Hour 2: Zas Dropped The Ball (feat. Nick Wright)

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Speaker 4 Nick Wright will be here shortly. I'm sure he has some thoughts on the Nico Harrison firing.
This is a tweet from Ian Begley. Heard several Mavs players this season

Speaker 4 have preferred to play on the road rather than playing home games due to the charged atmosphere as it relates to Nico Harrison.

Speaker 4 They weren't passing judgment on fans, more so just having a human reaction to atmosphere. The Mavs have played seven of ten at home.

Speaker 4 I cannot explain to you guys what a historic poisoning of a well this was that one man was made to be the scapegoat on and the face of when he's not the only one responsible for this do not allow new ownership to hide behind this person whose carcass they throw in the street as a laughing stock because they traded away the most popular thing they've had in basketball since Dirk Nowitzki and maybe ever.

Speaker 4 They traded away a historic sports superstar

Speaker 4 bigger than all the ones on all the other teams in the markets that you've cared about. All of them.
Dak Prescott is not this. Whatever you think, Jerry Jones is the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 The biggest thing in that market as a superstar athlete was this in its prime. Took you to the finals, and it was going to be the beginning of growth.

Speaker 4 Ownership did that, and there's a carcass in the street, and it'll never work again. And we will laugh at it because it will ultimately be responsible for this.

Speaker 4 But know that that responsibility, the power structure on that, does not die at his doorstep. That goes well above him.

Speaker 4 The Mavs ownership has poisoned this and its fan base, thrown away all of Mark cubin's goodwill all of it not not a little bit of it everything mark cubin built there for 30 years new ownership threw that in the street and let its fans eat it and so don't let this man take this alone this is top-heavy ownership this is everything that leads the mass mavericks has desecrated the 20 years that came before it with this trade and this firing uh eight months later this is the height of economic and uh executive incompetence this is not over though.

Speaker 1 Like it's good right now. The fan base is happy, I'm sure, that Nico Harrison's gone and they're not going to chan fire Nico anymore, but that anger is now just going to transfer to Patrick Dumont.

Speaker 1 Like it's, this atmosphere in that building is not over. Maybe it would be a little bit better if Anthony Davis were healthy and actually playing.

Speaker 1 They're going to, maybe, you know, in six months when Kyrie Irving returns, it'll feel a little bit better. But this team sucks.

Speaker 4 No, you have to hit on Cooper Flag.

Speaker 1 Like, and this, and this can swallow. No, but they are hitting on him.
Like, he looks good.

Speaker 4 No, but this can swallow him. Like, this, this is an in.
This is how

Speaker 4 you build the next part of the story.

Speaker 4 The only way to actually rep I'm not even going to say, I'm not even going to say repair or put bomb on what this particular wound is because it's so emotional and sort of personal.

Speaker 4 Again, I just can't say it enough. Superstar in his prime that everyone cares about internationally, you just don't get the 10 years of promise of that.
And so, Cooper Flag has to be

Speaker 4 something close to as good as him it's the only way it's not even bomb it just soothes a little bit the scar of this will last like you wreck a generation of fans here like you wound kids with this in a way that cooper flag gets that crucifix it's a top-down situation obviously from the ownership they have to sign off on the trade is there any sort of flack or any sort of like hey what's going on with Mark Cuban?

Speaker 1 I said that months ago. He didn't need to sell his portion of the team.

Speaker 1 I said that months ago that Cuban has completely skated in this scenario he gets to sit there and play this victim oh I wasn't consulted I wouldn't have done it I didn't have any control he sold the team to these people because he wanted the highest dollar value that's fine but he sold the team to these people who very clearly have no interest in basketball there appears to be an ulterior motive casinos this that he chose to sell to these people.

Speaker 1 And now he sits there as if he's some kind of victim. Why don't you make sure you're the caretaker of the franchise?

Speaker 1 Make sure if you're going to sell the team to somebody, you're giving it over to someone who is going to take just as good care of the team as you did or take by far the most money possible.

Speaker 1 And that's what he chose. And the bullshit of the year was like, oh, no, I'm going to still be involved in basketball decisions.
No, no, you're not, buddy. You sold the team.

Speaker 1 You know who makes decisions? People that write the check. You got the check.
It's over. There's nothing for you to say.
They don't have to consult you for shit.

Speaker 1 Don't they need to trade Anthony Davis now? Because with Nico Harrison gone, Anthony Davis is going to remain the face. They should totally start over.

Speaker 1 They should totally start over. Start over with Cooper Flag and go from there.
Well,

Speaker 1 all right.

Speaker 4 Before we get to Nick right here, can you give me Ethel Merman's hello? And can you get me just some history of Ethel Merman as Greg Cody keeps the show and the demo that we've always wanted it in?

Speaker 4 He sounds like Ethel Merman. Get me Ethel Merman sounding like Ethel Merman.

Speaker 1 Hello.

Speaker 1 Wow. What is that?

Speaker 4 That is an old woman singing, and so as well is this.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 Give me just the history of Ethel Merman real quick. I've got to get younger here on Greg Cody Tuesdays.

Speaker 1 Ethel Merman, born in 1908, died in 1984, performing on Broadway in Anything Goes, Annie, Get Your Gun, Gypsy, and of course, Hello Dolly. That's her classic Hello Dolly.
You kidding me? Ethel Merman.

Speaker 1 That kind of thing.

Speaker 4 Nick Wright with us now, and he's the host of FS1's First Things First.

Speaker 4 What's Right with Nick Wright is the podcast I keep urging you to listen to because he does it too, does it with his son and it is

Speaker 4 charming. It's endearing.
It's humanizing. I don't think

Speaker 4 I don't believe people get to see this side of you that often.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 yeah, so the well, is that a shot at the viewership numbers of the pod? Because if

Speaker 1 that's charming, they get to see it quite often. It's three days a week,

Speaker 1 mass-platformed.

Speaker 1 But on that note, this is kind of a perfect synergy because you're talking about the show getting younger. I'm about to make the show feel a hell of a lot older because

Speaker 1 I am not doing the podcast. Greg's gonna love this

Speaker 1 with my son for the next few weeks because

Speaker 1 he is out

Speaker 1 because,

Speaker 1 as of yesterday, he's on paternity leave, which means Greg Cody, I'm with you on Team Grandpa.

Speaker 1 You and me,

Speaker 1 I need to brush up on the Ethel Merman news because we're not getting younger, boys. We're getting older.

Speaker 1 Woo! Grandpa Nick Wright, Greg Wright. Grandpa, Nick Wright.
Man. How about that? I know, man.

Speaker 1 It really is going to, it's got to be so confusing to people that just casually drop

Speaker 1 this show or my show or the pot or whatever. If I get referenced as a grandfather and they're like, wait,

Speaker 1 the guy with the gambling problem and the jewelry who

Speaker 1 is like, that guy's a grandfather. Nobody understands it.
I'll be honest, I don't totally understand it. But it is what it is.
And so, yeah, so that's the big news.

Speaker 1 That's the as of as of two days ago.

Speaker 1 And I gotta think, I think I'm

Speaker 1 I think the last grandfather on, no, because Wilbon or Kornheiser, one of them's gotta be, right? I'm not taking, I'm not being, that wasn't me being fresh.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know they're the, but I was gonna say, am I the first grandfather on daytime sports TV since your dad? Uh, left.

Speaker 1 Oh, so what? So, well,

Speaker 4 okay, so you're not talking Lee Corso category. You want the grandpa? Hold on, I thought you were feuding with Pablo and Mina.
Now you want the grandpa demo?

Speaker 1 I want it all. I want it all.
And by the way, listen,

Speaker 1 I'm not feuding with Mina, and

Speaker 1 I thought Mina's tweet this weekend was pitch perfect and really well done. And I'm very excited.
I mean, on pins and needles, refreshing the feed

Speaker 1 for the only, you know, honest journalist left in America for the long form episode on, so, huh, what is that Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Solitaire app all about i listen no sacred cows i'm sure i'm sure pablo's furiously working on it and i listen i know there's a lot of he's got a lot of irons in the fire i but i mean it feels like it it's it's like is it gambling is it not sports people i i listen the phil mickelson texts are great and i'm all in for it it gets a little stickier to do this story but You know, journalism goes wherever the story is.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to hear the episode. Hi, Greg.
How you doing, Nick? Hey, do you have the over or under on the delivery date for your

Speaker 1 dad? I would have. I mean, yeah, I mean, that bets in.

Speaker 1 She was a few days late. My wife's out there.

Speaker 4 Two days ago. Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 What question is that? I just said as of two days ago. He said it like two.
Guys, that kind of thing. Don't worry about it.
Doom day. That kind of thing.

Speaker 1 I thought it was a pending birth. I didn't know it was.

Speaker 1 Greg, it's fine. It's fine, Greg.
Don't worry about it, buddy.

Speaker 1 He's just asking, and you know what? I was going to play along. I was going to act like, you know, I had the over and I lost.
I knew it was a mistake, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Greg, us old folks got to stick together. I hear you.
Us old folks. I hear that.

Speaker 1 You look like my grandson.

Speaker 1 What the hell's going on? I know. This is unbelievable.
So that's the news, Dan.

Speaker 4 Congratulations.

Speaker 4 I am thrilled for you, and I didn't realize that the Poppy Lane is open on being a grandpa publicly, growing up in front of sports fans as a grandpa.

Speaker 4 But I actually want to tackle the thicket of the gambling stuff with you because

Speaker 4 you are somebody who must be fascinated, like really riveted by everything that's happening here from the amateurism surrounding Terry Rozier and Chauncey Pillips and just how

Speaker 4 buffoonish all of this is. The FBI, the NBA investigation, the mafia,

Speaker 1 all of it

Speaker 4 seems pretty dumb. Then you have the baseball scandal, which gets less attention.

Speaker 4 And I'm not sure why when you're talking about, you're gonna get lifetime bans there as well, one of them from one of the great closers in the game.

Speaker 4 How do you take the matches?

Speaker 1 And then there's the and the poker piece, which again, I don't want Pablo knocking on my door, but um, and maybe I should respond to some of his text messages. Bad job by me.

Speaker 1 But I mean, I like I read those indictments, the full indictments, and I'm like, oh, I recognize at least two of those names. Like, the, the, and so, like, the, the poker piece was real.

Speaker 1 like not those are not games that i play in but those are

Speaker 1 but those are

Speaker 4 you know six degrees of kevin bacon we'd be a couple degrees but when you're reading the details on this even the most amateur of poker players would know that those games were rigged away rigged in a way that's not sophisticated like the cart oh i disagree with that I disagree with that.

Speaker 1 I think the way those games were rigged was super sophisticated. I think that any

Speaker 1 i think that any

Speaker 1 you know person that regularly plays poker for real money knows

Speaker 1 hey one of the skills of being someone who plays cards for money is being able to sense out if the game's on the level or not but there's so many there are a lot of ways people dan And I know we can get to the sports betting piece of this, but just on the poker piece, because this is like super,

Speaker 1 I'm really in that.

Speaker 1 And it's one of the reasons, so let me just back up a little bit real quick. One of the reasons I travel all the way to Vegas, and if I can't get to Vegas,

Speaker 1 I go to Philadelphia, or that I play in that game

Speaker 1 from last month that's too big for me,

Speaker 1 is because I want the certainty of the following three things. That the game game is not being cheated,

Speaker 1 that the game is going to get paid at the end of it,

Speaker 1 and that the game is

Speaker 1 not going to be, you're not going to be sitting in a card game and have the cops come in because someone's either selling drugs out of one of the rooms or because it's an illegal casino where they're taking a rake.

Speaker 1 So the game that I play in in New York that's too big for me to play in really is totally legal because no one's taking taking a rake.

Speaker 1 Like, you can play poker with your friends for $10 a man or $10 million a man, and it's totally legal as long as the house is not taking a cut.

Speaker 1 And so, as whenever you venture outside of the casino, you run the risk of different types of cheating. The most common type of cheating

Speaker 1 is collusion, which is you, me, Greg, the shipping,

Speaker 1 there's seven of us playing together, and and six of us have all said, hey, we're going to chop up each other's winnings and losings, and then poor Greg, whatever.

Speaker 1 So basically, it's all of us against Greg. Like that is,

Speaker 1 and you can, that's a way to get someone, you get someone big in the game, and they can't win because it's one-on-six, basically. So that happens a lot, and you got to be careful of it.
There is,

Speaker 1 there is

Speaker 1 people, just two people having pieces of each other. So, Dan, you and I are in a game, and you have 50% of my action, I have 50% of your action.

Speaker 1 So, we're incentivized to have the other person do well, which changes how we play, which is kind of okay, but certainly not okay if it's not disclosed to everyone.

Speaker 1 That happens, and you've got to be aware of it. Victims known as quote fish.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 What is being alleged here

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 the rigged shuffling machine is very sophisticated. Yes.

Speaker 1 And scary.

Speaker 1 And the marked cards is not sophisticated in that it's obviously been done for years, but having it done on that level is surprising.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, like that is, that's unrelated to the sports betting, except for the fact it gave you a little bit of a window that, oh man, some of these guys might be in more money trouble than I thought and be putting themselves in worse positions than I thought.

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Speaker 1 I think I have the fix. to the sports betting.

Speaker 3 What was the original question? Just talk about poker for 20 minutes?

Speaker 4 Well, this is the problem with him. And sometimes if you allow him...

Speaker 4 No, no, you didn't do a bet.

Speaker 1 No, look, that is... I thought that was informative.
Don't let them get to you, Nick. Nick.
Hey, where's the day date, by the way?

Speaker 4 Nick, you did not do a poor job with that. That was absolutely good content that was super nourishing for the ill-informed as someone who comes from the inside of this world.

Speaker 4 The thing that I was saying that wasn't sophisticated is just when you're going, when the cards are landing the way they are, there's not a way to bet that the cards are going to be gut shots on the river and you get it right every time.

Speaker 4 Like, that seems super unsophisticated. But the next thing.

Speaker 1 Well, yes. So, so you shouldn't.
So, here's what I'll say, just very quickly, and put me on a damn timer, Chris Cody. I thought I was actually, you guys can do more Ethel Merman sound drops.

Speaker 1 I thought I was actually being helpful here.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you should not be able to be scammed more than twice by the same group. I played, I was in,

Speaker 1 god dogg it, where was I?

Speaker 1 I was in, I played in a game that I am certain was rigged in Milan,

Speaker 1 but I played in it once. What was the giveaway?

Speaker 1 The way, so I mean, I kind of caught him, but there's nothing I could do.

Speaker 1 And that was like in rounders, you just like grabbed his hand. Was there a hangar?

Speaker 1 It was a private game in a casino, but it was private. It was in a casino.
James Bond?

Speaker 1 I shouldn't have played.

Speaker 1 As soon as I got there and they're like, oh, there's a bigger game upstairs you can play in. I should have have been like, that's a bad idea, but I was an idiot.

Speaker 1 And I was winning a very little bit, and then I told them, I was like, hey, I got one more round, then I got to leave.

Speaker 1 And second to last hand was one of these setup hands, like that you hear about, but those happen, those happen in real, those happen just organically, or it could be a setup where I get aces, someone else has queens, all the money goes in pre,

Speaker 1 and a queen comes out, and I lose. I'm like, god dog it, You know, bad luck.
And so that I did not know it was rigged because of that. I was like, it's bad luck.
And I left.

Speaker 1 And then, as I'm about three minutes after I left, when I go to get my wife, who's playing Blackjack, I'm like, oh man, I left my sweatshirt up there. And I went back,

Speaker 1 and as I'm walking back, I hear them all talking about it and laughing. I'm like, God dog it.
Bad job by me. It's like, that's a bad job by me.
I love it. It's a bad job by me.

Speaker 1 But I did that to myself. I know.

Speaker 1 I played it in a safer game.

Speaker 4 The sentence, though, I played in a game that was rigged in Milan. It really did.
I think he's James.

Speaker 4 It did make him sound like James Bond, did it not? Yes. Even though he's the sucker in the story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I'm the sucker. Yeah, I'm the sucker.

Speaker 4 The other part of this, though, that, okay, outside of the poker, and you just, you took out Stephen A. Smith, and you took out.

Speaker 1 I didn't take out anybody. I'm just waiting for the

Speaker 1 only journalist left in America.

Speaker 1 Listen, maybe that'll make cocktail parties a little uncomfortable at times. I just want the truth, but go ahead.

Speaker 4 Pablo Torre, do you have anything else for him? You've been very critical of his award-winning podcast.

Speaker 1 I have not been critical. I have not been critical at all of this podcast, actually.

Speaker 1 I have been very complimentary.

Speaker 1 I think that Mikkel.

Speaker 1 Critical of his hot.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 1 I have not.

Speaker 1 I have,

Speaker 1 listen, just like Pablo, I just call balls and strikes.

Speaker 1 And, you know, so do occasionally, do I notice something something like Pablo somehow having Fresh Ready available on his phone a New York Times screenshot from 2019

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 his old Harvard econ professor got an O bit when he passed and uses that to when someone questions his credentials.

Speaker 1 I'm no economist, but I did take a semester of microeconomics and a semester of macro.

Speaker 1 Also, my professor was literally this guy and then just saved screenshot from the guy's new york times obituary do i find that

Speaker 1 adorable of course i do because i'm because everyone does

Speaker 1 i just evidently

Speaker 1 everyone's decided man that someone should say something to pablo we don't want to i bet nick will take care of it for us so i will take on that burden but the podcast is great and deserves all of the flowers and it has been fearless, which is, and so I just want to learn more about the Solitaire app.

Speaker 1 But you want it, you had a question for me about the

Speaker 1 prop betting before we get to your and my big bet, which I've set up beautifully.

Speaker 4 Yes, thank you.

Speaker 4 Outside of the poker elements of this that are fascinating to you, the prop elements of this, they're obviously going to get control of this. You're not going to be able to.

Speaker 4 You're not going to be able to bet individual pitches anymore. And explain to me how we arrive at Emmanuel Classe over what is reported as, you know, $400,000 is risking his career for $400,000.

Speaker 4 I thought that some of these players made too much money to be tempted by the prop bets.

Speaker 1 So I think there is a level of unsophistication from non-gamblers about how easy it is to flag those types of irregularities.

Speaker 1 And so I think it's as simple as victim, it's perceived as a victimless crime. And how are you going to prove it? So I just think it's like ignorance too.
Oh, it is going to be so easy to catch you.

Speaker 1 I think, you know, I think that guy probably thought, you know, I throw a bad first pitch all the time. Prove it.
And so I, so I think that is,

Speaker 1 you know, I think people don't realize that any market that there's typically, you know, very low volume on that all of a sudden has huge volume on it, that always means there's inside information.

Speaker 1 Always.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 the rub is, here is what is true. Pre-massive legalized gambling,

Speaker 1 there were more games, particularly on the collegiate level,

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 someone would be on the take on, and we would not find out. Because

Speaker 1 there wasn't a database of the bets because it was done at bars and, you know what I mean, with bookies or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 So, it is true that legalized gambling has made it way easier and quicker to root out actual game fixing.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, a player on a college team, they're favored by 17, and it's like, okay, I don't have to, we can still win, just not cover.

Speaker 1 That stuff, thanks to legalized gambling, will be discovered instantaneously.

Speaker 1 What is also true is pre-legalized gambling, you could not make these individual player prop bets. They did not exist.
Certainly first pitch, certainly Terry Roger unders and overs.

Speaker 1 Those didn't exist. So how do we account for that? And I think it's very simple.

Speaker 1 I think it's very, I think there are very easy ways because I have said make them one-way markets, which means only offer overs on individual player performance bets.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 that would fix a lot of this. That also, again, I don't want to get too in the weeds, but is really bad for the better.
And I don't want that because

Speaker 1 the thing a two-way market shows you is what the fair price is.

Speaker 1 So if we set Steph Curry's total points at 25 and a half, and the over is minus 140, and the under is plus 100 so you then see oh okay so there is a 20 cent vig that it should be you know it minus 120 is where the equilibrium is you see how much the vig is if you only have overs available to you you don't see what the fair market price is so i don't love that for the better for the consumer so i do think the workaround dan is this i think all of these places saying essentially for anything other than star players, the player prop market has very low limits, like $50.

Speaker 1 And you can because what they want is

Speaker 1 what they want is

Speaker 1 parlays anyway. Because that's what everybody loves to bet these days.
That's what, so you can do, you could have 17 player props in a parlay and still have it.

Speaker 1 So I think that is, I think you just have to put very low limits on non-superstar player props.

Speaker 4 And the superstar is uncontaminated because there's too much to risk, too much money involved. It would cost too much to get in the game.

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Hey, this is the quickest it goes. Stugats.
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Speaker 4 Before we get to our bet and before I get your thoughts on Nico Harrison being let go, because I really, you just can't let a guy you're going to fire eight months later make that trade, Nick.

Speaker 4 Like, that's.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't think they had any idea they were going to fire him. And I heard your guys blasting Mark Cuban.
That's so unfair. And, you know, I'm not,

Speaker 1 and it's not even like I'm a huge Cuban fan, even though it does appear he and I have very similar feelings on the podcast.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I do, I do think that If I had my family home that we've, my family's lived in for a hundred years and it's like, you know what, it's time to sell. The market's great.

Speaker 1 And I sell it to an otherwise seemingly normal person.

Speaker 1 And then three months later, they light it on fire.

Speaker 1 I don't think it'd be fair for like my, you know, my son to be like, why didn't you see that coming, dad? That's where we grew up.

Speaker 1 I'm like, well, I didn't think they were going to burn it to the ground for sport.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't think Cuban could have saw they're going to trade Luka Ncic in the middle of of the night because Nico Harrison is so bothered by the fact that there's someone in the organization more powerful than him.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 your home doesn't have fans, though, Nick. Like, the only people who care about the home are the people living in the home at the time.

Speaker 1 The franchise has millions and millions of people who care about it. My home is.
Yes, but he didn't sell it to... Hold on.
He didn't sell it. He had no reason to think he was selling it to...

Speaker 1 He didn't.

Speaker 1 How would he anticipate if I sell the Mabs to the Adelsons who own casinos They are then going to put in charge the son-in-law who is then going to empower Nico Harrison who is then going to make the single worst trade in a hundred years of sports like I don't get what you're saying like it it it'd been one thing if he's like hey guys I you know I'm selling the team

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 the Paul brothers and and they're gonna to do, or selling the maps to Mr. Beast, and he's going to start holding contests for who's going to be on the team.

Speaker 1 Then it's like, okay, maybe we've done wrong by our fans. He just sold the team to a totally normal

Speaker 1 type of people that buy teams. Yeah, he sold the team to someone who doesn't give a shit about basketball and might have ulterior motives when it comes to their casino business.

Speaker 1 But, okay,

Speaker 1 again, I don't want to, I'm not really trying to argue, but I guess I don't know how to do anything else

Speaker 1 There those are the ulterior motives because of the casino business

Speaker 1 is in direct conflict with trading Luka Ncic

Speaker 1 Unlike so are you are you really so this is I I am gonna be serious about something for a moment I and I'm not accusing you of doing this, but I really really don't like when people bat their eyes at dumbass conspiracies they don't believe because it aids an argument that they want to make.

Speaker 1 If you are arguing that

Speaker 1 trading Luka Doncic was part of a plot to move the Dallas Mavericks and premeditated and all of it, then say that.

Speaker 1 If you think that's as dumb as I think it is, then I don't understand the point you made about their casino business. No,

Speaker 1 there's no proof until that actually happens, so I don't really know about all that, but I do think that as a a caretaker to a franchise, which is what Mark Cuban was, I think there's a responsibility that when the day comes that you're handing over the franchise, that maybe you make sure it's going to continue to be in good hands.

Speaker 1 How do you do that?

Speaker 1 You make sure that you're selling it to people who care. I mean, he decided to sell it to anyone who is offering the most money possible, which of course is his rights.

Speaker 1 And by the way, and by the way, Nick, I mean, how silly is it to assume that he was still going to be the governor of the team? That I think is the biggest point. That part I agree with.

Speaker 1 That part I agree with, even though it now seems like Genie Buss actually is going to be the governor of the team. I agree with that part.
But I just, I don't hear the end of the.

Speaker 1 How do you ensure that this pert, like, one could argue, just for whatever it's worth,

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 the act

Speaker 1 of allowing Luka Doncic to be traded shows

Speaker 1 a more

Speaker 1 not committed but involved owner than most teams have. One would imagine that if it's just I don't give a shit about this asset, I'm just adding it to my portfolio.
That the

Speaker 1 marching orders would be just status quo it, don't do anything crazy.

Speaker 1 Like, again, I think Nico Harrison was a madman, but I don't think, I think retrofitting it to Mark Cuban should have seen coming down the pike that if he sells it to the Adelsons, they are going to value the Maverick so little that they put in charge of it their son-in-law, and he is then going to be

Speaker 1 enraptured by this GM who then,

Speaker 1 so all of those things have to happen, and then that GM has to also say, I want to trade Luka Doncic

Speaker 1 and be convinced not to tell anyone about it. Like, that is, talk about drawing to an inside straight.
That is, that is such an unlikely sequence of events. I think blaming Cuban for it is crazy.

Speaker 1 I just do. Nick, I agree with you on those points.
There's no way to see that coming.

Speaker 1 But when you do sell majority stake of the team and you're still nebulous in your basketball, like I'm going to still be kind of a part of this and like be overseeing stuff.

Speaker 1 But then have something happen that went under your nose and now it's like, oh, no, I didn't see this.

Speaker 4 And you still own 27% of the team. So you're ostensibly going into partnership with these people on they get to make the decisions and you trust them to do so.

Speaker 1 And he hired Nico Harrison, like Cuban, by the way, hired Nico Harrison.

Speaker 1 Correct. So all that to me is like fair criticism.
That part I agree with. I just think that we are, what we have is

Speaker 1 a fan base that has been murdered. Murdered.

Speaker 1 in a way I can, I honestly think is nothing like there's been nothing like it since the dude who owned the Red Sox sold Babe Ruth because he wanted to make a play that I think that

Speaker 1 Ethel Merman was in

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 and we are we are looking at the murdered fan base there is someone standing with a knife over it over the body and we're like hey,

Speaker 1 who's the person that decided to ship those knives to the hardware store? And who's the clerk who sold it to him? It's like, guys, there is one villain here above all else.

Speaker 1 And he's the guy who got fired an hour ago.

Speaker 4 We're going to let him go in a second. Always appreciate his time.

Speaker 4 We'll tell you again, even though his son is not on it, grandpa Nick Wright over the next couple of weeks has a wonderful podcast that he used to do with his son.

Speaker 4 What's right with Nick Wright back when he wasn't a grandpa? What is the nature of our bet? Because

Speaker 4 I'd like to know how it is.

Speaker 4 DraftKings has told me that they are working on a Corvette. And so I think.

Speaker 1 All right, so here's what I propose.

Speaker 1 And this is one is just for, because I want the whole shipping container rooting in the same direction for the biggest Chiefs regular season game that they've played since Mahomes has been there because they don't play big regular season games prior to this year.

Speaker 1 If the Chiefs beat the Broncos by three and a half, I'll give the shipping container plus Tony.

Speaker 1 Who is it that I talk to every day when I first started? It's Tony, right? Lewis. Lewis.
Sorry, Lewis.

Speaker 4 Lewis, Lewis. Lewis is the control.

Speaker 1 Oh, Tony's in the shipping container.

Speaker 1 That's what I thought. I was confused.

Speaker 1 Those Latin guys all look the same. They all look.
They're brothers. That's all.
Okay, first of all, I've never seen Lewis. I don't know what he looks like.
For all I know.

Speaker 1 He He kind of looks like you. Oh, there he is.
Oh, that's a good-looking fellow. You're right.

Speaker 1 You can't imagine how happy you've made him.

Speaker 4 How much is this bet going to be worth that you're going to be?

Speaker 1 No, so listen, I'm just, it's not even a bet.

Speaker 1 Because I'll be in the clear, because I still feel bad. And, Dan, you don't have to put anything up.

Speaker 1 If the Chiefs beat the Broncos by at least three and a half, I'll give the shipping container plus Lewis $2,500 to distribute amongst themselves.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 relax, Cody. And, Cody, you're about to be cut out from the beginning.

Speaker 1 You're really on a

Speaker 1 thin ice. What I would like to do with Dan, but I don't know if now we have time to do it because it's such great content.

Speaker 1 I would like to do a Super Bowl champion draft, me versus Dan, and whomever ends up with the Super Bowl champion, the other person's got to give them the white Corvette. Yes.
That's what I want to do.

Speaker 1 But do we have, I don't know how much time you have left in the show. Do we have time to pull that off?

Speaker 4 Yes, I think we can.

Speaker 1 We're not going to do the draft right now. We will do the draft next week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, let's next time you're on, we will do it, but we will commit to that bet.

Speaker 4 But right now, what you're committing to is the shipping container is rooting five people just because there was confusion about this last time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the four people there today plus Lewis, so it's $500 a man is what they'll get. Wow, Lewis.
Let's listen. Okay.

Speaker 1 Just want to put the record straight. That means Mike Ryan is excluded.
I'm just putting that out there. Yes.

Speaker 1 I mean, is he there today?

Speaker 4 Nope. So it's 500 bucks a piece is what we're saying.
It's 500 bucks a piece this weekend. All they need to root for is the Chiefs three and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay. I will, I'll double that.
All right. So

Speaker 1 are we rooting for the Broncos then? Plus the points? No, no. God, no.
Who said that?

Speaker 1 Droid?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What? We got $1,000?

Speaker 4 See you later, Nick.

Speaker 1 Good talking to you.

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