The Big Blue Wave

Speaker 1 Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Find Out podcast.

Speaker 1 It feels good this morning. We're recording the day after Election Day.
You'll see this on Thursday, but

Speaker 1 everything just feels lighter, guys. And we also have an amazing guest with us, and that is Amanda from Amanda's Mild Takes.
She is a political and historical content creator.

Speaker 1 So, Amanda, thank you for joining us on this wonderful morning. I'm so happy to be here.
Birds are singing. Everything is glorious.
I know.

Speaker 1 It feels like everything is coming out of a Disney movie.

Speaker 1 I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to do with myself now. I know.
I know. It's been nine months

Speaker 1 of doom and gloom or a year really of doom and gloom. And that'd mean 10 years of doom and gloom.
Well, we had a little break,

Speaker 1 but not really. We had a little break with a pandemic.

Speaker 1 During the plague.

Speaker 1 So, guys, we won everywhere. And it wasn't just that we won everywhere.
We won big

Speaker 1 everywhere. I mean, Abby Spanberg, Abigail Spanberger won by 13, 14 points.
15. 15.
Mikey Sherrill, who everyone thought maybe could be in trouble, won by like 13 points.

Speaker 1 The Yes on 50 campaign blew it out of the water. That passed.
Maine

Speaker 1 beat back a bad voter bill and also passed a red flag law, a gun bill, which is actually really good, which allows law enforcement and police officer, law enforcement and judges to take guns away from people who are domestic abusers or a threat to themselves, which is great.

Speaker 1 Mississippi broke the super majority. We were just joking before the show with Amanda that we haven't said anything positive about Mississippi like ever.

Speaker 1 And so there's, and there's so many more. There were like the Democrats in the House of Delegates of Virginia cleaned house.
So I'm going to start with Amanda.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling?

Speaker 1 And yeah.

Speaker 1 Just give us the

Speaker 1 unedited version. I'm tired.
I worked the polls yesterday for 16 hours. Holy cow.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was a lot. And as we were packing up and like calling in our results from our precinct to the county,

Speaker 1 uh, Spam Burger's race was called before we'd even left the building. So that was amazing.
Uh, that took 16 minutes from the time the polls closed in Virginia for decision desk to call it.

Speaker 1 And then I went home and got really drunk. I got really drunk.
I opened the bottle of champagne that I did not get to open on election night, 2024. I opened it last night.
Um, yeah,

Speaker 1 yummy.

Speaker 1 And now I feel great. I feel sorry.
I feel great. I'm not hungover, which I feel like is magic.
Excellent. Because I'm 20 years old, y'all, and those hangovers come fast.
Not that I make it.

Speaker 1 And they'll stay with you.

Speaker 1 I've got you beat by a few years. And

Speaker 1 we had a live show last night, and there were some drinks. So we're a little slow this morning, but

Speaker 1 we're going to ask everybody, but man, I want to start with you. Like, what.

Speaker 1 What if, what did we learn last night? What does this mean?

Speaker 1 What did we learn?

Speaker 1 Well, I want to say, I'm going to just say this at the top. I do not think that what we learned was that any particular kind of candidate is the face of the Democratic Party moving forward.

Speaker 1 Mom Dani won by nine points. Spamberger won by 15 points.
These are completely different candidates.

Speaker 1 But they both and Mikey ran, all three of them ran on affordability.

Speaker 1 And all three of them won. young men, which is a problem for the Democratic Party.
Mom Dani by 40 points, which is amazing.

Speaker 1 And so they won on affordability. They want on the things that their electorate cares about.

Speaker 1 And they wrapped that in messaging that resonated with their voters because a voter in Brooklyn is not the same as a voter in Hampton Rhodes, Virginia.

Speaker 1 And that's what I think that I think that's what we learned, that we just have to keep doing that. We need to keep doing that.
Yeah, I completely agree.

Speaker 1 And we were talking about it on the show last night. Like, you know, everyone keeps saying, like, who's the, who is the future of the Democratic Party? And the answer is nobody and everybody.

Speaker 1 Oh, everybody. Yeah, it's the same thing as them saying they want a Joe Rogan Rogan of the left.
Like, no, you're trying to answer the wrong question. Like, you just need to tap all the talent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's reason versus chaos. Like, it's the left versus the right is not two equal things that are on opposite sides of a spectrum.

Speaker 1 It's crystallized things on the left and absolute fucking mayhem on the right. And we don't want absolute fucking mayhem on the left to counter the mayhem on the right.

Speaker 1 Amanda, I was very eager to

Speaker 1 talk to you today because I know that you've dealt with this in many of your comments. You've done videos on this.
Are we ever going to have free and fair elections again?

Speaker 1 Because I'm still not convinced. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So my usual answer to that, you're right. I hear that every day.
We're never going to have free and fair elections again. Actually, it started.
We're going to give up.

Speaker 1 We're never going to have elections again. Obviously, that's going to be fake.
So then we just.

Speaker 1 move the goalpost to the next thing to have an anxiety spiral about, which is we're never going to have free and fair elections again.

Speaker 1 And my answer to that is generally, we have never never in the history of this country had free and fair elections literally not ever when the country was founded the only people who could vote were maybe three of you uh propertied white men overseas

Speaker 1 it took you know 200 years for black men to get the right to vote it took another 60 for white women to get the right to vote and then it took another 50 for people like me to get to the right to vote uh so that's never happened and then we've had gerrymandering poll taxes literacy tests i mean in some in some counties now in america it's illegal for you to hand out water to people who are in line to to vote.

Speaker 1 And those lines are on purpose. Those lines are purposeful.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Because I live in a state like that.

Speaker 1 Yes. Voter suppression.
Trash state. Real.
Has been real. I mean, yesterday we had bomb threats called into polling places in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 It turned out to mostly be like some dumb kid, but that dumb kid learned it from somewhere. That's something that you can.

Speaker 1 And I didn't check, but I was like, I wonder if they were blue or red areas where the threats were called in. I think I know.
Yeah, I didn't look either.

Speaker 1 But once I saw that it was a kid and a prank, I was like, well, whatever. Probably just some moving on, which is a thing that, you know, we deal with a lot with especially young men, not TV,

Speaker 1 that have no coherent ideology. But yeah, so are we going to have free and fair elections in the midterms? I don't know.
I mean, is there going to be more gerrymandering? Probably.

Speaker 1 We're obviously getting into that fight now, too. Is there going to be more voter suppression? Maybe.

Speaker 1 The future is not knowable, which is also something that I have to say constantly to my followers.

Speaker 1 But I want people to understand that the franchise is something we have been fighting for for 250 years.

Speaker 1 And that fight did not end just because you can walk into your polling place with ease because you're not a felon and you're a white person or you're whatever.

Speaker 1 That doesn't mean that it has been easy or free or fair for other people. And that is still the case.

Speaker 1 I love that response. I was expecting, like, no, the doom spiralers can fuck off, but you actually gave a really nuanced, thoughtful, like, shit, I got to think about it.

Speaker 1 We're in an active fight is what you're saying. We're in an active fight forever for America.
So maybe we shouldn't say, oh, man, and then like go turn on rom-coms and give up.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's always an option.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a place for that. I might do that later today because I'm fucking exhausted, but

Speaker 1 not a permanent state to live in, though. Yeah.
Well, self-care, obviously. I mean, people need to take care of themselves, especially after a big victory last night.

Speaker 1 People should be resting and getting gearing up for now, which is going to sound crazy, but the midterm elections are now less than a year away by one day. And now the focus is on that.

Speaker 1 What do they do? And those campaigns are starting in like three months. And

Speaker 1 they already have. I mean,

Speaker 1 but in earnest, right? Like after the, after, yeah, they're fundraising, now organizing. But like, this is, this is my big takeaway when I woke up this morning.
It was like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 If I'm a Republican and I won my seat by 12 points last cycle in the House, notably, and now I'm going, what the fuck? There are 20 and 30 point swings to the left in some of these areas.

Speaker 1 And he completely lost the Latino gains that he made, by the way, in 2024.

Speaker 1 Back to baseline.

Speaker 1 Two to one,

Speaker 1 60-30 for the Democratic candidates in multiple states, in multiple counties where there's a strong Hispanic vote.

Speaker 1 All of the things that they thought were going to hold, that they prayed were going to hold true into the midterms are now not true. And they are facing that.

Speaker 1 And they're facing the fact that they just spread themselves thinner in a bunch of areas

Speaker 1 with gerrymandering. So I'm like,

Speaker 1 if I'm the person in the house deciding am I going to do Trump's work anymore? Or am I a rising star thinking of getting into politics?

Speaker 1 2026 looks real, real bad now compared to how it looked even 24, 48 hours ago. Have you guys seen Marjorie Taylor Greene? Suddenly she's trying to rebrand herself as rational and sane.

Speaker 2 I can't believe that.

Speaker 1 She's been like going on the view and talking as if she's a normal person, which she is not. She is, will always be Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Speaker 1 But she recognizes that even in her district, which would be impossible for a Republican to lose, that she's got to start working. Like she's, she's got to work to keep that seat.

Speaker 1 And that's going to be the case for every Republican in the House.

Speaker 1 If I am one of those Texas members of Congress,

Speaker 1 whose district went from a Republican plus 10 to 12 to plus seven because of the gerrymandering because you have to put the Democrats somewhere,

Speaker 1 I would be freaking out today. I'd be on Indeed right now.

Speaker 1 You guys, Mike Johnson says he doesn't think that last night was about Republicans at all. He says it's not indicative about Republicans at all.
Sure, but

Speaker 1 Mike Johnson Johnson.

Speaker 2 I mean, Mike Johnson should take a look at the best performance

Speaker 2 person against the Democrats, was a Democrat in Cuomo. He did, and so every Republican bets.

Speaker 1 Democrats won 91% of votes in New York City.

Speaker 1 I mean, even if you look at like the suburbs of Virginia, which Republicans have to win the suburbs in my state to go to Congress, like Chesterfield County, which is the fastest growing county in the state, suburbs of Richmond.

Speaker 1 Glenn Young, our Republican governor, won Chesterfield County by five points in 2021. Abigail Spamberger won it last night by 17 points.
Jesus. 17 points.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're, and, and that, and Chesterfield County is in Rob Whitman's district, and he, he ran ahead of Trump a little bit in 2024.

Speaker 1 I don't know that. I mean, if I'm him, I'm waking up today pissing myself.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, I saw that trend all night last night because I'd like to dive into the numbers.

Speaker 2 And it was really the rural areas where I was the most surprised because these rural areas, people are coming out really, really bad for MAGA because MAGA is like Trump's approach in the generals is to run up the numbers in rural America.

Speaker 2 And it's worked extraordinarily well. And this time, the polar opposite happened because people are actually feeling the pain of a Trump presidency.

Speaker 2 The prices aren't getting better and they can't, they just can't. They have to have something change or they're screwed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're, we're entering the find out season.

Speaker 1 This is, it's hard. It's going to be harder to get

Speaker 1 to get vaccines. We're, we're only beginning to see like the FDA, like food and drug protection starting to get rolled back.

Speaker 1 Like people are literally going to be getting sick and dying and paying more for health care because of all the decisions that have Republicans have been making for the last 12 months. Right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I think that the wave that we saw last night is just the beginning. Like more and more Republicans, even the die-hard MAGAs, are going to start peeling away from Trump.

Speaker 1 I mean, building a massive gold-plated fucking ballroom while

Speaker 1 the federal workforce is either getting laid off or furloughed or forced to work without pay. And they're waiting at the point.
Like Virginia's not voting Trumpy again.

Speaker 1 Like that, the shutdown hurts Virginians more than anyone.

Speaker 1 If you guys want to see a really good number out of Fairfax, I'm like, okay, I'm looking at the counties. Fairfax County, that's yeah, largest county, largest, bluest county in Virginia.

Speaker 1 66% for Kamala Harris in 2024.

Speaker 1 Jay Jones got 68%. Oh my god.
And Fairfax. Jones outperformed her? Jay Jones

Speaker 1 outperformed Kamala Harris. Not because Jay is that great, because he only won 52% statewide, but because that's how fucking much everyone is pissed off.

Speaker 1 I mean, in Northern Virginia, close to GP.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I was looking at Loudoun, Loudoun County last night when like 75% was in.

Speaker 1 And I was, I think, actually, Zach and I were talking about it on our live thing. And I was like, wait a minute,

Speaker 1 Spamberger's not just overperforming Kamala. She's running ahead of Joe Biden in 2020.
I was like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 And like, that was, that was a big year because obviously, like, voter turnout in that year was so huge because of COVID and everyone couldn't stand Trump. And then I guess we forgot.

Speaker 1 And now we're back to understanding he needs to go.

Speaker 1 Just a reminder that Americans

Speaker 1 flush here.

Speaker 1 Worse than a goldfish. Yeah, but

Speaker 1 it's just incredible. And I think the great point that you made, Amanda, is that we are running.
the right candidates in the right places.

Speaker 1 And we have all, myself included. I mean, I don't know if you have, Amanda, but I, you know, we've been critical of Ken Martin, the chair of the DNC.
But you look, like,

Speaker 1 it's not that he waved a wand and made it awesome, but like they clearly knew what they were doing on the ground. And I think that has made a tremendous difference.

Speaker 1 And the other thing, and I'd love to get your take on this, is that this is really like Democrats are waking up to the alternative media, like the podcasts and the influencer space.

Speaker 1 And I think it's making a huge difference.

Speaker 1 I, I've no, like, I, there were like seven or eight people I knew in my feed arm arm in arm with Mikey Sherrill and Abigail Spanberger and Gavin Newsom in California.

Speaker 1 Like, they are getting it and it is working.

Speaker 1 I absolutely, yes, yes, I agree. I mean, I worked with the Spanberger campaign really closely for the last few months.

Speaker 1 And I saw her, the candidate specifically, be so game to talk, to like do digital content with influencers and political, like, just not

Speaker 1 limit herself to going on CNN or, or even Fox News or whatever. Like, the mainstream media is useless.
I don't want to be like it's gone the way of the dinosaur.

Speaker 1 Yes, but it's, and it's not just, that's not just my opinion. Like viewership of the main cable news networks is down

Speaker 1 every year. It's, it's, the bottom has fallen out.
And, you know,

Speaker 1 to kind of hang a lantern on it, when people tell me, like,

Speaker 1 when people criticize the Democrats or Ken Martin or whoever, sometimes I get pushback about that from my followers.

Speaker 1 And they'll say, well, that's just because the mainstream media spreads right-wing propaganda. I'm like, maybe that's true, but nobody fucking watches the mainstream media.

Speaker 1 I'm not spreading right-wing propaganda.

Speaker 1 Like, we have issues we need to correct. We have to course correct after a big loss.
It's not just propaganda. Even if it was, it's propaganda, no one hears.
So, who cares?

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 even, like, I thought about this a lot last night when I was drinking champagne.

Speaker 1 Um, but the number of people that I hear from who say, when I did, for example, content about the race in Mississippi, where they broke the GOP supermajority in their state senate, I had probably 30 people who lived in Mississippi DM me and say they did not even know that election was happening.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they would not have known if it hadn't been for digital content creators and influencers talking about it.

Speaker 1 So I think that we are, I'm not, we're not like responsible for this. You know, that's not what I'm saying.
But I think that the tide is changing and that

Speaker 1 the voices of people making content about politics on the left are becoming more influential than mainstream media if they aren't already. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1 I mean, the number of times I get comments, and I'm one of what, maybe 5,000, 10,000 content creators who get, you know, hundreds of thousands of millions of views a a month.

Speaker 1 The number of times I get comments that are about things that I think are like kind of mainstream news and they'll say, I wouldn't have known about this if it weren't for this video.

Speaker 1 It might be two or three per video, but like that shit adds up when you've got 5,010,000 people who are all doing this.

Speaker 1 I saw the speech prof, Professor Chesco, who's one of my favorite creators on Instagram.

Speaker 1 He mentioned the other day that he gets about 100 million views a month across all of his platforms, which I had no idea. I know, which I'm like, what are you doing doing that I'm not doing? But

Speaker 1 he does videos about like guys should like wipe their butts more and like to like keep themselves clean and stuff. So his videos are a little more mainstream.
But

Speaker 1 no, the reach, absolutely. Like people don't realize mainstream media, like on a good night, it'll get to like 800,000 people, maybe a million people.

Speaker 1 That's one good video. from any of the six people on the screen right now.
And that happens in 24 hours too. I'm like, you're telling me it's this easy?

Speaker 1 And they're spending what, 6 million a day, 10 million a day, you know, on their budget to create that same content. It's just a

Speaker 1 different seven-year-old. Different narrative, right?

Speaker 2 You have to be over 70 to even fuck it. Well, I know my parents are over 70 and like they just have MSNBC in the background all day long, but that's it.

Speaker 2 That's the, it's like literally just people who want background noise. Like, that's what the mainstream media is really turned into.

Speaker 1 Old people turn way up because they don't have hearing aids. Right.

Speaker 2 Sorry to my parents who listen to this. They're not old, I promise.

Speaker 1 Trump's 60 minutes interview from earlier this week. 90 minutes.

Speaker 1 He was like bragging about it. It got like 16 million viewers or something like that.
And it was a record-setting and all this. And I was like, I do that in 48 hours.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wait, are you suggesting Donald Trump inflated numbers that benefit him? Even if he didn't, or even if he did.

Speaker 1 Rich, I think you meant 27 minutes.

Speaker 1 His views are up 3.2% since last year. It's true.
I mean, who, like, can you name the anchors of all of the network evening news at this point? I can't.

Speaker 1 And that used to to be like back in the day, it was like Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, and

Speaker 1 who was on NBC? Oh, God. Now I can't.

Speaker 1 Edward Armuro. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Brian Williams at one point.

Speaker 1 But anyways, like nobody watched. I mean, I think people over 70 watch that stuff.
I mean, if you're retired, it totally makes sense. But like nobody under 50 watches that

Speaker 1 at all. And so, you know, I mean, I think, and, and look, like, you know, we had the first digital native win a big race in

Speaker 1 Memdani here in New York City last night. And the reason he spent money on TV was only to push down the margins that Cuomo would get because he was getting with older voters.

Speaker 1 But the majority of the people that he reached was entirely on social media. And we had, I think, the biggest turnout for an election since the 1960s, 1969.

Speaker 1 Which is really significant because that was when like

Speaker 1 New York City was and all of the college campuses were on fire because

Speaker 1 sometimes literally because of protests against the Vietnam War. So for turnout to reach that level without an international conflict as the basis of it, that's like really significant.

Speaker 1 And I haven't seen anyone put it in that context yet.

Speaker 1 And in Virginia, Spamberger's margin, a Democrat has not won the Virginia governor's mansion by that margin since the early 60s when the Democratic Party stood for some very different things. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Especially in the South.
Yeah. Yep.
So it's a really like, when you're talking about modern American politics, she has set a new standard for the state. Yeah.
That's great. I think the

Speaker 1 thing that's really inspiring to me is

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 2024, November, we like our house got burned down, right? Like the whole

Speaker 1 media house got burned down. Our political house got burned down um the actual house of representatives almost um it was bad and

Speaker 1 so now we're in a period where it's like well maybe instead of doing like a fucking half-ass remodel of the kitchen we just do it right like what if we just rebuilt a better thing that it's way more expensive it takes for fucking ever um it is a lot more work but you get to do it correctly and i think that's something that is really uh I think the pandemic had this effect on our economy to some degree, but it's, it's, we're in a place now where we get to say, well, do we want MSNBC to be our source of truth?

Speaker 1 Do we want a Beyonce endorsement for the presidential candidate to be the most important thing in the world? Like, we don't have to do any of those things that didn't work for us.

Speaker 1 And now we get to just do a new thing.

Speaker 1 And that's really exciting to me because we're seeing like Zoran Mamdani would not have been a viable candidate in a normal election year. They would have been like, no, you're too young.

Speaker 1 Wait your turn. And they would have just crushed him way before the primary season.
But he knew and everybody knew, like, no, we need, we need a big swing.

Speaker 1 We need something fucking crazy right now to wake everybody up. And that's what we're going to see.
And I think we're going to continue. Now this is just a spark.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to continue to see everybody else who looks like Zoron and who sounds like Zoron or any of these other candidates who are thinking like, I want to get into this. Now is the time.

Speaker 1 Like this is 2006, Barack Obama, right? Where you're like, okay, in two years,

Speaker 1 the timing is going to be perfect.

Speaker 1 And this is where I refuse to make a prediction about 2028. People ask me, this is probably the most asked question.
Then, again, is who do you think is going to win the 2028 primary?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, man, we don't even, there are people who are going to be in that race whose name you don't know. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 2 No question about it.

Speaker 1 So just give, stop. Like, just let it, let it unfold.

Speaker 1 Let's focus on one rate, one election at a time, right? Like, I think, right.

Speaker 1 And what I think is really exciting about last night is that I hope this sends a signal to people who are thinking about running for office to run.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're, even if you're in a red area, run. Just, just do it.

Speaker 1 And, and the thing about about it is that, you know, we were talking about this last night, but you run in some of these elections, like even if you run close and lose, somebody below you, that might put them over the finish line.

Speaker 1 Like building a base, a feeder system essentially for candidates is so important. And that's why I talk about run for something so often because they help train people.

Speaker 1 Like the message of last night is one, we can win in red areas, but two, also, like

Speaker 1 you, you can run. Like, you, it doesn't actually take that much.
Look at Marjorie Taylor Greene. She doesn't know anything and, like, is a crazy person and is a member of, is a member of Congress.

Speaker 1 Lauren Boebert, who wore that racist Halloween costume the other day, that was funny. She's won like three times.

Speaker 1 Most, I think people think that there is like a barrier to running. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Next year, we need to run candidates everywhere because we can actually win in places that I don't think anyone would imagine yesterday.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, look, I mean, Mom Maldani is the perfect example of that.
I mean, he was pulling at like what, 1% if you rewind to the primary, like early days.

Speaker 2 And now he just won 50.5% of all of New York City

Speaker 1 million votes.

Speaker 1 With three major candidates, right? So it wasn't a one-on-one.

Speaker 1 I did see some funny threads posts from angry Cuomo people yelling at Curtis Liwa for staying in. It's like, you caused us the election.
And everybody was like, can you guys do math?

Speaker 1 Even if you take this all, if you give all of them, which wouldn't even happen, he still wouldn't have beaten him.

Speaker 1 So if I was a Republican in New York, I would be so pissed off at Donald Trump right now. Actually, like Sliwa won a major party primary and Trump just abandoned him.

Speaker 1 I know he's a character and he's whatever. I understand.

Speaker 1 He eats cigarettes. And he was never going to win.
Fine.

Speaker 1 But like, that's, he won your primary and you just

Speaker 1 left him out

Speaker 1 in the wind and endorsed an an establishment Democrat.

Speaker 2 It's very bizarre. I mean that race was weird too.

Speaker 2 Like I'm just looking at the numbers now and it's like to me that's the only one where I was like there's something there's a deeper story to this because Cuomo outperformed the polls by 10%.

Speaker 1 Like that, I don't know why. Like that,

Speaker 2 it seems like a bunch of Saliwa support people got there and went, ah, all right, I'll just go for Cuomo because he's the only viable person.

Speaker 2 But that, I am very curious how that's going to go because I do think like Momdani's win is really critical for for like what we're talking about in 28 and even in 26 because how he does in the job I think is going to play a role in how willing the Democratic Party is to embrace like deeper democratic socialist ideas.

Speaker 2 If he falls in his face and it doesn't work, I think they'll be like, nah, forget it. We're not doing it.
But I think if he succeeds, it'll be interesting.

Speaker 2 So I like, I wonder, is he going to feel like I didn't perform as well as I thought I was going to? Because almost the polling was way better than what ended up working out here.

Speaker 2 So I hope he still sticks to his guns guns and attacks this because he needs to or else Democrats are going to run another fucking Hakeem Jeffries type.

Speaker 1 Well, I think if you look at the numbers, right, like most of the polls had Sliwa on the 15% and he ended up around 16%.

Speaker 2 16 was the average. He got 17%.

Speaker 1 Essentially, what you said is correct. Most of those people got to the ballot box and made the decision for Cuomo.
But the Namdani thing now, there's a couple of things as the resident.

Speaker 1 New York City resident of this in this show right now. There's a couple of things.
One,

Speaker 1 he has to appoint really smart people with city government experience to run the departments underneath him. Like that is a very, very important thing.

Speaker 1 And the other thing that is kind of flying under the radar right now is that the speaker of the city council, which is essentially like the legislature for the city,

Speaker 1 is retiring, Adrian Adams. And there is a battle underway to be the next speaker.
And there is my city council member, actually, Crystal Hudson, is the Memdani person. And then there is a more,

Speaker 1 I don't think it's fair to call her the Cuomo version, but like she, she didn't endorse a mayoral candidate.

Speaker 1 And these are the two. So it's going to be a, you know, I think having

Speaker 1 either one of them is going to change the dynamics of how things get done. I think with Crystal, it's a partner.
And with the other woman, which I'm sorry, I cannot remember her name.

Speaker 1 She's from the Upper East Side, I believe.

Speaker 1 You know, it may be a little more contentious. You know, so it'll be interesting, but he has to.

Speaker 1 he has to deliver on some of this yes or it will backfire on us but i he he is a smart guy and the city is behind him. I mean, he has a mandate over 50% of three-way race.
He has a mandate. So 100%.

Speaker 1 But he has to move quickly, I think, because otherwise you're right. I think Trump will salivate at

Speaker 1 going after him. But if he performs well, I think Memdani could be his worst nightmare.

Speaker 2 He's got to pick one thing and champion that one thing. Sort of like Obama did with Obamacare.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to just attack this one gigantic issue and prove that I can get something done. I think he's got to do that.

Speaker 2 I mean, I leave it to you, Tim, being the New York City resident of what that should be, but it needs to be something big. And like a lot of the city feels it.

Speaker 1 Well, it's going to be a partnership with Kathy Hochul because a lot of the things in the city that need to get done, you need, you need state approval. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, the free bus idea, for example, the MTA is not run by the city. It's run by the state.
So you have to talk about that.

Speaker 1 He can raise city taxes on millionaires. So like I assume that that will get done.
And again, that

Speaker 1 average, I think, is like $2,000 $2,000 extra for people making a million dollars because it's only on the money above a million.

Speaker 1 People always think that it's all or nothing and it's no, it's a tier thing.

Speaker 1 You know, the rent control stuff, he's got some, he's got some levers, but about 8%

Speaker 1 of apartments in New York City are rent controlled. And those are the ones that he really can manage.
But all the ballot initiatives passed last night.

Speaker 1 which means there is more flexibility to develop housing in the city. So like that's probably an area where he really needs to get to work.

Speaker 1 The challenge with that is that we won't see results of that for two years because building big buildings takes a while. And so that's going to be a challenge.
You know, universal child care. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 So we'll have to see.

Speaker 1 Because that one will save.

Speaker 1 New Yorkers on average. I think the average is like $20,000 to $25,000 a year.
That's right.

Speaker 1 That is an affordability win. Yeah.
mean, exactly.

Speaker 2 I mean, not everybody has kids, but I mean, a ton do. And that will be a large-scale effect that everybody can get behind.

Speaker 1 It's also a lot of money that gets freed up and dumped into the economy in other ways because it's not like the child care providers are not getting paid. They're just getting paid by somebody else.

Speaker 1 And then suddenly you've got $25,000 to spend. But I think

Speaker 1 right, exactly. Like, ooh, new hot tub.

Speaker 1 I think.

Speaker 1 It's not going into debt. That's

Speaker 1 the app. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 Pay off the student loan debt that Biden tried to cover for you.

Speaker 1 You know, New York City will have New York City things to sort out with Mom Dani, but when you look at like the national win, like what is Trump going to do with it? And will it be good or bad?

Speaker 1 Like, like he used to try to do with Pelosi. I mean, we're talking about one year, you know, right? Until people decide in the midterm.

Speaker 1 So, like, in terms of national political impacts, if Mom Dani can pick one thing,

Speaker 1 if he freezes rent, if he gives, if he can give childcare, if those million uh billionaires that we talked about in the last episode all leave new york then housing prices are going to go way down really fast

Speaker 1 those those are going to show up in his approval rating and if he's got a 50 plus percent approval rating whatever trump says won't really matter because people vote with what's happening to their life like that's what we saw last night and that's what we'll see again it's what we've seen in every election frankly forever if you have more money and you're happier personally you are more likely to vote with an open mind, you know, for the future and for other people.

Speaker 1 You've got a bigger capacity for empathy. So, if he can just keep, if he can just maintain where he's at today, score some wins,

Speaker 1 Trump can say every fucking stupid ass thing that he's inevitably going to say. He can invade Venezuela.

Speaker 1 And he was going to either way. So, I'm not, I'm not.

Speaker 1 I think New Yorkers are going to reflexively rally around Monty. Even

Speaker 1 those who didn't support him when they see that New York City, their home, is being targeted because Donald Trump's a racist, like that's going to start peeling away the Cuomo voters who never would have supported a Democratic socialist.

Speaker 1 I think New York City is going to

Speaker 1 be really unified moving forward. I also think when

Speaker 1 Cuomo voters realize that

Speaker 1 Mamdani is not instituting Sharia law, like some of them seem to have indicated,

Speaker 1 he's going to help tremendously.

Speaker 1 I mean, that campaign, and I actually ended up speaking out against the Cuomo campaign because they ran, like, Cuomo went on a radio show and they were joking about, oh, could you imagine if Mibdani was mayor on 9-11?

Speaker 1 You know, the Islamophobia, like, it wasn't even masking it.

Speaker 1 And I think when people,

Speaker 1 but it worked on some people, they were just like, I can't live here. It's going to be like this socialist hellscape.
And I'm like.

Speaker 1 The things he was talking about, like, if you looked at European politicians, I don't think they would call that socialism. It's just because we are such a right-leaning country that the notion of

Speaker 1 government providing services is the Republicans have done such a great job of making it seem bad.

Speaker 1 In fact, most of the world knows that it is, it has problems, but it's good. Right.

Speaker 2 Like all the things that they complain about, it's trying to solve those things. Like that's, that's what I don't like.
It's so systemically, right?

Speaker 1 Like, like holistically and systemically solve those things, not like wait for a fucking startup to figure it out and then charge you a monthly subscription subscription fee for it.

Speaker 1 That's the private sector solution for everything.

Speaker 1 I think it'll be really interesting how the Jewish community in New York responds to Mom Dani, especially, especially right now, because the last few days have seen such a weird vibe coming out of the GOP.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, Trump going on Truth Social and calling Mom Dani a Jew hater and then saying, if you vote for him, you're Jewish.

Speaker 1 And then he said, if you vote for him and you're Jewish, you're stupid. Like he just called Jewish people stupid.

Speaker 2 That's awesome.

Speaker 1 And then everything that's going going on with the Heritage Foundation, backing Nick Fuentes, who is an open, verified company.

Speaker 1 Like the right is, I think, just starting to be a little more mask off about

Speaker 1 hating Jewish people, which they always have.

Speaker 1 Their alignment with Israel is not the same thing as their alignment with what happens to Jewish people.

Speaker 1 So as he, as Mom Donnie gets into office and is very obviously not a Jew hater,

Speaker 1 like nothing happens. Right.
Right. I think it'll be very interesting how the Jewish population responds.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The other, the other thing that I, i i found really interesting that a lot of people haven't been talking about is also trumps uh these ice raids everyone hates them like and i think that you see the latino swings like it's crazy like like zach you said or whoever said like they were completely wiped out and i think that's another reason why new yorkers like if he tries that here

Speaker 1 it is trump's popularity numbers will will drop and then dani's numbers will shoot up it is just a fact because new yorkers are just they've seen what happens in Chicago, see what happened in

Speaker 1 DC, and it's not working. Like it is not working in their favor at all.
No,

Speaker 1 it's all bad for them right now.

Speaker 2 It's one, the miscalculation is so obvious too, because like if you look at the data, people did generally support his immigration plans when he was elected, but he misrepresented what this was.

Speaker 2 Like he wasn't like, hey, we're going to just go and just zip tie women and children to throw them in vans. Are you guys in? Like nobody was in on that.

Speaker 2 They were like, all right, if you if you want to go after criminals and throw them out that's cool we're down with that like that pulled well and then he just went 50 000 steps further and it was like wait a minute and we all heard the dog whistles like we knew everybody else is paying attention and said hey we know exactly what's coming right well most people who vote for president don't pay attention unfortunately

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 and well because it's coming from stephen miller now like even if trump genuinely you you never know if he's if he genuinely believes the things that he's saying like yeah you can never tell but even if he did genuinely think when i get into office i'm only going to target criminals he's lost his mental capacity so quickly since inauguration like he's so addled with dementia i legitimately don't know if he knows what day it is half the time uh and stephen miller is running the immigration policy now and stephen miller hates brown people like i i yeah

Speaker 1 you can just see it it's it's disturbing the amount of

Speaker 1 and odd like it's 2025 what are you what is your problem

Speaker 1 that's what i want to ask him like what is your gamma he's also from he's also from santa monica Like, it's not like he's had some experience or what he's just awful. And his family is left-leaning.

Speaker 1 Like, he had an uncle, right? I think of the first Trump administration, basically is talking about how they all disowned him.

Speaker 1 Like, it is strange, but like, there's even videos of him in high school saying, like, why do I need to put stuff in the trash when we have janitors? Yeah, sorry. Like, just that wasn't even racist.

Speaker 1 It's just, that's a classist thing, right? Little man's just a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 He is a Marvel villain. Like, he is a caricature of a villain.
And, like, when he was like, we're going to do this and we're going to go get the hippies, I was like, wait,

Speaker 1 is this Richard Nixon in the 60s? What the hell? I mean,

Speaker 1 I honestly think that Stephen Miller looks at Joseph Goebbels and is like, I want to be remembered like that.

Speaker 1 I honestly,

Speaker 1 the speech

Speaker 1 of Charlie Kirk's memorial was like, was literally lifted from Nazi speeches. The themes, the exact language.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's in an accident.

Speaker 1 i think that stephen miller wants to be remembered as the most powerful nazi in history he's definitely got a tattoo of gerbils naked somewhere on his body

Speaker 1 100

Speaker 1 yeah well hopefully we never see that

Speaker 1 i mean they're all such characters of like of villains it's i mean Even the snap stuff, which I do think probably had an impact as well, like the Trump is willing to take food away from poor children and working class Americans to like win an argument about taking health care away from the same people.

Speaker 1 It's like double cruel. And at the same time, the people are seeing their premiums.

Speaker 1 And we were talking to, you know, we know somebody that their business, they got their, the, the notice on their premiums, they're going to go up 100%

Speaker 1 next year. 100%.

Speaker 1 And it, it's all a perfect storm. And yet they still don't talk about lowering prices.
It's just, it's insanity. Because they can't.
It's not possible

Speaker 1 when you look at the when you look at the convergence of of of things it's a sign that he really doesn't think about things strategically i mean we've all known this it's not three-dimensional chess you know he's he's playing checkers with uh with like little pieces of chocolate like that's about where he's at um

Speaker 1 government shutdown healthcare like they passed the the the subsidy repeal like they knew exactly what was going to happen and they knew exactly when open enrollment is it's always the same time every year they set up open enrollment,

Speaker 1 price hikes to spike, snap benefits to dry up, job numbers to vanish,

Speaker 1 in the middle of a government shutdown, which they knew that they would get blamed for because the party in control almost always does, right over the top of an election.

Speaker 1 And they're like, how did this happen? How could this happen? I have a theory. I have a theory, and I want to get Amanda's take on this.

Speaker 1 And I've seen other people, so this is not, this is not an original idea.

Speaker 1 I think after November, they thought that they had won forever, that they had effectively crushed the Democratic Party and progressives in general. They won up and down and everywhere.

Speaker 1 They got the Senate. They kept the House.

Speaker 1 And the way they have been operating, I think, shows that they thought, and these guys are not geniuses, by the way. So we have to factor that in.
I think they thought they had it forever.

Speaker 1 So they were just going to implement their agenda. The American people, they were going to be able to crush mainstream media, which they did, and manipulate social media, which they did.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't enough. And I think that's why you have seen them do this incredibly stupid shit because they thought they had it locked up forever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think that's right. I think that they have forgotten fundamentally like what the American culture is, which is defiance.
That's that's it. It's not apple pie.
It's fuck you.

Speaker 1 That's that's American culture.

Speaker 1 And I legitimately, I understand why they assumed that Democrats would not do that. Yes.
We aren't like historically

Speaker 1 great at that.

Speaker 1 We aren't the most of it. We are very

Speaker 1 focused group message tests, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 But, you know, this is not business as usual. It's a singular time.
And the pressure that the party felt from its base to wake up and do some actual fighting was enough.

Speaker 1 And not just the pressure on our politicians or our leaders, but on Disney, you know, and I do think that

Speaker 1 the Jimmy Kimmel thing was a big turning point for

Speaker 1 people's willingness to resist. But there was, I think you're exactly right.

Speaker 1 There was an assumption that like they had a mandate, they'd won all, you know, all three, whatever, both chambers of Congress and the White House.

Speaker 1 And now they were, they, that no one would push back. I think that's what they thought.

Speaker 1 There's so much drinking of their own Kool-Aid. Like they sniff their own farts so much

Speaker 1 at the GOP, and there's never any thought for like 2% is not a fucking mandate, you idiot. And like someone's going to to wake up tomorrow and run against you.

Speaker 1 And like, they're just so shocked that anyone would have the audacity to say no.

Speaker 1 But, you know, and I do think that the no kings demonstrations had an impact as well.

Speaker 1 Like 7 million people in the street creates a permission structure for people who wouldn't otherwise be involved to be like, wait a minute, I don't like this. I'm going to go vote.

Speaker 1 And that may not feel like enough for some. more revolutionary corners of the internet, but you know, it worked yesterday.
So whatever.

Speaker 2 There's no question. I mean, like, for me, the thing that I always kind of judge Democrats on is they're just too risk averse.

Speaker 2 And this move they made with the shutdown was the polar fucking opposite, which is exactly what I wanted to see. It was a very risky move because Republicans historically have been messaging masters.

Speaker 2 Like, it didn't matter if they're right or wrong. They win because they can win the messaging war.
And they got the shit kicked out of them because Democrats, I think, caught them by surprise.

Speaker 2 They're like, they're not going to do this. And they did everything right, which is so weird to say out loud, but they really did.

Speaker 2 And I think they're kind of on their heels and going, oh shit, what are they going to do right next? And they're going to have to kind of recalibrate how they're going to strategize. He said it today.

Speaker 1 He said that he thought the shutdown has been bad for Republicans.

Speaker 1 No shit, Sherlock. Yeah.
Which is such a like the unforced errors that he makes these days are so surprising to me.

Speaker 1 It's because no matter how you spin that, so you're saying, even if the shutdown is the Democrats' fault, which is what he says, right?

Speaker 1 So you're saying that the Democrat strategy defeated you, which is a weird thing for him to admit. Right.

Speaker 1 Or you're saying that our shutdown, the Republicans are responsible for the shutdown and we fucked ourselves. Like there's no

Speaker 1 what you just said that makes any sense for someone to say.

Speaker 1 Man, I think, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Luke. Go ahead, Luke.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know about the rest of you, but I thought that the fascism was going to have a lot more cool, you know, black leather, you know, fucking regime kind of vibes.

Speaker 1 And really, it's just a bunch of people with mommy issues that are fucking stupid. Yeah.
Like, that's pretty much the sum total of it. Yeah.
I mean, they entrusted.

Speaker 1 What you're describing is the history channel effect.

Speaker 1 Like, Like, for real, I think that a lot of people growing up watching history channel

Speaker 1 who became fascists saw like tons of documentaries about the Nazis and were like, that's a cool aesthetic. I wouldn't

Speaker 1 get into that.

Speaker 1 There is the guy in, there is the guy in Chicago, right, that had the, that did wear that.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's one in Iowa that they have found his ass. And I was like, that's a choice.

Speaker 1 And like, right. Okay.
They're always 5-4.

Speaker 1 It kind of reminds me of like, we all watch the Victorian, you know,

Speaker 1 all the Victorian everything. And everybody's like, oh, it's so romantic.

Speaker 1 Only because you weren't there to smell what everyone smelled like. Right.
Right. 200 fucking 15 years.

Speaker 1 It's humid as fuck. They're wearing 17 layers of clothes and they're wearing those collars to keep the mites of the fucking damn the shit from falling into their into their shirt.

Speaker 1 Like this was not a sexy time, but history has treated it favorably.

Speaker 1 And when anyone ever asks when is the best time to be alive in history it's right now now it's now yeah 100 we do a bunch of terrible don't get me wrong but like right now victorian era no no no no no no like if you antibiotic era if nothing else oh dear i got a splinter i'm gonna lose my hand and i'm dead

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 from a from a blister in his foot

Speaker 1 really yes oh my god yeah that's crazy william henry harrison didn't he die of a cold uh uh or or the flu or something after his i know there's some question about it.

Speaker 1 It was probably pneumonia, but there was also theories that it was like tainted water because DC was a disgusting poop swamp. Still is.
Right now it is.

Speaker 1 What a metaphor. Yes.

Speaker 1 I want to tell you guys,

Speaker 1 I like to look at Truth Social periodically to see what's happening while we're recording, see if anything fun happens. I think somebody slipped Trump a memo with his Adderall this morning.

Speaker 1 This is what he posted while we were recording. Happy anniversary.

Speaker 1 On this day, November 5th, one year ago, we had one of the greatest presidential victories in history such such an honor to represent our country our economy is booming and costs are coming way down affordability is our goal

Speaker 1 love to the american people president donald j trump affordability it's a weird word for him to use uh 2012 hours after

Speaker 1 did you see mive on twitter last night what ramaswamy said no uh ramaswamy got on twitter and made a video because, you know, he's running for governor at Ohio.

Speaker 1 And he said, we got our asses kicked because we don't focus on affordability. We talk too much about identity politics.
Yes. And that trump is echoing.

Speaker 1 See, that dude, that dude's just scared because he's realizing that they will never accept him. Right.

Speaker 1 That's fair. He will never accept him.

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw

Speaker 1 him. I saw.

Speaker 2 They beat the fuck out of him. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 So, for anyone who hasn't seen this, Ramaswamy did a town hall-style event, and young people who I think might have been high school students were coming up and saying horrible things.

Speaker 1 They're like, you're Hindu, so you worship demons. Why should we trust you?

Speaker 1 And he answered like multiple questions. Kids just kept coming up and saying the same like insanely bigoted shit.
And he still thinks that he's got a chance of winning this nomination.

Speaker 1 Wasn't it a turning point event? It was. It was a turning point.

Speaker 1 You lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas. That's what happens they're never gonna they're never gonna pick you buddy

Speaker 1 well we're seeing a big war in the gop right because there's the whole thing where tucker carlson brought on you know basically nazi nick fluentes and now they're the the the culture warriors and the i guess i'm gonna call them the mainstream republicans or the financial republicans or whatever are just at each other's throat about this and i just i think just let them fight but it is really interesting and i think it's going to cause problems for the next year because, like, you know, whoever wins out in that,

Speaker 1 some of the other side will not vote. And it could be very helpful to Democrats.

Speaker 1 I mean, if we don't really, you know, talk about winning the Ohio gubernatorial race, but if that shit continues and the margins we see saw last night continue, Ohio is in play. Sherrod Brown

Speaker 1 is a very strong possibility to be elected to that seat, which is another flip that we would not expect.

Speaker 1 Like they are, they are all spiraling, and they were spiraling before the election, probably because their internals told them the same story that we saw last night.

Speaker 1 Now, the momentum is going to continue to push in both directions, where their infighting is going to become more severe. And people like Sherrod Brown are going to look at this and go, oh.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'm going to get into this race. Maybe this is the time.
It feels like Copper Drive is going to be a race. Well, he is in the race.

Speaker 1 He is in the race. Okay, right.
Okay. I didn't know if he declared yet.
I know that he did.

Speaker 1 They're sometimes a little bit coy about that. Yeah.
Yeah. No.
You should.

Speaker 1 People should know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, yeah.
I mean, yeah, it's interesting. Well, let's, we've only got a few minutes left.
So let's, let's, what, uh, what do we think Democrats need to do now?

Speaker 1 Because obviously this is a great night, but it, we have a lot of work to do.

Speaker 1 And Amanda, I want to ask you first, like, what, what do you think that the party needs to do to get prepared for what is going to be a sprint to November of 2026?

Speaker 1 So, a couple of things. I just keep thinking about that Elmo gif of the fire.
More.

Speaker 1 More of that.

Speaker 1 We had such a historic night, not just the margins of the big statewide races, but so many flips happened on Lake City Councils.

Speaker 1 You know, I was thinking about the Charlotte, North Carolina City Council, one of their districts elected a Democrat last night for the first time ever.

Speaker 1 So more things like that. I think that we need to lean on Ken Martin to have no uncontested race and no dog catchers, no fucking milkmen, no uncontested races anywhere.

Speaker 1 I don't care if it's a holler in West Virginia. We need to be running people, which is hard.
You know, recruitment is hard. I understand.
I get it. Whatever.
Shut up. Do it.

Speaker 1 That's the job.

Speaker 1 Donate any more money to you. You need to be.
So every county, we need to have a presence in every county. No uncontested races.

Speaker 1 And I think now is the time to start.

Speaker 1 If you are a person who believes that the party needs to run more progressive candidates and fewer establishment candidates or fewer candidates over the age of 75, you need to start thinking about the primaries now.

Speaker 1 Those have already started. You know, the Senate races in Maine,

Speaker 1 the primaries are already underway. Rob Whitman,

Speaker 1 my congressman, who's a Republican, there are six Democrats already lined up for the Democratic primary. So this has already started.
So start getting involved in those races.

Speaker 1 The primaries are the time where you get to push the party in the direction you want it to go. Not the general.
You vote for Blue No matter who. And I know that's controversial, but whatever.

Speaker 1 But the primaries are now. It's happening now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think people need to start

Speaker 1 getting connected with their local parties. My ballot had two or three uncontested races where Republicans are the only option.

Speaker 1 I live in Westchester County, New York. It's one of the most wealthy places in the country.

Speaker 1 I know that there are a ton of people here who have a comfortable enough life to put everything aside and do some public service.

Speaker 1 Like I just want to see more people who have that comfort in life step up to the plate and serve their country.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Howard Dean's 50-state strategy, you know, Obama, everybody loved Obama in 08, but Howard Dean was the architect of... the greatest takeover of Congress, I think maybe ever.

Speaker 1 And the way I think about it, it's like, no,

Speaker 1 it's everything. It's the candidates, it's the money, it's the investment.

Speaker 1 But it's also the fact that like we're all across the country, just the people here in this group, we're all across the country. Everybody's across the country.
You have a cousin in Ohio.

Speaker 1 You've got a grandpa in Minnesota. Like you've got people everywhere.
We're all so interconnected.

Speaker 1 If that person is voting for a person like Mom Donnie and you're like, well, that's great for you guys. I'm going to vote for my, you know, my local Democrat.

Speaker 1 At least they're not crazy like Mom Donnie. Like you give this net effect across the country where it's not just that person or that race.

Speaker 1 It's, well, I know people who voted for Mom Donnie and they're like my friends or my family and I might not agree with them, but they're not fucking terrible monster crazy people.

Speaker 1 So I'm maybe a little bit more likely, 1% or 2% more likely to vote, you know, in my red state for the Democrat because maybe they're not all crazy.

Speaker 1 Like you have to understand how interconnected people are. And if we take that approach and then we get good candidates, like, I love that, Amanda, like every single,

Speaker 1 every single race should have somebody you know about or you've heard about or you're like at least willing to maybe consider so that you then have permission to make the bigger decisions.

Speaker 1 Power structures are built at the municipal level. Yep.

Speaker 1 100%.

Speaker 1 Well, guys,

Speaker 1 I'm glad we're celebrating. I think it's time for us to wrap this show, but it's been awesome and really, really nice.
I did a video this morning where I'm like, everything feels lighter today.

Speaker 1 And I think, I think that's true. There are a couple, I want to do a couple things before we wrap up.

Speaker 1 But one is, um, we asked you last episode to uh help a campaign to raise money to give federal employees who have been furloughed grocery store gift cards so they could feed their families.

Speaker 1 And we want to thank everybody who did that. And you could still do it if you go to thelaborforce.org/slash find out.
Thelaborforce.org/slash find out.

Speaker 1 We're still raising money for them so that they can give people the support they need to feed their families. The government is still shut down.

Speaker 1 It's probably not going to go too much longer, but these people need to eat now. So if you can donate, that would be great.

Speaker 1 Also, I have to push our merch. Rich and I have

Speaker 1 lovely shirt, lovely hoodie, made in America. Oh, there's a mug coming out.

Speaker 1 Coffee, though.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're well, you can't, but can't buy that. We gotta wrap so I can go buy or go pour more coffee.
Yeah, so yeah. So you can can get that at findoutpodcast.com.

Speaker 1 But finally, Amanda, thank you very much for joining us. We've all been big fans of your content for a long time.

Speaker 1 And actually, when I told my told my wife that you were coming on, one of her best friends was like, oh, she's like my favorite creator. So it all, it's, it's great.

Speaker 1 So we really appreciate you coming on and also all the work you did to help get Democrats across the finish line.

Speaker 1 And in particular, uh, volunteering at the polling locations, which is kind of an unsung hero job of anybody who does that. So with that, everybody, enjoy this victory.

Speaker 1 Take a little break, and then it's a sprint to 2026. Thanks, everybody.
We'll be back next week.