The Big Suey: The Tiers of Tears (feat. Dianna Russini)

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Speaker 23 Zaz, I just saw this get up headline. What was it? Is the Bills Super Bowl window closed?

Speaker 24 Oh, that's my gimmick.

Speaker 25 What?

Speaker 26 They're doing that?

Speaker 25 They just did it.

Speaker 26 18 hours after Zaz. Zaz, that was super disrespectful yesterday.

Speaker 25 And now ESPN is stealing that?

Speaker 2 Well, who's disrespectful?

Speaker 9 Has the Bills window closed because Ed Oliver's out and they can't stop the run?

Speaker 30 Dan, do you think the Bills are going to the Super Bowl this year?

Speaker 31 They could. They're one of the best.

Speaker 27 Of course they could.

Speaker 24 The Dolphins can too.

Speaker 26 Grand. No, the Dolphins can't.
No, the Dolphins can't.

Speaker 27 No, they can. No, they can't.
They can. No, they can't.

Speaker 2 They can. They can win.

Speaker 28 They can win the rest of their game. They can.

Speaker 27 And they can't.

Speaker 24 They can. Can.

Speaker 27 Saz is right. They can't.

Speaker 31 They can.

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Speaker 27 Bills can't.

Speaker 29 Bills can't.

Speaker 32 Dolphins can.

Speaker 9 Like, that's ridiculous what you're saying.

Speaker 8 Diana Rossini's on with us, senior NFL insider for the athletic and host of the Scoop City podcast. Diana, is the Bills window closed?

Speaker 33 It is not closed, but I'm now very curious about the Dolphins schedule because I'm in Greg's camp here. I think the Dolphins could win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Oh, come on. You're trolling us.

Speaker 33 Well, look, right?

Speaker 2 They've got the Commanders.

Speaker 8 It's an easy schedule. It's the Saints.

Speaker 2 They've got the Saints.

Speaker 33 But they've got the James.

Speaker 29 They're all looking at the Dolphins and saying, we've got the Dolphins.

Speaker 33 Steelers, they've got the Bengals, the Bucs. All right, the Patriots.
Okay. It's easy, then it gets a little harder.
Look,

Speaker 33 anything could happen. The Dolphins' defense looked fantastic.
Where was that all year

Speaker 33 last game? As for the Bills, look, I think what Zaz's point is,

Speaker 33 forget the defense that you mentioned. It's the fact that their offense, when they cannot run the ball, nothing good is happening.
And teams know this.

Speaker 33 Teams run the same play and they have the blueprint to beep the Buffalo Bills, which is stop the run and run the ball on them, right? And they are unable to do either of those right now.

Speaker 33 And so that's my concern.

Speaker 33 And with the trade deadline now passed and them not getting another receiver, even though they tried, they called around, they were in on almost all the ones that were traded.

Speaker 33 We are now left with Josh Allen trying to make magic, which is what we saw him trying to do. And it's just not enough.

Speaker 36 How did they get left out at the trade deadline?

Speaker 20 And is it true, as has been reported, that the Bills made the best of all the offers for Waddle, a one and a three, a one this year and a three next year?

Speaker 33 Yeah, there was some stuff going on with with different teams with Buffalo in terms of the negotiation for how the

Speaker 33 trades would go.

Speaker 33 I don't know for a fact that the Buffalo Bills gave the Miami Dolphins the best offer. I just know the Miami Dolphins were listening, but they really did not want to move him.

Speaker 33 They were not trying to move on from Jalen Waddell. So

Speaker 33 I'm not sure what Brandon Bean would have had to offer for Miami to go, okay, we're in on this.

Speaker 33 I just know that they had a couple lines in the waters with different teams, with New Orleans, with the Vegas Raiders, with the Jacksonville Jags even.

Speaker 33 But in the end, though, they lost out because either the team that they were talking to really didn't want to move the player, or they got beat out by another team, or in some cases, this happens a lot.

Speaker 33 You get used as a team because you know, one team really doesn't want to trade with you.

Speaker 33 So they use that as a way to get another team to, as leverage for another team to pay more. So I think all of that happened, which is why you saw Brandon being so exhausted.

Speaker 33 Did you see his press conference? I haven't seen a gentleman

Speaker 33 talk about that.

Speaker 2 Diana,

Speaker 20 I'm legitimately baffled when I'm not someone who does a lot of this. I assume that people who are invested in their building, the way the builds are, that they're good at their jobs,

Speaker 8 you can't fail to get a wide receiver for Josh Allen at the trade trade deadline.

Speaker 19 You're playing for right now. You're not playing for next year or the year after that.

Speaker 29 This team is viewed as a failure, not unlike the best previous incarnation of the Bills that always collapsed at the end.

Speaker 25 You have to get Josh Allen a receiver.

Speaker 29 It can't be that obvious, Duz, that you can't stop the run.

Speaker 32 You can't run the ball if James Cook is hurt.

Speaker 29 And then all of a sudden it's just Dalton Kincaid is all that they can beat you with.

Speaker 33 It's literally the state of the Bills right now, right? Of what you just defined or how you just laid that out. And you're right, but what are you going to do if you can't get the deal done?

Speaker 33 Like the Buffalo Bills weren't the only team that were after players that couldn't get a guy.

Speaker 33 It just, I hear you. What are you willing to give up? How far are you willing to go? And I think there's consequences if you go too far.

Speaker 33 He was aggressive. The general manager was very aggressive in this.
Just he wasn't able to come up with what he wanted, which is why you heard in the press conference him being like,

Speaker 33 he looked partially tired because it was an exhausting process, because he was having so many different conversations, but obviously annoyed, right?

Speaker 33 So that tells me he was close on a lot of these things and lost out.

Speaker 20 I want to ask you guys before I throw this to Diana, because it was something that baffled me yesterday.

Speaker 20 So Brian Dayball gets fired, and my reaction was just fairly immediately, why does everyone care about this so much?

Speaker 37 Like he started seven and two, had Daniel Jones, and when they were healthy, they looked like maybe it would be something, and then they've done nothing but fail since.

Speaker 39 And then I see a lot of people reacting angrily to you, don't do this to Brian Dayball.

Speaker 20 And I'm just curious, before I throw it to Diana, why do you think people care about that so much when Brian Dayball's just a guy?

Speaker 22 Yes, I agree. It's because it's the New York market.
If Brian Dayball was just fired from the New Orleans Saints, nobody cares, and we're not talking about it. It's New York.

Speaker 22 It's why whoever the Jets coach is or the next Jets coach is going to be disproportionately discussed.

Speaker 22 I really think like I agree with you. Dayball is an unremarkable NFL coach looking for work.

Speaker 24 I don't even necessarily agree with the unremarkable part. Like, okay, fine.
Like, he is just a guy, but he was doing a nice, like, Jackson Dart's having a good season.

Speaker 24 And I understand they're two and eight. I wouldn't want to change, you know, potentially the offense that he runs next year because they have a new coach, Diana.

Speaker 33 Yeah, look, the New York market thing, I'm with you, greg on it and and sometimes i still think that gets blown out of proportion yet look how many people we've seen left leave new york and have success just from the players right like daniel jones leonard williams maybe this will be brian dable's future where he has success outside the giants saquon barkley right um

Speaker 33 but to dan i was with you a little bit from a uh no one was surprised that brian dable got fired right we've been talking about it every single week i think what happened here was because the quarterback has shown that he is talented and could be the guy here, and the relationship between him and Brian Dable seemed to be the best part of watching this New York Giants team before they collapsed against Denver and lost to Philly and just really started losing against the Niners.

Speaker 33 I think there was a moment here where you went, okay. If you're the New York Giants and you have the quarterback, what do you want?

Speaker 33 Well, you want a really good offensive play caller because this kid has potential. Who's a good offensive play caller? Oh, Brian Dable.
Remember what he did with Josh Allen? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 33 Oh, wait, he's our head coach. So I think there was belief that now is the time, the best version of Brian Dable is here.
Unfortunately, the reality is Brian is a good offensive coordinator.

Speaker 33 He is not a great head coach because so much comes with it. And I think that's why in this next chapter of the New York Giants, in terms of what they're going to be looking for,

Speaker 33 I would lean more towards them searching for a, we talk about this kind of in a funny tone, but leader of men, right?

Speaker 33 Someone that is going to hold the best players accountable on both sides of the ball, right? Well, who's out there, right?

Speaker 33 So you've got an Anthony Weaver in Miami who has a really great reputation with his players for being

Speaker 33 a disciplinarian, yet understanding. You've got a Lu Anarumo, who interviewed once before.
He's the Colts defensive coordinator. He interviewed interviewed for the Giants' job.
And from what I recall,

Speaker 33 he interviewed very well. And it was close.
Brian Dable got the job in the end.

Speaker 33 Look, Mike Tomlins' name is floating around there right now because we don't know what the future in Pittsburgh will be. I think we have this conversation every year.
What happens?

Speaker 33 He stays in Pittsburgh because that's how they do it.

Speaker 33 I just think the model. for John Mara, like what he should be looking at in terms of what do I want this to be and look like.
I think they need to look in New England.

Speaker 33 You get the leader of men and you get the really good offensive coordinator. It doesn't,

Speaker 33 the answer of just getting the OC as the head coach, you know, from history, it doesn't really work out as well.

Speaker 33 And I think this Giants team needs that. I think they've tried all the other ways.

Speaker 33 I think this is a time where they need to find the guy that's going to be the disciplinarian again because that's when they've had success.

Speaker 19 Can I get a ruling from the group here who have raised children?

Speaker 20 I think I don't have children, so I'm not going to judge Diana's parenting skills, but I think she's doing something with her kids that some parents might say is not something that you should do.

Speaker 39 Now, how old are your kids, Diana?

Speaker 42 Four and three.

Speaker 39 Okay, so she has been picking up the phone when they're misbehaving, and this works undoubtedly.

Speaker 20 And she has been threatening that she's about to call Santa Claus.

Speaker 17 Yeah, that's a good move.

Speaker 2 That is a good move.

Speaker 17 That's a good move.

Speaker 24 Good for you, Diana. Okay.

Speaker 33 Zaz, is it too early?

Speaker 2 No. Never.
No,

Speaker 24 is it working?

Speaker 33 It is, but with my children, I have learned it runs out. Like, it only works for a week or two, and then they're like, that's not Santa, that's grandpa.

Speaker 2 Okay, so then you move on.

Speaker 24 Like, maybe next time you say, I'm calling the police.

Speaker 2 Oh, wait, wait a minute.

Speaker 15 No, I just said back here, one of my friends,

Speaker 5 they, to their kid, they always are threatening to call the cops.

Speaker 2 Okay, but you guys do.

Speaker 33 No, no, we do that too. We threaten jail a lot.

Speaker 30 What? Good. What? What?

Speaker 33 But here's what's starting to happen. When they see the policemen, they get frightened.

Speaker 33 And you don't want them to be scared of police because if you think of any scenario of an emergency, they're going to probably be helping our children, right? So I don't want them to be frightened.

Speaker 33 Kevin came up with this idea last week, which was putting the children outside.

Speaker 33 And that's been working. So

Speaker 2 to live like animals?

Speaker 31 It's 20 degrees.

Speaker 33 So it's really cold in New Jersey and we have a lot of deer in our backyard. And we threaten that

Speaker 33 that will be their family.

Speaker 33 Oh, my God. God.

Speaker 33 Put the trains away.

Speaker 33 You're going to live with the deer.

Speaker 25 Oh, my God. This is horrifying.

Speaker 31 Okay, this is escal.

Speaker 39 This is escalated.

Speaker 9 Oh, dear.

Speaker 22 I mean, she had lived with the deer. It's frightening.

Speaker 23 This is escalated.

Speaker 39 This is far worse than what I thought we were doing, but I think we skipped over a part.

Speaker 38 Did you say?

Speaker 29 that there is someone on the line and the kids are yelling, that's not Santa Claus, that's grandpa.

Speaker 33 Yeah, so I always think it would, I want to really be in character. So I will call my brother, I will call my dad, I'll call a man that is available to just be, and I'll be like, hey, just be Santa.

Speaker 43 I could be Santa.

Speaker 33 In fact, I feel like that would be a great

Speaker 2 way to do that.

Speaker 15 Somebody will end up on the naughty list if you don't behave.

Speaker 44 Diana, this is so good.

Speaker 31 You should absolutely be calling Chris.

Speaker 30 He will scare the shit out of your kids.

Speaker 33 This is better than the deer.

Speaker 14 Diana, I think you should go a step further. You create a contact in your phone that is Santa's picture.

Speaker 41 So the kids see it.

Speaker 14 You flip the phone and say, look who it is.

Speaker 2 And they're like, oh my God,

Speaker 2 Santa.

Speaker 45 Santa's calling.

Speaker 2 Is it Jerry?

Speaker 7 Another level.

Speaker 33 What if I just called someone in the NFL and was just like, hey, coach, can you just be Santa for me right now while you're in between meetings? Like, could you imagine what the response would be?

Speaker 33 Like, what?

Speaker 2 Who would you pick? Yeah, who'd be a good NFL?

Speaker 19 Obviously, Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 22 No, it's got to be Andy Reid. No, Andy Reid would be.

Speaker 33 Andy Reid would do it because he's nice like that.

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Speaker 20 I was thinking of somebody who's not busy.

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Speaker 48 yes obviously andy reed i'm sorry i take it back mike mccarthy is more of an old elvis if you have a need to have old elvis threaten uh threaten one of your kids i can't believe the escalation though of you're not threatening to throw the kids outside with the deer.

Speaker 29 You have put them outside and said their deer is going to be their family.

Speaker 33 They lose their minds through the glass window because they think they're really going to have to stay out there.

Speaker 2 That's good parenting. Good.

Speaker 2 That's excellent parenting.

Speaker 31 Dan's freezing.

Speaker 31 Somebody should be calling child services on you.

Speaker 33 Dan, you don't get it. For every parent watching at listening.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Dan doesn't get it.

Speaker 33 You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 33 It's between the hours of four and probably seven o'clock, and you're trying to get them fed, and there's a million things going on, and everyone is losing their minds.

Speaker 33 So, there's only one, no, you can't be reasonable with them, right? Like, I can't get down and look at Mikey in the eye and be like, you need to eat your vegetables and sit.

Speaker 33 He's like, I want to play trains. I'm a dinosaur.

Speaker 45 Like, Joe's in the corner.

Speaker 2 All right, call on Santa.

Speaker 40 How cold is it outside?

Speaker 14 26 degrees.

Speaker 2 See ya.

Speaker 47 It is such a great description for boy childhood. I want to play with trains.

Speaker 31 I'm a dinosaur.

Speaker 33 No, they do it all the time. They're constantly.
Then they ask me to to put a spell on them. So they turn into a monster because they want to be monsters all the time.

Speaker 33 So the only way to get a little bit of order.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're living with hyena.

Speaker 20 You're living with hyena.

Speaker 33 I am. I'm living with crazy deer now.

Speaker 33 And the thing is that the three-year-old just,

Speaker 33 he encourages it. Like, he's like, I dare you to put me outside.
And I put him out there and he looks to the window and I take the eggs and I'm like, I got your eggs. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 And you lose.

Speaker 33 That's usually how I get all that.

Speaker 28 Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 9 So is the three-year-old,

Speaker 8 is the three-year-old the smart ass with that's not Santa, that's grandpa?

Speaker 25 Like, who's hitting you with that?

Speaker 33 Oh, the four-year-old's an angel. He's like, oh, yay, Santa.
The three-year-old, the egg one, he is smart. He knows.
He knows what we're doing. Um, so, yeah, he, he, he's gonna be my Diana.

Speaker 39 Would you do me the favor of please calling Chris?

Speaker 8 I want to video this.

Speaker 39 I want, I think that Chris can sell your kids on.

Speaker 35 You put the kid on the-

Speaker 2 as a

Speaker 15 misbehaving again?

Speaker 33 But I want more out of you, Chris. Like,

Speaker 33 I want more direction so we can get some order here.

Speaker 45 We got to talk on the front end. You tell me what they're doing.

Speaker 15 I need more info.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. All right.
Please coordinate.

Speaker 20 I want to scare the kids, and I want Chris to be this Santa who disciplines your kids so we don't have to call child services on you because you're threatening that they're going to live with deer in the frigid North.

Speaker 33 Deer aren't even scary. They just, like,

Speaker 26 you're saying to your kids you're going to live in the woods?

Speaker 2 You're going to be raised by a deer? Deer is scary.

Speaker 2 You're three years old.

Speaker 26 What sort of processing do you think is happening there?

Speaker 38 Wait a minute. I have to live out there that's not that's not warm.

Speaker 2 What the hell is that thing?

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 38 while you say that deer is not dangerous, what do you mean that's going to raise me?

Speaker 47 How am I going to get to practice?

Speaker 33 They go to school with Jets and Giants fans. It can't be much worse.

Speaker 29 Getting back to the things in football, the Patriots, how real is that?

Speaker 2 Very real.

Speaker 33 I think they're ahead of schedule. This is a team that I think they were just trying to straighten up, get organized, figure out what they want to be.

Speaker 33 And I think they're already on this journey to being what they are,

Speaker 33 what they envision this.

Speaker 33 I can tell you,

Speaker 33 it's electric up there. They're energized.
And that is a hard place to be energetic about, especially this time of year in New England. I remember when I was at ESPN and I would cover the Patriots.

Speaker 33 It was the worst assignment. And not because of Bill and Brady and all that.
Like, it was just like, it's it's so just.

Speaker 20 Oh, it's gray and far away and cold.

Speaker 2 No, it's awful.

Speaker 29 They live on the outskirts of civilization. They might as well be raised by deer.
No, seriously.

Speaker 39 People don't know how, do people know how hard it is to get to that place, Diana?

Speaker 47 No, it is the wilderness.

Speaker 22 They're closer to Walpole prison than they are to a city.

Speaker 33 I agree. And so just the fact that they're out there and they're dancing, you know, they're doing all these things.

Speaker 33 I love what they're about. And look, I still don't think this roster's like phenomenal.

Speaker 33 I still think they're kind of a middle-of-the-road type of team that just has a really good quarterback, a great offensive coordinator, and a potential coach of the year leading the way.

Speaker 24 Diana, what the hell did we watch last night?

Speaker 33 What was that? Was it just cold? Like, I don't understand.

Speaker 33 What is

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 33 I'm frustrated at times with this Eagles' offense.

Speaker 33 They had a bye week week to get this together. And I was just expecting it to look more like it did either at the height of last year or even snippets of what we saw before the buy, right?

Speaker 33 Where the run game was on, the uh, offensive line did a good job of protecting, they used the receivers really well, and then it just, it just looks disjointed.

Speaker 33 It doesn't, it doesn't look as good as the Eagles can. And I know they're winning, right? They're still good.
They're going to make a deep playoff run.

Speaker 33 Um, I just, I think when you have a team like this, where at times the offense looks like they're in a bit of a rut,

Speaker 33 they're lucky that they've got such talent because

Speaker 20 that's a tough assignment on the road in the cold in Green Bay. Give me a stat of the day here so people understand what they're seeing from Green Bay.

Speaker 23 Start of the day, start of the day, it is yes, start of the day.

Speaker 23 Start of the day, start of the day, it is yes, start of the day.

Speaker 23 Start of the day, start of the day. It is your start of the day.

Speaker 23 Start of the day, start of the day. It is your start of the day.

Speaker 20 The Packers have allowed, this is from Optostats, the Packers have allowed just 39 total points and 780 total yards in their three losses this season.

Speaker 20 That's the first NFL team to allow fewer than 40 points and fewer than 800 yards over their first three losses of a season since 1940, since the Lions.

Speaker 13 Now, two inexplicable losses: Carolina and Cleveland. But that one last night is not inexplicable.

Speaker 8 Like, that's a good defense they're playing.

Speaker 32 And Philadelphia, look, I know they won 20 of 21 or 21 of 22.

Speaker 47 Winning on the road at Green Bay, if you're Philadelphia, no matter how you do it, is a victory.

Speaker 29 Like, that's something that no one's so spoiled that they can't appreciate, that they're going to complain after that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 33 No, sure. And you look at the teams that they've been this year.
You know, this is not like they have some cupcake schedule. They've played really good teams.
So

Speaker 33 look,

Speaker 33 Philly is really hard to dissect because we know what the roster looks like. Even look at Jalen Phillips.
They just trade for him and he immediately makes an impact.

Speaker 33 Like they do a really good job on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 33 But I just, I think it's the understanding of what they could be is the frustration, right? A.J. Brown, three targets again.
You know, like,

Speaker 33 what is this going to turn into by the end of the season? And how are they going to get him more involved?

Speaker 33 Because I think that's what he wants and i think that's what they want to do uh because he's that good so look they're at the top of the nfc um they've got seattle and the rams who who to me are are the best teams playing right now in football let's get the tears of tears for uh oh yeah for diana let's get these ready so that she can make a ruling for us before we let her go uh and and can you guys uh get for me the jalen phillips tweet please because he had a forced fumble last night he had a recovered fumble last night.

Speaker 20 He had four pressures, no sacks.

Speaker 13 He's going to be helped by that defensive line, which doesn't particularly need his help, but Howie Rosman does what the Bills did not, because they got another pass rusher in Philadelphia in Jalen Phillips.

Speaker 37 When you look at everything, the totality of people complaining in Philadelphia that the offense is not doing enough.

Speaker 20 I want to ask you a question about Lane Johnson, their right tackle.

Speaker 35 Is there a better right tackle in football?

Speaker 33 No.

Speaker 19 Where do you put him on most important players the Eagles have?

Speaker 8 Like, if I said one, two, three, four, five.

Speaker 33 He's the best player on offense for the Philadelphia Eagles. Lane Johnson is the best player on the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 37 I don't think people know this.

Speaker 8 Like, I think people like you know this.

Speaker 29 I don't think the people listening to this, they talk about A.J.

Speaker 42 Brown and they're talking about all the other players that play offense for the Eagles, but that guy gets hurt last night.

Speaker 37 All of a sudden, they're going to have problems.

Speaker 33 Let me be even clearer. It is my opinion, but it's also from me asking the people on the Philadelphia Eagles team recently about this.
I've had conversations with guys.

Speaker 33 Who is the best player on the team? And it is not even questioned. It's always Lane Johnson.

Speaker 39 Always. He's the best right tackle ever.

Speaker 19 And

Speaker 35 do you dispute this?

Speaker 33 I don't dispute this. I'm saying, yes,

Speaker 33 the next player is where I step into some

Speaker 33 spicy stuff because I have said that I thought A.J. Brown was the second best offensive player on the Philadelphia Eagles.
And I think a lot of the world believes it's Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 33 So that's another. Well, A.J.

Speaker 21 Brown believes that it's A.J.

Speaker 2 Brown,

Speaker 35 correct? Like that.

Speaker 13 He believes he's being held back by everything they're doing in Philadelphia's champions, correct?

Speaker 33 He does. I think he just wants to be part of this game plan consistently throughout the game, not in just in moments when they need him, like trying to go for it on fourth down, right?

Speaker 33 I mean, I'm not sure what happened there in terms of him going up for the ball, but

Speaker 33 to me, this is like, it's the same thing week in and week out.

Speaker 33 And look, Howie Roseman got calls people poked around a little bit there was some chatter would they move aj brown and and philly was they were not doing it they they were like unless it's a blow-you-away deal we are not moving him despite the fact that we know it's not the perfect scenario uh Diana, were the Patriots one of those teams that called about the Eagles?

Speaker 12 A.J. Brown's availability?

Speaker 33 In the offseason, I know they had some conversations.

Speaker 33 I don't know how aggressive they were this time around.

Speaker 33 I know that they were looking more on defense during the trade deadline than they were on offense. So look, it makes all the sense in the world in this upcoming offseason if they were to move A.J.

Speaker 33 Brown, New England being a place where he lands because of his relationship with the head coach, but also

Speaker 33 he could definitely be used in New England at this point, right? As they're trying to build this thing.

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Speaker 17 Don Lebatard.

Speaker 33 Are you on the fan right now? Did Mike Greenberg call you yet? Are you ever going to go back to ESPN? People think it's so weird you're a writer now. All those years on TV? All those years?

Speaker 33 And now you write. Who reads that? Stugats.
Why did he take a job at the Atlantic? Mom, I work at the Athletic. What?

Speaker 2 You're on YouTube?

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Let's get out of here. She's the host of Scoop City with the athletic.

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Speaker 24 Diana, is Joe Burrow returning this month?

Speaker 33 No, he is not. I think the hope has been December this whole time.
I still want to see it, though. You know, I think injuries are hard.

Speaker 33 to determine.

Speaker 49 Is the writing on the wall for Kyler Murray in Arizona?

Speaker 33 I do believe so.

Speaker 33 I think this is going to be a really hard decision for this team to make, but I think we're seeing it, right? They're showing us and telling us what direction they're going in here at quarterback.

Speaker 33 And look, there was a time where I think all of us would be surprised that Kyler Murray wasn't going to be the starting quarterback for Arizona with how he was playing and some of the runs he was making and really some of the athleticism.

Speaker 33 But

Speaker 33 I just don't think what he's doing there is good enough for this regime.

Speaker 22 Is there a market for Kyler Murray? Where does it start?

Speaker 33 Yeah, yeah, I definitely think there's a market.

Speaker 33 Look,

Speaker 33 there's going to be plenty of teams that are going to be looking for quarterback next year, right? Look at the New York Jets right now. They would give anything to have somebody.

Speaker 33 I keep joking that Joe Flacco, if Joe Burrow comes back, Joe Flacco should go to the Jets.

Speaker 33 Yeah, there will be plenty of teams, I think, interested in seeing, knowing that he can play. Maybe he just needs a better situation.

Speaker 24 Diana, last year's draft class, Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, rank them who you want.

Speaker 33 Drake May, Caleb Williams, and Jaden. And look, I'm taking this away from Jaden only because he's been hurt, right? Like, I don't know what he would be

Speaker 33 if he was able to be out there, but I love what Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams are doing. And he's doing a better job in the pocket, but he was drafted because of his off-script play.

Speaker 33 And it's been remarkable the last few weeks. That is where he has shined.
And he's got the clutch gene. I love this about this kid.

Speaker 33 He wants to win games and he knows how to do it when the pressure's hot.

Speaker 2 The clutch gene. Hot or hot.

Speaker 43 She's right. She's right.

Speaker 2 She's 100% right.

Speaker 8 I mean, you just dismounted with a diarrhea of clichés.

Speaker 13 Clutch gene.

Speaker 33 He does. The pressure.

Speaker 2 The pressure when it's hot. When the pressure is hot.

Speaker 33 What do you want me to say?

Speaker 9 It's just diarrhea.

Speaker 24 I'll tell you it's clutch. See how Jaime Jaquez Jr.

Speaker 2 last night?

Speaker 49 Diana does not think about Jaime Jaquez Jr.

Speaker 16 as she better start thinking about Jaime Jaque Jr.

Speaker 36 Do you remember when the Rams were gonna trade or let Stafford go to the Giants?

Speaker 33 Oh, I do. I remember it well.
We were in Indy at the NFL Combine. And if you recall, the Rams were being a little wishy-washy on what they wanted to do because they didn't want to pay him more money.

Speaker 33 And the New York Giants were sitting there waiting, kind of begging, please come play for the New York Giants.

Speaker 33 The Las Vegas Raiders were willing to pay him tons of money for him to be the Raiders' starting quarterback.

Speaker 33 But in the end, he never even wanted to leave California and they were able to get that deal done. But what it could have been, right?

Speaker 33 If Matthew Stafford, this is a team that looks primed, ready to go for the Super Bowl with Sean McVay.

Speaker 33 If he was in New York, would Brian Dable still have his job?

Speaker 49 Talk about clutch jeans. Matthew Stafford, Dan, that guy's got a clutch gene like no other.

Speaker 33 I just want to know what's another way of saying somebody comes through in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 2 Perfect way of saying it.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 2 Clutch jean dancer. I'm wrong.
A clutch jeans. Thank you.

Speaker 9 He wears clutch jeans.

Speaker 44 Yes, that's right.

Speaker 44 We should start making those. Clutch jeans.
We should start making those lever tardy updates.

Speaker 2 They do sound very tight, Greg.

Speaker 8 Jeremy has one question to close it out.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Which is worse, Diana?

Speaker 9 Weeping or sobbing?

Speaker 33 Sobbing.

Speaker 39 Keep going, though, though, Jeremy. Keep going.
Well we have a full list here.

Speaker 1 Where would you put wailing in that mix with those two?

Speaker 33 Wailings together.

Speaker 1 Alright, so here's our full tears of tears. So it starts with a frog in the throat, then sniffling, then sniveling,

Speaker 1 lamenting, choking back tears.

Speaker 46 Is it dusty in here?

Speaker 1 Cutting onions?

Speaker 1 Allergies. Shedding a tear, boo-hooing, whimpering, then standard crying, then the morning cry, and then the morning as if you're a morning cry.

Speaker 2 That's got to be a big one, bursting shower cry.

Speaker 1 See, I figured morning cry, shower cry pretty similar, right?

Speaker 1 But are you going to be a motherfucker?

Speaker 2 Which morning are you talking about in the morning or when I'm sad because someone passed?

Speaker 1 We could add the shower cry. Well, let's get through the list and then we can figure out where that shower cry goes.

Speaker 1 So after the second morning cry, we have bursting into tears, then waterworks, crying a river, bawling, wailing, crying your eyes out, hysterical crying, crocodile tears, blubbering, weeping, sobbing, and the no Sean Moreno tear.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 49 I was waiting for that one.

Speaker 33 There were a couple in there that I thought you ranked in the wrong order.

Speaker 2 A little too high.

Speaker 33 Yeah, a little too high.

Speaker 33 Like, sobbing was too low.

Speaker 35 What is the highest form?

Speaker 8 Is it wailing? What is the highest form of sobbing?

Speaker 45 No Sean Moreno tear is right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the highest form. Wailing.

Speaker 13 More than blubbering.

Speaker 19 All right.

Speaker 33 I just think anytime you cry in, like, whatever the private version of it is always going to be the worst, right? Because that's when you can truly let go. Very few people will do that in public.

Speaker 5 Where's the shower cry going, though?

Speaker 33 I mean, in my life, it's probably the top line.

Speaker 2 It's the worst one. So I'll put it just beneath the body.

Speaker 50 It's the word.

Speaker 25 The shower cry is the word.

Speaker 39 Because

Speaker 39 you're by yourself. You can get away from everyone.

Speaker 18 You're alone.

Speaker 19 And you're alone with your alone and your pain.

Speaker 8 And it's just a private cry.

Speaker 33 Car cry. The car cry is good, too.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 2 Car cry is a strong cry.

Speaker 22 When you stop at a red light, somebody's looking at you crying and drinking.

Speaker 45 No, it's always in your driveway.

Speaker 1 No, see, that's why that one feels even stronger to me than the shower cry because the shower cry can feel almost cathartic, right? There's like an emphasis of release. You're alone.

Speaker 1 But the car cry, it's like you can't even wait until you get home and hop into that shower.

Speaker 2 Car cry cry.

Speaker 45 It's a dark cry.

Speaker 33 I like the shower cry to release the most because the water is kind of camouflaging all my tears. You know what I mean?

Speaker 33 It's like all mixed in as one that I can't even decipher what's my tears and what's just the water, and I then don't feel so horrible about myself.

Speaker 20 Put it on the poll, please, Juju.

Speaker 36 What's the worst of the cries? The shower cry or the car cry?

Speaker 8 Diana, thank you. We've kept you too long because Jeremy is using the brain.
Really quick though, Diana.

Speaker 40 Does Bonix stink now, Diana? I don't know. You tell me.

Speaker 9 Oh, a stray football question after the music has died.

Speaker 21 He's efficient.

Speaker 2 It's a quick question. Do you realize too?

Speaker 31 Does Bonick stink now?

Speaker 9 Do you realize that this is Diana's life as she walks through life?

Speaker 8 Some guy shouting behind her.

Speaker 2 Does Bonick dance there ain't two? Does he stink?

Speaker 31 This is her life.

Speaker 38 Look, in the Northeast, especially, guys like you on a street corner,

Speaker 38 guys like you

Speaker 26 asking for the opinion of does Bo Nick stink

Speaker 28 as she's trying to leave.

Speaker 38 She's got to leave.

Speaker 44 Thank you, Diana.

Speaker 2 He does.

Speaker 33 He doesn't. He does.

Speaker 2 Goodbye. Goodbye.
That's my girl.

Speaker 2 Goodbye.

Speaker 18 Oh, oh, oh, goodbye, Diana.

Speaker 38 You got to do this, okay?

Speaker 47 Listen to me. I want it to escalate.

Speaker 50 Look, if she's willing to put her kids...

Speaker 15 You're on the naughty list.

Speaker 39 Listen, if she's willing, okay, to

Speaker 28 scare her children.

Speaker 25 To tell the American people, okay, that she puts her children in freezing cold to be raised by deer as a threat.

Speaker 28 I need this to escalate into you become a really threatening Santa.

Speaker 31 Like you need to be.

Speaker 38 You need to start out really kind, but it needs to escalate.

Speaker 28 Like we've got six weeks to perfect this, and I want those kids scared for Christmas that what's coming down their chimney is doing so with a machete.

Speaker 1 You go outside right now.

Speaker 44 Can you get me the sound of Mad Dog Please complaining about the government shutdown?

Speaker 22 Audience should be ashamed.

Speaker 53 Every single elected official on both sides of the aisle should look themselves in the mirror how they let down the American public and made us a laughing stock around the world.

Speaker 53 Around this is not about winners and losers, who is right and who is wrong. This is about doing something good for the American people and say, you know what?

Speaker 53 All right, they're wrong, but I got to step up here and make sure that the air traffic controllers are there with aircraft and

Speaker 53 in towers. Not saying, you know, your turn, LaGuardia, your turn, Kennedy.
Newark, it's been 40 minutes. Send a plane out that's been sitting there for 15 hours.
That's not the way this works.

Speaker 53 If you're the president of the United States or you're a Republican who controls everything, you do what's right for the American person and they didn't do that.

Speaker 53 And the Democrats, you're dead wrong, too. The both of you, you all go to hell.
Every single one of you.

Speaker 2 Oh, he keeps going. That's part one.
Hit a royal.

Speaker 53 I mean, it's ridiculous what they put us through. I mean, who knows how dangerous it was to fly with nobody in the freaking towers.
I mean, my God almighty.

Speaker 53 And I got the president sitting there with freaking Vilma breaking down the 2003 Saints. I mean, you can't make this stuff up.

Speaker 53 And chest pumping Vilma when America, when they got a 75-year-old who's been sitting at Miami International for three days, can't hear. He's got a hearing aids.

Speaker 53 He can't hear the announcements of when his jet blue flight takes off for Bozeman. Oh my god, it's sickening.
I can't stand it.

Speaker 53 I should move the hell out. I should be, well, Who the one? Who, Susan Lucci? Who moved? No, Lingoria moved.
I should do the same thing. I'll do the show from Madrid.

Speaker 53 I'll do it live at 9 o'clock at night. Jesus Christ.
Oh, my God. 11 in front of the hour.
Returning, I'm in.

Speaker 2 The goat.

Speaker 31 Holy shit.

Speaker 2 Just a

Speaker 2 fireball.

Speaker 16 I listened to that in the shower this morning.

Speaker 2 Did you cry?

Speaker 39 Can you get me the sound, Roy, of him just tripping on himself on the way to Susan Lucci?

Speaker 39 and get me the sentence because it's a musical sentence of where he's so mad and the spit is gathered in his mouth that all of a sudden we're not flying we're frying where where he's not he can't even get the L because it's an R instead because he is just frothing at the mouth I guess should move the hell I should be well who the one who's Susan Lucci who moved

Speaker 31 I want you to imagine

Speaker 44 mad at the federal government then the federal government just punching him repeatedly in the stomach as he tried to say that.

Speaker 53 I should move the hell out. I should be well.
Who the one? Who Susan Lucci? Who moved?

Speaker 24 I just feel bad for the guy with the hearing aids who can't hear. It's time to board.

Speaker 17 Seriously.

Speaker 31 Point of Bozeman.

Speaker 28 It was so good. His word choices were so good.

Speaker 47 He went all over the map and he picked the perfect cities to send people to. And he threw hearing aids at the guy in Miami because I've seen him.

Speaker 30 I've seen him the last three days.

Speaker 31 Every time I'm over there, there's somebody wandering around because the government shut him out.

Speaker 26 It happened to to Zaz.

Speaker 50 Zaz was that man with three hearing aids at the Atlanta airport.

Speaker 24 Trying to get to Miami International.

Speaker 16 How many ears you got?

Speaker 39 Who disagrees with anything he said there? Nope.

Speaker 38 Nobody.

Speaker 50 He speaks for the American people.

Speaker 27 Republicans, Democrats, you're awful.

Speaker 47 Whether it's flying or it's frying or whether he's talking about Susan Lucci or someone else, he moved me.

Speaker 39 He moved us all with part one and part two of Mad Dog Speaks for America.

Speaker 24 When Mad Dog puts it in that context, the optics of the president doing play-by-play, it's a little rough.

Speaker 9 It was great. A great choice talking to Jonathan Phillips.

Speaker 18 All three states.

Speaker 39 Look, this is what I tell Zaz this all the time. Zazzlo show 2.0.

Speaker 8 I say the thing that's the difference between the show he does and the show we do is, hey, Zaz, have you noticed that when you're on your show, you don't get to laugh.

Speaker 36 You don't get to laugh because you're talking to yourself. So you're not going to make yourself laugh.

Speaker 2 He broke character laughing at himself in the middle of that.

Speaker 38 Like he was trying to stay in character, and he found himself too funny with his word choices.

Speaker 25 Can you play that back for me again?

Speaker 29 I want to hear the whole thing again.

Speaker 35 Let's see.

Speaker 34 We have a very important, I think it's a very important couple of plays. Here we go.
Second and seven.

Speaker 34 Second and seven. Let's see what happens.
Whoa.

Speaker 34 All right. Kroski Merritt.
Not bad. Takes it down to the five-yard line.
That's right. That's right.
Good runner. Here we go.

Speaker 8 The Jonathan Vilma going through the 2004 Saints is where he lost it, right?

Speaker 44 Where Where he's thinking to himself that the place where Mad Dog is losing it is he's thinking the reality is funnier than fiction, which is while my grandfather is walking around MIA because the government can't do anything, the president who wants that stadium named after him, by the way, and probably will get it named after him, is doing that terrible play-by-play with Jonathan Vilma after 40 years covering sports.

Speaker 8 It's too much to stay inside of Chris Russo's head without him laughing at himself because of the absurdity of it.

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