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Why are you listening to this show?

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He has no functioning hamstrings.

Baker Mayfield will win without him.

Doesn't need him in any way, even though he is great.

The things happening with Baker Mayfield are a little bit puzzling to me.

Yesterday on the show, I said no two people in human history would have tackled him on that third and 14

first down run because he was going to get that first down by lowering his shoulder and somehow running between two tacklers.

Who do you think's the best person in history to be a football player that wasn't a football player just based on stature?

Tony.

Okay, I'm going to have to do this to Jeremy.

I'm sorry that I have to do this.

To Jeremy?

We got a major penalty on Jeremy five minutes for being Jeremy.

A major?

He said he was yes and

but all he gave me was Tony.

Deb, that was funny.

It was?

Yeah, I didn't see you doing anything with a question.

Well, that's giving Billy the room to be Billy, but since, you know what, you're right, actually.

Who's this for?

I don't know.

Billy's got a major fund only five minutes for being Billy.

A major.

You got to call it both ways.

Can you guys put on the screen, please, in the corner as Diana Rossini joins us from the athletic just that Knicks game last night,

the

tic-tac-toe that the

fans were playing.

Just put it in the corner for entertainment purposes as Diana is on with us so that people can just enjoy that on an endless loop.

And also, play for Diana, please, what happened to Adam Schefter yesterday, where Adam Schefter goes on Pat McAfee and says this on McAfee.

I don't see, it doesn't mean I'm right, but I don't see a coaching move being made anytime soon.

And then less than an hour later, he tweeted out, Brian Callahan has been fired.

That is correct.

Diana Rousseau

worst nightmare.

Worst.

Worst.

And in his defense, he's asked by McAfee, so he's just like, I don't know, is not a good answer here.

So I got to give some jazz hands.

He says he could be wrong, and then he was wrong less than an hour later.

Diana, how surprising was this in league circles?

Mike Ryan was overjoyed.

He thinks that Callahan is a clown show for his beloved Cam Ward.

Bad for him.

Yeah, I don't think Brian Callahan getting fired was shocking.

It was just when he was fired.

There was a belief around the league that this regime, right, of Mike Braganzi, the new general manager,

he's leading all this,

wanted to keep Callahan to just kind of get through this season.

I don't think they believed in an in-season firing.

So to me, this is in defense of Schefter, by the way.

I think the reason why he said he didn't believe that there'd be a firing, because I think he also was aware that they did not not want to do this, right?

So what does that usually tell you?

If the people running the show, we'll call it, are saying, we're not going to fire Brian Callahan, and then there's a firing that reeks of ownership.

That's owner calling going, yeah, I can't do this anymore.

And I believe that that's kind of how that happened, why that went down.

Also Schefter's defense, he did kind of shelf it, right?

Cause he's like, I could be wrong.

He's smart.

Like I'm an idiot sometimes when I do this stuff.

I'm like, nobody's getting fired.

Not today.

No way.

I had to do a better job of because he's been doing this so long.

He knows things can change like that.

And that's exactly what happened.

And he had to eat it a little bit.

But on to the next one.

No one broke the Callahan story.

The Titans did.

The Titans were the one who put that out.

So we all lost.

Diana, it seems to be a mess of a franchise.

They've made bad move after bad move.

I guess the whole chain started with getting rid of Mike Vrabel, who seems to be doing really well in New England.

There is a very weird ascension of Chad Brinker over there.

I think he was brought in by Rand Carthon and then became Rand Carthon's boss and then pushed him out.

We're running out of people to point the finger at for Chad.

How safe is he?

I know.

It's a good point, right?

Because let's go back even two more regimes, right?

Mike Malarkey was fired after winning a playoff game, right?

So he gets fired.

John Robinson's the general manager.

He hires Mike Vrabel.

They trade A.J.

Brown.

They go to Philadelphia.

A.J.

Brown lights them up.

Philadelphia fans are screaming their owner.

They fire John Robinson the next week.

They get through a few more, they get through that season.

The next season, they bring on, or that season, they bring on Rand Carthon.

Mike Vrabel tells the owner, he's not ready.

I like him.

Let's just make him an assistant.

He's just not ready to be a GM.

Owner says, great, not trusting what you have to say because I want to pick who the general manager is.

I don't want you having all the power.

Well, she picks Rand Carthon.

They figure out pretty quickly he's not the right choice either.

Either way, it's Vrabel that gets the the boot.

So then Vrabel leaves, takes a year off, hangs out with the Browns for a little bit.

Now he's obviously in New England having some early success and we'll see how this thing transcends.

And then they wind up firing Brian Callan, excuse me, firing Rand Carthon.

And as you said, now Chad Brinker is part of all this.

I think Chad Brinker has his tentacles in all of this for sure, but I think his relationship with ownership and their belief in what he can do is really strong.

If you heard their press conference last night, and I'm not sure if if you guys tuned into it because it was like 8.30 Eastern during Monday night football, Mike Berganzi and Chad Brinker sat at the table in front of the Titans media and laid out the picture of we have nine Super Bowls between us in the front office, which is a wild thing to say, I believe, to basically say, we have the credentials.

to fix this, yet we all know we have not seen that.

So

Mike, I do think a lot of people were making this about Brian Callahan versus Mike Vrabel.

And then obviously the Patriots are coming in to Nashville this weekend to play them.

And there was definitely some chatter yesterday that did the Titans fire Brian Callahan before Mike Vrabel could come into town and embarrass them if they won

to just avoid it, right?

Like, let's just not give him the satisfaction.

Let's just fire Brian now.

Interesting.

I don't know if that's true.

That's just like fun theories that people

had going on yesterday.

But this was never about comparing Brian Callahan to Mike Vrabel.

I think we all can agree that

Vrabel is a better coach.

I think the story of this upcoming Sunday is the dysfunction of this organization with the number one overall pick who has shown that he can play.

Are they going to be able to fix this and get the most out of the player?

And I think the Vrabel side to this is, look,

I don't think he ever really wanted to leave Tennessee.

I think he wanted to be there for the rest of his life, and they had some success there.

But at the end, it was obvious that him and the owner did not like one another.

So, this will, this is more about ownership versus Mike Rabel on Sunday.

It's not just Cam Ward at this point, though, where the number one pick has had their coach fired.

It's the last four quarterbacks taken number one overall.

Schefter tweeted this out yesterday.

It's Trevor Lawrence, Urban Meyer was fired in 2021.

It's Bryce Young, Frank Reich was fired.

It's Caleb Williams, Matt Eberflus was fired, and now Cam Ward, Brian Callahan was fired.

all during the first season of these number one overall picks.

Well, guys, it's usually because there's disorder during that time.

There's very rarely a GM and a head coach together making the selection.

It's all messed up, which is why we're seeing, and I believe it to be the story of the year of just the resurgence of quarterbacks that are in the right programs, whether it's Sam Darnold in Seattle, whether it's Baker Mayfield in Tampa Bay, Mac Jones in San Francisco, Daniel Jones in Indy, right?

Like

these guys

most thought they stunk when they were drafted by the teams that took them.

And now they all are playing some of the best at the position.

And think about being those teams, right?

Like you think the New York Giants aren't watching Daniel Jones?

Like, what the, like, where did that come from?

Well, no, they gave him money thinking that they had an idea of where that came from.

And it's not just the last four, it's six of the last eight.

I want to ask you some things about the last

couple of games that we saw last night before we get to this Tua sound.

You guys do realize at this point that the four teams that the Bills have defeated have a combined record of 3-21.

And it's not just that, because that's bad enough, right?

It's also this, because we've been talking a lot about the Eagles.

Over the last two weeks, the Eagles are 0-2.

They've scored 17 points a game, and they've allowed 5.7 yards per per play.

The Bills, also 0-2, also scoring 17 points, also allowing 5.7 yards per game.

Which is the bigger problem there, Diana?

Is it that their defense is really injured, or is it that those skilled players that I thought would be better can't get deep downfield?

That Shakir is their only wide receiver weapon, and all of a sudden you've turned Josh Allen into somebody who's not throwing the ball downfield.

Yeah, I'm not going to worry about the offense as much as I am going to worry about the defense for Buffalo, right?

Because you've got one of the best players in football playing quarterback.

He just looked rushed last night.

He was speeding up too much.

And all like the first part of the season, I feel like the part of his game that was so strong was that he slowed down.

I was talking to some defensive coordinators before their games when they would face the Bills.

And that was something that they noticed, that he is sitting there way more comfortable in the pocket rather than running and doing all those Josh Allen things that are sometimes magnificent.

And then I do think we saw last night when he's feeling that pressure, he's kind of going back to some of those old habits.

Yet he always finds ways to sort this out.

So less worried about these Bills skill players.

Although fans will tell you, let's go get AJ Brown.

Trade deadline's coming up.

Let's make a move.

We'll see if they're going to do that.

I don't get the sense right now.

The Bills are going to make some big splash before this trade deadline.

As for defense, like, yeah, this is, you have a defensive-minded head coach.

This is where they need to hold it down.

Um, and it definitely obviously affects the way this offense plays.

And we're seeing, we're seeing some holes now, and this is going to be something to haunt them if they don't fix it.

I thought he was hurt last night.

I thought he got hurt, and then all of a sudden his passes were low and very inaccurate.

More inaccurate than I've seen him in a minute.

You thought that was pressure, not injury.

No, that's pressure.

Jeff Ulbrick has done a phenomenal job.

When do we ever talk about an Atlanta Falcons pass rush that's good?

These guys are tough, and they were just smothering Josh.

And I think that's where the problems were coming from.

I don't think, and I'd like to look this up,

maybe when you guys can.

I'd be curious if this was the most pressure we've seen on Josh Allen in a game this season.

I bet you it's up there.

I like that DC.

It's got a weird liver king vibe over there.

His son made Crank call Shadur.

I don't know.

He's crazy.

I dig him.

I know, isn't that funny?

Like that's how we're going to recall him as.

Like the guy's doing a great job with his Falcons defense.

We're like, well, his son called Shador.

what a weird story that was speaking of weird results Atlanta losing 30 to nothing to Carolina confused me Carolina's confusing dude

I can okay you know sometimes like we do this and we're so in it and it I don't know sometimes I had to like step out in order to understand and really appreciate football I woke up on Monday going the Panthers are three and three like I had to check it on my phone their season's over you know like it just they're one of those stories where you have to check it because you're not sure about it.

Credit to them, right?

They're fighting.

I think they're one of the more surprising teams right now.

Being able to, you can't overlook them anymore.

I feel like you could do that last year.

The Panthers put up a fight now.

So good for them.

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To Diana's point, incidentally, Josh Allen was pressured 56% of the dropbacks last night.

So that's the most since 2021.

And they were getting pressure just, it wasn't, it wasn't with blitzes, like they were getting pressure with their front four.

Correct.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can see it too.

All right.

Yeah.

So I'm, um, that worked out statistically.

Sometimes it doesn't, but, but that, that makes a lot of sense.

But right now, look, there's so much parity in football.

And, and it, like, even right now, I'm thinking about like, who are the best teams?

You know, like, we, we did this last time we were together, guys, and we, you know, we were talking about the Colts and we were talking about the Bucs.

And they're the two five and one teams left, right?

But who's the third then?

Is it Detroit?

Like, who's the third best team in football at this point?

Is this good or bad that we don't know who's good and who's bad?

Because everybody always says, like, parody's so great.

It's like,

I like really good teams.

I guess it just depends on what you want to see.

As a reporter, I love it because it keeps this interesting.

The fact that, like, I care about the Panthers now is fun.

We know the Colts are good.

We know Denver's good, right?

No, like,

yeah, no, Billy, i'm with you it's like

like bootnicks kind of stunk against the jets and look a lot of the denver mistakes were self-inflicted and you you look at what this jets team was doing and it's like how did they not just blow them out um

but you're right like

the only team that i was making that noise about a month ago that i no longer am making it it's the chiefs they they they found themselves there and they're just about to take off in my in my what's this noise what's this noise that you're making everybody knows the noise it's like it's like

so your your analysis of every so when i ask you every team in the league are they good everyone but the chiefs is going to get that sound yeah so yeah like

if you'd like to do it we could we'll go through it uh oh sure let's let's go ahead and do it the steelers

schedule's tough

the bills

defense not great patriots

not not there yet chargers i don't trust them.

These are different noises.

These are all different noises.

It's a scale, Dan.

You don't get it.

It's a scale.

Yeah,

it's a range.

Because even the Colts, like, yeah, the Colts are good.

They're the best team in the SC, but

Seattle?

I don't see

it.

Who gives you the strong?

All right, let's do this.

Who gives you, Billy, who gives us the strongest?

Like,

I mean,

I don't know because

even the Bucks, the Bucks seem good, but like they're injured, and Baker's always capable of doing something dumb.

The Rams, the Rams, the Rams.

You guys are going to do this with everybody?

That's the league.

The Lions,

this is our point, though.

You don't know that the Lions are good.

Do you feel like Cream Bay is good?

Okay, sure.

I can go on the other side of it.

Let's do the other side.

Like, we could do Browns.

Dolphins.

Titans.

Jets.

Jets.

Do you know?

You're playing the game wrong.

You better stop.

I just keep thinking, like, I'm the senior NFL insider at the athletic owned by the New York Times.

And I'm going.

Yeah.

And the Zoom's not picking it up, unfortunately, because the raspberry is always a good sound.

Diana, we're in a really interesting time for quarterback play in the league.

It used to be a guy like Geno Smith, a guy who bounced around and reshaped himself into a starter in the NFL, was an outlier.

And now you have stories like Baker Mayfield, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, guys that it took a little time and now they're playing at elite levels.

How does the league take this recent sample and apply it to guys like Spencer Rattler, Trevor Lawrence, even Anthony Richardson?

Because we're seeing this recent trend in the league now where guys are bouncing around, they're getting with the right quarterback coach and they're meeting their ceilings.

Yeah, it's find the right programs led by the right people, right?

I think Kevin O'Connell has done a great job with any quarterback that's stepped in Minnesota.

Kyle Shanahan does it every single season.

It's why he's so well regarded.

It's this McVay tree, the Shanahan tree of people, of coaches that are the ones that seem to be unlocking a lot of the quarterback play.

So I think the story, or at least the lesson from this, is

you really can't give up on a lot of these guys that have the mental toughness, right?

Like I was talking to somebody in Indy recently about Daniel Jones.

And also I was talking to someone in Minnesota about Daniel as well.

And they just kept pointing to his toughness from his time in New York, dealing with a lot of those challenges, but also just the fact that he's so coachable.

And those are things I think that are just really important, even at the level of the NFL.

I think those characteristics exist.

Sam Darnold was probably one of the best examples of when you talk to coaches around the league, they used to always say, he can play.

I'm telling you.

And it would get so frustrating because you wouldn't see it.

Saquon Barkley said the same thing to me about Daniel Jones when he went to Philly.

I remember the first thing I said to him was, you know, man, you got to be pumped about playing with Jalen Hurts now, right?

You know, Daniel Jones.

He's like, no, Daniel is really good.

You guys don't get it.

Like, you give him an O-line, you give him a run game with someone like me, which we're seeing with Jonathan Talon, we're seeing with a great O-line in Indy.

Voila.

It's there.

It's less

and more pretty good.

By the way, off of last night's game, I misspoke.

It wasn't pressure with four.

Atlanta was bringing five on five, but it wasn't.

You said five.

No, no, I said pressure with four because it was a pressure rate that was five guys beating five other guys.

It wasn't six or seven guys, but five guys does qualify as a blitz.

They weren't doing it with four.

They were doing it mostly with five.

Yeah, they were very effectively sending their corners to surprising Josh Allen's, forcing him to his weaker side.

The other game last night, what did you make of Chicago and Washington?

And does our NFL insider know when and how

we suddenly got two games on Monday night?

Did they tell you?

Was there an announcement how that happened?

I used to remember like Monday night only had two football games if one of the games on Sunday had been postponed for some sort of strange reason, a hurricane was coming or something.

I know.

They double up.

Do you like it, though?

I do, but it just used to be that Monday night football was a singular game with singular announcers, not a diluted two games and I'm watching them at once and I've got to watch Washington and Chicago while I'm more interested in the other game.

Yeah, I personally don't love it.

I'm liking the Sunday morning international games.

I do like, I mean, it's a long day for all of us, but I like waking up and I watch the game so differently in the morning.

Like I'm way more reserved.

I'm calmer.

It's just like a warm-up to what the rest of the day is going to be.

In our house, I'm used to actually having soccer on, so it's nice to just start the day with a football game.

I don't like the doubling up at night because I just think it's just too hard for my little brain to watch both games.

And then I'm up late.

All of it, all those stupid problems that come with it.

The wildest part to me guys, and you guys are on the same time zone as me, it's just my friends on the West Coast.

Like, I don't think we, I think we underestimate how awesome that is for them.

Like they're done watching their football and they have a whole night ahead of them.

We're all like under our covers, like looking at Twitter,

you know, after these games.

They're living a life.

That is the one thing I do wish that we could change is just have the games on earlier.

But in terms of what I saw, I mean, the Bears came out looking prepared.

They obviously used that bye week

to get ready for this.

You know, and the run game that I saw on both sides of the ball, being able to stop the run and slow the commanders down, something that they've done so well,

I think was really impressive.

And just to be able to go back to Washington after

the way we saw Chicago lose last year on that Hail Mary and essentially ended that year for them, right?

Like that was an exorcism um one of our bears writers was talking about that last night of like

that game against the commanders last year for the bears is where it all fell apart matt eberflus uh went in that lot the whole thing was just a disaster uh so so for the bears to be able to turn it around this fast like i think we all knew ben johnson was going to be a good head coach and he was obviously sought after and he didn't make the decision to become a head coach until he felt ready.

But I I am surprised how quick he turned this around.

And you're willing to say that it is turned around.

Chicago?

Is Chicago good?

Chicago's good.

What?

They've got the right.

Chicago's the one that's good.

Could be.

No.

They've got the building blocks of a team that are going in the right direction.

Like that, that's what I, that's Chicago good.

You don't get the bar for them is very low, right?

So there's also that you have to factor in.

Like they get a

big picture, but for Chicago and what those expectations are from a first-year head coach and seeing how Caleb needed a lot of coaching, like this is good.

Fairs fans should be waking up today, like just enthusiastic that this is headed in the right direction.

Let's play the Tua sound for her here and get her reaction.

There is only one team in the league where the coach has to come out the next day and say, my quarterback said the wrong thing.

I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys, right?

We're expecting this.

Are we getting that?

Are we not getting that?

We have guys showing up to player-only meetings late, guys not showing up to player-only meetings.

Like, there's a lot that goes into that.

Do we have to make this mandatory?

Do we not have to make this mandatory?

It's a lot of things of that nature.

To be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed late.

Yeah.

Mike McDaniel said afterward, that's the wrong way to handle that.

That has to be in-house.

Your thoughts?

It's a mess.

We talk about cultural issues inside locker rooms and problems that these teams have, and it's hard to point to what those are.

They just put it out on front street.

Like they just told you the state of the Miami Dolphins.

You have your franchise quarterback,

the captain of their team, admitting that people are late, admitting that people aren't doing the things that they need to be doing,

you know, to be a successful team.

And I know their head coach came out and protected him a bit, I think,

despite the fact that his quarterback is taking shots at him.

Look, the most common

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Right?

Like, I think everyone's just watching the Dolphins and waiting to see when Stephen Ross goes, okay, enough.

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This is never going to turn around, which is unfortunate because I do think at times they had potential, but this has now now become what it looks like from the outside, the quarterback going up against the head coach.

And

that's not going to work.

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Daddy says you're doing a live show on the draft.

Wick, is it channel seven?

Stugats.

Those girls on Eyewitness News, they look good.

They're mothers.

They look good, though.

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They also seem to be getting stuck in a game of semantics where when Mike McDaniel came out to like say Tua shouldn't be saying that, Tua said there's players skipping player-only meetings.

And Mike McDaniel's like, well, they're not exactly player-only meetings.

They're player-called film study sessions that they're not attending.

So it's not that big a deal.

Why?

Why is this so weird can we just get rid of player-only meetings they don't work right and and even just the definition of meeting we saw it with philadelphia right it's like you know they're like oh yeah yeah we met we met and aj brown's like no we didn't like we were walking to our cars and you were like yo catch the ball or whatever the heck their conversation was you know like that was not a meeting uh and and i think it's because Philly has tried so hard internally to fix it and it's not working.

Like, it's almost like relationships, right?

Like, you know, when things aren't good and you, and, you know, your significant other or your partner just wants to keep talking about it.

And you're like, enough with the talking about it.

It's, it's, this is not going to fix anything.

And, and the dolphins are in the same bucket.

Like that, there's nothing they can talk about anymore.

They are what they are, which is not a very good team run by bad leaders right now.

And it's not going to get turned around.

And I, I just think that

they want to stop the bleeding because they don't want to be embarrassed at this point because this, the, the wheels, the wheels are off in Miami.

I feel like each team should only be allowed one players-only meeting a year.

Like, that's all you get.

And you get to choose when it is that you have the players-only meeting.

Because if you're having it every week, it's completely.

Well, but I told you guys this offseason, I saw something I've never seen before.

Never in my history covering sports.

A football team got together on an off day without the coaches and had a practice that was players only.

No coaches.

They had training camp, and then on a day off, they got together.

That team, to Diana's point, of how useful these things are, the New York Jets.

The New York Jets had a players-only practice this offseason, and that's the worst team in the sport, which is hard to do when Brian Callahan's team exists.

I mean, that works when it's Tom Brady during COVID and you're breaking protocol, right?

When it's like Justin Fields is calling you to like a park, it's like, did you reserve this field?

Like, there's kids, they have a game today.

Get off the field.

Diana,

before we let you go here, can you tell me any coffee shop updates that you have?

You're having to do a lot of work at the coffee shop.

I don't know if you're treating the coffee shop the way that Billy treats the bathroom as a good place to read to get away from his family.

Yes, Billy, I'm in the same camp as you.

I write on deadline on Fridays.

So I always just go to this one great coffee shop.

Like it's cozy.

They keep the heat on.

It's warm.

And I'd say like week one or two, they realized that I was a writer because I was sitting there on the computer and i i mentioned i'm a sports writer um

and and they just keep sending out fresh uh cups of coffee they used to give me plastic cups then they started to give me a mug uh one time i took a call i came back there was a pastry next to my computer they never charged me so this is like my this is my spot it's like my my my own little home on fridays um

and so this past friday

I think it was the owner, they're Turkish.

And he said, you know, I want to reach you.

he said where can i reach you and i said oh the athletic and so he pulls out the app and he's going to the soccer page and i said no no no no no football american foot american football and he just goes oh

shuts the app no more free coffee oh no more goods no

no more muffins no more warmed up banana bread um i realized that i should have just stuck with it i should have just been like yeah i do a little soccer i dabble there so uh i gotta find a new coffee shop.

So

no longer welcome.

So sorry.

That's terrible.

What a terrible ending to this segment.

They brought you

a free pastry and now it's gone because you were doing the wrong football.

She's the senior NFL insider for the wrong football on the athletic and the host of the Scoop City podcast that talks about the wrong football.

Thank you, Diana.

Good seeing you.

Always nice seeing you.

We will talk to you next week.

Bye, guys.

See you next week.

I am told we have an update from Nick Wright, Nick Wright's poker game.

game roy you missed out on all of this you were not going to be part of the five thousand dollars that nick wright uh will or won't give the shipping container god damn it we're gonna find out together uh whether or not you guys what what's your level of enthusiasm billy what do you think is gonna happen here he had a giant poker game with uh with high stakes people he didn't even want to tell his wife about it because it's there are billionaires involved it's a game above his head and this is a man who puts $5,000 aside as one of his bets during the week because he's a big-time gambler.

What do you think is going to happen here?

I don't know.

I mean, he seems to have a lot of disposable income, though, yesterday, he told us.

And if you didn't hear yesterday, what he told us yesterday was in this poker game, if he won big, the $5,000 that Dan owes him, he would give to the shipping container.

And if he lost, he was going to need that money from Dan, and the shipping container would get nothing.

It was specifically going to be split, by the way, just so we can clarify this.

Not Tony, Juju, Greg, I think we were sort of including.

Yeah, he was making the four of us back here.

Lewis, Billy, Mike, and me.

Possibly Louis.

Sorry, no worries.

I did reach out to Nick after the show, trying to actively cut Tony out from the pot.

Nick allowed him to be in the show.

So

tell me what the cuts are going to be, and what are you expecting here?

Does anyone know what the result is?

Because he has sent a video.

Do you guys know what the result is?

And how many ways is $5,000 going to be split if he won last?

I think we should hear from Nick first and see if we're getting money.

Zero ways.

Well, but no, I don't know.

I expect a lot of...

talk and no action from Nick right.

Okay, so but just to be clear, Mike, since you texted him after the show, it would be split how many ways?

Because I didn't get that far.

Yeah.

Everything was dependent on him winning a big time.

And then Juju came in in the post-game, and we said Juju's in, too, so it's very confusing.

It's like seven, seven of us, I think.

I don't know why you're including my dad.

I think it's six of us.

I think it's the fourth.

Well, Greg was in.

The four of us, excluding Roy.

Sorry, you weren't here.

He said shipping container, though, and then Juju was part of it.

I'm Lewis.

I'm good letting Roy have a part of my cut.

Okay, so Roy's in now, too.

He does mean.

Hold on.

This is like the classic.

You go to a restaurant situation and you start splitting checks.

You said Roy can have a part of your cut.

Yeah, I'll cut it.

Yeah, but then it has to be because, like, this is what happens.

You go to a restaurant,

and then couples throw in one card, and then the single people throw in one card.

And then you realize, oh, the couple, each person's actually paying half as much as the single person who's putting in a card.

You don't have to

set this down and get everything.

Well, first, let's see if we want anything.

I had none of the appetizer.

So, Juju, as I recall, had nothing to do with this bet.

You guys are now divvying money up that isn't yours yet and was never yours to divvy up.

I asked Nick Wright to send a video of how he did and who he's giving the money to.

You guys don't get to decide who gets the money.

I was just curious how it is you'd already divvied it up.

So I wanted to see who would get mad at whom.

Nick definitely said in the inter yesterday, you guys divvied up how you see Juju.

Yeah, that's true.

That was definitely.

Well, but I asked him to send a video to tell us an update, and I see that this is about what it would look like if if he were leaving a billionaire's party, walking down the street, being Nick Wright.

So, at two o'clock in the morning, after complaining that I text him at two o'clock in the morning, he sent this:

What up, Levitard crew?

Promise you guys an update.

This is what I call a good news, bad news, bad news situation.

Good news.

I've definitely got a seat in that game whenever I want it runs about once a month

as I said going into it huge favorite

moving forward that is

bad news

I lost

How much did I lose,

you know, no way to tell, except that, I mean, there's a way to tell.

But

enough that my chest is a little tight right now.

Not from the cigarette.

Double bad news for the shipping container.

I really wanted you guys to have that five grand.

But

I'm going to need it.

It actually would probably be helpful for me if I can just have Dan send it directly to

a soon creditor, but that's between Dan and I.

you can use this however you see fit.

Sorry I let you down, guys.

Talk to you guys soon.

Uh, you didn't let us down because I love the visuals of walking through New York City and seeing somebody who I could identify as either a vampire or a werewolf.

Like that, that person

there's a vampire

cigarette.

Which does he look like?

He's a lichen, no doubt.

Well, if he turned into a werewolf right there when saying his chest tightened at the idea of me trying to figure out how to venmo him a white corvette

uh when if he turned into a vampire what what would be more likely put that picture up on twitter at lebotard show and uh and just ask the question what is this walking through the streets of new york city at 2 a.m is it a vampire or is eyeballs or is it a werewolf what what what is

is it black like a dull size

he was also doing circles if you notice the same buildings kept going from side to side that's new York.

He does not have any white in his eyes.

There is a lack of soul there that comes from losing to billionaires in a game where

you're over your head, but you're playing the long game.

He thinks he's got a table full of suckers, but they're billionaires and he's not.

They leave with his money, but he's got the edge and also his blood.

I saw actually the other day, I don't know if you guys could find this for me, but I saw just a, on on YouTube, I saw a picture or a video of Phil Helmuth, and it said, Helmuth,

I think,

flips quads.

And right next to him is a defeated Nick Wright, like just

playing in games he shouldn't be in, playing in games over his head, but he is a good gambler.

Except he wasn't when it came time to not let you guys down and then walk through the streets totally broken with no white in his eyes because those eyes were black and moments after he turned off his camera,

his hands turned to pause

like that.

It seems obvious to me from that angle,

but I'm afraid of him because Dominique Foxworth has proclaimed that the Chiefs are indeed back.

He definitely ran through Central Park like James Spader and Wolf.

Did you pay him?

I did, yes.

Okay, and the car thing, is that still up in the air?

We kind of closed that loop.

I'd like to still find the car, and I'd like to still figure out what to do with the car, but he needs the money, so I paid him.

Quick question about James Spader and Wolf.

Why was Jack Nicholson all feral, but James Spader could talk intellectually?

He was like the smart gremlin when it came to werewolves.

I don't know if you guys saw weapons or not, but the movie Weapons, when Nick Wright lost here with his cigarette, put out his cigarette, he then absolutely ran through the park with his arms spread wide and then turned into some sort of creature.

Is there a third creature?

Should I put on the poll werewolf, vampire, loser?

Like, what does he most look like walking through the streets at 2 a.m.?

I would not get near that.

I'd walk to the other side of the street if that were walking toward me with black eyes.

Yeah, real Rasputin vibe.

Do we have any other characters that we can go to that would be better?

Because I think werewolf is better than vampire.

As I approach, like this dude's like a disavowed oligarch, werewolf, vampire.

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