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Speaker 6 This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 7 This is the Dan Lebonard Show.

Speaker 7 Lucy's fine!

Speaker 9 Hey, Dan, it's your favorite Rodine,

Speaker 8 Lucy's dad. We're here in Iowa, Gohawks.
Your favorite employee, Rhodes, is here, and we're going to do a handshake.

Speaker 4 two, three.

Speaker 11 There you go. We get the rocks.

Speaker 4 Go Hawks.

Speaker 4 Here we are.

Speaker 4 Fight, sight, sight for Iowa.

Speaker 8 My name is Steve, like the Minecraft guy. We're at Iowa, Pinnock Stadium, iconic.

Speaker 10 How would you describe the Iowa game day experience? I would say electric.

Speaker 4 Yes!

Speaker 4 I think we'll be everybody will be

Speaker 13 you cannot get any better than this.

Speaker 11 It's gotta be the next thing to heaven, right?

Speaker 4 Honestly, not so bad.

Speaker 8 We came out expecting corn and it looks pretty good from our perspective. They've just been giving us shit we don't deserve, you know? We're just close from Penn State doing our best.

Speaker 10 The tailgating's good and the drinking is good.

Speaker 14 The last time I came here it was 10th, right? Because we were both in the top 10.

Speaker 4 But now it's great. Now it's great.

Speaker 10 What do we all have to lose?

Speaker 15 You know, being an Iowa fan though, it's all about the unexpected. And not too long ago, we were just rushing the field after we beat Penn State.

Speaker 10 That was like five years ago. That was actually a really long time ago.

Speaker 9 Oh, it's awesome. I love coming down here.
I come down here a couple times a year and I just, I really love it. It's like a family.

Speaker 13 This is actually my first Iowa game.

Speaker 13 I'm a Nebraska fan. Living in Iowa.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 10 Enough of that. We saw the game last night.
You probably don't want to speak on camera.

Speaker 8 Have you seen the corn machine over there?

Speaker 4 Pan, Pan, Pan. Wow.
wow, wow.

Speaker 8 That is what America is built on. America needs farmers.

Speaker 10 Do you ever wish Iowa could score more points? Um, obviously, but you know, we're just kind of used to it. Just you can't have high expectations.

Speaker 10 It kind of just feels like a tradition to not score that many points. How did you get your tickets for the game today?

Speaker 14 Oh, the game time app.

Speaker 10 Did you use a code?

Speaker 13 Code Lucy at checkout.

Speaker 10 Hell yeah, $20 off your first order, terms apply.

Speaker 10 This hat is so sweaty.

Speaker 10 So, we are here at the best tailgate in Iowa City. It's called Hawks to Go.
What makes not Hawk to Go like Chapel Roan? That's different. They did this before Chapel Roan.

Speaker 10 But what makes this tailgate so special is they sell shots. They do a special one for the opposing team, which this week is Penn State.
And then the home team, they'll sell you the shots.

Speaker 10 You take it on a fun little shot ski. You get the fun tailgating experience, and then all that money goes back to the University of Iowa Children's Hospital.

Speaker 11 Everything we do here is about the kids. 37 years ago, my brother's son, my nephew, had a no-soft spot.
He was saved by the University of Iowa hospitals.

Speaker 11 My brother and I drink a lot and we looked at each other. I think God was involved and we like, let's do shots for the kids.
I you not.

Speaker 10 They've been doing this for over a decade now and they have donated over $400,000 to the Stead Family Children's Hospital, which like what is better than getting drunk, watching football, and helping the kids.

Speaker 10 Winning football is up there, but it's not as good as that.

Speaker 4 It's like right under it.

Speaker 10 This is orange juice.

Speaker 4 Are you ready, Bartees?

Speaker 4 I am.

Speaker 4 Vital! Don't waste it!

Speaker 1 I'm wearing blue on purpose. Unfortunately, I'm a Penn State fan.
We're gonna see what happens.

Speaker 7 We're down on our head coach, we're down on our starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 All we want is a great game.

Speaker 10 What was your immediate reaction when you fired James Franklin?

Speaker 9 Eight years too late.

Speaker 8 Should have been fired when he ran Trace McSorley on fourth and five at Ohio State.

Speaker 15 Dumbass. It's about goddamn time.

Speaker 14 And then firing their head coach only gives us a better chance to win, so I think it's gonna be a good game.

Speaker 12 Penn State should stay coachless and just give up on their football program.

Speaker 10 Call it and invest all the money into wrestling.

Speaker 12 They should defund their wrestling program also.

Speaker 12 They can invest all their NIL money into Iowa sports and what they should do.

Speaker 10 So Penn State should just give all their money to Iowa just because it's nice.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 10 Your favorite person on the Levitar show. Oh, Lucy Rodine.
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 15 I'm required to say it, but it is Lucy.

Speaker 8 I am going to miss Billy Gill, so.

Speaker 10 We love you, Billy. Probably Lucy's dad.

Speaker 10 As a Nebraska fan, do you look at Penn State firing James Franklin and be like, oh no, you can't do that. We've been there before.

Speaker 13 We've been through a lot of coaches, obviously, but I don't think it's going to be a big deal.

Speaker 10 Do you think Matt Rule's going to take the Penn State job?

Speaker 13 I don't even know if they'll want him.

Speaker 16 Yo, give me Joe Brady.

Speaker 8 We want young, hot, sex appeal. I don't know, Bill Belchek, he might be in the move.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 I heard he's looking for a job.

Speaker 3 I guess the guy at Iowa Iowa State is pretty good.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, Matt Campbell. We'd be happy if you took him.
How would you describe the last three weeks of Penn State football?

Speaker 8 Basically, like the last 30 years of Penn State football.

Speaker 9 Train wreck, disaster, Armageddon, Hiroshima.

Speaker 10 Unnatural disaster is the right way to put it.

Speaker 13 I know I'm a Nebraska fan, but I'm in Iowa today, so go Hawks.

Speaker 10 And I was so rude to him this whole time, too. I was not nice at all.

Speaker 1 It's gonna be a great game.

Speaker 7 Signing off on the Dan Lebanard Show.

Speaker 10 October 18th, 2025 will go go down in history for the Lebatard Show. This is the first time in the so many times that I have made us go to Iowa football games that we have won.

Speaker 10 This has never happened before for us. Rose has never heard the Hawkeye Victory polka until today.
Dan, this is the best. This is why we do it.

Speaker 10 For these beautiful moments where you beat a terrible 10th Penn State team very close and you keep it feisty, but it's for the entertainment and the joy of a victory. I love this place so much.

Speaker 10 I hope you guys got to see why I love it today. Gohawks, Penn State.

Speaker 10 Maybe you'll hire somebody cool, you know?

Speaker 4 Maybe.

Speaker 10 Like Matt Ruhl.

Speaker 4 So cool.

Speaker 10 Only lost by like 30 to Minnesota. Whatever.
Go Hawks.

Speaker 16 It is the return of Iowa. Some things are a bit upside down in college football.
Vanderbilt is 6-1 for the first time since 1950. They defeated two top 10 teams in the past 12 months.

Speaker 16 Georgia Tech is 7-0 for the first time since 1966. Indiana's got the highest ranking it's ever had.

Speaker 16 And Lucy is grifting the entire Metal Arc media by going back and forth to Iowa every couple of weeks and is a bigger star in Iowa than she's ever been.

Speaker 16 I can't even imagine how much fun it is to tailgate with Iowa now that she returns home again and again.

Speaker 16 time to great victory and glory. This was the best weekend you've had in a while, correct?

Speaker 10 We had so much fun. This is always one of our favorite places to go to.
And I know that it's like selfish that we go, but I always think the content is pretty good.

Speaker 10 And we actually got some bonus content out of this weekend. Every week that we are on the road, Rose is begging people to let them throw the football with her.
And usually the answer is no.

Speaker 10 But we got a yes this weekend, and we have footage from that if you all want to see it.

Speaker 4 Oh, that would be wonderful. Rose, does Rose have a football? And did she get a baby? Oh my god, she threw the football.
She did it a baby. She did heart.
Rose falls for the love of God.

Speaker 4 Imagine anything that we're on so sad. Imagine someone hits your baby with a football, and you turn back and you see Rose's getup.
You're like, is she wearing a helmet?

Speaker 4 Because she has her headphones forward?

Speaker 16 You never let her throw that football because she's got bad judgment, correct? No one wants to throw the football with her because she can't be trusted to throw it correctly.

Speaker 10 Well, usually it's like 12-year-old boys who are throwing the football, and then Rose comes up. She's like, can I throw it? And they're very overwhelmed by her.

Speaker 10 But this time they said yes, and we like were screaming. We were like, Rose, there is a baby there.
Please do not hit me.

Speaker 16 But Lucy, what I don't understand, and I don't know why I would make you the governor of her, but the general radius of distance we're talking about, there is only one place there where a football cannot be thrown.

Speaker 16 It was the one baby cart within a 10-mile radius of where she could have thrown the football.

Speaker 4 Baby cart, like a farm machine. One more time.
Can we see this? Because Lucy, I would like to ask you a question here. I can't make out who the intended receiver is.

Speaker 10 No, we have no clue. I don't think she was throwing it to anybody.
Like, I really don't know who it was.

Speaker 10 If you turn the audio up on that, you can hear people yelling, don't hit the baby, please don't hit the baby.

Speaker 4 And then she immediately hit the baby.

Speaker 16 So she ignored it. Don't hit the baby.
Oh, for the love of God.

Speaker 4 Lucy.

Speaker 16 And then, oh, Lucy, I cannot be sending you in public with these people who do these things. Like, you can't throw a football at a stroller.
Put it on the poll at Lebetard Show.

Speaker 16 Can you throw a football at a stroller?

Speaker 4 Or baby cart. Baby cart.

Speaker 10 and what's crazy is like she didn't even apologize she just like ran away she ran away

Speaker 4 looking all sorts of crazy

Speaker 4 i mean

Speaker 10 that was a rambunctious group over at iowa it's not every weekend that you go over there and vibes are that good when they're playing penn state it's look like This game was so weird because like Iowa fans still view it as a really big game because it's like a really talented Penn State team and Iowa has a quarterback that runs.

Speaker 10 That's never ever happened before. So these people were losing their mind.

Speaker 10 Also, Iowa to end the second half had like the dumbest special teams play I've ever seen where they were going for like a 70-yard field goal. It got blocked, and Penn State scored based off of that.

Speaker 10 It was devastating, and Kirk Ferrins cried in this press conference about it. Like, he literally shed tears.

Speaker 4 He was crying. I'll indulge you with one more Iowa question.
They are finding their form. They have an upcoming date with Oregon.
I like what I see from Iowa.

Speaker 4 This offense is certainly over the last few years the one that you can trust the most. They're getting better as the year goes on.

Speaker 16 Rose didn't look crazy at all.

Speaker 10 No, she was totally normal. Everything was cool.
Yeah, this is the best Iowa has looked offensively in five years or so. It's been a really, really long time.

Speaker 10 Mark Ronowski, like, I know he only had, I think, like 60 passing years on the night, but he was running really well.

Speaker 10 Obviously, the defense is good. Special teams is great.
They're sort of figuring out their identity right now.

Speaker 10 Mark really struggled to start off the season, but it seems like they're figuring stuff out. Kinnick is a very difficult place to play if you're a top five team.

Speaker 10 Like, that's kind of a thing that has sort of fallen away the last few years, but it used to be like a given. If you were a top five team and you went into Iowa, you were going to lose.

Speaker 10 So, like, I would not be surprised to see if they beat Oregon. Playoff hopes aren't dead, but I also am not buying into that.

Speaker 4 I want to cover playoffs.

Speaker 16 I want to cover a couple of different things here happening with Billy Napier and Mike Norvell in the market because Norvell started 12 and 16 at Florida State, then they won 19 straight, right?

Speaker 16 And you can almost do whatever you want if you're going to win 19 straight.

Speaker 16 But then the snub happens, the quarterback quarterback gets hurt because, or the snub happens because the quarterback gets hurt, and now they're 5 and 15 cents, and it would cost $100 million to get him out.

Speaker 16 So where are you on all these guys? Billy Napier, Luke Fickle, Hugh Freese, and Norvell, who doesn't appear to be fired because Florida State can't afford to eat the money.

Speaker 4 There was a great little

Speaker 4 news bit. I think it was Warchant that put it out there that said Norvell announced to his team that he was indeed staying for the rest of the season, and it was met with deafening silence.

Speaker 10 That is so funny. So, with Billy Napier, obviously, this was a decision that we all knew was going to happen.
It was just sort of the timeline of when.

Speaker 10 I think it's a direct result of James Franklin because they fired him after a win over Mississippi State, a good Mississippi State team.

Speaker 10 It just sort of felt like, okay, Florida probably assumed that after this season, that would be the top job in the market. And now, I don't necessarily know if that's the case.

Speaker 10 I kind of think Penn State is a better job.

Speaker 10 And so to go and see, all right, now we're going to have to compete for Penn State with Penn State for the guys we want, or maybe we want James Franklin, who really knows.

Speaker 10 I felt like that was sort of the catalyst of why Billy Napier was fired this week rather than, you know.

Speaker 10 a few weeks from now when the season was over.

Speaker 10 Also, maybe they were like, we really don't want him to give him a chance to do what he did last year and win a couple games and now we're stuck with him.

Speaker 16 Mike, forgive me for a second. Why are you making faces at Penn State being a good job?

Speaker 4 I don't think so. Just because of what I understand, it was kind of diluted by the success that James Franklin had over there.
But there's a lot of Joe Paws innocent people over in Penn State. Like

Speaker 4 their fan base is pretty crazy. The standards seem to be in a wrested development.
And

Speaker 4 yeah, the things that surround Happy Valley are tricky, to say the least.

Speaker 10 I would like agree with that, but also I'm like, okay, well, your fan base in Florida all lives in Florida. So they're also crazy, just in a different way.

Speaker 10 Perhaps even a scarier way. Who really knows? I just think like resources-wise, Penn State has a bunch that they can like work with.

Speaker 10 And I do think Florida does as well.

Speaker 10 But Penn State, you probably feel a little bit more comfortable about job security, even though you know that, okay, James Franklin was fired after three bad weeks.

Speaker 10 He was there for you know 10 plus years before that.

Speaker 10 And it feels like I don't necessarily know if I agree with this, but I think people would think that the Big Ten is probably easier to compete in.

Speaker 4 So, if you're a Marcus Freeman, let's say, you look at both destinations, because both of these schools are interested in Marcus Freeman. What do you decide?

Speaker 4 Do you go to a better talent base in Florida or do you stay in that general region? Are you now reporting this exclusively? I'm not reporting it exclusively.

Speaker 4 Like, there's a lot of people that are plugged in that know this and they share information. I'm not going to, but I am revealing it to you for the first time.

Speaker 16 It's a new time.

Speaker 16 When you tell me the successful Notre Dame coach can be bought by Florida, we're in a new time in how we're going to be doing these things.

Speaker 4 Marcus Freeman was in the college football playoff, and it was known that he was interested in going to the pros. There were programs like Florida who back channeled engaged interests.

Speaker 4 That's why his name keeps popping up in these things.

Speaker 10 I kind of think this one's like a personal preference, weird enough. Like Marcus Freeman, I could see him.
I don't think he leaves Notre Dame.

Speaker 10 And I'm not just saying that because Jess is one of my closest friends. Like I really don't think he does.

Speaker 10 But if he were choosing between the two, I feel like just that sort of the style of football at Penn State aligns more with what he's doing. Like I really think it's just like a

Speaker 10 personal decision. I'm not quite familiar with either of their NIL standings, but I personally think Penn State's a better job, but I'm also like Big Ten biased.

Speaker 10 So, but that's why I think Billy Napier was fired, specifically because that is now your competition, where before it was like Virginia Tech and Oklahoma State and potentially Auburn, which by the way, something that I think is so, so funny this weekend was Auburn lost in double overtime against Mizzou and Hugh Freese was like, you know, it would be really nice if the AD came out and said they were going to keep me.

Speaker 10 You know, it would be cool if they said they support me and then they didn't do it.

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No, not. No, don't let Billy's team of dumb demons spew all over the bottom of this company and piss all over the show.
No.

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Speaker 16 You didn't mention even, we didn't get to Luke Fickle, did we? I mean, you've been saying for weeks he's going to be fired.

Speaker 10 So he got uh another sort of like moment of support this weekend where their ad came out and they were like we we support luke fickle we believe in wisconsin football we're going to invest money into wisconsin football which is not something that wisconsin has done i mean it's not something they've done for a long time so i don't necessarily know how much i believe it but they were shut out for the second time in a row this week against ohio state it's like terrible times there and i i don't personally understand why they're sticking with luke fickle maybe it's it's because they look at this market now and you're like, okay, we're competing with Penn State and Florida and Virginia Tech and whatnot, but like it's clearly not working at all.

Speaker 10 That is a truly terrible football team and Wisconsin fans are deeply unhappy for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 10 But the big one is that there's like a Wisconsin-based like gas dealership there that they give you discounts via how much like Wisconsin scores and they haven't scored it all.

Speaker 10 So all their gas is full price. Same thing with Culver's.
They can't get any free food from Culver's.

Speaker 16 Why isn't this cheese curds?

Speaker 4 Why isn't this working out for luke fickle in wisconsin because yeah he he appears to be out the door he proved at cincinnati there there's something to him he has experience in the big 10 i i i'm surprised that the job is too big for him It wasn't even the job was too big for him.

Speaker 10 Luke Fickle, Wisconsin was a job that did not need an overhaul. It just needed tuning up.
Like Wisconsin's identity has always been set.

Speaker 10 Wisconsin is, you run the ball, you have beefy, like, you know, Midwest offensive lineman. You have a strong defense.
You need a

Speaker 10 serviceable quarterback and nothing else Luke Fickle came in even though they had a system that was working it just wasn't like to its peak because Paul Chris never was as low as Luke Fickle is and he decided I'm gonna hire Phil Longo to be my offensive coordinator off the jump okay bold move that didn't work out at all completely like deranged the entire identity of Wisconsin football he said we're gonna do the air raid here where are you gonna get the talent for that in Wisconsin you're not going to do that so it went so poorly the defense suffered because of it the offense suffered because of it.

Speaker 10 Their entire identity is gone. And so now he was like, okay,

Speaker 10 I'm going to redo it. I'm going to start over.

Speaker 10 I went and got the offensive coordinator from Kansas, but it's too late because you've already lost all that talent that would work with the original Wisconsin identity, which is the only way you can win there.

Speaker 10 And instead, you went and got a bunch of talent for a program for a system that's just not going to work at your school.

Speaker 10 And in the meantime, Brett Bielema, he went and he got all those guys that you were going to have at Wisconsin and now Illinois is what they are.

Speaker 10 It was just like literally so dumb that I could not, I couldn't believe it when others talked about it.

Speaker 4 It was so silly.

Speaker 16 I have to salute that analysis as the best that you will hear on Wisconsin football anywhere for this particular reason.

Speaker 16 What she is saying, that Wisconsin can only win, and they'll win nine games a year and never any of the meaningful ones, but the only way they will do it, if it's grass-fed,

Speaker 16 if it's corn husker type of beef that it is fed, and it's going to win by punching you in the face, and we can't get athletes who do anything.

Speaker 4 And it makes sense that their defense suffers because complimentary football, Dano.

Speaker 4 uh lucy i have to apologize to you last week i trotted out the take that people don't like carson beck maybe because he's not handsome i don't know but uh it's because he occasionally throws four interceptions and then uh displays bad leadership post game what do you make of that upset like i know there are some people that are doom and gloom i i i never thought that there was an undefeated team in this nation let alone miami i always thought that they were good for a dumb loss and louisville very quietly over the last two years just flatly doesn't lose games by more than one score.

Speaker 4 That is a well-coached team. Jeff Braum has showed he can upset teams.

Speaker 4 Look, I,

Speaker 10 you're, you're going to love my answer to this because I don't think too much of it because we've all been Jeff Brom before. This has happened to me personally many times.
Like, he always does this.

Speaker 10 He is very sneaky in the way that every year it feels like he just pulls something out of his bag and he's able to beat a really good team.

Speaker 10 Like, Jeff Brom, I think, is one of the most underrated coaches in college football. Like, they have a strict identity, they know who they are.

Speaker 10 He's such a good fit for that Louisville program. Yeah, Carson Beck had a rough game.

Speaker 10 I feel like sort of the the thing with Carson Beck is you saw a little bit against Louisville, what you saw Georgia last year, where when he is good, he is really, really good.

Speaker 10 But the second he like flounders a little bit, it's all or nothing with him. Like, I don't know if he casually just has like an okay game.

Speaker 10 It's either like a great one or he's going to throw four interceptions. But I'm not too worried about it because like that is a good Louisville team.

Speaker 10 Like I'm not, I don't think that's a bad loss by any means. And Jeff Rom just tends to do that.
Yeah, the post-game presser, maybe not the best move. Maybe not a great idea.

Speaker 10 Maybe I would have just kept that one to myself. I think what's interesting now is that Miami doesn't control their own destiny to the ACC championship.

Speaker 10 They need Georgia Tech or Virginia to lose to make it to Charlotte, which is just like kind of crazy to be in that position with a roster this good with the best team Miami's had in a very long time.

Speaker 16 Well, I want to get inside, okay, when we make these students or young people professionals. I want to get inside of whatever it is Carson Beck has been living for the last three years.

Speaker 16 And just ask you, Lucy, as someone who was on the Georgia sideline predicting

Speaker 16 his interceptions last year, expecting his interceptions last year, when someone of this age is in a game where it is clear Brahm is outclassing Miami everywhere, even though he does not have the athletes that Miami has, and also the game plan is clearly, nope, there will be no running in this game, friend.

Speaker 4 It's all you.

Speaker 16 You want to throw way downfield? Let's see, Beck, what you got? It's going to be all you, plenty of pass protection. What do you have, Beck?

Speaker 16 Like, you're telling me that that's a quarterback who shrinks there.

Speaker 10 I mean, yeah, he's done that before.

Speaker 10 I think that was sort of the issue at Georgia is like, and I also think it's important to include the context of last year, Miami had a quarterback who could, you know, do that in that moment.

Speaker 10 So it's something you've been used to. That Carson Beck is obviously not of Cam Ward's caliber and just like won't be.

Speaker 10 But yeah, I think it was just like, that was the first time they like really had him in hell and he just kind of fell apart. And it's something he's done before.

Speaker 10 I don't think it's something that's going to happen a ton again, but it's also something worth noting.

Speaker 10 We're like, okay, it's good that you got this under your belt because you're going to play teams a lot tougher than Louisville going forward.

Speaker 10 I think Mike, my real issue with Carson Beck was just like, hey, you lost a game. It happens.

Speaker 10 You got to be a little bit smarter in the post-game press conference because Mike is right in the sense that, you know, it is a little bit more difficult with him just because the reputation he has at Georgia and sort of that people don't like him.

Speaker 10 Like you got to be a lot smarter about the stuff you're saying.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they feel like Beck and his camp feel like they slaughtered his reputation with how talkative they were and how the narrative was when Gunnar Stockton took over.

Speaker 4 It's like this is the team's guy. And he felt it was unfair because he played while he was hurt, encouraged by the training staff to go out there and play while he was hurt.

Speaker 4 He felt like he gave it all for his team and it wasn't reciprocated. I will say though, I totally agree.
He's got to be better in the post-game.

Speaker 4 That felt a lot like the guy they were telling me about. Now, I know from talking to his camp, this offseason was very difficult for him.

Speaker 4 It was a big transition for a young man, and he rediscovered his passion for the game and he came out more mature. He's going to need to.

Speaker 4 Teams are going to decide to take the run game away from Miami, especially if they have a conservative run game, which is just committed to the A gap. Now they did that against FSU and he torched him.

Speaker 4 The thing about FSU was he wasn't down 14-0 at the time and being in predictable passing situations. So Miami needs to clean things up to make sure that the running game can stay honest.

Speaker 2 But Mike, he had such a great fall camp.

Speaker 3 Better than Cam Ward. He did.

Speaker 19 You want to throw that in my face?

Speaker 3 Like, you know, Jack's shit?

Speaker 17 That's another one. You know Jack's shit, Dano.

Speaker 17 You don't know Jack's shit.

Speaker 4 No, not

Speaker 4 and not by a little in fall camp. By a lot.

Speaker 17 Pence to not know Jack's shit.

Speaker 3 Lucy, does a one-loss Miami team that doesn't even appear in the ACC championship game, do they definitely make it?

Speaker 16 Oh, this is begging, and I won't have you do it. This is begging, and I won't have you do it.

Speaker 4 It's disgusting what you got to do.

Speaker 10 Theoretically, not possible.

Speaker 10 Or I guess. No, yeah, it is.
Because if Virginia and Georgia Tech finish the season undefeated and Miami beats SMU, but they still

Speaker 10 UVA and Georgia Tech undefeated, then they won't make the ACC championship game. Any team that only has one loss that's in the power four is going to make the playoff.

Speaker 10 Like, that's just going to happen. Especially because, like, I test Miami as a very good football team.
Like, I think it would take another

Speaker 10 really stupid, dumb loss, which I actually don't think that little loss was stupid, but we all know that. No, but there can be a concern with Miami that that happens.

Speaker 16 But to me, this one was just so obvious in terms of how it is that Beck must have felt alone out there. Oh, I'm being outcoached everywhere.
They're begging me to throw the football.

Speaker 16 They're not allowing us to run, even though the advantage we have in this game, the biggest surprise in that game is why wasn't Miami couldn't run?

Speaker 6 Braum wasn't going to let him run.

Speaker 16 He was going to try and cover those receivers with that secondary and did. They made three great interceptions.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they made unbelievable plays.

Speaker 4 I am curious if Miami does drop the other one. We know the other dumb one.
And let's say it's just like last year, less by one score.

Speaker 16 It could be Virginia. It could be Pittsburgh.
It could be anywhere.

Speaker 4 Well, it could be Virginia Tech. They don't play Virginia, which is another weird quirk.

Speaker 2 Who's the one that you're talking about?

Speaker 4 The ACC

Speaker 4 had this situation last year, and they're trying to address it by adding an additional conference game. But yeah, you have Georgia Tech, as Lucy mentioned.
You had the

Speaker 4 weird thing with Virginia where they lost to an ACC team, but are undefeated in the ACC conference. It doesn't count.

Speaker 4 Because it was a non-conference game, because the teams decided they wanted to keep playing. It's so funny.

Speaker 4 Bullshit. Where Miami is aided is that unlike last year, their non-conference wins appear to be really good.
They have the USF win. They have the Notre Dame win.

Speaker 4 Based on form, Notre Dame looks like a top five team all of a sudden. And we know the committee likes good losses.
Right now, presently, Louisville's ranked in the team.

Speaker 3 What if Miami just says their Louisville loss is not an ACC game?

Speaker 16 They should. Lucy, why is that so funny?

Speaker 10 Because it's just like, ACC is so stupid. They're so dumb.
What do you mean? Like, Miami truly would be in a great spot if that game had counted because Virginia lost, but it didn't.

Speaker 10 For no reason, they were like, yeah, we're just going to play each other, but it's not a conference. What? Okay, sure.
That is so ACC. I love this silly little conference.
They're so silly.

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Speaker 6 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 10 He seems like a not-nice guy, and he's always been a not-nice guy. I don't care for him, and I hope he has the day he deserves.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 6 stugats.

Speaker 4 I hope

Speaker 16 he has the day he deserves.

Speaker 10 That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go F yourself.
I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve.

Speaker 4 It's a great sign. insult.

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Speaker 10 It's beautiful

Speaker 16 It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out.

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Speaker 16 You and Zazzler are going to be in the same place this Saturday. Have either of you done Baton Rouge at night? Because it's insane.

Speaker 19 I have not It's totally crazy.

Speaker 16 Have you been Lucy? Have you done this before?

Speaker 10 This is one of my favorite spots, so I'm very, very excited, even though that this could be a Brian Kelly gets fired game, which actually I think is going to make it way more fun. I'm so excited.

Speaker 10 I love LSU fans. They are nuts.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I went last year.
It was a day game, terrible game. They played UCLA.
Get the hell out of here.

Speaker 3 But this game, night game, everyone tells me, Death Valley at night, Death Valley. Okay.

Speaker 4 What do you got? I'm going to be there. It's going to be pretty epic.
Texas A ⁇ M. That's actually so cool.

Speaker 4 Texas A ⁇ M is really good, but they're playing in a conference, which, again, they're doing this. Does this count in the conference in this game?

Speaker 4 It It does, but I do think the conference is overrated because it's being judged against its reputation from years past.

Speaker 4 And I think it's a type of conference where Texas A ⁇ M can lose to LSU, especially a nighttime game in that stadium.

Speaker 4 I don't understand why Tennessee is ranked ahead of the teams that they're ranked. They don't have a good win.

Speaker 4 Their best win is against Mississippi State, but again, good losses inside that conference.

Speaker 10 I think we all need to take a moment to just reflect on the fact that Vanderbilt beat LSU this weekend and did not storm the field.

Speaker 16 Oh, I'm going to to say it again: Vanderbilt, this is one of the things that gets James Franklin and Billy Napier fired.

Speaker 16 Vanderbilt is 6-1 for the first time since 1950, and they've now defeated two top 10 teams in the last 12 months. Like, they can play with Alabama.
Everyone can see that they can play with Alabama.

Speaker 4 No, they hung in that game. The final score isn't reflective of what a battle that game was.

Speaker 4 However, there is some fake news to this because I saw a report that said Vanderbilt, reputed to be a very intelligent school, very expensive school, they waited till LSU, till LSU's personnel and players left the field so they would not be subject to the SEC fine, and then they went on the field.

Speaker 16 We have Lucy's internet minute.

Speaker 4 I'm serious program.

Speaker 16 Lucy's internet minute. But Jeremy, any last thoughts as Mike sort of hogged everything here with UM talk in a way that didn't allow a lot of room for objection?

Speaker 2 I mean, my name is Jack Shit, related to the shit family, as exemplified here by my hello, my name is Jack Shit.

Speaker 4 i think name tag

Speaker 2 mike

Speaker 3 i don't know man i'm mr how you're gonna tell me i don't know jack shit you don't know jack shit you thought carson beck was better than cam ward in fall camp yeah oh

Speaker 2 he was right at the time no i was i wasn't oh he was right at the time you were right at the time

Speaker 4 still right

Speaker 4 better fall camp were you at fall camp i didn't see you there mr shit again with the mr jack shit uh you know i was looking around for mr shit I didn't see him.

Speaker 16 He hit me yesterday with some alums don't do anything for the program. That's what he hit.

Speaker 16 He's throwing veiled shots on

Speaker 4 the place.

Speaker 16 He was looking right at me. Okay.

Speaker 16 He was looking right at me and touting his own.

Speaker 4 Oh, I know what that means.

Speaker 4 Time to get in it. It's Lilsey's Internet Minute.

Speaker 7 Yay, that's so great.

Speaker 10 Kim Kardashian went on the the Call Her Daddy podcast this weekend, which I'm actually not really a big fan of that podcast. We can talk about that later.

Speaker 10 But she had the most Lucille Bluth moment ever where Alex Cooper, the host, asked her how much money she spent on makeup a year or on glam. And she was like, I don't know.

Speaker 10 I don't really know the price of things. Like, I'd love to figure out how much milk carton cost.

Speaker 10 Oh, girl, you could just go to the store. Also, milk carton.
She's had kind of a weird week.

Speaker 10 They released like a new line of skims, which include a bush thong, which is just hair on the outside of the thong. She did an interview with a like a ski mask.
It's not a ski mask, but like a

Speaker 10 I don't know what to call it. Something completely over her face.
Yeah, like not even a veil, though. It was real creepy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, she's having a weird week online, but she doesn't know how much milk costs, which like I didn't think she did, but I probably would have just kept that to myself.

Speaker 4 How much are baby carts?

Speaker 5 More expensive than you think.

Speaker 5 Much more, Dano.

Speaker 4 Depends on the taste. But you know, wives as.

Speaker 3 Oh, I know what they like.

Speaker 4 Do you know who also loves that? Babies.

Speaker 2 It's a banana, Michael.

Speaker 4 What could it cost? $10?

Speaker 16 How much is a baby heart on the Black Marine?

Speaker 5 Do you don't want to know?

Speaker 4 Don't ask that question ever again. Do you never ask that question ever again? Don't ask me.

Speaker 4 Never ask that question. Did you think that a question? I love you.
I respect you.

Speaker 5 Don't ask that question again.

Speaker 4 Why'd you think that was a good question? Ask the Democrats.

Speaker 16 Lucy, thank you for

Speaker 16 being on with us. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 16 Jeremy is mad about the UM talk, and he's also mad because we're not talking enough baseball. I do not blame him.
There was a game seven last night.

Speaker 16 Mike doesn't want to talk about Baker Mayfield all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 He's missing high, you know, to let's just get to that pie. No, I watched the entire baseball game.
Multi-view, Dan. And this baseball game was incredible.
It was good. I'm devastating.

Speaker 16 The greatest Mariner season of this century

Speaker 16 dies on the doorstep because

Speaker 16 Toronto clubs the baseball, but also,

Speaker 16 God almighty, is Toronto going to have any chance? They really, really hit. Vladimir Guerrero hits everything hard.

Speaker 16 Doesn't strike out and hits everything hard, but do they have any chance against four aces?

Speaker 2 I mean, they have a chance. Like, the Mariners' pitching was really good throughout that season.

Speaker 4 Cody has to walk to Seattle. Excuse me.

Speaker 16 Cody has to walk to Seattle. He loses that bet.
Sorry about that.

Speaker 4 We've developed a plan, though. I'm glad you mentioned that because we do need to close this through.
Remember, he's old. He's old.
And he has mad knee. And he's got a trick knee.

Speaker 4 We didn't say where he's walking from when he gets to Seattle. So we're going to find a neighboring town.

Speaker 4 Fly him out. We are committed to it.

Speaker 17 Thank you.

Speaker 4 You can take this to the bank. Thank you.

Speaker 17 Greg Cody. Yes, okay.

Speaker 4 As long as I have air in my lungs,

Speaker 4 we'll be walking to Seattle.

Speaker 2 He lost the bet.

Speaker 4 Just from a nearby town.

Speaker 3 Why would he think a team can't come back from 2-0?

Speaker 4 I don't understand.

Speaker 3 Why would you be so confident that a team cannot overcome? two games to none, let alone in baseball.

Speaker 16 Probably because he had not watched either of those teams play the entire season until those two games and if you only watched those two games it seemed like there was a giant disparity between the talent levels and then he offered up the thing he would do if it happens no one said hey what will you do now walk to seattle i i really do love this world series the world's world series okay because canada doesn't get to win these things and they're can't this team is like it's got a major league baseball chromosome because more than taking descendants we haven't seen bachette yet.

Speaker 16 This team rakes.

Speaker 4 He's supposed to be back.

Speaker 16 I thought Baltimore was going to win that division for 10 years. I'm surprised that Toronto had more wins.
Toronto deserves to be there.

Speaker 16 Toronto, I think, had more wins during the regular season than the greatest roster ever assembled. Didn't Toronto win more games than the Dodgers this season?

Speaker 16 If they didn't, it was close because they won like 93 or 94 games. They're great and they mash, but.

Speaker 16 Dodger pitching is unprecedented with an ERA. Never mind the ERA.
All the other advanced metrics that say it's the best starting pitching you've ever seen in a playoff.

Speaker 2 No, you're right, Dan.

Speaker 2 I mean, to have Blake Snell back, like the reason that the Blue Jays did win one more game this season than the Dodgers did is because they maintained their health for most of it.

Speaker 2 Now, Bachette was out at the end of the year. That offense was consistent all year long.

Speaker 2 And in the playoffs, actually having Andre Jimenez at shortstop was kind of an advantage because Beau Buchette is not a tremendous defensive shortstop.

Speaker 2 But to add him to that lineup, a guy who led that team in hits, who was right near the top of the American League in hits.

Speaker 2 If there's a team that was going to be formidable for the Dodgers, it's this Blue Jays team because their bullpen is so spectacular that if the offense can give them a lead early, you have an opportunity to do some things.

Speaker 2 But George Springer, I mean, he's the guy here where now he's tied for third all time in postseason home runs. He has his moment in a Blue Jays uniform.

Speaker 3 I love that Blue Jays playoff crowd.

Speaker 17 It's so good.

Speaker 2 It was spectacular. And to watch him be able to do that in that moment.
Remember, just a few days ago, he took a 96-mile an hour fastball off his knee. I thought he broke his kneecap.

Speaker 2 He was writhing around on the ground. And then he comes back and has this moment in that spot to give them the lead as...
One of the great playoff performers of all time.

Speaker 2 He's the only guy on that team with World Series experience, including their bench coach, Donnie Baseball, who gets to be there, Donnie Teball.

Speaker 16 This feels like a real World Series, though, where you have obviously Shohei Otani doing Herculean things, and then you've got Canada's team.

Speaker 16 Canada's team responsible for Joe Carter's home run, which once, you know, a generation ago is the time that felt most like this.

Speaker 3 Poor Mitch Williams.

Speaker 16 It felt most like this in what it is you see. The last time you saw this in Toronto might have been the Batista bat flip in terms of,

Speaker 16 but you're talking about 20 years of this, this region cares deeply about this baseball team, and now it goes to fight the greatest roster ever assembled after a slug fight against the best Seattle team we've seen this century.

Speaker 16 Like, it's good storylines, but you got to give us some drama against the Dodgers. You can't just roll over.

Speaker 16 They're steaming everybody. Like

Speaker 16 they're steam rolling. The Dodgers, the Brewers are a very good baseball team.
Like they had no chance. That's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 The difference between the Brewers and the Blue Jays, though, is that the Blue Jays offense is more potent. What the Brewers were able to do throughout the year was like all the little things right.

Speaker 2 They would lay down bunts. They would bunt for base hits, they'd pull off hit and runs, they'd go first to third really well.

Speaker 2 They weren't able to do those things against the Dodgers because they were striking out so much. The Blue Jays have more pop.

Speaker 2 And I mean, look at this photo, putting Joe Carter and George Springer next to each other in those moments in Toronto. They have a chance.
Do I think that they're going to win the series?

Speaker 2 No, I think the Dodgers should win this series.

Speaker 2 But if there was a team in the American League that had an opportunity, that if they got hot and played their best baseball that could beat the Dodgers, it would have been the Blue Jays probably from the start.

Speaker 4 Congratulations to Bellevue, Washington. You're the closest city we deemed worthy of Greg Cody walking from.
And how do we classify a city? City's got to have a mayor.

Speaker 4 So, this is about a four-hour walk that Greg Cody's got ahead of us. Not, not, not small miles, ten miles in totality.
This is a man with a trick, folks.

Speaker 16 He's got to make the walk. In the interim, let's hear the home run call, Springer home run call in French.

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