bad.

I've been here for two hours waiting, so maybe I didn't hear that part.

I told you he was pissed off.

I told you.

He pretended like he wasn't.

I told you he was pissed off.

Two hours doing nothing.

You can step into the studio, help out a little bit.

Jerry Bear doesn't have to come in on his day off.

You know what I mean?

Hanging out in a hot tub all day.

I got to stand on my mark.

This is actually the first time I jump into the hot tub, by the way.

I've been outside of it waiting.

Number four.

At this point, I just feel bad for Kyle Shanahan.

Yeah, I'm with him on this.

Rossini did that one, too.

What else can he do?

Did Diana Rossini talk about that too?

Billy, did you feel bad about Kyle Shanahan earlier?

I did, actually.

It was weird.

Okay, all right.

Number three.

Touche.

Number three, just like we had it through a third of the NFL season, the Seahawks and the Colts are the best team in football.

Somebody's got to be good, Dan, and it seems to be the Seahawks and the Colts.

Wait a minute, what does that make the Bucs who won at Seattle?

It makes them also good, but I think the Seahawks may be better, even though they lost.

Again, quality loss better than a good win.

Jeremy Tashay.

This is not college football.

This guy gets it.

Thank you.

Number two.

Number two, Dan.

Kyler Murray fans cover your ears.

Jacoby Brissette threw for 320 yards and two touchdowns on Sunday.

The last time Kyler Murray did that was 34 games ago.

Three years ago, week eight, 2022, and that's according to Pat Thoreman.

So the last time Kyler Murray threw for 320 yards and two touchdowns was 34 games ago, three years ago.

That was good.

In 2022, Jacoby Brissette was off the couch.

And threw for 320.

That's a good one.

And put it on the poll, please, at Lebatard Show.

Is Jacoby Brissette always going to be available for one last job?

Yes or no?

And number one, Tony.

Number one, Dan, the Chiefs are kind of MFing back.

We talked about them being a dink and dunk offense.

We talked about them being an offense that didn't mirror the offenses of Chiefs lore.

And I got another little stat here for you.

Through week six, so the last third of the season, they're at a 10.5%

explosive play rate through the first six weeks.

So 10.5%.

The Packers are the leaders with 14%.

So as you can see, they're starting to climb up the rankings in explosive play rate.

So it feels like they're MFing back, Dan.

And that's Tony's top five.

I'm going to chill here in the pool for a little bit longer.

Can I skip the meeting or do I have to go down to that?

It looks pretty good.

It looks like you're pretty comfortable.

You're also more confident in your nipples than I would be.

Okay.

Then you would be with your nipples or you would be with Tony's nipples.

With whose nipples, Dan?

Yeah.

Thank you, Tony.

We appreciate it.

I want to leave that up for interpretation.

Wait a second.

Wait a second.

Answer the question.

You're very happy to be showing a lot of nipple.

You ripped off your shirt.

You confidently showed a lot of nipple.

And I was surprised at how confident you were about that.

That's all.

Because your nipples, the last time I saw nipples like that, Mike Ryan was accused of pepperoni nipples and then never again talked about or showed his nipples on the program.

Okay, well, again, to each his own.

If Mike feels a certain way, he feels a certain way.

This is how God made me, baby.

What do you want me to do?

Okay.

Let me out of this.

Okay.

Thank you, Tony.

I appreciate it.

We appreciate it.

The two plays from last night's game I wanted to talk about because I don't know what to do with that Chicago, Washington game, although Washington would have won it if they could have just executed a handoff.

Like that part, the margins in these games are so absurd because Washington's an eh today on their a good team, right?

Washington, you're going to do the eh on their a good team, and it's because they couldn't execute a handoff in that game and then allowed Chicago a field goal position at the end of the game when all Chicago could do in that game was score with field goals.

Terry, Scary Terry's a big part of their offense.

Debo came into that game hurt, but Debo's also entered games hurt for five years.

You say came into games hurt, man.

We can't do the measurements on any of these people halfway through the scene.

You've seen the quality of football drop.

Like, it's dropped because you're seeing a bunch of backups everywhere.

Now, maybe not in Tampa, where somehow they keep doing it, but San Francisco is a lesser team and available to be slaughtered like that by Tampa because that's not a recognizable 49ers team.

That is not the 49ers team that got to a Super Bowl with Garoppolo.

That is not the 49ers team that can do anything with any quarterback when you can't sustain that many injuries and be a replica of yourself.

The backup quarterback's injured, very injured, visibly injured.

The funny thing about this season, as Jennings gets hurt seemingly every play, as Kittle's out, as Bose is out, as now Fred Warner is out, is Christian McCaffrey is going to get north of 400 touches on offense this year.

I cannot imagine how all of those 49ers feel physically or who feels worse when that game is running through them as if you're throwing them in the wood chipper in Fargo.

Like, it's just running through their bodies.

But the game I wanted to talk about, because...

Juju told us before anybody, hey, my bills are a fraud.

They haven't beaten anybody.

The teams they've beaten at the 4-0 against are a combined 3-21, and they barely won that one against Baltimore.

And the Dolphins game was sneaky close.

Well, and the Saints game was close.

Like,

they have not actually shown you much of anything.

And last night to me was particularly alarming because their quarterback can't look like who I've, the MVP, when his wide receivers seem limited and are also injured because they have injuries all over the field.

One last note.

Jawan Jennings, who got hurt every play in that game and has been hurt all year, he felt like he needed to start because of all the injuries.

I didn't highlight Ricky Pierce hall.

Here's what Jawan Jennings was playing with according to Jawan Jennings himself.

This is what he told reporters.

He was playing with five broken ribs, a high ankle sprain, and a low ankle sprain.

So the that's just an ankle sprain, right?

At some point.

The inability

to that is it so if it's a high ankle what if they're on different feet then it's a Howard Bryant situation.

Oh that's true.

Well, it's not a high ankle sprain and a low ankle sprain on the same foot, right?

It's a high ankle sprain on one foot.

She never clarified.

So I think one ankle's a high, the other ankle's a low.

Got five broken ribs.

Oh, geez.

No.

We're not even halfway through the season.

A bunch of the teams are broken.

We don't know who's any good.

We don't.

And it's impossible to do the measurements this way.

And everyone's ready to go ahead and make the Chiefs good again after two games, even though we made the Bills good after two games.

You're not ready.

You killed them.

We We made the Eagles good after two games.

No, the Super Bowl made the Eagles good.

But the last two games, they're now bad.

The last two games, they are dysfunctional.

They have all sorts of problems with A.J.

Brown and Saquon Barkley, and they can't generate offense in the last two games.

They've got more three and outs than everyone in the league.

But going back to last night's game, again, Bijan Robinson, the physics of that defied me on the 81-year-old, 81-yard run, where defender's got an angle.

Defender has the sideline.

Defender cannot knock him off his track because his lower body is too strong.

But also, Drake London in that game, Drake London's exceptional.

He's a legitimate number one receiver in a way that surprises me.

The end of that first half where they've got six seconds left and Drake London has to make a decision between can I get to the end zone or am I going to lose the chance to get a field goal?

They could have lost the game.

In fact, I would say the Bills came.

I would say the Bills could have won that game if simply Pennix made the throw that should have been returned 80 yards for a touchdown and the linebacker just dropped it.

Like, it would have been a clean path, pick six, ties the game 21-21.

And we would have been talking about whether Drake London did the right thing at the end of the first half, where he cost them a field goal because he couldn't get to the end zone by half a yard.

Fowler was brilliant on that call, too.

That was a lot of information he had to share with the audience, so they knew the situation, and it made it super captivating, despite me wishing Chris Fowler would occasionally say no to one of these.

Come on, dude.

It's so gravelly.

His voice hasn't gotten better in two weeks.

Because he's doing doing seven games a week.

Fighting through.

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