Local Hour: The MVP Conversation Bar
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Speaker 7
Let's start with the good news. That's good news.
Bet Cody's alive and well.
Speaker 2 Okay, okay.
Speaker 7
I know everyone bated breath yesterday. We made a couple of jokes.
People felt it was in poor taste. We didn't really get any confirmation from Greg himself yesterday.
People were worried.
Speaker 7
But the good news is he's alive. He's awake.
He's well. The surgery was a success.
Speaker 1 But you said good news, so there's no bad news.
Speaker 7 There is bad news, man. It is actual bad news.
Speaker 6 It's actual legit shit news.
Speaker 7 So last night, or early this morning, I should say, Miami Heat head coach Eric spolstra's house burnt down like like for real it's not one of those where like the house oh it was
Speaker 7 like a tyree pill situation right right right like eric spolstra house isn't there anymore it looked like like the la fires like burnt off done and so i i heard this story early this morning i was under the impression that the team was still on the road and i'm like oh that that's messed up to to have to find out you know on the news he probably got back home like the middle of the night he was there yeah so they got back from the trip and then the fire was reported at 4 30 in the morning oh my god and and and the like the news video there has him outside his house like just standing there staring at it and uh you know i have a lot of friends who who lost their houses in the la fires and there's there really is nothing that you can
Speaker 7
compare that to in terms of That feeling that you've lost everything. And it's not about the material things.
It's not about, obviously, Coach Suppo has made a lot of money. He can buy a new house.
Speaker 7
He can rebuild this house. That's not the issue.
The issue is all the things that can't get replaced. Of course.
Right? All the like personal effects,
Speaker 7 pictures and
Speaker 7
memories, and things. Obviously, when you have kids, your kids' favorite things, your kids, the report card where they got all AIDS and all that stuff.
And that's all gone. And sometimes,
Speaker 7 like, that's the stuff that it's hard to explain to a child, right? Or children.
Speaker 7
We can't replace it. It's done.
It's gone. It was a memory, and now we've got to move on.
Speaker 6
I feel terrible for him. Yeah.
I really do. Like,
Speaker 6 I feel like, especially growing up, you all have that.
Speaker 6 Everybody thinks, like, well, you know, if your house is on fire, what will be the thing that you grab, you know, to make sure it doesn't get burnt down, you know?
Speaker 6 And of course, to me, it's my championship rings. But everybody's like, hey, what would it be the thing that you grab?
Speaker 2
Well, you can grab anything. Like, the whole house burnt down.
Like, it's gone.
Speaker 8 I feel awful for for him.
Speaker 2 At that point, it's more important to get your family and you out safely, right? Like, yeah, some things are irreplaceable, but also it's about being safe, right?
Speaker 2 So it's like there's things that are replaceable. Some things are not replaceable, but in the grand scheme of things, 5, 10, 20 years down the road, not going to make that big of a difference.
Speaker 2
The most important thing is everybody's safe. 100%.
If there were kids in the house, kids are safe.
Speaker 6 Well, you do assume it was just him, considering he likely got back in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 You never know. But at least, you know, everything, humans are safe.
Speaker 7 The news is everyone is safe. There's no one was hurt.
Speaker 7
You're right, Tony. That's the first thing you worry about.
That's the first place your brain goes to.
Speaker 7
And you say, thank God. And, you know, you count your blessings.
When do they play again? But then there's a, I think they play tomorrow. Tomorrow, yeah.
But then there's, there's a, there's a.
Speaker 2 Oh, shit, we got to do everything else again. 100%.
Speaker 7 And again, like, you know.
Speaker 7 I hope I'm not speaking out of turn here, but like Rachel Nichols' house burnt down in those L.A. fires.
Speaker 7 And just the idea idea of that, her kids having to adjust to living in a, in a new house and the school, like everything that they know, right? The Walgreens they went to, done. The school,
Speaker 7 the public library, like all the things that was their life are done.
Speaker 6 And I think as-and it's like, all right, where are you going to go live right now, you know, for the next however, maybe the rest of the season.
Speaker 7
Right, right. So I guess my thing is like when you're talking about kids as adults, I think, I don't know if you went through this Zaz.
I remember before I had kids, I live anywhere. I live anywhere.
Speaker 7
I mean, that's not a great neighborhood. It's a great deal, though.
I'll live there.
Speaker 2 And then you have kids, like, I don't want to live in this neighborhood. Oh, what's the school district?
Speaker 7
Like, all these other things start to take precedent in the decision-making. Of course.
So, same thing here.
Speaker 7 It's like, if I were a single dude with no children and everything, my house burned down, I'd be mad. Obviously, if I lost personal items that can't be replaced, I'd be distraught.
Speaker 7 But there's a part of me like, okay,
Speaker 7
deal with it. Move on.
Next day, what are we going to do? What are you going to do? You're going to cry about it. It's gone.
It's done. It ain't coming back.
Speaker 7 But when you have kids in the equation, that's a little harder.
Speaker 2 It's harder to tell them to move. You can't tell them to move on.
Speaker 6
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, not to speak out of turn, he's divorced from the kid's mother. Like, who knows how often the kids actually live with him, especially during NBA season.
Sure.
Speaker 6 But for me, it's more about like,
Speaker 6
that's all your shit. It's all your shit.
And now you have no shit. And it's like, figure it out.
And that to me is, man,
Speaker 6 that gives me aches thinking about it.
Speaker 7
Even if the kids are there every other weekend, that's still my room. That's still my stuff.
That's still the thing that I might have said. So I take it with me back to my, I just leave it.
Speaker 7 I'll get it next time.
Speaker 2 And I was gone.
Speaker 7 And again,
Speaker 7 it sounds like I'm talking about material things, but we're not. Oh, man.
Speaker 2 We're talking about things.
Speaker 6 emotional stuff, man. Some materials.
Speaker 7 The emotional connections that people make and specifically that children make.
Speaker 7 As I said, an adult can move.
Speaker 6 And now you got to make yourself a new home.
Speaker 7 That sucks, man. Yeah.
Speaker 2 No, it's,
Speaker 7 it is, it's, it's a tough situation.
Speaker 6 And again, people can be like, oh, you know, he makes a ton of money, like, he'll be okay.
Speaker 6 Yeah, well, of course he's going to be okay, but it doesn't take away from, you know, what I'm sure is a massive emotional toll that he is dealing with right now.
Speaker 7 So prayers out to the Spolster family. Hope.
Speaker 6 Like that's the worst thing, right? Like outside of family members being sick or family members dying, losing your home is the next worst thing, right?
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 7 No, I mean like yes. After if we if we're the Maslow's hierarchy of needs, right? Like number one is, is everyone safe and healthy? Yeah.
Speaker 2 Right? Boom.
Speaker 7
That's great. Okay.
The next thing is shelter.
Speaker 6 Yeah, now you don't have a place to live.
Speaker 7 I don't have a place to live.
Speaker 7 Or, you know, or for millions of Americans who are dealing with the government shutdown and the removal of snap benefits, like being able to eat, like these are the very next things on the human need hierarchy.
Speaker 7 So health, something to eat, somewhere to stay.
Speaker 2 So Schumer shut down.
Speaker 7
Our thoughts are with the Spolster family. I hope everybody's okay, both physically, mentally, and emotionally.
But
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dad, insult to injury. Bam out of bio got hurt last night.
Foot injury early in the game.
Speaker 2 Kind of a sneaky injury because I was watching the game and then it was list Bam's not there and it's like, oh, he's hurt. And I was like, well, one.
Speaker 6
Yeah, did they ever show any kind of replay? Because it was like mid-first quarter and Eric Reed was just all matter of fact, you know. Bam's gone to the locker room.
He's questionable return.
Speaker 2 It was like, what?
Speaker 7 I saw one
Speaker 7 angle where he's just running up the floor and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2 pain, right?
Speaker 7 I don't know. We don't have the details as far as what exactly, what part of his foot, but obviously this is a huge blow to the heat.
Speaker 7 They're off to, despite, you know, what's a 500 record or whatever,
Speaker 7 a positive start to the season.
Speaker 6 Really tough schedule to start this season.
Speaker 2 500 with the West Coast trip at the start of the season.
Speaker 2
That's pretty good. Jokic took full advantage.
He had his seventh career game of 30, 15, and 15 plus. Very good player.
He's solid.
Speaker 2 Keep an eye out on him. MVP?
Speaker 2 If we're. Oh, you know what? Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 7 We'll slow down. Before we get into that talk, let me just give you guys a stat of the day.
Speaker 7 An early stat of the day.
Speaker 7 So last night, Nikolai Jokic Jokic led the Nuggets in points, rebounds, and assists, but also he was the high man for the game,
Speaker 7
even over anyone in the heat, in points, in rebounds, and assists. That's the 78th time he's done that in his career.
That's the most by any player since the 76th NBA-ABA merger.
Speaker 7 Second place, LeBron James,
Speaker 7 68.
Speaker 2 So hold on, let's run that back again. So Jokic
Speaker 2 had more points, rebounds, and assists
Speaker 2 than anybody.
Speaker 7 More points than anybody, more rebounds than anybody, more assists than anybody. And he's done 78 times 78 times.
Speaker 7 And the number two guy on the list is LeBron, who's done it 68 times, 10 less times, despite playing what 11 years
Speaker 2 more than Jokic has played.
Speaker 2 Good player.
Speaker 2 MVP. How good of a player?
Speaker 2 V
Speaker 2 of the game.
Speaker 2 Zaz?
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 2
I know there's fatigue about this guy. I know he's won a bunch already, but he's already in mid-season playoff form.
Nicole Jokic, my MVP of the day.
Speaker 6 Yup. So if we're having a conversation about MVP, you got to include Jokic?
Speaker 2 I have to.
Speaker 2 Even if he's not playing well, I have to include him because I know at some point he's going to turn it on and he's going to be better than everybody else in the in in in the on the court and in the league so right now today jokic might be just to clear things up for me and the audience gone yeah um conceptually is this an mvp of the day like the imaging suggests or are we still doing king of the mountains style like yokic is still trying to climb over jaquez this is this is who is in the mvp conversation in the bar yeah that's what this is all right so it's like maxi and jaquez
Speaker 2
if you've been listening those guys have been in the conversation. That's right.
Oh, okay. I thought it was King of the Mountain style.
Speaker 7
Like, you got to take them down. Not come out.
No, the MVP Conversation Bar, which is adjacent to this
Speaker 7
segment, but still, I believe we're all in the same canon, the same universe. It's a bar.
There's a guy outside a bouncer. If you're not in the MVP conversation, you can't get in the bar.
Speaker 7 That's right. Right? So, for example.
Speaker 2 It's like the Heisman Club. Yeah, a little bit like Heisman House.
Speaker 2 FVP
Speaker 2 of the day.
Speaker 2 Thank you.
Speaker 1 I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 So I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2 Were you about to do it again? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 You know about those nuggets?
Speaker 6 That's right. That's right.
Speaker 7 I'll give you an example, right? Anthony Edwards, great player, right? Has been in the MVP conversation bar the last couple of years.
Speaker 2 He's not in right now. Right now?
Speaker 7 Bounce is that, sorry, big dog, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 I haven't seen that fool.
Speaker 7
We're full today. We're full today.
It's like, hold on, check back with me.
Speaker 7 The bounce is doing all that stuff. He's on Haquez's list.
Speaker 2 Well, I don't know if Haque
Speaker 2 has had a brief stint.
Speaker 2 I don't know.
Speaker 2 He got in. He got in.
Speaker 6 If we're having a conversation on MVP, Jaime Haque is in the conversation.
Speaker 2 He's in cover charge.
Speaker 2 He got there for happy charge.
Speaker 7 Sometimes, Mike, you can get in the bar and they can eject you out.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 7 You can be asked to leave. Is he at that point?
Speaker 2
Has he? Has already been asked to leave? No, I don't think he's been asked to leave, but the problem is that Jokic came in with mad Serbians. Yep.
So it's like, all right,
Speaker 2 we don't have that much space. So Anthony Edwards is at the velvet rope saying, you don't remember me? I spent a lot of money here.
Speaker 7
Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. But you know what? At some point, maybe the bouncers is, all right, man, you got it.
What's your name?
Speaker 2
What's your name? I want your name. This is going to be so funny for you.
Oh,
Speaker 2 I know the owner of this place.
Speaker 7 Just wait.
Speaker 7 The other part of the MVP conversation is the guys are in there. Okay, so you're in the bar, but they're all standing in a circle.
Speaker 7 And the guy standing in the middle of the circle, he's got a drink in his hand, and he's telling the craziest story, and everyone's silent just watching. That's the guy who's the front runner for MVP.
Speaker 7 The closer you are to that guy, the more your chances of being MVP is. Maybe you're also trying to jump in.
Speaker 2 Like, hold on.
Speaker 2 Like, SGA was there telling the story, but then Jokic came and said, No, no, no, hold on. Wait, listen to this.
Speaker 7
Yeah, like, listen to this. Exactly.
The farther you are out, you're in the conversation, but. But you're an earshot.
Speaker 2 You're not really saying anything. You're just listening.
Speaker 7 You're a listener. So, Hawkez, for whatever he was in the bar,
Speaker 2 he's kind of peeking over the car. Yeah,
Speaker 7
he's just happy to be here. He's like, oh my God, I can't wait to tell everybody.
I was at the bar, and it was Jokic, and it was Shay, and it was Luca.
Speaker 2
And Wemby was there. Wemby was there.
I'm so picking that, everybody.
Speaker 6 I think right now the guy in the center that you're talking about there
Speaker 2 is Luca. Wow.
Speaker 6
Luca is the one who's doing story time, holding the drink. But I'm going to tell you something.
If we're going to have a conversation about MVP,
Speaker 6
we better have a conversation about Kay Cunningham. That's right.
The Pistons last night improved to 6-2.
Speaker 2
Hold on. Hold on.
He needs imaging. This just does not feel right without it.
Speaker 2 So there's two.
Speaker 7 He's in the bar.
Speaker 2 I mean, Flair was cutting a promo during commercial break. What are we doing?
Speaker 6 If we're going to have a conversation about MVP,
Speaker 6 Cade Cunningham's in that conversation.
Speaker 2 What do you know about Cade Cunningham?
Speaker 6
I know about Cade Cunningham. You know about Cade Cunningham? Pistons are now 6-2.
Cade Cunningham, 31 points, 10 assists last night.
Speaker 6 If we're going to talk MVP, somebody better be talking about Cade Cunningham. That's somebody who sounds like me.
Speaker 2 Buddy, you know when I was talking about Cade Cunningham? When? Last year.
Speaker 2 Okay. Last year's last year.
Speaker 2 Yeah, but I was on the mountain already. Are you not familiar with his very high-stakes bit of getting highly touted prospects and having the gall to say this guy might be good someday?
Speaker 2
Are you not familiar with this? That's your bit. That's my bit.
That's his bit. I would lose it.
He identifies a couple of people that he thinks have high ceilings and he says, watch out for this guy.
Speaker 2 And then when they're all pros, he pretends like he's calling Cowherd.
Speaker 7 Watch out for this number one overall pick. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2
There was a lot of people down on him. A lot of people didn't like the piss.
He's hurt. I know.
That's what I was saying. That was my point.
He's hurt.
Speaker 6 He's in the conversation, right?
Speaker 7 Dude, he's in the bar.
Speaker 2 Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2 Coach of the year, you better be having a conversation about Tiago Splitter. Whoa.
Speaker 7
How about career-defining wins? Dude. Dude.
Can you have a career-defining win?
Speaker 2 Are they putting Chauncey Phillips? Are they putting Chauncey Phillips under the jail?
Speaker 6 From what I understand, Portland Chobez fans were thrilled that Chauncey's not the coaching.
Speaker 2 I mean,
Speaker 2 it's a small sample, right? But this team is
Speaker 2 as a great would one say awesome.
Speaker 2 They just handed the defending champs their first laws. Man,
Speaker 6 you remember that game too in 2013
Speaker 6 when LeBron blocked the interim head coach of the Portland Trailblazers, blocked him right at the rim. Shit was awesome.
Speaker 6 One of the best moments of my life.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2 I hate Chauncey Billips. What?
Speaker 6
Yeah. I hate him too.
Dude,
Speaker 2
2004. Absolutely should not be in the Hall of Fame.
Dude, absolutely not.
Speaker 2
Oh, you're nuts. You guys are nuts.
In the tier of opposing basketball team hate, Knicks aren't in my top two. Really? I swear.
And I hate the New York Knicks.
Speaker 7 Who's one?
Speaker 2
Number one, and they did a lot to earn it. They did a lot to earn it.
It was a Celtic. Really? Number two.
I hated that Pistons team.
Speaker 2 They were a roadblock for Miami.
Speaker 7 Pistons over Knicks. Dude,
Speaker 6 think of this Pistons team. Okay, but is it Pistons over Knicks now because of your memories, or are you taking yourself back to the time?
Speaker 2 I've taken myself back to, and I had an intense hatred for the knicks that went for several years but the pistons thing went for several years it's only one year they knocked him out yeah well that's true that's true but the pistons the knicks knocked out three times yeah see i disagree with you mike here because i hated the pistons you remember rashid wallace's face
Speaker 2 it's a stupid face it's a stupid face
Speaker 2 i hated his face be careful guys
Speaker 2 i care about you don't you remember pat riley His shot is like snow falling off a bamboo leaf. That's the highest compliment Pat Riley has ever bestowed upon him.
Speaker 6
He never got past the Knicks during that stretch. Like the Heat got, they slayed the Pistons and they won the title.
But you're with me though.
Speaker 2 Sneaky team in terms of like the history of this coincidence.
Speaker 6 We hated those Pistons.
Speaker 2 You could probably say Pacers ahead of the Pistons.
Speaker 2 No, no, we own them.
Speaker 2 No, we own them.
Speaker 7 If you never lose to them,
Speaker 7 then they can't do that.
Speaker 2 But it was always so close, Joe. That's the thing.
Speaker 6 Nah, we made them believe it was close.
Speaker 2 It wasn't close.
Speaker 6 There was never a moment. There was never a time the Heat fans like.
Speaker 2 You weren't afraid of David Weiss?
Speaker 6 They were were down 2-1 in 2013.
Speaker 2 Dexter Pittman start. It got a little dicey.
Speaker 2
It got a little dicey down. Why do you tell me you weren't afraid of David West? You're lying to me right now.
Green Wade went to Tom Creen. He ran into Tom Creen's warm bosom.
Speaker 6
It got a little dicey. Down two games in one, down by 10 at halftime in game four.
It got a little dicey. I'll admit.
Speaker 2 I'll admit.
Speaker 6 Chauncey Phillips should not be the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7
Absolutely. The Hall of Famer.
Oh, yeah. Absolutely is the Hall of Famer.
Speaker 6
I mean, Chauncey Phillips, one time in his career, was all NBA. One time.
It was all NBA third team, too, by by the way. So you're telling me.
Speaker 7 We don't split hairs on that.
Speaker 6 That's not splitting hair. It's a real thing.
Speaker 2 You're all NASA. Anyway,
Speaker 2 anyway.
Speaker 6 No, that's not true at all.
Speaker 6 You're saying there's not a difference between all-NBA first team and all NBA third team?
Speaker 1 Anyway,
Speaker 7
he's three-time all-NBA. Thank you very much.
Really? He's a five-time all-star. He's two-time all-defensive team.
He's a finals MVP
Speaker 7 and gold medalist.
Speaker 6 Was he ever all-NBA second team or only third-party team?
Speaker 2 He was chirked up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 He was emotional during those games, too.
Speaker 2 I thought he was only all-NBA third team.
Speaker 6 Was he ever all-NBA second?
Speaker 7 He was
Speaker 7 all league. Here we go.
Speaker 2 Sorry.
Speaker 7 Second team, second team, second team.
Speaker 2 Really? He was never third team. He was third team.
Speaker 7 What doesn't matter?
Speaker 2
He's going to jail. He's still life.
Tiago Slater.
Speaker 2 He is the star witness for the FBI. Tiago Slitter.
Speaker 7 He's the guy with the modulated voice on Pablo's podcast.
Speaker 2 Well, I just started running stuff in the half court.
Speaker 7 Then I heard a gut shot. Then another gut shot.
Speaker 2 I should close out.
Speaker 7 Is gut shot the phrase of the year? I mean, for those of us who don't play poker,
Speaker 7 this concept of a gut shot, I'm like, oh, I kind of like it. I like the idea of like, how do you explain like this Hail Mary blind faith? It's gut shot.
Speaker 2 Like, oh, ah.
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Speaker 7 That's a different colour.
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It's a little bit more elongated. It's a little bit more central.
That's not where I'm going.
Speaker 2 I'm going with more of the
Speaker 7 gut or like an axe.
Speaker 2 That was was like a bow.
Speaker 2 It's on the
Speaker 7 just changing the pitch. So we're having a conversation, and Tony says, out loud,
Speaker 7
this new Running Man movie, is it a remake? And I said, you've never seen the Running Man. You've never even heard of it before this.
So what are your impressions of The Running Man?
Speaker 7 Like, what of what you've seen?
Speaker 2
But he's running. He's running.
He's right. That boy's running.
So I figured out what it was, right?
Speaker 2 It's Forrest Gump.
Speaker 2 With With Bounty Gate, basically.
Speaker 2 Like, I was watching the commercial. Obviously, they have they play them on the NBA games or whatever, and I'm like, hmm, I like the concept.
Speaker 2
Basically, bounty hunters chasing a guy for 30 days. If he eludes them, you make a billion dollars.
Okay, I'm in. I like the idea.
I like the story. So I asked him in, it's got to be a reboot, right?
Speaker 2 There's no way that this is an original concept that just made it to 2025.
Speaker 7 The Running Man.
Speaker 6 Is it a remake or is it a sequel?
Speaker 7
It's a remake. It's a remake because the original, which came out in 1990, 1990, I want to say, was massive.
It's the type of action movie that, yeah, man, people, the global audience love.
Speaker 7 It's right behind you. I want you to turn around.
Speaker 2 Ah, yes. I'm the Running Man.
Speaker 2 Wow.
Speaker 2 Tony, no matter what. Wow.
Speaker 7 However good or bad the new one is going to be,
Speaker 7 you have to watch.
Speaker 2
You're telling me OG Running Man was goaded. Goaded.
Wow.
Speaker 7
Goaded. And in it, so it's a TV show.
It's kind of prescient in a way because it's like a reality show.
Speaker 7 before reality shows are big reality show and people are like we can either sentence you to death or you can star on the running man so is he a criminal he's framed of course he's framed of course and they give him the choice do you want
Speaker 7 execution or you can play the game so he decides to play the game but he's the best contestant ever at the running man
Speaker 7 And the guy who's the executive producer of the show is like, nah, nah,
Speaker 7 we can't have this get messed up. So he starts cheating and increasing the levels of difficulty.
Speaker 2 Excellent movie. 1987.
Speaker 7 1987 is running, man.
Speaker 2 Wow. Richard Dawson was the
Speaker 2 game show host.
Speaker 2 Really stretched his chops hair.
Speaker 7 Well, I thought he, you know what? Richard Dawson was ass off because he wasn't just a game show host, which is what he does in real life. He was a villain.
Speaker 2 He also had the only comeback to I'll be back that I've ever seen in a Schwarzenegger movie. He said, only in a rerun.
Speaker 2
Got his ass. That's a good one.
Oh.
Speaker 2 Oh, man. You're saying I got to watch the OG.
Speaker 7
I think you should. I think you should.
Maybe after you watch the new one, maybe before. I don't know.
But I know you have to watch it at some point because it really is a fun movie, man.
Speaker 7 It's back when action movies were action movies.
Speaker 2 Jim Brown was in there.
Speaker 7
Yep. Jim Brown was one of the guys.
I think it looks cool.
Speaker 6 Man, you never seen Running Man?
Speaker 2 Shit, you've seen Running Man?
Speaker 6 Yeah, I've seen Run Man. Not the new one.
Speaker 2
You're not allowed to do that. Why? I've seen Rambo.
After yesterday's hijinks. Whatever.
Speaker 6 I've never seen Rambo. Who cares?
Speaker 2 And we discovered something this morning.
Speaker 7 What's that?
Speaker 2
I'm embarrassed to say it. I'm very.
Don't even say it. Don't be embarrassed.
Don't even say it. It's embarrassing.
Zaz doesn't know about that 007.
Speaker 6 It's crazy, man. I've never seen a single James Bond movie.
Speaker 2 It's a suckle move.
Speaker 6 What did I tell you about calling me a sucker?
Speaker 2 I already told you.
Speaker 6 I've never seen a single James Bond movie.
Speaker 1 It doesn't even matter the actor.
Speaker 6
And here's the thing, though, mean. Here's the thing.
I know I would like them. So it's not like I haven't seen them because I don't think it's...
Speaker 7 I know I would like it quantum of solace oh those daniel craig jeans like i don't really care about the ones before the daniel craig ones fire movies look awesome never seen them a movie called quantum of solace i don't know what it means i know it's the coolest name of a movie i've ever heard in my life quantum of solace seen that quantum of solace oh of course i've seen it casino royale yeah the movies look good i never seen it
Speaker 2 so You never played Goldeneye? Yeah, man. I never had.
Speaker 6
I don't know if I never played. I never had it.
I never owned it.
Speaker 2
You don't know about that GoldenEye? Nah. That's the only thing that you need from the 007.
I don't know about Golden T.
Speaker 2
No, Golden T is. I don't even know what that is.
That was a big dog pimp attack.
Speaker 2 Golden T is an arcade game where you have to get the ball, but sometimes the ball isn't properly
Speaker 2 lubricated.
Speaker 2 As Braun Strowman would call it. Goldeneye was the greatest video game of all time.
Speaker 7 Spectre?
Speaker 6 Yeah, you can keep naming all the game.
Speaker 6 I already told you I've never seen them.
Speaker 2 You don't know about that slappers only?
Speaker 6 That's not a real name.
Speaker 2
No, no, no. It's a game mode.
You can go big head mode.
Speaker 2 What was the best stage? Complex? Where you go slappers only, you climb through the vents, and you don't have to
Speaker 2
have a gun. So, the way to win the game in the multiplayer, it's like elimination.
It's kind of like the running man. You go up and you just
Speaker 6 all right. Sorry, I wouldn't spend all my time on VLAs.
Speaker 2
I was hooking up with girls. In 1997, you were watching wrestling.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 Nobody ducked girls.
Speaker 2 You weren't hooking up with girls.
Speaker 7 Watching wrestling is movie.
Speaker 2 Come on. No one believes that.
Speaker 7
Zaz. In 97, there's a movie called Tomorrow Never Dies.
Now, not only is is that.
Speaker 7 Not only is that title cool as hell, Tomorrow Never Dies, but the premise of the movie in 1997 was there's a billionaire who controls and owns newspapers all over the world.
Speaker 7 So then he just starts creating fake news to create conflict. to fuel his business.
Speaker 6 That's awfully foreshadowing. That's right.
Speaker 7
In 97. Wow.
1997. You got to watch that Bond, man.
Speaker 6 Okay, so like, what
Speaker 6 do I do?
Speaker 6 In time, or do I just watch the Daniel Craig?
Speaker 2 What do I do? Oof.
Speaker 2 They're different worlds, basically, right? You don't have to have
Speaker 6 to know that.
Speaker 2
Of course, there's eight different James Bonds. No, but it's a singular universe.
Yeah. Everything that happens is...
Is the 007?
Speaker 2
There's a 007, and it's just, you know, they film these movies in different time periods, so... Bond has different tech.
You have to suspend that kind of disbelief.
Speaker 6
Do I have to... Okay, so let's say I'm just going to watch the Daniel Craig ones.
Do I have to start from the beginning? Like,
Speaker 6 if I didn't see the one before, I'm going to be screwed?
Speaker 7 I think the best thing to do is you pick an actor, a James Bond actor, and then you start from his first movie and go on.
Speaker 7
So, in other words, the Pierce Brosnan ones have no bearing on the Daniel Craig ones. But don't start the Daniel Craig one with like Casino Royale or whatever.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 You want to start with the first, actually Casino Royale was the first person. You don't want to start with like Skyfall or whatever.
Speaker 7 You start with Casino Royale, then Quantum of Solids, then Skyfall, Spectre, and finally,
Speaker 7 no time to die.
Speaker 7 My man said, hey, man, you got to die right now.
Speaker 2
Gosh, I ain't got time. No time.
Let me check in my Omega.
Speaker 2 No time.
Speaker 7
And also, product placement. Wow.
Yeah, beautiful. They mastered product placement.
You want to see that new Audi? Yeah. You watched that.
Speaker 2 You know about that Aston Martin? That new Audi.
Speaker 6 I used to drive an Audi.
Speaker 2 Whatever, I'm just saying. Here,
Speaker 2 you don't know about that Octopussy?
Speaker 6 I know about Octopussy. If we're talking about the same one, I don't know if we are.
Speaker 2
I don't know. I mean, you were probably in high school when GoldenEye came out on N64.
It's a moment in time.
Speaker 6 I was definitely not in high school. How old do you think I am?
Speaker 7
Dude, I was in college. I don't know.
I was in college, and that's all we played.
Speaker 2 You dress like you're 22.
Speaker 1 There you go.
Speaker 6 See, I'm young.
Speaker 2 But you are the living embodiment of the Steve Buscemi, what's up, fellow kids, type of
Speaker 2 type of energy.
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Speaker 2 D-L-B.
Speaker 2 Don Lebatard.
Speaker 6 I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now your life depends on it, go to Santa Fe University and just
Speaker 6 take a picture.
Speaker 5 Stugats.
Speaker 6 I would die.
Speaker 5 I don't know where it is. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Speaker 7 Speaking of video games,
Speaker 7 Donovan Mitchell last night had a video game type match that scored 46 points.
Speaker 6 Derricks Garland finally.
Speaker 7
Oh, yeah. Shout out to Derrick's Garland.
Yeah, there you go. But here's the real transition.
He credited his 46-point outburst to a kid that was talking trash to him on 2K the night before.
Speaker 7 And he was like, all right, you know what? I'm going to show you. Because the kid said, you're washed.
Speaker 2
Man, wow. Those kids on those games, they can get your blood boiling.
They're nasty.
Speaker 2
I don't even open the portal anymore. I'm just everything on mute.
No headsets. Don't try to talk to me.
Speaker 7 Am I the only one who's like, I don't want Donovan Mitchell playing 2K under his own name? If you want to be...
Speaker 2 You need the burner?
Speaker 7 Yeah.
Speaker 7 Yeah, man. If you have Jack Spade, all right, that's cool.
Speaker 2 But I don't want... I love Jack Spade.
Speaker 2 Spider Mitchell, 45.
Speaker 7
Yeah, come on, man. And now it's like you're getting into it with kids online.
And yeah, he scored 46 and haha. But But it's just like, what if he had a bag in?
Speaker 7
First of all, he wouldn't tell us, but that could be going around. Like, I knew it.
I told him he was washed.
Speaker 6
Like, I don't know. Right.
How many times did the kid tell me he was washed and he had a stinker the next game? We didn't know about it.
Speaker 2
Exactly. Is that an actual conversation? I don't know.
I'm just jumping back in here on the sport. Donovan Mitchell seems like he's in his prime.
Speaker 7 He is, but kids are kids. If you're 12 years old.
Speaker 2 So it sees on an insecurity. He's probably asking himself, Do I still got it?
Speaker 2 Pretty good last year.
Speaker 7
He said, here's a quote: This kid pissed me off today. I'm sorry, it wasn't even the night before.
This kid pissed me off today. I was playing 2K.
I told him, too, I was like, just wait. Just wait.
Speaker 7
And he just called me washed up. He called me a bunch of things, but I love it.
He's saying he ain't seen a highlight from me in a minute. And I just told him, all right, we'll see.
Speaker 7
This game was for that kid or grown man. Whoever that was, I appreciate you.
I told him I would give him a shout out, too.
Speaker 6 He may have got catfish.
Speaker 2
We need to find that guy or that kid, whoever it is. Oh, yeah.
Find him.
Speaker 7 Allison, can we get the kid?
Speaker 2
Find the kid that called him washed. Mitchell washed, but think about that.
You're the kid, and then you see Spider Mitchell 45 or whatever his username is.
Speaker 2 Yeah, and you're like, there's no way, right?
Speaker 6 They can't. Yeah, how do you get them to prove it?
Speaker 2 Like, yo, are you talking about it?
Speaker 7 The voice, I guess, if you, if you're, if you're chatting on the voice, you hear the voice.
Speaker 2 There's no way this was a kid. That kid looks like Stavi, baby.
Speaker 2 Not a kid.
Speaker 7 He was good in the new movie, right? You went and saw that movie with
Speaker 2 him.
Speaker 6 He's coming down here.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I keep getting ads for that.
Speaker 2 Targeted.
Speaker 2
I guess. I'll ask.
That's the algorithm. Yeah.
What's yours? Boobs, man. Oh, yeah.
It's a good algorithm. Yeah, not mine.
Speaker 2
But yes, Avi was incredible in that movie. Not a large cast.
He really stuck out because there were like five people in the movie. But yeah, he was great.
That's a great.
Speaker 2 Emma Stone's just going to do this thing where every year she's like, I'm going to make a movie that'll get me in this conversation. Make a movie that's really weird.
Speaker 2
I'm gonna make this, like, yeah, that everyone comes away with that performance was incredible. That's just Emma.
Isn't it amazing? Like,
Speaker 7 do you guys have that same feeling?
Speaker 2 She's a little
Speaker 7
Kawhi Leonard Jimmy Butler-ish, where it's like, the Starbucks are like, oh, yeah, it's a fun, doing fun little kid movie. Easy, yeah.
And then all of a sudden, it's like,
Speaker 7 yo, you're one of the best actors in the game. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 Now she might play herself in a Jordan territory where there's Jordan MVP fatigue.
Speaker 7 Oh, no way. No fatigue.
Speaker 2
I thought this performance was better than Poor Things. I love this movie.
That movie looks so weird. Poor Things? Poor Things.
Poor Things was. I didn't really like it.
Speaker 2 You would think that it would be made for someone like me, but nah, I wasn't.
Speaker 2
I understand why she won for her performance. It was, you know, she was very committed, doing crazy things in that.
It's a lot like your algo. But
Speaker 2 this one's probably closer to Tony's algo in terms of the subject matter that they tackle. What's that supposed to mean? It's a
Speaker 2 post-truth type of film.
Speaker 7 That's your gimmick.
Speaker 2
Yeah. I don't know what's going on there.
I don't know what that's supposed to be. The whole movie is based on
Speaker 2 these two guys
Speaker 2
kidnap this CEO who they are convinced. Begonia.
Yeah. Who they are convinced is an alien.
Why is it called Begonia?
Speaker 7 That's her name, right?
Speaker 2
I'm not exactly sure why it's called Begonia. Okay.
Do they say the word begonia in the movie?
Speaker 7 Does anyone go, ah, he said it? He said it.
Speaker 2 I didn't know. Is begonia even a word? What does it mean?
Speaker 2
It's like a plant. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 7 My begonias.
Speaker 2
So it's not like the plant that she's from or anything. My begunias.
Oh, man.
Speaker 2 Begonia sounds good.
Speaker 7 I think begonia is a word, right?
Speaker 2 Yeah, there's a lot of bees.
Speaker 7
What's a begonia? Here we go, Google. What's a begonia? A begonia is a genus of perennial flowering plants with more than 2,000 species.
Out of boy.
Speaker 7 Native to moist, tropical, and subtropical climates.
Speaker 2
Shout out to us. I don't get the reference.
Really? Maybe I have to watch it again. I didn't really see a lot of plants in that film.
Speaker 6 Does it happen to you a lot that you see a movie, you don't understand it?
Speaker 2 I don't understand the title.
Speaker 7 What was the last time that happened to you?
Speaker 6 Tenet.
Speaker 2 No one knows what that means. Stupidest movie.
Speaker 7 That is the dumbest movie ever.
Speaker 7 I watched that. I remember Tenet, if you guys remember, came out in the middle of the pandemic, like the middle of the pandemic.
Speaker 2 I risked my life for that.
Speaker 7 In theaters, and I said, this is the movie.
Speaker 7
You guys remember me. I grew my hair.
I wouldn't go to the barber. I wouldn't go out.
I wouldn't do anything other than go get groceries. That's it.
I was living life like it was Mad Max.
Speaker 7 But I said, the one thing I will risk my life for is a Christopher Nolan movie with John David Washington
Speaker 7
on there. I have never been more.
To this day,
Speaker 7 I still don't understand what the f ⁇ that movie was about.
Speaker 6 Neither is Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 7 I don't know. It's the worst movie.
Speaker 6 Looked cool as hell on the trailer.
Speaker 7
It does look cool. It did.
It looked cool.
Speaker 7 He definitely nailed the looking cool part.
Speaker 2 Let's go back in the gun.
Speaker 7 Stop it.
Speaker 7 But they're still talking forward. Like, if we're moving backward we're not
Speaker 2 the kid rober pattinson who cares gives a this is bad and he got the leads totally mixed up oh you think pattinson oh john washington was done after that yeah
Speaker 2 it was uh a beyond his depth perhaps i don't think he had that much range yeah i i i don't i don't i he never was like it was a great performance in black clansmen right but it was the subject matter like i think a lot of people could have played that role and if you watched uh ballers you're like ah
Speaker 2 this guy's got his limits.
Speaker 7 That was my problem. I'm watching Tenna, and I'm like, that's Ricky Jarrett.
Speaker 2 That is Ricky Jarrett.
Speaker 7 I can't see anything past Ricky Jarrett.
Speaker 2
Well, he stole it in five movies after that. And they all flopped.
Yeah. Holly Lansman didn't flop.
No, no, no. After that.
After that. Hollywood.
The box office has told you. What were they?
Speaker 2 Don't make him your leading man.
Speaker 6 Is that one movie where he's trying to find the kid who is the key to like life?
Speaker 2
The creator? It was a huge flop. Malcolm and Marie Beckett, Amsterdam, the creator, and the piano lesson.
I never even heard that. Malcolm and Marie movies.
Speaker 7 It was a good one. The budget sucked.
Speaker 7 No, it was like, it was a, it was an artsy movie. Amsterdam was a huge flop, but it had a lot of people in it.
Speaker 2
That wasn't him. He was in the lead, though.
No, no, no. That was a huge ensemble.
That was just a big-time flop. Tenant, not a big movie.
Folks, the leaves are turning.
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