Local Hour: We Apologize To No One

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Speaker 11 At this point, I know that we are used to like even sunshiny Jeremy Tashay coming in with traffic face because South Florida has cars stacked on top of cars.

Speaker 11 But even you're surprised, Chris, that your dad is late again, right? Like even your surprise that we continue to shame him and he continues to not be able to get here on time.

Speaker 19 I want to be surprised, but I also want to be nicer to him. So I'm struggling today.

Speaker 11 Okay, well, this is a good thing for you to be doing. I know you've gotten a lot of complaints on the Greg Cody show featuring.

Speaker 19 Did someone else do it? Billy, rip him for being late.

Speaker 20 Featuring Greg Cody.

Speaker 19 I've gone to the wrong person.

Speaker 21 I mean, Greg's right about being late, so I don't know how I'm going to rip him, to be honest with you.

Speaker 11 What are you, being positive today?

Speaker 11 You're being positive, Billy Ted Lasso, Tuesday, because you're still paying off your punishment from last week?

Speaker 22 Nah, it's my thing with Greg.

Speaker 21 No matter what he does, it's right.

Speaker 11 Don't tell people that.

Speaker 23 You're going to let them see the

Speaker 24 show didn't get the show there.

Speaker 11 What are you guys doing? Because I want to play some of these AI videos for Greg and see how many of them he believes, including the one of George Washington hitting a grand slam in the World Series.

Speaker 11 Like, I want to see how many AI videos we can play for him before he realizes that those aren't real videos. Like, we could fool him pretty easily, right?

Speaker 11 When you guys are now getting fooled, I feel so much less alone now when you guys come in every day and you have to verify things seven different ways because you guys are now getting fooled too by the internet.

Speaker 11 What'd you get fooled by this morning, Mike?

Speaker 14 There was a,

Speaker 27 man, remember when you could trust a verified account on X?

Speaker 23 What was wrong with that setup?

Speaker 29 What was wrong with it?

Speaker 24 I don't get it, but

Speaker 30 it was like duplicate, it was stacking on fake them on social media.

Speaker 15 NBA Centel posted a screen cap of a purported Draymond Green comment on LeBron's doing the thing again where he wants everybody to talk about him.

Speaker 27 More on that in a second from Billy.

Speaker 33 But Draymond, a fake Draymond, left an account, left a comment on the account saying, oh, you're trading Bronny.

Speaker 27 And then a fake Bronnie was like, my dad's not trading for you.

Speaker 20 And I'm like, wow, this is fun.

Speaker 27 And

Speaker 36 everybody was fake.

Speaker 18 Everybody was fake. It's stopping.

Speaker 27 Including NBA Centel.

Speaker 11 So it started with a deep fake, and then you just went down the hole, and it was just an assortment of other fakes until you couldn't tell what was real.

Speaker 27 Yeah, that's how they get people when you truly believe something is plausible.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 27 And, you know, you get disappointed.

Speaker 28 Thankfully, you shake it off in about 30 seconds.

Speaker 27 I must admit, though, I wasn't fooled by George Washington hitting a walk off Grand Slam.

Speaker 19 I think the key with tricking my dad was you got to be subtle with it. If we try to position it, like, hey, Greg, look, like, we just got to be like, we're all looking at him.

Speaker 39 You've got no shot, okay, because these are all like dead people.

Speaker 24 Like, I think you'll catch on to seeing him.

Speaker 18 You don't think we can get him with Stephen Hawking skateboarding

Speaker 11 i don't think we even need ai i think we could put my brother in this seat and pretend like it was a grid of death punishment and he would absolutely think it was me for a whole show we should do that we should do that we should have your brother in for a full show because it looks like you in a disguise anyways right no but his brother goes out of his way the one time i met him to do things sartorially and with his hair and face to be someone who looks different than jeremy right which is why we pretend it's a a costume punishment.

Speaker 18 Yeah, it's a beaters punishment for Jeremy.

Speaker 40 He wouldn't do it like me.

Speaker 11 We could do that one day. That should be one of the punishments.

Speaker 20 Only for you.

Speaker 11 Make your brother come in here one day and absolutely. He doesn't talk like you, though, right?

Speaker 40 I think we could fool him out of the middle.

Speaker 41 He knows how.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 24 Just be quiet. That's a psych.

Speaker 42 If you think your family...

Speaker 11 I'm ashamed to say that I called Amin and Carl yesterday and said we might think about a live stream for LeBron's retirement yesterday.

Speaker 29 You mean Prime Day?

Speaker 20 Yeah, right.

Speaker 11 He tricked me is what I'm saying. My point is, I'm still getting fooled by the most basic things.

Speaker 43 This is the Don Levatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 11 On the television here, I can see that Gary Bettman is sitting across from Mike Greenberg.

Speaker 11 And in a, you know, general commissioner's interview, there are questions like, what has Sidney Crosby meant for the league?

Speaker 11 But the graphic I just saw, okay, the graphic I just saw is still, and you tell me whether I'm entitled to be able to feel this way or not, is still disorienting to me when I see in type across the bottom of the screen, has Panthers dynasty been good for the NHL?

Speaker 18 It's wild. What the, like,

Speaker 11 I'm still confused by it. They got their rings.
They got their rings, and they're perfect. They're the perfect team for today's America because they put stenciled on the ring.
We apologize to no one.

Speaker 19 I've been so selfish and just thinking about myself. I haven't really thought about that question.

Speaker 40 Has this been good for the league?

Speaker 11 They're just saying, as a matter of fact, Panthers Dynasty is that's not, has it been good for the league? Is a secondary question to me. I'm still looking at Panthers Dynasty, and I'm like, what?

Speaker 11 What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 46 It's pretty wild.

Speaker 40 I guess you could do the thing where, are there teams where it could be better for the league?

Speaker 32 And I think that that's absolutely the case.

Speaker 20 If Edmonton had won the last year.

Speaker 11 No, I disagree. No, McDavid, McDavid needing to win is better for the league than McDavid running the league.

Speaker 29 If it's one of those old-school traditional blue brothers, blue blood franchises like the New York Rangers and Big Market, it would be better.

Speaker 38 But I would say that over the course of this time, and it probably lines up with our new TV contracts, that ratings are up with the Panthers atop the sport and have been for some time.

Speaker 47 I mean, you look at it like Sun Belt teams running the Stanley Cup, you know, like Dallas in 99 and stuff like that.

Speaker 48 Like, yes, this is expansion is great for the league.

Speaker 40 They have 32 teams now.

Speaker 49 So, yes, this is absolutely great for the league.

Speaker 19 I thought at first you were saying it's like if a Sunbelt team won the national championship. I was about to get very offended.

Speaker 50 Middle Tennessee State.

Speaker 11 So the Panthers got their rings, and the rings, everyone says they're beautiful.

Speaker 11 If you want to put that up on the screen, and please have ready the Cody is late again, Cam, so that we can all see him walking in whenever he walks in.

Speaker 11 They put a rat, they put a rat on the ring, they put palm trees on the ring,

Speaker 11 and they put the Sam Bennett drunken quote of we apologize to no one, which Sam Bennett didn't even realize that he was giving them their motto after they won the title.

Speaker 11 But evidently, the people in management really liked the drunken debauchery of Sam Bennett going from place to place in South Florida, telling everyone for

Speaker 11 three drunken days that we apologize to no one.

Speaker 45 I would like to take this time to apologize to absolutely f

Speaker 16 no one. We're the double champs.

Speaker 11 We do what the f we want.

Speaker 42 Let's go.

Speaker 19 They left that part off the ring.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 26 We do what the bleep we want.

Speaker 11 That's too long. Well, it's only

Speaker 11 because it's not the Marlins rings of David Sampson that they don't have room for the rest of that quote on that.

Speaker 11 That let's go really does sound like the lonely let's go of Jeremy Tashay as he tried to get us all fired up that one day.

Speaker 11 They sound similar where Sam Bennett is trying to summon what I thought was real emotion there, but his let's go sounds as the same as the

Speaker 11 thespian child.

Speaker 40 Let's go!

Speaker 14 You know what's really cool about today, outside of another banner going up in that arena, and probably so if you followed the history of this franchise, is you looked at the offseason that this team had,

Speaker 15 and I think they're already dynastic because they won the Eastern Conference a year prior to their first cup.

Speaker 28 They've been in three straight cup finals.

Speaker 51 Everyone thought, oh, they got a really good shot at three-peating here, as good a shot as anyone we've had in our lifetime.

Speaker 28 And you lose Matthew Kachuk, arguably your second best player, and you lose Sasha Barkov, arguably the best two-way player in hockey.

Speaker 23 And everyone still has excitement about this season.

Speaker 27 Let's see what we can do.

Speaker 15 Don't let us in the playoffs. Don't let us get into that tournament with our guys healthy.

Speaker 48 It's a different quest here it's not let's get home ice you've seen this team do it anyway you've seen them reach a cup final as the last seed you've seen them do it with home ice you've seen them do it with zero home ice twice uh i'm pumped for this season i'm pumped to see the young guys try to ascend to those levels and it's a really exciting time it's let's go

Speaker 19 It's such a good point because we've lost essentially our two best players. I mean, you could call Bob our best player, but, and, and nobody's, this team is expected to still kind of compete.

Speaker 19 compete in the play.

Speaker 11 That's because of their depth. They have an enormous amount of depth, but it's also, and tell me if you think I have this right.
I'll defer to you, Roy, as the hockey historian around here.

Speaker 11 But generally speaking, when a team wins the title in that sport, because of how hard it is, because they're all giving their bodies to the cause in a way that's truly insane in the playoffs in terms of what they're playing through.

Speaker 11 If you have the medal to be a champion, it's really hard to take it from a champion. That generally speaking,

Speaker 11 the champion from the previous year doesn't fizzle out. You have to take it from them.
It's not like the year,

Speaker 11 correct me if I have this wrong, the Miami Heat win the championship, and then the next year with Shaq and Wade, they've cashed in all their chips and you can see that it was so hard for them that that's all they had.

Speaker 11 But if you have the medal in this sport to get to a championship,

Speaker 11 you taste it and it gets greedy. Do I have that historically right or wrong?

Speaker 47 Well, there hasn't been a three-peat since the Allanders did it.

Speaker 11 I'm just talking about how champions get dethroned in that sport, that you have to knock off a champion the way Ohio State knocks off Miami, where you have to take it from them.

Speaker 47 Yeah, yeah, it's definitely difficult. I mean, the Penguins did it, the Lightning, it is absolutely difficult.

Speaker 38 It is tough, but recently in the NHL, to Roy's point, you had that weird stretch where it seemed like the Blackhawks and the Kings were just alternating titles and the Blackhawks were dynastic, but they had breaks in between their championship wins.

Speaker 15 I think recent history, it's really tough to make it to three straight cups.

Speaker 31 I don't think I was ever alive for the last time a team made four straight cups.

Speaker 23 Yeah, this is, and the fact that it's happening in Sunrise, Florida, with what was for most of its existence, arguably not just the worst franchise in hockey, the worst franchise top to bottom.

Speaker 15 I mean, financially, reach,

Speaker 38 on-ice success, probably the worst franchise in sports for a decent stretch there.

Speaker 52 And now they're running the goddamn game.

Speaker 11 I won't say that as long as the Detroit Lions exist as something that was a 50-year embarrassment that made all its best players quit.

Speaker 11 But you're wearing a Pavel Burre shirt, and Pavel Burre is as close as they came to winning a playoff game, and they didn't.

Speaker 11 They got swept in the series when they were in the playoffs with what was the best. When they had McDavid,

Speaker 11 when the Panthers had McDavid, they didn't win a playoff game.

Speaker 27 It's pretty crazy what Pavel Burre did in successive seasons when you consider how the rules have changed.

Speaker 15 Like if Pavel Buray was playing in today's rules, there's so many things that they did to neutralize Pavel Burre with the rule book, which is why I'm going to cape up for the cause.

Speaker 34 It's high time that they honor his jersey.

Speaker 27 He was the best goal scorer in the league when he was wearing that sweater, and he should probably have his jersey retired.

Speaker 11 He was the only nationally relevant, because I wouldn't give it to Bobrovsky either. He was the, I'm sorry, I wouldn't give it to Luongo either.

Speaker 11 He was the only nationally relevant player they ever had before this last championship team in their entire history for 30 years.

Speaker 11 But when you hear Sam Bennett, can you guys give me the second thing that people shout in sports when they're excited after Let's Go? Because Let's Go is the runaway Hall of Famer.

Speaker 11 Trevor Lawrence did it.

Speaker 11 He's shouting in the middle of Duval yesterday when he's enjoying that he's stumbling backward and stumbling forward and giving you the most Jags last drive you will ever see, except it usually ends with them failing.

Speaker 11 I'm going to go through the details of that last drive because it's the

Speaker 11 game-winning 60-yard drive you've ever seen for a 4-1 team because they could have turned the ball over twice on that drive and at the beginning of the drive. This was great.

Speaker 11 I expected every part of that game last night to end with the Jags coughing it up at the end.

Speaker 11 When Patrick Mahomes goes down the field, has his first game in, I don't know, three years where he's really chucking the ball downfield.

Speaker 11 Trevor Lawrence starts a drive at his own 40, okay, because kickers, kickers, starts the drive at his own 40 with a minute 45 left.

Speaker 11 And then I look up and there's a minute left, and he's run six yards one way and negative three yards the other way. And so now they're at the 43-yard line.

Speaker 11 They've gotten three yards on the first 45 seconds of that drive, but only because he throws a perfect ball to Brian Thomas in double coverage and he he throws another laser beam out because he can do that, do they get into position?

Speaker 11 Do you want to put your headset on so you can hear the audience?

Speaker 18 Oh, stop eating bacon. Do one.

Speaker 5 Why are you late again? I hear him chewing my whole life.

Speaker 19 He's been the loudest chewer.

Speaker 22 I thought you wanted to be nice.

Speaker 11 Who eats bacon without grabbing a napkin so you don't have to wipe that on your jeans?

Speaker 40 Their jeans.

Speaker 40 Dress pants?

Speaker 11 Put it on the poll at Lebatar Show. Do you use your jeans to wipe your hands of bacon? Everybody does.
At Lebatar Show.

Speaker 28 Did you say that was Patrick Mahomes' first game in three years doing that?

Speaker 11 It was since the middle of 23 has he thrown the ball down the field like that.

Speaker 11 He hasn't thrown the ball down the field like that. And again,

Speaker 11 we don't have to discuss whether or not they're the same offense or not. They have not been since the middle of 2023.
That's statistical. I'm not making it up.
It's not my opinion.

Speaker 11 It's not an opinion. All right.

Speaker 34 Well, their offense has been back the last two weeks when they've had their wide receivers back, and it sure makes a difference.

Speaker 11 It did make a difference last night, but they lost it late.

Speaker 11 And let me go through this so that you guys can answer my question on the second thing that athletes shout after let's go when they're excited, because the universal let's go is the accepted consensus of what you shout when you're really excited.

Speaker 11 Tom Brady named his whole slogan, his whole thing is Let's F and Go. But so this is, you want to guess, Uh, give me the stat of the day here.

Speaker 11 I'm gonna get some dueling stats of the day here to do this,

Speaker 7 yeah, start of the day.

Speaker 7 Start of the day, start of the day, it is yes,

Speaker 7 yes,

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Speaker 11 I have some nominees for you guys. See if you have any that can knock these off.

Speaker 11 Or select one. I'm happy that Greg Cody is here.
He is finally, a month later than the rest of us, bailed on the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 11 Not sure why that's the one that made it happen, but that's the one that made it happen. He now knows that the season is over.
He has now quit on the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 11 Billy, if you want to, I'm happy to do scheduled talk on the University of Miami.

Speaker 20 What? Scheduled talk?

Speaker 11 Yeah, if you want to give me the University of Miami.

Speaker 50 Not one for scheduled talk, but let me look it up.

Speaker 11 I'd like to know what the University of Miami schedule is the rest of the season.

Speaker 41 Sneaky tough.

Speaker 11 We can do win-loss on the Miami Hurricane schedule, but the stat of the day that I'm nominating right now to see if you guys can do better than this is.

Speaker 11 Go ahead and guess the last time the Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens lost on the

Speaker 11 same weekend.

Speaker 42 Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, all three lose one weekend.

Speaker 11 Go ahead and guess when that's last.

Speaker 19 2021.

Speaker 29 Yeah, maybe things got wonky around COVID.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 14 We're going to go with COVID season.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 21 1984.

Speaker 42 No.

Speaker 11 2017.

Speaker 26 Oh, wow.

Speaker 25 Wow.

Speaker 18 Damn it, Billy. That's crazy.

Speaker 11 It's eight years since they all lost at the same time. The Ravens didn't exist in 84.

Speaker 41 I was in a Cleveland, yeah.

Speaker 11 So Billy was wrong.

Speaker 19 Billy and I didn't exist in 84.

Speaker 25 That is true.

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Speaker 40 it's a Tuesday.

Speaker 43 Stugats. Here's your guy, Greg Cody, with back in my day.

Speaker 25 Okay, here it is.

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Speaker 11 You want to guess? Trevor Lawrence is now in his fifth season.

Speaker 11 You want to guess how many game-winning drives that is for Trevor Lawrence in his fifth season, what he did last night with less than two minutes left?

Speaker 28 Well, you had one in the playoffs against the Chargers that cost me $80,000.

Speaker 11 This includes the postseason. This is fourth quarter and overtime.

Speaker 45 Nine.

Speaker 11 That's exactly right.

Speaker 26 Good job, Greg. Did he he know?

Speaker 50 That bacon really helped.

Speaker 41 Yeah, of course he did.

Speaker 50 It's all bacon.

Speaker 11 Of course he knew.

Speaker 39 $80,000?

Speaker 25 Educated guess.

Speaker 36 Let's just skip past that one.

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 it's two a year, basically, you can get from Trevor Lawrence. And he is the...
I have this right, right?

Speaker 11 He's the only quarterback in the league who flips his hair over his shoulder before taking the snap because he's got to flip it over. Starting.

Speaker 27 Minshew's still around.

Speaker 11 Does Minshu's go back that far where it goes down below the shoulder pads?

Speaker 27 Minshew could have a high and tight, and he's still going to do that move. It's muscle memory.

Speaker 11 I didn't trust anything happening with Jacksonville late in that game because their quarterback is a galloping Clydesdale.

Speaker 11 And he does things like fumble on the goal line, trying to get a sneak, and he does things like trip over his guard's foot at the one-yard line so that he falls down. This is almost mathematical.

Speaker 11 Do you know how big you have to be and clumsy to do what I'm about to say?

Speaker 11 Fall down from the one yard line on the six yard line

Speaker 27 then on the eight yard line again and get up and run it in for a touchdown i understand we want to lead with the quarterbacks but that game was won by devin lloyd i mean how good have the chiefs been with andy reed as head coach in that red zone area in that goal line area they they do this thing where they know the rule book and they they have these legal pick plays which should be outlawed by the way that first touchdown to travis kelsey was i mean nonsense

Speaker 32 And for Devin Lloyd to read Patrick Mahomes' mind, because you can't read eyes at that point, everything's moving so quickly, to know what Patrick Mahomes is going to do there, step in front of the ball intended for Juju Smith-Schuster, and then on top of that, display the athleticism.

Speaker 33 And I think we're all at the point where we thought this guy's going to fumble the ball himself right before the goal line or get it punched out, right? To run 99 yards after that play.

Speaker 41 That is a season-changing type of play.

Speaker 32 That might be the difference between a home playoff game and not making the playoffs at all.

Speaker 15 That was certainly the difference in the game. Devin Lloyd, the last couple of weeks, I think he's been defensive player of the month.

Speaker 29 Yes.

Speaker 46 An incredible story.

Speaker 27 Joe Buck and Troy Aikman did so well in highlighting the fact that he entered camp in a position battle.

Speaker 15 He wasn't gifted that linebacker position, even though he was a first-round draft pick a couple of years ago.

Speaker 27 What he has done over the last month has been incredible.

Speaker 19 He should probably be defensive player of the year because you look at the impact he's had per next-gen stats.

Speaker 19 So Devin Lloyd's 99-yard pick six swung their win probability by 42 percentage points in that moment. That's with two minutes to go in the third quarter.

Speaker 19 It says that Devin Lloyd has added a 95.4 percentage in win probability over his league leading four interceptions. That's more than double the next closest defender.

Speaker 19 His impact has been unfathomably important for this team.

Speaker 37 That's not just a depoy argument right there.

Speaker 48 That is an MVP argument.

Speaker 19 But can we acknowledge also that it's random? Like we can be impressed with it and he should deserve these things, but it's like, do you think, do we really think that?

Speaker 30 I understand it feels random, but like, the plays that he has made specifically,

Speaker 48 like, that is film study.

Speaker 51 That is 99 yards.

Speaker 27 That's also athleticism.

Speaker 32 That is God-given talent. There ain't nothing random about that play.

Speaker 19 He almost got caught from behind, too, on that one.

Speaker 48 Yeah, you know who was chasing him?

Speaker 18 A guy with a 4-2-40.

Speaker 11 The thing that I'm not going to do, though, is say that that won the game, even though I understand why you would say that, because at the end, Trevor Lawrence still had to win it.

Speaker 11 Patrick Mahomes did the thing that that you expect Patrick Mahomes to do in that spot and even with only 21 seconds left if the Chiefs had been able to not get a penalty on their kickoff they might have gotten into field goal range.

Speaker 11 What happened at the end of the game was this Jags drive that I believe

Speaker 11 makes them not serious people and they're not to be trusted in a playoff game. They're gonna make, I know that they're very talented.
I will not dispute that the Jags are very talented.

Speaker 11 I do not trust them in any way. And I don't trust them because of how that final drive went, because I've seen them play with that quarterback that way for five years.
And here's what happened.

Speaker 11 It was wildly undisciplined. They get the ball at the 40, first of all, because Harrison Butker.

Speaker 11 Like, you cannot allow the other team to start at the 40 when your only job is to never get hit and just kick a football.

Speaker 40 Kick it in bounds.

Speaker 11 They start at the 40-yard line. As I said, with a minute 45 left, after a minute, they've gained three yards because Trevor Lawrence has run to his his right and run to his left.
Now he's exhausted.

Speaker 11 He's breathing hard and they have to use a timeout because he just keeps running right and left and not throwing the football.

Speaker 11 Then they get into a third and 13 and get bailed out by an interference call on an interception. They also had another throw at the goal line that could have been intercepted.

Speaker 11 It was a dumb pass that he threw at the goal line that

Speaker 11 just way too dangerous a pass to be throwing in that situation. Also, hurry up offense, delay of game.

Speaker 11 It's just a total disaster.

Speaker 11 And then I thought on that one-yard play, given what had happened earlier in the game, Mike, because you're saying pick six, but it's not like the Jags didn't fumble right on the goal line because Trevor Lawrence was holding the ball right over the goal line.

Speaker 40 100%.

Speaker 52 The Jags, you can make the argument that the Jags are much better.

Speaker 37 than the Kansas City Chiefs when you look at the game flow, when you consider they had to come back, when you consider the huge fumble at the goal line, when you consider what you just outlined with that final drive, they were not making winning plays all that much outside of Devin Lloyd and Travis Hunter's incredible catch.

Speaker 40 It was a little confusing, especially when Kansas City is playing so well on offense.

Speaker 11 Think, though, just think about what you said about the Chiefs on the goal line, the precision and the discipline that makes it. When Patrick Mahomes throws a pick six that goes 99 yards,

Speaker 11 you guys all react as if a spaceship had landed on the field because it's something that you don't expect. Now pair that against how Trevor Lawrence did things from the one-yard line.

Speaker 11 Just yesterday, where I thought he was going to keep falling falling back until he was on his own goal line.

Speaker 11 And that play, even though he scored on it, wildly dangerous for him to be doing any of that in an out-of-control fashion where he's not paying attention necessarily to how he has the ball because he's in total panic.

Speaker 24 Right, especially with an open receiver because the defender collapsed is hugely improbable.

Speaker 35 Not just the pick six, but the fact that, as we highlighted, Lloyd outran Taquan Thornton, who runs a 4-2-7-5.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 38 I don't understand what I saw last night.

Speaker 24 The Jags might be legitimately good.

Speaker 11 They're really talented.

Speaker 27 They might be legitimately good because they didn't play an A-plus game to beat this dynastic Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 11 They cannot be really good because they're going to do something to screw it up in a big moment because they're wildly undisciplined.

Speaker 45 Jacksonville was gifted that game. I have seldom seen the championship-era Chiefs under Andy Reid look like they did last night.

Speaker 45 Dumb penalties throughout the game, bad special teams, Defense completely losing that game.

Speaker 45 It was gifted to Jacksonville. I don't give much credit to the Jaguars for winning that game.
I think Kansas City just took a big giant crap on national TV.

Speaker 25 Duval.

Speaker 11 Can you play the sound of their owner, Shad Khan, who's still trying to get over the urban mire of it all? He's still trying to shake it.

Speaker 19 This clip I want to play is actually from weeks ago, but I just, he's so happy to have a winner.

Speaker 14 This is what we envisioned in January, okay? Sir, it's happening here in September.

Speaker 35 Gonna go on forever.

Speaker 18 Forever!

Speaker 45 Forever. Talk to me in December.
Anybody who thinks the Jaguars are a Super Bowl contender is high. What? You're high on dope.

Speaker 11 They're very talented, Greg.

Speaker 45 Dude, they're very talented. Their defense is hugely improved, but this is not a team that's going to scare anybody.

Speaker 18 Greg, all right, let's talk this out.

Speaker 32 How would you grade their performance last night?

Speaker 36 Give it a letter grade.

Speaker 45 I would give it a C plus to B.

Speaker 18 All right,

Speaker 9 he said A a couple times before he landed on C plus.

Speaker 18 I agree.

Speaker 44 C plus seems fair.

Speaker 10 They just beat the Kansas City Chiefs with a C plus effort.

Speaker 40 If that team meets its ceiling, they can beat anyone in that conference.

Speaker 22 Forever!

Speaker 11 And they beat the Chiefs with the Chiefs playing a style of football that has evaded them for the better part of two years.

Speaker 30 I mean, Pacheco was getting up every play flexing.

Speaker 9 Pacheco was even back.

Speaker 40 That was a Kansas City offensive performance that we've been longing to see.

Speaker 48 And the Jags mustered up a C-plus effort and came back from multiple scores down and had to win in the game's final moments.

Speaker 23 Like, that's impressive.

Speaker 32 I come away from that performance thinking the Jags are going to be a problem if they make it to the playoffs because they could throw up a Jake Browning type performance.

Speaker 11 You guys say this, though, because

Speaker 11 when you talk about the fact that some of this stuff is random and not repeatable, what do you do with what I'm about to say? Because maybe their defense is usually improved, maybe.

Speaker 11 Or maybe they had nine takeaways in 17 games last year, and they've already got 14 this year. Like, you guys think that's real?

Speaker 11 You think you can keep taking the football away at a pace that would allow you to have 14 takeaways in five games that would skew all the results because that's an absurd number.

Speaker 11 They've already got five more this year than they had all of last year.

Speaker 45 Yeah, and that's a stat that usually correlates to winning. It doesn't always, the Dolphins have had five takeaways in the last two games and lost them both or lost one of them.

Speaker 45 But in this case, Jacksonville, they can't, that's not repetitive. You can't have that pace all time.

Speaker 33 Greg, to your point of things not being repetitive, not just the turnover stat, which definitely seems like that'll come down a bit, but remember how they had everybody fold last year with their ability to win one-score games?

Speaker 33 They were 11-0 in one-score games last year, even even though their numbers reflected something closer to the Giants.

Speaker 14 We thought, okay, well, that could be a skill when you have the GOAT under center.

Speaker 27 You see their record this season in one score games?

Speaker 40 Yeah, they lose them all

Speaker 11 because that largely isn't an ability, but Patrick Mahomes did what he had to do at the end of that game to win it.

Speaker 11 What do you make, though, of the fact that the Jags have 14 takeaways and no other team in the league has 10? Like, that's, it's just an it's an enormous amount of turnovers that they've caused.

Speaker 11 And I don't think it's because their defense is that good.

Speaker 15 I mean, but the plays that they're actually making, it doesn't seem like super fluky.

Speaker 32 It's not, you know, Arizona Cardinals, Titans, football is bouncing off feet.

Speaker 51 I mean, they're making really good plays.

Speaker 39 It's not Bryce Young just throwing the ball right for Bradley Chuck.

Speaker 26 There you go. Here's a guy.

Speaker 25 I mean, and they did 4J Browning.

Speaker 11 It's 14.

Speaker 11 Like

Speaker 11 when everyone's protecting the football and they've got 14, Trevor Lawrence has nine game-winning drives. They've got 14 turnovers in five games.

Speaker 19 They lead in differential. They're plus eight, but you have teams like the Steelers are plus seven.
The Saints are plus five. The Chiefs are plus four.

Speaker 19 These teams that are not having a lot of success in winning football games are also right near the top of the league in that differential.

Speaker 19 So while their turnover rate in terms of causing them might go down, you would hope, if you're looking at this team, you're four and one, that Trevor Lawrence's turnover rate could potentially go down as well.

Speaker 19 You could look at him as Liam Cohen and say, look at at all the things we do well as a team. All you need to do is not mess it up.

Speaker 25 Move all.

Speaker 45 When I say that Jacksonville was gifted that game, Kansas City's offense was really good and it's getting better. They were good last night.

Speaker 45 Mahomes was good and now they have Rashi Rice coming back next week. The issue is their defense was terrible last night.
Special teams made errors. You know, penalties all over the field.

Speaker 45 Andy Reid had to be embarrassed by his team last night. Not because they lost, but how they lost.

Speaker 11 You must have had the Chiefs and plus three or minus three and a half. The way that you're talking, you had a terrible week picking games.

Speaker 45 I had a terrible week, and there were six or seven games. You had the Chiefs.
Including Miami and Kansas City. There were six or seven teams that had double-digit leads and all lost the game.

Speaker 45 And I think I was on the wrong side of all six or seven of those games.

Speaker 11 What did you end up going? You always want us to talk about your picks around here.

Speaker 18 Only when I have a good week.

Speaker 11 you what did you end up having was it uh how bad a week was it it was four and ten four and ten against the spread no straight up

Speaker 45 it might have been better i haven't figured it out yet it probably was better against the spread the way my weekend went but four and ten

Speaker 11 worst it affects your analysis you do realize when you get emotional about your picks losing you just called a game in which the chiefs scored eight uh 28 points and patrick mahomes led what could have been the game-winning drive if trevor lawrence had just kept Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 45 Yeah, and if the Kansas City defense had shown up for the game.

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Speaker 11 The thing about Trevor Lawrence, he threw two dots on that drive. Like the throw to Brian Thomas in double coverage, Brian Thomas is not open and he's always open.

Speaker 11 That was that was the one play the Chiefs knew not to allow, but it couldn't be stopped. The way the way the ball was thrown, it was not possible to stop that, but they had it covered.
Like,

Speaker 11 that's not a failure of the Chiefs. That was a play being made on third and 13, 35 yards down the field, by the only guy on the Jags who was going to do that.

Speaker 11 And the Chiefs had, I remember this happened one time, this happened one time to Dave Wansted, who was under just enormous duress in Miami. And they go up to Buffalo and they call

Speaker 11 against an all-out blitz, the perfect screen pass at the perfect time that would have gone easily 80 yards. And Jay Fiedler just threw it to a defensive lineman.

Speaker 11 If he had just thrown it over, he just threw it to a defensive lineman.

Speaker 11 And so the perfect coaching call ended up in failure because as Tyreek Hill and others say all the time, even if the play is garbage, it's our job to execute it.

Speaker 11 The play Jacksonville won with that throw to Brian Thomas was perfect. It couldn't be stopped by a champion, and they were ready for it.
Like, he was in double coverage.

Speaker 11 It's not possible to cover that person with that throw with any two defensive backs in the league playing in that defensive posture.

Speaker 1 Lawrence wasn't scared of McDuffie.

Speaker 23 McDuffie was blanketing Thomas a couple of times, and Lawrence was still being aggressive.

Speaker 30 So, I think Liam Cohen's always, I mean, he OC'd Baker before.

Speaker 36 He's one of these guys that isn't so scared of turnovers.

Speaker 9 We mentioned how they have this ability to make up for their offensive deficiencies by causing turnovers on the defensive end.

Speaker 15 What I like about Liam Cohen is he tells his quarterbacks, go for it.

Speaker 32 We can live with certain turnovers.

Speaker 51 Stretch the ball. Take the chances.

Speaker 9 Trust yourself.

Speaker 45 And Travis Hunter, by the way, made an...

Speaker 11 excellent catch on that other deep ball that that uh that t-law it'll be the death of them playing that way If everyone else in the league is playing the other way, if they're counting on we're going to strip more turnovers than our quarterback's going to make,

Speaker 11 if that's what they're counting on, formulaically, I don't trust their quarterback not to do boneheaded stuff in important moments.

Speaker 14 And on the other side of the coin, Mahomes and that offense is back when they have like three sub-4-3 wide receivers because Jacksonville was playing two high safeties most of the night and it didn't freaking matter.

Speaker 32 Mahomes was hunting the big plays.

Speaker 27 So for someone that misses that aspect, he had both offenses, not really caring what the other team was going to do or how effective they were still taking their chances.

Speaker 29 Prime NFL game yesterday.

Speaker 18 T-Law?

Speaker 45 Yeah, I've been calling Trevor Lawrence T-Law for a while.

Speaker 19 It seemed like you were searching for his name and then you pulled T-Law out.

Speaker 45 Well, I was searching for his nickname because it hasn't caught on. But it's a great nickname and you got to admit it and you know it, right?

Speaker 18 I like him.

Speaker 21 It's his fault it hasn't caught on. If he played better, it would.

Speaker 20 I think so, Billy.

Speaker 45 Not you. Yeah, I think Billy's nailed it right on the head.

Speaker 45 But that's one of the reasons why I say, despite the result last night, despite Jacksonville's 4-1 record in where Kansas City is, the Chiefs 100%

Speaker 45 are the bet to get back to the Super Bowl over Jacksonville.

Speaker 11 I don't think that's true. Who's taking that bet?

Speaker 21 Or the Jaguars who will go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 45 Oh, I would make that bet and take Kansas City.

Speaker 11 Well, you've been wrong most famously this week with all of your picks, but

Speaker 11 you've been wrong all year about the Dolphins, and now you have finally decided to shed your homer label. Billy, do you have Greg Cody's behind a paywall column back there?

Speaker 11 Can you read a couple of paragraphs to us from Greg Cody's column so that I can finally hear what it sounds like for Greg Cody,

Speaker 11 you know, four weeks after the rest of us abandoning the season?

Speaker 21 There's a lot here, so I'll go towards the middle. Quote, a starving man will beg, borrow, or steal for food.

Speaker 21 A Miami Dolphins fan should be able to relate this season when it comes to the hunger for winning, for something good to happen.

Speaker 18 Wow.

Speaker 45 And surrounding that was the fact that you're up 17-0.

Speaker 19 That's what I want to see against a bad team. I want to see that column in the first quarter you started writing.

Speaker 18 What was that looking like in the first quarter?

Speaker 11 What was that colour? Since you have early deadlines,

Speaker 11 what had you written that you had to kill that makes you this mad at the Dolphins? Because all of your interests are self-interest.

Speaker 40 Yeah, true.

Speaker 11 And everything that you write is tinted with the emotions of how does this affect me?

Speaker 45 Yeah, well, when they're up 17-0, I'm writing a Dolphins win column, obviously.

Speaker 19 And I'm right. Look how good.
C, two, and three, like I said.

Speaker 45 No, but I am saying this. I'm saying two wins in a row, albeit against bad teams.

Speaker 45 I'm saying you've got the Chargers next who just lost to the Giants, then you've got the Browns and the Falcons after that.

Speaker 19 You're pulling a Billy. You're just schedule looking.

Speaker 45 All of a sudden, it doesn't look so bad for those of you out there who were setting bonfires and firing everybody at 0-3.

Speaker 45 You don't look so good right now, but all of that flipped because when you blow a 17-0 lead, I don't care if it's on the road against a bad team, the way they blew it, Rico Dowdle is Walter Payton all of a sudden, only when he plays the Dolphins.

Speaker 45 It was a disgusting performance. I thought it was the worst performance of the season.
And the opener in Indianapolis was so bad they had to fumigate the entire city

Speaker 45 by the stench the Dolphins left there. And Sunday was worse.

Speaker 11 Are you doing your column now?

Speaker 18 You're before you?

Speaker 25 The Payton thing was in there.

Speaker 50 The fumigating the city was in there.

Speaker 25 We went over the schedule and you're doing all the stuff.

Speaker 18 The Dolphins X fits.

Speaker 5 The Dolphins X play a Chargers team that lost to the Giants a week ago.

Speaker 21 Then it's the Browns and Falcons. Optimism?

Speaker 2 Anybody?

Speaker 26 Was the Rico?

Speaker 20 Was the Rico stuff in there? Rico.

Speaker 25 Rico was in there, too.

Speaker 11 So what are you doing? You're coming in here unprepared and late, and then you're just giving us recycled from your column?

Speaker 26 The best of. It's good.

Speaker 21 I I mean had I not told you you guys wouldn't have known you would have thought that he was just rolling with it.

Speaker 20 Thank you very much

Speaker 45 so they had to fumigate the entire city did they because of the way the dolphins played in the opener and somehow they were worse on Sunday.

Speaker 11 Billy read some more of the column so I could get it fresh before he spills from his mouth as recycled material.

Speaker 21 The dolphins seemed up 17-0 to take the win for granted.

Speaker 43 The lack of killer instinct killed them.

Speaker 21 Bottom line is not good enough, McDaniel said.

Speaker 21 We are a much better team than letting a 17-0 lead eviscerate.

Speaker 20 Are they, though?

Speaker 21 Evidently not.

Speaker 41 I mean, is eviscerate used correctly there?

Speaker 18 No, he's not.

Speaker 41 It's evaporate, isn't it?

Speaker 45 Yeah, he was a little flamboyant with that reference. But people are really getting touched on it.

Speaker 11 Did he get it wrong or did you get it wrong?

Speaker 26 No, no, that was a quote where he said.

Speaker 35 Same quotes, yeah.

Speaker 16 I think you got flamboyant wrong.

Speaker 18 Did I?

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 11 You thought that that was the one that is the reason the season is dead, or that's the one that made you angriest because it made you most wrong, made your pick most wrong, made you rewrite your column, and made you look like a fool.

Speaker 30 Both.

Speaker 11 I think there was more than both.

Speaker 18 There was more than both.

Speaker 18 There was more than two options on the board, but it's okay. All of them, then.

Speaker 45 Whatever. Don't nitpick me.

Speaker 45 The dolphin bandwagon is now in a ditch in flames. Thank God there was nobody in it.
Even the driver jumped out the window before it careened off into the gully.

Speaker 18 You should show up late more often.

Speaker 11 Do you fire everybody? Do you fire because Zaslow five Zaszlo every week is firing firing McDaniel.

Speaker 11 Well, what are you doing?

Speaker 45 Well, listen, the second best coach on the team is the defensive coordinator who leads the worst defense in the history of football. So whenever anybody says, fire the coach,

Speaker 45 my thing is, who's going to replace him? I don't think there's any benefit to firing the coach during this season.

Speaker 45 What I think, and I've said it all along, is that if they don't make the playoffs, which now seems all but a certainty, he will be fired, and so will Chris Greer.

Speaker 45 And they will start cleaning house and the he's going to get fired.

Speaker 11 The question is whether it's before the end of the season or at the end of the season.

Speaker 45 I would agree with you, except if they have the miracle finish, if they finish 9-8,

Speaker 11 and make a one-year-old.

Speaker 41 Just please stop.

Speaker 18 Just please stop saying that. Just stop saying it.

Speaker 41 Just stop saying it.

Speaker 41 Just stop saying it.

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