Hour 2: Keyon Dooling? (feat. Amin Elhassan)

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Speaker 2 Hey, Chris here.

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Speaker 1 Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

Speaker 7 Don't place parlays on multiple long shots.

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Speaker 17 This is the Don Levatar Show with the Stu Gats Podcast.

Speaker 17 Hello,

Speaker 18 Greg Cody.

Speaker 19 Your son's wondering if you can use a micro when you speak. But you say no,

Speaker 18 that kind of thing.

Speaker 19 The same way that you don't have a new back in my day, this week

Speaker 18 Hello

Speaker 19 What are you saying

Speaker 19 You're plugging your new show of Greg Cody's show with Greg Cody

Speaker 20 when you were younger

Speaker 18 and a teen

Speaker 19 Ethel Merman took the world by storm just like the he Hawthree All of your says

Speaker 12 Run through

Speaker 18 us

Speaker 12 like gym fixed reminders

Speaker 11 Dolphins are alive

Speaker 11 Diana say they're right

Speaker 11 So Dad says he's sorry forever doubting your fire

Speaker 11 So you can have the grin of

Speaker 18 a a donkey eating briars.

Speaker 23 It's a mule.

Speaker 3 It's a mule. It's a mule.

Speaker 21 It's a mule eating.

Speaker 24 It's the same according to Greg.

Speaker 25 No, there's a difference.

Speaker 23 No, it is a difference.

Speaker 14 A mule, a donkey is a dumber animal by virtue of it being two syllables. The mule is the one eating briars.
Chris, can you get for me, please, just the two dueling sounds of

Speaker 21 your father?

Speaker 18 Well,

Speaker 14 with Rose's honk from being pepper sprayed.

Speaker 6 Such a great sound.

Speaker 14 Which one, if we had a tournament of sounds, which would win? Because Rose being pepper sprayed, like that's not the sound you'd expect with that.

Speaker 14 Wasn't that at the Ohio State game? Isn't that where she was? It was on the field. Is that Rose being pepper sprayed or being attacked by a giant bird of prey?

Speaker 26 Just or is that the bird of prey?

Speaker 14 Is that the bird of prey excavating Rose's orbital bone?

Speaker 25 That's an attacking bird, is it not?

Speaker 28 I need your support.

Speaker 14 Wait, how'd that sneak in there?

Speaker 14 So I have in front of me before we get to Amemes weekend observations. By the way, the Carolina Panthers scored nine last night.
The Florida Panthers scored eight. No time for them to talk about it.

Speaker 7 That concludes Real or Fake Fake Podcast.

Speaker 14 I'll get back to it. I've got one more day before the holidays.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but now it's an uneven number.

Speaker 14 Let's go through legend or not a legend with Jonathan's.

Speaker 14 It's my new favorite game right now.

Speaker 29 You're good at this.

Speaker 14 You're good at this. Okay.

Speaker 14 Curtis Stevenson. No.

Speaker 6 The captain held down middays. I don't know about that.
Okay.

Speaker 14 Jeff DeForest.

Speaker 26 Yes.

Speaker 23 The time?

Speaker 14 Sid Rosenberg.

Speaker 14 No.

Speaker 16 It's not a South Florida legend.

Speaker 3 The great Mike Barnacle.

Speaker 14 Ed Kaplan.

Speaker 30 Yes.

Speaker 19 Easy.

Speaker 14 Easy, Eddie K.

Speaker 14 Deuces Rogers.

Speaker 12 Wow.

Speaker 15 Tough one? No.

Speaker 31 Might be a Philadelphia legend.

Speaker 16 Not tough. Just didn't expect to hear the name.

Speaker 32 Deuce is wild.

Speaker 14 Brendan Tobin.

Speaker 21 yes hey you're a little close to this your voice went high up there yeah what happened there i like him i had to think about it for a second but i'm gonna go yes what happened there

Speaker 1 we're approaching year 20 for brendan i had to think about it is all he's my favorite local guy right now he's also the best mine's a big dog i mean i i have a soft spot in my heart for the big dog listen to him every morning every morning it just works out my schedule

Speaker 1 one of my favorite things though on the drive home is texting leroy horde because he'll read anything i text him on air so i just like to play the little game of can he will he read this on air?

Speaker 1 Sometimes he doesn't even reference my name. He'll just like react to my text.
It's great.

Speaker 16 Like as if you're texting the shit.

Speaker 21 Right.

Speaker 21 Leroy Horde.

Speaker 16 I'm going, yes. Been on the air long enough.

Speaker 12 No, it's been there long enough.

Speaker 22 Hello.

Speaker 22 Hesitation. Hello.

Speaker 14 I don't know what happened there. There was a lot of math being done there.
A lot of math being done in his air.

Speaker 16 It's been there a long time.

Speaker 16 Roads bull MVP.

Speaker 21 Rhodes Bull MVP.

Speaker 14 That sounded like you were right on the edge. Phil Shane.
No.

Speaker 3 Ooh. Whoa.

Speaker 21 Whatever.

Speaker 7 He is a soccer legend in the States, but not a Miami.

Speaker 14 Chris Whittingham.

Speaker 9 Ooh, that's I think the same applies.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I think I'm going no-two.

Speaker 31 Soccer legend.

Speaker 17 Yeah, correct. Correct.

Speaker 7 Not a Miami sports legend. Yeah.

Speaker 26 If he would have put in a

Speaker 26 time if he put in more time here, but all I know about him is he's a quitter.

Speaker 21 Whoa. Quitty.
Hey.

Speaker 12 Quitty.

Speaker 12 Whoa.

Speaker 16 He left Afternoon Drive on 79 tickets as well.

Speaker 1 He's a quitter. Mainly just an odd dude.

Speaker 16 Mainly.

Speaker 11 Job jumper.

Speaker 12 Wait a minute.

Speaker 14 Wait, that descended.

Speaker 4 An important note. When talking witty, you got to just bring it into the conversation.

Speaker 27 He is a strange bird.

Speaker 21 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 21 Alarm clock.

Speaker 14 I'm not just. I'm not.

Speaker 33 Alarm clock is the stove? Yeah.

Speaker 31 Who can forget that?

Speaker 34 He swallowed every piece of gum he ever had.

Speaker 35 It's crazy.

Speaker 34 He never has spit out gum. He's like, yeah, I don't spit it out.

Speaker 21 I swallow it.

Speaker 29 And I'm like, oh, that's gross.

Speaker 16 Got confused. That's why it's a no.

Speaker 14 Wait a minute. Yeah.
No, yeah.

Speaker 6 It never had a Snickers bar until like two years ago.

Speaker 1 We did that on air.

Speaker 14 That

Speaker 14 was while a short-lived era, I believe the witty era

Speaker 14 means you disrespect him as a nominee for this category. I believe that in South Florida history, if you're executive producing this show and you're giving it all your weirdnesses, he had a

Speaker 14 Sandy Koufax run through the industry that's not on not on

Speaker 6 Chris has already been longer than Witty was for EP.

Speaker 7 More tenure.

Speaker 16 Legend is a really strong word.

Speaker 1 Am I a legend locally?

Speaker 6 I need you to ask it.

Speaker 6 Can't ask himself.

Speaker 14 Is Chris Cody a legend?

Speaker 35 Yes. Wow.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 35 I don't even believe that.

Speaker 31 I think so, because he got fired from his.

Speaker 3 That's his greatest achievement.

Speaker 31 Getting fired. It's crazy.

Speaker 14 Is Roy Bellamy a legend?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 14 Is Jeremy Tashay a legend? Not yet.

Speaker 8 He's got two Emmys. Nope.

Speaker 21 Okay. Not long enough.
Remember, though,

Speaker 35 you think your family...

Speaker 15 If he didn't do that Eskimo thing to you, which was out of line.

Speaker 21 I agree.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I'm sorry for that.

Speaker 16 Okay, I'll think about your bias.

Speaker 14 Jimmy Cephalo.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 16 I think he sucks, but the answer is yes.

Speaker 26 Yeah, that's why he's putting his white hat on the hat rack, right?

Speaker 16 I got to take my own personal bias out. I think he sucks, but the answer is yes.

Speaker 16 That's because I have credibility.

Speaker 8 Integrity.

Speaker 16 But he's a really bad play-by-play guy.

Speaker 28 Just like really bad.

Speaker 32 I've heard that about him.

Speaker 14 I think what you guys did was mean here to Trevor Murray and Eric Reed, the other one. What? The other one?

Speaker 1 The Reid. You gotta have some yeses and no's.

Speaker 22 What?

Speaker 14 I think Eric Reed, the other one, was mean.

Speaker 21 I don't think that was something.

Speaker 14 Oh, wait a minute. The big O? Did I say the Big O? Did I ask him about the Big O?

Speaker 21 No, you didn't ask me. It's a big O?

Speaker 16 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Yes, it's a no?

Speaker 16 No, yes, yes, he's a legend.

Speaker 9 No, yes, yes, no.

Speaker 16 A big O is definitely a Saflar legend, of course.

Speaker 32 Oh, it is at the senior bowl without him.

Speaker 14 Omar Kelly?

Speaker 16 No.

Speaker 8 That guy's a douche.

Speaker 6 I already said no.

Speaker 14 Armando Salghero?

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 16 He's a legend. He is?

Speaker 3 South Florida legend.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is not just radio. This is just South Florida.

Speaker 21 Well, wait a minute. I wasn't just doing it.
Wait a minute.

Speaker 6 Deuces Rogers.

Speaker 14 I thought, who gets the television category? Because you got Jim Berry, you got Steve Shapiro.

Speaker 26 Steve Shapiro's also.

Speaker 21 How many?

Speaker 14 But who are the legends? Is Drew Rosenhaus now a legend?

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Yeah, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 30 Of course.

Speaker 23 Who else is a me?

Speaker 21 Kimbo Camper.

Speaker 3 Oh, he's got

Speaker 14 Kim Bo Camper. Once you put your name on a restaurant in the Fort Lauderdale airport, you are Kimbo Camper forever, living off those linebacker gnarled fingers for 50 years.

Speaker 29 A lot of them carry forearms.

Speaker 3 Shit, that burger, though.

Speaker 1 A lot of them are closing down.

Speaker 8 Is Will Manso a legend? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I agree.

Speaker 14 A lot of them are closing down.

Speaker 1 The one by my house closed. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Jorge Sedano.

Speaker 30 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 7 He's been in L.A.

Speaker 8 longer than he's been in Miami.

Speaker 3 KSM.

Speaker 16 You can be a legend in two different places.

Speaker 34 Is he an L.A. legend?

Speaker 6 I don't know. I don't live in L.A.
Don't ask me yourself. Anita Marks.

Speaker 14 No.

Speaker 14 Joy Taylor.

Speaker 30 Yes, of course.

Speaker 16 Major impact.

Speaker 9 That's my homegirl.

Speaker 14 I can't believe you took Frito out.

Speaker 7 I have four more podcasts if you'd like to do that.

Speaker 14 Let's do it. Okay.

Speaker 14 I'm sorry I cut you off.

Speaker 32 I'm excited about this, Liz.

Speaker 35 Come on, legend.

Speaker 7 Come on, legend.

Speaker 8 Don't let me down after this.

Speaker 16 Okay, This is why you're a legend, Chris.

Speaker 22 All right.

Speaker 7 Dan, for the record, what would your answer have been on Wingmen featuring Matthew and Brady Kachuk?

Speaker 14 I would have said that's not a podcast.

Speaker 15 Okay. Would have been wrong.

Speaker 7 Factor back with William Floyd.

Speaker 25 I don't know who that is.

Speaker 21 You don't know who William Floyd is.

Speaker 27 I don't know that fool.

Speaker 31 William Floyd is one of the greatest fullbacks ever.

Speaker 1 That implies it's real.

Speaker 16 I'm going not real.

Speaker 14 I would have heard it. No, but no, but he's old and he wasn't that interesting.

Speaker 21 He covers FSU, still. It wasn't that interesting.
He's got plenty of opinions.

Speaker 14 He's got, he's, you don't remember him as an FSU running back and a San Francisco 49ers. Talking to me, Carolina.
You don't have any idea who we're talking about.

Speaker 25 Factor back.

Speaker 14 That is not a podcast. That doesn't exist.

Speaker 13 No. I'm checking my notes.

Speaker 14 He wasn't interesting as a player. I'm not even sure.
He wasn't much of a talker. You can't remember.

Speaker 24 He's in the media.

Speaker 26 Covers FSU.

Speaker 7 That's a cult, by the way. It's a fake podcast.

Speaker 11 Straight to Cam with Cameron Brink.

Speaker 31 Real or fake?

Speaker 7 Dan, you go first.

Speaker 14 I'm going to guess that that's real.

Speaker 16 I mean, she definitely has a podcast, but I don't think that's the name. But your history here has not been, yes, they have a podcast, but you fake the name.

Speaker 9 I've done that before. You have?

Speaker 14 Yeah, but I would assume that she's good in the media space and that she's got her own properties. So, yeah, I would assume that she, and I would assume that it's popular, no?

Speaker 25 Yeah, you know what? I'm going to go, yes.

Speaker 11 It is real.

Speaker 14 Blue line with chris pronger you know when you guys like give a real breakdown of this it's not as fun just say real or fake podcast okay so here's the thing though mike look look i don't want to show off that i can properly guess whether it's a podcast i haven't listened to it i do he played for the blues that right there is just a funny name no but that's the only reason you that is not a podcast chris pronger

Speaker 14 the defenseman it's a funny name he's a funny physical specimen he wasn't he wasn't somebody that i particularly enjoyed talking about, and I don't think he'd decide to get into the entertainment industry.

Speaker 14 I'm going no.

Speaker 31 You spoke to Chris Pronger?

Speaker 21 I'm going to tell you. And you didn't tell us.

Speaker 16 He specifically didn't enjoy Chris Pronger talking.

Speaker 26 That's what he's saying.

Speaker 31 Chris Pronger does media.

Speaker 14 I thought as an interview, he wasn't. That was a particularly good interview.

Speaker 7 He covers the game for ESPN.

Speaker 14 I'm guessing, no, that that's not a podcast.

Speaker 26 Did you do one of those when you spoke to Chris Perrer? Did I ruin it?

Speaker 4 Chris is. Whenever you're done with a podcast, when an interview, if it's going poorly, it's just like, Chris Pringer.

Speaker 3 All right, thank you for joining us, Chris.

Speaker 15 Blue line with Chris Pronger is a fake one.

Speaker 9 All right, here we go.

Speaker 7 The crossover with Keon Dueling.

Speaker 35 Yes.

Speaker 14 No.

Speaker 7 No, I don't think that that's a podcast.

Speaker 36 The answer is yes.

Speaker 15 Keon Dueling? Tony, you want to tell it?

Speaker 24 KD.

Speaker 16 Me and KD.

Speaker 26 Yeah, I think Tony came across Tony's podcast with Keon Dueling called Tony.

Speaker 34 Me and Keon Dueling co-host that show, The Crossover.

Speaker 25 Out every Monday and Thursday. Keon Dueling.

Speaker 7 It's a real podcast with 10-day Tony and Keon dueling.

Speaker 16 Dan said it with the tone of something he would never listen to.

Speaker 15 Ever.

Speaker 22 That's fine.

Speaker 24 And clearly, he hasn't.

Speaker 31 It wasn't just him. It was like, who else would listen to that?

Speaker 11 That has to be fake.

Speaker 7 And thank God for the setup and us being resolute in playing this game because we have just given Dan a great shame.

Speaker 25 You have.

Speaker 27 Dan's better than me.

Speaker 14 Well, so yes.

Speaker 4 Do you want to apologize to Tony?

Speaker 21 Not yet. I do not support him.

Speaker 34 You don't have to apologize. It's fine.

Speaker 14 I don't think any of you.

Speaker 34 sucker

Speaker 7 i almost threw a pen right at chris cody's neck when he's i'm an idiot as soon as he said it i'm like tony isn't that yours

Speaker 1 i'm like chris cody mother and he stopped in dan's defense if he had said the crossover with keon don't dueling and tony then you would have probably picked up on it Yeah, but I'm trying to trick him.

Speaker 23 Who has top billing?

Speaker 14 So the bit failed because I was getting too many right about Chris Pronger, okay? But it it was

Speaker 14 so, but then, so, right.

Speaker 14 So, in order to dunk on me at the end, the perfect way to do that so that I would fall trap in a way that would allow me to be exposed more than your dad was yesterday, is for me to fall in the hole of, oh, I didn't realize that Tony had a podcast with Keon Dueling.

Speaker 14 I'm not going to be able to take that back.

Speaker 14 That just happened.

Speaker 14 I will say, in my meager defense, I hadn't heard of it.

Speaker 1 I'd seen of it.

Speaker 14 Keon Dueling is an excellent talker and always has been.

Speaker 8 You had heard of Chris Pronger.

Speaker 15 Kicksaving abuse.

Speaker 14 Well, I mean, but I'm not saying anything that's wrong there.

Speaker 14 Amin.

Speaker 34 It's all lip side. Amine was actually one of our first Maiden Voyage guests on the crossover.

Speaker 31 I saw that. I support you.

Speaker 14 How many episodes have there been that I've missed?

Speaker 34 We started the NBA season with them, too.

Speaker 25 I was on one, Dan. I can't believe you didn't watch.

Speaker 24 You guys already had Jeremy on.

Speaker 15 Talking Heat. Good start for the Heat.

Speaker 4 I'm an NBA reporter.

Speaker 33 That was so insulting the way Chris did that.

Speaker 14 Chris is a legend and Jeremy's not by your proclamation. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Can we get back to that too?

Speaker 14 How close is Amin to being a South Florida legend?

Speaker 16 Two-time Emmy wins.

Speaker 14 No, Amin's not a South Florida.

Speaker 16 He's the mayor of Heat Island. No, I understand, but I don't think people equate Amin to Miami.

Speaker 29 Ooh, I don't know.

Speaker 21 He used to work for the Cleveland.

Speaker 22 You mean, am I wrong about that?

Speaker 28 You're wrong about that because everywhere I go, people think I live in Miami.

Speaker 28 They think I'm caping for the Miami Heat. They think I'm all in the tank tank for the city of Miami and South Florida.
And I'm like, I don't live there.

Speaker 7 He's in the tank for Kendall Flannies.

Speaker 28 Boy, let me tell you something. A zipline from the top of the Elser straight to Kendall.

Speaker 28 Get it done.

Speaker 14 John Moynihan.

Speaker 14 No.

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Speaker 14 Let's do Amin's weekend observations.

Speaker 26 It is time for

Speaker 16 to share his game notes.

Speaker 17 No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy.

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Speaker 28 Ben

Speaker 28 had a rough weekend.

Speaker 28 This week's weekend observations

Speaker 28 will be brief.

Speaker 28 Georgia Tech lost to Pitt.

Speaker 28 It's a dumb sport anyway. Who cares?

Speaker 28 College basketball season's here.

Speaker 14 I thought you were going to rally. That pick six broke your heart.

Speaker 28 I thought they were going to rally too. I was waiting.
I had the texts all written. And then maybe not so much.

Speaker 28 Chris Paul's retiring.

Speaker 28 Kind of wish Dugas is here.

Speaker 28 Right? Like, that's the patron saint of Chris Paul shit talk.

Speaker 28 Let's see what else we got.

Speaker 28 Oh,

Speaker 28 I guess hell has descended on New Mexico.

Speaker 28 Zarbra's got another job.

Speaker 21 We're already at hell. Oh, no.
It's at him.

Speaker 14 That's all he's got for weekends.

Speaker 28 Other weekend observations.

Speaker 6 He mailed it in.

Speaker 7 Thanksgiving week.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 16 I mean, is Chris Paul gonna ask for a trade like mid-season if this is his final year where he can try and latch on to a champion?

Speaker 28 to do what to be to get dmp cds on in denver i mean what the guy's not playing for the clippers

Speaker 14 that i think that's like the the score sign that it's over he okay the expiration date on the human body uh he he was great five years uh past any reason to be great for five years and this is the end of his career and it doesn't end on his terms necessarily he's quitting because he's done he's he's washed i i don't know what his terms would be.

Speaker 28 I think his terms would be if I can still play, but

Speaker 28 he's not clearly not capable of playing. I was talking about this over the weekend with Zach Harper on NBA Radio and it's like people don't remember Chris Paul before the knee injury.

Speaker 28 He had a knee injury early in his career. Before that, he was quick.
He was bouncy. He was athletic.
He dunked on Dwight Howard once. I don't think people would ever put those two things together.

Speaker 28 Chris Paul dunking and then Dwight Howard actually trying to stop that dunk. That was all in the same play and it happened.
He had

Speaker 28 an injury and then he came back and he had to reimagine himself as this kind of groundbound point guard and turned into one of the best point guards in NBA history playing that way.

Speaker 14 How fair is it for me to say that Chris Paul, 20-year career, amazing by any standard, obvious clear Hall of Famer, maybe the best ever at his position in the discussion.

Speaker 22 Not the best.

Speaker 28 Not maybe the best ever. All right.
Among the best ever. Among the best ever.

Speaker 14 Among the best ever at his position.

Speaker 14 But also, how high on the list of his word associations is going to be that he did the thing all the time that was present last night in the Carolina 49ers game where he is known as somebody who will hit you in the junk repeatedly, has an assortment of incidents.

Speaker 14 How high is it on his resume? He is, as Tony said, a honker.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he's a habitual nut tapper. I don't know if you remember.

Speaker 28 Dan, years and years and years ago, me, you, and Tom Habestro did a video that never saw the light of day because Disney got too scared because we were talking about nut taps.

Speaker 28 It was the entire video was just the greatest hits. Release the files of Chris Paul hitting somebody in the junk.

Speaker 28 And they just would not air it. They wouldn't even air it digitally.
That was how, I guess, offensive we were.

Speaker 28 But I think given the events of like, oh, I don't know, the past eight years or so, it would air today.

Speaker 14 Well, it ended with me pointing out that Tom Haberstro's head looked like a human testicle more than anybody in

Speaker 14 the media. I do remember that, but I thought that aired somewhere.
But how high on the list does this go? Like, Chris Paul, that's an amazing achievement as a career.

Speaker 14 We talk so much about spoiled legacies. I'm dead serious when I ask you, how much does he soil his legacy with the fact that that's his reputation?

Speaker 28 Well, that part I don't think soils his legacy. His legacy is soiled, I think, more by...

Speaker 28 high-profile shortcomings in the playoffs. I think those are the things.
Obviously, he's been on teams that blew blew 3-1 leads. He's been on a team that blew a 2-0 lead in the finals.

Speaker 28 And so he's got a lot of those on his resume.

Speaker 28 The internet is very strong in creating reputations that are unfair. Chris Paul being unclutched is one of them.
The nut tapping, I think we've kind of gotten away from it.

Speaker 28 But if his career had ended like three years ago,

Speaker 28 I think it would still be top of mind. I don't know how many people associate nut tapping with Chris Paul.
Are you laughing on Chris Paul?

Speaker 34 I think it's Chris Kayman sighting.

Speaker 14 Yeah, Chris Kayman is curious about this. There's a whole montage.
You'll get, I think.

Speaker 28 We did a whole video. We had like an eight-minute video.

Speaker 14 We could do what? How many would we come up with? A dozen?

Speaker 21 Ten?

Speaker 28 Well,

Speaker 28 the ones I can remember off the top of my head, Kayman was one.

Speaker 22 It goes

Speaker 23 to White Forrest, though.

Speaker 28 Julius Hodge.

Speaker 21 He was playing away Forrest.

Speaker 28 He had Julius Hodge in the junk.

Speaker 28 Man, we had Julius Hodge do a video for us one time.

Speaker 28 We did a lot of Chris Paul nut tapping videos now that I think about it.

Speaker 28 It was great content back in the day before he got old. Ah, those are the days.
I mean, that's a Kevin Durant, right? Yeah.

Speaker 16 I mean, which point guards are definitely ahead of Chris Paul all time?

Speaker 28 Magic Johnson,

Speaker 28 Jason Kidd,

Speaker 28 Stockton,

Speaker 28 Steve Nash,

Speaker 28 Gary Payton.

Speaker 28 Those are, yeah, I'll go with those five.

Speaker 28 No, get Koozi up out of there, man.

Speaker 28 Shot 36% for his

Speaker 3 era, Justin.

Speaker 16 What about Davion Mitchell?

Speaker 28 Davion Mitchell, close. I think he needs a couple more years.

Speaker 14 Zazzlo says he's not going to watch dodgeball now. I mean, I don't even know what happened.

Speaker 21 Yeah, I'm not watching it. I don't know what happened.

Speaker 12 I'm not watching it.

Speaker 21 I don't know what happened.

Speaker 28 Yes.

Speaker 28 I'm glad this came up because I actually have in my hand here.

Speaker 28 I've been doing some reporting, some Pablo Torrey-level reporting here. Would you like to hear the inaugural episode of Bemino Hassan Finds Out?

Speaker 14 I would love that. Does it have any imaging? Do you need any help from

Speaker 22 a cappella?

Speaker 28 I'll do it a cappella unless Chris has something. I don't want to put him in a bad situation.

Speaker 3 Too late.

Speaker 12 Amin.

Speaker 28 Oh, there it is. Thank you, Chris.

Speaker 7 I love your artistic process.

Speaker 6 Some dudes do it with confidence.

Speaker 26 You do it by screaming the effort off Mike several times.

Speaker 4 South Florida legend.

Speaker 26 But that's what got you that status.

Speaker 14 I mean, I mean, he's got to give you a heads up.

Speaker 29 No, it's your fault.

Speaker 16 He said it, Yo, but do we have any imaging?

Speaker 3 You brought up.

Speaker 15 Locally, not since Duncan Robinson has someone been so afraid to do their own job.

Speaker 28 He's doing well, by the way, in Detroit.

Speaker 21 Thank you. Oh, I thought you meant that.
They've lost twice.

Speaker 23 They've lost twice.

Speaker 21 They've lost twice.

Speaker 28 Two years after they set the record for most losses in a row, they're setting a franchise record for most wins in a row. It's the most amazing turnaround in NBA history.

Speaker 14 As soon as they got rid of Stan.

Speaker 28 No, that's not. No, no, no.
It's not Stan's fault.

Speaker 28 Dan, Dan Levittor, it's not Stan's fault.

Speaker 22 It's

Speaker 22 not what the...

Speaker 14 It's Monty Williams' fault.

Speaker 28 It's Monty Williams' fault first.

Speaker 3 What did you find out?

Speaker 28 I found out. Actually, let me do this.
Let me do the Socratic method and ask some questions. Hey, Zaz.
Hey.

Speaker 28 You call yourself a movie buff?

Speaker 29 I'm a great movie guy.

Speaker 21 Great movie guy. Okay.

Speaker 28 I have a report here in my hand

Speaker 28 that you haven't seen Rush Hour?

Speaker 16 No. I admitted that yesterday.

Speaker 25 You didn't find something.

Speaker 16 You can't do mean finds out when it came out of my mouth.

Speaker 1 Said it on yesterday's show.

Speaker 28 You haven't seen Rush Hour 2?

Speaker 21 No.

Speaker 16 Why would I miss Rush Hour, but then watch Skip Ahead to Rush Hour 2?

Speaker 25 It would be a weird move.

Speaker 28 Rush Hour 2 is a better movie. That's why.

Speaker 28 You sit here in front of God and country, claim to be a movie buff, and have not seen the biggest grossing movie of Jackie Chan's career, an international massive superstar? Whatever, man.

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Speaker 1 Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?

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Everything else is merely a suggestion.

Speaker 8 Everything else?

Speaker 1 Everything else.

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Speaker 7 You're getting started on the breakfast flan.

Speaker 14 Oh man, I've been singing the song to myself all morning long.

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Speaker 17 Stugats.

Speaker 25 Have you never heard the breakfast vlog?

Speaker 27 No, hit me by that.

Speaker 11 Okay.

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Speaker 39 Where can I find a breakfast like that?

Speaker 17 This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.

Speaker 14 What did you find out when he told his lamest episode of what he finds out?

Speaker 14 How is your journalism?

Speaker 34 I listened to yesterday's show.

Speaker 28 Pablo Torrey finds out, comes out on Metalwork Media. Amino Hassan finds out, comes out on the Slow Report.

Speaker 16 Zazlo said something. I found out.

Speaker 14 Okay, so he didn't see Rush Hour. Did you have him pinned in any other way? Why are you not watching Dodgeball?

Speaker 16 Because it's been built up too much. Like, I was on the plane this past weekend on my way to Madison.
It was really cold there. That's either here nor there.

Speaker 16 And I was wondering, do I want to watch Dodgeball? It's like, no, no, you know what? It's been built up too much. There's no way.

Speaker 16 There's no way it's as good as everybody's making it sound to be. And like, I don't care.
I've done this much in my life without seeing Dodgeball.

Speaker 25 I've never once said, man, I wish I'd seen Dodgeball.

Speaker 14 Everybody listening to this would say that Dodgeball was good, was fine.

Speaker 21 I'm sorry, it made me.

Speaker 28 No, no, no, no. You know what? Dodgeball, I give you grace.
You don't have to watch it. Thank you.
You didn't watch it? Not a big deal. You never seen Rush Hour, brother.

Speaker 36 Who cares?

Speaker 28 This is more shocking than Dodgeball, than James Bond, the Rambo, than all that stuff. You've never seen the Rush Hour movies.
My children have seen the Rush Hour movies. Listen.
Clamor for Rush Hour.

Speaker 25 You make it sound like the only way that

Speaker 16 you're a movie person is if you've seen every movie.

Speaker 14 I don't even see every movie. Who cares?

Speaker 28 There are certain movies that are on the list that you can't have missed. Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2 are two of them.
Rush Hour 3, not so much. A lot of people miss Rush Hour 3.
Rightfully so.

Speaker 28 They just did it for the money. But Rush Hour, Rush Hour 2.
I'm telling you, my niece came over like a couple of months ago and my kids were like, oh, we got to show a rush hour.

Speaker 28 I'm like, oh, you guys don't want to watch like the new Disney. Oh, we got to watch Rush Hour.

Speaker 28 And they sat there and they watched four hours of Jackie Chan and Chris Sucker cracking wise and roundhouse kicking people.

Speaker 3 You think Rush Hour?

Speaker 28 No, he does his own stunts?

Speaker 16 Of course I know he does his own stunts.

Speaker 21 How do you know you're doing Zoom?

Speaker 3 Because I've seen other Jackie Chan movies. Did you miss the best one?

Speaker 12 I don't know anything.

Speaker 4 Rush Hour is not a classic.

Speaker 34 It's Jackie Chan's best movie.

Speaker 1 After the credits, you get all the mistakes he made trying to jump over the wall.

Speaker 21 Like, oh, I fell.

Speaker 25 I like when movies do that.

Speaker 8 Great soundtrack, too.

Speaker 25 Can I get a what, what?

Speaker 28 Oh, yes, that's right. And Beach Boys also.

Speaker 14 whatever man i would maybe see rush hour but dodgeball i'm out on at this point i don't care i think i don't care if you don't watch dodgeball but i think you're making a mistake i think every i think dodgeball holds up i don't think he's gonna be disappointed by dodgeball it's not about it holding up it's just like who cares whatever then if he hasn't seen rush hour At some point, like, I just have to assume he's never seen any movie.

Speaker 28 Like, have you seen the Karate Kid?

Speaker 16 Really, that makes a lot of sense. If I haven't seen a movie, that means I haven't seen any movies.
That's like...

Speaker 28 Pretty much. I can't assume anything with you.

Speaker 28 I I gotta ask you things like, have you seen the Karate Kid?

Speaker 13 Why is this sound so going?

Speaker 16 Because Amin found something out that I said.

Speaker 21 Yeah, Amin.

Speaker 3 Wait, hold on.

Speaker 28 He's avoiding the answer.

Speaker 16 Have I seen Karate Kid? Yes. You better not be talking about the one with Jackie Chan.
I would never watch that.

Speaker 28 I'm talking about Karate Kid. Yes, the original.

Speaker 6 Of course I have.

Speaker 28 Have you seen Karate Kid 2? Yes. Where does it take place?

Speaker 6 In Okinawa.

Speaker 14 What happened there?

Speaker 6 What just happened?

Speaker 25 That's how you say it.

Speaker 26 That's how you culturally appropriate it. That's how you say it, Tom.

Speaker 14 I don't think that's the way.

Speaker 16 You know about breaking that ice? Yeah, go ahead. You know about those six ice sheets?

Speaker 7 Most people don't know this.

Speaker 6 Zaza's a great Asian guy.

Speaker 31 Go for it.

Speaker 22 Okay,

Speaker 22 you know.

Speaker 21 How long are you going to love me? No, we're not going to do it.

Speaker 14 You're going to be approaching Eskimo territory.

Speaker 21 Oh, hey, Germany said it. Accidentalism.

Speaker 27 Me? I don't know what that is. Wow.

Speaker 11 Bets. Say Godzilla on your way up.

Speaker 21 Don't do that. You guys are going to love it.
Don't do that.

Speaker 22 You guys are going to love it.

Speaker 21 He thought about it for a second.

Speaker 25 Don't do it. No, you guys are going to love it.

Speaker 21 Do I go with him?

Speaker 11 Draw a a line somewhere.

Speaker 14 Yeah, you go with him. Yes, you go with him because you did the same thing.
You lured him into that trap.

Speaker 14 I mean, how can you honestly say to Zaslow, do you understand how extraordinarily bad your judgment is? Where you're prodding Zaszlo, yeah, Zaz, good idea.

Speaker 14 Do something that's not your ethnicity. Go ahead.
And then he falls into your trap.

Speaker 14 Look, we're not playing.

Speaker 28 Zaz's everyday voice.

Speaker 14 We're not playing the character with Zaszlo. Zaszlo dresses that way for Madison because he's not a grown-up.

Speaker 14 You can't lure him into these little traps and think he's an adult.

Speaker 14 He's not an adult. He's been shouting on his own show to himself without any money, without anybody there to check him for a very long time.
And he's a legend.

Speaker 14 And you can't just lure him into the trap of please go ahead, impersonate

Speaker 14 a cast member of the karate kid.

Speaker 29 Come on.

Speaker 12 Come on. I'm climbing up the judgment ranks, huh?

Speaker 28 What are y'all doing, Video Room?

Speaker 14 No, Neek can't do that.

Speaker 25 All right.

Speaker 34 Dan, I can take us off this.

Speaker 34 Let's redraft

Speaker 34 2024 NBA draft because we had this big situation where

Speaker 15 Zazzo said that Khalil Ware would have gone first. I said I think Stefan Castle would have gone first.

Speaker 34 Amin, you're the judge.

Speaker 16 What do you think?

Speaker 28 Hold on, man.

Speaker 28 The audio audience has to know. No, we can't.

Speaker 14 No, we cannot. Keep it moving, Amin.
This is how we're going to be. Audio audience.
No,

Speaker 14 we're going to keep it moving. So

Speaker 14 before we let you go here, what do you make of the Draymond Green Paul Pierce saying that Draymond Green?

Speaker 1 Just forget what Tony asked, and we'll go to Tony, I guess.

Speaker 2 Keon dueling all over again.

Speaker 4 Who would go first overall last year's draft?

Speaker 1 Khalil Ware or the guy Tony said?

Speaker 28 Well, look, Khalil Ware over the last.

Speaker 21 I don't know his name. Okay, that's why I didn't want to do it.

Speaker 3 Stefan Castle.

Speaker 27 With the Grants.

Speaker 27 But Chris just doesn't know because he doesn't watch basketball.

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 23 I know ball.

Speaker 14 Yes, thank you. Appreciate that.
Just throwing

Speaker 14 into the feet of the show.

Speaker 14 Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 14 The larger point that Jeremy is getting excited about and Mike has been muted on is

Speaker 14 if the heat play at this pace and Khalil Ware grows into whatever it is I was asking you the other day, hey, what's the ceiling on this if it continues to grow?

Speaker 14 If they're going to play at a different pace, they're not as good

Speaker 14 as Detroit and they're not as good as Toronto, but they're pretty close.

Speaker 28 They're not as good as Detroit. Toronto,

Speaker 28 I think Toronto's good.

Speaker 28 I think Toronto's good the same way the Miami Heat are good. Yeah, you're good.
Are you like separation from the rest of the conference? I don't think so.

Speaker 28 But I think Detroit obviously is very good.

Speaker 28 But, you know, to go back to the question of who would go first, I think Kellaware has had a great, like, five games here in a row.

Speaker 28 You know, he had the good game against the Knicks with the great defensive stops at the end. Before that, he was kind of up and down in the same way he was up and down a year ago.

Speaker 28 And Castle, through, again, 80,

Speaker 28 what, 90 games or whatever of both of these guys' careers has been the more consistent, better player.

Speaker 28 Time will tell if what we're seeing from Khalel Wear is real and sustainable or is he just having a good streak.

Speaker 28 But obviously, when you talk about someone seven foot tall who could shoot and who can defend the way he can, that is always going to be tantalizing to drafters, draft board prognosticators.

Speaker 14 But you're not willing to commit to something there where I think this is what he is. I think he's going to blossom into some sort of growth spurt that will make him unicorn X.

Speaker 28 I think

Speaker 28 part of that, Dan, is not a development of skill. It's not a development of like body.
It's a development of mind, is your mindset. Are you a killer in that way?

Speaker 28 I remember on this show, we were talking about what's Bam out of bio ceiling could Bam be like Giannis Light and time told that no he couldn't and not because he doesn't have the physical tools or the skill or even the IQ it's just that Bam doesn't have that maniacal level of competition that Giannis has and when I say maniacal level competition I'm not saying that Bam cares about losing whatever but Giannis is so crazy it's like he he will do whatever it takes and will have a confidence in himself that's like I'm better than everybody out here.

Speaker 28 And I don't think Bam has that vibe about him on a day-to-day basis.

Speaker 28 He might have in some games, but the ability to bring that every single game, that often is a separator from very, very talented people.

Speaker 28 And so for Kill Elware, we know he hasn't had it coming into his career. Can he develop it? Can he learn it? Can he sustain it? It remains to be seen.

Speaker 1 If you're redrafting last year's draft, though, real quick, just to answer Tony's question, who are you taking first overall?

Speaker 30 Killer Ware.

Speaker 28 Based on the 19th century. In the future,

Speaker 1 based off the next 10 years right now, you got to make sure you take you go kill Or because you go sock.

Speaker 28 Ha, Tony.

Speaker 3 Ha!

Speaker 28 But like, but Stephon Castle's had the better career to this point.

Speaker 14 Before we let you go on basketball-related matters, as a former sons person, the Ishbia lawsuit, is that something that you can condense for us in a digestible fashion?

Speaker 14 The minority owners saying that he's a mismanagement fool?

Speaker 28 I can't condense it. No, let's leave that for another day where we got a little bit more time.

Speaker 7 All right, I have a different question for Amin finds out then. Dating back to last year when Rozier fell out of the rotation.
Miami closed the season strongly, got into the playoffs.

Speaker 7 You're talking about the Pistons. You're talking about the heat exceeding expectations.

Speaker 7 Is it fair to mention, hey, they started playing better when the two guys that had this stuff surrounding them are no longer playing?

Speaker 28 No, because the Pistons were playing very well last year, and Malik Beasley was a big part of their success.

Speaker 28 I think what Duncan Robinson is doing this year is great, but I mean, it stands to reason that Malik Beasley would have been that guy hitting those shots and helping them win the way they have.

Speaker 28 Terry Rozier, obviously, not as good of a player for the Heat. And so not having him around it.
And again, this goes back to, we've talked about this with Spo before, Mike.

Speaker 28 Spo has this weird kind of obligation sometimes to guys that like, oh, I can't sit that guy.

Speaker 28 And Terry Rozier was one of those guys where it was like, it was apparent, look, he's not helping the team win. But Spo just kept sticking with him as far as a rotation guy.

Speaker 28 So having him off the board, I think absolutely helps Spo not only trust other guys, but also make sure that that guy's not on the floor.

Speaker 16 I mean, what do you make of John Morant and Clay Thompson the other day?

Speaker 28 Okay, oh, that's what I wanted to talk about. All right, so

Speaker 28 I have a theory that I don't think anyone else has said anywhere.

Speaker 28 I think everyone misunderstood Ja, his original statement. Because the original thing he said was best shooter in the house, and ain't that one from Golden State.

Speaker 28 And everyone thought they were talking, he was talking about the house that they were in, which is the arena in Dallas or whatever. And the one from Golden State was Clay Thompson.

Speaker 28 But he was talking about Cam Spencer, his teammate. Cam Spencer's brother is Pat Spencer.
Pat Spencer plays for the Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 28 I think what John was saying was that the best shooter in the Spencer house was Cam, and it ain't the one in Golden State. And everyone took it as a shot at Clay.

Speaker 28 And then, you know how it goes with NBA guys. Once one guy starts talking shit, now they're both talking shit.

Speaker 28 The start of the shot.

Speaker 14 that's a found out.

Speaker 1 I don't think he knows.

Speaker 23 Do you know that?

Speaker 14 Wait a minute. You got to put your found out on that.
Put do the imaging on that.

Speaker 28 A deductive logic.

Speaker 1 It's a theory. It's a play on for me.
It's a non-I don't know. He doesn't get the sounder there.

Speaker 3 So you find.

Speaker 28 I didn't find out. I got another one for you along those lines, right? Kenyon Martin.
And Draymond Green. I thought, Dan, you'd be all over.
This one.

Speaker 22 Major call out.

Speaker 25 We're out of time.

Speaker 28 Okay.

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