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Does he get that today?

I'm not totally sure.

He beat Shams by two minutes to the story that the FBI has descended upon the NBA as soon as the season starts and is yanking players and coaches off the court because, hey, turns out gambling with your sports can be kind of dangerous if the athletes and coaches are involved when they're not supposed to be and using their own

moral compasses.

Adam Silver's having a good year.

Cash Patel is going to do a dog and pony show at 10 a.m.

to show everybody that it's all Terry Rozier's fault.

He's joining us.

Chris Cody, he's doing a press conference.

He's doing something different.

He's doing a 10 a.m.

press conference that has engulfed the sport and the sports world so much that Chris Cody,

fed this kind of information that he doesn't have a lot of familiarity with, says, look, Terry Rozier feeling kind of lucky today when Chauncey Billops' name is associated with the gambling probe.

And then I just hear from the other side of the room, he's going to federal prison, Chris.

I didn't say he's happy, happier.

Yeah, but optics are important, Chris.

You're a happier than he was before the Chauncey thing dropped.

No.

I think he is.

He's like, all right, he can be the lead now.

No, no.

I got second billing.

Nope, nope.

He was cleared by the NBA, and then the FBI says, no, the Fed say, no, you're not cleared.

And all Mike Ryan is doing is trying to figure out how much salary cap does this space cause.

How much salary cap space is this team going to get because of the relief of finally Terry Rozier, one of the least popular athletes in the history of South Florida, according to only Mike Ryan.

Only Mike Ryan.

Look at that smile on his face.

Oh, this is one of the happiest days.

I believe Mike Ryan.

He's playing happy music all day.

I believe Mike Ryan is happier today than he was with either of the Panther championships.

Ooh, it's right up there.

I think you're going to go over to 11 and start partying in the morning to celebrate that Terry Rozier is coming off the books.

I'm getting text messages congratulating me like I got a promotion.

That part's weird.

I was playing Katrina in the waves this morning.

I got a perma smile.

Look at me.

I'm my best self right now.

That NBA investigation.

We should talk a little bit about that.

He was cleared by the NBA.

I'm sure they'll turn it around with this whole Kawhi thing.

We're going to have David Sampson on to explain to us an unholy mess in the NBA.

And this day has been coming for a while because

you can only have so many Jante Porters before people realize.

A Hall of Famer got arrested.

He has no business being in that Hall of Famer.

Wait a minute.

Don't make it a Hall of Famer.

No, no, no, no.

Like, he is in this century a face of the game.

He is a Hall of Fame player, a champion, and a current head coach.

A Hall of Famer.

A Hall of Famer being arrested for this is not as big as an active coach being arrested for this.

An active coach being arrested for this is a much bigger problem than than Hall of Famer was gambling, happier, right?

But you know, Chauncey Phillips is both.

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I thought I was going to start with Tua is now too small and can't see his receiver.

This guy.

And is Johnny Manzel in another uniform?

I thought I was going to start with the Heater going to be better than people think they are because they're going to score more.

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But the place we're going to stay, I'm imagining, all show today, is a really uncommon scandal, multiple scandals now because Adam Schefter is wandering over from football to say that the Chauncey Billup report, the arrest, is about a separate

gambling ring tied to the mafia and poker games and is not tied to betting on games.

Terry Rozier has been arrested by the feds, and at 10 a.m., Cash Pratel is going to have a press conference because the federal government is going to make a big show of arresting athletes who are misbehaving around money because the NBA may have cleared Terry Rozier and is going to have some explaining to do today, but the feds have not cleared Terry Rozier.

They have arrested him.

And while an arrest is not guilt, it is still innocent until proven guilty.

This is the kind of mess that the NBA did not ever want to have, but knew it was coming as soon as gambling started becoming normalized.

And I want people to understand, I've written about this before, when competitionaholics aren't on the court at the highest gladiator spectacle level of we play in front of millions every day, they're gambling and competing like that on airplanes, in card games, with giant amounts of money.

And when you retire, that doesn't.

Like, your money may be gone, but the desire to compete at that level, some people will call it just competition and get rewarded for it.

Others will call it gambling addiction, and all of a sudden you're in way over your head.

Very few of the people who escalate to the place that Terry Rozier now finds himself in see it coming as it escalates and as debts rise and as they realize, wait, wait a minute, I've been gambling like this on airplanes all my life.

What do you mean I'm in trouble now that I can't afford it?

Okay, so at the risk of sounding super ignorant, Chauncey Billups apparently,

he has been arrested by the FBI in connection with illegal gambling tied to the mafia.

We're talking poker games, stuff like that.

What?

That's illegal to play poker games?

Well, the tied to the mafia thing, I think, is something to look at.

And I know you mentioned Adam Schefter, who shared the story, but it was ABC's reporting that said, while it's separate, some games may have connection to this poker game in their investigation.

There seems to be a tether, like, we'll see.

And we'll apologize for any news that we get wrong or conjecture, as this is a lot of news coming in in a quick amount of time.

NBC News went out and reported that the things that surround Chauncey Billips don't involve any games that he was actively coaching in.

There will be more names and more information coming out over the course of the day, and I will reiterate what Mike just said.

Forgive us if we're a little sloppy here on the front end as this is a lot of stuff happening early in the morning and it's pretty seismic, okay?

Because it's no longer

Jante Porter and some prop bets.

You now have names associated with gambling that make this the risk that has always been involved, that the leagues were always afraid of.

I've told you before, Zaslow, one of the great shocks of my lifetime is seeing the NFL in Vegas.

Having an NFL team in Vegas, given what the NFL was was for 10 years in terms of being vigilant, about we have to be very careful that nothing affects the integrity of our game.

So we're going to have a whole lot of, I'm assuming.

Terry Rozier is just the start.

They don't do this kind of show at 10 a.m.

involving the federal government if they've just got to Terry Rozier.

There's been a lot of dog and pony shows lately to distract people from God knows what.

But I would say that I know, let's address the elephant in the room.

Our show is presented by draft kings and a lot of people are going where you're going which is like well if this is legal in more states then what do you think is going to happen gambling is not new athletes gambling is not new what is new is this being a regulated market and these companies sharing data with their league partners because bookies aren't flagging things to the nba that's what's different the only thing that's different in terms of society is these betting partners are now sharing data and you're able to catch these people because this has been going on for a very long time and a lot of people, a lot of great names have gotten away with it.

I'm glad you pointed that out because that's obviously going to be a major talking point today that this is why it's terrible for these pro leagues to be in bed with the gambling companies and that is just not true because how many Terry Rogers have they been over the last hundred years

before it was regulated The fact that we have this relationship now and that it is legal and in most states and it is regulated is why we're able to catch guys like Terry Rozier.

This is actually a good thing.

You can buck up against that and say availability.

You were right there, pal?

I know it's accessible, but it's accessible to sloppy criminals.

Hold on, hold on, okay.

To say that Terry Rozier is involved in a gambling probe that involves his federal arrest, and that Chauncey Billips is playing poker games with the mafia.

I'm not willing to say just yet that this is good.

Give me a day, give me a day to process the information arriving on my doorstep that is different than any I've seen that involves a coach in a mafia poker game before I say this is good.

The integrity of sport matters.

You have to know that the result is legitimate.

Every single time

we're talking about these games decided by these super thin margins, you have to have the comfort as a customer that none of what you're watching is professional wrestling, that everything that you're watching is real and uncompromised by some of these immoralities that can be a very, very thin lines, as as between

Chauncey Billips is in mafia poker games, Chauncey Billops is making game time decisions that affect the results of the games as the leader and coach.

I'm not willing to go where you are yet.

I'm not willing to go where Cash Patel is yet either because they're going to make a big show of this.

And I will wait to see what is actually true and what isn't true.

You are correct when you are saying there are more chances to catch people and throw them into the light.

I will reserve judgment on whether that's good on the customer to see how many athletes are doing this.

Wait a minute.

It was as a dirty secret that was in private.

I liked it better then when I knew that my results,

that my results might not be fishy.

No, I appreciate you tugging on the opposite side of the line, but illegal card games with the mafia have nothing to do with sports books being illegal and individuals.

Again, why is it illegal?

What makes a card game illegal?

I mean, you can't track any of the income.

You can't track anything that'spect and the amount of money involved.

And I know, I'm going to say this again, okay?

Look up Gilbert Arenas' career earnings for me, please.

You guys don't understand what these poker games are on these flights.

The amount of money involved, the amount of fights because of the amount of money, the amount of money you have to be betting for it

to matter.

It feels like so.

For Tyrone Hill to get punched by Charles Oakley because things have escalated to such a place that now you're fighting your teammates, your brothers, your fellow soldiers, because an amount of money that hurts you on a plane when Sean McVay would have his Ram sleeping,

the amount of money that you've lost on a plane makes

team chemistry worse because all of a sudden two guys don't like each other because somebody just lost a quarter million dollars on the plane.

Gilbert Arenas Arenas has made $163 million in his 13-year career.

So, so he, I don't know what the true details are.

I've seen some of what's reported.

I don't know what happened with Gilbert Arenas and what kind of circles he's running in.

And for people who don't remember, it was a couple months ago he was arrested for like renting out a home to a

poker out on bail turned it into content.

There's a lot of illegal poker games that happen pretty much with impunity.

I think the connection to the mafia, a criminal enterprise, for those that don't know, know, is and the fact that from reporting from NBC,

this does seem to be related to the NBA in some form or fashion.

It's not a coincidence that these things are coming out at the exact same time, I don't believe.

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if they lose in Miami.

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If they lose in Miami, they don't got a chance in Boston.

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And you know what?

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This is the Don Levatar show with these two guys.

We will find out together on some of this stuff.

Apparently, Damon Jones has now also been arrested.

It's always the guy you expect the most.

You know what?

That turnover in game seven in 2000, like, we had the lead.

With 90 seconds left, it was such a bad giveaway.

Just give the ball a shack.

This makes so much sense now, Damon Jones.

Amin has, we're behaving like a real news operation.

Amin has now just flown to Pablo's side in New York.

He was supposed to be here today, but Pablo is out in front on this story.

Some of his producers,

I won't name them, have been calling Shams a bootlicker because they beat him by two minutes to this story.

And they have more information.

Pablo's team has been following this for a while.

And so we're going to get more and more information as

today progresses.

But the thing that I wanted to stop you on again when you say this is a good thing.

I want to go ahead and let you imagine.

Just imagine if I told you right now, hey, did you guys know that Spo was like friends with the mafia?

Did you guys know that there were poker games?

Like you see how it's not a big stretch.

Like once you're playing the poker game with the mafia, it's not a big stretch to they get into you.

And now all of a sudden you got a Tim Donaghy situation.

Like it's, it's just not, nobody thinks,

nobody

thinks when Terry Rozier is being arrested and hauled off to jail by the feds, he did not see this escalating to this point.

Wherever it is that he was gambling and doing whatever it is that he was doing, this is not the end result that he considered or he never would have done it.

If he thought that this was the risk, that, wait a minute, my career is immediately over?

My ability to make $26 million a year is immediately over.

It's the same thing I used to say when Michael Vick got arrested for dogfighting.

There's simply no way he thought that those were the consequences on dogfighting or he would have stopped dogfighting.

Terry Rogier, definitely so bad at hiding it.

Too many air balls.

I'm a victim in all of this.

Yeah, you are.

The Miami Heater victims.

The salary shouldn't come off the books.

We were defrauded.

The same way Steve Ballmer alleges he was defrauded.

This is bad.

The league needs to do something about this.

I may sue for damages.

You need damages.

I saw what you became over the last year since.

I didn't recognize that person.

I didn't like basketball.

I didn't like the person I saw.

I had to find my smile.

You lost your joy.

I lost my smile.

You found it this morning.

Oh, I did.

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It's a good song.

I should point out that, according to NBC News, Damon Jones, who has been arrested by the FBI in connection

with the charges being announced today, there is no indication that he is tied to bets on games he played, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

No matter what Zaszlo is claiming about a turnover 20 years ago with 90 seconds left in the game.

We were up by two.

We were about to go to the finals.

So give it a shot.

Give it a shot.

Give it a shack.

He was an underachiever.

There's an update in the ABC News article that says Miami Heat Guard Terry Rozier and former Cleveland Cavaliers player and assistant, Coach Damon Jones, were also charged in a separate but related illegal gambling case.

They're among six people charged Thursday with turning professional basketball into a criminal gambling operation by using inside information to place unlawful wagers.

So while not necessarily betting themselves on games that they played in, this does sort of tie to what you're talking about, Dan, which is who knows who you have debt to and what you then need to turn these games into.

I understand that it's more regulated than it's ever been, and I would also say it's just as hard to regulate as it's ever been because the more normal it gets, the less wrong people think it is.

And those people wear uniforms and those people have debt and those people have competition problems and those people have their own addictions and those people have a lack of awareness and some of them are going to get arrested for doing the wrong things when you have more regulation and more normalization that requires what is presently happening for people to realize what the consequences are of what they're actually doing.

Because I assure you, Michael Vick wasn't the only one fighting dogs, but I bet you it lessened after that when everyone realized how wrong it was to fight dogs.

Gambling isn't this kind of wrong.

Gambling is now a super normal thing.

Yeah, the NCAA just said that players and coaches can do this.

Beginning November 1st, players in the NCAA can gamble on pro games, not college games.

They still can't gamble on college games.

Yeah,

I've been gambling since I was 18, and I did so in a state, and I did so in a state where I couldn't.

I probably shouldn't be saying that.

No, you shouldn't.

I'm not, maybe I'm jaded.

I don't think there's really a huge influx in gambling just because you see ads for DraftKings or you see it courtside.

I really don't.

I think the people that are gambling to this level in these sports have access to all that stuff and always have.

And I just don't think it's more prevalent.

I think more dumb people are doing it.

We've seen a lot in the state of Iowa when it comes to their college football teams.

A lot of people don't understand how these league partners share data.

And so you're having a lot of

small fish.

But I think

the big fish,

the card games, the guys trying to get one less rebound in a game, I think that that's been happening happening way longer than most people would like to admit.

Are you indeed seeking counsel to

sue whom?

Who are you suing?

The Miami Heat, Terry Rozier, the NBA?

Yeah, who do we come out?

Who are you suing for what your experience as a Heat fan has been?

Look, you were, I heard no one in the country, no one in the country as sour on the Miami Heat trading for Terry Rozier as you were.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that you left the Miami Heat in many of the similar ways that you left the Cleveland Browns because they acquired Terry Rozier.

You were so upset that they acquired such a wildly inefficient player that you have said that it is that he is the least popular player in Heat history, according to you, and they've never made a transaction that has hurt you more personally than signing Terry Rozier.

So what you're really celebrating today is not just the release release from the Terry Rozier imprisonment, not just the salary cap space, it's also one of Mike's favorite things, which is just being right.

Oh, yeah, it's the best.

Oh,

I shorted this stock long ago.

And as someone that has been screaming at his television, that person should be in jail for years on end.

This is

a dream come true.

Honestly, you love it when the bad guys get caught.

I'm telling you, like, I'm happy for you that you're able to get your joy back.

But then there's another side of this, where it was one of the worst nights of my life at that time.

The Miami Heat had never been to an NBA Finals.

They were ahead with two minutes left.

And look, look at this, Dan.

I remember it clear as day.

Damon Jones, there it is.

Damon Jones.

The Heat were ahead by two, just like I said.

That was indeed a playoff score in 2005.

They were ahead by two.

They were ahead by two with two minutes left in game seven.

And Damon Jones just throw them on a shack.

Look at that.

He threw the ball away.

Something was up.

Now I know.

And you know who else was playing in this game?

Who?

Chauncey Phillips.

Got to overturn that result.

Time to throw away all journalistic credibility and get reckless.

Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.

I knew it.

Hold on.

You're good.

Hold on.

You got to wait for Roy's.

You're good.

Look, Tim Donaghy, 06, Dwayne Wade's free throws.

We're even now.

We were jobbed.

Damon Jones makes that bad pass.

At two minutes, two seconds.

Tayshawn Prince steals the ball.

Richard Hamilton.

You got

Richard Hamilton Hamilton makes a three-foot jumper five seconds later.

And 20 years later, the Heat acquired Terry Rozier.

Look, I know 06 was controversial, but we've paid for it in droves.

So you're alleging that Terry Rozier should be arrested today for being a crime against basketball?

Yes, just for his field goal percentage.

I think that's one of the charges.

We'll see when the great KP talks.

Put it on the poll at Lebetard Show.

I do love that the guy arresting them is named Cash.

Yeah, the podcaster.

He works hard.

Put it on the poll at Lebatard's show.

Should Terry Rozier be arrested for his field gold percentage?

And also put on the poll, should Terry Rozier be arrested first for being a crime against basketball, one of many felony counts.

There are so many things popping up.

It's got to be like whack-a-mole, but I do want to follow the vine that Zaz established.

Hell of a year for Adam Silver.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, a lot of trust in him.

The NBA,

a lot of this fell on Shams because Shams reported just the news that the NBA cleared Terry Rozier of any wrongdoing.

And now the FBI has arrested Terry Rozier for wrongdoing.

The NBA investigated this.

Piss-poor investigation, it would seem just reading the game as we see it this morning.

The NBA has a lot of tough questions to answer, yet again.

This,

it just keeps getting worse for Adam Silver.

That's why I have no faith in Adam Silver doing anything about Kawhi Letter.

I have no faith.

No, Kawhi's probably a little nervous because, like, here comes the overcorrection.

The real question is, should Damon Jones be arrested for not passing to Shaq?

I'm telling you, Dan, I remembered it.

How do I remember almost 20 years later?

Like it was yesterday.

I knew something was fishy.

I knew it.

But Dan, the Adam Silver conversation, because before this, we were saying he's gone from regarded as the best commissioner in sports to the worst of the major sports.

And

hold my beer.

We just got way worse than ever.

The storyline on this is easy to track, right?

David Stern was going to be very difficult to replace.

You never follow the guy

who is the guy.

David Stern never behaved as if he worked for the owners.

It always felt like the owners had to behave because of how David Stern was behaving.

It made him different from most commissioners not named Kennesaw Mountain Landis.

Like most commissioners have been pushovers for a long time, pretending like the owners aren't in charge while everyone knows that the owners are in charge.

David Stern handed that over to Silver.

We were going to have a lot of questions and the first thing Silver does is win public opinion during the time by taking an owner's team immediately.

And it wasn't because David, it isn't because Adam Silver is such a great commissioner.

It's because all the other owners were already embarrassed by Donald Sterling and wanted him out for an assortment of other reasons.

reasons.

And so what looked like a hard decision that was made swiftly was actually an easy decision that was made over a long period of time.

And that was the last drop in the bucket.

So that's where

Adam Silver got best and most progressive commissioner in the league.

And since then, The league has had a number of different difficulties.

But if you were measuring this the way that you measure Goodell, you'd say Silver's a great commissioner because he makes the league a lot of money.

But that's not the way you do it with Silver.

For some reason, that's not the way you do it with silver.

The league feels like it's got a lot of different problems, but one of the problems it doesn't have is money.

That's not a problem.

They've got all sorts of new revenue streams.

The thing that he's going to have to...

Malik Beasley's fate also hinges on this Department of Justice announcement that is coming later today, according to Pablo Torre.

And that Malik Beasley was previously investigated and cleared by the NBA.

As we know that doesn't mean Jack anymore for making a bet or two in another sport.

Pablo goes on to cite a source that says the NBA is under strict confidentiality, but you can't control what the government releases.

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Teammates can't shoot from three.

Now they're gonna see a different Jimmy.

Now he's just just playing nickel back in the locker room, and Stugats.

They'll play D and show threes as they chase the Nets for the sixth seed.

These five words in his head, scream are we winning games yet?

This is the Dan Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Terry Rozier

has earned over $133 million in his 10-year career.

His current heat contract is $26.6 million.

To the point you guys were making

about

the fact that gambling is more normalized, and you know that we think that DraftKings is the greatest partner we've ever had by leaps and bounds.

The regulation of these things make it so that we know the following and it becomes hard to explain why the NBA cleared Rozier on what I'm about to say, the original detail on the Rozier reporting, which is a professional better placed 30 wagers in 46 minutes, all involving Terry Rozier in a 2023 game.

There's got a problem.

Oh, that's the problem is that he had too much information and he knew he was going to win.

Like, you don't make that many bets on just Terry Rozier unless you've got inside information.

That's the thing.

When you guys say this is more regulated than it's ever been, that kind of information is more available to the leagues than it's ever been, which becomes the question, how did the league clear Terry Rozier?

How did Shams report that the league cleared Terry Rozier and there were no follow-up questions until now in 30 minutes there's going to be a press conference where Cash Patel answers a bunch of follow-up questions.

I mean, because the commissioner of the league is the same one who said he's never heard of aspiration.

I mean, that's like, that's how.

I'd like some answers to questions.

They're usually not quite as simple as the knee-jerk reaction you can have moments after partial information has arrived.

I could connect the dots.

It's not the most journalistic of things to do, the connecting of dots, but it's all we have at the moment.

Until a half hour from now, they give us some more information on dots connected.

Will we have the unprecedented situation where we break in live to, should we do this?

Should we just break in live to an FBI director's press conference about sports because it involves a Miami Heat player?

The Miami Heat are going to be fun to watch.

They're going to play.

That is the fastest game I've ever seen the Heat play.

The Miami Heat have never played a game faster than the one they played last night.

That is the fastest recorded game in the history of the Miami Heat.

Only the Raptors and Hawks have played a faster game this year.

It was electric.

They scored 39 points in the first quarter.

I think that's the second most they've ever scored in a first quarter of an opening game.

And the pace, like they made the magic play at their pace.

A team that's that's defensive oriented and they were just running all night.

Simone Fontechio?

Simone Fontechio with 13 points running in the open court.

It was a lot of fun to watch.

And Davion Mitchell, like 11 assists, because he's just passing the ball up to court.

Norman Powell it was a lot of fun to watch yes you mentioned by four you mentioned yes you mentioned that it was I had fun

it was really fun for me to watch they lost by 40 in game one to the magic last year they lost by four last night the magic are good

Jaime Jaquez as your point guard in crunch time minutes though is not a good feeling the game was fun but

they got swept in the playoffs last year They lost all of their preseason games.

They lost last night.

Like, I'd like them to win a game sometimes.

That would be fun.

That'd be more fun on consecutive losses.

Like, let's mix it away.

They're going to play fast, and I believe they will be a playoff team,

but they're going to have trouble at the end of games.

So many of these games are decided late, and everybody stops running at the end of the game.

Like, toward the end of the game, you're not allowed to run around like that.

That is where Tyler Hero will help.

He is their best half-court player, and last night they don't have him.

Jaime Haquez is out there, like Chris said, running the offense.

And to have both both Norman Powell and Tyler Hero available to you, Norman Powell is really good.

And having an opportunity to really be the man here for the first few weeks will be great for him.

But he was a borderline all-star last year, and having another all-star guard next to him offensively will be helpful at the end of the games.

It doesn't mean they'll necessarily come through with all of them.

Dan, I got a text from my father last night.

Likes to text me during the games local teams play.

I got a text from my father last night at 7.36 p.m.

And all it says is, I don't know any of the heat players

i'm watching the coverage of this this is

i mean you understand why it's rocked the sporting world i'm telling you though like you got your eyes on terry rozier and chauncey billips when in 2002 do you have your eyes on marist versus writer because in college it should happen was this shit was always happening Always like you would see it on the blogs.

You would see it on message boards.

And now whether or not it played out that way, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.

But there has been people fixing basketball games in particular

forever,

forever.

And I'm glad that basketball is the, like, forget the individual game.

College hoops in particular, that is a cesspool of being fixed.

But basketball is the easiest of the major team sports, right?

Yeah, you could just get one player.

That's why you can affect the game more directly.

I suppose you can get a pitcher in baseball, but it's easier to fix basketball games because you just have to get in bed with one player.

And so Mike's not wrong when he says that this has been a normal thing since the Black Sox scandal in 1919, where you can have compromised athletes, athletes who are in debt.

I've told you the story before.

Travis Henry, the Buffalo Bills running back,

had,

I'm going to say, eight children and had a very short career span.

So what happens when he leaves the NFL and has gotten used to that lifestyle?

He gets caught for selling an enormous amount of drugs because there's no other way to make giant amounts of money.

You know how there is?

Play a giant poker game.

Play games where the gambling stakes are one flip of a card means a ton of money.

But then

When you get debt,

you get an arrest.

And I don't know the details, obviously, on Chauncey Billips.

I don't know how he could just be having fun poker games because he, as a coach, makes four million dollars a year and it's just a lot of fun.

But everywhere there can be a debt in one of these games if you're playing against mafia guys that you think are your friends, where next thing you know, you're underwater and you were, you didn't even know you were swimming.

You didn't know you were swimming and all of a sudden you're drowning.

I'm going to try to paint a picture where like one of the reports is inside information.

And this is all just theorizing and conjecture, right?

But you're at a poker game.

Someone asks you, what do you think about the

nuggets?

Well, Jokic has an ankle thing that most people don't know about.

Boom, inside information.

It could be like that.

It could be used like that.

Well, more to the point, I would say that the best of professional gamblers, not the sloppy ones, but the ones who know how to make it a business and the ones who know how to make it an occupation, they traffic in information.

It's the most valuable thing.

Inside information is the most valuable thing when you're talking about a half point buys you victory.

A half a point is all you need as an advantage when you're a professional gambler to be on the right side of winning.

The information brokering that goes on in sports, I don't need to explain to anybody why Traunce Billips can't be in a poker game with mafia members, right?

Why the coach of an NBA team can't be in a poker game with mafia members.

Well, also, we got to find out, do they introduce themselves as that?

Hello, what do you do for a living?

I'm in a criminal enterprise.

I just got to throw away, like, you're Taunc and Billups, because you're right.

Everything you just said.

How stupid can you be?

How stupid are you?

I mean, seriously.

I can see where a game of poker that you show up at don't necessarily know who's at it, what they do.

You don't want to know who's at a super high-stakes poker game you're about to show up at?

I think the whole idea is you're not supposed supposed to.

But it doesn't cross your mind that maybe, is it possible these are bad people?

Because, you know, I'm an NBA head coach.

Oh, how stupid can you be?

I get it.

A lot of this stuff is an IQ test.

But again, it's especially dumb in the pros.

It is because of how regulated this thing is.

But in college, we're baked into the sport is half the time.

What kind of shot is that?

What is this kid doing?

They're all developing.

So like college basketball, like I said, cesspool.

They're not all developing.

Some of them are G-Leaguers now in college basketball.

Where's the line on this?

Because I had a $20 buy-in in my house like two weeks ago.

Am I good?

No.

You're good.

Okay.

No, no.

Straight to jail.

Where's the line?

You just draw snitched player.

$20 buy-in and five people, $100.

Come on, what are we doing here?

Small cleans.

Well, that is an illegal game, though.

That's what I mean.

Where's the line?

Well, that's illegal, but I guess though.

Just keep talking.

We'll find out.

Hope your name isn't called in 30 minutes.

I would assume.

Am I in trouble?

I wonder.

Journalistically, I've told you guys before the rules on this have probably changed, but there was a time in my life where I was not allowed to take anything that had more than a $25 value.

Like, I could take a bag from you, and that wasn't compromising my integrity.

Yeah, yo.

Or should I say, yay, yo.

But not anything that's worth over $25.

I'm going to say that a $20 buy-in is so pathetic that the authorities would not be concerned in any ways.

I'm going to say that's what Chauncey did.

This is what I'm saying.

Mean people.

I'm saying there are people who have dedicated their lives to monkhood and religion who are laughing at how small time a game you're playing.

It's true.

Maybe it was bigger and I'm afraid.

I was worried that I revealed, like, hey, in the state of Florida, I sent a couple Western unions when I was 19 years old.

They care about money made.

We got to arrest this guy for losing $7,000 over the course of 10 years.

Get my friend Joey.

Okay, so you guys think that minorities are safe to commit small crimes in today's America?

Do you?

No, they can't fish, apparently.

If you think that they won't get you on federal wire fraud across state lines for something like that.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Easy.

Don't pay me like that.

Again, everything that I say here can't be taken seriously.

I am a character.

What do you mean again?

That's the first time you're revealing that.

I am a character.

Wait a minute, since when do you reveal that?

my name isn't even mike hold on a second oh my god this is infuriating right here let me explain let me see what i have here uh i have to have something i'm saying this on the record that penalizes you'll pick anything concentrated i am playing a role no you can't explain the show that way

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I mean, that wasn't the right button to hit the remember.

Makaga Song is tremendous shit show, but here we go.

Minor penalty, two minutes for explaining the show.

I don't know why you're starting your sentence with, again, I'm a character.

You've never before revealed you're a character.

We can't lose another cast member.

Amin just fled the premises.

Like, Pablo just took him.

Amin was here to do the show with us today.

I wanted to talk about inside the NBA.

They didn't change it.

ESPN left it alone.

Good.

How about Barkley very skinny very are you a little worried needs new suits okay

does he plan on going bigger again because he just had his suit is just too big like he's rich you'd think he for opening night he'd get a suit that fits but you guys have him as too skinny here you have him as too fit he really it's like blousy I'd call that suit It's got to be hard to fluctuate by 100 pounds, and you're not going to have all of the same right-fitting suits, but you're right that on the first

opening night, he should have one that fits correctly.

Did he do a Zempic?

Yes.

Okay.

No, Majerno, the other one.

There are 10 of them now.

Is that an exclusive report?

Do you happen to know?

Oh my God, did I just reveal something I wasn't supposed to?

Happens to know?

I think I just returned.

Great Scott, he happens to know.

He happens to know.

Gather, everyone.

Get the children.

He happens to know.

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